Casting Speculation

Casting Season Three: Ramsay Snow

Art by Amok

In this past week’s episode, Roose Bolton mentions that he has a bastard son at his castle, the Dreadfort, and suggests to Robb that he could be sent to take back Winterfell. Although he isn’t named in the show, book readers know him as Ramsay Snow and/or Ramsay Bolton. He is a character that appears for the first time in the second book, although he was not cast for the second season, leading some fans to speculate whether the character had been cut entirely. But now we know he is in!

In the books, Ramsay is described as having a “fleshy appearance, with large, wormy lips, long hair … and pale eyes” (per AWOIAF). A recent casting breakdown for season three indicated that the production is looking for a “male 20-30, but weird and extreme looking.” Sounds like Ramsay to me!

Let’s take a look at some popular fan choices for the role of the Bastard of Bolton.

Cillian Murphy – This Irish actor has been a top choice of the fans for the role of Ramsay for a while. Most people would probably recognize him from Batman Begins or Inception. While I think he does have the look (those pale eyes are perfect) and the acting chops to be a good Ramsay, and he has even been cast by Nina Gold before, I think his career in Hollywood may derail any hope of him signing up for the role.
Robert Sheehan – Another Irish actor, Sheehan is perhaps best-known for his role in the E4 sci-fi show Misfits. He also appeared in the Nina Gold-cast Red Riding mini-series, alongside other Thrones cast members Sean Bean and Mark Addy. While he’s definitely got the pale eyes, I’m not sure his overall look is “weird and extreme” enough. He also looks to have a pretty busy schedule currently. But a role like this could be a good move for him career-wise, as he is mostly unknown in the States.
Domhnall Gleeson – Yet another Irish actor, there’s no doubt Gleeson has the right look for the role. He wouldn’t even need a wig. (Any time they can avoid using a wig, they should.) His previous credits include appearances in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1 & 2, Never Let Me Go, and True Grit. He has also been cast by Nina Gold before… twice actually. His film career seems to be burgeoning at the moment though, with roles in a number of upcoming movies, which could be a strike against him.
Iwan Rheon – A Welsh actor who has also appeared in Misfits, Rheon has gained a good bit of support from the fans for the role of Ramsay. He’s got the look and with it being confirmed that he won’t be returning for the fourth series of Misfits, he seems to have an open schedule. Like the others, he also has been cast by Nina Gold before which, as we know, can be a help. I’d say out of the four choices presented here, Rheon has the best shot.

What do you think? Do you like any of these four choices? Or do you have someone else in mind for the Bastard of Bolton? Sound off in the comments!

404 Comments

  • 1410th?

    I’m not really sure about those choices, Can’t say I ever heard of any of them and they got a bit of a prettyboy look to them.

  • Cillian Murphy would be peeeeerfect. Hopefully Game of Thrones has become high profile enough to make it worth his while, he’d be brilliant for this.

  • All I know is that I’m soooooo glad that the GOT casting people do not cast based on Amok’s series of fan artwork of the characters that permeates the ASOIAF wiki pages. Ugh – I have NEVER liked them.

  • Lars:
    All I know is that I’m soooooo glad that the GOT casting people do not cast based on Amok’s series of fan artwork of the characters that permeates the ASOIAF wiki pages. Ugh – I have NEVER liked them.

    Disagree, 100%. Yes, Amok’s versions are a little cartoony… but they’re also fairly accurate to the book descriptions. And many of the casting choices DO look a LOT like the Amok versions.

    Anyways, man… this thread makes me feel nostalgic!

  • Lars, yeah, I’m not a huge fan of his portraits either, but his Ramsay is actually pretty good. Plus there is a real dearth of Ramsay artwork, so I didn’t have many choices for this post.

  • czechgirl:
    Michael Pitt is the only option as Ramsay for me…..

    Michael Pitt would be badass!!!! And guess what, he’s free of other HBO obligations!

    Also, what about our original Waymar Royce, Jamie Campbell Bower
    There’s something weird and cruel looking about him to me.

  • Cilian Murphy: looks too old, too succesful in the big screen right now.
    Robert Sheehan: could pass well as the actor who plays Roose, though it will be weird seeing him as anyhting other than Nathan, the guy that was arrested for stealing pick’n’mix.
    Domnhall Gleeson: Don’t know much about him.
    Iwan Rheon: Does have this weird look about him. I think he could do a good job.

    The guy I always had in mind was Michael Wincott in 1492: Conquest of Paradise. http://i2.listal.com/image/603376/936full-michael-wincott.jpg
    He is too old now though.

  • I think Ewen Bremner would be a great Ramsay. He’s not really “fleshy”, but he can do weird and extreme looking, for sure.

  • I’d never even considered Iwan Rheon for the role of Ramsay, but… Yeah, I like it. A lot.

  • Cillian Murphy would be the ULTIMATE RAMSAY BOLTON AND I CAN’T CONTAIN HOW UNUTTERABLY AMAZING THIS WOULD BE ODGJDKFHKDR:RKDSJOLFG

    Ugh. He would be SO PERFECT.

  • czechgirl,

    Why go with an American (and an expensive one, at least after the success with BE) when there’s plenty of unknown UK talent out there?

    He’s a good actor, but I would honestly rather see someone a bit unknown. Like Rheon. As mentioned, Murphy is probably too busy with Hollywood projects.

  • Woah, Cillian Murphy would be perfect. But I doubt he’s the right choice. I’m sure there’s a lot of unknown talent that will be great.

  • Iweon all the way! He has the eyes, the chops and we know he van play unnerving. He was in a movie with Tom W recently. Now where did I put that picture of them together at the premiere? *scurries off to find fangirl fotos folder*

  • What will they Ramsay do in Season 3? He’s not really in A Storm of Swords other than passing mentions.

    Are they going to show him flaying Theon after sacking Winterfell? How much of that can they show in seasons 3 and 4?

  • Cillian Murphy is the dream cast. But he is hollywood famous, now. He has the creeeeeepy eyes and is an amazing actor, but a tv show? Has he ever been in one? I don’t think he’ll even consider the role, at least not if Ramsay is a major.
    I do like the Gleeson casting – not because I have seen him in anything, but his picture is creepy.
    I think Sheehan could pull it off, to be honest. I think he’d be the most open to considering this role, as it is completely different to his Skins role…and he probably doesn’t want to be typecast as the funny guy.
    Rheon initially seems good, but he plays a creeper in Skins already, and I like it when they make unexpected casting choices. He’s just too baby face for the role to me, too. I really hope they don’t go in his direction…

  • Cillian Murphy would do well here. He would be a fucking inspired Ramsay Bolton.

    It’s important to keep in mind that Ramsay is a MAJOR antagonist later on in the series. A big role that could really benefit from a big name.

    Still. Cillian for Ramsay Sn- Bolton 2012!

  • Does this mean that he’s definetely not in Season 2? Are they going to postpone the Winterfell storyarc until next season?

  • A.) Cillian or go home.
    B.) Honorable mention for Iwan.
    C.) Fat Walda, that Hans Matheson dude scares the crap out of me. I wouldn’t want to meet him in a dark alley! Hmm. Maybe he’s the dude we want.
    D.) Nah. Cillian or go home. Go rewatch him in Batman Begins. He didn’t need a mask. He was already terrifying.

  • shadowbabies,

    Putting aside the fact that he’ll get a reasonably handsome actor anyway… he’s never described as ugly. Not once. The worst he gets is “Lord Ramsay had a fleshiness to him that suggested he would go to fat in later life.”

    Oh, and his lips are pretty plump. That’s about it.

  • Not sure if the show can get him but what about Eddie Redmayne?

    Or Sean Harris who is currently on The Borgias.

    Cillian Murphy would be great he even looks a little like Michael McElhatton.

    Would Jackie Earle Haley be too old?

  • Man you leave the site for twenty minutes and thirty comments come up. Cillian Murphy would be absolutely brilliant for this! Just rewatch the scene in Batman Begins right before he sprays Carmine Falcone with Fear Gas. Imagine him talking to Theon!
    Getting my box set this month! Finally!

  • They’re not gonna cast an American actor for Ramsay, FFS… Dinklage and Momoa were exceptions. -_-

    I like the Black Death monk dude, he looks creepy and ugly and he has the pale eyes. And Hans Matheson mentioned by Fat Walda sounds decent, that first pic has a cruel-looking smile that could work for Ramsay. Almost everyone else posted so far is dead wrong though. They all look like effeminate pretty-boys, WTF?

    Too bad Michael Wincott is too old, he’d be perfect.

  • Villane: Michael Pitt would be badass!!!! And guess what, he’s free of other HBO obligations!

    As much as I love Pitt I don’t think he’ll be working again for HBO anytime soon.
    Iwan Rheon all the way. He’s hot, but he can be a pretty convincing psycho when he wants to.

  • There’s also a dearth of good sacking songs.

    Winter Is Coming:
    Lars, yeah, I’m not a huge fan of his portraits either, but his Ramsay is actually pretty good. Plus there is a real dearth of Ramsay artwork, so I didn’t have many choices for this post.

  • Also, if Ramsay isn’t cast for S2, why would he be cast for S3? He doesn’t appear anywhere in book 3, he’s only in ADWD. He’d have to delayed til season 4 or even 5 (especially if ASoS is split into two seasons)…

  • I think it may be a little too soon to talk about casting Ramsey Snow. Sure we know he is in, but I don’t see him being casted for next season. I think season 4 is when they will actually probably cast the character.

  • Cillian Murphy is waaay too expensive. Robert Sheehan and Iwan Rheon don’t have either the gravitas or the experience to pull off Ramsey, imo.

    Peronally, I would really like to see Ben Whishaw in the role. He would be perfect.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924210/

    Burn Gorman would be my second choice. He can play twisted humanity with the best of em.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1218607/

    Lastly, Rafe Spall. He has presence, and can play the baddy with aplomb.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1245863/

  • Honestly, I don’t know why Cillian is such a popular choice. Sure he looks creepy, but if I remember correctly, Ramsay is depicted as less creepier than his father, but far more ruthless and evil (like Joff with an affinity for flaying, basically), so no … if they decided to cut Roose and merge his and Ramsay’s role into one, then I’d vote for Cillian, but in this case my vote goes to Iwan Rheon.

  • Morrigan,

    I kind of think that makes them more creepy somehow. They look innocent in a way, but could pull off psycho easily.

  • Morrigan:
    Also, if Ramsay isn’t cast for S2, why would he be cast for S3? He doesn’t appear anywhere in book 3, he’s only in ADWD. He’d have to delayed til season 4 or even 5 (especially if ASoS is split into two seasons)…

    isn’t he the original Reek? Doesn’t he come in book 2?

  • Remaal:
    Cillian Murphy is waaay too expensive. Robert Sheehan and Iwan Rheon don’t have the gravitas or the experience to pull off Ramsey, imo.

    Peronally, I would really like to see Ben Whishaw in the role. He would be perfect.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0924210/

    Burn Gorman would be my second choice. He can play twisted humanity with the best of em.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1218607/

    Lastly, Rafe Spall. He has presence, and can play the baddy with aplomb.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1245863/

    I LOVED Ben Whishaw in The Hour, but now he’s going to be Q for Bond, yes?

  • That Gleeson guy has the most Ramsay feel for me. I haven’t seen him in anything so can’t say more.

    Amok’s art is mostly quite nice.

  • I’d love to see Michael Pitt as Ramsay!! He fits the book description to a T. But I’m not sure he could play someone so profoundly evil… wasn’t really impressed with his acting on BE. Out of these four posted (based on looks because I don’t know that I’ve seen them in anything):

    Cilian Murphy: Perfect face for Ramsay
    Robert Sheehan: Just too freaking pretty.
    Domnhall Gleeson: Doesn’t look very fleshy, but other than that I guess he’d be okay
    Iwan Rheon: He has the right look, IMO. I’d be happy with him.

  • Alexander Dubrovsky,

    I really, really want Eddie Redmayne to eventually play Rhaegar Targaryen. So much so that I’d be totally disappointed if he was cast as Ramsay. I get that Ramsay is a bigger part, but he’d be so perfect for Rhaegar. He’s got the gravitas to play how intelligent the character is, and the dreamy quality to show how into the “family destiny” he was. From what we learn about him and Lyanna in ADWD, whoever plays him in flashbacks has to be the airy romantic to Lyanna’s stability. (She comes off as passionate, but fairly grounded in reality.)

  • Katie:
    Alexander Dubrovsky,

    I really, really want Eddie Redmayne to eventually play Rhaegar Targaryen. So much so that I’d be totally disappointed if he was cast as Ramsay. I get that Ramsay is a bigger part, but he’d be so perfect for Rhaegar. He’s got the gravitas to play how intelligent the character is, and the dreamy quality to show how into the “family destiny” he was. From what we learn about him and Lyanna in ADWD, whoever plays him in flashbacks has to be the airy romantic to Lyanna’s stability. (She comes off as passionate, but fairly grounded in reality.)

    He would be a great Rhaegar. Nice one!

  • Elaine:
    I’d love to see Michael Pitt as Ramsay!! He fits the book description to a T. But I’m not sure he could play someone so profoundly evil… wasn’t really impressed with his acting on BE. Out of these four posted (based on looks because I don’t know that I’ve seen them in anything):

    Cilian Murphy: Perfect face for Ramsay
    Robert Sheehan: Just too freaking pretty.
    Domnhall Gleeson: Doesn’t look very fleshy, but other than that I guess he’d be okay
    Iwan Rheon: He has the right look, IMO. I’d be happy with him.

    Michael Pitt is almost too conventionally nice looking, but he can do dangerous based on his work in Boardwalk.

  • Lex: Why not?

    Because I think there were problems between his agency and HBO or somthing like that ….. I’ll need to find that article again. And there were rumors that he got in trouble with the production of BE. I’m not sure, but I’ve seen it in a lot of places (that was a few months ago. Before BE ended there were a lot of rumor that he was going to leave the production for that and we all know what happened).
    Still, I’d love to see Pitt in Thrones, I love the guy. But Rheon is better. I also like that Ben guy from the hour – I watched it a while ago because of Oona Chaplin and I loved it.

    PS: It feels great to post here again! I’m trying to avoid this page because I should be studying and not watching GOT (I haven’t even watched ep 12 yet!) but I still check the pages sometimes. It’s nice to see the casting articles again!

  • I love you guys, but just omit any actor with an extensive film career (Cillian Murphy). They are never going to pay Hollywood salary for minor roles, which is a GOOD thing.

    Thirst.

  • Burn Gorman would be an interesting choice I reckon…Cillian Murphy has cold eyes and can play creepy, but he doesn’t have the right look. Ramsay is a vicious, sadistic fiend, and Murphy doesn’t fit that profile for me (not sure about the others though). Gorman just has the right look as far as I’m concerned.

  • John W,

    I’d love to see Sean Harris as Beric Dondarrion.

    I just hope filming of the 3rd Borgias season doesn’t clash with SoS filming. Nina Gold has cast him in several movies, so there’s some hope.

  • Once I saw The Pacific, Rami Malek was my Bastard of Bolton. I know, I know American, too good looking blah blah blah…. the dude is creepy and can act, that’s all I care about.

  • Sam S: Burn Gorman

    Mr. Gorman is indeed creepy looking. Hey, he was ALSO in The Hour along with Whishaw. (Of course also Torchwood.) Gorman is so incredibly pale and with the dark hair, and unique jawline, he would fit some, however his eyes are not pale. (Not that GoT has always paid attention to eye color. See also, any Targaryen.)

  • I would love Cillian as Ramsay, but I could also see David Radcliffe as the Bastard. He has the Pale Eyes and with long hair and without glasses, maybe some facial hair, he wouldn’t be Potter. This would really broaden his acting repertoire and avoid him being typecast.
    I imagine him somewhat like Elliah Wood as the cannibal in Sin City…

  • Wow, I’d hate to read this thread without having already read the books. You guys are giving a lot away about who Ramsay is.

  • Chris77:
    I would love Cillian as Ramsay, but I could also see David Radcliffe as the Bastard. He has the Pale Eyes and with long hair and without glasses, maybe some facial hair, he wouldn’t be Potter. This would really broaden his acting repertoire and avoid him being typecast.
    I imagine him somewhat like Elliah Wood as the cannibal in Sin City…

    Isn’t his name Daniel Radcliffe? Not a big Potter fan but I think it’s Daniel. That would really expand his repertoire to play a sicko perv. Yes, I could see it.

    Also the last guy on the list at the top, Iwan Rheon, seems like he looks the most like the guy who’s playing Roose right now. That could work too. Cillian would be awesome, but would probably be either too busy or want too much $$$.

  • Benedict Cumberbatch. I really enjoy his dark, sarcastic take on Sherlock Holmes. I have no doubt he would TEAR IT UP as Ramsay Snow. It’s about screen presence as well, and Cumberbatch hooks people just by his presence in a scene.

  • Katie:
    Alexander Dubrovsky,

    I really, really want Eddie Redmayne to eventually play Rhaegar Targaryen.

    Whaaaa? Rhaegar is supposed to be the super-handsome dreamy prince of legend. That guy is pretty much hideous. You guys are nuts and I’m glad you aren’t involved with casting, yikes…

  • For some reason I always pictured the actor who played GrIma Wormtongue in LotR as Ramsay, just younger, less of a bitch and more of a brute.

    I like Rheon for the part, he just has that phsycotic look to him, and those pale eyes. Hope they nail it with whoever they pick.

  • Elena Amici: As much as I love Pitt I don’t think he’ll be working again for HBO anytime soon.
    Iwan Rheon all the way. He’s hot, but he can be a pretty convincing psycho when he wants to.

    This one and my beloved both hated Michael Pitt in BE, we would call it the “kill Jimmy” show since we hated his acting/non-acting. Trying to be young Brando but not cutting it. Can’t tell you how happy we were at the end of last season of BE. Pitt wouldn’t have the passion for Ramsey, he needs to be more overtly hostile and creepy IMO. Somebody that would give you the chills up your spine on first look. That’s Ramsay.

  • Severian:
    Benedict Cumberbatch. I really enjoy his dark, sarcastic take on Sherlock Holmes.

    Therein lies the problem. It can’t be an actor already committed to another series, since the Bastard will be a major feature for at least 2 seasons (Book 4 and 5 at the least. Especially 5…)

  • I think the Sheehan fellow looks the part. His face is not that unlike Roose Bolton’s. Although, since we may see Ramsey this season as he is such an integral part of the Theon sequence, we may be spinning our wheels. I personally am keeping my fingers crossed that DnD cast him and kept it quiet. Also, for those who do know the books, does anyone else think it’s odd that Roose would send his Bastard before he has gotten word while holding Harrenhall that Robb broke his promise…..I always thought that was the catalyst to Roose’s betrayal. He saw Frey withdrawing his support and thus read the writing on the wall. As such he would send Ramsey to Winterfell. I just don’t see the motivation here unless Ramsey and Roose are just crazy guys who want to stir the pot and watch the world burn……thoughts?

  • Connie: Therein lies the problem. It can’t be an actor already committed to another series, since the Bastard will be a major feature for at least 2 seasons (Book 4 and 5 at the least. Especially 5…)

    Plus Sherlock looks like he’ll NEVER get fat.

  • Who was the person who suggested Ben Wishaw? (From the Hour) He’d be great too. He’s such an expressive actor, he’d really pull off the quiet psychopath well. (I mean that as a compliment,lol.)

    RIGHT, so so far I’ve said Cillian Murphy, agreed with Michael Pitt (even if he’s apparently out), and whole-heartedly agreed with Ben Wishaw. Clearly I’m not cut out to be a casting director, because I couldn’t make the decision. (Unrelated, when will the Hour’s 2nd series air in the US? Anyone know?)

  • I don’t know a lot of other UK actors, but out of those four, i’m deffinitely casting my lot in with Gleeson! I do hope he has already been cast and it just went unannounced, though. I want to see him in episode 10.

  • Ohhhh and I agree- Benedict Cumberbatch! But he’s too busy filming the Hobbit + sherlock, sadly..

  • Agnieszka:
    I would like to see Andrew Scott as Ramsey. He was great as Moriarty and I think he’d be perfect for the role.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0778831/

    Plus, he too was once cast by Nina Gold, for an HBO show no less: ‘John Adams’. Then again, he might be too busy with Sherlock, if he’s back for the third season..

  • Andrew Scott!

    Andrew Scott!

    Not sure why he isn’t one of the top choices, he is almost always one of the top “fan-castings” on most other GOT forums/threads that I frequent.

    He is fabulous in Sherlock and is not really a huge star yet, so maybe he could fit it into his schedule.

    Just look at these pictures and tell me you don’t see Ramsay:

    http://i.imgur.com/KstNV.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/0evNj.gif

  • Ghost Robot,

    That’s Moriarty on Sherlock, right? Don’t get me wrong, he’s great, but there’s something about his M. that bugs the crap out of me. Which… actually might work, since I’ll be wanting to smack the shit out of Ramsay anyways.

  • Lala,

    Benedict Cumberbatch isn’t in The Hobbit, that’s Martin Freeman. I just started watching Sherlock the other day and was struck by how perfectly he would fit the role. I’m not sure if the filming of Sherlock alone would disqualify him, though.

  • Feanor,

    Benedict is doing motion capture for Smaug the dragon, and has been shooting in NZ for several months. He’s go back later this year as well.

  • Katie:
    Ghost Robot,

    That’s Moriarty on Sherlock, right? Don’t get me wrong, he’s great, but there’s something about his M. that bugs the crap out of me. Which… actually might work, since I’ll be wanting to smack the shit out of Ramsay anyways.

    Methinks he looks a bit too old, remember he will be married off to a very young girl at some point. Not that that matters. But still.

  • Feanor:
    Lala,

    Benedict Cumberbatch isn’t in The Hobbit, that’s Martin Freeman.

    Wrong. Cumberbatch plays TWO characters in the Hobbit. The dragon Smaug, and the Necromancer.

  • Mrs. H’ghar,

    The girl he marries is not as young as she’s supposed to be. I’d go into it more, but I can’t work the spoiler tag on my phone.

  • Katie:
    Ghost Robot,

    That’s Moriarty on Sherlock, right? Don’t get me wrong, he’s great, but there’s something about his M. that bugs the crap out of me. Which… actually might work, since I’ll be wanting to smack the shit out of Ramsay anyways.

    Yeah, he was Moriarty. I completely agree with you on the smacking business, if any character deserves it, it’s Ramsay!

    He just has one of those faces that you just want to hit, similar to Joffrey.

    But I love the idea of Andrew Scott as Ramsay. I know he played up Moriarty as a more “dramatic/emotional/psychotic” villain, but I think he could easily tone down his performance to make Ramsay come off as more of a creeper and let the viewers judge the character by his heinous actions. I think he is a fine actor, I’d love to see him land a juicy role like Ramsay.

  • I wish Paul Bettany were a bit younger…I think he would be a good fit, but alas, I think he’s too old.

  • Feanor: Lala, Benedict Cumberbatch isn’t in The Hobbit, that’s Martin Freeman. I just started watching Sherlock the other day and was struck by how perfectly he would fit the role. I’m not sure if the filming of Sherlock alone would disqualify him, though.

    He is actually, 2 roles in fact Smaug and the Necromancer.

  • So glad someone else mentioned Radcliffe cause I was thinking ‘Ron’ Rupert Grint needs to escape Potter’s shadow too — and after playing Ramsey, no one would ever see him as Ron again

  • Hiddleston & Cumberbath are my favorite choices. They might be a bit old, but they’d still be awesome.
    And Ramsay’s voice in my head whenever I read the books has always been Charlie Day with his high-pitched, squeaky voice. If he could just voice Ramsay and then Hiddles or Cumberbatch could act it out. Yeah. (Not really, of course.)

  • Lars:
    All I know is that I’m soooooo glad that the GOT casting people do not cast based on Amok’s series of fan artwork of the characters that permeates the ASOIAF wiki pages. Ugh – I have NEVER liked them.

    Interesting. I actually like Amok’s drawings. But I’ve only seen them on one visit to ASOIAF. For all I know if I go back and look again I may change my mind!

  • Ghost Robot,

    He’s worse than Joffrey. At least with Joffrey, you know he’s all talk. Ramsay is downright scary. Were I in Westeros, and I lasted longer than my projected 10 minute survival time, I’d be that person who calls him “Snow” to piss him off and end up with a hound named after me. :/ His reaction to his bastardy v. Jon’s is really interesting to me.

    I forgot about Ramsay’s sort’ve high pitched voice. If your guy can pull off a more subtle psychotic, I think he could physically pull off the role.

  • Rheon initially seems good, but he plays a creeper in Skins already, and I like it when they make unexpected casting choices. He’s just too baby face for the role to me, too. I really hope they don’t go in his direction…

    I like the idea of casting an actor of an age with Alfie Allen. Makes showing real cold cruelty compared to Theon’s pathetic attempts at power a good contrast and not so much about power coming with the authority of age.

    WIC:

    A recent casting breakdown for season three indicated that the production is looking for a “male 20-30, but weird and extreme looking.”

    Interesting that extreme looking would b a criteria for Ramsay as it limits casting agents pool of talent greatly. Unusual looking and a brilliant actor? Small pool.

    Re Michael Pitt: rumours from set were that he was allegedly, difficult to work with. The he was dropped by his agent despite his profile. There are rumours to the contrary though, so who knows?

    Love Benedict, but like Cillian, he is too big for the role now. Count me in on a Andrew Scott as Moriarty supporter, but I can’t see and actor of his standing and age wanting to play psychotic again so soon.

  • Cillian Murphy w/o a doubt, hands down. You hear me and all the others Nina, it’s Mr. Murphy, period. I checked IMDB, and he has nothing on his slate for this year, besides, the show gives the actors 6-8 months to film other projects.
    Cillian even looks like he would be the son of Michael McElhatton.

  • I never really had any ideal casting choices in my head for Ramsey, since my visualization of him tends to change a lot from scene to scene. Any of these guys above could do, I guess. I’m just hoping whoever they cast does as good a job of making Ramsey the Joffrey 2.0 of the series. It’s probably a tall order making TV Ramsey top Jack Gleeson’s brilliantly evil take on everyone’s least favorite Lanister, but I feel like they need to try.

    Are we 100% certain they haven’t already cast the Bastard of Bolten? Not that I’m questioning the reliability of Winteriscoming.net’s little birds, but is there even the slightest possibility they sneaked in the casting of Ramsey without anyone finding out? I mean, it doesn’t seem plausible, but why else would they mention him in the most recent episode if they’re not introducing him until Season 3? And how is that even possible, given the outcome of Book 2?

  • Cillian Murphy is Ramsey. Sadly I was almost always wrong about guessing who might get the part ;)!

  • serjammy: but why else would they mention him in the most recent episode if they’re not introducing him until Season 3? And how is that even possible, given the outcome of Book 2?

    He can just turn up with a sack on his head in Ep10 just like JH did in season 1. Well not a sack but a helmet works just as well.

  • I know everyone’s excited about Ramsay…

    …but am I the only one who feels a little afraid? The fact that TV Ramsay exists out there somewhere, and that he’s coming to Winterfell… (shudder). The stuff of nightmares.

  • At first I thought Michael Pitt was a miscast for Broadwalk Empire….but I made a 180 turn in the 2nd Season. He would be a great choice for sure….not even counting on the oooooowwww THIS guy effect it could have.

  • Judging solely by the pics above, the actor who looks most likely to impersonate a stinky guy and flay someone’s face is …. Iwan Rheon!

  • Lex,

    I feel you, but still. Considering the book-ignorant viewers have turned Joffrey into public enemy #1, isn’t it just delicious to think how they’ll react to the Bastard of Bolton?

  • No Michael Pitt, please. Let’s just say I’m looking forward to BE, Season 3, now that I’ve seen the end of season two.

  • How did Michael Pitt not make this list? I really think he has a better shot than anyone on there.

  • timpostor:
    I like two other candidates though I think Rheon would be the best and most financially feasible option of from above…

    This actor/singer Ben Drew who was a big ol’ prick in “Harry Brown”:
    http://static.nme.com/images/gallery/2012PlanB02BritAwardsPA210212.jpg

    Neil Maskell from Kill List:
    http://www.cinefamily.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/killlist_newsite12.jpg

    totally with you on Ben Drew (plan b)…he’s a pretty good actor aswell…and he’s good at being a dick

  • Dave,

    Tyrion is a dwarf, and there’s not a lot of good actors available for that role.

    Drogo isn’t supposed to speak the common tongue anyways.

    Ramsay on the other hand is, and he’s not a dwarf, so why cast an American when there’s plenty of UK actors out there?

  • wasn’t michael pitt fired from BE because he was being an ass on a set or something? unlikely they gonna get him after that.

  • For me Cillian Murphy would be the perfest Ramsay. Anyone seen him in Red Eye? A so so movie but he was scary as hell in that one. However the chances of him being cast are indeed rather slim. Still it’s nice to dream about. Also I love Amok’s artwork they almost always match how I picture the characters.

  • Lex: Disagree, 100%. Yes, Amok’s versions are a little cartoony… but they’re also fairly accurate to the book descriptions. And many of the casting choices DO look a LOT like the Amok versions.

    While Amok’s drawings of the people are accurate to the book – they are also exaggerated, IMO. Part of that is GRRM’s descriptions, but he also amps them up 150% into cartoonish territory. Case in point: Daario: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/File:Daario_Naharis.jpg
    (sure he has blue-dyed hair, but is it ELECTRIC BLUE? And he has/wears gold, but 100% gold?)

    The HBO show is thankfully going for more realistic toned down versions of the characters, which is similar to how I saw them in my mind when reading. I’m sure they will find someone creepy for Ramsay. Just not the literal description that GRRM lays out in the books – but someone who can portray/act out an equal menace.

  • EDIT: Just to clarify – I’m not dissing Amok’s considerable art talent, and the huge effort he put into drawing/painting all the ASOIAF characters. Not at all. I just wish he had used a different more realistic character depictions.

  • I choose to bring back Harry Lloyd. I don’t care he’s Viserys. He’s Awesome and i want him back!! ;D
    Son of Mine!!!

  • I’ve always pictured Ramsay looking sort of like Dim from Clockwork Orange; not exactly fat, per se, but pudgy, with big cheeks, and fat, wormy lips (as described in the books).

    Obviously the dude who played Dim is far too old for the role now, but if there’s a current actor out there who looks like that, he’d be perfect.

    Whoever is cast, he should definitely be bigger and more imposing than Jon Snow.

    From A Wiki of Ice & Fire:

    Ramsay, though savage in battle, was never officially taught at arms. His tutor in martial prowess was Reek, his serving man, who had never received any sword training himself. Ramsay’s swordsmanship style is vicious and highly aggressive, wielding his sword as if it were a butcher’s cleaver.

    Swords are pretty heavy, so you’ve got to have some real strength to wield one like a cleaver.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents. I don’t have a name for you though. So probably not much help.

  • I think Cillian Murphy would be my choice. Too good looking, but perfect eyes. I never liked Ramsay Bolton, entirely too creepy. I skimmed everything to do with him. Sometimes skimmed a LOT. Maybe I will be surprised in the show because of it. Or else I’ll be pressing FF on my DVR when rhyming words start showing up!

  • don´t know the actor but Iwan Rheon´s gaze in that photo is quite disturbing. And he´s young enough to be Roose son I think.

  • I’m pretty surprised nobody’s brought up Crispin Glover. Talk about FREAKY! Drawback is that he may be too old for the role. Ah well.

  • NONE of the above. Ick to all of them. I don’t know who I’d cast but I do know it’s none of these wimps.

  • Hate to be a nitpicker but Misfits was on E4, not the BBC

    I’d personally love to see Iwan Rheon get the part.

  • Cillian Murphy is definitely NOT what I pictured, but he seems to be the fan favorite (which is somewhat surprising to me, being that Ramsay is described as looking nothing like a fashion model).

    Murphy is far too pretty. Is that really the guy people think of when they think of Ramsay “freaking” Bolton? The Dog Fancier? Why not Leo DiCaprio? Or Ryan Gosling?

    I mean, I know American Psycho was a popular movie, but do suave guys like that really creep you out? I think I’d creep him out. Ramsay needs to look the part, IMO. None of this Hollywood ugly BS.

  • jkb,

    This came out as a totally false. There are a ton of interviews where Terrence Winter says this is totally not true, and the Michael Pitt is one of the best actors he’s ever worked with.

  • Not so much a casting post as a Ramsay/Theon story arc post. I echo some of the concerns over just how much story there is to spread over potentially as many as four upcoming seasons for Ramsay & Theon. They’ve already essentially cut out most of Ramsay’s story from ACOK that could have taken place this season. I have to think he will infiltrate Winterfell as Reek in Season 3 (otherwise, why would Theon just let him in the castle unless they intend for him to simply take it by force). But, to what end? What would he do as Reek in Winterfell in Season 3 if the deaths of Bran and Rickon have already been faked in Season 2 (which we have every indication will happen during the next 4 episodes).

    I guess he could warn of the approach of men from the Dreadfort to gain Theon’s trust and then promise that he could raise men of his own and bring them to Theon’s aid. But, that seems like pretty paltry material to scatter over an entire season. Then, is it just two seasons subsequent seasons with his torturing of Theon before the story lines from ADWD pick up late in Season 5 or in Season 6?

    I think it’s kind of risky to have Alfie Allen sit out an entire season, but, barring that, I’m not sure where his story goes unless they create a bunch of filler material to stretch it out.

  • Planet-Ex,

    Clearly Nathan Explosion is the only choice to play Ramsay. Not only does he look the part… but he is certainly brutal enough ;)

  • Iwan Rheon is actually an awesome suggestion that I hadnt thought of before (and Ramsay is one of my favorite characters, so I’ve spent way too much time thinking about this). However… I don’t think he could pull off the aura of authority that Ramsay has…he was so meek on misfits…

  • DavidBC:
    How did Michael Pitt not make this list? I really think he has a better shot than anyone on there.

    While Michael Pitt has been touted by many fans and I agree he would be good for the role, he’s American which unfortunately means his chances are slim to none.

  • Varamyr Fourskins,

    Ramsay’s creep factor lies in the fact that he’s a psychotic, serial killing rapist with a vicious streak of wanton treachery and brutality, and a penchant for torture and flaying people alive.

    His physical appearance, on the other hand, isn’t ever really described that negatively. We only see him through the eyes of Theon, and the worst he can think of Lord Ramsay is that he’s a little “fleshy.”

  • CT Wahoo,

    I think D&D are going to write a lot of stuff from the Roose/Ramsay perspective that happened offscreen in Storm of Swords… They have already made Roose more of the evil mastermind by having him be responsible for Ramsay’s seige of Winterfell… I also think we’ll get to see the flaying of Theon in real time, and I think Ramsay’s content from ADWD will be spread throughout the next few seasons…

  • I always imagined Matt Berry from IT Crowd as Ramsay Bolton. It may be because I watched all of IT Crowd while reading A Song of Ice and Fire. But it still really works.

  • If we are having fun with all these unrealistic actor choices how about Vincent Kathiser from Mad Men? He has the eyes. Would love to hear: “Hells Bells Theon!”.

  • The first time I saw Dan Stevens I associated him with Ramsay…now I can’t shake him off =/

  • I just don’t want it to be Cillian Murphy because I like him and don’t want to hate him. I’d say the best casting has less to do with the book now, though, and more with someone who can convincingly be a son of the actor playing Roose. I’d rather have continuity within the show ‘verse than have a book!accurate Ramsey who looks nothing like his on-screen dad.

    Kind of like on The Tudors, where child and teen Elizabeth looked like good casting based on history, but nothing like either on-screen parent. But that’s just my preference.

  • None of those listed resemble my mental image of Ramsay, but they got me thinking about him in a different light and now I find myself wondering how Simon Woods hasn’t been mentioned yet.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1373034/

    Anybody who watched Rome loves this guy.

  • Cillian Murphy COULD do it, because I’ve seen him be really creepy in other films. But he looks like a Botticelli angel, which is pretty much the antithesis of what I think Ramsay is supposed to be. That said, they’ve done great work with makeup on this show, so if they did cast him, I’d have faith. All that said, I think he’s far too famous/expensive.

    Rami Malek was suggested by dizzy_34 up above, and I think he would be great. He’s slightly more Middle-Eastern looking but I think he could still pass as a Northerner. He showed his skills in the Pacific and can really come across as creepy, so I would love to see what he could do with this character. He’s American, but look at what great linguistic work he did in Pacific; I couldn’t understand him 80% of the time!

    Tom Hiddleston (suggested by Pau Soriano) could also do a good job. He has a friendly look, but I think he’s a good actor so I wouldn’t worry about it. He has a very expressive brow, which I think could bring a lot to the character.

    Michael Pitt, despite being American, would be the perfect Ramsay Snow in my opinion. He has all the necessary characteristics – the pale eyes, the fleshy face, the puffy lips. He’s shown what he can do as an actor, and he’s played a psychopath. Yes he is American, but I hope that he wouldn’t be discredited immediately because of that if he could prove he could do the appropriate accent. However, I unfortunately think he’s too famous/too expensive.

    If they’re definitely going for an “unknown,” which I think they’ll do, this Iwan Rheon kid has the right look. I thought he was a lot younger than he is; Wikipedia says he’s 26, but he looks only maybe 20-21. I’m not sure how old they’ll make Ramsay. He could be a bit older than Theon, as I always imagined. Or maybe they’ll keep him in the same age range, and if they do that, they can really play up what a spoiled bastard (no pun intended) he is!

  • Iwan Rheon has that strange intensity to his eyes that Bolton has. Add some hair & the right makeup, and you have the Bastard of Bolton.

  • I know this is an incredibly long shot, but I somewhat picture Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy) for Ramsay if they wanna go with somewhat of a name recognition, who can pull off hateful characters. More Harry Potter actors in this show would be really cool. I always thought Jason Isaacs would be a perfect addition to the GOT cast

    A man hopes

  • Now with the official casting thread , it seems I must repeat my self…IWAN RHEON ALL THE WAY !!!… Though I’d be happy with any of the other choices if he doesn’t get it !

  • Angel: I have a big suspicion that Ramsay is already in Winterfell. Dagmer

    Yes the Iron Islanders would have no problem with a Northern Bastard turning up one day and claiming to be First Mate on one of their ships.

  • Probably not gonna happen since I think someone told me he’s busy, but I throw my hat in for Nicholas Hoult. I guess he’s kinda pretty-boyish, but I’m not the right person to tell you whether or not he is, so who knows.

    http://i.imgur.com/uro8w.jpg

    He’s probably best known, I think, as the highly arrogant and sociopathic Tony Stonem from the UK edition of Skins. Tony was the main character who, for those of you who’ve never seen the show, no one liked or had sympathy for until he got hit by a bus and was completely socially and physically annihilated in all aspects of his life. He once, for example, tried to get his ex-girlfriend Michelle back to him by sending fake incestuous pictures of Michelle’s boyfriend and the boyfriend’s sister to Michelle’s phone. It didn’t work, but the fact that a sixteen-year-old kid tried it at all is pretty fucked up, IMO.

    So Hoult, I think, could totally pull Ramsay off.

  • I think a great choice would be Gaspard Ulliel. But unfortunately, he has a natural French accent, and I’m not sure if he can pull off an acceptable British accent.

  • Two Misfits graduates!

    Why Season 3 though? Reek still has time to make an appearance in the last four eps. Winterfell’s story is not over yet.

  • Louisa,

    I think we would have heard about the casting by now, and if he’s played by an unnamed extra (to be cast in the next season, for example) then it still stands.

  • ThePinkDragon:
    Probably not gonna happen since I think someone told me he’s busy, but I throw my hat in for Nicholas Hoult. I guess he’s kinda pretty-boyish, but I’m not the right person to tell you whether or not he is, so who knows.

    http://i.imgur.com/uro8w.jpg

    He’s probably best known, I think, as the highly arrogant and sociopathic Tony Stonem from the UK edition of Skins. Tony was the main character who, for those of you who’ve never seen the show, no one liked or had sympathy for until he got hit by a bus and was completely socially and physically annihilated in all aspects of his life. He once, for example, tried to get his ex-girlfriend Michelle back to him by sending fake incestuous pictures of Michelle’s boyfriend and the boyfriend’s sister to Michelle’s phone. It didn’t work, but the fact that a sixteen-year-old kid tried it at all is pretty fucked up, IMO.

    So Hoult, I think, could totally pull Ramsay off.

    Could work!

  • As for the Ramsay/Dagmer thing, I think the theory got a little out of control. I’m pretty sure the first person who suggested it meant that Dagmer was taking Ramsay’s role this season, not that Dagmer is ACTUALLY Ramsay Snow/Bolton. Some of y’all are acting like Rams literally showed up on the Iron Islands, immersed himself in the culture and got instantly accepted to the highest degree, which is possible, but far-fetched, and not what I think most people are trying to say about the whole thing.

  • I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Sean Harris would be the perfect Ramsay.

  • I’ve loved Cillian since 28 days later, I would love him as Ramsay, But Idk how likely it is. I could maybe see Micheal Pitt, but can he do an accent?

  • ThePinkDragon: As for the Ramsay/Dagmer thing, I think the theory got a little out of control. I’m pretty sure the first person who suggested it meant that Dagmer was taking Ramsay’s role this season, not that Dagmer is ACTUALLY Ramsay Snow/Bolton. Some of y’all are acting like Rams literally showed up on the Iron Islands, immersed himself in the culture and got instantly accepted to the highest degree, which is possible, but far-fetched, and not what I think most people are trying to say about the whole thing.

    Well I think the reasoning is that noone else has actually had any interaction with Dagmer on the show. He could have been lying for all anybody knows. ITs far fetched BUT he isn’t really acting like the dagmer in the book and in fact has been kind of sinister. The other reason is wasn’t Dagmer a pretty small part in the book, while the actor they got for him seems more accomplished than would be gotten for a bit part.

    Anyway, is there anyone else that description “extreme looking 20-30 year old” could describe. WE don’t know for sure that its for Ramsey.

  • #1
    My ideal Ramsay would be Jonathan Rhys Meyers. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001667/
    He can do ruthless well, he’s a decent actor, and doesn’t seem to have anything in the works currently. I suppose he is a semi-big name since he has been in some hollywood movies and was the lead in the Tudors, but so was Natalie Dormer and they got her. He also fits the description of Ramsay pretty well, he’s kind of stocky, and has the face/eyes.
    #2
    I think Iwan Rheon could do a good job, for all the reasons previously stated.
    #3
    Domhall Gleeson
    If he could dye his hair black he would certainly look the part facially, and he’s pretty unknown as well.

  • Iwan Rheon has been my pick for Ramsay for a long time. He’d be fantastic in the part, he does creepy so well and he looks fairly close to the description. More in shape, true, but hey they don’t cast that many ugly people on HBO.

  • The actor playing Dagmer is almost 43, and looks it too. Ramsay needs to look closer to Theon, he is afterall the son of Roose not the brother of Roose.
    So all those book Nazis wanting Reek to be with Theon at WF atm just like in the books, even though in spirit in the form of Dagmer, you have the books.

  • João Amaral:
    I choose to bring back Harry Lloyd. I don’t care he’s Viserys. He’s Awesome and i want him back!! ;D
    Son of Mine!!!

    Man, Harry Lloyd would have been phenomenal had he not already been Viserys!

  • Rheon is a very strong choice. Cillian Murphy would be good too, but as WiC pointed out he’s a very busy actor in Hollywood.

    Just as an aside:

    R.I.P. Maurice Sendak (June 20, 1928 – May 8, 2012)

  • Mrs. H’ghar:
    SerCountryFriedStreak,
    Brilliant! He has the round face (that “might go to fat in his old age”) and light eyes…they could give him brown hair and he’d nail it for sure.

    Another reason to consider Pottter vets like Radcliffe and Grint: THIS SHOW COSTS $7 MILLION AN EPISODE!!!
    forget DVD sales, forget foreign rights, this show needs ratings press everything to overcome that pricetag

  • I’d like to see someone I’ve never heard of in the role. Someone I don’t associate with any particular previous role. Someone who IS Ramsay Bolton and brings the character to life. Oh yeah, the casting people are already on that.

    I really don’t understand these casting predictions. It’s obvious nearly all of the actors cast so far are unknowns or not closely associated with a similar type of role. That sort of thing is distracting for the audience and confuses the previous role with the present one. I’m pretty happy with all of the casting so far so I’ll just wait until the actual actor is announced.

  • I’ve only seen Rheon a handful of times, but I don’t think he can pull of Ramsay’s fury. Roose is really the cold, icy one. Ramsay does that occasionally, but for the most part, he’s vicious and angry, with little control over his rage. I don’t know, though. I’ve only seen bits of Misfits.

  • Katie:
    Cillian Murphy would be peeeeerfect. Hopefully Game of Thrones has become high profile enough to make it worth his while, he’d be brilliant for this.

    I’m with you. He’s the only person I could ever see in the part when I was reading the books. Which is weird because I have a bit of a crush on him so you’d think I would not want him to play such an awful character! But I really think he’d be perfect. He even looks like the guy playing Roose.

  • SeVv:
    I like Rheon just because it rhymes with Theon^^

    This had me LOLing.

    For my vote, of the four profiled, Domhnall Gleeson comes closest to my mental picture for the looks, but I think Cillian Murphy would be amazing (and is the only one I’ve seen before). I mean, forget Hollywood, this is GoT we’re talking about!

    One can hope!

  • aamadis:
    I’d like to see someone I’ve never heard of in the role. Someone I don’t associate with any particular previous role. Someone who IS Ramsay Bolton and brings the character to life. Oh yeah, the castingpeople are already on that.

    I really don’t understand these casting predictions. It’s obvious nearly all of the actors cast so far are unknowns or not closely associated with a similar type of role. That sort of thing is distracting for the audience and confuses the previous role with the present one. I’m pretty happy with all of the casting so far so I’ll just wait until the actual actor is announced.

    It’s just a game we’ve been playing for several years now, here and elsewhere. A sort of what-if scenario which occasionally comes out true. The fans wanted Peter Dinklage for Tyrion practically before there was even a show to cast. Gwen Christie was the overwhelming favorite for a part she is now rocking.

    I agree that previously little-known actors are great because we don’t end up with Hugo Weaving Syndrome (a medical condition in which the viewer keeps expecting Elrond to call a certain hobbit Mr. Anderson instead of Frodo). And we’ve seen some amazing performances from newcomers in this series. It is probable that we will continue to see relatively unknown actors in most parts. But we will also still get a fair share of well-known actors. Either way, trying to guess is just a fun way to pass the time between episodes. It keeps us sane, as it kept us sane (well, OK, somewhat sane) during the long wait for the first season.

  • Langkard: R.I.P. Maurice Sendak (June 20, 1928 – May 8, 2012)

    oh, I should make a double “goodbye” toast today then. So sad. Only a few days ago I saw the documentary Spike Jones made about him.
    One for Sendak. One for Caloi.

  • andrea,

    Caloi the comic artist from Argentina? He was the only Caloi I could find on the internet. I’m not familiar with the name. Did he pass away as well? I can find nothing.

    Edit: Ah, I did find one article finally. The news hasn’t filtered north yet. Carlos Loiseau passed away today. So I’ll add R.I.P. Caloi. He isn’t known well in the USA. I like his style of cartoon. I’m going to look for some translations of his humor into English.

  • Morrigan:
    Also, if Ramsay isn’t cast for S2, why would he be cast for S3? He doesn’t appear anywhere in book 3, he’s only in ADWD. He’d have to delayed til season 4 or even 5 (especially if ASoS is split into two seasons)…

    In the latest episode of the show Roose says he’s going to send his bastard son from the Dreadfort to reclaim Winterfell.

    The showrunners also said they were delaying introducing some of the Clash of Kings characters until season 3.

    Everything points to Theon and Ramsay’s storyline being expanded and incorporated into seasons 3-4.

  • I had a very difficult time picturing Ramsay in my head while reading, so I just replaced him with Ledger’s Joker.

    On ADWD book-to-screen translation: do you guys think that the letter reading immediately followed by a stabbing will make good television?

  • Langkard,

    Yes, he´s dead (this morning). It´s very sad, he was such a talented, interesting and funny man.
    I will miss his TV show about animation (not the industry, but authors from all over the world).

    ” I’m going to look for some translations of his humor into English.”
    oh I don´t know, maybe his humor is too autochthonous? Well, not all I think.
    RIP both.

  • Meg:
    I had a very difficult time picturing Ramsay in my head while reading, so I just replaced him with Ledger’s Joker.

    On ADWD book-to-screen translation: do you guys think that the letter reading immediately followed by a stabbing will make good television?

    BTW I also thought of Ledger

  • Lina,

    Love the idea of Tom Hiddleston but I think after this last weekend his star has gotten a little to big for HBO. :) At least right now….

  • Danielle:
    Lina,

    Love the idea of Tom Hiddleston but I think after this last weekend his star has gotten a little to big for HBO. :) At least right now….

    He’s a very busy man. He’s filming Thor 2, reprising his role as Loki. He’s currently in the middle of filming as the lead of Henry in the upcoming Shakespearean (a shout out here to all my fellow Oxfordians) trilogy Henry IV: Part 1, Henry IV: part 2 and Henry V. (Iain Glen is in the Henry IV: Part 2 also, by the way, as The Earl of Warwick). Most importantly, he’s the lead in the upcoming film, Black Wings Has My Angel which is set to begin filming in September, exactly the same time as GOT Season 3 will be filming. So, as much as he’d be great, he’s not available.

  • andrea:

    ” I’m going to look for some translations of his humor into English.”
    oh I don´t know, maybe his humor is too autochthonous? Well, not all I think.
    RIP both.

    I like things which don’t easily translate to other languages or locales. Best way to learn about other places. My Spanish isn’t up to the task, however; so I’d have to rely upon translations. You may be right, though.

  • “Those that don’t give good sport don’t get too come back as bit**es”

    Whoever remembers the exact quote from A Dance with Dragons wins a cookie!

  • Morrigan:
    They’re not gonna cast an American actor for Ramsay, FFS… Dinklage and Momoa were exceptions. -_-

    Can you confirm that as inside knowledge , or is this your hunch?

  • panda: Can you confirm that as inside knowledge , or is this your hunch?

    There’s a difficulty with Equity. While Equity (formerly British Actor’s Equity Association) is the trade union for actors in the UK, in the USA, the equivalent stage trade union is the Actors’ Equity Association and the screen actors union is the newly merged SAG-AFTRA. The British version is no longer a closed shop (i.e. an actor no longer has to be in the union in order to work in the UK); however, both the American and British Equity unions and SAG-AFTRA are all members of the FIA and thus have a working agreement, via their membership in the international version – the FIA. A British union actor must have the approval of the American trade unions to work in the USA and an American actor must have the approval of the British Equity to work in the UK (of which Northern Ireland, where most of the filming is done, is a part). Unless, of course, the actor is a member of unions on both sides of the Atlantic. This doesn’t have the force of law, but it is very much a rule within the respective unions. And I guarantee you that most British and American actors are members of one or the other or both or all three (in the case of the different stage versus screen American guilds).

    The production of GOT, being filmed mostly in the UK, almost surely has a contract with the British Equity. So the rules are going to be in place.

  • I think Elijah Wood would make a splendid Ramsay. Anyone who doubts his ability to act the madman should look no further than his role in Sin City. It is known.

    And on that note, I have to put forward the names of Jason Isaacs as Rhaegar Targaryen and of Liv Tyler as Lyanna Stark. A man can but hope, after all.

  • Slightly off-topic (okay, totally off-topic), but when I think of a casting call that asks for someone 20-30 and extreme-looking, I think of Vargo Hoat, not the Bastard of Bolton. Am I alone in this?

    Maybe I just want my Vargo Hoat.

  • Hi-Fi,

    Oh, nice! Thanks for the link. Been waiting for that interview since it was announced during the interview last week with Gemma Whelan.

  • Cillian Murphy is my first choice and I after picturing him in the role I hardly can see anyone else. However, there are a number of actors who may not look quite as perfect, but could do the role well and still look pretty close.

    Firstly Eddie Redmayne. He has such an odd look and has the lips for sure as well as the acting chops.
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BgVDJtKPIBc/Tmk_eI-ydQI/AAAAAAAAgF8/M3ckjV2VDY4/s1600/eddie+redmayne+peter+lindbergh+karl+templer+interview+magazine%252C+september+2011+1.jpg

    Another actor I have not seen mentioned much is Tom Sturridge. He has an oddness about him, pale eyes and a somewhat similar look to Michael McElhatton who plays Roose now.

    http://www.company.co.uk/cm/companyuk/images/Jv/or_c4dc5ca7124525100614071.jpg
    http://www.fansshare.com/celebrity/photos/tomsturridge/tom-sturridge-211728481.jpg

    I had not heard of Domhnall Gleeson (or realized I had watched him) until Season 2 casting and Ramsay was being discussed, but I quite like his look for the role!

  • jkb,

    Seven’s save us. Have you never The Misfits. I suggest you get on it. And after watching the first series you will definetly approve of Iwan Rheon as Ramsay
    Coltaine777,

    Amen to that brother. Anyone who has watched the misfits will totally agree with us. Iwan Rheon all the fucking way

  • Ella:
    I think Elijah Wood would make a splendid Ramsay. Anyone who doubts his ability to act the madman should look no further than his role in Sin City. It is known.

    And on that note, I have to put forward the names of Jason Isaacs as Rhaegar Targaryen and of Liv Tyler as Lyanna Stark. A man can but hope, after all.

    Not sure about Jason Isaacs, but the other 2 are certainly feasible. A woman can hope too.

  • Ella:
    I think Elijah Wood would make a splendid Ramsay. Anyone who doubts his ability to act the madman should look no further than his role in Sin City. It is known.

    Elijah Wood is unavailable for the same reason that Tom Hiddleston is unavailable. Wood is also in Black Wings Has My Angel along with Anna Paquin. The filming for that has been announced as starting in September, same time as filming for GOT. Wood will also be filming Grand Piano this Summer, just before he heads off to do the film with Hiddleston.

  • Mrs. H’ghar: Not sure about Jason Isaacs, but the other 2 are certainly feasible. A woman can hope too.

    Jason Isaacs is a hell of an actor…and even though I enjoy Awake, I’m fairly certain it won’t be around much longer (if it hasn’t been cancelled already). I’ve never been a fan of Liv Tyler…she was alright in LoTR, but for Lyanna, unfortunately, I don’t see it.

    I love Elijah just as much as the next Smeagol, but does he have the gravitas for Ramsay? Sure, he was great in Sin City, but we need to remember that it was just him grinning like a psycho and jumping around with the help of CGI…he never spoke. Yes, obviously, we’ve heard him speak in other roles…but nothing overtly evil like his role as Kevin. Just can’t see him pulling it off.

    As a side to Mrs. H’ghar, this Onion Knight does not mean to disrespect a lady and incur the wrath of her beloved by disagreeing!

  • Morrigan:
    Also, if Ramsay isn’t cast for S2, why would he be cast for S3? He doesn’t appear anywhere in book 3, he’s only in ADWD. He’d have to delayed til season 4 or even 5 (especially if ASoS is split into two seasons)…

    Given the extra space in season three due to the adaptation of ASoS being split into two seasons, we may get some additional scenes. It’d be a shame to miss a character like Theon for two to three seasons. They may be “new” scenes, or they may be adapted from the reflections/flashbacks we’re given.

  • Icebird:
    How about Sam Rockwell – he may be a little old but I’m sure he could do creepy very well.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjProtBm4Dc

    I saw someone suggested Andy Serkis…If Andy Serkis did ANYTHING on Game of Thrones I would be pleased.:D

    I like Sam Rockwell…brilliant in Choke! However, like you said, he might be a tad too old. I also think his creep factor hinges on eccentric and borderline humor….I’m not saying he’s not creepy in the Green Mile, but his backwoods retard deal wouldn’t have the same appeal for GoT. More underlying menace and rage is needed.

  • Ismael Isak,

    It’s his MISFITS role that also has me convinced he’s perfect for the part ..man that’s a twisted show…but everyone is leaving, including Lauren Socha (kelly) ..not sure how good that show will be with so many key players absent for season 4…

  • Jeremy:
    Dutch actor Tygo Gernandt

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0314611/

    Now that you mention it, HE could be awesome as well.. They’ve shown they’re not averse to casting non-British / American actors and having seen him in Dutch tv shows and films for a long time has made me sure of one thing: he can do creepy / crazy exploding into rage very well..

    I’m not sure if he’s in the right age / look category though..

    Here’s his showreel on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj1Lgd5QQQ

  • I think people are more vicious about the casting of Ramsay than they are about the Reeds, Tullys, Targaryen eyes and NCW’s nose combined! Sheesh!
    Cillian Murphy has the Ramsay look, and we all know he can play a psycho to perfection, but the I doubt the budget has room for him. My vote is with Iwan Rheon or Andrew Scott, simply because, having seen them in Misfits and Sherlock respectively, damn could those boys make the Bastard of Bolton come to life in a truly terrifying, disturbing way. I lean more towards Iwan, because he fits the character description more- pale, pale eyes, a stockiness that could translate to ‘fleshiness’. Also, unusual looks. He’s possibly going to be too busy touring- he’s an indie singer/songwriter with a decent album to his name- but Game of Thrones would be worth postponing that for!

  • (okay, maybe not quite that bad, but it’s a little harsh to be calling each other idiots over what the other finds attractive.)

  • I can’t get Pellegrino’s role as Jacob on Lost, nor his hitman-stoner from Mulholland Drive out of my head. I’m not sure he’d do so well.

    If I was going to toss out one young actor who can play troubled creep show all by himself I would suggest Ben Foster.

  • If they haven’t cast Ramsay already I don’t think they wil till a later season.
    That said, maybe “male 20-30, but weird and extreme looking.” means we will still be getting some bloody mummers for the kingslayers unfortunate loss of a certain part

  • jarnomiedema: Now that you mention it, HE could be awesome as well.. They’ve shown they’re not averse to casting non-British / American actors and having seen him in Dutch tv shows and films for a long time has made me sure of one thing: he can do creepy / crazy exploding into rage very well..

    I’m not sure if he’s in the right age / look category though..

    Here’s his showreel on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj1Lgd5QQQ

    Tygo Gernandt has always been how I pictured Vargo Hoat, but than a bit older.
    And he was also in Black Death BTW

  • 1. not only is Benedict Cumberbatch in the Hobbit, but he’s busy working on the next Star Trek film currently. There were photos of him with Zach Quinto, Simon Pegg and Chris Pine hanging out at a San Francisco area Hooters (seriously) over the weekend. Between that and Sherlock, he won’t have time to be in any thing else of GoT magnitude.

    2. Domhnall Gleeson’s actually an amazing actor. I highly recommend the film “When Harvey met Bob” which is all about how the Live Aid concerts were put together. He plays Bob Geldof. He’s also Bill Weasley in the last 2 Potter films, although he doesn’t get to do that much.

    He’s actually very attractive and very skinny, so I can’t see him as Ramsay, tbh. If he looked more like his father (Brendan Gleeson), he’d be great, but he’s as thin as a rail.

    3. Hiddleston’s going to be busy with Thor 2 along with four other films he’s shooting in the next year.

  • Right so we are finally getting out Ramsay snow/reek
    So I just have to say thing please give me at least one of the Reeds to at least help Bran with his little crush later.
    prepares for several people to shout back saying who cares about the Reeds

  • Cillian Murphy would be a dream cast. but the problem with dreams is that they almost never come true.
    So, out of the 3 others, counting out Cillian, I’d go with Domnhall.

  • I always imagined Matt Berry from IT Crowd as Ramsay Bolton. It may be because I watched all of IT Crowd while reading A Song of Ice and Fire. But it still really works.

    Strangely I had a dream about Matt Berry playing Tom O’Sevens but singing “One track lover” around The Riverlands so I like how your mind thinks!

    So Iwan seems to have the majority vote thus far. Somebody send a Raven to Ms Gold and Kings Landing Butler of our decision please. Seriously, I wouldn’t be surprised if this casting was done a while ago. These things are often sewn up much earlier than we think and perhaps the casting call for the extreme looking guy is for someone else as has been suspected.

  • aamadis:

    I really don’t understand these casting predictions. It’s obvious nearly all of the actors cast so far are unknowns or not closely associated with a similar type of role. That sort of thing is distracting for the audience and confuses the previous role with the present one.

    THIS, a million times.

    Out of the actors mentioned in the main post, Iwan Rheon is the only one I haven’t seen yet, but he seems the best choice.
    Andrew Scott would be brilliant, but this is a part way to similar to what he played in Sherlock, so that may not be such a smart move.

    My personal choice would be Rafe Spall, but – as aamadis said – I’m also looking forward to seeing new faces.

    These are some great suggestions too:

    David T:
    Some other suggestions:
    Tom Payne
    Aaron Johnson
    Bill Skarsgård

  • Just a random thought, I haven’t read book 5 in a while so I’m a little rusty on details but didn’t Theon talk about trying to escape with a girl called Kyra, and then describe her horrible fate in one of his DWD chapters? Something like this could be pretty good onscreen, and would also be an opportunity to introduce Ramsay’s tradition for naming his new dogs

  • CT Wahoo,

    One way in which they could work it out is by bringing in one or both Reeds to Winterfell too late and it is them that bear the brunt of theon getting nasty with Reek/Ramsay then they escape once whoever is in has a greendream about the where abouts of team Bran and co. Thoughts people

  • Icy Fingers,

    Yes, he also

    Sends Robb some of Theon’s skin in A Storm of Swords, so I suspect we’ll get to see more of both Theon and Ramsey in Season 3 than expected.

  • Icy Fingers:
    Just a random thought, I haven’t read book 5 in a while so I’m a little rusty on details but didn’t Theon talk about trying to escape with a girl called Kyra, and then describe her horrible fate in one of his DWD chapters? Something like this could be pretty good onscreen, and would also be an opportunity to introduce Ramsay’s tradition for naming his new dogs

    I just realised that my grandparents had a hunting dog named Kyra. It never dawned to me while reading the books, but now it’s creepy as hell.

  • Tomer Segal: Cillian Murphy would be a dream cast. but the problem with dreams is that they almost never come true.So, out of the 3 others, counting out Cillian, I’d go with Domnhall.

    Nina Gold is no Ordinary Woman, her Dreams come true.

  • KG,

    Of course not. Joffrey had rather large and plump lips too, but he was never considered ugly; in fact, it was a point in his favour before the women who describe him grew to hate him.

    Either way, I doubt “plump lips” will be part of the casting criteria. Jack Gleeson sure as hell wasn’t dismissed due to a lack of them.

  • For anyone interested Robert Sheehan was in a really good series lately with Aiden Gillen as well as Brian Gleeson (Domhnall’s brother). It’s called Love/Hate. I don’t fancy Robert as much of an actor though, he seemed a bit stiff in that. I think either of the Gleeson brothers would do pretty well in this role. Both fairly good looking lads but well able to ugly up and great acting skills. Brian’s character is actually a bit of a psycho (drugged fueled) in this actually.

    Cillian Murphy would be great but I think he is a bit too big (fame wise) for the role. He’s also 35.

  • From the options being thrown out so far, I think Tom Payne, Iwan Rheon and Michael Pitt seem the best contenders. I am a big fan of Cillian Murphy and Tom Hiddleston and would love to see them in the show (and yeah, I think Cillian is the ideal Ramsay), but both are pretty big in Hollywood and I suspect they would be way too expensive to get as others have already mentioned.

  • Thanos,

    I so badly want this to happen. Sean Harris is one of my favorite actors, and unknown enough to join a show like GoT. His acting is absolutely amazing. Him as Beric would be my first pick as well, but I’ll gladly have him in any role as long as it means a good amount of screen time :)

    I e-mailed the agency (Troika) and told them I really hope Harris audition, but they’re probably already aware of it, plus Nina Gold has gotten him other roles in the past (Prometheus most recently). I haven’t watched Borgias myself, but I really hope it doesn’t mean that he can’t show up in GoT, being another channel and all.

    Sean Harris for Beric Dondarrion!

  • Cillian has an interesting look but he’s a bit old and there’s no way he would agree to do this, far too Hollywood.
    Iwan Rheon was creepy on Misfits, and he has those interesting eyes. Very similar to the actor who was cast for Bolton. He could work with him well and he is also young enough to be his son.
    Being of an age with Theon would be a good thing.
    I think he can also pull off the rage as well as the sadistic tendencies. And he isn’t too well known, so shouldn’t be too expensive. Please Nina Gold!

  • Carne,

    With Showtime commissioning The Borgias for a third season, the chances for Sean Harris to appear in GoT anytime soon look really slim, though I agree he’d make a very nice addition to the cast.

  • Some good, some bad, some “what?”

    Sometimes I think some of you guys are just naming semi-obscure to very obscure actors that haven’t been mentioned yet just for the sake of mentioning an obscure name.

    Terry O’Quinn would have made a good Roose Bolton, I think. Too late though.

    For Ramsay, I like the suggestion of Daniel Radcliffe to be honest. I could also see Tom Hardy.

  • Long time lurker, first time poster — I had to comment though, just to twenty-fourth the recommendation for Michael Pitt. I know he’s American, yaddah yaddah, but I was watching the Law & Order: SVU marathon yesterday and he popped up in an episode playing a sadistic teenage serial killer. Watching it, I was like, “O hai Ramsay, wuz up?”

    Nina Gold hasn’t let me down yet, and I’m sure the person picked will be brilliant in the role, but I’d love to see him bring Ramsay to life. Then I can spend all next season going, “Kill it! Kill it with FIRE!” every time he’s on screen. :)

  • Paichka,

    I -really- want to agree with the suggestion of Michael Pitt (I remember him from Murder by Numbers), I think he could pull it off but he just….doesn’t fit the role to me, for some reason. I don’t really know why. Too caricature maybe (I feel the same way about Cillian Murphy to be honest). I don’t know. Pass though. =(

  • Of these guys, Iwan Rheon gets my vote. I’ve seen other photos of him and he looks like he could play a psychopath very well.

    I think anyone clinging to Cillian Murphy is living in a dream world. Not only is Murphy much too money to take a supporting recurring role in a TV series, but I think he’d be miscast. I know I’m the minority opinion here, but Ramsay isn’t cold, like his dad. He’s a hot-blooded crazy man.

    BTW, I’m not hung up on the actor looking “fleshy” or having big lips as it’s clear that Nina Gold cares more about how well they can interpret the character than whether or not they look like they sprung straight from the page.

    PS: I always thought that if we really could get Joe Campo on the show, this is the role he should be given. I know he wanted to be Mance Rayder, but that wasn’t, and isn’t, going to happen, nor do I want it to. He’s not old enough, and quite frankly, I don’t think he expects to be given that role. I think that’s just the role he “auditioned” with, but he’ll take anything he’s given, assuming he’s given anything.

  • Cillian Murphy is right for the role! He looks like Ramsay, although he would need a wig. But if he is not available, I believe Iwan Rheon is the best actor from the others for the role…

  • Iwan Rheon would be a perfect Ramsay! I’m going to just keep saying so in the hope it comes true (worked for Brienne!)

  • Cillian Murphy is similar to how I envisioned Ramsay appearing, but in terms of demeanor I imagine Andrew Scott’s unnerving Moriarty. Jimmy Darmody is the only role of Michael Pitt’s that I have seen, but I found his performance boring, personally.

  • Weirdly I think it could be either Sheehan or Rheon. It all depends how they portray him on screen, as I feel either of their styles could do a good job with Ramsay. Thinking about it, if he did well in audition I would go for Sheehan, if only because I think he would do a great job of capturing the manic side of Ramsay. He would have to show he can also do the cold, dangerous, sinister side just as well though.

  • Carne,

    Thanks very much. Hopefully his agent is now on it!

    I don’t know that we should all send emails though- it’s enough to alert the agent to the role, if everyone who has posted that they like Rheon for the role sends an email, he’ll think we’re spammers!

  • WiC or someone should probably put in the post that this thread is a giant spoiler for non book readers.

    Think about it, all people know who haven’t read the books about Ramsay is that he’s Roose Bolton’s bastard, Roose being Robb’s loyal bannerman, and that he’s being sent to Winterfell to save it from Theon.

  • On a related note, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have Theon/Alfie sit out a lot of one of the next 2 seasons depending how they handle this story arc. It’s worked with Nikolaj/Jaime in similar circumstances, and I think they could even pull off having the audience believe he is dead. If his being alive as ‘Reek’ was revealed around the same time as Cat’s very different kind of survival (not sure if that would line up offhand) it would provide an interesting take on the theme of rebirth too.

  • No, please not Cillian Murphy! He’s waaay too good looking and I don’t want to be incredibly attracted to Ramsay (who IS described as ugly in DWD.. don’t have the book with me, but one of Theon’s early chapters says he’s not a handsome man, splotchy red skin, fleshy, etc.)

  • I know Cillian Murphy has played a handful of “villainous” roles, but to me, he’s just never been scary.

    Ramsay Bolton is scary.

    The Daniel Radcliffe suggestion blows my mind.

  • I also want to agree with someone who earlier suggested Ben Foster. Anyone who’s ever seen Alpha Dog and 30 Days of Night knows this guy can play both ends of the psycho spectrum (although those two roles aren’t necessarily clinically psychotic characters…but you get the idea).

  • LoF,

    I was actually thinking of Ben Foster, but I didn’t think it would be a viable suggestion, as he is American, and very well-known. He was especially creepy in Hostage, as well.

  • In my mind, this is what Ramsay looks like:

    http://tiny.cc/cju1dw

    Yes, I know he’s too old for the role, but the closer we can get to that look (and the further we can get away from Cillian Murphy), the better.

  • Though it’s probably a pipe-dream, I really think Cillian Murphy would be absolutely perfect for the role of Ramsey.

    ADWD spoilers below

    To me, Ramsey’s character could be exceptionally played by someone who may not be physically imposing. The actor needs to have the power and cruelty to convey exactly the type of monster that Ramsey Bolton can and will be. For example, thinking of Cillian Murphy giving Reek his “instructions” on how to deal with the newly wed “Arya Stark” is absolutely chilling.

  • Sand Dan Glokta:
    Though it’s probably a pipe-dream, I really think Cillian Murphy would be absolutely perfect for the role of Ramsey.

    ADWD spoilers below

    To me, Ramsey’s character could be exceptionally played by someone who may not be physically imposing. The actor needs to have the power and cruelty to convey exactly the type of monster that Ramsey Bolton can and will be.For example,thinking of Cillian Murphy givingReek his “instructions” on how to deal with the newly wed “Arya Stark” is absolutely chilling.

    *Ramsay

  • Katie:
    Cillian Murphy would be peeeeerfect. Hopefully Game of Thrones has become high profile enough to make it worth his while, he’d be brilliant for this.

    He would be ideal. The guy gives me the heebeejeebees. Don’t know if he does television, but maybe the awesomeness of GoT would be worth it to him.

  • I don’t view Murphy as too big an actor to do a tv series especially an HBO one, if HBO can lure in the likes of Dustin Hoffman I don’t see why Cillian would be out of reach. There’s also the Ireland factor, I am sure Murphy wouldn’t mind being able to work so near home.

  • When I look at the fanart at the top of this post, I see Tom Hardy. I love Iwan Rheon, think he’d be great, but when I read the books, it’s Tom Hardy I see as Ramsay.

    He’s getting a bit of a name for himself in films, and will possibly be a bigger name once the new Batman comes out, but it’s nice to dream that my head-canon Ramsay might become canon-canon.

  • Frankly Sean Bean is alot more high profile than Cillian Murphy, go down your local highstreet and ask people if they’ve ever heard of either actor and I guarantee you Sean Bean will be more known.

  • LoF,

    Wow! I never thought about Daniel Radcliff but this could be a great move for him. Doing something so different from Harry could be brilliant for his career if he can pull it off.

  • The Kingslayer,

    I think all of that would really appeal to him too. I’ve read interviews where he has talked about how he limits and chooses his projects carefully since his son was born so he’s not gone a lot (He’s a good Dad, how un-Ramsey like!) Like you, I think filming in Ireland and how limited his screen time would be favors them being able to get him. I mean they got Sean Bean for crying out loud!

  • No WAY: Robert Sheehan (too handsome, doesn’t fit the part, doesn’t look the part, too funny).
    Definitely not: Iwan Rheon (I don’t think he could pull it off), Andrew Scott (no pale eyes of the Boltons, plays a good Moriarty but seeing him as Ramsay is a bit extreme.)
    Maybe: Cillian Murphy, Domhnall Gleeson
    I’d be interested to see how Gleeson would play a terrible, slimy villain. Cillian I feel would be able to pull off the role although, I agree, he is way too handsome. However, none of the above fit the image I had of Ramsay in my head. I think they should bring in an unknown.

  • The Kingslayer:
    Frankly Sean Bean is alot more high profile than Cillian Murphy, go down your local highstreet and ask people if they’ve ever heard of either actor and I guarantee you Sean Bean will be more known.

    This is true, but Sean Bean was cast as the closest thing to a central character in Season 1.

    A season in which Ramsay Snow is the closest thing to a central character would be downright disturbing.

  • Over 300 comments and no one has yet mentioned the perfection that is David Oakes?

    His film/TV credits thus far:

    Trinity: Ross Bonham, genetically-warped, mentally-disturbed rower
    The Pillars of the Earth: William Hamleigh, matricidal rapist and murderer
    The Borgias: Juan Borgia, dim but vicious leader of the Papal armies, killer
    Truth or Dare: Justin, homophobic, sociopathic soldier/killer, possibly with PTSD

    The down side: At this point, it wouldn’t be much of a stretch for him.
    The up side: He’d be terrifyingly convincing.

  • Gemma Lewis,

    Seen him in Pillars and The Borgias, and I think is a terrible actor. Not convinced at all. Most of the suggestions are quite bad. I do like Gleeson though.

  • Apologies if this has already been covered but can anyone tell me if Arstan Whitebeard will be appearing this season ?? I feel an early introduction would greatly benefit a certain characters arc at the moment.

  • ANiceChianti,

    I find it ironic that you say you are surprised by the Radcliffe suggestion, considering your username.

    Anthony Hopkins isn’t a scary guy, but he convincingly plays one of the scariest and most iconic “villains” in movie history.

  • plakjecake: Tygo Gernandt has always been how I pictured Vargo Hoat, but than a bit older.
    And he was also in Black Death BTW

    Hadn’t thought of him, but he does have an instantly menacing look and does hair variety well. Loved the pink mohawk. Can he thpeak like Vargo? Or will that athpect be dithcarded from the cathting proceth?

  • Ella:
    I think Elijah Wood would make a splendid Ramsay. Anyone who doubts his ability to act the madman should look no further than his role in Sin City. It is known.

    And on that note, I have to put forward the names of Jason Isaacs as Rhaegar Targaryen and of Liv Tyler as Lyanna Stark. A man can but hope, after all.

    Well, someone is a Lord of the Rings fan. I mean, all those actors were in the Lord of the rings, weren’t they? I know Elijah Wood was Frodo, and Liv Tyler was Arwen, and I think Jason Isaacs was in it too.
    On that note, wouldn’t Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn) have made an AMAZING Stark? He has the coloring (grey eyes and black hair) and has already shown that he can be an incredible BADASS warrior and swordsman.

  • Scott Schaffer: This is true, but Sean Bean was cast as the closest thing to a central character in Season 1.

    A season in which Ramsay Snow is the closest thing to a central character would be downright disturbing.

    Gods be good, that would be terrifying!

  • The only actor from Lord Of The Rings(bar Bean) that I’d like on the show would be David Wenham, but I see him as Edmure Tully not Ramsay.

  • The Kingslayer:
    Apologies if this has already been covered but can anyone tell me if Arstan Whitebeard will be appearing this season ?? I feel an early introduction would greatly benefit a certain characters arc at the moment.

    agreed – I want him sooner than later

    also – I would think that bigger name actors would really only be attracted to roles that will be…cut short shall we say…so they can do other things and it isn’t so time consuming

  • The Kingslayer:
    The only actor from Lord Of The Rings(bar Bean) that I’d like on the show would be David Wenham, but I see him as Edmure Tully not Ramsay.

    OOOh that’s a good one!

  • The Kingslayer:
    The only actor from Lord Of The Rings(bar Bean) that I’d like on the show would be David Wenham, but I see him as Edmure Tully not Ramsay.

    I’d love to see him for Edmure! Faramir was one of my favorite characters in LOTR.

    I also think another LOTR alumni might be good for a GoT role. How ’bout Bernard Hill (King Theodan of Rohan) for Mace Tyrell?
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0384060/

  • The Daniel Radcliffe suggestions are mind blowing! If not Ramsay how about Quentyn Martell? (If the Dornish aren’t black anyway) Maybe Beric Dondarrion? He’s probably too young for that one. Though I wouldn’t have a problem seeing Beric from Season 1 continue.

  • If anything, David Wenham should have played Ned’s brother Benjen. Then people would have really gotten confused. :)

  • CT Wahoo:
    Not so much a casting post as a Ramsay/Theon story arc post.I echo some of the concerns over just how much story there is to spread over potentially as many as four upcoming seasons for Ramsay & Theon.They’ve already essentially cut out most of Ramsay’s story from ACOK that could have taken place this season.I have to think he will infiltrate Winterfell as Reek in Season 3 (otherwise, why would Theon just let him in the castle unless they intend for him to simply take it by force).But, to what end?What would he do as Reek in Winterfell in Season 3 if the deaths of Bran and Rickon have already been faked in Season 2 (which we have every indication will happen during the next 4 episodes).

    I guess he could warn of the approach of men from the Dreadfort to gain Theon’s trust and then promise that he could raise men of his own and bring them to Theon’s aid.But, that seems like pretty paltry material to scatter over an entire season.Then, is it just two seasons subsequent seasons with his torturing of Theon before the story lines from ADWD pick up late in Season 5 or in Season 6?

    I think it’s kind of risky to have Alfie Allen sit out an entire season, but, barring that, I’m not sure where his story goes unless they create a bunch of filler material to stretch it out.

    Agreed. Reek has to be the one who suggests murdering the kids. And the one who orders the massacre.

  • Ser WARZ,

    I heard someone suggest Mads Mikkelson for either Euron or Victarion, it would be amazing to have him in any role really. Dude is a great actor.

  • When I read this topic I immediately thought of, the already mentioned, Tygo Gernandt. He is exactly what they want. He can pass for 30 and is ‘extreme’ looking.
    I am surprised about the actors that WIC mentioned, looks like they were selected because of pale eyes. But that is not asked for in the casting description. These actors don’t have the ‘Extreme’ look.

  • Icebird:
    The Daniel Radcliffe suggestions are mind blowing!If not Ramsay how about Quentyn Martell?(If the Dornish aren’t black anyway)Maybe Beric Dondarrion?He’s probably too young for that one.Though I wouldn’t have a problem seeing Beric from Season 1 continue.

    Since when were the Dornish black? Summer Islanders are black. Dornish are olive-to-brown. Which is why Oded Fehr is a fan favourite for Oberyn Martell. Daniel Radcliffe is too pale and Northern European to be a Martell.

  • Eddie Redmayne for Ramsay.
    He would be my ultimate choice even before the top 4 Favourites. When I saw him in “Pillars of the Earth”, I thought “Christ if they ever do a GOT movie, There’s Ramsay!”

  • To those who’ve been saying Ben Foster. Good choice. But not because of Hostage. Look no further than 3:10 to Yuma as Russell Crowe’s right hand man. Talk about violent sadistic creeps. You can’t top Charlie Prince.

    And too bad he’s on Mad Men, because Vincent Kartheiser has always been Ramsay in my head. Doubt he can do a British accent though.

    Michael Pitt could pull it off I think, but I don’t think he will be cast. And Cillian Murphy (those laser blue eyes) would be awesome, he would bring more viewers to as he would be playing a villain that puts even Joffrey to shame. Again, I think he is too big a name.

    Eddie Redmayne would be good as well.

    My main two choices are still Andrew Scott and Burn Gorman. Scott for his batshit Moriarity on Sherlock and Gorman because he plays louts well and looks the part. He also conveys great pathos in his performances. Not that Ramsay has pathos…
    Look no further than his Mr. Guppy in Bleak House. Plus he can be reunited with Charles Dance. http://youtu.be/EZL-SwOmYJ8

    Off topic,with Dance already in and Gorman a possibility Bleak House has a wealth of actors to borrow from. Denis Lawson would be great (Wedge Antilles can get his nephew Ewan MacGregor to play Edmure) and Gillian Anderson could fit in easily on Game of Thrones but I don’t see what role she could play now. I remember back in the day when they were still casting season 1 that she was a favourite for Catelyn Stark, but I always thought she would nail Lysa Tully. Oh well. Maybe the Green Grace or Lady Dustin is awaiting her.

  • Carne

    You mean, they can’t find a talented little person who’s British?!? Seriously, I disagree, I think Pitt can play as Ramsay Snow if he can do a British accent right. Just because he’s American doesn’t mean he can’t play him. He’s got acting credentials and looks right for the part, I mean, an Asian or African-American guy can’t play as Ramsay. I put Cillian Murphy above him, but if he can’t do, why can’t he play as Ramsay? Saying he can’t, is like saying only gay people can do gay roles and only straight actors can play straight characters.

  • Mrs. H’ghar: Hadn’t thought of him, but he does have an instantly menacing look and does hair variety well. Loved the pink mohawk. Can he thpeak like Vargo? Or will that athpect be dithcarded from the cathting proceth?

    LMAO omg, Mrs. H’ghar, I think I’m gay for you too.

    P.S. It’s “protheth” btw ;)

  • Nooooooooo! Bad news for us Purefoy fans in GoT, Fox has cast him in a new series for the fall, titled “The Following”. He plays a serial killer who controls an army of serial killers and Kevin Bacon is an FBI agent who is assigned to the case.

  • Sorry, but what is up with you people casting flawless pretty-boys for Ramsay Snow? Cillian Murphy? Harry Potter actors, Elijah ‘Hobbit’ Wood?? Have we read the same books?
    I like my pretty boys as much as the next woman, but for the role of Ramsay… definitely not. He *is* described as ugly in the books (first Reek chapter iirc) and besides, he’s scary as hell. Not someone I’d like to see played by a very attractive person, regardless of how good they’re at acting creepy.

  • Tim: CarneYou mean, they can’t find a talented little person who’s British?!? Seriously, I disagree, I think Pitt can play as Ramsay Snow if he can do a British accent right. Just because he’s American doesn’t mean he can’t play him. He’s got acting credentials and looks right for the part, I mean, an Asian or African-American guy can’t play as Ramsay. I put Cillian Murphy above him, but if he can’t do, why can’t he play as Ramsay? Saying he can’t, is like saying only gay people can do gay roles and only straight actors can play straight characters.

    I totally agree with this… HBO casts people in the reverse order all of the time (UK actors playing US characters) Bill Compton(Stephen Moyer) on True Blood… and Brody (Damian Lewis) on Homeland(Showtime but whatever) both play major US characters but are both from the UK.

    MICHAEL PITT FTW!

  • Katie,

    Game of Thrones has been higher profile than that since the beginning. Honestly.

    While Murphy doesn’t look bad for the role, I think he’s not the best choice. In fact, he would look kind of awkward in that role. Of the choices we’re given here, I’d stick with Iwan Rheon.

  • Andrei Zayats, my ex-classmate, now a professional actor living in the UK.

    I guess he’s got the look… and I heard him yelling at school – trust me, he can yell like Give my Reeeeek baaaaack!!!

  • Dogmayor: I heard someone suggest Mads Mikkelson for either Euron or Victarion, it would be amazing to have him in any role really. Dude is a great actor.

    Yup, any role indeed.

  • DavidBC: I totally agree with this… HBO casts people in the reverse order all of the time (UK actors playing US characters) Bill Compton(Stephen Moyer) on True Blood… and Brody (Damian Lewis) on Homeland(Showtime but whatever) both play major US characters but are both from the UK.

    MICHAEL PITT FTW!

    I agree with what you mentioned. Also look at Dominic West and Idris Elba’s amazing performances at their respective roles in The Wire. It would be so narrow-minded of HBO to reject them because they weren’t Americans. Same if a talented American that looks and can act the part was turned down because he wasn’t born in the right country.

  • Hmm. I always portrayed him a bit fatter than the skinny actors suggested. Maybe it’s just me who misunderstands “a fleshy young man with fat moist lips”

  • hellharlequin,

    Agreed :)
    Perfect fit!
    There’s a bunch of good Potter actors, trick is finding the less known ones (Like Osha).
    I could not help watching “Rise of the planet of the apes” and think, that’s Draco! :D

  • Matthew Lewis, could work. And he looks nothing like Neville Longbottom in real life so that’s a plus.

    Only other suggestions that say Ramsey to me are Andrew Scott or Michael Pitt

    All the other ones look like they need a big mac

  • The Bastard of the Dreadfort is a hard one to cast. It would be really easy for an actor to go completely over the top with Ramsay. The same thing I feared with the Jof, but Gleeson has ben so good in that role, I’m actually sad he said after GoT he will quit acting.

    The actor for Ramsay Bolton must have unnerving charisma when quiet, exude cunning and have the acting chops to passionately lose his mind and scream without it looking forced. I don’t think Cillian Murphy (outside of the fact they’ll never pay him his salaray) is perfect for such a role. He’s better at playing the insane type (scarecrow when he goes mad). Ramsay isn’t insane, just the biggest sadistic asshole in Westeros. The actor has to fill the role of Joffrey as the biggest antagonist next to Roose.

  • Carne,

    If they can nail the accent, and the price is right, nationality shouldn’t have anything to do with it. Americans cast Brits to play Americans, why can’t you insert an American if he’s the most talented, reasonably priced actor for the role? I’m for a meritocracy.

  • Just saw Avengers and Tom Hiddleston would be a perfect Bastard of Bolton. Not sure if he was mentioned yet on this thread as I have not read the entire thing but he looks the part for sure.

  • After the Avengers I’m pretty sure Hiddleston is about as hot as Fassbender was last year, and a TV show offer probably won’t even make it past his agent. Plus it’s probably too similar to Loki.

    To Blaat’s points about what a good Ramsay would need, I again cite Ben Foster as being amazing for something like this. He exudes a very real menace (even in his ‘good-guy’ roles) that doesn’t chew up the scenes as much as it electrifies.

  • Redhat:
    Andrei Zayats, my ex-classmate, now a professional actor living in the UK.

    I guess he’s got the look… and I heard him yelling at school – trust me, he can yell like Give my Reeeeek baaaaack!!!

    I agree, this guy looks like my version of Ramsay more than any of the other actors. Even though he is Russian and his accent is not 100 percent “continental british” I think he can pull it off. Other than him I would go with Iwan Rheon.

    And for all the Warhammer fans out there…..WAAAAGH!

  • Jonas:
    Hmm. I always portrayed him a bit fatter than the skinny actors suggested. Maybe it’s just me who misunderstands “a fleshy young man with fat moist lips”

    That’s it – he can’t be a skinny nice looking guy with thin lips.

  • Karolina Węgrzyn: That’s it – he can’t be a skinny nice looking guy with thin lips.

    How about Gordon Ramsay then? He’s not young, he’s not available, his acting is born of salt and smoke plus – bonus – he’d be waaaay too expensive! He’s got the name, though, and the bastard part down to a T.

    JK ;^)

  • Wow! That look is perfect for Ramsay! That devious smile and his age is perfect. He is now my number one choice!

  • Robert Sheehan or Iwan Rheon are my top two picks for the part. They both did a great job in the misfits, but either would be great for the part!!!

  • Robert James-Collier, he plays Thomas in Downton Abbey, if any one has seen that. I think he looks the part, blue eyes, dark hair, plus he has a northern accent. I think he would do a good job. After all its not like they have not used actors from Downton before now.

  • I really like Hans Matheson; he played psycho Mordred in “The Mists of Avalon”, but I actually thin Ramsay is a different kind of sociopath, less hysterical and more brutal/violent. Still, I like his look.
    Cillian is way too cute, IMHO. And too expensive.
    And please, oh PLEASE no Dan Radcliffe. He is an horrible actor, with the same expressiveness of a wooden cupboard.

  • I think it’s funny that Gleeson is one of the first suggested ones, because he actually starred alongside Michael McElhatton (who plays Roose) in a sketch show called Your Bad Self

  • Cillian Murphy is good choice, but my number one face for Ramsay Bolton, no matter who they cast, will be Richard Armitage.

  • I agree that Cillian would be perfect for the roll of Ramsay, but I rather see him as Aerys II Targaryen.

  • I think Murphy is too old for Ramsay. My vote is on Sheehan. He really looks like Bastard of Bolton :-)