You know nothing, Jon Snow! EW’s James Hibberd broke the news in his Inside TV column: we have a wildling!
At last and after months of speculation we now know: Rose Leslie, formerly part of the fantastic Downton Abbey cast, has landed the much-coveted part of the wildling Ygritte in the second season of Game of Thrones.
The 24-year old Leslie has had little screen experience prior to her role on Downton, but the Emmy-beloved PBS show had a knack for finding just the right sort of British talent, so why shouldn’t Nina Gold mine that rich vein?
And Rose Leslie certainly looks the part! She’s a natural redhead with a swath of freckles across her cheeks and brow—much as Ygritte is described. There will likely be no need for wigs on this one, unless they’re demanding a shaggier look.
“Kissed by fire” indeed.
IMDB does not list Leslie as part of the Downton cast for season two, so it’s possible she opted for Game of Thrones (where Ygritte plays a much more prominent role) rather than continue her Downton storyline, but that’s of course just speculation. There’s always the possibility she could play both roles if shooting schedules are juggled just so, if the show decides Gwen needs to return… though Gwen did land her dream job as a secretary outside of Downton by season one’s end.
Fire And Blood: As a Downton Abbey fan, I really like this choice! Leslie’s character Gwen was perhaps one of the lesser-used Downton roles, but her distinctive face and demeanor made me notice her right away (I think her first episode was somewhere mid-first season). Gwen was anything but “wildling,” so she’s clearly not getting typecast. Welcome to the family, Rose!

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YAY
OhWhoCaresQuote Reply
Kissed by fire. With frizzy hair = perfect
Franny BeeQuote Reply
Finally, my favorite character is cast, and what a great performer! Welcome, Rose!
WhiteotterQuote Reply
I like it. She’s good on Downton Abbey, which is a great show btw, and shares some similarities with GoT. Backstabbing, scheming, money grubbing…highly recommended.
More Rice CooksQuote Reply
Perfect
David BradfordQuote Reply
Welcome rose!
SuperdeluxeQuote Reply
she looks like a Kennedy… don´t you think?
Like her a lot.
Got a job as secretary that´s why she´s no longer working in Downton Abbey.
andreaQuote Reply
I just discovered Downton Abbey and it is fantastic, and Rose Leslie is wonderful in it.
JoseQuote Reply
so… were’s Jojen and Meera Reed? Haven’t seen their casting yet and i really look foward to them :~
MellissaQuote Reply
Special props to Katja who suggested Rose as Ygritte waaaaay back eons ago
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
Don’t know anything about her. I look forward to seeing Ygritte onscreen. Welcome!
ZackQuote Reply
Saving the best casting news for last, they were. Rose just came out of left field, and is beyond anything I could’ve hoped for.
As a fan of Downton Abbey, I was bummed when it appeared that Gwen wouldn’t be returning for Season 2. So to see her in my other favorite show as one of the parts I’ve been following the most is just…a dream come true.
Since this is being played as a “major” part, I hope we get to see her for more than one episode next season.
SarahQuote Reply
As did Schlafmohn back in the Ygritte-specific casting thread!
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
You know nothing.
Séan Llew ÆrisQuote Reply
Actually, katja was the one who first mentioned Rose in both threads. Schlafmohn only repeated what Katja said a few hours earlier in the Ygritte-specific casting thread.
Epic knows nothingQuote Reply
I’m thrilled with this casting news. Just hearing the quality of her voice in Downton Abbey; the way it is a bit hoarse, but more importantly the general independence an self-reliance that she so naturally exudes in that show makes her, to me, a perfect no brainer choice for Ygritte. The northern accent doesn’t hurt a bit either.
Epic knows nothingQuote Reply
Awww, gwen was such a sweetie in Downton Abbey, way better than the new maid. I’m sure she’s going to look completely different as Ygritte!! I hope that they shy away a bit from the Osha crazyhair and don’t make all the wildling women look like crazy cat ladies. That was just… silly lol. :)
userjQuote Reply
Rose looks like she will be a great Ygritte!
I wonder if we will be hearing about Meera & Jojen Reed, Ramsey Snow and any Tulleys soon? Who else are we missing? I really hope HBO keeps the Reed kids and has the Tulleys show up at some point.
winterqueenQuote Reply
Looking a bit more Ygritte like in the pic at this link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2010/sep/10/bedlam-review
MormegilQuote Reply
She looks perfect – and she’s moving from one show with a great cast to another. Very pleased with this announcement. :)
EvilPicnicQuote Reply
I dont think the Reeds will appear in the tv series from what I’ve heard. Osha will lead Bran north of the wall.
Hopefully I’ll be proved wrong.
HelbrechtQuote Reply
Hurrah!!
Avid Downton Abbey fan that I am I can’t but approve.
JennyQuote Reply
Good casting choice. I only saw one episode of Downton Abbey, but I distinctly remember liking this actress. So exciting! I’m looking forward to Jon/Ygritte scenes, though I’m surprised they will be covered in season 2.
DreamlifeQuote Reply
I’ve never watched Downton Abbey, but hear only good things about it, so if she made a bit of an impression there I’m confident she’ll repeat it beyond the Wall as well. Look-wise she’s another amazing cast – love the hair!!!
Tar KidhoQuote Reply
HURRAY!!!! EXCELLENT CHOICE!!!!
I can see her with Kit very easily. So happy.
LMMacNQuote Reply
you should! It is a very good show with an exquisite casting.
andreaQuote Reply
Epic knows Actually,
Thanks for that correction! I was way off.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
Wonderful!
Maxwell JamesQuote Reply
WONDERFUL CHOICE
IT IS KNOWN.
Honest JerkQuote Reply
HURRAY! I miss her in Downton Abbey, glad I could see her again in TV soon.
MoeQuote Reply
Don’t know her, but she looks pretty much perfect to me.
LexQuote Reply
Helbrecht,
And if the reeds become end game game characters? What then
SuperdeluxeQuote Reply
Superdeluxe,
Couldn’t the same be said for the blackfish?
DoogQuote Reply
Loved her in Downton Abbey. She’ll be great.
PuzzlnutQuote Reply
Too red-headed and too freckly. …….
Pastor_of_MuppetsQuote Reply
Excellentttttttt! She was one of the highlights in Downton Abbey, a great series (but if you really think about it just one big soap opera set 100 years ago, still really well done).
Is there a website where I can bet money on HBO excluding the Reeds and the Blackfish? I always lose bets so this seems something I must do.
KnurkQuote Reply
Hey Mr! What are you talking about???
I think I understand what you say but still … Hey!
andreaQuote Reply
She’s an excellent actress. Too bad I hate Ygritte. But I’m pretty sure she will do a brilliant job!
Nathallya LicioQuote Reply
I loathed Viserys, but Harry Lloyd was so brilliant I came to like him in a perverse way. I understood his motivations more than in the book. Perhaps this will happen.
LMMacNQuote Reply
She looks very Ygritte-ish.
WhiteWalker,TxRangerQuote Reply
Great. I hope she can say
‘YOU KNOW NOTHING, JON SHOW”
Nimble DickQuote Reply
Looks great! She even seem to have eyes that are a little far apart, like Ygritte.
sjweningsQuote Reply
That’s a great casting. I loved her on Downton Abbey.
Amir MishaliQuote Reply
YES YES YES FINALLY!
John-Michael LelievreQuote Reply
I really like this casting, seems they are preparing for Iceland. I bet that we will see castings for Quohrin, Rattleshirt shortly…
Regarding the Reeds amd Bolton, I think that their scenes are yet to film, so we have no confirmations yet. Looking at it that way, when these castings finally happen, we might even get the Walders;)
Same could be true with the Tullys (but I guess that they will be pushed to S3, because including them would also mean a new costly location)
I am not really worried about the Reeds, because Ramsay is yet to be cast (and honestly he WILL NOT be cut, all that combining him with Roose is NONSENSE).
Chris77Quote Reply
To play a character described as red-headed and freckly??
Can’t tell if trolling or just stupid.
youandwhosearmyQuote Reply
Oh hello, good morning! Excellent.
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
no. you cant compare the reeds to the blackfish, the reeds ARE essential to the storyline of bran (which most likely will be game-changing). as much as i love the blackfish, he is, for now, replaceable – and if thats gonna change, he can be introduced later. but the really important reed/bran story starts NOW, not in book 6.
and i dont think rickon and osha vanished completely, they will also have a purpose on the whole story. rickon is a fucking stark. sending osha with bran would be a freaking tsunami dragon effect, not just a small butterfly effect.
Mario MjoedQuote Reply
I have to say, although I am unfamiliar with her work, she looks like she could be a perfect Ygritte. She is pretty, but not in a model sense… Ygritte is kind of an earthy beauty, in my mind anyhow. I look forward to seeing her scenes with Jon.
Damryn of DorneQuote Reply
I guess I can’t put off watching Downton Abbey any longer now.
Johan SporreQuote Reply
Mormegil,
yes yes yes yes and a million yes !!!
Firass BouzQuote Reply
Well, if you think of it, GoT has a lot of soap opera elements too – and they’re standing out on TV, with the battles lacking.
In any case, I agree about Downton Abbey. I think it’s basically Pride and Prejudice serialized but the acting is great, the characters grow on you from the very first moment, the pacing is harmonious and it evoked a great sweet atmosphere full of nostalgia. Love the series. Glad Rose is on board with GoT.
Aryas Horse CharleQuote Reply
Mario Mjoed,
I agree the Reeds are essential. Their role is not only to bring Bran from A to B, but to flesh out Brans group. Just Osha and Hodor would be a bit depressing in an already dire situation. What are we supposed to think? “Poor kid – legless and no friends his age.”?
I’m a fan of well done groups, with various personalities (Hm… Firefly, Stargate SG1, even Sailor Moon… stereotypes maybe, but balanced out).
Aryas Horse CharleQuote Reply
Great news everyone!
Also, the tumblrs have already started:
http://i55.tinypic.com/nv7a1f.png
the goatQuote Reply
youandwhosearmy,
I believe the Pastor was being ironic. Because literally no one has criticized this casting yet, which is a little unprecedented.
Especially given that an actress was cast—and women get the bulk of the snarks as far as trolling goes.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
So surprised (never heard about her for Ygritte before) but definitly perfect ! Can’t wait to see her on TV ;)
LLQuote Reply
Love it!!!
Grant GouldQuote Reply
So, am I stepping out of line if I (kindly) ask HBO to swap the actresses playing Gilly and Ygritte? I like them both and here lies the problem. The more I’m comparing their pictures, the more I’m convincing myself that I’m right.
Then again, I’ve always thought the exact same thing for Theon and Viserys too. Don’t know, it must be me…
Kael of the LakeQuote Reply
Awsome! A redhead playing a redhead. No need for awkward wigs and browgate indeed!
clemintineQuote Reply
Perfect!
I’ve been waiting for this one, I love Ygritte.
Welcome to the show Rose….and the fandom!
dimensionallytQuote Reply
I have seen her in Downton Abbey. She has the looks for the Ygritte but her role in DA didn’t really show how can she act like a spearwife.
Ivan PopićQuote Reply
Glad we finally have the role cast and she looks perfect for the part.
I guess we’re just waiting on the possible Jojen and Meera Reed castings now. I know some think we will miss them but that could be a gamble. We still don’t know the true extent of the Reed House’s role later in the story. Given Ned’s references to Howland Reed I think there’s more to come from that family and some of it will be very tricky to cover by other roles. It’s hard enough to cover that Jojen essentially teaches Bran how to warg at will.
HouseLarkQuote Reply
I’m a huge fan of Downton Abbey and am OBSESSED with Game of Thrones. Couldn’t be more excited about this casting news.
My next GoT wish is for some set pics from Pyke to emerge with Alfie Allen and Gemma Whelan as Theon and Asha Greyjoy.
I NEEEEED THIS!
vikkiQuote Reply
This is great, i was a bit scared that they would go for a manic pixie dreamgirl type but this actress looks just right.
Tessa LeonieQuote Reply
Lovely!
Never watched DA (will correct that asap), but Ms Leslie certainly looks the part.
Now, pretty please – no pining for the Reeds and Tullys etc. in this thread, people. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be hugely disappointed as well as confused if they left them out entirely, but for now let’s just rejoice that at least this one long wait is over and we have our Ygritte.
PS: to avoid confusion – I’ve been posting as “Jennyn”, but there is a “Jenny” here and that made me want to go for something a little more distinctive.
HirondelleQuote Reply
great!! I loved her character in Downton Abbey. Let’s see if her portrayal of Ygritte makes me like the character a bit better (as Emilia did with Dany) :)
ieiazelQuote Reply
Now this is intriguing. Mainly because I have no clue what it means. Try as I might, my imagination fails me. Got any examples? Who would fit that bill? I’m not saying it doesn’t make sense, maybe I just like the words (not as a description of Ygritte though)…
HirondelleQuote Reply
lily*cough*cole
LMMacNQuote Reply
Fire And Blood,
“Way off”. Well either way, I think it’s pretty amazing that this one person was behind Rose.
Epic knows nothingQuote Reply
I really liked her in Downton Abbey. This is a really good choice.
HollyoakQuote Reply
I absolutely love Downton Abbey! And though her role in that excellent show was small, Rose gave a memorable performance as a young maid striving for self-betterment. I cannot wait to see what she does with Ygritte. For me, her trial by fire will be the delivery of Ygritte’se most iconic line: “You know nothing, Jon Snow.” If she nails this, I will love her forever! BTW, I am feeling more than a little resentful of her getting to kiss (and then some) the beautiful Kit Harington. I can only hope the chemistry between these two is enough to set us all afire.
LanaQuote Reply
Right, got it. Thanks. Have to say, I’m glad this particular cup of manic pixie dreamgirlishness passed us by…
HirondelleQuote Reply
LMMacN,
I’m with you on Lily possibly being the more compelling choice, especially for her wilder, more striking features and expression; but I say, let’s give Rose a chance, she may very well surprise us, others certainly have. ; )
LanaQuote Reply
I love this casting, she suits the role perfectly and is a great way to start my essay writing concerning America and the new deal . I really hope we hear about the Reeds and Ramsey as those three are very important and I do like the Reeds a lot.
SarahQuote Reply
I blush to admit it, but I’m with you on this one. *sigh*
Also, hopefully the scenes with her (and throughout his storyline in season 2) will give Kit a chance to find his stride and grow into the role of Jon “You know nothing” Snow.
HirondelleQuote Reply
LMMacN,
Oh, I’m sorry, my last reply to you was something of a blunder, wasn’t it? (that will teach me to read the comments more carefully before replying). You meant to say that you are NOT, as it were, Team Lily. *feeling extremely foolish at the moment* Well, as I was saying, I understand those who are , but I’m quite happy with the casting of Rose.
LanaQuote Reply
Seems like another good casting decision by Nina – I’m looking forward to seeing her on the show.
Katja got there first on both counts, but from what I can tell Schlafmohn hadn’t seen this and identified Rose Leslie independently when looking through the Hamilton Hodell talent agency website so still deserves some props.
NinepennyQuote Reply
I understand what you’re saying, but did you dislike his performance in season 1?
LanaQuote Reply
LOL! If the “real” Ygritte would see “her” picture in Downton Abbey she would definitely spear the photographer!
UdiQuote Reply
She looks just perfect. Not too pretty, not too ugly and feisty enough. Concerning her acting skills I guess I’ve got to trust Nina Gold, she’s a lot more qualified than yours truly in that regard.
I can’t imagine throwing the Reeds out. Who knows what role Osha has yet too play in future books (I’m halfway into A Dance for Dragons). Also getting worried about the Goat and his Brave Companions for the next season, but I guess they can be pushed to season 3 (depends on what part of Jaime’s story is in the 2nd season). I need to have my shagwell and septon utt and the other comical horrors.
Ramsay Bolton will be in (I should hope, we need evil guys if we ever get to the 5th/6th season). But as mentioned by someone before I don’t think they will announce him because of spoilers.
BlaatQuote Reply
Right on! more T&A! enter cave scene nekkidness!
Umm, on a more serious note, she looks like another good call by Nina.
(But I do look forward to cave scenes…) :)
SidQuote Reply
Lana,
No, no. Dislike is definitely too strong a word here. He just seemed a little unsure at times, tending to overact and underact (if that is even a word) a wee bit, which I put down to his lack of experience. He has huge potential, as far as I can see. And now I think about it, it actually makes perfect sense to act like a moody teenager. Because, when you get down to it, that’s exactly what Jon is in AGoT.
You were happy with his performance all the way, I take it? Cool! I’m glad Kit has fans, because he deserves it.
HirondelleQuote Reply
Lana,
Sorry if you misunderstood. I loathed the idea for Lily Cole for this part and won $100 from my neighbor because she didn’t get it. I was using her as an example as the wrong “pixie dreamgirl” type.
Rose is perfect.
LMMacNQuote Reply
Lana,
It’s all good. :)
LMMacNQuote Reply
Liliy Cole isn’t a good example as she has the stature to pull off the spearwife role. The archetype for the manic pixie dreamgirl is Natalie Portman in Garden State. To be honest, if Emilia Clarke had played Dany a bit more highly strung then she’d have fallen into the category as well. She dodged that bullet very well.
HouseLarkQuote Reply
FINALLY!! *does happy dance* My inner Ygritte-fangirl can rest easy – Rose was awesome in Downton and I’m so, so stoked that she’s coming on board. Even my inner KH-fangirl is relatively happy with this one : P
Aaaahhh, I’m so relieved!!
KeziaQuote Reply
wow, that’s great. I LOVED her in Downton Abbey, and i’m both kinda sad because i can stop blackfishing.. for a while
EDIT: although i can find something new to complain about… i could start saying she’s too pretty for the part. I’ve been saying the same for months about KH last year, it kept me busy
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
HEY!!! No one has said it yet, so I will:
LORD’S KISS
Gratuitous happy cave phrase. That is all. :)
LMMacNQuote Reply
HouseLark,
nice, more definitons of “manic pixie dreamgirl” incarnate. Fresh angles. I appreciate it. Natalie Portman in Garden State as an example I definitely get. That was one freaky fey filly. But Lily Cole’s stature strikes me as being a little too petite to be a convincing spearwife. I mean, she’d have to be able to lift an actual spear, right? Climb mountains, withstand the cold, fend off grabby wildling blokes, you get my drift. I’m not familiar with Lily Cole’s image or acting skills. In truth, I’d never heard of her outside this forum. So I can’t really judge. She just has this ethereal “Look at me, I’m a faerie” thing about her, which I think wouldn’t suit Ygritte all that well. What’s on your list of pro’s for her as a good casting choice (the wide-set eyes and firekissed hair are there, I guess)?
HirondelleQuote Reply
LMMacN,
god, you just made me remember about the merkin debate we had a couple months ago. LOL!
EDIT: Hirondelle, i olny watched in a DW episode, which was bad. I didn’t like here, but she played a crazy siren so i don’t think i can judge her.
If you want to know how she looks, just google her! —–>
http://www.google.com/search?q=lily+cole&num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Vyw&rls=org.mozilla:it:official&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PjSUTtCbC8jTsgbzm53vBQ&ved=0CEAQsAQ&biw=1787&bih=934
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Hirondelle,
Re the manic pixie dreamgirl: it’s a type of character discribed by Nathan Rabin as ‘ that bubbly cinematic creature that exists solely in the fevered imaginations of sensitive writer-directors to teach broodingly soulful young men to embrace life and its infinite mysteries and adventures’
There are some good examples at the wiki page. Point is Ygritte can go that way quite easily but with this casting I have some hope that it won’t.
I must say that in between reading and rereading ACOK I did rewrite Ygritte quite substancially in my head. When rereading I suddenly began to understand some of the antipathy towards this character, however as my head proves it is possible with a couple of tweaks (and a good actress which I believe we now have) to make Ygritte in something ‘more’.
Tessa LeonieQuote Reply
Superdeluxe,
I’m just going on what I’ve heard. I don’t want to say too much more but they’re absent from some notable scenes they should be in. As I said, I hope I’m wrong and that it turns out to be another late casting.
HelbrechtQuote Reply
Fantastic find, in my opinion. I’ve never watched Downton Abbey, but I’ve only heard great things about it. I know nothing (lolz) about this girl’s acting abilities, but I’m sure if she’s coming from a show that aired on PBS she’s very talented. In terms of looks, I think she’s perfect. Thank God we didn’t get a “Hollywood” Ygritte; Rose actually looks like she could be running and hunting and rolling around in caves with Jon Snow. I don’t mean this as an insult, but Rose isn’t mind-blowingly beautiful in the classic sense. She looks like a real girl, and because of that she’s going to be able to really get across the type of charm that makes Ygritte so special.
LinaQuote Reply
They just keep on nailing it on castings. Nice choice! She’s perfect, she’s beautiful on one photo and ugly on the other!
Miguel MoreiraQuote Reply
I like her. Thumbs up.
DenisQuote Reply
This! And slurps! :)
SidQuote Reply
I suddenly wonder.. if they are making Ygritte into a bigger role, might they *SPOILER*
have Jon arrow her instead of random Night’s Watch man?
DiscoQuote Reply
She looks great for Ygritte, I hope she and Kit work well together.
ShinyteapotQuote Reply
I can’t believe those two pictures are of the same woman. I have to check out Downtown Abbey.
John WQuote Reply
Actually I hope the writers don’t throw that phrase in all the time. I know it’s Ygritte’s thing but it’s one of the reasons I just don’t like the character. If I was constantly told I knew nothing, I’d get pretty upset! Find something new to say Ygritte!
P.S. I assume you meant to say “Jon Snow” and not “Jon Show”….. lol
BroQuote Reply
Anyway it’s all very anonymous isn’t it? So you can give yourself props for all that it matters.
Epic knows nothingQuote Reply
Lina,
How exactly is Ygritte charming? Not a word I would use to describe her at all.
BroQuote Reply
Awesome, I love how they didn’t “pretty” her up, she’s exactly as described :)
LalaQuote Reply
Nina Gold is the casting director, she doesn’t actually make the final picks. I think some people have gotten very confused and are crediting her with the show’s choices. She and her coworkers provide the casting pool, run auditions, narrow it down a bit, and the higher-up people on the show make the actual decisions.
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
Boy is she kissed by fire!
Perfect. Very pleased and excited to have Ygritte cast at last!
kerningQuote Reply
I find her vulnerability extremely charming. When she isn’t spearwifing, you see glimpses of her nature, how she might have been if she weren’t born into such extreme circumstances.
For example, when she is curious about the lord’s kiss, or tells Jon she wishes they could just stay in the cave forever, oblivious of the madness outside, she is lovely.
I’m a woman, I’m not even hot for her. I’m waiting for Tom Walaschiha as Jaquen, dear lord!
LMMacNQuote Reply
I could see that happening, for drama’s sake… He goes down and finds her body, rolls her over.. and there’s HIS arrow. Be a good episode closer.
EdQuote Reply
Tessa Leonie,
Now this is exactly what I wanted to know. Cheers for the wiki tip! Types of characters as plot devices – crafty, but also slightly depressing (such as Khal Drogo, perhaps?)…
HirondelleQuote Reply
This is true, but David & Dan have repeatedly credited her with finding many of these great actors, so even though they may have final say, clearly they feel that she is a big part of the process.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Interesting, but the problem is that Jon is set up as the hero character – the one pretty much unabiguously good principal in the story, and even HBO might be loath to have him kill his girlfriend. Betraying her is going to give him enough demons as it is. Besides, I think his inability to kill her during the battle is a more important character moment, and it would be awkward to have him not be able to kill her and then kill her by accident – she does stand out after all.
Re the Reeds: I think how they are going to show Bran learning how to warg at will on tv is a much bigger challenge than who teaches him/how he learns. Getting rid of the Reeds now, imo is possible, although obviously someone will have to go south with Rickon (Luwin?) But the concerns are implications going foward in the books, e.g. Meera being a love interest for Bran, the potential importance of Howland Reed (which may come up entirely separate from his kids, but we don’t know that yet – in fact, Meera may know about R+L = J and be how that news gets to the wall) and obviously whatever happens with Rickon in the White Harbor. We just don’t know enough yet to know if they’re expendible.
KalasinQuote Reply
i sure hope she has a nude scene
Thomas Chainsaw LedbetterQuote Reply
HOLY SHITE!!!
Look at this fan art someone posted on twitter a month ago! It is like a portrait of Rose.
https://twitter.com/#!/JonSnow_/status/112986862120996866/photo/1
LMMacNQuote Reply
Fire And Blood,
Thank you! Always knew she’d be perfect for this. :)
Katja IsaksenQuote Reply
Guess I’m a psychic. :D Easy call once I saw her on Downton Abbey though. She had a certain steely confidence that was just perfect.
(Why can’t I log in with Twitter now though? And how do I disconnect WiC from Facebook without actually logging out of Facebook completely?)
Katja IsaksenQuote Reply
To disconnect Facebook from WiC, go into your Facebook Account Settings, click on Apps and then Remove the Winter-Is-Coming.net app. You should be able to connect your Twitter account once you’ve removed the Facebook app.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
Well dunno anything about her yet, good casting, but not at Nina’s level. My superficial Sansa mind expected her more pretty, but whatever. My opinion seems the only opinion like this, so I’ll just shut up and agree.
KatherineQuote Reply
Just started watching Downton Abbey last night, coincidentally. Great choice!
In other Greyjoy news:
http://news.yahoo.com/lair-ancient-kraken-sea-monster-possibly-discovered-165401900.html
DaveBQuote Reply
Thanks for the FB help, but I still can’t log in with Twitter. Clicking the link just makes this page reload, adblocks or no adblocks. Ah well I’ll just use the form for now. :)
KatjaQuote Reply
Er, strike my last. Guess the website isn’t displaying properly for some reason. *confused*
KatjaQuote Reply
She so perfect! I don’t know why some don’t like Ygritte. I think shes amazing, a bit rough around the edges but wouldn’t anyone be? Life beyond the wall isn’t exactly a cake walk. I can’t wait to hear her say/purr it – “You know nothing, Jon Snow”
QueensmootQuote Reply
If you’re looking for the twitter Ygritte portrait that looks precisely like Rose, I just put it on Flickr – no blocks.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rufusmommy/6235094140/in/photostream
LMMacNQuote Reply
andrea,
Perfect. So is Game of Thrones. My dad watched the first episode skeptically, then a light bulb went on and he smiled and said, “Oh, it’s Dallas with swords!” and never missed an episode.
KGQuote Reply
I totally disagree.
An MPDG isn’t defined by whether she’s “highly strung” or not. She has no inner life and no character of her own — she’s totally defined in her existence by how she helps a male protagonist deal with his angst. See Natalie Portman in Garden State, Kirstin Dunst in Elizabethtown, etc.
Dany is not, either in the book or the series, defined by how she helps a male protagonist. She is the protagonist of her story, and therefore she cannot, by definition, be an MPDG, regardless of whether she is high strung or not. An MPDG isn’t defined by the actress’s performance, but by how the character is written in the first place.
LynnQuote Reply
KG,
Melodrama was abused by soap operas, but is still a wonderful genre that is always concealed under other genres that people consider less “shameful” (or embarrassing?, don´t know the word here). The fundamental difference will always be in the scripts (or the writing) and the acting of course!!! Just imagine an evil Joffrey/Cersei/Tywin performed by a soap opera actor…ugh
Your father knows best!
andreaQuote Reply
Will there be NO Meera?!
JoohnsonQuote Reply
You obviously don’t frequent these comment sections very often. I’ll leave it at that. Anyway, in other news, I think this was an excellent casting choice (being that she’s one of the only people cast who I’m somewhat familiar with), and I’m excited to see how D&D handle the relationship between Jon and Ygritte.
As far as the Reeds are concerned; I’m still on the fence with whether or not they need to introduce them this season or next. A Storm of Swords is obviously going to be spread across two seasons, and if that’s the case then there will be a good amount of time to “introduce” characters and settings that had happened earlier in the book series, including the Tully’s. I’m not nearly as adverse to changes being made to the source material as many seem to be, so as long as G.R.R.M. stays in the loop and helps D&D to avoid making any major continuity mistakes, I’m excited to be along for the ride.
I just try to keep in mind that a better television series (which can be achieved by making changes to the source material that just don’t work in a visual medium, believe it or not) means a longer-lasting series (because I’m fairly confident that both the fans and HBO are going to be surprised at how popular this show/book series has become between the close of the first season and the beginning of the second).
I will be pissed if they don’t cast Ramsey soon, however. That mo’-fo’ is an awesome villain.
Pastor_of_MuppetsQuote Reply
Aryas Horse Charle,
KG,
andrea,
of course every show has Soap Opera elements in it (and GoT definately has a few, jup Joffrey), but Downton Abbey really is a closeted soap. The evil butler and the evil handmaiden conspiring against the do-gooder cripple, the 20 or so love-affairs and all the unanswered love, then we have the crazy death and the jealous sisters trying to ruin eachother lives. I still enjoy the scenery, and am in love with the soundtrack, but I’m getting a little tired of the rehashed cliche stories used in the second season (let’s bring the evil butler back in the house after we got rid of him last season!).
KnurkQuote Reply
yes, it is true, I have to admit this. Thomas (the evil one) is not the buttler though, don´t remember the specific word they use to describe his job.
andreaQuote Reply
Rose Leslie has been added to http://winter-is-coming.net/features/cast/season-two/
Pardon me while /me does the victory Snoopy dance.
Epic the “Really?”Quote Reply
andrea,
he’s a footman. and he’s not evil, just misunderstood :D
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
andrea,
ha me neither so I call all the guys ‘butlers’ and all the girls ‘handmaidens.’
KnurkQuote Reply
Lynn,
so, whether someone is a MPDG depends not on their looks or demeanor, but on their role in the story as a counterpart/foil to the angstridden sensitive male main character à la Elizabethtown & Co.?
Look at me, learning new things! I love you WIC!
HirondelleQuote Reply
Wow! My Alice Henley torch bearing aside, she looks perfect and I have heard good things about her acting calibre. Congrats Rose Leslie!
Ygritte cast AND an Avengers Trailer? Today is a good day.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
oh yes, sorry. But I hate the way he smoke.
But you have to single out Brendan Coyle (Mr. Bates yours “do-gooder cripple”)… what a magnificent actor.
andreaQuote Reply
http://www.nickutopia.com/2011/10/11/house-of-anubis-season-2-halfway-through-filming-season-2-updates/
In this article, an actor called Eugene Michael Simon said he is filming GoT. I haven’t heard this name – did I miss it or is this new?
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
OhDanyBoy fetch me my breast plate stretcher.
Oi!Quote Reply
Hirondelle,
Sounds like the definition for “magical negro” cheaply applied to manga drawn women. I’m sure a myriad of essays will be published on this. They shall go up on the shelf next to Buffy Studies for the next millenia of idle research. Though personally when Buffy stopped wearing short skirts in season 2 I kind of lost interest.
I tend to think of Dany as a hero archetype without much character, drive, or personality. Does she know why she is doing any of this? Because GRRM says so. No character flaws? No, and her skin is perfect. And the actress brings our lifeless character to.. wigged out life (god bless the poor soul).
I thought Dany just wanted a little house with a red door to call home. She can get that now. Granted, I am still on page 62 of Dance, a book so rich I must start it over to understand any of it. Perhaps everything changes in Dance.
Epic the “Really?”Quote Reply
Knurk,
KG,
just remember one perfect example of melodrama mix with crime (don´t know how you name this genre): “Lone Star” a John Sayles movie.
andreaQuote Reply
There is no archetype hero more clueless than her. She´s a whole new kind of archetype hero (was this GRRM idea? I hope not, is a very poor one).
andreaQuote Reply
Kind of off-topic but I have something I need to get off my chest:
I will be first in line to say that ADWD was a disappointment especially in comparison to the first three books and the extended waiting period we were given before it was published and the material that we were given…fell short. But I will say for the survival of this television series that we need to tone down the ADWD backlash. I swear I cannot go on any chat board without some negative comment about that particular book being posted. Negative criticism is all well and good if done right, but we have people speaking of ADWD as if they were reviewing an episode of the |TV series for the first time and trashing it on the basis that it does not fit Martin’s vision. Again, this is fine, but this backlash is instilling disappointed ASOIAF fans to convince newbies to the series that ADWD is not worth reading at all and therefore probably turning them off from the show or the books as a whole. If we want the show to continue I think we need to pull our punches when it comes to discussing ADWD online, because while the negative criticism may be necessary, it will have repercussions for the future of the series, and given the fact that Winds of Winter will probably not see bookshelves until 2014 or something, that is a lot of time to waste words on the subject. This is the tactic that I am going to use anyway, but I really think we should bite our tongues regarding ADWD whilst dealing with the Newbies.
Feel free to disagree.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
andrea,
Ouch, that bite is going to hurt. Just waiting for the defenders of Dany to rise from the shadows any minute now.
I have to agree with you regarding Brendan Coyle. Not an easy role and he brings it close to the edge.
Epic the “Really?”Quote Reply
andrea,
Unfortunately that seems to be the general interpretation regarding Daenerys,
She was a teenage girl who messed up big time and seems to possibly be getting back to the core of her character by the end of ADWD. I choose to be optimistic from this point on and trust that Martin is going to make Winds of Winter a game changer.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Well, it’s a good point you bring up. And I think that everyone knows that after the RW, some hard decisions need to be made if the show is going to go on. But I don’t think anyone’s opinion or posting is going to change much. Besides, many people loved aDwD.
But anyway, it is the writers of the show need to make the show work past the RW. By the time they get there, and with GRRM on board, they can make the show work by taking elements they need from the book and fill in the rest with more control over the content of the show. The writers just need to do this and sell it to HBO execs.
It might sound shocking (it does to me a little) but again when we get there everything will have changed and we may by then have a new book available to draw from.
Epic the “Really?”Quote Reply
Epic the “Really?”,
I am kind of lukewarm towards Dany as a character to be honest. But your snide comment on Buffy ensures me that we will never be able to agree on anything. I have long defended Buffy from comments such as “Though personally when Buffy stopped wearing short skirts in season 2 I kind of lost interest” and will continue to do so until the day I die.
I equate Buffy along with The Wire and several other programs as one of the greatest television series ever made.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Epic the “Really?”,
Oh dear, I have too much pride to say that I agree with you….I really want to, believe me but I am sworn to uphold the honour of the Buffster.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Joshua Taylor,
You really think the show will lose a lot of fans over comments on the last (horrible) book? That’s a real stretch. I’m glad a lot of people give their negative opinion about the book because GRRM thinks the only people not loving his masterpiece are trolls and sockpuppets.
KnurkQuote Reply
Well on the bright side I think Ygritte is a neat character and I can’t even imagine a better actor playing the part.
Really excited, actually.
Epic the “Really?”Quote Reply
but… I thought that we agreed on this. I misunderstood? I didn´t want to be aggressive. Must be because I love hero´s myth. Oh well.. come what may?
I saw Brendan Coyle in many shows and in all of them he was great.
andreaQuote Reply
Knurk,
Oh you did not like ADWD at all! A little bit of anger or disappointment towards GRRM perhaps? Your reactionary statement indicates that you have long been defending yourself against accusations of being a Troll. Well, I don’t think you are.
I am actually more concerned with the majority of the newbies who liked the first season and the first book but could not get through the proceeding books because of its “bleakness”. I think a lot of the newbies thought the tragic stuff ended with Ned Stark and reading what follows that they are not willing to waste their time with all the depressing goings-on that will be resolved in…how many years from now? This I have gauged from the reactions of a dozen or more people I know who read the books (or tried to) after the show aired.
And the general backlash against ADWD is just more ammunition towards people not continuing the series. Martin will really have to wow us with the next book.
Then again, its possible that even those people who were turned off from the novels may simply not liked some of Martin’s graphic depictions and may decide to only watch the TV series. It’s hard to say.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Joshua Taylor,
if I believed that what I say is good for something or someone…I should be a whole new person and maybe I could change the world. But I don´t believe that, unfortunatly.
But I can keep my mouth shut, no big deal. It´s not that important.
oh man, write this in English was very difficult for me.
andreaQuote Reply
We definitely agree on this! I’m just not used to people agreeing so heartily. Thinking on it, I must have underestimated the general perception of Dany. Perhaps there are no defenders rushing to the rescue. Perhaps we are only beating a dead horse after all.
Epic the “Really?”Quote Reply
oh, ok.
We know that heroes have to resist a little at first …but “a little” and “at first”.
No! not a dead horse please! I feel mean now.
andreaQuote Reply
andrea,
I’m not saying to NOT criticize ADWD. All I am saying and not to you in particular is to tone down the invective and GRRM bashing and be a bit more optimistic about it. Constructive criticism is a positive thing believe it or not, but outright condemnation will not help the cause.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Epic the “Really?”,
Actually, people who defend Dany are scarce (at least I think so). For example, my own mother was one very strong Dragon Mama supporter, but she agrees whole heartily that Dance was a flop. She actually said this and I agree; that Dany had a certain way and personality about her in the beginning that George sort of lost along the way.
Anyone could defend her and say Dany’s young, she’s just learning, etc. but would we want to? No, she was a huge disappointment – arguably the worst part of the book. There are reasons for her actions, but that doesn’t mean we have to like them, or her.
E.g, Cercei has her reasons for being a biatch, and we know that, but that doesn’t mean we forgive her. :P
The InstrumentalistQuote Reply
Joshua Taylor,
I think that tensions are high, and we just waited so long for something that felt like it had no resolution. It’s only a few months after Dance’s release and we’re frustrated still (and maybe will be till WOW). I for one would not hesitate to say Dance was the worst of the books, even to any newbie. It was good, alright, but not up to par with the other four books.
I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t think by bashing the fifth book we’ll scare off any newbies. They might even want to read for themselves, to see what has everyone else so pissed off. And if they decide not to read them, it’s their own loss. ASOIAF is quite popular. I don’t think we’ll have anything to worry about.
The InstrumentalistQuote Reply
Joshua Taylor,
I think I understand what you´re saying and I too believe that she will change in AWoW and for that reason I can shut up but I don´t believe that close my mouth will change anything. I did not take it personal, don´t worry.
andreaQuote Reply
Haha no, the only person ever accusing me of being a troll is GRRM. When someone on his blog asked what he thought about he negative reviews this book was getting on Amazon, GRRM went on saying those reviews were probably written by trolls and sockpuppets. Because all the media loved his book, he stood atop the NYT-list for weeks and everyone he meets in real life says it’s a good book he refuses to believe there are a lot of unhappy fans. I was dissappointed in the book, but I’m more annoyed by his attitude toward fans which was downright disrespectful.
KnurkQuote Reply
The Instrumentalist,
Believe it or not some people do defend Dany in that manner.
Regarding Cersei, I loved her in ADWD. I thought her character was revitalized after the Walk. She is going to go out in a blaze of glory. I both hate and love her character.
I also think that Cersei and Jaime are Aerys’ bastards and that Jaime is Azhor Azhai.
And speaking of the Walk, is Lena going to do that scene I wonder? It’s a bold move even for an HBO series, but if done right it could be astounding. They will have trouble with all of those tattoos though!
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
I liked ADWD, I just thought it ended too soon. But then do you make a 8,000 page book? Also, I had wished certain characters had met in Mereen, that was frustrating as a fan. But two spectacular deaths, and anything with a Greyjoy in it was amazingly good. Better than most other books I read this year.
BieberFeiverQuote Reply
Back on topic….. I Love Rose Leslie!!!!!! Yay Ygritte, one of my favorite characters!!
BieberFeiverQuote Reply
Joshua Taylor,
Oh, I’m sure they do. I’m just saying there are far fewer then you might have once guessed. And I do have a special appreication for Cercei’s character. I too believe they are Aerys’ children, though no one really listens to what I have to say…
Never thought of Jaime being AA. I can’t shake the feeling that Jon’s always had it coming though. I do hope Jaime gets some sort of happy conclusion in this (even if it is a good death). He’s my favourite character by far, and I do think he will come out as a hero in the end, and do the right thing.
A little Brienne romance would be nice as well, but I guess I can’t have everything I want. ;) She sort of pulled a quick one on him, who knows what’s going to happen there. Damn George for only giving us one Jaime chapter!
The InstrumentalistQuote Reply
BieberFeiver,
Well I don’t know about 8,000, but does 500 count? :P
And YES! The Greyjoys were the best parts! I’m a Theon lover, I must admit. You can hate me all you want, his chapters were fantastic.
The InstrumentalistQuote Reply
Hirondelle,
I am a fan because I feel his overall vibe is right for the character, but I do understand what you mean about his performance being at times erratic. I agree with you, he does have tremendous potential, and I firmly believe that as his character develops, so too will his delivery. As you so rightly pointed out, in AGoT Jon is going through his “rebel without a cause” phase of brooding and being at odds with the world, which I think Kit captured quite well. I look forward to seeing what he does with the character next. : )
LanaQuote Reply
LMMacN,
A 100$? Good on you, my friend! I pity the fool who takes up a wager against you.
LanaQuote Reply
Well, I wouldn’t call Dany my favorite character, but I didn’t hate reading about her in ADWD as much as other seemed to. I’m spoilering the rest just in case. I thought Martin did a good job depicting how much easier it is to conquer a place than it is to actually rule it. The truth is Dany is young and inexperienced and she lacked advisors like Jorah who would tell her and force her to listen to the cold, hard truth. Jorah was the one who convinced Dany she needed an army and that the Unsullied were a way to get one. Selmy is a good guy and a good defender, but he is essentially a yes-man. When Dany meets up with Tyrion finally in the next book, I think he will be a huge help. Also, it’s apparent Dany has finally learned some hard truths about ruling, so I am really looking forward to seeing her evolve in the next book, even if it was a bit difficult to see her go through her character arc in the 5th.
StarkgirlQuote Reply
Winter Is Coming,
Yeah, she narrows down the pool, meaning she gathers up actors, resumes (CVs), and begins the process. But people crediting Nina Gold with actually selecting an actor for a role, that’s just plain wrong. And I’m seeing that here, on tumblr, everywhere.
And jeez this is troll city. Ygritte isn’t supposed to be pretty. If anyone thinks Rose isn’t pretty enough, they didn’t understand the books’ descriptions. And have poor eyes.
Steve the PirateQuote Reply
I don’t get it, who’s saying that? Seems to me this casting has a 100%-approvalrate in the commentsection.
KnurkQuote Reply
Yeah, it’s all in the hair. The wilder style to that pic should fit Ygritte nicely.
I’m starting to wonder if I should watch Downton Abbey. Netflix apparently thinks I would love it (it predicts 5/5 stars for me, which is pretty rare/ridiculous.) Where it just looks like your everyday stuffy British period piece with indecipherable accents, from what little I’ve seen of it. Might need to just bite the bullet and give it a watch. It is streaming for free, after all…
ZackQuote Reply
He’s a troubled soul ;)
He’s playing Lancel Lannister!
MoeQuote Reply
Thanks for the heads-up! I’m so pleased to see Tom Hiddleston again *fangirl mode*
MoeQuote Reply
Moe,
Tom Hiddleston and Robert Downey Jr in the same movie? had not grasped that.
Can I dance a little?
And Jeremy Renner!!!
andreaQuote Reply
The dance floor is yours ;)
I just find it a bit sad that he doesn’t get enough attention like the others. Yes, I know he’s far from being an A-list celeb (yet), but still…
MoeQuote Reply
Oi! Hiddleston – there’s a Rhaegar if they ever need one! Slap on them flowing white locks!
LMMacNQuote Reply
Moe,
I finished my tap dance. TH will get the attention he deserves just need a little time. I really like his voice.
yes! great idea!
andreaQuote Reply
Forgive me if this has been addressed already, but am I the only one that does not assume L+R=J? I’m actually starting to think L+RoBa=J, which is hidden in plain sight, it seems. Thinking about Gendry actually brought me there. Anyway, GRRM might scrap L+R=J, just because it is such a widely held assumption.
LMMacNQuote Reply
LMMacN,
for now I accept the most famous theory (R+L=J) but yours sounds good too. I sometimes think that GRRM will come out with something completely different and unexpected. What? I really don´t know
andreaQuote Reply
andrea,
He’s a loose cannon, that GRRM! :)
LMMacNQuote Reply
Knurk,
Re: “Troll city” — sometimes Salladhor Steve just needs something to froth about. And when he finds nothing he just makes shit up. Of course he realizes Leslie has the highest approval rating since Jesus. He’s just being bitchy today. We’re accustomed to it, and love him anyway. (Mostly because he runs the best GoT FLICKR site known to man.) (It’s not because of his charm.)
LMMacN, andrea,
GRRM has stated on numerous occasions that a bulk of his fans have figured out “various surprises” ahead of time, though none that he will currently name, and has stated that trying to change various endings wouldn’t make sense and would make him just look foolish. He says he credits “smart fans” and that they should be rewarded, not punished.
Fire And BloodQuote Reply
That’s good of him. I’ll take him at his word. In this particular instance, I still think JS’s parents could be anybody relevant or present around the beginning of the war. If he’s confirmed L+R=J as canon before the fact, that’s silly. Even Harington has not been told who JS’s parents are, so he’s not being overt.
LMMacNQuote Reply
Well, thank you for the info! I said earlier I´ll shut my mouth but temptation is too big (sorry Joshua) … I don´t know what to think about what GRRM said. ADwD was a kind of punishment for me. Maybe I´m just not a smart fan.
R+L= J remains the wiser theory for me and I hope he will not change it.
andreaQuote Reply
I hope Rose has freckles everywhere. Kit is slightly olive skinned. Stunning.
Cave o’ LoveQuote Reply
Yaaaaaayyyyyyyy!!!!!! Welcome to the show Rose, i loved her performance in Downton, can’t wait to see her as Ygritte. ‘You know nothing, John Snow’
you-know-nothingQuote Reply
LMMacN,
Oh my god! I’m still hoping for Benedict Cumberbatch (won’t happen) but TH would be perfect for Rhaegar!
Really want GoT fan Anna Torv for Lady Dustin or Septa Lemore though…maybe Myranda Royce? or Val?
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
this.
Also, about the DANCE discussion: i agree fans should calm down.
I think many didn’t like it because of all the hype. I mean, we all thought that a book with Jon, Tyrion and Dany chapters, after 6 years HAD to be awesome.. and we ended up with dance, which is good, but not as good as we’re used to. And that’s why fan all are so disappointed.
I’m not THAT disappointed, actually, because the only parts i was really looking forward to were Theon’s chapter (i’m a Theon fangirl) and Jon’s story arc (which i found really satisfing on the character developent level, and a bit disappointing because nothing happens… except for spoiler spoiler).
I knew i was going to skip Dany’s and Tyrion’s chapter. What a waste of pages!
PS: Yes, i dislike Tyrion. Feel free to kill me, but I’ve always disliked Tyrion, but I think i’m starting to hate him, both on a character level (being a poor misunderstood dwarf isn’t an excuse for being a horrible person. I think Cersei’s a better person than him!) and because a lot of people seems to love him (he’s witty. So what? It doesn’t make him interesting)
andrea,
cigarettes of evil ._.
amen.
LMMacN,
well, L+RoBa is almost as likely as L and Ned. Seriously :D We’ve been told that L didn’t like RoBa that much, and there’s no reason for the whole promise me thing if RoBa is the dad.
I’m in the R+L field because it’s definitively the most likely, although i kinda like N+A better… but after Dance i’m sure it’s not true
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
I resent that! That is me in real life, however I lack the patience to deal with broody men if they don’t get crazier fast! :) Just imagine Melisandre as a manic pixie dreamgirl and you have me. And yes, I am disturbed by that image also!
Love Rose as Ygritte- I was definitely thinking Lily Cole as a potential, but she does tend to look too young without makeup.
Cersei and Jaime as Aerys’ children? Would make sense with the incest and explain the Joff, but… that upsets my view of Jon Snow now! In my mind there can only be two surviving male Targaryens!
NicoleQuote Reply
Nicole,
who’s the second? I hope you’re not referring to Aegon VI the Redundant :D (i’m firmly in the YG is Illyrio’s son team)
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfIu8WEia8k&feature=player_embedded
Here’s an interview with Rose in which she talks about the show.
LisaQuote Reply
I was thinking that yes, L didn’t like RoBa very much, but them both being a little wild, they didn’t wait. RoBa wouldn’t want to wait. So because she didn’t like him, she didn’t want J to be one of HIS bastards, (even if the parents were both highborn – e.g. Edric Storm). She could still love R. Maybe this scenario is based in the fact that I don’t believe JS is a Targ. :)
BTW, I think the Reed siblings know EVERYTHING.
Cave o’ LoveQuote Reply
Two old points on the ADWD thing.
Disclaimer:I read these books in a bit of a weird timeline. I read AGOT when I was 12, and ACOK wasn’t out yet so I forgot about reading the rest until the HBO show. I remembered how much I’d loved AGOT and watched. I then re-read AGOT and devoured the next 4 books.
So I didn’t have to wait for AFFC or ADWD and that made me like both books way more. I think if I had been waiting 6 years for Dance I wouldn’t have liked it near as much. I’m not much of a control group on my own, but I think a lot of people think that hype was a factor.
Also, I really think there was a reason he wanted all this to be summed up in “five years later…” The material is really on the cusp of too much for flashback and too little for a book. Now that he’s back on the pre-planned story path, I hope that TWOW is more like ASOS which alternately had me sweating, cheering, crying, and questioning my own moral compass.
QueensmootQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
My dear husband, Cave O’ Love, xD , who never posted before but loves Ygritte, just more or less answered for me. Neither of us think Jon is a Targaryen, so we discuss his parentage in that light.
I do believe the Reed children know everything their father does.
LMMacNQuote Reply
Benedict is beautiful and distinctive, but I don’t get strength from him, like I do from Hiddleston, whom I prefer. They are both in War Horse, that should be interesting. Anna Torv would be good for any of those roles I imagine, though maybe she is too refined looking for Val.
LMMacNQuote Reply
Cave o’ Love,
i mean, if L+?=J, that makes it impossible for RoBa to be ?. The timeline doesn’t fit. If you don’t want J to be R’s, why don’t you join me in the N+A team? :D:D
I think it’s better we end this now, though. Or we need to use spoiler tags
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
I always imagined Val as somewhat refined. I mean yes she is a wildling, but she is very strong and logical. She strikes me as self possessed, someone you’d meet and think was 6 feet tall even if she wasn’t… I guess the word i’m searching for is stately?
I think Anna Torv is an excellent choice for Val but I doubt they could steal her for AGOT. I don’t recall how old Val is supposed to be. I keep thinking of her being in her 30s but she has no kids. In ASOIAF that must mean shes pretty young, like 20. If so, I think Mia Wasikowska would be amazing in the part, but HBO couldn’t get her either.
QueensmootQuote Reply
Yeah, it seems timewise, you are right. I am open to N+A. We won’t know for maybe a decade, so I’ll let it rest until WoW. : /
Cave o’ LoveQuote Reply
Hmmm… yes, in that world, Val would be quite young. She’ll probably be played by an actress who graduated from a British drama school in the last 5 years, like much of the cast!
LMMacNQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
I never really thought much about Tyrion, actually. I was sort of surprised when I learned he was “the favourite” – I always had a profound love for Jaime’s character. I’m somewhat fond of Tyrion (and I LOVED him in COK) but afterwards…
He’s just a dick. I can’t defend him from that. I’m just hoping he’s going to bitch slap Dany’s pretty little face. *Evil Smile*
The InstrumentalistQuote Reply
She is really perfect cast for Ygri, just how i imagined her ( a little bit more dusty though )
And she is so spontaneuous, as seen on interview video, i like it.
Meanwhile, a little glimps of Quarth fashion and Emily chattin’ with colorful parotts
http://dulist.hr/clanak.php?id=15417#!prettyPhotogall/1/
Dario PavlovicQuote Reply
Dario Pavlovic,
Nice, we see Dany! Though it seems they didn’t give her the wig-improvement they gave Cersei… (just based on this one picture which I shouldn’t be doing because this is obvious a rehearsal)
KnurkQuote Reply
Elena Amici,
That makes sense! I am generally slow to these hypothetical genetical things for SoIF and am easily mindblown when a new possible parentage comes up. Id say that its a toss for that theory though (DwD spoiler) Connington’s presence makes it more legit sounding, and Aegon does have the violet eyes, although… Illyrio did have a favourite Lyseni maid, did he not?
NicoleQuote Reply
Welcome to the “Game Of Thrones” family Rose (love her name)! Nina Gold scores yet again on our behalf! Rose has a great look (she is darn pretty!!!) and am sure the acting chops also! Besides “Game Of Thrones” is THE place for learning…just ask our former “newbie” cast members!?
Jon Snow and her…hmmm warm thoughts in the deep of winter…
loco73Quote Reply
Poor kid , she won’t be in it for long!
MazQuote Reply
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