At long last, here is the official confirmation about shooting locations for season two from HBO:
Two additional locations have been chosen for the second season of the HBO series, Game of Thrones. The production, based in Belfast, Northern Ireland, will shoot segments of the new season in Croatia and Iceland.
Croatian sites will serve as some of the Southern locations in the series while several scenes “beyond the Wall” will be shot in Iceland.
Hear Me Roar: Well, I only say at long last because by now we have figured everything out pretty much by ourselves. It’s good to have the official word on this! Malta out, Croatia and Iceland in, then. Hoping for some more announcements now that the summer is almost over.

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well, finally!
now… casting news? please?
EDIT: lol, i’m the first! the time zone worked for me this time ;D
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Nice having official info at last
Black LionQuote Reply
Yes, nice to get official confirmation.
We already know quite a bit about the plans for Croatia and Dubrovnik. So now I’m curious about when and where they plan to film in Iceland. Any Icelandic readers willing to support the bottom and do some asking around up there to see what you can uncover?
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Man I cannot wait. I am already starting to get that same anticipation I had for season 1 this time last year…
JPBronzeQuote Reply
My girlfriend *is* in Iceland these days! The problem is, she’s on a guided geological tour ending the 28th, so I’m afraid she won’t be able to snatch any pictures, unless the tour takes her to the right place at the right time and honestly, what are the odds? :/
Funny thing is, she’s been in Malta also, some years ago, so while watching season 1 she was like “Oh, here we ate lunch one day!”, so she’ll do the very same thing during season 2 apparently :D
Domenico BarbatoQuote Reply
HBO now answer some casting questions
WHO IN GODS NAME WILL PLAY BLACKFISH?
Is there enough actors that look like weasels to play the Freys?
Nimble DickQuote Reply
In an interview Kit mentioned that he would be filming in Iceland ‘late in the year.’ So I’m assuming it’ll be a while before they get there. Perhaps Iceland will only be used for his scenes when he goes off with Qhorin?
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Considering Kit already confirmed Iceland, it’s not much of a surprise. I’m figuring the traveling with Qhorin through the mountains will all be up there.
I just hope this isn’t going to drastically change the look for King’s Landing. But since we’ve never really seen that much of it to begin with, I’m sure they’ll make it work.
Meera, Jojen, Ygritte, etc. — where is everyone?!
KalasinQuote Reply
Beat me to it :)
KalasinQuote Reply
Didn’t he say sometime in August if I remember correctly?
Josh DesjardinsQuote Reply
Maybe they’ll go to Iceland straight after Croatia? Or would they film in Croatia and Iceland simultaneously? (I hope not, because then almost no one would be in Belfast for TitanCon. ;))
LisaQuote Reply
They will have cast everyone by now.
Malcolm CarterQuote Reply
He said late in the year.
Why? There are definitely people they don’t need yet.
KalasinQuote Reply
Everyone that will add to the story the most, and create response.
People like Balon, Pod, Ygritte, Ramsay Snow will have been cast.
Malcolm CarterQuote Reply
Off topic, but I saw this lovely fanart of Sansa/Sophie on deviantART this morning, and I really wanted to share it with everybody. I’ve started noticing more and more ASoIaF artwork floating around these days. It makes me happy. ^_^
Lauren HitchcockQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
Rabbit might know. Yes, I do mean about Iceland.
QthulhuQuote Reply
I think what Kalasin means is that they don’t yet need everyone for filming. A number of the people you just mentioned are barely in the series, especially when only considering book two, so there is plenty they could film with the actors they already have before finalizing the casting of everyone. They don’t necessarily need to have cast everyone yet.
Delta1212Quote Reply
Delta1212,
I meant everyone they needed for this series. Filming is well under way, and they’ll probably announce them soon enough.
Delta1212,
Malcolm CarterQuote Reply
If I was working for HBO, I would do everything in my power to cast Blackfish and then keep it a secret until the guy shows up on screen that evening JUST to get a delighted OMG THEY CAST HIM reaction from the fans. Hahahah.
ConnieQuote Reply
We are 95% certain that the Blackfish is cut from season two. GRRM stated recently that he had seen every season two audition and none were for the Blackfish. So either they cast the role without auditioning (highly unlikely) or he is out. Only hope for season two is a last-minute rewrite and cast.
Not necessarily. It all depends on when they need them for filming.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Just one correction for your previous posts as I am here in Dubrovnik and I will go to a casting tomorrow. The local production company is Embassy Films, not jadran films as you said earlier. Embassy Films is known in Croatia for doing couple of episodes of Dr.Who here in Croatia.
rade334Quote Reply
Yeah, some in particular they definitely don’t need yet, specifically Ramsay and Ygritte. Ygritte won’t come up until near the end of filming. The rumor is they have been reading Ygrittes over the past few weeks, so they are in the casting process for her but may not be done yet. They may even be having final choices read with Kit, so they have to work around his filming schedule.
If they’re filming Iron Islands they definitely don’t need Ramseys at the moment.
I don’t remember when Meera and Jojen enter the story but that’s probably also something that can be put off.
I see Pod as expendible or combinable with other characters. Not sure he’s going to make it.
Balon probably HAS been cast.
I wasn’t involved in the rumor mill last year, but I’m pretty sure characters who weren’t needed until later in the filming often got cast later in the process. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong.
KalasinQuote Reply
We know they’re auditioning for Balon. We also know Dontos Hollard has been cast.
RELEASE THE NAMES, HBO!! GIVE US THE FULL CAST!
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Kalasin,
Movies and TV series are never filmed in “order”, so some of your assertions are probably wrong.
hav_Quote Reply
Lauren Hitchcock,
Ooh, it is gorgeous!
Back on topic, WHERE ARE THE TULLYS. ANY TULLY AT ALL.
EleanorQuote Reply
I think Pod will make it because of what happens with him and Brienne, and also his fate hasn’t entirely been decided in the books.
I reckon you’re right about Ygritte and Ramsay though. Salladhor Saan?
Malcolm CarterQuote Reply
I actually used to work in film so I know how it works. Television is slightly different because they need to get early episodes edited/looped/graphic-ed before the later ones, so for a season of episodes they generally go roughly in order, subject to location/actor availability. Even though in this case they will have technically finished filming the entire season before it airs, my understanding was that they filmed season 1 roughly in order and indications have been that season 2 will probably be similar.
Regardless, they clearly haven’t cast all the rolls yet, and are not filming those characters’ scenes until later.
KalasinQuote Reply
Kalasin,
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Production_timeline#cite_note-180
So, no, they don’t shoot in order.
hav_Quote Reply
hav_,
They definitely shot in some sort of order. Not individual scenes and episodes, but they filmed in relative blocks, likely grouped by the directors and/or locations, which seemed to go in order for the most part. At the very least, the first half of the season was definitely filmed before the second half of the season, and we know scenes from the last few episodes were filmed towards the end of filming (dragons, Whispering Woods, Ned execution).
ChrisQuote Reply
The info on that website is really sketchy, but if you look at the whole thing it’s pretty apparent that for the most part they DID shoot roughly in order. OBVIOUSLY scenes from here and there got moved due to location issues and casting availability – I think I made that clear in my initial post. Anything in Malta was filmed as compactly as possible, for example. But most of the (very few) things running through that timeline seemed to be chronological. I think the cast and/or production team has also commented on how they went roughly in order, which is primarily what I was relying on anyway.
Also, of the stuff we know they’re filming now, it’s all pretty early stuff. Iron Islands, burning of the seven, Arya on the road, etc.
KalasinQuote Reply
Here’s how it stands. We know the following have been or are being cast:
Rorge (either the featured extra or a new actor, but they wouldn’t bother showing him if they weren’t including him)
Biter (either the featured extra or a new actor, but they wouldn’t bother showing him if they weren’t including him)
Ser Dontos Hollard
Lord Balon Greyjoy
Ygritte
I’ll be VERY surprised if the following are not cast for THIS SEASON:
Edmure Tully
Lord Hoster Tully
Aeron “Damphair” Greyjoy
Pyatt Pree (We got Xaro and Quaithe, why not him?)
Ramsay Snow
Lord Mace Tyrell
Ser Osmund Kettleblack
Qhorin Halfhand
Rattleshirt
Strong Belwas
These people will likely be cast, even if it’s only as featured extras:
Lady Selyse Florent (because her role grows later)
Shireen Baratheon (because she’s a plot point in ADwD)
Patchface
Olyvar Frey (He was mentioned by name, so it’s likely)
Podrick Payne (I think he’s necessary for the AFfC Brienne POV’s)
Alayaya (A pretty important plot point hinges on her, and she can’t be replaced by Ros since Littlefinger employs her)
These people are likely to get pushed to next season (or future seasons in general), but it’s not impossible they’ll get cast this season, and they have to get cast eventually, assuming we get as far as the last book:
Lord Captain Victarion Greyjoy
Lord Wyman Manderly
Lord Vargo Hoat
Qyburn
And finally, these people’s fates are just up in the air. No telling what, if anything, will happen to:
Jojen Reed
Meera Reed
Salladhor Saan
Ser Jacelyn Bywater
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Regarding the Damphair, it sounds like he won’t be in this season.
Reports from the set indicated that Theon does encounter a priest of the Drowned God in one scene, and the assumption was that this was Aeron. But now I’m being told by other inside sources that this is NOT Aeron. I have to imagine if they have an unnamed character taking the place of Aeron, than that means that he has been cut or pushed back to a later season.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Winter is coming…
MorlunQuote Reply
I’m not totally convinced this is true, but maybe I need to re-read. Also, maybe this is who that new made-up Lannister guy will be (although some think he’s supposed to be Cleos Frey).
I just don’t see how Bran’s story happens without Jojen at the least.
KalasinQuote Reply
Right, but once again, they have six months of filming to do and a lot of characters are only needed for a few scenes during that time period, even relatively “major” characters like Ygritte, which means that they have time to cast them after filming is already underway because there is plenty of material that can be filmed without them first. They don’t necessarily need to have everyone cast already just because they’ve started filming.
It’s very likely that they’ve cast several people who haven’t been announced yet, but I also wouldn’t be remotely surprised to find a fair number of season two characters who have yet to be finalized.
Delta1212Quote Reply
Although I’m very happy that they’re coming to my beloved homeland, I find it a bit puzzling that they’re using it to film scenes north of the Wall since there are no proper forrests here in Iceland… It will be interesting to hear about the exact locations.
RipleyQuote Reply
I think they’ll just use Iceland for the Frostfangs, so they wouldn’t necessarily need a forest, only mountains and snow.
LisaQuote Reply
Ripley, the rumor/speculation is they will be filming in the mountains for the scenes in the Frostfangs. The forest stuff will still be shot in Northern Ireland.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Kalasin,
That’s from you, and that’s what I think is wrong.
The scenes behind the wall are supposed to be filmed in Iceland, if I’m not mistaken ? Therefore, they’ll probably try to film all of those scenes in one block, and it’s probably unlikely that Ygritte’s scenes will be shot “near the end of filming”.
hav_Quote Reply
I think most people are thinking they will use it for Jon/Qhorin mountain climbing scenes. I don’t know much about Iceland – do you have icy mountain passes and cliffs? That could work really well for those scenes.
KalasinQuote Reply
Well, Kit said they were going up there late in the year, so that’s near the end of filming. Which is also what I was basing the Ygritte comment on.
KalasinQuote Reply
One could never guess since it is hot as hell… I am more excited about the fall meself since that is when they are gonna be filming the GoT, with me there, in the background, watching, stalking out Danny to get her phone number…
Aaah ’tis gonna be bloody awesome!! :)
Andrija Andrew PQuote Reply
Kalasin: Well, Kit said they were going up there late in the year, so that’s near the end of filming. Which is also what I was basing the Ygritte comment on.
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Ah ok… thanks for the replies, there are certainly plenty of mountains here :)
RipleyQuote Reply
Very excited about Iceland. If anyone wants to see some great Icelandic scenery, check out “Beowulf & Grendel” starring Gerard Butler and Rory “The Hound” McCann!
As for casting… does anyone know if CONAN STEVENS is appearing this season? It doesn’t sound like it, based on the fact that he’s working on the Hobbit and just got signed for Season 2 of Spartacus.
EDIT: Conan’s blog says he just finished filming on Spartacus, so maybe there’s still a chance…
LexQuote Reply
:).
If they’re smart and able, they’ll have their top choices read with Kit, but they may not be able to schedule it in. I’m sure we’ll hear about her soon, since we know people have been auditioning. But they can’t go to Iceland until they have Qhorin anyway! Plenty to do in Belfast, though. Villages, Craster, Fist.
KalasinQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
I’m betting that’s just pushed back because really all Aaron did in ACOK was pour water on Theon’s head and escort him to the castle. No real need to cast someone for that.
dizzy_34Quote Reply
I think what it is for me is that the longer we go without casting news the more I worry that these characters won’t be included. I’m sure I’m not alone.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
Josh Parker,
I feel the same way, about certain characters.
For example, I’m not really worried, but it is concerning that we haven’t gotten a Jojen or Meera yet, since they arrive in Winterfell fairly early on (Chapter 22 out of 70) in the book.
However, I’m not worried at all that we haven’t heard about Ygritte or Qhorin yet, since they don’t appear until chapters 52 and 44 respectively.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
Ygritte’s been confirmed and several girls have confirmed that they’re auditioning for her. Not sure about the others, but as I said above, I can’t see how they cut Jojen, and long term Meera seems like she will be important too. I suppose Qhorin could go (maybe Mormont could send them out and tell them if they’re captured to go undercover? And then Jon could just have to kill, you know, some other night’s watch guy?), but what’s the point?
KalasinQuote Reply
hav_,
actually, he’s probably right. I remember Tywin and Rickon being cast quite late last year – because they weren’t need for the scenes they were filming in the first months
EDIT:
kit said they’re filming “later in the year” which means october/november i guess…
Also, i bet they’re giving more space to ygritte.
1)jon’s storyline in clash (like dany’s) is quite slow. It would look really boring on a tv show. I’m expecting random wildling attacks as the story goes on.
2)kit also said (at cominc con) something about jon and a love interest. Yeah, they’re definitively going to expand ygritte’s role
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
OhDanyBoy,
True, Meera and Jojen appear fairly early on, but they won’t be in many scenes. There’s still time to cast them and film those scenes later on. They haven’t been confirmed as being included this season though. I guess its possible the storyline could be shifted to wait to include them next season or the characters could be combined
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Lauren Hitchcock,
Ah, really nice fan art. Thanks for sharing.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Our local newspapers just wrote about who is coming to Dubrovnik, and besides Lena Headey, Michelle Farley, Emilia Clarke, they also mention Kit Harington…
Is there any reason why Jon Snow should be in Dubrovnik, or could this be some kind of mistake?
Melita SmolkoQuote Reply
Melita Smolko,
Strange.. I would think it’s a mistake
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Melita Smolko,
Maybe the Night’s Watch decided that it’s too cold beyond the Wall, called it a day and went someplace warmer. ;)
But I think it’s a mistake.
LisaQuote Reply
IMO it’s all up in the air. TV Rickon is a different, more important character than in the book, so they could possibly (to my dismay) write the Reeds in much later as in season 3. The Reeds could be necessary to the plot later, or not. Only GRRM knows, though maybe he doesn’t. (I haven’t read Dance.)
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Definitely a mistake. Why is Michelle Farley there? What else is being filmed besides Kings Landing/Quarth? Maybe Renly’s camps?
I’m a bit confused about locations anyway, because based on twitter, Sansa, Loras, Theon, Hodor and Bran are all in the same location right now. Nearly positive Sophie Turner would be in Croatia and Alfie Allen and Isaac Hempstead Wright would be in Belfast.
Maybe I’m overthinking.
KalasinQuote Reply
Huh? TV Rickon barely registered for non-book readers. He’s got at LEAST as much to do in the book.
I don’t see how the Reeds can possibly be introduced in season 3.
KalasinQuote Reply
Kalasin,
Well, according to the reports, shooting in Croatia won’t start until mid-September, so Sophie can be in Belfast and film some scenes there. Indoor stuff or something.
And maybe the newspaper just threw some names in without really knowing if they were actually going to be there.
LisaQuote Reply
Yeah, well if Kings Landing is in Croatia she’ll definitely be there eventually, but I guess some interiors could be in Belfast. Maybe they’re still doing fittings/rehearsals, but usually that’s more on-site.
Oh well. Who knows.
KalasinQuote Reply
Rickon barely registered for book readers too (even less). Regardless of what polls you’ve been running with your non-reader friends, Rickon is hugely different. I really like the Reeds, but IMO they are distracting. Their people’s history, and their magical-ness become duds as the books progress, and could be cut out IMO.
The little fellowship that originally included Bran, Hodor and the Reeds could be re-written to now include Rickon and Osha but have the Reeds cut out. To me it seems obvious. If they write in the Reeds, it will be a disappointment: There’s no way they can do the Reeds justice considering the time constraints.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
I agree with Kalasin in regards to Rickon. I don’t think he’s any more important in the show. Maybe they could introduce the Reeds after Bran, Rickon, Hodor, and Osha escape from Winterfell? Have them meet while traveling? Jojen could have a green dream about finding them?Far fetched, I know, but I think they could find a way to introduce them next season
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
This is true, but Rickon’s departure from the group with Osha becomes important later, and Bran would not know to journey north of the wall without Jojen’s green dreams and guidance. Osha would take them South.
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
It would be easier and less confusing to keep Osha and Rickon with the group rather than split and join up later. The Reeds are Bombadils.
I’m pretty sure about this speculation but mostly it’s because I don’t want the show to spoil the Reeds; even GRRM barely scratched their surface even though they were so cool when introduced. As the story progressed, I just felt they were not necessarily. Since Rickon can ‘see dead people’ now, he’s the new Jojen.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
It would be easier and less confusing initially, but like I said, the split later becomes significant.
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
If you are right, that whatever happens in Dance is so significant that they can’t cut out the Reeds, then I should prepare myself to be accepting of more cardboard characters in season 2.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
And PS, I don’t know why ppl want the Blackfish to be in so much since even if he will be, it won’t be more substancial than a useless cameo.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
The split becomes important, as others have said – Bran needs to be where he goes and Rickon needs to be where he goes. And Bran’s path is completely dictated by Jojen. As I said, I don’t see how he can be cut. They don’t need to get into as much detail, though. I’m sure the history will be gone. But I think they’re also probably important for the future, as they set up their dad (who may be critical from an information standpoint) and Meera is obviously a potential love interest for Bran.
Re Rickon, I’m sorry, I honestly don’t see Rickon as different at all. The exact same things that happen in the book with him happen in the show, except that in the book MORE happens. What are you referring to, in particular?
KalasinQuote Reply
This I agree on. I completely don’t get the Blackfish obsession.
KalasinQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
They could probably still replace/cut the Reeds or rewrite it in some way where they aren’t necessary, but not by having Osha and Rickon go with them, because of later storylines AND because (imo) it would not be very believable for Osha to go back north
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
If more happens around Rickon or to his development in the book, it has completely escaped me. The main idea that I got from the book is that Rickon was growing as wild and violent as his untrained dog. The show doesn’t take that angle. Instead, we see a sad child who gets visits from recently dead family members.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Kalasin,
Agree with you on the Reeds being important on an information standpoint.. I think Howland is the only hope we have of finding out who Jon’s parents truly are.
And yeah, the Blackfish is cool, and could easily be included in the show, but I don’t see him as being too important.. But I guess that could change
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Kalasin,
okay, it looks like i’m missing a lot of things. I’m joining twitter (is that the right word? whatever) right now.. can someone please tell me which members of the GoT cast are on twitter?
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
Loads. Here’s a link to a list on the GoT twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/GameOfThrones/cast-crew/members
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
thanks!
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
No worries! If you look around a bit you can find more
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
That’s the problem. Without the history, green dreams is awful. Without understanding the old gods and the first people, it is all very silly.
But something HBO viewers can understand without any background is a little Rickon who says “I see dead people” and that is what the new Rickon promises to deliver.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
We already know that they shot some of the Dragonstone scenes and they are shooting the pyke stuff with Theon. it also seems that Maisie Williams is shooting something (at least that’s what i gathered from her twitter).
Mirri MazQuote Reply
Yes, the show skips that angle, which is the main thing that it cuts. It doesn’t add anything though. The scene in the crypts with Rickon and Shaggydog hanging out does happen in the books, plus they have a conversation with Maester Luwin about Bran and Rickon both having had images/dreams of their dead father (I’m paraphrasing because I don’t remember all the details). So everything from the show is in the books, PLUS we get more with Shaggydog and his connection to Rickon’s damaged psyche.
Elena Amici,
A bunch are on (see OhWhoCares) but I honestly only follow a few (really just Finn Jones and John Bradley West, who hasn’t tweeted in ages). Most of what I get really is from WiC re-tweets, so follow them on twitter :) If actors/auditioners tweet any info, usually it gets re-posted.
KalasinQuote Reply
Yeah, I finally joined twitter mostly so I could follow GOT news. Isaac/Bran and Kristian/Hodor have both replied to my tweet! :)
LexQuote Reply
I agree that it’s richer with the history, and shows always make things thinner in that way, but I think they could set forth a pretty quick mysticism for the Reeds that will explain it. Honestly, I think they’re already going to have a hard time with all the cuts they made to Bran’s dreams in season 1, and I have NO idea how they are going to work the warging thing in, so we’ll just have to wait and see how it all ties together. But again, Bran has no path without Jojen.
And as I said in my last post, “I see dead people” is not a show addition.
KalasinQuote Reply
Kalasin,
Well let’s just say that the magical-ness is now shared between Bran and Rickon, while before it was just Brann. The focus is hugely different. Rickon was so marginal, so trivial, maybe he was going to come back in 5 years and be a nuisance to the Stark cause; it’s hard to tell what GRRM wanted out of him, but you can tell he didn’t want to talk too much about him. Any Ed visitations in the book is more about the Starks than it is about Rickon–in the show it’s definitely about Rickon. There’s definitely a shift–Rickon is more important than he used to be; his conversation in the crypts with Bran is proof. And Osha has changed considerably (for the better imo). To me it all smells of prep-work for a departure from the original story.
I hope they cut the Reeds because I am doubtful any good can come out of their existence in the show. After re-evaluating from this thread, it seems like Meera has a better chance of not being deleted. Jojen though… I’m not feeling it.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
I believe they can most certainly combine the Reeds into Meera alone and give her the green dreams. But I don’t think Rickon is any more important in the show than the book. He is, however, important in both, and, I repeat, it is important he stay south of the wall.
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Don’t know if it fits any of the scenes, but Dimmuborgir is a cool place in Iceland. Volcanic rock formations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimmuborgir
Also, there is forest in Iceland as well, if the need be for them to film forest scenes, for example Vaglaskógur forest. http://www.visitnortheasticeland.is/local-pearls-and-attractions/vaglaskogur/
There’s probably a lot more interesting places to be found there.
David DufwekeQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
So they travel together and split near the wall, half the group has a little adventure north of the wall and they rejoin later. The show can’t drop Rickon like the books do.
I would be disappointed to see Meera get supernatural (on top of the two Stark brothers, magical people start to crowd up the place).
Maybe I should read Dance after all….
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
I guess I just still don’t get it. Rickon has the exact same conversation in the crypt in the books, so I don’t know what the shift is. He definitely has a premonition of Ned in the books, and he is definitely connected to his wolf. Bran also has the premonition. And they are both Starks.
It’s just like in the book! I am so confused about what you think is different!
KalasinQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
I think they will show Osha and Rickon’s journey. Or should. And I kind of agree with you about the magical people thing, but I think the green dreams are kind of important in getting Bran where he gets too
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Kalasin,
Think of the time available for all the characters in the book, and how only a tiny fraction of that time was given to the characters in the show. At the very least, the producers gave a relatively huge focus to Rickon because without it, the audience would probably not understand that Rickon is a Stark sibling.
Now that they gave Rickon that huge relative focus, they can’t drop him like in the books. And TV Osha, compared to the books, also has a relatively greater focus–they even renamed Asha for whatever is going to happen next in the show.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Kalasin,
I’m confused too. It’s definitely implied in the books that all the starks have a supernatural connection with their wolves and rickon and bran have the same dream about ned in the book and show.
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
I think so too. But due to time constraints, they have to write them in with the very similar journey of Bran and his crew (at least near the wall). Whether they keep the Reeds or not is the mystery. I don’t know why they wouldn’t have cast them yet at this point though. And, since the Reeds are so different from the rest of the people in Westeros, I just don’t think it’s a good idea to have them in the show. Because the show is only 10 episodes long.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
Rickon is more important in the show?? He didn’t even get a LINE until Episode 8. Most new viewers barely even knew he existed.
LexQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
Can you elaborate on why you think their being different from the other people of Westeros is a reason to exclude them?
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
I guess we’re going to have to agree to disagree on what constitutes a relatively huge focus. Like all the characters, they cut a lot of his stuff and kept some in. He’s not completely dropped in the books – you have to read Dance. It is definitely setting that story up to come back in the future. I don’t really see any need to do things differently in the show. I do agree that they used Osha a bit more, but it wasn’t a HUGE change. I think it was just to set up season 2. I don’t think it means we have to follow Osha and Rickon on the road. I think they can drop him exactly the same amount. But that’s just my opinion.
KalasinQuote Reply
Kalasin,
I think they may follow osha and rickon to an extent, especially now that its been said where he goes.. and why cast natalia tena and not use her?
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
Suspension of disbelief. The show is fantasy. Something that helps readers believe fantasy is either future technology or ancient myth/history. The Reeds point to ancient history and a power tied to old gods of the land, older than the 7, etc. They have an aura of mystery and link to the land that is what makes them interesting. If they skip a nice history lesson on the show as to who the Reeds are, why they are Green (as Mel is Red) then the show will stop looking like a gritty fantasy and more like a fanciful fantasy… people won’t get it and the whole thing would be silly.
Just a thought.
Epic AwesomesauceQuote Reply
Well than GRRM will have to tell TPTB what happens to them, because that may be important in future books. We may find out that during ASoS, AFfC and DwD things were happening in their journey that affect things later on.
I just don’t see them having time. ASoS is so overpacked already.
KalasinQuote Reply
Epic Awesomesauce,
Yeah I can understand your concern there. And maybe you’re right about Rickon and Osha, but I think its been stated that SoS will likely be two seasons long, so they could include them in a few episodes somewhere getting where they get
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
That link isn’t working for me
OhWhoCares,
Jim CrossQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
Kalasin,
Epic Awesomesauce,
If they show Rickon and Osha’s journey (or part of it) I will be disappointed. When reading Dance, that was a HUGE thing for me, since most of Dance wasn’t that interesting. You know, the excitement of Rickon finally having a purpose. But then again, if they get the show that far (to Dance), that’s like four seasons of not knowing what happened to him; literally four seasons of watchers going “wasn’t there another kid?” But it just sort of ruins the mystery of the whole plot line.
You’re right though, Osha is played by an up and coming actress and seeing where they go to might be interesting in itself too. Just with all the other material…I don’t know.
I really don’t know what their going to do with that. But there’s no doubt in my mind that the Reeds are staying. They’ve been essential to Bran’s growth and training, and I’m sure they’ll keep having an impact later on. Afterall, Jojen has visions. Who knows what he might see in the future? George has warned them about the butterfly effect, and they already screwed up once (with Mago).
The InstrumentalistQuote Reply
The Instrumentalist,
I definitely understand what you mean about the mystery of it, but like you said, it would be kind of confusing to just cut him out. I think maybe have them part from the others a little later.. assuming we get 2 seasons for SoS, late in the first season. Then in the second, possibly an episode of them on the road to remind us of them, and then see them get there at the end of the second season. FFC and DwD are simultaneous, so they will run together, so in the next season we’d see that story line pick up, and I think it would kind of make sense to show it that way. I hope this was coherent, haha
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Jim Cross,
The twitter link? I’ll copy it again, it should work fine, but if you can’t get to it that way, you can find it by going to the official game of thrones twitter (@GameOfThrones), clicking the ‘Lists’ tab, and then @GameOfThrones/cast-crew.
http://twitter.com/#!/GameOfThrones/cast-crew
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Nice to get an oficial confirmation. Congrats to Iceland and Croatia, and I’m sure they will make for some spectacular filming locations!
By the way, against my better judgment and a lot of advice to the contrary, I went to see the new “Conan The Barbarian”. I went mainly to support Jason Momoa, and out of gratitude for the great job he did as Khal Drogo on “Game Of Thrones”.
All I can say is…ouch! I DO NOT blame Jason for this absolute sub-par crapfest! The blame lies on Marcus Nispel and his apparently talent challenged team! Can somebody please force them to drink a cyanide coctail and prevent them from directing/making any other movies?
loco73Quote Reply
LOL! I posted the exact same info. a ways back when it first was rumored about a possible Iceland shoot! I saw that film at the Palm Springs Film Festival several years back and thought the cinematography was fabulous! Well at least you got one response to your post (me!). When I posted about that film all I got was a big fat “zero” (which I’m use to since I’m usually ignored here whenever I do post)!
Sean FanQuote Reply
Iceland?!
Where do I sign up for a mini role? :D
TomasQuote Reply
Sean Fan,
I’m going to check out the movie, and not ignore you :)
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Pretty sure this just means they are all in Belfast. They are definitely keeping the Throne Room and Small Council interior sets at the Paint Hall, and almost certainly most of the other KL interiors will be shot there. Same with the Winterfell interiors, which explains Bran and Hodor and possibly Theon. Another possibility is they have created a Pyke interior set at the Paint Hall. Not positive why Loras would be there, except that the Bitterbridge scenes will probably be shot near Belfast. (maybe an interior of Renly’s pavilion at Paint Hall?)
the goatQuote Reply
Well thank you! Great little indy film that had a very limited release. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Iceland is beautiful and I got to meet the director who was thrilled to have been able to promote/represent his home country to the film viewers.
Sean FanQuote Reply
Sean Fan,
Very cool. I wonder if it’d be difficult to find
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Kalasin,
They could possibly get rid of Jon killing Qhorin and still keep it vital. Having Jon kill Halfhand could be replaced by Jon finding Benjen having to kill him would still have depth and meaning and be an even stronger scene in theory. That is assuming Benjen doesn’t have a reappearance and role to play in the later books or has not already reappeared as Coldhands.
darquemodeQuote Reply
I want to read all the comments but there are just too many spoilers for ADWD (even mere speculation).
Thanks a lot guys. /sarcasm
MoeQuote Reply
Moe,
I tried to black out all of my spoilers even if they weren’t really spoilers… And the whole conversation took place with someone who hasn’t even read DwD.
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Mention of Beowulf and Grendel has me wondering if they’ll get any ” wildlings ” up on Icelandic ponies. I’d love to see the little guys get another star turn.
ObsidianQuote Reply
darquemode,
Benjen’s probably that dude hanging out with Bloodraven so that wouldn’t make any sense. Just hire some regular actors. Qhorin’s gonna be in like two or three episodes tops so they aren’t going to be paying out a lot of money. They’d have to pay the dude playing Benjen and he probably costs more, so…no reason to change the plot.
BaramosQuote Reply
I don’t see how they can cut the Reeds without completely gutting Bran’s storyline. Yeah, the Reeds are more fantastical than a lot of other people in the series, but that’s about the only people that are. This is after all, you know, a fantasy. How would Bran find out about greenseeing or warging or getting beyond the Wall
I’ll be seriously disappointed if they cut the Reeds altogether.
knowsomethingQuote Reply
knowsomething,
I agree, all this talk of cutting the Reeds is a little upsetting. I’m fairly certain that they’ll be included.
Question! How do i block out what im saying to avoid spoilers?
You-know-nothingQuote Reply
darquemode,
you know, i guess you could be right.
i used to think the same, because
(CLASH SPOILERS under the tags)
1)the NW finding benjen could improve the storyline. As i said a lot of times, Jon’s arc in Clash is like “wandering-wandering-whitethree-wandering-craster’s-wandering-the end”. It’s just impossible to film something like this. They are definitively going to add something more to that storyline. My guess was a few squabbles with the free folk (thus giving more space to ygritte and/or rattleshirt) but finding benjen could work. (and, IMO, would be easier/cheaper to film)
2)merging benjen with the halfhand would also work better in the show. The viewers have already seen benjen, they know who he is and the know what kind of relationship he & jon have. This would make the final scene more powerful and heartbreaking
3)About benjen’s future role in the books: SPOILER FOR STORM
Even assuming that benjen is coldhands, all we need is benjen being dead and beyond the wall. The way he died doesn’t matter. That would make Ygritte’s advice to jon in clash “burn them or they will rise again” more powerful, showing benjen who “rises again” after jon kills him. Since my guess is that the last episode will end with the battle at the first, showing more wights / HBOthers in the same episode would be cool.
Since we know (very minor dance spoiler) that a man can come back as a wight even if he wasn’t killed by the others, but died in a different way (Tormund’s son in Dance died because of the could and came back ) the way benjen dies wouldn’t matter.
Of course, is (SPECULATIONS POST DANCE) benjen is NOT coldhands but still alive somehow my suggestion would be impossible to realize. I guess only GRRM and D&D know what really happened to benjen
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
I think it is very possible that Coldhands is Benjen. Although, if that is the case, why the 11 year tease on Coldhand’s identity? The 15 year tease on Benjen’s fate? We really have no idea what GRRM plans for this character, although I think it is obvious that he plans to reveal Benjen’s fate in a dramatic fashion at some point. It is completely possible that D&D just go a different direction than the books, but the butterfly effect in this particular case may change things too much.
knowsomethingQuote Reply
So the word on the street (there’s only one street) in Iceland is the local production company in charge of assisting HBO will be Pegasus (www.pegasus.is).
For those of you wondering about scenes beyond the wall, my guess is as good as one from above – they’ll mostly use Iceland for the Frostfangs and such desolate places.
I found this video on YouTube showing some scenery from Iceland. Possible locations might be alike to those in 2:12, 3:20, 5:35… Thereabouts. The music is cheesy, I know.
SquealerQuote Reply
Squealer,
There are also some locations shots on the Pegasus site – some might find the ones labeled “Ice and Snow” interesting.
SquealerQuote Reply
check out this cave:
http://www.pegasus.is/images/gallery/45/372.jpg
metalgoddessambQuote Reply
Not much going on here these days :/
Got confirmation for what we’ve known for ages…. great.
Is everyone including HBO and WiC.net on vacation? ;-)
SteveQuote Reply
Oh no!!!
Poor cast!
They will have to learn how to pronounce Eyjafjallajökull
That’s harder than daughters!
UdiQuote Reply
Steve,
I must agree. CASTING NEWS!! NOW!!!!
Sorry, I don’t know where that comes from.
Josh ParkerQuote Reply
knowsomething,
why? coldhands isn’t supposed to appear til season 3..
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Squealer,
FORGOT THE LINK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boghpSPR6FI
…I feel sheepish.
SquealerQuote Reply
You mean beside Bloodrabbit finding out which parts of Dubrovnik will be used in filming? If that isn’t something…
Ivan PopićQuote Reply
okay, so, i’ve just found this on tumblr.
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpzmkaiFVj1r1vrp1o1_r1_500.png
i had to share
EDIT: oh, and this
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq0h2aQgLs1r1vrp1o1_500.png
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Sean Fan,
Also based on her role in this film on its own, ten years ago Sarah Polley would have made a great Ygritte.
Josh AtreidesQuote Reply
Sure that was great news but the first great news in 2 weeks and nothing since…
SteveQuote Reply
Not sure where you’re located but you can buy the Beowulf and Grendel DVD used over on Amazon for as little as $.59 cents! LOL!
I agree! She really was fabulous in her role in this film and I would love to see her cast in some sort of role in this series down the line.
The mention of the little Icelandic ponies immediately brought back the image of Gerard Butler’s feet just about dragging on the ground while he was riding one. LOL!
Sean FanQuote Reply
I just have to quote my Icelandic lecturer here, who everytime someone called them “ponies” said: They’re horses, damnit … they just have short legs! :D
LisaQuote Reply
OhWhoCares,
Nope, you can pick it up for 5 bucks or less pretty much anywhere.
KGQuote Reply
Don’t even worry about it. Just look at it this way: If we presume that Season Two will begin on April 17, 2012 (same date as Season One), then you only have 238 more whining days til Xmas.
or 5,712 hours.
or 342,720 minutes.
So, plenty of time for you to whine.
the goatQuote Reply
the goat,
well, i’d say sunday, april 16th.
It’s a sunday, i think.
Actually, i’m kinda sure HBO is going to air GOT earlier this year.
First, because airing GoT in april pushes True Blood ‘s schedule.
Second, because there is no Big Love this year. Boardwalk empire airs from september, 25th to December, 11th (12 weeks) after that, there is nothing new show to air. big love is over, entournage is over, BE, How To Make It in America and Hung all premiere in the fall. I think they’re going to re-air true blood. If they start, for example, on january 8, it’s another 12 weeks til March, 25th.
So, i think HBO will air GoT the week after that, on april 1st :)
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Cheers for that link. I always wanted to visit Iceland, it is the kind of landscape that makes you feel very small. Amazing, a saga of ice and fire.
Lord Two FeathersQuote Reply
Reading the discussion on whether or not Rickon’s journey would be included – it’s actually of benefit to the producers that Rickon disappears for a couple seasons.
It means that they have an option of casting somebody else when he does return and needs to handle some dramatic weight.
Art Parkinson may decide in the next three years that he really doesn’t want to be an actor after all.
Ax0rQuote Reply
I’m liking Croatia as a shooting location. Those pics that HmR had up in the last post were really spectacular. Makes me wanna take a little visit to Dubrovnik now.
Iceland should also be interesting. But I’m glad Ireland is still being used. I count myself very lucky to be living in such a pretty little country!
BroQuote Reply
I really love Khal..it was a pity that I can’t see him anymore in s2.
look forward to s2!!!
LynnQuote Reply
Article and pics from Dubrovnik casting by dulist.hr. Apparently hole bunch of people showed up, so I think they have needed 200 extras.
Also, The Dubrovnik Times reports latest events (with somewhat old info).
Most of major portals reported as well: net.hr, net.hr x2, tportal.hr, jutarnji.hr, HRT.hr…
And this is all before the Emmys
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