Now available on iTunes and HBO’s YouTube channel is the character profile of Petyr ‘Littlefinger’ Baelish. Enjoy this closer look at the smarmy type, portrayed by fan favourite Aidan Gillen.
Secondly, flying low under the radar, HBO has put out a new video in the Artisans series, embedded below for your viewing pleasure. Gordon Fitzgerald, the props master, takes us on a tour of the various Game of Thrones locations and explains how each of the sets was dressed to emphasize the differences between regions.
Hear Me Roar: What to say about these new vids? I don’t know about you, but I think the Dothraki goat is really cute.
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Oh thank you baby…
Littlefinger is absolutely perfect.
I think Sansa looks rather old and “adult”… I am going to say something very unpopular now but I am looking forward to her scenes with the Hound *giggles histerically*.
Anyway, I wish we had more footage on Hound/Mountain etc.
And Varys is priceless
JennyQuote Reply
… The scene with Littlefinger and Sansa has me torn now. I mean, the man is hot there’s no denying. But the hint of pedobear that he throws in to the mix is just plain disturbing.
Truly, that is some brilliant casting.
McSherrieQuote Reply
Littlefinger is nothing short of amazing. Definitely one of the best castings in the entire show. Aidan gets the balance between Littlefinger’s traits which stretches from a charming, funny man to scheming and creepy.
We haven’t seen too much of Varys but from what I can see he’s also really good.
Tywin’s BastardQuote Reply
Brilliant!! Fantastic casting! Aidan IS Littlefinger. He can do smarmy and charming and sinister and disturbing standing on his head – he has excelled at parts like this throughout his career. (Watch Dice and see him flirt with a 12-yr-old – ugh!)
And hot hot HOT with it……….!
Can. not. WAIT!!!!!
silverjaimeQuote Reply
Gillen is amazing. The smile, the articulated speech, the creepyness around Sansa.
Also Varys!!! Give him a feature of his own, pretty please HBO. :)
Erik SjöströmQuote Reply
Here is the youtube link for Artisans: Gordon Fitzegrald
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrANAgXE4g4
RichardQuote Reply
The smile he gives Sansa is really creepy, and therefore quite fitting, but are we supposed to “get” that he likes Sansa in an inappropriate way straight away? I mean, that smile, just says it all.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Alright people, now we need to get the Direwolves scene, the extended Stark feature and the new Costumes feature on youtube. Then we’re all up to date!
KnurkQuote Reply
Anyone else loving the long pause/slight hint of a smirk right at the end of the Littlefinger video? They could’ve snipped it off, but excellently presages his role as master manipulator :-)
Lord WillumQuote Reply
sjwenings,
Littlefinger video good.
Artisans? Not so much.
Least charismatic artisan feature by a long shot. A couple decent snippets of props and scenes, but after all the recent proper promo videos, this is very underwhelming.
Had it been put out 3 months ago, it would have been much better
Ax0rQuote Reply
I am glad they’ve aged Sansa up (13 in the show, I think Sophie is 15). It really allows them to explore her relationships with The Hound and Littlefinger in subsequent seasons without it seeming really pedoish. I think The Hound tells Arya something like “I should have fucked your sister when I had the chance” in SOS!!!
NickQuote Reply
Knurk,
..and the Sansa feature.
Btw: To those that have seen the Sansa vid on On demand: How was it?
I’m really interested to know if Sophie is any good, as the stuff we’ve seen so far hasn’t really left me with a clear impression.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Oh yes. Aidan Gillen IS Littlefinger, so true. So happy with this casting. Might be my favorite casting choice next to Emilia Clarke as Dany.
He really has LF down.
The Winter RoseQuote Reply
sjwenings,
I really had the feeling when reading aGoT this guy had Pedobear written all over him. Best things about the video: Maisies ‘who the fuck are you’ look and the ‘I’m having fun’ quote on the end.
And the Sansavideo can be found on StevethePirate’s youtubechannel.
KnurkQuote Reply
Ah Littlefinger, our favorite pedophile. Gillen looks to be doing an awesome job. I saw the Wire just a few months ago mainly to see his acting and he didn’t disappoint there and I doubt he’ll disappoint here.
JarmelQuote Reply
sjwenings,
Even her feature video doesn’t show much more then we have seen. I think she is playing the “airhead” so we haven’t seen much more then that.
The ReaderQuote Reply
He was great in the wire, and he seems to be the perfect littlefinger. Couldn’t have thought of a better choice!
Petyr FTW
Christian DelboveQuote Reply
Knurk,
iTunes only has the short Stark feature, uploaded a couple of days ago, right?
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Aiden Gillen has pulled off the creepy/hot thing before and he’s done it again (no surprise). I’ve been telling fans of The Wire that he’s in this and a lot of people get more interested in giving it a chance because of it. He’s just that damn good. His smile and eyes just leap out of the camera and into my loins.
SmegmaQuote Reply
Oh dear, what a creepy Littlefinger-Sansa scene! Perfect, both!
Can’t wait to finally hear the Hound barking a few words!
SawyerQuote Reply
Yes, I double-checked the itunes list earlier when I snagged the Littlefinger video (which is on my channel along with the Sansa vid). Still no fuller-length Stark House feature.
The Costumes feature is harder to get a hold of than I anticipated. I was able to log into Fancast, but they’ve disabled all downloading features and add-ons. I tried the old CamStudio type recording, but the Fancast video player is so jerky that it really just sucked and wasn’t worth uploading.
Gordon Fitzgerald has been the props master on some of my favorite movies. I was hoping for a bit more from his Artisans vid, but they didn’t show much at all. It was a little blah. I do love the Scottish accent though, so I’m still glad I watched it. :)
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
Steve the Pirate,
haha I guess they were being sick of their exlusive videos getting robbed and made public by a true pirate.
KnurkQuote Reply
I adore this casting. The “I’m having fun” line at the end, just great. Who wouldn’t be?! :)
What a fantastic character to have the chance to bring to life, and Gillen is enjoying it. So pleased.
I was always hooked on the character, and in a show filled with superb casting choices, this is one that stands out even among this crew. His Sansa interactions were perfectly slimy. I can’t wait for “Only Cat.” in season 3.
And I have to give kudos to Mr Fitzgerald for a job well done. Really liking what’s been shown of the props.
ZackQuote Reply
sjwenings,
On my current reread I find that he’s always being a bit strange to Sansa (as she sees it), and always touching her, when she meets him so I don’t think there’s anything to hide there.
Tywin’s BastardQuote Reply
Would love to see a Hound feature (with some scenes including the Mountain) – we’ve barely seen Rory McCann! Would also like to see some footage of Lysa Arryn and little Robyn, but they’ve got to hold some back, I know. Gillen will do a fine job of Littlefinger -his ’70s moustache is not even bothering me so much anymore, but I do wish they’d kept the spade shaped goatee!
persephone88Quote Reply
Oh Littlefinger, how i love to hate you. That’s why you’re such a great character. to me, it looks like gillen is putting in just the right amount of creepy.
and yes, we need more Varys.
Phoenix_TornQuote Reply
I can’t wait to see Littlefinger and Varys butt heads more often onscreen. That little taste of words between them was delicious.
InkasrainQuote Reply
He’s no Aidan, he’s Petyr all the way. :D Love it!
IzmaglicaQuote Reply
Steve the Pirate,
They’re on to us!
Anyway …
I think Someone needs to send “To Catch a Predator” on Littlefinger … Cause damn!
Phantomwriter05Quote Reply
Aiden Gillen rules!
Jordan HealeyQuote Reply
Strictly speaking, Littlefinger is not a pedophile. Pedophilia is sexual interest in a prepubescent child, which Sansa (and Sophie) is clearly not. It’s still icky but you know…just nitpicking, I guess. My Abnormal Psych class is rearing its creepy head. :)
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
“Littlefinger thrives in times of chaos. That’s when I’m at my best. I’m having fun.”
-Aiden Gillen
Perfection.
Love the shot of him staring at the throne, and the ‘thinking’ going on behind his mask.
Did he just tell Sansa about his and Catelyn’s (supposed) encounter while at the tourney? OMG what a dick! What a slimy, SLIMY dick!
LOOOVE.
LF, you may smirk my way anytime.
Franny BeeQuote Reply
Steve the Pirate,
Ah, Abnormal Psych. One of my favorites!
However, at least in the books, Sansa was still pre-pubescent – albeit bordering on pubescence – at the Hand’s Tourney, so… Depends on how you look at it really. ;)
McSherrieQuote Reply
“He’s a schemer, dreamer, double-crosser with a steadfast resolution never to be bettered.” MY LIFE MOTTO TOO! lmao!
I could quote Aiden Gillen all day long. He is Littlefinger. And it seems they are going to play up the whole Catelyn/virginity-pop in the series instead of keeping it under the rug. Very nasty-cool badass. Ned – he’s not gonna like that one bit…
Tormenting the main characters – that’s what a good story is made of.
Franny BeeQuote Reply
My favorite character in the whole damn book, finally we get to see a vid of him.
But I wanna see more Varys…he made my skin crawl in the book :D
JulianQuote Reply
So awesome/horrifying I can’t look away…
Franny BeeQuote Reply
Steve the Pirate,
Hehe, I’m always correcting people about that. Just because someone is attracted to a person under 18 doesn’t make them a pedo. It’s a very specific and abnormal attraction that people have generalized – much like people claiming someone is “bipolar” or “schizo” if they are moody :P
Anyway, back to Aiden – glad that people have forgotten that he isn’t “little”, but as I and others have been touting – it didn’t matter if he was not short – he had to be otherwise able to pull off that charming/creepy/hot/understated power vibe and he is so wonderful that his height just doesn’t matter :)
SmegmaQuote Reply
I agree that it is a good thing they aged up the children.
But calling littlefinger for a pedophile is realy not correct I think.
In 2011, sure he would be…
But this is not our world and its inspired by medieval times.
The moment a woman is able to bare children she is an adult… Historically and clearly in Westeros it is the rule. Even marrige befor the girl is an adult is sometimes done if the political connection is importen. What I think is wrong is how he tries to use the doughter like a replacement for the mother…
Thomas AagaardQuote Reply
Steve the Pirate,
“I won’t tell anyone, I promise…”
Sounds like ‘grooming’ to me. :S
Franny BeeQuote Reply
Watching his video and seeing the brief moments of Sansa’s lines and her face, she seems to be doing well too. I’m seeing proof that Sophie will be annoying when she is written to be, sympathetic when she needs to be, strong and weak as required by her situation.
I’d be interested to see a Sansa feature. But I suppose she doesn’t have a lot of moments for character growth early on, and they want to avoid spoilers…so they might be limited in what they could show in such a feature to put the audience on her side.
Personally, I never took his nickname to mean his stature, but instead his position in life. He comes from humble beginnings but dreams big.
ZackQuote Reply
Zack,
For the Sansa feature, see one of our posts earlier this month. Here is the link ;)
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Actually the term still applies as my understanding is that Sansa in the first book hadn’t really started menstruating and is 12. It was a joke anyway.
JarmelQuote Reply
Zack,
I felt that was the most important part of Littlefinger, but he as he is described in the books: He is handsome and meticulously stylish, but also quite short. He has gray-green eyes, a small pointed beard on his chin and dark, graying hair
I didn’t think it was at all vital to keep him very short but there were a lot of people that did. But really, on the screen height is just NOT an important thing – nor was it imperative to the character.
SmegmaQuote Reply
Indeed, you’re right! I had seen that when you first posted it, but forgot it. Thanks for the reminder. She’ll be good :) I was critical at first but I think in retrospect it was unfair. Her moments to shine in the book come rather late and can only really be hinted at in this video, subtly.
ITA. We all have our things which are important to us in the adaptation, and ideally a character’s physical description would be carried over. But in so many cases it doesn’t matter all that much. I am having a hard time picturing someone else in this role, he’s absolutely owning it even in these little bits.
ZackQuote Reply
Jarmel,
Sansa doesn’t start her period until AFTER the Hound leaves. And we get her own thoughts on her physical “development” in ASOS, so one can assume she did not have a womanly figure prior to that. So.. Gross. But, still, the Hound and Littlefinger are awesome – and creepy – as hell.
ChryseeQuote Reply
I had been worried that, seeing Sansa on screen rather than reading about her in a book, she might lose the irritating edge she has to start with- and I do think that’s intentional, it gives her room to grow later. But Sophie seems able to play up Sansa’s annoying aspect when needed, and from what little I’ve seen Sansa does come across very like in the books.
Littlefinger’s video is just awesome. He’s very creepy indeed.
ShinyteapotQuote Reply
Was Arya at the tournament with Sansa when littlefinger introduces himself? I thought Arya doesn’t know who littlefinger is in the book.
ZeyikQuote Reply
I don’t think they’re playing up Littlefinger’s attraction to Sansa as much as they emphasizing her awareness of and discomfort with it. As I recall, it’s plenty clear in the book that Littlefinger is linking/confusing Sansa with Cat in his mind, but Sansa herself was more confused than upset. (She cottons on later, of course, but she is still pretty innocent in GoT.) In these clips, she seems distinctly ill-at-ease and aware that Littlefinger is doing something less-than-appropriate.
I almost wonder (/mushy-heartedly hope) if Littlefinger’s overtly creepy attraction to her will serve as a contrast for Sansa when she has her interactions with the Hound– a much more physically frightening presence than Littlefinger, but someone who she comes to feel safe around fairly quickly.
InkasrainQuote Reply
Here is his nickname’s explanation, from GoT:
Catelyn’s mouth grew tight. “Littlefinger,” she murmured. His face swam up before her; a boy’s face, though he was a boy no longer. His father had died several years before, so he was Lord Baelish now, yet still they called him Littlefinger. Her brother Edmure had given him that name, long ago at Riverrun. His family’s modest holdings were on the smallest of the Fingers, and Petyr had been slight and short for his age.
bilikiQuote Reply
Very nice moment right after Varys mentions “your fondness for Lord Stark’s wife”, where Varys makes a very brief face that’s somewhere in between “You have just forced me to state something incredibly obvious, but I’m being nice about it” and “These people and their silly sexual intrigues… whatever.”
mummerQuote Reply
HAHAHAHAHA Littlefinger pedobear. Just at the reference, no lols at pedophila :(.
One of the most perfect castings in the series. He’s already so charming yet creepy, I can’t even fathom a performance in Seasons 3 or 4. I was surprised to hear Aidan’s “real” voice. I knew he was Irish but it sounds like he’s changed his tone/pitch/whatever when he talks as Littlefinger.
I imagine he’ll garner a lot of fangirls. Jaime might be the one that will get peddled as the dangerous type, but Littlefinger is so much more devious. If Westeros were our world, Jaime would probably be a star athlete that rides around on a cool motorcycle making girls swoon. But Petyr Baelish is definitely the guy in Armani suits, driving an expensive foreign sports car, who knows how to get you into all the most exclusive clubs, who provides access to designer drugs, who charms you into loving him so he can manipulate you to fit his every need and scheme. Oh, and his wealth is a complete mystery, because he has no job you can ascertain. I’ve gone on for far too long and am slightly embarrassed, but I will let the nerd flag fly high. :(
LinaQuote Reply
Lina,
Wonderful comparison! I think you’ve got.
Phoenix_TornQuote Reply
I agree that this brief encounter between Littlefinger and Varys foretells some great scenes in the future.
I’ve been a fan of Aidan for Littlefinger since WAY before his announcement, and he’s turned out even better than I hoped. I’m glad HBO has moved him up to one of the main players in the first part of the series, just like Jaime.
Also, while discussions of his official classification are interesting, I think we can all agree that his obsession with Sansa is not in anyway wholesome.
For those who have read all the books: I think the father and daughter role play was partially included to discount any theory that his obsession with her was anywhere approaching normal.
paulgudeQuote Reply
“& I have a finger in a few other pies too”, how apt! I love how Aiden ( & a lot of the other actors) say “I” regarding their characters, as opposed to “he/she”. Shows just how into the whole experience they are!
In the props video, the scene for Robert’s feast looks amazing, so much going on there.
BroQuote Reply
I’m gaving fun was awesome, but the look he gave the camera afterwards just chilled me! Also, the scene between he and Varys was really interesting. It has the potential to be schlocky, but if they do it right, a confrontation between the two early on would be sweet!
Lord Ned’s HeadQuote Reply
Littlefinger and Sansa are my favourite characters. And together they make up the most interesting pair in the series. So this video makes me ridiculously happy.
I really hope we get the creepiness with both Petyr AND the Hound. I’ve always thought they’re both supposed to be super creepy relationships, just of different sorts, and it seems fandom plays up how creepy Petyr/Sansa is and down how creepy Hound/Sansa is. Too many Lancelot stories, I’m guessing :p
RoseQuote Reply
Yes, regardless of whether or not Littlefinger can be classed as a pedophile, he is definitely creepy. I mean, he wants Sansa because she looks like her mom and he’s twenty years older than her (or more, in the tv show- not sure of LF’s age on the show). And then he marries her aunt. So yeah…awesomely creepy. Gillen is making me giddy with his performance.
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
I actually have a friend who is also Irish and looks strikingly like Aiden, and ever since watching The Wire I can’t stop staring at his face. He’s a little less hot and a lot less magnetic, but still hanging out with him is a constant reminder how sexy that guy can be. Kinda reminds me of Ralph Finnes in Schindler’s List. He was an evil, murderous Nazi yet somehow he was soooo attractive in that movie. Littlefinger isn’t QUITE as bad as a Nazi, but he makes being bad look so damn good.
SmegmaQuote Reply
Smegma,
Introduce me to your friend, Smegma. ;)
McSherrieQuote Reply
Game of Thrones casting is just amazing. Littlefingers is just perfect for the role. What am i hoping is that the episodes storyline would be remain faithful on the story on the book. I hope HBO would not mess this up like ABC has messed the Legend of the Seeker.
Bat GirlQuote Reply
Haha, I know right? He used to have a huge thing for me and I made us stay in the friend zone, despite being attracted to him (but he was too much of a homebody for me). Great guy – married now. Too bad, could have totally bought into the whole roleplaying as LF thing (okay not really, yuck lol).
SmegmaQuote Reply
That scene with Sansa definitely gave me the heebiejeebies! Every bit as slimy and creepy as I imagined him, perhaps more. I think I’m one of the few who hasn’t seen the Wire, I don’t know Aidan Gillen at all, but he looks absolutely perfect to me in this role. Really, really spot-on casting.
KangaQuote Reply
It’s possibly the greatest drama ever made. You would definitely be doing yourself a huge favor by renting the DVD’s. It’s five seasons of amazing television, and Aiden is introduced in the third season and he absolutely took my breath away. Much more subtle than LF will be, but still a very magnetic performance. (You gotta watch all the seasons though because you’d be doing yourself a serious disservice by starting halfway through the series). Lots of great reasons to watch The Wire, Aiden being just one of them.
He was also in the UK Queer as Folk. Haven’t watched much of it but what I did see I liked a lot :)
I also watched him in a really shitty movie Shanghai Knights (Jackie Chan and Owen Wilson). Admittedly, Aiden isn’t amazing in that movie but it’s probably the terrible material and not him – cause he was definitely the best part of the film.
SmegmaQuote Reply
Aidan Gillen is so amazing, Littlefinger can only hope to be like him.
ablaaaQuote Reply
At 0:47 in the artisans video – that’s my Brazier!!!
RimshotQuote Reply
Ok, as a disclaimer, this post is about to be completely superficial/shallow/trivial/etc. But all the comments on Aidan/Petyr’s attractiveness got me thinking just how blessed we ladies are with the casting for this show. Please see below. :)
Devious hot – Littlefinger
Athletic hot – Jaime
Bring home to Mom hot – Robb
Tormented hero hot – Jon
Exotic hot – Drogo
Past the edge of insanity hot – Viserys
Fairytale prince hot – Loras
Fashionable hot – Renly
Intellectual hot – Tyrion (okay, so we all know BOOK Tyrion isn’t physically attractive, but Dinklage’s Tyrion is another breed!)
LinaQuote Reply
Yes, finally a Littlefinger character video. With Petyr being one of my favourite characters in the books, I can gladly say that Aidan Gillian seems to suit the role perfectly.
I hope that there will be character videos for the rest of the main cast also. Oh, how much I’d like to see a Theon and a Hound video… Those two, Joffrey and Ser Jorah are the only people left in the main cast not having a video.
Stefan LangmannQuote Reply
Haha, I was just having this conversation with a friend of mine. I can’t get over all the amazing eye candy that women have in GOT. It’s really hard to choose – one moment I’m fawning over Kit Harington, the next I realize that I’m ten years older than him so I go to Harry Lloyd, then I realize I’ve got the amazing Aiden Gillen to make me squirm in all the right ways – and I was NOT prepared to think NCW was hot (although Jaime is one of my favorite characters) but his smile is exactly what the character SHOULD have – he’s not just athletic, but charming and badass. Richard Madden is also a great looking guy, and Peter Dinklage is definitely a handsome guy. As I’ve said elsewhere, I don’t even like BIG men but Jason Momoa is fantastic as Drogo and I can say I would definitely ride that stallion.
OMG what is wrong with me today!?
SmegmaQuote Reply
this has been the character portrait i’ve been waiting for… well this and The Hound’s but i’m not expecting them to profile The Hound. i kind of like that they’re keeping The Hound & Varys a little more under wraps
btw, with all the pirates frequenting this site i’m a bit shocked someone hasn’t yet gotten the Direwolves scene up onto YouTube… i can’t wait until April 4th for TWC to get it, people!
OneTooFreeQuote Reply
Lina,
… You are brilliant.
Oh, and let’s not forget our dear Lancel, who is most definitely the brown-nosey-but-beautiful sort.
InkasrainQuote Reply
Great clip, Gillen is going to be a great “Littlefinger”. Btw Is the extended Start feature up on youtube yet?
David TQuote Reply
The latest trailer put my doubts about headey to rest. This put all my doubts about gillen to rest. The cgi shots look spectacular. This show is gonna rock!
I would love to hear some reactions from people who have seen the direwolf scene.
On a side note, it’s almost April and dance still isn’t done. Never underestimate georges ability to not write.
The DarkstarQuote Reply
This. Times a lot. To the power of a lot.
Plus:
Noble, Honorable hot – Ned
And I’ll be the one to say it…
Tormented, Want to make all better hot – The Hound
Evil Massive Mountain of a man hot – The Mountain
The list keeps going. And I cannot wait to see Sophie and Aiden in future seasons. Their development is going to be horrifically captivating.
Becky WilsonQuote Reply
I remember when my grandpa used to sit me on his lap and tell me stories hot – Maester Aemon!
Lord Ned’s HeadQuote Reply
Oh please HBO give us the HOOOOUUUUND!!!!
And – my hearts dearest wish: an outside view of the Eyrie.
JennyQuote Reply
That expression on his face that he has at the end when he’s describing the character is so eerily like Littlefinger I got goosebumps.
RistoQuote Reply
Now it’s official, yes will premiere Game of Thrones in Israel on 21.4, a mere 4 days after after it premieres in the US. This is quite a precedent. I can’t recall any first season to premiere so early in Israel.
Amir MishaliQuote Reply
I’ve never been on a website before where the women are talking more about the eye-candy than the men (while we guys have nothing to complain about (are you reading along Emilia?)), GoT is breaking boundaries.
KnurkQuote Reply
Lancel appeared in Baratheon’s video, didn’t he? That guy in red carrying a mug of wine. Although it was only a quick glimpse of him, I thought he was a super-hottie. :) Wanna see more of Lancel!
Rinoa De la PicaQuote Reply
If we get more seasons, Sophie Turner will be the actress with the most creepy relationships ever..
Littlefinger, Hound, Joffrey, Ser Dantos, Tyrion…
That will be not easy… lol
BigTomDEQuote Reply
I can appreciate the subtleties it might take to not overact in a role when it’s supposed to be annoying or cloying. And being Team Sansa, I am pretty picky about how this character is portrayed, and I really like what I see so far.
Sophie has made Sansa slower, dreamier than she herself is; if you watch or listen to a Sophie Turner interview, she comes across as the typical teenager, speaking in excited, breathy word-bursts. Her Sansa speaks slower, more hesitantly, as if coming out of a dream. She’s a subdued character; proper and careful with her words, and thus perceived as slow of wit.
Even the critiqued “Please, please” she gives her mother is subdued, because I suspect raising one’s voice to one’s mother does not show one is mature enough to be made queen. And she really wants that! (A Westerosi Kate Middleton?) So I suspect she’s trying to show she’s calm and mature whilst flashing mum the big blue puppydog eyes.
Arya acts out; Sansa follows the rules of decorum at all times. It’s what gets her into trouble.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
Smegma,
Nothing is wrong with you! They are all delicious!
Inkasrain,
Religious order shouldn’t-but-I-would hot – Lancel ;)
Becky Wilson,
Clegane fangirl!! :) Ned is definitely a hot dad; Cat is lucky!
YAY, I’m glad the GoT lady fans are out in full force!
LinaQuote Reply
You know, I’d never even heard of it until people started talking about it here. I must live under a rock or something, everyone here has only great things to say about it. I was talking to one of my old teachers about it recently actually, and she described it to me as that it’s not so much like your everyday tv show as more like watching a novel. Which I have to say sounds quite intriguing. I’ll add it to the top of my things-to-watch-asap list :) (and I will for sure start from the beginning.)
Hahaha oh my goodness, I’ve seen that movie! Was he the snobby bad guy who was trying to kill the queen and steal the throne? That’s hilarious ;)
KangaQuote Reply
Rinoa De la Pica,
I do occasionally exaggerate how attractive I find certain actors (because, well, it’s fun) but Eugene Simon is gorgeous. Like, otherworldly, makes-your-breath-catch, ridiculously handsome. Observe.
And now, um… carry on with intelligent discussions, everyone.
InkasrainQuote Reply
On a Sansa note, do you think they’re going to include a lot of the abuse from the books in the show? i.e. Joff having people beat her/strip her/etc.? I would say yes, since HBO has appeared really faithful to the text, but those things will be rough to watch, and especially with a young actress involved. :( Poor Sansa.
LinaQuote Reply
Wwhooooofff… Good point right there!
EdQuote Reply
Inkasrain,
*clicks like button*
You’re definitely not the only one here who was oggling him when that picture surfaced. ;)
KangaQuote Reply
Dude Littlefinger is perfect. I wanted to call Chris Hansen and a party van during his entire interaction with Sansa.
LindsayQuote Reply
That’s a change from the book, Arya does not attend the Tourney at all.
MormegilQuote Reply
I agree. I am Team Sansa, too. (I like saying that.) Sophie seems to have her character’s motivations down perfectly.
HollyoakQuote Reply
Thomas Aagaard,
Let’s try to remember in the books, Sansa has yet to blossom. Not sure if they will use the scene where she tries to burn her bedsheets to avoid being married off in the later books. It’s a pivotal part of the story so not sure if they can use it with the aging up.
Catherine Henry-GreskovicQuote Reply
Awesome video, Aiden Gillen will be perfect. I’m so glad I watched the Wire shortly before casting began, because I already thought he was excellent before ever considering he would be cast in GOT!
Interesting glimpse of the new Varys/LF scene. I guess they will be playing up his attraction to Cat a little more obviously than in the first book.
I’m a huge fan of Michelle Fairley from what I’ve seen so far… but I think Jennifer Ehle looks like a more believable person for LF’s undying crush. It’s probably the one area I still think Ehle might have been better.
LexQuote Reply
Wow, seriously impressed bi Gillen. Not surprised at all though, he is excellent in The Wire.
Speaking of The Wire, I hadn’t heard of it before it was mentioned here; now I’m up to season 4, and it one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.
Now, the pedoproblem. While it’s debatable in the book, it’s cut and dried in the series. Show Sansa is too old to make LF a pedo. Check it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia
GaRQuote Reply
We definitely are!
And there isn’t a one of the actors listed that I would kick out of bed for eating cookies… ;)
McSherrieQuote Reply
You can say that again.
I’m hoping for Sansa and Tyrion to end up together :)
Johan SporreQuote Reply
Well, everyone has different tastes, thank goodness!! Aiden is fantastic for this part but his creepiness/slimyness is certainly NOT sexy to me…..he’s just…super creepy. eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww!!! But I’ll take emoJon or Ned or Tyrion anytime…….;o)
mimiQuote Reply
I would like to humbly beg the powers that be for a video featuring the Hound. We have barely seen him and I’ve got a fangirl crush to nurture!
Elizabeth HildickQuote Reply
OT entirely and I’m sure that most of you know this already, but the six promo poster images are now available on t-shirts over at the HBO store!
McSherrieQuote Reply
I’ve lurked on this website for a long, long time without ever posting. But HAS to be said: the man has absolutely NAILED Petyr’s characterization. This is by far my favorite profile video, and they give you just a taste of all the things that make the charasmatic Littlefinger.
SPOILER DISCUSSION: Has anyone else had the feeling that, in the books, its Littlefinger that is behind absolutely everything? He convinces Lisa to poison Robert and blame the Lannisters (starting the huge conflict between Stark and Lannister), betrays Ned after Robert dies (probably convinced a petty boy is easier to deal with on the throne than a man such as Ned), and has Joffery murdered and swoops Sansa out of Kings Landing. Really, what I see him doing is attempting to gain all the power behind the North and East and attempting to take it all for himself with the forces he has binded to his cause. Anyone else agree? Yes, its speculation, but it just seems perfect and ALMOST obvious.
MitchQuote Reply
It think the “aging up” of Sansa is brilliant. The age difference between her and Littlfinger is wide enough to be creepy but not so much that certain U.S. cable news personalities call for a boycott of HBO.
I never watched The Wire. HBOGO.com here I go, baby.
Mike ChairQuote Reply
On the topic of creepy, and Littlefinger related things, do you guys think that Lysa will be as creepy of a mother to Robin as she is in the books, for example by still breastfeeding Robin?
I would hope that was still in (since it’s a great thing to show the freaky Lysa) but there’s a big complication in having a boy of that age performing such a scene, and it will perhaps seem a bit strange to include it but always make it out of view when so much else will be shown.
Tywin's BastardQuote Reply
Kanga,
Yes, The Wire has been compared to a novel rather than a typical show – there isn’t a lot of “cliffhangers” or way dramatic moments or action – but its evolution is slower and more carefully drawn out. Not to say that it’s dull – there’s a LOT going on – but it’s like watching chunks out of these people’s lives rather than just the highlights :) Some people turn it off after just a couple of episodes because “not enough has happened” but really, they are doing themselves a serious disservice.
And yes, that was Aiden Gillen as the bad guy trying to kill the queen. I had watched it only because he was in it and I wanted to get that 90 minutes of my life back. But his presence soothed my tortured soul.
SmegmaQuote Reply
I have had the same sentiments regarding Fairley and Littlefinger. He’s just too hot for her to make it seem believable that he’s been carrying around a thing for her for so long. I thought Ehle’s beauty would make this a more believable plot point. HOWEVER, it’s more about what used to be when they were young rather than what he feels for her currently – which is why he fixates on Sansa. I am a huge huge huge fan of Ehle and she was my long hoped for choice, so I was supremely disappointed at her departure – but I do think Fairley has shown to be a great actress and that to me is the most important thing.
SmegmaQuote Reply
McSherrie,
People get married off from about the age of 8.
JohnQuote Reply
John,
Not exactly. They get betrothed, but most cultures wait until the woman/girl is able to bear children before actually performing the marriage ceremony.
McSherrieQuote Reply
It’s funny, cause I have always loved Sean Bean and thought he was HOT – would see movies just cause he was in them. He was always “my” Ned and so I was thrilled when he was cast. But with all these other amazing castings I’ve kinda forgotten how much I loved Bean. So many hot guys, so little time. But as it stands my top three are tied at Jon/Viserys/Littlefinger, Jaime a very close second (maybe even tied for first haha), with Ned/Robb/Tyrion/Drogo/etc all a very close third. I do dig the Hound too so maybe I should include him on this list. Oh shit, and Jory too! And Marillion! GAH TOO MUCH TO HANDLE!
SmegmaQuote Reply
Good Lord, where have you been all your life?
Women are much worse in that respect.
Think of Robert Pattinson and re-think what you wrote :D
(I do not fancy Robert Pattinson!!!)
JennyQuote Reply
Brilliant, you made me LOL.
There are definitely a lot of good looking men cast. And a lot of good looking women as well.
I can appreciate all the enthousiasm displayed here but remember there are almost no real ugly (looking) people in film/TV.
to be on topic: I never was all that interested in littlefinger while reading GOT (that all changed reading the later books). Aidan Gillen will certainly draw anyone’s attention from the start.
With every bit I see of the series I am getting more convinced this will be amazing.
DahnQuote Reply
Smegma,
Funny, but I assumed you were a male with a really disgusting sense of humor, because of your name. I still can’t figure out why anyone in their right mind would name themselves smegma… (gag).
LexQuote Reply
God, I know!!!
Funny thing, sorta … Years ago, I went to school (University) with a guy who was a dwarf. But he was SO smart and completely the sharpest tool in the shed that I felt “Hey! I could completely be attracted to this guy!”
Which – I guess – meant that I was, all along. Hmm … wonder, if he’s into AGoT at all …
*musing*
Kathrina MartinsenQuote Reply
LOL no just a female with a disgusting sense of humor :P I’ve had this username on so many sites that I don’t even think about it much until someone points it out. I do get people thinking I’m a guy a lot – but definitely a woman that just appreciates gross funny stuff :)
SmegmaQuote Reply
It’s interesting to think that if/when they get around to filming Seasons 3 & 4, Sophie Turner will actually be quite a bit older — maybe even 17/18? I wonder if that will have much impact on Alayne’s relationship with Littlefinger.
I’ve always read Littlefinger’s feelings towards Sansa as sorta half-pedobear and half-paternal — he sees Sansa as the daughter he could have had with Catelyn. Weird, yeah, but Littlefinger clearly has some emotional issues to work out.
I also kind of love the Sandor/Sansa relationship — creepy, I know! But his confessions to her have always struck me as both horrifying and pathetic — his “little bird,” etc. Makes him so much more sympathetic/tragic.
Carrie MeathrellQuote Reply
Lina,
Damn gurl, damn! I also agree with all of this and I love that WiC is such a safe space to exercise the female gaze (also possibly the male-on-male gaze, nothing but love there as well!).
I’ve actually been carefully studying pictures of Jason Momoa in real life and have come to the decision that he might be the most beautiful man on the planet right now. (And married to/having babies with Lisa Bonet? REALLY YOU GUYS? What, you can’t spread all those good looks around the gene pool at least a LITTLE BIT?)
However, I’m also firmly in the “Team Jon” camp. (When are they casting for Ygritte, again? Is there a sign-up sheet somewhere around here? Christina Hendricks dyes her blonde hair red, I can certainly do the same!)
Carrie MeathrellQuote Reply
Jenny,
I confess, I’ve never been to a Twilight fansite.
Also, I just looked up what Smegma is, and I thought I knew some gross stuff..
KnurkQuote Reply
yes I just watched watched the extended Stark video and costume video via hbo on demand and they really were awesome. I do feel sorry for people who haven’t seen them yet. They really got my excitement vamped up to full gear again.
Luke likelyQuote Reply
The ‘music’ that kicks in around the 0:58 sec mark is spot on brilliant. Hope we get themes like that throughout the series!
DuchessQuote Reply
Seen a couple people mention they haven’t seen The Wire…
Well, if you’d like to see some more Aidan, check the show out! Not the same kind of character, but still a great performance.
HELL, forget Aidan, if you haven’t seen The Wire, see it now! Period. It’s hands down the greatest TV show ever made, and will probably remain so for decades to come. I’m sure GoT will be awesome, but it still wont come close to touching The Wire.
OKENOQuote Reply
I’ll be honest. I hate Littlefinger. As a character I found him to be horrid…and just a major pain in everyone’s you know what. He did sort of redeem himself in my eyes in AFFC when he saved Alayne but I still don’t trust him. However, if anyone can play a character I’ll love to hate, I imagine Aiden can do it.
By the way, it’s weird how un-Irish he sounds (to me). Until he says the name Littlefinger (Li-L-Finger, lol), he sounds just like Mayor Tommy Carcetti.
And on the topic of hotness, I whole-heartedly agree with being extremely happy with all the hot actors in this show. I would like to add the following to the list Benjen who I think/hope is Cold Hands
PS: I really can’t wait to see who they cast as Euron and Victarion and if we will see Rhaegar Targaryen in a flashbacks.
sareetaQuote Reply
if anyone is interested, my sister filmed with a camera two videos from comcast and she uploading them on youtube right now. the quality is low, but you can see the finding of the direwolf puppies and shirtless robb (and jon)
http://www.youtube.com/user/echoes994?feature=mhsn
livyQuote Reply
Littlefinger **
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
livy,
Thanks! Better than nothing, and I’ve seen far worse camera tv-recordings. One tip: next tame put the camera on a steady surface. Now going to get my fix…
KnurkQuote Reply
Littlefinger is the epitome of the Magnificent Bastard, and how I love him for it. He just has that smarmy charm that makes me happy.
RedLotusAlchemistQuote Reply
Catherine Henry-Greskovic,
I don’t think the ageing up is a problem at all- I understand Sansa is intended to be a little younger than Sophie’s true age, she will still be young enough. I know some girls who didn’t start until 16, so it’s entirely believable if Sansa is 15 or 16 when that scene occurs. It’s the older end of the age range but it certainly happens.
ShinyteapotQuote Reply
I have all the characters descriptions written down on paper. While it does say he’s short, shorter than Catelyn, It also says that his family’s modest holdings were on the smallest of the Fingers. So I would guess that his nick name has something to do with both of those things to some degree. Having said that, I personally never cared that he was taller than the character is described maybe because he just seems like Littlfinger to me, in how he looks and everything
Luke likelyQuote Reply
livy,
Thank you!
The DarkstarQuote Reply
So right! I was planning on keeping my fawning to myself but not anymore! Kit Harington, Richard Madden, NCW and Harry Lloyd… Suffice it to say I wouldn’t mind getting my Kit off for any of them! :L (Makes fanning motion with both hands) Eugene Simon is quite cute too but he’s a little young for me I think…
BroQuote Reply
Loved the Stark feature and the Direwolves-scene, but the score in that scene does sound ‘impending doom’ bad. I hope it’s temporary… (or who knows, maybe it Livy’s sister’s laundromat)
KnurkQuote Reply
Ladies, in the extended stark video, we could see two young men shirtless. Perfect bodies, very muscular, but maybe too much for “17 year old” boys. Need bromance. Sorry.
I’m with all teams.
ValornaQuote Reply
agree!!!
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
livy,
Thanks to you and your sister, much appreciated!
A slight change at the end of the direwolf scene. Interesting.
ShinyteapotQuote Reply
Knurk,
that is my (the sister, not the laundromat ;) )
i’ve actually filmed with a cell phone, there was a lot of traffic in the street, people talking in the back of the house and that horrible reflection of the window in the the mirror… as soon as i’ll figure out how to film in a better way, i’ll do it :D
Knurk,
i know… but i couldn’t hold that stupid cell phone any longer!!
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Hahaha, learn something new every day huh? You are welcome! :)
SmegmaQuote Reply
By the way, for those that want to see lots of mostly naked Aiden Gillen, you can google “Queer as Folk UK episodes” and there are several places with them – I think I actually found them on hulu so you can also start there. There is a lot of man on man kissing and a lot of simulated sex – so just be aware if that stuff doesn’t float your boat. But he is pretty damn excellent in the show (he’s the best reason to watch, really). For those wondering, Aiden Gillen has been married to a woman recently – but divorced now. I have no idea what he identifies as – bi or straight – but he definitely does not shy away from the sex in QAF – and he had a few scenes in The Wire too (straight sex though). Funny enough, if I remember right, his character in QAF gets it on with a 15 year old boy :P
SmegmaQuote Reply
Oh.
My.
God.
Three uninterrupted minutes of bliss with the Direwolf scene.
And yes, Ghost has red eyes.
It was so freaking cool.
Haven’t felt this way since getting my first real look at a scene from Lord of the Rings.
HollyoakQuote Reply
I’ve been meaning to ask someone about this but only thought of it when I saw Joseph Mawle in the Stark video. Why did Benjen join the Nights Watch in the first place?
BroQuote Reply
Smegma,
Queer as Folk! I loved that show, and i think i like the UK series better. When i’ve found out that Aiden Gillen was going to be casted as LF, i’ve thought something like “OMG, Stuart Allan Jones!!” :D
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
I am dying right now those direwolves are so cute. I want to take Ghost and Summer home with me, adorable.
Thank you Livy for the clip, I hope HBO on demand puts the direwolves scene up soon.
Jessica C.Quote Reply
OT, but I’m so psyched!
I just booked a trip to NYC from the 13th to the 18th of April. Is there a gathering somewhere on the 17th?
Now I need to find a suitcase with room for loads of t-shirts and other merchandise :)
Johan SporreQuote Reply
wow, manly muscles and baby direwolves!! fangirlgasm!
MegQuote Reply
Yeah he’s excellent – and I do prefer the UK version as well! As iconic as he was as Stuart, for some reason I identify with him more as Tommy Carcetti – maybe because I watched The Wire more recently (although I’ve been itching to rewatch QAF so maybe it’s a great time to do it).
SmegmaQuote Reply
I wondered if the eyes were red – it was hard for me to tell on the tv, or if I was just seeing things like people have been with Dany’s eyes (they are not purple, they are blue/grey). But that’s cool that they are red!
SmegmaQuote Reply
Ahhh I was just watching this earlier and…mmmm XD
People who have seen the direwolf scene – it’s On Demand you said? Comcast? I have Cablevision and we don’t have it in our HBO On Demand. Is it online anywhere?! I checked HBO On Demand as soon as I got home from work hoping for some puppage, but alas, there were no direwolves in sight. :( So instead I watched the Starks and Targs.
AND, in the Targ video, during her interview, Dany DEFINITELY had purple eyes!! :D But then in other videos, they look blue! I’m so confused but excited by the possibility of violet irises! Liz Taylor just died, it would be perfect timing to introduce another classic beauty with purple eyes!
LinaQuote Reply
We don’t know.
Some people think there must be some big secret to it but it may just be something he wanted to do. Members of the Stark family had been joining the Nights Watch for thousands of years, as a third son he may have thought about it from an early age and once Ned had returned home and Benjen was no longer needed as The Stark in Winterfell he decided to join.
MormegilQuote Reply
Johan Sporre,
If you’re not already, you should probably be lurking on this Westeros forum thread where they’re talking about NYC get-togethers, although it looks like no one’s made a plan so far.
mummerQuote Reply
livy,
Thanks for posting! Love the direwolf scene.
salukQuote Reply
Yes. Comcast Cable in the Top Picks section listed as Exclusive Scene.
HollyoakQuote Reply
O.M.G. This is what I wanted the whole time. I been absolutely in love with Littlefinger since he said the line “All desires are valid… to a man with a full purse” a while back. He haven´t disappoined me yet. I hope he is so good as he looks.
CarysQuote Reply
Wow. What a fun idea. I approve!
ZackQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
awesome. So you weren’t doing laundry then? This may be bad news for the score haha. Really appreciating that someone’s taking effort in giving the non-americans those classy exclusives. Is there a chance that the new costumes video is also in the comcast section, the one on the topleft?
KnurkQuote Reply
Knurk,
I’m going to check tomorrow.. now is american idol time here -_-”
Actallu, i’m not american too, im just living here for a while…so i know how does it feel :D
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
*actually
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Anyone else concerned about Sansa/Sophie Turner’s acting? :/
She sounds flat in every clip thus far..
Sir DayneQuote Reply
So, after getting my new GoT fix (I’m good for 3 more days, yes I’m waiting for sunday) I was rewatching all the good stuff that’s given to us the last couple of weeks. And there was one thing that I was kind of surprised of, and that’s when the Old Bear is telling Tyrion that all the Wildlings are fleeing south (fear and blood trailer). Is this an error in the show or does the Old Bear make the same error in the books?
Elena Amici,
and I thought Elena Amici was such an ordinary American name. Are you living there long enough to see all the ten episodes?
KnurkQuote Reply
Fellow New Yorkers I’m down for a GoT meet-up the weekend of the premiere. I am crossing my fingers for HBO to have some sort of Q and A that is open to the public that week.
Jessica C.Quote Reply
Knurk,
I don’t think it’s an error… a lot of wildlings are fleeing south as the Others get more powerful with the approach of the Badass Winter of Death. While most of them later turn out to have joined up with Mance Rayder, a minority flee (and a smaller minority (Craster, etc) stay where they are). A band of them (Stiv, Hali, Osha) try to rob Bran, but get chewed by wolves, shot with arrows and taken prisoner for the troubles.
GaRQuote Reply
No.
HollyoakQuote Reply
NYC meetup!! We can all go to the HBO store together!
LinaQuote Reply
of course. She is playing sansa who is playing a part. She is being teenage melodramatic ;)
(IMHO, it’s brilliant)
LOL, really? Does this mean that my engish is understandable? :D
No, im actually from italy, im just staying here this year.. i have to come back there in a couple of months (and i’m going to miss the last two episodes. Sorry, HBO, but i’ll do something not-so-legal to watch your show)
What about you?
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Guess I should be more specific. So far she has seemed perfect to me. Granted, we haven’t seen her in a complete scene, but I am sure the casting director and the folks involved with the production know what they are doing. So far, all of the casting has been, as the Brits say, spot on.
We know that she matures and her motivations change greatly as the books progress, and I am sure that the Powers that Be took that into consideration when they cast Sophie.
I am Team Sophie.
I think she will do fantastic.
HollyoakQuote Reply
Elena, sei italiana?! Di dove sei? Ho studiato a Padova due anni fa; mi manca ancora ogni giorno!
Did you read the books in Italian or English? I’m wondering how the translation is and whether or not they translate the character and place names? Is it Jon Snow or Gianni Neve? King’s Landing = Sbarco del Re? ;)
I have to say, I’m really glad that ASOIAF has such an international audience; it’s great being able to discuss the books with people from around the world!
LinaQuote Reply
Sir Dayne,
No.
LexQuote Reply
I haven’t seen anyone post this yet.
There is a new audio interview up on Westeros.com featuring Kristian Nairn (Hodor).
http://www.westeros.org/GoT/Features/Entry/Interview_with_Kristian_Narin/
I haven’t listened to it yet. Just thought some people would like to know.
Andreas PapaeliasQuote Reply
Yes!
Ghost has red eyes
Jordan HealeyQuote Reply
Jessica C., Lina,
Oh, I’m there.
InkasrainQuote Reply
Favorite casting yet.
Franny BeeQuote Reply
Andreas Papaelias,
Hodor! Good interview.
LexQuote Reply
Andreas Papaelias,
Hodor gives a shoutout to FaB (axe chucker) towards the end!
LexQuote Reply
Lex,
I look forward to hearing that. The previous interview with Finn Jones actually got me more excited for the series than many of the trailers and previews. He was so enthusiastic about the role and seemed like he really understood and cared about his character.
Andreas PapaeliasQuote Reply
Nah. I actually agree with you, but frankly: Let’s just say she ISN’T that great of an actress… So what? The series will still be utterly amazing with an AMAZING cast. ONE bad actress won’t mean shit to me.
EdQuote Reply
By the way, just wanted to state for the record that i called Comcast today, and I am now an official HBO subscriber!!! Bring on April 17th!!!
EdQuote Reply
I think you just described a pimp. Funny, given the character.
WingQuote Reply
Oh, and is it just me or did anyone else read (and hope to see) Littlefinger’s interest in Sansa split two ways. Yes, he looks at her and he see’s Cat, and this excites him, but even more so, he sees a perfectly placed piece on the board.
Creepy may be his hobby but Advancement is where his heart lies.
WingQuote Reply
In his possible long game…don’t you think there might be an element of revenge ?
obsidianQuote Reply
obsidian,
Indeed I do.
KGQuote Reply
Even advancement may only be a means to and end.
obsidianQuote Reply
mummer,
Thanks, hopefully it’ll become a bit more active in the coming weeks.
Johan SporreQuote Reply
This is the second time I’ve seen the “whores don’t sink” line, but I see they’ve again omitted the following line, which is really the punchline – “and when they’re boarded by pirates, why, pirates pay good coin like anybody else”.
A pity, since that line is hilarious.
PeltastQuote Reply
Right, because 40 year olds with a 15/16 year old is less pedo than 40 year olds with a 13/14 year old.
clemintineQuote Reply
During the war, after Brandon’s death Benjen was also like the “spare heir” so to speak. Looks like the Starks still needed one after the war anyways! :p
clemintineQuote Reply
I don’t know, I’m not too keen on tv Renly, he’s way less attractive than my picture of him from the books. I see it as conservation as hotness. Renly is not hot, so Tyrion has to pick up the slack and be hot.
clemintineQuote Reply
Uh, yes? At least in many countrys, the sexual age limit is 15-16.
sjweningsQuote Reply
People rarely knows what pedo really means. A 15/16 years old is not a prepubescent, so doesn’t matter is the man is 60 or whatever. Can be freaky, but is not pedophilia.
fr0d0b0ls0nQuote Reply
It doesn’t matter what the legality is! 16 year olds are still not fully developed adults, both physically and emotionally. They are in the transition between adult and child, maybe not prepubescent, but definitely duringpubescent. So yes, I would say it is paedophilia, and appalling that people on these boards actually romanticize any such relationships.
clemintineQuote Reply
sjwenings,
Aidan is 42 and the age of consent here is 16. In Ireland it’s 17. Whatever way you look at it it’s yukky – but that said, it was the way it was in Westeros!
silverjaimeQuote Reply
Aidan has been with his wife since they were teenagers. I don’t think they’ve divorced, and they have 2 children. If you ask him about QAF sex scenes he’ll say “it’s called ACTING”.
silverjaimeQuote Reply
So I listened to the interview with the dude who plays Hodor and he mentions he gets naked on the show.
Am I wrong for being excited for this nude scene the way some are for Clarke?? haha
Jessica C.Quote Reply
clemintine,
It doesn’t really matter what you would say, pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder that has it’s definitions and they aren’t based on the whims of random people like us.
If you’re 16 you’re actually old enough to be diagnosed as a pedophile and there has been such cases.
Tywin’s BastardQuote Reply
Don’t let Twilight Fans hear you mentioned “‘R Padz” in one comments with Smegma.
I’m sure they are convinced he has none.
Keep clean! :D
Knurk,
JennyQuote Reply
clemintine,
Well, regardless of what you think, the definition of paedophilia is attraction to a pre-pubescent child. I was with my girlfriend from the age of 14 to 21 and she certainly didn’t change much physically during that time.
NickQuote Reply
Ah, interesting – I do remember him saying that he was acting and that his mom or whatever wondered how they achieved such realistic looking man on man stuff (like the butt licking) and they told her it was “camera tricks” lol. I THOUGHT he identified as straight but I didn’t want to be yelled at in case I was wrong and upset someone who was really invested as having Aidan as a member of the GLBT community :)
As far as him being married, I did see on IMDB that he is listed as divorced. Of course that isn’t always the most reliable source so I’ll take your word on it :)
SmegmaQuote Reply
In Spain the age of consent is 13 for example.
fr0d0b0ls0nQuote Reply
clemintine,
what we have here is either hebephilia or ephebophilia and is common in many world cultures, including western culture just over a 100 years ago. your post shows a shocking amount of ignorance to the world around you..
Here’s a question for you, why is it wrong?
Gen gap relationships in our culture are frowned upon because of the unequal balance o power they present. the older more financially secure, more sexually confidant can easily manipulate the younger adolescent. Now in a westeros culture where the man is given the power from the beginning, a young wife, married before she starts exploring her sexuality with other men, taught to be dependant on her husband for all her need starting before she can make any significant connections in court… Do you not see why a young wife would be ideal?
not only that, but attraction is CULTURAL! what is attractive is very much taught and brainwashed over time. once voluptuous woman were considered the ideal, the stick figures of today would be sneered at. I have a collection of silent films, you can really see the different standards of beauty over the ages just from that. And yes, that includes seeing 15 year olds as attractive, and 25 year olds as past their prime.
My great grandmother was married at 13, we really are not that far removed from this sort of behaviour. please get off your moral high horse and do some research.
sorry fro the rant. this is a topic i get really frustrated with.
Ashley BlackwoodyQuote Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUKa0CO2rU
Stevethepirate strikes again. Heres the new “Costumes”-feature. The quality sucks, because of problems with recording this stuff (noone else has managed to do so yet – or just won’t) but i’m sure some people here find it interesting enough.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Well who says they have to be completely developed, then? You?
Either way. I guess by your definition, being a pedophile and living out that attraction is legal in most countries.
Btw, for what it’s worth – i do not think it’s OK for say, a 40 year old guy to have sex with a 16 year old.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Yeah attraction to a 16 year old is definitely not pedophilia. I have a 16 year old daughter and she is plenty “physically” developed, more so than 40 year old women that I know. Would I approve of a 40 year old man and her dating? Hell no. I barely approve of her having ANY bf, even if he’s 17 :P
Anyway, it’s a complicated issue. There are girls at 16 (like my daughter) that have been developed physically for years. They LOOK like they are old enough – but mentally and emotionally the 16 year old is just at a HUGE disadvantange to someone in their 40′s. I would question a 40 year old’s motives about having interest in someone that young, but not assume they are pedo’s. I remember being that young and plenty of older guys liked me and I knew girls dating much older guys. Young girls often like older men. Older men often like young girls (at least aesthetically, maybe not emotionally/mentally). They are full of hormones and extremely fertile – that’s a biological fact that men react to them in a physical way (unless there are other deviancy such as being attracted only to much older women or whatever). The legal aspect is there to protect the younger person, and it’s not a hard and fast line anyway as some people have mentioned. In some areas it’s 15, others it’s 18. Sexuality and maturity are complicated and there will never be a 100% right way to approach it – but by having those age minimums in place they can at least draw a line for protection of the minors.
Sorry I am tired and rambling so I should just stop it there – just wanted to say that I don’t think LF is necessarily attracted to little girls (after all he has lots of sex with Lysa) but rather has a fixation on one teenager. He’s disturbing for a lot of ways but not necessarily for pedophilia
SmegmaQuote Reply
I want to make love to steve the pirate right now…
Every day without a new video starts to turn into a bad day.
The addiction takes it’s toll.
Prostitution for HBO? Not out of the question.
(I am 31 years old so don’t worry :D)
NOT SERIOUS…
Only slightly over the top.
JennyQuote Reply
About the entire pedo-debate.
There’s so much talk about Sansa and nothing about Dany…
Where’s the difference?
SPOILERS ALERT!!!!
Sansa does not actually have sex – the only one she ever comes close to have it with is neither Littlefinger nor Hound, only T. who actually tries but has pity on her.
Dany on the contrary is sexually abused every night by a giant, much older man, and is legally his and everybody thinks the Dany Drogo story “lovely”?
JennyQuote Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqUkMNHun9E
And heres a crappy version of the extended Stark video by some other guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgmgc0Lxp-M
…and the Direwolf scene.
sjweningsQuote Reply
Wow, i love the direwolf-scene!
sjweningsQuote Reply
Well of course I was kidding about your name sounding American haha, my best guess would have been Croatian or something. For me it’ll probably be not so legal too, because every Dutch station I emailed refuses to answer me, or in two cases just answerd with: we’ll see. The bastards, I even tried to play them out against eachother: I’m sure you don’t want to see this hit-show in the hands of the enemy do you? But it didn’t work.
Keep in mind that Steve is a girl (named Sue).
KnurkQuote Reply
Knurk,
Oh is he/she? gnaa
JennyQuote Reply
Smegma,
I’ve no actual knowledge of Aidan’s married state, except that I saw both Aidan and his wife recently. So if they’re divorced, they’re very friendly.
silverjaimeQuote Reply
If one thinks that Charlton Heston has played Moses, one cannot put too much weight on actor’s personal convictions or habits.
JennyQuote Reply
Hahaha, love it! I think Gethin Anthony is a pretty good-looking guy, but I do agree he doesn’t really fit my mental image of Renly. I was really glad to see him in a nice costume in the House Baratheon video though, as before that we only had the quick flash of him at the tourney (?) in the green potato sack.
I find it funny that this thread has turned into a debate about pedophilia. When people said, “Oh Littlefinger is so pedo,” I’m not sure they meant it to say he is scientifically or technically a pedophile because he is attracted to a girl of such and such an age. I think it was just being used more colloquially to say he’s creeping on Sansa. God, we’re so good at gatewatching we’ve turned our own COMMENTS into a gate (pedogate? shudder…)
So I think some people have already said this but I agree: He doesn’t take an interest in Sansa because she is young; he takes an interest in her because she is Sansa- because of Cat, and (probably*) because he thinks he can use her for his scheme of advancement.
*I say probably because I still can’t figure out what he’s up to. We know he wants Sansa to take both the Eyrie and Winterfell, but I see this desire having a few possible motivations: (1) he wants to do it for HIS sake, so he can rule through her/hold influence over her, and having the North/Eyrie would be huge; (2) out of his so-called love for Catelyn, he wants to see Sansa happy and restored to her rightful place (and he’ll still end up winning because she will remember what he did for her); or (3) the plan is a sham and a last-ditch effort to posthumously stick it to Brandon and Ned Stark for “stealing” the girl he loved. At this point I’m leaning toward a blend of 1 and 2.
LinaQuote Reply
hey Elena, I’m italian too! nice to meet other italian fans here!
Beatrice SorianiQuote Reply
Jenny,
There are a few major differences, really, but most are in the book and (potentially) not in the series.
First, Dany is a “flowered” woman, where Sansa doesn’t have her first period until SoS – which is why she and Joff were not married immediately after Ned’s death. From a sociological/psychological perspective, therefore, The Hound and LF both show pedophiliac tendencies. Drogo, on the other hand, marries a woman who is able to bear children – even if she is inexperienced. Additionally, I always got the feeling that Drogo is closer in age to Dany than LF is to Sansa, but that could be entirely wrong.
I think that the big problem that we are having with this debate is acknowledging that we are talking about totally different things. We have the legal aspect (age of consent), the psychological aspect (pedophilia as a disorder), and the social aspect (the “ewwww” reaction that a lot of people have at the thought of that large an age gap between those discussed). While the first and second factors may not come into play with the LF/Sansa relationship on the series, I’m pretty sure that the third will stick around.
McSherrieQuote Reply
Jenny,
I can haz sex with Jenny?
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
I think the more disturbing LF is, the more likable Sansa becomes. People who haven’t read the books will pity her much more than the fans I think. Most fans hated her in the books. At least after the first read.
Petter Kristian VikestadQuote Reply
Not so!! She is a willing/active/initiating participant!
EdQuote Reply
Ed,
What??? She is in pain at first. And she is scared shitless of him.
She’s rather somebody suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
There have been many known cases of underaged girls very willingly participating in sex with much older man in the real world – it still doesn’t make it “right”.
Don’t get me wrong though, in Westeros, I’m fine with literally everything.
I just don’t think that anybody should even begin to apply our moral code to those stories.
That’s why I mentioned Dany.
JennyQuote Reply
clemintine,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia
I’ve already posted it once, but people seem to think that they get to redefine words to suit themselves.
GaRQuote Reply
Lord Ned’s Head,
Don’t forget “tall gangly and unable to properly communicate hot – Hodor”.
Gregory KeltonQuote Reply
or “used to be but has since really let himself go hot – King Robert”
Gregory KeltonQuote Reply
Yes! im from rome :)
Ive read the books in both the languages, but i prefer the english version :)
Kings Landing is approdo del re, but Jon Snow is still jon snow (thanks god!)
Have you really studied there? Add me if you want, so we can talk :D
LOL its actually crappy, sorry :D
Posso aggiungerti? :)
Why dont the HBO guys just sell those episode online? IDN, i tunes or something… They are so dumb -_-”
About the dany&drogo romance.. to me, it’s no romantic at all. I can’t understand why people like them as a couple, they are just creepy
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
I agree that, whether or not she gives a compelling performance, the series will be amazing. She certainly has “the look” down.
Sir DayneQuote Reply
I’m not “redefining a word” to suit myself, I’m being colloquial and words do carry more meaning than their cut and dry dictionary definitions. Everyone is derailing from my initial point, focusing on technicalities and distracting from the meat of what I was saying. It doesn’t matter if Sansa has her period or not, or a developed chest or not, or all sorts of other secondary sexual characteristics. What does matter is if she is 13 or 16, she still has the sheltered mind of a child. Any relationship between her and Littlefinger or the Hound is really, really sick and perverted and twisted and I think that any romanticism of such relationships is frankly disgusting. I’m surprised that people here post such thoughts without shame.
Besides which, even if a girl can technically conceive, it doesn’t mean that she out to or is a full grown woman, since often girls get their periods before their hip structures have properly aligned to make birthing children easier. And even if her body matures, it doesn’t mean her mind has.
clemintineQuote Reply
clemintine,
That’s a lot of words to completely ignore my point. All I’m saying is that you accuse people of being pedophiles when that ain’t what they are.
GaRQuote Reply
I’m not ignoring your point. I’m addressing it by saying that your point amongst others’ are completely irrelevant because this is a common tactic to derail a discussion from the true issue at hand. I’m debating morality, not dictionaries.
clemintineQuote Reply