Irish actor Peter O’Meara, best known for his appearance in HBO’s Band of Brothers, name dropped Game of Thrones in a recent interview. In response to a question about his “new years wish”, here is what O’Meara said:
Well, it may involve a Game of Thrones. Nothing definite but my fingers are certainly crossed.
Winter Is Coming: This sounds like more than just hoping to get a role in the series. It sounds like he has been promised a role if HBO picks up the show. It is possible he read for a role in the pilot, didn’t get it, but they liked him and want to bring him back as another character. Current fan speculation has him as a possible Edmure, or even Littlefinger.
If that is the case than O’Meara would be the second actor to have an informal casting agreement if the show gets picked up. Remember GRRM mentioned a “world-class thespian” who had been cast as a character in the pilot but was subsequently written out (most likely Pycelle). But, GRRM stated, that this character and actor would be back if the show got picked up.
If they are doing this sort of thing with regularity there is a chance that the casting search for the first season may not be as long as the one for the pilot. Assuming they get the green light in March they may be able to move quickly into filming.
EDIT: It seems the above quote is not entirely accurate. It was pulled from the article that maxlongstreet originally posted over at Westeros. That article listed the PRWeb article as its source. I linked to the source of the EarthTimes article in my post without fully reading the PRWeb article. For some reason EarthTimes completely changes the Game of Thrones quote around as the PRWeb article has a completely different quote.
Well, I love the David Benioff script for Game of Thrones. He’s a genius writer. His ‘City of Thieves’ is my favourite novel of the last ten years. If I have a career wish its to join the world of fire and ice he’s creating with HBO. Fingers crossed.
This quote makes it sound much more like O’Meara is a fan of Benioff, and possibly the books, and is just hoping to get a shot at appearing in the series. Not that he has already been promised a role.
[Via maxlongstreet of the Westeros forums]
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Interesting…………
kinnygrahamQuote Reply
which role? which role??? :D
ammadeusQuote Reply
How old is he? I was thinking Renly when I saw him, because he looks a bit like Mark Addy (though not quite as young as I picture Renly).
strangerfaceQuote Reply
O'Meara turned 40 this year. He's too old for Renly. He doesn't seem to have the right presence for Stannis, either, but who knows?
coaldustcanaryQuote Reply
I would like him as Little Finger, seems quite capable of pulling that role.
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LintQuote Reply
His wording does seem to indicate a bit more at work than something like his agent trying to set up an audition.
It goes to support what Aidan Gillen's people have indicated, that casting for season one has at least been discussed.
I suggested O'Meara might be talking about Stannis in the last thread. 40 is too old for Renly, and as strangerface mentions, there is some resemblance to Addy.
He's a bit more traditionally attractive than I'd expect for Littlefinger, but after Momoa was cast as Drogo I've realized I'm apt to go with less good-looking characters in my head. So, for sure a possibility.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Bronn, or Stannis would be my guess, and both would fit. Definitely not Renly, as Renly should look like a young twenty-something. Also, Stannis is younger than Robert, even though I always pictured him as the older brother. So Stannis is a serious possibility, and I think he would be great in either of those roles (Bronn/Stannis).
Oh, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if D&D haven't already began "quietly casting" some of the second wave of actors for season one.
…ryan
P.S. @WiC I believe it's "thespian" not "thesbian", though don't quote me.
invertebraeQuote Reply
Worth asking:
Do you guys think GoT might be the most "collectively attractive" cast HBO has put together yet? Of course not all of the actors are designed to be "pretty" but they already have quite a few good looking characters going.
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
I must say once again that I have totally different Stannis in my head.
If he is too old for Renly, he is too old for Beric, too.
In that picture I do not see LF either.
I will go with Edmure (I am not sure how old is Edmure in the books?)or with some other Stark banner – SmallJohn anybody?
The rabbitQuote Reply
They wouldn't be casting Stannis now anyway, right?
I don't really see this guy for any of the bigger parts, honestly.
sjweningsQuote Reply
@sjwenings
No, I do not think so.
The rabbitQuote Reply
My Stannis is different as well, but somehow he fits … both with Addy and when I think about his looks. Guess the idea wasn't that strong in my head to start with. Bronn wouldn't be bad either.
Glad more decisions seem to have already been taken. Or at least first dibs / informal talks and the like. Fingers crossed.
MarkoQuote Reply
Why not Bronn?
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
I Think he looks too young to play littltefinger.
Maybe not in that pic over there but in other around the internet.
Quiet WolfQuote Reply
He looks like a Tully to me. I always imagined Stannis as more of a 'mean and lean' type.
nikkiQuote Reply
What about Jory Cassel? He does look a little like Mark Addie, but I also see a bit of Ron Donachie.
JillianQuote Reply
I am right there with you Jillian.
The rabbitQuote Reply
Stannis doesn't have 1 second of face-time in the first book. It is very unlikely they'd cast for a season two character.
I suppose it's possible that they want have the falling out between Stannis and Robert and his subsequent quasi-banishment to Dragonstone shown on camera, rather than just related through backstory. Doubt it though.
That leaves Littlefinger, Bronn, Edmure, a Stark knight, or one of the Kingsguard.
shadallionQuote Reply
!Spoiler!
First Edmures appereance in the book is on the ned of GoT (POV – King of the North).
I was just thinking mybe, they would change it a little bit, to show us a siege of Riverrun by Jaime?
!End of spoiler!
The rabbitQuote Reply
It's funny how everyone pictures the characters in so many different ways :) I was a bit shocked when I read the suggestions that he should play Renly, Littlefinger or Bronn. In my eyes they are completely different. I would definitely like him as Davos, he is just perfect fit for him in my eyes :) Or Mance for example. But we know, that he may sign for the first season, so my tip is Edmure or someone from Kingsguard
Molda22Quote Reply
I could see him as Edmure, though he's a bit old. And I could almost see him as the Blackfish, though he's a bit young…
DysfunctionQuote Reply
which of the kingsguard play significant roles in the first book? Other than baristan of course…
izakmoQuote Reply
mmm… actually in that picture (the only picture i know) he looks like one of "the many faces of steven seagal" :-D
and i can't really picture him as one of the major roles mentioned until know… maybe bronn, though bronn for me was always some kind of muscular kurt russel *g*
MarshallQuote Reply
Jillian may have the right of it. They took all of Jory Cassel's lines in the pilot but surely they'll bring him back; can't just have "random Stark guards" get killed during the Jaime Lannister confrontation in King's Landing. We need Jory because we need Jory to die.
About Yea HighQuote Reply
ps: the mentioned faces can for example found here
MarshallQuote Reply
my money's on bronn.
izakmoQuote Reply
Don't we first meet Stannis and Renly together in AGoT? Regardless, I like both Jillian's suggestion of Jory and Ryan's suggestion of Bronn better anyway.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Its Foxhole Norman!
How about Thorne?
sven20Quote Reply
@Paul Gude
We meet Renly and Barristan together in AGoT, when they come to meet Robert's party on the way back to King's Landing, and Sansa tries to guess who they are.
We don't meet Stannis til the Prologue of ACoK, where we also first meet Melisandre.
SilverstarQuote Reply
My head-stannis has always been Patrick McGoohan is King edwards in longshanks…too bad he's dead :/
KärBärQuote Reply
As king edward in braveheart is what i ment of course
KärBärQuote Reply
And there there is the fact that he was 30 years too old for Stannis.
sven20Quote Reply
Thanks, Silverstar! For some reason I had gotten Selmy and Stannis confused.
Definitely not Stannis, then. ;)
Thorne is an interesting guess, Sven20. I hadn't thought much about his casting at all.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
I can get behind the idea of him as Jory. Good suggestion.
coaldustcanaryQuote Reply
I can see him as Littlefingr, Lord Baelish shouldn't be comically evil and this guy look the part.
ebleyesQuote Reply
You know, I will say I agree with something that I think has been posted earlier:
Out of all of the roles mentioned so far, I think Baelish would be the one that would get someone the most excited.
I still like the suggestions of Jory or Bronn, better, though. I may just have blinders on because I wanted a different type of guy as Littlefinger.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Jory popped in my head as a possibility as well. But I figured it would be a smaller part and not one that O'Meara would necessarily be that excited about. But looking over his credit list it seems most of his roles have been bit parts anyway. Plus the fact that they are shooting in, more or less, his backyard is probably appealing.
WinterIsComingQuote Reply
Jory is a very tiny role. He is only around for the first half of the first book, and he doesn't do or say very much at all. He's around, he's close to Eddard, but unless some changes are made I think it's unlikely he will be a character of any significance on the show. I've never understood why so many people seize on him so much. His father Roderick is a much more significant role.
Bronn is definitely possible, and as I said in the prior thread, Edmure or Littlefinger seem very appropriate, too. Edmure doesn't have a big role season 1, and even later he's a lesser character. Bronn and Littlefinger are both very significant roles.
BrudeQuote Reply
I like the Ser Alliser Thorne suggestion or possibly one of the King's guard. If its one f the latter my guess is Ser Mandon Moore. O'meara's eyes could fit the description of Moore not giving away what he was going to do next.
I definately don't like his look for LF (too masculine) and I'm not sure I do for Bronn, but its hard to judge from one pic.
lordnedsheadQuote Reply
Oh and I also immediately thought of him as Renly when I first saw him. The age thing is relevent I guess, but then again I never really pictured Renly as a young 20 year old on my first read through (yes I realize now that he was one).
lordnedsheadQuote Reply
It will be someone with more of a role.
Bronn, Petyr, and Stannis are the only real choices I forsee.
Petyr is now my pick, because he has a more prominent role in Season One, and would be used early on, whereas Stannis would hardly be used in the first season, same with Bronn.
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
Molda, to me he is Davos also, a rare fit. In the pic posted here at least.
AnonymuffQuote Reply
Hi Guys
Haven't been on here in a while. How's it going? I guess this is the 'long wait' we knew was coming.
Driving home a while ago I noticed that one of the 'GOT' direction signs was still attached to a roundabout. This was directing GOT traffic to a unit base in Larne back in Oct/Nov and hasn't been removed. I was tempted to go and get it but it is in the middle of a busy intersection.
But every time I drive past it I have a little smile to myself!
rimshot44Quote Reply
@Rimshot,
You should go get it and take it home as a souvenir! Maybe if the show gets picked up, and we have another moot (fingers crossed), you could get it signed.
SilverstarQuote Reply
Davos and Stannis do not appear in the first book. I think it's possible Stannis could be written into Season 1, but actually I find it unlikely because already HBO had concerns about the size of the cast. Why then add more casting difficulty to the first season, when the story didn't include them in the first place.
No, Davos and Stannis will be introduced in the opening scene of Season 2, just like they are in the prologue chapter of Clash of Kings. Dramatically, it works very well to start Season 2 with several characters we've never seen before. Those not familiar with the books will be surprised by that (much as I was when reading the books the first time), and it is a great way to re-orient the viewers into the thrust of the new season. In that opening you get Stannis, Davos, Melisandra and Shireen and Patchface, too.
The reason I don't think he'll be a Kingsguard is he's not a very big guy. IMDb lists him as 5'9", which means he might well be only about 5'6", since most actors lie about their height, at least by a couple of inches. Yes, things can be cheated, but it's only worth doing for major roles. Most of the Kingsguard are pretty small roles, so you might as well get guys who are physical specimines first and foremost.
BrudeQuote Reply
@Brude
Based on your info about O'Meara's height…..
- I think we've found our Littlefinger.
I don't mind it, not right in my mind, but not wrong on screen either.
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
I like him for Edmure even if the ages aren't quite right.
I also think he'd be good for Mace Tyrell (not sure what age he's meant to be) but even though I'm in the process of rereading all the books (currently on Crows), I can't remember if Mace is in Thrones or just mentioned.
Also nothing to say Peter means the first season of Thrones but probably likely.
JacMac30Quote Reply
Is there anywhere a list of characters based on which books they appear in? I've been looking for one, but all I can find are complete lists of characters from the whole series.
SilverstarQuote Reply
@Silverstar
Tower of the Hand shows the characters, and on their pages on the bottom, what books/chapters they appear in.
Hope that helps.
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
Any clips on youtube or something of O'Meara?
sjweningsQuote Reply
@Rimshot
Hi, how is your reading of GoT?
Any impressions?
The rabbitQuote Reply
sjwenings: If you are in the US, you can watch all 9 episodes of Peacemakers, which O'Meara starred in, on Hulu.
WinterIsComingQuote Reply
I have to agree with the Littlefinger suggestions. He's too old for Renly (although make-up might be able to fix that), and gives me the wrong vibe for Stannis (and that's a season away). Bronn seems too unsavory a role for him, although I'm sure he has the acting chops to pull it off. But Petyr Baelish is supposed to be one heck of a charming, witty man; this guy seems to have that under his belt. Somebody suggested that he was too handsome for Littlefinger, but I don't think Littlefinger was necessarily plain. Maybe not attractive by the standards of Westeros, but that has more to do with him not being much of a fighter than anything else. And O'Meara's slightly youthful appearance will appropriately make him look just a bit younger than Catelyn and Eddard Stark.
I think he would make a good Edmure, too, but this guy has a resume that looks like he could command a "better" part if he wanted one, and Edmure just isn't that complex a character.
Also, the quote above is not accurate to the version of the interview I read when I followed the link. What I read was, "If I have a career wish its to join the world of fire and ice he's creating with HBO. Fingers crossed." I'll admit that I like reading between the lines, even finding things that aren't there, but the choice of the idiom, "fingers crossed," may have been a sly hint that he, too, would like to see himself as Littlefinger.
KyleQuote Reply
Kyle: Nice catch. The article I pulled the quote from originally was the one maxlongstreet directly linked to here. That article sourced the PRWeb article that I link to in the post. I didn't actually read the PRWeb article as I assumed it was the same thing. Strange that the Earthtimes article gives such a different spin on his quote. The PRWeb quote makes it sound much more like he is a fan of the books and hopes to be a part of the HBO adaptation.
WinterIsComingQuote Reply
@Brude
"because already HBO had concerns about the size of the cast"
Any evidence of this other than fan assumption? This fact has the feeling of Fanon to it. I don't recall anyone mentioning this as an issue other than us.
Also, re: Jory, as others have said, he's the first human Stark who had face time and lines to go down, though you are right about why is Jory more important than say, Fat Tom. The guards are important characters to the kids character arcs rather than Ned's.
Critical GeekQuote Reply
CG: I think the speculation sprang from this statement from GRRM during WorldCon:
At his reading George said that the pilot is setting an HBO record for the highest number of series regulars hired, and that's quite possibly not a good thing because they have to hold onto them all so they dont have to recast in the middle.
So there seems to be some concern about the cast size. Although I guess, based on this report, there is no way of knowing if the worry over the issue of holding onto the regulars is coming from HBO or GRRM. However, I would say it is a safe assumption that HBO would at least have some concern in that department.
WinterIsComingQuote Reply
Davos and Stannis do not appear in the first book.
Well sh'yeah but that doesn't help make this guy look more like Littlefinger a'tall.
O'Meara meant, according to this discussion:
"I auditioned for a role for the pilot, and I have a role waiting for me in season 1 if project gets green light."
Look at him, he's a cozy middle management lord/knight. I looked at other pics of his and he's no Davos.. was misled by pic here.
But IMO he can't be Littlefinger. Our Littlefinger is intelligent and devious…slight. …Not a conventional big type like O'Meara. Can you imagine a conversation between him and Sansa? Wrong. Only a BSG fan could possibly allow that to happen and be happy with it.
The 'cross my fingers' reference is absurd to take as a double meaning. There are a lot of people crossing their bloody fingers already that the show will happen for their own reasons.
Whiney the Poo BarQuote Reply
"If I have a career wish its to join the world of fire and ice he's creating with HBO. Fingers crossed."
That wording sounds much more like he's a big fan of the project/Benioff (and possibly the books, too) and wants to be in it, but doesn't suggest at all that he's in line for a role. I think it's quite likely he's auditioned though; the "fingers crossed" statement sounds like he has real hopes. Still, it could be more, he could be crossing his fingers that it gets picked up because he's been promised one of those roles if it is.
BrudeQuote Reply
But IMO he can't be Littlefinger. Our Littlefinger is intelligent and devious…slight. …Not a conventional big type like O'Meara.
O'Mera isn't big. Saw him in Band of Brothers and he looks exceedingly average in height and build, maybe even a bit skinny. I don't think he looks as small as Littlefinger is described to be in the books (I always imagined he was like 5'4", or something), but he's not going to be mistaken for a big Kingsguard at any time, either.
As for Littlefinger's age, the first description of him is thus:
"When Sansa finally looked up, a man was standing over her, staring. he was short, with a pointed beard and a silver streak in his hair, almost as old as her father."
So there you go.
BrudeQuote Reply
I knew some chump would remind me that he's not tall. Look at him. He is wide, look at his bone structure. I stand by my opinion.
If it were another argument, you would all be reminding me that camera tricks can make him taller.
Whiney the Poo BarQuote Reply
I'm 99% positive O'Meara is going to be playing the role of Brienne.
He has the right look.
To paraphrase SoIaF: "Brienne looked like a man."
He's the perfect body, only needs a few camera tricks and some make up.
Whiney the Poo BarQuote Reply
Stannis could appear in Season 1. If they are using flashbacks to his and Jon Arryn's investigation into Cersei and Jaime, he could appear early. It could also be a good idea to establish him early rather than having him appear in Season 2, Episode 1 and having people go, "Who's this guy? What's going on?"
I have a new casting suggestion: Fulvio Cecere as Alliser Thorne. A good actor who has good form in these asshole authority figure types of role. Pluse he played Lt. Alastair Thorne in BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, which seems appropriate.
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
Maybe it's just this particular picture, but this guy does not look how I imagine Littlefinger. He looks a bit too broad. I always pictured Littlefinger being very wiry.
Personally, I am hoping Aidan Gillen will be our Littlefinger *fingers crossed*
childdollQuote Reply
Littlefinger was five years younger than Brandon, which makes him between three and four years younger than Eddard, so about 31-32 in AGoT and 33-35 by AFFC, assuming no aging-up.
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
I've been putting together a list of every uncast recurring character I can think of in GOT (comes to about 60) and of that list, O'Meara roughly matches ten characters:
Alliser Thorne
Beric
Bronn
Edmure Tully
Halfhand
Jory Cassel
Meryn
Petyr Baelish
Renly
Timett
izakmoQuote Reply
oops. minus qhorin halfhand. he doesn't show until book two.
izakmoQuote Reply
izakmo, I would add one, came to my mind this afternoon: Janos Slynt!
The rabbitQuote Reply
@ Pooh, I also addressed his build, not just his height. He's got a wide face, but his body-type is not big:
Look at his shoulders, not broad at all
BrudeQuote Reply
@ rabbit
I had Janos on the list but cut him because I think O'Meara is probably too young, handsome, and fit for the part. But you're right, he could technically qualify for the role.
I also originally included Ilyn Payne, Varys, and Roose Bolton, but I think each of these characters had a certain "look" that the casting directors are unlikely to ignore.
I was surprised at how few of the 60+ characters I came up with could be filled by normal looking, middle aged actors with average builds.
izakmoQuote Reply
Including the present cast, I've got about 86 characters, ranging from major players like Littlefinger, to vital single appearance characters like Ser Vardis Egen, to minor yet relevant roles like Cohollo the bloodrider, who doesn't say or do much, but is still present for the majority of the book.
That's a lot of names and faces to keep straight…
izakmoQuote Reply
@izakmo
The cast list of book 1 not in the pilot has been made.
Critical GeekQuote Reply
@ critical geek
Thanks. I figured there was likely a list out there but hadn't found it.
According to that list, there are another 91 characters to be cast, which brings the total cast for the season to 116! That's an average of about 11 new characters per episode! I'm sure they'll cut/consolidate a lot of these characters but still…
izakmoQuote Reply
Come off it. You could find a better photogragh of O'Meara. Look here
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0641854/
He's been great in Band of Brothers and Alias
heavyQuote Reply
I remember him from Alias. He was good.
He could work for any number of roles, including Littlefinger or Renly.
shadallionQuote Reply
If you watched Alias, your opinion is automatically disqualified.
I also think he could any number of roles! But Renly and Littlefinger… ? That's a stretch.
Sarah Ha HaQuote Reply
Too old for Renly. Too old. Too. Old.
I couldn't bring myself to watch much of Peacemakers but O'Meara seems to have a bit of a bureaucratic prickness about him in that show which could work for Baelish.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
This photo is NOT a true representation of O'Meara. He's waaay better looking in person. He played Edmund in King Lear at the RSC . He'll be great. The producers must know what they're doing to bring it things this far.
WalkerQuote Reply
Here's a fan site
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/peter_omeara/
WalkerQuote Reply
The guy was too old to play Renly, Beric, or Edmure back when he was in BoB and that was 8 years ago.
sven20Quote Reply
How in any way does the age of Beric mean anything? Besides one throwaway line by Jeyne Poole (who may or may not even be in the series – she certainly wasn't in the pilot).
Here's a clue: the age of the actor playing Beric? It means noth-ing. He needs to be an adult. That's it!
Renly and Edmure? They have to look younger than Robert and Caitlin respectively. Other than that?
Their age means nothing. Again. It has zero to do with the story.
Y'all kill me sometimes. The book isn't sacrosanct. I just want a bloody good series.
About Yea HighQuote Reply
I think by discussing that little section of the interview we have killed the any chance that this guy will be considered. Remember what's his name, the strange looking young guy?
ebleyesQuote Reply
@Silverstar – maybe I will! It would look nice on my wall.
@Rabbit – I'm only about 180 pages in to GOT. I'm really enjoying it. It has a earthy realism that is really engaging. I wish I had read it before working on the pilot as I could have related to what I was seeing more. Just read the chapter with Jon getting homesick at the wall (the description of the wall is incredible!). Alfie Allen said to me on the set that the end of it is a great cliffhanger so I'm looking forward to that. Great book so far.
rimshot44Quote Reply
Renly's age will have some impact on Loras's age, I'd think. In the books, they're 20 and 16 respectively. If they age Renly up to 30, I'd imagine they'll need to age up Loras to mid twenties, which could impact then on his storyline. Loras being so young is quite a big part of his character.
Edmure and Petyr could be about thirty, easily enough. He just doesn't look much like my impression of Edmure, but that doesn't mean he couldn't play him well. He's more Petyr to my mind, but I've not seen him act, so I don't know what sort of character he'd be best at.
SilverstarQuote Reply
@Rimshot,
Are you finding the things you saw on set to mirror the way you find things in the books? Do you think the actors nailed the parts, from what you saw?
SilverstarQuote Reply
Silverstar
If they age Renly up to 30, I'd imagine they'll need to age up Loras to mid twenties, which could impact then on his storyline. Loras being so young is quite a big part of his character.
-Agreed. Peter O'Meara is 40, though. I don't think he can pull off 30, and even then – as
you said – he'd be too old.
Renly need to be mid-twenties at the most. Loras early twenties, at the most. Ideally they'd be a few years younger.
sjweningsQuote Reply
@Silverstar:
But Sansa being too young to be married IS indead an important part of her storyline – otherwise, the Lannisters would have gone for it two books earlier. Didn't stop anyone from aging her up.
For Loras, he only needs to be quite young compared to the other knights, and very handsome.
DunkeltrollQuote Reply
@Dunkeltroll- given the criterion on which a girl is judged old enough to marry, there's plenty of leeway there, age 14/15 is still reasonable- older than some, but not beyond the normal range by any means.
I agree relative ages are the most important thing- Loras just needs to be one of the younger knights- and look like a member of a boy band. Renly could be aged up further, mid-late 20s, it's not a big deal if the age gap is slightly larger between them. But ageing him up far enough that O'Meara could play him is probably too far, as I don't think he could pass for under 30.
shinyteapotQuote Reply
Exactly, Shinyteapot.
The other thing I'll point out is that Renly's behavior of ignoring is bride and focusing on Loras is somewhat written off by Catelyn as immaturity.
I guess you could translate it into a midlife crisis.
"Y'all kill me sometimes. The book isn't sacrosanct. I just want a bloody good series."
I totally get the impulse to say that folks who are sticklers for little details like this are treating the book like gospel, but really?
O'Meara may be a great actor, but how on earth does aging Renly up from 22 in the books (Via TowerofTheHand.com)to 40 in the series make the series any better? There's no great literature-to-TV problem that's going to be cured by that.
I guess if you don't like him for Littlefinger, and somehow proving that he could play Renly will magically make him cast as Renly, then I suppose it could help.
*SPOILERS*
If anything, I think they may go with their current trend of casting bigger names for folks who are going to die off. It may be that fans will eventually be able to tell who's going to off it by how big of a paycheck they get. Renly will quite possibly be a little bit famous.
*SPOILERS*
Of course, my impulses about this aren't always correct. What will happen if it turns out that he *is* cast as Renly? Same thing that happened when Momoa was cast as Drogo. I'll shrug, assimilate it and move on.
In the end, I believe in HBO.
Until it happens, though, I'm not buying it.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
The one other thing is that the revised quote seems a bit less of a sure thing than the original.
"I think by discussing that little section of the interview we have killed the any chance that this guy will be considered. Remember what's his name, the strange looking young guy?"
Of course, if this *is* the case, him mentioning it in an interview may have something to do with it.
Esmé Bianco and Bronson Webb mentioned their being cast on their web sites, and Jason Momoa announced his being cast on stage, but I can't think of anyone who hasn't been cast mentioning they've auditioned actually getting it.
Can anyone else?
To me, this may indicate:
1) He isn't anywhere near the casting phase and is just throwing it out there. In that case, he wouldn't be jeopardizing anything by wishing out loud during an interview.
The "fingers crossed" makes me think this one isn't true, at least I'm inferring that there's some sort of effort out there that he's hoping comes to fruition. Either an audition, or an effort to get an audition by his agent.
2) He's making the same mistake Tom Payne did, and talking about the possibility of getting a role while still just being considered. Now, I'm not sure if HBO didn't cast him because he talked about it. It may just be that he got beat out by Harry Lloyd, who I think is great. Still, there is an impression that they're really doing all they can to combat leaks, and if you talk about auditioning or being considered, it may hurt your chances. Like I mentioned above, I can't think of anyone who talked about auditioning before they got in who got in, but maybe someone else could.
I wouldn't necessarily put Conan Stevens in this category yet, because his strategy was to go for Gregor by auditioning for Drogo. If the series gets picked up, we'll see what happens.
Again, it doesn't mean that O'Meara is in this category, or even that if he is he still won't get the role, but there seems to be a precedent.
3) Some sort of contract is signed where he feels comfortable speaking about his possibility of being cast, and his "fingers crossed" is about the series being picked up.
By far, this is the most favorable scenario for him and us, I think. It'd indicate that they're still moving forward, even though a definite decision hasn't come down from HBO.
Granted, there's no real way to get resolution to this until the series decision is announced.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
I am a little bit confused over that O Mearea thing.
Yesterday evening Ran over at Westeros site posted this link It says that it contains the full version of the original article, and it says that O Meara auditioned for Jaime…
Now, I see that a part of the interview missing.
The whole thing is just weird.
The rabbitQuote Reply
With a huge ensemble cast like this show will have, I am sure the producers will be keeping tabs on ANYONE who was a finalist for ANY part.
For someone to become a finalist the casting crew must have really liked them, and with so many characters to cast, I'm sure they are letting the actors know that they will be in consideration for other potential roles that may fit.
It doesn't sound like any more than that, he didn't get the part but has reason to feel he may have another chance at another part.
ChrisQuote Reply
I don't get all the emphatic declarations that he is too old to play Renly. How is he too old for Renly, but Bean not too old for Ned? I'm not saying O'Meara IS Renly, I'm just saying. He could be made up to look like Addy, and he could (if you look at his other photos) look pretty thirties, if not twenties.
AaronQuote Reply
I'm with Aaron. To me, it sounds as if people are going with the images in their head of "Loras and Renly" (as a couple) much like some people were bugging out about "Sansa and the Hound" (as a couple), kneejerking about Rory McCann not being young or pretty enough for their tastes (when in fact he's a hell of a lot better looking than the books describe Sandor).
It has the same ring to me; some fans want this awesomely beautiful young gay couple rather than an awesomely beautiful young knight with a charismatic man who happens to be in his mid-thirties (which O'Meara could easily play).
They aged Robert up. They aged Ned up. They'll age Renly up. So long as he looks younger than Robert there is zero impact on the story.
They should age Loras up too, maybe to 19, 20 … Hell, Loras would still be Loras ("a bold young knight") in his early 20's. 23? I'm fine with that. What's more important for Loras is that he looks young. And last I heard nobody is suggesting O'Meara play Loras.
Personally, I still want O'Meara for Edmure. But I'm not saying he can't do any of these other roles.
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All the aging up, trying to make the cast fit the books and the confirmed cast, it just starting to hurt my head. i'm just glad someone else has to do this and not me.
JillianQuote Reply
AYH,
I think you've hit the nail on the head for me. I want Renly and Loras to be two young guys. One slightly older than the other, but both YOUNG.
The only difference between what you put forth and my own opinion is that I think your statement that "there is zero impact on the story" is completely and utterly wrong.
It might be that I'm 36, but in my mind, Loras and Renly were both in the category of young, immature dudes that have more energy than sense.
I saw it through Catelyn's eyes when she observed how great everything looked, but how ill-prepared they were for actual war.
That's not a gay thing, in my opinion and experience. That's a reckless youth thing. Take away Renly's youth and he becomes a stupid, vain man. It's a huge disservice to the character in my opinion.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
In answer to Aaron's earlier question:
Ned's role as a semi-retired soldier who finds himself caught between duty and family is not greatly affected by being aged 15 years.
Sean Bean is a big name to get for a show like this, and I think the producers made the right choice to cast him.
This situation is entirely different.
This isn't the case of HBO making a decision to alter a character's age to support a big name casting choice. This is a case of folks supporting the idea of aging Renly 18 years because they're trying to find an empty casting slot in which to shove someone who has stated that he'd like to be in the show.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
And one final note, AYH:
On the Sandor/Sansa comparison, Sandor has to have the physicality and the acting chops, which Rory provided. If a younger guy had done that, D&D may have gone with him instead.
The fact is, though, that GRRM has stated that:
1) He didn't consider Sador/Sansa a couple.
2) Renly and Loras *were* a couple.
"some fans want this awesomely beautiful young gay couple rather than an awesomely beautiful young knight with a charismatic man who happens to be in his mid-thirties"
Again, as it's described in the book rather than a speculation-fueled revision?
Yes, please.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
It feels a little bit like when people were suggesting making Stannis the oldest Baratheon brother so as to be able to cast Ian McShane in the role. Trying to shoehorn actors into a role which doesn't really fit them, just to have the actor in the show.
I'd rather the casting people tried to find actors that fit the role, rather than change the role too much to try to fit the actors, if that makes sense?
SilverstarQuote Reply
I completely agree, Silverstar.
It's very much the same as the "let's see where we can put my favorite actor" game. Not that O'Meara is necessarily anyone's favorite, but the fact that he's indicated that he's hopeful he'll get a part, makes up the difference.
I like playing it myself, but am well aware that it lends itself to stretching the bounds of plausibility when making a casting suggestion.
It's worth noting that in cases where the change in age was somewhat dramatic, it was done so with good reason.
In the case of Dany, they cast an older actress due to the legalities of the sex scene involved.
In the case of Ned and Sandor, they cast older actors because they had other qualities that matched that of the characters which overshadowed age, or because of their prestige/experience.
I see no benefit in casting O'Meara as Renly that would justify such a dramatic jump.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Well here's a question regarding believability then:
If you have Mark Addy (45 playing 45) and Sean Bean (50 playing 45), how do you then justify having "younger brother" Renly looking the same age as Robb Stark?
Maybe you can, but that's you (the collective "you" who believe Renly should remain 22 whilst everyone else in his family is aged up). Personally, I'd still want Renly aged up. Renly never came across to me as an extravagant youth; he came across as a vain man. In A Game of Thrones, Ned Stark did not speak to Renly on the bridge as though he were some kid – it was man to man (even if he found Renly to be prone to drama and a bit prone to overreaction). Nowhere in the series was Renly ever considered a "youth."
For ease of use, let's go with the Wiki description:
"Renly Baratheon: The younger of Robert's brothers, the Lord of Storm's End, and Master of Laws on Robert's Small Council. He is a handsome and charismatic man, winning friends easily, but also strikes some people as frivolous.
Though Renly is Robert's youngest brother, Robert gave the Baratheon seat of Storm's End to him rather than Stannis. The lands of Storm's End are considerably larger and richer than those of Stannis's Dragonstone, giving Renly more power than his older brother. While there, Renly fostered a young Loras Tyrell, and the two began a love affair (which author George R. R. Martin has confirmed). Eventually, however, Renly was called to King's Landing to be a member of Robert's court."
He fostered Loras, which intimates he has at least a number of years on him. Additionally, the fact that he was given Storm's End showed, at least in Robert's view, that he was capable of strong leadership – and wasn't thought of as a child.
GRRM has on many occasions wished aloud he had aged up many of the characters, and while he hasn't said it, I'm going to add Renly to this list. Robert's Rebellion ended in 283. Renly died in 289 at the age of 22. Which means he was made Lord of Storm's End at the unlikely age of 16 or 17 – and as a better candidate for that than Stannis, apparently. While this may work in the book, to a degree, I don't believe HBO is going to go in the "youthful" direction with Renly. I also don't believe Loras Tyrell will be played by a 16 or 17-year-old actor – he'll probably be in his early 20's much like Jon and Robb.
But back to the subject at hand: if they want O'Meara for Renly, I support it, they just have to make him look a little younger than Addy – not exactly difficult. If they want O'Meara for Littlefinger, I support it, based on his clipped and precise performance in Peacemakers, and the fact that he is slight of stature. I think he'd be even more appropriate in the roles of Edmure (my personal pick) or Jory.
Now if they want him for Loras, well, that's a stretch. Unless they are changing Loras completely.
Same goes for him playing Hodor. Or Old Nan.
Would he be my first choice for Renly? No. But the people who argue he "can't" be this, that, or the other are wrong. The TV show will not be the books. I'm personally as curious to see the differences as I am to see the details that are kept.
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AYH,
This "the TV show is not the books and we should trust HBO" talk is going to drive me batty, I think.
First of all, because that's my line.
Second of all, because HBO has in no way weighted in on Renly's age.
I was a fan of HBO dramas before I ever became a fan of the books. I'm going to watch the show no matter what they do.
That said, at this point, the idea that my support of keeping Renly under thirty is somehow contrary to HBO's plans is pure speculation.
I think, however, you have a point about the fact that the ages of Robb and Renly shouldn't overlap. I also agree that Loras will be aged up. At least to 18, if not a bit more.
Also, I have to point out that "The Peacemakers" is seven years old. A 33-year-old O'Meara playing Renly? That *might* have worked for me.
Still aging up Renly and Loras together would have its problems, too.
Push Loras too far towards an already aged-up Renly and the age difference between Loras and Sansa starts to change the dynamic there instead.
It's a tricky deal, but one I'm positive HBO can handle.
Still, it seems that you're saying you don't actually think he's been chosen as Renly over Littlefinger, you're just arguing to prove a point, yes?
Paul GudeQuote Reply
(Note: I'm not saying he's been chosen as ANYTHING. I'm just saying that you're not arguing because you think: A) He has been chosen and B) He's been chosen as Renly. I think you've already stated that that's not the case, I just wanted to clarify.)
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Ugh. I just watched the peacemakers pilot. I honestly can't remember his Band of Brothers performance, but I found his performance on Peacemakers to be overacted and annoying. Can anyone link some other clip of his that may make me change my mind? Based on Peacemakers, I'd be happy to pass on Mr O'meara.
Critical GeekQuote Reply
Gudeness,
My point is I am generally against anyone saying an actor "can't" do this or that role for anything other than major plot-changing reasons. Things like making Cersei a brunette would be a huge mistake – not because we're accustomed to her as a blonde (insert haughty sniff) but because it would necessitate a drastic plot change; Lannister tresses are integral to the story, like Tyrion being a dwarf, the Hound having burn scars, and Brienne being unattractive and ungainly.
Actions are far more vital than physical traits. Littlefinger betraying Ned is integral to the story, and Ned dying before season 1 even ends is integral. But there are few physical traits that are integral to plot. Look to the script for changes in that respect (and the leaked pilot script had very few changes from canon – impressively so).
I would argue Arya being trained by Syrio is integral, while "Stick them with the pointy end" is not, technically; it's just a favorite line. I hope they keep it.
Having Renly played by a 40-year old man wouldn't change the plot at all. He's still "The youngest brother of Robert Baratheon." It would simply change the dynamics of his relationship with Loras slightly – a relationship, I might add, that remained off-screen in the novels.
They'll probably make their relationship an on-screen thing in the HBO production, and if Renly is in his late 30's and Loras is in his early 20's, well, that's what the audience is going to be accustomed to. The majority of Game of Thrones's viewership is going to be people who've never read these books before in their lives. So what they see on HBO is going to be what they know.
Don't say an actor "Can't." I got more than enough of that ill-tasting cup regarding Tamzin Merchant (who will be brilliant, mark my words) and even Mark Addy to an extent. It sounds so petty; like we're so invested in these characters we can't see past a few cosmetic changes and recognize we are indeed in very good hands.
A little more trust, a little less kneejerking, and little Yea will be one happy camper.
To the people who have favorite actors and are trying to fit their square pegs into any of the GoT round holes, well, you're just as bad. If your actor is American, he already has two strikes against him. Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here.
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@AYH,
It's the shoehorning in of actors that is the annoying thing, really. See the Ian McShane as Stannis thing I mentioned earlier. Changing a character unnecessarily to fit a favourite actor when there are a lot of other actors out there who would fit the role better is just a bit bizarre, to my mind.
For me, Renly does need to be fairly young. He can be older than twenty, if needs be, but forty is way too old. Renly's youth and inexperience is why he does what he does, it's why he sees the whole kingship thing as one big game. That doesn't work for me if he's forty. By forty, in Westeros, you are not going to be that naive, surely?
SilverstarQuote Reply
@Silverstar
One could cargue that Ned was rather naive to confide in Cersei what he knew of her children.
I'm with AYH on this one – Renly being 40 would not a problem. As long as he's younger than Robert I'm fine. I know quite a few immature and vain men in their 40's, so I can live with Renly being aged up. Personally, I find him being the lord of Storm's End at such a youthful age in the book hard to believe.
meggyoQuote Reply
Oh, and as for my thoughts on O'Meara – looks like a Tully to me.
meggyoQuote Reply
@Meggyo,
Now there's an arguement I can sink my teeth in.
Ned had a clear aversion to killing kids. He lost his fricking Handship over it, for Pete's sake. Had the King come back in good health, or his expected deal with the goldcloaks gone through, He would have been perfectly justified in his actions, being merciful to the mother of kids he'd rather not see Robert angrily or even stonefacedly kill or seen killed, a la elia and elia's children and his plan for Dany.
He did not see any moves for Cercei, and THAT was his problem, lack of vision as to how ruthless other game players could be.
Critical GeekQuote Reply
I think the main thrust of my point is being lost, which is why I asked my question to AYH earlier.
You're arguing in defense of something that hasn't happened. Winter posted a quote by someone who *wants* to be in Game of Thrones.
All of us started speculating about who it could be. We started suggesting any role that would be possible. "Shoehorning" is a great way to describe it.
When some of you suggested Renly for him. I, and several others, said that he was too old.
The thing is, now you're defending the idea as if he's actually been chosen for the role. It's gone from "he could play younger," to "Renly actually *can't* be younger, he needs to be an older man," to, "GRRM broke my suspension of disbelief by having Renly being Lord of Storm's End."
Critical Geek, you who warn of the echo chamber, did this cause not a blip on your radar?
Just another point about this age thing not mattering, the fact that Renly was chosen as lord of Storm's End when he was younger than Stannis is significant. Also the fact that he was more than ten years younger than him.
Again, you *can* ignore this fact, just like you can make Renly a stupid, vain man instead of a reckless young man. However, it does diminish some of the motivations and textures GRRM has woven through the text.
That isn't to say that I won't accept it in cases where it happens, just that I don't understand people advocating it when it's unnecessary.
The aging-up of characters is not universal. Theon is 20 in AGoT and Alfie Allen is 23 now. Richard Madden is the same age.
So, the dynamic has changed from Theon being sort of an older brother to them being equals. Am I upset about it? No. Why?
1) Perhaps the relative youth and inexperience of Theon was more important than him being an "older brother" to Robb.
2) Because Robb and Theon have already been cast.
Again, once HBO actually picks someone from Renly, that's Renly. End of story.
I can and do throw my support behind anyone actually cast by HBO for a role because the director/producers have put them through an audition process and know it's who they want.
That's why the "don't assume you know what an actor can do" line is so galling to me in this case. It's the exact thing I was saying to people when they said that Tamzin didn't have the chops to play Dany.
There is a *huge* difference between me saying I think O'Meara is too old to be cast as Renly and that he doesn't have the ability to play a role into which he's actually been cast.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
@Critical Geek
That seems rather the same to me. What you consider lack of vision I call being naive.
From Dictionary.com – Naive: (adj) 2. having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information.
Having been around and seeing first hand the kind of ruthless cruelty the Lannisters were capable of (demanding Lady be killed; the killing of the Stark guards) he should have been wary of approaching any Lannister.
meggyoQuote Reply
As far as Ned being somewhat guileless when dealing with Cersei, I attribute that to his unfortunate sense of honor than to his age.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
@Paul Gude
I think you're being a tad overly defensive over all this. Relax! :)
I never declared Renly must be older because I thought he was too young in the books. I'm just saying if they do decide to cast older, I can live with it. And I think that's all AYH is really saying as well. I don't think any of us are really saying "we want a 40 year old Renly" – we're just saying it's no big deal if we do somehow end up with one.
meggyoQuote Reply
Meggyo,
I'd be interested to know how young a Renly you'd accept.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Paul,
I'll accept whatever HBO decides. If they want to leave him at 22-ish I can live with it. I think it would be better to age him up to late 20's though since everyone else has been aged up.
meggyoQuote Reply
Meggyo,
That's about what I'm expecting, too.
I think we're actually of similar minds, regarding us both going with whatever HBO does. It's just that it'll take me a bit more effort to come around.
The million dollar question of course:
If HBO actually does cast O'Meara as Renly, will I be okay with it?
The answer is yes.
But until that exact instant, I'll hold out for the possibility that they're going in a different direction.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Also, to bring this back to reality a bit, if we knew for sure that O'Meara was cast and we had to guess what his role was, out of all of the ones that izakmo mentioned, for me, Renly would be towards the bottom.
(See what happened there?)
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@Paul Gude
I can agree with you on that point. While I can see a bit of resemblance to Addy, he wouldn't be my choice for Renly either. I definitely don't care for him as Littlefinger. Guy Pearce is just too ingrained in my head for that particular role (too bad I won't get him). :( LOL.
meggyoQuote Reply
HBO has been doing a good job so far of casting folks that I didn't expect but work once they're announced.
I need to point out again that the change of wording in the quotes is significant to me:
"Well, it may involve a Game of Thrones. Nothing definite but my fingers are certainly crossed."
That sounds like there's a deal in the works and the "nothing definite" is an indication that the series hasn't been picked up yet.
"Well, I love the David Benioff script for Game of Thrones. He's a genius writer. His 'City of Thieves' is my favourite novel of the last ten years. If I have a career wish its to join the world of fire and ice he's creating with HBO. Fingers crossed."
It shows that he's read the script, and perhaps there's been some contact, but it doesn't sound at all like the near-sure thing in the first quote.
Of course, this is all my inference, so nothing is sure.
Still, getting picked up is step one, I figure. I'm pretty confident it'll happen, but it still tints casting speculation in a bad way for me.
Although, the more of these we get, the better I feel about that possibility.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
We know he's auditioned for Jaime, and obviously didn't get it. My feeling is that he's hoping that the series gets picked up, and they remember him, and ask him to come back and audition for another role that they think he would be better suited for. Didn't we figure Conan Stevens was doing something similar? Auditioning for Drogo in the hopes that he would be asked back later to audition for Gregor?
SilverstarQuote Reply
Indeed, Silverstar.
In fact, Conan Stevens then went on and explained that's what he's doing in an update to his post:
So they view the audition, they chose another guy who has the look that they were originally after (I did not look anything like the character description except for being over six feet and muscular). My agent was like "don't worry we'll try again for some other roles"
Worry? Who's worried. Everything worked out very well.
I chased down the audition myself thanks to a reader of my website giving me the heads up that the casting process was going on, so I got to do the casting but I did not land the part, no surprise there, I would have be a last resort if they could not find anyone else… I already knew this when I tried to get the casting.
BUT I did get in front of the casting people. Remember this is a pilot, only a few of the characters from the full TV show will be introduced in the first episode (the pilot).
There will be other characters, there is one in fact that I believe that I am very suitable for. Having been sent the entire script for the pilot I can say that the TV series will suit me very well too.
So I did not get the role BUT I did get my face, my acting and most importantly my physique in front of the casting people. It would not surprise me if my details were stored for later auditions when/if the TV pilot gets the green light and becomes a full show.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Paul Gude-
'but it still tints casting speculation in a bad way for me.'
Strikes me from your tone that you harbor some resentment toward the actor we're discussing here. That seems a bit ridiculous since he's obviously in the mix somewhere behind the scenes and judging from what credits I can find he's certainly qualified. I don't see him as Jamie Lannister, definitely not. Jamie is supposed to be the most beautiful attractive best looking fellow. As interesting as NCW is I think Jamie Bamber would have been a better choice. He's way better looking, but maybe ,like Mr Stevens mentioned above, O'Meara wasn't thinking of the Lannister role either. They just made him read for it and they'll distribute parts from those who tested well for the pilot. Didnt he say something about liking 'the ' world of ice and fire.' That's the WORLD,right? – which would suggest he's drawn to the overall work and is excited about it coming to fruition on screen. Who wouldn't be excited? Certainly gets us excited. Agreed? So then,is your issue just the idea of him playing Renly or the idea of him being in the series at all? Because if its the latter that just sounds biased and unfair, frankly. Its unlikely the man is a total outsider. He must know something is brewing. I'm inclined to agree with the others here. Any news is good news. So its all good. I'm joining the Tully nominators. Go GoT !!!!!
LazyQuote Reply
Lazy, it's just Renly.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
Renly? No. Just no.
He might make an interesting Littlefinger. The peacemaker bit showed he can at least do arrogant well. Brynden Blackfish Tully, however, would also work.
I'd like to clarify how I feel about him though. I like him like I like Bruce Campbell. Fun to watch, but I wouldn't want him to go near this project.
If he IS going to be a part of it, I'm hoping that what I didn't like about peacemakers was directorial affectation rather than actor character. Still waiting for links.
On Ned. Naive? not quite. Certain of the strength of his position would be how I would put it…
Critical GeekQuote Reply
You don't have to be naive or not naive. Ned is a strong, smart, and experienced ruler, in his own setting. He's also naive of the kind of politics practiced by people like Cersei.
Paul JQuote Reply
I just watched some Peacemakers on hulu. By the looks of it must have been made years ago and I'm gonna say its a directorial thing cos from the pilot to the episodes is so weird that it can't be the actors just making it different. Even the old guy, Tom Berenger, looks uncomfortable. The pilot has humor and I quite liked it but the episodes I watched don't have any. Its nuts. American tv is just crazy. That said I liked him in it. Intense. That'll come in handy when facing off against Lannister's mob.
LazyQuote Reply
Obviously, I meant COULD come in handy.
Critical Geek – I like your Blackfish idea.
LazyQuote Reply
I would think O'Meara is too young for the Blackfish; Brynden Tully is old Hoster Tully's brother, after all, and one of the few adults Jaime Lannister ever looked up to when he was a kid.
(I suspect in future books Jaime and the Blackfish will cross swords, actually; they seem to keep crossing paths.)
But with makeup? Sure, they could age O'Meara up. Personally I'd go older though. Were I casting Brynden Tully, I'd go with someone like a younger-ish Brian Cox.
Hmm, who can suggest a mid-to-late 50's actor who looks tough as nails yet keenly intelligent? That would be where I'd fish.
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You may have just described Colm Feore, but he's only 51.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
What about Brian Cox in person. Thats a great idea.
He'd do it,surely.
LazyQuote Reply
If they could "youth up" Mr. Cox in the hair-and-makeup department I'd be all for him as the Blackfish. Dude ain't no spring chicken.
About Yea HighQuote Reply
'neither is Hoster Tully or Blackfish. We're talking peers of Tywin here.
Critical GeekQuote Reply
…but thinking on it more. yeah…the only part I see that fits O'meara now is Littlefinger.
Critical GeekQuote Reply
LITTLEFINGER !!!
He's so littlefinger. Watch the Peacemakers stuff online. He's smart cunning and charming when he feels like it. Its Littlefinger. I mean sure I like Aiden Gillan as an actor certainly , but he doesn't come across as mentally sharp enough for this role. Y'know? You want someone…I dunno this OMeara guy feels right now that I look at it
LazyQuote Reply