Well, well… what do we have here? Thanks to a tip from reader Nick, we have a sneak peek at the Game of Thrones season one DVD/Blu-Ray box set artwork. The box art from France had given us an idea of what the US box art might look like, but this more detailed look at the set is even better. We had previously reported that the DVD/Blu-Rays look to be releasing on March 20th in the US, March 19th in the UK and March 7th in France (and now Sweden). You can pre-order season one via Amazon or the HBO Shop
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Winter Is Coming: I may be biased… but that’s an attractive box set. Can’t wait for the official announcement from HBO to see all the features this baby will be loaded with. If the work they put into the box set packaging is any indication of the disc’s contents, this thing should be packed.


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Nice! Looks very good
I will get that set….
GQuote Reply
Wow, this looks good :)
I’m so going to buy it!
PS: Somebody needs to start a “buy the freking DVD if you want more seasons” campain :)
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Well, no one put first so im saying third!!!!
Nice set as well
third!!!Quote Reply
Looks very much in-line with the entire GoT merchandise and websites so far, so no surprizes there. Still looking great of course! Anybody with a time machine want to fetch me some copies for Xmas?
(btw, I’m glad I don’t have blu-ray so I don’t have to buy a nice boxed set that is ruined by that ugly blue stripe – or might it be a removable one?)
Tar KidhoQuote Reply
Tar Kidho,
Well, there appear to be more special features on the BluRay, so I wouldn’t be too happy about that ;)
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
If they have the design and everything ready to go…. why the hell dont they release it already??
I so wanted to watch this in deepest winter with a few cups of hot spiced wine …
G_LeeQuote Reply
Iiiiiii, also don’t want the ugly blue stripe, nor do I want to have to buy another soon-to-be-obsolete piece of technology (Blu-Ray player), but arrrrrrg, do I want those extra special features.
Life is such a mean person.
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
No big surprises here, but the box-set looks really nice nonetheless. I love that they have used the “Battle of heraldic animals” pictured on the spinning wheel from the opening on the inside of the box.
Definitely going to pre-order the blu-ray box-set. If they’ve set the 7th of March as release date in Sweden, I’ll keep my fingers crossed that they miiiight do the same here in Norway. That will be a two-days-late birthday present for myself! Almost perfect timing!
Lise BollumQuote Reply
OhDanyBoy,
Steve Hugh Westenra,
I’m sure we’ll see most of those extra extra features appear on the internet at some point…
Tar KidhoQuote Reply
The blue stripe might be removeable, as it was with the Star Wars and LOTR Blue Rays. In most cases with box sets it is only imprinted on the wrapper but not the slipcase.
I only have a HD-ready TV but will buy the Blue Ray nontheless for the future.
Edit: Just clicked on the picture, it is big enough so that you can read what the extras are, I like that instead of Easter Eggs, they have Dragon Eggs;)
Chris77Quote Reply
Look at those features on that list I can’t see any mention of deleted scenes or… dammit… the original pilot. :(
I’d LOVE to see that.
And to wade in to the conversation, I think a blue stripe across the box is a small price to pay for the added picture quality you get on blu ray discs. Normal DVD’s seem so low resolution now. :S
RamahQuote Reply
Lol, I’m glad I get the blue stripe because that means I’ll have far superior video and audio than the DVD version. And Steve, just buy the player: bluray will stay around for a while, longer than the DVD.
KnurkQuote Reply
Must
Buy!
FelagundQuote Reply
Ramah,
I see audio commentaries though, so its not all bad…
Looks like D+D, GRRM, Emilia Clarke, Peter Dinklage, Kit Harrington and more…
AegonerQuote Reply
That looks good. I’m hoping a map of Westeros is included.
dizzy_34Quote Reply
Knurk,
What about televisions? Do you need an HD TV to use a Blu-ray player? I’d forgot about that part as well. ):
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
I can’t get this for Christmas which is also my birthday. It looks great but man are the execs at HBO DUMB AS ROCKS. No holiday release? Really? So lame, so very very lame.
axia777Quote Reply
Steve Hugh Westenra,
Steve, you don’t need an HDTV to use a Blu Ray player. You won’t be able to watch it in HD, but BluRay players usually have a normal SD composite output, just like a DVD player.
Dan MQuote Reply
Dan M,
You’re right, but if you have no hdtv, then don’t buy the blurayplayer. That would be a waste of money because it’ll work like a dvd-player then.
KnurkQuote Reply
Knurk,
And if you are going to get an HDTV for a BluRay, make sure it is 1080p. TV’s with 1080i or 720p can only display DVD-quality images anyway.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
Here’s what I’m hoping for in special features:
1) Gag reel – my favorite part of a DVD set
2) Interviews with cast and crew
3) Feature on the music of Game of Thrones
4) Episode commentary with cast members
5) Auditions
6) Maybe a compilation of the videos we’ve seen, such as creating the CGI, the opening title sequence, etc.
DreamlifeQuote Reply
I agree, especially about 1,4 and 5! :) I’d love for these to be in the dvds, but I’m not optimistic about it… :/
bilikiQuote Reply
well it appears that blu-ray will have most of the extra features, and DVDs will only get the 10 episodes and nothing more :(
Those with past experience with HBO series DVDs and BLU-RAYs, did BLU-RAYs had vastly more content? What about DVDs? Thanks
ExpendableQuote Reply
Rofl, don’t listen to this person. That’s not even remotely true.
And HBO doesn’t put the blue stripe on their BD packaging. It’s just a removable cardboard sleeve.
It’s a growing trend for BD’s to include more special features than DVD’s. It’s a way of studios trying to get more people to adopt the Blu-Ray technology. Doesn’t bother me one bit since I always choose BD over DVD anyway, but I can see how it would be annoying to people who don’t have a BD player.
ChampQuote Reply
Dan M,
Knurk,
Thanks!
I have a small HD TV that I bring with me when I move about, but at the moment I’m living back home and my parents have a SD television, and since we would all be watching it together we would certainly use that. My father is a fan of the books/show as well, and so it would be a kind of a mutual DVD/Blu-ray set. I should check and see if my XBox plays them I suppose, but I don’t think it does. It’s one of the less fancy Xboxes.
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
I like how they have the family trees of each house.
John WQuote Reply
Champ,
It is annoying! And so far it hasn’t worked on me, since I haven’t bought one. ;p In fact, mostly it just makes me irritated and inclined not to by a Blu-ray player and, like Tar Kidho said, watch any features online that aren’t on my DVD.
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
I totally understand, but I personally think it’s fair. If you’re paying more, then you should get more for your money. Granted I’d still buy Blu-Rays regardless because of the improved video and sound, but the extra bonus features are just the cherry on top :)
ChampQuote Reply
I’m not going to look at this! Don’t…look…don’t……..look…….
Opening up a box set and seeing the art for the first time is more than half the fun!
But man… I want to look.
LexQuote Reply
They better include cast commentary groups, would love to hear the banter between Kit, Alfie and Richard. Would be hilarious to hear them comment on Alfie’s scene with Ros.
AliQuote Reply
And of course they better include Jason’s epic audition.
AliQuote Reply
Those of you who don’t have a bluray player this is a perfect time to get one. Just at best buy the other day and a Sony Bluray player is going for 80.oo bucks. So you can get a good deal right now on Bluray players and I am sure in the new year as well. Of course you need an HDTV for it.
As a gadget girl,let me just tell you I love Bluray! Its a very…dare I say orgasmic thing! Ok no…but pretty damn close. GoT is going to look AMAZING on Blu! Like seeing the pimples on Jason Momoa’s ass amazing! Everything on Blu is heightned and beautiful. The picture,the sound.
As for the GoT set…it reminds me alot like the original Xfiles dvd sets that came out. But I honestly don’t care as long as the bonus stuff is good!
HildaQuote Reply
Yay, 7th March for Sweden! Perfect as a birthday gift to me :)
If that’s the finished insert for the Bluray I sure hope that the (promised) auditions are included as hidden dragon eggs or something.
Johan SporreQuote Reply
Pretty much how I expected it to look, not that that’s a bad thing! That leaflet looks pretty cool, with the houses and such on it, maybe It’s a poster on the other side?
John-Michael LelievreQuote Reply
DVD’s hold between 352 pixel and 720 pixel Progressive Scan definition images. Blurays hold up to 1080p images. To get the most out of a Bluray, you need a display device that can display full 1080p. A Bluray on a 720p TV will be better than a lot of DVD’s (which don’t always use the full 720p designation), but its worth the cost to get the 1080p TV. Truly amazing images.
1080i can be as good as 1080p if the frame rate is low enough, but a) 1080i TV’s are getting pretty rare and b) with high quality stuff like GoT, the frame rate can get high enough for the deinterlacing process to reduce picture quality.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
For those who haven’t been able to take a closer look, the pamphlet says:
Experience Exclusive Blu-ray Features:
Blu-ray Complete Guide to Westeros
Anatomy of an Episode
In-Episode Guide
Hidden Dragon Eggs
Also Includes:
Making Game of Thrones
Creating the Show Open
From the Book to the Screen
Character Profiles
The Night’s Watch
Creating the Dothraki Language
Audio Commentaries
The fine print underneath audio commentaries looks like it says: “Screen audio commentaries with Cast and Crew including David Benioff, D.B. Weiss, George R.R. Martin, Emilia Clarke, Peter Dinklage, Kit Harrington, and more.” Too hard/too much time to decipher the other fine print underneath the other categories.
I’m guessing if there are gag reels and auditions they’ll probably be hidden as “dragon” eggs on the set.
JCQuote Reply
A lot of these features are probably stuff HBO released prior to the first season, character profiles and such.
After some eye straining
Looks like we’re getting commentary on seven episodes.
My Guess: D&D do Ep. 1 and 9, GRRM on ep. 8, Kit does ep. 3 or 4, Dinklage does ep. 6, emilia does ep. 10
can’t effin wait
Brad VillaneQuote Reply
JC,
Westros.org posted the complite fearures already. ;-)
“Also Included” are the features of the DVD plus “Complete Guide to Westeros”.
AbyssQuote Reply
Champ,
But see, the sound and video quality are what I would consider reasonable things that you are paying extra for and that one might easily not want or want, and which are to do with the format itself and not something that the people making the DVDs/Blu-rays decide to put on there. Not including bonus content on the DVDs is a deliberate decision and one that they could make differently. Given how intense I think most TV/movie fans are about picture quality (I realize I’m a bit of an oddity in that I don’t care that much), I don’t imagine it would stop them making money off the Blu-rays if they had the same features for both formats.
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
Steve Hugh Westenra,
Sometimes with DVD’s, the disc’s ability to hold information can be an issue as well – BluRays hold about 5 or 6 times as much information. As such, to hold the same number of features, etc, you need more DVD discs, even with the lower quality image/sound. So it could be that to include all the same bonus features they would have needed to add another disc, and considered that too much cost.
However, that was probably a secondary consideration – bonus features are almost always used as bait to try to get more BluRay purchases. Even if they only swing 10% of people using those methods, that may well be worth it to them.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
I’m from Brazil. do you know if the release date here is the same as the US one?
Thiago SlashQuote Reply
No deleted scenes? =(
VirtusQuote Reply
Steve,
there’s nothing better than watching a blu-ray disc on a good (means, LED-technology!), big HDTV! The quality and details in the picture will just blow your mind, believe. It’s an investment in great entertainment!
G_LeeQuote Reply
IDK. I live in Italy but I think I’m going to buy the DVD/BR in the US anyway.
BR info: Can I play BR on a DVD player? What about using a computer?
(I’ve no idea if my Dad’s TV has a DVD player or a blue ray one, i need to ask.. but I really DO want to see those dragon’s eggs)
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
They already said that they used all the scenes I don’t know why people are surprised at this .
JohnQuote Reply
You cannot play BR’s in a DVD player. Computers can have BluRay drives, in which case you can, but most computers do not have those.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
because we didn’t see that flashback of Brandon’s death that was in the trailer?
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Because that isn’t correct. We know of at least one scene that was filmed but not included (Murder of Rickon and Brandon).
This sounds interesting
Maybe this is where we get the Tower of Joy Info straight from Ned himself.
Been saying for ages that I’m going to get a BR player and HD TV I think i’ll be getting one before March.
MormegilQuote Reply
Anyone know if the audio is mixed in either Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master, Ive got a dedicated home theater room, cant wait to see this :)
BlackwaltzQuote Reply
Tar Kidho,
Not true. The Blu-Ray exclusive special features, as detailed on Amazon.de and the Westeros site, will certainly not be included on HBOGO or the “internet”; there’s even special features such as “dragon eggs” and so forth that won’t be included on the DVD release. If you are a real fan of the series anyway you’d want the Blu-Rays, as it includes the best available quality for the show. Blu-Ray players are even $40 right now on TG and BF, so I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t want to upgrade, it’s only logical.
The Lightning LordQuote Reply
And expanding a little on my last point, HDTVs are also around $200-400 this time around if you’re looking for large ones (40”+), and you can get smaller ones for even less, so I don’t see why people won’t want to buy them if they don’t have them already: they are currently the cheapest they’ve been at. The amount of trade off you get from HDTV and Blu-Ray is phenomenal, and given it’s 2011, you are missing out on hell of a lot if you’re still sticking to the ancient SD/DVD formats. Even the 720p/1080i HDTV broadcasts on HBO will be of better quality than the DVD releases, so I don’t see why any fan of the show would ever really prefer DVDs…
The Lightning LordQuote Reply
This is the first time I’ve regretted swapped my PS3 for an Xbox 360 :<
Ah well, my PC's in need of a new optical drive, so I might as well spend the extra and get a bluray drive for it.
GaRQuote Reply
Ooo looking good. Can’t wait to pick up the bluray edition. Will have to watch it on my PS3, but ain’t complaining! :D
Samantha HirstQuote Reply
LoL!! An automobile??!! Hah!! I’ll show you – I’m gonna just keep riding my horse!!!
Enjoy your old technology DVD, I’m gonna sit with my 50″ HD Tv, Surround sound and high-def BluRay disks with special features…
EdQuote Reply
Ed,
Wow, it sure is amazing how people fail to realise what a step forward BluRay is over DVD. A significantly bigger step than the jump from VHS to DVD was.
Standard def TVs have been hilariously low resolution for a long time now; it’s well past time they were retired.
Last weekend I shot my old 29″ CRT with a shotgun. I couldn’t sell it, or even give it away, despite it being in perfect working order.
GaRQuote Reply
Hello guys,
Well, this version will subtittles in portuguese of Brasil?
Tanks!
Marlon AndradeQuote Reply
I truly hope lots and lots of people buy this thinking “Hey, I’ve been hearing this is good, and it has Sean Bean on the cover…”
MorlunQuote Reply
I’m still completely uninterested in Blu-Ray.
I don’t want to spend a bunch of money on a Blu-Ray player, I CERTAINLY won’t re-buy the movies in my collection (especially not older ones which aren’t filmed in high def anyway), and I’m not even sure whether my TV is high def.
I’ve seen a few Blu-Rays… and honestly, I wasn’t that impressed. Sure, they looked good. But a bigger difference than VHS-to-DVD? No way.
LexQuote Reply
Lex,
Originally, the quality difference between VHS and DVD was a jump from about 250 horizontal lines to 352, both progressive scan (p designation). DVD’s have improved over time to about 720p. BluRays are 1080p, so the difference between the picture quality and a DVD picture is a little bigger than the original VHS to DVD change, but certainly nowhere near the difference between modern day DVDs and VHS tapes.
I resisted getting BluRay for a long time, up until last spring, but it is honestly so cheap now (you can get a very good quality BluRay for under $100 pretty much anywhere) with such a significant upgrade in picture quality (and of course bonus features in many cases) that it was a decision I don’t regret.
Out of curiosity, did you see the BluRays on a 1080p TV? Many people make the mistake of thinking 720p is full HD – on those TV’s, you really can’t tell the difference. Also, if your TV is any smaller than 40″, you probably can’t tell the difference anyway – the high definition technology is only truly important with larger screens.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
Abyss,
Aah haha well that was five minutes well wasted :p.
G_Lee,
Replace LED with plasma and I agree with your statement ;).
This show was made to be seen on blu-ray though. And personally, I would never buy a 720p TV or a 1080i at this point unless it’s a relatively small TV. 1080p is the way to go for HDTVs, and plasma if you want the best color, deepest blacks, and no motion judder (that is unless you own the new, ridiculously expensive Sharp Elite LED in which case you pretty much have the best TV money can buy).
I’ve watched 720p versions of Breaking Bad before and when I bought the blu-rays, the difference in quality to the 1080p versions was huge. 720p looks pretty good but it can’t compare with the full quality really.
I hope the sound mix is DTS-HD MA personally. Back on DVD, DTS mixes always won out for atmosphere and surround dynamics vs Dolby. I realize the difference is pretty moot nowadays but I prefer DTS just because of their past track record. And 7.1 would be amazing but it’s more likely it was mixed for 5.1.
JCQuote Reply
G_Lee,
Which I might consider if money wasn’t an issue for me, and if I had a TV that was starting not to work properly. I’d feel wasteful buying something new when my old machine is working fine, and especially when I need to be saving money and paying back loans. I’m not trying to imply anyone else shouldn’t enjoy that sort of thing, but it’s not within my range at this point in time.
I’ve watched Blu rays on HD TVs at peoples’ houses as well, and for me, it just isn’t that big a deal. I can recognize a slight change when the images are side-by-side, but otherwise I don’t notice. If a movie/TV show is good enough I’m drawn in by the plot/character so much that I’m not paying attention to how sharp the picture is (although I can see this mattering a bit more with more visual and stylized movies).
Like I said, I do actually have a small HD TV as well, but I’ve never played anything HD on it anyway. I only recently tried to plug in the HD cables that came with my XBox into it, and I can’t tell if I did it correctly or not, ahaha. But I noticed when I was using it just now that it does say 480i on it, so maybe that’s why. I’m pretty incompetent with technology though, so….
Besides, DVDs do have good picture quality. I find it very strange when people act like they can’t imagine going “back to DVD” as though it’s the stone age. ;p I probably will buy a Blu-Ray player at some point (maybe this year, or perhaps when they’re $20 a piece), but it’s not like my world feels empty without one. If you’re intense about technology though, I can see how that would be exciting (the same way a new book is exciting to me, or a new CD, etc!). It’s just not my particular obsession (though clearly, to some degree, ASoIaF is, hence the pain of not getting special features).
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
OhDanyBoy,
I saw the Blu-Rays of Planet Earth, on a high def TV. It was good… but honestly, my Planet Earth DVDs seem just as good to me. Or at least 90% as good, which I’m fine with.
Also, I looked at Blu-Ray players the other day and they seemed the be over $200. Maybe I’d buy one if it was $100 or less, but I don’t know…
I originally bought a DVD player in 2001 just for The Lord of the Rings, but I’m not really interested in re-buying that trilogy yet again, even though they’re my favourite movies of all time. If LOTR isn’t enough to make me buy a Blu-Ray player, Game of Thrones certainly won’t be.
I just don’t feel like the difference in quality is nearly big enough. And to be honest, I just kind of resent Blu-Rays, for making my relatively new DVD collection obsolete already.
LexQuote Reply
Lex,
THIS.
Also, I too only got a DVD player around 2001 or maybe 2004 (and then only because someone won it as a prize at work and gave it to me). I passed it on to my parents when I moved and bought myself a DVD/VCR combo.
I just know I’ll get really annoyed if I buy [insert cool new gadget here] and then a year or two years later they’re selling them for $20. ):
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
Steve Hugh Westenra,
Exactly, the image needs to be side by side or it’s practically unnoticeable to me.
Plus, DVD is already so good. How much better do you need? When I watch The Lord of the Rings on DVD, the LAST thing I’m thinking is “Man, the quality of this just isn’t good enough!”.
LexQuote Reply
Lex,
Your DVDs will still work in a BluRay player, and a good one will even upscale them to make them look better on a high def TV.
Incidentally, despite the assertions in this thread, very few DVDs are in 720P. Just because the format is capable of it doesn’t mean every disk has it. Most DVD players couldn’t output a 720P signal anyway.
GaRQuote Reply
GaR,
Maybe what I’ll do then is buy a Blu-Ray/VCR combo when my DVD/VCR breaks. Less wires= happy Steve. AND, that won’t be for ages, so I can get one cheap when it happens. XD
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
I was totally nodding in understanding until this last portion. BluRays have no effect on your current DVDs. Heck you can even watch your DVDs in your BluRay player. No need to REpurchase your favorite movies on BluRay. I’m not. Just getting future movie purchases on BluRay.
EdQuote Reply
Lex,
And you just have to wonder when the next technology with even better capacity will come around – and this time it won’t be backwards compatible.
Johan SporreQuote Reply
GaR,
It’s true – low end DVD players tend to output at around 480p. So the difference between BluRay and DVD becomes pretty big. I made most of my arguments based on 720p DVD players as a conservative measure – at DVD’s very best, it does not go near BluRay in terms of quality.
And I was hesitant to upgrade as well – BluRay came out in 2006, and it took me until 2011. For cheap BluRays, just check out Futureshop or somewhere similar – right now they have a couple cheap brand BluRays on for $70, and a variety of better ones (Samsung, LG, Toshiba) on for $100.
OhDanyBoyQuote Reply
If you prefer to not do business with a company like Amazon.com, with its questionable business and labor ethics, BarnesandNoble.com also has pre-order available for both the DVD and Blu-Ray of A Game of Thrones. And it’s cheaper at BN than Amazon by several dollars.
LangkardQuote Reply
OhDanyBoy,
Most people I know who aren’t convinced by BluRay compared it back-to-back on a high def TV in a BluRay player, which flatters the DVD by upscaling and being on a good TV. These people then went home to their CRT TVs and watched DVDs being funnelled through an RCA cable and told themselves that there wasn’t that much difference.
Stick a DVD on a CRT TV and compare that with a BluRay on a high def TV and even a blind man would blown away by the difference in picture quality.
::edit::
I’ve been a PC gamer since the mid ’90s, so can well appreciate the difference a big jump in resolution makes. It seems that most people’s brains don’t pay attention to their eye signals carefully enough or something.
GaRQuote Reply
I know that Blu-Ray players can still play DVDs (thank the gods)… but what I mean by “obsolete” is that no one thinks DVDs are good enough anymore, and people are re-buying all their movies again, even though they already spent a bunch of money on DVDs over the last decade. It’s annoying.
LexQuote Reply
The Lightning Lord,
I think he meant that someone will probably upload the special features to a torrent site or wherever.
Pretty weak that the Dragon Eggs and the new histories told by the characters are only on the BR, especially since everything on the DVD, aside from the commentaries and some new Making GoT footage, has been previously released. I was gonna get the BR anyway, but damn, that’s some Lannister-type shit right there.
the goatQuote Reply
Does anybody know what HBOHD is broadcast in, 720 or 1080? Does it depend on your cable provider/dish service?
the goatQuote Reply
I know people who do this too, and it seems just as silly to me.
I’ve been a console gamer since about the same time, and of course you can see the difference between a game made now and one made ten years ago (or less, depending), but it’s a very different animal, wherein a leap in graphics on a PC or console game can actually allow you to see things you need to notice in the surroundings of the game that you might not be able to in a game made in the mid to late nineties. Although some movies are certainly made with new technology in mind, and making use of it during filming, I would argue that game developers depend on it much more, since you are actually in the game in a way you can’t be with cinema (not even 3D cinema). A game environment is entirely constructed, whereas movies and TV (unless they’re animated) are capturing something that’s really there (with the exception of CGI). Of course, some technologies will capture/represent that better, but that doesn’t mean that older technologies do a bad job.
Besides, I still love most of the games I played in the mid-nineties just as much (more in many cases) than my newer games that have better graphics. Just because I can recognize that newer games are capable of achieving more realistic detail doesn’t make my enjoyment of my older games any less. I liked Lex’s point that when he’s watching LoTR he isn’t sitting there thinking about the definition of the image or how much better/worse the picture quality is than any other format, he’s enjoying the story and getting excited or sad or happy or happy about whatever emotions Lex feels while watching LoTR that I don’t know (horny?).
P.S. Sorry, Lex! Haha.
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
Mostly it’s a combination of joy, awe, terror, squeeing, fist-pumping, and occasional sobbing like a schoolgirl.
LexQuote Reply
Lex,
That’s pretty much me too then. XD
I always get especially excited fan-tingly at the part when Eowyn kills the Witch King.
EDIT: And, hilariously enough, my copies of the LoTR movies are all VHS tapes.
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
I dunno, I have a really nice 1080p 120 Hz Tv, and with my upconverting DVD player on an HDMI cable, things look pretty great. I’m sure Blu-ray has better “specs” but after a certain point your eyes just physically can’t tell the difference. Now I’m not saying that’s the case here, but much beyond BR it will be. Not to mention for those things the increased capacity is more often used for special features.
And for things shot on film… there’s almost no point. You’re copy of nosferatu isn’t going to magically become clearer.
TreSQuote Reply
Lex
I am 100% pro blu-ray over DVD. I wasn’t when it was first announced. At that time, I was reluctant about upgrades considering I had a pretty decent DVD collection. But boy was I wrong.
The breaking point was a few years back, when I moved in with some buddies and one of them bought a 62″ Samsung LED TV. We also had a very small space so we were sitting really close to the TV the entire year.
In any case, that year, I really got to see the differences between blu-ray and DVD. And they’re not minor differences, but they may be less noticeable on small TVs. Watching a movie like Baraka or Wall-E on blu-ray on a huge TV like that, you WILL notice the difference vs a DVD on the same TV and it’s quite major.
Regarding Planet Earth – I own Planet Earth on blu-ray as well and while it does look great for much of it, it’s not consistently so. A better demo disc would be the film Baraka, which was shot on 70mm film in 1992 (four times the resolution of standard film – this is about the same resolution that select scenes of Dark Knight were shot on), and the only film EVER to be scanned in at 8k resolution (8x the resolution of 1080p) for the blu-ray transfer. The level of detail in the transfer is ASTRONOMICAL. Roger Ebert called it the best looking blu-ray he’d ever seen.
So my advice is this: if you ever plan on getting a big TV, get a blu-ray player and start buying blu-rays instead of DVDs. Quality can possibly get better than blu-ray but it doesn’t really need to at the size of the TVs people have in their home theatres. I don’t think there’s much room to grow upwards at this point. If you don’t plan on upgrading your TV, then stay with DVD. It’s still serviceable and does the job. But it’s just one of those things, once you get comfortable with watching blu-rays on a big screen, it’s hard to go back. (And there’s also the fact that blu-rays have far better sound though some people can’t tell the difference.)
I couldn’t go down in size after experiencing my roommate’s TV so I ended up buying a 65″ Panasonic VT25 plasma last year. Watching blu-rays on it is at a whole new level of awesome :D.
JCQuote Reply
This is unbelievably wrong and totally misunderstands how film works.
Anyway, some of the most gorgeous-looking Blu-Rays are movies that are 40-80 years old.
ChampQuote Reply
I just saw this comment. I know Champ just commented on this but I have to elaborate – actually, yes it just might become clearer.
Most films (including Nosferatu and the majority of old films) are shot on 35mm which is higher resolution than 1080p/blu-ray quality. It just always got downgraded in the transfer/no one bothered to transfer the original negatives at that scale previously. And some films back in the day were actually shot at higher resolutions than most films nowadays. Almost no feature films are shot fully in 70mm anymore (excepting the aforementioned Baraka and its spiritual successor, Samsara); even when films use 70mm now, they only use them in short doses (like New World and Dark Knight).
In comparison, many Hollywood epics of the golden age were shot on 70mm (equivalent to 8k or eight times blu-ray quality) which, as I mentioned previously, is four times the resolution of standard 35mm film (kind of equivalent to 2k or double blu-ray quality). These films, like Ben Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, Sound of Music, etc stand to benefit immensely from blu-ray technology.
The only thing preventing perfectly crisp imagery is the age of the negatives/masters themselves and how well they’ve been maintained. But theoretically, if they were maintained perfectly for all the intervening years, you would get an image quality on blu-ray that could rival any film from today.
I don’t own many golden age films on blu-ray but I have North by Northwest, Pierrot le Fou, and The 400 Blows and they all look fantastic.
Here’s a sample of Pierrot le Fou – this screenshot has actually been shrunk down to 720p from 1080p and compressed but this is a film from 1965 and look how great it looks:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/screenshot.php?movieid=5951&position=10
JCQuote Reply
And ignore what I said resolution-wise in the previous post regarding 70mm/35mm. Made some mistakes that I could no longer edit. But it still stands that 70mm resolution > 35mm > blu-ray. The figures are probably closer to 35mm is 1.5x the resolution of blu-ray, and 70mm is about 3-4x the resolution of blu-ray. Either way, most films (unless they’re shot on 16mm which is rare) are more than capable of higher than blu-ray quality.
JCQuote Reply
What a stupid comment. I’m not a true fan because I won’t buy the blu-rays?
I watch tv on a 24″ Samsung 2470HD computer screen (1080p), which is great for the size of my living room (I always laugh with people that sit <3m in front of a 40+" screen, that's just ridiculous). I don't have any intention in investing in a new home theatre system, including surround sound (I use a 2.1 computer speaker system that serves me very well). I don't even buy DVD's normally since I prefer going to the cinema for the real experience and at home just watch what is broadcast on tv. I only buy DVD's in special circumstances, like for the LoTR movies or of course to support GoT. I have plenty of other hobbies to spend my time and money on, and am happy not to feel the social pressure to spend all my earnings on materialistic bullshit. Really, I'm not missing Blu-Ray at all, and if HBO decides to leave out some special features on the DVD's (why not put them as well on a limited DVD version?) I won't feel guilty at all to 'find' them on the internet.
Tar KidhoQuote Reply
On the 1080p debate:
Many are fooling themselves when they go to lengths to get 1080p material since you have to sit pretty close to your TV to physically be able to tell any relevant difference.
If you look at even a fairly large screen of 50″ you stop being able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p at about 10 feet /3 meters.
Most people have smaller screens than that and are probably still sitting at that range or even further away, meaning that they probably are mainly experiencing a placebo effect when they think 1080p looks better.
Tywin’s BastardQuote Reply
What happened to the Quarth post? Entertainment Weekly tell the website admin to take it down?
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Thanks for the credit WiC!
Just like to add my two cents to the whole BD debate as the level of uninformed opinions being bandied around in this topic is shocking.
1. Movies that are shot on film stand to recieve the biggest upgrade in image quality when scanned to HD and put on Blu-ray. 35mm film has a native “resolution” of about 4000×2000, which is double the BD standard of 1080p. So in effect, 1080p resolution is only showing half of the detail that 35mm film is capable of displaying, and a quarter of 70mm. I’ve put together a picture comparison of The Sound of Music’s DVD and BD releases. This was filmed in 70mm and is nearly 50 years old.
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9325/soundp.png
2. There is nothing inherntly bad about 720p. For starters, no DVD has ever been in 720p resolution. 720p refers to 1280×720, whilst DVDs are around 750×420. 720p will show a huge improvement over any DVD. A 1080p TV is only going to show a difference (and there is a big one) over 720p if you’re sat very close, or it’s a very big TV. On a 50 inch screen, you’ll ideally need to be sat no more than 6ft away to get the most out of the image. I’m a bit of a tech nerd and this is exactly what I do, but I can understand that most viewers are going to have smaller teles and be sat further away, in which case a 1080p tv will be a waste of money.
3. Blu-ray is most definitely worth the upgrade if you’ve got the money to spend on a decent system. The difference in quality can be astonishing sometimes as I hope the image comparison above demonstrates.
NickQuote Reply
BEST GM SCREEN EVER (top)
DekarQuote Reply
Just to chime in on the whole DVD vs Blu Ray debate, I do understand the reluctance to convert to Blu Ray after years of collecting DVDs, but there really is a huge difference. It’s not a minor little upgrade. I was a firm member of the “what’s the big deal?” camp until a friend showed me this YouTube video, at which point I converted and never looked back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ-RhnonZyg
GreatjonQuote Reply
I watched all of season one on a 32″ SD CRT TV via HBO’s standard-def channel. Barring a financial windfall prior to March 20th, I will likely be buying the DVDs and watching them on the same TV. I dare anyone to say I’m not a true fan.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
LOL – It’s not winteriscoming without a gate – Blu Ray/DVD-gate!
uno0Quote Reply
Yes. I reposted it, with the picture removed, so people can continue commenting if they wish.
Winter Is ComingQuote Reply
uno0,
Haha, true enough. I guess that makes Tar Kidho and I the perpetrators of this gate?
I’m not sure what side of the gate I’m on in that case! I’m not savvy enough to argue the technical aspect in any detail, and I wouldn’t argue that Blu-rays don’t demonstrate better quality images (though I would contest how much actual difference it makes when it comes down to an enjoyable experience), but I also don’t think they’re a big enough deal for me to shell out that much money for a new piece of machinery/TV/otherthingsImayneed, and I do think it’s a bit mean-spirited to make content Blu-Ray only, even if it would mean an extra DVD in the set (the actual physical DVDs they record the material cost nothing at all).
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
I prefer to watch it on a kinetoscope.
LangkardQuote Reply
JC,
I appreciate the info… But in a way, you’ve inadvertently proved my point. You say Planet Earth is okay on Blu-Ray, but if I really want to see how good Blu-Ray can be, I need to watch Baraka. How often am I going to watch Baraka, though? I’m not going to make the switch to Blu-Ray for one film. If Planet Earth on Blu-Ray isn’t all that special (or LOTR, which I’ve heard isn’t that great on Blu-Ray either), then I’m still uninterested.
LexQuote Reply
Incidentally, my TV is 42″ and I sit about 8 feet away.
LexQuote Reply
What I was referencing with film, was that being that its shot on film, the image is caught in little particles suspended in emulsion. These particles, which vary in size, give film that distinctive “soft” look that digital has not been able to replicate (though many will say it has, especially in reference to the RED cameras).
Regardless, my point was, and perhaps I did not articulate it well, was that the sharpness will never be as you see on a football game or something filmed digitally. It will retain that “soft” look that is unique to film, especially for your “darker” films such as Nosferatu, which were shot on a slower speed film (aka larger particles) to capture more light in darker settings.
Tre SvatekQuote Reply
It was just one example (though imo Baraka is terrific and just as re-watchable as Planet Earth, if not moreso). There are hundreds upon hundreds of Blu-Rays that look/sound incredible and blow their DVD counterparts out of the water. Just a few random examples (scroll down to see the screenshot comparisons):
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews37/thin_red_line.htm
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews20/toy_story2_dvd_review.htm
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews48/hausu.htm
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare5/bluevelvet.htm
ChampQuote Reply
For those of you who feel blu ray players are expensive, now would be a great time to buy one, especially today. For black friday ive seen ads for a blu ray player for 40 bucks and most upconvert dvds so you wouldnt need to buy a blu ray version of all your dvds. Ive even watched game of thrones on my tv upconverting to 3D, that was quite a ride lol
BlackwaltzQuote Reply
And never should be. No one is expecting it to look “digital” with an upgrade to HD. But just because it still looks like film doesn’t mean there can’t be a huge increase in detail and clarity.
NickQuote Reply
What good is it if we can’t have it for Christmas? HBO sucks so very badly.
kgQuote Reply
Looks fantastic, so looking forward to seeing the deleted scenes on there, especially Brandon Stark’s murder in the throne room, ever since I saw it in the flashback in the trailer I’ve been dying to see it
NedQuote Reply
kg,
I have to agree. Not releasing it in time for the holidays seems a staggeringly bad move. Still, it’s not going to keep me from buying it anyway. *_*
HirondelleQuote Reply
Right, Blu-Ray it is. The TV shouldn’t be a problem, the sound however…will have to replace pictures on wall with speakers. But I will gladly sacrifice my home-decor scheme on the altar of maximum GoT viewing pleasure.
HirondelleQuote Reply
I just ‘squeed’ so much at this new my mum came upstairs to see what the heck was wrong!
I’d happily skip Christmas/New Year so that March gets here sooner.
emmaQuote Reply
Champ,
I think it’s amazing that people are working on creating the kind of experience that you describe, and that you can enjoy it, etc, but for me it’s still not enough to warrant buying a Blu-ray player at the present time. I love Blue Velvet and David Lynch, but those movies will all still be there in five years when my DVD player has worn out and I replace it with a new machine. And to be honest, I probably wouldn’t bother to watch the others anyway (and I know this is just a small selection of movies that look great on Blu-ray players, but for me I just don’t care enough about the difference between the two formats to justify the purchase). I can see very much enjoying watching something like Baraka on Blu-ray, if it is as good as everyone is saying (and I trust you that it is), but if I feel an overwhelming desire to watch it I’ll probably just rent it and play it at a friend’s house.
If I buy a new piece of technology for a new game or movie or other kind of thing, I have to be exceptionally excited about it and exceptionally obsessed with it to do so (and even then I’ve made some shitty decisions because of wanting to play a game I absolutely loved, etc).
Maybe I will get a Blu-ray player this year, as I said earlier, but right now I can’t justify it. I’m pretty sure I will enjoy watching GoT just as much on DVD as I would on Blu-ray, with the exception of the missing extras (and like Tar Kidho said, they’ll probably show up online).
Steve Hugh WestenraQuote Reply
What ever anyone is saying about DVD vs Blu-Ray is a moot point. The point is that Blu-Ray is the next generation of media. It won the format war against HD-DVD. HD-DVD is the Betamax and Blu-Ray is the VHS. This is final for now until the next better thing comes along.
DVD is now going the way of VHS. In a few years I really doubt that they will make DVD’s for movies or shows anymore. This is the natural progression of technology. Out with the old in with the new. People complaining over the death of DVD sound exactly like people complaining over the death of VHS. Get used to it because the battle is over. DVD is going away and Blu-Ray is here to stay.
axia777Quote Reply
Looks good, I’ll be buying the DVDs. I don’t have a blu-ray player and can’t afford one- and in any case I doubt I’d see the difference on my tv.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if blu-rays are pushed aside by a newer generation of media soon in any case- I can easily imagine buying little read-only usb sticks or something similar to plug directly into a next-gen tv/tivo/etc.
I should think some kind person will upload any blu-ray only features onto youtube or similar at some point- at least I hope so!
ShinyteapotQuote Reply
I think the best way to compare image quality (IQ) of a DVD versus a Blu-ray disc is to load up a couple official Game of Thrones trailers on YouTube. Switch between 480p (highest resolution DVD can display without up-conversion) to 720p (lowest Blu-ray can display on a 720/1080i set) and you’ll be able to see for yourself how clean-looking and wonderful Blu-ray looks compared to a DVD even on a moderately priced set.
For me, the difference IS night and day. Game of Thrones’ gorgeous production design and photography deserves that kind of IQ (the Blu-ray kind, of course).
Héctor López de VictoriaQuote Reply
I love the style of the packaging!
As for DVD vs Blu-ray, I think I’ll stick with DVD for now. Blu-rays are definitely the future, but I don’t want to invest in a player at the moment.
I currently use x360+small TV and laptop for most of my media, as I move quite frequently and so don’t want too many bulky media devices. I think I would rather wait until the next generation Xbox (which must be Blu-ray compatible) before I switch over.
That won’t be for another year or two though, and I can’t wait that long for GoT-on-a-disc!
EvilPicnicQuote Reply
The husband is likely getting this and Skyrim in his stocking this year. ;) It’ll free up our DVR quite a bit too.
ConnieQuote Reply
If you get him Skyrim and the guide also, you’ll need a second stocking just for the guide. That thing is massive.
LangkardQuote Reply
Connie,
The GOT box set will not be out in time for the holidays.
LexQuote Reply
Tar Kidho,
While true you miss out on some additional bonuses
SuperdeluxeQuote Reply
I dig the art! And I totally want the Blu-ray set.
…and checking Amazon.com, it appears HBO has finally started pricing their DVD/BD sets where they belong. Early birthday gift for me!
ZackQuote Reply
The wonders of seeing two more nostril hairs on Sean Bean are not enough to make me buy a whole new video setup while the one I have still works.
kgQuote Reply
I know for a fact that all episodes will have audio commentary.
Off the top of my head,
Episode 1 Will feature the show runners
Episode 8 will feature George RR Martin
I can’t remember the specifics of the other episode groupings, but they will make sense, ie the Stark daughters will be together for an episode, Robb/Jon/Theon, Mark Addy/Sean Bean etc for the other ones.
Brad Villane,
SssshhhhQuote Reply
Only downside to season 1 is little to no deleted scenes, I’m still going to get it though! Blu-Ray > DVD, just get a PS3!
TJ FlynnQuote Reply
If you think about it, releasing the DVDs/BDs now instead of in March would be detrimental to getting people to subscribe to the channel. Say they release the series now, 5 months before the new season begins, and non-subscribers get hooked on the show. What would be their motivation to catch it “live” for season 2? They’d have way too much time between releases to convince themselves that they could just wait for the next set of DVDs.
But, if you only give people a month between the disc release and the new season premiere, new fans will jump on the HBO bandwagon with a lot less trepidation.
It seems backwards to not do a holiday release, and it’s torturous for us. In the end, it does make more sense.
KatieQuote Reply
Lex,
As Champ mentioned again, there are tons of films where you will see the clarity in upgrade. But if it wasn’t apparent before, it probably won’t matter too much on your end. Ultimately, it’s what you see and whether it works for you or not that matters.
I just like to push blu-ray as much as possible because I’m a hardcore film buff (as you can probably tell :P) and I like to make sure people see the best versions possible. The level of detail you can see on blu-ray can be really stunning…I mean, it doesn’t make a huge difference for say, a Kevin Smith film. But I really think it helps immerse you in the films that have excellent production design or cinematography. I have a soft spot especially for films that play as mood pieces and many of those rely on a heady mix of gorgeous cinematography and distinct sound design to bring you into their world. The blu-ray quality only helps bring all of that out.
Champ,
The fact that you just referenced Lynch, Thin Red Line and Hausu (the front cover of which is displayed on my wall right now in poster form and on another forum, is my display pic) freaks me out a bit. You’re not my doppelgänger are you? ;)
JCQuote Reply
Sssshhhh,
Do you work for HBO or something?
According to Westeros the packaging says 7 commentaries.
the goatQuote Reply
Steve Hugh Westenra,
Hey fellow Newfoundlander, do what I did: purchase a PS3 and a decent HDTV. There are only a small selection of films I owned on DVD that I bought on blu ray. DVD is fine, I still watch them on my PS3. I just buy new films on bluray is all. The only DVDs that a purchased again on bluray was the LOTR special edition (and it is glorious) and the Star Wars saga and Rome the complete series. All my Hitchcock, all my David Lean, all my Criterion, all the tv box sets I own I have them on DVD. Of course I graciously accept any gifts of my old films in high definition as well!
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
kg,
LOL! It’s not about nostril hair my friend it’s about texture and definition. It’s about the sheen of a sword, the thunderous yet rusty opening of a gate, of every ripple in a banner visibly contorting as it flaps in the wind and the sensuos creak of a leather tunic as someone moves their neck to make a premeditated gesture. Like it not, but don’t mock it.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
AAAAAAHHHHHWWWWWWWHH………. BABA……. : Q
Emanuel PérezQuote Reply
Joshua Taylor,
Saying I don’t see the need at this time is hardly mocking. That’s the problem with fans; every dissenting opinion is an attack.
kgQuote Reply
Can’t wait, between this and the short trailer last week I’m starting to once again feel the hype! Too bad the set won’t be released earlier, a GOT marathon would be have been fitting while trapped in my house during the inevitable snowstorm that is surely coming in a month or two…
About the whole BD-DVD debate, I’d just recommend whatever makes you happy. I have to say, though, I’m really pumped about the audio aspect of the BD – it’s usually the superb sound quality that I enjoy more than anything between an HD cable broadcast (or DVD) and the blu-ray equivalent, but I’m sort of an audiophile. Hopefully they do a good mix!
JWestfallQuote Reply
The DVD/Blue-ray set looks really nice. It reminds me of the DVD sets I have for season one and two of “ROME”, those were pretty sweet, with really nice artwork and a really good presentation.
I was really hopping for a sooner release for the set. I thought that they might do that around the holidays rather than wait well into 2012 to do so. I understand why they are doing it though, in order to maximize sales and a way to promote and tie-in Season Two of “Game Of Thrones” which I imagine will also have an April release just like this year. In my opinion they are making a mistake by delaying the release until next year…they are taking too long in realeasing their series…
Personally, I will stick with the DVD’s and won’t bother with the Blue-ray set. Honestly I find that sometimes there are too many special features, featurettes, in-movie commentaries…etc., so much so that it is really distracting and it takes away from the simple enjoyment of just watching the series. I am really interested in the show itself and don’t really often have the time to go through all the special features, and Blue-rays have too many, I can barely get through the ones on the DVD series sets and movies I already own, and those are plenty enough. Besides I can watch any or all special features and behind the scenes stuff on-line if I really want to, either YouTube or HBO.com and a slew of other sites.
I have a Sony 32″ flatscreen which is a HD tv (full 1080), but the cable conection I have is standard def. Unfortunately in Canada HD channels are quite expensive (as I’m sure they are in other countries) , in order to even get HBOCanada, I have to subcribe to TMN (The Movie Network) which is the licenced carrier of Showtime, Starz and HBO programming here. HBOCanada comes attached with the subsciption to this TMN, so I’m basically paying for two pay-tv networks even though all I want is HBO by itself…If I want the HD versions of these networks/channels I have to pay extra to get an HD box which also acts as a PVR etc., etc. and have to pay for the HD connection, the rental of the equipment etc.
Sufices to say, as Winter pointed out, given the economic situation such as it is and jobs going the way of the dodo bird as they are, short of winning the lottery or having some dead relative leave me a fortune, I will have to resort to what I did this year, I will just subscribe temporarity to TMN/HBOCanada only for the duration of Season Two of “Game Of Thrones” and go with the standard box (even that will put a strain on my finances). I’m will only be doing that because of “Game Of Thrones”, otherwise I wouldn’t even consider it.
Truth be told I’m not that really gun-ho about HD programming, its too expensive and one must be a real cinephile to really insist on seeing and having everything in HD. Standard works just fine for my taste.
I have spoken to several people working in the retail business,. HMV, Amazon, Best Buy and others, and many have said that over the past two years sales of Blue-Ray discs have flattened and have even given ground to DVD sales. Now, many do point out that people might be reverting to DVD’s as long as this economic downturn lasts, since DVD’s are much cheaper these days and are still pretty good products. Personally I enjoy watching movies on DVD, and really don’t miss anything about Blue-rays, nor do I want to invest money (which I don’t have) in a Blue-ray player or convert my DVD collection over to Blue-Ray…they work just fine for me. But that is my prefference.
VHS went away, to my mind, because DVD offered an entirely different format and way of watching movies or TV series. DVD was a leap forward from VHS , a definite change and evolution. Blue-ray discs, to me, are just a fancier version of the DVDs, but they are still discs and contain the same basic technology and format as a DVD, just more advanced and refined.
However, Blue-rays, don’t represent an entirely new medium, or way to watch movies, though I’m sure that that technology is around the corner. I think that the disc format will be dead in a few years and that goes for both DVD’s and Blue-rays. So what is the point investing in Blue-rays? I will stick with DVD’s and will move on to something new, when the disc format is completely extinct and the next leap forward takes place and becomes mainstream, just like when the DVD’s did away with VHS. We already have examples of the next thing…like Apple TV, TiVO, Netflix, all the streaming sites over the Internet, etc the OnDemand features etc. These are just the first few attempts/steps at changing the way we view movies, music, radio, TV series etc.
I think in the next 5-10 years things will change quite substantialy. Until then DVD’s are just fine with me…in this case Season One of “Game Of Thrones” will be a most welcomed addtition.
PS Are they still planning to realease the pilot episode as a stand alone DVD/Blue-ray around the holidays? Amazon was listing that as a release, apart from complete Season One set.
loco73Quote Reply
you do know you don’t have to watch all the extra’s right?
this isn’t even remotely true: http://www.degonline.org/pressreleases%5C2011%5Cf_Q410.pdf .
Blu-Ray is the future. I’m fine with people saying they don’t want to spend the money when they are happy with their current systems. But blu-ray is here to stay for a while, it’s not going anywhere for years to come. So the people saying they’d rather wait for the ‘next thing’ are in for a long wait. Maybe they can improve the image quality a bit more, but the human brain will barely notice the difference from here on now so it’ll never be as revolutionary as the dvd to blu-ray transition.
KnurkQuote Reply
What trailer are you talking about? I’m interested in seeing this.
kevinQuote Reply
Dat Blu-Ray O.O !!!
DawnWielderQuote Reply
Tar Kidho,
I was just saying that if you wanted to get the best available quality for the show, you’d want the Blu-Rays rather than the DVDs if you really loved the show – even if you have an SDTV, you can still connect a PS3 or Blu-Ray player, as which I’ve noted is cheaper than ever before, to your TV, and when you upgrade to an HDTV (again, startling in this time and age, as people from third world countries even have HDTVs or Blu-Ray players/PS3s, do get on with the times [*gently* speaking]) you can take full advantage of the amazing clarity of Blu-Ray. Similarly, if you want to get the best possible picture, you’d watch the HD broadcasts rather than the SD. If you love the show so much, why barter with an inferior version, yes? Wouldn’t you want every possible detail? As someone else said, Blu-Ray is the future, and it is still very much the present as well.
With the Blu-Rays you notice every minutiae of detail, so you are indeed missing out on a lot if you prefer the worse of the two editions/broadcasts, and a true fan would want to get the best possible picture and material, wouldn’t he? If you don’t want to spend the money, fine, you’re still a “true fan” if you think you are, but I would still rather save and spend my money towards getting the best possible picture/sound experience for Game of Thrones, as much as I could. Just my two cents.
The Lightning LordQuote Reply
I don’t remember which one, maybe the Stark video. Also, I clearly remember a version of the Targs video in which D&D talk about Targ incest and there is a shoot of Dany’s wedding in which Viserys says something like “close your eyes and think about me” as she’s leaving with Drogo. I think that part wasn’t in the show either. So there are some deleted scenes, nevermind what they say…. maybe somebody should ask D&D about this.
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
To give another analogy, if someone wanted to get the full experience of a film like Avatar or Harold and Kumar 3D (not the best example yeah, but still succinct), which I suppose big fans of those films would, they’d want to watch the 3D versions, because that’s what they were made/designed for. Similarly, Game of Thrones was made for high definition. Nuff said.
The Lightning LordQuote Reply
KG,
I thought my LOL and my passionate/poetic argument dispelled any notion of attack. Maybe the last line as it was a response to your nose hair comment but that was not my intention. I took it as skepticism and merely tried to convince you. I don’t see the harm in that. I am sorry you took that as an attack I apologize and point again to the LOL and make a bitter frustrated writer’s smile that my audio and visual accolades of what GoT would be like on BLu ray wasn’t worth commenting on….I mean that was a beautiful argument no? :-)
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
This is a completely fucking stupid statement.
Steve The PirateQuote Reply
The Lightning Lord,
Okay, here’s my *not so gentle* two cents: you’re a dick.
It is so utterly arrogant and conceited to think of yourself as superior to others just because you’re watching GoT on HD it is unbelievable. Why are you so superior to others that you have the audacity to tell somebody that they aren’t a ‘true fan?’ Oh, here’s a news flash for you: you aren’t superior. And neither is anybody inferior just because they choose to buy the DVD rather than the BR. Hell, if GRRM himself decided to watch on DVD rather than BR would you call him an inferior fan?
So why don’t you get with the times and realise that going around acting like a dickish bully just isn’t the done thing, and certainly not on this site. If you want to be Sony’s bitch and force-feed PS3′s down people’s throats just so they can be a ‘true fan’ and watch GoT on BR, then kindly take it elsewhere, where other people with a similar superiority complex all gather and leave the rest of us in peace.
And your argument makes little sense. In order to be a true fan somebody should buy a PS3 and connect it to their SDTV so they can watch a BR in SD? Oh yes, that is the height of logic you bloody numbskull. Perhaps I should start buying 3D BRs and feel like a true fan even though I don’t own a 3D ready TV. Oh yes, I think I shall – lets go and replace my entire BR and DVD collection with BR3D so I can join the exclusive club of ‘true fans.’
Actually no, on second thoughts, I think I’ll pass. I think I’ll enjoy my BR, and when S2 of GoT comes out, I shall enjoy watching on HDTV. I’ll also enjoy discussing it with other fans who have watched it on SDTV and yet, shock horror, I won’t go around screaming “you’re a bad fan!” just because they didn’t watch it on HD. In fact, I’ll just enjoy the fact that people are watching the series, which gives us more of a chance of future seasons being ordered.
Editing to add the following caveat that this is my admittedly dickish reply. If I were in a better mood I might have been more diplomatic, but hey ho, you caught me on a bad day. Enjoy.
Samantha HirstQuote Reply
Yes, ideally everyone would be able to watch GAME OF THRONE on Blu-Ray. However, there’s lots of reasons why people won’t or can’t. They can’t afford a PS3 or Blu-Ray player (in the UK at least, Blu-Ray players have only recently crept into the £50 ‘impulse buy’ range), or they can but they can’t afford a HDTV (a considerably more expensive proposition), or they are unconvinced – rightly or wrongly – by the technical improvements over DVD for the cost.
It’s also true that incredibly wealthy people in third world countries have PS3s and HDTVs. However, implying that everyone in third world countries has access to them, so people in the West not having them is ‘startling’, is an extraordinary piece of nonsensical hyperbole, outclassed only by the condescending suggesting that people only buying the DVDs are not ‘true fans’. This is not a helpful approach in furthering the discussion.
Happily, I recently got a new job with a notably better income, and have been able to purchase a new PC with a Blu-Ray player and HD monitor. GAME OF THRONES on Blu-Ray will be a Day One purchase. But it’s also true that a lot of people are not so fortunate in these troubled economic times.
In one of the trailers, an image can be glimpsed of an actor looking a lot like Sean Bean being strangled by a corded piece of rope with the Iron Throne in the background with someone sitting on it out-of-focus. It was later confirmed that a flashback to Brandon’s death had been been filmed but not shown. GRRM seemed to confirm that another actor had been cast as Brandon, whilst Ran said he’d heard from HBO that an actor had been cast as the Mad King, Aerys II, but couldn’t say who it was. My guess is that this will not revealed – and the scene not shown on the DVDs – so that HBO retain flexibility to recast Aerys if they decide they do need another flashback later on.
Adam WhiteheadQuote Reply
I’m guessing they have their reasons, surely they don’t WANT to miss out on all the potential Christmas sales… (But I can’t IMAGINE what that reason might be).
Maybe we’re all just wrong and HBO has learned that releasing disks during the holidays HURTS their sales? I dunno… I HAVE to think they know what they’re doing. (shrug) Huh…. who knows.
EdQuote Reply
Awesome. I would just replace fans with ‘certain fans’.
Epic failQuote Reply
Epic fail,
I didn’t attack anyone nor did I take what KG said as an attack. I responded to her statement in a very friendly, considerate manner. Something which you are incapable of doing. There is a great difference in giving a dissenting opinion and ridiculing the person for having said opinion. Can’t everyone just acknowledge another person’s opinion instead of becoming defensive. We don’t have to agree with them but we can respect their opinion.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
A true fan watches every episode only once so that he can remember the experience of the viewing the first time, and then only refers to the episode from memory. Once forgotten, the episode has become forgettable and none can claim they are fans of forgettable shows.
People who buy DVDs, etc, are geeks (who will argue to the death that they are fans if given the opportunity, but really they are the exact opposite of fanatic which is to say geek).
Epic failQuote Reply
Joshua Taylor,
I have no idea what you are on about (again). It would be funny but .. not really :(
I directed that post to KG and expressed gratitude for having someone else share my sentiment. I hope you won’t judge me for that. I am that I am, in case you didn’t know.
Epic failQuote Reply
Epic fail,
So by certain fans you weren’t referring to me?
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Right. I don´t know where to begin.
I live in a third world country or maybe now they call us “emerging”, I don´t care about that shit. Yes, you´re right, there are incredibly wealthy people here but they are a minority, as in the entire world I guess. There are also people with a lot of money who doesn´t care about technology and there are very poor people who would love to have some luxury as well. People are more or less the same everywhere. Fans have to buy things to support millionary businesses? What is that?
Augh, I´m tired already. I don´t know how not to get angry for some stupid things I read here today. Perplexing stupidity that makes me want to cry. I can´t believe it.
Worst: I can´t feel too angry or disappointed because I don´t live in Africa or Haiti…you know, some of you have left me speechless. I have a knot of insults in my throat and I don´t know which one choose first.
I´m sorry Adam, you (and others) are not to blame. I´m sorry.
andreaQuote Reply
Paranoid much? :/
Sir, you have offended me.
:)
Seriously it’s getting weird.
Epic failQuote Reply
I love to hear a string of colorful and enraged curses spitting out! (As long as it’s not all for me.)
Epic failQuote Reply
andrea,
There are a lot of insensitive and arrogant comments on this site as of late. I do my best to call them out on it as politely and respectfully as possible but some people just think their opinion is more important than others.
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Epic fail,
A little editing of our posts on both our ends and all is forgiven. Again :-)
Until the next row…
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
Epic fail,
The best insults I know are from Spain. They are really insulting and also very funny but right now I have insults for everyone, so I better took a few minutes to be civilized an fair.
But we have an insult that is very simple and enlightening: “boludo”. Not a string of curses but I love it.
I shouldn´t take these things so seriously.
I´m sorry to everyone, this is not the place.
andreaQuote Reply
my comment is awaiting moderation. Swear I didn´t wrote a string of curses.
Wic, if you want to delete my comments, be my guest. Like I said, it´s not the place.
andreaQuote Reply
okay, i read the last comments and my reaction was something like “WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?” Serioulsy people, DON’T argue over a BR player. It’s just not worth it
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
An insultning thread….mmmm this what I like the most :D
A third country Rabbit who does not give a damn about the latest technical miracles is sending lots of hugs & kisses to everyone here :)
The RabbitQuote Reply
thank you
and thank you
andreaQuote Reply
Silly as this is turning, I’m still going to comment, a bit late perhaps. Thanks to several helpful comments, I’ve learned quite some more about the BR technology and the comparisons of technical standards. Thanks, guys.
My plan for this year: getting a DVD box set. If it was only for me, I’d go and already invest into BR, but I want to spread the joy of Thrones to others, notably my dad, and also others who keep to the – at the moment – more widely spread DVDs. (Incidentally, I noticed HBO includes subtitles from their foreign subsidiary channels in their editions, so here’s to Slovenian! Great for showing it to even more people.)
Once the entire series is shot and completed, I’ll probably sell the DVD’s, and definitely buy the Complete Series BluRay set. So that’s the plan.
Hear Me RoarQuote Reply
The most important thing is that you support HBO by spending your money on an actual physical copy of the series, regardless of the format. Surely we can all agree on that.
ChampQuote Reply
Does anyone know when it will be out in Australia? We’re really slow getting our blu-ray/DVDs, hell we still have to get Justified (both seasons) and The Walking Dead. Yeah, our country sucks…
DanQuote Reply
Not watching in HD doesn’t make someone less of a fan. It means they either can’t afford or don’t see a need to own a device that does more or less the same thing as their DVD player when there are other things competing for their money.
But there’s also the sour grapes thing where people who don’t have it act like the difference isn’t clear and asking why people waste money on it, which is just as ridiculous, and I feel bad for you if your eyesight is that poor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j2GMNQyRSw
Blur is constantly noticeable there. It’s not a deal breaker, though, and I only rebuy the movies with the best transfers. Less than 10% of my collection.
Let people watch on the format they own without attacks. Don’t even know why it has to be said.
Blu-ray probably won’t last that long anyway. There’ll be a push to get near to film resolution with the next format, if it hasn’t all moved to streaming…
ZackQuote Reply
THIS. oh, this. Somebody (I’m looking at you Wic/HMR/Fabio!) should really put this phrase on the homepage.
Dan,
Why don’t you just buy the DVD/BR in the UK/US? This is what I’m going to do anyway. I live in Italy and I don’t want to wait months to get a horrible dubbed version of GoT. No, thanks. I mean, people in Italy call the Iron Throne “The Throne of Swords” and THAT is the title of the show here. The Throne of Swords. COME.ON.
Who would ever want to watch a show with that title?
Elena AmiciQuote Reply
Knurk,
I know I don’t have to watch the special features on a Blue-ray disc and can go to the movie/show itself…I really not as dimwitted as you make me out to be. One important reason for me in not getting on the Blue-ray format is also cost. Come next year I’m not even sure that I’ll have a job, so investing in a Blue-ray player and discs is not an option for me. If you can…well lucky you !
When I said that there will be something “new around the corner” I did not refer to the picture quality, just the way in which movies are delivered and the choice consumers will have to purchase/rent/view, and in my humble opinion once something more convenient and practical will come up, people will opt for that. I don’t think I need to point out IPod and Itunes…do I (and I still buy CD’s…)?
As for the comments about the Blue-ray disc sales flattenning out agains DVD sales, those were just based on the conversations I had with some people working in the companies I mentioned, I did not set out to do a comprehensive study on the matter, I just related what was passed on to me.
Finally, for me all the costs associated with “Game Of Thrones”, including buying the merchandise, soundtrack, subscribing to HBO, buying the e-books and the new paperback editions of ASOIF, now looking forward to the release of the DVD set…are not cheap or easy on the wallet. I do this because I love the books and the TV show and I have a tremendous respect for George RR Martin and enjoy being part of this community.
I have done my best to support the show, but there is no clearer way of turning-off fans and loosing them for good then with the kinds of douchebags and assholes that seem to have permeated Winter’s site of late and their idiotic answers and replies.
PS Let me be clear I’m not including you among them….its more of a general observation…
loco73Quote Reply
loco73,
Agree 100%. The assholes have invaded…
Joshua TaylorQuote Reply
HBO has done a great job with keeping the tone of the show away from generic fantasy. We all know ASOIAF isn’t just a standard fantasy series, but instead a dark, grisly, politically-charged saga, and HBO has reflected that in everything right down to the marketing materials and product packaging. The box set looks great and not overdone – no baroque scrolling or treasure chest-style boxes. Yet the details are in there (the dragons fighting other Great House sigil animals on the background of the disc holders are pretty cool). The set looks chic, sophisticated and respectable.
LinaQuote Reply
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