Stannis and Melisandre cast!
By Winter Is Coming on in Casting, News.

While we await word from Martin on the solution to the casting clue, some much bigger casting news has broke. Via James Hibberd of Entertainment Weekly, the castings for Stannis Baratheon and Melisandre have been announced!

Melisandre will be played by Carice van Houten, a Dutch stage and film actress. She’s appeared in the movies Valkyrie and Repo Men. I think you’ll agree she looks just about perfect for Melisandre.

And Stannis will be played by British actor Stephen Dillane, best known to U.S. audiences by playing Thomas Jefferson in HBO’s John Adams.

Carice van Houten and Stephen Dillane

For those who haven’t yet read A Clash of Kings, Stannis Baratheon is the late King Robert’s younger brother who makes a claim for the Iron Throne based on the assertion that Joffrey is not Robert’s son. Melisandre is a mysterious priestess and sorceress from the distant lands of Asshai who aids Stannis in his push for the throne.

Winter Is Coming: Van Houten is a great choice. I remember her being in the discussion as a potential Cersei. She will make a great Melisandre. Not as familiar with Stephen Dillane, but he has the right look and has been cast by HBO before which means he must be a talented actor. Excited to see these two in costume! Now who will be their Davos?


389 Comments

  1. Myles McNutt
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    I highly suggest watching John Adams, Dillane’s previous HBO project – it’s strong on the whole, but Dillane is particularly effective as Thomas Jefferson, and probably deserved the Emmy that went to Tom Wilkinson for a showier (but less substantial) role.

    I don’t think there’s a 1:1 from Jefferson to Stannis, but I do think there was more than enough skill on display to translate into the role. An exciting choice.

  2. BryG
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Funny, I remember watching John Adams and thinking the guy playing Jefferson was way cool.

  3. Phantomwriter05
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure they’re going to be great …

    But I think they were kinda shining us on with “Big names cast” …

    Well I have faith in these people.

  4. Markcb
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    I thought blue hair was a family trait of the Van Houten family… :(

    Well, great choices for both of them, but always pictured Stannis bald, don’t know why. Excited too to see who they cast as Davos.

  5. Brad
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Dominic West for Davos, please.

  6. Jimmy
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    But this Stannis smiles. How can it be?

  7. TheoSqua
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Nice! I like the cast for Melisandre.

    I didn’t think they’d cast someone who is 8 years older than Mark Addy for Stannis though. There’s a chance that Stannis will be played by an actor in his 60s if the series gets deep into the books.

  8. Alexander Dubrovsky
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Great news, great casting.

    On the sidenote, Carice van Houten makes the third cast member from The Black Death movie, after Sean Bean and Emun Elliott.

  9. Emily
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    This is great news! I don’t know Stephen Dillane, but I LOVED Clarise in “Black Book.” So glad we finally have this information.

  10. Belwas's stool
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Not familiar with either but as far as looks Mel is spot on for me.

  11. João Amaral
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane is cool i really like him. he was also on King Arthur (2004).

    i always saw Tricia Helfer as Melisandre so i’m a bit sad but if Van Houten does a good job i’m ok with it.

  12. smilingsoprano
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    STEPHEN DILLANE YES. I saw him in The Master Builder in London and he was absolutely fabulous. Versatile, immensely talented, and I think he’ll do a wonderful job with the sharpness/coldness Stannis should have, imho.

    Also, the lady cast for Melisandre looks perfect.

  13. Reinier
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    OMG, Carice van Houten is amazing!
    I’m from the Netherlands myself and she is the best actress from Holland!

  14. Inkasrain
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane was wonderful in JOHN ADAMS. Jefferson is a much (much) softer character than Stannis, but I’m sure he’ll be excellent.

  15. Jarmel
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Very meh on this until I see them in action.

  16. Ro
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Markcb:
    I thought blue hair was a family trait of the Van Houten family… :(

    Well, great choices for both of them, but always pictured Stannis bald, don’t know why. Excited too to see who they cast as Davos.

    As we all know, it’s impossible to change hairstyles. They are permanent fixtures.

    Think they both sound great. Haven’t seen either act, but as far as looks are concerned, they are close enough to not mess up characterization. And really, that’s all that matters.

  17. Johan Sporre
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I can see it. Will have to watch John Adams.

  18. Steve
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Love them both. HBO stylists will do miracles – as always!

  19. userj
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Aw… mildly disappointed not to get Mark Strong or Christopher Ecclesion but THAT’S FINE. I’d never heard of Michelle Fairly, Iain Glen or Mark Addy before but we all know how that turned out! In Nina Gold we trust!

  20. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Sooo..Dillane was in King Arthur correct?. So who would be the actor from the TV Camelot series be?

  21. Rory P.
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Dillane was great in ’44 inch chest’ I’m sure he can pull off Stannis.

  22. Mirax
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Maybe the connection will be through Davos?

  23. Mag the Mighty
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane does fit the bill on Clive Standen’s comment last week regarding an Arthurian (King Arthur) actor being cast. I guess we still have an actor/actress from “Camelot” who hasn’t been announced yet.

  24. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    So after months and months of discussions here, they choose a short, dark-haired Mel :-) Well, I am familiar with Carice’s acting, and have faith it is good enough to live up to the expectations!

    Less familiar with Stephen Dillane, but I like his looks for Stannis.

    Yoohooo, finally Season 2 starts to get some shape!

  25. Josh K
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Don’t know anyone else has seen Black Book but Carice van Houten was great in that, really good movie and great actress. Can’t wait to see her as the red lady!

    Also since Stephen Dillane was Merlin in King Arthur I’m guessing that is the King Arthur alum that was mentioned.

  26. Rhiannon Jung
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Markcb,

    Because it’s impossible to shave a head, right?

  27. The Rabbit
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Agree. That source was legit.
    Now, we are waiting from someone from Camelot.

  28. Mirax
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    Do you know how tall she is? I’m not one who thinks she MUST be super tall, just curious as most of the pics I’m pulling up on Google are just head shots and I haven’t seen her in anything to really judge.

  29. EB
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Dillane was Merlin in King Arthur, so that takes care of the “in Camelot but not our Camelot” tweet.

  30. fafhrd
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Well, at least we got Gwen.

  31. Mormegil
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe: Sooo..Dillane was in King Arthur correct?. So who would be the actor from the TV Camelot series be?

    I thought we might end up with Dillane as Stannis from those hints, hoping for Sean Pertwee as Davos for the Camelot actor.

  32. shadallion
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    LOL @ people complaining about hair color and lenght. Just amazing. THEY CAN BE ALTERED!

  33. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Nice! I remember Van Houten from earlier discussions as well, and Stephen Dillane looks great.

  34. ANH
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Carice van Houten looks very similar to how I imagined Mel! And I’m sure Stephen Dillane has the acting chops to play Stannis. They’re not the stars we were all rooting for, but I trust that they’ll be great.

  35. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Reinier:
    OMG, Carice van Houten is amazing!
    I’m from the Netherlands myself and she is the best actress from Holland!

    Well, I must say when it comes to Dutch actresses I’d rather pictured Famke Janssen as Melisandre, but acting-wise CVH is definitely her equal!

  36. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure they are great but I was expecting some bigger names…on the positive side, less money in sallaries means more money for battles

  37. Lynn
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Even “tall” is relative on TV. Stand her on a box in a couple of medium shots next to tall guys and she’ll give the impression of height.

    I would also say to anyone who thinks a tiny woman (and I don’t know that van Houten is, btw) can’t play a strong, kickass character — check out Emmy nominee Mirielle Enos in The Killing. She is dwarfed by every man she stands next to, and it only makes her seem stronger.

  38. daveb
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    I’m cool with this. In Nina we trust.

    I do like that both these castings came out of left field. I don’t think Dillane was mentioned ONCE in any sort of Stannis rumors, or threads about ideal Stannis casting. And if he was, kudos to whoever mentioned him!

    I don’t remember Van Houten in the Cersei conversation, but she looks good to me. And, again, I don’t think she was mentioned before in any type of Melisandre casting thread. And as much of a nerd fanboy that I am, I just never could see Christina Hendricks or Tricia Helfer in that role, EVER.

  39. Wolfheart
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Carice Van Houten is a great actress. She was in BLACK DEATH with Sean Bean as the witch, and lets not deny she’s beautiful and fits the bill, just give her red hair. And even though Im not to sold on Stephen as Stannis. **Mostly in looks** I have only seen him act as Merlin in the King Arthur movie with Clive Owen and Keira Knightly.

    I’m a little concerned if he can portray the rigid cold man. Wonder if D&D changed his character a little to be more sympathetic.

  40. Lina
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Ahhh I remember looking up Dillane when we were all in a frenzy over the Camelot/King Arthur clues! But at the time I never saw him as Stannis. Looking at various photos of him though, I can definitely see it. Never watched Thomas Jefferson but I have utmost faith in HBO, so if they’ve cast him in multiple productions, I’m sure he’ll be great.

    I don’t recall seeing Van Houten in anything. But she has the right look. Can’t wait to see her with red hair and her ruby. I wonder if they’ll give Mel red eyes? Does she have an accent? It could actually bring a lot to the role.

  41. Lina
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Oh also, Carice Van Houten was just in a movie with Sean Bean and the guy who played Marillion. Not that she’ll ever share screen time with them, but cool tidbit.

    Welcome to both Stephen and Carice!! :)

  42. Andy Tabelz Tabeling
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Stannis is balding…. with a little hair on the sides of his head but nothing else. just to clarify. read it in dance the other day

  43. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Of course now I’m wondering if my prediction that Davos will be played by an actor more famous than the one playing Stannis will hold true:

    http://winter-is-coming.net/2010/12/season-two-open-casting-thread/#comment-71139

    Granted, the prediction was that he will…unless he won’t…

  44. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Mirax: Do you know how tall she is?

    According to IMDB she’s 5′ 6½” (1.69 m). That’s not in any way small, but trust me, to Dutch standards it is ;-) Btw, Dillane apparently measures 6′ (1.83 m)…

  45. Starkgirl
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Look wise, I think the actress fits Melisandre well enough and should be good in the role. I’m glad they got someone from another country as Melisandre should sound foreign (at least I assume her actress will be distinct since she’s Dutch). I’d love it if anyone who has seen her perform can comment on her accent.

    The actor they got for Stannis does not at all fit my mental image of him, but based on comments here, I’m sure he has the acting chops to pull it off as effectively just like Mark Addy did with Robert.

  46. Roy Mars III
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Terrible casting! They’ve ruined the show with these no-bodies.

  47. Jessica C.
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane!!!!! he never crossed my mind but I adored him in John Adams. Borderline fangirl crush. I am so happy about this news.

  48. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Dillane is fantastic. I’m so happy with his casting! He looks like an uncharismatic average-looking-could-be-handsome-if-he-didn’t-look-constipated, but a hardass, you know?
    NOW I remember where I saw Carice’s name before- in the casting threads! I think I did see her in Repo Men, now that I think of it. I don’t remember much of that movie though.

  49. Quotidian
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    I hope they keep the Black Death connection going, and cast John Lynch as well (Davos?)

  50. Ro
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III:
    Terrible casting! They’ve ruined the show with these no-bodies.

    If not sarcasm, then fail post.

  51. cheesecake
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    I’m not familiar with either of them so can’t really say anything for or against the casting. I’m sure they’ll be fine though. Guess I have another reason to watch John Adams now. :)

  52. Lynn
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    I really hope they don’t give her red eyes. Great for the book, terrible for TV, and it will interfere with the actress’s work. She’ll look like a zombie. Or hung over.

  53. Ro
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Can anyone who has seen Black Death, Repo Men, Valkyrie, Black Book, etc., speak to Van Houten’s accent? Of course, she can always just do a non-British accent but I’m curious to know if she already has one when speaking English.

  54. Jerelyn
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Not familiar with either of them, but I’m pleased enough so far. From a few clips I found on youtube I do think that Dillane can pull off the “cold eyes” that I always envisioned Stannis with. I doubt I’ll have any concerns with his portrayal!

    I suspect that I”ll be impressed by Carice’s ability to act the part, though I did always picture someone whose face was a little more non-western. I suppose we’ll see how the makeup department does. :)

  55. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    paulgude:
    Of course now I’m wondering if my prediction that Davos will be played by an actor more famous than the one playing Stannis will hold true:

    http://winter-is-coming.net/2010/12/season-two-open-casting-thread/#comment-71139

    Granted, the prediction was that he will…unless he won’t…

    Most likely it will be Pertwee or Purefoy from the Camelot cast, and in that case we can probably grant you that prediction…just about ;-)

  56. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Wolfheart,

    Dude, Stephen Dillane is awesome, he can easily play a cold man. That’s what actors do, they act. :)

  57. userj
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    I’m glad Stannis is 6′. he’s supposed to be a large-framed, tall man like Robert, but sort of… skeletal and hollowed out. Interesting, didn’t realize he was also Merlin in the Clive Owen Arthur. Guess all the blue body paint and rags threw me off?

  58. sweetonsigmafilms
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Thrilled with the casting news. Stephen Dillane is one of the stars of Sigma’s most recent film-David Mackenzie’s “Perfect Sense” w/Ewan McGregor and Eva Green. You can see an older and “colder” looking Stephen in the trailer here if you are interested. Regardless, while I was hoping for Rufus Sewell or Jeremy Northam, am hopeful Stephen will do a good job as Stannis. Roll on Season2! Link to Perfect Sense trailer w/Stephen Dillane

  59. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    I really enjoyed Carice van Houten in Black Death I didn’t know that was her until now. She’ll be great as Mel.

  60. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III:
    Terrible casting! They’ve ruined the show with these no-bodies.

    I for one am very happy they they didn’t go with Eva Green…

  61. Clob
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    There are youtube clips of Stephen Dillane’s role in John Adams. I tried watching the show when it first came on and was immediately bored… so yeah, I won’t watch it to see Dillane’s work. :P
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_ZIDJDn9Y

  62. Howland Reed
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Dillane was the best Jefferson ever depicted. He stole the show for me in John Adams! Great Casting!

  63. andrea
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane!!! Great! I absolutely love the actor. I saw him play many characters, all very different, and he was great in all of them. LOVE HIM!

    I don´t know about Van Houten, don´t know her at all. I hope for someone a bit strange, more exotic but if Nina chose her i´m sure it´ll be fine.

  64. JH
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Dillane was amazing in John Adams. Very pleased with this.

  65. Fitten
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    I like him as an actor. But he is almost 10 years OLDER than Mark Addy.

    She looks the part, save for being about 8 years older than I pictured the character.

  66. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Looking at various pics of Van Houten, she has an exotic look to her face. She actually is close to my mind’s eye Melisandre. The pic that WiC has chosen of her is not a flattering one. Google her, and you’ll see she does have unusual eyes and a darkness to her.

  67. andrea
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Markcb: Well, great choices for both of them, but always pictured Stannis bald, don’t know why.

    the picture of Dillane is old… he´s bald, not completely but bald enough…

  68. Hot Pie
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane…now THAT is a bold choice: absolutely loved him as Jefferson in John Adams; not only that, but I do actually see some parallels between his portrayal of Jefferson and GRRM’s depiction of Stannis.

    edit–Let me clarify: both are somewhat awkward characters, especially around others, albeit in very different ways.

  69. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Ro, here is an interview with Van Houten from this past April. At the end she seems to hint of her being cast as Mel when she says she has a project that starts filming in August, but can’t say what it is yet.

  70. Roy Mars III
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Ro,

    You’ve heard of them before. I don’t know anyone who’s heard of these losers. Epic fail by HBO

    Tar Kidho,

    do you want the show to not get a third season?

  71. Jessica C.
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III:
    Ro,

    You’ve heard of them before. I don’t know anyone who’s heard of these losers. Epic fail by HBO

    Tar Kidho,

    do you want the show to not get a third season?

    maybe you should watch more films?

  72. Mormegil
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3333195008/nm0396924

    Pic of CVH from Black Death with redish hair. Seems to like films with Black in the title (Book, Death and Butterflies).

  73. Balerion
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Oh shit!!
    I am am Dutch and in Holland Van Houten is seen as the best Dutch actrice out there. She is a fantastic actrice and we fans, we hit the jackpot with her as Mel.

  74. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate: The pic that WiC has chosen of her is not a flattering one.

    Really? I think she looks smokin’ hot and like a perfect Mel in that pic. She even has the red pendant. ;)

  75. Maxwell James
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Great news. Love both choices. I’ll echo the compliments re: Dillane’s performance in John Adams – he stole the show.

    Plus he gives us another “Soldier, Soldier” alumnus to go with Jerome Flynn. Time to add Robson Green!

  76. Stan the Man
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    This is your Stannis people.

    Tell me he doesnt remind you of Stannis

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Kn0F9QnU6Rg/S7NoY0f5GBI/AAAAAAAAASA/asj-GeTr1Do/s400/Stephen+Dillane.jpg

  77. Mirri Maz
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    i like the look of both of them, Van Houten seems to have the right coloring so if they give her a red wig it won’t look so out of place and in other pictures Dillane seems to be balding and i can see him as Stannis.

  78. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III: do you want the show to not get a third season?

    Camelot didn’t get a second season…

  79. Lex
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Wow!

    I never considered Dillane, but I REALLY liked his portrayal of Thomas Jefferson in John Adams! This is… very good news!

  80. Sansa's Lemoncakes
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Ro,

    She does a pretty good generic British accent with just a hint of Dutch pronunciation.

  81. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Very unflattering shot of her neck, and her skin makeup is weird. It might be a girl-picky thing. :)
    Look at her in this: http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loleqxU37J1qis07wo1_400.jpg

  82. daveb
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Fitten,

    I’m fine with him being a bit older than Addy, as long as he can pull it off. It’s not like he’s a doddering old grandfather or anything. When people were pushing for Patrick Stewart, Sean Connery, and Ian McShane, now THAT was a bit ridiculous.

    To me Dillane, currently, looks of age with Addy’s Robert. And that’s fine. I always pictured Stannis as prematurely aged, slightly. Not like he was decrepit and elderly looking. But as someone in their late 30′s who looked like they might be in their late 40′s. Bald, weathered, bitter. He lived through a years-long siege and was then screwed over by Robert, who gave their ancestral home to Renly.

  83. Stan the Man
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    So we agree now that Stannis can be pulled off with Mr. Dillane? See the man below…That looks like Stannis right there!

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Kn0F9QnU6Rg/S7NoY0f5GBI/AAAAAAAAASA/asj-GeTr1Do/s400/Stephen+Dillane.jpg

  84. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming: Really? I think she looks smokin’ hot and like a perfect Mel in that pic.

    I agree! She’s got a bit of a peculiar face (compared to Hollywood ‘standards’), but in my opinion that’s what makes her really attractive, and it shows well in that picture.

  85. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate: Very unflattering shot of her neck, and her skin makeup is weird. It might be a girl-picky thing. :)

    I have to admit I wasn’t focusing on her neck…

  86. Roy Mars III
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    Eva Green would have brought press to the show. And she’s beautiful. Carice van Houten is only okay looking, and no one know who the hell she is. This was a big mistake by HBO.

  87. Steve Hugh Westenra
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    They both look the part to me! I’ve seen Repo Men (terrible movie, though certainly not the fault of the actors) but I don’t remember her character at all.
    I can’t wait to see what these two will do with the roles. Both characters have an incredible amount of gravitas to them, I think overall there’s going to be a lot of heaviness to those scenes, which makes me hope even more that they include Stannis’s daughter and fool, etc. A lot of those side characters are what bring life (even varying shades of gloomy life, haha) to the Davos chapters.

  88. Mike Kerns
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Dillane was superb in John Adams. Terrific pick.

  89. Dekar
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Looking foward to seeing her naked

  90. Lina
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho: I for one am very happy they they didn’t go with Eva Green…

    ME. TOO. I thought she would have been horrible but was a bit nervous to speak out about it because people have been so sensitive. No offense to her, just not the right role.

    This Van Houten pic is very Melisandre-y to me: http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/cover-caricevanhouten415.jpg
    The cheekbones, the arched eyebrows, the cupid’s bow on her lips. She has great cheekbones, hopefully they can give her some styling that doesn’t keep her hair in front of her face all the time.

    Also, while this white garb isn’t like our red priestess, the hood and the shaded brow is interesting: http://data.whicdn.com/images/8324303/Carice-van-Houten-carice-van-houten-3931260-419-811_large.jpg?1301372262

  91. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    I don’t mean she looks fugly in that pic, or anything.I just like the others better. :P She is stunningly gorgeous and I’m happy with her casting. What a lovely lovely treat today!

  92. faso
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    And how she is afraid to admit anything between 4:00 and 4:06.

  93. Balerion
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    NO worries. Van Houten will nail it. She is Holland´s best actrice. She is the real thing.

  94. João Amaral
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    people like you are probably trash on me but i don’t see what you see on Eva Green. I don’t find her attractive or in any way a wonderful actress.

  95. Oi!
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    C’mon Liam Cunningham for Davos

  96. Maxwell James
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    …on the positive side, less money in salaries means more money for battles.

    And for direwolves, dragons, and massive, beautiful sets. Since the show is already getting tons of good press, I’m very pleased they chose to go for high-quality journeymen actors over big names.

  97. shadallion
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    They both look the part, and by all reports they can act. That’s all I ask for! Great job HBO!

  98. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    You know what? I’d never heard of Eva Green before I started following casting discussions. She was a nobody in the US before Camelot, and frankly she still is, to a large segment of the population. Stephen Dillane is easily as recognizable as she is. I suspect you’re just trolling anyway, so have fun with that.

  99. modehead
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Yes please!!!

    Brad:
    Dominic West for Davos, please.

  100. Steve Hugh Westenra
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Lina: ME. TOO. I thought she would have been horrible but was a bit nervous to speak out about it because people have been so sensitive. No offense to her, just not the right role.

    ME THREE. Haha. I didn’t think she was great as Morgan, and since it’s a vaguely similar role I would have been a little wary. She has been good in other things, but I just didn’t think she would be at her best as Melisandre.

  101. Mirri Maz
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    Eva Greene played a very similar role in Camelot and i don’t see why anyone on the GoT production team or on her team would want her to play it again also she didn’t save that show from being cancelled.

  102. Clob
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III: Ro, You’ve heard of them before. I don’t know anyone who’s heard of these losers. Epic fail by HBOTar Kidho, do you want the show to not get a third season?

    I guess you believe that a show can’t be great and successful without previously known actors. That’s pretty silly. Some of the best performances this past season were from people most had never heard of before. I suppose you were one of the J. Fiennes for Stannis people. I’m certainly going to enjoy Dillane more in the part – I’m sure of that.

  103. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Lina,

    Wow, that pic in the white hood is ripe for a photoshop job. Any WiC commenters good with Photoshop? I’m not on my own laptop with the software, so I can’t do it now. Would be nice to see that pic changed to a red hood, etc.

  104. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Yay, so happy! Congratulations to these fine actors and welcome!!!! :)

  105. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III:
    Tar Kidho,

    Eva Green would have brought press to the show. And she’s beautiful. Carice van Houten is only okay looking, and no one know who the hell she is. This was a big mistake by HBO.

    Do you really think they need big-name actors at this point in the game? The only big names HBO will attract for this project will be characters that aren’t long for Westeros, simply due to the fact that it is smarter to spend the budget on the production than to have a ton of big names eating up the money they could be using on VFX, sets, etc. Time will tell if these choices were a “mistake” on HBO’s part, but I doubt it.

    EDIT: And if you haven’t seen Black Death, I highly recommend you check it out to get an idea of Carice’s possible take on Melisandre. Oh, and it’s a surprisingly good movie that also features Sean Bean.

  106. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    Don’t worry, if she’s really that good an actress as you believe, she’ll be appearing in Season 3. My prediction: she won’t… And 16 million Dutch people (plus 6 million Flemish) possibly means a whole new market to pick up GoT, so trust me, the casting of CVH does bring ‘press’ to the show. Also, many of the critical press will be aware of the quality of CVH…

    Edit: and I fully agree with Pastor_of_Muppets post above.

  107. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James,

    Movies use stars, HBO makes them.

  108. Jessica C.
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    So I had no idea that Carice van Houten was that crazy woman from black death because she looks so lovely in all these pictures everyone is posting up. She looks like two different people.

  109. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    You guys are all getting trolled so hard…

  110. Tom Hilton
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III: Terrible casting! They’ve ruined the show with these no-bodies.

    Actually, she looks like she has quite a body. ;-)

    Seriously, though: yours is a supremely silly comment.

  111. John W
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    GRRM has a new clue for another part:

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/229097.html

  112. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Oi!:
    C’mon Liam Cunningham for Davos

    Still hoping together with you on that one! Which would mean that the one casted from Camelot has to be one of the other characters, but that’s definitely possible…

  113. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Van Houten’s Breasticles :D

  114. Lina
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate,

    Same here, I’m not at my laptop!

    Steve Hugh Westenra,
    I’m glad I’m not the only one! :D

  115. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming:
    You guys are all getting trolled so hard…

    Ah, doesn’t matter, it makes us practicing loving CVH and SD :-)

  116. Hydro
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    SO AWESOME
    As dutchie, I can say that Carice is gonna do awesome and she is a highly respected actress here, she’s really awesome.. Can’t believe she’s gonna be in my favourite tv show… SO AWESOME!!

  117. andrea
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate: she has an exotic look to her face.

    Maybe for caucasians she´s a bit exotic but I don´t see that. Altough she´s certainly Mel from book.
    Now I remember saw her in Black Death and she was great but I still think on someone more exotic: I mean not caucasian.
    Agree with you: Stephen Dillane can play almost every character!!!

  118. Icegaze
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW5J5XF46M

    Classy. I like him as Stannis already. :)

  119. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Not looking through the posts. Don’t want to see any negativity.

    It’s funny; when I first saw that Clive Standen tweet, I did wonder if Dillane wasn’t perhaps playing Stannis, but figured…naah. Shows what I get for second-guessing myself.

  120. Ingemar Svensson
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    It might just be me but doesn’t Carice van Houten look a little bit like Kristen Nedopak…at least in that photo.

  121. Zack
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Van Houten’s role in Black Death has me on board with this casting. :)

    Not familiar whatsoever with Dillane, but he doesn’t look too bad.

  122. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    I put out an SOS on Tumblr to see if anyone can help out, and photoshop that white hood photo of Carice to see how she looks in red.

  123. Lex
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Ingemar Svensson:
    It might just be me but doesn’t Carice van Houten look a little bit like Kristen Nedopak…at least in that photo.

    Not at all.

  124. John W
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    I think someone figured out the clue leads to this actor: Oliver Ford Davies

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0203882/

    As to what part he’s playing it’s up for speculation. Cressen?

  125. dizzy_34
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Good gravy, I get busy at work and … damn. Good choices, I’m glad that they went with Van Houten I liked her suggestion as Cersei way back when.

  126. OhDanyBoy
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    John W,

    Yeah, WE did. Well, not me, but people here. See previous thread.

  127. Lina
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate,

    Do you keep a GOT tumblr? If you do/want to share your link, we can trade; I’m here. :)

  128. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate,

    I tried in photoshop but my skills don’t go further than normal picture processing, so without adding colours to selected areas…

  129. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Lina,

    Yes, I just went ahead and followed you. I’m TumblrOfThrones.

  130. Jeremy Politte
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Love both of these casting choices. Especially Dillane.

  131. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Prediction: Sean Pertwee is Davos. That’s the guy from Camelot who is now on GoT.

  132. Phalange
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Wait, so only one person’s made a Milhouse joke so far?

    Come on people.

  133. Roy Mars III
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    NOW that would be brilliant.

  134. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Phalange,

    No. I still associate the name with Leslie Van Houten, of Charles Manson fame. And people don’t like to talk about her much.

  135. TriLambdas
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Hilarious!

  136. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Excellent choice, and a gut feeling tells me this might be correct, although I still would prefer Henry Ian Cusick from Lost.

  137. Jacut
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    I never even dreamed HBO could get Carice van Houten. She’s my favourite actress and what I consider the best actress in the world, so I’m kind of speechless right now – even though Melisandre is not an interesting character to me. I mean, watch her tremendous performance in Verhoeven’s masterpiece Black Book for example, or even her acting in the much less ambitious/significant Black Death (where she totally outshines Sean Bean by the way) ? So awesome I won’t even comment on Stephen Dillane being Stannis. Plus she’s the big name (at least for me as a cinephile) the show was waiting for.

  138. Mirax
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    I’m so happy they didn’t pick a young 20 something actress to play Mel. I realize that quite a few people read her as 20′s, but I always read her as at least 30′s. Not old (obviously) but a bit more mature/experienced in the ways of the world. With the sort of poise and knowledge that she has, I think it is a lot more believable when not played by a younger female.

  139. The Rabbit
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Could be, could be..

  140. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Okay, you’re saying that like you know something. Don’t tease, Rabbit!

  141. Veelo
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    I’m relieved it wasn’t Alice Henley as Mel. That would free her up to play Ygritte, which I’m totally ok with.

  142. Alexa
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Van Houten also played with Sean Bean in an excellent medieval movie called Black Death.

  143. JW
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Whenever I thought of a person to play Stannis, I always thought that stanley tucci would have made an excellent choice, so much so that when I envision Stannis in my mind, I always see tucci as him.

  144. Petter Kristian Vikestad
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Once guessed Dillane in some other GRRM clue back in the day. Can’t remember what role though.. Anyhow, great choice! Slap a beard on him or something so end all naysaying.

  145. loco_73
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    This is fantastic news…better than I could have hoped for?!?!?! Stephen Dillane is an outstanding actor of great talent and presence! I loved, loved him as Thomas Jefferson in HBO’s mighty miniseries “John Adams”, he and Paul Giamatti where simply amazing! Great catch for “Game Of Thrones”! Carice Van Houten is somewhat lesser known to me, but I have seen her recently in “Black Death”, alongside Sean Bean by the way(what are the odds!) ,and what I have seen I have liked! She should be another solid addition.

    Good job! Oh man I can’t wait to see Stephen Dillane in action!

    PS If you want to see more of this amazing actor, check out a little movie he did a few years ago called “Fugitive Pieces”…another tour-de-force performance!

  146. Miltos Yerolemou
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    excellent news about stephen dillane.
    i have seen him on stage many times and he is a great actor.
    you r gonna luv ‘im, guv

  147. jwsnasa
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III:
    Terrible casting! They’ve ruined the show with these no-bodies.

    Don’t know about ‘terrible’, but I’m not too happy about Mel, either. Wrong body type. Mel should be Christina Hendricks’ curvy.

  148. darrylzero
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    I had kind of wanted an Asian Mel (was fixated on Dichen Lachman), but:

    Mild ADWD spoiler:

    It looks likely that her whiteness and red hair and eyes are all a glamor, which means we have no idea what she “really” looks like.

    I haven’t seen Black Book yet, but I was really excited about when it first came out before I kind of forgot about it, so I’m excited too.

  149. dizzy_34
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Miltos Yerolemou: excellent news about stephen dillane.i have seen him on stage many times and he is a great actor.you r gonna luv ‘im, guv

    We’ll take your word for it! Just so!

  150. loco_73
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Oh yeah now, come to think of it, yes I remember Carice Van Houten from “Repo Men” with Jude Law and Forest Whitaker…

  151. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Tucci is so very American and so lusty and spirited in so many of his roles that I never pictured him as Stannis even though he physically is similar.
    I think Pertwee and Cunningham are both good suggestions for Davos, so I’d be content with either one, if they’re cast.

  152. Don'tJostleTheJoff
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    These new actors better not try to get in my face on set.

  153. JRQ
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    I honestly don’t understand why people clamor for Henry Ian Cusick for Davos, except for the superficial point that he also played a sailing enthusiast in Lost. Davos has 4 adult sons in Clash, does he not? my understanding is that he’s about 1/2 generation older than ned/cat/robert/stannis/Jaime/cersei/tyrion — I would think the character –and actor– should be more of an age with Rodrik/Barristan

  154. Caedes
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Wow
    Nina Gold strikes back. What a fantastic piece of casting!

    LOVED Dillane’s portrayal on John Adams, and the more I think of it, the more I see him as a perfectly lobstery Stannis. Stern, hard, unflinching… just great.

    Haven’t seen CVH in anything before, I knew her back when the Cersei speculation casting was boiling up (ah! the memories! :) ). So I’ll take your word that she’s a great actress. And some of those pictures just scream melisandre to me.

    Again, Nina Gold proves she was the best asset this series has. Fantastic actors, all looking the part to a extent, and no overpayed stars to skyrocket the budget.
    What great news.

    OT: I’m dying here on waiting. Book Depository told me my copy of ADWD was sent back on July 11th. Still not here! Arrrrghhhhhh!

    Some very small questions regarding S2:

    Will NCW leave his beard grow? And Stephen Dillane, in order to mimic Stannis appearance?
    When would some fan post a Photoshop of some of the new cast members “in role”?
    Will we have a Podrick Payne?
    Did Sophie, Maisie and Isaac grew so much over this year to be noticeable in the show? Could Maisie still pass as a boy, or Sophie as a “non-bled-yet” girl”?

  155. The Rabbit
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Nope. But I still believe that we are going to get someone from Camelot, according to those Tweets last week.

  156. ebv
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Dillane’s Thomas Jefferson was one of the (admittedly many) highlights in John Adams. He struck the perfect balance between thoughtful romantic (he was one of Adams’ closest friends) and dour pessimist. He does regal and refined as well as anyone. He’ll do an absolutely fine job as Stannis–perhaps the most humorless and dour of Martin’s characters.

  157. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    I’ve liked Pertwee ever since Dog Soldiers. Not Davos in my head, but I’d definitely take him.

  158. Lina
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets:
    Josh Parker,

    Excellent choice, and a gut feeling tells me this might be correct, although I still would prefer Henry Ian Cusick from Lost.

    Ahhh I never thought of Henry as Davos! He was fantastic as Desmond, and I think he would be great as Davos!

  159. ieiazel
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    @ Paul Gude

    Well, Davos is the real hero in Stannis’ story arc, so I agree that he should be played by someone more famous and more sympathetic.

  160. Brude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    jwsnasa: Don’t know about ‘terrible’, but I’m not too happy about Mel, either.Wrong body type.Mel should be Christina Hendricks’ curvy.

    Van Houten literally has the best breasts I have ever seen. (Seriously, see Black Book if you haven’t.) She’s gonna look great as Mel.

    She had been my first choice for Cersei for season 1, though I wasn’t sure she could do a proper accent. Accent won’t matter for Mel – she’s foreign as far as Westeros goes, anyway.

  161. andrea
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    loco_73: PS If you want to see more of this amazing actor, check out a little movie he did a few years ago called “Fugitive Pieces”…another tour-de-force performance!

    I saw that movie. He´s a writer or musician (I can´t remember) who as a child was in concentration camp or escaped from Poland during Worl War II? Dillane was perfect in that role.

  162. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    That was my clue. I’m next to positive I’m right, but I really wanted David Wilmot after seeing his audition.

    I wonder if this means Wilmot is Jaqen?

  163. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Her figure isn’t “completely wrong” for Melisandre. Some things are up for interpretation. She isn’t flat-chested and straight as a board, and she looks pretty good with not a lot of clothes on- never mind the pic, just google her.

  164. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Harryisplotter on Tumblr made this photoshop of Carice as Melisandre in the red hood:

    http://static.tumblr.com/dn0d9zy/IZllolitz/melisandre_copy.jpg

    I like it. :)

  165. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    ieiazel,

    That was my reasoning as well. We’ll see how it pans out.

    Personally, I’ll be just as happy with a solid actor who will *become* a household name. It was just that if they are going to cast someone a big famous, that’s where I’d put them.

  166. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Nordligvind on tumblr also made a version, a little brighter:

    http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z169/angeluscrudelis/melisandre2.jpg

    Sorry for the triple post!

  167. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate,

    Damnit Steve, I just got flagged on my work computer for trying to view that pic. Comp flashed up that it was a porn site! LOL Hate when that happens!

  168. KG
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Permalink
  169. Nikki
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Amazing news! Stephen is the perfect Stannis!!

  170. Jamie
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Undoubtedly someone else will have already gotten to this, but every “name” actor cast is less money to spend on everything else, eg Direwolves, a certain episode late in S2, and so forth.

    Also: Watch BLACK BOOK, it is a pretty decent movie. Don’t expect that Van Houten will have any significant problems with Melisandre’s more, er, HBO-ish scenes.

  171. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    HandmaidenofDany,

    It’s not a porn site, it’s just a regular blog. Maybe the pic was labeled as NSFW somehow? Sorry!

  172. Oi!
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    The shadow baby birthing scenes will be memorable :´)

  173. Charlie
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate,

    Uhm…that’s anna drijver in the picture not carice :P (she’s also in that movie though)

  174. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate,

    Isn’t that ‘that other’ Dutch actress? What’s her name? Ah, can’t think of it now, but for the Dutch people: they were on ‘De Wereld Draait Door’ together once… I’m quite sure that’s she-who-I-can’t-name-right-now, and not Carice, based on the nose…

  175. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Charlie,

    No, I don’t think so, it’s… Argh, my memory fails me Big Time!!!

  176. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I removed the link already. It was labeled as Carice. Oh well, just google her, you’ll see her in plenty of sexy outfits. :)

  177. John W
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    OhDanyBoy,

    Ooops. Did not notice that earlier thread.

  178. Julian Walker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Bring on Davos, Jojen, Meera, Balon, Asha, the Boltons, Halfhand, and all the rest!!

  179. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    What is this debacle?! Where is Beyonce as Mel, and Carl Weathers for Stannis?!

    The EFFRONTERY of Nina disregarding my casting choices!

  180. BlueCanary
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    JRQ,

    Ned, Catelyn, Jaime, Cersei, Robert, Stannis etc are all in their mid 30s circa-GOT. My guess is that Davos is maybe 8 or so years older – a man in his early 40s with adult sons fighting in war isn’t at all unusual – his next oldest son is a squire, so likely only 12 or so – that means his sons who fight are probably between 16 and 22, and possibly not even that old. Barristan, on the other hand, is about 60. Rodrik Cassel is supposed to be 50ish, IIRC. I don’t think Davos is as old as they are at all, though if they cast him older I don’t see a problem with it. I think, with Davos, they have a pretty wide age range they could go with. However, since they’ve aged up the characters in the show, I don’t think there’s any reason Davos needs to look any older – he just married younger, is all.

  181. Michael Silva
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    I would like him, though I don’t think it will happen

  182. BlueCanary
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    paulgude:
    Josh Parker,

    I’ve liked Pertwee ever since Dog Soldiers. Not Davos in my head, but I’d definitely take him.

    My thoughts exactly.

  183. Lala
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    As long as they can act, I’m happy. :)

  184. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Charlie:
    Steve the Pirate,

    Uhm…that’s anna drijver in the picture not carice:P (she’s also in that movie though)

    Finally, found it! Based on the nose, I think that’s Halina van Reijn in that picture, but I could be wrong of course…

  185. Michael Silva
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    JRQ,

    I’ve never imagined him that old.

  186. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Steve the Pirate,

    No problem, just freaks me out when that happens. I’m always scared to click on links! LOL!

  187. tysnow
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    WOOOOOOOOOT!, Carice was one of my top 5 for a looooong time.
    I think it was THIS PIC that GoT here the role, along with her impressive acting credentials. She is one of the biggest stars in Europe. I actually thought, she like Gong Li were long shops because of their prestige overseas. Obviously HBO is courting more viewers for Europe with this bit of casting.

  188. sjwenings
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Hey, look at us!

    Two major characters cast and no gates!

  189. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    I’m glad to see that these actors will get some recognition over here in the US. Bravo HBO and Nina!

  190. Fire And Blood
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Nice.

    With this out there, how long can it be before someone creates a Sexy Stannis blog?

  191. Charlie
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho: Finally, found it! Based on the nose, I think that’s Halina van Reijn in that picture, but I could be wrong of course…

    I’m pretty sure it’s anna and not halina simply because halina was not in that movie (komt een vrouw bij de dokter). So it could not have been her. But it doesn’t really matter that much anyway I guess ;).

  192. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Might be a repost, but this is a casting tape of Van Houten, not sure what role:

    http://www.tvfanatic.com/videos/carice-van-houten-casting-tape/

  193. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    Truly amazing :-) But I’m glad there seems to be a common believe that these two actors have the acting talents to pull of their roles despite them not being among the fan-favorites. Are we finally growing up as a fan-comunity? ;-)

  194. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    We might be, but don’t look at Facebook, that is anything but grown up! :)

  195. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Charlie,

    Well, not that it matters, but yes, you’re right as I see now in this pic of Anna Drijver :-)

  196. Sansa's Lemoncakes
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings:
    Hey, look at us!

    Two major characters cast and no gates!

    Yes, it’s quite unnerving. Maybe I should start one. Stephen Dillane is not bald enough for Stannis.

  197. John Stephens
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Brude: Van Houten literally has the best breasts I have ever seen.(Seriously, see Black Book if you haven’t.)

    meh

  198. sjwenings
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho: Are we finally growing up as a fan-comunity? ;-)

    Maybe just a little bit… I’m sure we’ll be back with full force sometime in the not too distant future.

  199. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Can someone upload the Van Houten as Melisandre photoshop onto imgur? :)

  200. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Sansa’s Lemoncakes,

    We’ve already heard that and that Carice is too short or her boobs aren’t big enough. Although she has her share of supporters who can’t wait to see her naked. So funny!

  201. Jo
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Clarice looks phenomenal in red!

    What happy casting news. She will be fantastic.

    I wonder what accent they will have her use for Melisandre…?

    edit: fixed typos

  202. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    Ah well, maybe it was false hope anyway as it looks like a thorough discussion of CVH’s breasts could be about to start ;-)

  203. Alan
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Jarmel:
    Very meh on this until I see them in action.

    Why?

  204. tysnow
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    Terrible casting! They’ve ruined the show with these no-bodies

    WoW! thats an ignorant statement. Carice is one of the biggest names in Europe and Hollands top actor, period. She is a high class, highly talented thespian on par with Blanchett, Mirren and the like. She is also gorgeous and has a cold yet sexual presence about her. Rent “Black Book”, get the Dutch with English subtitles (only a wanker would watch a dubbed foreign film). Broaden your mind, there’s more to film than Transformers or Megan Fox.

  205. Jo
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Now, if Carice Van Houten had been cast as Stannis, that would cause for a fan-rage fueled “gate”

    Or not.

    Maybe HotBabe!Stannis would be seen as an improvement over the original.

    I suppose it is not too late for the producers to re-negotiate contracts.

  206. sjwenings
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Pretty darn sure he’s kidding.

  207. John Stephens
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho:
    sjwenings,

    Ah well, maybe it was false hope anyway as it looks like a thorough discussion of CVH’s breasts could be about to start ;-)

    Breast-gate!!!!!

    I cast my lot in the ‘way too small’ camp

  208. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    I haven’t said yet just how psyched I am that we finally have a Stannis. I didn’t think it would take this long; I figured it’d be the first S2 role announced. Now I’ve been imagining him wrong for nearly half of ADwD. No, I’m not gonna go back and re-read those parts. Not yet, anyway.

    Dillane will do quite well. For any nay-sayers in the crowd, remind yourselves all the scorn that was heaped upon Addy, and look how awesome a job he did.

    On another note; why do so many people seem to think Stannis is muscular, and/or huge? He’s all hard angles and sinew, and he’s of average height. When I first suggested that I thought Joseph Fiennes had been cast as Stannis, a few people said he wasn’t “big” enough, or muscular enough. Combine that with all the people who thought James Purefoy would be a good Stannis (great actor, not at all right for the role) and I wonder just how many pictured Stannis totally wrong?

    Other than his age (Stannis is supposed to look older anyway) Dillane is pretty much exactly the man GRRM described.

  209. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    ugh. so close to Famke Janssen but still so far away. i like Van Houten as an actress in everything i’ve seen but she is too short to play Melisandre …. she is only 5’6″ … there is no way that somebody that short can carry off the imposing physical stature that Mel is supposed to have standing equal to Stannis and other knights.

    but i guess she will probably do a good job of playing a different type of Mel as she is a good actress … but there were plenty of good actresses who are 5’10″ and above too that could have just as easily done Mel … many of whom we’ve discussed here (Janssen, Burrows, Helfer). but whatever … they want a midget Mel then so be it.

  210. Karsa
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Not familiar with Carice but think she has the look.
    Stephen Dillane! Not a name I would have picked in a million years but he is one of these guys who acts his ass off but has never had a big “star” role. I think he’l be a great Stannis.

  211. Knurk
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Well well well, as I am racing towards the end of ADWD I thought I’d check this site out before I startednwith the last few chapters. But now I’m so excited about the Van Houten news I can’t get myself to start reading again! This is such great news, I remember how excited I was when all the Cersei casting clues seemed to lead to her, but now she’s finally in the show!

    Finally the show and the books will get some broader recognition here in the Netherlands. Besides an awesome actress she’s also real fun in interviews and with the fans, she is THE actress here. Prepare for some goofy interviews with her.

  212. fuelpagan
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Sansa’s Lemoncakes: Yes, it’s quite unnerving. Maybe I should start one. Stephen Dillane is not bald enough for Stannis.

    I agree! Plus his eyebrow is bothering me.

  213. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    I’m not at all certain. There was no hint of sarcasm. And it’s true that some of us (not just Americans) are quick to call actors “nobodies” because they’re not A-listers in America.

    That said, I’ve heard of Carice Van Houten, never seen anything she’s been in but I’m next to positive she’ll be awsome as Mel.

  214. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    John Stephens,

    Im always in the too small camp… can never be too big. lol.

  215. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    and will people please quit calling the woman “Clarice” … this isn’t Silence of The Lambs … her name is C-A-R-I-C-E people … i may not think she is the best possible choice but at least let’s get her name correct people.

  216. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan,

    LOLOL, I almost spit my coffee at the screen!

  217. Flouride
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Two great actors for the show, for sure.

    Haven’t really imagined Dillane as Stannis, but he has the skills for that role. He was great in John Adams.

    Van Houten is obviously a big name in Europe and can act really well. Personally she doesn’t match my mental image of Melisandre, but I’m not complaining. Better her than Eva Green or some of the other popular choices.

    Now if they could snatch Sean Pertwee for Davos / or some other role, that would be sweet.

    Will drop my hammer of judgement on the casting during/after Season 2, when I’ve actually seen them in their costumer, make-ups etc.

    In Nina Gold we trust.

  218. Steel_Wind
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    So in terms of major casting additions for season #2, it appears to me that we have the following left to unveil:

    1- Edmure
    2- Ygritte
    3- Qorin Halfhand
    4- Jaqen
    5- Pyat Pree

    Yes, I left out the Blackfish, because there isn’t going to BE a Blackfish in this series.

    The balance of any minor roles consit of whomever else they cast for parts in Essos (just who or wht is not all clear at this stage).

    The rest of the new cast are likely to be minor roles without a speaking part. I still hope that they will cast a Podrick Payne, but it may well be that they won’t.

    Sound about right?

  219. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?,
    Lol. They have these incredible inventions now, they’re called high heels. Crazy, right?!

  220. Khal Dorko
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Loved Dillane in John Adams. I could see him easily as the cold hearted Stannis. Don’t know much about Van Houten but she does have the right look for the part! Very excited!

  221. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    I wondered if people would start talking about Dillane’s folicular fortitude.

    Honestly, he’s more balding than some suggestions (Eccleston, Sewell, Purefoy, Isaacs) and it’s not a must that the actor be bald, anyway. It’s not like his baldness is the defining aspect of the character. He’s very stern and cold-looking (or can be when he wants to be) and that’s what matters.

  222. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker: I wonder just how many pictured Stannis totally wrong?

    In fact, the power of reading in my opinion is that it is a very personal experience, and as such I don’t think it is even possible for any reader to ‘picture a character wrong’… Having said that, I can add that Dillane is close to how I saw Stannis, although I pictured him with a slightly more pronounced jawline. Not that that matters at all!

  223. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Here here!

  224. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind,

    You forgot Davos. And Xaro Xhoan Daxos. And Jojen and Meera Reed. And Asha (although we think she is cast, but it’s still not official yet).

    EDIT: Oh, and Roose Bolton too. Assuming he is in the show…

  225. Jeff Cary
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Dissappointing they did not get a well known actor for either of these roles, very dissappointing.

    The actress for Melisandra however looks really great for the part, although the photo here doesn’t remind me as much of Mel as some of the other photos I have seen of this actress

    The actor chosen for Stannis leaves me more disappointed than I was hearing Mark Addy was chosen for Robert. The look of this gentlemen leaves me feeling completely BLAH, and all I can say is MEH… to this choice, as he looks nothing like how I pictured Stannis. Hopefully, this actor can turn me around the way Addy did as he was utterly brilliant as Robert, and got royaly screwed not being nominated for an Emmy.

    Please please give us a big name for Davos and or Mance!

  226. The Harpo Marxist
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?,

    I’m sorry but height has little to do with how imposing and powerful someone is on TV. (See also, DeNiro, Pacino, Stewart, just about every “imposing” actor you can possibly name.) 5’6″ is plenty tall if she has the chops.

    I’m also utterly vexed that people have complained about Dillane’s hair and Carice’s haircoloring. I’m just glad those people aren’t casting agents.

    For the record, Dillane is mostly bald – not that it matters. He’s actually an actor I’ve seen several times onstage and he is utterly amazing. The first time I saw him was in Stoppard’s The Real Thing and he kind of blew my mind. I think we’re all in for a treat.

  227. Mike Chair
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

    I Loved Stephen Dillane as Thomas Jefferson. I’m sure I’ll love him as Stannis.

    I have not had the pleasure of seeing Carice van Houten before. Based upon the picture Winter put up though, she lights my fire.

  228. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?: there is no way that somebody that short can carry off the imposing physical stature that Mel is supposed to have

    I seem to remember we’ve discussed that at length before and most people didn’t agree with you…

    (OT: and now I go fix dinner – once again GoT has made me forget that I was very hungry a few hours ago ;-)

  229. John-Michael Lelievre
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Pumped for this! Stephen Dillane was the best part of the “Goal!” movies. Not familiar with Carice Van Houten but her look is spot on for me.

  230. tysnow
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    You forgot Davos. And Xaro Xhoan Daxos. And Jojen and Meera Reed. And Asha (although we think she is cast, but it’s still not official yet).

    Balon
    Victarion
    Gilly
    Crastor
    Rattleshirt

    Don’t forget them

  231. Flouride
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    tysnow:
    Winter Is Coming,

    Balon
    Victarion
    Gilly
    Crastor
    Rattleshirt

    Don’t forget them

    Aye, plenty of prominent roles still left :)

  232. GaR
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?,

    Height? Again? It’s such a non-issue that my brain actually exploded. Just now.

    In other news, I’m not familiar with either of these actors. Might have to have a watch of Black Death and John Adams at some point.

  233. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Flouride,

    I hope the actor they pick for Crastor is a great character actor because I imagine Crastor as a thoroughly disgusting, dirty, slobbery, scumbag. Can’t wait!

  234. userj
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker: On another note; why do so many people seem to think Stannis is muscular, and/or huge? He’s all hard angles and sinew, and he’s of average height.

    He is described as having a large frame like Robert and being tall, but seeming hollowed out and skeletal despite that (all hard angles and sinew). It’s in a Storm of Swords, when Davos first sees him after getting out of the Dungeons. Don’t have the book on me for the exact quote but I just read it.

    Anyway Dillane has a slimmer build then he ought to but clearly brings acting chops so I’m happy enough.

    Fire And Blood,

    LOL!! If no one else beats me do it perhaps I will jump on that FaBio.

    ETA: ACK! Sorry about the spoiler guys. :/

  235. sjwenings
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    userj: He is described as having a large frame like Robert and being tall, but seeming hollowed out and skeletal despite that (all hard angles and sinew). It’s in a Storm of Swords, when Davos first sees him after getting out of the Dungeons. Don’t have the book on me for the exact quote but I just read it.
    Anyway Dillane has a slimmer build then he ought to but clearly brings acting chops so I’m happy enough.

    And lets not forget who the cast as his brothers Robert and Renly. Bodywise, he very much could be their brother.

  236. DrSwordopolis
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Carice van Houten sounds GREAT for the Red Priestess.

    My only potentital misgiving about Dillane is that he is 8 years older than Mark Addy, but we know that character hasn’t exactly aged gracefully, and perhaps more importantly, he starts aging fast once those shadow babies come about.

  237. persephone88
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    I think the gal playing Mel looks great. I like Dillane very much in John Adams, and I’m sure he’ll do fine as Stannis…but I do wish he had a stronger jaw! Looking forward to seeing the prologue with Cressen and Shireen and Patchface, what a spooky scene that was. If it is nearly as good as the prologue was filmed in GOT, we are in for a treat…

  238. obsidian
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Van Houten was so good in Black Book. Here’s a fan compilation from that movie , showing a good range of emotion and change of hair colour .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoMG5KnOciQ&feature=related

    I’m looking forward to her portrayal.

  239. Josh Parker
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    As an author myself, if someone told me that they imagine a character I had written totally differently than I had described him or her, my first question would be “So what about what I wrote made you think the character looked like that?”

    That said, transcribing the page to the screen isn’t an exact science and there will be roles that are cast differently than described, but I don’t think it’s up to the reader to say “this character looks this way” when the author has described the character’s look and it’s not at all what you picture.

    In fact, I think that’s the biggest reason people grumble over who gets cast. When an actor like Dillane who is physically perfect for Stannis gets cast and people complain, I’m sorry, but they’re wrong.

  240. Ser Hilltwaithe
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a picture of Dillane looking quite Stannis-like :-)

    http://images.broadwayworld.com/columnpic3/2142375mas1.jpg

  241. Iker Gernika
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    I had my favourites for Mel but Carice is going to be my Mel while I read ADWD tonight!!
    I saw Stephen in John Adams and IMHO he was perfect.
    From a marketing point of view we need someone well known in the States… DAvos?? I hope so.
    Good night!

  242. obsidian
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    As for Dillane, here he is in an interview after winning a Bafta ( with his own receding hairline and short beard )

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwTQzU5dB2w&NR=1

    Miltos’ high opinion of his abilities ought to mean something to us..and here’s a gushy slide show ;)..but it shows pics of him in a number of characters with some suitably , cold, stony expressions among them

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UdMc_Zn1EU

  243. Hodor Son of Hodor
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Dillane was FANTASTIC in John Adams.

    Here is a selection of some of his acting in that mini-series. I think he will be a perfect Stannis.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bL1Kpkk0lM

  244. Ms. Stormborn
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    She reminds me of Peg Bundy.

  245. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    That’s kind of amazing. Can anyone translate?

  246. Iker Gernika
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Caedes,

    Mine from casadellibro.com was in just 2 or 3 days. You are spanish, aren´t you?

  247. Mirri Maz
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    What’s with the obsession that people seem to have with big name actors? some of the best actors in season one were practically unknown (Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington, all the other kids and some of the older actors who were not famous) so it really doesn’t matter on a show like this.

  248. andrea
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Iker Gernika: Mine from casadellibro.com was in just 2 or 3 days. You are spanish, aren´t you?

    From Casadellibro in english? I´m waiting mine from Amazon in english because I assumed it was not yet translated. Am I wrong?

  249. Knurk
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    paulgude:
    Superdeluxe,

    That’s kind of amazing. Can anyone translate?

    well it’s a bit long to translate, but I’ll paraphrase what happens. It’s not an audition but an internet commercial for the Dutch ‘oscars’ for online movies:

    she thinks she has an audition for a movie and then the director tells her it’s an internetvideo at which she then totally freaks out because she’s not going to be in some stupid internetvideo, after which she starts acting out other famous youtube videos and finally walking away furiously screaming that she’s bloody Carice van Houten, she’s filming two movies, doesn’t drink cola and does stuff for monkeys (WNF good cause), but she won’t be in a fucking online video.

    (jup, she’s a bit crazy)

  250. Hollyoak
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Mirri Maz:
    What’s with the obsession that people seem to have with big name actors? some of the best actors in season one were practically unknown (Emilia Clarke, Kit Harrington, all the other kids and some of the older actors who were not famous) so it really doesn’t matter on a show like this.

    Totally agree with you.

  251. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Mirri Maz,

    I think it’s a mixed bag. Some people see big names as a draw for viewers who wouldn’t otherwise be interested in the show.

    For my own part, it’s pure speculation. Will they cast a large name to fill the void left by Bean?

  252. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Perfect! Exactly what I wanted.

  253. Joemanji
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Geez there are some silly comments on this thread. Both Houten and Dillane are, first and foremost, proper, genuine great actors! That is what we want, right? Not novelty casting. Whoever called for Famke Janssen (a bland ex-model) should hang their head in shame! Had anyone heard of Conleth Hill (Varys) before the show? His scenes with Aiden Gillen as Littlefinger were a joy because of their acting ability, not their names!

    Also, Carice van Houten IS a big name! She is (reportedly) the best and most famous actress in Holland, and has played opposite Tom Cruise and Jude Law! She is a bigger name than any actor currently (alive) on the show IMO, I was really shocked they got her. Perhaps people don’t know her as well because she hasn’t been in a load of crappy blockbusters. Sigh.

  254. Geoff
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Steve the Pirate you are on the crack, in this pic she looks spot on as MEL…She even has the Ruby pendant…

  255. Caedes
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Iker Gernika,

    Pues sí. Asturiano, pa más señas. :-)

    And now it happens to be right on the shelves on the nearest Fnac near my home… grrrr >:-(

  256. Knurk
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    paulgude,

    in fact she reminds me a bit of Lena Heady (quite spontaneous with a hint of crazy). Remember the Lena Heady wants to sell her grandpa video?

  257. sjwenings
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    I love Carice’s mouth! So sexy.

    None of her roles in the clips i’ve seen are very Melisandre-like, so i can’t really say if she’s right for the part based on that. Luckily with season one, i’ve seen what Nina Gold are capable of, so i’m not worried.

  258. Nick Larter
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Carice van Houten – great choice! she was awesome in Black Book!

  259. Two Feathers
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Love Carice. Very talented lady. Beautiful eyes, she will be great as Mel. I don`t know Stephen Dillane`s work,but his CV is impressive. And Miltos recommends him. Welcome to the crazy world of Game of Thrones guys……………Ray Winstone for Craster…Sean Pertwee for Davos.

  260. Epic the This
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Both seem like EXCELLENT choices to me. I’ve very excited. He was very good in Adams, very unique. The woman seems to have the right kind of chemistry in the age and her demeanor; she looks very beautiful but not necessarily a Hollywood aesthetic.

  261. Roy Mars III
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Too bad the that HBO doesn’t care as much about the ratings in whereeverthehellshe’sfrom, as the U.S. ratings.

  262. Alan
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    These are both fantastic actors. Brilliant, even, by many reports. That’s the single most important thing.

    Secondly, they both look more than close enough to satisfy anyone being rational about it. If they want Stephen Dillane bald (debateable), he can be that. If they want him to look younger, they can do that as well.

    And Carice van Houten is very attractive. She may not be the ridiculous level of Christina Hendricks- curvy, but honestly people, those who complain about this remind a bit too much of teenage boys reading comic books.

    Mark Addy didn’t just NAIL Robert, he added to him, ENHANCED him. And he could only do that through high quality writing and fantastic acting skills. Neither of these two characters are POV characters through the first four books , so there’s the potential for that kind of enhancement here.

  263. Dreamlife
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Never heard of either of these actors, but Van Houten LOOKS like Melisandre, which is always a plus.

    Dillane looks nothing like the Stannis is my mind, but I’m hearing great things about his acting ability, so I’m cool with it.

  264. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    I’m a fan of the casting for both Melisandre and Stannis, regardless of how much hair one of them has, or the height of the other. I mean, seriously? …I just don’t get these kind of complaints.

    Anyway, here’s hoping for James Purefoy as Mance Rayder (let’s face it; not a heavy duty role this season, and the dude would kill it).

    And with all this talk of casting, why hasn’t anyone mentioned Reek / Ramsay Bolton yet? I mean, the dude doesn’t have a whole ton to do in A Clash of Kings other than, you know, sacking Winterfell, but really turns out to be one of the biggest bastards (literally and figuratively) in the entire series as it goes on. Let’s seen Tony Curran play Ramsay.

    And I repeat, I won’t be disappointed if Sean Pertwee lands the role of Davos, but I’m still on the Henry Ian Cusick bandwagon for this guy. Being a fan of Lost, Cusick just has a certain way about him that makes you immediately involved and sympathetic with his character. And if not Davos, they’d damn well better find another role for him somewhere.

    Anyway, cheers for casting news!

  265. Joemanji
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Sean Pertwee is a terrible actor IMO, I’d hate to see him as Davos (a character I really like).

  266. Alan
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    One last point: neither character is a big name, and no, a big name in Holland doesn’t mean that much to HBO. I’m not saying it’s not a wonderful country, but it is 16 million people. Once you cross-reference people who care enough about Ms. Van Houten to watch a show they wouldn’t otherwise watch… it’s not a huge number even if she’s big in neighboring countries.

    The bigger point is: who cares? HBO has succeeded quite well without big names (is Steve Buscemi the biggest name to headline an HBO show? Bill Paxton? Anna Paquin? Larry David? That’s not a murderer’s row, here). The biggest name on the Sopranos before the show started was probably Stevie Van Zandt for non-acting reasons.

    Game of Thrones is doing well and it’s getting a huge PR tailwind because it’s good. The writing’s good, the acting’s good, the production is good. A big(ger) name isn’t going to make or break it, and the type of name that could (a legit movie star) isn’t happening.

    As an example, I live in the Bay Area, and on the local sports radio station, one of the hosts, a former NBA player does unscripted ads for Comcast cable. What’s the current one he’s running? Get Comcast, go home this weekend, watch Game of Thrones on On Demand. Watch five on Saturday, five on Sunday. You won’t regret it.

    This is sports radio.

  267. mcguffin1899
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Stannis and Catelyn once had an affair. No wonder Stannis had no love for Eddard.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w7wQ06jfto&feature=related

  268. Steven Swanson
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III: tysnow, Too bad the that HBO doesn’t care as much about the ratings in whereeverthehellshe’sfrom, as the U.S. ratings.

    Can’t believe your mom hasn’t kicked you off the internet yet, someone needs to set some limits in your house, young man.

  269. Epic the This
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Alan: The writing’s good

    Let’s not get crazy now. The show is not perfect. It’s high quality, but good? Big difference.

  270. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Epic the This,

    Care to share some examples of good writing, and extrapolate on why the writing in Game of Thrones is bad? Or are blanket statements all I can expect out of this request? Not trying to be antagonistic, but I watch quite a bit of good television, and the writing on this show (while not the best) is certainly very good.

  271. GaR
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    Epic the This: Let’s not get crazy now. The show is not perfect. It’s high quality, but good? Big difference.

    Could you maybe rephrase that so that it makes some kind of sense? Is “good” a synonym for “incredibly amazingly brilliant and beyond reproach of any kind” where you come from?

  272. Jordan Healey
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Oliver Ford Davies as Maester Cressen

  273. Kanga
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Back from long time just lurking, hello again!

    I saw Carice van Houten in Black Book a few years ago, and she was fantastic. Looking forward to seeing her as Melisandre, definitely. Stephen Dillane I’m not as familiar with, having only seen him in King Arthur, but he looks like a good choice. How exciting! :)

  274. JC
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Yup, Carice is phenomenal in Black Book (anyone who doubts this casting must see her performance in this immediately before criticizing any further). She’s also very down with the nudity so will fit right into the cast :p. Stephen Dillane is perfect for Stannis. Awesome casting…like there was any question it would be.

    HBO doesn’t need to cast massive names…it’s more important to me that they cast mid-level names that are respected for their acting abilities over simply picking up someone for their name recognition. They get way more bang for their buck that way and they boost their credibility with these actors. Seriously, Carice held her own as the definitive LEAD of Black Book which is the equal of any Hollywood blockbuster film imo for entertainment (directed by Paul Verhoeven who did Basic Instinct, Total Recall, and Robocop) and a great film – the first time I saw it, I actually ended up watching it a second time the next day with my brother and his girlfriend and a third time within the week with my parents. There’s a reason she was cast opposite Tom Cruise in Valkyrie. Like Marion Cotillard, I wouldn’t be surprised if she eventually makes a bigger breakthrough in Hollywood. This is a huge addition to the show.

  275. The Reader
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    I caught the John Adams marathon on HBO on the 4th of July – I gotta say I was impressed with Dillane. VERY good actor and I think he has the chops to carry the roll. He’s a lot handsomer then I pictured, so they are really gonna have to thin him down and harden the edges to really capture Stannis.

    Hopefully we’ll get a Davos casting soon.

  276. Avalanche3319
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    tysnow: Winter Is Coming, BalonVictarionGillyCrastorRattleshirtDon’t forget them

    Don’t forget Reek! rhymes with freak

  277. SugarVampire
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Here is a headshot of Carice that fits Melisandre. Looking at her videos and still shots, she seems to be a combination of Helen Mirren and Kirsten Dunst with a bit of Marlene Dietrich.

    Both casts are very good choice that totally fit the image of Melisandre and Stannis. It is good news that D&D cast less famous actor/actress in those roles. That will reduce the pressure to have them in every episode in the next few seasons. After ACoK, both roles will be greatly reduced.

    After checking out some of Carice’s Black Book pics, she definitely has good enough figure to satisfy the role.

  278. Wastrel
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Reposting from what I said elsewhere:

    “Van Houten: meh. Didn’t like her in Black Death, but then she wasn’t given much to work with (not an awful film, but not exactly rich with nuance and subtlety). Fear she may be OTT as Melisandre, rather than toning her down into believability, but I’m willing to wait and see.

    Dillane: fascinating! His appearance and his role in JA are totally, utterly at odds with how I see Stannis. Yes, TJ was cold and driven, but he made you feel sorry for him – I’m not sure he can convey the shear THREAT that Stannis poses in ACOK. Jefferson is more like Stannis from later books – that sort of “I look beaten but I’ll never surrender” sort of stubborn determination to be a nuisance – but not much like the “I will CRUSH YOU ALL!” Stannis from ACOK. BUT: I thought Dillane was show-stealingly brilliant in John Adams, and it was a brilliant show to steal, against a very fine cast of actors. So I certainly wouldn’t write him off, and even if he doesn’t give us book-Stannis, I’m sure he’ll be fascinating to watch. At least I’m confident he can make a cold character sympathetic, which was one of my worries with the character (as I’m a Stannis fan myself).”

  279. Blackfish Blues
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    250+ comments already???

    I did think at once of Milhouse…

    Unfortunately I’ve never seen either of them act, but I like the pics. I saw the news just before watching S1E6 & S1E7 with friends, and at first I thought “Oh no, Dillane has dark eyes”, but both Baratheon in the show have dark eyes. Dillane’s eyebrows actually remind me of Renly. He does have the family look.

    Henry Ian Cusick is 44. Even without aging make-up, he could very well have several grown-up sons. I like him very much, I don’t really see him as Davos, but age is not an issue at all for me.

    The Blackfish will be out of the series when GRRM says so. Only he can know what his future importance will be. The fact that the Tullys have been treated like sh!t like nobody else by all and sundry (“the Seven Kingdoms AND the Riverlands”, yeah, sure) does not bode well, but I don’t have the hubris to presume to get into GRRM’s mind, though I often try. Even though the Arthurian but non-Camelot actor seems already pegged, I still hold a candle for John Lynch (Merlin, Black Death).

  280. redxavier
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Van Houten – I think she’ll be great. I was a little terrifed of her in Black Death and that’s precisely what I’d like from her with Melisandre!

    Dillane – an interesting choice. From all the things I’ve seen him in over the years he’s always been relatively likeable; his face is just too sympathetic and friendly. To my mind, Stannis isn’t the kind of guy that you can look at and like. He’s hard and stern. And no doubt Stephen will play that well, but he may be undone by his nice guy face! One of the films I remember him most from is Welcome To Sarajevo.

  281. pietel
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,
    Speaking for the flemish, I can tell you we don’t know the actors across the border. We hardly watch any movies or series made in the netherlands and its the same the other way around. If we know Van Houten, its from international features.
    Anyhow I think I will like these actors.

  282. Wastrel
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    I’ll also add: if anyone hasn’t seen John Adams, rest assured that Dillane is brilliant as Jefferson. He manages to be repellently cold, playfully bored by the world, frighteningly passionate (almost psychopathic at points), slightly paranoid, elegantly polite, sombrely tragic, deeply and charmingly shy, overwhelmingly arrogant, childishly enthusiastic, suavely oily, honestly sincere, and somehow wholly sympathetic. It’s an enthralling performance.

  283. will
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Liam Cunningham castes as Davos according to ew

  284. Sherry
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Stephen was great as Merlin, and he will be a fine Stannis. And, the choice for Mel was good, she’s very pretty. Let’s wish them both good luck!!!!!

  285. Mirax
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel: “I will CRUSH YOU ALL!” Stannis from ACOK.

    Hmm, I never got that vibe from Stannis. I never felt he was weak, mind you, just too quick to take offense, and without humor. A hard man who wants his due, and will do what needs to be done, but not driven really, and not powerful even though he holds a position of power.

  286. Mirax
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Permalink
  287. Croccifixio
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    i don’t know if someone already posted this.

    they already cast Davos

    http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/07/19/liam-cunningham-davos/

  288. andrea
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: jup, she’s a bit crazy)

    Are you sure this is really happening in the video?? I mean, if that was actually the casting maybe she´s not that crazy (but playing a character).

    took time to breathe these days or just read-read-read ?

  289. paulgude
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Nice! Thanks for these!

  290. andrea
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel:
    I’ll also add: if anyone hasn’t seen John Adams, rest assured that Dillane is brilliant as Jefferson. He manages to be repellently cold, playfully bored by the world, frighteningly passionate (almost psychopathic at points), slightly paranoid, elegantly polite, sombrely tragic, deeply and charmingly shy, overwhelmingly arrogant, childishly enthusiastic, suavely oily, honestly sincere, and somehow wholly sympathetic. It’s an enthralling performance.

    Yes! perfectly described. He´s all that.

  291. Brian
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    I just saw Stephen Dillane in NYC, playing in the Bridge Project’s production of As You Like It at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. He was GREAT. The character he played, Jaques – who is quite stodgy, grumpy, bitter and cold – was very much like Stannis. But Dillane’s performance was also eloquent and funny. He’s a perfect fit for Stannis. Can’t wait!

  292. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Another tumblr came through, so here’s a third version of Carice as hooded Melisandre. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lolwyq0GvQ1qgbexto1_500.jpg

  293. Justin
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane is an amazing actor. Great casting choice. HBO gets my seal of approval.

  294. Renjick
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    Roy Mars III: Terrible casting! They’ve ruined the show with these no-bodies.

    I hate you and what you represent. Go obsess over a mole or something.

  295. Matheus Ra
    Posted July 19, 2011 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    NOOOO, please switch Davos actor to perform Stannis!! And vice versa.

  296. Josh Atreides
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Wastrel,

    If you want a good idea of Van Houtens acting chops I recommend watching The Black Book. Shes excellent in it. I do agree that with her poorly written role in Black Death she could end up being OTT but this is always the case when someone acts in a language that is not their own. Some actors can do it without a hitch, absolutely perfect. Others…well I look at Penelope Cruz. I think she is fabulous in any film of her native language (re: Almodovar0) but terrible outside of them. My opinion of course. But I think Van Houten is going to turn out okay. But Im an optimist who gets paranoid around negativity so…

    A question for you and I ask you because you seem to have a pretty level head. Why do you think casting directors cast against type and thus deliver us people screaming to the heavens about terrible casting…dont they see its bad publicity? I mean, they must choose these people for a reason…right? Surely they are not deliberately shooting the entire show in the foot?

  297. Josh Atreides
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    If Carice van Houten is okay looking, then so too is Eva Green. Seriously you are either a troll or the most superficial, oblivious person on the planet. Sigh. To each their own I guess. Seriously though, Stephen Dillane is a nobody? Not a big name no, but neither was James Gandolfini, Ian McShane, Jeremy Piven, Kevin McKidd, James Purefoy, Ciaran Hinds etc etc. before HBO casted them. HBO uses ACTORS not celebrities.

  298. Renjick
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Josh Atreides:
    Wastrel,
    Why do you think casting directors cast against type and thus deliver us people screaming to the heavens about terrible casting…dont they see its bad publicity? I mean, they must choose these people for a reason…right?
    Surely they are not deliberately shooting the entire show in the foot?

    That’s pretty strong just because a few vocal fanboys didn’t get their dream casting.

    It’s pretty simple, the creator/castingdirector are privy to screen tests and audition tapes that the general public aren’t. They’ve seen these actors at least try out and perform as these characters. Bad publicity is temporary if they know that the performer is actually fit for the role and delivers. It’s the same bullcrap people pulled for Heath Ledger. Casting against type yet all those fanboy raging were shut down when it became apparent that he was pulling off something amazing.

    Picking the obvious choices (in the case of Sean Bean for Ned) is great, but sometimes going against type yields the same results.

  299. Dupree'sDiamondBlues
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    I saw Carice in “Black Book” and she was great. She is a very attractive redhead, which not every actress can pull off, and she has great chops and a hot body, just like our Mel. It doesn’t matter that she is short either, because Steven Dillane is a midget anyways. A very talented actor, but a small man. Actually, from head shots alone, Cunningham ( Davos) has a perfect look for Stannis, while Dillane looks like the Onion Knight in my head. Talented actors all, and thankfully Stevie doesn’t have any scenes with our intrepid Imp, because they are of a height. Let’s just hope they do well as they will have to carry a large part of season 2. Let’s hope the talented and beautiful Carice can pull of the power, mystery and exotic, erotic menace that is Mel.

  300. Josh Atreides
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    Renjick,

    While I appreciate you educating the raging fanboys, I must assure you that i was being ironic. I am 100% behind these castings and Nina Gold.

    Guess its time for bed as i have trouble conveying sarcasm now! LOL

  301. Fitten
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Spent the day thinking about it and I’m torn:

    Both great actors, but the age thing is bothering me.
    She’s about 8 years older than I imagined the character, and most of these pictures/videos that people are putting up are from 5 years ago. Note: Black Book was 5 years ago

    He’s at least 15 years older than the character. He looked in his 50s in John Adams miniseries and that filmed was between 5-7 years ago.

    For the record: I thought Addy would be good and he was great.

  302. Dupree'sDiamondBlues
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 1:06 am | Permalink

    Also, Dillane definitely has the chops to play Stannis as a veteran of London stage. He was a perfect Jefferson in “John Adams” and has been good in everything he has been in. I take issue, however, with people who get mad about someone’s response to the “look” of an actor. The actors are chosen to portray beloved, well know characters who were described in exhaustive detail by GRRM. If someone doesn’t see Steven as Stannis, it is that person’s prerogative. Personally, I care more if they get the essence of the character, with the exact look being secondary. I do not, however, fault fans who want their Stannis to look as GRRM, in extensive detail, described him. Try not to blast each other for a difference of opinion. Thanks.

  303. JakePT
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    Van Houten is perfect as Melisandre, but I gotta admit Dillane doesn’t fit my mental image of Stannis at all (still Mark Strong), but I can’t deny he has the acting chops, it will be interesting to see how he measures up to the Stannis in my head once in character.

  304. Chris77
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:18 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho: I can add that Dillane is close to how I saw Stannis, although I pictured him with a slightly more pronounced jawline. Not that that matters at all!

    LOL, with all his teethgrinding I always pictured him having a jaw like that alien bountyhunter from the X-Files or Adam Baldwin…

    Otherwise great casting choices so far. I prefer having actors that don’t remind me of other roles they played and am glad they can spend the money on the battles/effects that would otherwise have gone into some A-list stars pockets…

  305. Astalnar
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:39 am | Permalink

    I realy hope they make Stannis bald. That is half his charm.

  306. Ben van Heijningen
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 3:26 am | Permalink

    Belwas’s stool,

    Carice is one of the finest actors in Holland, certainly the most popular, and very talented, smart and beautifull. I’ve allways been a fan but now … exited and proud.

  307. Michael Roxs
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 4:33 am | Permalink

    Carice van Houten might work, considering Melissandre is a foreigner in ASoIaF, but people proclaiming that she is our finest actor in the Netherlands doesn’t really mean anything. She was horribly wooden in the Black Death and well… average overall.

  308. HouseLark
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 5:04 am | Permalink

    Dillane and Cunningham are decent names in the UK. Even so, I don’t really care. HBO shouldn’t spend money on “big names” when it’s the quality of the programme that will determine its success. Besides, throwing millions at a star performer is millions less that can’t be spent on making those battle scenes epic and rendering those direwolves that will add more to the story than a star name could.

    In any case, GoT is making stars of people like Emilia Clarke and Maisie Williams.

  309. Tezeu
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    Oh… I really would have liked to see Christina Hendricks as Melisandre. Oh… well.

  310. Mike
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    Great cast, Loved Dillane in John Addams. And I’m very intressted what Carice will bring. Loved her in Black Book, black death wasn’t a very good though the movie it self wasn’t very good.

    If you want to see her acting see (black again) Black Butterflies, she won an international price for that and it’s an English spoken movie which also stars Rutger Hauwer.

  311. Knurk
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    andrea,

    Yeah as I said it’s not an audition but an act of an audition. I actually finished the book a couple of hours ago!

  312. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 6:47 am | Permalink

    pietel,

    I’m Flemish myself and I know her… But yes, as you say, most Flemish might not. However, it opens the door to interviews on Flemish tv, so as soon as Canvas pick up this series, I’m sure we can expect to see her appear on De Laatste Show or something like that, which would attract more people to give the series a go…

  313. Nearly Headless Ned
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    All the actors cast are top quality performers. Dillane especially. An absolute heavyweight actor.

    How about Rafe Spall as Ramsay Bolton btw?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzXDjCuWsV0

  314. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 7:04 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker: As an author myself, if someone told me that they imagine a character I had written totally differently than I had described him or her, my first question would be “So what about what I wrote made you think the character looked like that?”

    (sorry, didn’t see your reply before)

    I can understand you in that, however, different people’s brains work in different ways. If I read a book, it’s always hard for me to ‘see’ the surroundings and characters as they are described physically. (I have a very visual memory, but somehow the written word does not translate to images in my imagination very well, so while reading the ‘images’ in my head remain mostly quite vague) Hence, for me the personality of a character is allways what makes up my image of them, and it has happened that at some point in a book I realize that I imagine some character’s looks quite different from how they were first described. It has also happened that from the first time I read about a certain character, he or she is so close to someone I know that I am stuck with that friend’s image in my head through the entire book or series. One other point is that in long series the character description is often given in detail only once, and that two books further I have largely forgotten about that and have some other image in my head. So even though I can understand that you, as a writer, would wonder why a reader would ‘see’ a character differently than how you described them, I don’t think it’s that important. If you set a character as detailed as GRRM manages, than I think the most important part is their personality, and not the looks. (except if it is for someone like Brienne or Tyrion, where the physical appearance have very strongly influenced the personalities)

    Josh Parker: When an actor like Dillane who is physically perfect for Stannis gets cast and people complain, I’m sorry, but they’re wrong.

    On that I fully agree!

  315. Kroket
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    Really excited to see Carice cast in this.
    She IS the best actress in Holland nowadays everyone agrees on that…

    If this would only lead to a pick-up from one of our channels i would be really happy. We still have to download to watch here IF series are shown its usually at least a year later. Carice being cast doesnt guarantee that it will be bought Lotte Verbeek was in the borgias and that hasnt been bought yet to my knowledge. cheap Camelot has ofcourse been picked up, makes perfect sense Dutch Tv has no taste…

    Anyhow really happy with them casting Carice. (They better give her a wig though and not leave her hair black which i could see them doing…)

  316. roel
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    When carice van houten speaks English her accent sounds very much like that of shea. Maybe this means that in the series shea is from asshai. It was already mentioned in one episode that she was from abroad.

  317. TheFacelessMan
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Mirax,

    She is fairly tall it seems. Saw her in “Black Death”, good movie btw, and she stood up next to Bean and the other male lead pretty well. She played a pretty (maybe) menacing part in the movie so I’m very excited to see her play Mel. She is exceedingly nice to look at too which I always though was an obvious weapon for Mel as a character.

    Liking Stannis actor as he was GREAT in John Adams.

  318. Fester
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 9:25 am | Permalink

    lol@what Steven Swanson said @Roy Mars III.

    Roy, are you one of those Americans who’s never had a passport before? How laughably childish you sound.

  319. TheFacelessMan
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Nearly Headless Ned,

    All about that. Great choice for Ramsay to really flesh him out as a character. Loved Rafe in Shaun and Hot Fuzz too; total fan boy credit there. I’ve never seen “Shadow Line” but that was a great scene.

  320. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    I agree whole heartedly. I only get a vague sense of what a character looks like even when I read the descriptions. Like I know Stannis is bald in the books, but do I care if he is bald on screen? No. If the actor can convince me he IS Stannis, then that is all I am looking for!

  321. Bro
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Jeez, I disappear off the internet for one night and there’s a shit load of stuff to see when I return. Typical. :L
    I’m not familiar with either actor but if I’ve learnt anything from the crew of GoT, it’s to put all my trust in Nina Gold. I’m not worried about looks, that’s what the makeup department is there for!

  322. Josh Parker
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    I can understand that, and I also understand how that can sometimes influence you to picture a character wrong.

    Another person (on IMDB, I think) said he’d like to see John Noble cast as Stannis because Stannis came off to him as a Denethor-esque character. He was completely wrong on both counts, as Denethor and Stannis have nothing in common, and also because he had been picturing Stannis as an old man!

    What I do, and I understand not everyone can do this easily, is when a character is physically described in a book I stop and take in that description and try to realize a person in my head who fits that description. It’s usually not an actor, but it sometimes is if the description just screams “This is (insert actor here)!”

    Dillane’s angular, stony visage, balding hair and height make him a great choice, even if he is older than Addy (Stannis is supposed to look older than Robert, and in fact many of those I suggested are older than Addy).

  323. Josh Parker
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    And he’s a terrific actor.

  324. jwsnasa
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Nearly Headless Ned:
    How about Rafe Spall as Ramsay Bolton btw?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzXDjCuWsV0

    Wow, give him white eyes and he’s perfect!!!

  325. jwsnasa
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Ben van Heijningen:
    Belwas’s stool,

    Carice is one of the finest actors in Holland, certainly the most popular, and very talented, smartand beautifull. I’ve allways been a fan but now …exited and proud.

    Ugh, How many more times do we have to hear, “finest actors in Holland”?? Holland is twice the size of New Jersey. Look, Carise is a VERY beautiful and very talented by most votes, including mine. But red hair and an accent does not make her match Mel’s description.

    Quote from GRRM:”Melisandre is a beautiful woman, always dressed in red, with a heart-shaped face and red eyes. Great heat emanates from her body. She is full-figured with copper hair”

    FULL FIGURED!!!

  326. Josh Parker
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    jwsnasa,

    Oh, Seven Hells. Another purist who thinks each actor should match the book description 100% with no variance at all.

    Oh, no, she’s thin! This means the character is ruined! How are we supposed to believe a thin woman can make pronouncements over nightfires, birth shadow creatures or passive-aggressively make good men do her bidding? She simply must be full-figured or none of this makes sense!

  327. world_dancer
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Van Houton looks perfect.

    I’m less impressed by Dillane. The photo here makes him look weak and uncertain. Good for brittleness, I suppose, but Stannis is certain of everything, and the picture doesn’t depict the sense of harshness that is Stannis’s trademark. (Also, he has far too much hair, though I suppose that’s easily fixed by shaving him balder). Maybe the actor’s performance will be good, but I’m not enthused by this little bit. And having spent some time reading unspoiled speculation to see what newbies have thought of the show, they’re all anticipating Stannis’s entrance next season. This guy will need to be perfect.

  328. Knurk
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    jwsnasa: Ugh, How many more times do we have to hear, “finest actors in Holland”?? Holland is twice the size of New Jersey. Look, Carise is a VERY beautiful and very talented by most votes, including mine. But red hair and an accent does not make her match Mel’s description.

    well aren’t you the partypooper. Being regarded as the best actress out of 16 million people makes you a quite good actress in my eyes. We dutch fans are just excited as hell that our country now has a little part in this awesome show.

  329. Sansa's Lemoncakes
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    jwsnasa,

    And Mark Addy was too short for Robert, Tyrion and Dany’s eyes aren’t the right colour, Jaime and Cersei don’t look very much alike, and Renly has short hair and a beard. It’s obvious at this point that the producers aren’t looking to follow the books’ physical descriptions down to the smallest detail. Exactly how full-figured Mel is is immaterial to how well her character will translate to screen.

  330. Starkgirl
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    world_dancer,

    I think you’re reading way too much into ONE picture of Dillane. Have you googled any others? I’ve seen pictures of him that make him look much more Stannis-like, and I think some people have linked them in this thread.

  331. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker: I can understand that, and I also understand how that can sometimes influence you to picture a character wrong.

    It is calling this ‘wrong’ that we do not fully agree on I think ;-) For you it is obviously important to picture the physical specifics of a character in detail, whereas for me it just isn’t.

    Maybe you’ve read this allready (I have repeated it a lot…), but for me Stannis was best impersonated by Trevor Eve. Not because he physically looks exactly like I (vaguely) pictured Stannis, but because his entire aura reminds me of the personality that for me defines Stannis. (I deliberately linked to an interview because I think it even shows when he’s not acting)

    Josh Parker: Dillane’s angular, stony visage, balding hair and height make him a great choice

    Just to be clear, I liked him as a choice the second he was announced, since I could easily see much of Stannis’s character in him.

  332. Balerion
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Today at 17.30 hours i was listening to the news on the radio in Holland, and there it was,

    the announcement on the news (!!!!!!!!) that Carice van Houten landed the role of

    Melisandre on HBO’s Clash of Kings.

    Is that cool, or what!

  333. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Balerion: the announcement on the news (!!!!!!!!) that Carice van Houten landed the role of

    Melisandre on HBO’s Clash of Kings.

    Did they actually call it Clash of Kings?

  334. paulgude
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Nearly Headless Ned,

    Wow. That was great. I’d definitely be on board for Rafe Spall as Ramsay.

  335. Lynn Walker
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Your article reads “Stannis Baratheon is the late King Robert’s younger brother “.
    I do believe that Stannis is Roberts OLDER brother and Renly is Roberts YOUNGER brother. You can confirm this by re-reading the books or looking here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_houses_in_A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Stannis_Baratheon.
    You should issue a correction in your page here.

  336. andrea
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    what a relief! had not understood that it was an act until I saw it. And while some madness is necessary for an actor, she seemed too crazy. Congratulations! a dutch in GoT. Nice!
    I see you took the time to enjoy the book as it should be. It´s I who envy you now.

  337. A Bear_A Bear
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Lynn Walker,

    Well, Stannis is older than Renly, but he’s still younger than Robert, so while he’s the elder of his two brothers, he’s still his younger brother. So I think the post is correct as written. :)

  338. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Lynn Walker,

    When the wiki entry says, “The elder of Robert’s brothers”, they mean that he is the elder of Robert’s two brothers, not that he’s older than Robert. He isn’t. If you’ve read the books, then you would see many times, their ages/order are discussed in terms of succession.

  339. darrylzero
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    jwsnasa: Ugh, How many more times do we have to hear, “finest actors in Holland”??Holland is twice the size of New Jersey. Look, Carise is a VERY beautiful and very talented by most votes, including mine.But red hair and an accent does not make her match Mel’s description.

    Quote from GRRM:”Melisandre is a beautiful woman, always dressed in red, with a heart-shaped face and red eyes. Great heat emanates from her body. She is full-figured with copper hair”

    FULL FIGURED!!!

    So, let me get this straight, even though you agree she’s talented, you feel the need to complain that she’s not the best actress of a bigger country, and your primary complaint is that her boobs aren’t big enough?

  340. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    darrylzero,

    LOL, that about sums it up. He’s not the first to say so either.

    Anyhoo, if the guys are going to want big boobs everywhere, then I want more guys hung like Hodor!

    It all sounds so silly!

  341. rob
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    you couldnt be more wrong. Read the books.

    robert-oldest
    stannis-middle
    renly-youngest

    if stannis was older than how in the world could he sit by and watch his “younger” brother take the throne.

    please read the books so you dont come off sounding like a fool
    Lynn Walker,

  342. clemintine
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Jo: Maybe HotBabe!Stannis would be seen as an improvement over the original.

    I suppose it is not too late for the producers to re-negotiate contracts.

    It worked for Battlestar Galactica :p

    What happened to Starbuck? Hot chick.
    What happened to Boomer? Hot chick.
    What happened to the cylons? Hot chicks.

  343. darrylzero
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    HandmaidenofDany,

    Don’t get me wrong, I have my shallow moments. I spent a lot of time just obsessing over the accent and skin color I thought Mel should have, and that photo from Black Death (which I haven’t seen yet) has me worried she might be getting a little old (though I think that’s better than too young, which be stranger I think).

    But, still… wow.

  344. clemintine
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Alan: One last point: neither character is a big name, and no, a big name in Holland doesn’t mean that much to HBO. I’m not saying it’s not a wonderful country, but it is 16 million people. Once you cross-reference people who care enough about Ms. Van Houten to watch a show they wouldn’t otherwise watch… it’s not a huge number even if she’s big in neighboring countries.

    Methinks you need a passport.

  345. Josh Parker
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Sansa’s Lemoncakes,

    Exactly. As long as they don’t make her over 60, blonde and explicitly evil, it doesn’t matter to me that she doesn’t match the exact look as described in the books. It’s one thing to say “GRRM intended her to look this way” and it’s another to say “That’s the way she MUST look in the series.”

    It’s already been shown that GRRM isn’t hung up on the actor in costume matching the character 100%. If it were he would have expressed his disgust a long time ago at how many of the characters are physically different than he wrote them (in some cases almost unrecognizable; see Illyrio).

    I’m much more concerned when the characters seem to be different people than GRRM wrote; Renly being pansified just because he’s gay, the Hound being much nicer (so far, at least), etc. Even those don’t have me ready to write the producers with a c0mplaint because let’s face it; print media and visual media are two different things, and as such we shouldn’t expect a perfectly literal translation. Maybe they’re taking Renly and the Hound in a new direction for a good reason. Maybe they want the contrast between Season One Renly and Season Two Renly to be striking. Maybe they don’t want us to hate the Hound, which we would if he was portrayed exactly as written.

  346. Liesie
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Haven’t read all the comments since I’m late to this party so I don’t know if somebody else said this, but I hope that our Dutch television will consider broadcasting GoT now Carice has been cast :)

  347. userj
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel: Yes, TJ was cold and driven, but he made you feel sorry for him – I’m not sure he can convey the shear THREAT that Stannis poses in ACOK. Jefferson is more like Stannis from later books – that sort of “I look beaten but I’ll never surrender” sort of stubborn determination to be a nuisance – but not much like the “I will CRUSH YOU ALL!” Stannis from ACOK

    I don’t know if we each read a different ACOK or something, but I always felt sorry for Stannis and never saw him to be some kind of giant threat/all-caps vengeance maurader. :) I mean just read the prologue – Cressen definitely pities Stannis. And I think we’re meant to also. He’s stubborn, determined, cold, calculating but not really RAGEFUL, IMO

  348. Hollyoak
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Liesie:
    Haven’t read all the comments since I’m late to this party so I don’t know if somebody else said this, but I hope that our Dutch television will consider broadcasting GoT now Carice has been cast :)

    You don’t have an HBO provider in the Netherlands? Bummer.

  349. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak: You don’t have an HBO provider in the Netherlands? Bummer.

    Also no HBO provider in Belgium, nothing announced yet in France, and neither in Germany, Italy, etc if I’m correct? Basically, if you’re from (mainland) W-Europe, you’re f*cked! I am waiting for the DVD’s to finally pay my debts to HBO, if you know what I mean…

  350. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Permalink
  351. Kanga
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    For those of you who are more familiar with Carice van Houten’s work, are there any films of hers that you would recommend? A performance you thought was her best, for example? I’ve only seen her in Black Book and she was excellent in that, but I’m curious now to see more of her work. In any language, I’ve never been one to turn down a good subtitled movie. Thanks in advance! :)

  352. Danimal
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    TheoSqua,

    i noticed that, but on the other-hand, Stannis ages about 10 years by the time clash is only halfway done due to the… happenings and melisandre.

  353. Fester
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Am glad Nina Gold is casting and not whiners like jwsnasa.

    Also, seeing how a lot of European countries have not picked it up yet, this is a smart move.

    Selling a series to other countries brings in massive cash, why do you think the Friends stars got 1 million an ep in the end?

  354. Epic the This
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel: Didn’t like her in Black Death, but then she wasn’t given much to work with

    I thought she was wonderful in it before the movie gives up on having an interesting plot; in other words the drugged dinner is the end of the movie 30 minutes early, where all the characters show their hands. Before then, she had the allure, the air of mystery and defiance, and power. I think she is so ridiculously perfect for Melisandre she won’t even have to try, so long as the script isn’t garbled.

  355. Talon Lannister
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Dillane is going to be a great Stannis. He’s just a fantastic character actor. Compare Camelot, John Adams, and Spy Game, all different roles and all of them extremely well played, almost to a scene-stealing level. The interplay between Dillane and some guy named Redford in Spy Game is a joy to watch. I think that he will truly flesh out Stannis on screen for us, a guy who, love or hate him, is extraordinarily complex and critical to the storyline. He’s tall and spare, which is how I imagine Stannis, and undoubtedly will be working with a trainer and arms master to get that sinewy look as well as the requisite martial skills. I think of a guy in the class of Chris Cooper or Tom Morse, give them a role, and they will nail it. Who says he can’t carry being a star? I believe he will blow it away and give Dinklage a run for his money for Supporting Actor nominations. Too bad his lines as written by GRMM aren’t as rich as the Imps, but once again I have faith that Nina Gold has done well.

  356. andrea
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    Haunted me since yesterday… and I just realized!
    Carice Van Houten is a lot like Greta Garbo (and Greta would bee perfect por Mel). See for yourself:
    Greta

    Carice

  357. Asa
    Posted July 20, 2011 at 11:50 pm | Permalink

    jwsnasa: Ugh, How many more times do we have to hear, “finest actors in Holland”??Holland is twice the size of New Jersey. Look, Carise is a VERY beautiful and very talented by most votes, including mine.But red hair and an accent does not make her match Mel’s description.

    Quote from GRRM:”Melisandre is a beautiful woman, always dressed in red, with a heart-shaped face and red eyes. Great heat emanates from her body. She is full-figured with copper hair”

    FULL FIGURED!!!

    Yes, and Tyrion isn’t butt ugly in the show either. So what?

  358. Calpico
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    Took the liberty of editing a photo of Carice, and I think she came out quite nice!

    http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn85/Chii___/Carice_Melisandre_02.png

  359. Mike
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 2:33 am | Permalink

    Kanga: For those of you who are more familiar with Carice van Houten’s work, are there any films of hers that you would recommend? A performance you thought was her best, for example? I’ve only seen her in Black Book and she was excellent in that, but I’m curious now to see more of her work. In any language, I’ve never been one to turn down a good subtitled movie. Thanks in advance! :)

    Try Black Butterfies, she won the best actress award at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York for it. It’s an English spoken movie as well.

    It’s based on a true story about an female white poet in South Afrika during the Apartheid.

    Rutger Hauer stars in it as well.

    And as you can see in the trailer she has an affaire with Davos :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-Op9-HZhA

  360. ricciolineri
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 4:03 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    In Italy Games of thrones is due in Autumn on Sky Cinema

  361. bethis
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    Roy Mars III,

    I’d rather see lesser known actors than put up with trying to put a big name actor in a role that just doesn’t fit. Remember the casting disaster of Interview with a Vampire, anyone? Look how well HBO is doing with the True Blood cast which was relatively unknown group.

  362. Hear Me Roar
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    Check it here: Netherlands is a sad exception :/
    http://winter-is-coming.net/features/international-airings/

  363. HouseLark
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    I’m seeing a fair few comments about Stannis being bald while Dillane … has hair! Other than the obvious possibility of shaving Dillane’s head, does it really matter too much if they change a character’s appearance a bit? They didn’t shave Syrio for the TV series and I don’t think many people would complain about how he turned out on screen.

  364. Franny Bee
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    Mel looks PERFECT. I already want to drown her in my margarita!

    Stannis looks old. But hell, they’ll make it work I’m sure. He’ll fit in with the aging-ups. Also makes him look more ‘stern’ than his big bro.

    Davos is almost entirely what I imagined (lol I imagined my dad tbh. He has the kindly eyes and careful manner I always attributed to Davos). When he walks on-screen I may just stand up and cheer.

  365. NewJeffCT
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Wow, odd coincidence that I just rented “Black Death” on Monday and Carice Van Houten is one of the lead actors in the movie. I just rented it because Sean Bean was on the cover and it was about the Middle Ages. No idea who she was at the time.

    I did not detect any sort of Dutch accent, but I honestly was not focused on that, and the movie was not that memorable.

    The movie was okay, but she did a good job in her role – I saw a link of her above and her hair looked a bit reddish in that pic, but it’s really a pale blonde in that movie – almost worthy of Dany. And, she plays a mysterious necromancer in the movie as well, which would mean an easy transition to Melisandre.

  366. mk
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    I thought Stannis was Robert’s older brother???? The original post has him listed as a younger brother

  367. NewJeffCT
    Posted July 21, 2011 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    mk:
    I thought Stannis was Robert’s older brother???? The original post has him listed as a younger brother

    mk – Stannis is Renly’s older brother. Robert was a year to a year & a half older. I’m re-reading A Storm of Swords right now and just passed a chapter where Stannis mentioned how one time when “I was 4 or 5, which would have made Robert 6,” or something to that effect. I think Renly was quite a bit younger than both, however.

  368. Knurk
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Saw an interview with Carice yesterday where she said she only watched the first 2 episodes that were sent to her (after which she concluded she wanted to be in the show), and that she’ll only be in a couple of episodes (I thought she said in the beginning of the season, not sure though )but that here role in season 3 will be bigger. It was also obvious she hadn’t read the books.

  369. Josh Atreides
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    For a lark I picked up the King Arthur Director’s Cut on BRD. Man, I disliked that movie the first time I watched it, but now its up there with the 13th Warrior. It’s just a dumb fun, action adventure that is a little too hamfisted but I just love the camaraderie between the knights. And it has Mads Mikkelsen and Ray Stevenson. The director’s cut features:

    A) More blood, more battles

    B) An Arthur childhood flashback featuring none other than Ser Alliser Thorne….as a nice guy!

    and…..

    C) More Stephen Dillane as Merlin. And after seeing him in this role, nearly unrecognizable I can see how he will become Stannis before our eyes.

    So go Stephen Dillane! Wow us. We know you can.

    Oh and Ioan Gruffud would have been an amazing Renly. No offense Gethin Anthony.

  370. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Knurk, I’m assuming the interview was in Dutch?

    Anyway, yes, Melisandre wouldn’t be in more than a few episodes this season, all in the first half of the season. Still, she makes a pretty big impact in her limited screen time. Looking forward to Carice’s take on her!

  371. Bolton Bastard
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    The last couple of years there has been a lot of hype about Carice van Houten in the Netherlands. Many dutch comments on this board basically attest to that. I never really understood it though

    Sure she’s a good actress and sure she has a particular kind of beauty to her but Dutch people seem to drool everytime she lands any (minor) part. She’s like the fantastic Dutch acting pride who’s is infallible… The Davos in me is like: “I don”t trust her, can’t you see she has put a mesmerizing spell on you guys? She is manipulating you!” She’s got a very particular sort of charm which just doesn’t seem right.

    And that’s why she’s perfect for the part…

  372. loco73
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    Yeah, in “Fugitive Pieces”, Stephen Dillane plays a writer who tries to comes to grips with the fact that as a child he escaped with his life (litrally by running away), while the Nazis took his family away to a concentration camp ( I think it was in Poland). The movie jumps back and forth in time and tells his story and how he copes with survivor guilt, as well as how the children of Holocaust survivors deal with their parents burdens and memories…etc It is a beautiful and moving film, which I think perfectly showcases Stephen Dillane’s excellent acting pedigree and gives people a better idea of how lucky we are to have him on the show!

    I am also glad that we got Carice Van Houten on the cast, inspite of what some comments here say to the contrary.

  373. Knurk
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    jup, it was in Dutch and they only talked about it for 30 seconds and showed a crappy trailer ripped from youtube where you could count the pixels. The other 5 minutes were about her new deal with MEXX, sweaty feet, bad breath, lovemakingscenes and blablabla. Oh the horror of gossip tv we must endure to get a glimpse of GoT!

  374. andrea
    Posted July 23, 2011 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    loco73: I think perfectly showcases Stephen Dillane’s excellent acting pedigree and gives people a better idea of how lucky we are to have him on the show!

    Just my thoughts.

  375. Kanga
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    Mike: Try Black Butterfies, she won the best actress award at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York for it. It’s an English spoken movie as well.

    It’s based on a true story about an female white poet in South Afrika during the Apartheid.

    Rutger Hauer stars in it as well.

    And as you can see in the trailer she has an affaire with Davos :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr-Op9-HZhA

    Thanks so much! I’ll definitely check this out :)

  376. Knurk
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    This time there was a much better interview with Carice, here on Revu. Sadly again in dutch.

    Interesting parts: she was asked to audition for season 1 for another part (didn’t say what role though), but she didn’t have time back then. Now she auditioned for 5 people in a little room (which was pretty scary). She says that she’s signed for multiple seasons (she believed it could go on for 6 years, but my guess is she just blurts out a number).
    She seems to have a good grasp of the characters which she describes as manipulative, and can easily twist the men around her finger (that’s a dutch saying, don’t know if translates to english). Funny when she said this, she added: “via, ehhh, all kind of ways.” Favourite comedies: office, extras, curb.
    She knows it’s HUGE, says there’s a little pressure but she’s really down to earth.

  377. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Knurk, thanks for the report Knurk! The Dutch press seems to do a much better job of snagging interviews with recently cast actors than the US or UK press.

  378. Knurk
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    well, I guess it’s the same with NCW. When there’s an actor from your small country playing a role in the US/UK, it’s news, no matter what show or film, people are interested because some ‘made it.’ American and English actors landing a job in their own country won’t sell any newspapers I guess.

  379. maklenard
    Posted July 26, 2011 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    great pick for stannis!
    but one suggestion…

    OFF WITH HIS HAIR!!

  380. Bob Riley
    Posted August 1, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Stephen Dillane is a great choice. He was good as Thomas Jefferson, but you need to check his turn as Harry Varden( Greatest Game Ever Played), it reminds me of what I would look for in a Stannis(bassed on the charactorization in the books).

  381. Heavenhell
    Posted August 9, 2011 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Hi im from the dutch.

    (can easily twist a men around her finger)
    Means: she can fast get a men on her side en do what she says.

  382. Connor
    Posted September 16, 2011 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Markcb: I thought blue hair was a family trait of the Van Houten family… :(Well, great choices for both of them, but always pictured Stannis bald, don’t know why. Excited too to see who they cast as Davos.

    I always pictured him as having a kind of tonsure hair style :S I don’t know why.

  383. Icebird
    Posted September 24, 2011 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    I just watched Black Book with Carice Van Houten specifically because David & Dan cast her for Mel based on her talent in Black Book.

    She is gorgeous and very talented. I can’t wait to see her in Game of Thrones!

  384. PG85
    Posted April 13, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Carice has also worked with Liam Cunningham and Rutger Hauer on Black Butterflies in 2011

  1. [...] he gave “a marvelously laconic charisma to Thomas Jefferson.” I agree with critic and Winter is Coming commenter Myles McNutt that Dillane probably deserved the Emmy that went to Tom Wilkinson for a [...]

  2. [...] really substantial happened because season 2 casting news have been done prior to the event. The day has been more of a fan encounter than anything else. [...]

  3. [...] it: Stephen Dillane has been cast as Stannis Carice Van Houten has been cast as Melissandre http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/07/…lisandre-cast/ Oliver Ford Davies has been cast as Maester Cressen James Hibberd has been cast as Davos [...]

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