The parade of casting news continues, this time super sleuth Oliver Powell has leaked that Jamie Sives has been tipped to play Jory Cassel in Game of Thrones. Sives, a Scottish actor, has a solid amount of TV credits to his name and recently has earned some roles in feature films such as Clash of the Titans and Get Him To The Greek. Jory looks to be his biggest role yet though.
Winter Is Coming: Many thanks to Oliver for filling in as announcer of casting of minor roles while GRRM is away. This looks like a good choice for Jory. He has a trust-worthy look about him and he has a good bit of acting experience. Congrats to Jamie and welcome to the cast!
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Welcome Jory, seems a solid choice.
Joe BlancheQuote Reply
I loved him in To the Ends of the Earth. How wonderful!
LaivineQuote Reply
Cudos Rabbit…..you should get paid for all the work you put down. Many thanks
c0venantQuote Reply
The only thing i've seen him in was the Queen Victoria ep of Doctor Who. He played a military captain and was, to be blunt, wooden as hell. However, it was a pretty bad episode all round so hopefully better material will inspire him.
Now hurry up and announce Littlefinger, dammit!
MonkeyQuote Reply
Jory was present when Eddard executed the deserter in the first Bran chapter. I wonder if he'll be part of the pilot now, too, if they are going to reshoot the whole thing.
agorQuote Reply
Cool! A fitting name, too ;)
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Nice. For obvious reasons, I'm almost as eager for the casting of Roose Bolton as I am for Littlefinger's.
MorlunQuote Reply
SPOILER:
The main impact Jory has on the story is that he dies at the hands of the Lannisters. And after viewing this video: http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Jamie_Sive… I can see how this casting will make the death even sadder as he just has a very "nice guy"-vibe about him. Seems like another good casting.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Great news!!! I like him a lot. :-) He was in quite a few smaller movies. He was really brilliant in "Wilbur wants to kill himself", great looks and very charismatic. He is also convincing in the role of the "villain", like in "Hallam Foe". That's a Jory I definitely look forward to.
fangrrrlQuote Reply
Good point, another scene to be reshoot.
humusTasterQuote Reply
Actually, I quite liked him in that episode!
Firelix ZschieschowQuote Reply
w, he's sooooo cute!
@KelseyCMSchmitzQuote Reply
yeah, I thought that, too.
The_Rabbit01Quote Reply
Wow I never thought about Jory being a handsome guy :o
ME LIKE!!! ^_^
LiesieQuote Reply
Congrats Jamei! hope you do well.
I love casting news, Winter and the gang keep up the good work.
humusTasterQuote Reply
oh, he is delicious. my love for Jory has just tripled….and i love Jory Cassel!
Danielle Parlatore DalyQuote Reply
Looks like a great choice ! And I agree with @Kelsey …. Jory's death might be even sadder on screen for me than it was in the books = D
@RahBurQuote Reply
Congrats, Jamie!
Also, allow me to take this opportunity once more to say:
Oliver Powell for Will!
*SPOILERS*
He's been so good to the fans. The least we can do is advocate that he be given the opportunity to die horribly.
*SPOILERS*
paulgudeQuote Reply
Reshoot the entire pilot. Now that it's certain at least some of these secondary Winterfell characters are being cast, it's going to seem sort of odd when they pop up in episode 2 when no one even saw them wandering around in the background in the first episode. Actually, the casual viewer will probably never notice. But still, it'd be nice for consistency's sake if they just did the pilot again.
Chrysee HinshawQuote Reply
Yeah, I'm starting to feel that they're just going to shoot, "Episode One," and the pilot footage simply won't be used.
paulgudeQuote Reply
I agree …looks like most of the pilot will be reshot…we may not see this next May
Coltaine777Quote Reply
I like him!
Also, how about the actor who played his dad in that?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0611932/
His plate's pretty full right now, but Peter Mullan was awesome in that last scene, and he was cast by Nina Gold in Red Riding. Maybe season two? I've heard suggestions of him as Davos, although I'm still partial to Tommy Flanagan for that role. Any other thoughts?
paulgudeQuote Reply
It seems that everything leads to the pilot reshooting.
But maybe they could still use some of the pilot footage.
I am still wondering about the prologue, though.
Is it possible that some "behiend-the-scene" stuff is reason for all the reshooting decision?
The_Rabbit01Quote Reply
Let me ask you one thing.
I completely mixed up Jory s background.
!!!!!!SPOILER!!!!!!
His father died at the Tower if Joy? Right?
And Ser Rodrick is his granfather or uncle?
And what about little Beth Cassel?
The_Rabbit01Quote Reply
Let me say from the beginning, I basically assume that anything related to Westeros won't be on time.
Still, wasn't May just an estimate someone made at this point anyway? All I've heard up until this point is "Spring 2011."
The last Spring premier for HBO was Treme, and that was April 11th.
paulgudeQuote Reply
Peter Mullan is definitely my favourite for Davos. He's perfect.
@raijapQuote Reply
Someone from HBO said that they were aiming for a march/april premier. But the pilotreshooting and one month delay of filming will likely set it back til May, i guess. I wouldn't be surprised if it all ends up being premiered early autumn 2011. But thats mostly me trying not to get disappointed.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Yeah, that guy would make a great Davos. Definitely.
BrudeQuote Reply
Jory should be someone you expect to be a boon companion to Eddard/the Starks for a long time. He should stand out a bit – in the books, he doesn't really do much story-wise, but he's mentioned a lot. Jeyne Poole gets very excited when he enters the Tourney, mentions how he's going to soon be a knight.
It's interesting that so many got so upset by his death because he doesn't have much to do or say in the book, but I guess the way GRRM wrote him he evokes something in a lot of readers.
BrudeQuote Reply
I just hope he hasn't hurt his chances by revealing these castings. They may not like that.
BrudeQuote Reply
There could have been ways to insert the various new actors into the scenes. It can be done with switching between long-shots and close-ups, and such. I guess Jory will now be given lines in the finding the pups scene, I believe he has them in the book and the leaked pilot script. That could necessitate a re-shoot of the scene, but honestly it may not be important enough.
I think at a certain point they decided they were reshooting so much, might as well reshoot it all – or nearly all – and just make it all fit. The brothel scene might stay, and the crypt. At this point, it seems like those are the only possibly "salvagable" scenes left.
BrudeQuote Reply
I'd expect some of the green screen footage could be used, unless there are major costume and/or hair and make-up changes that would be too jarring. If they're really trading in Castle Doune for their own Winterfell, some of the "on location" shoots may need to be changed, unless they recreate them as sets.
As far as the prologue goes, I can see a few possible reasons for the reshoot:
*SPOILERS*
1) An actual rewrite that necessitates completely different action from what was already shot.
If you go to :17 in the teaser trailer, Royce and Garred are both off of their horses, back to back. In the leaked pilot script, that was Royce and Will. Garred never gets off his horse. The horse spooks and takes off. If they swapped Will for Garred, it has implications to scenes outside of the prologue. A decision to reverse the swap would necessitate a reshoot of the prologue.
Also, as some have pointed out, it may be that they want to change the prologue to be a bit closer to the books, where we actually see Royce as a wight. Again, this would require a reshoot.
2) If they changed the way they want to portray the Others, a reshoot might be required. If they switched from actors-overlayed-with-CGI to actors-in-makeup or vice-versa, the previous footage may have been unusable. This wouldn't have required a reshoot of the *entire* prologue, but if Bronson Webb wasn't available for that particular reshoot, they'd have reshoot the rest of the scenes with the new actor as well.
3) Maybe after all of the complaints about the snow, they've hired a special snow-wrangler, a perfectionist who has refused to continue until every piece of offending snow is stricken from the current footage. (I kid, I kid.)
*SPOILERS*
paulgudeQuote Reply
I know whenever I'm editing my own little things there's a point when you realize it's just going to be easier to shoot again rather than trying to finesse a piece that doesn't quite fit.
paulgudeQuote Reply
All the more reason to show support. He's gone out of his way to get this information out to fans, and I think it's important for us to acknowledge that we *want* this information and welcome it. I for one want HBO to know that this sort of casting news enhances the experience for fans, and should (if anything) be rewarded rather than punished.
Anyone who's enjoyed this current round of casting news has Oliver to thank for a large part of it. Our support can help ensure it doesn't come back to hurt him.
paulgudeQuote Reply
agreed!
Phoenix_tornQuote Reply
Congrats to Jamie Sives! I've been following this guy for the show since I saw Valhalla Rising at the Toronto Film Festival. Never thought of him for Jory, but I like it!
Phoenix_tornQuote Reply
Correct. Jory's father, Martyn, was killed at the Tower of Joy. Ser Rodrik is his uncle, and Beth is Rodrik's only daughter.
AlexQuote Reply
Just wanted to say hello, I'm still reading ''Game of Thrones'' (the end is nearing), it's the best book…ever. And wic.net is my new favorite blog!
Keep up the good work and cheers from newly knighted Croatia fan!
m4st4Quote Reply
Given all of the changes and the aging of the children over the past months, I'm guessing they're probably going to re-shoot the whole thing.
Stella MarisQuote Reply
Either one would be great, but I'm definitely with you – firmly in the Tommy Flanagan camp. Make it happen, Nina!
Stella MarisQuote Reply
It's been mentioned before but "winter is coming" would have a more realistic effect on the viewers if we see it in autumn. Even though I'd much rather see it as soon as possible.
syleonQuote Reply
Oh…oh my. *swoon*
I do think I have been overcome by a case of the vapors. I think I need to sit down…
In other words, I think he'll make a fantastic Jory :)
Stella MarisQuote Reply
lol. I think he's very attractive too. Can't wait to see him "in action". ;)
Jardin17Quote Reply
Haha, I figured I'd been serious and analytical about plenty of choices, i could indulge in a little fan girll eeeeee-ing.
@KelseyCMSchmitzQuote Reply
*spoilers*
I think it was Ned's reaction that got me the most. Just total shock that Jaime would go so far, and devastation at the death of someone who was so loyal to him. Maybe that's what gets readers so much?
@KelseyCMSchmitzQuote Reply
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you are liking the books so far. Just a word of advice, be wary of browsing too many ASOIAF web sites as there are many things that you could spoil for yourself. These books are famous for their twists and turns and I would hate to see them spoiled for you.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Looks like a good pick.
Now if we can get Jonathan Rhys-Myers as Littlefinger and Ian McShane as Tywin, we're good to go.
shadallionQuote Reply
As a fan, of course I'm thrilled to hear casting news as soon as possible (The fact that I read this site several times per day is proof enough of that). However, if an actor is in the process of negotiating a contract, and the news is leaked that the actor has been cast, I imagine it hinders the negotiating position of HBO. As a fan, I want to see the best possible actors, with the least possible impact on the overall budget. Personally, I would rather wait the week or two until the contract is finalized.
Sam DeGreeQuote Reply
I think Ned was also upset because Jory was so young.
LexQuote Reply
Given JRM's on-off alcohol and very public anger outburst problems I doubt HBO would want to take a risk on him. Also, IHMO he is totally, totally wrong for the role. Too attractive, and honestly, not skilled enough as an actor to pull off the complexity of Littlefinger convincingly.
Ian McShane is a fabulous actor, but IMHO is physically wrong for the role of Tywin. However, I can see him as the Viper of Dorne, but he wouldn't be my first pick.
Stella MarisQuote Reply
I never indulge either … but I'll join you in this one….
"eeeeeee"
Whew. Got that out of my system.
@RahBurQuote Reply
Also JRM is to young for the aged up version of Littlefinger, and isnt Ian McShane and american?
syleonQuote Reply
Thanks Alex!
The_Rabbit01Quote Reply
I remember when i first started reading the series, guess who found out about
SPOILER! SPOILER!
SPOILER!
The red wedding. Yes I found out about that before I had read it… my reading was spoiled.
syleonQuote Reply
Ian McShane American? Where did you get that idea.
McShane should be the Old Bear rather than Tywin though.
MormegilQuote Reply
GRRM has publicly stated his very low opinion of JRM. While he’s downplayed his role in casting, I think he’d have enough influence to keep someone he actively dislikes from the project.
McShane is not an American.
paulgudeQuote Reply
I recognize that guy from Braveheart!
LexQuote Reply
Congrats, Jamie/Jory!
Are the casting flood gates about to open up?
LexQuote Reply
JRM was by far the weakest link in otherwise incredible series The Tudors. He's just not that good of an actor … Hell, even characters who appeared for one or two episodes outperformed him.
AlexQuote Reply
JRM was fantastic on "the Tudors." You do realize that he was portraying one of the great megalomaniacs of history, right? I thought he brought a frightening, ferocious intensity to the screen. I think he could channel a very cunning, smirky, manipulative Petyr Baelish.
For McShane, concerns for him not "looking the part" I discard out of hand. There is absolutely nothing about Tywin's physical appearance that is essential to the plot. They should go for a scene-seeing, villainous sort, and McShane has proved he can do that.
shadallionQuote Reply
Perhaps it's because I'm coming from an actor's perspective that the impact this might have on negotiations doesn't worry me as much. Will an actor's agent use, "Hey, look at the reaction on the message boards! They love this guy!" as a negotiating tool? Of course. Will they push it to the point where it would hurt the production? As much as we enjoy the art part of these shows, this is still a business. The agents want their actors to get the role. No casting, no money for the agent. Things may get a bit more attractive for the actor, but HBO isn't going to mess around if the demands become unreasonable.
paulgudeQuote Reply
It's because I had only seen him in deadwood, and never really looked him up. Though before I mention something I should do some research.
syleonQuote Reply
Haha, George would have a heart attach during his outburst of anger if JRM were cast…then we'd get no book ending…do you really want that Shadallion? REALLY???
:-P
@KelseyCMSchmitzQuote Reply
Agreed–I don't think the impact will be very significant. That being said, if the result of us having to wait an extra week to hear that Jory Cassel has been cast is that there is even a few grand extra to spend on something like the set of King's Landing, I say it is well worth it. It's a balance.
Sam DeGreeQuote Reply
The thing about JRM is he has two settings – on and off. He's either full-on whatever emotion he's doing, or he seems devoid of any emotion at all. He completely lacks subtlety in his acting – this is apparent in other roles he's played, not just Henry VIII. Subtlety is one thing that Littlefinger absolutely must have!
I would argue that Tywin's appearance *is* important to the plot because the coloring of the Lannisters is extremely important to one of the major plot lines. I realize that makeup can work wonders, but he is all-around the wrong coloring for a Lannister. They would have to do a lot of work on him to give him the fair-skinned, green-eyed, greying-blonde look of Tywin.
Also, I would argue that Tywin isn't necessarily a villain. He may be cold, rational, and calculating, but ultimately he does what he thinks is best for the realm as long as it doesn't harm his family. He has a very strong sense of morals. He is someone that most of the characters dislike, but also deeply respect. That doesn't scream "villain" to me.
Stella MarisQuote Reply
Seems like a lot of actors being shared between GoT and Doctor Who. This guy in DW’s Tooth and Claw, Iain Glen/Ser Mormont in Time of Angels/Flesh & Stone, Ian McNiece/Illyrio in Victory of the Daleks, Viserys in Human Nature/Family of Blood.
mcguffin1899Quote Reply
Ron Donachie was also in Tooth and Claw along with his "nephew".
MormegilQuote Reply
Mine too, but I think it was better that way…
SPOILER!!!!!
SPOILER!!!!!
I was prepared to lose Robb and Catelyn in a violent and terrible way. I cried anyways.
SPOILER!!!!!
SPOILER!!!!!
Anna BackstromQuote Reply
Well they are certainly trickling quite steadily already!
I have a feeling HBO has at least one exciting casting announcement up its sleeve. I just have a feeling that they are going for at least one more "marquee" actor – given GRRM's comments about negotiations and some announcements being made directly on HBO.com.
Plus, there are still quite a few exciting roles to be cast(Varys, LF, Mormont, Maester Aemon, Tywin…) and even more roles on the level of Jory yet to be announced. Given shooting starts in just about 2 weeks, it seems like the next couple weeks should be pretty busy for us :)
ChrisQuote Reply
Hehe…Yes…:) I already spoiled
SPOILER!!!!!
SPOILER!!!!!
SPOILER!!!!!
SPOILER!!!!!
…Ned Stark will die in a violent way. He didn't…yet. But I'm very much scared for his life. I know it sounds funny, most of you pretty much knows everything (read: A Feast for Crows is a big, LONG cliffhanger ;)…but every character peace is so richly textured, so important…I have a feeling I could talk for days about every single chess piece moving…Cause: it really is like a chess, you can see the figures moving.
AMAZING.
m4st4Quote Reply
That's right. I guess there's just so many actors to go around in Great Britain that fit both in fantasy and sci-fi well.
Maybe we can get Freema Agymen to play one of the Summer Isle girls. Wishful thinking. Or Julian Bleach (sp?) to play Davos, that way he can be both Davos and Davros.
mcguffin1899Quote Reply
Oh yeah, I know about Jory :)))
m4st4Quote Reply
I dunno…marrying Cersei to Robert was for the good of Tywin's power grab…not the realm…haha.
@KelseyCMSchmitzQuote Reply
Another one is Finn Jones (Loras) who is in an upcoming episode of DW spin off The Sarah Jane Adventures.
As to other possible appearances, I've always thought Catherine Tate would make a good Lysa Arryn.
MormegilQuote Reply
Exactly.
For reference:
http://grrm.livejournal.com/153015.html
paulgudeQuote Reply
@m4st4 – ST is for Split? or?
Btw, dobro došao!
The_Rabbit01Quote Reply
McShane for Mormont? :P
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
The word is that an extra big flood wave is coming next week (this weekend should have been quiet, but Jory leaked (trickled?) out :)
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
I liken the casting of Jamie Sives to the casting of Joseph Mawle; both are up-and-coming actors with incredible upside and critical acclaim, and both are cast in Game of Thrones in seemingly small roles. I can't say Jory is anything other than a supporting character, just like Benjen, and it would seem to me these actors are accepting smaller roles for the opportunity an HBO production presents down the road.
SPOILERS:
Or, their roles are being expanded. It's possible we see a lot more of Jory than we saw in the book, especially since it will make Jory's death a bigger blow. And who knows if Bejen is really Coldhands? I always thought there was a large chunk of his story that was never (or has yet to be) explained … for instance why Benjen felt compelled to go join the Night's Watch in the first place!
END SPOILERS.
Also, it could be Sives and Mawle specifically chose smaller roles; since they are somewhat in demand it's good for them that they are only working for a limited time, freeing them up for other work.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
Call me crazy, but I always thought in the case of a complete re-write that it should be Will's head on the chopping block instead of Gared's. It makes more sense; he's quicker, more likely to get away … and would be a bundle of terrified nerves on the ol' chopping block. More entertaining than old Gared, at any rate.
Maybe that's why we saw Waymar and Gared fighting back-to-back, and nary a sign o' Will.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
Ha! Your idea was what I was referring to with "it has implications to scenes outside of the prologue."
I was just trying to avoid spoilers. ;)
I'm saying that maybe that's exactly what they did and they decided to switch it back.
paulgudeQuote Reply
The easiest way to expand Jory's role would be shooting the scene where he helps Arya drive off Nymeria, and giving them both lines. It's something that the audience needs to see happen, and Arya can use more early screen time too. It also gives Jory someone to talk to aside from Ned.
There could also be a scene, probably brief, with Jory, Ser Rodrik, and Beth, sometime at Winterfell before Jory departs, to establish them as a family and perhaps to clear up the possibly unexpected nature of their family relationships.
Supposedly Jory was not included in the original shoot of the pilot. Hopefully he will appear, with lines, in the reshoot for the first episode.
Maester_TcostQuote Reply