Comic-Con 2011: Full panel video
By Hear Me Roar on in Press.

Thanks to magicinthenumbers (@islawrence), we have a full video of the panel available, in five parts. The first one is embedded below, and the other four follow as links. Now you can enjoy the standing ovations bestowed on the panelists captured in moving pictures – reportedly the first such acclamation at this year’s SDCC.

UPDATED: Kristen Nedopak from ThinkHeroTV promised a video recording of the panel as well; once available, this post will be updated. The ThinkHeroTV video is now available here.

Here follows the rest: Part 2; Part 3; Part 4; Part 5.

Speaking of videos, the 6 minute Season One “the story so far” recap HBO showed at the panel is embedded after the break.



103 Comments

  1. Richard
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 4:35 am | Permalink

    I could be wrong, but I think all but one of the audience questions came from women. They must have been there because of all the illicitness that HBO added…right, Ginia?

  2. John-Michael Lelievre
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 4:42 am | Permalink

    That recap video sums up the season nicely, and is intensely spoiler laden haha.

  3. Erik N.
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 4:48 am | Permalink

    It was fun seeing how the panel reacted to Jason Momoa’s comment on how he loves getting away with raping beautiful women. ;)

  4. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 5:49 am | Permalink

    Thanx a lot, omw to watch it :)

  5. rapscallion
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    The fact that they’re going to split ASOS into more than 1 season strongly suggests that they have no real intention of finishing out the series on film and are really just trying to get to the Red Wedding. Splitting it up means finishing out would require a minimum of 7 seasons, and more likely 8. Getting more than 6 seasons from HBO is a big longshot.

    I expect production values and overall effort to drop considerably after season 3, as they just run it into the ground for the money.

    With GRRM’s in bad health, it’s unlikely the series will ever be finished.

  6. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    1- Someone kill that woman speaking at the background at the start ffs
    2- Peter Dinklage is totally hangovered
    3- Damn no deleted scenes? what about the Clegane’s fight??
    4- Really liked Nikolaj
    5- Wow confirmation ASOS won’t be in 1 season! did he say maybe will be 3 seasons for ASOS&ACOK?? or ASOS 1,5 seasons mmm wonder how that will turn out

  7. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    rapscallion:

    I expect production values and overall effort to drop considerably after season 3, as they just run it into the ground for the money.

    With GRRM’s in bad health, it’s unlikely the series will ever be finished.

    Always nice to get to the weekend on a positive note!! It must awesome to be you man, tx a lot!

  8. Alexander Dubrovsky
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    rapscallion:
    The fact that they’re going to split ASOS into more than 1 season strongly suggests that they have no real intention of finishing out the series on film and are really just trying to get to the Red Wedding. Splitting it up means finishing out would require a minimum of 7 seasons, and more likely 8. Getting more than 6 seasons from HBO is a big longshot.

    I expect production values and overall effort to drop considerably after season 3, as they just run it into the ground for the money.

    With GRRM’s in bad health, it’s unlikely the series will ever be finished.

    Actually, GRRM is immortal. Parris is a red priestess and she will keep him alive as long as necessary.

  9. rapscallion
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    I didn’t make the world a dark wasteland of failure, frustration, and meaningless death. I just calls ‘em like a sees ‘em.

    Have a good weekend:)!!!

  10. Ollie
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    I hope in the dvd extras we get to see the original pilot just to see how different the other actors would be.
    Jason’s comment was so wrong and yet I couldn’t stop laughing lol
    I like there idea for season 3, they dont seem optimistic that it will go into book 4 but I am, you can’t leave the series with the ending of book three. HBO think about stopping it but this series will only grow in popularity and they want to invest in another season then another until all the books are done.
    book 3 spoiler the red wedding is going to talked about so much on tv, such a epic moment in the book makes me love (Book 5 spoiler) the frey pie and hope they all get suck sticky ends.

  11. Dolorous Dave
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    rapscallion,

    Wow, and to think that I’M the one named after Dolorous Edd….. :)

  12. Bielle
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    rapscallion:
    The fact that they’re going to split ASOS into more than 1 season strongly suggests that they have no real intention of finishing out the series on film and are really just trying to get to the Red Wedding. Splitting it up means finishing out would require a minimum of 7 seasons, and more likely 8. Getting more than 6 seasons from HBO is a big longshot.

    I expect production values and overall effort to drop considerably after season 3, as they just run it into the ground for the money.

    With GRRM’s in bad health, it’s unlikely the series will ever be finished.

    Well, THAT’S one happy thought! ¬¬

  13. Dreamlife
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 7:41 am | Permalink

    Thanks so much for recording the event, magicinthenumbers! Not only for recording and sharing it, but for capturing it in such great quality so we not only get a good look at the whole panel and fans, but also the sound is great.

    GRRM did a great job hosting/asking the questions.

    NCW and Jason Momoa are so comfortable and confident when they’re in front of an audience. You can really tell that they both love this series and are proud of it. I laughed when NCW said Isaac was really annoying so his favorite scene was pushing Bran out the window XDD

    Jason Momoa—the eyeliner, yelling in Dothraki, his explanation of ripping out Mago’s tongue (“I was telling my wife I really wanted to rip out a man’s throat”) and comment about “raping beautiful women…and making them fall in love with me…uh…next question?” I love this guy! Very sweet that he called the fan “Moon of my life”. He seemed genuinely excited about that girl’s Drogo shirt (I want one!!!)

    Lena is so much nicer when she’s not playing Cersei, haha. I wish she had gotten better questions.

    Kit Harrington and Emilia Clarke seemed very nervous, haha. I wish they had gotten better questions.

    Least impressive: Emmy nominee, Peter Dinklage. Was he nervous, or what? He often comes off as the type of doesn’t want to be there. It’s kind of sad considering he’s a fan favorite.

  14. Cheri
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Man I miss Ned!!
    Unfortunately I couldn’t be at Comic-Con but I watched some of the coverage. I’m not so sure it was all the panelists faults that some looked “out of sorts.” I watched an interview on EW or something and the dude interviewing them seemed like a giant star struck dork. Granted he was probably a huge fan but in that profession don’t you think you should act a little more cool? Peter Drinklage is not a good interview to start with, so I think it would take someone who’s really good at their job to bring him out of his shell a little bit. I love love love him though! Maybe he’ll go with me to the Marine Corps Ball (if I was a Marine) Maybe just dinner! :)

  15. Cheri
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    rapscallion,

    Way to be a buzzkill! I must be so out of the loop! I started reading these books about 2 weeks ago and I’m on the fourth one…A Feast for Crows(yes I’m a big dork and yes I’m a fast reader) I hope that GRRM is not in too bad of health because I would like to see how it all plays out.

  16. Phil Gate$
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    It’s ok to break ASOS into 2 seasons because a lot happens and it’s awesome.
    And because hardly anything happens in Feast and NOTHING happens in Dragons

  17. Josh Parker
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Phil Gate$,

    Wow. So, so much wrong with that statement.

  18. persephone88
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    While I’d love to see the entire series continue on HBO, I have said from the first time I heard they were attempting the series “If they get to the Red Wedding, I will be happy!” That is such a huge event, I just wanted to see the story up until that point visualized onscreen. If they go past season three, it’s all gravy!

    On another note, we went to see Harry Potter at the movies this week, and the whole time I was there, I was thinking, “Man, I would have loved to have seen the first season of GoT on a screen this big.” The show just calls for a grand old movie theatre screen, it is cinematically so gorgeous!

  19. Cheri
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    persephone88,

    I totally and completely agree. It would be awesome to see GoT on the big screen..maybe in IMAX?

  20. DanSnow
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    Thank you, WiCnet!

    Your coverage last night was fantastic, and posting this too is great of you. You’re obviously thinking about the fans of your site, and trust me, you’re doing a great job in keeping us all well fed and informed!

  21. Alexa
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    rapscallion,

    Dude,

    you are a troll.

  22. John W
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Erik N.,

    I was kind of shocked that he said that. Notice the look both Emilia and Lena gave him.

  23. Franny Bee
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Awesome video. Now I was ‘there’!

    LOLed at Jason re: rape scene. Sorry, inappropriate humor is the best! You can tell Momoa is the most comfortable up there.

    Peter Dinklage manages to pull off ‘everyman’, answering questions like any fan would – with humility and tongue-in-cheek humor and awe at his own situation.

    Emilia is adorable, def get her enthusiastic ‘newbie’ vibe.

    Kit too is refreshing and somewhat shy, though now I wonder if he is gay (his Alfie/Richard hot & sweaty joke, while brilliant = hmm?) Yes, as a straight female, these petty things weigh on me, lol.

    Nikolaj’s answer to the ending of the series (20 yrs later, cottage with Jaime & Cersei holding hands & growing old together) was a WIN & funny and appropriate for his character :D

    Lena came across as intelligent, thoughtful, and serious about her character/work. She doesn’t hate Cersei as much as the rest of us do. Something I might watch for in future seasons.

    Surprised at how long it takes them sometimes to decide who is going to answer a question. Lotsa long silences as they all kinda stare at each other, waiting for someone else to answer. Suppose this is true of a lot of panels, but when time is short, you FEEL the silences! Kinda wish they were just told ‘YOU answer first’ for this one, YOU second, etc (when the question is directed at the whole cast, not a specific actor). But it was so nice to see them all together, interacting.

    Small things: loved how Jason stood up for Emilia’s entrance, pulled out her chair, was basically a gentleman/protective towards her. Also could see Jaime’s cocky, casual attitude on Nicolaj – it’s a natural occurrence. Greatly appreciated the respect they all gave GRRM. No one took him for granted, everyone sought his approval. The Power of the Pen!

    What does the whole focus on getting through RW/season 3 mean? That they are just looking forward to that the most, or that they don’t really have an interest if there is a season 4 (and onwards)..?

  24. paulgude
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    I honestly think his “If we can get to RW” statement is is an echo of sentiments that we’ve seen on the boards before. They’re sentiments I’ve expressed, too.

    It doesn’t mean the same thing as “Once we get to RW, we’re done,” to me. To me, it speaks more to shows that have left before the producers wanted. Carnivale had a plan for five seasons, for example. Deadwood and Rome left before their time.

    Basically, D&D have just said, “Don’t cancel us…there’s something really cool coming up.”

    Maybe not necessary when the show seems to be doing well, but I appreciate the fact that his words echoed our own cautious…optimism? I said something like, we get to season two, anyone who’s read ASoS will give us a season three. (Or, because of their earlier statement…four?)

  25. Fog
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    New interview showing the signing
    http://youtu.be/Blj65aOIaxY

  26. Caedes
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I have to say, I’m a little bit disappointed by the SDCC panel. Sure, they all have a fun time and share a few laughs with not so few fans, but there’s no actual, juicy news.

    Maybe I put my spectations too high on this.

    Anyway, my impression of NCW and Jason Momoa just rised up a few more steps.

  27. Tolgeros
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    A lot of the fan questions were pretty dumb, like “What was it like for you to act in this role?” Yawn.

    What about questions like:
    What was GRRM’s favorite deviation from the books?
    Will we see The Blackfish?
    Will we see the House of the Undying scene?
    Whatever happened to the scene from the trailers with Aerys II, Brandon, and Rickard?
    Are you ever going to Promise me, Ned?
    Will we see Dolorous Edd? Probably not; just his luck.
    Will GRRM finish TWoW before 2017?
    Why is Peter Dinklage so hung over?
    Will GRRM ever post the rules to cyvasse so me and my nerd friends can play it?
    Where do whores go?

  28. Flouride
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Pretty boring panel to be honest and in just 1 hour you can’t really do much. No real news, most of the questions weren’t that intresting either. Jason at least made me laugh :)

    Thanks for the live-feed thingie WiC & co.

  29. duckey
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    NCW is a very good ambassador for the series. He comes across as across as totally at ease and has a warmth that seems genuine.

  30. Steel_Wind
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    rapscallion:
    The fact that they’re going to split ASOS into more than 1 season strongly suggests that they have no real intention of finishing out the series on film and are really just trying to get to the Red Wedding. Splitting it up means finishing out would require a minimum of 7 seasons, and more likely 8. Getting more than 6 seasons from HBO is a big longshot.

    I expect production values and overall effort to drop considerably after season 3, as they just run it into the ground for the money.

    With GRRM’s in bad health, it’s unlikely the series will ever be finished.

    This a pile of crap; really – it’s just pure crap. You may think such opinions affect an air of jaded cynicism and the world-weary voice of experience, but I just think it makes you come off as the kid who dresses up like Brandon Lee and lurks in the shadowy corner because that way people will think you are cool.

    The only thing that would cause HBO to dump the series is if the execs believe that their subscribers don’t want it and there is more money to be made putting some other series in there in its place. If it gets numbers and fan and critical reaction like, say, Camelot? They’ll pull the plug. But that didn’t happen and there is no reason at this stage to believe it will happen, either.

    There are all KINDS of reasons to believe that that isn’t the case with GoT. The overall story is a sound one and proceeds towards a real conclusion over the course of time. While there may be some relatively “actionless” waystops along the road, D&D can and will change some of that, so that weakness will be remedied. There is a real END planned to the series, which makes it different from the open-ended nature of other shows which go on and on without a goal in mind — other than to go on and on, that is.

    The Story is the Star and that story can easily carry the series to the end of the tale. The only question is whether fans will still want to watch it and pay for the privilege of doing so in order to permit it to get there. There is no magic RED BUTTON that the Programming Director at HBO has on their desk that start to blink just because a series has been on the air for two season. HBO didn’t pull the plug on The Sopranos, James Gandolfini pulled the plug on the show. It didn’t die over money — it died over the star’s boredom with the role and the open ended nature of the series. That’s a distinction with a big difference.

    Right now, fan interest in the show appears to be trending up and interest in the novels is *sky high*. International sales of the show are extremely strong. The only thing which will cause HBO to bail on GoT is if fan interest and international success dwindles and the numbers trend down in relation to the profitibility of the show below an unacceptable level. That’s it; that’s all.

    Honestly? I’m bullish on a complete series Arc for the show on HBO for however long it takes to do it. There is no reason to be so pessimistic. Interest in the book series and the word of mouth concerning it has only trended up over the past fifteeen years. It has never, ever, dropped. Not even once.

  31. Ollie
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Just imagine if Larry Williams was in charge of the questions and got to ask Martin why he killed ned. that would be priceless I think we will need him for Q&A after the red wedding lol

  32. Geoff
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Peter seemed tired and grumpy he is a fan favorite and it seemed like more than the others he did not want to be there, and he was the only cast member to have been to the Con before. Jason seemed to be having the time of his life. His story about reading about his death was awesome. Jason and Emilia have both mentioned that they become close on set, and you can see that with how Jason treated her. Nikolaj amazing as well, great panel fun to watch. Peter please smile more…keep up the good work people!!

  33. Margot
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Guys are you planning to put here some transcripts of the panel. The woman speaking in the background is making it really difficult to hear what everyone is saying. Apart from that. THANK YOU!!!! Those clips made my day and i am sure they are going to make some of my friends really happy. Jason – you are a true gentleman!

  34. kerning
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for putting this up! It was a pleasure to watch. :)

    Lemme add my voice to those that’s said from the beginning: get to RW, please please please!!–and then anything afterward is totally gravy. I absolutely want the entire story filmed, but if the series were to be cut short, everyone will have major regrets if it doesn’t reach that event.

    I was very disappointed with Peter. While I think he put in as much effort as he could muster in responding to questions, I felt even his answers hinted at…hmm, I dunno, disinterest in the series? The whole, ‘I lost interest when I wasn’t in a scene…it came back when I was acting…lost it again when I was off…’ and his favourite moment being the trial–but seemingly more because he was having fun entertaining ‘bored extras.’

    Contrast it to NCW and Jason Momoa and Emilia–they seemed so effusive and excited. The rest did too, though tempered with some shyness.

    So excited for the…suggestion? Certainly not confirmation, I guess…of SoS as more than 1 season!!

  35. Igor Veloso
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Peter Dinklage on a bad day or is he one of these people who maybe funny and all but always with a serious face? Or is it really his “bored” personality? Looks weird.

    Loved everyone though, it was funny and entertaining. Jason is an amazing entertainer, he knows what the audience wants!

  36. Clob
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    kerning: The whole, ‘I lost interest when I wasn’t in a scene…it came back when I was acting…lost it again when I was off…’ and his favourite moment being the trial–but seemingly more because he was having fun entertaining ‘bored extras.’

    I believe he said it the other way around. He (jokingly) said he lost interest when HE was in the scene and then regained interest once he was off.

  37. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Igor Veloso, my impression on meeting Dinklage is this is just his general persona. He is very laid-back, to the point of seeming disinterested. He is also very sarcastic and self-deprecating at times too. Which is why he is the perfect Tyrion.

    But really, I don’t think he is less enthusiastic about the show than the others. And I do think he enjoys the attention and acclaim (Lena Headey admitted as much in our interview with her). He just doesn’t have the outgoing and magnetic personality that Jason or Emilia have. But he is an awesome Tyrion and that is all that really matters.

  38. Shock Me
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Clob: I believe he said it the other way around. He (jokingly) said he lost interest when HE was in the scene and then regained interest once he was off.

    I agree. I think reading about his own character is probably alot more like work than entertainment.

  39. Igor Veloso
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    I noticed his laid back personality, I met people like that and I am very much like that myself lol but you know, beeing on this side always looks a little bit less positive. The way he described his favorite scene and the way he reacted on other cast members jokes I could see Tyrion on him, though. Great pick.

    There was no pun intended on my first comment =) Congratulations on meeting Peter I’m sure you had fun being there. Thanks for taking that less positive impression out of my back haha Thanks for the reply :)

  40. Eagle1
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Tolgeros: A lot of the fan questions were pretty dumb, like “What was it like for you to act in this role?” Yawn.What about questions like: . . . . Where do whores go?

    Awesome. I’d love to see someone drop that question on George and hear his witty response, probably something like “Uhh . . . Vegas, I think, and if Parris isn’t listening, many many sections of Santa Fe.”

  41. paulgude
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    As I brought up on the other thread, when everyone wants Jason Momoa to do the haka and Jason shakes his head no, Peter Dinklage acts like he’ll step in and do it instead. He’s obviously having fun, just has a more subdued demeanor.

  42. paulgude
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Clob: I believe he said it the other way around. He (jokingly) said he lost interest when HE was in the scene and then regained interest once he was off.

    Exactly right. He was being self-depreciating, saying that the opening was exciting and he was boring in comparison.

  43. Cheri
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    paulgude,

    a dance number!

  44. Eagle1
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming: Igor Veloso, my impression on meeting Dinklage is this is just his general persona.

    There are a couple of videos of him on youtube acting “normal” and engaging. Yesterday, thought, seemed almost like an act in and of itself. Chewing gum on stage, acting uninterested. Is it some sort of nervous defense mechanism for the fame that’s coming? He really needs to pick it up a notch. He’s about to be in the public eye much more in the coming months and years, and the whole “I’m a cool actor who is bored” thing will get tired fast. People, including me, love this guy. He needs to pound a few Red Bulls and smile a bunch more.

  45. Langkard
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    I agree. Dinklage is just very laid back and relaxed. Perhaps a bit hungover as someone else said above.

    I enjoyed seeing the panel. Big thanks to the person who recorded and posted it.

    NCW is quickly becoming one of my favorite actors in the series (Dinklage remains at the top of the list, unreachable, along with Maisie Williams). His story about the gaffer and his nose was great. His pre-panel interview was good too. Every time I see him on screen I come to appreciate his portrayal of Jaime more and more.

    Emilia Clarke is such a delight, in character on screen and off screen like this panel. What a great personality.

    Everyone involved did a wonderful job. Dan looked a little more jet-lagged than Dave, which is why he didn’t really speak much. Or maybe he was partying with Peter Dinklage too late after getting in at midnight the night before, as they said in the interview.

  46. Langkard
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    I meant to say I agree with Paul Gude’s post above:

    paulgude:
    Winter Is Coming,

    As I brought up on the other thread, when everyone wants Jason Momoa to do the haka and Jason shakes his head no, Peter Dinklage acts like he’ll step in and do it instead. He’s obviously having fun, just has a more subdued demeanor.

  47. Lisa
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    I think, Peter also seems a bit uninterested and restrained because he’s sitting next to Jason Momoa and Emilia Clarke who just seem uber-extroverted and bubbly. So that’s just a bit of a contrast in personalities.
    But I also got the impression that he’s just very laid-back and not necessarily disinterested in the show. Or he was hungover, also a possibility. :D

  48. loco73
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    This was so cool, to see the actors and producers of the show and get their perspective on things, as well as the man himself, George RR Martin!

    I hope they continue on the great path they started and we get a full run of the show!

  49. Igor Veloso
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Lisa,

    I’d be intimidated too haha Jason is quite the entertainer

  50. andrea
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    so little Arya (and no Needle) in the “recap” at Comic Con!!! although it is a good recap

  51. Lisa
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Igor Veloso:
    Lisa,

    I’d be intimidated too haha Jason is quite the entertainer

    Yeah, and he seems so big. :D

  52. saluk
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    It’s fun to see the actors being actors, and get a feel for what each of them brought to the role. It’s easy to say, “well the script is good”, or “this ep had a good director”, but you can see how the actors personalities contribute, which is pretty cool.

    I didn’t have high expectations for this panel (I’ve seen enough of them, they are rarely mind blowing affairs), but all in all it was decent.

    It seems like they really are trying to do the big battle from the 2nd book instead of skipping by it, hopefully they can pull it off. It was HILARIOUS when george proposed handing around his hat!

    rapscallion:
    The fact that they’re going to split ASOS into more than 1 season strongly suggests that they have no real intention of finishing out the series on film and are really just trying to get to the Red Wedding. Splitting it up means finishing out would require a minimum of 7 seasons, and more likely 8. Getting more than 6 seasons from HBO is a big longshot.

    I expect production values and overall effort to drop considerably after season 3, as they just run it into the ground for the money.

    Firstly, it has to be split up. Many fans have already proposed this option. Yes it’s unlikely they will finish it out, but it’s always been somewhat of an unlikely prospect. It’s less that they are only trying to get to RW, more that they hope they get at least that far, because it would be a shame not to. This was in context of how they weren’t sure if they would get a pilot, they weren’t sure about a pickup, they weren’t sure if the show would get ratings etc. It’s still unsure how far it can get, but they will feel better ending at RW than before.

    The best chance we have is for ratings to continue to grow.

  53. Jeff T
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    As to the RW comment by D & D, all he is saying is:

    “Look if we can get HBO to take this series as far as the RW, this show will be a huge success and because of that huge climatic moment in the series, it will give the show a huge kick it needs to go on for many more years”

    Thats what hes saying. He even mentioned that if it makes it that far that his CAREER is set and he can retire, meaning this show will be a very big part of his life and will last a long time. I think he has a very great point here and I am equally as optimistic on that IF as well.

    As for Peter Dinklege like many people have said, this is how he is. A very bright and smart guy that jokes around alot and is very sarcastic. Hes totally into it. Didnt you see him in the beginning of the video giving a sign with his fingers to everyone in the crowd.

    Love this video. Thank you so much WINTER IS COMING. As always, keep it coming!

  54. purplejilly
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Tolgeros: Where do whores go?

    Ha! Great question! XD

  55. Blackfish Blues
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Tolgeros:
    A lot of the fan questions were pretty dumb, like “What was it like for you to act in this role?”Yawn.

    What about questions like:
    What was GRRM’s favorite deviation from the books?
    Will we see The Blackfish?
    Will we see the House of the Undying scene?
    Whatever happened to the scene from the trailers with Aerys II, Brandon, and Rickard?
    Are you ever going to Promise me, Ned?
    Will we see Dolorous Edd?Probably not; just his luck.
    Will GRRM finish TWoW before 2017?
    Why is Peter Dinklage so hung over?
    Will GRRM ever post the rules to cyvasse so me and my nerd friends can play it?
    Where do whores go?

    Tolgeros, I’m adding you to my heroes for question 2. We should create a Blackfish Fan Club, but I have no idea how.

  56. Avalanche3319
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    The fan questions overall were very disappointing. Seriously, there’s enough time for maybe ten questions and we get stuff like “was it hard to do your fight scene with long hair?” and “how were you able to play such a strong woman?”

  57. Knurk
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: Tolgeros, I’m adding you to my heroes for question 2. We should create a Blackfish Fan Club, but I have no idea how.

    we should make our own BWB, Brotherhood without the Blackfish. We’ll be a group of renegades wreaking havoc everywhere in the name of our (most likely) cut Lord.

  58. paulgude
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Cheri,

    Perfect delivery on that line, too.

  59. OhWhoCares
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Haha please let me know when you pass around the signup sheet for the brotherhood without blackfish!

  60. Cheri
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    paulgude,

    I literally laughed out loud at work while watching video. He cracked me up!

  61. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Please stop discussing stuff from A Dance with Dragons. I know it is a very minor spoiler, but we want to keep all ADWD discussion out of the general threads.

  62. andrea
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: Blackfish Fan Club,

    like “The bloody mummers” but “The f*cking bloody black fishies”?

  63. OhWhoCares
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Sorry W. i know i’m guilty but i couldn’t resist commenting on that theory :(

  64. Steve the Pirate
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    I thought Momoa’s joke about rape was funny. Girls on tumblr are going apeshit over it, but whatever. People joke about killing all the time and never think twice about. Like, “Oh I could kill you for saying that! lol.” To me, nothing is sacred in humor. He obviously meant nothing serious by it, so I hope people don’t make a huge deal out of the comment beyond the next couple days.

  65. Caedes
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Avalanche3319:
    The fan questions overall were very disappointing. Seriously, there’s enough time for maybe ten questions and we get stuff like “was it hard to do your fight scene with long hair?” and “how were you able to play such a strong woman?”

    I think it’s a viral thing. When GRRM was here in Spain two years ago, two of the four questions were (paraphrasing)

    I know your work is influenced by french literature of the 19th century, could you please tell us who your favourite authors of the period are?

    and

    In this time of turnmoil and anarchy, where evil corporations are threatening to crumble the very foundations of our existence by denying us the right to dream, are you aware that your books are an open gate into the realms of untamed imagination?

    George was too polite and articulate, and provided long, extended answers, but they can be reduced to

    - I’ve never read french literature of the 19th century, so no.

    and

    - WTF?

  66. Clob
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    I keep watching the very beginning of part 2. Man, Momoa would be awesome at a party, especially if it’s around a bonfire! Can you imagine sitting around a fire with a bunch of friends drinking beer, and Jason gets up, rips off his shirt and goes into a live repeat of his “speech performance” about invading Westeros?!?!

  67. Shadowcat85
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Even though the EW interviews were a bust, they have some good pictures in their gallery of the cast.

    http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20399642_20512173,00.html#20991769

  68. andrea
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming:
    Please stop discussing stuff from A Dance with Dragons. I know it is a very minor spoiler, but we want to keep all ADWD discussion out of the general threads.

    I think for that reason you deleted my post, it´s ok (I should have put the spoiler tags) but I did not even realized was something from ADwD too because I didn´t read it yet. I was referring to the dialogue between Mel and Jon from AFFC Sorry.

  69. Clob
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Tolgeros: A lot of the fan questions were pretty dumb, like “What was it like for you to act in this role?” Yawn.What about questions like:What was GRRM’s favorite deviation from the books?Will we see The Blackfish?Will we see the House of the Undying scene?Whatever happened to the scene from the trailers with Aerys II, Brandon, and Rickard?Are you ever going to Promise me, Ned?Will we see Dolorous Edd? Probably not; just his luck.Will GRRM finish TWoW before 2017?Why is Peter Dinklage so hung over?Will GRRM ever post the rules to cyvasse so me and my nerd friends can play it?Where do whores go?

    I wouldn’t want to waste my one chance at a question, but I’d have a hard time not asking,
    “So Peter/Tyrion, what DID happen next after you brought a jackass and a honeycomb into the brothel?”

  70. Qthulhu
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    I just thought I’d chip in here re: Peter Dinklage. I wasn’t a bored extra in the Eyrie but I was in a scene with him, he has a healthy sense of humour and took a definite interest in the delivery and performance. He’s not hopped up on sugar leaping around like a maniac, and he doesn’t need to be.

    He just strikes me as self deprecating and a touch glib, but if I’d spent my last “free” weekend being ferried to a convention for “OH HEY HAVE YOU READ THE BOOKS!?!?!” and then straight to Belfast (not a short flight) I’d think if anything I would have been even more deadpan myself.

    I’ve a lot of time for Peter Dinklage and many others of the cast and crew, and my fuse is just getting shorter the more of these sorts of comments I see. Criticism is fine and all but it’s like people are just complaining for the sake of complaining. That and all these people milling about “Why haven’t I been phoned yet?” “Can I shave since I haven’t been phoned?” “LOOK I BROUGHT A BOW TO MY EXTRAS AUDITION!” and the people banging on about Blackwater like it’s a keystone of the series.

    I don’t know what ASoIaF novels everyone else has been reading, but mine were character driven/focused. I wanted battle porn I’d be reading something else entirely.

    Right, now I need a cup of tea to calm down.

  71. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Clob,
    He is welcome to show up at my house this weekend for a bonfire! That would be friggin awesome. His wife is welcome to come, that way my husband and his friends have something to gawk at too! :)

  72. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Qthulhu,

    I don’t blame you…kinda tired about the Blackfish whining too. And honestly, I skipped some of the Blackwater stuff on my first read and went back to it after all the talk about it. I didn’t think it was such a big deal that they absolutely have to show it. I think a couple of good fighting scenes and showing Tyrions chain coming up then the fire overwhelming the ships from a distance would work just fine.

    I love everything about the show so far including the wigs, the sex, the wolves, the actors appearance and character portrayals. I also like the added scenes because I enjoy a surprise. Keep it coming D & D!!!! :)

  73. Ripley
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    I’ve read comments from Jason Momoa in the past, where he said he was extremely nervous when he did panels for Stargate Atlantis, because of how many people are there. Guess he’s an old pro now. He did a great job and was very entertaining. I’d give the comic-con newbies a break, it’s got to be just a little overwhelming.

  74. Alwyn Joseph
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Dinklage’s entrance was fantastic, I bet Fabio was one of the people shouting Tyrion :D
    Tyrion is not impressed(Part 2 ) :D

  75. Clob
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Oh cool. Here’s a closer look at Jason doing his Drogo part during the panel:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r31az37O1fI

  76. duckey
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    I just realized that Lena was wearing Nikolaj’s hat during the panel.

  77. kerning
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Clob,

    Ooh, apologies. Mea culpa, mea culpa–coulda sworn he said it t’other way…

    Sadly, it doesn’t change the fact that I felt he was unenthused and perhaps even a little bored. Hope the rest of you are right about a hangover/jet lag. I don’t really buy the laid-back explanation–that’s me to a tee, but that’s very different to me from disinterested.

  78. Blackfish Blues
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    HandmaidenofDany:
    Qthulhu,
    I don’t blame you…kinda tired about the Blackfish whining too.

    Whining?

    Excuuuse me if we’ve hurt your exquisite sensitivities, dear. I’d suggest for you to skip ahead, then, because if what came before was “whining” for you, this is a full-fledged rant about to hit you like a freight train.

    I speak for myself because I don’t want to put words in the mouth of the other Blackfish supporters, but they seem even more tongue-in-cheek than I am. I’ve supported this series from the get-go. I said nothing about Nikolaj’s nose, the chair, barking Ghost, you name it. There NEVER was something that made me say “OMG THE MOLE ON NED’S NOSE IS THE WRONG SHAPE AND THIS RUINS THE SERIES FOR ME.” I disliked Roz, yes, partly for rational reasons, partly because she has no charm whatsoever for me. (I’m a hetero woman, and if Shae hit on me I’d say yes – astounding, there’s such a thing as different tastes!!!) I LOVED the damn series despite the fact that MY DAMN FAVOURITE CHARACTER was not in it. I wrote on the forums, I posted on my blog, I drove my friends crazy, I supported the damn bottom with every damn living breath.

    What do I get in return? That I’m “whining”.

    Am I taking it personally? Yes. Because I too am fed up by the sheer intolerance against different opinions that poisons every damn forum. I’ll never repeat it enough, WiC & Co. are awesome, but every damn fandom is inherently a nest of vipers. Everybody defending their little piece of turf, nobody looking out for the others. I truly hope this is the LAST fandom that fascinates me so much as to want to be a part of it.

    Oh, I guess you could say I’m intolerant against anti-Blackfish opinions. I have no hope of making you understand the damn difference between being FOR or AGAINST something. I’ll try with an example. I care little about Davos, I don’t know Liam Cunningham, but I’m glad people like him. If there were a slew of people screaming that Cunningham sucks, that would hurt me, even though I’m not emotionally invested in the matter. Does this mean anything at all to anybody? My experience has taught me that it doesn’t, that very few people understand how hurtful a negative opinion can be when a positive opinion might at worse be indifferent.

    If GRRM or someone like him comes here, our positive opinion of the Blackfish MIGHT sway the course of events (I personally don’t think so, I believe GRRM has it all planned or anyway everything depends from his choices and only his), and negative opinions could hurt us grievously. To use the same example as before, did the support for Liam Cunningham helped his casting? I can’t be sure, but I feel that this site helped sway the balance at least a little. What if everybody had been putting him down? Would we have an interesting Davos now?

    “Oh, but the Blackfish is not important, less Blackfish and more Blackwater or whatever.” NO. Don’t be so arrogant as to presume you’re GRRM and decide WHAT will be important in future books. And even just an extra in a black armour with a fish crest would be nice for a lot of people and not detract from anything else.

    Oh yeah, by the way, let’s speak of the damnatio memoriae. Ever heard of it? It’s Latin. It happens when a character is erased from the official HBO family trees which otherwise list dead people, 14th generation ancestors, family pets etc, when the silliest of explanations (“he changed sex and joined the Silent Sisters”) would suffice to explain his absence from the series. It happens when this character’s land is demoted to “The Seven Kingdoms AND the Riverlands”. It adds insult to injury and might, just MIGHT explain why us “whiners” are a bit fed up about it all.

    Also. Nice that I’m “whining” because GRRM, whose work we all admired last time I checked, has created characters who from the smallest to the most important have touched readers’ hearts and lives so deeply that they’d go to any length for them. Nice that there’s an almost absolute lack of solidarity between us fans of different characters.

    I bought ADWD today and already feel like throwing it out of the window before having read one single line, knowing this is what waits for me when I try to contribute to this damn fandom which managed to snare me in. Last time, I swear, last time. “Community” life (such an ironic turn of phrase) is not for me.

    I propose a new acronym: BWB = Blackfish Whiners Band. Let’s wear it as a badge of honour.

    (substitute every “damn” with “f*cking” and you’ll have my full outlook on this matter.)

  79. Clob
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    duckey: I just realized that Lena was wearing Nikolaj’s hat during the panel.

    Is she? You could be right. I was thinking it was Nik wearing Lena’s hat in the picture at the signing tables. I thought it looked a bit small for his head is why I thought that. I’m not there in person to know. :)

  80. Knurk
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues,

    Whawha *snap* girl. I really agree with you.

    HandmaidenofDany, why do you think we’re whining? We’re being vocal about one of our favourite characters because we fear he’ll be cut. In previous threads there have been some good arguments why we think Blackfish shouldn’t be dismissed so easily. We are a very reasonable group, we argue with alot of people but we do not whine. If you want to complain about people whining go have a go at the people who blame some actors weren’t enthusiastic enough during the panel.

  81. uberstellar
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Guys, there’s been so much passive aggressive in-fighting on these and a bunch of other boards, and it’s a bummer. I know there’s trolls, but besides that there seems like this gulf where differing opinions become the sole topic of posts.

    For one, arguing on the internet doesn’t do anything to change a different opinion. And also, so long as no one is attacking another person’s opinion (which I kind of look at as a work around to the rule against personal attacks- like it’s okay to be really rude as long as you don’t name names or use general terms), what’s the problem?

    Despite my loud and frequent praise, no one I know in real life has read these books or watched the series. I use fansites to be able to have discussions, voice my joys and dislikes, read other people’s interpretations (even- gasp- if I don’t agree or understand), and it gives me a sense of outlet and community. I think it’s entirely possible to passionately declare an opinion about something without bashing the opposing side, because despite being unnecessary and mean, it also makes for a weak argument frankly.

    I nerd out with a lot of emotion, and I feel really grateful there’s a place for me and other people to do that. Can’t we geek-rage but stay nice to each other?

  82. Qthulhu
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues,

    I can’t speak for an explanation of “Blackfish whining” but I will say that if they had time enough to find a good lookalike extra for Maege Mormont then I have every confidence they’ll fit in a Blackfish one, and the less you see of a Blackfish extra the greater the chance of a Blackfish role.

    It’s not George’s show, but I imagine if you asked George nicely he could probably mention it to production “Hey we need an extra that looks like this standing next to Edmure”.

    I don’t recall seeing a Blackfish-a-like at our camp or Moat Cailin scenes which would make me believe there is a Blackfish “plan”. I would be verrrrrrrrry surprised if there was zero Blackfish this year because either he or Edmure would be a handy character to have appear and deliver (*very* late) his news regarding the Riverlands and all things Tully-shaped. If not this year, DEFINITELY next year.

    If Tullys are to be announced, you will be waiting until the end of August. According to WiCnet Starks are being called for this Monday. They’re doing a few days and then there’s a Stark gap until the end of August. Ish. In the meantime Ballintoy Harbour is booked for early August. No Starks means Ballintoy is unlikely to be White Harbor, so we assume Greyjoy filming.

    So yeah, I say enjoy a nice August, sipping mead or hippocras with some choice chilled soaked raisins and wait for Froggy to appear. If you’re impatient, badger the WiCnet and Westeros majordomos to get a Fans Q&A to find out which characters are now featured extras. I’d have thought someone would have asked by now but I guess there’s not enough Blackfish or Damphair fans in the world. GOOD LUCK.

  83. duckey
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Clob: Is she?You could be right.I was thinking it was Nik wearing Lena’s hat in the picture at the signing tables.I thought it looked a bit small for his head is why I thought that.I’m not there in person to know. :)

    @Clob

    I could of course be wrong but Nikolaj wore a hat just like the one Lena wore during the panel not only at the signing but also at the Monte Carlo TV festival a couple of months ago and Lena wasn’t present for that.

    It just struck me as funny that maybe they are swapping hats.

  84. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    You know, I don’t know that I’d want A Storm Of Swords split into two completely separate seasons. A more ideal scenario would probably be an extended season; sixteen episodes (with the split in the middle) to make up for the four we’ve lost through seasons one and two (most HBO dramas are given 12 episode seasons) and the additional two for the third season. That way it doesn’t get dragged out too long, and we don’t have twenty episodes telling the story for the third novel (I personally think it’d be too many, despite the amount of material needing to be covered).

    I’m still not entirely sure I like the attitude that if they (the show runners) can get to the Red Wedding, they’ll have accomplished their goal of telling this story, however when placed in the context of them being happy to have just had a chance to even film season one (and now season two), it seems more understandable and rational. Obviously the ultimate goal is to finish the series off in a manner consistent with G.R.R.M.’s story, but that’s something that really isn’t up to them, but to us as viewers. So if we want to see this thing continue, subscribe to HBO (even if it’s only when the show airs, although you’ll be missing out on Boardwalk Empire), buy the DVD’s/Blu-Ray’s, and spread the good word.

    Oh, and thanks to whomever uploaded the video of the panel.

    Dance number.

  85. Zitah
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Fun to watch, but not a lot of news about the upcoming seasons – apart from when DB talks about how season 3 could end on the RW. I think that could work for me. Although Joffrey’s wedding and Tyrion’s trial seems a better cliffhanger to end a season with in my opinion).

    The audience’s questions were absolutely dumb, boderline embarassing to watch. I felt sorry for the girl asking Emilia Clarke about her character with tears in her eyes. It bothers me a lot how everyone seems to cheer less for Lena Headey than for everyone else. She’s portrayed an amazing Cersei, and Cersei is a great character too when you analyse the story objectively!

    Being honest here, I’ve been a avid fantasy reader for years now, read all the ASoIaF books (finished ADwD a few days ago), and this show is one the best literary adaptations I’ve ever seen on screen. I understand digging about it on the web and discussing the story with other fans, and even the general concept of writing and reading fanfictions makes sense to me as well. But I just don’t get where this typical behavior from fantasy fans – all this commotion and shouting and crying and going crazy about it – comes from. Seriously.

  86. Knurk
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    uberstellar: I nerd out with a lot of emotion, and I feel really grateful there’s a place for me and other people to do that. Can’t we geek-rage but stay nice to each other?

    amen.

  87. andrea
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues,

    I see you´re angry and I´m sorry, don´t have the experiencie that you have in this kind of sites. You´re angry as a true italian!!! (although I don´t know if you are) and I understand that perfectly. I try to play with you with the name of the Blackfish fan site (don´t know if you saw it) because I rrrrreally like him, (reminds me of my father actually who I miss horribly) so I understand your anger and I agree with you on everything you said and the way you wrote it made me laugh, it was very witty, despite the anger. I enjoy it. Non essere arrabbiata per sempre. Il Pesce Nero é amato da molti altri!!! (my italian is pretty bad as my english).

  88. andrea
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: Oh yeah, by the way, let’s speak of the damnatio memoriae. Ever heard of it?

    I´m very impressed with the Damnatio memoriae. Nice! A terrible custom practiced by the egiptians too… ( Roma likely took the custom from them). And also the greeks did too with their “ostracism”. Good for you!

    Blackfish Blues: of the other Blackfish supporters, but they seem even more tongue-in-cheek than I am.

    Please…could you explain to me what it means: “tongue-in-cheek”? I can not translate.

  89. Qthulhu
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek

    EDIT – Oops, you’re not Italian. Oh well.

  90. andrea
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Qthulhu: Oops, you’re not Italian. Oh well.

    I´m not but I studied italian a few years so I understand. Thank you!

  91. Bro
    Posted July 22, 2011 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Thanks HmR! Been looking forward to this all week.

  92. Blackfish Blues
    Posted July 23, 2011 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    Qthulhu:
    andrea,
    http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek
    EDIT – Oops, you’re not Italian. Oh well.

    I am, I’ve just a fondness for strange turn of phrases :D Thanks all for the support, I thought I’d get banned. A *calmer* reply later, I have a train to catch :P

  93. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted July 23, 2011 at 4:36 am | Permalink

    Eagle1,

    I see quite a bit of criticism on Mr Dinklage lately and don’t think much of it is warranted. He has not had this much media attention before and may just be trying to stay loose (also seen as disinterest) due to a high stress level. I would not judge his personality on these interviews/conventions.

  94. Sixskins
    Posted July 23, 2011 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    Any chance we can get this videos with subs?

  95. Blackfish Blues
    Posted July 23, 2011 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Knurk:
    Blackfish Blues,
    We are a very reasonable group, we argue with alot of people but we do not whine.

    Thanks. Exactly! We’re almost all a very reasonable group. That’s why I used the phrase “tongue-in-cheek” for the other BWBs or Bloody Blackfishies (thx Andrea!), they don’t take it personally as I do. I’m trying to avoid that, but it’s a full-time job. The first half of the year has brought a lot of losses in my personal life; nothing serious (friends moving on, relatives getting older and unable to keep up with my journeys and assorted revels), but everything at the same time, and it made me feel very lonely. When even my fave fantasy character was threatened with disappearance, I reacted quite badly.

    (I’ll say it once again. I was sad that he wasn’t in S1, but I understood. What I hated was the little slights like the absence from the official family tree, GRRM and D&D never giving a straight answer, etc. And in general the protracted tension.)

    So…

    uberstellar:
    Guys, there’s been so much passive aggressive in-fighting on these and a bunch of other boards, and it’s a bummer. I know there’s trolls, but besides that there seems like this gulf where differing opinions become the sole topic of posts.
    [...]

    I absolutely agree, and if there’s someting I want to apologize for, is for having treated HandmaidenOfDany with inexcusable rudeness. Sorry, girl, you were in the line of fire, being the last of a long string of people who, when we’re having a quiet discussion about the Blackfish, pipes up with “I don’t care about the Blackfish” or the like. I have no problem with different opinions, absolutely, quite the contrary! But I have problems with negativity, especially when it comes a bit out of the blue.

    I’ll try to explain with another of my stupid examples. I have a confession to make: there’s a huge fan favourite that I don’t like, and it’s Littlefinger. His scenes always creep me out (unless there’s Varys too), which I guess is the intended effect, but it’s not pleasant. Aidan Gillen is awesome but I don’t know his other works and so I have no special attachment to the actor. Well, just imagine if I popped up in every Littlefinger lovefest with negative comments about him. Not to make any point, just because I don’t like him. Of course, the Blackfish-negativizers are several people and I can’t single out one of them, while in my example I’d be definitely a troll. But it would be unnerving for the Littlefinger fans. Now suppose that this happened while LF was in danger of being cut from the series, and I hope you can understand my violent reaction.

    Qthulhu:
    Blackfish Blues,
    I can’t speak for an explanation of “Blackfish whining” but I will say that if they had time enough to find a good lookalike extra for Maege Mormont then I have every confidence they’ll fit in a Blackfish one, and the less you see of a Blackfish extra the greater the chance of a Blackfish role.

    It’s not George’s show, but I imagine if you asked George nicely he could probably mention it to production “Hey we need an extra that looks like this standing next to Edmure”.

    I don’t recall seeing a Blackfish-a-like at our camp or Moat Cailin scenes which would make me believe there is a Blackfish “plan”. I would be verrrrrrrrry surprised if there was zero Blackfish this year because either he or Edmure would be a handy character to have appear and deliver (*very* late) his news regarding the Riverlands and all things Tully-shaped. If not this year, DEFINITELY next year.

    If Tullys are to be announced, you will be waiting until the end of August.
    [...]

    You’re another one of my heroes. OhWhoCares too. I have to make a list sometimes. :D I love this scenario, obviously. BTW, I loved the look of the Northern lords and I hope they keep the actors. The WiC casting page finally lists Rickard Karstark, but no word about who played Maege. I hope they add her to the page, she was awesome.

    andrea:
    Blackfish Blues, I see you´re angry and I´m sorry, don´t have the experiencie that you have in this kind of sites. You´re angry as a true italian!!! (although I don´t know if you are)and I understand that perfectly. I try to play with you with the name of the Blackfish fan site (don´t know if you saw it)because I rrrrreally like him, (reminds me of my father actually who I miss horribly) so I understand your anger and I agree with you on everything you said and the way you wrote it made me laugh, it was very witty, despite the anger. I enjoy it.Non essere arrabbiata per sempre. Il Pesce Nero é amato da molti altri!!! (my italian is pretty bad as my english).

    Thanks! I’m sorry about your dad, and I understand how Brynden can have that effect, especially in the way he treats Catelyn (always there for her, hugging her when all the others spurn her, taking her hand at her father’s funeral etc) Personally my feelings for him are anything but daughterly, but that’s yet another example of GRRM’s genius in depicting characters who mean so many different things to different people.

  96. Abyss
    Posted July 23, 2011 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Here is another full video of the panel. It’s not high-res like the one from ThinkHero but it has better sound:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmQzGKIEV2I

  97. Blackfish Blues
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 5:33 am | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues,
    Meep, I’m still moderated… I know I practically wrote Moby Dick and this post is quickly sliding down the line, but I’d like to know if I can maybe split it or something.

  98. clemintine
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 6:43 am | Permalink

    Eagle1: Chewing gum on stage, acting uninterested. Is it some sort of nervous defense mechanism for the fame that’s coming? He really needs to pick it up a notch. He’s about to be in the public eye much more in the coming months and years, and the whole “I’m a cool actor who is bored” thing will get tired fast. People, including me, love this guy. He needs to pound a few Red Bulls and smile a bunch more.

    Peter Dinklage doesn’t owe us anything, other than being an amazing Tyrion on screen. You want him to smile and preform for you all the time? Leave the guy be and let him be himself. If he’s not a naturally outgoing person, why should he change for us? It’s not like he’s being rude or disdainful of fans; I got the impression he was just very nervous (maybe tired and hungover) and perhaps uncomfortable in the limelight.

  99. purplejilly
    Posted July 24, 2011 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    clemintine,
    Yeah, I think Johhny Depp is sort of the same way – very low key, and withdrawn and offputting in interviews, completely different from his outlandish and charming Captain Jack character. I watched an ‘Inside the Actor’s Studio’ with him once, and couldn’t believe how introverted and withdrawn he was in ‘real’ life. Dinklage may be the same way.

  100. andrea
    Posted July 25, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: I understand how Brynden can have that effect, especially in the way he treats Catelyn (always there for her, hugging her when all the others spurn her, taking her hand at her father’s funeral etc)

    I´ve something to confess: I don´t like Catelyn very much. I was nervous every time she was about to do something. She was quite reckless I think and I blamed her more than once without mercy but all that I had thought ill of her made me appreciate the Blackfish even more. He´s surrounded by stupid, weak, dying or crazy (Lisa) people and still remains a rock of sanity and courage.
    Is most daughterly it´s true I can help it but there is something more about the Blackfish, maybe the silence and determination (or silent determination, like a rock)… it´s endearing to me …I don´t know. But, don´t worry, my father was the best of fathers and I remember him with joy.
    I hope you could understand something… I´m sure I wrote more than one sentence wrong.
    Well, now we´ve to gather the bloody REASONABLE fishies !!!

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