Two quick news items pointed out to me by Adam Whitehead. One, Bear McCreary, the composer for Battlestar Galactica, was a popular fan choice to score Game of Thrones. A Thrones fan relayed this interest to McCreary on his blog and this is what McCreary had to say:
Yeah, I’m aware of that series. It would be fun to score, wouldn’t it? Well, some vocal fans would always make any attempt easier.
…….
Well, I certainly did tons of Arabic inspired music on BSG, Medieval and Renaissance would be fun I guess, although harmonically that music is pretty limited. But, no one from Game of Thrones is banging down my door at the moment, so don’t anyone get their hopes up here. :)
Also, it looks like Tom McCarthy has moved on to his next project. He will again be behind the camera, this time directing an indie film entitled Win Win. The filming is scheduled to start in late February.
Winter Is Coming: No idea whether they are even looking to hire a composer at this point. It is likely that HBO will wait until they decide whether or not to pick up the show before looking for a composer. Most of the time the pilots that execs watch are pretty bare bones, with just a minimum amount of post-production work done on them. I would imagine music is something that could wait until a series pick up. Hopefully they will look at McCreary when the time comes, as I think he would be a solid choice.
And it’s nice to see that McCarthy is continuing to further his directing career. It remains to be seen whether the timing of filming for his indie would alter the time line for Game of Thrones season one filming (if there is any). We still don’t know whether McCarthy will be back as director of subsequent episodes or not, so his involvement with Thrones may completely end prior to Feb. In which case, his indie film project won’t have any effect on the schedule for Thrones.
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Foist.
And awesome! The fact that Bear McCreary has the project on his radar is a good thing.
Hello, HBO … you listening?
About Yea HighQuote Reply
Don't forget the IMDB complete credit list as well ;-) Nothing surprising on there, but interesting to have the full credit list available as well, including the fact they used multiple film units. I wonder if that was for Morocco and the UK, or if they actually had two units operating simultaneously during the UK shoot?
With ROME the BBC and HBO were keen to have Michael Apted set up a very consistent tone and
feel for the whole series other directors could come in and look at it and get ideas for it, so they had him direct the first three episodes in a single block. Something similar happened on THE WIRE where Clark Johnson (who oddly played Gus, the boss of Tom McCarthy's character, in Season 5) directed the pilot, establishing a very strong visual style the show would use, and then came back and directed the second episode to maintain continuity.
OTOH, other HBO shows like DEADWOOD and CARNIVALE changed directors after the first episode with no major problem.
Btw, someone seems to have updated the DEADWOOD and ROME Wiki pages with a lot of detailed stuff on their production, which would have been interesting several months ago when we were debating how these things could apply to THRONES (CARNIVALE's pilot was filmed over 21 days, ROME did not have a pilot and was developed as a full series from early on, etc).
Something that may still be applicable: ROME had a four-month gap between the end of shooting and the commencing of transmission. Since THE WIRE had similar gaps (even longer on the final season), this leads me to believe that we should now be thinking about late spring 2011 transmission assuming pickup etc.
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
@Whitehead
GoT might be a unique situation due to the amount of child actors who will be actively aging in real life. they may not be able to afford the amount of downtime other shows have in the past.
However, D&D may have something up their sleeve to get around only 3 years spanning the first five books. I suppose time will tell?
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
The timeline for the first three books is eminently fudgeable. Also recall the GRRM has said he wished the first three books had spanned a much longer timespan to give the kids a chance to grow up as well.
The other (highly unlikely and improbable but nevertheless mooted) option is that they go for the two-year pick-up and production of S2 is getting underway whilst S1 is screening, which reduces the gap between filming to just a few months.
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
Huge fan of McCreary's work, so I'd love to see him work on GoT.
DysfunctionQuote Reply
If it's an indie flick professionally directed, it won't take long to shoot.
I never heard of reary, dont care, would rather have him stick to bsg type stuff.
FünkeQuote Reply
I agree with Adam. Some people wring their hands over the possibility of Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams, and Isaac Hempstead-Wright aging too much, but in all honesty I don't think their aging compromises anything. The story is made to take leaps in time; so long as they film everything sequentially I think it'll work.
Barring Maisie suddenly sprouting gigantic cans or Isaac growing to 6' within the next few years (poor Hodor), we're golden. Hell, Sophie's already tall. A few more inches won't matter.
About Yea HighQuote Reply
All I was saying was that having several child actors as main characters may change the parameters for how much down time they have between seasons. And I do think that will be the case in one way or another (ie, the showrunners and producers will be cognizant of this fact).
They are going to have to deal with the aging issue even if they shot everything with NORMAL breaks, let alone long lapses between seasons. I just don't see it happening.
I also think you guys are underestimating the ramifications of "fudging the timeline" with these books. Everything that happens relates implicitly to certain events happening and overlapping with others. If you don't agree, just ask GRRM why book 5 is taking so long.
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
I am curious about the credit list.
I have learnt on this blog that IMDB is fan editable, but I doubt that any of the fans could know the names of each crew member.
I am asking then: Who did put that list on the IMDB?
The rabbitQuote Reply
Bear McCreary's work on Battlestar Gallactica is PHENOMENAL! The music on that show was so brooding and intense.
He would be far and away my #1 choice to do the music for Game of Thrones.
HBO, make it happen!
shadallionQuote Reply
"Who did put that list on the IMDB?"
HBO, I imagine. Film companies themselves also send information in to IMDB. Otherwise the individual crewmembers may have added themselves to show what they've been working on (as a major HBO pilot, picked up or not, is an impressive addition to their CV, which IMDB doubles as).
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
Thanks, Adam.
The rabbitQuote Reply
I have just discovered a rather new fan site dedicated to GoT.
Interseting, with lots of pics of our cast.
The rabbitQuote Reply
As adverse as I am to folks pushing BSG cast members for roles that I think may be less than ideal for them, the idea of Bear McCreary doing the music for Game of Thrones doesn't hit the same raw nerve. (Again, not because I think it's a bad show, but because people seem to lose their minds every once and a while trying to fit BSG cast members into Game of Thrones any way they can. One man's opinion, nothing more.)
After listening to more of his work, I think McCreary do a fine job, and if there's some fan crossover because of his work on BSG, so much the better.
Trauma was definitely better because of the soundtrack.
I think it'd be a fine move on HBO's part if they decided to go with him.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
McCreary is such a good fit, imho, that I just emailed HBO and let em know.
http://www.hbo.com/apps/submitinfo/contactus/submit.do?title=Other%20Programming%20Information&questiontype=general
Celtic Bear’s CaveQuote Reply
I just made that same suggestion on the HBO feedback site.
Commence the petition!
shadallionQuote Reply
I'm sure the editors will throw on a temp track for the pilot presentation. That's pretty common and it will give it that finished feel for viewing.
It's also very easy to do – you can pretty much slap on any music so long as it fits the subject matter, and if the shots are cut rhythmically enough, it's going to look like the shots were cut to the music. I remember in film school one teacher took the opening scenes from Witness and played the Blade Runner score over it, and it "magically" fit perfectly. It almost always works.
BrudeQuote Reply
As related from Westeros, Irish actor Peter O'Meara (who was in BAND OF BROTHERS amongst many other productions) has put GAME OF THRONES on his 'wishlist' of projects he wants to get involved in. I took this to mean that if the show gets picked up he will try to audition for some roles more than that he's been in contact with HBO already.
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/peter-omeara-blows-up-jerry-bruckheimers-the-forgotten,1088660.shtml
Based on his looks and from what I remember of him in BoB, he could make a decent Renly or Beric (since they'll be presumably aged up along with the rest of the cast), or possibly Littlefinger. Maybe he and Aiden Gillen could have a labyrinthe powerplay-off to see who gets the role?
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
At 40, I think O'Meara would make a better Stannis than Renly.
Paul GudeQuote Reply
To me he has the Tully look. Edmure?
About Yea HighQuote Reply
Hm, a little bit too soft of look for Stannis, maybe?
The first idea when I looked the photo (I have not heard of a guy, I admit)was Littlefinger.
But he could easily pass as Renly, a little aged up and good make up.
The rabbitQuote Reply
Oh, yes AYH – Edmure with be perfect choice, thank you for reminded me.
The rabbitQuote Reply
can somebody remind me what actor this looks like? (it's actually teddy sears in "a single man", but damn it if he doesn't look JUST like this other actor i can't remember his name).
-Who Is This?
i feel like i've seen the guy i'm thinking of in a war film, and/or a period drama about mid-century business men. not aaron eckheart but someone in that vein.
any help would be appreciated.
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
sorry, fixed the link:
Who is THIS?
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
A shamless ignorant as me could not help you Ryan, but to me, that lady on the photo looks familiar.
The rabbitQuote Reply
Could be Reese Witherspoon from Walk the line (you know Johnny Cash autobiography-movie), if she is on that pic (I could be wrong), then the must be the guy who played the producer Sam Philipps, and his name is Dallas Roberts.
The rabbitQuote Reply
nope, it's ginnifer goodwin. she's on big love. not sure who the other guy is.
nikkiQuote Reply
ironically, ginnifer is also in walk the line, and i do believe the guy is dallas roberts.
nikkiQuote Reply
Yeah, it could be him.
And movie is probably Walk the line (I presumed it because of her hairstyle.)
The rabbitQuote Reply
I could see O'Meara as Edmure or Beric, but I don't think he would work as either of the Baratheon brothers. As for Littlefinger, to me he doesn't quite seem right but I can't place why.
shinyteapotQuote Reply
@ryan duuuuude, you are really f**** with my mind right now with that pic… first i was like "damn, he is right, who is that? i know him"… then came the idea: andrew miller playing the autistic guy in "cube"!!! oh how proud i was to have found it, but then i looked again and: "but he really looks like that OTHER actor…" and i can't get a grasp :-DDD so right now we are two lost people on this blog *g*
(the one i am thinking of maybe was playing in something like "saving private ryan" or "band of brothers" or similar)
*ggnnnngnnngnnn* i hate it when something like that happens :-P
MarshallQuote Reply
@Marshall
Thanks to Paul Gude, I figured out that the guy this actor in the photo reminded me exactly of was…..
JOSH LUCAS
However, the actual actor is Teddy Sears (this is a still-frame from "A Single Man" starring Colin Firth).
My mystery hath been demystified!
…ryan
invertebraeQuote Reply
Though I like Bear McCreary, he did an outstanding job on BSG and "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles", I would prefer Harry Gregson-Williams who created such a beautiful score for "Kingdom Of Heaven", or people that have already worked with HBO, like Jeff Beal whose score for "ROME" was one of the best I ever heard for a TV series (sure an HBO series) or the combo of Rob Lane and Joseph Vitarelli who did great, great work for "John Adams".
If Bear McCreary gets the job, I would not be sorry at all, but I guess we'll just have to see, first and foremost "Game Of Thrones" will hopefully get picked-up as a series and move on beyond the pilot stage…
loco73Quote Reply
@ryan
hoooooooombre, that's exactly him, right :-DDDD
(though actually right now i am reminded of two other actors that look like him *lol* "all them their actor-people looking da same to me")
MarshallQuote Reply
Peter O'Meara looks pretty Littlefinger-ish to me. I remember him as Lt. Dike in "Band of Brothers," I believe. Wasn't his character the really inept Lieutenant who gets replaced by Lt. Spears during the attack on that village?
It certainly sounds like he's in talks or done a reading based on they way his statement is worded. I bet he read for Benjen or something, and they are keeping him in mind for whatever other part.
Edmure is quite possible, too, though Littlefinger is certainly the plum part out of the two.
BrudeQuote Reply
Peter O'Meara is too old for Renly/Beric/Edmure. He's about twice their age. Not even Neds age got doubled with Bean.
He's too broad in face and body for Littlefinger – bet he's too tall, too.
I mean – does looks mean next to nothing to some of you people?
sjweningsQuote Reply
Oh, sjwenings,
"Wut'chu mean 'You people'…?"
O'Meara is 40 years old. Edmure wasn't twenty, and everyone else has been aged up. They can make him look slightly younger, and dude already looks almost exactly as Edmure looked in my head.
We're not randomly throwing his name into the wind. The fact is, he mentioned being hopeful about a role in Game of Thrones, so we're postulating based on that. What other role would you suggest he was hoping for? What's your guess?
About Yea HighQuote Reply
He doesn't look like an Edmure or a Renly to me. Or a Littlefinger, for that matter. He just looks too old for all three characters. Renly is supposed to be twenty, aged up to maybe mid twenties. Edmure and Littlefinger are both younger than Lysa Tully, which, if Catelyn is aged up to mid-to-late thirties, puts Lysa about 35, and Edmure and Littlefinger around 31-32, I'd say.
He's more of an age for someone like Bronn or Davos or MAnce Rayder.
SilverstarQuote Reply
About Yea High
Oh, sjwenings,
"Wut'chu mean 'You people'…?"
O'Meara is 40 years old. Edmure wasn't twenty, and everyone else has been aged up.
-Whoever suggested him for characters he looks nothing like.
Ok, Maybe Edmure isn't the worst suggestion – he might not have been 20 (can't quite remember) but Renly and Beric is. And noone has been aged up 20 years.
sjweningsQuote Reply
I don't think the books ever specified how old Edmure was, only that he was the younger brother of Cate and Lysa. How much younger is Lysa? Again, I don't think it says, just that she's the younger sister. I'd always assumed Cate and Lysa were pretty close in age, maybe just a year or two apart and Edmure was maybe a two or three years younger still. So, if Cate is around 40 in the show, I would imagine Edmure in the 35 year-old range.
The exact age of Petyr isn't so important, only that he is "of an age" with Cate and Lysa. He's perhaps perceived as younger because of his looks and his size.
BrudeQuote Reply
Edmure must be a fair bit younger than Catelyn, as she was brought up as her father's heir until Edmure was born, and travelled with him at times to visit his vassals and so on, from what I recall. My assumption has always been that he was around seven or eight years younger than she was, and she was pretty much his mother figure as he grew up.
Lysa would be maybe two or three years younger, I'd reckon.
Could be wrong, but that was the impression I always got.
SilverstarQuote Reply
Seems a little weird that Edmure wouldn't already be married if he's not much younger than Cat/Lysa.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Well, the wedding he eventually got was one quite to remember.
KnurkQuote Reply
O'Meara is a year younger than Aiden Gillen, who seems to be a popular choice for Littlefinger (as in turn he is the same age as Jennifer Ehle, but can pass for a couple of years younger), so I'm not sure he wouldn't be suitable.
However, he doesn't yell out "Littlefinger!" to me in the same way that Gillen/Simm/Callis do. He could be a decent Edmure, if he could convincingly pass for several years younger than Jennifer Ehle. Otherwise someone like Lord Karstark? Alliser Thorne? A few possibilities there.
Have we had casting suggestions for Roose Bolton? That could be fun :-)
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
I think someone suggested Zeljko Ivanek, a guy with sloveninan origins.
He looks right for Bolton.
The rabbitQuote Reply
Well, I think I just orgasmed at the thought of McCreary doing a "All Along the Watchtower"-like piece for the Rains of Castamere at the Red Wedding. …sorry.
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