One more night of clues for us Europeans (translate to your time zone). Here’s what Martin has to say:
A Lighter Shade of PaleThrice nominated, once victorious. A double threat. He wrote the script for his own wedding. Has struggled against the Spider’s sort, taken on Santa, caught a tiger by his tail. Never reads the same book twice. Last seen dancing home.
Hear Me Roar: People are already guessing this could be for Roose Bolton! The clock is ticking … I’ll be checking back in the morning to see the results.
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David McCallum is our man…
Spaceman SpiffQuote Reply
This one’s tough! I’m still trying to figure out the role.
Maybe the title is the role. A Lighter Shade of Pale.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
copied from the last thread:
Michael McElhatton seems to fit the clues (at least some)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0568385/
Written the script for “Fergus’ Wedding” in which he plays Fergus,
His most recent credit on imdb is Shadow Dancer. has been in the tiger’s tail and so on
burthQuote Reply
Has to be Roose Bolton then.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
I don’t know, but Lighter Shade of Pale is like my favorite song.
Luke PalladinoQuote Reply
McElhatton was in the Santa Incident… makes perfect sense. And for pete’s sake he looks just like Roose Bolton.
BryGQuote Reply
McCallum: nominated for 3 Golden Globes, winner of one
Spaceman SpiffQuote Reply
McElhatton was twice nominated and one 1 ifta award for best actor. I think this is it.
durandalQuote Reply
I can’t access Livejournal. Someone pop on there and throw the name Michael McElhatton at George in the name of House Gatewatch!
Support the Bottom!
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_McElhatton
IFTA Award 2003, nominated for three, won one! Theres the winner!
FrankQuote Reply
burth,
Wow, dude is awesome. If he is Roose Bolton I will not complain for one second. Even if I wanted Roose to be James Frain..
jellydonutQuote Reply
Wow. Michael McElhatton works and looks a lot like Roose in my head.
paulgudeQuote Reply
haha i can’t believe that I finally might have gotten one first. I suppose the hundred times I didn’t manage to do it have prepared me well :D
burthQuote Reply
burth,
He fits well!
-3 nominations for best actor and 1 win.
-was in the Santa Incident = “taken on Santa”.
-last worked on Shadow Dancer = “last seen dancing home”
-Was Fergus in Fergus’ Wedding which he wrote= “wrote the script for his own wedding”
-was in The Tiger’s Tail = “caught a tiger by the tail”
darquemodeQuote Reply
Okay, I think you guys solved it even before I slipped into my PJ’s. Heck, even while I was still writing the post. McElhatton has great looks! FaB will take it from here ;)
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
Luke Palladino,
I’m not familiar with the song honestly, but many of the lyrics deal with islands, water, shores etc…. That made methink of Iron Islands and Balon….
Or across the Narrow Sea to Qarth and Pyat Pree like others suggested.
If it is Michael McElhatton I think he is Pyat Pree not Roose.
darquemodeQuote Reply
Michael McElhatton seems to fit a lot of clues for the actor, but what makes us think the part is Roose Bolton? I’m not sure, I think we need to have more connections for that one. What does never read the same book twice mean?
knowsomethingQuote Reply
For “the spider’s sort”, I was thinking eunuchs or little birds…
But this McElhatton guy was in a movie called “the actors”. Varys was an actor too.
LexQuote Reply
Amusing fact, the Santa “taken on” in the Santa Incident was our very own Old Bear, James Cosmo!
Loving this choice if it turns out to be correct. Just look at that face! Pure Roose.
SnarkQuote Reply
Also, could be Pyat Pree the warlock… he’s described as pale.
In fact, I think this is more likely than Roose Bolton, which is a big role. GRRM tends to announce the more minor ones, no?
LexQuote Reply
Weird, cause I was already thinking about how James Cosmo played Santa in the first Narnia film!
LexQuote Reply
Look at his IMDB picture, he is the perfect Roose Bolton. We are indeed missing some clues though. What about the spider, what about reading the same book twice?
YoenitQuote Reply
Wow, you guys are quick. I don’t know McElhatton’s work at all, but I shivered when I saw his face. It’s gotta be Roose.
darrylzeroQuote Reply
I agree :) Best argument ever. I guess the clues will be solved when I wake up tomorrow.
clemintineQuote Reply
knowsomething,
‘A lighter shade of Pale’ for one, and then there’s the actor looking like.. well, Roose.
jellydonutQuote Reply
A lighter shade of pale must refer to Roose Bolton’s pale eyes…right?
JohnnyDingoQuote Reply
Michael McElhatton may be great, but I don’t get how he looks like Roose Bolton. Isn’t Roose supposed to be kind of round and soft in the face, or even a little pudgy. Michael McElhatton looks gaunt.
JoelQuote Reply
The guy has a great look to him, and would fit a Roose in my head — but have we nailed if he’s Roose or Pyat Pree like Lex suggesgts? We’ve not fit the Pale part in, I think.
ConnieQuote Reply
Well, as I mentioned in the previous thread, McElhatton played with Conleth Hill (= the Spider) in theatre…
BlubluQuote Reply
Generally, but GRRM did announce the Brienne casting.
DuvallQuote Reply
He’d look great as Pyat Pree too. ADWD spoiler:
Are the Spider’s sort Targaryens (Dany)? That would be a pretty spoilery clue for GRRM, though. I dunno.
darrylzeroQuote Reply
I think he’s Pyat Pree…
But I still can’t fit the “never reads the same book twice” clue, and I’m not sure the dancing clue fits either (dancing HOME?).
LexQuote Reply
He was also with Conleth Hill in Perrier’s Bounty! Weird.
He also seems to have more of a comedy background, which makes me think he’s not Roose…
LexQuote Reply
Also, the song is “A Whiter Shade of Pale,” not a “lighter shade of pale.” I googled the phrase “never read the same book twice” for the heck of it, and I got a quote from someone called Edmund Wilson from his book “The Triple Thinkers.”
“In a sense, one can never read the book that the author originally wrote, and one can never read the same book twice.”
I have no idea if this adds anything to the conversation.
knowsomethingQuote Reply
Okay, it HAS to be him. He was in a stage production called “Little Malcom and His Struggle Against the Eunuchs“.
He’s definitely “struggled against the Spider’s sort”.
LexQuote Reply
I might just be getting mad but doesn’t Roose say something in the line of “I never read the same book twice” in ASOS? Arya or Jaime chapter.
durandalQuote Reply
Could it be Ser Mandon Moore? – He had pale grey eyes, flat and lifeless. Have we seen Ser Mandon?
ConnieQuote Reply
knowsomething,
Really random aside, but that just makes me think of the Red Wedding
I certainly couldn’t reread that book again the same way on re reads, knowing what was going to happen
Unspolier paraphrase, some of George’s stuff I can’t read, because I know the bad stuff that will happen and that changes how I see the books
Kenn SharpQuote Reply
In ACOK didn’t Roose burn a book after he read it?
StarkgirlQuote Reply
Bolton’s creepy pale eyes are frequently remarked upon. He’s also not supposed to be physically imposing, and I think this guy fits the bill.
Grrm this season announces the non-famous actors, whose scoops haven’t been promised to other media outlets.
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
Hi, Roose!
KGQuote Reply
Apparently, yes. I guess he probably IS Roose, and not Pyat Pree.
And it’s definitely this actor, the Eunuchs clue seals the deal IMO.
LexQuote Reply
Starkgirl,
Yes he did in ACoK Arya X.
NinepennyQuote Reply
I listened to some voice samples from voice overs he did for advertisements. He’s got a really deep, rich voice. I wonder if he’ll do the Roose whisper instead?
LexQuote Reply
D’OH! “Last seen dancing home”… Roose was last seen heading home towards the North, in A DANCE WITH DRAGONS.
LexQuote Reply
Yes, it does look like Roose burns a book, I think we’ve nailed it people.
knowsomethingQuote Reply
Michael McElhatton is both an actor and a screenwriter, i.e. a “double threat”.
He did write the script for a documentary called “The Brides of Franc” for Irish TV, which he narrates as himself. Not sure what, if anything, that has to do with his own wedding. Not even sure he’s married at all.
According to WikiPedia (FWTW), he did act in a play called “Little Malcolm and His Struggle Against the Eunuchs” for the Battersea Arts Center, i.e. the ilk of Varys “the Spider”.
On the other hand, McElhatton was nominated a total of 6 times for an IFTA award (3 x for acting in a TV production, 2 x for scripts and 1 x for acting in a movie). He did win for acting in a TV production once, but perhaps this is a shaky fit for the awards clue.
Nagga’s KinQuote Reply
Starkgirl,
I knew there was something with Roose and a book. :)
durandalQuote Reply
Here’s a clip from the sketch comedy Your Bad Self in which McElhatton has some stern and whispered lines.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1xxqPE4I4g
Jeremy HermanQuote Reply
The wedding clue has already been explained- he wrote and was in a piece called Fergus’s Wedding. Also, it’s not a shaky fit for the awards clue, it’s a good one- he’s been nominated three times for acting on TV and he won once. Every other clue fits him to an absolute tee, I don’t think there can any more doubt.
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
I think I’m right about the dancing clue, that it refers to ADWD.
LexQuote Reply
Even though that’s a comedy skit, he seems like a perfect Roose at the start. Very creepy and intimidating.
LexQuote Reply
Wow, he looks perfect for Roose. Hope it’s him.
furreverQuote Reply
I’m also gonna say he’s Roose, since on the show the Qartheen apparently aren’t pale anymore. Plus he looks way more like Roose to me.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
REALLY hope its this guy for Roose. He looks just like i imagined Roose to look like.
CharlesQuote Reply
I’m not familiar with him, but that clip–lol, I think he’s a fantastic choice. The eyes, the soft way of speaking in parts…welcome to the cast!
ZackQuote Reply
Personally I always imagined Robert Pugh as Roose Bolton. He fits GRRM’s description: Square face, slightly pudgy features, pale eyes, and otherwise bland, uniform features. He can do creepy.
Another favourite is Robert Patrick, even though he’s American. He used to be a thin dude (eg., Terminator 2), now he’s filled out a bit and aged nicely, and he has got really pale eyes. He also has that mean, penetrating, slightly sociopathic stare that fits Roose perfectly.
AlexQuote Reply
From Clash of Kings:
McElhatton is a bit gaunt, but I think he looks great for the part. Roose is supposed to be a very severe, austere man, and with all the leechings I could definitely see him looking gaunt.
George DWQuote Reply
I pictured Colm Feore as Roose bolton… well, Colm with a wig.
McElhatton was unknown to me before, but he has the perfect look for Roose in my mind. – Pale, long features to look gaunt, unimposing and he has a odd creepiness to him that is perfect for the Leech Lord!
darquemodeQuote Reply
man, I hope to play one of these days but you all are so quick!
dizzy_34Quote Reply
Cold hands perhaps (just as an alternative guess– although there are a number of reasons I’m realizing even now that would make that nonsensical, not the least of which is that I don’t think he appears until ASoS)?
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
If this guy is Roose, I think I’d quite like his look. Clearly can do rather cold eyes, and the fact that he otherwise just looks so… mundane. He could be very very creepy, partly because he doesn’t LOOK like Mr. Soulless killer.
KanaQuote Reply
Just give him a dark wig and he’ll be perfect.
Ashton LeeQuote Reply
Joel,
I believe you’re thinking of Ramsay Snow. He’s described in A Clash of Kings, Chapter 35, Bran, as having a fleshy appearance, with large, wormy lips and long hair.
MiraxQuote Reply
According to his spotlight page Michael McElhatton is a highly skilled fencer. Maybe he can use that for the role…
Here is his showreel, but the sound is awful.
AbyssQuote Reply
I wish some people would put spoiler tags in their posts. Some of us aren’t lucky enough to be reading ADWD yet you know. Saying things such as “character X in ADWD” one can assume that he/she’s still alive, yes? And that is a big enough spoiler for some (ehem, me!)
MoeQuote Reply
@Lex
Last season, GRRM announced most of the main cast through his clues. Remember “Sarah Connor” last year?
He had some real mind benders last time around. Either that or the viewing populace is getting enormously more agile.
Either way, McElhatton as Roose works for me. I always pictured him gaunt and pale, with piercing eyes. Halfway through ADwD, and Ramsay is really getting under my skin (tee hee).
…ryan
Ryan DunnQuote Reply
I guess I must have conflated Roose and Ramsay a bit. The pale eyes would be the nicest feature to get a match for.
JoelQuote Reply
Somehow I always picture Christopher Walken as Roose Bolton…
NotchoQuote Reply
Joel,
I pictured someone similar to Cillian Murphy as Ramsay ‘Bolton’ even though he’s not “fleshy” exactly. He really has the wormy lips and those cold, pale eyes as I imagined them.
http://www.cinetv.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/cillian_murphy03.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/49710093/Cillian+Murphy+cillianmurphy.jpg
darquemodeQuote Reply
Notcho,
Me too, but life isn’t always a bowl of cherries.^^ That being said, I like Michael McElhatton for the part.
AbyssQuote Reply
So Everyone is going to watch Perrier’s Bounty now right? Conleth Hill, Liam Cunningham and this guy.
*goes searching for her comment after TIFF saying “Nina Gold cast this, and at the Q &A they said they all work together a lot, I bet some get cast in Thrones*
Phoenix_TornQuote Reply
the IMDB pictures made me very nervous, because I also pictured him as a bit softer and less physically harsh and intimidating, but seeing a clip or two of him makes me very excited. I’m on board with this one, I think. Nina, don’t let us down!
Cat of the CanalsQuote Reply
darquemode,
Me too. I can’t get Cillian Murphy’s eyes out of my head (also watched a movie last week where he wore a dress for 90% of the time)
I’m getting a little scared. I clicked in the Shadow Dancer link on IMDB looked at the cast and said “Oh this must have been cast by Nina Gold” yep…
Phoenix_TornQuote Reply
Just on a side note…why are we still hung up on the actor matching the book’s description to the letter? Almost no one from the first season did, and it worked beautifully.
I fully expect that Ramsay won’t be fleshy, either. Are we gonna have fleshy-gate when that happens? (I actually picture Joe Campo as Ramsay when I read the books).
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Cat of the Canals,
But Roose Bolton isn’t harsh or intimidating. He’s nondescript with pale eyes and a kinda creepy, cold manner.
He shouldn’t scream “BAD GUY!!” when you first meet him but should be kinda unsettling. Not harsh, not intimidating.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Wow – I HOPE that’s Roose. It’s almost EXACTLY how I’ve pictured Roose in all my reads over the years. Awesome!!
In Nina we trust!!!
EdQuote Reply
Josh Parker,
LOL Joe Campo?! Like from “Get Joe On The Joe”? That’s hilarious. Now I’m going to think of Joe when I read of Ramsay. :P
SherritQuote Reply
Josh Parker,
Oh I agree, looks are the be-all-end-all of casting… and in some roles they are one of the least important aspects.
I do however feel that some characters looks feed into who they are as a “person” and their spirit. Brienne was one. They absolutely had to cast a tall woman. There are more than a few others where their stature is part of the role – Gregor The Mountain for sure and his brother Sandor to a lesser degree… etc.
Other characters are so average in appearance anyone can play them with a little help from the wardrobe, make-up and wig departments.
I’m not sure where the Boltons fall honestly. I think their personalities are the biggest casting issue. Roose can be “lightened” with make-up if need be and Ramsay doesn’t necessarily need to be fleshy, pale and have wormy lips. As long as the actor can pull off cruel and sadistic I think they could do the role – even if they did not fit the description.
That said, when I picture the characters as I read, I picture them how I visualize GRRM’s descriptions, so of course appearance plays into who I imagine in the role as I read. Honestly though, who’s to say I didn’t imagine a character polar opposite to how GRRM imagined him as he wrote.
Mr. Martin needs to confirm this already…. so we can move on to the next Froggy clue ! :)
darquemodeQuote Reply
Wow, if actually does turn out to be Michael McElhatton – this is pretty much the guy I visualized when I read the books. He has the perfect disposition for the role – and the eyes, oh the ice cold eyes. Brilliant casting choice.
The Lightning LordQuote Reply
I alredy hate him
Leonardo CruzQuote Reply
For anyone wondering the exact quote about Roose burning a book…
ACoK: Chapter 64 (excluding the prologue)/ Arya 10 – “[Roose]Bolton turned a few more pages with his finger, then closed the book and placed it carefully in the fire.”
It was bothering me and I had to go find it.
darquemodeQuote Reply
This is just ridiculous – Burth, you solved this one so fast that it isn’t even fun to read throught the ‘how did they get to it’ part! There is no such part! :-)
Looks like another solid casting for the second season – so far I’ve loved almost all of them, great work Nina! (although, of course, I reserve the right to complain on any single one of them when the second season airs…)
(Btw, thinking of the connection they have with Cunningham and McElhatton, it makes me foolishly hope that we will also get Brandan Gleeson and/or Cilian Murphy in Got, but surely they couldn’t… Or could they?)
Tar KidhoQuote Reply
grrrr…
Again the clue on the middle of the night. ;)
It has to be Bolton, though.
The_Rabbit01Quote Reply
Tar Kidho,
Bredan Gleeson as Mace Tyrell and Cillian Murphy as Ramsay Snow?
Yeah, I could deal with that! :)
Toss in James Purefoy as Oberyn Martell, Mance Rayder or Euron Greyjoy in Season 3 and it would cover all the “names” I have pictured in my head fo months.
darquemodeQuote Reply
Rhys Ifans for Roose! But yea… McElhatton will probably do fine. I just hope that don’t make him look like some vampire or something. They should keep in mind that he’s just an ordinary fella who likes his leeches.
PepiQuote Reply
darquemode,
I approve! And don’t forget David Wilmot who delivered such an impressive casting!
Him and me both…
Tar KidhoQuote Reply
Good news. I just woke up and found this, you people are so fast!
That guy is a perfect Roose, IMO. I already don’t like him (ehm :D)
naaaah, joe campo is mance rayder. LOL.
(speaking of mance rayder, am i the only one who is wondering how will D&D expand/”anticipate” jon’s storyline without casting mance, tormund, val and all the people in his early ASOS chapters?
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
I don’t think they’ll be there. Jon is taken to meet them after all the youknowwhat in the thingamajig and I don’t think we’ll get that far this season. It’s gunna end with Jon’s whatsit, I’m %100 sure. It’s just such a great cliffhanger!
Do you understand what I’m getting at here? :P
SherritQuote Reply
well, speaking of ironborns, I don’t know why they would put him in Season 2, but Rodrik Harlaw is called the Reader for a reason.
still, McElhatton seems a lot more like Bolton than Rodrik, in my mind.
Thiago SlashQuote Reply
Sherrit,
i am :D
LOL.
but since both D&D and KH were talking about jon’s “love interest” i thought they were going a little further this season. And also, both jon and dany’s storylines in ACOK are kinda slow, (lot of travelling, almost nothing happens) so IMO they have to expand them somehow. Dany’s expecially now that i think about it. She has something like 5 chapters in ACOK, doesn’t she?
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
*wails* missed clue and resolution again… Not fair on us sleepy Europeans!
But I am amazed by the speed of the solving, well done peeps
Porcupine TreeQuote Reply
Julian sands…
sarahQuote Reply
Whoa, what an intense face! He’ll be an amazing Roose. Though he challenges once more my spelling abilities.
LOL, I opened the thread and first thing I see is David McCallum’s name. I yelled. David is one of my favourite actors. As Hoster Tully he’d be heart-breakingly droll, totally different from how I see Hoster, but unforgettable.
sarah,
I’d love to see Julian Sands in there too. I see him as Arthur Dayne (older or younger depending on the time period) but at 53 he’d be a fine Blackfish. Physically different enough from both Ser Rodrik and the Greatjon, and able to convey both kindness and threat.
*holds candle*
Blackfish BluesQuote Reply
Isn’t it a rule marked down somewhere that Brendan Gleeson must be in every costume/historical and/or fantasy drama that gets produced? He was even in that animated Beowulf movie as my namesake ;-p
gods I hope he finds a way into this…
WyGlaafQuote Reply
Blackfish Blues,
sarah,
I thought of Julian Sands too both as Bolton and Dayne.
The pale eyes fit Bolton and he has that angular face that can look gaunt easily….
The coloring and upright demeanor fit Dayne quite well too, but since they removed the ToJ (at least so far) I’m not sure we will ever see The Sword of the Morning……..
In the end that might be a good thing. Sands is awesome in some roles and n others…. well, not so much.
darquemodeQuote Reply
WyGlaaf,
I vote Brendan Gleeson as one of the Astaporian Slavelords
SidQuote Reply
Well done guys!
If it were on looks alone I think this guy is great as Bolton. Very creepy (if that’s not insulting).
Jackie MacPhersonQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
I expect them to expand on the part about the wise men coming to Dany in the desert and leading her to Qarth.
MnemQuote Reply
I have a feeling they’ll probably add scenes of the wildlings without Jon’s eyes to give us a taste of what they’re up to, and to flesh them out/make them sympathetic leading up to Jon meeting them.
So did Mark Addey. With British actors, I don’t think doing mostly comedy means they have a restricted range.
clemintineQuote Reply
Lex,
He starred in stage version of ‘The Birds’ in Dublin’s Gate Theatre. Varys’s sort are his ‘little birds’.
ThebirdsQuote Reply
Ciaran Hinds?
A Tigers Tail the film as in clue
Tinker Tailer SOldier spy- spiders sort
EdQuote Reply
Lex,
Please please use spoiler tags.
I’m nearing the end of aDwD and I really didn’t need to know that.
ThokQuote Reply
Michael looks perfect. I’m holding out hope that Iwan Rheon might get cast as Ramsay after all as he totally could be this actors son!
Ser Lemon CakesQuote Reply
Phoenix_Torn,
And also Francis Magee, our Yoren.
GatzbyQuote Reply
What if he is Ramsey Snow and not Roose? Wouldn’t the “lighter shade of pale” lines make more sense then? Snow= lighter than other things that are not snow. Haha.
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
Hahah I could totally see that
Grazdan mo Graznak
Jordan HealeyQuote Reply
If George doesn’t respond by tonight, I guess everyone has to start over, concerning this clue.
tysnowQuote Reply
Thank you for that! I needed a good chuckle and your post did the trick! But beware! It won’t be long before we have ThingamajigGate!
LangkardQuote Reply
Well, I always saw Gabriel Byrne as Roose but this guy could work. More importantly, as someone else brought up, will someone PLEASE get Cillian Murphy on this show!?!?!? I suppose he makes the most sense as Ramsey (all though I think Ramsey is described as a big guy) I’d rather see him as more of a good guy though. He can be so heartbreaking and since he’s not playing Cinna in the Hunger Games like he should be (sorry Lenny Kravitz) he’s got time for this.
DanielleQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
I know that’s the role he wants, but he can’t seriously have ever thought he’d actually get it? Not only is the role fairly major, so they’ll want someone with a solid resume, but he’s also at least a decade (probably more like TWO) too young for Mance. Mance is a character where his age matters.
A couple of the faces he’s made in his videos have been kinda creepy, and put me in mind of the Boltons.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Wow, I think he’d be a great Roose Bolton! I’ve never heard of him before so I never would have thought of him for the role, but he definitely looks like he can pull off quiet, composed creepy. Funny that he’s been with Varys and Davos in other works. And while browsing his IMDB I saw he’s also worked with our new Dolorous Edd.
You guys solve them all so quickly!
And now…YGRITTE YGRITTE YGRITTE!!
LinaQuote Reply
As for the comments that GRRM only announces the small roles…that’s just simply not true.
For the first season a great number of major roles were clued by him, the only real exceptions being Dinklage, Addy, Bean, Harington, Gleeson and all those announced in the major casting announcement by HBO who hadn’t already been clued to us yet.
This season he’s given us clues for Brienne, hardly a minor role, and I don’t think anyone could suggest that he’s a more major role than Brienne.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
I am so looking forward to the Qhorin clue, when it happens. Qhorin is the role I am most excited for this season, outside of Jaqen. I guess I’ve got a thing for names with Q’s.
Ygritte will probably be next though.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
OhDanyBoy,
At the moment I can’t picture anyone other than Vladimir Kulich in that role, but I doubt that’s who we’ll get.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
John Malkovich
dstQuote Reply
Steve Hugh Westenra,
he looks a bit old to be Ramsay. Let’s see!
I don’t think Ciaràn Hinds is the answer, but I’d love to see him in the show. He fits the Blackfish age slot, though he has black eyes… but beggars can’t be choosers!
Blackfish BluesQuote Reply
Danielle,
I thought he would be a fabulous Roose a long time ago, with his crazy pale eyes, but maybe he’s too young,in that case he could be Ramsay..
purplejillyQuote Reply
So I guess I won’t hold out hope that Prince Humperdinck will play the role of Bolton.
ho5000Quote Reply
burth,
I agree with this.
2007 Nominated IFTA Award
2003 Won IFTA Award
2003 Nominated IFTA Award
The Santa Incident (TV movie)
The Spider (2011)
Catherine Henry-GreskovicQuote Reply
I think it’s for Balon Greyjoy….
You-know-nothingQuote Reply
wow, he could totally be roose bolton.. another good casting choice if you guys are right
spacepopeQuote Reply
purplejilly,
I think so. He’s scary in Red Eye, like sadistic scary even though he’s not a big guy. He just made cry so much in The Wind that Shakes the Barley & Sunshine that I would rather see him as a good guy. I just can’t think of a good fit for him other than Ramsay. He’s to old to play Quentyn and not tough enough looking to play Mance.
DanielleQuote Reply
You-know-nothing,
Based on what?
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Josh Parker,
The reference to the sea in ‘A Whiter Shade of Pale’ and also the fact that Balon is more prominent in Clash of Kings. Also, he looks like how i pictured Balon Greyjoy. I saw Roose Bolton with more/black hair. I might be looking into it too much and it probably is Roose Bolton but i think this McElhatton look like Balon.
You-know-nothingQuote Reply
You-know-nothing,
First of all, if he meant for us to be analyzing the song’s lyrics, he would have posted the lyrics, not the title. He meant for us to be thinking about pale and white, not islands.
Second, since a great majority of the actors from the first season wore wigs, what makes you think his current hairstyle is what they’re gonna stick with?
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Not that it needs to mean anything at all, but Michael McElhatton is registered under “Actor” for Roose Bolton on Wikipedia’s “List of characters in Game of Thrones:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Game_of_Thrones
Has someone been a bit premature in their speculation, or is this a now confirmed fact, I wonder….
IngridQuote Reply
Considering wikipedia lists GRRM’s clue post as source, it’s still just speculation.
Erik SjöströmQuote Reply
Josh Parker,
You’re probably right, along with everyone else :-P. It was just that when i saw Mcelhatton i instantly thought ‘Balon Greyjoy’.
Oh well, that means we still have an actor for Balon Greyjoy to come!!!
You-know-nothingQuote Reply
It’s obviously Len Lesser (Uncle Leo fro Seinfeld) as Stannis Baratheon.
Clues:
- “A Lighter Shade of Pale, Double Threat” : Procul Harem’s signature song is 44 years old. DOUBLE that and it’s 88, which is how old Uncle Leo is.
- “Thrice Nominated, Once Victorious” : Nominated three times for “Employee of the Month” during his time on Seinfeld, but only won once.
- “Wrote the script for his own wedding” : Played the part of “Peppy Miller” in the hit TV-series “Wedding Bells” and did uncredited rewrites on the script
- “Has Struggled against the Spider’s sort” : Was in “The Amazing Spider-Man” TV pilot
- “Taken on Santa” – Played “Rabbi Rosenbaum” in the seminal TV Series “Platypus Man.”
- “Caught a Tiger by his tail.” : Destroyed Tiger Woods in an unsanctioned cagefight last May in Thailand. I was there.
- “Never reads the same book twice.” : Played “The Greek” in “How I Spent my Summer Vacation.” It’s a well known fact that Greeks do NOT read the same book twice. Ever.
“Last seen dancing home.” – Hmmm, this one doesn’t really fit. Beats me. Maybe it’s not him.
davebQuote Reply
daveb,
He is dead. But nice try…. (not)
dimasQuote Reply
I’ve been hoping for Cillian Murphy as Ramsay ever since the show was announced – I’m glad to see the idea getting some love here! The eyes, the voice, the lips are perfect. He could certainly be made a bit more fleshy for the show. Of course the whole star actor for a non-leading role makes the whole thing rather far fetched.
maxlongstreetQuote Reply
Ingrid,
Ummm…that may have been me. But you’ll never prove it.
Hey, somebody put up Yara Greyjoy weeks before we got an official confirmation!
The guesses here are usually pretty right. If it was me, I don’t regret it.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
dimas,
So?
davebQuote Reply
ho5000,
Iocaine Powder! I’d stake my life on it!
purplejillyQuote Reply
daveb,
Just so you know, Stephen Dillane has already been confirmed to play Stannis Baratheon…
You-know-nothingQuote Reply
You-know-nothing,
We all know. Daveb’s post was clearly a joke. Like, mind-numbingly obviously a joke. Not a half-bad one either.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
GRRM confirmed!
Always support the bottom!
The RabbitQuote Reply
The Rabbit,
yeah!! we got roose!
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Not a clue. I’m crap at stuff like this. Sounds like other people have made real efforts to figure this out. Fair play to ye but I’m gonna wait till the actor is confirmed. As ye were, people!
BroQuote Reply
WiC does it again! Always Support the Bottom!
So who is left to be cast? Ygritte, Ramsay, Halfhand…
Phoenix_TornQuote Reply
WyGlaaf,
Sid,
Brendan Gleeson ?? ..Could we ever be so lucky ? The man approaches godhood in my mind. I already admired him for other roles..but I wept as I hadn’t wept for decades in a movie theatre when it came to his big scene in ” In Bruges “.
ObsidianQuote Reply
OhDanyBoy,
Thanks! I was losing all hope…
davebQuote Reply
I’m surprised there are still so many casting decisions to be made (i.e. Greyjoys, Tullys, Martells, Tyrells, Halfhand, Ramsey, Lorch, Ygritte, Mance Rayder, Thoros, Old Craster, Strong Belwas, etc..).
I suppose they’re starting with Stannis’s scenes first?
JustinQuote Reply
Phoenix_Torn,
Balon and Craster.
Reeds.
Ser Dontos.
Maybe Vargo.
The RabbitQuote Reply
Looks like we got our Roose
Now I want Burn Gorman as Ramsey
Kevin BrierleyQuote Reply
Kevin Brierley,
That would be interesting!
I hadn’t thought of him in the role since I always pictured Cillian Murphy, Gorman has that “wormy” lips thing for sure!
darquemodeQuote Reply
Nice instincts!
Sancho PanzaQuote Reply
Replying to myself:
What do you know! They just cast Pugh as Craster. That works, too.
AlexQuote Reply