The Artisans: Bruises with Buster
By Winter Is Coming on in Media.

Making Game of Thrones has posted a new Artisans video, this time taking us inside the creation of the fight scenes with fight coordinator Buster Reeves. Lots of good shots of sword swinging action in this one.


96 Comments

  1. DigDoug
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Saw this about 5 minutes ago and I’m still smiling. I realize the fights look pretty ‘stagy’ at this point – probably because they’re not full speed camera rolling shots.

  2. Liesie
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    WHAAAAAAAAA THE MOUNTAIN AND THE HOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Cardus
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    DigDoug,

    I imagine what the behind-the-scenes guy is capturing are the half-speed walkthroughs and rehearsals. None of those appear to be live takes. (especially since Buster is standing around in-shot in many)

  4. Mormegil
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Is that a fight between Drogo and Ogo at one point?

  5. Winter Is Coming
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    DigDoug,

    Yeah, plus they can always speed it up in post, right? Anyway, the brief clips we’ve seen of fights in the promos (Sandor vs. Gregor, Jon vs. the recruits) have looked pretty badass, so I’m not worried that they look slightly less impressive in a behind-the-scenes vid.

  6. Liesie
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    OKay I’ve calmed down a bit, it just that it was so cool seeing some real (though raw) footage of Conan and Rory :) I really liked this vid!

  7. Snakebitey
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Everything HBO is doing is blowing away all my expectations. It looks like the fight scenes will too.

  8. David Moore
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    With the full polish of production, sound effects, etc. those fights are going to be incredible.

  9. Lex
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    This is great! Buster Reeves seems very cool, I liked when he said he just sits at a desk for a day and a half, visualizing and thinking about the fight.

  10. Kennef
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    WHISKERGATE!

    All jokes aside, though, that was pretty damn cool. Can’t wait to see the finished product!

  11. spacechampion
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Anybody having problems with the video showing as a white space, I found that over on the Making Of site if I first loaded the flash player below the video would then appear for me in my tab with Making Of opened.

    http://www.hbo.com/bin/hboPlayerV2.swf?vid=1153850

  12. furrever
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Best Artisans video yet (IMO). Agree with what others have said, we are obviously seeing mostly walk-throughs here and not the live action footage. Still looks awesome.

  13. KG
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    I can’t get over that guy’s nose.

    … probably because the bridge is gone.

  14. MirriMaz
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    This is the first time we get a good shot of the mountain and damn he looks freaking huuuuge. Love the arakha’s with all the details and Drogo looked badass in that scene.

  15. Linayus
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    KG: I can’t get over that guy’s nose. … probably because the bridge is gone.  Quote  Reply

    I was having the same problem. Looks like a few stunts went wrong for him at one point or another in his career. lol

  16. izakmo
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    I figured they’d give Mamoa a fight scene or two for the series. Drogo’s prowess gets talked up in the book, but we never see him in action.

  17. Gecko
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    I have to say, seeing the clips of Conan fighting with his shirt off… I know we’ve seen that before but the dude almost looks bigger out of armor than in it. He’s huge! I can’t wait to see what they will do with him in the second season. I get the feeling he will be a very menacing presence on screen.

  18. ablaaa
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Awesome!

    Best Artisans video thus far.

  19. mattg_20
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Whenever I try to play these videos I always get the same message “We’re sorry. This video is no longer available.” Anyone else get this? Can someone please post a youtube version?

  20. Jose
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Buster Reeves looks like he’s been in a scrape or two, wouldn’t want to mess with him.

  21. Zack
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Lex: This is great! Buster Reeves seems very cool, I liked when he said he just sits at a desk for a day and a half, visualizing and thinking about the fight.    

    Agreed. That part was great! What a cool guy to have planning our epic duels! I never had doubts about the fighting on the show though. I knew it was one area we could count on HBO to do justice.

  22. Grinbomb
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Great video, I think the fight against the mountain clans in the Vale is the fight I’m looking most forward to seeing of what we’ve been show so far, I can image that would be a nightmare to choreograph.

    I like how they actually made the Arakh’s look like part sword, part scythe. It’ll be cool to see the fight scenes in their entirety after production.

  23. Abyss
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    This is just awesome! – Oh, yah, and now it´s awesome on youtube, which make youtube a little more awesome, I think… – I like the word “awesome” btw.^^

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or5Sgf73o68

  24. rtm1981
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Zack: I never had doubts about the fighting on the show though. I knew it was one area we could count on HBO to do justice.

    Fighting yes. But the battles as a whole I think will be slightly disappointing. But who cares really? It’s the characters that are important.

  25. Fire And Blood
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Every Artisans video gets one complete watch-through, then another with my hand on the pause button (which gets clicked about ninety times), followed by about seven or eight more watch-throughs.

    I love the fact that we’re going to get at least one Drogo fight scene. Finally we get to see what his reputation is made of. Stoked!

  26. Fire And Blood
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Hah!

    MTV interview with Emilia Clarke

    Re: Sex scenes: “My mum would tell my dad, and my brother doesn’t know at all.” Classic.

  27. Luca Corradini
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Emilia :)

  28. CactusD
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    ” . . . Knowing it was going to be 100% tasteful . . .”

    Funny, because HBO is known for their gratuitous nudity.

  29. Bobben
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood: Hah!MTV interview with Emilia ClarkeRe: Sex scenes:“My mum would tell my dad, and my brother doesn’t know at all.”Classic.    

    Its funny really, the kind of questions a (young) woman get asked. Can you imagine MTV asking Peter Dinklage or Sean Bean if they’ve informed their mothers of the nudity of the show?

    But she’s a young woman you say, it’s a legitimate and interesting question. She’s a grown woman I say, a professional and leading actress in the greatest HBO production this year (ever…?). I find it neither relevant nor interesting what her parents and brother think. And its not just MTV, Access Hollywood did a similar thing. Bleh!

  30. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Reading the MTV article where they say how Daenerys is pronounced it reminds me of that Emilia seems to add an extra syllable to the word. Everyone on the project that I’ve heard utter the name (including GRRM) says Dae-ner-ys, but she seems to say Dae-ner-e-ys.

    It’s not a big deal but it seems like it could be a bit odd if people pronounce names differently on the show and it seems like something that wouldn’t have been too hard to catch.

  31. pualo
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    CactusD,

    One man’s gratuitous is another man’s tasteful.

  32. Jeff T
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    mattg_20,

    I think this is a network traffic problem you are experiencing. Happens to me sometimes when a ton of people are trying to hit it.

  33. Sareeta
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Bobben,

    That’s because men rarely are shown in full frontal nudity in movies let alone TV, so it’s not as big a deal for them. Oz, Angels in America, and Rome are the only HBO shows I can think of that showed full frontal nudity of male characters. A majority of women are very self conscious, so I can see why it’s a big deal for her, especially knowing her parents and brother might see her completely nude.

  34. userj
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    CactusD,

    Er, I think when she says it’ll be 100% tasteful and legit, she means that she felt sure that the production of those scenes will not involve any actual sexual contact and everything would be above board and professional. They’ll be wearing modesty coverings during any contact between actors, for example.

  35. Zafri Mollon
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    spacechampion,

    exact same thing happens for me. I usually do the same thing to get it to work.

  36. persephone88
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    I thought the Hound looked awesome in the artisans vid. That was the first shot of him I’ve seen with the missing hair and burns all the way up the way up the side. Seeing that first scene of him swinging at the Mountain and Loras rolling to get out of the way – wow, looking forward to seeing it all play out in the full version, should be a nail biter!

  37. Sean
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Sareeta,

    Add Deadwood and Boardwalk Empire, and the Wire to the list with full frontal male nudity to the list.

  38. Mr. Wu
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Almost half the episodes of Spartacus: Blood and Sand featured penis. I wouldn’t be surprised to see one pop up (pun partially intended) somewhere in GoT. Question is who it would be attached to. Definitely a good question for D&D next time someone talks to them.

  39. Avalanche3319
    Posted January 13, 2011 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

    Sean,

    The Wire? I don’t remember any in the wire, but I may have just forgotten it. Doesnt True Blood have it’s fair share as well?

  40. Baldr
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    KG: I can’t get over that guy’s nose.
    … probably because the bridge is gone.    

    Well played sir, well played

  41. KG
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 1:58 am | Permalink

    Baldr: Well played sir, well played  Quote  Reply

    Ma’am, but ty all the same ;D

  42. Altaïr
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 3:07 am | Permalink

    Terrific video !
    Another terrific video is this one : a video about the special effects on Boardwalk empire… it’s very impressive ! If Game of thrones benefit from the same kind of post-processing, it’s gonna be huge !
    I wonder if the hound will benefit from the same kind of post-processed scars on the face…

  43. Howland Reed
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    Did Buster Reeves choreograph the fights for Troy? (and is that how DB knows him?) Because if the Hector Vs Achilles fight is an indicator of his work I think we’re in for a treat.

  44. Elaine
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 3:43 am | Permalink

    Altaïr,

    I was wondering the same thing. The Hound is one of my favorite characters, and I’m sad that his scarring is not as extensive as it is in the book. Maybe it was decided that if he were as disfigured as he is in the book, he’d lose all sex appeal. To me, part of the point of his character is that he’s so hideous he CAN’T have any sex appeal….

    oh, well. It’s not like it really matters in the greater scheme of things…but the Hound’s burns are to me what violet eyes are to others…

  45. Bobben
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    Sareeta: Bobben,
    That’s because men rarely are shown in full frontal nudity in movies let alone TV,so it’s not as big a deal for them.Oz, Angels in America, and Rome are the only HBO shows I can think of that showed full frontal nudity of male characters. A majority of women are very self conscious, so I can see why it’s a big deal for her, especially knowing her parents and brother might see her completely nude.    

    I could agree with you if this was an isolated phenomenon, but its not. The nudity itself is not the issue, even if you’re correct in that full female nudity on tv is much more common than male nudity. Even so, that shouldn’t matter. Exposing body parts isn’t exactly controversial these days. Some could even claim its part of the acting profession. Emilia Clarkes performance as Daenerys is not about being naked. To ask an adult woman what her parents and brother think of her career decisions in a quick interview is degrading the way I see it. And by the way, I can think of a lot of self concious male actors out there as well nowadays. No, Professional women actresses get asked these kind of boring family related questions all the time, while their male counterparts are not. It annys me somewhat.

  46. nsk
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 4:26 am | Permalink

    Full frontal nudity conversation, bit weird, but let me chime in. If woman go full frontal they don’t really do that, because they have this vag-wigs, which cover the secret spot. If a guy go full frontal they don’t give him any green leaf, it’s just au naturale, baby. I don’t remember seeing penis on Deadwood and The Wire?

  47. matt
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 4:50 am | Permalink

    Howland Reed: Did Buster Reeves choreograph the fights for Troy? (and is that how DB knows him?) Because if the Hector Vs Achilles fight is an indicator of his work I think we’re in for a treat.  Quote  Reply

    buster reeves does have a stunt credit for troy on imdb

  48. matt
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    buster reeves does have a stunt credit for troy on imdb so i hope we see more goodnees like that hector/achilles battle

  49. Gatzby
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 4:55 am | Permalink

    Howland Reed,

    IMDB says ‘stunts’, so I thin he was a stunt double in Troy. Also he’s Christian Bale’s stunt double in Batman movies. But it was fun that he was wearing a Troy T-shit, I guess that this was filmed before GoT T-shits came out :) .

  50. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    Short but sweet!

    Was the interview filmed in Malta? I’ve been there, it looks somewhat familiar, but what do I know, it can be Iceland ;)

    The Hound laughing is… weird. Loved the sparring between Rory and Conan. Rory is having the time of his life, Conan is a war machine. Nice knowing that the pic of Conan sparring in camo pants that circulated a while ago, comes from this sequence, and that just off-camera is Rory ducking!

    Great shots of the Night Watch. Who is the red-haired boy? I think Grenn could give Jon a run for his money in terms of attractiveness. Funny that exactly when Reeves talks about rubber swords, you see a boy wielding a sword that clearly bends.

    Viserys’ blue umbrella is strangely becoming on him. :D Nice pile of heads in the Dothraki scene immediately following (ugh)

    Who is the guy in costume with the half-ponytail (only peeve of mine, it’s the universal style for guys since LOTR) leaning on the fence and watching the Loras-Hound-Mountain duel? Looks like the same guy seen later on the left while Conan is preparing, and that’s Ned! At least, he wears the Hand brooch. On the dais there is no Cersei and no children; only Barristan, Robert and Joffrey.

    Ah, a glimpse of Jorah… though I believe I’m the only one who caught that :D I imagined the arakh as completely different (more like a yatagan) but it’s no big deal.

    RODRIK’S BEARD IN ACTION HELL YEAH. Note that behind Ser Rodrick is the shield that Tyrion picks up in one of the pics that were released. And who is the guy in Lannister scarlet in the middle of one of the last scenes?

    Can’t wait for screencaps!

  51. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    Elaine,
    The Hound is one of my faves too, and I wondered about his scarring. I read somewhere (probably here) that they left his mouth alone so as not to impair his expressivity and acting capability, so no missing lips, no bone showing etc.

    I admit I know nothing about make-up, how pliable is it, whether they could have done something better with his mouth while leaving him able to emote successfully. But at least I’m glad they did not go for CGI (à la Gollum and Two-Face), in this case it would seem unnatural.

    I agree that this Hound has a certain sex appeal. We’ll see how it plays out.

  52. Martin
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    Gatzby: Howland Reed, IMDB says ‘stunts’, so I thin he was a stunt double in Troy. Also he’s Christian Bale’s stunt double in Batman movies. But it was fun that he was wearing a Troy T-shit, I guess that this was filmed before GoT T-shits came out .  Quote  Reply

    He was responsible for training Pitt for Troy too (even living with him for a while), and seems to have had a big involvement in the choreography.

    He was involved in the choreography for Batman Begins as well – although principally as a stunt / fight double.

  53. rorschach-
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Hopefully Reeves was not the major man in Troy stunt coordination for I really had a problem with Achilles jumping-onet-shot-win-spear-thrust. Or was it with sword? Maybe both. Though otherwise the fights in Troy were quite nice.

    In GoT I really would have liked a bit more brutality into the choreography of Dothraki. They are these weekly raping and pillaging horse lords and they turn back towards enemy and block over the shoulder… honestly? They should be breaking limbs and hitting groins. Ending the fight as fast as possible. Just like Gregors hits should send weaker man stumbling backwards only by pure power or like Tyrions fight scenes should be complete chaos, fast cuts with heartbeats, blurring vision and ringing ears. Bit cliché but hey, it works.

    Though like it is pointed, a lot of these seem to be just walkthroughs and practice and they can chance or look completely different when ready… And still you guys already like these scenes. I love you guys and girls.

  54. purplejilly
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Bobben: Its funny really, the kind of questions a (young) woman get asked. Can you imagine MTV asking Peter Dinklage or Sean Bean if they’ve informed their mothers of the nudity of the show?But she’s a young woman you say, it’s a legitimate and interesting question. She’s a grown woman I say, a professional and leading actress in the greatest HBO production this year (ever…?). I find it neither relevant nor interesting what her parents and brother think. And its not just MTV, Access Hollywood did a similar thing. Bleh!  Quote  Reply

    It sort of fits with the way women are treated in Westeros in general, though.. hehehehe..

  55. purplejilly
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: Elaine,The Hound is one of my faves too, and I wondered about his scarring. I read somewhere (probably here) that they left his mouth alone so as not to impair his expressivity and acting capability, so no missing lips, no bone showing etc. I admit I know nothing about make-up, how pliable is it, whether they could have done something better with his mouth while leaving him able to emote successfully. But at least I’m glad they did not go for CGI (à la Gollum and Two-Face), in this case it would seem unnatural.I agree that this Hound has a certain sex appeal. We’ll see how it plays out.  Quote  Reply

    I figureed they might have to lighten up on the hound’s facial scarring – it’s the Same sort of problem they had when making Phantom of the Opera with the Phantom of the Opera mask – they had to adjust the cut of the mask, and adjust his facial disfiguration so that he could talk and sing properly. (envisions the Hound singing love songs with a silk cape swirling about him)

  56. Mormegil
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Terrific video !
    Another terrific video is this one : a video about the special effects on Boardwalk empire… it’s very impressive ! If Game of thrones benefit from the same kind of post-processing, it’s gonna be huge !
    I wonder if the hound will benefit from the same kind of post-processed scars on the face… Altaïr

    I doubt they’ll be doing a Richard Harrow on the Hound as why bother putting make up on him in that case.

    I think what we have seen with the Hound is the final look.

    : RODRIK’S BEARD IN ACTION HELL YEAH. Note that behind Ser Rodrick is the shield that Tyrion picks up in one of the pics that were released. And who is the guy in Lannister scarlet in the middle of one of the last scenes?

    He’s one of Tyrions guards. In the book IIRC Tyrion has one bodyguard and a servant with him. In the show he has two guards in Lannister armour (not sure if there is a servant as well).

  57. purplejilly
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Avalanche3319: Sean, The Wire? I don’t remember any in the wire, but I may have just forgotten it. Doesnt True Blood have it’s fair share as well?  Quote  Reply

    Wasn’t Omar invovlved in some nudity? Or maybe that was my imagination..

  58. purplejilly
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    Viserys and his blue umbrella. It never ceases to amaze me how I actually am interested in Viserys now. And actually feel a bit sorry for him as the ousted rightful crown of the seven kingdoms. Before the show I was always “bah!’ the Targaryens. Who cares? The last one was crazy, so they forfeit,” but now with HarryLloyd, I am back on the side of the Targaryens!

  59. Tysnow
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    Howland Reed,

    Simon Crane was the official fight choreographer for Troy, Buster Reeves though was a stunt double and fight assistant for the Achilles-Hector grudge match and apparently was credited with (by cast members) for creating some of the moves used in the fight.

  60. Petter Kristian Vikestad
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:08 am | Permalink

    Looks too choreographed so far.. I want swings and misses. More bloodlust, less dancing.

  61. Tysnow
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    One thing I noticed is that this video confirmed my assertation last year that the production designers actually made Castle Black a real fortress with gate and walls. The segment that shows Jon walking across a covered parapet above a gate verifies that Black is now a fortress and not a hodge podge of buildings and towers.
    I believe this was done to cut costs, for it they utilized the description in the books this would have entailed extensive cgi to fill in the areas between structures. Though a consequence of this will be the attempted surprise assault by Wildlings, with Black now a fortress the end around force will have to be much larger. A 30-40 man unit would not be tactically large enough to assault a defensive fortification since Jon escaped to warn Black. So if the writers adhere to that portion of the story, to make it believable and tactically sound the Wildling force will have to number in the hundreds.

  62. Tysnow
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    Oops! forgot spoiler block for the previous post.

  63. Elaine
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    purplejilly,

    That makes perfect sense, what you and Blackfish say. I’m glad it’s not CG, too.

    I suppose it’ll work the same way Handsome Tyrion and (hopefully) Good-Looking Brienne will: the characters will be defined by the way others react to them.

  64. OhDanyBoy
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    Pretty sure Ran confirmed after he visited the set that they would not be having full walls around the buildings, and that the walls up now were there to block out certain parts of the background (such as filming trucks, etc) and would be digitally removed later. I’ll try to dig up the reference – I could be wrong.

  65. Ed
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Jdyck and Morric, I believe are their names (but the spelling’s botched, I’m sure)

    Mormegil:

    He’s one of Tyrions guards. In the book IIRC Tyrion has one bodyguard and a servant with him. In the show he has two guards in Lannister armour (not sure if there is a servant as well).    

  66. Blackfish Blues
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Mormegil:
    He’s one of Tyrions guards. In the book IIRC Tyrion has one bodyguard and a servant with him. In the show he has two guards in Lannister armour (not sure if
    there is a servant as well).

    Thanks! I need to re-read the tomes.

    Elaine: purplejilly,
    That makes perfect sense, what you and Blackfish say.I’m glad it’s not CG, too.I suppose it’ll work the same way Handsome Tyrion and (hopefully) Good-Looking Brienne will: the characters will be defined by the way others react to them.

    Yes, that’s why I’m not worried about the “Hollywood Ugly” question. If Tyrion looks handsome to us, we must not forget that for his family he was a monster. If Brienne should be a tall muscled girl with a pretty face, I won’t be offended, because just for her size and her belligerent inclination she would be an outcast in her family.

  67. OhDanyBoy
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 9:56 am | Permalink
  68. MUGger
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Sareeta,

    You forgot True Blood. One of the major reasons my wife watches that show is the full frontal male nudity in it (I hear lots of giggling and whooping while she watches it, then after….)

  69. Tysnow
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    OhDanyBoy,

    It would not be logical let alone strategic or tactical to have a gate with towers and then the rest of the Castle Black left open to the elements. Why even have a gate with adjoining towers (which I might add aren’t in the books). If the filming crew left open areas between structures, it would be access for production equipment. I mean a GoT viewer looking at Castle Black and it being all open and there stands a lone gate with towers, would say WTF, not enough in the budget to complete the fortress. If according to Ran there were open areas, I am sure with camera work and some cgi, Castle Black will be enclosed. If I am wrong you can just point out this post and slap me silly.

  70. Adam Roberts
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    The mountain is wielding his 2-hander with 2 hands, cuz he’s angry i suppose

  71. Tysnow
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    I have noticed when looking closely at the MoGoT video, at the 4:28 sec spot the clip with with Jon sparring and Alliser speaking, you will notice in the background it appears that between one of the towers and the Wall a makeshift wood palisade has been constructed. This would explain no curtain walls from Ran’s observation upon visiting the set. It would be logical that if Black was not a finished fortress, but had a gate, towers and other close knit structures, a commander at some point would have constructed a wooden defensive palisade in the gaps.

  72. MirriMaz
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Fire And Blood: I love the fact that we’re going to get at least one Drogo fight scene. Finally we get to see what his reputation is made of. Stoked!  Quote  Reply

    Unless it’s the fight at the lamb people village (i saw some lambs in the background).

    Also i’m pretty sure there’s no frontal male nudity in True Blood :(

  73. OhDanyBoy
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    MirriMaz,

    The fight at the lamb people village is when he personally takes on another Khal, and defeats him (sustaining a mortal wound in the process). So, seeing that fight is basically the ‘stoked’ part.

  74. Mundaneman
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    I have to say it saddens me that the Hound isn’t wearing his helm during the fight with his brother. That actually mattered to me in the book, because it showed how the Hound was different from the Mountain. Gregor would attack Sandor’s head, trying to kill him, but Sandor showed restraint and didn’t attack Gregor’s head, which was uncovered.
    I personally cannot wait to see Arya with the Hound in season 3 or 4, whichever it is…

  75. dizzy_34
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    OhDanyBoy,

    Yeah that’s what I took that part to be too.

  76. Sekhmet
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    CactusD: ” . . . Knowing it was going to be 100% tasteful . . .”Funny, because HBO is known for their gratuitous nudity.    

    That’s TASTEFUL gratuitous nudity!

  77. Sekhmet
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Sareeta: Bobben,
    That’s because men rarely are shown in full frontal nudity in movies let alone TV,so it’s not as big a deal for them.Oz, Angels in America, and Rome are the only HBO shows I can think of that showed full frontal nudity of male characters. A majority of women are very self conscious, so I can see why it’s a big deal for her, especially knowing her parents and brother might see her completely nude.    

    Rome was not Purefoy’s first full frontal outing. “Bright Hair” was. Bean has done full frontal in “When Sunday Comes”. So it happens. We’ll see what HBO does with GOT.

  78. Martin
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    I have a few shots of the set at Castle black taken form distance though – that gives you a small idea on how they constructed the set there.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/54790185@N05/5102820235/in/set-72157625088539413/

    There are a few more shots in that folder – not brilliant because they were taken probably from about 400m away.

    They appear to have formed a courtyard bounded on 3 sides by buildings and 1 by the wall. It makes sense for cost effective filming as it blocks the rest of the quarry from courtyard shots. Although it is different form the books, I don’t think the change makes a huge impact.

  79. mummer
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Mundaneman: I have to say it saddens me that the Hound isn’t wearing his helm during the fight with his brother. That actually mattered to me in the book, because it showed how the Hound was different from the Mountain. Gregor would attack Sandor’s head, trying to kill him, but Sandor showed restraint and didn’t attack Gregor’s head, which was uncovered.

    I think it would be pretty hard to get the same point across in the same way on screen. In the book, Martin tells us how to interpret it. On screen, if you stick a helm on Sandor, and have Gregor aim some cuts at it– during a very fast and brutal fight scene– most viewers are probably not going to be analyzing it that way and thinking “Oh, Sandor is trying to avoid killing Gregor.” They’re just as likely to think “Gregor is trying to smash him on the head to knock him out– he’s got a helmet on, so that wouldn’t kill him”… or just “Holy crap, that sure is a crazy dog-shaped helmet.” That’s hardly the only way to establish those character traits; they could just choreograph the fight to include a moment where Gregor screws up and leaves himself open to attack in some obvious way, and Sandor makes a point of hesitating. And if what you’re interested in is Sandor’s state of mind, then having Sandor’s facial expression be totally invisible would be a weird choice in a visual medium: one guy has a big angry face, and the other guy is just a metal sculpture.

  80. mummer
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Tysnow,

    It makes a difference though, doesn’t it, if the stuff in between the buildings is wood and not stone. Castle Black was supposed to be vulnerable enough that it couldn’t resist an assault by a Westerosi army, but that doesn’t mean they have to leave themselves completely open to the occasional wildling who sneaks over the Wall, or to nocturnal animals, etc. In that case it’s helpful to have walls and gates that are just good enough to be an obstacle, plus guys on watch in the towers. It’s still a different look than a completely fortified castle if you’re paying close attention, but it doesn’t jump out at you as looking unfinished– which is good, because it’s not until later that we really get an explanation of just how vulnerable Castle Black really is, and why; we don’t want to have the viewers thinking a lot about that just yet.

  81. Howland Reed
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Petter Kristian Vikestad,

    That was my one minor worry as well, especially if the Hector/Achilles represents Reeves general style of choreography. It can seem a bit dancy, a bit too choreographed, where every move is matched by a perfectly balanced counter move and everything seems to flow smoothly until the fatal strike. I’d enjoy more chaos as well, jarred elbows, missed cuts, ringing ears and all. Although, ultimately I trust in the professionalism and good judgment of most of the folks involved in the production. Personally, I can’t wait for the Vardis/Bronn action.

  82. Petter Kristian Vikestad
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Howland Reed,

    Vardis/Bronn should be awesome. On a minor note, I loved how Pyp slashed his sword in the end of one of the teasers. More like that HBO, please. On a major note, Troy was utter shit. I’m not going to like this series if the fighting scenes are too hollywoodesqe.

  83. Elaine
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Petter Kristian Vikestad,

    I’d call Troy a bad movie and X-Men: Wolverine total shit. Which is the only thing that makes me worried about GoT: I haven’t seen D&D’s other movies, but if the writing for 7 episodes of GoT is as bad as the two films I HAVE seen…

  84. Hear Me Roar
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Elaine,

    David hasn’t got much, if anything, to do with the final version of Wolverine. Doubts half abated? :)

  85. Tysnow
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Elaine,

    I quite enjoyed Troy, I even bought the Director’s Cut version. It might be that I am a layman historian working toward a History degree, so I am partial to costume flicks, but I found the movie very entertaining. The acting was good, directing, even the story flowed along smoothly. I know they took extreme liberties with the Illiad (TV mini-series was more authentic to the legend), but I thought the way they tied all the story elements into 3 hrs (DC) was well done.
    Overall I gave the DC version:
    2 matinee tickets – 2 medium drinks – 1 pizza and 1 large popcorn

  86. Howland Reed
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Elaine,

    DB Wrote the 25th Hour, a good novel, which then he adapted for the Spike Lee film. He also adapted The Kite Runner. His own writing and his experience working with previous material make me feel more at ease. And while Wolverine was totally craptastic I feel better knowing that he was replaced as a writer fairly early on and someone else turned it into the disaster it turned out to be. Also, Martin’s faith in DB and DW obviously goes a long way.

  87. Martin
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Howland Reed,

    If you want more chaos – look at the stunt fight work Reeves did for Batman Begins – much more ‘immediate’ with less focus on balletic flowing moves and more base ‘whatever it takes to get the job done’ moves. Reeves was apparently responsible for introducing the close in KFM fighting style to the fight coordinators for that movie.

    I suspect that they will use a variety of fighting styles in GoT – with possibly more ‘light’ stylistic choreography for the Dothraki, maybe more traditional for your average Knights, basic for the Black brothers – and pure brute force for the Cleganes.

  88. FlayedandDisplayed
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    mummer,

    Excellent points and a good example of how the show needs to interpret the intent and feel of a scene in the book for portrayal in the TV medium. If they kept the helm and intercut to someone observing the fight and explaining that – ‘oh he’s going for the head how dastardly and look the Hound is being chivalrous how odd he’s not even a knight’ then the action would be interrupted and lessened. Intercuts in fight scenes should only be for split second crowd reactions or foreshadowing a dramatic turn of events

  89. Mundaneman
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    mummer,

    That’s a great point, and I didn’t really think of it like that. And, really, it’s not that big of a deal. Still, it could easily have been a teachable moment between Ned and Arya. Just have Arya actually go to the tourney 9which also serves to show just how out of place she is in that world, and might even set up a parallel between her and Lyanna if there is ever a flashback of the Tourney at Harrenhall), she gets excited at the fighting, and Ned remarks on it to her. It would even work with Sansa, and would be a great sort of prelude to Sansa and Sandor’s relationship. Just to be clear, I mean relationship in the most platonic sense possible.
    It doesn’t really matter though, I just think it would be a great visual.

  90. purplejilly
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    MirriMaz: Unless it’s the fight at the lamb people village (i saw some lambs in the background).Also i’m pretty sure there’s no frontal male nudity in True Blood   Quote  Reply

    But have you seen Spartacus, Blood and Sand from STarz? That should be called Blood and Sand and full frontal Men!

  91. George DW
    Posted January 14, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    MirriMaz: This is the first time we get a good shot of the mountain and damn he looks freaking huuuuge.

    Yeah, it really throws it into perspective when our Sandor is 6’6″ and Conan still towers over him…

  92. Elaine
    Posted January 15, 2011 at 3:46 am | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar,

    More than half abated, thanks :D I’m an English professor, so I’m picky about dialog and story-telling, and both were SO BAD in Wolverine. I can give anyone a pass for a mediocre adaption of the Iliad, though…that’s kind of a tall order, and I don’t remember any seriously cringe-worthy moments in Troy, anyway!

  93. Hear Me Roar
    Posted January 15, 2011 at 4:07 am | Permalink

    Elaine,

    Good :) I feel like I’m perhaps slightly fanboishly defending him, but it has been explained to me that he wrote the first version, which was then dramatically changed through several revisions by other writers.

  94. Rimshot
    Posted January 15, 2011 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    Brilliant Video!

    But I’m kicking myself for not knowing who Buster Reeves was and throwing him the ‘you’re Buster Reeves!’ looks that he deserves when I was at the Tourney. I was beside that guy loads of times and may have even spoke to him (can’t remember). I knew he was part of the stunt/fight team but not Mr Reeves!! I remember looking at that nose and wondering how it happened.

    Guys, don’t be worried about the stagey, slow look of the fights. I had a ring side seat (remember – I’m the dude with the orange moose banner!) and got to watch G&S first block out then film the big fight all day long. The filming was alot faster and had alot more chaos and energy than the rehearsals. We even gave them a round of applause at the end! When it is all edited together and the effects/music is added it will kick ass!

    BTW – I’d forgotten about this but there had been alot of talk about the Hound’s Helmet on here which reminded me. One day in the costume tent at the Tourney set last August I was standing waiting for a line check (this is where everone in costume lines up and the head of costume walks along the line checking everyone to make sure we all have the required awesomeness that you guys are hoping for!). I wandered towards the end of the tent (this is the huge white marquee that SilverJaime spotted on her James Bond style mission last year) and glanced at a table beside me. There was noone else around. On that table were the Helms of the Hound, The Mountain & Loras, all sitting beside each other. I remember thinking ‘If the WiC guys saw this they would have kittens!’

  95. terry reeves
    Posted January 31, 2011 at 5:20 am | Permalink

    matt,

    The fight between Achiles and Hector in the film Troy.,is actually Buster Reeves and Mark Mottram. It was finally shot in La Paz in Mexico,after a delay because the set was blown down by an Hurricane.

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