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It’s official: Gemma Whelan to play Yara Greyjoy

Filed Under: Casting, News

Gemma WhelanWe first reported this rumored casting a few weeks ago, but now it is official: Gemma Whelan has been cast to play Yara Greyjoy in season two of Game of Thrones. Yara was named Asha in the books, but has had her name changed in the show so as not to confuses audiences with the character Osha. James Hibberd of EW.com with the story:

Producers have tapped Gemma Whelan (Gulliver’s Travels, The Wolfman) to play Asha Yara Greyjoy, the older sister of the Stark family’s impulsive young ward Theon. Yara defies the Ironborn traditions of her family by commanding her own ship and leading men into battle, as well as having a penchant for axes.

Whelan is a British actress who has stage and some film credits to her name (noted in the quote above). Interestingly, she also has a bit of a comedic background, having won the Funny Women Variety Act Award in Sept 2010 with her character Chastity Butterworth. It could be that the producers will look to use her comedic talents in Yara’s memorable first scene.

Winter Is Coming: So Yara it is then. Hopefully I will get used to the name. It’s not a big deal in any case. Whelan is a bit different from how I imagined Asha/Yara, with a softer look and more comedy present in her acting (from the limited amount of clips I was able to find). Of course, looks can be altered and acting tailored to fit the character. So it remains to be seen whether the casting of Whelan indicates a shift in character to a softer, more playful Asha Yara or whether Whelan was able to embody the toughness of Ash–Yara! (that is going to be hard to get used to) in the audition. I trust Nina Gold and I’m looking forward to seeing the end result, either way. Welcome to the cast Gemma!

UPDATE: In related news, HBO has confirmed the casting of Kerr Logan as Matthos Seaworth.

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189 Comments

  1. Wolfheart
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Any name that starts with a hard letter is hard to roll off the tongue. I wonder if we will hear more “yARa (soft y hard R)” or “YAR-ah/YAR-a” in pronunciation in the show. Let the pirate YARS commence. *sigh*

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  2. Cheri
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    I think her looks are fitting for the character…..I think she’ll play off of Alfie pretty well and she seems like she could have a smartassy look about her!

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  3. Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    She seems very “roguish” but why not ? She has an Asha/Yara’s smile !

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  4. Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    No problem with the casting, but I do not like the name change. Still referring to her as Asha.

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  5. Jambo
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Which character on Game of Thrones was the pirates’ favorite?

    yARRRRRRRRRRRRRRa

    Thank you, thank you.

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  6. Connie
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    I always saw Asha as having a very playful side with steel underneath. The kind of person who is always laughing and having fun,but has no trouble flipping from silly to serious in a second. I think she’ll be fine, and there’s no issue with the name change for me. Things read in print and said aloud are very different issues.

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  7. Astalnar
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    When you put it that way…
    Asha does have history of piracy. A successful pirate career indeed.
    Not to mention her unlce Crow-eye. This one is most religious man after Damphair. When people see his flag they start praying and he starts killng them because they pray to the wrong god. A real charmer.

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  8. Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    As others have said before, they should have just changed Osha’s name – especially since it hasn’t been uttered on the series yet, has it?

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  9. Fog
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    If you watch HBO GO with the extra features turned on a brief description of who Osha’s is and her name will appear when she is on screen. So in a way they have been using Osha’s name in the series.

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  10. Yara Fan
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    I approve.

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  11. Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Looks like a good choice.

    Screw this stupid name change, I will still call her Asha.

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  12. Flouride
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Still don’t like the name change. If Osha and Asha are too similar, then how come Arya and Yara aren’t….

    Anyways she looks like Asha, no idea on her acting skills though. In Nina Gold we trust.

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  13. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure she’ll do a good job. Hard to picture her exactly as I guess she’ll be showing some other sides than what I’ve previously seen from her.

    As for the name I’m not bothered by it, there are more important things to get upset about if I feel the need (Hollywood usually assumes that the crowd is much dumber than this show does so it could be much worse). I felt that it was odd mixing fantasy names with real world ones when I first started reading AGOT and I certainly got used to that so Iwill get used to this. GRRM writes good enough for the character names to be far from the most defining aspect.

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  14. Logan
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Still hate this name change. I don’t think it was necessary at all, which just makes me hate it more. Love the casting choice, though.

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  15. Shinyteapot
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    I like her look, fingers crossed she’ll do a good job.

    Don’t like the name change but it’s no big deal- D&D should have looked at the thread full of suggestions though, I think we had some much better ideas :p

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  16. ND
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think Osha and Asha sound anything alike. And Yara rhymes with Arya. Ugh.

    Anyways, like the casting. Should be some entertaining scenes between Theon and her.

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  17. Obsidian
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    I like the cut of her jib !

    I just hope I don’t find myself rolling my eyes every time her name is mentioned.

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  18. axia777
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Great choice. She really looks like my mental vision of Asha/Yara. Personally, I do not care about name changes. It is a TV show and there need to be some changes made. Just like the Lord of the Rings movies.

    Now they need to send Gemma Whelan to the gym to get ripped and to weapons training so she is scary with a battle/throwing ax.

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  19. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Welcome Gemma!!!

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  20. Steve the Pirate
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Game of Thrones isn’t just a collection of cool names. We’ll get over it.
    I like Whelan’s look. Looking forward to her…Yara.

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  21. HandmaidenofDany
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Btw, Asha is one of my favorite characters and she looks great for the roll!! *claps*

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  22. Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    Yara.. okay :S

    HandmaidenofDany:
    Welcome Gemma!!!

    this

    Jessica C.: Still referring to her as Asha.

      

    of course. Exactly how we all refer to the “white walkers” as “the HBOthers” :)

    ND: And Yara rhymes with Arya. Ugh.

    no, i don’t think so.
    Arya is pronunced “ARE-yuh”, while i’m sure “Yara” will likely be pronunced “YAR-ah” or just “YOH-ra” (like the english pronunciation of “Lara”)

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  23. axia777
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    ND:
    Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t think Osha and Asha sound anything alike. And Yara rhymes with Arya. Ugh.

    Anyways, like the casting. Should be some entertaining scenes between Theon and her.

    In a Clash of Kings even Theon makes a comment in his POV that Asha sounds like Osha.

    EDIT: In Martin’s defense though I think he was trying to make a connection between the two characters as being strong women who take NO sh*t from anyone, man or women.

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  24. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Elena Amici,

    Although “the white walkers” is actually canon as they’ve been referred to by that name several times in the books.

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  25. Thomas
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    It might just be the picture above but this isn’t how I imagined Asha to look. As WiC says, she looks a bit soft and not at all like the kind of reaver that has devoted ironborn followers. But then, I guess that’s called acting.

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  26. The Dragon Demands
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Why didn’t they just rename Osha the Wilding?

    Asha Greyjoy is a more prominent character in the overall book series.

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  27. shadallion
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    She looks like a cutie-pie. I’d like to see some better pix.

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  28. Gradishar
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    If they have to change it…make it at least sound like a woman’s name… Ashanna Greyjoy or Tasha Greyjoy would at least remind us all of who she started out as in the books. Yara just sound silly.

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  29. purplejilly
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Sigh.. Too bad they didn’t come peruse our thread and pick one of our much better suggestions than Yara. I’ll get used to it eventually, I’ll just be grumbling the first few times she is on screen.

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  30. Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    I presume The Viewers Guide will be updated with Asha’s new name before Season 2 starts or people will be even more confused.

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  31. Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    I love the actress very much, I think was a great choice, but besides me “voting” against the name change, I was expecting them to choose another name. I think Sasha was one of the most “voted” in your last blog about the name change. The add of an “S” at the beginning actually changes everything

    Osha != Sasha

    Anyways, great cast for her Imo and that’s what matters most.

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  32. Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    If she can say ‘nuncle’ without laughing she’ll do fine

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  33. RathHood
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Dont like Yara, Gemma’s picture and her showreel (chubby, likeable comedian …. pffff – as far from book Asha as possible) but I wont despair, so far casting choices (only exception being wooden Shae) were brilliant. Hope I’m going to be positively surprised once again.

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  34. Impi
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    It may not have been Azshara, but I guess I’ll have to deal with Ash-Yara.

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  35. DawnWielder
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Yara? I know nor will I recognize any “Yara” Greyjoy (crosses arms and frowns) lol

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  36. Eagle1
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Where do I get a “Team Asha” shirt? Friggin’ ridiculous.

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  37. Julian Walker
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    TESTUOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

    YARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

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  38. Lex
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    I’m not a nitpicker at all…

    But I definitely think changing Asha to Yara is a stupid move.

    Wrong on so many levels. ( e.g. Osha is nearly insignificant, Asha is important. Asha sounds awesome, Yara doesn’t. Etc., etc.)

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  39. Lex
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Seriously, imagine 4 or 5 years down the road… when Yara is still appearing regularly… and people ask “Why is she called Yara again? Oh right, because they didn’t want to confuse her with Osha, that insignificant character who appeared briefly in Season 1 and was never called by name!”

    Not cool, D&D.

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  40. Tar Kidho
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    I think we all agree on this one… Take notice HBO!

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  41. Lex
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a TV commercial she’s in. Expressive face. She’ll be good.

    But I’m gonna keep calling her ASHA! :)

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  42. MAC
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Flouride,

    Yes, Arya becomes Yara if you move one letter. But they DON’T SOUND ANYTHING ALIKE. Meanwhile, Osha and Asha, as spoken by a Brit, would be virtually indistinguishable. Theon even thinks to himself that the names sound the same! They really aren’t comparable.

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  43. Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    they’re going to give osha more space because they like Natalia Tena. GRRM said that like six months ago.
    I can’t provide a source right now, but i’m pretty sure about it

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  44. Oi!
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    People being all melodramatic over a name change dont cut yourself, please.

    Dont give a sh*t over the name (ohhhhh) change just hope the actress does a good job in the role.

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  45. frog spear girl
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    SOLID casting! she’s got a great face and i always saw”yara” as a verrrry playful woman with a killer (if not twisted!) sense of humor – but she ultimately is out to get what she wants out of life – no holds barred. she’s a real throne AND people player.

    can’t wait to see her intro scene with baby mick jagger! “-))

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  46. TheFacelessMan
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    LL,

    Agreed. I wasn’t quite sold until I looked at the smile and eyes. Very playful like she knows something you don’t and is definitely having fun at your expense. I hope she can just turn up the badass too.

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  47. Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    More casting news, courtesy of Westeros guys:
    http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Meet_Xaro_Xhoan_Daxos/

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  48. Wolfheart
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil:
    I presume The Viewers Guide will be updated with Asha’s new name before Season 2 starts or people will be even more confused.

    Haha, she was Asha on the guide before casting. WOOPS. Cogman what happened there? Haha. Just add a “D,T or Y” in front of Asha for us. Pretty please. And tell David and Dan. Most of us think the name change is either unnecessary or just add a letter before her real name to keep it as close as possible.

    Osha/Asha
    Arya/Yara

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  49. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    uh. okay. i like her look. she has a weird face like alfie does so that matches.

    the footlocker commercial is kind of funny and she’s not bad but … you know it’s a commercial. her stand up is not very good. and the “Frites” short is down right rubbish and her quasi-French accent makes me want to gouge out my eardrums.

    i am going to have to assume that there is more to her talent than what is on display on youtube tho so … let’s hope Nina found another gem.

    now cast Karoline Herfurth as Ygritte and i’ll pretend to forget about all this Asha/Yara … Yarasha nonsense.

    hey … Yarasha … why couldn’t they have changed the name to that? better than Yara which i agree is just as near to Ayra as Asha is to Osha. sometimes TV producers don’t make a damn bit of sense.

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  50. Dave 'KingSlayer'
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    i h8 name change, don’t dumb the show down for the masses.

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  51. weathervane
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    The GoT Twitter account is actually referring to her as Asha. A mistake?

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  52. fuelpagan
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Very interested to see what Gemma brings to the character. Welcome to the show!

    As for the name change…I can see why some of you are upset and certainly not saying you don’t have a right to feel that way. I just could care less. Never cared for her POV. My only complaint is my “Awe Shit Her Again” doesn’t work with Yara.

    Kind of hoping the TV show will change my opinion of the character.

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  53. Posted August 2, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Lex: Seriously, imagine 4 or 5 years down the road… when Yara is still appearing regularly… and people ask “Why is she called Yara again? Oh right, because they didn’t want to confuse her with Osha, that insignificant character who appeared briefly in Season 1 and was never called by name!”Not cool, D&D.

    Osha plays a key role in book 2, and probably again in book 6.

    I’m fine with the name change on principle, except for the fact that “Yara” sounds kinda stupid.

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  54. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Lex: I’m not a nitpicker at all…But I definitely think changing Asha to Yara is a stupid move.Wrong on so many levels. ( e.g. Osha is nearly insignificant, Asha is important. Asha sounds awesome, Yara doesn’t. Etc., etc.)

    You may not be a nitpicker, but in this post you certainly are nitpicking.

    Its not a change that matters at all, it won’t affect the story one iota. I can see their point as she and Natalie Tena will be about the same age and have a similiar look, I guess it could confuse some new viewers, who are already bombarded by dozens of names.

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  55. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Dave ‘KingSlayer’: i h8 name change, don’t dumb the show down for the masses.

    Changing a name does not “dumb down the show.” Simplifying the plot would be an example of dumbing down the show, changing a name is just simply changing a name. Did changing Robert Arryn to Robin suddenly make the show less intelligent? No, of course not.

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  56. Who Is Jacopo Belbo?
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Alexander Dubrovsky:
    More casting news, courtesy of Westeros guys:
    http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Meet_Xaro_Xhoan_Daxos/

    i have actually watched Cass and he is pretty good in it …. but talk about a divergence from the book description … he is like a 180 … but i get the concept of going from milk pale to very dark skinned (chocolate milk? i keed, i keed) … both sort of stand out and are visually stark so …

    more casting news please!!

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  57. Wolfheart
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a commercial she’s in. Hopefully she has a better hair style for the show. It just doesn’t look good on her here.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDn38tBoFYU&feature=youtu.be

    She has the chops to play the role. She’s going to be great seeing with Theon. But the resemblance is quite different. But meh.

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  58. sjwenings
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    She looks like the prototype of an average british girl, I think. Not quite what I (anyone?) pictured Asha like, but at least they didn’t go with a pixie-like little thing.

    Hope she works out a bit before her scenes. She does not exactly look like she’s in exellent shape or anything – and she’s supposed to be this very capable warrior.

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  59. ANH
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Meet_Xaro_Xhoan_Daxos/

    Yet another casting announcement. Hopefully we’ll get more important characters like Ygritte soon!

    EDIT: Seems like someone beat me to it.

    Gemma Whelan sure looks like my mental image of Asha. I honestly don’t mind the name Yara as much as most people here seem to. It would’ve been best if they kept it as Asha, (Yara is close to Arya anyway) but I don’t have many complaints.

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  60. A Bear_A Bear
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    I think the production team have a perfectly valid reason for making the change – people who say different have no understanding of the process of making television or the difference between print and television as media, or at least are pretending that they don’t – and let’s be frank, no amount of pathetic fanboy whingeing will make them change their mind on the decision at this late stage…

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  61. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    This is a dangerous road they are threading. If they are changing Asha’s name and Clevos gets a new name and surname with a goal of not confusing the viewers I wonder what will happen when more Freys are introduced. Half of them are called Walder and Walda…

    on topic: I think she looks good for the part, fits my mental image of Asha Greyjoy.

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  62. Wolfheart
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings:
    She looks like the prototype of an average british girl, I think. Not quite what I (anyone?) pictured Asha like, but at least they didn’t go with a pixie-like little thing.

    Hope she works out a bit before her scenes. She does not exactly look like she’s in exellent shape or anything – and she’s supposed to be this very capable warrior.

    The incredible slouching in the commercial doesnt help. Thats for sure. But it may have been part of her act.

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  63. Jo
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    A Bear_A Bear,

    Thank you. Very well stated.

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  64. Clob
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure she’ll do great. I’m certain they’ll get her looking proper for the character. There isn’t much easily found online for her as of yet is there. I’ve only seen Wolfman one time and I admit that I don’t even remember “Gwen’s maid.” Doing well in this series should change that. :)

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  65. Ed
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    LOL!!!!

    Jambo:
    Which character on Game of Thrones was the pirates’ favorite?

    yARRRRRRRRRRRRRRa

    Thank you, thank you.

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  66. Clob
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    She must be a friend of Emily Blunt’s or something. She’s been in two theatrical movies, both of which Emily was the lead actress.

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  67. Ashley Blackwoody
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!

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  68. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    She is so annoying in that Footlocker commercial (as intended). He shoulda punched HER! XD

    Love her already. Hope she gets to be more than just ‘comical’.

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  69. Jo
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    I just found a video reel of Gemma Whelan on the PBJ talent management website…

    http://www.pbjmgt.co.uk/artist/gemma-whelan#

    She definitely has the right nose to play Asha – I think her features match the character in the books quite closely. As for her comedic talent, I think that she and Alfie Allen will have great chemistry together on-screen.

    In some of these scenes she looks…full of mischief. Like she enjoys causing trouble and shaking things up. Her facial expression just says “you’re about to get punked/trolled”

    And I think with what we’ve seen of Allen’s performance as Theon so far, what with that character always trying to be smug and throwing his weight around only to realize he has no power in the situation at all…it will make for for some fun on-screen moments. They will play off of each other nicely.

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  70. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I think i like this casting, she looks like she can do a proper smirk. The name change is not neccesary in my opinion but I don’t mind Yara, i actually know someone with that name so it doesnt strike me as a particulary strange name.

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  71. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Ivan Popić,

    The Walder/Walda thing has a point and is deliberate. While Martin might have deliberately echoed Asha and Osha — he did have Theon mention it — it could be a case of his mind simply liking that sound and it being inadvertent. There’s no reason why these character — Osha and Asha — should have “twinnier” names than the actual twins on the show. Seeing the names spelled out simply helps the reader in a way that the spoke word doesn’t to differentiate.

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  72. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    She has an amazingly expressive face. She is untraditionally sexy. Impish or something. I think she looks convincingly similar to Theon and has a similar body type. I like the name Yara just fine. I suspect it will be pronounced Yar-uh with the ‘yar’ sounding like ‘yard’.

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  73. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Would anyone happen to know why my avatar from Twitter isn’t showing here on winter is coming?

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  74. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Altongate. Yaragate.

    I’m getting sick to death of all these “gates”.

    The only “gates” that matter are huge changes in story or character development, and so far there have been precious few of those. Name changes clearly don’t change the story, unless there’s a significant meaning behind the name.

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  75. Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    We definitely need to start a petition to fix her name. Even if it’s not Asha they can come up with something better than Yara. It sounds more like Arya than Osha.

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  76. Jericho
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    I do not see the strength of asha

    in this actress

    and even less in the new name, baaaaaaaaaad

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  77. Puzzlnut
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    I’m happy with the choice of Gemma. Too bad about the name, though. I wish they’d gone with OH-sha and Asha (or AY-sha). This whole mess could have been avoided with some skillful pronounciations.

    I don’t think at this point we can say that Osha is an insignificant role. We have no idea what George has in mind for R, S and Osha. They may well be important players in the future.

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  78. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Jericho,

    Oh, of course. Because a picture tells you everything.

    I’m beginning to think I should read the books, watch the show and ignore the sites/message boards.

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  79. Ollie
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    I like the look of her as long as she can be toughened up a bit, cant wait to see her and Theon in their first seen (if its the same as the book that cracked me up lol)
    the name change is crap, Asha is way more hardcore warrior pirate name than Yara but I can live with it

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  80. Winter Is Coming
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    In related news, HBO has confirmed the casting of Kerr Logan as Matthos Seaworth.

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  81. clemintine
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Welcome aboard Gemma, arrrr!

    The Asha in my head is more gaunt and hawkish; I never pictured her to be such a cutie pie. Then again, maybe that’s what they’re going for. She’s all charm, until the axe and dirk come out. But nevermind that. It’s the acting that’s important and if she wowed the GoT team, I’m sure she’ll do awsome.

    Genna is cool. The name change still yuck. They better not call her Yaaaaarrrra.

    Josh Parker: I’m beginning to think I should read the books

    Dude, what have you been doing since 1996? Go, read them now. (I at least have an excuse. I was still on Narnia and Prydain and Tortall when Song of Ice and Fire came out… but as soon as I was old enough to not be emotionally scarred by them, did I ever dig in).

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  82. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Who Is Jacopo Belbo?: i have actually watched Cass and he is pretty good in it …. but talk about a divergence from the book description … he is like a 180 … but i get the concept of going from milk pale to very dark skinned (chocolate milk? i keed, i keed) … both sort of stand out and are visually stark so …more casting news please!!

    I wonder if all Qartheen are going to be dark skinned or will there be a mixture of skin tones in the city.

    I see Kerr Logan as Davos’ son Matthos has been confirmed as well.

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  83. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    wow, I cannot believe it. Still disappointed with every single casting decision for this season except Melisadre…. ahh well here’s to hoping they got it right again.

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  84. world_dancer
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    I’d really like to see her in profile, as it’s the nose that counts to me.

    But from this view, she does look too soft for the role, particularly in the progression Asha was given in Dance.

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  85. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    clemintine,

    Ummm…I have. Three times. I’m sure I’ll read them again. Perhaps I should have said “stick to the books”.

    What I meant was, fans are so prickly with any change, no matter how minor, that I’m getting sick of ready all the whinging. As long as D&D don’t start going the True Blood route (or worse, the Dresden Files route), I’m happy.

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  86. KG
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Oh nice, Matthos has been cast? That sounds like extra screen time for Davos, and that’s always a good thing!

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  87. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    As cast, I can completely see Theon and, er, Yara in that first scene together. She is attractive enough that I can see him hitting on her, and mischievous looking enough that I can see her playing along — before humiliating him.

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  88. Zmajevic
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    I’m really disappointed with both name change and the actual choice for Asha…Jesus, Asha is hot, this girl looks not even remotely similar to her depiction in the books…comedian background?? Saw some clips on YouTube, and I’m even more depressed now…and to change name?? Why everything needs to be scaled to satisfy average dumb American Joe….

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  89. Enteril
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Zmajevic:
    I’m really disappointed with both name change and the actual choice for Asha…Jesus, Asha is hot, this girl looks not even remotely similar to her depiction in the books…comedian background?? Saw some clips on YouTube, and I’m even more depressed now…and to change name?? Why everything needs to be scaled to satisfy average dumb American Joe….

    So were you upset when Mark Addy was cast too?

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  90. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    the Gull: Ryan E

    “We definitely need to start a petition to fix her name. Even if it’s not Asha they can come up with something better than Yara. It sounds more like Arya than Osha.”

    I have seen similiar posts before, and I feel like I need to point something out… it doesn’t matter one bit if the name is close to Arya, because nobody is going to confuse Yara Greyjoy (a 20-something woman who plays a relatively minor role) with Arya Stark (a ~10 year old girl who plays a major role and is a huge fan favorite).

    People, there is more to it than just the name! Her and N Tena look fairly similiar, are about the same age, and both play relatively minor roles which could be easy for a casual viewer to confuse.

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  91. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker: Altongate. Yaragate.
    I’m getting sick to death of all these “gates”.

    Were you around last year? We had the eyerbowgate back then.
    (And the wig gate. The kit’s-hair-gate. The dany-is-not-beautiful-enough-and-sansa-is-too-tall-and-jon-is-too-pretty gate).
    Seriously, try to be sympathetic. We love GoT and we want to say our opinions. Also, it’s not like there’s much to talk about these days.

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  92. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Zmajevic: I’m really disappointed with both name change and the actual choice for Asha…Jesus, Asha is hot, this girl looks not even remotely similar to her depiction in the books…comedian background?? Saw some clips on YouTube, and I’m even more depressed now…and to change name?? Why everything needs to be scaled to satisfy average dumb American Joe….

    Changing a name is not the equivalent of “dumbing it down”. Dumbing it down would be simplifying the plot and making the story less complex. Changing a name is simply changing a name for clarity.

    Did you feel the story was dumbed down last season when Robert Arryn was changed to Robin Arryn?

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  93. Jericho
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    who spoke about pictures? There are videos on youtube and are worse than the pictures! lol

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  94. clemintine
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    My bad :)

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  95. Hear Me Roar
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    I will read the comments later, but for now just shortly: I’m okay with the name choice, if they had to change it – Yara resonates well with me. Glad I won’t be distracted by that watching S2 ;)

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  96. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    I think she has a good look for Asha. Smirky. I like it.

    The name change does not matter. At all. You may like “Asha” more than “Yara” but it does not matter. It changes nothing.

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  97. Zmajevic
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Ryan E,

    If producers believe that viewers will be so confused with Asha/Osha names that means they are thinking that most of the viewers are indeed dumb…And I think the same about the Robert/Robin change. Although it’s a lesser problem since he’s been referred as Robin, and he’s nowhere near as important as Asha…
    Wow, we have same/similar names -change it, change it, people will be confused….give me a break…
    For the Gemma as a choice, I’m saying I’m disappointed with her looks, since she’s not even close to character in the book, in my opinion…Unless she’s really terrific actor, I think that this choice is an epic fail…

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  98. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Much softer than I imagined Asha, and frankly not how I imagined Asha at all, but as I said in the “rumor” thread, there’s something very Greyjoy about her smile.

    The Yara name change is, in my opinion, completely unnecessary. Osha/Asha don’t even share screentime or plotlines, so I fail to see how it will confuse the same “new viewers” who gobbled up all the intricate backstory and machinations of Season 1. Oh well, not a big deal REALLY…I guess I’m being a purist on this one. :(

    She looks so much younger than Alfie…interested to see them on screen together!

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  99. Posted August 2, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Elena Amici,

    Yeah, that’s why I’m getting sick of it.

    After all the bitching about Mark Addy, Michelle Fairley, Kit Harington (in costume), et al, one would think that actual fans would stop their bitching until they’ve seen the final product.

    Of the first season, the only one I remain dissatisfied with is Renly. One weak spot among a huge cast list. Not bad at all.

    Jericho, before GoT, Mark Addy’s showreel would have been made up primarily of clips from The Full Monty, The Flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas, Around the World in 80 Days and Still Standing. In other words, nothing that would suggest the acting chops to play Robert. And yet he was BRILLIANT.

    Seven Hells, when will whiners learn? See the finished product first, THEN complain. We are, of course, free to discuss the casting any way we see fit, but I guess I’m just disappointed that fans are so prickly and rigid and…Stannis-like. We pass judgement immediately and act like our opinions are fact.

    Say “I have doubts or reservations” but saying “This casting choice sucks and the show now sucks because of it!” or any veriation thereof (and Jericho’s, yours was a variation thereof) is just petulant childish whining.

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  100. saluk
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Let’s be realistic, if you are worried about it being “dumbed down”, you might as well stop at season one and quit while you are ahead. It’s already been “dumbed down” quite a bit, and it’s going to get worse, not better, because the books get more complex. The name change isn’t really very drastic, but there will be more things which are.

    Still, I don’t think it was an important change, as most people I talk to don’t even know anyones names as it is. They just talk about the boy king, or the horse king, or the horse princess, or Ned’s cool daughter and Ned’s snotty daughter, etc. Minor characters like Osha are not even really mentioned – they are just a dialog mouthpiece for the most part.

    I’m not impressed with Gemma’s acting as far as I’ve seen, but we don’t know what the producers saw. If she gave a great reading of the script, that matters more than her other work.

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  101. Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    BTW, guys, Asha’s not supposed to be hot. She’s supposed to be boyish. Theon will f@ck anything; that’s why when he first saw her and didn’t know who she was he started hitting on her. I believe he even thinks to himself that she’s hardly beautiful but good enough.

    Why do we always assume that every female character not described as butt ugly is supposed to be super-gorgeous? Cat wasn’t, and neither is Asha. Next we’ll be getting “Dacey Mormont is supposed to be prettier than that!”

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  102. Tywin's Bastard
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Zmajevic,

    There are a whole bunch of characters in the first season that were just as different from their book descriptions as Gemma is and even some which differ significantly more than Gemma (the Baratheon brothers for example). Therefor it should be obvious that we can’t expect direct similarity because they need to focus on good acting before exact looks. Going to such hyperbole to explain your displeasure isn’t really very constructive either.

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  103. Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    well, dacey mormont is “pretty, tall & willowy” (paraphrasing cat)

    asha has long legs, a great smile and a “don’t fuck with me attitute”. IMO, she’s not pretty, or girly or beautiful, she’s just hot as hell. I have a bit of a.. okay, a huge girl crush on her (and i like boys!)

    anyway, i’m not in the “the more beautiful, the better” team (which is the same thing some people are talking about in the ygritte casting post). It’s a person’s attitude that makes her (or him) pretty or sexy, or whatever, especially if we re talkink about actors in a tv show

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  104. saluk
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Wow, we have same/similar names-change it, change it, people will be confused….give me a break…

    To be fair, these kinds of things ARE more confusing in tv, what with putting up with peoples accents and not being able to pause reading and think about who a character actually is. It’s not that the tv audience is dumber than the readers, (some are, sure, but a large portion of the tv audience was composed of readers or people who became readers) but the tool they are using is incredibly blunt. It’s the difference between a hammer and a scalpel. There are a lot of different precise cuts a scalpel can make, hammers just bang.

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  105. Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    I think some men tend to cast from a pool of actresses kept in their spank bank. If left to the preferences of this group, all the women would be impossibly attractive — and few people would still be happy, because we all see these people differently.

    Asha, you are right, is not traditionally or conventionally hot. Her appeal is largely swagger. The actress would have no problem finding a “friend” at the bar. She is real-life cute, attractive in a tomboyish way. I see it as good casting as opposed to porno casting. Why is it that when it comes to actresses so many people reject women they’d be pretty happy with in real life?

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  106. Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Michelle R.,

    I was just thinking that. In my dating (and once-married) life, I had a string of guys behind me just royally pissed off that I was with the woman they wanted to be with.

    And in every case I think my gf (and ex-wife) would be called “fugly” if she were to be cast in any role on this show.

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  107. The Reader
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    I think she looks great. I was worried about Mary Addy being too funny for Robert and he nailed it.

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  108. Flouride
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    MAC:
    Flouride,

    Yes, Arya becomes Yara if you move one letter. But they DON’T SOUND ANYTHING ALIKE. Meanwhile, Osha and Asha, as spoken by a Brit, would be virtually indistinguishable. Theon even thinks to himself that the names sound the same! They really aren’t comparable.

    So it’s a accent thing? Americans don’t understand british accents? They just need to pronounciate Asha AY-SHA and it won’t sound like Osha.

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  109. tysnow
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    I like her expresssive personality, facial especially. She also seems more trimmed down and athletic in the last couple of dated clips. Perhaps she knew (or hoping) she was getting the part a long time ago and has been with a fitness instructor since.
    From her comedic parts, and other characteristic traits, I am thinking D&D are going with a roguish Johnny Depp type change to Asha, hence the Yarrrrrra name change.

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  110. Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Maester leuwin said it in the theon, maester, osha scene…. I think bran said it as well
    Jerry Glonek,

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  111. Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker: Elena Amici,

    Yeah, that’s why I’m getting sick of it.

    After all the bitching about Mark Addy, Michelle Fairley, Kit Harington (in costume), et al, one would think that actual fans would stop their bitching until they’ve seen the final product.

    well, you have to admit that NCW’s nose (if you are reading this, sorry nikolaj! I love you!) and those shoots of kit and his ringlets (again, sorry kit. I don’t really mean this) looked weird early on :D
    Anyway, bitching is part of being a fan. I think a picture of an actor is not enough to judge him/her, and i really don’t give a crap if HBO changes the name of some secondary characters (although yara is awful and doesn’t sound ironborn at all), but maybe someone else feels worried about it and wants to nitpick about it… well, it’s not a problem, isn’t it? Just take it easy, ignore the comments you don’t like and be ready to say “i told you so” next april.

    Ps:and then, again, what else do we have to talk about?

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  112. Nikki
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    not sure if I can see her as Asha since there are only like two pictures of her floating around online. We shall have to see. We need a profile shot to see her nose :p

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  113. Jens
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    I second, third and totally support any petition to change this name back to Asha. I am totally supportive of Producers adding scenes to the story to explain off the page activities such as the brilliant Tywin Lannister scene or the interesting Littlefinger scene. I’m even fine with them focusing only on one of Dany’s bloodriders. But, when you start changing names and deleting characters (cough, Blackfish, cough), you get into a habit that will change the entire story. This book is ALL about the details, details, details. Every page has a hint or an allusion to other chapters, which is why I was very disappointed that they didn’t give their Targaryen’s colored contact lenses to reflect their lilac eyes, which are there as clues, clues clues. Sometimes I wonder if the producers even read the books.

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  114. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Zmajevic: Ryan E, If producers believe that viewers will be so confused with Asha/Osha names that means they are thinking that most of the viewers are indeed dumb…And I think the same about the Robert/Robin change. Although it’s a lesser problem since he’s been referred as Robin, and he’s nowhere near as important as Asha…Wow, we have same/similar names -change it, change it, people will be confused….give me a break…For the Gemma as a choice, I’m saying I’m disappointed with her looks, since she’s not even close to character in the book, in my opinion…Unless she’s really terrific actor, I think that this choice is an epic fail…

    Well, I disagree that simply changing a name dumbs anything down. The spoken word (especially in accents) and the written word are two different things, its a simple change to avoid two names for two minor characters that sound nearly the same for two characters who look similiarly and are approximately the same age. The change is for clarity, not simplification or dumbing down. It has absolutely no effect on the complexity of the story, or actually the story whatsoever.

    As for her looks, she looks a little nice/cuter than I expected, rather than rougher/sexier… however all I have seen is a head shot or two, which clearly is much different than the final product will be. So, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, especially since I firmly believe that acting is 100x more important than matching the mental image I have from the book, or even matching GRMM’s description of how a character looks.

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  115. Bro
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    I’m liking this actress for Asha. But the whole name change was not necessary imo. If they really felt they needed to change it, they ould have at least picked something that sounded less stupid.
    And thank the Gods Kerr Logan is playing a Seaworth and not some random new fella we all thought he was!

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  116. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Jens: I second, third and totally support any petition to change this name back to Asha. I am totally supportive of Producers adding scenes to the story to explain off the page activities such as the brilliant Tywin Lannister scene or the interesting Littlefinger scene. I’m even fine with them focusing only on one of Dany’s bloodriders. But, when you start changing names and deleting characters (cough, Blackfish, cough), you get into a habit that will change the entire story. This book is ALL about the details, details, details. Every page has a hint or an allusion to other chapters, which is why I was very disappointed that they didn’t give their Targaryen’s colored contact lenses to reflect their lilac eyes, which are there as clues, clues clues. Sometimes I wonder if the producers even read the books.

    You are correct that the book is all about details. However, it is completely impossible (and would result in a boring, incomprehensible mess of a TV show) to try to include ALL, or even most, of the details from a series that is 5+ approximately 1,000 page books.

    Changing a name does not “change the entire story”, it is the exact same story with “Asha” replaced by “Yara.” If you had the entire series in a Word document, you could simply find and replace all of the “Asha” with “Yara”… and it would not change the story one iota, it would be the exact same story with one relatively minor character named differently. So your simply wrong on that account. As far as the Blackfish, I’d love to have im in there but you people are crazy if you think they will be able to fit all of the characters of his level of importance (very minor) into the TV series.

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  117. Jens
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Ryan E: You are correct that the book is all about details. However, it is completely impossible (and would result in a boring, incomprehensible mess of a TV show) to try to include ALL, or even most, of the details from a series that is 5+ approximately 1,000 page books. Changing a name does not “change the entire story”, it is the exact same story with “Asha” replaced by “Yara.” If you had the entire series in a Word document, you could simply find and replace all of the “Asha” with “Yara”… and it would not change the story one iota, it would be the exact same story with one relatively minor character named differently. So your simply wrong on that account. As far as the Blackfish, I’d love to have im in there but you people are crazy if you think they will be able to fit all of the characters of his level of importance (very minor) into the TV series.

    Perhaps it won’t change the story, you are correct. However, you missed my point. If they start changing too much, they’ll get themselves in binds which they could’ve easily avoided by not chaning anything. That is what I’m saying. For example, lets say (and this is just a crap point) all three bloodriders are vastly important in one chapter in “A Dream of Spring” … oh wait, they’re not even in the tv show. oh no, what do we do. If you start changing too much, then you’re screwed.
    The name change is just plain dumb, however. Who else here thinks “Yara” sounds like a Romulan? Engage cloaking devices people, the Klingons are coming. Give me a freaking break. Yara … pft.

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  118. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Jens: Perhaps it won’t change the story, you are correct. However, you missed my point. If they start changing too much, they’ll get themselves in binds which they could’ve easily avoided by not chaning anything. That is what I’m saying. For example, lets say (and this is just a crap point) all three bloodriders are vastly important in one chapter in “A Dream of Spring” … oh wait, they’re not even in the tv show. oh no, what do we do. If you start changing too much, then you’re screwed.The name change is just plain dumb, however. Who else here thinks “Yara” sounds like a Romulan? Engage cloaking devices people, the Klingons are coming. Give me a freaking break. Yara … pft.

    You are right that does sound like a Romulan name.

    But as far as the bloodriders go, you can simply introduce them as 3 of Khal Drogo’s former bloodriders who ran off after he died. Audiences will not care if they don’t remember them from the first season. I’ve read the books 3 times and I can’t remember a single one of their names. Its just not an important detail that would have a negative affect on the TV series.

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  119. Jens
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Ryan E: Well, I disagree that simply changing a name dumbs anything down. The spoken word (especially in accents) and the written word are two different things, its a simple change to avoid two names for two minor characters that sound nearly the same for two characters who look similiarly and are approximately the same age. The change is for clarity, not simplification or dumbing down. It has absolutely no effect on the complexity of the story, or actually the story whatsoever. As for her looks, she looks a little nice/cuter than I expected, rather than rougher/sexier… however all I have seen is a head shot or two, which clearly is much different than the final product will be. So, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, especially since I firmly believe that acting is 100x more important than matching the mental image I have from the book, or even matching GRMM’s description of how a character looks.

    GRRM, btw.

    also, btw, Asha isn’t a minor character. She’s a supporting main character, IMO. She has several POV chapters, Osha has none. Osha is a minor supporting character. Why would you not change the name of a minor character instead of a main one. That would be like renaming King Robert to Robin (Renaming Robert Arryn made sense, because that was his nickname). Riddle me this Ryan: What will they do with the Frey family? rename every single family member? 80% of them are named Walder or Walda. Are we going to see Black Waldo or Red Walter? Hell, they have a family member named after almost every other family’s famous lord, including Rhaegar and Tywin. Changing things because you as a producer are confused is pointless.

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  120. Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    We’ve already had this stupid fucking argument.

    As a geek I’m often lumped in with some pretty embarrassing fandoms, but this single issue is the worst one ever. Bitching about such an insignificant things as this name change is beyond pathetic. Grow the fuck up.

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  121. KG
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Zmajevic,

    Asha is never described as hot. Quit being a stereotype.

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  122. KG
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    GaR,

    :) Yay we agree on something! We should declare this a holiday.

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  123. Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    oh shiiiiit, did hell freeze over, or what? :B

    ::edit::

    If we both agree, surely we can’t be wrong? Right?

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  124. Clob
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Jim Cross: Maester leuwin said it in the theon, maester, osha scene…. I think bran said it as wellJerry Glonek,

    Not that it matters, but no, he doesn’t. While at work last week looking at clips on this topic I only found the scene with Theon and her first scene. Neither of them has her name mentioned. Never found time to watch her other scenes.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HetNyRLskOE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS0fF8Er-mk

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  125. Ryan E
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Jens: GRRM, btw.. Riddle me this Ryan: What will they do with the Frey family? rename every single family member? 80% of them are named Walder or Walda. Are we going to see Black Waldo or Red Walter? Hell, they have a family member named after almost every other family’s famous lord, including Rhaegar and Tywin. Changing things because you as a producer are confused is pointless.

    Just take a minute and think about this. Two points:

    1. We are not going to meet dozens of Freys or going to learn all of these names on the TV show. Not going to happen, and would be pointless. The hundreds of random names of extremely minor characters from this house or that house that we learn in the books have no place on this or any other TV show, unless they want to bore the audience to death. We are not going to meet all sorts of Waldas and Walders that we need to keep straight on the TV show. Its a non-issue.

    2. Secondly, the Freys all having the same name was a joke in the book, and Old Lord Walder couldn’t even keep them straight, so they are a bad example.

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  126. Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Clob,

    It is definitely 100% true, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if they’d changed Osha’s name, we’d be having this same bloody argument with the names reversed.

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  127. Lex
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    GaR:
    We’ve already had this stupid fucking argument.

    As a geek I’m often lumped in with some pretty embarrassing fandoms, but this single issue is the worst one ever.Bitching about such an insignificant things as this name change is beyond pathetic.Grow the fuck up.

    Funny, because that’s the position I usually take… except for this time. The name change really annoys me.

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  128. Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Wait wait wait…

    From Hibberd’s quote above: “Yara defies the Ironborn traditions of her family by commanding her own ship and leading men into battle, as well as having a penchant for axes.”

    Commanding a ship, leading men into battle and having a penchant for axes is defying Ironborn traditions? Those are pretty much their three favourite things! Chuck in raping, piracy and pretending they’re not slavers when really they are, and you’ve got the full set. o_O

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  129. Lex
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    GaR:
    Clob,

    It is definitely 100% true, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if they’d changed Osha’s name, we’d be having this same bloody argument with the names reversed.

    I don’t think people would be NEARLY as bothered.

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  130. Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    You can’t be serious. You’ve been posting here for a long while, you’ve seen the frothy-mouthed madness that takes over whenever a deviation from the books is announced. It doesn’t matter if it’s completely inconsequential, necessary or even an improvement; a shitload of people cry their eyes out anyway.

    And yes, I include this thread in that.

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  131. Chris77
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Casting: Great
    Naming: Fail

    Even though changing a name does change nothing in the story, It still feels like dumbing down the story, because the Producers fear that the audience is too dumb to keep two drastically different characters apart. If you keep in mind how the book sales spiked in the last few month, you can be preety sure that most of the audience is familiar with the show and new viewers will most likely follow their example and read the books. Therefore the namechange will piss off a big chunk of the audience and it is totally unnecessary. I think no one will complain about two names that sound a bit similar, but as you can see in various threads, a lot of people will be bothered if they change the name… If there is no oher way, please only add a letter so we get Dasha, Tasha, Yasha, Sasha.

    Somehow, I feel itis not D & D’s fault ( I trust these guys immensely) but rather some CEO at HBO who ordered it…

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  132. Jens
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Ryan E,

    Yet again you elude my point, Ryan. Please reread the sentences prior to this comment … not to say that I disagree with your comments on the Freys. Why change the more important character? Osha’s a wildling and really only serves as “female guarding lost prince.” Asha will become an important character as the story goes on … ludicrous.

    At least we can agree that she has become Romulan.

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  133. Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    GaR,

    yep, but she’s a woman…

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  134. Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Jens,

    This is very easy to answer.

    Osha was in season 1. Now she is established they won’t change her name. They have people whose job it is to prevent that.

    If they’d both been itnroduced in the same season, then maybe Osha would’ve been the one to lose her name. But, she were here first.

    For the 14th time though: Who cares? What a dumb thing to care about.

    Elena Amici,

    Yeah, I was being deliberately obtuse there.

    Is it such a weird thing for an Ironborn woman to be a hardarse who does piracy and fighting? I mean, yeah, Theon gets upset by it, but she does make a fool of him and taunt him mercilessly. He’s also been chilling in the North for a decade, where women aren’t encouraged to be all hardarse to the extent that the harsher Iron Islands might allow (Bear Island perhaps excepted).

    I haven’t read Feast for a long time though, so maybe I’ve forgotten something that makes me wrong on that.

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  135. Luke Palladino
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Why do they keep changing names? I don’t see any reason at ALL to do so. What gives?

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  136. Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Luke Palladino,

    They’ve done it twice, by my count (I’m not counting Rhakaro). The named cast numbers more than a hundred by now, so this represents less than 2%.

    As for the reasons why: They renamed Robert Arryn to prevent confusion with Robert Baratheon, and they renamed Asha Greyjoy to prevent confusion with Osha. This has already been explained, of course, but maybe you missed that.

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  137. Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    GaR: Is it such a weird thing for an Ironborn woman to be a hardarse who does piracy and fighting? I mean, yeah, Theon gets upset by it, but she does make a fool of him and taunt him mercilessly. He’s also been chilling in the North for a decade, where women aren’t encouraged to be all hardarse to the extent that the harsher Iron Islands might allow (Bear Island perhaps excepted).

    I haven’t read Feast for a long time though, so maybe I’ve forgotten something that makes me wrong on that.

    no, you’re quite right…except,
    VERY MILD SPOILER BOOK 2 / 4
    damphair’s strenuos opposition to asha (he keeps saying stuff like “a woman cannot lead the ironborns because the drowned god says so”)
    END SPOILER
    makes me think that theon is not the only one who isn’t comfortable with asha

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  138. Seriously
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    Chris77:
    Casting: Great
    Naming: Fail

    Even though changing a name does changenothingin the story, It still feels like dumbing down the story, because the Producers fear that the audience is too dumb to keep two drastically different characters apart. If you keep in mind how the book sales spiked in the last few month, you can be preety sure that most of the audience is familiar with the show and new viewers will most likely follow their example and read the books. Therefore the namechange will piss off a big chunk of the audience and it is totally unnecessary. I think no one will complain about two names that sound a bit similar, but as you can see in various threads, a lot of people will be bothered if they change the name… If there is no oher way, please only add a letter so we get Dasha, Tasha, Yasha, Sasha.

    Somehow, I feel itis not D & D’s fault ( I trust these guys immensely) but rather some CEO at HBO who ordered it…

    Word!

    Exept I feel like its totaly D&D`s fault.

    The first season is not even close to the awsomeness of the books. The show is just OK so far, and stupid name changes mean things are not looking up for S2.

    If anything the name change is more confusing than not changing it. Book readers will continue to refer to her as Asha (I know i will, just to spite D&D if nothing else), and TV viewers will be like; Who the f… is Asha?

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  139. Jessica C.
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    If people want to complain about the name change they are allowed to express themselves without having people tell them they are acting like children or it isn’t important to the story. It might be an insignificant detail but it might be important to that particular fan. She is one of my favorite characters so that is why I don’t really like the name change. And I would hope I would be able to say that without someone calling my opinion “nitpicking”. Excuse me for not wanting one of my favorite character’s name being changed, especially to a name I didn’t particularly like. Some of the fans on here had some really great suggestions.

    Regarding the actress, I always hold off my judgment until I’ve seen them on the show. I can’t judge an actor’s range and ability by a TV commercial, sorry.

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  140. Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Elena Amici,

    Ah yes, now I remember. Damphair is a religious nutbag though; even in the real world we get his type saying it’s ungodly for women to do certain things (they got New Testament backing on that one, even).

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  141. Jericho
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    lol if my comment is arrogant yours is exaggerated, as want to opine if the girl I dont like, I should lie? calm down, not the end of the world.

    And Andy had the physical, for me this girl should have done the casting for Arya. To taste colors, let me not like her! lol

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  142. Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Jessica C.,

    Don’t be absurd. You have the right to express your opinion, and others have the right to express theirs; even if their opinion is that your opinion is stupid.

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  143. Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    GaR: even in the real world we get his type saying it’s ungodly for women to do certain things (they got New Testament backing on that one, even).

    lol, you are SO right :)

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  144. Jessica C.
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    GaR:
    Jessica C.,

    Don’t be absurd.You have the right to express your opinion, and others have the right to express theirs; even if their opinion is that your opinion is stupid.

    I just don’t like someone calling another person’s opinion stupid. It rubs me the wrong way.

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  145. Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Jessica C.,

    and I don’t like people complaining about minor inconsequential changes to the show.

    See how that works?

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  146. KG
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    GaR,

    I’d like to think so. It would be a shame to waste a sign of the End Times.

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  147. KG
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    GaR,

    It’s the *male* standard of behavior. The women are pretty much expected to sit down and shut up, like in the rest of the Seven Kingdoms (sigh)

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  148. Epic knows nothing
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Lex: I don’t think people would be NEARLY as bothered.

    I tend to agree, because in the books at least, Asha Greyjoy is a hot, cool-as-hell big sister, and an ass-kicking pirate chick. Meanwhile Osha is a plain, too tall, uneducated, dirty, unattractive wildling who kind of just goes away.

    Speculation: What people don’t know yet (which would really piss Asha fans off) is that the show is going to shrink Asha Greyjoy to a typically tiny (‘just enough’) part. Osha the Wilding is going to be a bigger and more significant part than the book.

    The reasons I guess this are:

    1. Natalia Tena is a greater than average actor by GoT standards.
    2. In Osha scenes in Season 1, they took pains getting it just right (especially in the hair and makeup department)
    3. Rickon has already been changed significantly and will not ‘go away’ like in the books.
    4. It’s an impossible task to make Asha Greyjoy as cool as in the books. She will be bumped down to ‘realistic’.

    /End Speculation

    Anyway, I’m glad they have Tena as Osha. She’s great. And as for Asha, I guess we’ll have to see what happens there.

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  149. white_raven
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Please HBO “yara” not really thinking of naming her that, are you?

    At this point, any name which Asha can be a diminutive of will be perfect. I vote for “Asha***”, I don’t care, just not Yara.

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  150. Epic knows nothing
    Posted August 2, 2011 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    YouTube Gemma Whelan Showreel 2010 YouTube Widescreen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7AHJlqaRrI

    Definitely a nice clips collection to get a sense of what our Yara Greyjoy will be like.

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  151. cranscape
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 12:26 am | Permalink

    Wait, are people here going to start to call her Yara too? That is…going to get old fast. It is going to be annoying enough for noobies to not know any better, but the rest of us don’t have to do it too. (draws fandom line in sand) The show might take her name but if it mucks of 10+ years of online book fandom continuity I am going to be extra pissed.

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  152. KG
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 1:53 am | Permalink

    cranscape,

    Sorry, the site is for fans of the TV SHOW, which (sorry to ruin your elitist day) includes new people. So, in order to be considerate to new fans, yes – the character on the TV SHOW is Yara.

    Don’t like it? Tough.

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  153. Ser Lurkalot
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 3:07 am | Permalink

    It never ceases to amaze me how this type of “discussion” crops up again and again in all kinds of forums across the internet. People bitching over other people’s bitching, and (like me) bitching over people’s bitching over other people’s bitching. How do people get the energy for futile efforts like this? I for one think the name change from Asha to *¤%& is annyoing. If someone wants to rage at me because of this, be my guest. But I would think that the topic at hand (the casting and the name change) is far more interesting than my insignificant opinion of it. (This comment is probably an example of triple irony, but I’m not sure.)

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  154. KG
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 3:16 am | Permalink

    Ser Lurkalot,

    K, let me see if I get this straight – You have the right to scold people for scolding other people.

    Three cheers for you, since you’re so dang special!!!

    Hyp hyp … ocrite!
    Hyp hyp … ocrite!
    Hyp hyp … ocrite!

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  155. Chris77
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 3:42 am | Permalink

    My argument as stated above is simple:

    HBO will piss of more people by the change than they will please by it.

    Considering the recent book sales I say that nearly 80% of the viewers are readers or future readers, which will be confused and/or pissed.

    Not a very clever move…

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  156. Ser Lurkalot
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 4:07 am | Permalink

    KG,

    Thank you for affirming my rights. I fail to see how I am a hyprocite since I included myself in the group I was scolding. I do think my comment was futile (like the majority of the stuff written on the internet), but that makes me pathetic, not hypocritical (necessarily).

    I dig the casting of Gemma Whelan for Asha. Hope they keep the priceless introductory scene more or less intact.

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  157. Rinso
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 4:32 am | Permalink

    Yara is a pretty awful name. Sounds like a dog name or something. And actually, I’m pretty sure they never actually said Osha’s name back in Season 1.

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  158. Posted August 3, 2011 at 5:13 am | Permalink

    KG: Sorry, the site is for fans of the TV SHOW, which (sorry to ruin your elitist day) includes new people. So, in order to be considerate to new fans, yes – the character on the TV SHOW is Yara.

    Don’t like it? Tough.

    seriously, i don’t think anyone is going to call her yara :D

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  159. MMM
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 5:26 am | Permalink

    I don’t care about the name change but I HATE the casting (based on what I’ve seen of her so far, maybe she’ll be better on the show)
    Asha’s a badass pirate bitch, I always saw her as tall and skinny and having harsh features in a weird/pretty way.
    This girl is short, chubby and plain

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  160. Posted August 3, 2011 at 6:08 am | Permalink

    Rinso,

    Other than subtitles, interviews, promotional materials, and fan videos on YouTube, you’re right — no one has ever called her Osha. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T0MD9I2PrY

    :35 second mark:

    “And you will have seen her in the best television show ever, as Osha.”

    Only note his pronunciation. (Ah-sha.)

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  161. Qthulhu
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    I guess this means Greyjoy filming soon then?

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  162. dimensionallyT
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 6:27 am | Permalink

    She looks fine enough to me. I have no problem with the idea of her name being changed but the change to Yara is bloody ridiculous. Awful name, hard to pronounce and far too close to Arya.

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  163. swornsword
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    They couldn’t come up with a better name if they absolutely had to change the name? Agreeing with the other comments that Yara is stupid. Maybe we’ll get lucky and they’ll change it before filming Asha scenes…

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  164. Posted August 3, 2011 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    My main issue with this change is that I can already picture me in a year’s time, listening to discussion from non-book readers about how awesome “Yara” is from my dark corner, while resentfully muttering “Asha. Asha is awesome,” under my breath. (Every few seconds or so I make a little twitchy movement with my hand, which I am using to stroke a hairless cat.)

    I don’t want to be That Person. :(

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  165. Kakashi
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    She looks way too soft for an ironborn. She needs to tone up a ton before the show. Then I will reevalute.

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  166. kakashi
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    By the way, her french accident is terrible in her showreel… Althoug I do kind of like the other parts of it acting-wise.

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  167. Posted August 3, 2011 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    I honestly think that if GRRM had named her Yara (and Osha was Yora) and D&D changed her name to “Asha” for the show, people would bitch and whine and declare that Asha was a horrible name, didn’t sound Ironborn at all, sounded too soft, was too close to “Ashara”, etc.

    Buncha nerds.

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  168. Posted August 3, 2011 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I like the actress; she doesn’t look very much like ASHA (call me Cleopatra, Queen of Denial) but I guess she did a great audition. I’d like to see that; it’s hard to judge from some pics and out-of-character videos. I bet she’s great fun at cons.

    No, really, Asha. The change would not matter much to me; but it’s so… pointless. As I wrote in the other thread, they could have done literally everything with the pronounciation if they wanted to differentiate her from Osha.

    I think we’re afraid of the slippery slope. Robin Arryn, yeah, ok. Roz, grumble grumble, ok. Ignored Tullys, whine whine, ok, let’s wait for S3. (S3 my ass, I won’t stop whining until S2 is over.) Alton Lannister, meh, let’s see what he does. Yara Greyjoy… why?

    The worrisome suspicion is that GRRM, for whatever reason, has let go a bit of his control over the series and D&D are making it more their show than his. I hope that’s not so. Apart from some personal disappointment such as the BloodyGate and my dislike of Roz, I enjoyed S1 enormously exactly because it followed so closely the spirit, if not the letter, of GRRM’s saga. But if GRRM entirely stops caring about the “letter”, I’m worried it could end up like the Harry Potter movies, which, frankly, have failed to impress me, despite the alleged close involvement of JK Rowling.

    I’m trying not to be too big a “purist” here. I repeat, one Yara is no big deal. But together with all the rest, it’s disquieting.

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  169. Posted August 3, 2011 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,
    LOL, when looking for a word instead of “purist” at the end of my post, the first one that came to my mind was “nerd.” :D

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  170. KG
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    It’s been clear she’s pretty much had the part for some time now. Personal trainers, careful costuming, and (if you’re an action movie hero) HGH can do wonders in a short time lol

    I don’t know if she can pull off threatening (and you don’t necessarily need to be big for that, I’ve met some very unsettling fifty year old, five-foot tall biker women) but I trust Nina Gold.

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  171. world_dancer
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Lex: I don’t think people would be NEARLY as bothered.

    Agreed.
    I think it’s that I don’t have a particular emotional attachment to Osha. She’s some wildling spearwife. Meh. I never found her particularly compelling. Call her Yara, and I don’t care.

    Asha is awesome. The character has such a strong sense of individuality that she stands out among her own people as unique (how many female pirate captains do we see? none. how many attempt to claim the Seastone Chair in the history of the Iron Islands? apparently no others). Robbing her of her name when she sets out to make herself special just seems wrong.

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  172. aleksa
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Oi!,

    This. Thank you. I’m sure the actress loves that everyone’s so hung up on the name change, and no one seems to care about her. /eyeroll

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  173. The Evil Monkey
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Why didn’t they just call her “Ashara”, “Ashley” or “Ash”? Would have been more true to the books than “Yara”…

    But it’s okay. Her part isn’t that big till now (haven’t had the time to read Dance with Dragons yet though). I’m looking forward to the second season.

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  174. loco73
    Posted August 3, 2011 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Welcome to the cast Gemma! I hope you have a good time on set and get the full “Game Of Thrones” treament. All the best to you.

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  175. Posted August 3, 2011 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    kakashi,

    Of course the accent is bad. The scene contained over-the-top acting to get to the punchline about all the angst being over a fry.

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  176. Posted August 4, 2011 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Looks too soft

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  177. Posted August 4, 2011 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Do you think the producers realise that Yara is an anagram of Arya?

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  178. dimensionallyT
    Posted August 4, 2011 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    world_dancer: Robbing her of her name when she sets out to make herself special just seems wrong.

    I agree! It feels like a betrayal. Utterly irrational of me I know, but still. I can’t help it!

    Nichael Bluth: My main issue with this change is that I can already picture me in a year’s time, listening to discussion from non-book readers about how awesome “Yara” is from my dark corner, while resentfully muttering “Asha. Asha is awesome,” under my breath. (Every few seconds or so I make a little twitchy movement with my hand, which I am using to stroke a hairless cat.)
    I don’t want to be That Person. :(

    I’m with you there, I am so gonna be that person. I was that person the other week when I overheard a couple of people trying to remember the names of the characters. It took all my willpower not to go and draw them family trees!

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  179. Posted August 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    I can’t wait to see what Gemma does with Yara.

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  180. deyan
    Posted August 4, 2011 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Well, here we have first big blunder from the producers.

    Name change is bad…does USA audience consists of idiots and the name Asha will confuse them ?

    Also, casing is terrible. ASha is a warrior not this funny looking little girl.

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  181. val
    Posted August 4, 2011 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Asha’s name change for the TV series is retarded. She is a popular character and much discussed by fans of the books and tv show. Having two different names for a key character will only confuse fans more than leaving osha/asha as is.

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  182. Mark Hatton
    Posted August 4, 2011 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Well, I guess we’ll see. From the photos I’ve seen she looks pretty in cute, college student sort of way. I always saw Asha as far more rakish. I imagined a young Famke Janssen or a young Linda Fiorentino.

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  183. axia777
    Posted August 6, 2011 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Lots of people complained when Addy was cast as Robert. He nailed it. Lots of people complained of Coster-Waldau when he was cast as Jaime. Yet again the person cast nailed the performance and the character. Then people complained when Heady was cast as Cersi. She nailed it and will continue to do so just like the rest of the cast of the show.

    The complainers are going to have to eat a huge helping of crow pie when Gemma Whelan nails the part, shows you a side of her we have never seen before, and then becomes Asha/Yara. They just need to send her to waight training like Mamoa and then weapons training to be scary with an axe!

    Though I am not happy about the name change I can see why they did it. People are all ready having a hard time keeping track of all the character and plot threads. They are making this show for more than just the hardcore fans like us. They are making it for the general population too. Without the general population who has never read the books this show would not be as successful. Maybe they will read the books now. Maybe they wont. But my point remains the same. People get confused and the producers worried about the names being to similar. Oh well, move on.

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  184. Zmajevic
    Posted August 6, 2011 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    axia777,

    People have a right to complain when they like…Yes, sometimes some objections are ridiculous and sometimes they are premature…But the name change is a big freakin deal!!! I’m a long time fan of the books…and ASHA is important character in my mind…so I have every right to be pissed, like many other fans (just look at GOT face book page). And ASHA is a warrior chick, commander of her own ship, and other Iron fleets. We are supposed to believe that when we see this small, cute Gemma girl, who looks nothing of a sort.
    Someone said –Famke Janssen, Linda Fiorentino, yes, that’s the look for the role!

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  185. axia777
    Posted August 6, 2011 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Zmajevic,

    Did I ever say you did not have a right to be pissed of or complain? Nope. I never did. I just pointed out that in the end when Gemma shows her stuff on screen in GOT that lots of people, the complainers, are going to be proven very wrong. The casting people would have not hired her if they did not feel she was up to the job.

    Oh, and by the way, I said I agree with you about the name change. Maybe you missed that part in my post. But like I said, it is done, time to move on. There is nothing any of us can do about it. As long as they keep Asha/Yara’s characteristics the same as from the book and Gemma portrays the character well then I am good with it.

    I have also been a fan since the first book was printed. So I have a lot of fandom invested in the series. Just like most of the other people here.

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  186. kakashi
    Posted August 6, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    axia777,

    The amount of muscle mass you can build as a woman during this short time is not nearly enough to transform her to have an athletic look. The best thing we can hope for is that they go with simply slimming her down to make her leaner/meaner.

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  187. Zack
    Posted August 6, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    axia777: Then people complained when Heady was cast as Cersi. She nailed it

    ……you lost me there.

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  188. axia777
    Posted August 6, 2011 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    kakashi:
    axia777,

    The amount of muscle mass you can build as a woman during this short time is not nearly enough to transform her to have an athletic look. The best thing we can hope for is that they go with simply slimming her down to make her leaner/meaner.

    Asha/Yara is not large in the muscles department. She is supposed to be lean, like a light weight boxer. That is not hard to do at all. Building mass is hard. Toning what one all ready has is not that much work really. She does not need to bulk up at all. Besides, three quarters of the performance is not what she looks like but the attitude she projects.

    Zack: ……you lost me there.

    Why? Lena is awesome as Cersi. She is maniacal, manipulative, and all most psychotically over protective of the kids. How is she not perfect barring a few physical differences of the character from the books.

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  189. kakashi
    Posted August 15, 2011 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    axia777,

    Well, let´s agree to disagree….

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