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Greenhands & Hot Pie … and more!

Filed Under: Casting

Somewhere between catching his breath and heading off to Ireland, GRRM has managed to throw us a few more bones–though he has dispensed with the clues for now and is giving it to us straight. In his latest Not A Blog entry, George says:

The part of Hot Pie will be played by a newcomer named BEN HAWKEY. And as Lommy Greenhands, we will have EROS VLAHOS, best known for his role in the “Nanny McPhee” movies.

(That’s Eros, there on the right, choking himself out, apparently.)

(No pics of Ben Hawkey as yet. And I doubt we’ll find one of him displaying the same high level of necessary self-correction that Eros is showing.)

UPDATE by HmR: George has updated his post with a photo of Ben Hawkey (left). FaB was right, no self-correction there. Then again, he’s the more likeable of the two.

George goes on to mention a few more roles:

We’ve very close to naming actors for the roles of Stiv and Ser Meryn Trant, waiting only HBO approval, and Nina and D&D have been looking at Kevan Lannisters as well. Soon, I think…

Fire And Blood: The casting count goes higher, and we dance a gleeful jig. Many people have believed for a while now that Ser Kevan is necessary–and it looks like we’re getting our wishes. Interesting that Ser Meryn Trant is the kingsguard they chose as a named role; we can speculate what that means, exactly, but all you have to do is see Lommy and Hot Pie to know that they’re already plotting for a second season. Bloody well right.

Finally, yes, Stiv is necessary, and I’m glad he’s here. You can’t introduce Osha without Stiv.

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  1. Hear Me Roar
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:36 am | Permalink

    Oh boy oh boy oh boy! hehe :) What I take away from this announcement first and foremost is the expanding number of roles to be cast. We can expect quite a few more now on the top of the 70 we already have :P

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  2. Grinbomb
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:40 am | Permalink

    I’m happiest about hearing them getting someone for Ser Kevan it will help with letting things flow nicely into season two. Now if they just decide to cast one or two more northern lords for the end of this season we’ll be set.

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  3. Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    HOT PIE!!!

    Well, it was already pretty obvious before, but it’s now clear beyond a doubt how they plan to end Arya’s Season 1 story arc.

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  4. Putter
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Great news! I guess I always imagined Lommy a bit older, but maybe I should read more closely. He seems to have the right look I was thinking of though.

    Now once they cast Jeyne Poole, I will be happy :D

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  5. Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    Putter,

    Lommy does look a bit young, though, now that you mention it…

    Lommy-gate! That was quick. :)

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  6. rtm1981
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:04 am | Permalink

    Regardig Ser Meryn Trant. Isn’t he the on that cuts off a slice Tyrion’s face? If that’s the case, they could hardly leave him out :P

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  7. jaqhen
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:06 am | Permalink

    Does that mean they are casting Jaqhen Hagar and his two companions too? (Or do they have him already?)

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  8. Grimtuesday
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    rtm1981,

    No that was Mandon Moore.

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  9. Fire And Blood
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    Putter & Lex,

    The Nanny McPhee role from which the above picture was taken was filmed over a year ago. He has grown a bit since:

    Here’s Eros’s website.

    Dude’s a comedian. Who knew?

    Looks like Lommy will be yielding and making us laugh. And then yielding some more.

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  10. rtm1981
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:26 am | Permalink

    Grimtuesday: rtm1981, No that was Mandon Moore.  Quote  Reply

    Ahhh. yeah, you are very correct :)

    jaqhen: Does that mean they are casting Jaqhen Hagar and his two companions too? (Or do they have him already?)  Quote  Reply

    I’m hoping for someone really good for Jaqhen.. One of my favorite characters that one :)

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  11. Grimtuesday
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:43 am | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    Annnd getting a spear straight through the throat after yielding.

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  12. Fire And Blood
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:06 am | Permalink

    Grimtuesday,

    That too!

    Eros may even make that funny. What, it could be funny.

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  13. Liesie
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:27 am | Permalink

    No Walder Frey again =( I’m really starting to believe they’ll introduce him in season 2

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  14. Putter
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:30 am | Permalink

    Oh no! I didn’t mean to start a -gate! I just imagined him older, but that might have been me glossing over the facts. Its no big deal though for me, I have loved everything else I have seen before, and I don’t think I will start questioning them now (though I still do love Ehle and want to be filled in on that situation, because she was PERFECT, not that Fairley doesnt look great) with their casting of Lommy :P

    Heck after I saw Daenerys’ hair, and how not lame it looked, I don’t see how they can mess up. If there was one thing I was worried about, it was making that look appropriate, and they blew me away.

    So ya, no -gate here, just different than I imagined. :D

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  15. Grimtuesday
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    That will be a challenge that I would love to see succeed. funny deaths are the best!

    I have come to the conclusion that one should never yield in Westeros, it always ends badly.

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  16. Avalanche3319
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:00 am | Permalink

    Liesie: No Walder Frey again =( I’m really starting to believe they’ll introduce him in season 2  Quote  Reply

    Actually this news makes me more hopeful for Walder Frey and Roose Bolton. We didn’t hear any rumors about Hot Pie until today when his casting was announced. And we now know they’re casting Kevan, who IMO is less important to season one than either Walder Frey or Roose Bolton. Still no guarantees but I’m feeling more confident now than I did before these announcements.

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  17. Crotalidian
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:01 am | Permalink

    Ser Meryn…. Accompanied Robert up to Winterfell, Fought in the Tourney and Fights (and kills?) Syrio Forel while Chasing Arya. Of all the Kingsguard (save Jaime and Ser Barristan) has the biggest part in aGoT so makes sense for him to be named and cast, rest can wait until aCoK for appearances but may need to be mentioned and discussed for future appearances.

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  18. Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Philip Glenister for Kevan Lannister! :) I know there’s 17 years difference between Charles Dance and Philip but I just think he’d make a good Kevan.

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  19. Shinyteapot
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Jackie MacPherson: Philip Glenister for Kevan Lannister! I know there’s 17 years difference between Charles Dance and Philip but I just think he’d make a good Kevan.    

    Hm, nice idea but I’m not sure about it- however his brother Robert would fit the role very well!

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  20. Crotalidian
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:58 am | Permalink

    Ben Hawkey digging…

    Looks like He is (was?) a student at the Arnould School of Dance and Drama and got a special mention for his lead role in a youth theatre Production at A Michael Caine Drama Festival this year.

    No Images on School website although it looks like they manage some of their students.

    The School is based in Surbiton England. Thats all I have so far (not a hard one to find out, but hopefully someone can use this and get hold of a picture eventually!

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  21. Brude
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    If the Dragon Gate or Lions Gate in King’s Landing doesn’t look quite right does that mean we’ll have Gate-gate?

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  22. JDP
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    ^^ Looking forward to Pate-gate myself… :-)

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  23. Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Putter: Oh no! I didn’t mean to start a -gate! I just imagined him older, but that might have been me glossing over the facts.

    Lommy-Gate, lol!

    Yeah, I imagined him a bit older too ;-) but could be I got his age wrong as well when reading. But after all, they’re just kids you know – that’s the most important thing.
    However, I don’t think age is too important for Lommy as long as he is as juvenile, nasty and yield-y as described. I think watching Arya beat him with that wooden stick will be fun to watch. With Eros being a Stand-Up Comedian I think he should be able pull off Lommy Greenhands’ character quite fittingly. *thumbs up*

    Curious about Hot Pie – he should look somewhat like a babyish pansy.

    Having Meryn Trant in season one seems reasonable to me too. We need to have one of the not so bright members (who would of course be Cersei’s creatures) of the kingsguard there as well, just to see that a knight isn’t always as knightly as one might expect. And of course the Syrio scene is essential.
    Greenfield or Swann are except for their gruesome deaths not so very important, I believe. We only need to see them.

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  24. Winter Is Coming
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    So glad that George is back, giving us casting news in the middle of the night! Lommy seemed the likeliest role for Vlahos, so not surprised that we were correct. And we have a Hot Pie too! And more to come!

    Very surprised that they are casting Kevan. If they are casting someone with as little importance and screen time (in AGOT anyway) as Kevan, surely they will be casting a Roose and a Walder, right?

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  25. Smith
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    First a month in Australia, now Ireland? I’ve come to accept this series will never be completed by its creator. I still love it though.

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  26. Zack
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    Absolutely love that Lommy pic! Looks about the right age to me, I was picturing someone in the 14-16 area. Looks to be perfect casting.

    I’m happy as well that this seems to indicate we’ll see a proper conclusion to the Arya storyline for the season to set up her season 2 journey.

    Also, I am in agreement with the folks opining that Roose and Cranky Walder are more important than Kevan, which gives me hope that we’ll hear news on that front before long.

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  27. Tysnow
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    At long last more casting news. The news about Kevan is awesome, and they have to find the actors for both he and Stiv as the shooting block for the episodes they appear in are fast approaching, I assume they will first appear in either episode seven or eight. I believe they are waiting on announcing Walder Frey to see if Roy Dotrice’s health improves so they can offer him the role. I still want an announcement for Jeyne though and it’ great to know Hot Pie and (to young?) Lommy are now cast.

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  28. Shinyteapot
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    I’d be surprised if Jeyne hasn’t already been cast, though I wonder why she hasn’t been announced if that’s the case? The tourney has been filmed, Jeyne should be sitting with Sansa daydreaming about Loras.

    I hate to say it, but I think the importance of Roose Bolton and Walder Frey make them less likely to be cast in series 1- there’s a fair chance they’ll be kept for series 2 so bigger name actors can be hired without having to pay them for more than necessary. Kevan is a useful character but probably less of a draw for a big name.

    Given the choice, I’d rather have Roose in series 1 than the Late Lord Frey- much as I’d hate to lose Catelyn’s negotiation scene, it is only one scene and very easy to get around if necessary. Ideally of course I’d like both, but it may not be realistic.

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  29. persephone88
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    The band of boys for the Wall is rounding up nicely. I think everyone is anxious to see who will play Walder Frey and Roose Bolton. It’s funny how in only two scenes Lord Walder makes such a huge impression – he’s a character actor’s dream. Hoping they get someone who can do the cackling, snivelling, crafty old wretch justice onscreen!

    And since Kevan is also being looked at, I am hoping they are looking carefully for their Jaqen for next season – he is such a favorite. Someone young, handsome and clever for such a tricky part. It would be great if they cast that role before the first season is done…

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  30. OhDanyBoy
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    This is fantastic news! I am now 100% certain we will see a Walder Frey, and about 99% certain we’ll see a Roose. If they are casting Lommy and Hot Pie (who could really be unnamed kids for AGoT, and are really 2nd season characters) I think they are not hesitating over hiring long term roles.

    Actually, I was fairly certain of this when Gendry was cast. He really doesn’t need any lines in the first season, if they just wanted to show him to Ned so we could see his Roberty looks.

    Seems like they are operating under a multi-season assumption!

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  31. Posted October 5, 2010 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I bet we don’t get Jaqen H’ghar, Rorge, and Biter. We may see the wagon that they are in but not them. Cool news about the Keven Lannister confirmation. Just need that Frey confirmation.

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  32. Posted October 5, 2010 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Shinyteapot: I’d be surprised if Jeyne hasn’t already been cast, though I wonder why she hasn’t been announced if that’s the case? The tourney has been filmed, Jeyne should be sitting with Sansa daydreaming about Loras. .  Quote  Reply

    I’m really not sure if we are getting a Jayne (as a talking character anyway). She isn’t seen in the shot (from the behind the scenes video) of Sansa at the Tourney but then she isn’t there for that bit of the scene (Littlefinger talking to Sansa) in the book either. However the fact that (unlike the book) Arya is at the Tourney I have a feeling the scene will be a bit different with Sansa gushing about the Young Knights (Loras especially) and Arya rolling her eyes rather than both Sansa and Jayne gushing.

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  33. Brad
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    HOT PIE!! Somehow this particular casting news really shows the quality of this adaptation is going to be.. It’s including the strands of GRRM’s written work to a very gratifying degree..!

    Willem Dafoe, Brad Dourif or Jeremy Irons for Roose in seasons 2+

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  34. Posted October 5, 2010 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    Grimtuesday: Fire And Blood, That will be a challenge that I would love to see succeed. funny deaths are the best! I have come to the conclusion that one should never yield in Westeros, it always ends badly.  Quote  Reply

    When I read that part with Lomey getting speared in the throat it was a real “oh, crap” moment for me. Cause it showed the gold cloaks weren’t messing and that Arya better get the hell out of there. So guess I didn’t read it as a funny death.

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  35. Mickey D
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    The casting news is great, but i really wish he’d give us something on adwd… not that i think he’s worked on it in the last two months, but just the same – some clue as to where he is, perhaps an outside guess as to how many more months (i’d even settle for a guess as to years, as long as it’s heartfelt)…

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  36. Posted October 5, 2010 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Erm, WiC “choked out” means something I think (hope?!) you did not intend to imply!

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  37. Posted October 5, 2010 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Great news!

    Good thing GRRM didn’t bother with clues since Eros Vlahos already leaked that he was shooting “a bit” in Game of Thrones last Friday on twitter, so we would have made 1+1 quite easily.

    I don’t remember the age range on the casting side for Lommy, but since Eros Vlahos is quite the little prodigy, he might have blown them away to the point where the casting directors didn’t mind his age at all, as long as he’s not an adult.
    And I can’t wait to see Arya kick his little bully ass!

    I’m with dizzy_34 on thinking we don’t get Jaqen H’ghar, Rorge, and Biter until s2.

    I also agree with Mormegil that it seems, according to the screen capture, we might not get a Jeyne Poole until the end of s3 (or s4, if they spread SOS over 2 seasons). If so, i find this cut logial and minor, so I won’t complain.

    And lastly, I agree with Shinyteapot that Roose Bolton and Walder Frey are perfect targets for big name actors and for that reason, it’s still quite possible they won’t appear until s2. Either that, or, like Tysnow said, they’re waiting as long as they can to cast Walder Frey in the hope that Roy Dotrice gets better in time to take the role.

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  38. Posted October 5, 2010 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Lex: Putter, Lommy does look a bit young, though, now that you mention it…Lommy-gate! That was quick.   Quote  Reply

    The actor is 15 I believe though looks a lot younger. In the Book Lommy is at least 2 years older than Arya and is younger than Gendry so meant to be about 11-13 I would think.

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  39. Posted October 5, 2010 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    HOT PIE!

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  40. Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Off topic. I Tweeted @Sky_TV_Guide today and asked if Game of Thrones would be airing in the same week as the US air date. The response was “We’ll see…” So..um.. not a no but fingers crossed it’s a yes.

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  41. Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    I think Lommy looks perfect.

    Ser Kevan! Yay! I recently re-read the scene that introduces him and was lamenting that it would likely not include him in the series. I’m glad he’s being kept.

    Now what about Roose and Walder, dammit!

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  42. gofalcons
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Grimtuesday: Fire And Blood,

    I have come to the conclusion that one should never yield in Westeros, it always ends badly.    

    Actually I have come to the conclusion that one should never live in Westeros, it always ends badly.

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  43. gofalcons
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    userj: Erm, WiC “choked out” means something I think (hope?!) you did not intend to imply!    

    Perfect description of the little wanker, I think.

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  44. Reupel
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Since they skip the blackfish and the whole Tully-story-arc, I suppose they will also push Walder Frey to season 2.

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  45. blackear
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Thats the worst casting they could have done for Lommy! How hard is it to find an actor with green hands. Now HBO will have to fake it somehow and I know they will choose the wrong shade of green for that time period as only certain dyes where available.

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  46. Mickey D
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    blackear,

    lmfao… thanks, i needed a laugh right about now….

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  47. Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Brad,

    Yeah, I am 100% with you on Brad Dourif for Roose Bolton! Willem would be fantastic, but is probably too expensive for HBO (never know!) Jeremy Irons…ah…I think he would make a much better Blackfish, to be honest!

    I have been racking my brain trying to think of a good person to portray Jaquen H’ghar. Still have my fingers crossed that we’ll at least see a peek of him this season (especially since we know we’ll see Hot Pie and Lommy.) I have always thought Jaquen would be a very Johnny Depp-esque role…

    Any other suggestions from folks? I want more speculation :)

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  48. Angelus
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    I used to enjoy coming to this site, but now there are way too many ads. Don’t be such a sellout!

    I am now boycotting this site because of that.

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  49. Brude
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see how Walder Frey can be skipped. The whole deal between him and Catelyn happens so that Robb can cross the Green Fork and fight Jaime at Whispering Wood. It sets up so many events later, but if we hold off on him until Season 2, his importance isn’t made so clear. Yes, It’s another big set to build for only a single scene in Season 1, but the set will come back again and it’s a key location for one of the most important events in the series, so far, the Red Wedding. From a storytelling perspective, I think it HAS to happen in Season 1.

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  50. Posted October 5, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    There’s two problems with Brad Dourif to me. He’s a great actor but, one: we already have Bean from LOTR if Dourif is playing another creepy dude it makes it seem like they’re really trying to be LOTR and two: there’s the whole he’s american thing to get around.

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  51. Putter
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria: I also agree with Mormegil that it seems, according to the screen capture, we might not get a Jeyne Poole until the end of s3 (or s4, if they spread SOS over 2 seasons). If so, i find this cut logial and minor, so I won’t complain.

    But then any significance of Jeyne being the fake Arya would be lost on the entire storyline. Not that we are even sure thats what even happens to her, but if it was, we would almost definitely need to see her in season 1. Just suddenly throwing her in there, and having everyone recognize her would be quite the shock.

    I guess that is one of the challenges of the role, finding someone who is willing to shoot for season 1, maybe a bit of season 2, and then not being seen until season 4 or 5 at the earliest. Its like trying to find someone who is older, but trying to make sure they are healthy enough not to croack mid-series.

    Perhaps the lack of casting a Jeyne is just an indication that GRRM has told them she is not fake Arya.

    But who knows, she simply could be cast already, and not announced like Myrcella, Tommen, and Rickon weren’t until they had already been shooting for an allotted amount of time. I mean the ONLY shot of Sansa we have seen is the one where she is talking to Littlefinger, and as noted, that is a scene Jeyne is not in, and there is no reason to think we would see her anywhere but next to Sansa.

    I just think it will be hard to show Sansa’s love of court without a friend to gossip about it with, and she doesn’t seem like the type to prattle on to Arya if all she is doing is rolling her eyes in disgust, to me anyway.

    Ok, rambling over :P

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  52. Posted October 5, 2010 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    They can choose between 2 points to end Robb s storyline in S1 IMO:

    - one is Robb s meet up with Cat at Moat Caillin (that means Bolton is probably in, Frey is out, and you need NCW only for one episode in S2).
    And there is also problem in lack of Frey because of future events, Brude mentioned above.

    other is Whispering Wood – the end of the battle (Frey and Jaime are in, Bolton probably, and there is no Tullys).
    You can proclaime the King of the North right here on the place or postponed it to the S2.

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  53. Posted October 5, 2010 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Jackie MacPherson: Off topic. I Tweeted @Sky_TV_Guide today and asked if Game of Thrones would be airing in the same week as the US air date. The response was “We’ll see…” So..um.. not a no but fingers crossed it’s a yes.  Quote  Reply

    Sky are supposed to be showing it some time in April (on their new channel Sky Atlantic).

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  54. the goat
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    SPOILERS!

    “Carry him, he says,” he muttered, chuckling.

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  55. Maxwell James
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Brude,

    Here’s how I think they can do it:

    Make the Twins important to a different battle – one that would occur in season 2, rather than season 1. You can do this because TV audiences don’t care about geographical accuracy, which is what the original episode at the Twins really hinges on. Robb can still sneak up on Jaime’s host by splitting up his army for a diversion – it just takes place along a different (probably unspecified) route.

    By doing this, the producers would not only ensure that Walder Frey is played by an appropriately big-name actor and the set is all it can be, but they also get to enhance Robb’s role and story arc in season 2. He goes from entering a marriage alliance in the first episode to breaking it dramatically in the last.

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  56. Chris
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    I hope they would go with the second, I think it’s important to end Robb’s storyline with both the King in the North and Whispering Woods having happened. Technically, I think the Whispering Woods happens before That Thing With Ned, so the King in the North thing probably wouldn’t make sense… but they can definitely rearrange the story a bit… maybe Whispering Woods can happen after That Thing With Ned and have a nice revenge-fueled battle in the last episode.

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  57. Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Chris,

    This is a good point. I completely forgot about it.
    Yes, there must be the “King of the North” AFTER “Baelor steps”.

    But “Baelors steps” are not necessary for Whispering Wood, IMHO.
    They are all ready in open war, with the Ned s capture.

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  58. Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Could someone please add the spoiler tag to my whole post. Something happened while I was posting.

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  59. OldGran
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Stella Maris,

    I always saw Jaquen H’ghar as somewhat reggae-ish, with a mutable factor.

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  60. Lior
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    They probably want Lommie and Hot Pie to appear for scenes in King’s Landing.

    My guess is that they will flesh out more of Arya’s travails in the gutters after Ned is arrested. The “economy of characters” that TV and film must have and book’s don’t dictates that it’s better for some of the people she meets be named characters who return later than one-offs who will be forgotten. So the bread she steals will be from Hot Pie’s bakery, and she will cross paths with Lommie and perhaps also Gendry. This doesn’t mean there will be later mutual recognition — but the viewers will find it easier to keep track of the characters.

    I don’t think they will film the journey with Yoren in season 1. Instead, these characters will return in season 2 for the journey North.

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  61. Chris
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Lior,

    I could definitely see that, though it would seem awfully convenient to have the few people Arya interacts with in all of the over-crowded Flea’s Bottom be the same people snatched up by Yoren. Not saying that means its not likely or anything, but that would be my first thought if I saw that.

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  62. Chris
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Chris,

    Actually I think I read what was said wrong, I think you were saying they may just briefly encounter each other… not necessarily “know” and interact with each other…

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  63. tek
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Angelus,

    firefox and adblock plus are your friend

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  64. Posted October 5, 2010 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Lior,

    And to pursue your idea, Yoren could catch a glimpse of Arya running off with Hot Pie’s bread when he arrives to “collect” HotPie for the wall, then follow her up to Bealor’s steps

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  65. Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    HOT PIE!!!

    Good to see we have the most important character in the series cast.

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  66. Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Hans Matheson for Jaqen H’Ghar! He’s like a poor man’s Depp anyway.

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  67. Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Wait!

    WiC, you put up spot for Jeyne Poole in your cast page. So that means there was a confirmation for the role being cast for season 1 at some point?

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  68. Fire And Blood
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s an easy thing to establish Lommy and Hot Pie (even Gendry perhaps, though I’m guessing not) with Arya in Flea Bottom, and then perhaps have all three go to Baelor’s sept amidst the commotion. Like why wouldn’t they? It’s a commotion!

    Yoren then gets to snatch all of ‘em up at the same time.

    The only major issue here is that Lommy and Hot Pie would likely know Arya’s gender. Unless she’s already practicing being a boy.

    As to Robb … I agree with Maxwell James. You can fudge geography just a bit if you really want to move the encounter at the Twins over to season two while still having the battle at Whispering Woods. I wouldn’t just gloss over that first all-important meeting between Catelyn and Walder. It’s too good of a scene and Walder Frey is too iconic.

    While I would love “The King in the North!” to be in season one, I’d be willing to have that as a juicy season two tidbit, so long as they have something for Robb to do other than gather his forces. End Robb and Catelyn’s season one arc with the capture of Jaime Lannister? Good enough for me.

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  69. Winter Is Coming
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria, we had received word that she was to be cast from an in-the-know source. I guess it is possible that things could have changed since then, but I’m guessing she is already cast and they just haven’t announced it yet.

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  70. Fire And Blood
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    One of our little birds told us the character of Jeyne Poole had a stand-in during the filming of the pilot. So either that means she still has yet to be cast, or they’ve decided to go in a different direction after-the-fact and not cast her.

    But as of today, we still think she’s on the list to be filled.

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  71. Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Fire And Blood,

    Thanks for the clarification!

    So I guess the speculation on Jeyne Poole can continue…

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  72. Angelus
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    tek: Angelus,
    firefox and adblock plus are your friend    

    Holy crap, this is awesome. Thanks so much!

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  73. Brad
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    dizzy_34,

    Yeah, I had forgotten Dourif played Wormtongue.. :P As big a genre fan as I am, I don’t think I’ve watched Jackson’s LoTR movies since they came out. I guess you’re right that we wouldn’t want to remind viewers of those movies with parallel cast members. For me Dourif will always be identified with his excellent, unhinged work as mentat Pieter DeVries in Dune (I’m dating myself here).

    Stella Maris,

    Willem Dafoe has always been my 1st choice for Roose.. I think he has always been my mental image of the dread Lord Bolton from my first read of AGoT.

    Jeremy Irons would be a bit less of a fit, for sure. I do like your idea of featuring Irons– or an actor of similar presence– as the Blackfish.

    Ted “the nuge” Nugent for Vargo Hoat

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  74. Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Brad,

    Dating myself here …(and OT, sorry) but Billy Bibit from One flew over the cuckoo’s nest was my favorite performance of his. Really heart breaking.

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  75. Posted October 5, 2010 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Concerning Roose Bolton, i really hope they find an actor with the right voice. I always imagine he would sound like the Godfather.

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  76. gofalcons
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Dourif is still my top choice for Craster. And the LOTR connection won’t be a problem since Ned is dead before we see Craster in season 2.

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  77. Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    I also wonder about Beric Dondarrian if they’re going to introduce Lomey and Hotpie.

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  78. Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Joseph Campo for Lord Beric!

    http://www.youtube.com/gameofthronesjoe

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  79. OhDanyBoy
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    Besides him being a fan – I actually think he has the exact look I imagined Beric having. So that would be great.

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  80. Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Now all we need (besides the major players already mentioned) is Moonboy! Because you know we need to have the third in the Cersi shtupping tri-fecta. However I guess we don’t have official Kettleblack’s yet.

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  81. Posted October 5, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Chud
    has a set visit article with photos of Your Highness’ set. A brief and funny mention of GOT.

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  82. Liesie
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Avalanche3319,

    Thank you, you gave me some hope again =) You reversed my line of thoughts, since I was actually thinking something like this: ‘oh no grrm told us they are casting Stiv and ser Meryn why doesn’t he tell us they’re casting Walder (or Roose for that matter)…. aarggh he probably didn’t tell us, because they aren’t being cast until season two.’

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  83. shadd
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    OldGran,

    I always saw Jaquen H’ghar as somewhat reggae-ish, with a mutable factor.

    I guess it is to much to hope for Gary Oldman? :D

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  84. Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria: Concerning Roose Bolton, i really hope they find an actor with the right voice. I always imagine he would sound like the Godfather.    

    How about Michael Wincott? He has a terrifying voice, and can be pretty menacing. Also, Peter Greene: http://mysite.verizon.net/reswlg80/petergreenesfansite/id5.html

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  85. winterqueen
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    What about casting Podrick Payne? I thougth for sure we would see Ser Kevan and Podrick in S2, but it seems HBO has other ideas. I am so happy we are getting Ser Kevan in S1, can’t wait to see who they cast. Maybe there is hope for my favorite squire, Pod?

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  86. izakmo
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    No photo of Ben Hawkey yet?

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  87. Snowfell
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker: Hans Matheson for Jaqen H’Ghar! He’s like a poor man’s Depp anyway.

    What a good suggestion! It would be nice to see Matheson on GoT, and Jaqen could be a fitting character. Anyways, as someone said above I suppose we won’t see Jaqen before season 2. At most we’ll see the carriage, but not the insides. That’s where I think Arya’s first season arc will end, in the beginning of the road.

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  88. OldGran
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    shadd,

    I was thinking of someone of indeterminate race, kind of like Vin Diesel, also indeterminate age and kind of dangerous.

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  89. Posted October 5, 2010 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    GRRM has posted a picture of Ben Hawkey! Not quite how I pictured Hot Pie… but oh well, not a big deal to me!

    Incidentally, seeing Brad Dourif’s name mentioned in this thread, I’ve been saying BRAD DOURIF FOR CRASTER since last year.

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  90. Tek
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Angelus,

    no problem. a friend showed me that the other day and i couldnt believe how awesome the internet was after that.

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  91. Zack
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    I always pictured Syrio and Jaqen H’gar with the same basic build as well as accent, considering their similar professions, skillsets, and especially nationalities.

    Maybe that was just me though…

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  92. Zack
    Posted October 5, 2010 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    I suppose both being Braavosi doesn’t necessarily mean same ethnicity any more than there is a single “American ethnicity” though. I’ll be fine no matter the route they choose with Jaqen I’m sure.

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  93. Rahne
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 1:54 am | Permalink

    GRRM posted a pic of Ben Hawkey on his Not A Blog. Looks nice.

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  94. Grimtuesday
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 3:45 am | Permalink

    By the Nine Divines, that that kid is Hot Pie!

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  95. Posted October 6, 2010 at 3:50 am | Permalink

    Stella Maris,

    What about Billy Crudup?

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  96. blood
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 4:47 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    Jaqen H’gar is from Lorath, not Braavos. The faceless man behind Jaqen’s face might be from anywhere originally.

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  97. Rimshot
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    dizzy_34: Chudhas a set visit article with photos of Your Highness’ set. A brief and funny mention of GOT.  Quote  Reply

    Thanks for the link!

    I worked for a couple of weeks on ‘Your Highness’ during the summer of 2009. For ages there has only been one photo and hardly any news (believe me I looked!) so it’s great that the publicity machine has finaly been turned on. Sounds like we might even get a trailer soon!

    If anyone is interested, I played one of the Evil Leezar’s (played by Justin Theroux) minions, complete with green tunic & cowl and yellow tights!!. It was great fun working on the set, especially when I was killed by Natalie Portman! She cut off my arm and cleaved my head in!

    ahhh memories!

    Can’t wait to see how it turns out.

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  98. Posted October 6, 2010 at 6:42 am | Permalink

    Rimshot: especially when I was killed by Natalie Portman! She cut off my arm and cleaved my head in!.  Quote  Reply

    Not many people can claim that :)

    Now we have a pic can anyone confirm if our Ben Hawkey is the one on IMDB who was in The Kid (along with Alfie Allen).
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3444954/

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  99. Posted October 6, 2010 at 6:42 am | Permalink

    Sandra Gomes,

    After thinking about it for a while, I really think Jaquen should be younger. He’s described as being slender and fine featured, with half his hair red and the other half white. I have always had this idea in my head that he is in his thirties or so and I like the idea of him being really attractive (adds to his intrigue, I think.)

    So…. I’m going to have to say my heart’s desire would be to have CILLIAN MURPHY as Jaquen H’ghar. This is partly because I think he’d really suit the role (and I definitely want to see him in GoT somewhere), and partly because I get the vapors every time I think about the man…. ;)

    ————————————————————————————————-

    Oh, and one other thing! WiC, I think the twitter sign-in verification is broken or something. I haven’t been able to use it for a few days and I get this message:

    Woah there!

    This page is no longer valid. It looks like someone already used the token information you provided. Please return to the site that sent you to this page and try again … it was probably an honest mistake.

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  100. Shinyteapot
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    I have to say I was rather impressed by Eoin Macken when watching last weekend’s Merlin episode- not just because he’s rather nice to look at- good actor and he brought a subtle air of mystery to the character really well, without seeming unrealistic (at least any more so than the rest of that series). Would love to see him in GoT.

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  101. coltaine777
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    Stella Maris,

    Cillian Murphy would be my number one choice too…could also see him as the lightning lord too…

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  102. Martin
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    Shinyteapot: I have to say I was rather impressed by Eoin Macken when watching last weekend’s Merlin episode- not just because he’s rather nice to look at- good actor and he brought a subtle air of mystery to the character really well, without seeming unrealistic (at least any more so than the rest of that series). Would love to see him in GoT.  Quote  Reply

    He’s also a local boy too.

    Martin

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  103. Posted October 6, 2010 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Interesting, given these pics, I would have swapped the two. I always thought Hot Pie was a very small kid and Lommy was the big (literally) bully.

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  104. Zack
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    blood,

    Thank you for the correction. It’s frustrating to realize I’ve had misconceptions like that the whole experience, which is another reason I’m glad to post here among the long-time fans.

    I’ll echo the sentiment that Cillian Murphy would be a great addition to the cast. I could buy him as the assassin type of Jaqen fairly easily.

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  105. Crotalidian
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    I Could go with Cillian Murphy as a solid Jaqen, would like to see This Guy in it possibly as Lord Beric, or if Joe gets something else then possibly age him up to a Mance Rayder…..? He was fantastic as Shelock and think he could fit in to GoT somewhere

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  106. world_dancer
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Huh.

    I always got the impression Lommy was a big kid and Hot Pie was kind of tiny. It seems to be reversed in these actors, though they may have changed since the photos were taken. It will be interesting to see how they do.

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  107. Zack
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch. It’s easy to believe that someone whose most developed talent is baking would be on the bigger side.

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  108. Posted October 6, 2010 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    userj,

    world_dancer,

    Actually, they got it right. In the books, Hot Pie is described as plump, and here’s Amok’s portrait of Hot Pie, and you know, Amok is always canon :)

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  109. Posted October 6, 2010 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    RE: Beric Dondarrion

    People have to remember Lord Beric is described as a flaming redhead, young, handsome, and gallant. I think it’s very important that he at least look very young because the transformation he goes through from a handsome young man that makes all the ladies’ hearts go aflutter at the Hand’s Tourney to the honorable yet half-dead Robin Hood-type character is really dramatic.

    In my head, I have always seen SIMON WOODS as Lord Beric in my head. Photos:

    http://api.ning.com/files/ALguqZz86rLZwHwCCEIVZKNK7D4TgZiJ5YtDlf2P7LjcwuAmunM34IOFWTBKxbDKrEouzEGnuY8AmvDAKY*sCS2zQZYjTvAn/SimonWoods.jpg

    http://www.ancientworlds.net/aworlds_media/ibase_1/00/11/30/00113054_000.jpg

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tgvz4xB_hr4/TB4z8jv996I/AAAAAAAAAMw/7ewr2YwYu54/s1600/woods.jpg

    I suppose it’s also worth noting that he portrayed the adult Octavian in Rome, so Nina is familiar with him! Definitely my #1 pick for the Lightning Lord.

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  110. Posted October 6, 2010 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    ok, the link didn’t work.

    Here’s Hot Pie by Amok

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  111. Mickey D
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    The Rabbit: But “Baelors steps” are not necessary for Whispering Wood, IMHO.
    They are all ready in open war, with the Ned s capture.

    Actually, while “Baelors steps” isn’t a necessary prerequisite for “Whispering Wood”, it does need to be close enough so that news of “Whispering Wood” doesn’t make it to Kings Landing before “Baelors steps” – remember, they lamented “Baelors steps” because they lost the opportunity for a swap…
    there – I think that’s obscure enough to not be a spoiler, while those that have read it know exactly what i’m talking about, isn’t it?

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  112. Posted October 6, 2010 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Stella Maris: RE: Beric DondarrionPeople have to remember Lord Beric is described as a flaming redhead, young, handsome, and gallant. I think it’s very important that he at least look very young because the transformation he goes through from a handsome young man that makes all the ladies’ hearts go aflutter at the Hand’s Tourney to the honorable yet half-dead Robin Hood-type character is really dramatic.In my head, I have always seen SIMON WOODS as Lord Beric in my head.

    Couldn’t agree more ! Loved him in Rome and I think he would make a fantastic Beric, though I hadn’t thought of him for the role until you mentioned it.

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  113. Cypher
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Are they going to cast Beric in Season 1?

    How about Harwin? I would think both are important to later Arya events. The moment she recognizes Harwin in the Inn was very powerful to me, and would become much less so if the soldier she meets is an unnamed former Winterfell guard.

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  114. Brad
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Another casting wish:

    Dominic West for Benjen Stark! But since that is cast, how about Mance Rayder? Or anything else.

    Classic McNutty
    From the movie Centurion
    Filmography

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  115. Posted October 6, 2010 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Stella Maris,

    Good call for Berric. A bit older but I could see Damian Lewis as well. My ideal actor would be Kevin McKidd. I think if they get a so called ‘name’ for any of these characters yet to be cast I think a second season is a very good bet.

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  116. Posted October 6, 2010 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Rahbur,
    I third that. Perfect.

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  117. Posted October 6, 2010 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Stella Maris,

    In my head, I have always seen SIMON WOODS as Lord Beric in my head.

    I think he’d make an awesome Edmure too!

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  118. Posted October 6, 2010 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    I think they got the Hotpie and Lomey roles right. If you worked in a pastry kitchen wouldn’t you be a bit pudgy too?

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  119. TPFKA Thoros of Myr
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Just thinking idle pipe dreams out loud: if we overloos the things that are wrong (ie. american, probably too big a name for the part, for sterters) what would be wrong with Christopher Walken for Roose Bolton?
    As fpr “Sherlock”s Sherlock, maybe he could do as jaqen?

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  120. Zack
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    TPFKA Thoros of Myr,

    Walken as Bolton…

    He could pull off the required understated friendly creepiness early on…I like it. They probably wouldn’t be able to get Walken, though.

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  121. Posted October 6, 2010 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    TPFKA Thoros of Myr,

    the problem with Walken is everybody would kinda know from the start Bolton’s up to know good.

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  122. world_dancer
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria,

    True enough. I don’t normally picture him that fat. And we can’t always get what we want, so it’s not like this is a great tragedy.

    But it wasn’t just fat I was thinking of. I always think of Lommy as larger than Hot Pie. It’s not just fat, but the one actor appears quite big boned from his head and set of his shoulders, while the other looks petit and delicately boned (look at his wrists). Maybe it’s different when you see them together.

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  123. Zack
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Nymeria: TPFKA Thoros of Myr,
    the problem with Walken is everybody would kinda know from the start Bolton’s up to know good.    

    Is that a problem? I don’t think Martin was ever hiding Bolton’s nature. What with the sigil and what Ramsay does in book 2, viewers/readers were probably supposed to at least be suspicious in time for book 3′s big scene.

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  124. OldGran
    Posted October 6, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    How current is that picture of Eros Vlahos? He may have grown some since then, boys his age grow alarmingly fast as you know if you have either raised teenage boys or have been one. He looks younger than his age if he is 14 or 15 in that pic.

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  125. Posted October 9, 2010 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    What excites me about this is that if they are casting for season two, we may soon get my favorite character cast. I speak, of course, of Ed Tollett.

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