Episode 15 – The Ghost of Harrenhal – Open Chat
By Winter Is Coming on in Recap.

The fifth episode of season two airs tonight. Talk about what you are anticipating most tonight and use this thread to give your reactions to the episode as it airs. I will be back with my recap after the episode concludes. Here are the episode details:


Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Director: David Petrarca
Runtime: 57 min

Synopsis: The end of the Baratheon rivalry drives Catelyn to flee and Littlefinger to act. At King’s Landing, Tyrion’s source alerts him to Joffrey’s flawed defense plan and a mysterious secret weapon. Theon sails to the Stony Shore to prove he’s worthy to be called Ironborn. In Harrenhal, Arya receives a promise from Jaqen H’ghar, one of three prisoners she saved from the Gold Cloaks. The Night’s Watch arrive at the Fist of the First Men, an ancient fortress where they hope to stem the advance of the wildling army.


159 Comments

  1. JonathanL
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    There’s nothing I don’t like about that plot preview.

  2. LionOfLannister
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Looking good!

  3. Macha
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    What, no ‘Daenerys swears to take back what is hers’? Bummer. ;)

  4. Ismael Isak
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    I am sure Renly’s death is going to be so freaking epic, i just hope they make it the beginning of the episode I am so freaking excited to see Qhorin Halfhand

  5. Conor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    So excited for the “End of the Baratheon Rivalry” :)

  6. Arthur
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Wow… A whole 57mins.

    That by itself is good news!

    I’m looking forward to everything except Ros and fart jokes. =]

  7. Ricardo Baptista
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Jaqen, shiny green stuff, and the Fist! Today is a good day.

  8. Hi-Fi
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if this is the episode where we first see Quaithe. I’m curious as to how she’ll be presented.

  9. NewJeffCT
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Lots of big stuff happening tonight – can’t wait to see how it plays out on the TV.

  10. Corn
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait to see what happens to shadow baby. The preview clips show Brienne swinging some serious sword and I look forward to that too. Arya’s interaction with Jaqen will be epic. Also her interaction with Tywin, which is hinted at in the preview clips, that will be new material and what will she be called now? Sweet anticipation!

  11. Angel
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Looking good! I seriously hope Pollliver and the Tickler aren’t killed. It would be way too soon

  12. Juan
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Not liking the whole ‘Baratheon rivalry drives Littlefinger to act.’ What exactly is he supposed to be doing?

    This could very well be the best episode yet. It is the longest and we get to see Qarth, Wildfire, Renly’s Death, Fist of the First Men (Iceland and Qhorin Halfhand) and Jaqen’s ‘murders’.

    Oh, and Theon too!!! Favorite storyline in the show, closely tied with Tyrion’s. Theon’s theme in the soundtrack brings his scenes to a whole new level.

  13. daprosinik
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    The end of the Baratheon rivalry

    Sounds to me like a spoiler, we already know Melisandre spawned a dangerous shadow baby. There is only one way that rivalry could end…

  14. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Juan,

    Umm he begins brokering a deal with the Tyrells….just like he does in the books?

  15. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Looks like it’s going to be a great episode. I think Pyat Pree looks interesting, but of course, I can’t wait to see what comes of the Shadowborn, and Jaqen, and Theon, etc..

    Also, I’m wondering if we’re going to see any Dagmar Cleftjaw in this one? The Ironborn scenes should be cool regardless, but it seems like it’s about time for the Cleftjaw to make an appearance.

    And I almost forgot… HALFHAND! Nuff said.

  16. Juan
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    You’re right. I was just hoping they don’t deviate too much from the books and make act in some different way. I’m not a critic from the way they’ve adapated the source material, I love most of it so far, but I feel that LF’s character has been the most changed, for the worse.

  17. Bgap
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Will the episode begin or end with Renly’s death?

  18. J
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    I think I remember reading the actor for Cleftjaw saying this was his first episode, but I could be wrong!

  19. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Juan,

    I’m still on the fence with our man Baelish. I wonder if we will see NCW in this episode?

  20. Corn
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Bgap:
    Will the episode begin or end with Renly’s death?

    Probably begin with that, since it sets many other actions in motion.

  21. Juan
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Permalink
  22. J
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    If the description starts with “the end of the Baratheon rivalry”, then I have to think it will happen very early in the episode.

  23. KaMrAnAhMeD
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    I think the episode shuld straight away begin with Renly’s death….. or maybe after 1-3 mins in the episode

  24. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    In other news “Hercules” at AICN is bullshitting with his spoilers assuring us that the secret weapon that kills Renly is not the shadow baby.

    Perhaps the sword the shadow warrior uses to carry out the deed?

  25. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Juan,

    Nicolaj Coster Waldau. And I just read that he is not in the episode.

  26. Oi!
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Yeah the “secret weapon” in the EP synopsis provided by HBO is wildfire and has nothing to do with king Peachless.

  27. J
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I think he’s being intentionally misleading. The “secret weapon” mentioned in the synopsis is found by TYRION and is clearly referring to wildfire. I don’t see why it would have anything to do with Mel/shadowbaby.

  28. Jason
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    If Reek is casted, he should appear in this episode, as in next ep, Theon will take Winterfell

  29. JamesL
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    It happens at the beginning of the episode.

    “When the show airs at 9 p.m. Sunday, expect another breathtaking appearance from the smoky creature in the first five minutes.”
    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120428/ENT10/204280335#ixzz1tSQXEZVr

    I was worried that it would happen off screen since they didn’t use it as the ending for episode 4.

  30. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    In other news “Hercules” at AICN is bullshitting with his spoilers assuring us that the secret weapon that kills Renly is not the shadow baby.

    Perhaps the sword the shadow warrior uses to carry out the deed?

    Wtf is AICN ? You keep mentioning this shitty website that I have not heard of in my life .

  31. JamesL
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Jason,

    He wasn’t cast.

  32. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Aint It Cool News. It’s one of the first real Movie Geek websites, it’s been around for almost twenty years.

    Sorry. Just brought up something for the open chat, they were talking about it last week as well.

    Sheesh.

  33. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    J,

    Ah yes, of course. I figured he was misleading us, missed that part though heh-heh.

  34. scott glennon
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Tonight I carry the Stark banner for I am…………a “Bannerman!”

  35. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Juan:
    Not liking the whole ‘Baratheon rivalry drives Littlefinger to act.’ What exactly is he supposed to be doing?

    I think that’s rather obvious: blaming Catelyn Stark for Renly’s death, swearing she is in league with the man Eddard died trying to make king – Stannis. Baelish then offers to broker an alliance of marriage with Joffrey to the Tyrells to thwart Stannis and the Starks. That offer will bear fruit in episode 9.

  36. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Aint It Cool News. It’s one of the first real Movie Geek websites, it’s been around for almost twenty years.

    Sorry. Just brought up something for the open chat, they were talking about it last week as well.

    Sheesh.

    Sorry, didn’t mean to offend you . I was just annoyed at the so called spoilers about the episode .

  37. ryra
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    I’m exited for Arya receiving the promise from Jaken, in episode 4 she mentioned only 6 people but I suppose she’ll have to add some more names to her list , I guess it could be the Tickler, Amory Lorch and Weese perhsps? (actually I don’t know if the last is supposed to be in the show or they decided to cut him)

  38. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    We’re cool. Here’s a peace offering.

    instead of….this.

  39. Dee
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I think he means the secret weapon found by Tyrion as mentioned in the synopsis, i.e., wild fire

  40. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Dee,

    I’ve come to realize that. Thank you. :-)

  41. Mike Snow
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    I hope they do Renly’s death well, show Loras and his major freak out and killing Renly’s guards as well as give Brienne her moment, as seen from the preview.

  42. Mike Chair
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Mysterious secret weapon. Wildfire yes, but also, The Chain! ACoK: Tyrion III.

  43. Azus
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Looking forward to the “end of the Baratheon rivalry”, seeing the Shadow onscreen again, and possibly Roy Dotrice’s portrayal as Pyromancer Hallyne in his scene with Tyrion.

  44. Jason
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    You sound like you know it for sure… but any thing could happen and they have good reason to keep the Reek casting from public.

    Of course I agree the chance is slim.

  45. Suzaku
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Looking forward to another glimpse of the Shade, but for me, this episode is all about Jaqen. Best part of A Clash of Kings, in my opinion.

  46. TheDearHunter
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    All I hope for is that they don’t show Peter’s deal with the tyrells because the fact that they seemed to come out of nowhere during the Blackwater was the best part. They have time to explain the whole thing in episode ten but I feel that if people know it’s coming, it could ruin the surprise.

  47. Suzaku
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Jason:
    JamesL,

    You sound like you know it for sure… but any thing could happen and they have good reason to keep the Reek casting from public.

    Of course I agree the chance is slim.

    At this point I think it’s pretty safe to assume that the introductions of Reek, the Reeds, the Walders, Hoat, etc., have been pushed into Season 3, with necessary alterations to the plot in order make it work.

    Specifically, Reek and Theon will almost certainly have their storyline altered, elaborated and extended through season 3, in order to prevent them from going MIA for two seasons, which is what would happen if they followed the books to a T.

  48. Magnus
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    TheDearHunter,

    This was explained midway in the book though. Littlefinger was sent out for that very purpose.

  49. TheDearHunter
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Magnus,

    Maybe I missed that part in the book but I felt it wasn’t completely obvious. Well everything else should be great in tonight’s episode.

  50. Corn
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Suzaku:
    Looking forward to another glimpse of the Shade, but for me, this episode is all about Jaqen. Best part of A Clash of Kings, in my opinion.

    I am 100% with you. Something very cool about Jaqen, and the casting was perfect.

  51. sunspear
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    I’m wondering when they are going to show Sansa’s meeting with Ser Dontos.

  52. Dee
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    My expectations are low for this episode, which is a good thing, I think, as it means the show won’t have to do much to impress me tonight.

  53. Jason
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Suzaku,

    According to the summary for the following episodes, I think it is obvious Asha visits Theon in episode 8. If sack of Winterfell doesn’t happen, what would Theon do for the next two episodes? Ending with Theon saying bye to Asha would be a pretty lame ending for his plot line this season. So I don’t think Theon’s story would be changed too much.

    For Reek, it’s possible that they combine Roose and Reek. And that’s a lot of change…e.g. who holds Harrenhall after Tywin and why does Arya escape. How does Roose go back to north since the ironborn holds the neck…

    As for the actor having nothing to do for two seasons…That’s because we don’t have a POV in the north in the book. It’s entirely possible, and easy to have Theon in the story just like what they do with Robb

  54. the goat
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Sliced peaches, anyone?

    Too soon?

  55. Corn
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    the goat:
    Sliced peaches, anyone?

    Too soon?

    Are they in heavy syrup?

  56. Blackfish
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait, i’m looking foward to at least 10 minutes of screen time with Ros, characters eating fruits EXCEPT peaches, scene with Hot Pie NOT screaming “hot pie”, lots of random fart jokes and nudity, and all the insignificant little details that D&D can’t fit into a 57 min episode. I mean how hard can it be to fit 1000+ pages of a novel with a cast of hundreds into a 50 minute-ish episode??????

    I truly dont know if I should feel sorry for or laugh at all the book purists, whiners, and trolls.

  57. Deborah
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    My husband and I have an ongoing issue. He is a non-reader so when things happen that I have been expecting for weeks he sometimes does not react as I expect him to. He actually shrugged of Jamie pushing Bran out the window. If this episode doesnt get him excited a divorce may be in our future. Just kidding but I think tonight is the night that everything changes and leads to a glorious final 5 eps.

  58. the goat
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Corn: Are they in heavy syrup?

    They are flavored with Brienne’s tears

  59. KaMrAnAhMeD
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    honestly I’m all excited for 5th episode, 7th episode with respect to Jaime and I’m guessing maybe in same 7th episode or might the 8th episode one of the dragons will burn the house of the undying. I am all excited to see the dragons in play this season. Earlier I was waiting for them to hatch all throughout the 1st season.

    I’m also waiting for the Tyrion’s deal of marriage between Joffery and Margery… at the same time I just hope they don’t go too far and NOT end the season with Joffery’s death cause I want that moment to be hugely epic. I’m sure everybody as fans of the books as well as the series, most of them want Joffery’s death which shuld only come in season 3

  60. Corn
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    the goat: They are flavored with Brienne’s tears

    In that cathe I thall decline the offer. Tho thorry.

  61. JamesL
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    I’ve been wondering when he was going to make an appearance again. The audience probably already forgot who he is. The actor who plays Dontos has a twitter and he said he had a part in the scene where Joffrey has Sansa beaten and stripped in the court. You can actually see him in a couple of the shots but apparently that scene was edited down to be shorter. I’m assuming they toned down Sansas beating because of the scene with Joffrey and the whores that followed it.

  62. KaMrAnAhMeD
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Ser Eld,

    so so sorry…. it’s just i’m all pumped up with excitement

  63. Critical Geek
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    The thing about the fart jokes is, they are every bit as “but that’s the ugly truth about what it was like at the time” as the sex and violence. Apparently a high tolerance for medieval sex and violence indicates low tolerance of medieval humor.

  64. Macha
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Deborah,

    Ha, I have the same issue with mine, not to mention he can’t remember anyone’s name. :)
    We were actually talking about the shadow scene the other day, and we went at it for about 20 minutes, and at the end I found myself wondering out loud if it’ll be shown to have Stannis’ features, and he goes: “Yeah…who’s Stannis?” *facepalm*

  65. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish,

    hey, at least ghost isnt barking anymore :)

  66. Andrew
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    I’m really excited for this episode. All the Jaqen stuff has been one of the things i’ve been most looking forward to this season. I’m not gonna lie though, if he doesn’t keep the “A man…A girl…” etc. way of speaking, I will be a little dissapointed. Not enough to hate the episode or anything, but I’ll have a minor sad for a few seconds. I’m also really interested to see the Arya/Tywin scenes, and how they play out.

    It’ll also be nice finally seeing the Wildfire and the Pyromancers guild! Maybe they’ll even include Tyrion ordering the citys smiths to start working on the chain?

  67. PatD
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    I am so freaking excited to see Qhorin Halfhand

    I have a feeling his epic moment with Jon will end this episode. That was one of the book’s highlights, afaic. Also… cannot wait for more Jaqen.

    Oh man. The season is half over :(

  68. KaMrAnAhMeD
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Andrew: I’m also really interested to see the Arya/Tywin scenes, and how they play out.

    thats actually the best scene according to Charles Dance… if u remember his interview posted some days back. this episode will be another major turning point in the series.

  69. Andrew
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    KaMrAnAhMeD,

    Yeah, I remember him saying how much he adored working with Maise. And Tywin, while not one of my favourite characters, is deffinitely one of the most interesting characters, and it’s about time we got a bit of his backstory. I hope he mentions The Reynes and Tarbecks. Maybe even talk a bit about his time with Aerys or the sack of Kings Landing.

    He may not, as it would be a bit weird for him to indulge the curiosity of a cupbearer like that, but still, we may get some of it.

  70. Mormegil
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    PatD: I have a feeling his epic moment with Jon will end this episode. That was one of the book’s highlights, afaic. Also… cannot wait for more Jaqen.Oh man. The season is half over :(

    That’s a few episodes off yet.

  71. Richard
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Deborah:
    My husband and I have an ongoing issue.He is a non-reader so when things happen that I have been expecting for weeks he sometimes does not react as I expect him to.He actually shrugged of Jamie pushing Bran out the window.If this episode doesnt get him excited a divorce may be in our future.

    Funny I finally got my wife to watch GoT (I’m a non-book reader, and watched it all a 2nd time with her) and she didn’t react to Ned’s execution at all, and just said his death needed to happened in order for the plot to progress and not stagnant, like it was a no-brainer from a writing stand point. Although the shadow child from last week made both of us flip out. We didn’t see that one coming.

  72. the goat
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Corn,

    No worrieth

  73. Mark
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Anybody else think that since they haven’t named any other Kingsguard members, they might have Ser Meryn attempy to kill tyrion at blackwater

  74. Arthur
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    I watch Game of Thrones with my whole family on the huge 80″ HD with a sound system Sorround sound. After the recap when that GoTs intro music starts its as exciting as Monday Night Football in my house.

    My father and I are the only ones who read the books. The rest of my family love the show and although I have to explain things here and there, the TV series does a good job on informing the non-book reader as to what is brewing in the plot.

    I know I come on here and nitpick a lot. Overall this series is completely original and there is nothing like it on TV. Besides tiny little things that bother me here and there I am very happy with the TV adaptation.

    I think this episode is going to start this seasons epicness. They laid down the groundwork and introduced most of the important new characters/relationships.

    Now we can just sit back and enjoy the show.

  75. Nimble Dick
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    I am excited to finally see Dany invade Westeros HAHAHA

  76. NousWanderer
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    How bold of you.

    EDIT: EVERYTHING IS BOLD.

  77. Arthur
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know why my writting is in bold print…

  78. The Instrumentalist
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait to see some kick ass Brienne-style! I wonder if we’ll also get to see Loras have his freak out. T’would be interesting, and quite amusing. >:3

  79. Nimble Dick
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Deborah,

    what is up
    call me
    i read all the books

  80. Vince
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Dee,
    I’m sure the producers will rest easy tonight. Phew..

  81. tysnow
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    I believe the conversation between the two Lann. guards was just to show everyone that they are just two normal blokes, who can fart around with each other, like we all do with our friends. Attempt to humanize the Lnnister soldiers (they aren’t all goons) like Bloody Mummers.

  82. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    So who will be the two people Arya whispers to Jaqen? I hope it’s not The Tickler and Poliver. Those two are important for a scene in season 3 or 4.

  83. Mike Chair
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I think it’s a rule that anyone with an 80″ HDTV must have their posts in bold, but I’m not sure. Just kidding. (I think it’s a bug because my whole preview is in bold.)

    Hey Arthur, I’m jealous of your 80″. I’m jealous of your family of GoT fans. I’m jealous of your Alaskan Malamutes! I agree with your prediction of (and creation of the term) “epicness” !!

  84. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    I’m hoping the storms will hold off for tonight. That is the one drawback to having satellite. Too many of my shows are on Sundays!

  85. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Sterling Archer created the term EPICNESS!

  86. Giselle Glasgow
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Excited to see Jaqen and Arya…. everything else will be bittersweet… *tear*

  87. Coltaine777
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Mark: Anybody else think that since they haven’t named any other Kingsguard members, they might have Ser Meryn attempy to kill tyrion at blackwater

    That’s a pretty good assumption…looking forward to the shadow baby in action …

  88. Arthur
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Hah!

    Well I’m ready to enjoy the show tonight.

    I know Ros will probably get some screentime crying to Tyrion about Jeff. (That is probably why D&D put that scene in there, for Ros, since it has already been made clear that Jeff is a sadastic prick). That and seeing the scrawny Mountain. (The new Mountain looks like Paul Gasol from the LA Lakers with armor on).

    Besides those two things that I know will push my buttons, I’ll be enjoying the show!

    I’ll be sure to come back and complain some more about what I didn’t like with y’all shortly after lol…

  89. Mike Chair
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Oh, thank you. Wiktionary didn’t disclose the etymology. I assumed it was Arthur.

  90. House Snow
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Hmm everything is now in shadow font

  91. Coltaine777
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    sorry for earlier spoiler..for some reason it didn’t black it out…I have requested comment deletion…

  92. Magnus
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    tysnow: etween the two Lann. guards was just to show everyone that they are just two normal blokes, who can fart around with each other, like we all do with our friends. Attempt to humanize the Lnnister soldiers (they aren’t all goons) like Bloody Mummers.

    And it mirrors the end scene nicely since both involve gaseous expulsions.

  93. Mike Chair
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Arthur: That and seeing the scrawny Mountain. (The new Mountain looks like Paul Gasol from the LA Lakers with armor on).

    I’m trying to pretend The Mountain has lost weight from all that murder, rape, pillage and plunder. It does take its toll.

  94. Arthur
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    House Snow,

    Haha!

    Yeah it’s “Shadowfont” in celebration of tonight!!!

  95. Direhound
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    I’m really wondering how the Tywin vs Roose storyline is going to work its way out,. If it’s a matter of geography shifting that doesn’t bother me but the politics of the situation could have profound effects on how season 3 pans out.

  96. Nagga's Kin
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Who let the bold out?

  97. Mike Chair
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Nagga’s Kin: Who let the bold out?

    The bold is ominous of this episode’s epicness.

    I blame (strike out “blame”) credit Winter.

  98. Melissa
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Suzaku,

    i can agree with you more, Jaqen is epic! one of the best, also im in love with him..ha

  99. coronaking
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Magnus,

    You’re not that far off, I think. At least they talk about being scared of shadows.

  100. Chris T.
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    TheDearHunter,

    Your name wouldn’t happen to come from the awesome Indie/ Progressive band from Boston would it?

  101. Magnus
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    coronaking,

    Well, it was mostly a joke. Hehe.

  102. tysnow
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Magnus,

    And it mirrors the end scene nicely since both involve gaseous expulsions

    Lol, nice, with the exception each exits from a different orifice. I wonder if the shawbaby emitted a fragant aroma of sorts. I can picture everyone in the tent shitting themselves when you know what appears.

  103. Nagga's Kin
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair: The bold is ominous of this episode’s epicness.

    Epic episode shall be epic!

  104. Knurk
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Somebody forgot to close a tag.

  105. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    It will almost certainly be those two, however it doesn’t really matter one way or another. Arya may get Needle back sooner than in the books (although she may not), but in no way, shape, or form is it “important” for those two characters to show up when they do in the third book.

  106. JamesL
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,
    It’s funny that you mention Pau Gasol because he is actually a big fan of the ASoIaF novels. He tweets about them sometimes and was just recently on an HBO sports documentary and they showed him reading one of the spanish versions of the books.

  107. House Snow
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    On a serious note how the hell are they going to fit all the scenes into tonights episode. Judging from the description and previews we get at least a scene from everyone except Rob.

  108. the goat
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    She came from Lys,
    she had a thirst for knowledge…

  109. Arthur
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Haha!

    That’s awesome! I’m not a big basketball fan but I watch the playoffs. When I was watching it today I saw him and thought how much he looked like the actor that is now playing The Mountain.

    Pau seems cool. Hope he gets another championship since he is a GoTs fan! =]

  110. Langkard
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    On behalf of the Throners, Thronies, Bannermen, Banners, Bannerpeople, Thronepeople, Bottom Supporters, Bottomers (what would Paco say?), Thronessieurs, RavenMavens and other assorted fans of the show, I hereby submit that we call ourselves…

    Tyrionistas!

    Pfft. I like it.

  111. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    House Snow,

    I imagine we’ll get the sequence at Renly’s camp to start the episode, and Ary will get a good amount of focus theoughout the episode. I think we’ll be seeing less of King’s Landing in this episode to make room for more Dany and Jon Snow, and the scenes with Theon and Bran in Winterfell could be rather short; setting things up more for the next episode than anything else. Still, it’s a lot to get through in 57 minutes.

  112. PatD
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    I really hope they give Halfhand his due. I found him one of the most intriguing characters. Maybe it was too much projection on my part, but I sensed a sort of stoic death wish on his part, long before the final event with Jon and the wildlings. It was almost as though he’d had his fill of the Ranger life and decided when he met Jon that he’d take control of his destiny in the only way possible for him. He was one of my favorite kinds of characters: full of ambiguity in that he was clearly duty bound but much deeper than that, too. I hope they’ve preserved some of that in the series.

  113. Langkard
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Andrew:
    I’m really excited for this episode. All the Jaqen stuff has been one of the things i’ve been most looking forward to this season. I’m not gonna lie though, if he doesn’t keep the “A man…A girl…” etc. way of speaking, I will be a little dissapointed. Not enough to hate the episode or anything, but I’ll have a minor sad for a few seconds. I’m also really interested to see the Arya/Tywin scenes, and how they play out.

    It’ll also be nice finally seeing the Wildfire and the Pyromancers guild! Maybe they’ll even include Tyrion ordering the citys smiths to start working on the chain?

    It’s one of the episodes I’ve been looking forward to as well. Hopefully we’ll get to see Roy Dotrice tonight!

    The really sad part about tonight is it means the season is already half over! /whine

  114. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    It will almost certainly be those two, however it doesn’t really matter one way or another. Arya may get Needle back sooner than in the books (although she may not), but in no way, shape, or form is it “important” for those two characters to show up when they do in the third book.

    Yes, but the Tickler is one of Arya’s kills. That scene is one of the best parts of the books. “Is their gold in the village”?

  115. TC
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Not a spoiler but we have three episodes left before the battle of blackwater… i feel like the first 4 episodes have cranked us to the top of the roller coaster now we get to let it rip and build the tension to the epic episode 9 (took 1 month to film). Also – i know it will be a little out of place but i bet we get three horn blasts in episode 10. Can’t wait.

  116. MW
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    *sigh* I give up. Can’t format my post.

  117. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Has anyone else noticed that the finale is listed as being 64 minutes long? Sweet! In fact 5 of the 6 remaining episodes are 56+ minutes(episode 6 is 54 minutes).

  118. Arthur
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    Omg!

    Roy Dotrice made my rides to and from work for about 6 months so very enjoyable. He is the best narrator I have ever encountered.

    Listening to Roy read GRRM’s books with his Shakespearian voice acting skills was amazing. He made every character come to life in ways me just reading it myself never have.

    To anyone who hasn’t listened to the audio books on iTunes that are read by Roy. You are in for a real treat if you buy and download it and listen to it on your rides to and from work. I looked forward to my 45min rides to work because Roy would be narrating ASOIAF for me. He was awesome!

  119. Dornishman
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    KaMrAnAhMeD: I’m also waiting for the Tyrion’s deal of marriage between ******* and *******… at the same time I just hope they don’t go too far and NOT end the season with ********* death cause I want that moment to be hugely epic. I’m sure everybody as fans of the books as well as the series, most of them want ********* death which shuld only come in season 3

      

    Hunny, that happens in ASOS remember….we’re still on book 2 for this season

  120. Michael Harper
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    Is it only 54 minutes until the episode starts, or 1 hour and 54 minutes?

  121. Queensmoot
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper,

    51 minutes here in CST!

  122. Tony Stark
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    I think little finger is going to woo mageary tyrell to marry Jeoffrey. I think he might also pursuade catelyn even more to free NCW.

  123. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper,

    54 minutes, it is at 9:00 pm EST

  124. Michael Harper
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    Cool cool cool :) thanks

  125. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    1 minute!!!!

  126. Weirwood
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Enough with the commercials HBO! Curtain up already!

  127. Russian FAN
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    where is my Ned,,,,

  128. Queensmoot
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Weirwood,

    Seriously! 8:05 and we’re at credits. Worth the wait though.

  129. Lívia
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Ohh come on, I’m losing faith after this scene with the shadow. It was so terribly acted.

  130. Eric Clark
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    So they made it seem as if Loras knew it wasn’t Brienne not sure how I feel about that one

  131. Renly's Peach
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Russian FAN:
    where is my Ned,,,,

    Dead.

  132. Queensmoot
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    I just flipped a table. The Tickler?

  133. LordStarkington
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Aww, look at the cute little dragons.

  134. Weirwood
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Was that PEACH FUZZ on Bran’s top lip? ;)

  135. NewJeffCT
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    What? Bran dreamed that the sea came to Winterfell?

  136. qwerty
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    NewJeffCT:
    What?Bran dreamed that the sea came to Winterfell?

    An extremely predictable and welcome change. i am surprised you are surprised.

    the people who said that line in the book have not been cast. theyare overrated and not necessary. this has been discussed a million times.

  137. LordStarkington
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Bran has to dream it without Reeds. Since it’s his powers that matter more than anyone else’s, it seems like a good change (it’s him, Osha or Rickon, really).

  138. The Instrumentalist
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    A little disappointed the Tickler died now. But maybe they’ll have another man in his place later. Brienne’s oath to Catelyn… could have cried. :’) But the shadow scene was pretty bad… good thing the rest of the episode was so good! The highlight had to be Tywin’s discussion with Arya, imho.

  139. Maxwell James
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    OK, that? That was awesome. Best episode yet.

  140. LordStarkington
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Preview for next episode looks great. Ygritte, the King’s Landing riots, Winterfell

  141. Weirwood
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    My take on this episode….A few more cranks to tighten the crossbow. So the tension mounts……

  142. JonSnow
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    AHHHH the Killed The Tickler I new it!! Nerd Rage! Haha jk. Little upset though that I wont see Arya’s epic killing of him in season 3 or 4

  143. daev3
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    LordStarkington:
    Bran has to dream it without Reeds. Since it’s his powers that matter more than anyone else’s, it seems like a good change (it’s him, Osha or Rickon, really).

    I wonder if Rickon is going away later alone…maybe he will go with Bran..Maybe they can just kill him off..hes another useless character.

    qwerty: An extremely predictable and welcome change. i am surprised you are surprised.

    the people who said that line in the book have not been cast. theyare overrated and not necessary. this has been discussed a million times.

  144. Dreamlife
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    I am happy it ended on a positive note (well, positive for this series) with Jaqen killing The Tickler. Hell yeah! I only wish it had been more, I dunno, graphic, considering how awful he was last week to those prisoners.

    The oath scene between Brienne and Cat was perfect for fans of the books, but probably seemed a little hokey to non-fantasy fans.

    I loved every Arya scene, especially when she says, “Anyone can die” to Tywin. Wow. Look on her face was chilling; even Tywin seemed to get her drift. I also liked seeing her teach Gendry the proper stance while practicing with his sword.

    I like that they gave Bran the green dream. I will miss Jojen and Meera, but it makes sense to give the abilities to Bran. I am surprised they didn’t “show” us the dream of the three eyed crow, though.

    The Qarth scenes are the strangest for me. I know they are similar to the book, but something just seemed off, like they were at a scifi convention. Pyat Pree’s trick and introduction of the house of the undying was cool, but Quaithe looks so weird in that mask. I did like the added scene with Dany and Xaro.

    Loved the North of the Wall scenes, especially Samwell’s excitement at standing on the Fist of the First Men. I like TV Sam better than bumbling book Sam. I was surprised we didn’t get a better Qorin Halfhand intro, but that’s a minor quibble. Is this the last time Jon will see Commander Mormont?

  145. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Was anybody else yelling at Arya when she didn’t know the sigil of house Mooten?
    I was all “IT’S A WOMAN IN A SWIRL OF WHITE SILK, YOU IDIOT! AND THEIR WORDS ARE ‘BRAVE AND BEAUTIFUL’!!!” That’s when a realized how sad it was that I knew that, even though house Mooten plays only a tiny, tiny role. Anyway, when is Dany going to name her dragons? However, I was delighted to finally see Qaithe. However, I’m less than impressed with the acting of whoever is playing Brienne, she seems kind of robotic. On a different notes, did we get a glimpse of the Cleftjaw, or am I mistaken?

  146. daev3
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know why they would not give Jon Snow more credit for being a Stark……
    First Craster, now Qorin(spelling) I would have liked it better Q wanting a Stark with him.
    I guess they don’t want viewers to think the Starks mean something in the north.
    (Book thing)

  147. winterfell
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Eric Clark,

    i dont think he was denying it was brienne as much as saying Stannis was ultimately behind it no matter who killed renly. had me confused at first as well

  148. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    daev3:
    I don’t know why they would not give Jon Snow more credit for being a Stark……
    First Craster, now Qorin(spelling) I would have liked it better Q wanting a Stark with him.I guess they don’t want viewers to think the Starks mean something in the north.

    Same here, it just didn’t seem quite right having Jon ask to go on this mission rather than Qhorin asking for him specifically, my main worry there is that non-readers might think that his fake desertion is… well… not fake. Other than that though, I quite liked the Halfhand scenes

  149. Quorin Halfhand
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    Was anybody else yelling at Arya when she didn’t know the sigil of house Mooten?
    I was all “IT’S A WOMAN IN A SWIRL OF WHITE SILK, YOU IDIOT! AND THEIR WORDS ARE ‘BRAVE AND BEAUTIFUL’!!!” That’s when a realized how sad it was that I knew that, even though house Mooten plays only a tiny, tiny role. Anyway, when is Dany going to name her dragons? However, I was delighted to finally see Qaithe. However, I’m less than impressed with the acting of whoever is playing Brienne, she seems kind of robotic. On a different notes, did we get a glimpse of the Cleftjaw, or am I mistaken?

    LOL thats some epic nerd rage there. Im on my third read through (about 20 chapters into a storm of swords), and even if my mothers life was on the line, i couldnt guess ANYTHING about the sigil of house mooton. Pretty cool though, just shows how much of a epic world GRRM created

    On topic tho, i loved this episode. I thought everything went extremely well, im a little dissapointed that the tickler was killed at this point of the story but i had to tell myself..”THIS IS A TV ADAPTATION, NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS” … lol..i love it so far, i have faith in david, d.b, and grrm.

    and literally, thats has been my ONLY quirk all season because arya killing the tickler was one of my favorite parts of a storm of swords…but hey, what can we do, these guys are doing the best they can

  150. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Quorin Halfhand,

    Heehee, yes, I’m a nerd, and proud of it!

  151. cindyash
    Posted April 29, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Reek and Theon

    Um, aren’t they >the same person? Wouldn’t they just use the same actor?

    I like TV Sam better than bumbling book Sam.

    I didn’t like him at first, but Martin did such a good job of developing that character that I couldn’t help but love him. He found his nitch, and by the end of the last book, I was so hoping that he gets together with Gilly and finds a home at last.

  152. KG
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    The dancing maiden is Piper, so maybe you’d better lay off Arya’s heraldic knowledge until you get some yourself.

  153. Hassan Madkour
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 6:01 am | Permalink

    Am I the only one who’s pissed that Jon Snow didn’t find the dragonglass dagger before going with Qhorin? How will Samwell get the dagger?? How will he become Sam the Slayer and know that it kills white walkers?! I swear the show will be ruined in the next seasons if they don’t stop all of these small plot changes

  154. coronaking
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 6:03 am | Permalink

    Hassan Madkour,

    A shame a dagger can’t be found another way. They definitely ruined everything now.

  155. Hassan Madkour
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    coronaking,

    if it’s not jon who found it, how would it explain jon having a dragonglass dagger?

  156. Oliver Hardy
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Where are Meera and Jojen Reed?

  157. Eor
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Hassan Madkour:
    coronaking,

    if it’s not jon who found it, how would it explain jon having a dragonglass dagger?

    At what point does Jon need a dragonglass dagger? Sam just needs to find the cache and be like “oh this is dragonglass i know because i read it in a book” and the plot is fine. This gives Sam something to do for the next five episodes.

  158. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    Yes, yes I got over excited and accidentally typed that it was a dancing maiden with the words ‘brave and beautiful’, instead of a red salmon and the words ‘wisdom and strength’. So sue me.

  159. Stannis
    Posted April 30, 2012 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Winteriscoming.net, if you ever get the chance to interview Dan Weiss, please ask him to stop letting his personal feelings about Stannis’ character impact the way the character translates onto the screen. Thanks

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