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Lena Headey talks Thrones

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Lena HeadeyLena Headey has been the more silent of the two Lannister twins, with Nikolaj Coster-Waldau talking about Game of Thrones on a couple of occasions. But recently an Imagine Me & You fan site had the opportunity to do a Q&A with Lena and she answered a few Thrones questions. Below are the Thrones questions, be sure to hit up the whole interview to hear her thoughts on motherhood and obsessive fans.

How is life over in the UK? Are you ready to go back to work on “Game of Thrones”?
Life back in the uk is er …. ok, but i love Los Angeles dammit, there i said it… though its good to be near great friends. I am excited and nervous about going back to work, very ready and not ready one bit.

Have you read the novels that the series is based on and what drew you to the role of “Cersei”?
No and she’s a curious woman, a hard shell but inside i believe there is deep paranoia and a growing madness.

You are working once again with Peter Dinklage on GoT.  What memories do you have of working with him on “Ultra”?
We giggled ALOT, mostly at a cat driving a car, i’ll let him explain that one. i am very happy to be working with him again, he is playing a great character and i hope we get some story lines together.

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Is there anything you can relate to with the character you play in the Games of Thrones?
God no… apart from being a mum now, i am excited about bringing a whole new experience to my work.

Aside from Games of Thrones, are they any other projects that we can look forward to?
i haven’t worked in so long. i seemed to be offered alot of work when i was pregnant.. obviously i was unable to do any of it.

Describe your character in “Game of Thrones” in 5 words or less.
smart , insecure, ferociously maternal, cutthroat, paranoid.

Would love to know how you are approaching the role of Cersei for Game of Thrones seeing as it’s pretty much the first time you’ve been cast in a “villainous” role. Are you looking forward to playing someone the audience will hopefully love to hate?
I am so looking forward to be a villain for once … i am usually cast as the good moral person.. i shall indulge my imagination in this role.. and just about resist the urge to be ULTRA villainous.

What kind of reseach did you do for your role in Game of Thrones? Have you met George R. R. Martin to discuss your interpretation of the role of Cersei?
I met George though we didn’t discuss,he was enjoying a lovely pint or two in scotland with the rest of the cast, i was pregnant….  i think he trusts us to do him proud.

Winter Is Coming: Well despite not reading the books, I would say her description of Cersei is spot-on. I have faith that Lena is going to do a fantastic job as Cersei. I can’t wait to see her, especially in her scenes with Peter Dinklage. And Nikolaj. Hell, the whole Lannister clan is going to be great.

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249 Comments

  1. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Yeah she seems to have a very firm grasp of the character.

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  2. PKV
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    She's going to be awesome.
    OT: I've never understood how people can "love to hate" certain characters. The only characters I hate are bad presented characters, not "evil" characters. Anyroad, love her.

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  3. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    It's a great listening to mix of someone with a firm grasp on their character and someone who has no idea where the story is headed, like this thing about Dinklage:

    "I am very happy to be working with him again, he is playing a great character and i hope we get some story lines together."

    She's going to be very very happy.

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  4. KarenM
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:49 am | Permalink

    With this kind of material and actors I'm thinking Emmy nominations for Headey, Dinklage and Bean next year.

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  5. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:52 am | Permalink

    I giggled a little when I read that thinking she has no Idea the amount of scenes she has with Dinklage.

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  6. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted July 10, 2010 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    how on earth would you NOT read the books? i really don't undertand that. i understand if you are remaking a movie or tv show, not watching the old materiel so as not to be biased or influenced. but not reading the books in a show where the books are basically a giant back story/biography/depth/detail for each character smacks of irresponsibility.

    but lena is still really really hot. i will be sad to see her as a blonde tho. she is so gorgeous ravenhaired/brunette.

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  7. furrever
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 2:12 am | Permalink

    I had the same thought. Makes me wonder if she's read anything besides the pilot script.

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  8. alan777
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    See this dope wall paper of Cersei Lannister by the russians site 7.kingdoms.ru.
    http://7kingdoms.ru/wp-content/gallery/wallpaper/

    SUPER AWSOME!!!!!! O.O

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  9. alan777
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    I also agree that she has a great grasp on the core character traits that driver Cersei Lannister. My bet is laster on the in the series Cersei descends into madness.

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  10. paulgude
    Posted July 10, 2010 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    Plus how awesome they are. Tywin scenes are powerful, too. This is going to be great stuff.

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  11. Amarok
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 2:58 am | Permalink

    smart , insecure, ferociously maternal, cutthroat, paranoid.

    6 words. :(

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  12. syleon
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    That's kick ass!

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  13. Posted July 10, 2010 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Haha, yeah. I noticed that as well. She may have a good grasp on her character, but that whole counting thing is still eluding her! ;)

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  14. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:22 am | Permalink

    Wow, and the news keeps coming. Now if someone can pin down Bean and Dinklage for some thoughts about the series.
    I feel that next week is going to be another busy one. Good news for us.

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  15. syleon
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:30 am | Permalink

    for arguements sake you could add a hyphen making it "ferociously maternal".

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  16. syleon
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    wow I didn't add the hyphen… "ferociously-maternal"*

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  17. Lugez
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 4:21 am | Permalink

    I don't think "smart" is a good word to describe Cersei. Maybe replace that with impulsive?

    Besides that, I think she has a fairly good grasp on the character…I hope she gets around to reading the book though to get a better idea.

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  18. Posted July 11, 2010 at 4:25 am | Permalink

    I would say "hate" is perhaps not the best word but it's just an expression after all. The way I look at such characters is that they are characters that you like following and like seeing but you want things to go wrong for them, like failing with their evil plot but you can't wait to see what other evil plot they will hopefully fail at next.

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  19. Posted July 11, 2010 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    I'm guessing her impression of Tyrion is mainly from the pilot script and seeing her describe him as a great character based on that makes me even more excited about seeing what Dinklage will do with the role. I think he will be a clear standout in the show.

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  20. Posted July 11, 2010 at 4:38 am | Permalink

    I'm liking that every day or two, we get something new to hash over. I like this pace!

    I enjoyed Lena's interpretation of Cersei (paranoid! hehe) She and Peter are going to ROCK. I love reading those little exchanges. Its sooo cool to be able to see it on a screen someday soon!!!

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  21. Luke
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    She hasn’t read the books?!? “cry”

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  22. Posted July 11, 2010 at 4:50 am | Permalink

    I'm all for actors reading the books *if they want to* and I think I definitely would for a project like this. Still, the writers will do their job with creating the adaptation and she'll do hers with the interpretation of the character from the script and the Cersei we see on screen will be just fine. It's a nice tool to have, but not a requirement for success.

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  23. Gurgi
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:12 am | Permalink

    I hope that in the 3rd and 4th season when her character begins to gain weight that she will actually gain some weight. If I had to guess I would think she wont want to do it.

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  24. Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:33 am | Permalink

    I think she is intelligent, but I think her other problems get in the way of her being able to truly excel. She lets other concerns drive her too much, rather than staying rational – but asking a crazy person to stay rational is, well, impossible.

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  25. Kanga
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    I must say, I'm quite looking forward to seeing Lena's portrayal of Cersei. Being unfamiliar with her as an actress, I decided to check out some of her previous roles and the first thing that struck me was (at least from what I could see) her obvious warmth. Which as we all know is not exactly Cersei's strong point ;) After seeing that, and reading her comments on looking forward to playing a villain for once, I'm deeply curious how Cersei will turn out onscreen. And, after leafing through some of her jucier scenes in the books, undeniably excited :]

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  26. PersonalJustice
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    The way I would put it is that regardless of how intelligent she may be, she believes herself to be more so.

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  27. Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:24 am | Permalink

    Hmmm…I usually love the stuff they do, but this misses the mark by half. Cersei, as far as I know, never entered a convent.

    This is the Cersei I know: http://7kingdoms.ru/wp-content/gallery/casting/hb

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  28. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    That's what I thought too, when I read it. Tyrion and Cersei have a powerful and twisted relationship. I can't wait for Season 2!!!

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  29. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    It takes a while before we see the limits of Cersei's intelligence. Book 2, and especially Book 4, show how short-sighted she is.

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  30. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Short-sighted and impulsive.

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  31. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    I don't expect any of the actors to read the books. If they do, awesome! If they become fans, even better! But I don't expect it from any of them.

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  32. Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    I just love Sunday s morning with coffee and fresh GOT news.
    Thank you WiC, once again.

    Finally, we got some word from Lena Headey on the subject.

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  33. alan777
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:34 am | Permalink

    I have seen that one. The hair is terrible, the lightening is horrible, the coloring looks fake, and the Photoshop work is atrocious in general.

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  34. Alex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    Correct me if I'm wrong, the original is the poster with princess Margaret from The Tudors.
    Horrible Photoshop work indeed.

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  35. Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    All the Lanister clan scenes are awesome, IMO.

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  36. Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Definitely sounds like she understands the character, even without reading the books; I wonder if Bean and the other main cast members have read the books?

    I can't wait. Cersei is kind of in the back ground throughout most of GoT, although towards the end she has some major scenes ("when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die; there is no middle ground." That's going to be intense.

    The second book is where Cersei really takes over, as does Tyrion. Oh god please give me three seasons at the least.

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  37. Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    No doubt she nailed the character of Cersei, but it strike me as weird that she didn't read the books. I'm not an actor and I don't know what is the process but I would expect that an actor would want to know as much as possible about his character and the project.
    I guess there is no need for some of the supporting cast to read the books but the lead actors should at least read the first book IMO.

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  38. Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    I second that. Another nice morning read :) No slow weekend, this one.

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  39. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    I'd be suprised if more than a few of the lead actors have read the books.

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  40. Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    She gains weight in the 3rd and 4th books?

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  41. alan777
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    What are you talking about? That picture is Lean Headey as Cersei Lannister.

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  42. Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    I don't know about that, most of the ones that interviewed said they are fans or at least reading them.
    besides, if you were going to work on a project for a few years wouldn't you want to know what it's all about?

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  43. Alex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    http://madameguillotine.files.wordpress.com/2009/

    This is what I'm talking about. Lena Heady's face copy-pasted on this poster.

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  44. mummer
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    At the time she was cast for the pilot, there was no guarantee that the rest of the book would ever be filmed, so reading the whole thing might've been too much of a tease. And after HBO finally picked up the series, I'd imagine Headey has had her hands full with childbirth and parenthood; based on the recent experience of some of my friends with new babies, reading an 800-page novel is just not likely to happen right now.

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  45. mummer
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    I'd say it's a very well drawn portrait of someone who had all kinds of potential, with no outlet for it, and who grew up in an environment where trust and love were in short supply. When you're not allowed to do anything and you can't speak your mind, then everything you know about your own strengths and limitations is theoretical; and if there's suddenly an opportunity to exert your own will and grab for some advantage, it's going to be awfully hard not to be impulsive, because you might never get the chance again. And then if you screw up, you don't dare admit it.

    Not to mention that she's spent way too much time around Robert and his counsellors, which would make anyone halfway clever feel like a genius.

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  46. Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    She might find the book to be a nice read in between the filming of her scenes. When you're an actor, theres a lot of waiting involved.

    I don't really care, though. It's always cool to see the actors and others involved becoming readers, but… yeah. Just not a big deal.

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  47. Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Well, when you've been around the block like Lena has you might not get as immersed right away as some of the other actors for which this is a great opportunity. Also they haven't even started yet and she's been busy with being a mother so we can't really blame her for that. Also actors often have their own process of approaching a role and it might also be strategy not to get their interpretations of the material too tainted in order to give it some of their own spin on it.

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  48. Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Littlefinger assesses her in Book 4 as being intelligent and dangerous (which is a compliment coming from him), but also short-sighted and far too arrogant and secure in her family's power. There's also the amusing bit about him expecting her to take five years to destroy the realm but doing it in months instead (GRRM's in-joke about abolishing the five-year gap).

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  49. Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    In acting there is a description called, "Playing the process, not the result." That is, because the characters, obviously lacking clairvoyant powers, don't know what's going to happen to them next, the actor shouldn't either, and can play the surprise factor better. Some actors pointblank refuse to read the books if the script is based on them for this reason.

    The flipside of that argument is that later events in the books can reveal information that the characters have known all along which would help their performance. For example, if Lena knows about the prophecy thing from Book 4 (although frankly I'm hoping they cut that out, it's an unnecessary extra motivation for Cersei to have to hate Tyrion) that might play into her scenes with Tyrion in Seasons 2-3 and make them stronger. Of course, stuff like that might have been included in a detailed breakdown of the character for the actors anyway.

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  50. Dennai
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    I love Sunday morning with coffee, fresh GOT news AND Spain about to play a World Cup Football final!

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  51. Dennai
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I suspect Cercei didn't know about the prophecy in the first books because probably GRRM didn't know about the prophecy when he starting writing the books either. I love prophecies and foretelling in the fantasy genre, but that one always sounded to me like a last minute afterthough of the author to give more meat to Cercei's chapters.

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  52. JackSparrow
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Only if we get a second season; I think Tyrion and Cersei's only scenes together in the first book are at Winterfell.

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  53. Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    According to this logic actors must never read their full script and only read their next lines in order to be constantly surprised. it doesn't make sense, an actor should be able to play well even if he knows what happens to his character.

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  54. Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Yeah, it could be she's not enthusiastic about it as some of the other fresh actors.

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  55. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    I've seen several of Lena's movies and I would say that, while I didn't see her portray an 'evil' character before, I think she has the ability of projecting darkness on screen. See Aberdeen, where her character is rather rough and in parts unlikeable (though overall sympathetic), or in The Broken, particularly the last minutes where the character is as evil as one can get (def more evil than Cersei!); even in 300 the Queen has this almost inhuman steeliness and frankly there were times in Sarah Connor where the character got rather dark and unlikeable, which I thought was great. Based on this I feel Lena's portrayal of Cersei will be brilliant and fascinating, and I expect that Cersei would come out dark but also as nuanced and complex. She might even come out more complex than in the books, because she will also be more 'fleshed out'. I definitely look forward to Lena's interpretation of her.

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  56. Adam
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Maybe I have a warped view because I love to read anyway but I amazed that someone would get a job playing a character from such a beloved series of books on freakin' HBO and not bother themselves with reading a book. It seems to me that ingesting any and all information on your character would be pretty important when trying to act like them.

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  57. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Well, she'll have directors telling her what to do anyway, and as Adam Whitehead mentioned, it might even be intentional.

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  58. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    I agree with this comment! I'd also add that the limitations Cersei had to face have also always been clashing with the fact that she's always been told that, being a Lannister, she was entitled to be – and have – the best of everything. Like, dad promised her Rhaegar… and al she got was Robert. Many characters in ASoIaF have this "great expectations vs. harsh reality" theme going on – she's an example of how this disconnect between what you want and what you get can affect your personality.

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  59. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    yeah, when it is implied that she develops a drinking problem, iirc there are some lines about some of her clothes not fitting so well anymore. Though honestly I think it's the kind of weight gain that can easily be achieved with make up, it's not like she suddenly turns obese.

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  60. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Honestly? She would have made a *perfect* Catelyn – I wonder if her comment about always being cast as the "good, moral person" implies that she had been contacted for the Cat role first. But I think she can pull off Cersei just fine :)

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  61. Mormegil
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    There is a theory that the weight gain is down to her being pregnant though I don't believe it.

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  62. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    FWIW, I know Christopher Nolan advised his actors *against* reading the novel for "The Prestige" and stick to the screenplay (but Bale read the book anyway), and it's not the first time I hear about this kind of direction. Of course in the case of The Prestige the adaptation was more of an elaboration of the source material, while I expect GoT to follow the books in more of a literal way – just wanted to point out that it's often just a matter of working method.

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  63. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    I will be a bit polemical about this, as I've seen time and again on this site (which I enjoy very much btw) comments on how the series *must* follow the books, not stray from them, actors should follow the book ad literam etc. I am a book lover myself, and I can understand the argument why some books should *not* be made into movies, but I am a bit iffy when I hear that a movie adaptation should follow books completely and slavishly. Movies are a different medium than books, and translating word to image does not work straightforwardly. Nor shouldn't it, because if it were so, why bother making the movie?! The movie will always be different than the book, if only because it is an enactment of a director and cast's imagination, and not that of the individual reader or even the writer. In this sense, I understand how reading a book might end up stifling an actor's imagination – a movie has to 'play around' with the book, not follow it slavishly. You don't want the visual medium to become imprisoned in the word medium, even if the former uses the latter as a guidance. And I say this while wanting to be a writer myself. I'm wary about putting caps on one's imagination and creativity.

    As regards GOT, I will probably be even more unpopular when I say that the series should be ready to change from the book as the series goes on (not completely of course or it will lose the narrative thread). A TV series must establish a relationship with the watchers, not the readers (who will be less in numbers, hopefully!), and should be able to respond to their needs. Straightjacketing the series could be a recipe for failure if the series becomes unresponsive and inflexible to the needs of the audience. Off my soapbox now.

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  64. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Elijah Woods never read LOTR before filming all three of those movies. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

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  65. Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Some do only read their next lines, actually

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  66. Posted July 11, 2010 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    I love reading the character analyses on Winter is Coming. You guys rock.

    However wicked Cersei is, GRRM is still able to convey her vulnerability to the reader and garner empathy for her. I hope Lena and the script bring that across. Actually, I think that's critical to the success of the project. One-dimensional villains are so uninspiring.

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  67. Posted July 11, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    We haven't got any indications that the first season will deviate from the book so I don't see why would reading the book be harmful, then again I'm not an actor and apparently some of them don't even read the full script so maybe that the right way to go.

    I have mixed feelings about GOT deviating from the books, as much as I would enjoy watching something new, I worry it will effect the future books in some unforeseen way.

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  68. Myril
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    I believe every actor has their own way of preparing for a role. Some read the book their characters are based on, and some don't. I know that Sean Bean has played quite a few roles based on literary characters and in some cases he has mentioned in interviews reading the book prior or during filming. I don't know in this case, but hopefully someone will ask him as he's been doing PR for a number of other projects of his recently.

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  69. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    To provide another example, Michael Gambon never read any of the Harry Potter novels.

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  70. Brude
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    This is a great description, mummer. I've also always seen her as a foil for Dany, as is Catelyn. Catelyn and Cersei are women who, because of the circumstances of women in that society, are unable to properly wield power when they suddenly have it. Dany, though much younger, is unfettered and probably also preternaturally brilliant at this sort of thing. But she did not grow up in an environment where she was stifled by convention and society, so when she suddenly has power, she wields it perfectly and brilliantly. She's kind of the apotheosis of what Catelyn and Cersei could have been had their life taken another course or had society not stifled their development.

    It will be interesting to see what happens to Sansa in this regard. She's being groomed in a very different way than was Catelyn or Cersei. She too may not suffer the same sort of issues that they both have because of it.

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  71. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Not all actors read the source material things they perform in. Some don't like it and think it negatively affects what they do. They prefer to work strictly from the script, which I think gives them more leeway for interpretation of the role.

    I can't say what her reasons are, but it's not at all unheard of. My favorite story about this sort of thing is Julianne Moore, who doesn't even read the full scripts of the movies she in, just her own lines. She has said in interviews that she sometimes doesn't even know what the movie is about until she's at the premier and it's often very surprising to her. For her, the process is all about creating that one believable character.

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  72. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    She's fantastic in Aberdeen.

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  73. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    She was a lot of peoples' choice for Catelyn when they were throwing out casting suggestions for the Producers over at westeros.org.

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  74. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Based on some of the changes in the pilot script, it seems that they are expanding the roles of Jaime and Cersei for the first season. Each had one or more additional scenes, and significant extra dialogue added in the banquet scene. Assuming that trend holds for the whole season, we'll see a lot more of both of them in Season 1 than we as readers saw of them in Book 1.

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  75. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Yep, that's why I thought her remark about being typecast as "the good one" sounded suspicious :)

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  76. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    I just found out that my statement above is regarded to be false… Well, whatever. Mrs Headey will be a great Cercei, whether she reads the novels or not.

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  77. Jenny
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Well, all those people who worry about her not having read the book: acting is that woman's profession… this role is an everyday job to her.
    Why should she feel prided to have it or obbliged to tear herself open for it?
    She's no hairdresser who's decided, all of a sudden, to be an actress.
    She has a long career and experience.
    She was cast for it because some other people believe her acting skills are suitable to play a role.
    She does not have to know that character, not even care about the character, she doesn't have to like it nor dislike it and she doesn not have to think about apart from the time she actually interprets it. All that matters is the result.
    As someone mentioned before, there are directors who tell her what to do "Let's try it a bit more subtle/bitchy/two-faced" – her job is to turn it spot on, when asked to do it. That's the job.

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  78. Steve
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Alan, he wasn't talking about the one you posted. He was referring to the one that Josh Parker posted.

    The Russian one you posted is indeed kick ass.

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  79. karenb
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Just occurred to me I don't know how to pronounce "Cersei". I always say Sir-say in my head – is this right?!

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  80. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    The pilot script deviated in some ways from the book, already. The characters of Cersei and Jaime are larger than in the book and both already have extra scenes added.

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  81. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    He was very embarrassed about that. He had tried to, but I get the feeling he's not much of a reader and never finished them. I think he said he got maybe 1/2 way through.

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  82. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    I think thats how GRRM says it, so yeah. I say Kir-say, though. Just comes more natural to me.

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  83. Nymeria
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Nice Sunday morning read. Thanks WiC!

    I too get the feeling that she isn't that psyched about GoT, which at first is a bit disappointing.

    However, I can undertand where it comes from.

    She shot the pilot 9 months ago, in which she had but a few lines. She didn't have time to get that immersed in it. And at the time, she was pregnant. With her first baby. Believe me, pregnancy is a huge life-changing experience. It is intense. Every week or every few days your body shows new changes, and you get new feelings and all. Plus, you have to prepare the house and prepare yourself for your new role as a parent. Then comes the delivery, in itself a very intense experience, then the first days of awe and hormone highs and lows, and the sleepless days, which all feel like a LONG never ending day. Then come weeks and months suffering from the lack of sleep and learning to be a mom and trying to interpret the baby's aches and needs.

    So compared to that, The pilot she shot for GoT what must seem like so long ago and must not have struck her that much as a new exciting experience.

    In her interview, I see a new mother trying to clear her head of daily mothering concerns and present herself as still being the professional she was and eager to go back to work, but she still shows a detachment, which I totally understand. She must be totally immersed in her new mother duties, joys and issues.

    And a new mother barely has time for herself, much less to read enormous books.

    Now, what someone should do, is send her the audio books. I'm sure she would appreciate a bit of entertainment while she feeds the baby, rocks the baby, confort the baby, etc. etc.

    That said, I believe she will be properly directed and informed by knowing people once she has to incarnate Cersei, so her not reading the book is probably not an issue.

    I can't wait to see how it will turn out!

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  84. George
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    I doubt Bean will get one. Ned's a pretty bread-and-butter role for him. Although sometimes they give nominations as a sort of career recognition. Either way, I won't complain.

    I think Headey, Dinklage, Harry Lloyd, and Fairley (in later seasons, not so much the first) are going to be awards bait, though.

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  85. George
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    If you read her chapters in AFFC, it's clearly already happening.

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  86. Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Here's GRRM's take from one of responses to a fan about staying true to the books:
    http://grrm.livejournal.com/151109.html?thread=98

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    grrm wrote:
    May. 2nd, 2010 06:58 pm (UTC)
    I really don't think the "almost unrecognizable plot" thing is anything you need fear on this project.

    The first season, at least, will hew quite close to the books, from what I have seen.

    Admittedly, it will grow harder to remain faithful in later seasons, if the series is renewed. As the books progress and the original characters scatter, more and more secondary and tertiary characters become involved, more and more settings are seen, and the "butterfly effect" comes into play… whereas what seems like a small and innocous change in season one or two turns out to have major consequences in season five, when the minor character who was changed/ cut in season one is supposed to push to the fore and play a significant role.

    No one is saying it will be easy. But the intent is there.

    But hey, David and Dan knew the job was dangerous when they took it.
    ——————————————————-

    I think they can keep the "butterfly effect" under control by taking care to not actively negate events in the books, but being selective with what they show. I've often made reference to historical fiction when talking about this. If you take the events of Westeros as having happened, and the novels as reports of those actions, you're given a structure from which you can pick and choose events to construct your episodes. If you start altering any events, the structure will become twisted and problematic.

    Like you said, the needs of a TV series are much different from the books. Each episode is going to be structured to continue the story, but also to have an arc of its own. I'm guessing this means that the events portrayed are going to be chosen to facilitate this need. Because of the episodic structure, we may skip over a few events from one week to the next, opening on a scene where people are dealing with some crisis that is spelled out in the books, but for the series has happened off-screen.

    If the leaked pilot script is any indication, each episode will be a mix of things we've already read about and new scenes now available since the POV structure is gone. I'm guessing that besides bringing the events of the book to life, some care will be taken to introduce things that support the story for the general audience but offer readers of the book something new as well.

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  87. George
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    It's odd to say someone isn't truly "able to excel" when she engineered herself to be ruler of the Seven Kingdoms. Cersei is definitely clever and cunning, she just also shortsighted and deluded.

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  88. Zack
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    It's a common American phrase. Are you not a native speaker? It's easy enough to understand.

    It means you enjoy hating the character for the trouble they cause the heroes. Obviously if it's a badly presented character, there's no enjoyment, is there?

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  89. George
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I think that's right. I think if you go to the Citadel section of Westeros.org you can find out all of that stuff.

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  90. Posted July 11, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Exactly!

    Everyone has their own way of working. I like getting as much information as I can and try to memorize my lines as quickly as possible and then sort of work backwards to a place where the words I'm supposed to say kind of "pop" into my head as they would in a normal conversation. I know other actors who carry their scripts with them and make all sorts of notes in the middle of rehearsals, or create elaborate histories for their characters independent of anything said or implied by the writer or director, etc.

    So, assigning homework to an actor, saying they must read an 800+ page book if they aren't an avid reader (and some definitely aren't) could stand in the way of what they normally do. Of course, actors are used to dealing with requests outside of their preferred system, but it's a balancing act.

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  91. furrever
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Well said. As a father of two–I can say that this has been the experience of my wife and I. Parenthood is an awesome responsibility, to which everything else takes a backseat–especially at the start. Regardless of if/when Lena reads the books, I'm certain she has the talent to portray an excellent Cersei.

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  92. ablaaa
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    lol @ Lena using internet lingo on several occasions when answering the questions. :D
    I also appreciate that she is honest and straightforward in her responses.

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  93. FeatherySquid
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    She hasn’t read any of the books? Isn’t anyone else disturbed by this? Her description of Cersei isn’t any more than what you could pick up from a description of the role for casting purposes.
    I think my faith in the series just got shaken.

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  94. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    This attitude is ridiculous. If you honestly expect that most actors always read the books their show is based on, you are in for a rude awakening.

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  95. FeatherySquid
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, but Harry Potter sucks, who would read them?

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  96. FeatherySquid
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    Totally agree.

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  97. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    I'm really surprised and disappointed to see so many people saying "What? She hasn't read the books?!? OMG!". Her job is not to read the books, nor to become a fan of the series. Her job, as an actor, is to read the scripts and follow the director's guidance. THAT'S ALL.

    Sure, it would be great if the entire cast read all the books and became super ASOIAF fans like us… bad that's NOT going to happen.

    So far, we know that a few of the cast have read them, which is great, but I'd be pretty surprised if Sean Bean has read them, or Peter Dinklage.

    The cast members have no obligation to read the books. When you get hired for an acting job, your contract doesn't say "You are also required to read a 4,000 page fantasy series that this script is based on, for deeper understanding of your character". That's ridiculous.

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  98. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Exactly. I'm shocked at how unrealistic some people's expectations are here. It's laughable to me, to imagine believing all the lead actors are actually going to read the books! So unrealistic.

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  99. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, GRRM says SIR-say

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  100. Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Ha ha ha!
    Ideal morning for you!

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  101. Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    See, I don't care that much about realism, or if it's obvious where they got the original image. I care far more that it look like the characters. The pic alan777 posted doesn't look like Cersei.

    Here's another from 7kingdoms.ru, an earlier one created just after she was announced in the role. Perhaps it will meet with more approval? http://7kingdoms.ru/wp-content/gallery/casting/se

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  102. flipswich
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    I certainly do not expect actors to read the books their parts are based on. They have a script. And based on this woman's interpretation of the script, she is right on. It is so odd to me that people have become so opinionated on the casting of the series. If GRRM is good with the cast – then the cast is good. It is his mind that birthed these scenes, stories, and characters. I found it so laughable when so many people seemed to be opposed to the actress originally cast as Dany based on her appearance. Camera's are magical things and actors know how to use them. Let's all just sit back and enjoy. Shall we?

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  103. Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    This one's a bit cartoony, but it's still a good representation of what she might actually look like: http://www.wheeloftime.ru/forum/index.php?action=

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  104. Posted July 11, 2010 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Exactly. If someone were to say that no one involved in the scripting process had read the books, we'd have cause to be worried. The actors won't need to have read the series to do their jobs with what's handed to them on the page.

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  105. Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Which is hilarious to me because, in many ways as I was reading the series for the first time, I grew to hate Catelyn more than I hated Cersei.

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  106. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Exactly. D&D are the ones who need to have read the books, so they can write the scripts. Expecting every actor involved to become as obsessed with the series as we are is just completely unrealistic.

    I think, as we move closer to production, that we're going to start seeing more tensions between the "purists" and non-purists (as happened with LOTR when those films came out), as well as more complaining over all the countless little changes and details that aren't exactly how some readers want them to be.

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  107. Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Rereading ASoS the sheer amount and level of loathing of Tyrion by Cersei does seem to foreshadow the Maggy the Frog revelation, at least somewhat. However, Tyrion's promise to take from Cersei all she holds dear followed by subsequent events with Joffrey and Tywin seem to more than rationalise Cersei's hatred of him in the third and fourth books even without that element.

    I think GRRM definitely didn't have that plot thread in mind when writing ACoK, as Cersei's initially quasi-cordial attitude to Tyrion (even picking him up and dancing with him when she hears Stannis and Renly are fighting one another) doesn't track with this dark prophecy that she's live with for decades.

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  108. Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    As said, some actors do exactly that. Others only read only their lines and their cues and nothing else in the script so they can still be surprised by the full movie or TV episode.

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  109. Kanga
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    I agree with you completely. While Cersei was never endearing per se, of the two of them Catelyn was the one who I tended to find irritating. I quite enjoy Cersei's chapters, especially in AFFC. They've got a mesmerizing trainwreck quality about them.

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  110. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Actually, I have a suspicion you are right. They probably asked her to play Catelyn and she went: 'Not another stoic mother / wife role! But wait – there is this interesting Cersei person that would make a nice change…'

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  111. Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, those three people complaining about lack of book reading are a significant percentage of the over one hundred replies to this blog post. Definitely enough to warrant a backlash to the backlash reply.

    Or not.

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  112. Shiva
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Wow, I'm realising from some of these comments that I really wouldn't make a very good actor. Cos I'd be madly curious to read a book for additional help with my character. I'd be eating that shit up! I'd be scouring every note from every source I could find. Such would be my nervousness at such a big job.

    Actors are very different people indeed if they can decide it's best not to read the books. With Headley, she's a new mom – they don't even have time to go to the bathroom let alone read books. It's possible she intends to, when she gets to draw breath.

    But when people are saying that the others – Bean,Dinklage etc – may very well not have either…….that never even occurred to me!

    The idea of intentionally not reading the best source material for the character you have…..I'll admit it's beyond my grasp entirely.

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  113. Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    See, now they're just trolling you. Don't feed the trolls.

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  114. Kanga
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    I'll definitely check out Aberdeen sometime; first on my list is The Station Agent, and some great Peter Dinklage :]
    I see what you mean about the ability for darkness, I picked that up as well. I got the impression that she had the ability and that it just wasn't being exercised in those particular roles. And I'm pretty sure GRRM mentioned that her range was one of the things that impressed them the most. I'm sure she'll make a fascinating Cersei.

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  115. Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Catelyn was cast well before Cersei. A few months before, if memory serves. So if they did offer her the part of Cat and she turned it down, it sure took them quite a while to get back to her with the offer for Cersei.

    It's still possible, of course. But it would seem likelier that if she was up for Cat and she turned it down, they would have announced her casting as Cersei fairly soon after announcing the Catelyn casting, if not before.

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  116. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    I'm honestly baffled that people have just assumed all along that every lead actor would be reading the books. Did you SERIOUSLY believe that?

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  117. Critical_Geek
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    It's actually important to avoid reading source materiel when adaptation is necessary. It's only use is when the director doesn't have an idea for you.

    The more important a character you play, the less important it is to have an idea about your character compared to being able to read your director and give the performance (s)he's looking for. This is directly related to the amount of attention the director has for your character, which is why background info is more important for smaller roles, where the less the director has to spend time with you, the more attention he can spend with his more important characters getting exactly what he's looking for.

    Not knowing exactly what's going to happen in the future for a character can be important to get authentic reactions based on current events.

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  118. Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    I'm actually really interested to see where the line of division between purist and non-purist will occur, because I've been called both.

    The "purist" tag is thrown out a lot if you happen to disagree that HBO will "have to" cut or alter something in a certain way just because someone else decides it's "the only way" it will work. I'm a "non-purist" whenever I say to people who disagree with a decision by HBO that they'll have to deal with it.

    I guess I'm a purist up until the point a decision is made, and then a non-purist after that?

    To me, it doesn't seem like that much of a contradiction. Sort of a "hope for the best and then appreciate what you're given" sort of thing. To be honest, it's been a pretty easy road so far.

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  119. JackSparrow
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    "Wow, I'm realising from some of these comments that I really wouldn't make a very good actor. Cos I'd be madly curious to read a book for additional help with my character. I'd be eating that shit up! I'd be scouring every note from every source I could find. Such would be my nervousness at such a big job."

    I don't think it's surprising you'd feel this way. I wasn't too surprised that the younger actors seem to have mostly read the books, because this is all very new for them, and they feel probably similar to how you do. I was thinking about this back when GRRM had his meet-up in NI, where the actors who came along with him were mostly the Stark kids and Theon (also, the guy playing Ser Rodrik). Most of them were reading or had read the books (or were having the books read/summarized for them in the case of the two girls). It occurred to me whether or not George had asked any of the more experienced actors to come, and then I laughed at the idea of Sean Bean attending. If I were to bet on any actor being the least likely to have read the books, it would be Bean (not that it's also possible he would've read them, I just doubt it). The more experienced actors have probably been through this rodeo many times (Bean even apparently had to be seriously wooed into becoming involved in this project, according to GRRM). Actors like Bean and Headey maybe read the books behind movies or shows they made when they were younger actors, or, then again, maybe not. Some people just aren't big readers. I wonder if Bean has ready any of the 'Sharpe' novels. I wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't. Every project has a script; some are based on books, some aren't. Some actors might not even know or care that their script is based on a book. I wonder if any of the actors in 'Die Hard' read the book it was based on. The story and many important details will be in the script, and then there are directors and producers to tell the actors what they want (I also wonder if any of the directors have read the books). Some of the veteran actors who have a more serious, theatre-like work ethic maybe would be more likely to have read the books; I wouldn't be surprised if Dinklage read them. But, I wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't.

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  120. Posted July 11, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Piggy-backing onto this for a second, a lot of things kids right out of drama school expect from directors (discussions about motivation, character, notes on playing the scene, etc.) are completely absent for smaller roles outside of the educational setting. The phrase, "You're the actor, figure it out," is a common one. That's not to say *all* directors are like this, but anyone at Lena Headey's level has, by virtue of career alone, been placed in many situations where she's expected to perform with absolutely nothing more than the lines on the page she's been handed and a few notes to figure out what she's doing in the scene. There may be notes if you do something completely wrong, or a "good job," but you kind of have to trust that you're doing and adapt as necessary.

    With larger roles, you have pretty much the same process, but you build on it with a lot more input from the director.

    So, basically, even though there's an entire series of novels out there, everything she needs to do the job she's been doing for so long will be in the scripts she's provided.

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  121. Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Actively avoiding them or reading all or part of them for background research is all part of the actor's individual process. Reading the entire series? Probably the biggest factor is whether or not they enjoy reading large novels.

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  122. Tyler
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    She is certainly intelligent, but she thinks she is more clever than she actually is.

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  123. Tyler
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    She did just have a baby, right? She may have been a little busy to read the books. i hope she finds time to read them in the future, because Cersei is such a dynamic character, but she doesn't have any POV chapters until later books so it isn't as important now as it will come to be.

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  124. Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Good point. My wife's a constant reader, but said she couldn't concentrate enough to make it too far into a book until our daughter was five to six months old.

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  125. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Yes, I am disturbed but by the level of negativity and judgmentalism some people display toward others. It makes me think twice about being honest in public. It's funny, some just cannot handle honesty. If Lena said something politically correct like 'I've begun to read the books, but I'm a long way in' to placate fans instead of being blunt people would have have been happy. Which makes me like her more for being a straightforward non-nonsense person.

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  126. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    I have the impression it was a transcript of a live chat, so the internet lingo might have been added by the IMAY site. I don't think she frequents the internet much.

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  127. Half Myrish
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    I think the word for Cersei is "cunning". Not book smart, but clever in her political machinations and seductions. As Tyrion says, she doesn't lack for wits, but she has no patience.

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  128. Half Myrish
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Cersei blames her washer woman for "shrinking several of her old gowns" so they no longer fit. So she deducts the cost of buying new gowns out of the women's wages. I'm not sure, but I think there is also a line where she getting laced up into a gown and is annoyed that she can't get the laces tighter.

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  129. Posted July 11, 2010 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    I was under the impression that Crystal Sky was talking about a deviation from the plot, like adding some new characters or changing events. obviously they'll need to add scenes to elaborate things that can't be shown otherwise without the POV system.

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  130. Sable
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Actually, Bean is quite an avid reader and has read nearly most books that were adapted for films that he was in, including the Sharpes. He did two of the Sharpe audio books as well, Sharpe's Tiger and Sharpe's Devil. His hesitation at taking on Ned Stark was primarily because he didn't have the confidence he could do the role justice. That suggests that he's likely read the books. He's actually a very humble sort and is always looking to "get better" at his craft. He doesn't see himself as the accomplished actor that we see him as.

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  131. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    "His hesitation at taking on Ned Stark was primarily because he didn't have the confidence he could do the role justice."

    Where did you hear this information?

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  132. Posted July 11, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    I am just curious to know where did you hear/read about the reasons of Bean s hesitation at taking on Ned Stark.
    Maybe it was discussed here on the blog, but it looks like a new information to me.

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  133. Tysnow
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    TROLLTIME! apparently, and by the way Dorne wins the World Cup.
    Anyone know which role Ms. Heady feels she has done her best work, I was going to rent it if available.

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  134. Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    TROLLTIME! apparently, and by the way Dorne wins the World Cup.

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  135. Shiva
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Yesv – they're bloody great books! Why wouldn't ANYONE involved with the project want to read them given their reputation? They've signed up for the thing & HBO is going gaga for the books – you'd think they'd be at least curious what all the hype is about!

    They'd be the least curious ppl in the world to just shrug their shoulders and say "Nah, don't think I'll bother, thanks. Don't you know that us ACT-ORS don't have to do that shit??"

    And thanks for the condescension!

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  136. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    No, I don't think I'm trying to say that reading the book would be harmful, I'm saying that the director / cast etc should make their own decisions on the right way to proceed – creative licence. I think the best art is made when you unfetter your imagination, and some get to that state of creativity in different ways (that's why art is such a personal thing). Obviously you need a pole so imagination doesn't go wild, but for some actors that may be the script, for others the books, for others just their lines, for others the director's wishes. Or several of these. In Lena's case it is fairly obvious that she can draw some very insightful conclusions about Cersei based on the script alone (and perhaps some on-set discussions) so that might be the right way for her. Or she may find she needs more inspiration and read the books. Whichever way, I think we have to judge the end result, not, so to speak, her journey into the character.

    As for deviations, I agree it cannot be too much as it all may run out of hand when so many directors are involved. But some changes – such as enhancing some popular characters, like Brude mentioned, eliminating some story lines viewers don't respond to, adding some scenes – could and I expect will happen. That's why I cringe when I think about that some people already have problems with such a minor thing as an actor not reading the book – wait to see what happens when the series will not follow the book ad literam…oh boy. I predict some gnashing of teeth. This series will be on one tight rope, trying to satisfy all the shades of book fans and nonbook viewers out there. I suspect that if push comes to shove, though, they will choose the majority out there, which will probably be people that tune in every week because they like the show, not necessarily the book. To be successful, a series must cater to their audience first and foremost, although must also avoid 'whoring' which can go horribly wrong.

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  137. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    HBO is going gaga for the TV SHOW, not the books! The actors have signed up for the TV SHOW, not the books. The show is a different entity altogether, how can people not understand this?!?

    If you actually think that every actor involved in this show is going to read through thousands of pages of a fantasy series, just because they're acting in the TV adaptation, then you're going to be very disappointed.

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  138. Mormegil
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Actually the announcements were just under a month apart, 3rd August for Catelyn and 1st Sept for Cersei. It's quite possible she was in the running for both roles but I doubt they offered her Catelyn then offered her Cersei when she turned down Catelyn.

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  139. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Jeez, I write too much… professional habit be damned.

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  140. LUP
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    "I don't think "smart" is a good word to describe Cersei. Maybe replace that with impulsive? "

    Low animal cunning is how Tyrion describes her IIRC

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  141. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Aberdeen is the best I think, and apparently she agrees with me :P (see interview). A bit hard to find though, but well worth it, I think it's a brilliant duet between her and Stellan Skarskgard it. If it had been American or at least British (it's a Norwegian film) it could have earned her an Oscar or BAFTA nomination.

    I also like the Broken a lot, but the movie is more about style and mood than characters. Some people didn't like it though, perhaps because it was branded as a horror when it's really a psychological thriller with a very European atmosphere. Quite haunting though. Lena did well in it (as main character), but it is not a character-driven story like Aberdeen.

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  142. Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    There are things in the book that won't make it on screen. That's a given. Right now a lot of our guesses what those things are seem to be driven a lot by our individual prejudices regarding the characters, and while a fun mental exercise really aren't worth worrying about until they happen. I'm really more intrigued by the additions. I've already read the books, after all, so any new scenes are going to be welcome.

    The thing you mention about what Brude said about enhancing some popular characters reminded me of something Michael K. Williams about Omar Little on The Wire:
    http://www.afterelton.com/people/2008/2/michaelkw

    "In the beginning, Omar was only reoccurring in Season 1 and I was only supposed to have seven episodes and be gone. So I think, with whatever I brought to the table, and the way the fans responded to the writing, plus the performance, it just kind of grew into this phenomenon. I don't think anybody could have foreseen my character being as popular as it is."

    I'm not saying that this would spare any character marked for death, but it could garner them more prominence in episodes. Imagine if Bronn takes off and everyone wants to see more of him…

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  143. MrCere
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    For the record, I am definitely not a purist, not am I concerned that a veteran actress hasn't read the books.

    However, <<your contract doesn't say "You are also required to read a 4,000 page fantasy series that this script is based on, for deeper understanding of your character". That's ridiculous. >>

    I don't read many people saying she must read the books but that it would be nice. Were I portraying a role, I personally would want as deep an understanding as possible of the character. It would be my nature to invest myself in any information I could get.

    So many, who may feel like me, are remarking that she isn't reading and they wish she would and wish she would enjoy it like they do. We all tend to want others to like what we like. I don't think that is ridiculous at all.

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  144. paulgude
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    To be fair, I think Lex read "…not reading the books in a show where the books are basically a giant back story/biography/depth/detail for each character smacks of irresponsibility," from Who Is Jacopo Belbo? first. If he inferred from that statement that people felt not reading the books was equated with her not taking her profession seriously, I figure it'd be easy for Lex to view the other "she's not reading the books?!?" comments in the same light.

    Like you stated, I'm sure that's not what everyone is saying.

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  145. Shiva
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    It's like someone signing up to play Smike and not reading Nicholas Nickleby. But hey, it's the TV SERIES they signed up for!

    "How can people not understand this?!?"

    LOL. We're obviously dumbasses, right?

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  146. Steel_Wind
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:31 am | Permalink

    The Fanboism on this site is achieving new heights with this fawning tribute to a lazy Lena Headey.

    The actress plainly describes Cersei Lannister as "smart" — when in fact she's portrayed as an unsubtle amateur whose only attribute is her beauty — not brains. AFFC confirms that she's paranoid, nutty, thick as a post and over-rates her own intelligence far too much. A low cunning? Perhaps.

    Lena Headey would know that if she bothered to read the books. But she won't as apparently she's got something else to do. So we get a "smart" Cersei Lannister for all our trouble. Oh goodie.

    Yet amazingly, the fanbois on this forum cheer this on as a legitimate decision by an actor so as to "provide her with more leeway in interpreting" the role. By which you mean to say — and I understand you to mean — that this "leeway" is magicked out of thin air by Lena Headey performing the role as she supposes it — and not as the fans of the series understand and expect and the author intended.

    But it's all good because "Lena's so hot" and "we're sure she'll do a wonderful job".

    Well — for the record: I'm sure as hell not sure of any actor who has had half a year to read the books her role is based on and can't be bothered to do so.

    In fact, about the only thing I'm sure about upon learning that fact is that we can probably do without an actress who either: a) clearly holds the genre in contempt or b) is intent upon ignoring the character portrayed in the novels in favour of some OTHER "superior" version of Cersei Lannister based not upon the books but upon her sense of "what feels right".

    Great, just great.

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  147. Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:52 am | Permalink

    I will continue to pronounce it "Sir-See" in my head probably until I hear them saying it on screen.

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  148. Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Are you seriously this worked up over the use of the word "smart"? How about we wait and see how she does in the show before tearing her apart.

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  149. Mogons
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:14 am | Permalink

    Aside from the obvious fact that you've decided anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint is a "fanboi" and thus your opinions can themselves be dismissed as not worth much, you've also apparently tossed out an entire style of acting in the process. Did you consider at all the Ms. Headey wants to avoid reading the books so that her performance isn't tainted by later revelations in the book? As readers, we don't get see Cersei unveiled over the course of several long books. If Headey were to play here, fully realized as the character she later is revealed to be, then the viewers of the series are cheated of the same kind of development a reader gets to see. Cersei's flaws, in all their sordid glory, are NOT revealed at the outset. Not reading the books could be a very valid decision by an actor, wanting to let the character develop via the script itself, and not prejudice the performance with later information about the character from later books.

    You seem to be insisting that the Cersei who GRRM allows us to see in the first book (and thus at the start of the TV series too) be the same one who is more fully revealed by AFFC? That wasn't the case in the books, and shouldn't be the case in the series either, if you are as set upon having everything detail exactly like the books as you imply. Think it through. Your position is shallow and one-sided, and thus just as ultimately not valid as that of the "fanboi" insult you blithely toss about onto others.

    Glass houses and all, sport. Maybe you should think a bit deeper and consider all possibilities before jumping off the deep end into what amounts to the polar opposite of a fanboi post, an unreasoned hate-filled rant. Have a nice day.

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  150. Mogons
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:23 am | Permalink

    Or perhaps she wishes to read the books in parallel with the filming, at most. That way she doesn't prejudice her performance with information not revealed until later in the series. GRRM didn't reveal the full depths of Cersei's personality until later books. Her flaws are not at all as evident in the first book. As you said, Headey might simply be taking the same path as Moore.

    Not reading the books is not at all a bad sign, but might instead be a good sign of an actor who trusts and relies upon the writers to properly develop the character. I think it rests entirely upon the acting style of the performer, whether or not to read the books.

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  151. Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:35 am | Permalink

    There are absolutely actors who would sign up to play Smike and not read Nicholas Nickleby, just like there are ones who would sign up to play Little Wackford Squeers, read the entire book, and watch any performance they could get their hands on.

    Every actor is different. As paradoxical as it might seem, an actor's interest in diving into source material has little relation to their ability to bring the script the writers have adapted from that material to life. That's measured in the audition process.

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  152. paulgude
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    I agree with all of this.

    It's worth noting that she answered the, "Have you read the books?" question with a simple, "No," and then went on to answer a separate question. We might be interested in why she didn't or if she will, but my impression is that she feels it isn't something on which she needs to elaborate.

    Obviously, I feel the same way.

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  153. Cat of the Canals
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:45 am | Permalink

    Yes, I wish she had read the books. Obviously we all love them or we wouldn't be so obsessed with this kind of discussion, but there are other factors here. First, it's very possible that, as others have mentioned, she wants to immerse herself entirely in the role and help herself out with that by letting the character develop within the script, rather than knowing exactly how everything ends up. I'm no actor, I don't know all the pros and cons of this kind of method, but I assume a professional actress has a general handle on how to do her job.
    Second, as Steel_Wind points out, "apparently she's got something else to do". You know, like starting a family, raising a child, maybe sleeping a coupe hours a day…the woman is busy, and there is no reason for us to demand that she drop her entire life in order to become Cersei.
    So sure, I love the books. If I had been cast as Cersei, I probably would read them. But let's not disparage Headey's character and question the quality of the entire show just because she's not doing things the way we obsessed fans might.
    And as far as use of the word 'smart' goes, hell, Cersei herself thinks she's smart…maybe this is another acting trick, describing your character as she would describe herself? I'm mostly kidding. Let's put this down to questionable word choice. Besides, 'low cunning' would have taken her to seven words, and she's already getting crap for using six…

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  154. shadallion
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:59 am | Permalink

    Steel Wind's bedside manner is a bit rough, but i sort of agree with him/her.

    Paulgude and others have done a great job of shedding some light on how different actors approach roles, particularly if there is source material.

    However, nothing Lena said led me to to believe that that was her rationale for not having read the books. She just sounded pretty much apathetic to the whole project, frankly. Yes she is a new mom. And according to everyone who has posted, that takes over one's life, 100%. It just seems like this another job for her.

    I personally dont like her past work and i dont really think she's a good pick for Cersei. That is just my opinion. This interview did nothing to enhance my opinion of her, thats for sure.

    And i definitely dont see how Cersei can be seen as "intelligent."

    I hope Lena proves me wrong.

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  155. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:21 am | Permalink

    Well, Cersei certainly is smarter than Robert…does that count?
    And, of course, **spoiler**
    Manages to play Ned neatly into her hand…no. I think that is smart. She's capable of that trait. It's just her anger management that gets in the way, on occasion…and her psychotic son.

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  156. Chris
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:25 am | Permalink

    This argument has definitely run its course and I am late to the party, but my feeling is this: I would much rather have someone knock the role out of the park and not read the books, than to devour every detail they can about the character and just give a mediocre performance.

    My point is that it is silly to assume that an actor NEEDS to read the book to play the character correctly and most definitely a little patronizing to said actor. By her comments she seems like she understands Cersei perfectly so I don't even think its an issue either way.

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  157. Kanga
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:26 am | Permalink

    My two cents: Don't everyone freak out about her seeming apathetic/ not extremely interested in GoT. Sounds to me like she's still trying to adjust to the recent massive changes in her life, and understandably so. I'm sure when she gets back on set and actually gets going with the show, she'll get into it and all will be well.

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  158. Chris
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:30 am | Permalink

    Agreed, and furthermore… she seemed pretty excited to me. I don't know how excited people expect her to get in an interview.

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  159. Stella Maris
    Posted July 11, 2010 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Amidst all this argument over whether or not Cersei is smart, I'll just add….

    She is smart, meaning she is intelligent and shrewd. She is, however, not WISE – she does not learn well from her own mistakes or from the mistakes of those around her. What most of you are debating about is not smartness, but wisdom. They're related, they can work together, but they are NOT the same thing.

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  160. Chris
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:35 am | Permalink

    Definitely agree with this. To me, she is an expert manipulator and successfully got just about anything she wanted – which takes some cunning and intelligence. However, the things that she wanted usually turned out to be short-sighted and detrimental to herself and Westeros in the long run.

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  161. paulgude
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    Also, a quick note that today is the last day of GRRM’s Clarion gig:

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/160755.html

    “Sorry, no hints or casting announcements until the 11th. At least not from me.”

    That’s no guarantee that we’re going to get any hints or casting announcements today, but it’s nice to know that I can start obsessively checking Not a Blog now as well.

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  162. Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:24 am | Permalink

    That sort of happened with Bronn in GoT. When GRRM first wrote him, he didn't expect him to be around in the story much longer, but he liked him too much after he created him and he kept finding reasons for him to stay around and for Tyrion to need him.

    **SPOILER***
    I think his character is a great little side-story, seeing this absolute scoundrel rise from nothing through his own wit, skill and a bit of luck to being a surprisingly powerful lord of a not insignificant fiefdom. The story doesn't impact greatly after a point on the main plot, but it's always there, going along in the background. I wonder what will come of him in later books.

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  163. Mike Strauss
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    Leaving Barcelona today. I managed to hop on the internet. Wow! What alot of news! I can't wait to get back to the states to dig in! Till then have fun everyone and Viva la Espana!

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  164. paulgude
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Of course, this gets into the question of where intelligence and stupidity lie, as well. My friend Sonia worked as a receptionist for a genetics research facility and mentioned how none of the doctors were able to figure out how the coffee maker worked. It wasn't that they said they couldn't and then made her do it, but that they kept trying to use it and consistently used it wrong, resulting in the thing overflowing two times a week.

    My father can read Greek, Hebrew, Latin, German, and French but needs my help setting up his printer. His students think he's smart, tech support thinks he's stupid. Depending on the circumstances, they're both kind of right. While there are some insufferable/awesome people who seem to be always right, there are plenty of people who shine in some circumstances and seem dumb as a post in others.

    *SPOILERS*
    You could say that her manipulations that got Joffery on the throne were smart, but her overestimating her ability to control him was stupid.
    *SPOILERS*

    So, she used the word "smart," to describe Cersei when asked to limit her description to five words. I'm sure if she went into more detail, we'd get more of a picture regarding the decisions she's envisioning.

    Plus that "insecure" and "paranoid" balance out the "smart" pretty well, as does her statement that Cersei possesses "a growing madness."

    *SPOILERS*

    In AFfC GRRM demonstrates, I think brilliantly, how many of Cersei's "foolish" decisions are actually very logical were it not for the fact that they are based on information that is true only in her own mind. I think one of the reasons that he gave us this peek into her head to dismiss those who write her off as being merely stupid.

    *SPOILERS*

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  165. Brude
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    She is smart, but she's also insane which causes all sorts of problems for her. It reminds me of one of my favorite scenes from the movie "Manhunter," and the following exchange:

    Doctor Hannibal Lecktor: By implication you think you're smarter than me since you caught me.

    Will Graham: No, I know that I'm not smarter than you.

    Doctor Hannibal Lecktor: Then how did you catch me?

    Will Graham: You had disadvantages.

    Doctor Hannibal Lecktor: What disadvantages?

    Will Graham: You're insane.

    Same goes for Cersei…she has severe disadvantages. Here's that Manhunter scene, by the way:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBlqEshqeA&fe

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  166. stevelabny
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:44 am | Permalink

    Steel_Wind is wrong about Cersei not being smart, and i'll explain why.

    SPOILERS, naturally.

    Let's pretend that since they're only filming Game of Thrones (so far), you've only read Game of Thrones…

    In Game of Thrones….Cersei wins. She goes from being the abused wife of the king with illegitimate children and a proud and noble Ned trying to sniff out her dirty laundry.

    Bran, the little boy who spies her with her brother? Thrown out a window and left crippled and in a coma.

    Robert, the husband she doesn't love and abuses her? Drugged by her flunky and gored to death by a boar, nobody suspects her.

    Ned Stark, who was going to take the kingdom away from her and her son, in the name of all that is just and good? Beheaded!

    In the first book, with all of the power and intelligence supposedly running around….Cersei wins.

    She clearly comes out further ahead in the first book then where she started. Sure Dany got some baby dragons, but she's alone and her husband is dead. Sure Robb is "King in the North" but his dad is dead, one of his brothers is a cripple, and his two sisters are in enemy hands.

    Cersei CLEARLY wins the game in the first book.

    Is she book-smart like a maester or Tyrion? No, but those guys are really smart. Is she clever like Littlefinger or Olenna Tyrell or future-Sansa? No, but those characters are super-clever, and have subtlety and patience Cersei doesn't possess. This is like saying that a mediocre athlete in professional sports is not great, because he's not a star. To play professionally, you have to be one of the best in the world.

    Sure Cersei goes from a little paranoid to completely unhinged over the course of the books, but she doesn't start out that way. Sure she's getting a lot of behind the scenes help from Littlefinger, but she doesn't know that. Sure, she's getting a lot of help from Ned, who is the biggest idiot on the face of Westeros and naively plays everything all wrong….but at the end of the day… She's Queen Regent for her son, the King and seemingly has a very tight grasp on the throne.

    Remember that to a "regular person" fantasy stories are supposed to be about heroic-farmboy-orphans-with-a-superpower. Imagine if you would a "regular person" who reads these books and imagines Ned as a noble hero, Jaime as a vile villain and hasn't yet grasped the concept of shades-of-gray. Imagine a "regular person" who would describe this series as "Sopranos meets middle Earth". In this place of "regular people" , where subtlety of language isn't a strong point, in this place…Cersei, says "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die". Ned dies, Cersei wins. And that makes her smart.

    For now.

    Basically, you guys who are going nutty are proving the case for not reading ahead. And I never would have thought that reading ahead was bad until now.

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  167. Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:02 am | Permalink

    Right, so using this as an example:

    ***SPOILERS***
    ***SPOILERS***
    ***SPOILERS***

    You know I'm fond of Brienne as a character, and view her as entirely essential, so this is just a thought experiment of love.

    Let's say, for whatever reason she tests horribly with the audience. Everyone LOVES Bronn. Season Four is coming up (I can dream, right?) and HBO decides to do the following:

    At the end of Season Three, Brienne is arrested for Renly's murder. Jaime sends her off to find Sansa.

    In Season Four, we don't see Brienne at all for a long time. In her place, we see an entirely new subplot with Bronn adjusting to life as a lord and his marriage to Lollys Stokeworth. Instead of Cersei merely being informed of Bronn naming his new son Tyrion, we see him do it. In a flip from the books, we see Jamie informed of Brienne's progress through a dispatch from Lord Randyll.

    Then, they could pick up with her arriving at the Quiet Isle and follow her journey from there.

    Again, I don't think this will happen, but I see it as much more plausible than people who suggest Brienne should be written out of existence entirely.

    ***SPOILERS***
    ***SPOILERS***
    ***SPOILERS***

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  168. chris
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:03 am | Permalink

    I believe when a role is based off a book the actor should read whether they are sticking to the source material or not. If an actor has time to read and memorize a script then they have time to read a few chapters of a book! Reading is not time consuming when done a few pages or chapter at a time. No excuses for Headey

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  169. Ace
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:15 am | Permalink

    I am no expert on acting whatsoever, so I would not be surprised at all if I'm wrong. However, I agree with shadallion and SteelWind that Lena Headey's attitude towards the series seems indifferent. The aspect of not reading the books may or may not be a bad thing in and of itself (for reasons mentioned above or others), but combined with her other comments, it is a bit disappointing.

    Look at how many times the interviewer tried to ask her if she was exicted about the role / preparing for it, etc. Look at her answers. "God no I can't relate to the character" "No I did not read the books" "No I did not talk to GRRM at all about the character; instead we just drank beer"

    Like shadallion said, I hope Lena proves me wrong.

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  170. Kanga
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:24 am | Permalink

    Exactly. She seems to be looking forward to it. And hey, she mentioned getting a lot of offers lately, and she still chose GoT. That says something, I think.

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  171. Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:25 am | Permalink

    I think this is where this discussion gets off-track.

    You're more than welcome to your opinion about how a role based on book should be researched, but that opinion doesn't change the realities of how these things are actually done.

    Headey isn't some schoolgirl who's shirking a homework assignment. She's neither under obligation to read the books, nor to explain to us why she isn't doing it.

    Some people have voiced the opinion that they think it's a shame that she's not reading them, and they hope she will. I get that.

    Implying that she's obligated to read the books or is somehow is any less skilled at her craft because she hasn't at this point will continue to meet with resistance from people who have experience with actors who work in a similar fashion.

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  172. Guest
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:25 am | Permalink

    I didn't read apathy in he comments at all. Sure, she's not obsessing over the series like a lot of the die-hard fans, but that doesn't mean she's apathetic. She strikes me as very professional. I have seen her in a few interviews and I think she seems like a very thoughtful person–not the type to blow off a serious job or to turn in second-rate work.
    I also think she's a very fine actress. I've seen about everything she's done, which is little enough, but I think she's perfect for the role. I'm looking forward to her performance and I have total confidence in her as Cersei.

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  173. mummer
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:50 am | Permalink

    And this was an informal interview for a fan site– a fan site for a movie that has nothing to do with this. The interviewer didn't seem particularly familiar with the books, and it's not like Headey was choosing every word for how it would sound to *this* fan audience.

    Even if she had tried to do so, this thread is proof that the same brief remark will be taken in 10 different ways by 10 very opinionated people. Sometimes quite unpleasantly.

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  174. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:08 am | Permalink

    So… is she supposed to read just a few chapters? Or the whole book? Or the whole series?

    These comments are getting more and more ridiculous. I'm a little embarassed by some of the more… "zealous" members of this fandom. Yeesh.

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  175. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    I guess she was supposed to say "OMG, OMG, I can't BELIEVE I'm playing Cersei Lannister! I'm currently reading all the books right now, and WOWWWW, I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!"

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  176. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    This is bringing up the larger question of what "smart" actually means. This comes up all the time when I'm teaching kids (they love to label certain kids as "smart"). In fact, there are at least 7 kinds of intelligence that have been studied (and probably many more). Visual/spatial intelligence, logic, book smarts, street smarts, verbal/linguistic smarts, etc. etc. etc.

    Arguing over whether or not Cersei is "smart" is an unanswerable question in the end, because there are too many differing definitions of the word.

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  177. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Sorry, but I still can't get over this comment. "No excuse for Headey"? Really?? That is one of the most arrogant things I've ever heard.

    In case you really do believe what you are saying, then I feel obliged to point out to you that MANY actors (perhaps even the majority) do NOT read the source material that their characters are based upon.

    Also, actors aside, reading an epic fantasy series is NOT for everyone. I have friends that wouldn't even be able to make it through the Prologue of Book 1, despite being intelligent and talented people.

    This strange belief that the actors NEED to read the books is really, really immature and out of touch with reality.

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  178. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    Yes, this whole debate is pointless because there are MANY multiple forms of intelligence. Thanks for giving us a few examples.

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  179. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    Your comments are absolutely ridiculous. As if ANY new mother is going to go read a 4,000 page fantasy series, because she filmed a pilot that MIGHT get picked up for a full season in about a year's time. Right…

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  180. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    Please provide a link to the Bean information, or it sounds like speculation at best, and misinformation at worst.

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  181. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:26 am | Permalink

    You just proved my point. MANY actors would (and probably HAVE) played Smike without reading Nicholas Nickleby. The same goes for ANY movie/show that is adapted from books. I'm honestly still shocked that you would even believe this in the first place.

    Actors do not go running around reading all the source material their role is adapted from. It just doesn't happen.

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  182. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:28 am | Permalink

    To clarify: as paulgude said, all actors work differently, and SOME actors WOULD indeed read all available source material… but my guess is that they're the minority.

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  183. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    You know, I'm skeptical that's the real reason people are upset that Lena hasn't read the books. They're SAYING it's because she should learn more about her character, but that's what the director (and writers) are for.

    Honestly, I think people are mad because they want Lena to prove that she's a hardcore ASOIAF fan like the rest of us. Clearly she isn't (not yet, at least) and people are resenting that fact.

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  184. Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    Exactly. A rocket scientist becomes an idiot the minute he rear-ends someone's car, even if only for a while.

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  185. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    I think Sir-See is close enough to Sir-Say. I'm not even sure which one I use.

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  186. paulgude
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:58 am | Permalink

    I will say that some discussions I've had (elsewhere) have given me a similar impression. There was a feel that Lena Headey "gets to" play Cersei and then doesn't have the courtesy to "put out the effort" to read the books. Basically, she's in a position that some envy, and those that do may not feel she "deserves" to be Cersei because she isn't a fan like we are.

    She isn't someone who won a contest, though. She's a professional who beat out a lot of competition with her skill and reputation.

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  187. Posted July 12, 2010 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    I think people are applying intelligence by association. Like next to Tyrion, Varys, and Littlefinger, she doesn't stack up all very well. But next to others … she's certainly outsmarted her fair share of people. (Including most of the Starks; if you view Cersei as stupid, you have to say the Starks are near-imbeciles.)

    And Cersei certainly thinks she's intelligent (though clearly in later seasons she's not nearly as smart as she thinks she is). I would say her biggest shortcoming, by far, is her vanity. Next to that is her impatience. But she's intelligent.

    As far as people getting their tits in an uproar over Lena sounding apathetic … hey, if that's what gets you worked up, I can't tell you not to be. Chicken coop effect.

    Very few of my friends believe she will be any good in this role, but I'm calling my shot (you heard it here first, boys and girls): she'll be one of the great revelations of this show; one of those roles that will have people going, "Holy crapmonkeys, I didn't know SHE had THAT in her!"

    Lena's been waiting to get her antagonist on. Swing it, girl!

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  188. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    I'd say Cersei's biggest shortcoming is her short-sightedness (related to impulsiveness, related to paranoia). We see this clearly in Book 4, when she makes impulsive decision after impulsive decision, termporarily solving immediate problems but completely ignoring the long term implications (e.g. re-arming the Faith).

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  189. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    I can't understand why people think that the actors need to be fans of the series.

    Yes, Lena "gets to" play Cersei… because she's an actor, and that's what they do!

    We have got to be the most spoiled fandom, when it comes to casting. So far, most of our cast have proven acting skills, look physically perfect for their roles… and now they need to be fans of the series too? We are spoiled.

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  190. Chris
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    I feel obligated to post to represent us other Chris'.

    a.) Surely they don't memorize the entire script before shooting. They probably know what they are shooting for a day / week / whatever and memorize their lines, refreshing between takes. This is definitely not the same as reading FOUR gigantic books. (or skimming through all the chapters for the one's Cersei is in…)

    b.) Have a kid and see how fast you can read a book in the first 6 months of its life. I think many people probably would take over 6 months to read the books with minimal distractions.

    c.) Whether we like it or not, this is just another job for her. It may be a better or more exciting job than others, but its still a job and she is probably going to approach it like she does any job.

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  191. Chris
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    There is definitely lots of spoiledness and impossible expectations around here.

    I hopes its the minority, but its hard to tell sometimes because they seem to come in huge waves.

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  192. 7bf
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    well, i guess for some people it's difficult to understand how you can sign a contract that will keep you busy for the next seven+ years (;)) and not inhale everything available. Maybe that's because most people here are heavy readers and forget that most of the other people out there don't read anything for fun. Until now this was just another pilot for her after all.
    I'll be surprised when she hasn't read GoT after shooting season one. Must be tempting to wait with the chapters until they actually shot the episodes, maybe she will read them on set while waiting for her makeup,…

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  193. Chris
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    She should definitely be on at least her second read-through. There's just too many nuances to be picked up on the first time.

    /sarcasm

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  194. Posted July 12, 2010 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    She also added "paranoid", so theres the "stupid" side of Cersei for you.

    I do believe that Cersei is smart – just like her father and brothers. (Yes, Jaime too, as we start to see in AFFC – his arrogance got in the way of him before.) But her problems make her look rather silly.

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  195. Posted July 12, 2010 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    So what if she can't relate to the character? And the not reading the books-thing doesn't count when we don't know why. And she did not talk to GRRM at all, it seems she did not really have the chance. She did not sit and drink with him. At least she was there?

    And regarding exitement, we do get two nice lines:

    "I am so looking forward to be a villain for once"

    "i am excited about bringing a whole new experience to my work."

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  196. Tremere
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Is there anything you can relate to with the character you play in the Games of Thrones?

    God no… apart from being a mum now, i am excited about bringing a whole new experience to my work.

    SPOILERS

    considering that Cersei is:

    A) unfateful to her husband.

    B) having incest with her twin, who's the father of her kids.

    C) does not hesitate to plan people's Deaths, including her own husband.

    I can actually understand why a new mum would not be able to relate to her. She may not have read the books, but I'm pretty certain she has gotten a synopsis of the character.

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  197. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Exactly! Her "God, no" response was because Cersei is a horrible villain. Now people are trying to twist it into some kind of apathetic response from Lena, which it clearly wasn't. It was a joke! As in "Can I relate to Cersei Lannister? God no, and thank goodness!"

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  198. JackSparrow
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    "So we get a "smart" Cersei Lannister for all our trouble. Oh goodie. "

    I share your concern: Cersei in 'GoT' will have a bulbous forehead so her skull can contain her massive brain. She will not speak as she is too intelligent to engage in lowly human "auditory communication." She will instead send thought waves at people, causing them either intense pain or euphoric pleasure, depending on whether or not she is pleased with what they have to say.

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  199. JackSparrow
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    "It just seems like this another job for her."

    Yes, this is a thing I think a lot of people have a problem with. It is probably just a job to her, cause acting is her job. She might like this job more than others, or she might not. She probably got this job for the same reason people generally get jobs, because she gave a good interview. Her job is probably important to her, and she probably puts a lot of effort into doing it well, but she's probably never going to have anything like the ASoIaF fans' insane love for the property.

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  200. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    I think Lex is spot on – I definitely get a ' why can't she/he be just like me?' vibe going on. Needless to say, this type of intolerant attitude takes all the fun out of life as such a person is always disappointed to discover that other people think and act differently than they do. Funny, in real life people have to 'get over it', but online boards are a perfect outlet for whining against diversity and difference. The simplest way is, of course, to pick on a public figure and project one's frustrations on him/her.

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  201. agor
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    This is now my favorite fan freakout after the fake snow incident.

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  202. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    I'd say let's hire Steel Wind as the casting director and the first thing he/she gets to do is fire Lena Headey. She'd be like: 'why?' and he/she replies: 'I'm firing you because you dared to use the 'S' word in connection with Cersei Lannister. And by the way, you are a lazy a$$ who chose to spend her time taking care of the newly born baby instead of reading the books. Jeez – just put him up for adoption, will you? GoT is more important. Your choice shows you hate the genre anyway.' And she'd be like: 'but wouldn't you like to see some of my acting work before you make that kind of decision?' Steel Wind: 'Nope. I know all I need to know from the interview. And by the way, please take all the fanboys with you. Anyone who thinks Cersei may be smart can't read properly. There is only one interpretation of the text, and that is MINE.'
    Jeez… some people…

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  203. Crystal Sky
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    1. Yes, I got the feeling that some people just don't like Lena Headey, which they are entitled to do, but it is a bit funny that they would use all sorts of twisted arguments to make their personal choice appear 'rational and justified'. I don't like David Villa (Spain footballer) but I will not say he's a bad player just because I don't like his looks and style. I would suspect 80% or more of people that don't like her have not even seen her play than perhaps some eps of Terminator. Fair enough – why check other movies with an artist you don't like? But then again, don't just assume she's a bad actor or irresponsible or whatever just based on one interpretation or , even worse, an interview!

    2. Smart can mean very many things, not just MENSA IQ. When I read Lena's characterisation I initially thought she meant something like 'cunning' , 'wily', 'animal instincts'. Obviously others understood intelligent in an Einstein kind of way. To each his own, I guess.

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  204. Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Agreed! Great Monday reading ;)

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  205. c0venant
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Some actors choose to read the books upon which the script is based and some dont. Some actors want to be faithful to the original idea and others to the production itself. Its all a matter of technique. Ive seen enough episodes of actors studio to know this.

    As long as their work turns out fine its noones business but their own.

    Secondly I like the balance here between the actors. Some are fans of the work and some are proffessional actors just doing their job.
    I think both kinds are needed but none more than the other. The fans bring fire and energy and the proffessionals credibility to the production.

    Lena seems to have a proffessional view and that is what to expect. Lets not forget that after TtSCC she is probarly a bit fed up with hardcore fans in general. That is to be expected.

    We dont want this to turn out as some crappy fan fiction so let the actors do what they do best and just shut up about it.

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  206. c0venant
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    I totally agree with you there Lex.

    Every actor have his or her own method. Some read the source material and some dont. Some watch their own takes and some dont.

    Me myself I could guess that reading the books would block me from acting as natural as I possibly could.

    It is their job we are talking about here and not your fantasy-come-true, Chris. Get real

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  207. Ser_G
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    In book 1, Cersei IS the smart one. She masterminds the death of her husband, plays Ned Stark like a fiddle, and winds up in exactly the position she wants: her son on the Iron Throne, with her as his primary advisor, whispering in his ear. What do the more respected members of her family do? Tyrion spends most of the book in a Sky Cell, Tywin underestimates Robb Stark to the point of being on the cusp of losing the entire war, and Jaime allows himself to be caught up in an ambush and captured.

    Cersei plays the game of thrones quite well. Her incompetence reveals itself more in her inability as a ruler, particularly in her inability to control her son, which has as much to do with her blindness to their faults as it does with her stupidity.

    Or does, you know, actual knowledge of the series' characters come off as too "fanboyish"?

    Insistence that the actors read the books is childish. Actors are BUSY. New moms, even moreso. They have interests that are likely not congruent with ours. To most of them, particularly the principals, this is a JOB. Lucrative, high-profile, a chance to show off their chops, maybe even win some awards, if the stars align. More than that is a bonus.

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  208. Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    He probably got strip searched at an airport or something. I wasn't expecting anything from George until late in the day Monday, when he'll probably give us an update of his workshop and whine about American Airlines or something. He sure hates his airlines! lol

    I'll hold my breath in anticipation nonetheless.

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  209. Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Yep, well said!

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  210. Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    This fan entitlement needs to stop. Go ahead and crack on the actors for not reading the books, I really doubt they would care that you're all so butthurt.

    But here's a very real scenario that will be happening sooner than you think:

    Fans of the TV series.

    Fans of the show will start to come on the blogs and the boards and want to talk about it. Some of them may be fans of the books who were never nerdy enough to go talk about them on the internet until now. Many of them will be fans of the show who may have never heard of the books. But they like the show. And, here we go, some of them may not immediately go read the books. Or, they might want to watch the show, enjoy it, and then have _no interest in reading the books_. That will happen. And some of the people here will just DIE. And I think that's something certain people need to start wrapping their heads around right now.

    Now, I don't know how long the first season will air. Ten episodes so.. 10 weeks? 10 months? How does HBO usually do this? Regardless, the show fans that have any interest in reading the books will (and probably should) watch all of season one first before reading A Game of Thrones. But some may never want to read them. And if the response to this article is typical at all, some people are going to need to be a lot more tolerant of people not reading the books once the series airs.

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  211. Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Woot Woot to the teacher's on the blog! lol

    But seriously, multiple intelligences dooooo exist, as does a little something called emotional intelligence (which Cersei is, of course, a dunce in)
    But as some guy with steve in his name said a little earlier in these posts, she is pretty darn smart in the first book. She gets rid of Robert and Ned and sets herself up as Queen regeant. Nothing to shirk at!

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  212. Posted July 12, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Thanks for that comment. Are we really all this crazy?

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  213. Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    I think Cersei is almost as intelligent as Tyrion, Varys and Littlefinger. I've always seen her problem as being born a beautiful woman. She is so used to guys wanting her and girls wanting to be her…that she uses her beauty to get her way far too often and she never developed any other skills. Tyrion, Varys and Littlefinger didn't have this advantage and had to develope many other tools to manipulate the players. The reason Cersei is outsmarted is because all 3 of them know the "tool" Cersei is using and they just have to think of ways to counter it.

    Basically Cersei has the intelligence, she just never developed it properly by using her beauty instead of her brains.

    But I totally agree that Lena's going to be awesome in this role.

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  214. Cat of the Canals
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Well stated. Fake snow discussions will pale in comparison to the outrage some will feel at 'TV-only' fans. Probably myself included. Let's all try not to scare them all away with our zeal too early on, yes? I'm sure we'll all have moments of "YOU HAVEN'T EVEN READ THE BOOKS?? YOU'RE NO REAL FAN!" but let's keep in mind that HBO will need casual watchers in order for this show to continue to run. And that's all we really want, in the end.

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  215. Godin
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Now when I compare these "disappointed" comments to those which suggested every conceivable roles for an actor whatshisname just because he is a fan of the books…well, that's the fun to be in a fandom.
    Whether an actor has read or enjoyed the original books or not affects little the quality of his perfomance, as long as he can follow the director's instructions well enough. Some directors actually dislike it when an actor gives too intensive a reading to the script because that is apt to lead him to follow his own interpretation rather than the director's. A stubborn actor could easily be a director's nightmare. For similar reasons some actors avoid reading the script too closely before shooting in fear of being prejudiced. Though I do hope Lena gives it a read at her convenience since it's so well-written, so inspiring books.

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  216. Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    I think a lot of fans just have this unrealistic expectation that all the Actors in this are going to be like, "THIS IS THE GREATEST PROJECT I HAVE EVER OR WILL EVER BE ASSOCIATED WITH," and it's just not gonna happen.

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  217. Critical_Geek
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    I have still never read any Sookie Stackhouse books, nor Harry Potter, though I do appreciate True Blood and the HP movies. On the other hand, I've never gone to any of their boards for fear of spoilerage. This means that I basically don't really care much about what the die hard fanbases of either community feel about the live action counterparts. I just watch the shows.

    I expect similar reactions from Game of Thrones watchers about die hard ASOIAF fan freakouts.

    Is the Wall gonna be 700 ft tall? No. Messes with the arrow scenes. That's obviously a measurement snafu in the books of the type that GRRM hates getting trapped into (same reason he hates maps, because then he has to worry about fans trapping him about travel times other than speed of plot).

    40 horse drawn wheelhouse? Puh-leese.

    Cercei and Gregor played smart? Among half a dozen other terms thrown into their character descriptions? Clearly I'm a fanboi because my freakout meter still ain't budging.

    Heck, the Manderlys might just be fat rather than obese.

    Oh, also: echo echo echo echo echo…..

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  218. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    I've never read Lord of the Rings. There, I said it. I love the movies and I have _tried_ to read the books, both before and many many times after I have seen the films. I just can't do it. Each time, I get a little further into Fellowship before I give up because there's too much singing and eating.

    I have friends who love both the books and the movies. I have friends who love the books and adamantly refuse to see the movies because of how much was cut/inaccuracies/poor casting/whatever. They hate the movies and wish they had never been made. They scoff derisively at people who have watched the movies and never read the books and ever more so at fans of the books who dare to enjoy the movies. And these people look like freaking psychos to me. I really love the movies and re-watch them often and I do want to someday manage to get through the books (I don't understand it! I'm an avid reader and I love fantasy.. oh well), but I cannot understand how nuts some people are about it.

    And this is how some of the people here are going to look next year.

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  219. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Smart people have telepathic powers? realy?

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  220. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    We got Barristan.
    Oliver Powell strikes again.
    It is Ian MCELHINNEY.

    Please, help me find nice pic of him.

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  221. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Completely agree. I know the show is going to be different from the books. Even if they used the bloody books for the script there's no way the actors would be what we think, the directors have the same vision, etc. So I have resigned myself to them being different.

    I also am not a big fan of Lena, but hey, not everyone is going to agree with every casting decision so that's ok too.

    I actually did go back and read the Harry Potter books after I had seen I think 4 movies. Honestly, I thought the movies were better. While creative, she ain't much of a "writer".

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  222. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    http://www.riversidetheatre.org.uk/pictures/news/

    Is this him? It seems imdb and the other standard sites don't have many or any photos.

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  223. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Found this one as well, best there is :) so far. Great!

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  224. Ashli
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    To Kill a Mockingbird turns 50 today. If there were ever a day for a Littlefinger announcement…

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  225. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Actually, according to HBO's press description of GAME OF THRONES as seen on the website, the Wall in the TV series is 800 feet tall. So it's actually bigger than in the books.

    Cue much ranting and screaming.

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  226. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Oh, yes!
    A perfect day for it!

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  227. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Try Google. Google Images have a ton of images of him.

    Looks like his highest-profile roles to date are as Pope Clement in one episode of THE TUDORS, as Captain Hammond in several of the HORNBLOWER movies and also a recurring role in popular British comedy-drama COLD FEET.

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  228. Posted July 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    I was.
    But after the "accident" with Michelle Fairleys wrong pic, I become a little too cautious with pics.

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  229. JackSparrow
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I was exaggerating, because I thought his complaint was ridiculous (assuming he was being serious; I wasn't convinced that Steel_Wind wasn't being sarcastic himself). Lena describing Cersei as smart seems a small point; Cersei considers herself to be smart, so the actress playing her thinking she is smart is true to the character. It's not going to change Cersei's dialogue or actions. Maybe some fans want Lena to play Cersei by drooling uncontrollably, and constantly looking confused; probably not going to happen.

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  230. Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    That Not-Michelle-Fairley photo is STILL the first Google result (linking back to a Harry Potter forum), so.. yeah. It's definitely understandable.

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  231. Aoede
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    +1 on the intelligence thing. I would say that she's smart, but not wise.

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  232. Kanga
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    FaB, I completely agree. I haven't seen much of her work, but it looks like she just hasn't had the opportunity to play someone really nasty. Personally I wouldn't be at all surprised if she turned out to be an absolutely epic Cersei.

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  233. FeatherySquid
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Reading all the other comments on your post, something just struck me. Everyone keeps saying that actors don't need to read the source material, they get their cues from the director, and thats whats important, blah blah blah…

    But think about this… how many adaptations of books have you watched, whether on TV or film, and said to yourself afterwards "WOW! That was really the most amazing adaption that could possibly have been made, it was so true to the book!" Your answer, like mine, is probably close to zero.

    I realize that there are a LOT of factors that go into making a successful adaption, but hey,maybe if EVERYONE (including producers, directors, actors, and anyone else creatively involved) actually read the source material, there would be a higher success rate.

    I just remember on the DVD features of LotR, people saying that Christopher Lee knew the books inside and out and would actually let Jackson know when something in the script was inconsistent with the books. But I guess that's just his "style" of acting – knowing what the hell is going on.

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  234. FeatherySquid
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    I dont think any of us are upset that she hasn't read the entire series. Whats the name of this TV show? A Game of Thrones. What book is the first season going to be based on? A Game of Thrones. So what do we wish she had read? A Game of Thrones.

    Given that, its ridiculous to suppose she just doesn't want to "taint" her performance with future revelations. She's shooting a TV show based on the first book, so reading the first book isn't going to "taint" her performance.

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  235. Posted July 12, 2010 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    IMO it is a completely false assumption that an "amazing adaptation" must be "true to the book".

    Some things quite simply do not work out on screen as they do on paper. A good example would be Moby Dick – if any on-screen adaptation of that book were to include the the extensive descriptions about whaling in general as the book does, the film would be worse-off. That sort of thing simply does not translate to screen.

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  236. FeatherySquid
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    You seem to think that by "true to the book" i somehow mean it must contain every syllable from the books. I don't.

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  237. Ser_G
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    "It just seems like this another job for her."

    Even if this is true, so what? She's a professional actor. She's been around. She knows that this is a serious project, for which she is being paid a very handsome sum of money. She's being paid that money to do her job. Her job is to give the project 100% while the cameras are rolling.

    Not to be dismissive of the craft (because I sure as hell can't do it), but actors are paid to pretend. Even if she had read the books and absolutely despised them, there's no reason to believe that would get in the way of her performance, or result in an end product that would be any different than if she had signed hardcover copies of the entire series and will squee with unhindered glee when ADWD finally comes out. That squee wouldn't make it on screen, anyway.

    Is it cool when an actor involved with a project enjoys and is really into its source material? Sure. But expecting that to have a substantive effect on their end performance is more than a little naive.

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  238. Posted July 12, 2010 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Of course I don't. I'm saying that, in my example, Herman Melville wrote Moby Dick with dual purposes – a moral tale and an educational work. While they both can work well on film, they just don't work together on film like they do in the book.

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  239. Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I'm waiting for these discussions:

    TV Fan: Did you see what went down last night? HOLY CRAP!!!
    Book Fan: That's not how it really happened.
    TV Fan: Uh…yeah, it did.
    Book Fan: I mean in the books. It's not the way GRRM wrote it.
    TV Fan: Okay, but…it happened. I saw it last night.
    Book Fan: THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT HAPPENED!!!

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  240. paulgude
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    I totally understand that sentiment. I'm drawing a distinction between the people who say:

    "She's not reading the books? How can she not read the books? They're amazing!!!"

    and the people who say:

    "She's not reading the books? Inexcusable!!! She's going to have no idea what she's doing!"

    Two completely different things.

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  241. Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    This is a really good point. If you've read any other interviews with her, she's not shy about throwing her sense of humor around.

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  242. Posted July 12, 2010 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    That's so going to happen. Heh!

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  243. Mormegil
    Posted July 12, 2010 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    And of course Jackson listened to him given how exactly Sarumans role in book and film matched up. Oh wait.

    I can't believe people are getting so angry about an actress not reading a book. Did Batman fans demand Christian Bale read every single Batman comic published before he took on the role? Actually forget that as there probably were people who did.

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  244. Posted July 12, 2010 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    "She does not lack for wits, but she has no judgment, and no patience. "

    Jamie describing Cersei, A Feast for Crows p. 234 (hardcover).

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  245. Kanga
    Posted July 13, 2010 at 4:55 am | Permalink

    I watched Aberdeen today. And I agree, she is fantastic. Cersei in good hands, says I :)

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  246. mistermagpie
    Posted July 13, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    EXACTLY. Lena is an instinctive kind of actress, she uses her intuition. She is using the same strategy she has used to play Sarah Connor. She plays the character as written by the screenwriters and as directed by the director.

    Even though there is a whole series of books out there, the only thing she should base her performance on is what's on the script – at the end of the day, that is what the viewer sees – and not all said vieweres will have read the books either.

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  247. Chrysopoeia
    Posted July 13, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Yes, you nailed it very well. I think it is suggestive that Lena got so many things right about the character just from the pilot script. She seems to have a 'spontaneous' insight into character.

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  248. Letters
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 4:03 am | Permalink

    Just FYI, this wasn't an official sort of interview in any fashion. It wasn't a live chat or anything. The fansite sent Lena some questions, Lena sent the answers back.

    A lot of you are reading WAY too much into her answers. The thing about Lena that you new fans need to get is… she's just an actress. It really is just her job. She doesn't like the press part about it. She isn't insanely into the fandom as the fans are.

    I think she'll do great in this role. But I'm going to reserve all my judgment until I actually *see* her perform. The ones already harping on her, you are being a little premature don't you think?

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  249. Alex
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    Oh for the love of gods, read the book.

    Of course it’s a big deal, its the whole damn deal.

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