HBO releases details and summaries of episodes 16-19
By Ours is the Fury on in News.

HBO has issued a press release with the details and summaries of episodes 16, 17, 18, and 19, of season two of Game of Thrones. The full press release is after the break. Be warned that the episode summaries WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS! The descriptions are thorough so please proceed at your own caution!

The full release:

Episode #16: “The Old Gods and the New”

Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 6 (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET/PT)

Other HBO playdates: May 6 (11:00 p.m.), 8 (11:00 p.m.), 9 (10:00 p.m.) and 12 (1:00 a.m.) HBO2 playdates: May 7 (9:00 p.m.), 10 (8:00 p.m.), 11 (11:00 p.m.) and 13 (3:45 p.m.)

Theon (Alfie Allen) completes his master stroke. In King’s Landing, the Lannisters send Myrcella (Aimee Richardson) from harm’s way in the nick of time. Arya (Maisie Williams) comes face to face with a surprise visitor; Dany (Emilia Clarke) vows to take what is hers; Robb (Richard Madden) and Catelyn (Michelle Fairley) receive crucial news; Qhorin (Simon Armstrong) gives Jon (Kit Harington) a chance to prove himself.

Written by Vanessa Taylor; directed by David Nutter.

 

Episode #17: “A Man Without Honor”

Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 13 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)

Other HBO playdates: May 13 (11:00 p.m.), 15 (11:00 p.m.), 16 (10:00 p.m.) and 19 (1:30 a.m.) HBO2 playdates: May 14 (9:00 p.m.), 17 (8:00 p.m.), 18 (midnight) and 20 (1:00 p.m.)

Jaime (Nicolaj Coster-Waldau) meets a distant relative;Dany receives an invitation to the House of the Undying; Theon leads a search party; Jon loses his way in the wilderness; Cersei (Lena Headey) counsels Sansa (Sophie Turner).

Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss; directed by David Nutter.

 

Episode #18: “The Prince of Winterfell”

Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 20 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)

Other HBO playdates: May 20 (11:00 p.m.), 22 (11:00 p.m.), 23 (10:00 p.m.) and 26 (12:55 a.m.) HBO2 playdates: May 21 (9:00 p.m.), 24 (8:00 p.m.), 25 (midnight) and 27 (4:00 p.m.)

At Winterfell, Theon receives a visitor and holds down the fort. Arya calls in her final debt with Jaqen (Tom Wlaschiha) in a way that displeases him. Robb is betrayed. Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) and Varys (Conleth Hill) find common ground. Dany ignores Jorah’s (Iain Glen) advice. Stannis (Stephen Dillane) and Davos (Liam Cunningham) approach their destination, and Davos is offered a reward.

Written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss; directed by Alan Taylor.

 

Episode #19: “Blackwater”

Debut: SUNDAY, MAY 27 (9:00-10:00 p.m.)

Other HBO playdates: May 27 (11:00 p.m.), 28 (8:00 p.m.), 29 (11:00 p.m.) and 30 (10:00 p.m., midnight), and June 1 (10:00 p.m.) and 2 (10:15 p.m.) HBO2 playdates: May 28 (9:00 p.m.) and 31 (8:00 p.m., 9:00 p.m., 10:00 p.m.)

Tyrion and the Lannisters fight for their lives as Stannis’ fleet assaults King’s Landing.

Written by George R.R. Martin; directed by Neil Marshall.

 


126 Comments

  1. Carne
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Weren’t these summaries released weeks ago?

  2. Lars
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    No, some more detail has been added.

    And is this the first official confirmation of the “House of the Undying”? :-)

  3. Dan
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Sweet!

  4. Michael Harper
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Theon (Alfie Allen) completes his master stroke. In King’s Landing, the Lannisters send Myrcella (Aimee Richardson) from harm’s way in the nick of time. Arya (Maisie Williams) comes face to face with a surprise visitor; Dany (Emilia Clarke) vows to take what is hers; Robb (Richard Madden) and Catelyn (Michelle Fairley) receive crucial news; Qhorin (Simon Armstrong) gives Jon (Kit Harington) a chance to prove himself.

    Theon completing his master stroke, and Robb & Catelyn receiving crucial news in the same episode – c’mon, that’s gotta be the Bran/Rickon “death” right?

  5. Conor
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper

    Theon completing his master stroke, and Robb & Catelyn receiving crucial news in the same episode – c’mon, that’s gotta be the Bran/Rickon “death” right?

      


    I think that’s him taking over Winterfell.

    The next ep says he goes on a hunt. That’s more likely the ep of the “Deaths”

  6. carl
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    who the hell is Jamie’s distant relative? wracking my brain but no luck…

  7. lefaisan
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    carl,

    Alton Lannister ?

  8. Dan
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    carl,

    99% it’s Cleos ;) (Alton Lannister in the show). He meets with him and takes up on the trip with him and Brienne.

  9. Lala
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    carl,

    Jeyne Lannister??

  10. Michael Harper
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Conor,

    Ahh yes, I didn’t read that bit about the hunt! :)

  11. Tomer Segal
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Jaime’s relative on ep7 is Alton IMO. Nikolaj said in an interview that one of the scenes he liked to do the most in his entire acting career is in episode 7.. cant wait

  12. Juan
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Robb is betrayed: Karstark? Just hoping they haven’t done the unthinkable and gone ahed with the RW already!

  13. Tom Hedwyn Savage
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm, very interesting. Literally can’t wait for the Battle of blackwater! Tyrion, Davos and the hound are literally going to kick ass. I wonder if their going to do the attempted assassination of Tyrion by Cersei and the loss of his nose I sure bloody hope so! Bit confused about the

    Jon gets lost in the wild

    , don’t remember much happening between him leaving the fist and the attack on the lookout post ; but it has been ages since i’ve read clash. Also confused about

    Robb is betrayed

    – maybe their moving karstarks attack on the lannisters or the freys storming off forward a series. Can’t wait though for Theons story, jons story, Arya…what am i kidding myself – ican’t wait for all of it!!!

  14. Mimsy
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    I’ll assume the “betrayal” is Theon killing Bran and Rickon. I’m not ready for a RW. Maybe this episode will be when we learn Jeyne isn’t who Robb thinks she is.. (betrayal) ..but it’s too late for Robb cuz he’s on his way to the Frey’s.

  15. Lars
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    I think ‘Robb is betrayed’ means either:
    – by Theon, he realizes what Theon has done
    or
    – by his Mother, Cat releases the Kingslayer
    I’m leaning towards the latter possibility.

  16. NoHeddardStark
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Lars,

    Another possibility: I actually think he’s betrayed by Karstark. He’s given orders to leave Jaime/Alton alone, but Karstark tries to recapture him. Robb then has to execute him for being a traitor, despite being one of his sworn bannermen.

  17. Maxwell James
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    As I said in the prior thread, Jon getting lost in the wilderness sounds a hell of a lot like his last chapter in ACOK. And that’s only episode 7!

    Also, interestingly, the earlier summary said Jaime meets a relative, not a _distant_ relative. Strongly suggests said relative is not surname Lannister.

  18. John W
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    “Dany (Emilia Clarke) vows to take what is hers”

    That pretty much sums up Dany’s entire plot thread for season 2.

  19. Ours is the Fury
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    John W: “Dany (Emilia Clarke) vows to take what is hers”

    “WITH FIRE AND BLOOD.”
    I wonder if Dany says the same thing when they take too long to bring her order at restaurants.

  20. Arthur
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I don’t think they serve raw stallon hearts at any restaurants, even in Europe…

  21. Steven Swanson
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    John W: “Dany (Emilia Clarke) vows to take what is hers”That pretty much sums up Dany’s entire plot thread for season 2.

    I can’t wait for her plot thread summary when they get to season 5/6, “Ohhhhh, Daaaaario!!!”

  22. space pope
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    so the house of the undying will make it into the show after all

  23. Kit
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Any idea on what Davos’s reward is? I haven’t quite gotten to Blackwater yet in my ACoK reread so I can’t quite remember the preparations–are they going as far ahead to making him Stannis’s hand and Lord of the Rainwood already, which doesn’t happen until ASoS? Or is it just Davos getting to captain a ship in the battle or something (not that that would really be a reward for him; he does that kind of thing all the time)?

  24. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Hey Arthur! Haven’t seen you around in these parts for a while! I had assumed you spontaneously combusted when Natalie Dormer took off her top.

  25. Fer
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy,

    Another possibility is the betrayal is Catelyn releasing Jamie

  26. Tom Hedwyn Savage
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Kit,

    I can’t really remember clash, but i didn’t think Davos was offered a reward. He just wants to serve Stannis. He usually just wants to do his duty to his rightful king. Could be completely wrong though.

  27. Mimsy
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Fer,

    Yes, that is a huge betrayal.. so many betrayals, I’ve lost count! :)

  28. Arthur
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Fer,

    That’s what it is! Because episode 7 that Nik kept saying was his fav is him being a badass swordsman…

    So it would make sense for Cat to do what she does with Jamie after that.

  29. DavidBC
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Episode 6 clearly states that Jon will kill Qhorin.

    Therefore we are going to see a lot of Jon’s Storm of Swords arc in the last 4 episodes. Maybe even the death of Mormont.

  30. Carolina H
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    jaime meets a distant relative- hopefully it isn’t jeyne. can’t remember, but aren’t the westerling’s related to the lannisters?
    & i think Cersei talking to Sansa will be when she has her moonblood for the first time..?

  31. Kit
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    DavidBC,

    Qhorin giving Jon a chance to prove himself isn’t necessarily Jon’s killing of Qhorin–Qhorin lets Jon go on the two-person mission to take out the wildling spies, which is where Jon first encounters Ygritte. I think that’s what this is referring to, as Jon not only proves his bravery (it’s a dangerous mission as they have to basically climb up the side of a mountain) but also proves what kind of person he is by letting Ygritte go, which in the books proves what kind of man he is, in Qhorin’s own words.

  32. Langkard
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    I am looking forward to #18 with Arya and Jaqen. One of my favorite scenes in the books. It should be enough to tide me over for the long week wait for the Blackwater!

  33. lonas
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    mmm whos visiting Theon? Could that be Reek?

  34. Magnus
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Maybe Davos’ reward is Stannis promising that Melisandre will not be there for the battle.

  35. Magnus
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    lonas:
    mmm whos visiting Theon? Could that be Reek?

    No, probably Yara. She (well, Asha) visits him in the book too, after he fakes the deaths of Bran and Rickon.

  36. Isabelle
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps Jon “losing his way in the wilderness” is a reference to his interaction with Ygritte, to how she makes him think about and question the relationship/dynamic between the men of the Nights Watch and the wildlings. This would also tie in with the title (“man without honour”) as she might bring up some points that make him question his general commitment to his mission/vows, especially if his segment in the episode ends with him letting her live, a move that is supposedly at odds with potential orders. I take that Quorin “giving him a chance to prove himself” in the previous episode refers to the attack the wildling camp (Ygritte, Orell, etc), thereby setting the stage nicely for an episode of Ygritte-Jon interaction. It’s going to be important to introduce her character to the audience. I’m guessing that his last chapter in ACOK will be in later episodes.

    (First post here I’m afraid, so I hope I used the spoiler tags appropriately)

  37. Langkard
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle,

    You did it perfectly and I suspect that you are correct in your assessment. And welcome!

  38. LordEddardStark
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think Jon’s arc from ASoS will peak into this season. Mance Rayder hasn’t been cast yet, and he plays a big part in the beginning of Jon’s story in ASoS, so obviously Jon getting lost in the wild is just him and the other Night’s Watchmen hunting down the Wildlings and getting “lost”.

  39. Rukie44
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Based on the description of episode 19, it looks like it wll mostly cover the Battle of Blackwater. Strange how the description mentions nothing else of importance happening. An entire episode devoted to the biggest battle in the series, or are the producers hiding other events.

    Also, I think the attack on the Black Brothers by the White Walkers would be an excellent way to cliffhanger the Night’s Watch portion of the story. It happens at the begining of ASoS anyways, right?

  40. Isabelle
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    I’m really interested to see how Cersei “counsels” Sansa. If the scene between Sophie Turner and Lena Headey in episode 13 is any indication, it’s going to be a tense, deliciously nuanced affair. I’m anxious to see how Sansa responds to Cersei, if at all.

    Langkard,

    Many thanks! : ) I’m a looooooooooong time lurker, so it is strange indeed to see my own words on the page, especially in the company of posts from people/usernames that any WiC reader/lurker can recognise given enough time!

  41. Jason
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Meeting a distant relative is obviously Alton (Cleo), Jeyne is not possible since that would change the plot too much

    My thoughts on Theon arc:

    Master stroke — Theon captures Winterfell
    Leads a search party — for the kids obviously, and the “death” will probably happen in the same episode
    Visitor — Asha, which is seen in the preview/greyjoy house feature as she rides through Winterfell gate — and the kids are ‘dead’ already if you pay attention the thing hanging under Stark banner

    That leaves 2 episodes — 9 and 10. If Reek is pushed to next season, Theon will have nothing to do for the 2 episodes… So I actually thing Reek and sack of Winterfell is in this season! And producers are hiding it from being spoiled while hyping the Battle of Blackwater (notice the ep9 summary is kept short)

  42. Jason
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Rukie44,

    See my post, I think they are hiding Sack of Winterfell. And I agree the season will probably end with aHOOoooooooo aHOOOOooooooo aHoooooooooo

  43. Lala
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Jason,

    I hope you’re right. I would LOVE Reek/Ramsay being in this season already. It is theorised that he has indeed been cast but they’re hiding the fact that the actor (whoever he is) is an important character, and not just a “Reek” by not putting it out there. So the audience would think that he’s just a nobody, while he’s very important further on.
    But it’s only a theory, I guess. Hope for the best, expect the worst (no Reek)

  44. Jason
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Lala:
    Jason,

    I hope you’re right. I would LOVE Reek/Ramsay being in this season already. It is theorised that he has indeed been cast but they’re hiding the fact that the actor (whoever he is) is an important character, and not just a “Reek” by not putting it out there. So the audience would think that he’s just a nobody, while he’s very important further on.
    But it’s only a theory, I guess. Hope for the best, expect the worst (no Reek)

    Some more stuff supporting the theory
    Alfie Allen, who plays Theon Greyjoy, was most helpful with your demand when EW caught up with him at the SAG awards. Preview: Dragons! Full scoop: “Basically, John Snow goes out into the wilderness; my character ends up going back to see his family, and a lot of dragons basically happen in the second season. I loved working with Patrick Malahide, who played my dad, and Gemma Whelan, who played my sister.” But his favorite episode of the season? The same as co-star Emilia Clarke, episode 9. “Fighting. Killing. Killing and fire,” he says bluntly — and never have five simple words made me so excited.

    You are right, hope for the best, expect the worst!

  45. Louisa
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    This is completely O-T, but does anybody know why Josef Altin (Pyp) did not return for the second season? He’s supposed to be with Jon and co. right?

  46. Atlas
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    DavidBC,

    I’m not so sure about that. Wasn’t the test Jon going off with that climber to kill the wildlings by the fire, and then later choosing to not kill his captive (Ygritte)?

  47. sunspear
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Carolina H,

    I’d be surprised if they show that, but I hope they do. That scene was one of the best in ACOK.

  48. Ours is the Fury
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Louisa,

    No, he’s not in season 2. Pyp was left at the Wall in A Clash of Kings, and wasn’t on the ranging beyond the Wall. So no Altin in S2.

  49. Zach
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    I was wondering this myself, but I think he wasn’t in the book either. Too bad – I wish they’d put him in the show. Grenn without Pyp? Why do that to us, George? Why, Dan and David?

    I hope he comes back next season!

  50. userj
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Ugh the Dany summaries just sound so blaaahhhh this season. I’m hoping they are being purposefully vague to avoid spoilers.

    And I’m still worried form the previews and these recaps they are going with some caricature version who yells about “what’s hers” all the time and doens’t listen to anyone (“ignores Jorah’s advice?” what the f??? Dany always listens to his advice, then decides what to do with it, and any other information, in mind. The fact that what she decides to do is not always what he advises does not mean she ignores his advice – *SIGH*.

    If you’ve actually read aCoK – or ANY of the books – this out of character.

    #$*@$)(!@&$)!@(*$!@

    Okay ending the rant. So far the Dany scenes have been fine (all 2 minutes of them) and last season was fucking epic. So I should try not to worry.

  51. Mel
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    House of the Undying?!?! WAAAAT

    All I wanna see is that blue flower on a wall of ice…

  52. Andrew
    Posted April 19, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    Sack must happen this season, come on guys, it’s insane to keep insisting that it will be put off till next season. Sack will be rewritten to not involve RB, it will happen in some other way but end in the capture of that character by the B’s.

  53. Ismael Isak
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:12 am | Permalink

    Juan,

    No way they are totally saving that stuff for season 3

  54. Kevin
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:15 am | Permalink

    I wonder how they’ll handle the house of the undying. I hope they’ll keep the song of ice and fire line!

  55. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    Officially excited for HOD. Especially since X Files pro David Nutter is directing that episode! I have faith that he will deliver a great sequence.

    Kevin,

    I too want to hear “He already has a song, he is the prince that was promised, his is the song of ice and fire” Immediate goosebumps guaranteed.

  56. Nimble Dick
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    This would be a good time to have a time machine

  57. Morgan King
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    I think the real question is whether or not Dany’s vision in the House of the Undying will feature the RW premonition with the wolf-headed king – I couldn’t believe how many hints there are about it in CoK. Theon dreams of it, too.

  58. Alan
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 2:28 am | Permalink

    Andrew:
    Sack must happen this season, come on guys, it’s insane to keep insisting that it will be put off till next season. Sack will be rewritten to not involve RB, it will happen in some other way but end in the capture of that character by the B’s.

  59. What Rough Beast
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:14 am | Permalink

    Morgan King,

    I hope they incude it. It may look like a serious WTF thing for non-readers at first, but the moment it makes sense later will make the Red Wedding even more shocking. I´m really looking foreward to the House of the Undying with all its omens and general creepiness.

  60. MRR
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    userj:
    Ugh the Dany summaries just sound so blaaahhhh this season.I’m hoping they are being purposefully vague to avoid spoilers.

    And I’m still worried form the previews and these recaps they are going with some caricature version who yells about “what’s hers” all the time and doens’t listen to anyone (“ignores Jorah’s advice?” what the f???Dany always listens to his advice, then decides what to do with it, and any other information, in mind.The fact that what she decides to do is not always what he advises does not mean she ignores his advice – *SIGH*.

    If you’ve actually read aCoK – or ANY of the books – this out of character.

    #$*@$)(!@&$)!@(*$!@

    Okay ending the rant.So far the Dany scenes have been fine (all 2 minutes of them) and last season was fucking epic.So I should try not to worry.

    Frankly, the Daenerys plotline from ACoK is quite “blaaahhhh” until the House of the Undying – and if you think a mention of that in the previews is “blaaahhhh” then I’m not sure what to tell you.

    Also, when it’s said that someone “ignored” advice it’s not meant literally. It’s a common vernacular way of saying that advice was not heeded – it doesn’t imply that it was never heard. This “advice” is probably referring to how she deals with Strong Belwas and “Artsan Whitebeard”.

  61. Conor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:47 am | Permalink

    userj:
    Ugh the Dany summaries just sound so blaaahhhh this season.I’m hoping they are being purposefully vague to avoid spoilers.

    And I’m still worried form the previews and these recaps they are going with some caricature version who yells about “what’s hers” all the time and doens’t listen to anyone (“ignores Jorah’s advice?” what the f???Dany always listens to his advice, then decides what to do with it, and any other information, in mind.The fact that what she decides to do is not always what he advises does not mean she ignores his advice – *SIGH*.

    If you’ve actually read aCoK – or ANY of the books – this out of character.

    #$*@$)(!@&$)!@(*$!@

    Okay ending the rant.So far the Dany scenes have been fine (all 2 minutes of them) and last season was fucking epic.So I should try not to worry.

    Actually, you need to re-read.
    Jorah advises her not to go to the House of the the Undying, but she ignores him.
    It’s as simple as that, no need to get worked up about it.

  62. Adam Austin
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 4:01 am | Permalink

    OOOOHHHH…. :oD

    Jaime mets a Relative???

    I’m going to get “LamBastard” for this thought but I’m really longing for “Jeyne” to be “Joy” The bastard daughter of Gerion Lannister!

    I think George would be quite happy with the change. :o)

  63. oierem
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 4:07 am | Permalink

    I hope this will put the rumours about the Sack of Winterfel being in S3 to rest! Obviously, it follows the book very closely, taking Winterfel in E6, going after the kids in E7, Yara visiting him in E8 and the Sack happening in E10! It’s the only logical way to portray Theon’s great arc this season. (And remember, Reek was supposed to be in Winterfel BEFORE Theon’s attack, so he’s definitely not here). The Reeds will appear in S3, I guess.
    About Jon, nothing from ASOS will be part of this Season, I think. He goes with Qhorin in E6, meets Ygritte in E7… Again, closely following the book, his arc will finish with him joining the Wildlings.

  64. Conor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 4:39 am | Permalink

    I noticed Sophie Turner had grown quite a bit in ep3 but i didn’t think it was this much.
    She’s almost as tall as the Hound!!

    http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2rckda1Ro1qze1ryo1_500.jpg

    Also, can’t wait for this scene.

  65. Mirri Maz
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 4:41 am | Permalink

    They can do the sack without Reek if he’s already lord of the dreadfort (they skip his stay in Winterfell) and he just sends his men instead of coming himself and this way they won’t have to cast him until season 4 or 5 because he has nothing to do after the sack.

    i would love if they ended with the others attacking Craster’s keep, it would make sense since they can just get rid of the set afterwards and show some other action this season.

  66. Max
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:04 am | Permalink

    Where can I read the summaries of episode 4 and 5 please ?

  67. Adam Austin
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:08 am | Permalink

    Max,

    Go to “Features”- “Episode Guide” at the top of this page Max :o)

  68. Lana
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:15 am | Permalink

    John W,

    LOL! So true. ; )

  69. Louisa
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:18 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Louisa,

    No, he’s not in season 2. Pyp was left at the Wall in A Clash of Kings, and wasn’t on the ranging beyond the Wall. So no Altin in S2.

    Gotcha! Thanks.

  70. Michael Harper
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:23 am | Permalink

    Conor,

    Jesus Christ! She just be about six foot…or at least almost six foot!

    Where did you find that picture anyway?

  71. ryra
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:23 am | Permalink

    Conor: I noticed Sophie Turner had grown quite a bit in ep3 but i didn’t think it was this much.She’s almost as tall as the Hound!!http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2rckda1Ro1qze1ryo1_500.jpgAlso, can’t wait for this scene.

    I guess she seems to be almost as tall as the Hound because he’s standing on a lower step than her..anyway, yes she definitely had grown a lot!

    p.s. Have anyone posted those videos before? they’re pretty good :)
    Sansa audition
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ0aORjG6Pw&feature=related

    Hound audition
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIWX2fPx-5k&feature=relmfu

  72. John
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:33 am | Permalink

    Jason,

    I don’t get why they would need to hide Reek. It’s not THAT big of a shock. I mean, they’re basically willing to divulge everything else that happens in Theon’s plot. Why hide that? And it’s not much of a spoiler if all the readers already know about it. I hate to break it to everyone, but Reek isn’t happening this season. Or if he is, we’ll hear about the casting very soon. And honestly, I’m fine with that. I’d be OK with the Bolton’s getting cut entirely to be honest. I’d rather have the Reeds or the Blackfish. It already looks like that might be happening with Roose Bolton. Thronecast had interviews with Maisie Williams and Charles Dance, in which they announced that they’re working together this season, which is an indication that Arya may be a serving girl for Tywin instead of Roose (yes, I’m aware that they’d have to figure out a way to get Tywin out of Harrenhal before Arya frees the Northmen–I don’t think it will be a problem). I don’t understand the infatuation with Ramsay to be honest. I can’t wait until Stannis takes him out in The Winds of Winter (no, I don’t think he’s dead).

  73. John
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    Morgan King: I think the real question is whether or not Dany’s vision in the House of the Undying will feature the RW premonition with the wolf-headed king – I couldn’t believe how many hints there are about it in CoK. Theon dreams of it, too.

    It’s not even just that. When Stannis threw those leeches into the fire, and especially when Balon Greyjoy subsequently fell off that bridge, I knew Robb was in trouble. I’m always amazed at how many people were shocked by the RW. I saw it coming a mile away. Of course, after that happened, I also knew that Joffrey wasn’t long for the world. I thoroughly enjoyed the chapters detailing his demise.

  74. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    John:
    Jason,

    I don’t get why they would need to hide Reek. It’s not THAT big of a shock. I mean, they’re basically willing to divulge everything else that happens in Theon’s plot. Why hide that? And it’s not much of a spoiler if all the readers already know about it. I hate to break it to everyone, but Reek isn’t happening this season. Or if he is, we’ll hear about the casting very soon. And honestly, I’m fine with that. I’d be OK with the Bolton’s getting cut entirely to be honest. I’d rather have the Reeds or the Blackfish. It already looks like that might be happening with Roose Bolton. Thronecast had interviews with Maisie Williams and Charles Dance, in which they announced that they’re working together this season, which is an indication that Arya may be a serving girl for Tywin instead of Roose (yes, I’m aware that they’d have to figure out a way to get Tywin out of Harrenhal before Arya frees the Northmen–I don’t think it will be a problem). I don’t understand the infatuation with Ramsay to be honest. I can’t wait until Stannis takes him out in The Winds of Winter (no, I don’t think he’s dead).

    You are not a true fan to the book if you say that . How would you like for your favorite moment or character to be cut from the show . Would you like that ?

  75. ThePinkDragon
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 6:33 am | Permalink

    About the House of the Undying:

    Wouldn’t they have cast an Elia and a Rhaegar for a “song of ice and fire” line, or am I remembering wrong? I suppose they could be played by existing actors to underscore a point (I know a few of you wanted Lloyd to play Rhaegar too) but I think we’d have heard about it by now.

  76. Jaime Lannister
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    Reek is essential because he’s a god damn main antagonist in Dance. He’s seeded in Clash with the surprise twist at the end, adding a key layer of menace and mystery to Robb’s campaign and the agenda of House Bolton as a whole. It’s the poetry of the situation — Winterfell trades hands from one traitor to another, FAR worse in every way. I can’t believe they’d leave him out; he’s a complete monster that gives Joffrey a run for his money, and his diabolical rise to power at the end is as gripping as it is shocking.

    Still. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out without Reek the First and Reek the Second.

    Dave and Dan still need a slap from Tyrion for leaving Reek out of S2, though. Your moss-eyed prophetic sues are the ones who should be pushed back a bit.

  77. DigDoug
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    BLACKWATER!
    Can’t wait. Damn Calendar. If ever I could vote for a month of Sundays this would be the time.

  78. Zed
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Unrelated, but has anyone seen David and Dan Thronecast interview?

  79. Mormegil
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Zed: Unrelated, but has anyone seen David and Dan Thronecast interview?

    Posted here with all the other Thronecast interviews
    http://winteriscoming.net/2012/04/a-storm-of-interviews/#more-16486

  80. Lord Willum
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    re HotU

    I might be in the minority but was kind of hoping they wouldn’t show this sequence in the series. While a few people have commented on the clear foreshadowing, there’s a large difference between describing something relatively cryptically on the page and actually showing it in clear visuals on the screen

    Maybe my mind’s not so sharp, but when reading, I knew what some of it meant or suggested, but for an equal amount kind of thought ‘I know this is meaningful, just not sure how yet’

    Hopefully they’ll strike this right balance with what they do show, and to be fair, D & D have earned my trust that they will!

  81. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet, but i noticed last night that they added a new feature ON Demand – a really excellent 7 minute feature on “the Religions” where they explain the four religions we’ve encountered so far-The Seven, The Old Gods, The Drowned God and The Lord Of Light. GRRM does a lot of the commentary himself, and there are a few scenes from upcoming episodes we haven’t seen yet. One is clearly of Arya starting her prayers!

    http://youtu.be/DIe0Q3PgcOw

  82. BGAP
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Wonder how many ‘prophetic visions’ David and Dan will include in the House of the Undying?

    And for the visions that haven’t happened even through “Dance with Dragons,” wonder if they talked with Martin to get clarification. IMHO, the more the better. Make this scene something show (and book) fans will go back to again and again as the story unfolds.

  83. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    eh, I remember seeing the anatomy of a scene post but missed it including the religion one…sorry.

  84. Conor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Regarding the HotU.

    Personally I’d be happy with one or two flashes (Blue Flower on Ice wall & “His is the song of ice and fire” scene) but make it obvious that Dany is seeing much more than what we see on screen.

    Then have her recalling what she has seen throughout her later scenes in the series, as she travels or as she comes upon things/people that remind her of what she has seen. It would keep the memory fresh throughout the series and introduce us to her visions while keeping her future scenes intact.

  85. Sam DeGree
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Lord Willum: I might be in the minority but was kind of hoping they wouldn’t show this sequence in the series. While a few people have commented on the clear foreshadowing, there’s a large difference between describing something relatively cryptically on the page and actually showing it in clear visuals on the screen

    One way to handle this would be to show the foreshadowing visions, but in among a lot of other visual “muddle”–hallucinogenic fluff or other vague, non-prophetic images. The camera could focus on the scenesof rhaegar, the blue flower in the ice, etc., and only show the more spoilery images (Robb with wolfshead) in the periphery of each shot, or as the camera is moving. This way, viewers would be unlikely to really register the foreshadowing images, but when the future events happen, they can look back and appreciate the clues, like many book readers did.

  86. BGAP
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Conor:
    Regarding the HotU.

    Personally I’d be happy with one or two flashes (Blue Flower on Ice wall & “His is the song of ice and fire” scene) but make it obvious that Dany is seeing much more than what we see on screen.

    Then have her recalling what she has seen throughout her later scenes in the series, as she travels or as she comes upon things/people that remind her of what she has seen. It would keep the memory fresh throughout the series and introduce us to her visions while keeping her future scenes intact.

    While I like that idea, the show has not used flashbacks at all, even for important story points like the killing of the mad king.

  87. mikeintexas
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    BGAP,

    remember that little blip we saw of Brandon on the floor in front of the Mad King in an early trailer last year? Wonder if they saved that scene for HOTU.

  88. Lars
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    I think the ‘house of the undying’ scenes will be very vague. They are going to amplify the creep factor – and anyone hoping for clear visions is likely to be very disappointed.

  89. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    It’s friday, so no daily raven this week?

  90. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m a little anxious to see the House of the Undying. That’s a scene, much like the shadow baby, that could go south in a hurry if it’s not done right. But if Bran’s wolf dreams are any indication, I think they’ll be able to pull it off. Can’t wait to see it. It was one of my favorite chapters from the books (and I’ve read every single word in every single book so far, so I’m not talking out of my ass here).

  91. userj
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Conor,

    She does not ignore it.

    She takes t into consideration, and decides not to follow it.

    Very different.

  92. userj
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    MRR,

    I agree, My hope given comments by the actors involved is that they would be adding quite a bit of dany stuff, this makes it seem just like in the books nothing happens in quarth. But again since its new stuff they may be being purposefully vague.

    Anyway I honestly don’t care what they have her do, as long as 1. There’s a significant amount of screen time and 2. Everyone is in character. And it’s the latter I’m more concerned about.

  93. dizzy_34
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle: especially in the company of posts from people/usernames that any WiC reader/lurker can recognise given enough time!

    Ha! I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing but welcome to the fray.

  94. BGAP
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    mikeintexas:
    BGAP,

    remember that little blip we saw of Brandon on the floor in front of the Mad King in an early trailer last year?Wonder if they saved that scene for HOTU.

    I’d forgotten about that. Love to see it included . Also like the idea of having the real visions de-emphasized with camera movements. Also agree with how “shadow baby” coming up in the next episode will suggest how they will do H of U.

    At the risk of offering a cheesy comparison, this reminds me of the dream episode “Restless” at the end of season 4 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and how there were a number of hints/visions of what was coming up in future seasons.

  95. Eleanor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    I had been convinced they’ d leave out House of the Undying! Sweet!

  96. The Kingslayer
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    You had me at House of Undying.

  97. Mimsy
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Is Davos’ reward becoming the Hand to Stannis?

  98. Alan
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Lars:
    I think the ‘house of the undying’ scenes will be very vague. They are going to amplify the creep factor – and anyone hoping for clear visions is likely to be very disappointed.

    Agree with you and others. Flashes of creepy imagery. Moving steadicam, slamming doors, quick movement, random scary stuff.

    I also think it’s pretty easy to make the King-with-Wolfshead not all that spoilery. I mean, if you don’t put blood and the such around it, couldn’t it be viewed as metaphorical for Robb? If I just saw a crowned wolf in a dreamlike state, I’d think of it as meaning a Stark as King, not a Stark King decapitated and having a real wolf head sewn on.

    All in all, I’m estatic The House of the Undying is in and the book geek in me really wants to see Rhaegar’s line “…his is the song of Ice and Fire.”.

    That said, I get that between not wanting to possibly cast someone (if we’re ever to get more flashbacks) or even have speaking during the House of the Undying until the end, where I imagine a lot o hazy whispering — well, we could have “Hot Pie!” like cutting here.

  99. The Kingslayer
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Any chance they might reward the fans with a little Rhaeger in the House Of Undying ?

  100. Alan
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Lord Willum:
    re HotU

    I might be in the minority but was kind of hoping they wouldn’t show this sequence in the series. While a few people have commented on the clear foreshadowing, there’s a large difference between describing something relatively cryptically on the page and actually showing it in clear visuals on the screen

    Maybe my mind’s not so sharp, but when reading, I knew what some of it meant or suggested, but for an equal amount kind of thought ‘I know this is meaningful, just not sure how yet’

    Hopefully they’ll strike this right balance with what they do show, and to be fair, D & D have earned my trust that they will!

    I think this is a very valid point, and it may be a reason for keeping certain images out of the HOTU.

    For an example of how it’s just really hard to obfuscate visually versus text, think about the scene in the skull room — on tv, it’s obvious its Illyrio and Varys — and well as the upcoming introduction of Arstan, which will likely not try to deceive the audience, either.

  101. Spliced
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    “…and Davos is offered a reward.”

    I agree with Mimsy that Davos’s reward will be becoming the Hand to Stannis.

    That being said, the preview language is pretty sneaky because his actual reward comes later, in Episode 20, when “four of Ser Davos’s elder sons Dale, Allard, Matthos and Maric were lost, and he himself nearly died.” Wiki.

  102. Sam DeGree
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Mimsy:
    Is Davos’ reward becoming the Hand to Stannis?

    A possibility, but not very likely in my opinion. In the books, this occurs about halfway through ASoS and it only occurs after Davos has been imprisoned for plotting to kill Mel. Moving this up would take away the great moment where Stannis begins the conversation by reminding that the penalty for treason is death, but ends by raising him to be the Hand. More likely, I think the reward will be the honor of leading the attack on King’s Landing, or commanding the vanguard (if there is a “vanguard” in naval formations) or something similar.

  103. Carne
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Conor,

    Where did you get that picture?

  104. Conor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    I hope Davos’s reward is not becoming Hand because that is too soon and takes away the awesome scene where it comes out of nowhere when things are looking bad for him.

  105. purplejilly
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    ThePinkDragon,
    OMG I will just flip out and die if they snuck Harry Lloyd back as Rhaegar and he is in the House of the Undying.. I will be so happy….

  106. Noldorimbor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    BGAP
    At the risk of offering a cheesy comparison, this reminds me ofthe dream episode “Restless” at the end of season 4 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and how there were a number of hints/visions of what was coming up in future seasons.

    Great comparision to be honest, when ı was reading the books, HoU part definetely reminded me Restless episode of Buffy “be back before Dawn” or “Little Miss Muffin counting down from 7-3-0″ etc ..

    I would LOVE it if they talked to George and got some hints that are even beyond the scope of ADWD to throw the book readers a bone, something that isnt in the book Undying scene foreshadowing something that will happen in final two books.

  107. Long Ball Larry
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Have to disagree there…I want to experience Martin’s reveals for the first time on the page, and on the page alone. The show’s fun, but I’d be annoyed by spoilers.

  108. Dee
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    How the show will handle THoU is one of the main questions I’m looking forward to having answered this season. However they choose do it, I’m sure it’ll result in an entertaining discussion thread. :)

    We haven’t heard anything about a Rhaegar casting, as far as I know, and if they didn’t do it for THoU, then there’s no reason to believe they’ll do it in the future. But just in case they ever do, I would like to put on the record my actor nominations for the part:

    Rupert Penry-Jones in the role, if they go with a mature Rhaegar.

    Bradley James for a young Rhaegar.

  109. BGAP
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Long Ball Larry:
    Have to disagree there…I want to experience Martin’s reveals for the first time on the page, and on the page alone.The show’s fun, but I’d be annoyed by spoilers.

    I doubt they would include anything new, but if so, I would want any visions for events after DwD to be incredibly vague, so that it would not spoil, and would only makes sense once the story plays out in Season 7 or 8. That, to me, would be great for ongoing speculation and also would show incredible confidence for the series continuing that long.

  110. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    BGAP,

    Restless IS NOT a cheesy comparison. Buffy like The Wire is incredible television. It’s a fitting comparison.

    And yes I put Buffy and The Wire on the same level. Flame Away!

  111. mikeintexas
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    purplejilly:
    OMG I will just flip out and die if they snuck Harry Lloyd back as Rhaegar and he is in the House of the Undying.. I will be so happy…

    If they ever used flashbacks you can expect no-names. The show runners are not going to bust the budget hiring big names to one-off, one or two liner appearance.

  112. BGAP
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    BGAP,

    Restless IS NOT a cheesy comparison. Buffy like The Wire is incredible television. It’s a fitting comparison.

    And yes I put Buffy and The Wire on the same level. Flame Away!

    I agree. And I’m not a 20-something female, but a 40-something male. I only watched it recently to see if it would be appropriate for my daughters (maybe in a few years, because of all the sexual content) and I ended up getting hooked. Watched the entire series over a couple of months.

  113. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink
  114. BGAP
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets:
    The Lannister’s during happier times:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    Too perfect. I bet GRRM never imagined anyone would figure out that some obscure video from the 80′s was the real origin of the Lannister characters.

  115. Grimnir
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Even Harys Swyft is dancing, wearing a chicken mask :D

  116. ryra
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Carne: Conor, Where did you get that picture?

    I guess it’s from here http://wicnet.tumblr.com/ ;)

  117. Mimsy
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    I totally forgot about the bucket and the rat. O_O

    Holy crap!

    Is it wrong to be totally in love with the back shot of The Tickler’s hair??

  118. Lala
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    I also can’t wait for the HoD!!!! I just remembered what’s included in all that, and I’m just thrilled… Things I will be thrilled if I see, and broken-hearted (and angry, probably) if I dont:

    - Rhaegar “his is the song of ice and fire”
    - Blue flower growing from the wall
    - A feast with a dead man with a wolf’s head

  119. ThePinkDragon
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Lala,

    I don’t think we’ll get the first one, but the last two, probably.

    We really, really, really need some hints for the non-bookies towards Jon’s parentage and this would be a good time to insert some, IMO.

    Yes, yes, I know that some of the smarty-pantses have already figured it out (how, I don’t know) but we need a blatantly obvious, in-your-face kind-of hint.

  120. JonSnow
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    userj:
    Ugh the Dany summaries just sound so blaaahhhh this season.I’m hoping they are being purposefully vague to avoid spoilers.

    And I’m still worried form the previews and these recaps they are going with some caricature version who yells about “what’s hers” all the time and doens’t listen to anyone (“ignores Jorah’s advice?” what the f???Dany always listens to his advice, then decides what to do with it, and any other information, in mind.The fact that what she decides to do is not always what he advises does not mean she ignores his advice – *SIGH*.

    If you’ve actually read aCoK – or ANY of the books – this out of character.

    #$*@$)(!@&$)!@(*$!@

    Okay ending the rant.So far the Dany scenes have been fine (all 2 minutes of them) and last season was fucking epic.So I should try not to worry.

    I think you need to reread Clash of Kings ;]. Dany definitely ignores Jorah’s advice in one key epic scene. She chooses to go to the House of the Undying

  121. JonSnow
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    I really hope we get to see Rhaegar in the House of the Undying. That would be so epic!

  122. JonSnow
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Anyone notice the white cloak on the Hound ! Looks like some1 is getting a promotion soon ;]. http://wicnet.tumblr.com/

  123. Lala
    Posted April 20, 2012 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    ThePinkDragon,

    I just don’t believe that non-readers have figured it out on their own… There was probably a mole who read the books, pretended he didn’t, and suggested the theory… I agree that we need at least some hint at J’s parentage, this is the biggest thing ever discussed from the books, but we were burnt once before when Ned was in the dungeons and didn’t want to write the letter nor did he have flashbacks to the ToJ… :/ Meh. We still have the books.

  124. Ser Raybat
    Posted April 21, 2012 at 1:26 am | Permalink

    Dany finally takes what is hers… with large fries and a Coke!

  125. userj
    Posted April 21, 2012 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    JonSnow,

    See above, depends on your definition of ignores.

    Most readers who say dany ignores advice imply that she doesn’t even listen and just does what she wants thoughtlessly. It’s clear from the text since we can see what she is thinking that she weighs his advice with the current situation and then makes her choice.

    She wouldn’t be a very good queen if she blindly did everything he advises without thought (or indeed if she “ignored” advice).


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