Since Tim Van Patten was announced as a series director on Game of Thrones a month back, the list of directors working on this first season has been complete. What we didn’t know was who would be directing which episode. Until now. We’ve been able to obtain the full directorial breakdown for this first season:
Tim Van Patten – Episodes 1, 2
Brian Kirk – Episodes 3, 4, 5
Daniel Minahan – Episodes 6, 7, 8
Alan Taylor – Episodes 9, 10
Winter Is Coming: What is interesting to note here is that Tom McCarthy, the director of the original pilot, seems to be completely out at this point. With most, or all, of the pilot reshot it seems likely he won’t be credited in this series at all. Hopefully they can bring him back to direct an episode in a later season, as I was looking forward to his take on the series. Still, the directors we have remaining are all very talented and should be more than capable of giving us some amazing television.
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A really nice line-up, with considerably important chunks of the series for each of the directors. Those with only two episodes have on the other hand the additional privilege and burden to open and close the season, respectively.
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Perhaps they simply wasn’t happy with McCarthys work on the pilot and that may have been an additional reason for reshooting. Then again it couild simply be that he’s busy with other work.
Ingemar SvenssonQuote Reply
I was wondering if McCarthy was going to get any credit on the pilot. I guess that answers that. Van Patten has done some really solid TV work.
dizzy_34Quote Reply
I wonder whether they still stuck with the style that McCarthy developed and he was just unfortunately unavailable, or if they wanted to go a different direction with it.
ChrisQuote Reply
Enwizen me:
Why do some shows change director/s each episode (and not just have a single ‘director’ for the series like there ‘used to be’)? How do shows that feature different directors ensure series consistency under new eyes each time? What if one director’s interpretation ends up not ‘matching’ the series?
Or… is a director, a director?
Thanks friends.
reedgirlQuote Reply
reedgirl,
Waaaaay too time consuming for a modern show. Not even sitcoms do that anymore. Except Louie but Louis CK is a freak of nature. It’s unheard of
MajnunQuote Reply
Regards the original pilot. Bryan Cogman said at the Moot that quite a lot of it was still going to be used. I’m sure he used the figure 80%. I’d been talking about the Doune filming but I’m not sure whether he was including that in the 80% or not.
Perhaps Samantha, Joe Campo, Patrick or Silverjaime can remember more, think they were all there for that conversation. That’s the same one that led to Bryan mentioning his regret at calling Castle Black a fortress but pointed it out the blog was written at 2am ;)
Jackie MacPhersonQuote Reply
The three possible reasons as to why McCarthy isn’t directing any episodes: A) they were unhappy with his work in some way, B) he wasn’t happy with the project, C) his schedule didn’t work out.
I think the most likely answer is A. That’s not to denigrate McCarthy, who is terrific, but it may be the genre just isn’t right for him. Certainly, he gets the dramatic part of it, I’m sure, but all of the other things about it: the technical aspects of shooting with lots of green screen, effects, action scenes, episodic TV vs. feature film, etc., may not have been natural for him. We’ll likely never hear about it if this was the reason. Only if it was about scheduling or some other innocuous reason will we hear of it.
I just realized, looking at his credits, that Alan Taylor directed the short “That Burning Question,” starring John Leguizamo which was actually an NYU thesis film and probably the best student film I have ever seen. It was a really mature piece of work – well written, directed and acted (especially by Leguizamo, who was still an NYU student, himself, at the time). When I was at NYU in 1994 they showed it to all of us and I wouldn’t be surprised if they still show it to students there. I found out years later that a friend of mine, whom I worked with when I was in my first assistant’s job in talent management, was nearly picked to be a lead in the film (not Leguizamo’s part), but it went to some other dude.
It sometimes runs on cable, so if you ever get the chance I highly recommend it. It certainly started Taylor off on a nice directing career.
BrudeQuote Reply
Mr. McCarty got the job done… the pilot was picked up. So thank you Tom, wherever you are :D
BrianQuote Reply
The producers, cinematographers and production staff are the ones who ensure the show maintains the same look and feel. The directors on TV are less involved in that than they are on feature films, generally. The pilot/first episode director is usually more involved in creating the look, also, so they sort of help set the tone for the rest of the series to come. That’s why, a lot of times, the main producer of a series is often the director of the first episode(s), but not always.
In TV, the head writer/Supervising Producer (aka the Show Runner) is the artist most responsible for what the show is and makes all of the big final decisions. TV is a writer-driven medium, whereas film is director driven. TV directors are more responsible for the nuts and bolts, on set, handling of actors on set and such but they are supposed to work within the parameters laid down by the producers and the directors who went before them, if any. In a way they are working within a pretty strict formula laid out for them, already.
Now, shows like the big, movie-like HBO series might allow more room for director interpretation, but only up to a point. In the end, it’s still got to be consistent with the overall look, feel, tone that has already been established. Any director who fails to achieve this isn’t going to stay on the project for long.
BrudeQuote Reply
Brude,
Yeah, I vaguely remember a report from soon after McCarthy was chosen that at least one producer (I don’t think her name was given) was unhappy about the pick because she felt he couldn’t do epic.
I was stoked about McCarthy, largely because of his phenomenal films “The Station Agent” and “The Visitor”, but I can see how HBO might not dig his minimalist approach.
izakmoQuote Reply
Jackie MacPherson, thanks for the info. Love that we now have people who’ve had direct communication with members of the production and can answer some of our questions. I’d be curious to hear what else Bryan had to say about his part in the Making Game of Thrones site. Does Jim (the guy in HBO marketing who runs it) hound him for blog posts? Or is Bryan blogging regularly and they are slowly releasing them? How does he decide what to blog about? I’m sure I can think of more questions. ;)
Brude, you really think they didn’t like McCarthy? I think it was option C. The recasting of the two leads meant almost total reshoots and unfortunately, he just wasn’t available. Remember, the folks who have seen the original pilot have reportedly been “blown away.” So if it elicited that sort of reaction, I have to imagine the direction was pretty good.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
I’m afraid in the Moot situation I would go something along the lines of “oh Bryan, wow um what do you think of the show?” and carry on asking inane questions like that ;) I did ask him if he felt quite a bit of pressure writing in George’s world to which he basically answered “duh!” but in a polite way. I also asked if he has to pass any of the additional scenes onto George for approval to which he replied no, GRRM respects their work enough to let them get on with it.
His mention of the GoT blog was in response to someone (was it me?) asking what he thought of things like chair gate. He said it was hilarious and he loved it and it just proved what fantastically passionate fans George has (I’m paraphrasing there but it was along those lines). He said he regretted using the word Fortress for Castle Black because he *knows* it’s not a fortress but it was late at night when he was writing it up. I didn’t think to ask him the mechanics of how he goes about updating the GoT blog. You might want to as Jim that directly. Bryan also joked (I stress joked!) that as soon as the show airs he’s signing off the boards forever because he doesn’t want to know if we’re upset with what he’s done to the show ;)
Anyway, these little things jog the memory. Sorry for the ramble.
Jackie MacPhersonQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
I’d strongly agree that the reason Tom McCarthy isn’t involved is scheduling. Tom has a pretty active career going with the movies he writes and directs – according to IMDB he’ll have a new movie out in 2011 that he wrote/directed. And he continues to act. Taking a few months out to direct episode(s) of GOT may never have been part of the plan for him.
But it looks like HBO has a assembled a great team of seasoned directors for season one – so no worries all around.
jasonQuote Reply
Well, I gave the three most likely options I could think of and any are possible – that’s why I listed all three. Scheduling could well be it – it all depends on what he lined up in the interregnum between the pilot and the series shooting. But, the series is shooting for a good long time and I find it slightly odd that he didn’t have any time at all to shoot one or two episodes, in the meantime. Still, it could just be that this project “Win, Win,” (listed as in post production) could just have eaten up 100% of his time. (Helluva cast in that, by the way.)
Really, it’s all just speculation.
BrudeQuote Reply
If they weren’t happy with McCarthys work, they REALLY should not have kept most of the pilotshoots for the first episode…
sjweningsQuote Reply
I wish the dvds would have the alternate pilot included on them
Todd L. RossQuote Reply
My guess is also scheduling. With all of the recasts, a great deal of reshooting was inevitable, and it’s entirely likely McCarthy wasn’t available.
This is an all-star lineup in any case, and there’s plenty to be excited about.
Ser_GQuote Reply
This series we love so much would not exist without the successful pilot. Mr. McCarthy, thank you so much for your involvement in getting the show green-lit, and therefore making all of this possible– all of season 1, including all the casting news, production reports, location photos– all the chairs, wigs, gates, and -gates thereof. A moot attended by castmembers & crew, because without a show there would be none, and without a great pilot there would be no show.
You get the idea. You’ll find no speculation about the reception of Tom’s work here.. HBO apparently thought it was good enough to grant a green light. Tom McCarthy deserves a huge, HUGE round of thanks from all fans of GoT!
BradQuote Reply
Hey, I ain’t knocking McCarthy, I think his movies are awesome and he’s a fantastic actor, too. I’m a big fan.
BrudeQuote Reply
Agreed. We should be happy with McCarthy’s contribution so far in the series. Without him, a great pilot wouldn’t have been established. One might therefore say that Mr. McCarthy’s work is the base for all upcoming seasons and episodes.
Sandor CleganeQuote Reply
It could be a guild thing, where the reshooting and such required Van Patton to be the creditted director insted of McCarthy, even though he shot most of episode one.
SeanQuote Reply
Hard to say, I’d have to look at guild rules about such things. There was a time when only one director could have credit on anything – it was something the DGA enforced to promote the idea of the auteur director – as the director and not the producer or writer as the chief artist in control of a film. The DGA relaxed these rules a bit for recognized directorial teams in the wake of recent films where teams of directors working together have been making films – most notably the Coen Bros., the Wachowskis, the Hughes Bros. Then there is the situation that happened with “Sin City” where Robert Rodriguez actually quit the DGA because they refused to allow Frank Miller to have co-Director credit with him because they weren’t a recognized team. The latter is probably rather like the situation here, if that much of the original pilot is in fact being used.
BrudeQuote Reply
Do the DGA rules even apply in the case of this show? I’d thought that most of the guilds associated with this production were the European equivalents?
Ser_GQuote Reply
I can’t believe they are going to be using 80% of the original pilot. There is no way. Off the top of my head, all the scenes that would need to be reshot include:
Prologue
Dany meets Drogo
Ned and Catelyn in godswood
King’s arrival
Catelyn scolds Bran
Winterfell feast
Ned and Catelyn in bedchamber
Dany’s wedding
The scenes that wouldn’t need reshooting include:
Beheading and finding of direwolves
Ned and Robert in crypts
Jaime/Tyrion in brothel
Ned and Robert exchange words in Winterfell courtyard
Bran climbing
Seems more like they reshot 80% of the original pilot, not are using 80% of the original pilot. Either Bryan really over-exaggerated the amount of the original pilot they are using, or he got his numbers reversed.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
I don’t believe for a second that much of the original pilot shooting would be used in the final product. For sure not an 80%, that number must be refering only to the scenes shot in Doune, and even that I think it is not acurate.
We know the prologue has bein reshot, all the Essos scenes have being reshot and the Catelyn ones too. If any of the kids have changed noticebly since last year, their scenes will be reshot also.
And we guess/know that other scenes have being extended or changed altogether (direwolfs finding).
During the moot, I asked Kit Harrington the difference between the shooting of the pilot and the series, and he confirmed what I imagined: the shooting of the pilot was more rushed. Clearly, in my opinion, the schedule was tighter, because HBO was looking more for a screen test than a polished final product.
At this point, I think the only bits of the original pilot that it’ll be included in episode one are the Rose/Tyrion/Jaime scene, Ned/Robert scenes, Garred execution, shots of the banquet, the Royals arrival, Jon/Benjen and Jon/Ghost/Tyrion, plus some wide shots of castles and exteriors. Not more of 30%, I’d think.
DennaiQuote Reply
Dennai,
Winter Is Coming,
Both of you state that the Execution of Gared won’t have been reshot but surely there is a new actor in the role.
MormegilQuote Reply
Hmm… So who will set the tone for the series, then? It might not be McCarthy since Kit says the Pilot was somewhat rushed – and add to that, most of the Pilot will be reshot.
Someone has to do it. Weird.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
They re-shot the finding the direwolves scene in Tollymore recently.
Martin
MartinQuote Reply
Mormegil,
Well, we know Waymar Royce was recast (Rob Osterle for Jamie Campbell-Bower), and we know that Will was going to be recast, but they ended up working out the schedule with Bronson Webb. However, there has never been any news about Gared being recast, or the beheading scene being reshot.
the goatQuote Reply
Gared has been recast with Dermot Keaney.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
Let’s not forget how film works, however. For example, you said “the Winterfell feast” would need to be reshot. Yet there may be plenty of footage from the first time they shot it, that doesn’t include Catelyn onscreen, for example. Just because a particular actor’s part in a scene has to be reshot because of recasting, doesn’t necessarily mean that none of the original version of the scene can be used. It depends on the scene, of course. For example, the Ned/Catelyn bedchamber scene I would imagine would be fully reshot, since it was just the two of them in a smaller set. But scenes in the Great Hall of Winterfell, or Illyrio’s mansion during Dany’s introduction to Drogo, thee could well be lots of footage that is still usable.
I’m not saying that’s what they *are* doing–they may very well just be reshooting any scenes with new actors in their entirety. I’m just pointing out that it’s *possible* that more of the original footage may be usable than most people are envisioning.
Just my two dwarf pennies. =)
Best,
~~~~Random
Random221BQuote Reply
I don’t see that happening. They have to make the whole set/actors and so forth looking EXACTLY the same in the new Catelyn scenes, in order for that to work.
sjweningsQuote Reply
sjwenings,
Yeah, my bad. I remember the story about the prologue being reshot, with Royce being recast because JCB was working on Camelot, and a casting call for Will because Webb was working on Pirates 4, but there was never any mention of Gared being recast.
Keaney was listed in the huge fact sheet with all the actors/roles, directors, etc that was released around that same time, but was understandably lost in the shuffle of all the other new castings that were included in that announcement.
the goatQuote Reply
Well, they do reshoots and “pick-ups” all the time. That’s what set decorators, script supervisors, etc are for, to ensure continuity. Plus, with video playback, they can look at the old scenes right there on set.
I’m sure if they are re-shooting a shot-reverse-shot conversation between say, Cat & Ned, they will go ahead and re-shoot the reaction shots from Sean Bean (even if Fairley isn’t in the frame), but establishing shots and long, complicated shots (i.e. King’s arrival at Winterfell) don’t need to be redone unless they include a recast character. Or the scene has been re-written (prologue).
the goatQuote Reply
Brude,
You forgot the possible option that McCarthy was always meant to shoot only the pilot (and only part of the pilot). In the process, his name got people’s attention so HBO never made a deal about him just doing the pilot.
And secondly for the fact that an indie guy can deal with a low budget and fast schedule. Even though HBO has a nice budget for this, most of the production work came much later.. doing the pilot was dealing with bare minimum.
FünkeQuote Reply
What about George RR Martin? I thought that he was directing an episode.
frizzlefry5446Quote Reply
frizzlefry5446,
I believe GRRM is writing an episode (#8?); not directing one.
DH87Quote Reply
frizzlefry5446,
He actually wrote one episode. He was never mentioned as a possible director.
Cutter Allen KilgoreQuote Reply
sjwenings,
I believe Brude gave us that answer, above: the show runner (aka executive producer). He/she is the one who signs off on the concepts for art direction, costume design, music, script approval, casting, the whole shebang. That is whose artistic concept HBO is buying. In this case, D&D.
After three years of True Blood, fans are pretty much able to guess who of the four writers has crafted each episode without checking the credits. Nancy Oliver is the most lyrical, emotional, character-driven; Alan Ball is the blood-thirstiest, etc. We may find the same small but evident distinctions in GOT. Just hope we don’t see the plethora of continuity errors that have plagued TB.
DH87Quote Reply
I am glad that Alan Taylor has been assigned the final two episodes. The episode he directed on the death of Wild Bill Hicock in Deadwood was awesome. Hopefully that translates well to handling the execution of Eddard Stark
SensukiQuote Reply
^ This.
It would be perfect if they could get D&D, Van Patten, McCarthy, and of course GRRM, to do the commentary for the Pilot/Episode 1, and just discuss their various visions, ideas, and the whole decision-making process.
Also interesting to note that Van Patten was the last director announced (on October 7, months after shooting started and the other three were announced in July), yet he is credited with Episode 1 & 2. Regardless, they are all wonderful directors, and no matter who gets what credit, we know that Tom McCarthy played a great role in bringing this amazing story to life.
the goatQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
Or I got confused on what Bryan meant. Now let me see which is more likely… ;)
Jackie MacPhersonQuote Reply
Highly recommending the Starz/TMN Movie Networks’s “Pillars of the Earth” (based on the novel by Ken Follett). There are 8 episodes in the series, all currently available on demand.
The story is epic, and it is set in the middle-ages (King Henry i) and covers the building of a great cathedral during the scramble/battle for the throne of Englandafter the King dies. Gorgeous costuming, moving story, and a jarring snapshot of life at those times. Some themes we may recognize from ASOIAF include:
– the ‘little’ people suffering for the ambitions of the powerful
– the church/religion has its’ own motivations
– of course incest/keeping it all in the family ;) Charmingly done.
– sob/bastard characters to scream at and noble characters to suffer along with… including heart-clenching moments reminiscent of the Red Wedding
http://www.the-pillars-of-the-earth.tv/
Watch it. I think ASOIAF fans will enjoy it as much as I did. March can’t come soon enough.
(also open to suggestions from other as to what to watch next. Thanks :)
reedgirlQuote Reply
reedgirl,
I found the series okay, but expected more: it had pacing problems and other issues. Visually quite pleasing. I remember agreeing with what Mo Ryan wrote on it (though she was quite harsh), so you can read that for the general impression :) GOT should be much much better, especially if the tell the story the right way – Martin beats Follet on the source material side of things.
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Hear Me Roar,
Man, I can’t wait to see GoT. I liked PotE – having read the novel, I thought it was a pretty good adaptation. Though yes, it did drag at some points. And there’s just a wee bit of prophecy in it, so it’s enough magic to keep me intrigued.
reedgirlQuote Reply
I’m in teh middle of wathcing PotE at the moment. Must say, after being initially impressed (by the first 2 episodes) – I’ve found it a bit plodding ever since, and the characterisations are a bit on the ‘empty’ side, none of the ‘grey’ areas you get with GRRM that makes reading his works so unpredictable.
Martin
MartinQuote Reply
A long time lurker here, hi to all.
I’ve seen PotE, then read the book and then seen it again. My impressions of the mini-series before reading the book were much better than after reading … The mini-series are VERY loosely based on the book, to the point of only keeping the names of the characters and mentioning most of the key events, but everything else is changed beyond recognition. I loved the book and I didn’t like most of the changes or cuts that were made.
The actors and the production values are great, and it could’ve been a great min-series if it wasn’t based on the book that tells this story much better.
I don’t know why they changed king Stephen to a complete psycho, when IRL and in the book he was a relatively decent guy (too decent for his time, actually, that’s why the Anarchy took place), why they invented the incest between William and his mother, why they omitted Phillip’s backstory, why the whole deal with Becket was cut etc etc etc …
Alexander DubrovskyQuote Reply
I should probably add, that my ‘unpredictable’ in reference to Martin’s books is a good thing :)
Martin
MartinQuote Reply
Moot on UTV !
The RabbitQuote Reply
Just an additional note regards the amount of footage that will be used from the pilot. I asked Ran at Westeros.org if he’d heard anything from Bryan and here’s what he said (I’ve checked and I’m allowed to quote him ;).
“Bryan told me that all the Morocco scenes were redone, the prologue, but a lot of the other stuff at Winterfell remains. Excepting the scenes with Ehle. In particular, it sounds like a lot of the feast shots will remain, except some angles with Ehle.”
So it looks like the 80% comment was probably in relation to the Winterfell scenes (although I imagine the ratio of Winterfell to Dany scenes is pretty high) and with the magic of TV it looks like they will be able to use a lot of the original feast footage.
Jackie MacPhersonQuote Reply
Jackie MacPherson,
Sounds like they have carefully recreated the Doune feast hall in the studios then, impressive :)
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Well in theory there might have been a tapestry up behind them on a stone wall, that would be pretty simple to match esp if the focal length meant the background was blurred. Either way, I’m happy they’re using the footage cos now I can chant “I was there!” while watching ;)
Jackie MacPhersonQuote Reply
Jackie MacPherson,
Plus GRRM’s cameo might still be worked in!
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
izakmo,
I remembered this, too.
However, her issues with McCarthy seem to be moot at this point. The show’s getting made, and he’s got two acting gigs and a film he directed in post production. My guess lines up with Winter and the other folks who assume that his schedule wouldn’t allow for the necessary re-shoots.
I’ll add my voice to those thanking him for guiding Game of Thrones to a season pick-up.
paulgudeQuote Reply
You mean there’s hope for my epic, Brazier filling scene? Oh happy day!!
I really do feel that my scene is the hinge upon which the whole series is fixed. If I hadn’t filled the brazier up with such a begrudging manner, it could have sent out the wrong signals to the other people in the Winterfell courtyard who could have interpreted my merry demeanour as a validation of the Lannister’s appearance in Winterfell, thus undermining any rebellious mood within the community and, ergo, defusing any tension that could have been used to the Stark’s advantage. To summise, if I hadn’t given The Hound and Joffrey that dirty look as thay walked past, the course of the impending wars would have taken a radically different direction.
No need to thank me – just doing my job.
Looking at that list of Directors, I’ve been in scenes directing by 2 of them so far (Brian/Daniel). I would love to been in scenes for all four but that probably won’t happen now as I imagine that Tim is finished.
RimshotQuote Reply
I would also like to thank Tom McCarthy for his work and dedication to this project. I am sorry that he won’t get any credit for the work he did on the pilot episode. However who knows, once the series takes-off, perhaps they will find a way to add his name to the roster of people involved with “Game Of Thrones”, after all he was among the first to partake in this nascent epic.
I imagine Peter Dinklage is not verry happy with this, given the connection he has with McCarthy, who is maybe one of the reasons he is on this show to begin with.
I am familiar with both Tim Van Patten and Alan Taylor, since they have been involved with pretty much every show HBO has had in the past decade or so, from “Band Of Brothers” to more recentlty ‘The Pacific”. I wouldn’d be surprised that in later seasons, should the series have a full-run, directors like Jeremy Podeswa (“The Pacific”, “Brotherhood”, “The Tudors”, “Fugitive Pieces”), Bruce McKenna (“Band Of Brothers”, “The Pacific”) and Tonny To (“Band Of Brothers”, “the Pacific”) will also be added to “Game Of Thrones”, especially since they are also long time HBO colaborators.
I hope they can get Tom McCarthy back at some point to perhaps direct some future episode/s. My biggest wish would be for HBO to get Michael Apted (“ROME”) and Tom Hooper (“John Adams” – the ENTIRE miniseries, “Elizabeth I”, “The Damned United” and the upcoming “The King’s Speech”) to direct a few episodes. Apted and Hooper are awesome directors and already have a proven track record with HBO.
If you can get this type of high caliber direct0rs involved, well the end result cannot help but be awesome. Look at what Martin Scorsese did with the pilot for “Boardwalk Empire” , or Frank Darabont with the pilot episode for the really f**king amazing “The Walking Dead”! (one of the best and most interesting shows to hit TV in a long, long, long time)
By the way, Bear McCreary’s work on “The Walking Dead” is great and he seems not to have made it out too shabby, after the previous show he was working on “Caprica” was cancelled (read butchered) by those retards at SyFy, and HBO passed on him…I think we really let a good one get by, but the dude that HBO has hired still seems to be appropiate for this project, and of course one can’t judge him until his work on “Game Of Thrones” comes out…
loco73Quote Reply
loco73,
Given that we hear they are still using the footage from the pilot (especially the feast and many Winterfell non-Ehle shots, I suspect McCarthy may be credited alongside Van Patten for episode one. And rightly so.
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Thanks for replying.
loco73Quote Reply
You’ve made a believer out of me! [Where's that Emmy Nomination ballot?]
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