GRRM gives us new clues: Shae, Doreah, and Irri cast
By Winter Is Coming on in Casting, News, Speculation.

So we don’t get too down about the recasting news (see the post below), Martin has given us new clues to puzzle over in his latest Not A Blog entry … and he’s certainly not making them any easier. Here they are:

Big brother’s gift is the sexiest female. The sellsword’s gift is like cherry cola. Take twelve steps to big brother’s gift. No, no, the other one. Big brother’s gift is not the sexiest female. The sellsword’s gift was shopping when they found her. Big brother’s gift has known a lot of ups and downs. No, no, the other one. Big brother’s gift is a friend of the kraken’s sister. The sellsword’s gift once won a deer. Big brother’s gift came from the great white north to the land of oak and hollies, where she was the sexiest female, sometimes. Yes, that one, The sellsword’s gift tackles life head on. Big brother’s gift gets a F. No, no, the other one. Controversy and the sellsword’s gift are no strangers. All the gifts are hot, hot, hot… but that’s not a clue, just a comment.

Winter Is Coming: Wow, at first glance, this one seems very confusing. I’ve learned not to doubt you guys, though. Have at it!

UPDATE: GRRM has confirmed that Roxanne McKee (photo to the left) has been cast in the role of Doreah. Congrats to Vog on getting this one first!

UPDATE: GRRM now confirms that Sibel Kekilli (photo to the right) will be playing the part of Shae. Nice job by Tysnow for figuring out this one!






UPDATE: Looks like Amrita Acharia (photo to the left) has been cast as Irri and was the third actress that GRRM was hinting at, at least according to her Spotlight profile. Good job by Woodwynd for connecting the dots first. Still awaiting confirmation from Martin.

UPDATE: And Martin has confirmed it! Great job everyone! (P.S. If you are wondering about Jhiqui, another of Dany’s handmaidens, the word from GRRM is that she does not have any lines in the series.)


296 Comments

  1. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Furrever has already guessed who the characters are on the pycelle recast post:

    Fat man’s (Illyrio) gift = Doreah
    Sellsword’s (Bronn) gift = Shae

    I sent them to George to see if those are at least right. I can’t believe how quickly that was thought of!

  2. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    So speculation is that the fat mans gift is actually all three : Irri, Jhiqui and Doreah. and the sell swords gift is shae… fun

  3. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,

    Three, eh? Fabulous. I can’t wait to see how ridiculously quickly people figure this out. I need to go back to my corner and write though…try not to keep distracting me with new posts, Winter!

  4. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Sellsword’s Gift (Shae) – Clues:
    1. Is Like Cherry Cola
    2. Was Shopping When They Found Her
    3. Once Won A Deer
    4. Tackles Life Head On
    5. Is No Stranger To Controversy

    just in case it helps to break it out by clue grouping. i cannot for the life of me differentiate which clues for the 3 fat man’s gifts go together? can anybody else?

  5. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Try a couple of ideas

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Metcalfe

    Hollyoaks, obviously. “Friend of the kraken’s sister” – appeared on the TV show ‘Lily Allen & Friends’. Probably voted ‘sexiest female’ at one time or another.

  6. Wastrel
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Yee begorrah… this show is turning into a giant Hollyoaks reunion party! At least it’ll have no difficulties attracting teenage girls to watch it, I guess, just for the actor-spotting. Although I’m increasingly frightened about the acting. I know the casting people are brilliant, but… has something happened to them? Have they all had nervous breakdowns without anyone noticing? I continue to trust them… it’s just getting harder. [No comment against any specific actor hired, of course - as I said last time, bad shows can have good actors on them. It's just the increasing improbability. And you know, we DO have good shows in the UK. It's not like we've got a dearth of great actors who'd jump at an HBO role.]

    Anyway, I’m calm now. Just frightened. And… I have no idea what Martin is going on about there. He’s clearly stepped it up a notch in complexity of clues.

  7. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    I’m guessing Shae did a lot of commercials on tv. But I suck at this so I’ll leave you guys to it.

  8. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    Shae clues:

    The sellsword’s gift is like cherry cola.
    The sellsword’s gift was shopping when they found her.
    The sellsword’s gift once won a deer.
    The sellsword’s gift tackles life head on.
    Controversy and the sellsword’s gift are no strangers.

  9. Alexander
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    The “sexiest” and most well known girl from the great white north girl is Pamela Anderson.

  10. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel: Yee begorrah… this show is turning into a giant Hollyoaks reunion party! At least it’ll have no difficulties attracting teenage girls to watch it, I guess, just for the actor-spotting. Although I’m increasingly frightened about the acting. I know the casting people are brilliant, but… has something happened to them? Have they all had nervous breakdowns without anyone noticing? I continue to trust them… it’s just getting harder. [No comment against any specific actor hired, of course - as I said last time, bad shows can have good actors on them. It's just the increasing improbability. And you know, we DO have good shows in the UK. It's not like we've got a dearth of great actors who'd jump at an HBO role.]Anyway, I’m calm now. Just frightened. And… I have no idea what Martin is going on about there. He’s clearly stepped it up a notch in complexity of clues.    

    Last week I saw a youtube video with Julianne Moore and Marissa Tomei in from As the World turns, have faith.

  11. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Ok here’s a thought on one of the actresses

    Big brother’s gift came from the great white north to the land of oak and hollies, where she was the sexiest female, sometimes.

    So, I suggest that the actress is from canada ( the great white north) and came to the land of oak and hollies, emigrated to Britain. and she’s been rated a sexiest female at some point?

  12. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    “like cherry cola” to me suggests ‘Lola’ – maybe a character played? Might be a totally different reference though. And it doesn’t exactly work, so that’s probable.

  13. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    BTW, he changed fat man in big brother.

  14. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Alexander,

    Ew. No she isn’t. Trisha Helfer is!

  15. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Lucy Richer,

    could mean red headed and bubbly?

  16. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    so focusing on the Shea clues can anybody think which one is a good starting point. ie the most obvious clue? the found her shopping is could be they literally found some random hot girl while she was shopping (like the Beautiful South found their 2nd lead singer) but that seems unlikely since no clues would lead to someone that unknown. so that makes me think she was in a movie or tv show or commercial about shopping. nobody in Confessions of a Shopaholic fit, most are Americans. any other British “shopping” movies or TV shows us Americans might not know?

  17. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Ya he said he changed it quick, but not quick enough for some of us…just under my post guessing the 4 characters we have posted. Sooooo i think this is the right track!

  18. Vog
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    How about Roxanne McKee. Hollyoaks, voted for sexiest on hollyoaks, imdb says she’s from Canada (great white north) and has been in Lily Allen & Friends.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxanne_McKee
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1861467/

  19. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Knurk, oh yeah. Visery’s was the one that gave Dany her handmaidens. Illyrio gave the eggs of course. Totally didn’t catch that.

  20. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz,

    Nice one! George must have been out of his mind thinking the the fans wouldn’t guess that fat man is Illyrio. Good job on beating George to it.

  21. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Vog,

    Damn! Just came here to post that! Thought I’d done super well too :-(

  22. Alexander
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz,

    Believe me there’s a lot of better ones from the great white north but if you made a family feud question about it the name you’d hear most is Pamela….but I think they found her at a football game in the stands…..so she may be out.

  23. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Vog,

    Ya but wiki says she was born in England?

  24. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    I think we can say Roxanne McKee is a definite – so we can take out ‘kraken’s sister’ and ‘great white north / oaks and hollies”.

  25. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    Shae’s might be played by Sibel Kekilli she was discovered in a shopping mall and one the part to Head On a German/Turkish film that won many awards including some for Ms. Kekilli. There was a media controversy over in Germany when it was discovered she had starred in some porn films and her parents broke off contact with her. She is stunning and apparently a great actress with and without clothes.

  26. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    God, now I mixed them up myself. Stupid me.

  27. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Alexander,

    Haha I am sometimes just a wee bit ashamed of Pam. Sorry I had to insert my Canadian prejudice in there! haha

  28. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz,

    “Roxanne McKee was born in Canada 10th August 1980 but her family later moved to England and she was brought up in Sussex. ”

    - seems more convincing than Wiki

  29. JRQ
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    assuming illyrio’s 3 gifts, and assuming GRRM’s clue is written so that “no, no the other one” means NOT the one mentioned immediately previously (but subsequent clues could switch without notice), we could say the first five “fat man” clues pertain to G1, G2 and G3 as such:

    G1: sexiest female
    G2: take 12 steps to
    G2 or G3: Not the sexiest female
    G1 orG3: lots of ups and downs
    G1 or G3: friend of the Kraken’s sister

    I lose track after that, though…

  30. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    no reason to believe its her, but being canadian myself
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisha_Cuthbert

  31. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    Lucy Richer,

    WAIT. Let’s confirm that she was born in Canada, eh?
    The wiki gives a town in England, IMDB just says Canada. Can we find an agency with her?

  32. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Oops, I meant WON the part for “Head On”, wish there was an edit button if you realize you goofed after preview.

  33. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Roxanne_McKee has both a Hollyoaks connection and was on Lily Allen and Friends

  34. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    http://www.revellation.co.uk/hollyoaks.htm

    “ROXANNE McKEE

    Roxanne McKee is currently plays Louise Summers in Hollyoaks.
    She left studying for a degree in politics from Sussex University
    to take up the role.

    Roxanne won SEXIEST FEMALE at the Soap Awards 2008!”

    Could be her!!

  35. Vog
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz,

    Wiki actually gives two different towns in England (Worthing and London)… Google also gives 1980 and 1982 as birth years, so it’s really not very clear.

  36. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    So is she gift 1 or gift 3?

  37. burth
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    the part about “winning a deer” could refer to the German film and media award called the “Bambi”

  38. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Vog,

    Going off that site i just posted, because of the sexiest whatever award, I’m thinking it just might be right!

  39. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Here is the wiki link for Sibel Kekilli, has more details on her bio.

  40. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:07 pm | Permalink
  41. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    i found Sibel Kekilli that fit’s some Shae clues:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Kekilli

    she was first found at a shopping mall and cast in her first film.

    she was in a film called Head On

    she has faced controversy for starring in pornographic films and for speaking out against Islam as a violent religion.

    she won a bambi prize for her work in Head On

    this has to be Shae

  42. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    burth,

    Bingo, didn’t see that one, great observant eye.

  43. burth
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    yup, that’s the solution.

  44. Nemo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Btw, George just noted in his blog that 4 character was “one too many.”

    I’d guess that they decided to combine the roles of Irri and Jhiqui.

  45. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    hahaha. great minds are thinking a like. too bad i type too slow and tried to find a fit for all the clues before i posted, ya beat me fair and square. good internet sleuth work.

    any idea how she fits “cherry cola” clue? that is the only thing i couldn’t find and it was what caused my delay in putting it up …. any ideas?

  46. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    I wonder… what if there’s actually only two gift girls from Viserys/Illyrio? I don’t recall if they had so different fates that they couldn’t be merged from three to two in an adaptation? It would make the clues a little easier to decipher.

  47. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,

    BAH What the eff? Only two handmaidens? did they get rid of one of the Dothraki girls you think?

  48. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    “cherry cola” – lola prize?

  49. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Bloody hell, George thinks faster than I do. Which is, on the other hand, quite a good thing. :P

  50. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    WHERE are you seeing tysnows posts?? I see people responding to things he says but its not showing up on my feed?

  51. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    I see I’ve got to start downloading some new porn the upcoming weeks…

  52. burth
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    i was just looking through a list of bambi winners when I saw tysnow had already posted the solution. didn’t know that “Gegen die Wand” was called Head-On in the international version or this one would’ve been easier for me :)

  53. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    let me just say that

    A. it is extremely cool that Sibel was once a porn actress. and

    B. she was in one of my favourite all time movies by my absolute favourite director. Fay Grimm by Hal Hartley.

  54. HisXLNC
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    So we have Sibel Kekilli and Roxanne Mckee so far? Sibel as Shae.

  55. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    K can someone repost Tysnows deciphering of Sibel as Shae, cause I’m missing that on my feed for some reason.

  56. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz,

    i didn’t see his post either until after i looked around for 10 minutes for a way that Sibel fit the “cherry cola” clue and then i posted and read back and saw he had already posted something.

  57. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if I’m loving Sibel as Shae…

  58. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Lucy Richer,

    there you go. cherry cola – lola prize. that was the one i was struggling to find. i guess i should have just put up Sebil when i had all the rest but i am OCD. what can you do :)

  59. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    So left over we have:

    “take twelve steps”
    “known a lot of ups and downs”
    “gets an F”

    is that right? :-\

  60. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Lucy Richer,

    I think, not sure, trying to verify but she appeared in Savage Garden’s Cherry Cola music video.

  61. williamhperkins
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    For the record, if you’re using Google Image Search for Sibel Kekilli, make sure you have safe search turned on if you’re at work. She’s had some ‘interesting’ roles.

  62. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    williamhperkins: For the record, if you’re using Google Image Search for Sibel Kekilli, make sure you have safe search turned on if you’re at work. She’s had some ‘interesting’ roles.    

    Wow…

  63. JRQ
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Ok, with 2 gifts from the fat man, it sounds to me like:

    Gift 1:
    Sexiest female
    known ups and downs
    Friend of the Kraken’s Daughter
    Gets a F

    Gift 2:
    take 12 steps to her
    Not the sexiest female
    Came from great white north to the land of Oak and Hollies, where she was sexiest female sometimes

  64. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Well, I don’t think Sibel’s extremely hot, but let’s remember she’s a campwhore. I think for a campwhore she looks quite nice. My god, this sounds pretty rude.

  65. ShaggyMarco
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    I’m pretty sure we have 2 handmaidens and Shae.

    The breakdown, as far as I can tell:

    HM 1 (Doreah?):
    1. The sexiest female.
    2. Has known a lot of ups and downs.
    3. Is a friend of the kraken’s sister
    4. Came from the great white north to the land of oak and hollies, where she was the sexiest female, sometimes.

    HM2: (Irri or Jiqui?)
    1. Take twelve steps
    2. Is not the sexiest female
    3. Gets a F.

    Shae:
    1. Is like cherry cola.
    2. Was shopping when they found her.
    3. Once won a deer.
    4. Tackles life head on.
    5. Controversy and this actress are no strangers.

  66. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: K can someone repost Tysnows deciphering of Sibel as Shae, cause I’m missing that on my feed for some reason.    

    1. was found by a casting director in 2002 while at a Cologne shopping mall and asked to audition for a role.

    2. that role was in a movie called Head-On in English

    3. she won a Bambi award for that role in Head On

    4. she won a Lola Prize (Cherry Cola reference) for her lead role in When We Leave (2009)

    5. has courted two major controversies. first it was found after she had gained acclaim for her role in Head On that she was previously a porn actress (looks like about 13 films in 2002) and the second was when she has spoken out against violence against women especially in Islamic nations/cultures calling violence “belonging to the culture of Islam”.

    i think that covers it.

  67. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    williamhperkins: Sibel Kekilli

    why in the hell would i want to do that … :)

  68. Meredith
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Shae’s like cherry cola clue makes me think of the Savage Garden song “I Want You” and I would guess the actress in the music video except that it was made more then 10 years ago…

  69. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Awesome thanks! Ya, I keep looking around and can’t find when/where he said it. Whatever. Thanks for sharing, I posted it on not-a-blog for confirmation!

  70. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    That seems very, very unlikely. The Lola Prize should cover the reference absolutely fine, no?

  71. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    i think i am definitely going to have to research some of her “early work”. tehehe

  72. williamhperkins
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Wait a minute… are you telling me that there are boobs… on the internet?!

  73. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Meredith,

    I’m getting the impression some people don’t know their Kinks very well ;-)

  74. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    I’m loving it that WiC has to moderate all the posts that have the P-word in them.

  75. JRQ
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    hmm…. I like ShaggyMarco’s breakdown on the handmaidens better than my own…”came from great white north” applies to #1, therefore “gets an F” applies to #2.

    Does that mean GRRM was being redundant with clues 1 and 4 for handmaiden 1, when he says she was the sexiest female twice?

  76. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Really? I think she’s pretty hot. lol

  77. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    williamhperkins: WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,
    Wait a minute… are you telling me that there are boobs… on the internet?!    

    the internet. the greatest tool for the repository and dissemination of knowledge in the history of mankind … and half of it is dedicated to pornography. say’s a lot about the state of humanity and civilization. something good and something sad.

  78. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Well that wasn’t her in the video but I noticed someone got the Cherry Cola reference, so I say split the accolades, since several of us were on to her and I jumped in w/o matching the Cherry Cola clue because when I saw the shopping mall match, the movie Head On match and that she starred in porn films when she was a teen, I felt pretty confident it was her.

  79. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    The twelve steps are of course a reference to AA. Maybe she was in the movie 12 steps?

  80. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    The “F” clue belongs to Roxanne McKee, who is in an upcoming movie called “F”

  81. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    When you find some, post the links, so some of us can determine if she has what what it takes to give Tyrion what he wants.

  82. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Btw…searching Twitter for Sibel Kekilli yields some…interesting…videos…

  83. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    ShaggyMarco: I’m pretty sure we have 2 handmaidens and Shae.The breakdown, as far as I can tell:HM 1 (Doreah?):
    1. The sexiest female.
    2. Has known a lot of ups and downs.
    3. Is a friend of the kraken’s sister
    4. Came from the great white north to the land of oak and hollies, where she was the sexiest female, sometimes.

    so we have this one. it is Roxanne McKee

    Shae:
    1. Is like cherry cola.
    2. Was shopping when they found her.
    3. Once won a deer.
    4. Tackles life head on.
    5. Controversy and this actress are no strangers.    

    and this is Sibel Kikille.

    which leaves us with only this:

    HM2: (Irri or Jiqui?)
    1. Take twelve steps
    2. Is not the sexiest female
    3. Gets a F.

    any ideas?

  84. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    yum thanks for that. No more dinner for me. lol

  85. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?:
    so we have this one. it is Roxanne McKee
    and this is Sibel Kikille.which leaves us with only this:
    any ideas?    

    I think the F clue and the ups and downs need to be swapped. Roxanne is going to play in a movie named F.

  86. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Veelo: Btw…searching Twitter for Sibel Kekilli yields some…interesting…videos…    

    oh. already found those clips my friend. and it would appear that Sibel has all the skills required to fulfill her role as Shae quite nicely.

    i love it that a porntstar (former) got cast in this show. sure it isn’t as big as casting Sasha Grey in Soderberg’s “The Girlfriend Experience” but still cool nonetheless.

  87. Knurk
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Sasha Grey? Never heard of her!

  88. Ghostie
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Think I have an answer!

    Lauren Parkinson,

    She was in the movie “gimme twelve steps.”
    Also in “Eastern college,” which got bad reviews (The “F” reference?)

  89. Brude
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    “is like cherry cola” suggests the Kinks classic song “Lola” to me (it’s a line from the song that GRRM is likely to know).

    That could either mean her name is Lola, or that she’s really a man…my guess is the former.

  90. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Roxanne McKee isn’t from Canada, so how does that clue match her, could it reference the other handmaid still to be determined.

  91. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Brude,

    Is that a moderated comment, or just a little behind the times? ;-)

  92. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Long shot but
    Aishwarya Rai
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aishwarya_Rai

    was voted 12th most on VH!’s most beautiful and won two trophies at the Idea Zee F Awards

  93. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Knurk:
    I think the F clue and the ups and downs need to be swapped. Roxanne is going to play in a movie named F.    

    ok. excellent catch.

    so the final part hast he clues:

    1. take twelve steps (to find/reach/etc her)
    2. is not the sexiest female
    3. has had her ups and downs (another porn actress maybe? i keed i keed)

    for some reason that doesn’t seem right to me.

  94. Brude
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Sasha Grey is a very famous porn star, partly because she does videos that are VERY dirty, partly because she’s quite smart and a good interview, but even more so now because she was the lead in “The Girlfriend Experience,” a Steven Soderbergh movie.

  95. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    according to the others she was born in canada. i was just reposting their stuff. i was only focused on the Shae clues because i couldn’t make sense of what clues went to which handmaid.

    really i am still a bit confused because the order of “no no not that one” would make the F clue go with the as yet undecided handmaid but it also fits Mckee.

    so i am all sorts of confused on the handmaids.

  96. Brude
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Lucy Richer,

    No, I just wanted to make the joke about maybe whomever they cast is really a man…

  97. Syleon
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    YOU HAVENT?!…sorry. I guess no one watched the AVN awards.

    What I find funny about the Sibel pics is that in one picture she is S-ing some dudes D…and right next to it is her with her bambi award next to tom hanks…

  98. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Brude: Knurk,
    Sasha Grey is a very famous porn star, partly because she does videos that are VERY dirty, partly because she’s quite smart and a good interview, but even more so now because she was the lead in “The Girlfriend Experience,” a Steven Soderbergh movie.    

    VERY doesn’t even really do it full justice. FILTHY? even that doesn’t do her porn work the credit it is due. and she is very much a “nerdish” sort off the porn set (like Stoya or Justine Joli who are both big fantasy nerds) and wasn’t too bad in TGE. of course it was type casting but still. respectable work.

  99. Ana Carolina S.
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd: Long shot but
    Aishwarya Rai
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aishwarya_Raiwas voted 12th most on VH!’s most beautiful and won two trophies at the Idea Zee F Awards    

    I don’t think so.
    Aishwarya Rai is a major star in Bollywood and I don’t think shw would take a secondary role on a western TV series, even a HBO one.

  100. Lucy Richer
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Brude,

    Well, I think someone suggested several discussions back that they could go down that route for Brienne. It would have been a better cue that way, for sure.

  101. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Ana Carolina S.,

    she also received an order of france award, was a model “ups and downs”…
    a lot of things can be made to fit the clues…. this is tough

  102. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Ana Carolina S.: I don’t think so.
    Aishwarya Rai is a major star in Bollywood and I don’t think shw would take a secondary role on a western TV series, even a HBO one.    

    well she was in the Last Legion so … you never know. that was pretty rubbish.

  103. burth
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    I’m hoping that the “ups and downs” thing refers to a specific film title etc., since it would be a pretty useless clue otherwise… Same thing for the “not the sexiest female” line, maybe a second place in a poll?

  104. Lior
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    GRRM’s post now reads “Big Brother’s gift”. Methinks we will be seeing Tysha in flashbacks.

  105. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Ok, so I’ve appeared onscreen with Shae actress. How absurd is that? :D

    …no, it was not one of her “early films”…

  106. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Lior,

    Actually Doreah was Viserys gift to Dany, of course the fat man actually gave her to Viserys to give to Dany. So the reference Big Brother’s gift could be point to the role.

  107. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell: Ok, so I’ve appeared onscreen with Shae actress. How absurd is that?
    …no, it was not one of her “early films”…    

    really? that’s kind of cool. which film.

    and if you are a girl, and especially if you are a hot girl, i am disappointed it wasn’t one of her “early films” but i’ll get over it :)

    especially if it was one of my top 10 films of all time Fay Grimm

  108. Brude
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    It’s Roxanne McKee as Doreah, GRRM has confirmed it.

  109. Franny Bee
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Wow, Sibel is… flexible.

    I found this video where she couldn’t find her sept, so this helpful guy went looking into it… Oh, they found it all right (they found it again and again actually), and they both seemed very happy about it.

    Great gal! ;)

  110. Ana Carolina S.
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    That’s a good point. o.ô

  111. Lior
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    You’re right; all three handmaidens were gifts from Viserys even though Illyrio provided them.

  112. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Concerning that final “hot” role, could up reference “Sky” and down “Earth”, and I think some were on the right track with the twelves steps refering to AA. If this train of thought is in the right direction, I wil put forth Azura Skye, her name is Skye “Up” and she was born in Northridge, CA., sight of the famous “Earthquake”, she starred in 28 days alongside Sandra Bullock, which we know concerns AA rehab. Still trying to match the F clue. Here is her http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005439/

  113. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Brude: It’s Roxanne McKee as Doreah, GRRM has confirmed it.    

    we cannot possibly have Sibel wrong so is he just slow on the 2nd confirmation or what?

  114. Brienne
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    The f goes to Mckee as Doreah.

  115. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?:
    and if you are a girl, and especially if you are a hot girl, i am disappointed it wasn’t one of her “early films” but i’ll get over it

    Lucky for you it wasn’t one of her “early films”, I’m quite an ugly young man ;P

    The film in question is Pihalla, a Finnish-German production in which I was an extra. All the moments added together, I might have gotten more than one second of screentime! But it was a funny experience, even if the film itself didn’t end up being that terrific (not that I was expecting it would).

  116. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell: WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,Lucky for you it wasn’t one of her “early films”, I’m quite an ugly young man ;PThe film in question is Pihalla, a Finnish-German production in which I was an extra. All the moments added together, I might have gotten more than one second of screentime! But it was a funny experience, even if the film itself didn’t end up being that terrific (not that I was expecting it would).    

    well if you are “quite an ugly young man” then it is certainly good luck for us. but very very bad luck for you :)

  117. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    GRRM says:

    She has thrice been nominated for “Sexiest Female” in the British Soap Awards, winning twice (she was the sexiest female twice, NOT the sexiest female once).

    So all we have for the final casting is 12 steps and ups and downs. Not much to work with.

  118. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,

    I think you could be right! I really like that suggestion, either way…the guys are too busy talking about porn to see what you’ve said though…jeez.

  119. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Brienne: tysnow,
    The f goes to Mckee as Doreah.    

    if that is true. and it seems likely. then i am not sure i understand the logic behind the grouping of the other clues? that clue applying to McKee would seem to go against the grain/logic of how the other clues were grouped together.

    so by process of elimination what clues do we have left for the last role, ie the ones we know don’t apply to McKee?

  120. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: Woodwynd,
    I think you could be right! I really like that suggestion, either way…the guys are too busy talking about porn to see what you’ve said though…jeez.    

    now now. don’t be like that. i am paying attention. but give us guys a break. how often do we get an opportunity to legitimately talk about porn? it is a rare occasion indeed. :)

  121. Steve
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    It’s pretty ridiculous George marked his post as adult content… I mean, seriously? Is the US still THAT prude?

  122. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    12 steps, not the sexiest woman, ups and downs….
    is it possible the other one could refer to jamie not Viserys and be tysha?
    she wasn’t so much a gift, and the clues all had fat man first right? so possibly not… confused

  123. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Hahaha, OH WHATEVER.

  124. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: Woodwynd,
    I think you could be right! I really like that suggestion, either way…the guys are too busy talking about porn to see what you’ve said though…jeez.    

    ok. i could be on board with azure sky.

    1. in 28 days. about rehab or 12 steps
    2. played in a movie Confessions Of An Ugly Step Sister (not the sexiest)
    3. was in Heaven Falls (up and down)?

    so that could definitely fit but i wouldn’t be 100% sure about it.

  125. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,

    to clairfy “no,no the other one” mean the other big brother

  126. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Steve: It’s pretty ridiculous George marked his post as adult content… I mean, seriously? Is the US still THAT prude?    

    maybe he was just practicing how to do it for when he confirms the casting of Sibel?

  127. Brienne
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Veelo,

    I don’t know. The way that’s worded, the 2nd handmaiden may also have a “sexy female” award under her belt, just not multiple wins and one loss as McKee has.

  128. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    I can’t find anything online about an actress by that name…unless you are commenting on woodwynds guessed actress? Aishwarya Rai?

  129. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    I think the clues left are
    Not the sexist woman (the “sometimes” clue was the one GGRM referred to in his confirmation post)
    12 steps
    and ups and downs

    azure sky seems to fit well

  130. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,
    I can’t find anything online about an actress by that name…unless you are commenting on woodwynds guessed actress? Aishwarya Rai?    

    sorry. Azura Skye. tysnow first suggested it but didn’t have the clue fits quite right.

    1. 28 days (about rehab) – 12 steps
    2. Confessions Of An Ugly Stepsister – not the sexiest
    3. Heaven Falls – Ups and Downs?

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005439/

  131. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Damn, you are very observant, I was so blinded by Sky and Earth idea because of her name and birthplace I didn’t bother looking at her other roles. Kudos for noticing that, WIJB.

  132. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    hmmm ya the clues fit. But who would she be? She doesn’t look Dothraki to me. Could it be as Woodwynd said earlier that no no the other one refers to another brother?

    Azura would make a beautiful Lyanna.

  133. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    tysnow: WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,
    Damn, you are very observant, I was so blinded by Sky and Earth idea because of her name and birthplace I didn’t bother looking at her other roles.Kudos for noticing that, WIJB.    

    hey. these are team work. that is why we are so fast. everybody pitches in a little.

    she doesn’t look anything like what i pictured the handmaids like. she has been in a few things i liked her in. Salton Sea and Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

    when you first mentioned Azura Skye i also had a “wow, wouldn’t it be totally kick arse if Ione Skye was in GoT”. then i remembered i’m old and nobody else remembers or cares who Ione Sky is.

  134. Brienne
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Jason Patrick- What’s your name?
    Ione Skye- Staaaarrrrr.

  135. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    You deserve the credit for this one since you matched all the clues and I missed one.
    Give Jacopo the credit.

  136. Brienne
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    The only objection I’ll raise to Azura Skye is that she is very, very American. Not too common for this production.

  137. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Big brother’s gift is the sexiest female – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift is a friend of the kraken’s sister – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift came from the great white north to the land of oak and hollies, where she was the sexiest female, sometimes. Yes, that one -doreah
    Big brother’s gift gets a F. No, no, the other one. -doreah

    Take twelve steps to big brother’s gift. No, no, the other one – not Doreah
    Big brother’s gift is not the sexiest female. – not doreah (?)
    Big brother’s gift has known a lot of ups and downs. No, no, the other one. – not doreah

    the” no no the other ones” are throwing me

  138. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    I gave you both the credit when i posted it to George…. :-D

  139. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,
    hmmm ya the clues fit. But who would she be? She doesn’t look Dothraki to me.Could it be as Woodwynd said earlier that no no the other one refers to another brother?Azura would make a beautiful Lyanna.    

    ok. i agree. so if we have the character wrong could it be another? Lyanna seems interesting. Ned and Robert are “brothers”. she is his “gift” to robert?

    wait wait. never mind. it makes sense. Ned is Lyanna’s big brother and she is Neds “gift” to Robert.

    so we would have Azura Skye as Lyanna.

    by George i think we got it! (pun intended)

  140. Brienne
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Please ignore the post where I confuse Ione Skye with Jaime Gertz.
    *expletive*

  141. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Ned doesn’t take me as giving his sister as a gift to anybody. Lyanna probably would have knifed him for a comment like that. lol. Wolf’s blood, and all.

    But I see her as Lyanna, so figure out another way she’s be a gift, dammit! lol

  142. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Brienne: WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,
    Jason Patrick- What’s your name?
    Ione Skye- Staaaarrrrr.    

    any time i see her in a movie all i can think of is the Beastie Boys song:

    “Ad Rock’s down with the Ione. Listen to this sh*t cause both of them is bony. Gotta do it like this, like Chachi and Joanni. Cause she’s the cheese and i’m the macaroni.”

  143. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/168824.html

    confirmed!!!! Goodjob Tysnow!

  144. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    let me say that Azura Skye is a “Possibility”. i am not 100% sold but she does seem to fit but maybe i just twisted the clues to fit the actress. and i am still not sure what role she would fit or what role the clues are supposed to represent. i “think” it could be Lyanna because that could fit but i am by no means 100%. just to clear it up. i am still open to my/tysnow’s idea being totally wrong and a better one being right.

  145. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: http://grrm.livejournal.com/168824.htmlconfirmed!!!! Goodjob Tysnow!    

    basically, we all kick tons of ass!

  146. Vog
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,

    “Not the sexiest” is also Doreah IMO, at least that’s how I understood it from GRRM’s confirmation post.

    Also, Azure Skye seems kind of good, but is the Heaven Falls reference enough for “has known a LOT of up and downs”?

  147. Nemo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    The way George words his post for Roxanne “(she was the sexiest female twice, NOT the sexiest female once)” makes it seem like the “Not the sexiest female” clue applies to her as well.

    Which leaves only the “ups and downs” and “12 steps” clues for the last actress.

    Also since “Big Brother” was originally the “Fat Man”, and George admitted misremembering who gifted Dany’s handmaidens, I’m pretty sure we are looking for Irri or Jhiqui.

  148. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    George is slow responding because he was putting up that post about Sibel!

    I gave two guesses, Azura, and woodwynds guess about aishwarya Rai…just because i love her and it would be awesome if she was one of the handmaidens!

    I’ll going away ‘gain, back to my writing corner. Midnight deadlines. YEEESH.

  149. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?: basically, we all kick tons of ass!  Quote  Reply

    Well yes, of course, we rule. You guys are fabulous…its why I keep wasting my life away on this blog. lol

  150. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Vog: Woodwynd,
    “Not the sexiest” is also Doreah IMO, at least that’s how I understood it from GRRM’s confirmation post.Also, Azure Skye seems kind of good, but is the Heaven Falls reference enough for “has known a LOT of up and downs”?    

    the more i think about it the less i am sold to be honest. but until somebody has something better.

    there aren’t alot of clues to work with for the last one ..

  151. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    ok, so assuming “no, no the other one” refers to the girl not the brother, and that not the sexiest refers to doreah we still have this:

    Big brother’s gift is the sexiest female – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift is a friend of the kraken’s sister – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift came from the great white north to the land of oak and hollies, where she was the sexiest female, sometimes. Yes, that one -doreah
    Big brother’s gift is not the sexiest female. – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift gets a F. No, no, the other one. -doreah

    Take twelve steps to big brother’s gift. No, no, the other one – not Doreah
    Big brother’s gift has known a lot of ups and downs. No, no, the other one. – not Doreah

    perhaps just a mistake on GRRM’s part, but its bothering me a bit

  152. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Remember, he first worded it as the “fat man’s gift” and later changed it to the “brother’s gift” when he realized his mistake. That means any “brother” tricks are out of the question, since brother used to be fat man.

  153. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Veelo,

    ya i definitely think whoever it is has to be one of the handmaidens. He screwed it up at first, so I don’t think the lyanna hinting has a place, as much as I’d love it.

  154. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd: ok, so assuming “no, no the other one” refers to the girl not the brother, and that not the sexiest refers to doreah we still have this:Big brother’s gift is the sexiest female – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift is a friend of the kraken’s sister – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift came from the great white north to the land of oak and hollies, where she was the sexiest female, sometimes. Yes, that one -doreah
    Big brother’s gift is not the sexiest female. – Doreah
    Big brother’s gift gets a F. No, no, the other one. -doreahTake twelve steps to big brother’s gift. No, no, the other one – not Doreah
    Big brother’s gift has known a lot of ups and downs. No, no, the other one. – not Doreahperhaps just a mistake on GRRM’s part, but its bothering me a bit    

    yeah. this is what is bothering me too. either he messed up his own cleverness or F refers to the 2nd, as of yet unnamed casting. which makes me doubt Azura Skye even more.

  155. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    Aishwarya Rai!!!!! lol Ok, see you all in an hour or two, I hope.

  156. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: Veelo,
    ya i definitely think whoever it is has to be one of the handmaidens. He screwed it up at first, so I don’t think the lyanna hinting has a place, as much as I’d love it.    

    yeah. i agree. which is making me doubt Azura Skye even more. i could see her as lyanna but not an handmaid. that and the whole confusion with the “F” clue. i don’t see how the 2nd casting only has 2 very vague clues while the other would have 5 or more.

  157. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    I agree that its surely another handmaiden, the fat man mistake. I think if it were another brothers gift it would most likely be Tysha not Lyanna, big brother being Jaime. Tysha’s story could be told rather than flashback though. I still think its another hand maiden, one could argue that Tysha wasn’t much of a gift in the end (though more than Lyanna to Robert).

  158. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,

    but in his confirmation post GRRM ties the “F” clue to Doreah…

  159. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd: WhoIsJacopoBelbo?,
    but in his confirmation post GRRM ties the “F” clue to Doreah…    

    ok. didn’t read it. ok so i am at a loss. we have two very vague clues for the 2nd casting? seems a bit suspect and now i am pretty much baffled to be honest.

  160. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Yeah I think we’re stumped with the last one. We don’t even really have a starting point – the clues are too vague.

  161. Firelix Zschieschow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Wooo, the girl who is confirmed as Shae was born in a town I lived in for several years as a kid – yay!

  162. Lex
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    Sibel is quite different from my mental image of Shae, but I LOVED GRRM’s story about her audition, as well as the fascinating insight he gives about why Tyrion is so attracted to her. I’m sold.

    I also like Roxanne/Doreah.

  163. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    kelseysnow wrote:

    Jul. 29th, 2010 02:30 am (UTC)
    George, could you pretty please clarify the remaining clues? lol
    We’ve gone and painted ourselves into a corner over on WiC.
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    grrm wrote:

    Jul. 29th, 2010 02:34 am (UTC)
    I may have given too many clues for one handmaid and too few for the other.

    The role is Irri, if that helps.

    Jhiqui will be in the show, but not as a speaking role. At least not for the first season.

    Or at least she won’t be speaking much. A featured extra is sometimes allowed to say a word or two while still remaining an extra. We are trying to clarify whether “It is known” qualifies under this proviso.

  164. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Ok, totally wrong but i thought it was funny.

    12 steps to SERENITY
    Serenity is the name of a porn star , ups and downs?

    kk seriously, stumped

  165. humusTaster
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Doreah is so fine…

  166. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Check my post from my convo with george:

    The second handmaiden is Irri!

  167. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    I’d say “not the sexiest female” belongs to the yet unknown girl, George’s “she was the sexiest female twice, NOT the sexiest female once” either referring to Roxanne’s “the sexiest female” and “she was the sexiest female, sometimes” clues or only the latter, where “sometimes” refers to it happening more than once. Anyway, it seems George got his clues mixed, as both “Yes, that one” and “No, no, the other one” seem to refer to Roxanne.

    All in all, even “Take twelve steps to big brother’s gift. Big brother’s gift is not the sexiest female. Big brother’s gift has known a lot of ups and downs.” is not too easy set of clues. First might even just mean that her initials are A.A.

  168. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell,

    A.A. initials isn’t a bad guess!

  169. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Another ridiculous guess following 12 steps to serenity line of thought.

    Serenity was a movie that had Gina Torres.
    Gina Torres was in fire fly, angel, shes played wonderwoman and vixen super heros who fly in some form or another.

    Gina Torres?

  170. Josh Parker
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Wow…I’m at work and all this is coming way too fast.

    First a new Pycelle, now Doreah AND Shae. All very cool.

    But now let’s see TYWIN!!!!

  171. Lex
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Here’s my favourite pic of Sibel/Shae so far:
    http://www.visum-reportagen.de/files/portfolios/sibel_kekilli.jpg

    I can definitely see the vulnerability/innocence that GRRM mentioned.

  172. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    We have a new clue:

    The F was for Roxanne, you devil.

    Look in a glass eye.

  173. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    amrita acharya

    An actress who’s photo comes up on a site, my glass eye.
    not sure about the ups and downs though

  174. Tyler Metcalfe
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Everyone has different tastes, she is attractive to me!

    Best of luck to the two, but I’m still waiting for that damn Tywin announcement!

  175. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Veelo,

    Haha, yep, I think I’ve pestered George enough for one night. Solve it people, I got ya another clue!

  176. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,

    Well, according to Casting Call Pro, Amrita Acharia has been in a play called Elevator. That would be a lot of ups and downs, no? http://www.uk.castingcallpro.com/view.php?uid=240027

  177. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Veelo: We have a new clue:
        

    i’ve got nothing from recent movies called glass eye or with glass eye in the title. nobody in the few films by glass eye production company of glasseye post production company fit the clues. so i am tapped out on that clue.

  178. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,

    Damn, you’re good at these guesses..you find great looking possibilities!

    She’s a model
    Up and Down the runway?

  179. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell,

    could i have gotten one right?

  180. Maximum Taco
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    How about Jocelin Donahue?

    In “The House of the Devil” produced by Glass Eye Pix and “The Burrowers” which might account for “Downs”

  181. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell,

    ITS GOT TO BE HER.
    lol
    Submitted.

  182. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Roxanne McKee is an interesting choice. Whilst undeniably attractive, she was also one of the better actors on HOLLYOAKS during the time she was on the show. A reasonable choice. I am not familiar with the other actress.

  183. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Maximum Taco,

    The devil was about me. not a clue I dont think. I’ve been pestering him a bit this evening. lol

  184. GaR
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell: Woodwynd, Well, according to Casting Call Pro, Amrita Acharia has been in a play called Elevator. That would be a lot of ups and downs, no? http://www.uk.castingcallpro.com/view.php?uid=240027  Quote  Reply

    That’s pretty convincing. She seems to have the right look too.

  185. Lex
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:18 pm | Permalink
  186. Maximum Taco
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz,

    I figured. But may as well take into account everything. Amrita Acharya makes much more sense. An Indian background would fit better with a Dothraki.

  187. pualo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been watching Sibel Kikilli videos to scout her work. Here’s a good compendium video (warning: pornographic) that shows basically all the sex scenes she was in, I think. I hope we get to see some of this stuff in the show. I would love it if GoT could blow away Rome and other shows in the explicitness department.

  188. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: Snowfell,
    ITS GOT TO BE HER.
    lol
    Submitted.    

    yeah. awesome job to woodwny.

    A.A. – 12 steps
    Elevator – Ups and Downs

    plus the myglasseye thing

  189. Lex
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    Nevermind, Amrita Acharya makes way more sense. I just couldn’t find any info on her at first. I think you might have it…

  190. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Maximum Taco,

    Mmmm yes she looks GREAT for the part. He’s taking a bit to respond to me…maybe because we’re RIGHT and he’s making a new post? *fingers crossed*

  191. Lex
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    New blog update from GRRM, saying that SKY network in the UK has purchased the rights to show ALL original HBO shows, past and present, and will be showing Game of Thrones in the UK.

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/169018.html

  192. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: my glass eye

    here is the pic of A.A. from myglasseye.com

    http://www.myglasseye.net/p/621

    looks like woodwnd is a genius!

  193. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    Woodwynd,
    Frankly, I doubt it’s Amrita Acharya. I can’t link her to “not the sexiest female” clue in any way, in case it was a clue for Irri and not for Doreah as some have suggested. But if all we got for her original clues was that her initials are A.A. and she’s been in Elevator… then GRRM is quite cruel, because that would be completely unguessable without further clues.

  194. furrever
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    Another hint that it’s Amrita Acharia… GRRM said “you devil. Look in a glass eye.” And Amrita Acharia was in the film The Devil’s Double. Am I grasping?

  195. Raija P
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    Amrita Acharia’s Spotlight profile says she’s currently filming HBO’s “Game of Thrones” :)
    link

  196. Brienne
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know. How does Acharia fit the 12 step clue?

  197. sjwenings
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Raija P,

    Hmmm.. Could that be a clue?
    :p

  198. Brienne
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    OH the aa. Please disregard. Not my “a” game tonight, folks. Pun intended.

  199. furrever
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    Raija P,
    Well I’d say that pretty much confirms it!

  200. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    Nailed it!!

  201. Woodwynd
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    Raija P,

    Wow, i’m super shocked. it looks like i got one! The glass eye clue is the only way i could have though….

  202. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    Raija P,

    Well, that might be called a confirmation… Now I regret doubting her at the last moment. :P But anyway, first time I had anything to do with actually solving the clues, yay!

  203. sjwenings
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    Amrita is hot as hell, btw. Dayum!

  204. Lex
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Sibel Kekilli is spelled wrong in the update.

  205. pualo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Looks like a lock for Amrita.

  206. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Brienne,

    Her Initials are AA which she shares with Alcoholics Anonymous, who are famous for their twelve steps to rehabilitation program.

  207. furrever
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell,

    Yeah, nice guess on the initials being AA. I admit I thought you were grasping, but you were spot on.

  208. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    Excellent job everyone. I’m thoroughly impressed. This might have been the toughest set of clues yet, and the best sleuthing. Extra credit goes to Kelsey for getting the key clue out of GRRM :)

  209. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    So congrats to all who played the game tonight and also to the actresses who step into the roles that will hopefully catapult them to loftier heights.

    By the way, this is directed to D&D, we want Lyanna, so please make it happen.

  210. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell,

    Ya thats not a clue for the last person. Look at my posts about the clues from George, revised.

    She fits perfectly.

  211. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Veelo,

    Looking over the post now, I’ve put like 10 responses on there. He just might create a character named Kelsey and plan a horrible death for her now. haha.

    It was worth it.

  212. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Raija P: Amrita Acharia’s Spotlight profile says she’s currently filming HBO’s “Game of Thrones”
    link    

    well that certainly gives it away.

    awesome job woodwynd!

  213. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    Raija P,

    Oh jeez, and I checked that page earlier! Should have spotted that, nice catch!

  214. WhoIsJacopoBelbo?
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    tysnow: So congrats to all who played the game tonight and also to the actresses who step into the roles that will hopefully catapult them to loftier heights.By the way, this is directed to D&D, we want Lyanna, so please make it happen.    

    and cast azura skye … that way when GRRM gives us clues for her we can get that sh*t lickety split!

  215. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Haven’t been following everything very closely, but it looks like you guys have pretty much figured it all out. :)

    Amrita Acharia looks to be the third role GRRM hinted at, do we know whether it is for Irri or Jhiqui?

  216. Veelo
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    He confirmed it’s for Irri. Jhiqui won’t have a speaking role (beyond “It it known”)

  217. Snowfell
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    You could also correct Sebil to Sibel in the update to the post ;)

  218. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    Snowfell,

    how’d you do that? just select that thread?

  219. Josh Parker
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Yeah. Irri’s cast. It’s Amrita Acharia. She’s lovely.

  220. Lex
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Well, here’s my updated cast gallery with the new 4 actors:
    http://lexicopia.blogspot.com/2010/06/cast-of-hbos-game-of-thrones.html

    Nice to have three beautiful new women join the cast in one day!

  221. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Thanks guys. Post is updated!

    I’m not very good at these guessing games so I love that I can just sit back and know that you guys will have everything figured out within a few hours. :)

  222. tysnow
    Posted July 28, 2010 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    So Murdock’s UK SkyB has bought the HBO rights to all their original programming for 300 million over 5 years, I wonder how much of that will be allocated to GoT per season.

  223. Veelo
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    GRRM just confirmed it.

  224. Snowfell
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz,

    There’s a “Link | Reply | Parent | Thread” litany in the lower right corner of every comment in Not A Blog. Just click “Link” and copy the address from the address bar. :)

  225. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    So who figured out the Amrita clues? Want to make sure I give proper credit.

  226. Lex
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    I believe it was Woodwynd.

  227. Snowfell
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    I believe I was first to guess the solutions of twelve steps clue (and ups and downs, but only after Amrita was already mentioned), however Woodwynd of course deserves the recognition of finding the right answer based on the decisive glass eye clue. :)

  228. Lex
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Snowfell: I believe I was first to guess the solutions of twelve steps clue (and ups and downs, but only after Amrita was already mentioned), however Woodwynd of course deserves the recognition of finding the right answer based on the decisive glass eye clue.     

    The 12 steps clue is also very worthy of credit, that was a good one!

  229. Brude
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    I think I count 62 roles cast so far, with several more to go (Tywinn and Miri Mazz Dur I guess are the biggest who remain). Goodness, that’s a huge cast.

  230. Lex
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    Brude: I think I count 62 roles cast so far, with several more to go (Tywinn and Miri Mazz Dur I guess are the biggest who remain).Goodness, that’s a huge cast.    

    I count 61, including Will and Illyrio who may be re-cast.

  231. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    Snowfell,

    I’d better get slight credit for badgering those two other clues out of George!!

  232. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Kelsey Catherine Schmitz: Snowfell, I’d better get slight credit for badgering those two other clues out of George!!  Quote  Reply

    *grins*

  233. The Rabbit
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Missed the party :(
    Well done guys!

    Now, waiting for Tywin!

  234. Aaron
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    I really didnt imagine Shae like that, my first disappointment with the casting so far but Im sure Ill get used to her

  235. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    Well team, here’s to hoping my prof won’t notice I missed her midnight deadline by an hour.

    Should have left George alone and stuck to my work!! Haha, oh well, badgering him equalled the two clues woodwynd needed, right?

  236. Woodwynd
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 1:15 am | Permalink

    I appreciate the recognition, but without the glass eye clue, and the idea that 12 steps was for initials AA, I wouldn’t have found it. And others connected further clues, elevator and devil. Let’s call it a group effort ;) just happy to have played a part.

  237. Amir Mishali
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    So how many castings do we still expect? I count 16:

    Tywin
    Walder Frey
    Grenn
    Rickon
    Greatjon
    Shagga
    Roose Bolton
    Gendry
    Jeyne Poole
    Meryn Trant
    Myrcella
    Tommen
    Tobho Mott
    Jhiqi
    Qotho
    Mirri Maz Duur

    I suppose Walder Frey, Roose Bolton and Meryn Trant are not absolutely necessary for now, but I really do hope they keep them.

    Ilyn Payne, Dontos Hollard, Podrick Payne, Beric Dondarion and Thoros can definitely be postponed to later seasons.

  238. Amir Mishali
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 2:42 am | Permalink

    Forgot Jhogo and Will, so I guess that’s 18.

  239. Snowfell
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 3:20 am | Permalink

    Mya Stone is possible, though I suppose it is quite probable that she’ll be shown only in later seasons if at all. And if I recall correctly, we have it from George that Ilyn Payne is being cast at the moment.

  240. JoseMaria Gutierrez
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 3:48 am | Permalink

    I see Walder Frey and Roose Bolton as very important for season 1. I have more doubts about Greatjon, Kevan and some more Frey apart from Walder.

    The Karstark family could be omitted entirely from the series, but you only need one actor (Rickard) and the rest could be extras, so it will be a shame.

  241. Amber
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 3:52 am | Permalink

    Wooooow! I’m totally excited about Sibel Kekilli being cast as Shae! Although I did not watch a film of her yet she is known to me very well and I think she’s quite famous here in Germany. A friend of mine is a big fan of her performances.
    Perhaps the show will now get some attention here in Germany? Looking forward to it!

  242. burth
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    Good job figuring it out, everyone!

  243. HerrFick
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 5:28 am | Permalink

    Sibel Kekilli is one of the best young actors we have in Germany. Her performance in Fatih Akın’s “Gegen die Wand” (“Head-On”) is stunning.
    I have to admit that I can scarcely believe these news. What a feat of casting, HBO! Awesome.

  244. About Yea High
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    Amir Mishali,

    GRRM mentioned Walder Frey in one of his casting posts a few days ago, so I assume the old buzzard will be in season one. Meryn Trant, the Greatjon, Roose and Bolton have not even been mentioned as yet.

  245. About Yea High
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    Roose Bolton I should say, not Roose and Bolton.

    Roose and Bolton sounds like a department store.

    Also, no mention on Mya Stone as yet, and I’m starting to think things are looking a little grim for Robert’s first bastard.

  246. MrSchwarz
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    Sibel Kekilli …wow a fellow German actress (with Turkish heritage) has been cast. That was really unexpected.

    Not sure how well she speaks english, but she certainly has the necessary talent for the role. She’s imo one of the best actresses our country has. Bummer that whenever she gets cast for a new role in Germany all the tabloids can only focus on her (very short) past as a porn actress.

  247. vic9
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    Just watched a couple videos featuring Sibel Kekilli. Yowza! Winter is Coming? More like, Winter is Cumming.

  248. Wastrel
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    Sky’s showing it in the UK? FUCK.

    Well, illegal downloading it is, then. Buggered if I’m going to wait a year on the off-chance the BBC might get rights to some repeat.

    [And I do want to see the series legally, but getting a dish and a box and paying an exorbitant monthly fee just so that I can watch ONE good show? I think not. Besides, I'll almost certainly be in rented accomodation still, where just sticking a SKY dish on the wall is not so easy - and even if it were, I'd be paying for the NEXT guy living there to watch Sky. Nope, not feasible, however much I want the series to be successful]

    Damn you, BBC.

  249. Mormegil
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:01 am | Permalink

    Amir Mishali: So how many castings do we still expect? I count 16:TywinWalder FreyGrennRickonGreatjonShaggaRoose BoltonGendryJeyne PooleMeryn TrantMyrcellaTommenTobho MottJhiqiQothoMirri Maz Duur I suppose Walder Frey, Roose Bolton and Meryn Trant are not absolutely necessary for now, but I really do hope they keep them.Ilyn Payne, Dontos Hollard, Podrick Payne, Beric Dondarion and Thoros can definitely be postponed to later seasons.  Quote  Reply

    We know Illyn Payne is in as GRRM has mentioned seeing auditions for him, Jhiqui will just be a featured Extra.

    I’m expecting most of the remaining Kingsguard to be extras as well (for Season 1 anyway) they can cast one of them and have that one do any speaking/actions (such as fighting Syrio) the rest could be extras in armour (inc helms so we don’t see their faces). They can then be actualy cast in Season 2 when the characters do a bit more.

    Not too happy with Sky getting GoT (as I don’t have it) but at least they will show it in Prime Time whereas the BBC may have relegated it to 11pm on BBC2.

  250. Wastrel
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    Also, I have to wonder whether this is wise for HBO in the long run. I know SKY are paying them, but they also have to factor in that this will probably kill their DVD sales. Nobody watches Sky, and nobody will hear about HBO shows anymore. Or rather: after two or three years, the intelligensia will hear some good reports from critics, and a few of us may be tempted enough to buy a DVD, but most wont. But there’s a huge market of people who would love HBO shows if they could actually see them, or hear about them. Six Feet Under, for instance, was a massive hit, because it was on TV. Whereas if you mention Deadwood, SOME people might say ‘oh, yeah, I heard that mentioned once, what was it about?’

    Battlestar is a good example. The miniseries aired in 2003, by 2008 or so some critics were saying ‘if you’ve got Sky, you should be watching this’, some people bought DVDs and passed them on to their friends, and by word of mouth, gradually it got to the point where most people within a select social type had heard of it – in 2009, when it was finishing. I and my friends have worked hard proselytising for the series, but it takes so long and reaches so few people. Whereas if it had been shown on terrestrial in 2004, it would have been a massive hit for five years and DVD sales would be immense. The Wire, too – everyone says it’s something they ‘have’ to see, but because you need to spend a whole load on the DVDs, and because most people haven’t been listening to TV critics much, most people haven’t bothered getting into it.

    [I know that refusing to show it on real TV means that we have to buy the DVDs to see it -so the sales-per-viewer are no doubt higher. But this is surely more than offset by the fact that there will only be a fraction of the viewers.]

    Can’t see how this isn’t a terrible idea for everyone concerned (other than His Dark Malignant Majesty himself, of course)

  251. Jon Hunter
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Agreed

    I have made similar comments on http://www.game-of-thrones.co.uk , my dislike or Sky is more Political.

    “Murdocks a wanker who thinks he has a God given right to choose the UK governement.”

    But im gutted as well, bad move by HBO , good move for Sky I think. Anyway without too much blatant plugging registered your views on the poll on the site.

    Wastrel,

  252. Steve
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Shae does so not look like I pictured her.

  253. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    So I guess this deal confirms that BBC has pulled out of the production. Darn.

    I have Sky, so I’m not really affected by this decision, but a lot of people don’t. Sky is way overpriced, particularly since Freeview is such a great option for many. I just think it’s ironic that a series that has such a UK-based stake (actors, location etc) will not reach very many British people.

  254. Jackie
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Wow, I’m glad I missed this last night or I’d have been up all hours! ;) Well done guys. :)

  255. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    My two cents about our three new ladies…

    Roxanne: First reaction, surprised she’s not blonde. Nina Gold must have something against blondes. Obviously they could dye her hair and even if they don’t, Doreah’s coloring isn’t essential to the plot. Roxanne is definitely attractive so she’s got that going for her.

    Sibel: Not what I pictured Shae to look like at all. I always pictured her as the sultry type, not the cute girl-next-door type. But GRRM makes some good points about her character, and since it seems Sibel is a talented actress and apparently has no qualms about “going all the way” on screen, I can live with the choice.

    Amrita: Pretty much spot on, for me. Although, I’m still confused about the ethnicity of the Dothraki. We’ve had black guys auditioning for Qotho and Jhogo, a Pacific Islander in Momoa as Drogo and now an actress of Indian descent will play Irri. I guess the Dothraki will just be a mix of non-white races?

  256. Matt
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    Sooo…. apparently there isn’t an unattractive person in all of Westeros, especially the women?

    Really? Even the characters that GRRM goes out of his way to express are plain or outright ugly in the books have been filled by good looking actors.

    Seems like a weird thing to complain about, i know, but really… there are characters we’re meant to connect with BECAUSE of their plainness.

  257. Tim Schaffer
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Wow, good day to be a male fan of ASOIAF.

  258. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    Matt, which of these three were described as plain in the books? Certainly none of them were referred to as “outright ugly.” Doreah and Shae were always described as hot. Irri, I don’t think much was made of her looks, so they could have gone either way, I guess.

    The only one, in my opinion, they absolutely need to cast as plain or even “ugly” would be Brienne.

  259. Chrysee
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Ironic that Jhiqui has a (mostly) non-speaking role when she was given to Dany to teach her the Dothraki language? :)

  260. userj
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Well! All the guys who have been complaining that there aren’t enough hot women in the cast can stop complaining. I have to say I never thought Doreah was supposed to be super super hot as she’s been cast. Might kind of draw attention off Dany to make her handmaids ridiculous bombshells like this…

    Shae is just fine. I think they could have picked anyone hot and it would have been fine. Though seriously I could care less about her casting than Bronn’s, Which is to say very little. :)

  261. Nymeria
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Wow. Looks like I missed all the fun last night… great job Kelsey, Tysnow, Vog, Lucy Richer, Woodwynd, Snowfell, WhoIsJacopoBelbo, furrever and everyone else who contributed!

    I’m at work, so I won’t google the new actresses, but could someone please post the parts of GRRM adult-only post that are safe for work or summarize its content? For some reason, I can’t see it, even though I enabled cookies and all. Is it pictures? Does he comment on the actresses?
    Thanx!

  262. Scott
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    I can’t go on livejournal at all at work so I wouldn’t mind some reposting of George’s posts on the new actresses.

  263. Veelo
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Here’s the first writeup:

    You Guys Are Scary Good

    Jul. 28th, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    hiya hiya hiya
    muttermuttermuttermutter

    I cannot BELIEVE how fast you guys unravel even my most obscure and difficult clues. The CIA should be looking to hire you all to break cyphers.

    (I’m going to “Adult Content” this post, which I’ve never done before, because… well it will be pretty self-explanatory).

    Anyway, yes, you nailed the first one in three blinks and a winks. The role of Dany’s handmaiden Doreah will be played by ROXANNE MCKEE.

    Doreah was one of three slave girls given to Dany as a wedding present by her brother Viserys (big brother’s gift), though of course Viserys got the girls from Magister Illyrio Mopatis, which is why I misremembered them as the fat man’s gift. Irri and Jhiqui are Dothraki, but Doreah came from the pillow houses of Lys.

    Roxanne McKee was born in Canada (the great white north), but moved to England, where she appeared in the soap opera HOLLYOAKS (the land of oaks and hollies). She has thrice been nominated for “Sexiest Female” in the British Soap Awards, winning twice (she was the sexiest female twice, NOT the sexiest female once). Her most recent role was in a film called F . She has also appeared on LILY ALLEN & FRIENDS, and Lily of course is the sister of our Theon, Alfie Allen.

    Doreah is given to Dany to instruct her in the erotic arts. Viserys himself vouches for her skills. We had a lot of beautiful young women reading for the role, so this one was a tough call. Congratulations to Roxanne on winning the part.

  264. Veelo
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Second:

    You Guys Are Scary Good, the Sequel

    Jul. 28th, 2010 at 7:48 PM

    Spain
    And it did not take you very damn long to figure out the second role as well.

    The part of Shae, the camp follower that Bronn the sellsword finds before the battle of the Green Fork and delivers to Tyrion Lannister, will be played by the amazing SIBEL KEKILLI.

    Shae needs no introduction to any Ice & Fire reader, I would imagine. If you’ve forgotten her, you obviously weren’t paying attention, so get off the internet at once and go and reread the books. There may be a pop quiz.

    Sibel Kekilli is a German actress of Turkish descent, who crashed onto the film scene in a big way in 2004 in an award-winning film called HEAD-ON, after being discovered by the casting director while shopping in a mall in Cologne. She’s won both the Bambi Prize (the deer) and the Lola Award (cherry cola, L-O-L-A Lola, and if you missed that clue, you obviously haven’t been listening to enough Kinks). The Lola is the “German Oscar,” and Sibel has actually won it twice. She’s also won the Tribeca Award and the Golden Orange Prize.

    Sibel has twice been exbroiled in controversy during her short career: the first time when it was revealed that she had done some porn films before HEAD-ON, the second time when she spoke out against violence against women in the Muslim community. She’s courageous as well as talented.

    I want to say a few words about her audition, which I thought was extraordinary. A lot of beautiful young women read for Shae. The scene they were reading was the first meeting between Shae and Tyrion, in his tent on the Green Fork the night before the battle. Shae is a camp follower, a prostitute, and she is, of course, coming on to Tyrion in a big way. There is a LOT of sexual heat in the scene, as written and as played. And all of our Shaes were sexy as hell. Watching them one after another would fog up anyone’s glasses.

    But there’s another dimension to Shae as well. She’s not as practiced and hardened at this as a more seasoned pro. There’s still a girl next door quality to her, a sense of vulnerability, playfulness, and, yes, innocence. And it’s that quality Tyrion responds to, that quality that brings him back to Shae, and drives all that follows. He knows what she is, consciously, but down deep he wants to believe that he has found another Tysha.

    All of our Shaes were hot as hell. But only a handful of them captured that other quality, maybe three out of twenty, and Sibel was the standout. It’s easy to see why she has won all those awards. Watching those auditions, any red-blooded male would want to take every one of our Shae candidates to bed. But Sibel made you fall in love with her as well.

    She’s going to be amazing. And I can’t believe you figured out who she was so fast!

  265. Veelo
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Last one:

    Three for Three

    Jul. 28th, 2010 at 9:58 PM

    Spain
    This time at least it required a second round of clues. But you folks continue to be scary good. Obviously you know every actor and actress in the world, and have seen every film and television show ever made, no matter how obscure.

    (Either that, or you’ve been using this new-fangled thing called the interweb. It’s made of tubes, I hear).

    Anyway, yes, you got it. Dany’s handmaid Irri will be played by AMRITA ACHARIA (spelled Acharya on some sites, but I have it with the “i,” and she seems to be the same person).

    Her initials, obviously, are AA. Twelve steps, get it?

    She has been acclaimed for her performance in a play called ELEVATOR (ups and downs):
    http://www.timeout.com/london/theatre/event/185018/elevator

    A photo of her is featured on a website called My Glass Eye, and she has also appeared in a film called THE DEVIL’S DOUBLE (I used devil as a clue) and another called COLLECTABLES (which I almost used as a clue).

    She’s young, she’s lovely, she’s talented, and she’s Irri. It is known.

  266. Katrina Brooks
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    YES! Irri’s been cast! So sad about Jhiqui not having lines, but oh well. Dany’s handmaidens are three of my favourite minor characters.

    All three actresses look perfect for their parts. I can’t wait to see Sibel and Peter Dinklage in their scenes

  267. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    I don’t think she’s Indian.

    I believe she is part Nepalese. Which is different. Very.

  268. Nymeria
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Veelo,

    Thanks a lot Veelo!

    I really don’t see what warranted the “adult-content” block in these posts. GRRM must just have been over excited about them lol

  269. Mongerel
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Good heavens. Someone posted a WHOPPING NSFW graffiti in grrm’s comments

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/168109.html

    Yikes — take a look before it gets yanked!

  270. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    adult content because of the pictures he included….

  271. Chrysee
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Mongerel,

    Why was that comment even approved??

  272. Kelsey Catherine Schmitz
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Mongerel,

    People are beyond pathetic. Am I frustrated at the length of time it has taken to publish this book? Yes. Would I post something like that on his blog? No. Because I know what deadlines are like, and I also like living my life without having to really answer to the people around me, and I assume, so does George.

    That would be beyond discourgaging.

  273. Scott
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Veelo,

    Thanks a ton Veelo!

  274. Nymeria
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Mongerel,

    Yes, I saw that but didn’t want to give it any more publicity. Too bad it didn’t get automatically moderated. Poor George doesn’t need such pressure nor deserve such disrespectful treatment. This is the kind of stuff that makes other fans ashamed and that unfortunately probably makes GRRM consider distancing himself from his fans.

  275. Mongerel
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    I was kind of hoping that, since it didn’t come to the attention of the mods or the author himself, one of his other commenters might know how to contact them about it. I figure they read here too.

  276. Veelo
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Tywin casting news is coming soon via westeros.org. Can’t wait!!

    ” westerosorg

    Well, well. The Rains of Castamere may be on all of our minds quite soon. #GameOfThrones #GoT “

  277. The Rabbit
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Veelo: Tywin casting news is coming soon via westeros.org. Can’t wait!!” westerosorgWell, well. The Rains of Castamere may be on all of our minds quite soon. #GameOfThrones #GoT “  Quote  Reply

    Yeah, it seems that Ran catched the big fish.
    He deserved it for everything he has done to the ASOIAF world as whole.

  278. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Don’t know anything for certain, but I’d say keep your eyes on Mo Ryan’s blog.

  279. Katrina Brooks
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Chrysee,

    Could it be that they’re swapping Irri and Jhiqui’s roles, maybe? Irri will teach the Dothraki language and Jhiqui will teach Dany how to ride?

    Just a thought

  280. shadallion
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Was anyone else intrigued by the “she has done some porn films” comment?

    Why don’t you Interwebz-stars research that choice tidbit? Please post results.

  281. nap-Desaix
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    did anybody hear anything about the destiny of donal noye? wonder if he’ll make an appearance…

  282. pualo
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    shadallion: Was anyone else intrigued by the “she has done some porn films” comment?Why don’t you Interwebz-stars research that choice tidbit?Please post results.    

    I posted an excellent example on page 4 of this thread.

  283. Lex
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    nap-Desaix: did anybody hear anything about the destiny of donal noye? wonder if he’ll make an appearance…    

    I hope so. On my recent re-read, the fate of Donal Noye and Mag the Mighty was mindblowingly awesome (especially when Jon Snow and Tormund Giantsbane discuss it later).

  284. DragonStargazer
    Posted July 29, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    P.S. If you are wondering about Jhiqui, another of Dany’s handmaidens, the word from GRRM is that she does not have any lines in the series.)

    Okay, not to nitpick, but uh… this article says Jhiqui will not have any lines in the series….but George actually says just for the first season. Just saying…not faulting Winter or anything… :P

    Jhiqui will be in the show, but not as a speaking role. At least not for the first season.

    Or at least she won’t be speaking much. A featured extra is sometimes allowed to say a word or two while still remaining an extra. We are trying to clarify whether “It is known” qualifies under this proviso.

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/168254.html?thread=10768958#t10768958

  285. Chrysee
    Posted July 30, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Katrina Brooks: Chrysee,
    Could it be that they’re swapping Irri and Jhiqui’s roles, maybe?Irri will teach the Dothraki language and Jhiqui will teach Dany how to ride?Just a thought    

    Or Irri teaches Dany about Dothraki culture in general and Jhiqui is more of just a servant? Who cares really. I could never tell the two apart in the books anyway. :)

  286. Jenny
    Posted July 30, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    NOT happy about Sibel.

  287. purplepeo
    Posted July 30, 2010 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    remember, there’s ugly and there’s Hollywood ugly. i’ll bet even Brianne would look only “plain” at worst.

  288. pualo
    Posted July 30, 2010 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Jenny: Jenny

    In what respect?

  289. pualo
    Posted July 30, 2010 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, nice quote.

  290. Owen Billcliffe
    Posted July 31, 2010 at 5:46 am | Permalink

    So THIS is where all those hits to Amrita’s photo on my site have come from! I dropped her a line yesterday to let her know she was the source of much excitement amongst you all ;)

    Hope you liked the photo and there may be more of her in future!

    Best wishes,
    Owen

  291. Jenny
    Posted July 31, 2010 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    I’m german and I don’t appreciate her way of acting, I think it’s very self concious… anyway, I believe she’s also much too old and does look somewhat used.

  292. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 31, 2010 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Owen Billcliffe, cool thanks! It’s a great photo btw.

    Let us know if she replies and what she has to say. A couple of the cast members have posted on here before and we always love hearing from them!

  293. Threepwood
    Posted July 31, 2010 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I think Jenny is right. I’m german, too, and I don’t like Sibel Kekilli for Shae. Although I think she’s a good actress in some roles, in my opinion she is (with nearly 30 years) a lot too old and not even nearly as hot as in the books described. Of course we’ll see how she will play this role, but if you have seen her in some movies, you have an idea. So I have to realize that it won’t be the Shae I had in my had at all.

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