Owen Teale cast in Thrones?

Filed Under: Casting, Rumors, Speculation

Owen TealeWhile trawling the web for any interesting Thrones news, I discovered this blog post that indicates that, Welsh actor and Tony award winner, Owen Teale has been cast in Game of Thrones. A Belfast photographer ran into Teale on the streets and asked if he would mind posing for a photograph. During the conversation, Teale mentioned he was in town to work on Thrones. Despite the second-hand nature of this report, I’d say it is pretty solid. Nevertheless, I’m going to file it under rumors for now, but I’ve dropped a line to HBO for official confirmation.

Winter Is Coming: The question is, what role is Teale playing? His age and looks scream Kevan Lannister to me. I’ve mentioned before that I think Kevan will be held back until a later season, so I would be surprised if he has been cast as Kevan. But he looks a lot like I pictured Tywin’s younger brother to look. Other possibilities of characters we know are confirmed to be appearing in season one include Ilyn Payne, Tobho Mott or maybe a recast Illyrio.

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  1. Sara
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Ooh, interesting.

    I’ve seen him in Torchwood, and he was creepy (bordering on terrifying) there, so although he isn’t how I’d picture Ilyn Payne, he could definitley pull that role off for me.

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  2. Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    He has the look of a Greyjoy to me. They haven’t cast Euron yet, have they? He’d be good in that role, I think.

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  3. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    wow, nice find WiC!
    I’d say this is pretty solid too.
    Does he have the Nina Gold connection (or the other firm you suspect she’s been dealing through)?

    I’m right with you on him having the right age & look for Kevan Lannister.

    Other possibilities: a knight in the tournament, a knight of the kingsguard, or a middle-age member of the Night’s Watch…

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  4. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    The high Seption perhaps?

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  5. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Brienne for sure :D

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  6. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    or the Greatjon or Roose Bolton….

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  7. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    According to his IMDB profile, he is 6’2”.

    I’d say the Greatjon is quite possible.

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  8. George
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if he’s a recast. He looks like a Mormont in that pic, or perhaps a nice fit for Gared in the prologue, but those roles are filled. Perhaps someone high up on the Wall, but under the Old Bear, but those roles (and Tobho Mott) seem too small for him.

    I like him for Boros Blount, Meryn Trant, or Mandon Moore.

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  9. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    I guess Kevan and Greatjon are about 50/50. I don’t reaaally see any other parts he could be cast as. He looks more like a Kevan, but Greatjon getting cast in season one seems more likely.

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  10. gene4244
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    He looks like the Blackfish to me

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  11. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    gene4244,

    Blackfish won’t get cast in season one.

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  12. Hear Me Roar
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Sounds solid, this. Not Payne, I’d say … too chubby. Or rather, Payne should be a bony-faced guy, right? waiting impatiently for any official word :)

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  13. durandal
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Thoros of Myr, is he in the first season?

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  14. AbstractPlain
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    I haven’t seen his work, but from looking at that picture, Donal Noye popped into my head. Do we even know if that role will make into season 1?

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  15. Brad
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Shagga?? ;-)

    Greatjon or Kevan maybe.

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  16. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    The more I think about it, the more I think we have our Greatjon.

    They wouldn’t have cast such an award-winning actor for a smaller role. He doesn’t quite fit Roose Bolton’s or Illyrio’s description. And Kevan Lannister’s casting is most likely delayed ’till season 2. In fact, he looks more like Jon Umber than Kevan Lannister to me.

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  17. Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Looks legit, but I can’t even guess which role (he could fit them all). I’d guess the most likely ones to be Kevan Lannister, Roose Bolton, or Thoros (I like that suggestion!).

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  18. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    It says last Thursday (August 12th) was his first day of shooting. Does that help us in any way?

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  19. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Actually, that seems a little early for both Kevan and Greatjon.

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  20. Quiet Wolf
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Obviously we are looking at Rickon. Boys grow up fast on the North

    It is Know.

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  21. Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think they’d get a Tony award winner to play such small roles as Tobho Mott or Illyrio Mopatis but stranger things have happened. Kevan Lannister seems like a good fit.

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  22. Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    My money is on Illyrio (he is a small role, but once they cast McNiece for the role).

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  23. Hilldog
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    wait, when was Illyrio recasted? I thought we were going to be using Ian McNeice?

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  24. SteveThePirate2
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Teale is a fantastic Broadway actor; having him on board would be great. I can see him as Greatjon or as the recast Illyrio, if they couldn’t reschedule for McNiece.

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  25. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Hilldog,

    GRRM mentioned another possible recast due to schedule conflict and when the big cast sheet came out from HBO soon after, it didn’t include Ian McNiece, so we figured that’s the role GRRM was talking about. No confirmation that I know of though.

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  26. Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria: It says last Thursday (August 12th) was his first day of shooting. Does that help us in any way?  Quote  Reply

    Yes it helps. (I hope so)
    Due to that fact he could not be Kevan nor Greatjon nor Bolton.

    He could be Ser Illyn or Thoros or Tobho or Illyrio or Shagga.

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  27. Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Illyrio would be the best fit from what I know of him. Although I’m sure he could handle a lot of the roles.

    OT – Hodor is now taunting us on Twitter –

    KristianNairn: Saw a very beautiful Ghost today I’m pretty sure. :)

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  28. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    I guess it COULD mean he’s been cast as Lord Mormont…. He’d need a lot of make up to look like our Jorah’s father, though…

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  29. silverjaime
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Wasn’t last week when they were doing the Castle Black scenes?

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  30. thewall
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Is it true? Shame if they had to re-cast Illyrio as McNeice is perfect for the role! But I’ll agree, Teale is a good fit for Illyrio, Greatjon or Kevan, but definitely NOT Roose.

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  31. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings: I guess it COULD mean he’s been cast as Lord Mormont…. He’d need a lot of make up to look like our Jorah’s father, though…    

    But Jeor Mormont has already been cast and will be played by James Cosmo…

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  32. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    I know, i guess i should have added recast somewhere. There have been talk of a recast and there might be more, for all we know. Just trying to make the pieces of the puzzle fit.

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  33. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Vohdre: OT – Hodor is now taunting us on Twitter –
    KristianNairn: Saw a very beautiful Ghost today I’m pretty sure.     

    Ghost! I know! How teasing!
    Hodor is also sporting a beard!!!

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  34. Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Grrrr.
    If they recast Cosmo….

    I do not see anybody else in Nightwatch who could be played by Teale.
    Or they decided to include FaB s First builder in the game. (just joking)

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  35. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria: Hodor is also sporting a beard!!!  Quote  Reply

    Weird… I’ve never, ever seen a retarded person with a beard. And i’ve worked on an uh… institute?.. for retarded people.

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  36. durandal
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    I thought they were about to shoot the tourney at KL around this time. That’s why I thought of Thoros. But Kevan, Greatjon, Tobho, Boros, Donal and even the high priest are also possible I guess. Don’t think he has enough chins for Illyrio though. :-)

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  37. Posted August 16, 2010 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    If The Powers That Be at HBO have been swayed by the Oceanic ;) support for the Blackfish and have changed their minds, he’d be a cool Brynden, though a bit young (49?).

    But if he’s Thoros of Myr, he’s PERFECT.

    (perfect = exactly how I imagine him)

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  38. Avalanche3319
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Well they could add scenes for Kevan, Greatjon, or Bolton that would introduce them earlier into the t.v. series than the books, but I can’t see any of them being introduced THIS early. They’re still only shooting the first three episodes right?

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  39. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues,

    He would not be interested in the itty-bitty part of Thoros. At least it’s really small in the first book.

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  40. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Avalanche3319,

    It seems like they’re filming 2-4.

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  41. Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    Unless they’ve heard us, and enlarged the role of Thoros, giving him and Beric something more to do at the Tourney of the Hand to prepare viewers.

    Or unless he knows about the character and is aware he is going to be badass.

    Maybe.

    He’d be a great Kevan too, anyways!

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  42. Brian
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Thoros is a much more interesting role than Kevan Lannister. Book spoilers(Even with his confrontations with Jaime and Cersei in AFFC Kevan is still pretty bland. Thoros arc from drunken fool to spiritually revived freedom fighter to disillusioned outlaw will be very compelling on-screen.)

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  43. Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Looking at the picture the photographer took, I think Kevan is a great choice, but who knows at this point. Way to dig WiC!

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  44. Jodan
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    I can see as as either Thoros or the Greatjon, but if you fit the filming scheadule to him being there he’s more likely to be Greatjon IMO.

    As a few people have already stated, they could be beefing up one of the minor roles with a few extra scenes, if it’s Greatjon it would make sense for Tyrion to be travelling with him on the way to the Wall or stopping at Greatjon’s Estate after the Winterfell feast, also on the way to the Wall.

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  45. Leofric
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    The portrait from the photographer’s blog only shows one of his arms, so obviously he cut off the other in order to play Donal Noye. This fits as I read they are currently filming scenes at Castle Black.

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  46. Brude
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    He’s nowhere near heavy enough for Illyrio who is probably the fattest character in the entire series.

    I’m guessing he’s in as The Greatjon. If so, it means Greatjon might be a slightly more significant role than in the books since this actor has some pedigree.

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  47. Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Edmure. Truth here.

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  48. Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Owen Teale is in great shape, 6’2 perhaps 210-215, here is a pic of him from Legion, he was Will Scarlet in Robin Hood. This guy is a A list character actor, although sometimes he does uncredited work for small parts, such as in King Arthur and apparently Starz “Pillars of the Earth”, as I saw him in last weeks episode. He is to fit for Illyrio, unless they cast against type, so my money is on Payne, Donal or Roose. He likes small intense supporting parts, so those three would meet that criteria, he has the build for them and the swordsmanship and fight training, but he is too superb an actor to waste on a non-speaking role, unless HBO changes Payne from speechless to just a silent type. He might be Greatjon, but I can see him as Roose quite easily, a part in which he would easily become a scene stealer. Donal the smithy is another good choice, but with this actors credentials, I go for:
    1.) Roose Bolton
    2.) Illyne Payne
    3.) Donal Noyce
    4.) Against type casting Illyrio
    5.) Greatjon

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  49. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Petter Kristian Vikestad,

    Edmure is not gonna be in the first season.

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  50. Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t Hodor kicked by a horse or something, and that’s when he became simple? I don’t think he is “retarded” as you put it. I of course could be misremembering this.

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  51. Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    Owen Teale from Legion
    The link didn’t take from my previous post.

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  52. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Our Rast tweets that he’ll be shooting a scene with Tyrion tomorrow!

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  53. Moochin Photoman
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Folks i took the photo and spoke to Owen (after asking his name as i recognised him but didnt know it).
    He is in really good shape.
    He told me that he was getting his bearings of the city and that the next day was to be this first on set, wether or not that means he was filming that day i do not know.
    It’s not a rumour he is over to film
    If i happen to bump into him again i’ll ask him who his character is( i also know a few folks working on it so i’ll see what i can find out but don’t hold your breaths!)

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  54. durandal
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    If they cast him as Ilyn Payne or Roose Bolton I”ll be very disappointed. Those two realy need to be spot on IMO.

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  55. Nymeria
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Moochin Photoman,

    thanks for dropping by. Feel free to share any small bit of info you learn from your contacts involved in the production! We want to know it all!

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  56. SteveThePirate2
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Define spot on? You mean they need to look exactly like they were described in the book? Owen Teale is a great actor, we’re all lucky to have him on the show.

    Thoros is another good suggestion for him.

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  57. jwsnasa
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    durandal: If they cast him as Ilyn Payne or Roose Bolton I”ll be very disappointed. Those two realy need to be spot on IMO.    

    I must agree!! Roose is discribed as a pale, slippery eel. Payne is gaunt, like Michael Berryman. I also think that Teale is too happy looking for either. Great Jon is jovial, but I pictured him more rotund. Donal is great guess.

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  58. jwsnasa
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    jwsnasa,

    Also love the Thoros guess

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  59. Ewan
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    To be honest, having any “name” actor (i.e. someone folk have heard of) as Ilyn Payne would be a waste, and I doubt they’d get them to take it, either.

    Can see Teale as the Greatjon, though I always pictured someone hairier. Roose Bolton’d be OK too.

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  60. sjwenings
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    jwsnasa,

    If they have decided to expand Donals part, it seems to fit. The timing with him on set makes it a little difficult to place his character, but then again – as mentioned – if he’s not there for actual filming, then we’re back to Kevan/Greatjon, i’d say.

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  61. stickboy
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    He’s a good solid actor for this production, has quite a knightly demeanour to him as well. To be honest I’d like him for Mance Rayder.

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  62. Winter Is Coming
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Moochin Photoman,

    Thanks for the info! I don’t doubt your report. We just don’t report anything as “official” until we get word from HBO. :)

    As Nymeria says, let us know anything you might be able to find out about the production. We’re always eager for updates, no matter how small!

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  63. durandal
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    SteveThePirate2,

    Thoros was my first thought when I saw the pic in the post. He Is a good actor. I just don’t see him playing Roose or Ilyn. Specially Ilyn is all about the looks since there’s not much acting involved for that part. If they find someone who looks dark, cold, scary enough and preferably in a very foul mood, they’ve naild it! ;-)

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  64. Posted August 16, 2010 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    That photo on the Photoman s blog – Is it how Teale looks right now?
    I do not see any beard. Hmmmm.
    Maybe he will have artificial one.

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  65. Cirothecarius
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think Teale will play Thoros as I would imagine the producers would cast an actor with a more international accent, rather than a Welsh one, to play the part of someone from Myr.

    Yes, I know good actors can do different accents as parts of their repertoire, but I see him as a more earthy character like Donal Noye. He is a great actor with a lot of experience and if he has limited time available to him to he may only be able to play a relatively small part. I don’t think he is large enough to play the Greatjon and I have always pictured Roose Bolton to be more like Ciaran Hinds with Aidan Turner as Ramsay.

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  66. Posted August 16, 2010 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Cirothecarius,

    Ciaran Hinds as Roose? I can picture that. Unlikely of course, but it’d be pretty cool.

    Of course it’d be weird for him to be the one stabbing the King to death. Robb all “et tu, Roose?”

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  67. Grimtuesday
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    From that picture I say Kevan but I could maybe see Greatjon. My only problem with this is he is a little on the short side to be playing Greatjon.

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  68. Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    I have been researching Teale’s bio and recently he has been taking on more villain roles on stage and screen with Creditors where he is a pyschopathic character and Conspiracy as a Nazi, so he just might be Roose, although Donal would be closer to roles he has played in the past, either way with an actor of his caliber I can see HBO expanding the role. If he is Roose, I wonder if GRRM might decide to give the character a POV in the future or an expanded role, like he talked about giving to Osha after Tena was cast.

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  69. Posted August 16, 2010 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Grimtuesday,

    Didn’t someone say he’s 6’2″? I reckon that’s tall enough; at that height it wouldn’t take too much hollywood magic to make him look like the biggest viking in the room.

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  70. Fire And Blood
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Let’s look a few facts:

    1. If the rumor holds, Owen Teale appears to be shooting a Game of Thrones scene tomorrow.

    2. As per Luke McEwan’s (Rast’s) Twitter page, he will also be shooting a scene tomorrow – with Peter Dinklage!

    3. Rast and Tyrion would only cross paths in the second, third, or fourth episode, and that encounter could only take place at Castle Black … unless they actually shoot the inserted scene I suggested, wherein Benjen and company pick up Yoren and his rapers (one of whom could be Rast) en route to the Wall.

    So if these stars are aligning the way they appear, Teale is playing someone at Castle Black. From his build alone, my guess is he’s either replaced James Cosmo as the Old Bear (I hope not), or they have cast a Castle Black character GRRM has not yet mentioned.

    With that in mind, my guess would be:

    A. Donal Noye. Good fit!
    B. Othor. Perhaps Teale wants to get his zombie on.
    C. Ser Jaremy Rykker. What, Jonathan Frakes wasn’t available?

    D. First Builder Othell Yarwick.

    D:<

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  • Posted August 16, 2010 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    Tomorrow?
    I thought it was Friday the photographer talked about.

    He update the blog on 13th of August and wrote that yesterday he had run into Teale.
    So it must be friday. But from another tweet we know that Night watch on the set, too on Friday.

    Johnatan Frakes :P

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  • Posted August 16, 2010 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    So, the “situation” wutk Teale looks like that :

    A) He was on set on Friday, but that does not mean he was filming: he could be any of the characters everybody mentioned here. (From GreatJon to Illyrio)
    B) He was on set on Friday and his scenes were filmed, that could mean:

    B1)He is one of the Nightwatchers (see FaBs post above) or
    B2)They were filimg that day on two different sets – Nightwatch + set we do not know nothing about.

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  • Alex
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    James Frain would make a great Roose Bolton.

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  • Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    I think it would be a stroke of creativity on the part of casting to give the role of Roose Bolton to Owen Teale, instead of an obvious actor who is known for portraying heavies. The average viewer would then be totally shocked when Roose betrays Robb at the Red Wedding, they would not see it coming.

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  • Lord Ned's Head
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Hmm what about the catspaw?

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  • Fire And Blood
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Yes, perhaps that was just my Othell Yarwick reflex. I read “today” and thought “tomorrow” (when “today” was actually friday). Who knows if Teale was tossed into a scene that was even anywhere near Castle Black?

    However, I think they’re still concentrating on the early season episodes, which means Kevan Lannister is probably out of the question, as well as the Greatjon. Certainly not if Teale has already been shooting.

    I’d amend my earlier guess by saying it was either a Castle Black scene … or a King’s Landing scene. In which case he could possibly be Tobho Mott?

    We know Mott is being cast. We just don’t know who is playing him.

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  • Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Tobho Mott would be such a waste for the fine talent of Owen Teale, I couldn’t imagine an actor of his caliber portraying anyone other than these five.

    1.) Roose Bolton
    2.) Donal Noye
    3.) Illyn Payne (against type)
    4.) Illyrio (against type)
    5.) Greatjon

    The only other option is that a totally new character has been created or that several characters have been merged into one. Teale is a physically imposing actor, perhaps they are combining several of the Kingsguard into one, giving that actor more lines and things to do.

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  • Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Furthermore I couldn’t imagine HBO offering Owen Teale any other role than the big ones, it would be a slap in the face.

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  • Zack
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    Roose Bolton has a FLAYED MAN as his sigil, for goodness sake, and is described throughout the early books as pale and creepy. And in CoK, Ramsay Bolton’s behavior ought to at least put people on their toes about that particular House. I certainly wasn’t *surprised* about Roose’s betrayal. I thought the point of that was supposed to be that we as readers have clues about the character of those guys that Robb isn’t clued in. Casting somebody who will SURPRISE the viewer would go against all of that.

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  • mcguffin1899
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Brian Thompson for Greatjon Umber.

    Tom Hardy would make a great Roose Bolton, but after Inception he’s too big now.

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  • Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    I wasn’t surprised by Roose’s actions either, I am just saying HBO might cast against the grain which I might add they are known to do from time to time when a book is translated to script. I should point out True Blood as an example which has several characters that have been altered from the book to screen.

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  • ShaggyMarco
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Is it possible that they’ve combined Othell Yarwick and Donnal Noye?

    Both are builders, and making the one builder that any main character actually talks to more than once or twice (Donnal) ALSO the most important builder on the wall make keeping track of the Night’s Watch easier for viewers.

    They could be filming a scene where Tyrion attacks Thorne with his crab fork. You could have Donnel there, telling funny stories about Tyrion’s good-brother as a boy, emphasizing that even a low-born smith can rise high on the wall.

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  • Fire And Blood
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    HAH!

    George R. R. Martin has confirmed, in his Not-A-Blog:

    “Your shoes are safe.”

    Meaning I won’t have to eat them.

    Meaning Owen Teale is not First Builder Othell Yarwick.

    Meaning First Builder Othell Yarwick has not been cast, and (oh, happy days) may not be cast. At ALL. EH-VURR.

    I can now rest well.

    Hm, is this news “New Blog Post” worthy?

    Headline: TEALE NOT YARWICK; SHOES LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY

    What. It’s a slow week.

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  • Zack
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    Good point. I wouldn’t be too shocked if that’s the route they end up taking, but it’d be a little disappointing. Anyway, though I’m unfamiliar with Teale’s work, a quick Google image search leads me to think Donal Noye would be a good fit.

    In addition, Hinds is an inspired choice for Bolton. He was one of my favorite actors in Rome, although that was brilliantly acted all around.

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  • Brad
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    I think it would be a stroke of creativity on the part of casting to give the role of Roose Bolton to Owen Teale, instead of an obvious actor who is known for portraying heavies.

    I like this. Roose is one of my favorites, and I’d be very happy if this Owen Teale activity ends up being for the lord of the Dreadfort.

    For what it’s worth, I didn’t think GRRM telegraphed Roose’s treachery.

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  • Posted August 16, 2010 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    mcguffin1899: Tom Hardy would make a great Roose Bolton, but after Inception he’s too big now.  

    I hear you. Last September, after seeing the trailer for Bronson, I wanted Tom Hardy for everything:

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  • nightwisp
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Teale looks familiar. Did he portray a Roman soldier in a movie called Judas several years ago? If so, he is a very talented actor, and Kevan would be a terrific role for him to do!

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  • Tysnow
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    I believe its about time for GRRM to post froggie on his blog, he has been giving us new clues once a week now and tomorrow it will have been one week since the last game. He did mention that he had ALL the casting selections in one of his posts. So I am taking a leap and thinking he plans on announcing like two a week, just to give us something to look forward too for awhile. If this is the case perhaps Owen will be in the next clue game.

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  • my watch begins
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    I’m guessing either the greatjon or Ser Boros Blount.

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  • my watch begins
    Posted August 16, 2010 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    or Donal Noye that seems more reasonable.

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  • Posted August 16, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Moochin Photoman,

    Thanks for the info. It looks like we’ve recruited another spy :)

    (and great photographs too. I spent the afternoon browsing your site)

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  • Hear Me Roar
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 2:49 am | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    I think you misread ‘all’. I took it to mean “what with all the (=this huge number of) castings I will never properly catch up with them”. He’s been behind since HBO’s fact sheet where so many minor role actors were named.

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  • Maester Tcost
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    At this point, the trick is to find a part worthy of an actor like Owen Teale. There aren’t too many of them, given that Ser Kevan is not likely to be in any of the scenes being shot right now. Noye is a possibility, but do we really want Jon Snow having three mentors at Castle Black at this point in the story? I suppose that Noye should be established early on so his story in ASoS means more. And a lesser actor could play Donal Noye.

    Casting against type, Teale could be one of the Kingsguard — any of Blount, Trant, Greenfield, or Moore, especially if, for Season 1, only one of them gets lines and the others are marked down to featured extra status. Likewise, if they are filming scenes with the northern lords, Teale could be good as Roose Bolton or (and here’s my hope) an expanded Rickard Karstark. It might be a good thing if Karstark stood out more in the TV show than he did in the books, particularly early on.

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  • Wastrel
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    I wasn’t surprised by Bolton’s betrayal, but I wasn’t expecting it. I think they need an actor who can seem slimy enough that you believe the betrayal, but NOT so obviously evil that you don’t trust him from the beginning. [same as Petyr]. He has a flayed man on his flag – so you don’t need to have him act like Palpatine to let viewers beware. Toning down the obvious villainy will be the challenge. [And I think Teale could do that]

    Regarding the Kingsguard: I wouldn’t be surprised if they made Moore the chief kingguard and gave him all the lines. He’s got quite a Boba Fett role in the books, which could do with a bit more fleshing out in the series. He’s got massive scenes in both the first two books, and while he doesn’t have to say a lot, I wouldn’t be shocked if they gave the role to a good actor and maybe gave him a few more lines as well. Then again, Teale seems too good for even that, I think.

    [Or, they could go the whole Fett and have him in a helmet all the time with no face visible...]

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  • Gaz
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    Donal is a great shout. He fits the bill. i was disappointed at the gendry casting, dont really match the physical build a blacksmith should have. Teale does, this would be great, and its a fairly big role, one that HBO could always expand on.

    Also agree that im hoping its not Roose.

    Kevan, Greatjon, Thoros id also be ery happy with

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  • Gaz
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    watch the spoilers for new fans!

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  • John Spartan
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Is Vardis Eggen already in the cast?? Otherwise,I think Teale is suitable for this role.

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  • John Spartan
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    ooops… sorry… Breandan McCormack will play Ser Vardis.

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    I believe he’s our Ilyn Payne. Someone’s gotta give Ned the full-service treatment :S Though if he’s our Illyrio, it wouldn’t take much to fatten him up. I’m probably the only person who thinks they are the same person. Everyone in Westeros is a faceless man – or at least Illyrio and Varys are, imho. It is (not really) known.

    Is this production cursed (with all the cast changes), or is this kinda par for film/tv?

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  • Winter Is Coming
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Franny Bee,

    I wouldn’t say cursed necessarily. Merchant seems to be the only one that had to be recast for performance reasons. Ehle left for personal reasons. Those two actresses leaving meant that most of the pilot had to be reshot.

    Since most of the pilot had to be reshot already, it seems they made the decision to reshoot the prologue as well. Therefore, the recasting of three more actors. And now, it sounds like McNiece may be out as well. Not surprising that the four spots that had to be recast due to scheduling were the actors who were only going to be appearing in that one episode.

    So it was really a snowball effect of two main actresses leaving the project that necessitated a lot of reshooting and caused scheduling conflicts for four other cast members.

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  • Lord Ned's Head
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Though I still like my catspaw idea as a darkhorse, I’m gonna go with Donel Noye as my official guess. The guy is definately not a Roose type.

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  • Nymeria
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Moochin Photoman,

    In my excitement over the possible casting news you brought us yesterday, I didn’t take the time to aknowledge your art. But I now took the time to browse your blog. I love your Through the Viewfinder technique and the way you capture people on the street and the everyday life. I hope your recent exposition went well. Keep up the good work!

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  • Nymeria
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    ok, Joseph Campo’s second audition video is priceless

    Notice how Stannis is a shadow, the lightning effect when he mentions Lord Berric, how Mance Rayder appears to be “beyond the wall” thanks to the mirror… lol

    This is good entertainment for us while we wait. Keep ‘em coming man!

    oh, and Hodor! :)

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  • Knurk
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    ehrm, what’s up with you and good old Othell?

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  • Knurk
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    argh, double post. Having some IntenseDebate dejavu’s! Maybe FaBio has blackflagged the word Othell?

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Thanks, and a very merry Hodor to you as well! WIC was awesome to put up my first video, and I’m hoping like hell they’ll put number 2 up as well.

    GameofThronesJoe

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    GameofThronesJoe,

    Out of curiosity, how old are you GameofThronesJoe? You don’t need to answer if that’s going to be part of your epic audition series.

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  • Tysnow
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Great video Joe, I perchance am leaning toward Mance, if though you can’t croon a tune my vote is for Patch the loon, so sing us a song and perhaps along will come Rayder, hopefully sooner than later.

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  • Brian
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    You know, if they are embracing their “successor to Lost” label and doing character flashbacks… I think we could be looking at Lord Randall Tarly. I could totally buy Owen Teale dad to John Bradley-West’s Sam.

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria: ok, Joseph Campo’s second audition video is priceless

    I agree, that was great! :)

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  • sjwenings
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    GameofThronesJoe,

    Wrong vid, but i’m sure WiC can navigate to your second quite easily…

    Is it wrong of me to get the chills watching that second vid? Think i’m trying to be funny, just like Joe? I’m not! I’m just drunk! Dont believe me? …well, i guess theres nothing to be done about that…

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  • OldGran
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    I liked Moochin’s street pics too. And the fact that his one of those “lucky” fellows kissed by fire. He could be a wildling himself.

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  • SteveThePirate2
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    GameofThronesJoe,

    Sorry if anyone’s already asked, but do you belong to the UK actors unions that would permit you to work on the show?

    Okay, and whomever came up with the Randyll Tarly idea, it’s awesome, he totally resembles Bradley-West. I don’t know if they’re casting so early for that though, so Donal Noye is still the best guess, I think.Okay the Randyll Tarly idea is awesome, he totally resembles Bradley-West. I don’t know if they’re casting so early for that though, so Donal Noye is still the best guess, I think.

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  • Nymeria
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Am I the only one who sees everything in bold after Lex’s last comment, including the side bar on the right?

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  • Knurk
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Nope.

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  • sjwenings
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Yes, you are. Put the Daniels down!

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  • winterqueen
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    I have no idea who Owen Teale would play. I could see him as Ser Kevan, Donal Noye or even Mance Rayder.

    I do like the Randyll Tarly suggestion. Maybe they could introduce Randyll Tarly at the Tourney of the Hand? I don’t think he was at the tourney but it wouldn’t be a big deal if he was introduced there. Tarly could have very well been at the tourney but Sansa and Ned just don’t comment on him. We could see what a fine warrior Randyll is and then jump to poor Sam getting beaten at Castle Black. It would be a very telling contrast between father and son.

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  • Winter Is Coming
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria: Am I the only one who sees everything in bold after Lex’s last comment, including the side bar on the right?    

    Well that was a weird bug. I think I fixed it though.

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Yup, everything is bold. Weird.

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  • Nymeria
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming:
    Well that was a weird bug. I think I fixed it though.    

    yes, it looks fine now. Either that or the Daniels lost its effect :)

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    dizzy_34,

    Hi Dizzy. How old do I look?! Maybe I should keep that a secret, as part of the mystery that is…

    GameOfThronesJoe :)

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming:
    Well that was a weird bug. I think I fixed it though.    

    Usually that sort of thing happens when someone opens a bold command and doesn’t close it.

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    SteveThePirate2: GameofThronesJoe,
    Sorry if anyone’s already asked, but do you belong to the UK actors unions that would permit you to work on the show?    

    I’m a member of the Screen Actor’s Guild in the US, so I don’t believe there’s a problem there. Quite a few of the cast in the show would fall into the same category.

    BTW thanks for the quote about me being perky and cute. HA! I feel like a little girl, all over again. :)

    GameOfThronesJoe

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  • SteveThePirate2
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    GameOfThronesJoe,

    How do you know that was me? That could be some other Steve the Pirate who likes Game of Thrones…Heh.

    If you do an audition online for Mance, I expect to see you rockin a rad cape, Joe. :)

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    GameOfThronesJoe,

    You’re gonna make me guess huh? Well since you asked … 25-30 ish? Sorry if you’re younger than that … it’s the beard … people with beards throw me off … especially women that have ‘em.

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    SteveThePirate2,

    Oh yeah. A cloak would be necessary. And I may have to bleed profusely on it, to get into character. :)

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  • Grimtuesday
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    You know what. I still want Joe to play the role of his life… Gilly. Sadly my Joe For Gilly campaign didn’t take off as well as I had hoped so it seems that I must find a different role to champion.

    I think that his best bet is to go for either Davos, Dolorous Edd, or Mance. I don’t think Joe has quite the right look for Beric and I would be willing to bet that they look for a big name actor for Stannis due to the fact that Ned wont be around anymore so that means no more Sean Bean.

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  • SteveThePirate2
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Grimtuesday,

    Gilly is an inspired choice, but who will play the crucial role of the pink mast? Such a grand presence requires its own actor.

    Maybe that could be another audition tape in the making.

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  • nightwisp
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    Another great movie Owen Teale was in was The Last Legion. He would make a cool Davos, in my opinion.

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Well i’m not known for throwing casting suggestions ( i think i’m not known at all lol) but i think that i would be thrilled if Jullian Richings were in this, inicially i wasn’t thinking about anyone in specific but after this tread…what a wonderful Roose Bolton he would be…
    Check it out:

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:10 pm | Permalink
  • OldGran
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Winter, do you know if those Targaryen T-shirts will be available here? They are not on the GRRM site and his t-shirts are shut down for now.

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  • Winter Is Coming
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    OldGran,

    Narwen, the one who designed the shirts and also runs 7kingdoms.ru, said they aren’t for sale currently. Apparently she is waiting to hear back from Parris on whether she is allowed to sell them or not. Hopefully the answer is yes, because I want one!

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  • persephone88
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Jehphg,

    I think with the right aged-out makeup he could be an amazing Walder Frey!

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  • Maxwell James
    Posted August 17, 2010 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    OT: Some predictable news about HBO and streaming video.

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  • Posted August 17, 2010 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Jehphg,

    I’ve often thought of him for parts in this; not just Roose but also Vargo Hoat or Aeron Damphair.

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  • Posted August 18, 2010 at 2:34 am | Permalink

    Tysnow: Great video Joe, I perchance am leaning toward Mance, if though you can’t croon a tune my vote is for Patch the loon, so sing us a song and perhaps along will come Rayder, hopefully sooner than later.    

    Uh, oh, sounds like I may just have to croon a tune… rather soon.

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  • Critical Geek
    Posted August 18, 2010 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    I think Joe would be awesome for Tom o’ sevens. Perhaps Anguy or Lemoncloak. Definitely a Brotherhood man. Might do a darned fine Vargo Hoat or the Kettleblack who ends up confessing his sins. Of the current choices, I’d have to go with Mance. While Berric is the BWB guy, he’s too tragic a part for Joe. I don’t wanna see Joe do tragedy. I wanna see him do manic absurdity.

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  • Posted August 18, 2010 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    Critical Geek,

    I agree. I’m sure Joe may be able to do dramatic or tragic acting as well, but humor and likability seem to come very naturally to him. I can also picture him having lots of chemistry and camaraderie when interacting with other characters. That’s why I can see him in the Night’s Watch or as an outlaw of some kind.

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  • Posted August 18, 2010 at 2:49 am | Permalink

    Also, just wanted to say that I absolutely loved the simple lighting effect when Joe was Dolorous Edd sitting around a campfire!

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  • Posted August 18, 2010 at 4:04 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    Critical, Lex,

    Was actually thinking about Tom O Sevens for a while. And I’d accept it hands down of course, but at the end of the day, the characters I chose were strategic choices in my game of thrones….

    So happy to be getting all this great buzz. Thank you!

    GameOfThronesJoe

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  • Posted August 18, 2010 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    GameofThronesJoe,

    You know if heaven forbid you don’t get onto the actual show, I hope HBO approach you for DVD extras re fan enthusiasm. You’re a great ambassador!

    Cue the Ferrero Rocher ad ;)

    JacMac30 – ps. of course there should be screen shots of all our debates here on WiC too ;)

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  • gene4244
    Posted August 18, 2010 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    On Twitter,
    Luke_McEwan Is watching the mountain that rides fight the hound. I have never seen 2 bigger men.
    Wish I was there

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  • Posted August 18, 2010 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    persephone88,

    Yeah i gues so too! He is just to amazing to be out of this!

    Josh Parker,

    He woul be an amazing Vargo Hoat.

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  • Moochin Photoman
    Posted August 18, 2010 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Thanks Nymeria the exhibition was a success and i’m lining a few more on a similar theme of diversity up for the next year.
    Thanks for taking the time to go through my blog and your kind words.

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  • Moochin Photoman
    Posted August 18, 2010 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    OldGran,

    I don’t know what you mean but i think i’ll take it as a compliment :-)

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