Episode 17 Preview: “A Man Without Honor”
By Ours is the Fury on in Media.

This war you’ve started is coming to our doorstep. – Tyrion Lannister

Watch the preview on Youtube


In this week’s episode, Daenerys reels from the loss of her dragons, and receives an invitation to the House of the Undying. Theon searches for the escaped Bran, Rickon, Hodor and Osha. Jon is lost beyond the Wall, and Jaime Lannister is visited by his cousin Alton, bearing a message. Cersei counsels Sansa as unrest continues to escalate in King’s Landing. Tywin searches for the cause of Harrenhal’s recent deaths.

“A Man Without Honor” was written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss, and directed by David Nutter.

Ours is the Fury: I’m curious to see how Theon’s hunt will play out since we’re missing Reek from A Clash of Kings. What are you looking forward to?


135 Comments

  1. Azure Flame
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Brienne + Jaime! Eeeee!

  2. Tyrion4Lyfe
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    I hope the boys went into the crypts, and not fled into the woods.

  3. Alex Kintner's Raft
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Brienne n Jamie!! YAY!

    Also WTF is going on with Shae and Sansa there?!?! Shae trying to shank Sansa?

  4. Cersei_Lancel
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Does anyone know if we’ll see a scene between Lancel and Cersei?

  5. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Looking forward to seeing the escape of the boys play out, how Jon handles his captive, and WHERE ARE MY DRAGONS??? Oh yeah, Brienne & Jaime should be very interesting indeed, and post-riot KL. Will Arya make her last pick? More Jaqen! More Jaqen!

  6. KG
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Alex Kintner’s Raft,

    Just as a guess, based on how trailer editors think, that it’s more like Shae showing Sansa that women always need to be ready for scumbags (something even The Funny Whore would eventually need to know) by demonstrating “look I even have a knife”

  7. Yeekim
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Cersei_Lancel,

    The actor playing Lancel marked in an interview, that he first met Lena Headey when they had to shoot a nude scene together. So there probably will be one.

    This is HBO, after all!

  8. Duff Man
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    I’d like to see this episode end with the alleged death of Bran and Rickon That would be a good cliff hanger and get people to tune in next week.

    Having the dragons get stolen was one of the dumbest changes they’ve made in adapting the books. Not looking forward to seeing more of that.

  9. Dornishman
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Yeekim:
    Cersei_Lancel,

    The actor playing Lancel marked in an interview, that he first met Lena Headey when they had to shoot a nude scene together. So there probably will be one.

    This is HBO, after all!

    Was that not in season 1?

  10. Mike from Braavos
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Yeekim: he first met Lena Headey when they had to shoot a nude scene together

    That must have been referring to the scene from the first season.

  11. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Finally my master will appear and steal the episode.

  12. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    I hope we get to hear Jamie refer to Brienne as ” A Hound With Teats” at some point.

  13. Virtus
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Yeekim:
    Cersei_Lancel,

    He was nude in the last episode of season 1.

    The actor playing Lancel marked in an interview, that he first met Lena Headey when they had to shoot a nude scene together. So there probably will be one.

    This is HBO, after all!

  14. Pepi
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Duff Man,

    Based on the trailer, I think there’s a good possibility we’ll get that (Bran and Rickon’s alleged death) in ep7, yeh. The guy, who Theon punches (at around 15 seconds) kinda looks like the guy to whom Bran gave two orphans last week.

  15. The DarkStar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I have not looked forward to an episode more than this one.
    I attribute that to the changes made, I’m not exactly sure how things are going to play out, and it’s exciting.

  16. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Tyrion4Lyfe:
    I hope the boys went into the crypts, and not fled into the woods.

    I hope this also.

  17. Alex Kintner's Raft
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Yeah you are most assuredly right about my comment :) Thanks KG!

  18. Dogmayor
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    I hope Rorge and Biter make an appearance.

  19. ANiceChianti
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Pepi,

    Yeah, it’s the same guy.

  20. markazus
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    The DarkStar,

    I agree, whilst not all the changes have been appreciated and are probably unnecessary, there are a few which I feel have made the story even more exciting. An example is the stolen dragons storyline.

    A non-reader friend of mine asked me “who took the dragons, how the hell did one person kill all those people?” And whilst it is probable that it is Pyat Pree on his way to the House of the Undying, I’m excited to see how the story pans out.

    Other than that, I’m mostly looking forward to Theon’s hunt and Jaime’s scenes.

  21. Ed
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Oooofff… What a brutal cliffhanger that would be for non-book readers. Awesome.

    Duff Man:
    I’d like to see this episode end with the alleged death of Bran and RickonThat would be a good cliff hanger and get people to tune in next week.

    Having the dragons get stolen was one of the dumbest changes they’ve made in adapting the books.Not looking forward to seeing more of that.

  22. Tyrion4Lyfe
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Yeekim:
    Cersei_Lancel,

    The actor playing Lancel marked in an interview, that he first met Lena Headey when they had to shoot a nude scene together. So there probably will be one.

    This is HBO, after all!

    Wouldn’t that be the scene from season one?

  23. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Duff Man,

    Yes, because the way Martin made Dany trust the warlocks for no reason even though her husband was killed by a witch was so intelligent and compelling -_-

  24. TMWNN
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    I’m curious to see how Theon’s hunt will play out since we’re missing Reek from A Clash of Kings.

    Ramsay will appear this season, but as a silent, helmeted knight leading the Bolton army to victory over Theon’s. The Stark men in Winterfell will cheer . . . until the Boltons kill them all.

    Robb will be told that–contrary to his wish–Theon was not taken alive. At some point–perhaps during the last episode, or in future seasons–we’ll see brief glimpses, however, of Theon as a unwashed, flayed prisoner in the Dreadfort who has forgotten even his real name due to the torture. Because of his horrible body odor he is called “Reek”.

    On a separate note, we know that Jaime’s escape attempt will occur this episode. I’ve read speculation that Jaime will injure Robb during the attempt, which will cause “Talisa” to nurse Robb, leading to their affair and his proposal. Not very different from the books, really, just compressed.

  25. Tyrion4Lyfe
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    The DarkStar:
    I have not looked forward to an episode more than this one.
    I attribute that to the changes made, I’m not exactly sure how things are going to play out, and it’s exciting.

    Honestly, I have been fairly happy with the changes (not all of them, mind you) as well. Leaves some excitement for me from week to week.

  26. Mike from Braavos
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu:
    Duff Man,

    Yes, because the way Martin made Dany trust the warlocks for no reason even though her husband was killed by a witch was so intelligent and compelling-_-

    this

  27. Remaal
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Oh, Jaime, how I have missed you.

    BRan & Rickon’s death looks likely this week, I hope they handle the scene well, leaving the surprise revea to the final episode.

    I also hope the show is able to maintain the pace, and the tension, of ep 6 throughout the remainder of the season. I would hate for the show to slip back into the disjointed crawl of the first 4 episodes.

  28. Remaal
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu:
    Duff Man,

    Yes, because the way Martin made Dany trust the warlocks for no reason even though her husband was killed by a witch was so intelligent and compelling-_-

    Agreed. Dany’s entire arc in the books is full of unconvincing events & moments, with the whole Qarth sequence certainly being one of them.

  29. McKee
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion isn’t mentioned in the plot synopsis, but I am anticipating a certain conference with the blacksmiths of Kings Landing.

  30. Angel
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Duff Man:
    I’d like to see this episode end with the alleged death of Bran and RickonThat would be a good cliff hanger and get people to tune in next week.

    Having the dragons get stolen was one of the dumbest changes they’ve made in adapting the books.Not looking forward to seeing more of that.

    Having Danys Dragons stolen was one of the smartest changes from the books. It will lead her to the House of the Undying! It’s also a very smart move budgetary wise as they don’t have to spend CGI money until Dany gets to the Last room of the Undying. DRACARYS!

  31. Cersei_Lancel
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Yeekim,

    Thanks for the answer, but i think that he meant the first season.

  32. Angel
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu:
    Duff Man,

    Exactly! GRRM makes a few mistakes here and there so I like how D&D are adapting the story

  33. Maiden Fair
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Alex Kintner’s Raft,

    I think this is the part in the book where Sansa freaks out after she “flowers” and tries to burn her mattress. Shae is probably stopping her from harming herself. That’s my guess.

  34. Angel
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    TMWNN: Ramsay will appear this season, but as a silent, helmeted knight leading the Bolton army to victory over Theon’s. The Stark men in Winterfell will cheer . . . until the Boltons kill them all. Robb will be told that–contrary to his wish–Theon was not taken alive. At some point–perhaps during the last episode, or in future seasons–we’ll see brief glimpses of Theon as a unwashed, tortured prisoner, who due to his horrible body odor is called “Reek”.

    On a separate note, we know that Jaime’s escape attempt will occur this episode. I’ve read speculation that Jaime will injure Robb during the attempt, which will cause “Talisa” to nurse Robb, leading to their affair and his proposal. Not very different from the books, really, just compressed.

    I don’t agree with the speculation that Jaime will injure Robb. Cat would never release him if he did that

  35. Shock Me
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Remaal: Agreed. Dany’s entire arc in the books is full of unconvincing events & moments, with the whole Qarth sequence certainly being one of them.

    I plodded through the Daeny chapters in all five books hoping for something that would bring her to Westeros. My only hope now is that the pointless mess in Astapor and Meereen is a plot device to add Tyrion and Arya to her entourage.

    Show Daeny made me a huge fan of our Khalessi, but since GRRM insists on spending so much time in Essos away from all the other POV plotlines, Emelia Clarke has to really bring it to get me to care about the Pretty Targ.

  36. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Angel: I don’t agree with the speculation that Jaime will injure Robb. Cat would never release him if he did that

    Agreed…I think they will imply Alton was going to help him escape, but Cat will release him before he gets the chance to escape, in hopes of getting back the girls. Jaime’s attempted escape doesn’t add that much to the story, and I also don’t think that Cat would release Jaime if he had injured Rob first. She’d be more likely to have him beheaded if that happened. Rob may still get injured in battle this week though, since that story with the nurse has to move somewhere soon. Alton Lannister seems to be wearing a “red shirt,” right?

  37. Langkard
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Pepi:
    Duff Man,

    Based on the trailer, I think there’s a good possibility we’ll get that (Bran and Rickon’s alleged death) in ep7, yeh. The guy, who Theon punches (at around 15 seconds) kinda looks like the guy to whom Bran gave two orphans last week.

    It is the same guy. I looked at it frame by frame. I think we can count on it happening this coming episode.

  38. Vanderhook
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    TMWNN: Ramsay will appear this season, but as a silent, helmeted knight leading the Bolton army to victory over Theon’s. The Stark men in Winterfell will cheer . . . until the Boltons kill them all.Robb will be told that–contrary to his wish–Theon was not taken alive. At some point–perhaps during the last episode, or in future seasons–we’ll see brief glimpses, however, of Theon as a unwashed, flayed prisoner in the Dreadfort who has forgotten even his real name due to the torture. Because of his horrible body odor he is called “Reek”.On a separate note, we know that Jaime’s escape attempt will occur this episode. I’ve read speculation that Jaime will injure Robb during the attempt, which will cause “Talisa” to nurse Robb, leading to their affair and his proposal. Not very different from the books, really, just compressed.

    I think you have the right idea.

    Here’s how I see Theon’s story playing out the rest of the season

    Next episode (7): Theon realizes Bran and company are missing. He questions some of the local Winterfell folk before he, Luwin, Dagmer and a few others search for them. Theon becomes frustrated that he cannot find them. Dagmer pulls Theon aside and says he has a hunch they are at nearby mill. Theon sends Luwin and the other Ironborn away and heads to the Mill. There he questions the miller there and demands to know where Bran and Rickon are. The scene changes abruptly as Theon starts beating the miller.

    Episode 8: The episode starts out with the image of two small tarred heads on spikes on the walls of winterfell. We see Asha/Yara arrive and Theon explains how he took winterfell and killed Bran and Rickon for the attempted escape then demands 500 troops. Asha/Yara chastises Theon, telling him that holding winterfell is a hopeless endeavor and that killing little boys is especially horrific. She leaves and Theon is quite upset. Throughout the episode we also see Catelyn and Robb’s reactions to really sell the fact that bran and rickon are dead.

    Episode 9: This is supposed to be the Blackwater episode so I’m not sure if there will be any room for Theon in this episode. If there is, it will be the parlay between Rodrik and Theon. Of course, Rodrik is already dead in the show so this would just be with Ramsay Snow, who’s face is covered by a helmet since he probably isn’t cast. This scene may be in the previous episode or the next if there isn’t time for theon in this episode

    Episode 10: Ramsay Snow takes winterfell and destroys the iron born forces as the people of winterfell cheer.. until Ramsay slaughters all of them and razes Winterfell to the ground. Later in the episode, probably the final scene, we see Bran, Rickon, Osha and Hodor emerge from the crypts, speak with a dying Luwin and then head North. It’s possible that Luwin will stay alive and take Rickon to Skagos in order to get around the issue of not having the Reeds around.

  39. Black Lion
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook,

    Man, I know that it is a mostly bookwalker thread, but for R’hllor’s sake edit those spoilers.

  40. Langkard
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    McKee:
    Tyrion isn’t mentioned in the plot synopsis, but I am anticipating a certain conference with the blacksmiths of Kings Landing.

    Speaking of which, for those who want to get an idea of what the chain itself should look like, there’s still a segment of the Great Chain which was used across the Hudson River during the American Revolution at a monument at West Point. There is a great pic of part of the chain here: http://www.unc.edu/~chaos1/chain.html Each link is 2 feet across and weighs 114 pounds. The total weight of the chain was 65 tons. I hope GOT makes the effort to create something just as impressive for Episode 9!

    Hrrm…

    Is it just me or does the link show through the spoiler block?

  41. Vanderhook
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Black Lion: Vanderhook, Man, I know that it is a mostly bookwalker thread, but for R’hllor’s sake edit those spoilers.

    What do you mean?

  42. Dogmayor
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook,

    Oh I don’t know tarred heads?? Bran and Rickon dead? Have some respect for the non book readers. And Ramsay taking Winterfell and killing it’s inhabitants?

  43. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook: What do you mean?

    Your Episode 8 & 9 descriptions should be bracketed with the spoiler tags to block from people who don’t want to know book stuff….Oh, you got it, thanks!

  44. Vanderhook
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Dogmayor: Vanderhook, Oh I don’t know tarred heads?? Bran and Rickon dead? Have some respect for the non book readers. And Ramsay taking Winterfell and killing it’s inhabitants?

    Am I supposed to not post spoilers even if in tags? I mean it’s called a SPOILER tag for a reason. If you don’t want spoilers don’t highlight the tags, seriously.

  45. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else thinking Robb may suffer an injury during the escape attempt, prompting a visit from a nurse to, uh, tend to his wounds?

  46. Sekandar Martell
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    One scene I am REALLY hoping they fit into the series is: Luwin and Theon discussing going to the Night’s Watch. I know they have already done the whole ‘ambiguous Theon’ thing a fair bit already, but I loved that scene in the book. It just underlined the tragedy unfolding and adds that extra tiny bit of sympathy/understanding for a character soon to be even more reviled by and large.

    Also, whenever I read some of the theories regarding how the Winterfel story will end this season I always find myself reading about how Ramsay will be masked (so on and so forth) and shaking my head. If it DOES go down that route it just feels incredibly clumsy, so I’m still holding out hope we’ll get something better.

  47. Jon Glorioso
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion4Lyfe,

    They will because they only walked into the woods to make tracks to fool Theon and the hounds he’s asking for int he preview

  48. Ryan
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    about time we got some more Jaime. There has been a serious Jaime shortage so far this season.

  49. Durendaele
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    From the NCW interview:
    NCW: “…and the scenes I have were just brilliant, one scene in particular. I wish I could tell you about it… because in a weird cryptic way it relates to you guys! :-) “

    I’m looking forward to see what NCW was talking about

  50. Dogmayor
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook,

    Your original post didn’t have spoiler tags.

  51. Vanderhook
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Dogmayor: Vanderhook, Your original post didn’t have spoiler tags.

    My post most definitely had spoiler tags, as I made a point to do so. It showed up as 4 paragraphs of black bars after I posted it. Looking back on it now, everything is spoiler tagged except “episode 8:”. I’m guessing it just didn’t go through and a mod edited it, despite it looking 100% fine on my end. I’m using a crappy computer at work so maybe thats the reason.

  52. babar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Durendaele,

    Broken nose. You can see it in one of the preview videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDpbQsiACU4), and NCW’s nose was the subject of a lot of discussions around here when he was first announced as playing Jaime.

  53. Durendaele
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Ah, ok. Thanks Babar.

    I was foolishly hoping for an “Always support the bottom” reference. ;)

  54. purplejilly
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    This week, Dany vows to “take what is hers” in… in… hmmm.. how will she vow, now?

    DANY: “I will take what is mine, in, uh, sandals and eyeliner?”
    SPICE KING LOOKS BORED
    In desperation, Dany returns to the traditional Qartheen fashion, and pulls out a boob…
    DANY: “How about now? Now can I have some ships?”
    SPICE KING: “What else you got? I’ve seen the one boob trick before..”

  55. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Duff Man: Having the dragons get stolen was one of the dumbest changes they’ve made in adapting the books. Not looking forward to seeing more of that.

    Don’t you think it’s a little early to say that? Why not let it play out before rushing to judgment?

  56. Shock Me
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    Possible but I doubt it. I suspect what we will see is Tywin drawn from Harrenhal by an urgent Raven from King’s Landing. Tywin attempting to find the assassin. Tywin being force to commit to relieving King’s Landing when another Lannister host is destroyed and Robb is injured at the Crag or the Tooth. A second division of forces by Robb’s army that leaves Roose close to Harrenhal blocking Tywin from saving the West as Robb is raiding even closer to Casterly Rock to cut off Tywin’s supply lines.

    In Winterfell, I think we will possibly see Maester Luwin healed enough (assuming no Reeds next season) to flee with Rickon after the Boltons burn Winterfell kill or enslave all the folk and then blame the retreating and dead Ironborn. The Stark boys emerging from hiding in the Crypts as the last scene of the season with the outside chance of one or both Reeds waiting for them but not shown on camera this season. Just the look on Bran’s Rickon’s and Osha’s face as they see their first frogeaters.

    In Qarth, I think the fact that Doreah wasn’t shown dead is an indicator she might have some information about who took the dragons that Jorah can discover perhaps as she is dying. Although my preference is that she rescued Drogon and is in hiding. I think Daeny will first suspect the Spice King until she gets a ransom from the Warlocks or finds out what is behind the Valyarian Stone door.

  57. Kalasin
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Tywin investigates deaths at Harrenhall? Suddenly he’s a dectective? I would think he’d have bigger things to deal with than two measly deaths. I hope this doesn’t impact the Arya storyline too much. I’d prefer them just continuing to play off each other until he leaves/she escapes. No “he investigates/she’s in more danger of being found out” stuff.

    Also, Jon is lost beyond the Wall? That is not a plot development. That was Jon’s status at the end of last week. Jon’s storyline is moving like molasses!

    Sorry. I love the show but I’m sick and grumpy today. And still trying to figure out how/hoping Qhorin finds a way to tell Jon to go undercover, or his time with the wildlings will start making absolutely no sense.

  58. Phil
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu: Duff Man, Yes, because the way Martin made Dany trust the warlocks for no reason even though her husband was killed by a witch was so intelligent and compelling -_-

    She did have a compelling reason to go there. She knew Mirri had power and was only a maegi, which is why she figured the Warlocks would have even more. Also, she doesn’t trust them. She went because she was seeking knowledge and was all out of other options. Probably the same reason she’ll go there in the show — except it’ll be to gain knowledge of where her dragons are.

  59. Macha
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Mmm, Jaime and Brienne. I expect twitter will explode.

  60. Abyss
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Off Topic:
    Just wanted to say that the the link for the Protestor (Edward Tudor-Pole) is broken. Someone should fix that. ;-)

  61. LV
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Game-Thrones-Coster-Waldau-1047360.aspx

    Of all the main actors, this one understands his own character the best – and I am not even sure that he read the novels; a testament to D&D’s writing and coaching.
    I am really looking forward to his scenes. Does anyone think that his conversation with “Alton Lannister” might be the notorious ‘best thing’ NCW ever played (he mentioned such a mysterious scene in his SkyAtlantic interview a few weeks back).

  62. Dogmayor
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook,

    Well whatever happened, it’s all good now.

  63. Anvil
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Kalasin:

    Sorry.I love the show but I’m sick and grumpy today.And still trying to figure out how/hoping Qhorin finds a way to tell Jon to go undercover, or his time with the wildlings will start making absolutely no sense.

    They’ll propably just want to expand Jon’s time with Ygritte a little. I expect, after some “in depth talking” between the two, Jon decides to let Ygritte go in the next ep. and the rest of the plot will play out similar to the book.

  64. Kalasin
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Anvil,

    I hope that but have a suspicion that maybe they’re going to run into her people while he has her captive. I base this mostly on the shot of him walking across ice with a bunch of wildlings in the trailers – I’m hesitant to think they would show that so much if it’s the last shot of his storyline, which it would be if it goes by the books. Then maybe her team takes Qhorin captive too? It’s just a theory. Also, I doubt he could let her go now – now that he’s lost he probably needs her for survival.

    But I hope you’re right.

  65. Manish Man
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    I’m calling it, Doreah stole the dragons.

    …Seriously, it was an inside job.

  66. val
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    I think we’ll see Theon grabbing those two boys, maybe Dagmer will play Reek’s part in this. The crypt reveal comes in the last episode. I don’t know, I just don’t think they’ll make the audience believe that Bran and Rickon are actually dead until the last second, doesn’t seem practical.

    About the dragons, since i’s almost for certain that Pyat Pree took them, I’m guessing ser Jorah or one of the bloodriders finds out (or is there just one left?) and Dany goes to the House of the Undying to get them and dracaryses the place to the ground. Not sure what to make of Doreah. Are they gonna leave Dany completely alone for when she goes east? Ser Barristan and her army of slaves? I loooove that they’re changing a few things though, it’s so exciting not to know :D

  67. Vanhelmond
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Langkard: Speaking of which, for those who want to get an idea of what the chain itself should look like, there’s still a segment of the Great Chain which was used across the Hudson River during the American Revolution at a monument at West Point.There is a great pic of part of the chain here: http://www.unc.edu/~chaos1/chain.htmlEach link is 2 feet across and weighs 114 pounds.The total weight of the chain was 65 tons.I hope GOT makes the effort to create something just as impressive for Episode 9!

    Hrrm…

    Is it just me or does the link show through the spoiler block?

    I think it’s rather based on the great chain of Constantinople. It looks about the same, but it’s much older. Here are some pictures:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/davechicago773/3927574020/in/photostream/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/davechicago773/3927573060/in/photostream/

  68. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Manish Man: I’m calling it, Doreah stole the dragons.…Seriously, it was an inside job.

    My guess? Doreah has somehow squirreled away Drogon, which Dany will bring with her to Warlockville just like in the book. Somebody (or somebodies) pretty badass had to be the one to bust in there and kill everybody, and I don’t see how Doreah would have helped with that.

  69. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson: My guess? Doreah has somehow squirreled away Drogon, which Dany will bring with her to Warlockville just like in the book. Somebody (or somebodies) pretty badass had to be the one to bust in there and kill everybody, and I don’t see how Doreah would have helped with that.

    Since guesses are being bandied about, this one guesses that Drogon escaped during the dragon-napping event and is hovering around above the town waiting for an opportunity to return to Dany. Only 2 tails were visible in the view of the dragons in a basket being carried up a stairway, and a loud shriek was heard, which I take to be Drogon off in the distance crying for his siblings as they squeak in the basket. But Doreah holding Drogon is a possibility too. Can’t wait for Sunday night.

  70. AJ
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    I’m sure it’s kind of a stretch, but maybe the hooded person carrying the dragons up to the tower is Arston Whitebeard aka Barriston Selmy? Maybe he knew that someone was after the dragons and took them before the bad guys could get them. I have always wondered how they would reintroduce him in Qarth since book readers don’t really realize it’s him until he is revealed later in SOS. In the TV show, I was figuring they would have him hooded in some way so viewers would be surprised as to his identity. Also, the House of the Undying was not presented as a tower in the books

  71. Vee
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Kalasin: they’re going to run into her people while he has her captive. I base this mostly on the shot of him walking across ice with a bunch of wildlings in the trailers – I’m hesitant to think they would show that so much if it’s the last shot of his storyline, which it would be if it goes by the books. Then maybe her team takes Qhorin captive too? It’s just a theory. Also, I doubt he could let her go now – now that he’s lost he probably needs her for survival.

    If this is the case, I think it adds a bit more plausibility to Qhorin’s order to Jon. If Jon already has an “in” of sorts, it makes sense to me that Qhorin would want to take advantage of that, still leading to the inevitable. The way we’ve seen it played so far in the show, Qhorin doesn’t really know what Jon’s made of yet, whereas crossing paths later with Jon (if he’s in the company of Wildlings) is an opportunity Qhorin clearly won’t pass up if he’s sure of Jon’s loyalties.

    I might be in the minority, but I like how they’re shaping/shaking up Jon’s storyline this season. I think it makes Jon less…passive, in terms of the Watch? Book!Qhorin’s trust in Jon seems mostly based on Jon’s decision to let Ygritte go, warging, and having Stark blood in his veins; the way they seem to be setting it up now, I think Qhorin’s order will put more faith in Jon’s capabilities as a man and member of the Night’s Watch, if that makes any sense? Like, “Hey, good job not getting killed by these Wildlings. Congratulations, Snow, you’re going undercover.”

  72. Michael
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Hadn’t really thought about it, but I’m pretty sure there are only two dragon tails in that scene at the end…I’m guessing, Joreah hid with Drogon. Earlier they mentioned how Drogon liked her, so it seems very likely.

    So looks like from the summaries that this was the “invitation” to the House of the Undying, perhaps Jorah will advise her not to go there in Ep. 7 and Dany decides to go in Ep. 8? I’d still be surprised if the HOTU is the “Strange Place” mentioned in the summary for Ep. 10.

    Michael

  73. Macha
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Vanhelmond: I think it’s rather based on the great chain of Constantinople.

    It is, just like wildfire is based on greek fire, I think GRRM even mentioned it in an interview. I’m extremely curious to see how it’ll look onscreen.

  74. Remaal
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    I think we’ll here Jaime saying the “shit for honor” line tonight, as part of my favourite monologue of the entire series. I’ve been looking forward to that scene all season, I hope the writers and NCW do it justice.

  75. Oi!
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Michael,

    So your saying that Doreah is just Jorah in drag. ;)

  76. Mike from Braavos
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Vanderhook: Here’s how I see Theon’s story playing out the rest of the season

    Episode 8: The episode starts out with the image of two small tarred heads on spikes on the walls of winterfell. We see Asha/Yara arrive and Theon explains how he took winterfell and killed Bran and Rickon for the attempted escape then demands 500 troops….

    Episode 9: This is supposed to be the Blackwater episode so I’m not sure if there will be any room for Theon in this episode. If there is, it will be the parlay between Rodrik and Theon. Of course, Rodrik is already dead in the show so this would just be with Ramsay Snow, who’s face is covered by a helmet since he probably isn’t cast. This scene may be in the previous episode or the next if there isn’t time for theon in this episode

    Episode 10: Ramsay Snow takes winterfell and destroys the iron born forces as the people of winterfell cheer.. until Ramsay slaughters all of them and razes Winterfell to the ground. Later in the episode, probably the final scene, we see Bran, Rickon, Osha and Hodor emerge from the crypts, speak with a dying Luwin and then head North. It’s possible that Luwin will stay alive and take Rickon to Skagos in order to get around the issue of not having the Reeds around.

    I agree w/ most of your theories. Only, if you’ve watch the “House Greyjoy” feature with a sharp eye, you’d see that it doesn’t appear that there will be any heads on spikes – just tarred kids. I think they need to show Theon dragging the tarred bodies in so we can get a reaction shot from the Winterfell inhabitants. If they just do another “I climbed the walls with grappling hooks” recap it might fall flat and be less believable.

    As far as episode 9 – I did see in one interview that the battle doesn’t take up the ENTIRE episode. So there will be room for other stuff (who knows if it will go to Theon). Although, if they’re going to have Ramsay in the show wearing a helmet, I think his appearance will be one brief scene. Any more than that and it will be pretty cheesy to have his face obscured the whole time.

    I think they’ll have Luwen take Osha’s place as Rickon’s escort also. Either that or Rickon will start off with the group and split off later one (maybe when they get to the wall).

  77. Kalasin
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Vee,

    So, Jon’s a prisoner of the wildlings but somehow convinces them that he’s turned by killing fellow prisoner Qhorin? That’s the only way I see it working (Qhorin wouldn’t trust Jon if he just joined them right out), unless he lets her go and returns to Qhorin like in the books. But I do like how in the books Qhorin explains why he left Jon to kill Ygritte alone, and also how the warging comes into play. And he does have somewhat of an “in” in the books, because he has Ygritte, even if it’s less established than they’re making it in the show. Mostly, though I just don’t want them to make him staying with them out of self interest, as in, this is how I survive, because I don’t think that’s in character. I think it has to be a mission and it has to be under orders to work both with his character and his story going forward.

    Honestly, I think if Jon winds up getting captured (likely, imo) it’s just going to make him look even more like an idiot. I’m not sure it would make me trust him more. Maybe it’s because show-Jon is so much older than book-Jon, but so far he’s coming off pretty daft. My non-book reader friends are pretty fed up with his storyline at this point. They don’t like the character and they’re bored. I love Jon in the books and I’m a huge Kit fan, but he needs to do something both right and interesting soon or some people I know are going to start skipping his scenes.

  78. Lex
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    OT:

    Just when I was starting to think Larry Williams was dead, he appears to have shared a link on his youtube page (first activity in 8 days). So… hopefully Larry Williams is back.

  79. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink
  80. darquemode
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    AJ,

    I thought the same thing and posted a screencap in the recap post of what looks to me to be a white beard under the cowl of the person who has the dragons. IT makes sesne that Whitebeard would protect Daenerys’s children if he is acting as a Queen’s Guard in his own mind. Plus he will have to be introduced at some point and there will be no big reveal like in the books as you said.

    Even if the warlocks do not have her dragons Dany could have more than enough reason to go to House of the Undying anyway. Especially if they attempted to kill her people and steal her dragons, but were stopped by the mysterious cowled figure.

  81. WhereTheWildRickonsR
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson: Don’t you think it’s a little early to say that? Why not let it play out before rushing to judgment?

    Agreed.

    After the initial shock of the unexpected changes, im getting used to them and I’m interested to see where D&D are going with this.

    I think it takes a few rewatches to fully appreciate the show

  82. Rob M
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    I was thinking about the “nurse” (Talissa). I thought the show made it pretty obvious that she is a spy for the Lannisters. The irony of the moment with Robb was that she was actually writing a letter to the Lannisters. Seeing as the scene comes right after Arya’s scene with the letter on Robb’s troop movements, it is also rather clear that it is from Talissa. Which sort of builds on to the book version where Jeyne is sent to Robb for screwing him over. Except there she was more of a victim of circumstance.

  83. DB
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Oh crap, D&D wrote this episode? Hope they don’t eff up the dialogue like they have been. Hopefully Nutter can redeem the sucky lines ;_;

  84. Blackfish
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    I am looking foward to ROS, ROS, and more ROS! In every 50+ mins episode, I want 45 mins of Ros. They should change the name of the show to Game Of Ros and add her Vajayjay as a location to the intro credit!

    Also when each episode is 95% good, I enjoy complaining about the 5%, heck I want to complain about the 95% good things too just to complain. I don’t watch this show for the enjoyment or entertainment value, I only watch it so I can complain.

    You know what they say, every village has one, and my village has internet access! Yay!

    nuff said

  85. Vee
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Kalasin:
    Vee,
    So, Mostly, though I just don’t want them to make him staying with them out of self interest, as in, this is how I survive, because I don’t think that’s in character.I think it has to be a mission and it has to be under orders to work both with his character and his story going forward.

    Oh, I totally get that and would agree that a self-interest aspect would not be in character. But I think we’ve had “Jon wants to be a leader” drilled into our heads far more in the show than in the books, too. If Jon himself saw the opportunity (if events are even going in that direction, re: meeting up with the Wildlings before meeting back up with Qhorin, etc.) to glean more info about the Wildlings (because isn’t the whole point of them being North of the Wall to figure out what they’re doing?), does that necessarily make his actions selfish? I’m not saying Jon would necessarily think it all through, but if the groundwork is laid, I guess I don’t see how that compromises Jon’s character or changes the inevitable conclusion from the books? It’s still a mission, and even the Old Bear basically told Jon that sometimes you do what you have to do, overlook what you need to do for the greater good.

    Now whether he gets himself captured… I’m not sure I agree that it makes him an idiot. If that’s how it does down, I think how he reacts to that situation is far more important than how he ended up there in the first place. (But I’m well aware that I’m probably alone in that sentiment, heh.) And as far as Ygritte goes, I think it adds depth to her character if they actually spend some time together before linking back up with other Wildlings and she sticks her neck out for him. If I hadn’t read the books, I’d be very puzzled at her reasons if they’d played that straight from the book.

  86. Caro Herrera
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    can’t wait for the san/san scene!

  87. Mimsy
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish: Blackfish
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Permalink
    I am looking foward to ROS, ROS, and more ROS! [snip] They should change the name of the show to Game Of Ros and add her Vajayjay as a location to the intro credit!

    [snip]

    You know what they say, every village has one, and my village has internet access!

    Totally LOL’d at this. The last line, I just want to frame. Hilarious!

  88. Ser Lurkalot
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Giddy fun that we book readers don’t know what is going to happen now. Whatever we get, I want it to include more Pod!

  89. Felt Pelt
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, I would like Pod and the Hound to get some of the detail they get in the books before Blackwater.

  90. Little Littlefinger
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    hoping to see Ramsay in some “form “or another. One of my favorite characters.

  91. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Phil,

    No, that’s just a piss poor excuse of an explanation just like Dany’s entire storyline after AGOT is .

  92. Tyrion4Lyfe
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish:
    I am looking foward to ROS, ROS, and more ROS!In every 50+ mins episode, I want 45 mins of Ros.They should change the name of the show to Game Of Ros and add her Vajayjay as a location to the intro credit!

    Also when each episode is 95% good, I enjoy complaining about the 5%, heck I want to complain about the 95% good things too just to complain.I don’t watch this show for the enjoyment or entertainment value, I only watch it so I can complain.

    You know what they say, every village has one, and my village has internet access!Yay!

    nuff said

    You’re just bitter you haven’t been cast yet. ;-)

  93. Icy Fingers
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Both my boyfriend and my housemate are huge fans of the show and have never read the books. I’ve read them all from start to finish and kinda know whats coming. I am having to bite my tongue this week every time the show comes up in discussion to make sure I don’t spoil anything for them

  94. Ser Lurkalot
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    OT: Just re-watched the scene where Theon takes Rodrick’s head. Had to take a paus. That scene is so damn powerful, and Alfie Allen is simply amazing. Just look at his face! Emmy material. Back to watching ep 6…

  95. Winter Is Coming
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Ser Lurkalot:
    OT: Just re-watched the scene where Theon takes Rodrick’s head. Had to take a paus. That scene is so damn powerful, and Alfie Allen is simply amazing. Just look at his face! Emmy material. Back to watching ep 6…

    Agreed x1000.

  96. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish,

    Oh my god, snot flew out of my nose I was laughing so hard!

  97. Restore The Day
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Unrelated but since we don’t have a place for unrelated stuff, here it is for tomorrow’s parody post:
    http://leasticoulddo.com/comic/20120425

    This webseries has an ongoing GoT theme which is maybe 20ish strip-strong as of now. Not exactly my cup of tea but some good stuff!

  98. Kalasin
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Vee,

    I’m tentatively ok with him coming up with it on his own, as long as they can make that clear in the show. That tends to be a thought process thing, though, and maybe a little bit sophisticated for him right now.

    Don’t get me wrong – I don’t dislike the extended Ygritte stuff, and I’m loving Rose Leslie (although I do ask myself sometimes “Jon, what’s your plan here?” because he’s gotten himself into something of a pickle, with no apparent way out – something book-Jon managed to avoid). I’m just curious/worried about how it impacts the end of his book 2 story. I think it’s just so strong in the books, and I don’t want it diluted too much.

    I shouldn’t get ahead of myself, though. There are four episodes left! Anything is possible :)

  99. Vanderhook
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming: Agreed x1000.

    I saw that gif the other day, good stuff. I’m trying to find one that shows the entire beheading + Theon’s face

  100. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    I see what you did there.

    (And Alfie was amazing in the last ep.)

  101. dmf
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    My overall thoughts on the plotlines:

    Dany’s dragons getting taken don’t bother me. that plot should play out. Although, i wonder how soon they can do the house of the undying being that she has to flee Qarth after and comes into contact with Strong Belwas, who has not been cast for this season. unless they’re doing away with him and leaving “Arstan” on his own…

    With Bran and Rickon I think they it would only make sense to do the reveal that they are alive in the final episode… maybe even the final scene. Most dramatic one coming up if you ask me.

    As for Jamie, I think he should, like in the book, make a failed escape attempt, killing Karstark’s son. Karstark is cast and therefore we’ll probably see his beheading near the end of hte season. I also think it makes sense for Robb to get injured, but if not maybe he’ll come down with something? If Talisa is Jeyne Westerling, this is how they grow together. Catelyn can come to him with the terms at the end of the episode and release him or maybe at the beginning of episode 8.

    Arya probably wont give Jaqen another name just yet… as we know the last name is Jaqen’s and one, Tywin has not captured any Northern commanders yet, and two, Tywin is still there at all. Won’t happen until he rides south for Blackwater. My guess is episode 10 will feature this last “name”.

    I don’t think Jon will make much progress, as i think they’ll save Qhorin’s death for the last or second-to-last episode.

  102. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Please have Jaime describe in detail how Rickard and Brandon Stark were murdered. In fact, I’d love for Jaime and Cat’s discussion to be a long scene that keeps most of the lines straight from the book. That chapter is my favorite from ‘A Clash of Kings’.

  103. Leofric
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Vee,

    The way I could see Jon’s storyline play out is :

    We start with a wolf’s eye view of a huge Wilding camp in the Frosfangs; then Jon wakes up to find Ygritte gone and Qhorin standing over him saying that’s some dream he was having. Jon tells Qhorin about the dream and Qhorin picks up immediately that he was warging and that the camp was real. Jon says he couldn’t kill Ygritte, and Qhorin says fine , he was just trying to find out what kind of man Jon was. Then he says they have to run because Ygritte will be bringing back help. And the chase plays out like the book, ending with Jon alone with the Wildings

  104. KG
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Durendaele,

    A bunch of peasants walk by and insult everyone? That’s kind of like us.

  105. young stark
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait……king of the north!!!!!

  106. funlight
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Sekandar Martell: One scene I am REALLY hoping they fit into the series is: Luwin and Theon discussing going to the Night’s Watch. I know they have already done the whole ‘ambiguous Theon’ thing a fair bit already, but I loved that scene in the book. It just underlined the tragedy unfolding and adds that extra tiny bit of sympathy/understanding for a character soon to be even more reviled by and large.

    I agree with your wholeheartedly! I too loved that scene in the book.

  107. Christmas is coming
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Oh Jamie, there you are! I forgot about you!

    Am I the only one that finds dany boring? I skim through her chapters in the book, and loose all interest when she appears in the show. She just spends too much time saying who she is and what is hers…

    You have dragons woman!!

  108. Nagga's Kin
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    Vanhelmond: I think it’s rather based on the great chain of Constantinople.

    Also noteworthy: Castle Pfalzgrafenstein, a famous medieval keep built atop a sand bank in the middle of the river Rhine. It enforced toll collection by the fortified town of Kaub on the right bank with the help of a strong movable chain across the right fork. A second chain linked the keep to Castle Gutenfels on the left bank. In addition, the keep also contained a number of catapults and later, cannons. These were used against ships that tried to run the gauntlet and avoid paying their toll, which was due in both directions.

  109. freoduwebbe
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Leofric,

    My thoughts were just like yours.. but the dream starts with Bran and the weirwood like in the book. I think that becomes important in book 6.

  110. jp
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    A Man Without Honor” is like “A Boy Without Hodor” (sorry, couldn’t resist ;)

  111. purplejilly
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish,
    Blackfish, if you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it!

  112. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Michael:
    Hadn’t really thought about it, but I’m pretty sure there are only two dragon tails in that scene at the end…I’m guessing, Joreah hid with Drogon.Earlier they mentioned how Drogon liked her, so it seems very likely.

    So looks like from the summaries that this was the “invitation” to the House of the Undying, perhaps Jorah will advise her not to go there in Ep. 7 and Dany decides to go in Ep. 8?I’d still be surprised if the HOTU is the “Strange Place” mentioned in the summary for Ep. 10.

    Michael

    This was mentioned earlier by this one, but it is good to see a man also observed the same thing (2 tails, not 3). We shall see.

  113. T-Good
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Anybody feel that the title of the episode might have to do with Jaime?

  114. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    T-Good:
    Anybody feel that the title of the episode might have to do with Jaime?

    I’m positive it has to do with Jaime. Catelyn calls him “a man without honor” in their conversation in the dungeon.

  115. John
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    dmf: Arya probably wont give Jaqen another name just yet… as we know the last name is Jaqen’s and one, Tywin has not captured any Northern commanders yet, and two, Tywin is still there at all. Won’t happen until he rides south for Blackwater. My guess is episode 10 will feature this last “name”.

    Read the description for episode eight, “The Prince of Winterfell”–”Arya calls in her final debt with Jaqen in a way that displeases him.” The final name will happen there. Even if the episode description didn’t give it away, it can’t happen in the last episode because that’s the episode that Arya will presumably escape from Harrenhal, probably with at least Gendry and possibly Hot Pie too. She might not be in the penultimate episode at all, given that it will probably be dominated by the Battle of the Blackwater.

  116. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Brienne and Jaime remind me of Dunk & Egg.

  117. Winnie
    Posted May 11, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    Soooo, they are just going to leave Jon and Ygritte spooning all alone in the freezing cold? for a whole episode? Arg! that stinks….I really like Jon’s story line, but man I wish it would pick up, someone please tell me it does….and tell me that we should be seeing him a bit more than we have. It’s makin me nuts! :) (yes I am a tv watcher, just started the books, don’t hold it against me)
    Regardless, can’t wait till Sunday! Jaime is back and any scene with Tywin is a good one!

  118. Clabog
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    Don’t know if anyone has already said this, but I think the scene with Shae holding a knife to Sansa’s throat will be a dream sequence. Earlier in the teaser, they sow a quick clip of Sansa shooting up from her bed (probably) and she’s holding her throat. And that will definitely be when she wakes up to her bed covered in blood.

  119. Clabog
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    Don’t know if anyone has already said this, but I think the scene with Shae holding a knife to Sansa’s throat will be a dream sequence. Earlier in the teaser, they sow a quick clip of Sansa shooting up from her bed (probably) and she’s holding her throat. And that will definitely be when she wakes up to her bed covered in blood.

  120. sjwenings
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    Winnie: I really like Jon’s story line, but man I wish it would pick up, someone please tell me it does

    haven’t it already? Well, either way, it will, even more.

  121. Angel Andres
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    I wonder if during the intro sequence they’ll show the Kraken in Winterfell instead of the Direwolf. :/

  122. The Rabbit
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    Off topic:
    http://grrm.livejournal.com/279376.html
    GRRM somehow announced Froggy soon and confirmed the casting for S3 is in full swing.

    Am I the only one who thinks that they are started with casting process a bit earlier this year?

  123. mags
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 5:14 am | Permalink

    winnie

    i wish for more Jon too. Too little Kit this season. He did mention in an interview that ep 8 will be a ‘big’ episode for Jon.

    I wonder if maybe Ghost will have anything to do with getting Jon back to Half hand. It would be cool if he does. He kind of trails off in the last one.

  124. Drew
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    I have a theory about Talisa..

    I was looking into Jeyne Westerling the other day and found some interesting minor details about the character which is leading me to believe that the name ‘Talisa’ and the last name she gave in the last episode ‘maegi’ to be a false alias

    heres why…

    Jeyne Westerling’s mum, Sibel is not of Westerosi origin, here mother (Jeynes grandmother) was from Esso, possibly volantis, and heres the crack… Jeynes grandmother used to sell ‘love potions’ on the streets of Lannisport, they called her ‘maegi’ (the esso term for witch) and this woman… could very well be Maggy the Frog, the maegi who predicted Cersei’s future..

    I dont think Talisa is all that she says she is…

  125. PatD
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    I rewatched the last episode and caught something I didn’t pick up on the first time: did y’all notice that Tyrion pretty much confirms to Joff that Jaime is his father?

  126. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Angel Andres:
    I wonder if during the intro sequence they’ll show the Kraken in Winterfell instead of the Direwolf. :/

    This would be awesome! And then they can show the Flayed man of the Dreadfort when Ramsay takes over

  127. Nagga's Kin
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    darquemode:
    AJ,

    Even if the warlocks do not have her dragons Dany could have more than enough reason to go to House of the Undying anyway. Especially if they attempted to kill her people and steal her dragons, but were stopped by the mysterious cowled figure.

    The actor who played the cloaked man has a distinctive nostril.

  128. Cersei_Lancel
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    Cersei_Lancel,

    Eugene Simon in an interview:
    “Well, a lot of them have been congratulating me for having the guts to go onscreen, but given the fact that there are certain scenes that require a little bit more nudity I shouldn’t really be given much credit!”

    Does this mean we’ll see another nude scene?

  129. Carne
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Cersei_Lancel,

    I think he may be referring to other actors and actresses having more nude scenes than him.

  130. Phil
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu: Phil, No, that’s just a piss poor excuse of an explanation just like Dany’s entire storyline after AGOT is .

    It’s completely reasonable. And her storyline after AGoT makes perfect sense if you stop and think about it.

  131. Cersei_Lancel
    Posted May 12, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    What has the reaction been like from your family and friends who watch the show?
    Well, a lot of them have been congratulating me for having the guts to go onscreen, but given the fact that there are certain scenes that require a little bit more nudity I shouldn’t really be given much credit! There are a lot more scenes in the show that are a lot more demanding, but they’ve been nothing but supportive and I’m very grateful to them for that.

    Read more: http://uk.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/game_of_thrones_star_teases_sex_family/312254#ixzz1uhdb9HMp

    You think so?

  132. ela
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Tv guide interview with NCW: Game of Thrones’ Coster-Waldau: Jaime Feels Desperate and Really Loves Cersei.

    2×07 episode spoilers:

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Game-Thrones-Coster-Waldau-1047360.aspx

  133. Tino Rodriguez
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Azure Flame,

    Azure Flame,

    like the Jaime and Cersei thing is better?

  134. Tino Rodriguez
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Cersei_Lancel,

    book four. funny thing Is i just literally read the scene about a hour before i read your post. I think the gods are telling me something.

  135. Tino Rodriguez
    Posted May 13, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Icy Fingers,

    At least you have friends who watch the show. none of mine do.


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