MGoT update: 11 new photos!
By Winter Is Coming on in Media.

Making Game of Thrones has eleven new production photos posted up on the site. Most of these I saw last night, prior to the 15 minute sneak peek. But some are new to me. They all look fantastic! Especially Miltos! Check out the rest of the photos over at MGoT.

Syrio trains Arya

Credit: Helen Sloan / HBO


180 Comments

  1. Jose
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Why is Bran wearing a belt across his chest?

    And wow that supple leather on Jaime! Looks like the most comfortable jacket ever made.

  2. Zack
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Ah that shot of Arya and Syrio is perfect! Perfect! Hooray!

    I love the pic of Bran & Robb with their dogs almost as much (I’d say wolves but those are really cute dogs.)

    And April 17!!! What a wonderful slightly late birthday gift from D&D :)

  3. dizzy_34
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Oh here we go with hair gate.

  4. byryn
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    I mentioned it on the other post, but why is Arya holding the practice sword with her right hand??? The photo is still super awesome, but count me as one of those crazy nitpicking fanboys…

  5. Avalanche3319
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    byryn,

    Yeah, I don’t really care which hand she uses personally, but werent we already informed Maisie would use her left hand?

  6. the goat
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    I just cried (and peed) a little.

  7. Luca Corradini
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:50 pm | Permalink

    My comment at the Maisie-Miltos photo?

    Oh.My.God.

  8. Dennai
    Posted January 7, 2011 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    With all the awesome pictures they could choose from , thay have to include one with Ned and Lady just to ruin my cheerful mood. I’m gonna be depressed the rest of the day.

  9. byryn
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I’ve been squeeing all day at all the great news and the new photos. Don’t get me wrong. I love the photo of Miltos and Maisie. But I was just surprised a little after noticing that Maise was holding the sword in her right hand because they made a big deal (i.e. actually pointing it out in their blog post) that Maise would be using her left hand. Maybe it’s just for this pose. Using her left hand would block her body for this photo.

  10. seanathin
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    Dennai,

    And that one wouldn’t be depressing if we didn’t know what it was. I need to go hug my puppy now.

  11. obsidian
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    I couldn’t look at the big version of Ned and Lady

    paulgude… How do you like Syrio’s curls ?;)
    Jon and Bran very much look related.
    Small quibble from a costume freak, many of the costumes are too oviously machine sewn for my taste but hand finish would be outrageously expensive and time consuming , and I refuse to get bothered as long as I don’t see a zipper …

  12. Ridney
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Gorgeous! The detailing on the costumes is to die for — just beautiful.

    I have to wonder how on earth they’re going to handle the direwolves once they get huge. Look at the size of that corpse peaking into one of the frames! The pups are pretty obviously dogs, but who knows what direction production will decide on later. However, having seen what HBO is capable of in the SFX department, I have faith they’ll come up with something good.

    Speaking of eyebrow-gate from the preview write up, I notice the new photo of Dany shows her with frosted brows. It looks like a nice compromise between plausible coloring and visibility; they don’t disappear into her face, but neither do they stick out to distraction.

    Great job so far. Keep it coming, Winter!

  13. Lior
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    What has just happened? For a few hours the registrar had the page at “winter-is-coming.net” claim the site was suspended.

  14. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    ELEVEN!?!? Woohoo!

    Just got home, excited to delve into all the GOT goodness.

  15. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    the goat: I just cried (and peed) a little.    

    Ahahaha. You win this thread.

  16. Lior
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    The Syrio-Aria still looks posed rather than taken from a live scene. Beyond Aria holding her sword in the wrong hand, Syrio is holding his sword in an awkward position, far back rather than in front.

  17. Oscar
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Is that Joffrey? and if it doesnt he have Green eyes? I thought the Baratheons had Blue eyes

  18. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    The best part of the Syrio pic, IMO, is that Ned is watching in the background. Everyone loves Syrio/Arya, but my favorite part of that plotline was always that Ned set the whole thing up. I always thought that was one of Ned’s coolest actions as a father.

  19. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    Oscar: Is that Joffrey? and if it doesnt he have Green eyes? I thought the Baratheons had Blue eyes    

    Um… have you read the books? Sure, Joff’s NAME is Baratheon…

  20. aschen heaven
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    This is marvelous.

    Jaime-Jon: It’s just a photo but I can already feel the tension crackling between those two. Epic. And while I like Jaime’s coat/jacket/whatever, it looks…kinda modern to me. XD

    Joffrey: Yep, the boy is supposed to have green eyes but the ‘ice cold eyes’ thing is strangely fitting, since it adds up to this pale, cold image. Even if he’s just standing there, you can sense that there’s something…wrong…with this kid.

    Robb: I’m a Jon fangirl, but Robb’s growing on me. XD He looks good in heavy black cloaks and fur. And those pups look adorable.

    Crowner!
    Syrio: This pic alone could attest Syrio’s badassitude. Same goes for Arya. I will probably spaz out when Syrio gets a proper fight scene to showcase his skills. XDD

  21. Mike Works
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:22 am | Permalink
  22. reedgirl
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    Beautiful, just beautiful. Seeing Isaac as Bran standing on his own two feet is heartbreaking – it reminds you of just how briefly he remains ‘whole’. Such a beautiful boy – evokes incredible empathy with that ‘old soul’ look about him.

    Jaime and Jon – I don’t recall when these two get into a ‘confrontation’. I don’t believe they said a word to each other in the books. Maybe when they were all sparring at Winterfell? Love Jaime’s posture – either making Jon come to him, or hauling him to ‘heel’. Jon (handsome, expressive) seems appropriately surprised/caught off guard. Jaime’s leather coat looks really great.

    Ned and Lady. Hurts. So. Much.

    Dany is stirring. I don’t mind her clothes or her hair. It’s her beautiful face that really catches the eye. Such a child, but those eyes…

    Arya/Syrio – so cool that Ned is watching them spar, like it’s the most normal thing in the world. What a great dad. LOVE the look on Maisie’s face. So perfect.

    Joffrey. I want to hit him. Amazing costuming here. (Amazing costuming all around actually. The details are lush, and just ‘fantasy’ enough.) Love Lion’s Tooth. Heh.

    Catelyn is much softer than I had thought, and I like it.

  23. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    I too am confused about this Jaime/Jon confrontation, but I did notice that it was in the recent 11 minute preview. For just a quick second, there was a shot from this scene. Can anyone find it in the book?

  24. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    Oscar,

    Maybe I misunderstood you, I thought you were asking why his eyes aren’t blue…

  25. Chris
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:44 am | Permalink
  26. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:45 am | Permalink

    Chris,

    HODOR!

  27. fake-o name-o
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:03 am | Permalink

    oof, I’m really not a fan of Michele Clapton’s work overall. There seems to be a lot of weird, nonfuctional ornamentation that just screams “this is a costume!”

  28. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:11 am | Permalink

    fake-o name-o,

    I don’t know, I think it all looks pretty gorgeous (even if it’s not exactly how I pictured it). I would have preferred a more medieval look myself, but in a way I think this makes the show more unique.

    Re: Jaime’s leather jacket… it definitely looks modern and quite odd… but it also looks freaking awesome.

  29. SA_Avenger
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:14 am | Permalink

    I love the pictures even if I’d have to agree that it’s weird they would show Arya holding a sword in right hand when it’s obvious from previous reports that Masie has made tons of efforts for Arya to be left handed

  30. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:16 am | Permalink

    Does Arya ALWAYS use her left hand in the book, when training with Syrio, or does she switch at some point?

  31. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:30 am | Permalink

    dizzy_34: Oh here we go with hair gate.    

    Interestingly, I’ve seen a few complaints about the hair at oher forums, but here we seem to be more concerned with right-hand-gate!

  32. Tar Kidho
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:48 am | Permalink

    Lex:
    Interestingly, I’ve seen a few complaints about the hair at oher forums, but here we seem to be more concerned with right-hand-gate!    

    Hair-gate is so old already that we probably lost the purpose to discuss it any further. In that sense it may prove a very good decission by HBO to start the MGoT website – let the true fans squible on the appearance beforehand, and then when the show finally airs, the newcomers will hear less stories like ‘this and that looked different in the books’.
    Anyway, the Syrio/Arya picture is awesome, and probably would have been even had they both held their sword with their feet! Is there a ‘best fighting scene’ award at the Emmys or Baftas?

  33. fake-o name-o
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:37 am | Permalink

    Lex: fake-o name-o,
    I don’t know, I think it all looks pretty gorgeous (even if it’s not exactly how I pictured it). I would have preferred a more medieval look myself, but in a way I think this makes the show more unique.Re: Jaime’s leather jacket… it definitely looks modern and quite odd… but it also looks freaking awesome.    

    Yeah, I think it looks pretty cool, but like it’s trying to be too unique, and not trying to stay true to the books. George put a lot into the descriptions in the books and his descriptions make sense, but I get the feeling Clapton didn’t read the books or try to understand the clothes as GRRM described them.

    For instance, with the Maester’s chains having donut-sized links (as WIC describes them). OK, maybe having a huge chain that puts Mr. T to shame makes for a “unique” look, but it doesn’t make sense in the context of the backstory in the books. Do all maesters who study accounting really have a donut sized lump of gold around their necks? How about Silver, Valyrian steel, etc?

    I get the same feel with Dany’s wrist bindings, Robert’s shoulder pads and Jaime’s silver leather trenchcoat. Like they are trying too hard to go for striking and unique looks to the point where it is just distracting.

    The caveat being, of course, that I am a huge nerd obsessing over stills, and have not seen the finished product.

  34. WW
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:46 am | Permalink

    The background on the Dany picture has been digitally removed, and a bit too hastily. That can be seen around the hair of both Dany and Jorah, and the trees on the lower left of the picture doesn’t appear above Dany’s elbow…

  35. Bob Hoskins
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:55 am | Permalink

    Is this better?

  36. Bob Hoskins
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:56 am | Permalink

    I meant this actually

    Arya

  37. Chris Pierce
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:36 am | Permalink

    WW,

    I noticed that as well.

    I wonder what they cut out.

  38. Martin
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:44 am | Permalink

    WW,

    I’m guessing that it was an on-set shot that wasn’t overly posed – and could easily have had tech equip like lighting / camera booms in the background.

    It’s most jarring around Jorah’s head, where the edge should be as blurred as he is.

    No issue at all – just curious.

    The rest of great – although it does make you wonder what they are going to do with the wolves for S2 and beyond. The mother is obviously huge in comparison to the dogs used in S1.

  39. Dario
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    HBO, thank you for existing!

  40. Dominik Plewa
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:56 am | Permalink

    Miltos looks realy cool, though I’m a little disapointed by the fact that Arya is using her right hand.
    Costumes are goodl – come on people, it’s fantasy! There is really no need to make them look medieval if you can create something unique. They’re not distracting for me – sure, they look a little bit odd, but it’s an adaptation and some changes are impossible to avert. And most of the costumes are simply amazing – like the detail on Robert’s cloak. In the end they will all be stunning, I daresay. You just have to grow accustomed to it.
    The only thing I’m still worried is how the Dothraki look. I just can’t find any reason for changing thier appearence from unigue-and-interesting-culture to we-are-barabarians-who-can’t-properly-sew. That’s a huge drawback to me.

  41. fangrrrl
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:58 am | Permalink

    As far as I can remember there’s no scene in the book where Jon and Jaime directly interact. But at one point (maybe in the first or second Jon chapter of GOT) Jon thinks that Robert looks nothing like a king, while in his mind Jaime very much looks like one. I could imagine that in this scene Jon is either impressed by the great warrior Jaime – or that they have some sort of confrontation. After all, it seems that Jaime is set up to be the villain from very early on, and Jon of course is one of the main “heroes” of the series, so maybe they wanted to emphasise that?

  42. The Rabbit
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:01 am | Permalink

    On the King arrival pic, I think Jaime Sives (Jory) can be seen, and I think the guy on his right is our very own Two Feathers.
    Though, not sure about that, waiting for Two Feathers to show up here and tell us.

    Overall I like the custumes, Jaime s leather jacket is awesome (Lannisters could afford themselves cool leather jackets ;) ).

    Pic of Arya & Syrio is already a legendary one and I was literaly enchanted by cute puppies.

    Made a decision last night: I am not going to watch a couple od minutes in the series including Ned and Lady.
    I fear my heart would break. Look at these dog s/wolf s eyes. I think I might cry .

  43. ben
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:36 am | Permalink

    The pictures are awesome, but… why does Syrio have hair? I mean he’s supposed to be bald, right?

    Well, okay. I’m fine with it, I guess… but… still. He has a shaven head in the books, no?

  44. Rodario
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    What a beautiful morning with all those pics! Am I imagining it or is there lying an object in leather between Jaime’s feet? A knife?

  45. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    AAARGHHH four new posts eleven new pics millions of new comments TCA panel coverage aaargh! Watch a trout go crazy! Thanks guys!

    PS: next one who says Cat is ugly, I will eat their brains. ;) ;) ;)

  46. sjwenings
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:02 am | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: PS: next one who says Cat is ugly, I will eat their brains.   Quote  Reply

    I don’t remember anyone saying she’s ugly, just too old-looking. Of which i disagree, btw.

  47. Crannogman
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    Has anyone stopped to consider that HBO might be deliberately winding us up by showing Arya using her Sword right-handed?
    I can just see some smart guy saying ‘Let’s see how rabid they go on WiC when we publish this!’

  48. Hear Me Roar
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:21 am | Permalink

    Whoa … not much sleep for me (for obvious reasons) and then when I turn on the laptop again in the morning, my bleary eyes get to see these 11 new photos. Man!

    Arya&Syrio is the obvious winner, and the finding of the pups comes a close second. So many things to melt your heart and then break it. Very pleased by the beuatiful Cat portrait as well.

  49. Skyweir
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    The costumes have all grown on me, but I still think a mismatch of styles makes the show to much “fantasy”, and it will detract from the percived production value.

    Series like “Legend of the Seeker ” and “Hercules” do the same thing, and it just looks fake. People often have an instinctive idea of how real world clothes look, and things that deviate to much seems fake, regardless of the effort put into design and production. HBO have said that they are deviating from medival design to escape classical fantasy thropes, but really that is the classical fantasy thrope on TV: “Medivalish” costumes, in a missmash of styles and obviously made in the 21th century, that takes you right out of the world they are trying to create.

  50. Johan Sporre
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Most of this was awesome, but Lady breaks my heart.

    The Arya-Syrio-photo seems very staged (but looking very awesome) so I wouldn’t worry about the sword in her right hand. And besides, isn’t Arya training the right hand as well?

  51. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    OK, calmed down. Still overcome by awesomeness, but I did notice some things.

    Rodario: What a beautiful morning with all those pics! Am I imagining it or is there lying an object in leather between Jaime’s feet? A knife?

    My first thought was that it’s a disguised mark for the actor to know where to stand. There’s one in the pic of Robert greeting the Starks too. Maybe to be edited in post-production, or maybe there’s just junk lying around in Winterfell.

    Lex: Chris, HODOR!

    Thanks for pointing him out! Got to get used to Hodor’s look, but it’s definitely striking. Always pictured him as somewhat Neanderthal. Kristian is a handsome, well-groomed guy. I foresee much love for Hodor.

    - Love the Jaime-Jon scene. It looks like Jaime shook Jon’s hand and then pulled him close to show what a smug bastard he is. Still not impressed by the Nazi coat, but I’ll have to see it more in context.

    - Right-handed Arya: it is conceivable that Syrio taught her how to defend herself with both hands, in case her left was incapacitated. Miltos FTW.

    - Who’s the guy with longish hair next to Robb in the horse scene? He’s supposed to be Ned, but from behind his hair looks different than in the Robert-Stark scene. Like he had a part in his hair. Early Ned with Bean’s natural hair? Still not much impressed by Robb, nothing against him, he just doesn’t click for me. Maybe it’s the lack of red hair.

    - Bran’s belt across his chest: he has it in the archery pic too, it looks like a padding of some sort for training.

    - Future massive direwolves: the less CGI, the better. I hope they’ll solve the problem with a mix of good direction, forced perspective, canines with a reasonable resemblance to direwolves and maybe just a touch of CGI to lengthen the snout, etc.

    - BAWL for the look in the eyes of a certain actress… with fur…

    sjwenings:
    I don’t remember anyone saying she’s ugly, just too old-looking. Of which i disagree, btw.

    Good for you, or I’d eat your brains anyway. ;)

  52. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    Nice to get some new, cool pictures. There’s really a good stream of news these days.

    It’s a bit of a downer to see the nitpicking that always follows though but it’s expected. I’m a bit surprised that people think things look too modern. I could not even remotely imagine someone today to wear a jacket like Jaime does and perhaps people don’t realize how much inspiration that’s taken from earlier times in our modern clothes.

    Personally I’m glad that they are trying to set themselves apart from pure medieval movies and series. Westeros seems to be a place where there are tons of contact with other cultures and the rich will like fashion (that’s always been the case with humans) and fashion requires variation, hence it’s likely that they take things from all over the world. And it’s not like the books aren’t exaggerated if you compare to medieval history either.

  53. Steve the Pirate
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    I’m SO happy that they let Miltos keep his own curly hair for Syrio. Syrio being bald is irrelevant to the story. It could just be that I’m a sucker for curly hair, but I love this version of Syrio.
    It doesn’t matter if Arya winds up right-handed, but my first thought when I saw the pic was that they reversed the image so the sword hand was changed. It happens all the time in movies and stills, no reason to think it wouldn’t happen here too.

  54. Sensuki
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    are you ready to learn the dance? ;)

  55. ezeqiel
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: – Who’s the guy with longish hair next to Robb in the horse scene? He’s supposed to be Ned, but from behind his hair looks different than in the Robert-Stark scene. Like he had a part in his hair. Early Ned with Bean’s natural hair?

    I took that to be possibly Theon with the new dark hair look for the full series – in the other pic of Ned & horse, Ned is to the left of Robb, almost as though he has dismounted and Robb is taking the horse for him… then in the next picture Ned has walked into the foreground and Robb’s line of sight is following him.
    Added to that that the wold fur on Ned’s cloak/shoulders has a whiter, coarser look then on the character you are wondering about. Just me thoughts! :)

  56. Tobias Wedin
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    I remember when I started reading A Game of Thrones ages and ages ago. What got me hooked after just a few pages was the direwolves.

    They are my greatest love in the books and they are THE essential sign of prophecy in the making. There are higher powers at work and the children of Stark is at the center of it.

    Since wolves are my favourite animal, I fight for their rights, I study them and Ive got a dog that very much resembles a a wolf, I naturally had vivid mental images of the direwolves while reading.
    Already as pups the sight of them shock and awe and the children beside them are met with raised eyebrows and curious looks. How many times while reading the books didnt this scenario make us smile?

    They were clearly not dogs and clearly not even wolves. At the table even the meanest dog would shy from them.
    And there was the promise of future growth to the size of a pony. How I dreamed of that day.

    And now again I see the picture of lady. Sure, she is the smallest and the gentlest of the pups but still. I feel a great disapointment.
    Who would raise eyebrows seeing that…..dog?

    I know the direwolves must have presented lots of decisions and compromise in making this. Perhaps the greatest single problem with the whole production.
    I dont even know of a better sollution myself since CGI is extremely expensive and difficult when it comes to furry animals.

    Still the sight of that two year old dog is a disapointment to me…

    Everything else looks sweet as always….

  57. Hear Me Roar
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    In Joffrey’s photo, is that a piece of Sansa’s blue gown at the right edge? #Hawkeye :P

  58. rorschach-
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues,

    Yep, the leather thingys are standmarks for actors. Much better to use than try to tape white cross to muddy ground.

    I’m probably only one who doesn’t like the Syrio-Arya pic. Don’t get me wrong, there is good promise of awesomeness in there like Aryas face and Ned fatherly observing in background but the picture seems so staged and the poses of fighters seem so unnatural. Miltos looks bit like a frog ready to jump. Squack. Also I think that his face should be bit more menacing. They are training to kill there.

    Also little nitpicks about bad photoshopping and picture manipulation, I do it for my living, but nothing major.

    But Cat on the otherhand, hot damn look at those eyes. You can see everything that is coming in those eyes. Really good. Also my mancrush for Jon just grows. Truly happy to get these nice tidbits of series again. I think I’m gonna have to make a wall sized calendar from actor/scene/prop pictures to countdown into April. Could rip one piece away every morning.

  59. Johan Sporre
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar,

    I thought about it and it’s possible. The colour and that symbol on the cuff are similar, but I think the cut of the sleeve and the placing in the shot (so much closer to the ground) makes it less likely.

  60. Petter Kristian Vikestad
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Holy mother of Thor! Great pics, again.

  61. Gaz
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    is that hodor on the right with the white hair??

  62. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    ezeqiel:
    I took that to be possibly Theon with the new dark hair look for the full series – in the other pic of Ned & horse, Ned is to the left of Robb, almost as though he has dismounted and Robb is taking the horse for him… then in the next picture Ned has walked into the foreground and Robb’s line of sight is following him.
    Added to that that the wold fur on Ned’s cloak/shoulders has a whiter, coarser look then on the character you are wondering about. Just me thoughts!

    Oh yes, I hadn’t thought of Theon. I rarely think of Theon. ;)

    rorschach-: Blackfish Blues,
    Yep, the leather thingys are standmarks for actors. Much better to use than try to tape white cross to muddy ground.

    Thanks for confirming that, rorschach. Are you one of the lucky ones who was present during the shooting?

  63. Grimtuesday
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    My one little quibble in this group of pictures is Syrio’s clothes. I always imagined him dressed rather flamboyantly with bright colors, but like I said. it’s just a little thing so it’s not like it’s going to bother me at all.

  64. Porcupine Tree
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Bob Hoskins: I meant this actuallyArya    

    That made me laugh out loud!!

  65. Rabid Bogling
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Jaime’s coat isn’t that bad, actually. Has a kind of rough khalat look about it. Which is in keeping with the Lannisters vaguely asiatic influences.

  66. JD
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Jose: Why is Bran wearing a belt across his chest?And wow that supple leather on Jaime! Looks like the most comfortable jacket ever made.    

    It looks to me like a kote, Japanese armor sleeves. If you have seen Princess Mononoke, the main character wears only those for parts of the movie, so you can better see what they are:

    There is also a bit of a historical description here:

    Someone more well-versed in armor than I could probably say if there was a European version of it.

    About Arya/Syrio: While I sort of doubt this is the case, it would be prudent to acknowledge that Maisie wanted to be left-handed, but maybe it didn’t work out. It would be a headache for the continuity person to make sure she wasn’t using her dominant hand in any random scene, and it’s really such a minor point, if a beloved one. However, I tend to agree with others who point out that she is probably being trained to use both hands.

  67. JD
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 11:29 am | Permalink
  68. Sareeta
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    No complaints from me.

    I’m officially on board with Dany’s hair. Emilia looks great and Mo Ryan seems to be impressed with her acting skills, which is most important to me in the end.

    I love the Syrio-Arya-Ned picture. I really like Arya’s clothes and hair style and can definitely see how she can pass as a boy.

    Also a big fan of Jaime’s coat. What an arrogant looking guy! I’m curious about the scene between Jaime and Jon. By the way, Jon looks great, as usual.

    As much as I hate Joffrey, his coat looks splendid. Also, somehow he looks older and taller than the impression I got from other pictures.

    Who is Robb standing with? Is it Ned whose back is to the camera?

    Favorite picture: Robb and Bran holding the puppies. So cute!

    Saddest picture since Arya on the statue from EW pictures goes to Ned and Lady….

    By the way, the wolves are getting so much love, but the horses are very pretty as well.

  69. Andrija Andrew P
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Am I the only nerd who saved looking at the pictures for last and went on to read all the new articles and texts first? XD

    I like the overall high middle ages thing going on, no disappointments there. As for Cat looking too old, well she had like 15 children and since I have been converted from Michelle Fairley-hater into a fan I am seriously gonna have to defend her honour if anybody should trash-talk about her!! And now, excuse me I have to geek out and call a few of my friends to scream in their ears XD

  70. Sekhmet
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Grimtuesday: My one little quibble in this group of pictures is Syrio’s clothes. I always imagined him dressed rather flamboyantly with bright colors, but like I said. it’s just a little thing so it’s not like it’s going to bother me at all.    

    Umm, they’re practicing. Why would he be dressed in his good clothes?

    I’m always so floored with all the nitpicks! I understand how much people love the novels. I do too. As long as the story stays true, I’m not going to be unhappy that Arya is not a lefty, the costumes do not look hand sewn, there are extra scenes or scenes are changed a bit as long as the story is good and compelling. Exposition has to proceed a little differently in a film than in a book, but we all know that….even the pickers.

    I was going to come here and say, “I wondered whether these stills made some of the nitpickers happier.” Should have known better.

    It’s a hallmark of studio stills that they looked a bit posed.

    I’ve like the costumes. I always imagined variety in Westeros and beyond. I’ve not seen a good photo of a Dothraki yet, so I reserve judgment.

    My only nitpick, but one that makes me smile is that the pups look a little warm and fuzzy for having been pulled out of a dead direwolf. If that’s my only problem, things will be wonderful.

  71. Laurent Guillemard
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    For those who think the stance of Arya and Syrio is too “posed”, remember that Arya is learning the basics at that stage and that early steps in martial arts, iuncluding fencing, can be very formalized, with very precise, even exaggerated poses, specific sets of moves which are then practiced over and over until they become smooth and natural.

  72. Wolfheart
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    After seeing so much new stuff and more closeups of the costumes. HBO should have gone with a new costume designer after the pilot, Michelle clapton just doesn’t seem to do period to fantasy good at all (and Ive seen her other work, never impressed). Maybe she was the cheapest choice.

    Many of the costumes look ill fashioned to look good on the body and the terrible influence of modern and even a bit of star wars fashion thrown in. The over use of leather in so many of the cast’s costuming harks back to and I dare say it Xena and Hercules, and leather never EVER drapes well on the body when thick or layered, unless fitted. Clapton really should have stuck with more fabric for costuming. Would have allowed for far more color choices and more color. You CAN get gritty and vibrant at the same time. What she hit here is dark, gritty, cheap and leather cheesy.

    THere’s far to much mash-ups of modern styles and slight medieval elements in the costume design. WHen I watched her HBO video on the costuming. I wanted to hit a button that dunked her in the water.

    I still wish HBO went with white hair for Dany instead of platinum blonde. And the lilac eyes…*sigh* *sniffle*

    *dawns riot gear to protect for the hurled stones* hehe

  73. TheonGreyjoyous
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Wolfheart,

    I don’t really see an abundance of leather on characters who aren’t Starks or northerners. Most of the leather costumes are worn by the characters who live in the climate that would necessitate such clothing. If you look at the kind of stuff they’re wearing in King’s Landing or in Essos, the style of clothing is much more silky and airy. Hell, people were up-in-arms about the civilians and their Rome-ish dress.

    All in all I think the costumes make a lot of sense.

  74. The Rabbit
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Hey girls and boys!

    For those with the Twitter account:
    Mo Ryan started to collect the questions from fans on twitter for Emilia Clarke and Sean Bean.
    Mo will pick a one for each actor and ask them. Probably she got some exclusive or some of the kind.
    The deadline for questions is: Noon – Pacific Time.

  75. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Wolfheart,

    No need to be afraid of hurled stones, everyone are entitled to their opinion. But opinions aside I don’t agree with your statement that Clapton should have been replaced or must have been cheap (which is comments that go outside your opinions) since no matter what you think of the look, I haven’t seen the show getting much else but praise for it’s look and production quality in various articles. The complaints have generally been pretty small so I don’t see how she hasn’t done her job.

  76. John
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Wolfheart,

    I should like to hit a button and dunk you in… lava.

  77. Zack
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin: And now again I see the picture of lady. Sure, she is the smallest and the gentlest of the pups but still. I feel a great disapointment.
    Who would raise eyebrows seeing that…..dog?

    Yep. The wolves are pretty much my only disappointment here, but I’m holding out hope they’ll look like more menacing than the standard dog that millions of people already have as pets. Doesn’t Lady’s death happen at the same time Grey Wind is fighting alongside Robb, scaring the crap out of enemy soldiers? They should be bigger and look like wolves.

  78. Steven Scott
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    No Lady dies very early before Ned gets to Kings Landing. Robb doesn’t even call the banners until Ned is imprisoned.

  79. Zack
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Gah! How could I have my timeline so screwy? Thank you! There’s much less grounds for concern at this stage then

  80. saluk
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if you can really blame the costume designer when her direction from above was always to pull influences from many places, and not try too hard to stick to realistic european influences. The asian influence for instance was not her choice but something higher ups outlined as something they would like to see. Every drawing and design has had to be signed off on by the team, so this is very much a collective effort.

    I for one love both the designs and the direction, but make sure not to throw blame around where it shouldn’t be.

  81. Rory
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m frustrated by how personal people take each production decision, though it can be an entertaining distraction.

    To quote Voltaire “The Perfect is the enemy of the Good”

    In other words to do this show exactly as written would prohibit it being made at all. Some compromises must be made, many that we don’t always agree with. It is different than I imagined but so far I love the look of everything. The only perfect vision of these books exists in our own individual imaginations.

  82. reedgirl
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Jaime’s coat is perfect. It looks like the kind of piece you could hide a lot of backup weaponry in. Short-sword on the right hip, knife in the back, plate on the thigh/calves. This man is a warrior, itching for a fight, but also /expensive. The coat doesn’t restrict movement, would offer a primary level of protection during an attack, and would hide small motions of the hips, thighs, stance, etc that might tip off an opponent as to his next move. This guy is deadly with a sword and he knows it.

    It looks like Robb is talking to Benjen in the scene with the two white horses. Imho.

    Love the horses, by the way. I’m a fan of the white ones for the Starks. Gives them a bit of pomp/pride befitting a ruling house.

    I think that’s Jon standing next to Bran in the direwolf scene. He wears mostly black clothes. But yes, if it’s Theon he could be offering to kill them like he regularly does…

  83. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Re: Direwolves. Have you seen the size of the dead direwolf mother? Of course they’re gonna make the direwolves huge! Probably in later seasons though.

  84. Tysnow
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    I am starting to believe Wolfheart is one of those fans that wanted the series to adhere minutely to the books, especially in the design. I believe the only design that could muster Wolfheart’s approval is if the all the costumes mimicked the apparel and armor from mid 15th century England (War of the Roses). I have come across a few of them over on Westeros that were extremely upset that each House and region had their own distinct look instead of adhering religiously to 15th century England, especially the lack of colored surcoats over mail for all soldiers and the different armor at the tourney instead of them all looking alike, with only colors and sigils telling the difference.
    I for one like the design tone HBO went for, like in the video they wanted to seperate Westeros from being compared to an exact period in our history but a world that evolved with their own design but that utilized bits and pieces from eras in our history.
    If you zoom in closely to the armor and costumes you can see the loving care that went into their creation, the detail in the fabric, the workmanship on the armor and the layers of clothing on each person.
    One more thing, I WANT JAIME’S COAT, or a facsmile thereof, hopefully HBO will create a GoT clothing line to make available some of the designs to the public.
    I would pay five Franklins for an authentic replica of that coat.

  85. TheonGreyjoyous
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    reedgirl,

    I’m pretty sure that’s Jory Robb is talking to.

  86. FlayedandDisplayed
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    I too am happy that the look is no exact replication of some period of Earth history. I’ve been re-reading the books and stumbling over the scattered references to the 5000 years or so that Westeros seems to have been ‘stuck’ with medieval technology and politics. GRRM hasn’t wanted to explain the way the world works, it just is. Sticking with a single period and culture of Earth history isn’t important to the storyline and would to me feel like an attempt to ground the story too closely to Earth, making things like the uber-extended medieval period of Westeros even more jarring. I for one am glad that HBO’s gone in this direction, and that the die-hards minutists are not in charge of the production.

  87. Lord Ned's Head
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Fully cured of my recent cabin fever with the release of these new pics! Everything looks great!

  88. TheReader
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Ugh..Ned and Lady. That scene is going to kill me to watch.

  89. Putter
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    omg, if i had a nickle for every complaint about an animal on this show, I would be richer than the guys who just won the megamillions. Seriously? Those direwolves aren’t good enough for you? What were you expecting? They look as close to a wolf as anyone EVER could hope for, but they still aren’t good enough? Would you prefer a crappy looking Direwolf CGI’d in next to them?

    I can stomach most complaints, but these complaints about direwolves and “incorrect” horses are just plain ludicrous. First of all, you cannot have a real wolf on set. They are untempered, wild animals and somehow i think having one go off and rip the throat out of one of the star actors would be a slightly bigger continuity problem than having a dog that has been raised to look nearly identical.

    “Buts its fur is (generic excuse here) and its ears are (generic complaint here) and its eyes are (generic whine here) and its snout is (generic unrelated statement here) are all fine and dandy and dont make one lick of difference. Have any of you ever SEEN a direwolf? No, I didn’t think so. So you don’t know what they look like and they aren’t exactly what you pictured get over it.

    As for how big they are going to get, it takes time to get there. Remember reading the books, and Bran picks one up, they start out small, are going to take time to get big. In the books, it was mentioned how they were not full grown. I think its RIDICULOUS to expect Lady to be as big as her mother when that picture is supp0sed to have been taken. I mean come on. Direwolves (or dogs sorry) don’t magically become full grown in a matter of a few weeks.

    I mean I am all for being like “I am concerned about this” or “I am not 100% sold on this” but the outright bitching about something that is DONE is just crazy. I mean its like the show is ruined completly for some of you. And if it is, I suggest not watching. Becuase if the direwolves have caused this much pain, I guarantee you the rest of the show will suck your soul out and stomp on it, and to be honest, I don’t think anyone wants to hear your every single little complaint, especially about something that will not, and cannot change.

    I mean its like the people still bitching about certain actors or actresses being cast. ITS DONE. THEY ARE IN IT. MOVE ON!

    Rant over.

  90. Hollyoak
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Putter, you are my Hero. Now, about the color of the dirt…

  91. rorschach-
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    1) CRITICISM OF MINOR DETAIL
    2) DEFENCE WITH MAJOR PASSION
    1) HINT OF PERSONAL FLAW IN DISGUISE
    2) FLAME OF ANGER
    1) “IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT”
    2)POINTING OF SPELLING MISTAKES
    1)IGNORING EVERY POINT OF ARGUMENT
    2)FLOODING, RANTING AND APPEALING TO OTHERS
    1)YOUR MULLET SMELLS LIKE PIGS ARSE

    “By criticism we grow stronger.”

  92. mummer
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Putter,

    I’m inclined to agree with your rant, but I must point out that it’s not really impossible to have a real wolf on set. There are trained wolves who perform in movies and on TV– HBO has used them on True Blood. That doesn’t mean it would’ve been feasible to use them in GOT, where the direwolves interact a lot more with human characters, and are around dogs and horses a lot, but I think you’ve exaggerated their unmanageability a bit.

    Also I don’t think it’s really worth reacting so strongly to comments like Zack’s that were just based on misremembering some things in the book. I don’t think anyone has actually said that the wolves are supposed to grow to full size immediately, it’s just that some people haven’t read the books in a while and are foggy on the timeline.

  93. Aryas Horse
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Doesnt Maisie look like a young Eliza Dushku (Faith from Buffy) in this pic?

  94. KG
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    1. If that ornamentation on Syrio’s jacket is a row of buttons, then the picture hasn’t been flipped. If they are button loops, then it has, since men’s jackets button on the right.

    2. That pose is all too familiar to me as a fencer. If it isn’t a deliberately posed shot, then it is the dreaded , icy “NO” – whereupon your instructor grabs your hands and puts them where they should be if you weren’t a stumbling idiot.

  95. Zack
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Lex: Re: Direwolves. Have you seen the size of the dead direwolf mother? Of course they’re gonna make the direwolves huge! Probably in later seasons though.    

    I’d be fine with that. As long as we don’t have to deal with overzealous defenses (you know of whom I’m referring) as people justify them looking the way they currently do for the remainder of the series by saying, “We don’t know how old the mother was, or how quickly direwolves grow.” I’m looking forward to Grey Wind taking out loads of men in the Whispering Wood, to Ghost (or was it Summer?) saving Jon’s ass as he makes his escape to the wall, and they’ll have to be visibly different from your garden variety dog to accomplish that. That’s not what I’m seeing in the photos so far, but who knows what steps they’re planning toward the final look?

    Forced perspective and minimal CGI enhancements will accomplish a great deal toward making those key scenes believable.

  96. KG
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    P. S. Museum Replicas is big on “authorized versions” of various fantasy gear. They’ve had everything from Kingdom of Heaven costumes all the way to Marvel Thor’s Mjolnir.

  97. Lex
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Forced perspective is MUCH more difficult than people think, even with stationary objects let alone moving animals. I doubt will get much forced perspective. Unfortunately we’ll most likely get CGI.

  98. ablaaa
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    TOO MUCH POST-PRODUCTION

    Especially Catelyn…

  99. KG
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    ablaaa,

    What?

  100. EvilClosetMonkey
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    I’m pretty sure it was mentioned at some point that they legally couldn’t use real wolves due to the child actors.

  101. FlayedandDisplayed
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Zack: or how quickly direwolves grow.

    When Ghost returns to Jon at the end of Storm of Swords, he’s twice as big as a normal wolf, and has grown larger (but thinner) since Jon had to leave him behind.

  102. FlayedandDisplayed
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Aryas Horse,

    not to me, and don’t wish that on us. She’s a showkiller.

  103. OneTooFree
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    for the people complaining about the animals, here’s some food for thought: while everyone here has probably read the books & knows what they are & what they become, these publicity photos are the first glimpse of the world for all of people who are not as versed in ways of Westeros as we.

    so with that in mind, why would HBO tip their entire hand before the show even starts? why show the wolves at the end of the show when they’re older, larger, and more intimidating? it’d be like if they showed Bran in the harness on Hodor’s back.

    have patience. D & D & Co. know what they’re doing

  104. Ser Hedgeknight
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Looks to me like the pic with Arya is shown the correct way. Yes she may be using her right hand but it does indeed look like a training shot where, as has been mentioned before, you start with set moves executed slowly and the instructor critiques and explains as you go. I agree she is probably being trained to be proficient with both hands.

    Having said that, the real reason I believe it is shown the correct way is because Ned’s ‘Hand’ pin is on his left side as shown in all previous clips of him.

  105. Inkasrain
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    So beautiful, I’m legitimately tempted to cry. And I’m going to nitpick on the positive side; did anyone notice Jaime and Joffery’s rings? It’s hard to tell, but I wonder if they might not be lion’s-head rings like the one Tyrion is wearing in the older shot from the sky cell. Another tiny detail I love.

  106. Crysania
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    I completely agree with putter…my husband and I were talking about this exact thing earlier and you summed up our discussion nicely.

    mummer: Putter, I’m inclined to agree with your rant, but I must point out that it’s not really impossible to have a real wolf on set. There are trained wolves who perform in movies and on TV– HBO has used them on True Blood. .  Quote  Reply

    As an ex die hard TB fan, the wolves used in TB were only used when actors were either not in the shot or were far enough away from the wolf that it was safe. When a scene required an actor to interact with a “wolf” a wolf/dog (most often husky) hybrid was used since they are much safer and you won’t get a maimed actor walking away from a scene. A good point was made about wolfs and children interacting since the only person on the TB cast to get to walk their wolf counterpart was 6’5″ Joe who played Alcide and their were still wolf trainers very close in case of any problems so somehow I don’t think they would let 4-5′ children walk a wolf in a shot where they would essentially be “alone” with the wolf.

    I think some people just forget to consider what is truly practical when making a movie or show. I call myself an ex die hard TB show because Allan Ball deviated so far from the books that it’s just not the same anymore and because GoT has replaced TB in my world. I hope that HBO has learned a bit about deviations and won’t pull a TB again.

  107. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Inkasrain,

    Yes, that’s a nice touch. I also like the way Joffrey seems to finger one of his rings in what seems like a nervous habit, that’s a detail I like about that picture.

  108. Sekhmet
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Those criticizing the fact that Jaime is even wearing leather, well it’s a horse person thing! We love leather, or now faux leather. It protects us from our beasts.

  109. Zack
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    FlayedandDisplayed:
    When Ghost returns to Jon at the end of Storm of Swords, he’s twice as big as a normal wolf, and has grown larger (but thinner) since Jon had to leave him behind.    

    Good to know!

    Re: Arya’s sword: Guys, it’s a good idea to train with both hands because you want to be ready in case your main hand is incapacitated. We see what happens when Jaime can no longer rely on his good hand, and hasn’t practiced with his other one. And if it turns out that Maisie put serious effort into learning to be ambidextrous but was simply unable to become convincing to a level satisfactory to the showrunners, I for one am not going to fault either her or the producers if they had to abandon the idea. Just knowing that she had even considered it is good enough for me.

  110. Tobias Wedin
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Putter,

    Cant really see the big trouble with critique.

    Is this a forum only for the expression of positive impressions?

    A happy festive one-sided debate where we all clap each others backs over a job well done?

    It could be, but it would make reading these threads far more boring.

    Yes, I am having a problem with the direwolves and since this is a forum about our impressions of what we have seen so far I think it is only right to express my concerns here.
    Diversity should always be celebrated.

    My main problem with the direwolves?

    Since I know my dogs that is exactly how I see Lady. The proportions is not that of a pup but of a young dog.
    You can always see how big a dog is going to grow by its leg joints and paws.
    Just as a human boy’s head is unproportionally big, so are they.
    For me this is as plain as taking a grown man and shrinking him to a third his size and then trying to pass him off as a toddler.
    This fact would make the built up illusion of reality crumble like a house of cards. Nevermind how authentic the man’s babycries would be.

    Hopefully the illusion of reality over all will be big enough to drown this fact but so far it hasnt because I have only these pictures upon to build so far.

    Now this is my point of view and perhaps others and it is not your thing to come here and tell me that this is nit-picking.
    Now, run along and mind your own business, dear Sir.

  111. Crysania
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin,

    I actually mention to my husband that it would be kinda cool if they could go in and make the direwolves paws larger to indicate that they are still growing so I agree with you there but then I thought is it really worth it? The time and expense put into making it look correct would probably not be worth the benefits. You also chance it coming across off and looking even worse.

    So I guess I am back to where I started that I think that given what is possible they chose the best option. I definitely wouldn’t want CGI ala the twilight wolves (which, going back to TB, was a huge debate there too) and that is what worries me about future seasons of GoT.

    But this is just my opinion, just like yours and Putters…at least we generally back up our opinions with explainations unlike the IMDB TB board which makes it nearly impossible to read.

  112. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    As for suspension of disbelief, illusion of reality or whatever you want to call it, I’m of the opinion that too many viewers (talking in general, not about GoT) are way too lazy. In my opinion the viewer should feel obligated to do his best to immerse himself in what he’s watching, rather than accepting getting caught up on details etc.

    One example could be while watching the first Terminator movie. At the end there’s an animated robot which isn’t even moderately well done by todays standards (to be very kind). Still a “good viewer” will still get immersed in the scene because he does his best to do so, while others will just sit and say “that looks stupid/unrealistic”.

    Now you can of course not control yourself 100% but a lot of things will cease to be problems for the viewers that actually do their best to focus on the good parts and have oversight with the less well executed stuff.

  113. FlayedandDisplayed
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin,

    Then let us urge the post production fx team to shop the feet of the dogs to mega-size. I’m sure that will look much better. Perhaps the eyes too, part of the appeal of puppies is that their eyes are so big. In humans a baby’s eye is 75% the size it will be as an adult. assuming a full grown direwolf is at least 4 times the size of a normal one (and the bitch corpse is pretty large in the pic) then the eyes ought to be huge. HBO needs to have a specific FX team dedicated to the doggies. Even if the show has to be delayed a year to get it right and only lasts one season due to budget blowout, these details MUST be perfect or the show is a DISASTER.

  114. FlayedandDisplayed
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Crysania,

    and there you are being all reasonable with the same points while I wasn’t refreshing my page :)

  115. Crysania
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    FlayedandDisplayed,

    hahaha it normally happens to me or someone else has already argued my point so I never post haha

  116. Tysnow
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    rorschach-,

    True, metal only gets sharper if you hone it continuously.

    If everyone agreed, this site would be boring, it is the constant exchange of opinions, differences, observations and suggestions from all the readers that endear so many fans to this site. Another reason is that the aforementioned individuals are of an intelligent nature and therefore the vast majority of postings show the educated quality of AsoIaF and WiC members.

  117. Tysnow
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    This is to those who wanted the 15th century European look for costumes and armor, after your weekly GoT fix you can tune into the Borgias over on ST (I know I will as the Borgia have always intrigued me), as I am quite sure your eyes and mind will overload with all the 15th century production design being recreated for that series.

  118. Dennai
    Posted January 8, 2011 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin,

    Now this is my point of view and perhaps others and it is not your thing to come here and tell me that this is nit-picking.

    That’s nit-picking, not matter what you want to call it.

    Direwolves looking like dogs, or reminding you dogs have nil weight to the storytelling, just like Jaime’s long leather coat, or too modern looking Hand’s chair, or dark eyebrows in Dany have very little influence in the way the plot will flow.

    Now, you are as entitled as everybody else in here to nit-pick as much as you like, but don’t delude yourself thinking that your opinions about direwolves are more important and relevant that, say, the asian look in Lannisters armor. Both are nit-picking, both are fun to argue about, neither will affect much in how compelling the show is gonna be.

  119. Putter
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin,

    I never said there couldn’t be critique, or non-positive attitudes, but those should be rounded out with constructive criticism or a positive remark somewhere else.

    Most of the comments I see are not that, but just bitching. “I don’t like it, never will, and hate the show now because of it” statements add NOTHING to any discussion. It is simply someone coming in here, and complaining about something with no helpful resolution or purpose, other than to tell everyone how much THEY don’t like it.

    As I said, I have looked over most of those posts on most topics, but the “dogs” thing is jsut so ridiculous I had to say something.

    I am sorry we are not giving your endless and fruitless complaints the proper weight and respect you feel they deserve, but until you come up with something of note to discuss, perhaps you can keep your whining to yourself, as no one really likes to have to read little immature temper tantrums. Thank you ;)

  120. Martin
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 4:36 am | Permalink

    My thoughts on the Dire Wolves.

    I do think they are perhaps too small and aren’t imposing enough when compared to the reactions they garner in the books. I do however have a solution.

    After much research, and bear with me here, I think they should have used Great Danes instead of German Shepherds – they could then have fabricated highly specialised wigs for these dogs and dressed them as wolves.

    Of course we may then have ended up with a Great-Dane-Hair-Gate to rival Jaime.

  121. Hear Me Roar
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 4:41 am | Permalink

    Guys, we like and welcome the discussion, the more arguments for one or the other point of view the better. Just keep it civil and don’t use any personal attacks, and everything will be fine ;)

  122. Cornslayer
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    Perhaps WIC should ban every comment, negative AND positive, that does not add to the “discussion”. That way we will be saved from those comments that attack and scold others for expressing their opinions and this place will be much better off.

  123. Dennai
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    Cornslayer,

    Perhaps WIC should ban every comment, negative AND positive, that does not add to the “discussion”.

    …like this very post.

  124. mimi
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Perhaps I’m the average ‘older’ fan….and the wolves look fine to me. I wouldn’t know the difference at all. Not an expert.

    Dany’s eyebrows look fine too. I spent some time, years ago *ahem*, as a bleached blonde with dark eyebrows. Didn’t mind then, don’t mind now.

    I suspect most of the fine details of the costumes will never be noticed by most viewers. The overall general look will have the impact and give the ‘feel’ of the world of Westeros.

    Appealing to the general public IS important if we want this series to go on……

    BUT, it is great fun to discuss the wonderful uber-fine details HBO has developed.

  125. Shinyteapot
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    All this news has been brilliant. Love all the pictures- I’m surprised Syrio isn’t bald but it’s not important to the plot so not that big a deal.

    There isn’t a perfect solution for the direwolves. Actually breeding wolf-dog hybrids that get as big as a pony is asking a bit much for a TV show! I want the direwolves to look real, which, barring sudden massive improvements in technology, means no CGI- CGI doesn’t work well for furry creatures. So that means real animals or animatronics. While they’re small, definitely real animals will look better- even if their paws aren’t quite the right size. In that scene with Ned and Lady, I won’t be looking at her paws. I’ll be too busy crying t/o see anything.

    When the direwolves get bigger, I hope a combination of forced perspective/using greenscreen to increase size of animals is used most of the time, perhaps animatronics where they have to interact with humans- a good, realistic puppet can be far better than CGI particularly for short shots (e.g. Jon pats Ghost, we need only see his hand pat what looks like a huge flank of white fur, and we see him walking next to Ghost who has been increased in size by filiming actor then dog/wolf on greenscreen).

    I can’t actually think of that many times, so far, when fully grown wolves need to interact with humans apart from Jon and Ghost. If I remember correctly, Grey Wind isn’t fully grown when we see him fight- he needs to be big enough to cause a lot of damage, but there are certainly dogs or hybrids big enough for that. Exaggerate it by casting short stuntmen to be attacked by him.

  126. Tobias Wedin
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    Putter,

    Are you the spokesperson for winter-is-coming.net? You sure sound like it.

    I would also like to say that my negative critique about certain things in the show is far more interesting reading than you criticizing my criticism. THAT is a real waste of space and much more beside the point.

  127. miltos Yerolemou
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    just to add my voice to the left handed/right handed debate….
    what you didn’t and haven’t seen in this ‘still’ is what Arya was attempting to do before i disarmed her.
    i can assure you all, and from has been passed on by various fans and members of production that Maisie does indeed train and fight with her left hand.
    ‘Nuff Said.
    nice to see you all again…

    byryn,

  128. Tar Kidho
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Thanks a lot Miltos, great to have such in(nermost)side information on this board!

  129. sjwenings
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,

    Thanks, Miltos! What hand she uses was not really that important anyway, but we like to discuss every little detail here, as i’m sure you have noticed. Cool stuff.

  130. spacechampion
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    I knew the dancing master himself would settle it, and in an intriguing way.

  131. coltaine777
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,

    Thanks…You kick ass

  132. Johan Sporre
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,

    I’m very much looking forward to your scenes with Maisie. From what’s been glimpsed they seem even more awesome than in the book.

  133. Hear Me Roar
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,

    Thanks for dropping by once again,
    it’s nice to see you, in-character for the first time! This is a great still, looking forward to your scenes with Arya a whole lot.

  134. Ser_G
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,
    Awesome. Thanks for coming here and confirming. I had a sneaking suspicion that that still might have been the aftermath of an attempted Princess-Bride-style switcheroo moment. Your scenes should be such fun to watch unfold.

  135. Zack
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,

    Thank you for dropping in & clarifying. I had a feeling concern was premature :)

    Your scenes with her are some of my most anticipated of this season.

  136. Inkasrain
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar: miltos Yerolemou,
    Thanks for dropping by once again,
    it’s nice to see you, in-character for the first time! This is a great still, looking forward to your scenes with Arya a whole lot.    

    Ditto this. (Or rather, “just so.”) I’m personally hoping we get a comic scene involving Arya’s frequent invocation of “Syrio says…”

  137. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,

    Thank you for stopping by to give some extra insight. As great as the series seem it’s still certainly enhanced by having actors that could care enough to do something like this. I can’t wait to see these scenes.

  138. Nicole Shaddix
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Man, it has got to mean something that these actors care so much about the show and the source material and the fans to pay attention to this board, read through a comment list that is +100 and actually chime in on our discussion! Militos, you rock, sir! Thanks for taking such good care of our Arya and telling us whats up ;-)

  139. Sekhmet
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin: Putter,
    Cant really see the big trouble with critique.Is this a forum only for the expression of positive impressions?A happy festive one-sided debate where we all clap each others backs over a job well done?It could be, but it would make reading these threads far more boring.Yes, I am having a problem with the direwolves and since this is a forum about our impressions of what we have seen so far I think it is only right to express my concerns here.
    Diversity should always be celebrated.My main problem with the direwolves?Since I know my dogs that is exactly how I see Lady. The proportions is not that of a pup but of a young dog.
    You can always see how big a dog is going to grow by its leg joints and paws.
    Just as a human boy’s head is unproportionally big, so are they.
    For me this is as plain as taking a grown man and shrinking him to a third his size and then trying to pass him off as a toddler.
    This fact would make the built up illusion of reality crumble like a house of cards. Nevermind how authentic the man’s babycries would be.Hopefully the illusion of reality over all will be big enough to drown this fact but so far it hasnt because I have only these pictures upon to build so far.Now this is my point of view and perhaps others and it is not your thing to come here and tell me that this is nit-picking.
    Now, run along and mind your own business, dear Sir.    

    So what do you suggest? Is there a way to solve that problem that would make you happy?

    Critiques are fine, but I like to see ones that have constructive suggestions.

  140. David Thomas
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Putter,

    You are my hero.

  141. Putter
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin: Putter,
    Are you the spokesperson for winter-is-coming.net? You sure sound like it.I would also like to say that my negative critique about certain things in the show is far more interesting reading than you criticizing my criticism. THAT is a real waste of space and much more beside the point.    

    Thanks.

    As I said, yours wasn’t a critique, just complaining.

    Thanks Miltos! I had a hunch that was what had happened in that picture. I am really excited for the needlework lessons! They are some of my favorite scenes from the first book, and they look nearly just as I imagined them :D

  142. Putter
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    David Thomas: Putter,
    You are my hero.    

    Thanks! :D

  143. David Thomas
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin: Cant really see the big trouble with critique. Is this a forum only for the expression of positive impressions?

    Well, for one, this forum is whatever we make it to be. But I totally get Putter’s point. There’s a big difference between criticizing actual choices that D&D or the artisans/actors make–such as “the eyebrows make the hair look like a wig, and that’s distracting and seems unnecessary”–and whinging that “silver eyebrows are a major plot point.”

    Why is it OK for someone to freak out about whether Arya is using her left or right hand, but not OK for someone to freak out that those people are freaking out?

    I’m freaking out that someone is freaking out that others freaked out, and it’s getting freaky!

  144. userj
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    PUPPIEZ!!!!111oneone

  145. Peltast
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s safe to say that none of the people complaining about details are going to boycott the series because of them…. I mean, anyone who cares enough to whinge and nitpick about minor details like the color of the Targs’ eyebrows are clearly fans, eh? :S

    Speaking for myself, whatever minor misgivings I may have about certain artistic choices, GoT is still going to be THE event of the year for me.

  146. Tobias Wedin
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Sekhmet,

    Constructive suggestions?
    Season one is in post production right now so its a bit late for constructive suggestions.

    I do think the choice of Lady is a bad one and a constructive suggestion would then be to
    find a wolf-hybrid and reshoot all scenes with the said direwolf.
    But that would be a very silly suggestion, so Im not saying that.

    Putter,

    People have oppinions about blond hair, eyes, eyebrows, chairs, wigs and so forth, but my
    issue with the direwolves is not critique, its complaining?
    Please tell me the difference between critique and complaining.
    I am so eager to learn this and you seem to be sitting with all the answers.

    David Thomas,

    So having Lady being played by a dog wasnt a choice?
    They could have chosen CGI in some form. Either making the animal from scratch or otherwise
    enhancing and changing certain parts of the animal. They could have chosen a wolf or they could
    have chosen a wolf hybrid.
    These are choises just as eyebrows or wigs….thing that I dont mind

    You say that it is okay for people to freak out about Arya using the left or right hand
    and it is okay to freak out about others getting freaked out?
    But it is NOT okay to freak out over the CHOICE of Lady???
    You really lost me there.

    …..

    Now these three people are getting all worked up about me airing my opinion as if they were
    white knights and I somehow was molesting their fair lady.
    Obviously naming any negative input puts people here in somewhat of a panic.
    I have been here from the start under nicknames such as c0venant and czarnian and I find this
    to be a place for news and discussion. Discussion means airing ones opinion….as you are right now.

    You may complain all you like about this, but there is zilch you can do about it.
    You keep adressing me and turning this into somewhat of a meta-issue.

    Now be quiet or directly adress my opinion about Lady, because that was the point.
    Discussing me and if what I say is critique or complaining wasnt.

    My opinion is that I would much rather have seen a CGI-enhanced wolf-hybrid playing the part of Lady
    than this weak looking dog.

  147. purplejilly
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I think the whole entire point of the Internet is to allow fans to nitpick,whine, complain, and argue fervently for why THEIR preferred detail is of utmost importance, and should be included by all means! That’s how it makes fan message boards fun. How boring if everyone agreed. I’ve even changed my mind on some things after reading impassioned pleas from others.

    I’ve never posted much before, just read comments, and there were certain people who I didn’t agree with, and basically learned to just skim or skip their comments.

    And I am sure there is a special place deep in GRRM’s heart for us fans who argue for silver hair or purple eyes or large direwolves to be represented accurately, because the very things we are whining about are the very reasons he claimed that inspired him to go create ASOFAI in the first place, right??

    Also, I just wanted to mention something from a previous post, about people’s opinions changing about characters you see on screen- when I read the books I hated the character of Viserys, and couldn’t care less about who they cast in it, how he looked or acted, whatever, Viserys as a charcter to me was flea scum. but after seeing Harry Lloyd talk, and do his acting and the one small line he gets in the preview, I turned to myhusband and went “Wow! Viserys? He seems crazy mad cool!” More Viserys! Now I am wanting prequels instead of sequels! And I believe it’s totally the charisma of the actor..

  148. Tobias Wedin
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    purplejilly,

    Thanks. That warmed my heart.

  149. KG
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin,

    Personally, I’d much rather play “let’s pretend the dog is a direwolf” than endure half-assed SyFy CGI.

  150. purplejilly
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    My opinion is that I would much rather have seen a CGI-enhanced wolf-hybrid playing the part of Ladythan this weak looking dog.  Quote  Reply

    Is there any chance they will be sprucing up the dogs in post-production with CGI to make them look more wolf-like? I was thinking maybe the dogs are used as the cgi-placeholders/placemarkers?

  151. purplejilly
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Ideas for a companion blog Winter could put up for detail mashing and re-hashings:
    Winter-Is-Complaining.net
    sign me up! :P

  152. Tobias Wedin
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    Well I agree with you there. I have never seen any good looking 100% CGI generated furry animal….and the worst examples have always been wolves or warewolves.
    But CGI can also be used partly to enhance or change.

  153. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou,
    thank you! It is an honour to have you here, sharing your insight with us. That pic with you and Arya and What’s-his-name in the background is truly awesome :D Can’t wait to see you “in action” in the series!

    (restrains herself forcefully from asking questions about Jaqen H’Gaar)

  154. rorschach-
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    Yep, I though that those could be my “house words”, now I only need to make my woman see how awesome and necessary it would be to paint them to our flats wall. Because if someone in stoneage wouldn’t have thought that pushing square boxes full of stuff is stupid, we wouldn’t have wheels. I love criticism, I endore it, if I could I would marry it and fly to moon with it. So I always give it to others because I want to share the awesomeness.

    And I even gave it to our lovely Miltos, I’m sorry. It was because I love you. You are almost as awesome as criticism.

    Also, like Hear me Roar already mentioned. Please be nice to each others, don’t make my prophecy come true. But don’t forget to give criticism <3

  155. miltos Yerolemou
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: miltos Yerolemou,
    thank you! It is an honour to have you here, sharing your insight with us. That pic with you and Arya and What’s-his-name in the background is truly awesome Can’t wait to see you “in action” in the series!(restrains herself forcefully from asking questions about Jaqen H’Gaar)    

    oh blackfish….. believe me i have more questions than you about that ‘hooded’ subject.

    and to you all, i am as flattered and proud of being part of this amazingly run forum as you. Long may the arguments and excitement continue!

    oh and it was the first time i had seen any pic of me as Syrio too….. funny how you can spend so long playing a part and STILL be as blown away as everyone else…
    (I actually said, ‘about bloody time’!)

    catch you all later

  156. Αιμομιξία
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    I love Joffrey. It looks very beautiful. Would be nice to the series, shows and invent an incestuous relationship with his mother Cersei.
    It would be quite morbid. mmmmmmmmmmmm

    Anyway, I guess I’ll have to stay with the looking forward to seeing the incestuous relationship between mother and son.

  157. Sekhmet
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin: Sekhmet,
    My opinion is that I would much rather have seen a CGI-enhanced wolf-hybrid playing the part of Lady
    than this weak looking dog.    

    Well truth-be-told. I always did think of Lady as the smallest of the wolves. So, I guess I’m not as offended.

  158. purplejilly
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    I would think Arya is training to be ambidextrious, for the sheer awesomeness of it…

  159. Tobias Wedin
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Sekhmet,

    Very true. Thats probarly why we have only seen Lady. She is the least interesting out of all the pups. Still they come from the same litter so the only difference should be size and colour while proportions are fairly the same.

  160. ezeqiel
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a question for anyone in the know…

    in the new picture of King Robert of House Baratheon, First of his Name… arriving at Winterfell we see 3 distinct groups of northern men in the background. To Robert’s left we have what I already know to be “Stark Guards” bearing shields and spears. Immediately to his left we have a chap bearing a Stark banner but in different gear (much more metal-plated features) and next to him we have the black cloak and furred-helmet look. Has any distinction been made of who these guys represent? Are are they all just believed to be Stark men or of Stark-loyal Houses?

    The fact that one of them is holding a Stark banner would say he is of House Stark and perhaps not linked to another loyal, under-House… but having seen the predominant/heavy use of the known Stark Guard look when shooting scenes with the main Stark family, I still think there may be a distinction to a different House possible.

    I know there is a definite distinction on Umber Bannermen and how they look (I was one, yay!) and was involved in a collective gathering of “Northern Bannermen” that included guys donning the black cloak & furred-helm look and another style not seen in footage/stills yet… but never thought to ask if they represented another loyal Stark House or not – so I’m trying to ask now

    Anyone have any input/ideas or were involved in the production that might know?

    Its not a huge thing, but as a Stark/North fan, I think its cool to know what loyal houses they are including even if it is only in the background!

  161. mummer
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Tobias Wedin,

    If any of the direwolves is going to look a little “weak”, it should be Lady. Like Sansa (at least Sansa early on in the series), she’s meek and well-trained to a fault. And remember, none of the wolves are big and physically imposing at this point – even Nymeria is not a massive beast, it’s only her aggressiveness that scares people. When Lady takes the blame for Nymeria’s behavior, it’s doubly unfair because Lady is so obviously not a dangerous creature in any way. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the casting and directing of this particular dog was done with that in mind.

  162. The Rabbit
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    ezeqiel,

    I am just guessing here, but I am pretty sure that one of the guys with four helmet is Jamie Sives aka Jory Cassel – a captain of the Stark guard.
    So, I would say that the guys kneeling behind the King are just the ordiniary guardsmen, and the guys behind the Stark family with slightly different costumes are the officers with the higher ranks or they personal guards – like Jory.

    Btw, you never said to us you were one of the Umbers! Cool!
    Are you allowed to say how many other houses were present on the gatherong and which ones ?

  163. Mormegil
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    ezeqiel: To Robert’s left we have what I already know to be “Stark Guards” bearing shields and spears. Immediately to his left we have a chap bearing a Stark banner but in different gear (much more metal-plated features) and next to him we have the black cloak and furred-helmet look.

    I believe the guard holding the banner is Jory (

  164. Zack
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    mummer,

    Very convincing point. Makes a lot of sense!

  165. Tysnow
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Good reasoning with the common soldiers and officers, my assumption of the other group (in heavy armor) is that they are the men at arms who in modern times would be considered the NCO’s.

  166. Charisse
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Delighted to have Miltos’s confirmation!! I also notice that Arya’s and Joffrey’s belts are buckled to opposite sides. Clearly, Joffrey is wearing Lion’s Tooth ready for a right-hand draw, so it makes sense that Arya’s belt would be arranged to the other side for a left-hand draw of Needle.

  167. Mundaneman
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Love the pictures. I really hope that the little Jaime-Jon confrontation was purposefully added in as foreshadowing (possibly with some input from GRRM) of a real confrontation we’ll see in a later book.
    On another note, I like the costume design as a whole, but it is my hope that the costume designers kept in mind the culture and history of Westeros as a whole in coming up with the unique House styles, beyond the name of the House and the climate. In a perfect world, that would mean, for me, subtle similarities between the different Houses descended from the First Men (and even the children of the forest when and if they’re ever seen, due to the close relationship between the First Men and the children), as well as similarities between the Houses descended from the other groups that immigrated to Westeros. That is probably a pipe-dream, so I’d be happy if the similarities at least stretched between the Great Houses and their bannermen Houses. In my mind, this would diminish the let’s-mix-a-bunch-of-cool-looking-styles-together-randomly feeling that some fans seem to be experiencing.
    Oh, and here’s hoping we’ll get to see Rhaegar at some point, and that for some reason the actor cast in the part will look oddly similar to Jon Snow.

  168. Tysnow
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Good thing they filmed Games this past year, as Maisie appears to be gaining her young woman’s face in that pic (and losing the childlike features). This will actually be good for the show because of all that happens to Arya over the next two seasons would cause any young person to age and mature faster than normal.

  169. DH87
    Posted January 9, 2011 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Crysania: I call myself an ex die hard TB show because Allan Ball deviated so far from the books that it’s just not the same anymore and because GoT has replaced TB in my world. I hope that HBO has learned a bit about deviations and won’t pull a TB again. 

    My God, were we twins separated at birth?

  170. ezeqiel
    Posted January 10, 2011 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    @ the Rabbit
    @ Mormegil

    I’m less and less convinced that Jory is being shown in that image, while I can see the similarity where people have pointed out who they think him to be, it’s my belief that all those lined up against the back wall and in under the archway are extras (I recognize a number of the faces)
    I’d suspect he would be directly behind the Stark family (as is probably Rodrik) and there seems to be a running theme of characters not wearing helmets, always having their full head & faces on show. Further to this, if you check out the images of Jory in the 10min preview trailer from a while back (outside Vary’s office and on the Street of Steel) you’ll see his armour/clothing is distinctly different (full chainmail sleeves are one of these differences)… so all in all I don’t beleive Jory to be one of the guards pictured in that image with King Rob.

    From my own knowledge of the production, it is my belief that the guys behind the King are infact the Stark personal guard, or just “Stark Guard” as they were known. Its these guys that are seen in force/numbers at the beheading scene in the preview trailer and in the scenes of Arya’s accusation/trial at the inn scene. From later episodes of the show I beleive it is these guys that do alot of the fighting too.
    I definately saw their armour (costumes) alot more prevalent then any of the others.
    In the the Bannermen collective that I was involved in, there were at least 4 variations in armour setup (some more numerous then others, and from what I know were described in 2 collective groups – “Northern Bannermen” and “Umber Bannermen”, us Umber Bannermen all had a single look and were the most numerous, while the Northern Bannermen group comprised the rest and in addition to those 2 groups there were also a core group (slightly more than us Umbers) of my already mentioned Stark Guard.
    Of the Northern Bannermen group, I can only recall seeing one chap in the furred-helm-black cloak look (that was my 1st time seeing it) and none of the armour seen on the chap holding the banner in the picture with King Rob (unless what I did see were just variations of the same, but what I did see were considerably different enough to be considered distinct – different helms or metal breastplate). Perhaps I did see more than I remember but excitement and the amount to take in has left me a little foggy in areas.

    Not sure entirely what I can say in terms of what I saw for other Houses, there was no confirmed information stated on who was who (apart from the distinct Umber Bannermen group I was in), but I did see a variety of banners that I’ve applied my own knowledge too – not sure what the done thing is tho with describing what is seen on set in terms of props… are simple descriptions allowed or seen to be too spoilerish?

  171. userj
    Posted January 10, 2011 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Who is the third person kneeling in front of King Robert? Obviously the first 2 are Catelyn and Ned, but the person in the back…? It appears to be a person with light hair, with braids in it. So probably a woman… Sansa? But why would only Sansa of all the kids have that position of honor (if anything it ought to be Robb, or perhaps Theon, representing his noble house).

  172. Alexander Dubrovsky
    Posted January 10, 2011 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    DH87:
    My God, were we twins separated at birth?    

    After reading all the 10 books, count me in too, sort of.

  173. Team Sansa
    Posted January 10, 2011 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    @user j

    I think that the picture showing the three Starks kneeling for Robert is cropped. I can’t remember where I saw a wider-angle picture, but I think there were some other Stark kids in the foreground (Bran?). So yes, I think the 3rd that we see is Sansa.

  174. LG
    Posted January 10, 2011 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Team Sansa,

    I think Robb is kneeling between Ned and Sansa, you just can’t see him that well. :) And Arya and Bran are probably next to Sansa but as she is taller than them she kinda obscures them.
    Wasn’t there a screencap from Inside GoT where you can see them all before/after they are kneeling?

  175. Jack
    Posted January 10, 2011 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Wow. That pic above of Syrio and Aria is absolutely outstanding. *Faints*

    I particularly liked the lighting.

  176. Cristian Lorenzini
    Posted January 11, 2011 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    Wow!

  177. Josh K
    Posted January 11, 2011 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Asked Miltos whether how often he had sore knuckles and bruised fingers with those practice swords on Twitter and he responded,

    @bkslashbkslash very sore tendons for weeks after. Those wooden Practise swords are heavier than the real thing! And the one handed technique didnt help!

  178. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 11, 2011 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    miltos Yerolemou:
    Miltos, thanks for your answer, you’re a true gentleman. I was afraid I was out of line with that comment, but you were really gracious! (To think I’m absolutely neutral about the Syrio=Jaqen thing… but the casting of Miltos AND the curly hair gave me much to think about!)

    ezeqiel:
    Not sure entirely what I can say in terms of what I saw for other Houses, there was no confirmed information stated on who was who (apart from the distinct Umber Bannermen group I was in), but I did see a variety of banners that I’ve applied my own knowledge too – not sure what the done thing is tho with describing what is seen on set in terms of props… are simple descriptions allowed or seen to be too spoilerish?

    ezeqiel, you’re so lucky to have been a part of this, and the Umbers are one of my favourite families. I hope you were near some Tully guys… but no sweat, don’t break your “oath of silence”, in April we’ll see all and we’ll be able to discuss it freely!

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