Otaku Assembles for ‘Thrones!
By Fire And Blood on in Recap.

Larry Williams, the You Tube OAW Commander-In-Chief and all-around awesome anime reviewer dude, is one of those people, those rare reviewers, we’ve been looking for. It’s hard to put into words the review he gives, exactly. So if you haven’t seen this vid—20 minutes long—see it now.

(Warning: NSFW due to language. There are obviously Game of Thrones episode one spoilers here.)

You Tube link for those who can’t see the embed.

Passion? Oh yes. Excitement? More than yes! I love this dude. This, my friends, is the kind of buzz HBO wants.

Fire And Blood: There will be a small few of you out there, some small section of erudite A Song of Ice and Fire fans, who dismiss the idea of featuring such a review simply based on the fact that he got so many facts wrong. Or that he mis-guessed on various things, or even because he came into this show with virtually no information save for an abiding respect for Sean Bean and the genre. Which is of course the very idea for putting this up. The show stunned him. I’ve seen his Naruto reviews; this guy is not usually at a loss for words.

But that’s exactly why I love the review. It’s immediate. It’s off the cuff. Larry saw something he loved and he leapt online to talk about it. And “it” was our show.

“And they killed him! They’re ****ing killing children!”

Yeah, that’s pretty much how the rest of us felt when we read the book. Jaime says, “The things I do for love…”

And that’s it. Hooked.

I feel a brief pang of sadness for Larry, because soon, like many of us, he will probably seek out more information that could spoil future surprises. I hope he doesn’t. I hope he (and others like him) are able to re-watch the first episode, get a few of the facts straight (Robert took the throne from the Targaryens, who he blames for the death of Ned’s sister, which is why he hates them), and go into episode 2 ready and willing to partake.

Tell you what, Larry’s right about Snow being a major player. And oddly, I love the fact that he referenced Peter Dinklage without once referring to him as a dwarf.

“And he’s a Gemini too. ****ing right.”

****ing right indeed. Gemini 4 life, son.

Keep on doing what you’re doing, Lar. Weekly reviews? Yes please.


130 Comments

  1. GaR
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 4:45 am | Permalink

    He thinks Jon Arryn was Robert’s father… that explains what he’s on about with “Robert’s Father, the previous king”

    ::edit::

    and he thinks Cersei and Jaime killed King Jon Arryn :S

  2. Deagusser
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 4:51 am | Permalink

    ‘who assumed the throne after his father who has just recently died’ kinda pushed my Asoiaf geek button :D

    but this guy is very funny nonetheless

  3. GaR
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    on Jon Snow: “he has daddy issues an’ all that shit” :D

  4. 1_RedCat
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 4:55 am | Permalink

    Oh I adore this review – It so reflects my feelings when I read the book – I was so like “no …they didnt..they didnt..wait…they actually really did it O.O !?”
    I so hope he will continue reviewing weekly – love the guy : )

  5. Martin
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 4:59 am | Permalink

    Awesome-ness Dudes – such a fantastic review. Forget the details, it is the emotion and passion….. and the hook, it’s got him, and hopefully a lot more besides.

    I’m so envious, to be coming to this series afresh – without knowing what’s just around the corner.

    TBH – that’s the best review I’ve seen / read of the series.

    Really hope he keeps the reviews going – but nothing will compare with that first realisation that dawns with the ‘things I do for love’ scene.

    Best we can do is keep hitting his vid, push the numbers up so he realises that the audience is there for him to carry on.

    I know the vid-ink has been shared out amongst the cast too (Finn Jones, Bradley West etc. had all seen it) – so cool.

  6. Matthias Hinkelmann
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 5:00 am | Permalink

    I’ve seen it 2 days ago. Need to say: i liked it. But honestly, when he talked about JON, I guess he wrote in wikipedia that he is important and will play later on a big role :)

  7. Viktor Norberg
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 5:29 am | Permalink

    btw google trends have updated with data from April 17th and 18th

    http://www.google.com/trends?q=game+of+thrones%2C+camelot%2C+the+borgias&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0

    compared with Camelot and the Borgias :) thats one hell of a spike

  8. marzman
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 5:29 am | Permalink

    no worries, nobody will get picky about him… this guy is awesome and I watched his review maybe 5 or 6 times. The excitement is just contagious. Did anybody let him know that he is featured in the great house of ours?

  9. Ivan Popić
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    I saw this last night – he got so many things wrong but I loved his passion and excitement about the show.
    Not to mention his reactions to the ending (it starts at 8:00 mark), I loved them.

    This video review proves one thing – even if new viewers don’t get all the background and character connections right they can still enjoy and be thrilled by the show – they can pick up “Who’s Who in Westeros” afterwards.

  10. Ashley Blackwoody
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 5:39 am | Permalink

    i’d like to see a review from a non fantasy fan, but this is nice from a non reader pov. interesting how many facts aren’t clear to non readers.

  11. Liesie
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 5:50 am | Permalink

    Loved it! He sounds way more convincing than me when I try to convince my friends that this is the best thing ever (I think I scare them sometimes :p). Maybe I should make them watch this….

  12. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    I saw this yesterday and it’s just impossible to not smile and laugh your way through that review. I don’t really care that he got some things wrong, that just shows that it was a bit hard to follow everything in the first episode, but that it was thrilling nonetheless. I’m going to follow his future videos on GoT and I might even watch some of his other reviews and I’m sure I’ll be sold on a few other series or movies.

    This guy understands what it’s all about; passion.

    marzman,

    I think someone gave him the address to this page in the comments yesterday so he might be watching. Maybe he’ll pop in and say hi.

  13. morbiczer
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Dman, youtube is blocked on office computers here at my work. Is it up on some other videoportal too? Only youtube is unavailable.

  14. Amir Mishali
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    Dude, it fuckin’ delivers!

    That’s the best description I’ve heard of the pilot episode :-)

    Also: Dude, they killed that dude!!!

  15. Molda
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Great review!!! This was pure passion and its great to see someone, who doesn’t read the books, so hooked and thrilled with Game of Thrones!
    Continue watching the series Larry, you will love it as we all do!

  16. Mike Chair
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Fire and Blood, thank you for posting this. It’s fascinating to see a cold viewer’s understanding and reaction.

    This is about how much understanding I had after reading up to where the twins “knocked his ass out the window.” (Loved that.) You know, like thinking people in Westeros sometimes just die of a normal illness.

    “Five year break.” Ha! GRRM would love this guy.

    It’s a really good sign that viewers (like the readers) are not hating Cersei at this point. She’s haughty, conspiratorial, incestuous and murderous, yet he can’t look away. Good.

    He’s already invested in Jon and Tyrion. Check.

    This is a really good sign.

  17. Alwyn Joseph
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    This review made me very happy, despite all the wrong facts, it was fantastic.
    It mirrors the feeling I felt when reading the first book.

    And the second and the third I guess :D

  18. moloch
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Viktor Norberg,

    I think this one is more telling: http://www.google.com/trends?q=Rebecca+Black%2C+Game+of+Thrones&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0

    Game of Thrones is now trending above Rebecca Black

  19. Snark
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Haha, love his enthusiasm.

    “I was growing attached to that kid man!”

    Also, Dinklaaajuh sound like how Peter Dinklage might introduce himself if he actually spoke like Tyrion.

  20. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    i just watched the Ep 4 of the Borgias and i think everybody might be interested in something …. how the episode ended:

    the episode is about Pope Alexander (Irons) marrying off his daughter (Lucrezia) to another noble family, a Giovanni Sfortza, in order to gain political allies and troops for the Papal army so that he can protect his Papacy (which many people want to overthrow). Sound familiar?

    Sforza is much older Lucrezia who i imagine is about 15 but certainly no older than Dany. Sforza is a very gruff and a bit scary sort of fellow but Lucrezia, wanting to help her father and family tries to be optimistic about this arranged marriage hoping to find love or respect. Some stuff happens around the wedding and post wedding party (involving Lucrezia’s mother) that Sforza feels is insulting and degrading to his royal personage. the night of the wedding Lucrezia falls asleep early while the party is still going on. the next day Sforza and Lucrezia travel back to Sforza’s home (some ways away) and that night he forcefully “rapes” her/consummates the marriage without any real consent which the show very much shows more of the act than in GoT’s Dany/Drogo scene including a much longer linger on Lucrezia’s pain and crying.

    so … where is the outrage at that in the press and with the reviewers and the like? ***crickets***

    hmmm, i guess perhaps that the whole kerfuffle about the sex and the rape and all that stuff in GoT might have been motivated by more than just Puritanical up-tightness and maybe it is equally a bias against the genre?

    anyway i thought it was an interesting parallel.

  21. Zima
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    and he was growing attached to that little kid :(

  22. mark g
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    gonna subscribe to this guy, need to see his reaction to…neds arc

  23. Kristen Weaver
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    “Dude this shit has me tripped out right now! I was growing attached to that little kid! Dude!” OMG I love this guy!

  24. David Thomas
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    Another great newbie recap–you can tell she’s a complete asoiaf virgin and her blow by blow recap is awesome in its freshness:

    http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/db_96602/contentdetail.htm;jsessionid=8983634A46601EECF1345B00CC084D9E?contentguid=zWu7hwjn&detailindex=3&pn=0&ps=5

  25. Franny Bee
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    Oh yeah, Geminis are freakin awesome. I’d know ;)

    His screwed up facts made me shout at the monitor, lol. Nerd!! I didnt know you could swear that much on video and still ‘work’ – gotta say I’m inspired.

    Dude they killing kids!!! OMG he’s funny. Hope he does this more often. Love his ‘sincerity and enthusiasm.

  26. Alexander Dubrovsky
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    anyway i thought it was an interesting parallel.

    Yeah, the stories are kinda similar. However, I think that once her brother (the cardinal one, Cesare I think his name is) finds out about the abuse, her new husband will not survive for long. This brother definitely has more than just brotherly feelings towards Lucrezia …

    Anyway, Borgias is an awesome show. It is always great to see Jeremy Irons working with worthy material and not some hack bullshit like Eragon.

  27. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    GaR,
    That’s actually a pretty cool idea! And you would get that, when Robert goes on about how he tried to teach him some sense as a teenager. You’d think a dad who was trying to make his son behave. Esp. since he and Ned are friends, and Cat said Jon Arryn was like a father to him. Lots of times your BFF’s parents are surrogate parents in RL too.

    I am thinking traditional fantasy must not be supporting the bottom, traditionally, for the african american reader. I’m not meaning to make generalizations, but I did notice during FaB’s retweet twitter explosion, that the funniest and most outraged or amazed tweets were coming from people with black avatars. I wonder if there is a tradition where they aren’t reading fantasy, and they see things like LOTR and think “no brothers or darker people in there”, and so they dont read and dont watch?
    In my completely unscientific poll the ratio of non-white non readers twittering was much higher.

  28. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    Alexander Dubrovsky,

    yeah. there is definitely a strong Jamie/Cersei vibe coming from Cesere and Lucrezia. another interesting parallel that i don’t see reviewers harping on and on about. and i agree that the abuse will probably not go unpunished by Cesere.

    i just thought it was interesting that we have another series, on a pay cable channel that has featured child brides sold to gruff leaders for political advantage, a marriage night (or next night) forceful near rape of the young bride and which features incestual overtones yet only one of the series has gotten a ton of flack from people about these topics/themes. and that is the “fantasy” series. like it is okay in “real life” or history but not in a made up place that should be about unicorns and rainbows and Tinkerbell fairies or something? i don’t know … it just doesn’t make a bunch of sense and seems like hypocrisy to me.

  29. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:24 am | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?,
    Not for me, as I am not watching the show you mentioned. ANd maybe a lot of other people arent either.. LOL

  30. dragosh
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    already post it a day ago, but i m glad you guys liked it…love the way he talked about the series

  31. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    “How do you pronounce that name? Cerr Ceirr,” Yeah, we had that discussion too!
    and I like how he has been waiting since August, because of the phrase ‘Winter is Coming’

  32. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    he’s got some energy, and passion, and I just want to tell him please, please do NOT try and read the books – stick only with the series!!!
    Winter is Mother F&cking Coming!
    Always Support The Bottom!

  33. Blackfish Blues
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    *Samuel L. Jackson voice* WINTER IS M’F'N’ COMING, BEEYOTCHES! Can’t get this out of my mind.

    Lol, loved the review. Didn’t know the guy but he’s infectious!

    About Borgias, I think comparisons are very interesting. Unfortunately I haven’t seen the latest ep yet because I plan to watch it with my aunt (yeah, my aunt is almost as cool as Larry Williams). But until now I like it, despite the occasional mispronounciation of Italian names. (It’s PiccoLOmini and MEdici, but kudos for trying!) I’ve tried to keep up a comparison thread on Westeros, but I fear it died out.

  34. Genevosey
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    I never post on this site. I read it everyday since it’s inception. I love the show, read all the books, all the reviews, and everything inbetweeen.

    With that being said, THIS GUY IS THE SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT. Funniest review and most honest I have seen or read yet!

  35. Chris
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Thrilling that the series can excite such zeal in someone who doesn’t know the books.
    I’m actually a tiny bit concerned by all the stuff he got wrong.
    Are all the characters and storylines really that hard to follow? I’m so contaminated by having read all of the books at least twice that I can’t tell.
    Obviously, if you know the books, you’d say “oh that’s Jon Arryn, Ned and Robert’s onetime mentor!” or “oh yeah, Brandon and Rickon went to Kings Landing too and look how that turned out!”
    But if you don’t know the books, I would hope it would be easy enough to pick up. If it’s too hard, I’d worry about real newbies zoning out and tuning out.
    I’m sure someone that blown away will stick around to get up to speed. Let’s hope everyone who’s not QUITE sure what’s going on will stick around too.

  36. dizzy_34
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    I think he summed it up perfectly in the first minute.
    “The show is fucking awsome! … Damn, Dude…”
    HBO should run with that quote. LOL

  37. feyrband
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    really enjoyed his enthusiasm. will definately be checking back to see his reactions to next week’s, or further episodes.

  38. Amir Mishali
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    David Thomas,

    “Yeah….Toto, I don’t think we’re in Middle Earth anymore.”

    This made me chuckle.

  39. McSherrie
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    I love that he is as excited about the series as all of us – if not more so! His confusion is understandable and I’m sure that his facts will straighten out as he continues to watch. This review garnered him many new subscriptions, I am sure, and hopefully he will continue to give us his perspective every week.

    “I was growing attached to that kid!” :D

  40. Bro
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Ha, I couldn’t stop alternating between laughing my ass off and correcting his mistakes. His enthuasiasm is infectious, the reaction to Bran was priceless, bit like mine was when I read that scene in the book. I wonder what his reaction will be like when he realises Bran isn’t actually dead And if he loves Sean Bean so much he’s gonna be well upset at the end of the series! Glad he picked up on the importance of Jon and Tyrion.
    He should really consider doing a weekly or even fortnightly review, it’d be very interesting to follow his reactions to the other episodes.
    Winter is mother-f***ing here!

  41. Ser Duck
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    I love this. It is understandable that he is a little confused. It’s easy to forget how many characters you have absorbed by reading the books. I was naming characters on sight “ooh there’s Hodor! HODOR!”

    Lady Duck was getting a bit anoyed. She was also totaly shocked that they killed of Bran in the 1st episode

  42. Dom
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    The show’s fucking awesome. AWEEEEEE-SOME, dude! Like, maaan!
    They killed him! They fucking killed him!

    Love this guy! :D

  43. James_O
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Ok. I like his enthusiasm but there’s little to no structure to his commentary. Throughout all the “um’s” and “uh’s” and didn’t really feel like it was a “review.” Just some guys opinion on the show. I agree with his opinion and love the show but I wouldn’t tell my friends to watch this for a real “review” on the movie.

  44. Viktor Norberg
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    moloch:
    Viktor Norberg,

    I think this one is more telling: http://www.google.com/trends?q=Rebecca+Black%2C+Game+of+Thrones&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd&sort=0

    Game of Thrones is now trending above Rebecca Black

    lol, who is Rebecca Black?? (seriously, I’ve no idea… should I?) :)

  45. Justin Pace
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    He picked up on the subtext of “winter is coming,” which is more than we can say of some reviewers.

  46. persephone88
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Loved it, loved his enthusiasm, would much rather see an honest viewer’s emotional response like that than some of the high brow critiques we’ve read. His reaction over the Bran ending scene was awesome, so blown away! I truly hope he does review every episode, and the fact that he hasn’t read the books and is learning as he goes gives a great perspective into what a new viewer is picking up. Hope he reviews next week’s too! :)

  47. Dante
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Very nice enthusiasm, but I could only watch a little bit of this since, well, watching someone talk for 20 min is not that interesting to me :) But I definitely like the enthusiasm.

    As for myself, I woke up this morning, and all of the sudden it hit me: There is going to be another episode of Game of Thrones this Sunday!!!?! And then another. And another! After all the hype and buildup to the premiere I had been so focused on Apr 17 that it was a sudden emotional revelation that I would actually get to see more! Mindblowing.

  48. Jessica C.
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    His reaction to The things I do for Love * shove out window* was awesome. I had a very similar reaction when ASOS spoilers Gregor killed the Red Viper

  49. Zark
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Completely off topic, but might be of interest to many people here (concerns good fantasy on HBO): It seems HBO is developing Neil Gaiman’s “American Gods” for possible adaptation.

  50. dizzy_34
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Viktor Norberg,

    She’s the bane of Miley Cyrus. In short the latest Youtube sensation. And someone I never would have thought to be brought up on these boards.

  51. Amir Mishali
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Zark,

    Let me know when they decide to adapt his Sandman :-)

  52. Ramon Carlos
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    I’m definitely gonna subscribe to this guys’ video just to watch him get blown away by the events that happen in the first book.

  53. Eleanor
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    David Thomas,

    Another great newbie recap–you can tell she’s a complete asoiaf virgin and her blow by blow recap is awesome in its freshness:

    http://mobile.nj.com/advnj/db_96602/contentdetail.htm;jsessionid=8983634A46601EECF1345B00CC084D9E?contentguid=zWu7hwjn&detailindex=3&pn=0&ps=5

    Doing it direwolf-style. Love it!

    Also love Blondie’s special talent being gibbering, Benjen saying the celibacy’s a bummer.

  54. Wastrel
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Respectfully: no, this isn’t the kind of buzz HBO needs. “Weird hyper-geeks on the internet liked it, and posted youtube videos about liking it that other weird people on the internet replied half a dozen times in a row” is not mass-market appeal. Everyone KNOWS that weird geeks on the internet are going to like this show.

    What we need are ordinary people giving sober and considered opinions expressing how much they liked it. You know, people’s whose recommendation would make the show more, rather than less, appeal for ordinary people.

    Anybody who CALLS themselves otaku is not representative of the general population…

  55. dizzy_34
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    Alright man lay off the dude. It’s for fun, you know what that is right?
    If you want stories of how my Dad’s co-workers were talking excitedly about the show I’d gladly share them with you, but come on.

  56. jeff mendes
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Not really sure how you’re fantasy fan being so judgmental????
    Wastrel,

  57. fuelpagan
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    If you know of any “ordinary people” who post their opinions on youtube, please let us know.

    Nope, most “ordinary people” just tell their friends about it. Which is why the 1.2 million viewers on Monday night is so telling. People are talking about it to their friends and those friends are checking it out.

  58. ammhist
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Not really sure how you’re fantasy fan being so judgmental????

  59. Dekar
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Despite some errs, he actually had some nice insights, I just hope he doesn’t get too attached to Ned, though

  60. Maxwell James
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    I think you are confusing “what makes a hit show” with “what has mainstream appeal.” Game of Thrones does not need mainstream appeal to be a huge hit; it just needs 5-6 million dedicated viewers. That’s like, half of all World of Warcraft players. If GoT can build enough buzz among uber-nerds alone, it will be just fine.

  61. Mike Chair
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    moloch: Game of Thrones is now trending above Rebecca Black

    … and Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Fox News, and the iPad 2!

    … but not the iPhone 4 … yet. It’s getting close:

    That was fun.

  62. Lex
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Thanks for posting this! I saw this a few days ago, and LOVED it!

    It’s great because it shows us how a 100% newbie to the series can be totally blown away. I loved seeing him try to make sense of the plot, and the Houses, despite getting little details wrong.

    It’s also highly entertaining. The first 30 seconds are gold, and I love the entire 8:00-9:00 section! :)

    I look forward to his future reactions, if he continues reviewing the episodes!

  63. Wastrel
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    jeff mendes:
    Not really sure how you’refantasy fan being so judgmental????
    Wastrel,

    Not sure what judgement you think I’m making. I don’t think calling someone who calls themselves “otaku” a “weird geek on the internet” is a judgement, I think it’s a translation. Particularly as the same description would apply to almost everybody here (certainly including myself). But as I say: we already know that WE like it.

  64. Amir Mishali
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    OT, GoT is currently #13 in reviewers’ rating and #1 in users’ rating on metacritic.

  65. Mike Chair
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    I understand your point. But, here is a guy who didn’t read the books and knew nothing about the story before he watched. What’s important is that this guy wanted to like it and did. That’s not a problem. I hope that anyone tuning into a show, save a handful of critics, wants to like it. It wasn’t the most scripted and articulate of reviews, but it was certainly more honest than Ginia Bellafante’s, who, I think we can all agree, was predisposed to hate it.

    Another important point is one I made earlier, he went in cold and grasped the essentials. He came away knowing the characters and is invested in them. After the “the things I do for love scene” he’s right where he’s supposed to be — fascinated, shocked, outraged and in love with the story.

    Maxwell James: I think you are confusing “what makes a hit show” with “what has mainstream appeal.” Game of Thrones does not need mainstream appeal to be a huge hit

    Absolutely. Vampire stories and other stories about the undead don’t have universal appeal but they still do very well on TV.

  66. ammhist
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Hey… You’re right, we’re all in the same boat here. We love GOT’s, or we wouldn’t be arguing about this crap, not that we really are or that this is crap ;-). But the point behind posting this interview is how excited he was. Does it matter who he is or what he calls himself?

    I guess for me it’s like this. I still talk to my high school D@D buddies… Almost every day… They are now teachers, cops, etc… I read the books after I saw HBO was making this, so basically the first 3 books in the last month. So when I call them and say “Man, you have to watch this shit!” And they respond with ” is there magic? It looks like the Tudors” I have to respond with “You just have to watch and find out”! Well… I can send this review to them and they get it…. without out really getting it… So, he maybe a youtube Geek but don’t doubt that “those” D&D buddies” watched the review and then the show and will now tell all their work peeps in the lunchrooms/break rooms/water coolers…or whatever how great it was…

    Point being, he did a better job than I did in saying how great it was.

  67. Whiteotter
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?,
    we have another series, on a pay cable channel that has featured child brides sold to gruff leaders for political advantage, a marriage night (or next night) forceful near rape of the young bride (…) yet only one of the series has gotten a ton of flack from people about these topics/themes.
    I won’t go into detail, but my anger over the wedding night scene stemmed in large part from its deviating so far from canon, and I question why TPTB felt it was necessary to change that particular scene.

    That said, thanks for posting this link. I don’t care that he may not know how to pronounce everyone’s name correctly, or understand the relationships – I absolutely love the “ZOMG! You guys! ZOMG!” feeling that I think so many of us felt when we read the books. It’s a good reminder that – even while I may have concerns or frustrations like the item mentioned above – at its core, GoT is an amazing, shocking, and stunning story.

  68. Sam DeGree
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:21 am | Permalink
  69. doug
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I’m glad he liked the episode and everything, but that was a drop-dead awful review.

  70. Maxwell James
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Whiteotter,

    That’s interesting – I had the exact opposite reaction. I hate that scene in the book, and damn well nearly stopped reading because of it. Even now, it’s probably my least favorite chapter in the entire series. I found the portrayal in the show to be far more realistic and sympathetic to Dany’s position.

  71. Whiteotter
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Maxwell James,
    Agreed, the different POVs on that scene are really interesting. If nothing else, it offers a great opportunity to discuss gender in the fantasy genre, rape in modern media, and a whole slew of other subjects. I had no trouble suspending disbelief about killer blue-eyed zombies, fossilized dragon eggs or bastards being raised alongside legitimate heirs, so I questioned why *that* scene in particular was just too much of a stretch… but MMV.

    I have to say that I’m really very impressed with how the GoT fandom is willing to discuss controversial and polarizing subjects so respectfully with other fans/newbies. It’s very encouraging and welcoming.

  72. sjwenings
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Whiteotter: I won’t go into detail, but my anger over the wedding night scene stemmed in large part from its deviating so far from canon, and I question why TPTB felt it was necessary to change that particular scene.

    I assume it’s because this is how it ends up (before getting better) in the books anyway. After the wedding night, Dany experices the next several nights with Drogo as rape, more or less. So they just went straight for that, because the way it’s done in the books might be confusing.

  73. Dawid Krzysiak
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Have you maybe links to some other interesting reviews of people previously not familiar with Martin’s Universe? I would appreciate that.

  74. Whiteotter
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James,
    Maxwell, I’m giggling because I was just speaking with the friend who got me into the books, and encouraged me to keep reading when I considered quitting (because, as she reminded me, I said the story felt “too rape-y”). She reminded me that the scene in the canon that nearly made you stop reading is the one that kept me going, which I’d totally forgotten. Apparently I actually called her to say, “Okay, I was surprised and impressed with the respect and equality in that scene, so I’ll stick with the series.” So I guess it’s been a polarizing scene from the get-go.

  75. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Alexander Dubrovsky: Yeah, the stories are kinda similar. However, I think that once her brother (the cardinal one, Cesare I think his name is) finds out about the abuse, her new husband will not survive for long. This brother definitely has more than just brotherly feelings towards Lucrezia …

    Anyway, Borgias is an awesome show. It is always great to see Jeremy Irons working with worthy material and not some hack bullshit like Eragon.

    weird, I’ve been seeing all kinds of parallels in both stories also! And I’m really liking The Borgias’ also.

  76. Hollyoak
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel:
    Respectfully: no, this isn’t the kind of buzz HBO needs. “Weird hyper-geeks on the internet liked it, and posted youtube videos about liking it that other weird people on the internet replied half a dozen times in a row” is not mass-market appeal. Everyone KNOWS that weird geeks on the internet are going to like this show.

    What we need are ordinary people giving sober and considered opinions expressing how much they liked it. You know, people’s whose recommendation would make the show more, rather than less, appeal for ordinary people.

    Anybody who CALLS themselves otaku is not representative of the general population…

    Uh…what?

  77. Maxwell James
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Whiteotter,

    Yeah, I’m hopeful that at some point there will be a more substantive critical dialogue about the ethics and sexual politics of Game of Thrones (and the books) than what’s been offered up so far. Because the books are genuinely interesting and complex in those respects, but far too much of the reaction to the TV show has been flat rejection or unvarnished praise. Which I guess is what polarizing means, at least at first.

  78. ScottsdaleSam
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel: Anybody who CALLS themselves otaku is not representative of the general population…

    Anyone who posts on this website is not representative of the general population, either. :)

  79. More Rice Cooks
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    I hope he does reviews for each episode heh. Not a fan of anime, but I found myself watching his other videos and being entertained as hell, chuckling.

  80. JonSnow'sBastard
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    What’s most important to note in the youtube review, though, is not that the guy self-identifies as an Otaku, or that he digs fantasy in general. He knew nothing of this story and episode one absolutely grabbed him on a visceral level. He saw it and he literally couldn’t move quickly enough to find out as much as he could about Westeros. Apparently he wasn’t alone if the stats on trending and Google searches are accurate. Yeah, eventually he’ll figure out that the Targaryens are not a “tribe,” that John Arryn isn’t actually Robert’s father, nor was he ever king, and that Dany and Drogo are actually on a whole other continent. But he got sucked in by the story, characters, political intrigue, the “oh s**t!!” moments, and above all the acting and production value. Whether the show is fantasy or not seems completely incidental to him. He identifies Boardwalk Empire as another HBO show that he loves, and that show has a wildly different sensibility and appeal than GoT.

    So, yeah, the dude’s a huge geek, like many of us, but that doesn’t seem to be the reason WHY he liked GoT, which I think is the whole point.

  81. Eric
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    ScottsdaleSam,

    HAHA. Zing!

  82. Grujah
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t laugh this hard in some time. He cracked me up, and a great review.

  83. Lord of Fangs
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    This review is awesome, I hope he does one every week!

  84. Grant Gould
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Hah! Thanks for posting this — That was one hell of an entertaining review. Love this guy!!! :)

  85. Victoria Cole
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?,

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?: Alexander Dubrovsky, yeah. there is definitely a strong Jamie/Cersei vibe coming from Cesere and Lucrezia.

    I don’t know what Martin’s inspiration for the characters were. But when I first read AOI&F I just assumed that he based the Lannisters on the Borgias and Cersei and Jamie on Lucrezia and Cesare Borgia.

  86. Two Feathers
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel: Respectfully: no, this isn’t the kind of buzz HBO needs. “Weird hyper-geeks on the internet liked it, and posted youtube videos about liking it that other weird people on the internet replied half a dozen times in a row” is not mass-market appeal. Everyone KNOWS that weird geeks on the internet are going to like this show. What we need are ordinary people giving sober and considered opinions expressing how much they liked it. You know, people’s whose recommendation would make the show more, rather than less, appeal for ordinary people.Anybody who CALLS themselves otaku is not representative of the general population…

    Another Wastrel classic comment. You actually believe you can call call this guy a “weird geek” respectfully. Is this your “sober and considered opinion”? The guy has something called a personality…….look it up.

  87. Tyler
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    I loved this review, even though I cringed at all the mistakses, I understand that for someone who hasn’t read the books it can be a lot to digest and one may jump to incorrect conclusions. He at least understood that Cersei and Jaime were twins, and it was nasty and shocking. I hope he continues to post videos dealing with his reaction to the show; it’s very entertaining!

    I am pleased that the thing he seemed to understand most clearly about the series was the meaning of “Winter is Coming”.

    Winter is, indeed, mother-fucking coming.

  88. uberstellar
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I loved this, I think it’s fascinating to see an excited newbie’s reaction because in some ways I wish I was able to view the series through fresh eyes and with reviews like this I kind of get to live vicariously.
    Bookfans, I am right there with everyone who’s been on the forums and done the re-reads and salivated over every media morsel dropped- but can I say how much it bothers me that there’s a percentage of us that are being really awful to the newbs?
    Every article I read has people dropping spoilers; every review has streams of correcting comments. Episode one ends on the equivalent of page 85 in the book- so really guys? Anyone that had every character relation figured out and back story hints deciphered on their first read through at that point is a much smarter person than I am. We were all confused still, and the viewers are going to still be confused, and that’s okay! In fact, just as it’s a motivator for us to do re-reads, it will serve as a motivator to re-watch (and that means dvd sales!)
    Please everyone stop ruining the fun! Our knowledge doesn’t make us superior, and showing off (even with the best intentions) is isolating a potential fanbase that we need if we want the show to prosper.

  89. dizzy_34
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    uberstellar,

    I support this bottom.
    But douches are going to be douches.

  90. Tyler L. Metcalfe
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Definitely my favorite review so far.

  91. robert
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    I’m surprised it hasn’t been posted on WiC yet, but it looks like D&D are splitting the ASOS into 2 seasons. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118033764?refCatId=14

    Also on GRRM, says that 10 eps on ACOK is not confirmed and that he would like to see them do 12.

  92. Cove
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    This is my first post after a year and a half of lurking, but I make sure this reviewer is not this WiC Phil.
    http://www.metacritic.com/user/Phil_WiC

  93. dizzy_34
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Cove,

    Dude, that’s not right. Winter’s gonna have to go bust some heads Philly style.

  94. Thomas
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    This guy is going to be extremely extremely extremely sad when Ned dies.

  95. Joakim
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Love this guy! And the review is awesome on so many levels. He should definitely do more of these!

  96. obsidian
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Don’t be down on Larry…he’s too much fun. I love his reaction !

    Maybe for reaction from another outsider we can take a look at my sister , who has not read the books..but (like me) has loved the Sopranos, Deadwood, Carnivale ( and recently ,Wallander, the new Sherlock )..you get the picture.

    I wasn’t at all sure we’d be able to enjoy GOT together , not knowing how she’d react to the S&V being so front and centre from the outset. She has no objection to S&V as it serves the story , but is completely turned off when it’s just there to titillate. She had been a bit put off by The Borgias beginning by shoving in some sex and a swordfight before actually getting into the story. In light of this , I did tell her beforehand there was plenty of S&V in GRRM’s books , but that was pretty well all I said . ( Oh , and I told her that HBO had a viewer’s guide , but I don’t think she actually bothered to look at it. )

    So she’s not one to get as effusive as Larry , but she thought the show was very promising . She was a bit unclear as to who everyone was , but says she likes it when a show lets you figure some things out for yourself over time. She loved Peter Dinklage , did not assume the sex was added gratuitously ( and believe me , she seldom just takes my word for anything, but likes to make her own judgements).She liked the production values. She said she’ll be giving it a try for a few weeks , anyway. ..and the next day ,she phoned me back to ask ” So , just tell me one thing..is that nasty little prince actually the brother’s son ? “

    Personally , I think she’ll be with us for the duration.

    And my 3 sons have bets on as to the fate of Bran.

    And I’d love to see an adaptation of American Gods.I wonder who would play my beloved Mr. Nancy ?

  97. the goat
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    That was great, love the enthusiasm, remember the confusion!

    Anyway, I didn’t know where else to post this (I’ll email you, as well):

    Me and my cousin are havin a nice, shady sitdown after a long Saturday in the sun at Coachella, when he notices that I happen to be sitting right behind a lovely lass with platinum white Targaryen hair! Disbelieving, but curious, I turned around. Lo and behold, not only did she have white hair, but the Dany braid as well!

    We had a good chuckle and proceeded to consume our beers and continue our debate over when he should leave Suede for Arcade Fire, when I realized, “Hey, this would be a really cool pic for WiC!” Also, I figured it never would’ve happened if I hadn’t been wearing my House Arryn “As High As Honor” shirt. So here ya go.

    I know she looks a bit blonde in the pic (its obviously a bleach job, and the sun is shining directly on her), but I swear it looked way better than Emilia’s wig (to our admittedly inebriated eyes):
    http://img859.imageshack.us/i/downsized0416011850.jpg/

    So apparently she took the weekend off from reclaiming her throne to go check out the National and PJ Harvey! Nice!

  98. 1_RedCat
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    ScottsdaleSam,

    XDDDD
    oh so true : D

  99. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    so how many emmy nominations?

  100. obsidian
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Victoria Cole,

    you’re right..GRRM has said that the Borgias inspired the Lannisters.

  101. Abyss
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Here is another video review from a newbie. He like GOT very much. Yah! :-D

  102. Dunkeltroll
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Funny shit!
    Here’s a response to it.

    After reading the first 22 pages of the discussion over at televisionwithoutpity, which kind of turned into mostly being about racism and sexism, it’s nice to see these black guys simply getting excited about the show.

  103. Chris
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    You guys should “recruit” him to do these weekly videos for each of your newbie review posts. The written post from “We Do Not Sow” as well as a video from him would be awesome!

  104. Mike Chair
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Michael Tschuertz: so how many emmy nominations?

    That’s a tough one because of the genre. Look at True Blood for a gauge. Won 2 in ’09. But for what? Casting for a Drama Series and Breakthrough Performance (online voting) plus 2 other nominations in ’09 — Main Title Design and Art Direction. Nominated for 5 in ’10 — Drama Series, Casting, Art Direction, Makeup and Sound Editing.

    The Emmys are funny like that. I say look to the Golden Globes, People’s Choice Awards and SAGs for the real love. There, you’ll see nods for Best/Favorite Series, Actors, and Ensemble Cast. People’s choice have fun categories too, like Favorite Sci-Fi/Fantasy Show and Favorite TV Obsession.

    Of course, there’s also the Mr. Skin Award and GoT is a lock for a least a nomination there. :-)

  105. EvilPicnic
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    I just wrote a big long rambling post about how fantastic all this enthusiasm is, and how after a downer and some bitching, it’s just so great to see people just enjoying the show and that WE HAVE A SECOND SEASON!!! :D :D :D

    But I then hit send and…. ‘Database Error’ …

    Lost in the ether, and now I’m too tired to repeat in full. *sigh*

    I know websites don’t run themselves, but this isn’t the first lost post for me, and there has been excessive slow-down recently. If there is any way financially or otherwise we could help out, I personally would donate a little bit to keep the forum-fires lit (with Wildfire?) :p

  106. Abyss
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Dunkeltroll,

    I beat you on this one! ;-)

    Or should I have said: Ich war schneller als du! :-)

  107. Catherine Henry-Greskovic
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    He’s so adorable! Even though he has the facts wrong, I love the enthusiasm! I hope he doesn’t spoil things for himself by reading ahead! I would love to see his reactions to future surprises!

  108. TC
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think it is the type of ‘review” HBO wants to share with potential new viewers who haven’t seen the show, but I do think it is the ideal impression they want the show to have with those new viewers. There is a big difference between the two to me.

    I wouldn’t send it to someone completely unfamiliar with the series as a reference because there are way too many mistakes and pauses while he looks things up and still gets much of it wrong. Plus I’d argue the most entertaining part is the spoiler that no non-reader should be watching prior to seeing the show.

    But it is the perfect picture of what HBO might hope non-reader reaction to be, and very entertaining for me having already seen the episode. It helps prove that even if a non-reader viewer misses things or gets some things completely wrong, they can still find the show incredibly entertaining.

  109. Eleanor
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    the goat,

    Wow, that is definitely Dany’s hair! Love PJ Harvey, by the way.

  110. Nigel Tufnel
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    HBO should make that the official tag line (20:05):

    “Game of Thrones, Winter is mother fuckin’ coming! Whooooo!”

    This guy is great, I hope he reviews every episode, I’ll definitely watch.

  111. Steve
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    OAW MOTHERFUCKER COMMANDER IN CHIEF!

  112. Steven Swanson
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    David Thomas,

    There’s some good stuff in there. Illyrio as “Mr. Exposition” is classic.

    I’m guessing there was some serious DVR action going on there, but even so, they sure picked up a lot quickly (even Joffrey’s suspect parentage, which I’ve seen some others pick up on as well). I’ve noticed that with some of the newbie feedback there are people figuring out key plot points much quicker than I would have expected. And that’s balanced out by the people going “Huh, I don’t get it, what?” This one almost seemed offended by how much they were spelling things out, but hey, it’s just like being back in school and being forced to slow down for the sake of your dummy classmates.

  113. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    I think Lord Wykk should ask Larry to join House Gatewatch as our official video reviewer, and review each week, and that he should turn the comments off on his video, because people are spoiling him like crazy in the comments. I want to keep him in a spoiler free bubble, and let him out to watch the show, review, then back in that damn mother freakin bubble!!

  114. Shagnasty
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    that dude is high as a kite.. he should read the books.. er maybe listen to the books on tape? heh

  115. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Shagnasty,
    no, he should stay away from the books! It’s going to be more fun for him to see it as
    it unfolds on the show version. He was so hyped up about smallville, and how bad they were messing that show up, if he reads the books he is going to get all manic and mad about the stuff that is changed.

  116. Dunkeltroll
    Posted April 20, 2011 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Abyss,

    soll mir beides recht sein – Ehre, wem Ehre gebührt! ;-)

  117. Bandfred
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    Certainly better than the crap review given by the NYT. They could have just shortened it as “I hate fantasy so GoT sux”

  118. clemintine
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 4:45 am | Permalink

    purplejilly: I wonder if there is a tradition where they aren’t reading fantasy, and they see things like LOTR and think “no brothers or darker people in there”, and so they dont read and dont watch?

    Fantasy and science fiction has had many readers of colour all along, just not feeling as welcome and loved back by the genre that they love so much. This essay talks about how fans of colour found a safe space in the Earthsea novels, and how the adaptation was a slap in the face.

    The racial alienation and unsavoury attitudes of certain authors and publishers exploded in Racefail (it’s long messy and all over the internet), which is hopefully going to fuel a revolution in the genre with more authors of colour, more characters of colour, and more characters of colour appearing as their proper races on the cover of books.

    As for SoIaF, I think it’s neutral when it comes to race, neither progressive (like Earthsea) nor regressive (like LotR or its resulting clones). It is almost entirely about white people in a white country, but unlike other gigantic fantasy worlds where there are entire continents of white people, the entire world isn’t white but very diverse. It just happens to only talk about the white people. It doesn’t demonize people of colour like LotR or appropriates from them like WoT, it just isn’t about them.

    As for the show, I think it’s a few steps backwards. The white people are being played by white people. But main characters of colour, the Dorthraki, are an ethnic jumble and patchwork treating people of colour as if they are interchangeable, and so far they are just savages relying on every stereotype to depict them. The designers ranging far and wide for inspirations for the sets/costumes etc. borderlines on Firefly where Asian stuff=cool, Asian people=nah, why bother casting them?

  119. Maxwell James
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    clemintine,

    Well said. I agree the decision to depict the Dothraki as they are in the show was foolish. They were pretty clearly Mongols in the books, just as the northern Westerosi were clearly English – why not just stick with that?

    I cherish a quiet hope that if GoT and other genre shows remain successful, we’ll eventually get adaptations of Octavia Butler’s Xenogenesis and Patternist series. Because those could really blow peoples’ minds.

  120. Amir Mishali
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Maxwell James:
    clemintine,
    Well said. I agree the decision to depict the Dothraki as they are in the show was foolish. They were pretty clearly Mongols in the books, just as the northern Westerosi were clearly English – why not just stick with that?

    Uhm, because where will you find hundreds of Mongolian extras in Malta? :-)

  121. James_O
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    I totally agree with you on this! Love your post!

  122. purplejilly
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    clemintine,
    I agree – I always thought that was so crazy about Firefly, too, asian stuff so cool they only curse in chinese, yet any rebel chinese crewmembers? Nah… Maybe for S.2, D&D will get the summer islandsers invovled more, and we can get some more Wire alumn into GoT!! Idris Elba FTW! Stringer Bell and Omar could be excellent players in the Game :)

  123. Steve the Pirate
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    I love this guy. He’s got a pirate heart. He’ll sort out the plot details, that’s not too important right now.What matters is, he fucking loved and totally got it. Embraced the fuck out of it. I’ll be watching any recaps he does, I hope it’s every week.

  124. clemintine
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James: I cherish a quiet hope that if GoT and other genre shows remain successful, we’ll eventually get adaptations of Octavia Butler’s Xenogenesis and Patternist series. Because those could really blow peoples’ minds.

    So do I. It’s a step above LotR, depicting a complicated non-good-vs-evil fantasy, so I also hope that it will open up markets for adaptations of more fantasy in that direction. I’ve not read her Xenogenesis books, but I loved the Patternist series (except for the last chronological book, the first one she wrote, which was weak compared to the amazing prequels, but that’s off topic). Maybe some day we can see her works in film, sans race-bending. It seems that Hollywood is still doing it, such as with the Airbender movie etc. At the very least, I’d love to see Earthsea done right (besides the racial switchup, it was just terrible in every way).

    Amir Mishali: Uhm, because where will you find hundreds of Mongolian extras in Malta? :-)

    Seeing how there were able to find a whole lot of brown and black extras, I don’t think it would have been much of a challenge to bring Asian extras instead.

    And since they managed to bring in an Australian in to play the Mountain, I don’t think it would be have been particularly difficult to find an actor from Asia who would be awsome as Drogo. It’s a big continent full of many talented leading men. Since there is some leeway in fantasy (they have a Danish man play Jamie, a Turkish/German play Shae etc.) the actor doesn’t need to be exactly Mongolian, but a nod to someone in the general region would have been nice. Heck, in the movie Mongol they two main male leads are a Japanese and Chinese, though the female lead was Mongolian.

    purplejilly: I agree – I always thought that was so crazy about Firefly, too, asian stuff so cool they only curse in chinese, yet any rebel chinese crewmembers?

    There was a good video about that somewhere on the internet, I can’t find it, but essentially it showed all the Asian extras, parallels between them and immigration in colonial States, and mentioned how the only Asian in the entire series with speaking lines is a prostitute. Yeah.

  125. Kanga
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Just watched this now – I love his enthusiasm!! That’s like, exactly the reaction I’m hoping for from new viewers. I don’t mind at all that he got facts wrong, he’ll sort that out. Loved his flabberghasted reaction to the ending. I also liked his refusal to see the Dothraki as savages. Nothing like an emphatic “F**k that!” against racism. haha.
    I’d love it if his future reviews were posted here as well, this was great.

  126. clemintine
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Dunkeltroll: Funny shit!
    Here’s a response to it.

    After reading the first 22 pages of the discussion over at televisionwithoutpity, which kind of turned into mostly being about racism and sexism, it’s nice to see these black guys simply getting excited about the show.

    I’m just reading through the msg boards now, and it’s awsome to see the reactions of the uninitiated. Also how they don’t get the names, but they know the who’s-who with interesting tags (arrow-shooting sister, sister-molesting brother, bitchy kid who hangs out with Jon and Robb etc.) Many seem to think Bran is dead and they want Arya to avenge him! Heh, they’re in for a treat. These videos and forums, their reactions remind me of myself when I started the books. Bran falling was my “oh shit” moment too, the moment I knew these books were special. I don’t think I got all the names straight either right away on the first read, but people are connecting emotionally and that’s what’s important.

  127. Eugene Toussaint
    Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    “that boy got a destiny about him” – fucking classic

  128. Oskar Peregi
    Posted April 22, 2011 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    If you seen the beginning of his new video he said he will do weekly reviews of Game of Thrones and thanked WiC and all the people that seen his video, the guy is a legend :)

  129. MajorPayne
    Posted April 22, 2011 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    PLEASE SEE HIS RESPONSE…URL BELOW

    He will be doing a review for each episode….

    http://www.youtube.com/user/OtakuASSEMBLE#p/a/u/0/n7JmnbhPe80

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