Recap Round-up: The Night Lands
By Ours is the Fury on in Press.

Here are the notable recaps and reviews of the second episode of Game of Thrones‘s second season:

Book Readers
Axechucker – our own FireandBlood – TVEquals
James Hibberd – EW
Jace Lacob – Televisionary
James Poniewozik – Time
Jenna Busch – Zap2it
Mo Ryan – The Huffington Post
Todd VanDerWerff – A.V. Club
Sarah Hughes – The Guardian
Sean T. Collins – Rolling Stone
Myles McNutt – Cultural Learnings
Charlie Jane Anders – io9
Rowan Kaiser – Press Play
Elio Garcia Jr – Westeros.org

New Viewers
Larry Williams – OtakuASSEMBLE
Alan Sepinwall – HitFix
Christina Dowling – E! Online
David Sims – A.V. Club
Jenifer D. Braun – The NJ Star-Ledger
John Kubicek – Buddy TV
Matt Richenthal – TV Fanatic

HBO also provides regular recap and “Inside the Episode” videos every week:

Youtube Link for HBO’s Recap of Episode 12


Youtube Link for “Inside The Episode- 12″


78 Comments

  1. DavosFTW!
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Seventh!

    needs more Davos!

  2. Knurk
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Why isn’t the newbie-recap up? Even if We Do Not Sow hasn’t finished it, maybe it’s smart to put up the thread anyway so others can discuss?

  3. JonathanL
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    I don’t understand why the ep was titled “The Night Lands.” A tenuous connection to Beyond the Wall, perhaps? The Night Lands sounds like Dothraki stuff, but that plotline received the briefest of moments only.

  4. Ingemar Svensson
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    David Peterson also posts a recap/review after each episode with some focus on the Dothraki, that might be useful to add to the list as well. http://www.dothraki.com/2012/04/rhaeshi-ajjalani/

  5. Knurk
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    JonathanL:
    I don’t understand why the ep was titled “The Night Lands.” A tenuous connection to Beyond the Wall, perhaps? The Night Lands sounds like Dothraki stuff, but that plotline received the briefest of moments only.

    uhm, it was pretty obvious that Irri was devastated because Rakharo’s soul couldn’t go the Nightlands because his body wasn’t burned the Dothraki way (at least with the dutch subtitles, don’t know what the US-subs said).

  6. Eleanor
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    “50 Shades of Greyjoy” nearly tops Jenifer Braun’s “Greyjoystick” for puns on that name.

    Also loving Salad or Sandwich the Pirate.

  7. Andy Gavin
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    After suffering through the week, Sunday night, Game of Thrones, night arrives. After last week’s tease, we open with Arya (finally). And the pace of things start to heat up as we see pieces put in place last week, begin to move. My full review is here.

  8. Fisher
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    The casting of Yara(Asha) is most dissappointing. She is absolutely horrible. She looks NOTHING like Asha. She looks like a valley girl fresh off the set of Clueless, dressed up in a Halloween constume and thrust into a parody. Who’s call was that one? Very bad move.

  9. dizzy_34
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Loved the reactions from across my couch on this one. Before the episode starts “There better not be anymore baby killing!”. During the episode “Oh my God I love Tyrion! Nothing bad better happen to him…nothing bad happens to him right?”

  10. Ours is the Fury
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Fisher,

    This is honestly confusing for me. She looks nothing like a valley girl, or a California-style “Clueless” girl. She is the complete opposite of that.
    I think the actress is fantastic, and has the right Yara attitude.

  11. Héctor G. López De Victoria Vélez
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    This is why we shouldn’t let fans anywhere near the casting process of this show. Whelan was amazing, yesterday.

    Fisher:
    The casting of Yara(Asha) is most dissappointing. She is absolutely horrible. She looks NOTHING like Asha. She looks like a valley girl fresh off the set of Clueless, dressed up in a Halloween constume and thrust into a parody. Who’s call was that one? Very bad move.

  12. spacechampion
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Héctor G. López De Victoria Vélez:
    This is why we shouldn’t let fans anywhere near the casting process of this show. Whelan was amazing, yesterday.

    QFT.

    Whelan was great. Haters are clueless. Just read their opinions in a Homer Simpson voice and you’ll put it in its proper context.

  13. Art
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    I’m absolutely not understanding the Asha hate. Gemma Whelan is pretty damn close to how I imagined Asha looking/behaving, as a hard woman of the Iron Islands. I think it’s great casting.

  14. Fisher
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    spacechampion,

    Hater? What exactly am I a “hater” of? The mis-casting of Asha? Then yes I am a “hater”. Her look is all wrong for me and I am certanily not alone in that opinion. If it works for you, great. I just don’t see it. Not even close. I still love the show and am a student of the books.

  15. Delta1212
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    But guys, she has blond hair. She might as well be being played by Paris Hilton!

    On a more serious note, Yara is growing on me as a name. The actress doesn’t really fit with my mental picture of Asha, but combined with the different name it puts my mind into a mode where I can imagine it’s a different character entirely who happens to have basically the same personality and fulfills the same role in the story as Asha in the books.

    I think that’s actually a plus because it’s really what all of the characters in the series are, the names (and in some case appearances) just make them harder to distinguish from their book character, and that invites comparison. For me at least, I find it easier to enjoy Yara on a level completely divorced from my book ideas than basically anyone else so far. (Not that I find it particularly difficult normally, but I do get more creeping thoughts comparing characters to the book versions with other characters than I seem to be doing with Yara).

  16. Fisher
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Art,

    If Gemma Whelan is how you pictured Asha then you simply need to go back and read the books again. Asha has short dark hair, she is lean, hard, a warrior look to her. Gemma is soft, doughy, goofy smile, nothing fierce about her at all. She needs to look more like the “Girl With the Dragon Tattoo” than Alicia Sivlerstone.

  17. Maxwell James
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Uh, I totally posted this in the wrong thread, but here’s a few more good recaps:

    Alyssa Rosenberg
    Nina Shen Rostogi
    Laura Stone

  18. OldGran
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    I agree that Yara/Asha looks nothing like book Asha,and Gemma is playing her more sullen than sardonic. However I wont give up on her just yet. Let’s see where they are going with the sibling rivalry. Theon is nonplussed.

  19. Hexonx
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Fisher,

    There are some that will call you a hater if you criticize the show in any manner. My advice would be to ignore them. However, your original point only stated that she looks nothing like you imagined and then you attacked the show runners as basically being idiots (who’s call was that?), so I can see how that may come off as a little haterish. Many of the show characters do not look as described in the books. I also thought she looked a little doughy/soft for Asha but I thought she had the malicious playfulness of Asha down.

  20. RamsaySnow
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Asha is no way how I imagined her! I too protest about this stupid miscasting.

    I always imagined her being a hot chick with axe running around in underwear (like Xena) craving over my adolescent body. Shame on you HBO, how dare you ruin my dreams! Whatever you do, evil HBO, you’ll never take Asha I imagined away, even if you are forcing this surrogate on me, there’ll still be moist spots on my bed linen in the mornings, you’ll never take true Asha from my imagination and dreams!

  21. Hexonx
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    FaB,

    I haven’t read all of the other reviews/comments yet but you bring up a very good point about Craster. I also thought it was a little weird he was sneaking off (and not very gracefully I might add) with the baby with all the “crows” camped out at his crib.

    Edit: hehe, I can see Craster advertising his sleepover: Come to Craster’s Crow Campout @ Craster’s Crib!

  22. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Any renewal news yet? They’d be stupid not to. I haven’t seen anything though.

    Gemma Whelan +1

  23. Drfunk
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Alan Sepinwall has an interesting theory on the whole LF scene. The more I think about it, i find it exceedingly clever. Arthur theorized that it was intended to show that LF was 1 step above the whole plot by watching the watchers so to speak. At the same time the transition from the capt’s daughter to that wasn’t coincidence. Alan is right that it may look like a meta joke from D&D to those who complained about the sex scenes (as in we’re peeping ourselves to the whole scenes and in some cases getting off).

    Also I hope WiC can consider adding more reviewers on that list. There are some bland reviews out there that just regurgitates a recap. It would be nice to find a balance by adding some really funny reviewers (like Hibbert).

    As others have mentioned before:

    Jordan Yerman (I think he’s a non reader)
    http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/game-thrones-s02e02-recap-review-spoilers-2912172.html

    Emily Cheever (unsure reader or not)
    http://ology.com/post/68210/-game-of-thrones-recap-the-night-lands-

    Both of these reviewers would be a fine addition to Hibbert

  24. Superdeluxe
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    The wife said that if Tyrion dies, she is out.

    dizzy_34:
    Loved the reactions from across my couch on this one. Before the episode starts “There better not be anymore baby killing!”. During the episode “Oh my God I love Tyrion! Nothing bad better happen to him…nothing bad happens to him right?”

  25. Superdeluxe
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure GRRM was kept in the loop with casting decisions, you better send off some angry emails.

    Fisher:
    The casting of Yara(Asha) is most dissappointing. She is absolutely horrible. She looks NOTHING like Asha. She looks like a valley girl fresh off the set of Clueless, dressed up in a Halloween constume and thrust into a parody. Who’s call was that one? Very bad move.

  26. Ours is the Fury
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Drfunk,

    There are so many reviews that they can’t all be included or the list simply gets too long. Feel free to share other great ones here in Comments. :)

  27. Jordan Healey
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Westeros.org pretty much spot on again.

  28. Adrian
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Where is the righteous indignation about Xaro Xhoan Daxos and Salladhor Saan being black? There’s none, because those characters don’t serve as a masturbatory fantasy that can be “ruined” by “miscasting.” You can’t complain that an actor “looks nothing like” a character for the same reason you can’t complain about costumes/styles/weapons/decor “being wrong for the period,” because NONE OF THESE THINGS ACTUALLY EXISTS. If you thought you’re the only person with an interpretation of what a character looks like and everything else is wrong and unacceptable, that’s a weird, self-important point of view.

  29. Krakow
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Here’s: My Review of GoT S02E02 Reviews Based on The First Paragraph Of Each Review:

    TVEquals: I love me a review that has “damned good” and “awesomeness” in the first paragraph. But what is the reviewer really trying to say?

    EW: More This! More That! But wait folks, there’s more! I am especially interested in the “gobs”.

    Televisionary: This reviewer obviously saw a show that studies various political persuasion. But has he watched the TV show Game of Thrones??

    Time: Still harping on the loss of Ned Stark.

    zap2it: Nitty-gritty is to the masses what in Westeros surely is the “bunghole”. And I absolutely do not want to get *into* any of my favorite character’s bungholes. 

    Mo’ Ryan: Wait.. are you suggesting the show has TOO MANY characters? Interesting… I will have to re-evaluate what exactly is wrong with the show.

    AV Club: What.. just ahead and say it: He has the personality of a lobster. That’s the real problem, duh. 

  30. Jillian
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    While there may not be an uproar yet, let’s not get ahead of ourselves and say Salladhor Saand doesn’t “serve as a masturbatory fantasy” Ladies, amirite? Just kidding around of course, and I agree with your post. Whelan seems like a fine Yara/Asha, and had far too little screentime to come to conclusions about her ability in the role.

    Adrian: Where is the righteous indignation about Xaro Xhoan Daxos and Salladhor Saan being black? There’s none, because those characters don’t serve as a masturbatory fantasy that can be “ruined” by “miscasting.” You can’t complain that an actor “looks nothing like” a character for the same reason you can’t complain about costumes/styles/weapons/decor “being wrong for the period,” because NONE OF THESE THINGS ACTUALLY EXISTS. If you thought you’re the only person with an interpretation of what a character looks like and everything else is wrong and unacceptable, that’s a weird, self-important point of view.

  31. Vanderhook
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Fisher: spacechampion, Hater? What exactly am I a “hater” of? The mis-casting of Asha? Then yes I am a “hater”. Her look is all wrong for me and I am certanily not alone in that opinion. If it works for you, great. I just don’t see it. Not even close. I still love the show and am a student of the books.

    Personally I think you’re being way too harsh. I can agree that she isn’t exactly how I imagined her in the books, but valley girl? I don’t know what about her strikes as valley girl.. Just seems like a strange criticism.

  32. Michael Harper
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if it has already been mentioned, but HBO Asia says that the finale is titled: Valar Morghulis

  33. Hexonx
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook,

    Vanderhook: I don’t know what about her strikes as valley girl..

    Maybe it’s the part where Theon says he will lead the attack and she is like, “whatever dude”, “as if”, I am “totally” gonna “like” lead the attack “duh!”. I just need to “like, totally” stop at the GAP first.

    Did you miss that part?

  34. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Jordan Healey,

    The Others take Westeros.Org. Purists are about as useful to this show as nipples on a breastplate.

    And I say that with extreme sympathy. If I was a Purist I would blow my brains out.

  35. Pau Soriano
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Well I loved the first 2 episodes (as a book reader).

    My non-reader friends, no so much (nothing really happens yadda yadda). They understand that there is a lot of character placing to do, though. (And not for a minute are they thinking about dropping it!)

    Only think I disliked is Yara. Nothing to do with the actress not resembling physically the description of the book (I really liked her picture in a WiC post when she was announced as Asha) , mind me, she just didn’t convey the , how to say it, the “Ironness”, the sterness her character should have…more thant the daughter of Balon Greyjoy it reminded me of a female version of Michael Landon in Little House of The Praire. Too Soft.

    Maybe because she went from active to passive in the groping scene with Theon. They don’t make changes like that for no reason, so probably Yara is not as bold as Asha (and everybody likes more bolder type characters, nothing to do with masturbational fantasies et al)

  36. WinterComing
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Is anybody else reading the Unspoiled Thread on Televisionwithoutpity? It seems that last year’s pretend non-reader Jimmy Cokes is back trying to impress the internet with his astute “observations”.

    If you’re reading this Jimmy Cokes. You’re pathetic.

  37. Spooks
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Fisher,
    I agree that Yara doesn’t look like how I imagined her, although I think calling her a valley girl is a bit harsh. She just doesn’t look like a warrior (they could at least have cut her hair or given her a wig!), but I can live with that. I’m more worried about the way the actress is playing her. She just seems much more subdued and quiet than book Asha. I suppose playing her too broadly might have seemed a bit camp, and she also wasn’t in the episode for very long, so I’m witholding judgement for now. But Asha’s one of my favorite characters, and I’m definitely worried that the actress isn’t doing her justice. On the other, the casting has been consistently excellent, so I’m hoping next episode will convince me how awesome Yara is!

  38. fafhrd
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Spooks:
    Fisher,
    I’m more worried about the way the actress is playing her. She just seems much more subdued and quiet than book Asha.

    Spooks,

    It’s akin to what they did with the Hound.

  39. Jason
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper:
    I don’t know if it has already been mentioned, but HBO Asia says that the finale is titled: Valar Morghulis

    Could that mean The RW is happening in the finale?

  40. Michael Harper
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Jason,

    I don’t recall Valar Morghulis having anything to do with the Red Wedding. Valar Morghulis is what Jaqen H’ghar tells Arya to say to any Braavosi she meets and gives them the iron coin that he gave her.

  41. Lars
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Jason,

    no.

  42. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    WinterComing,

    I read it all the time I love it. And yes, I saw Jimmy Cokes. I am thinking of e-mailing the site and giving them the down low on that guy.

  43. Macha
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Hexonx:
    Vanderhook,

    Maybe it’s the part where Theon says he will lead the attack and she is like, “whatever dude”, “as if”, I am “totally” gonna “like” lead the attack “duh!”. I just need to “like, totally” stop at the GAP first.

    Did you miss that part?

    I must have missed it too, umm, along with pretty much everybody else. Say what you want about Gemma Whelan’s Yara, but a valley girl? This is actually ridiculously funny. In an absurd sort of way.

    Also, on the subject of Yara…

    Spooks:
    Fisher,
    She just doesn’t look like a warrior (they could at least have cut her hair or given her a wig!), but I can live with that.

    *sigh*
    Ned, Benjen, Yoren etc have the same hair length as Yara. I simply cam’t see how this is a problem. I agree that Yara’s appearance differs from the books, D&D themselves admitted to that, pointing out that while she may not look the part, she definitely nailed the character in her audition. So, keep the faith!

  44. Lex
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    I’m honesly stunned at all the negativity I’m seeing around the Internet. Everyone I watched it with (loyal book readers all) were blown away by the episode. We all loved Gemma as Yara, and loved every scene. Yeah the Littlerfinger scene is new, and the Craster scene was new, but whatever… what’s the big deal?? These are not the major changes some people are making them out to be.

    It’s just sad, seeing so many people bitching about the “drastic changes” that are ruining the show, like Stannis sleeping with Mel (can’t believe people don’t realize it happened in the books!) or complaining about too much sex and baby killing.

    I have to conclude that there are a shockingly large number of people out there who either didn’t read the books closely enough, or are obsessively anal purists with no imagination or conception of what the word “adaptation” means. I honestly feel sorry for them, as I thought this was a 5 star episode. SO many good scenes (Tyrion/Janos, Yoren, Balon/Yara). I seriously had a huge grin on my face the entire time as I watched Westeros coming to life before my eyes.

    Anyways, end rant.

  45. Vanderhook
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Macha: I must have missed it too, umm, along with pretty much everybody else. Say what you want about Gemma Whelan’s Yara, but a valley girl? This is actually ridiculously funny. In an absurd sort of way.

    I think he was being facetious :P

  46. Macha
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook: I think he was being facetious :P

    Whoops, I’m sorry, you’re right, my reply was actually meant for another poster, I had them mixed up. Ugh, all this negativity went to my brain, it seems.
    Apologies, Hexonx, my bad!

  47. Maxwell James
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    It’s just going to get worse. Not because the show is getting worse – I personally think it’s even better than last year – but because folks are no longer concerned over whether it will be a hit, so they feel much more free to nitpick.

    Which I sympathize with, sort of, since I’ve done my share. But the show is what it is. There are no new flaws this year that weren’t already there last year, and the best parts of it, which are the majority, have gotten even better. I can just enjoy it without carping now.

  48. Hexonx
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    No problem, I was totally being faceti.., um, whatever that means. ;P

  49. Jason
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper:
    Jason,

    I don’t recall Valar Morghulis having anything to do with the Red Wedding. Valar Morghulis is what Jaqen H’ghar tells Arya to say to any Braavosi she meets and gives them the iron coin that he gave her.

    You are right. But the reason I think of RW is because in the trailer Arya says people call him young wolf, and he can’t be killed, and then said anyone can be killed

    BTW I forgot about Arya killing one of the guard using the coin as a bait during escape . But I suspect someone more important would die because of the title…couldn’t remember who died at the end of book two…maybe they’ll give an impression that Davos is dead during battle of blackwater?

  50. Nagga's Kin
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Not having read the books, I’m honestly baffled by the poutrage over Yara.

    As for her appearance: even for a highborn lady, her skin is very fair for someone living on windswept Pyke, not to mention out at sea. She also doesn’t look athletic, what with plump cheeks, a little protuding belly fat and hips that are wider than her bust. She looks fit for child-bearing rather than reaving.

    However, the whole point is that her somewhat plain Jane looks are meant to deceive: right off the bat, she pretends to be just a maid ripe for the plucking and even lets her brother get to second base, only to show him up later on. Such spur-of-the-moment feminine whiles require a lot of confidence. She gets that from her intelligence, her command experience, her knowledge of what makes men tick and the esteem in which Balon holds her. She knows the Iron price is the only one that matters in her world and, she will pay it without hesitation. In the context of GoT’s machiavellian machinations, that is what makes her sexy.

  51. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    Agreed. I’m always stunned by the number of people who are appalled by the sex and violence on a TV show that is centered around a man fucking his twin sister and throwing a child out of a window. I mean, what did they expect?

    With that being said, I can understand some of the complaints concerning the changes from the book. That’s not to say that I think they ruin the show (which couldn’t be further from the truth), but I do have some sympathy for the purists who would like to see GRRM’s vision translated to the screen word for word.

    But, as far as Mel+Stannis and Craster’s Sons are concerned, that was all alluded to in the books, but never clearly spelled-out (much like Renly+Loras). Some people need these things spoon fed to them, whereas others are more adept at reading deeper into things. It must be remembered that the books were written in POV form, which is difficult to translate to the screen (since you can’t read a character’s thoughts or feel what they feel). Therefore, the only way to avoid these kinds of changes (i.e. making scenes that were only implied in the books obvious on the TV show) would be to have a narrator spell-out every character’s thoughts and feelings as we go along, which would be a terrible idea.

    The thing with Craster’s Sons was more of a change than Stannis+Mel, but it pretty much verified a long-standing theory I’ve had about the nature of the White Walkers and their connection to the North, and the Stark family in particular, but I’ll leave that for another time.

    The only thing that has surprised me is how blatantly evil Littlefinger has been portrayed (perhaps I’m wrong about that, but I’ve always felt he was a much more nuanced character in the books; more of a player than belligerent asshole). For example, I simply can’t imagine book-version LF teasing Cersei about twincest. That’s just complete stupidity right there. But, regardless, I don’t necessarily mind his depiction on the show, especially if GRRM has given his ok on it (which you’ve got to figure he has), I just prefer LF from the books to this one. That’s all.

  52. Nick Larter
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Posted this in the wrong thread earlier, sorry:

    There’s a lot of recaps out there. On top of the ones listed in this post I just wanted to plug the one I always head for first: lurching between wild inaccuracy, the odd doubtless accidental and always unexpected lightning bolt of deep insight and an at times touching naivity. It’s hugely politically incorrect, off the wall and very very funny – thank you Jordan Yerman!

    http://www.nowpublic.com/culture/game-thrones-s02e02-recap-review-spoilers-2912172.html

  53. MRR
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    I’m nobody important, but I enjoy writing (and have delusions that I’m halfway decent at it) and so have started posting my own reviews of GoT season 2 (along with a few other articles on this-and-that) at culturemudgeon.blogspot.com. Feel free to check them out! Since I don’t have access to screener copies my reviews will probably be going up on Mondays following the Sunday air time.

  54. KG
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    To the anti-Yaras:

    Have you ever seen a *real* biker chick? They do NOT look like they stepped out of Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! They are angry, hard-eyed things.

  55. Langkard
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Alan Sepinwall just made me a fan for life by noticing the similarity between the return of Rakharo to Dany’s camp and David Lean’s incredible scene introducing Sharif Ali from Lawrence of Arabia. L of A is on my list of the top 5 movies ever made and GoT is certainly #1 on my list of best TV series.

    From here on out, I shall refer to Yara/Asha as Stephanie. Hibberd did a great review. “Weak rhymes with meek” indeed. I see what you did there.

  56. garik16
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    I’d point out that Yara’s first scene is one where she’s tricking Theon, not one where she’s in full captain Asha mode. Let’s see what she wears the rest of the season.

  57. A Bear_A Bear
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Lex: I have to conclude that there are a shockingly large number of people out there who either didn’t read the books closely enough, or are obsessively anal purists with no imagination or conception of what the word “adaptation” means.Anyways, end rant.

    Agreed. And a lot of people under the misapprehension that their personal envisionings of characters and scenes from their book-reading matter to anybody other than them (and then getting pissed-off when other people won’t agree with them). That said, it’s not something unique to ASOIAF/GoT fandom by any means – it’s just the internets in all their “glory”. ;)

    For me this series is continuing to build on the success of S1, and all of the changes make dramatic and practical sense and all of the actors nail their roles. I realise saying this will mark me out as a shill and a fanboy in the eyes of some.

  58. Two Feathers
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    KG:
    To the anti-Yaras:

    Have you ever seen a *real* biker chick? They do NOT look like they stepped out of Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! They are angry, hard-eyed things.

    LOL!!!…. OMG you just described my ” old lady”…………:)

  59. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    I thought of Sharif Ali as soon as I saw that horse approaching as well. Any reference to the great David Lean is fine by me. They are doing a wonderful job with this production, especially this season.

    Speaking of Lean, doesn’t Iain Glen’s Ser Jorah kind of remind you of Alec Guinness?

  60. Steven Swanson
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Jordan Healey: Westeros.org pretty much spot on again.

    If by “spot on” you mean “extremely anal and way too attached to the original text” then I agree 100%.

  61. Lex
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Wondering why FaB consistently misspells Greyjoy and Grey Wind (as “Grayjoy” and “Gray Wind”)? Come on, FaB!

    EDIT: Okay it’s not quite consistent, he sometimes says “Greyjoy” and sometimes “Grayjoy”. I’ve personally always much preffered the spelling of “grey” to “gray”.

  62. Steven Swanson
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    WinterComing: Is anybody else reading the Unspoiled Thread on Televisionwithoutpity? It seems that last year’s pretend non-reader Jimmy Cokes is back trying to impress the internet with his astute “observations”.If you’re reading this Jimmy Cokes. You’re pathetic.

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who suspected that poster of being full of it. There’s another one called “a guy” who I’m not so sure about either.

  63. WinterComing
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    I have no sympathy for anal book purists. It’s a book series written partly as a reaction to the constraints of TV production. The fact that it’s being adapted successfully at all is a minor miracle.

  64. Obsidian
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Hughes of The Guardian nails it for me with these points

    “Talking of things I’m not sure about, Aidan Gillen’s performance is increasingly one of them. He lacks a certain charm as Littlefinger – odd in itself given that Gillen is usually a very charming actor – and the scene with Ros was a slow moment in an otherwise well-paced episode. I’m not sure whether Gillen doesn’t have the measure of his character, or if the problem lies with the script, but at the moment Littlefinger seems to do far too much telling and not enough showing, to the detriment of his storylines.

    The brief scene between Arya and Gendry on the other hand was beautifully done, and I would happily watch more of Joe Dempsie and Maisie Williams sparring in a “not quite brother and sister” rough-and-tumble way.”

    ..And I definitely feel it’s more to do with the way LF is scripted. I would also have appreciated more banter between Theon / (Asha ) Yara and a bit less of the captain’s daughter , given the time constraints.

    ETA : RE Yara’s looks … since they didn’t make Theon dye his hair in the first series ( OK with me ) .. the colouring of both Yara and Balon make the three perfectly believable as members of the same family.

  65. Winterfell Burning
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Boy, the number of reviewers did increase, didn’ it? The Boardwalk Empire producers must be kicking themselves seeing GoT stealing the show’s thunder (mind you, I do watch and enjoy BE, but it didn’t fully lived up to the hype and awards).

  66. Nymeria
    Posted April 9, 2012 at 10:49 pm | Permalink

    Hi Winter!

    Just a thought: it would be nice to have a line where you summarize whether the episode was generally well received or not on these posts, or a thumbs up or down besides each link… Unfortunately, I don’t always have time to read all the reviews but I still want to know whether the critics liked it or not.

  67. All_Men_Must_Post
    Posted April 10, 2012 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Wrote this on my blog, but quick reactions:
    What I liked:
    You should’ve stopped at Imp. With Life’s Too Short and Tyrion, HBO is by far the most little-person friendly network on television. Tyrion did not disappoint tonight. In a slight departure from the books, Tyron demonstrated that he knows the game of thrones too well by tossing Janos Slynt out and Bronn in. Peter Dinklage’s deft handling of this scene, combining poise and pomp, was his second best scene of the night.
    The first joke. I really enjoy the Lannisters not just as characters in the book and show, but also the actors who play them are really the peak of the litter. This tense exchange between Cersei and Tyrion really crystallizes the sadness that hangs over the Lannister siblings, and how only they know how to hurt each other the most. Lena Headey did a wonderful job in this scene but the scene belonged to Peter Dinklage.
    The Spider swims. While we’re at it, let’s not forget that Varys is still a scheming eunuch. Shows up in Tyrion’s private chambers, collecting intel, just a chatty Cathy. Big fish eat the little ones right? Not my problem, come get some.
    Pyke. I really don’t like the Greyjoys in the book but I have to admit, I got super excited when Pyke showed up on the map, and then in the show. You can tell the production value on this show has gotten better.
    What I didn’t like:
    Sexy time with (fill in the blank). Look, I’m a big fan of (let’s call it adult situations), but tonight was a bit too much. I think seeing Theon’s greyjoy and then the Littlefinger peep show was over the top. Although, I did like Petyr’s little anecdote at the end. I’m neutral on the Stannis scene. On one hand, extraneous. On the other, I do find the actress who plays Melisandre quite striking. Conundrum.

  68. Langkard
    Posted April 10, 2012 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Langkard,

    I thought of Sharif Ali as soon as I saw that horse approaching as well. Any reference to the great David Lean is fine by me. They are doing a wonderful job with this production, especially this season.

    Speaking of Lean,doesn’t Iain Glen’s Ser Jorah kind of remind you of Alec Guinness?

    Agreed. Is there a cinematography award for TV shows or is it all just bundled into the directing categories? Both the directing and the cinematography have been magnificent so far this season. The final shot down the King’s Road in episode one last week was another visual which reminds me of the way Sir David Lean directed.

    You may be right about Iain Glen. His delivery is very understated like that of Sir Alec Guinness. Maybe it’s the RADA influence on Glen. Sean Bean and Mark Addy are both also alumni of the RADA; however, Guinness was an Old Vic alumni but didn’t attend the Royal Academy.

  69. Dee
    Posted April 10, 2012 at 3:39 am | Permalink

    Thoughts on GOT from a Westorosi panel:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n45jiopuoB0

    It’s hilarious.

  70. MATTHEW
    Posted April 10, 2012 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    I penned my own review of Episode 12 on my facebook page.

    Here’s an excerpt:
    STANNIS AND MELLYMEL DO IT ON THE PAINTED TABLE:

    How hot was this scene????!!!!! Beguiling Dutchwoman Carice van Houten needs scintillating buckets of sex and molten gobs of charisma for us to buy her in her role as the seductive, terrifying red priestess Melisandre, and, baby, she brings it! As she cooed into the impressionable Matthos’s ear, I wanted to scream in horror on Davos Seaworth’s behalf, “GET AWAY FROM MY SON!!!!”

    Then, as Davos and Matthos, make their exit, gingerly sidling along the wall to conceal their erections, Meilsandre wastes no time showing the erstwhile incorruptible Lord Stannis precisely what sort of priestly relics she conceals beneath those fabulous red silks. If I have any complaint about the staging, it is in this instant, where the Stannis/Mel dynamic veers dangerously close to awkward and clunky; as a prophet and seer of the Lord of Light, the best bewitchery Mel can summon to bring this man into her fold, as it were, is to chuck off her robes and essentially say “let’s fuck” while the only resistance Stannis (who is, by all accounts, utterly unbending in his honor, more robot than man) can offer is “er…. der… please… I’m a married man….we shouldn’t be doing this”??? I fear this reduces both of these larger-than-life characters, making them look too human, too early, but this is a minor quibble… the important thing is that Carice looks AMAZING, clothed or naked (can someone give an Emmy to whomever designed that stupendous red wig of hers?), and the very idea of banging the red priestess on the Painted Table will warm every fanboy’s sploogy imagination for months on end. Yowza.

    Read my full review here but beware it is long-winded and full of spoilers:
    http://www.facebook.com/notes/matthew-warren-richey/mwr-reviews-game-of-thrones-season-2-episode-2-the-night-lands-contains-major-sp/10150749837649905

  71. fuelpagan
    Posted April 10, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    I thought it was a strong episode.

    Things I love about the episode.
    Arya and Gendry of course. Great rapport between the characters. A lot of ground was covered in those 2 scenes and I look forward to what lies ahead.

    Really enjoying Littlefinger this season so far. The scene with Ros was great. I loved the compassion in his voice while making it clear he has no problem being ruthless if he has too. For me that is the essence of Littlefinger. The peep show was a great way to try and demonstrate how even those playing the game are simply pawns to Littlefinger. Unfortunately because of the sexual nature it seems the point is being completely overlooked and labeled incorrectly.

    Alfie Allen is killing it as Theon. The range he displays from the expectations of the joyful homecoming in the cabin, to the realization his father no longer even views Theon as the rightful heir, is just fantastic.

    Davos. They really are doing a good job with showing how strong Davos’ loyalty to Stannis is.

    Melisandre. Really digging her take on the character.

    Issues I had with the episode
    I have nothing against the actress playing Yara. When she was first casted I had no issues with it. And after watching the episode a couple of times, she is growing on me. For me the mistake was in hair and makeup. I think they could have done a better job with bringing out the actresses beauty while trying to fit her look in with the culture of the Iron Islands.

    My other minor nitpick is with the editing of the sex scenes. I have no problem sexposition. I think it is a great tool. But I feel they drag it out hoping to mask the exposition better. In reality, it just draws more attention. Like a balding man growing his hair long to try to mask it with a comb over, when in reality, going shorter is a much better look. The Littlefinger peepshow, I have no problem at all with. It was short and I get what they were trying to demonstrate. Theon in the cabin was good. It did a good job of showing Theon’s expectations of his homecoming, as well as portray some of the culture of the Iron Islands. I wish they would have cut away before flipping her over and pounding her doggie style. It just cheapened the scene for me. The same goes with the Stannis/Mel scene. The seduction was great, but it should have ended with Stannis pushing Mel onto the table. I don’t need to see toys falling around Stannis’ feet to know what is going on.

  72. userj
    Posted April 10, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    WinterComing:
    Is anybody else reading the Unspoiled Thread on Televisionwithoutpity? It seems that last year’s pretend non-reader Jimmy Cokes is back trying to impress the internet with his astute “observations”.

    If you’re reading this Jimmy Cokes. You’re pathetic.

    I follow that thread obsessively and have gotten several book walkers banned. I’ll make sure to send the mods a note. We should be able to get him banned. If you see any “smoking guns” pm the mods and they will take care of it.

    Im a little worried about new poster a guy. He claims he just watched the whole season but he is def spoiled to some things. For example he randomly seems to know that melisandre and stannis each have their own set of loyalists from among stannis men… How?

  73. userj
    Posted April 10, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Dee:
    Thoughts on GOT from a Westorosi panel:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n45jiopuoB0

    It’s hilarious.

    Indeed it was.
    Especially how tony stark has a taxidermy fox with him.

  74. Scott
    Posted April 11, 2012 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Andy Greenwald does a newbie review of the show for Grantland.com. I think he does a good job, and he’s a huge fan of the show. Maybe for future Recap Round Ups?

  75. KG
    Posted April 11, 2012 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    I know. They won’t ban those two, and yet I got banned for posting that “Grog is watered-down rum” in the no spoilers section … just because I’ve read the book.

    That site is totally bullshit. Avoid at all costs.

  76. afartherroom
    Posted April 11, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Jimmy Cokes has fallen silent on TWOP’s Unsullied thread. I know that questions have been raised about his veracity as a non-reader before. It’s possible that the mods have finally decided they can no longer give him the benefit of the doubt.

    I’m still agnostic when it comes to “a guy,” myself. I do see some red flags there, but I’m willing to withhold judgment on him for now. Ulle had some startlingly suspicious stuff last year too, and yet I’m completely convinced that she was on the up-and-up (and I really miss her this year, too! I wonder if she read the books, or if she’s just been busy with other things).

    I love that thread with a passion. One of my favorite things about it is the nicknames the posters come up with for characters whose names they can’t quite remember and just can’t be arsed to look up. “Treasonbeard” (for Pycelle) and “Ser Drunk” (for Dontos) never fail to make me giggle — especially Ser Drunk, which I find to have a delightfully Stannis-like quality to it.

  77. Lars
    Posted April 12, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Yep, I am also a frequent reader of the TWOP Unsullied thread. I’m hoping that ‘Jimmy Cokes’ stays away for good.


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