Episode 19 – Blackwater – Open Chat
By Winter Is Coming on in Recap.

Only 6 hours to go until what may one of the most epic hours of television ever. “Blackwater” debuts tonight. Help while away the remaining hours until then by talking about the episode here. We’ll have our recap thread up for post-episode discussion and my reactions will be added as soon as I lift my jaw off the floor and put my eyeballs back in their sockets. Here are the episode details:

Writer: George R.R. Martin
Director: Neil Marshall
Runtime: 57 min
Synopsis: Tyrion and the Lannisters fight for their lives as Stannis’ fleet assaults King’s Landing.


234 Comments

  1. Tar Kidho
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    First! (and I have no more to say till I see the episode tomorrow evening)

  2. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    War. Is. Here… Well, not quite yet, but later tonight… You catch my drift.

  3. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Holy hell, Sophie Turner looks gorgeous here !

  4. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Counting the minutes, hoping we’ll see some other characters and locations before the battle begins (Jaqen and Arya pretty please…any ideas for drinking games this week? Take a sip every time somebody says “fire”??? Pretty awesome armor on Joffrey, a better photo of that is at the HBO.com site.

  5. Alae Lannister
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been waiting for BlackWater episode since the show aired.. It’s has to be EPIC!!

  6. sunspear
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    The previews gave me the impression that Varys is going to tell us the story of how he was castrated. Don’t you guys just love a good story?

    I’m hoping we get to see Sansa singing the mother’s song in the sept.

  7. marzman
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    hey, ho… let’s go. hey, ho… let’s go!!!

  8. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    sunspear:
    The previews gave me the impression that Varys is going to tell us the story of how he was castrated. Don’t you guys just love a good story?

    I’m hoping we get to see Sansa singing the mother’s song in the sept.

    Did that happen in ASOS or ACOK , i don’t remember . About Varys i mean .

  9. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Joffrey’s armor is badass, looks like half the budget might have went to making it.

  10. sunspear
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Both parts happened ACOK.

    By the way, on the trailer for the battle, did anyone here notice the funny part?

    Screen: Only two episodes left!

    Joffrey: There’s too many!

  11. The Red Wedding
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Sansa <3
    FTW man

  12. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    OT: Since you guys mentioned Joffrey , did you know that Jack Gleeson has recently joined twitter ?

  13. The Red Wedding
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    I hope we see Joffery shit his pants :p
    Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let’s go kill them!

  14. Jim Cross
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    I am quivering with anticipation

  15. MRR
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    A guess based on some of what we saw in one of the trailer’s for this week’s episode:
    Lancel, not Podrick, will save Tyrion. That’s just a complete guess, and I could be entirely wrong, but a) we haven’t really seen much of Podrick in the show, so giving him a “saves the day” moment might be pretty jarring to non-book readers, and b) Lancel and Tyrion have had a number of moments together this season, so playing up their relationship even more might make some sense..

    Again, that’s just a shot-in-the-dark guess, but it would make a fair bit of sense to me.

  16. The Red Wedding
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    What did everyone think of rains of castmere????? I though it was ok ,nothing fancy but fitted the mood

  17. nightwolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    MRR,

    I think its more likely Lancel will take Mandon Moore’s place and try to kill Tyrion.

  18. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if Tyrion will actually get to display his battle skills this time or will he conveniently be knocked on the head with a hammer this time and miss the whole thing.

  19. nightwolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    The Red Wedding,

    Not a Fan at all, and I really really wanted to like it.

  20. Mormegil
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    nightwolf: MRR, I think its more likely Lancel will take Mandon Moore’s place and try to kill Tyrion.

    Why namecheck MM last week then?

  21. Morgan King
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    The Red Wedding,

    Nothing fancy seems appropriate for a dour dirge. I thought it was spot-on, musically. The only thing that would improve it in my mind is for it to be sung with a British accent, to match the rest of the Westerosi on the show.

  22. nightwolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    I totally missed that!

  23. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    nightwolf:
    The Red Wedding,

    Not a Fan at all, and I really really wanted to like it.

    Seriously ? I think it’s awesome, it fits the mood perfectly and it’s way better than those other modern version ones on youtube .

  24. serum
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    a friend of mine works for a company that markets the GoT dvd’s and he’s already seen the last two episodes and said blackwater was amazing and that valar morghulis is even better, can’t wait for tonight and next sunday!!!!!

  25. Ser Dontos
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    It was Renly! It was Renly! It was Reny!

  26. nightwolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    I haven’t heard any other versions, I don’t know to me it sounds like the singer is phoning it in.

  27. Sarah
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    I have to wait a little while longer as the sky box stupidly decided to record last weeks ep this week and next week record this weeks one, Gargh stupid thing, but will hopefully watch it by other means . Hey it means that I have GOT a little longer

  28. Prankster
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    The opening of “Rains of Castemere” made me think they were about to burst into “Hurdy Gurdy Man”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg-n7Yfm6wQ&feature=fvst

    I mean, it’s a perfectly good tune, but I’m assuming that’s not the version they’re using on the show. Doesn’t sound medieval enough.

    So…the rumours appear to be true, that this entire episode is devoted to the battle of Blackwater, with no cutaways to the other subplots (i.e., no Bran, Arya, Jon, Robb, Dany, Cat or Jaime). On one level, that’s INCREDIBLY COOL, but on another, it means that everything else–especially Dany’s visit to the House of the Undying–is going to seem pretty rushed.

  29. Jillybean
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Arg! I can’t look under the spoiler tags on my mobile phone. We’re on the road headed home, should get there in plenty of time to see it. Most looking forward to… oh, everything. I’ll be back when I can get on an actual computer!

  30. MRR
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    nightwolf,

    Yeah, I had also considered the possibility that Lancel would take the role of Ser Moore, but the attempt on Tyrion’s life has less emotional resonance than the attempt to save it. As such, the attempted killer doesn’t need to be anyone we care about, but the person who saves him ought to be. The books don’t really tell us much about Mandon Moore – he’s just a faceless Kingsguard goon, and we don’t really know anything about him other than that – so I don’t see a problem with the fact that we haven’t heard much of him on the show either. All we really need to know about him is who likely put him up to the task. I actually think they might have Boros Blount do the job instead, since he’s much more recognizable as a villainous Kingsguard in the show, but… who knows?

    Then again, this is the episode GRRM wrote for this season, so it might stay pretty true to the books. We shall see…

  31. horse lord
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    I wont lie, I have the biggest crush on Sansa (im only 18 lol). The girl is just completely drop dead gorgeous!

  32. Icy Fingers
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    I have to wait till monday :( That’s what I get for being born English

  33. The Kingslayer
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Sarah,

    Erm you do realize Game Of Thrones is repeated all week on Sky Atlantic, hell it’s shown twice on Mondays.

  34. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    MRR:
    A guess based on some of what we saw in one of the trailer’s for this week’s episode:
    Lancel, not Podrick, will save Tyrion. That’s just a complete guess, and I could be entirely wrong, but a) we haven’t really seen much of Podrick in the show, so giving him a “saves the day” moment might be pretty jarring to non-book readers, and b) Lancel and Tyrion have had a number of moments together this season, so playing up their relationship even more might make some sense..

    Again, that’s just a shot-in-the-dark guess, but it would make a fair bit of sense to me.

    Yep just like when robb cut off Jaimie’s hand and Shae put that knife to Sansa neck. Every freaking week.

  35. The Red Wedding
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    horse lord:
    I wont lie, I have the biggest crush on Sansa (im only 18 lol). The girl is just completely drop dead gorgeous!

    Hear hear ,don’t we all

  36. Tomer Segal
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    I’m crossing my fingers that they will debut “Rains of Castamere” this episode. it could be beautifuly dramatic to play it with zero sound besides the song and zoom in on each character as they go into battle.

  37. The Red Wedding
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    @ night wolf I was also bit disappointed ,probably if some one well know had sung it

  38. Hexonx
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    I hope we have not hyped up this episode too much. Hard not to with all the praise the cast & crew have heaped on it. Crossing my fingers.

  39. Lex
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    Uncle Stannis is coming to dinner…

    So excited! Not just for the battle, but because GRRM wrote this episode himself.

    CAN’T WAIT!

    P.S. That photo is great. Love Joff’s armour, and Sansa looks amazing.

  40. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

    GOT is the most trended topic right now…well behind shiloh jolie-pitt.

  41. The Red Wedding
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Btw winter is coming ,love the new iPad version,much easier to view the site:).only criticism is that you might want to fix a few bugs I cannot Reply and Quote other people’s comments but other than that it is great

  42. Kaeth
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    MRR,

    I thought the same exact thing when i saw the trailer and the shot of lancel.

  43. Hollyoak
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Comments to come later from all of us lovable geeks:

    Battle wasn’t long enough.

    There wasn’t a chain.

    Not enough wildfire.

    It was shot too dark.

    And other assorted complaints!

  44. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak:
    Comments to come later from all of us lovable geeks:

    Battle wasn’t long enough.

    There wasn’t a chain.

    Not enough wildfire.

    It was shot too dark.

    And other assorted complaints!

    Counter arguments fro us show defender

    There is an only an hour in an hour

    There was a chain you just didn’t see it

    Do you know how expensive wildfire is.

    It was kind of dark

    and more!

  45. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    My only problem with the version of ‘The Rains of Castamere’ on the soundtrack was that the singer didn’t sound British enough. Other than that I thought it fit well with how it was described. It is not supposed to be upbeat. It is supposed to be sad and depressing. After all, it is a dirge.

  46. Brandon Stark
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    I can’t wait for the, “Whoever wrote this episode sucks!” complaints at the end.

    Anyway, I’m looking forward to this, particularly because of the prospect of more Sansa. Sophie Turner’s been brilliant but underused.

  47. Mike Chair
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    I’m watching Star Wars Return of the Jedi again and all I can think about is Blackwater.

    … that blast came from the Three Whores!

    … we can’t repel wildfire of that magnitude!

  48. LordStarkington
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak:
    Comments to come later from all of us lovable geeks:

    Battle wasn’t long enough.

    There wasn’t a chain.

    Not enough wildfire.

    It was shot too dark.

    And other assorted complaints!

    Don’t forget that goldcloak #226 had green eyes in the books but blue in the show

  49. Jaime Lannister
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Piss on your stupid chain. Jesus.

    Can’t wait to see who Davos faces off against, personally. I have a feeling he’ll cross swords with Bronn.

  50. DP
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    nightwolf,

    I think Bronn will take the place of Mandon Moore. When you think about it…he doesn’t do that much after the second book….

  51. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Kaeth:
    MRR,

    I thought the same exact thing when i saw the trailer and the shot of lancel.

    Episode 9 spoilers from people who have seen the episode: Mandon Moore does try to kill Tyrion and Podrick saves him.

  52. The Young Wolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    I’m too excited for this. It’s unhealthy. *Currently listening to Jaqen H’ghar’s Theme on YT*

  53. nightwolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    DP,

    I could definitely see that too, but apparently MM is in there. I’m thinking Bronns not going to make it

  54. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Wo! Methinks Jack Gleeson is reading this thread, he tweeted a photo of a GOT drinking game…this woman had mentioned a drinking game above, could it be?
    https://twitter.com/JackGleeson92/status/206837546536271873/photo/1

  55. The Young Wolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    I can’t help but laugh my ass off at Joffrey in armour.

  56. Steelyuhas
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait.

    Not only does this episode cover an awesome event, but GRRM’s season 1 episode was probably favorite one, I’m excited to see what he does with this one.

  57. Jaime Lannister
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Holy shit, Jack is witty…

    “what’s your favourite book?”

    “I hear Facebook is good. Only seen the cover, though.”

    <3

  58. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    Wo! Methinks Jack Gleeson is reading this thread, he tweeted a photo of a GOT drinking game…this woman had mentioned a drinking game above, could it be?
    https://twitter.com/JackGleeson92/status/206837546536271873/photo/1

    Ha that would be funny, I doubt it, but if he is

    Jack don’t quit acting you have a great future in it. You are awesome in this show. It would be a mistake to quit.

    End rant

  59. arglebargle
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    DP:
    nightwolf,
    I think Bronn will take the place of Mandon Moore. When you think about it…he doesn’t do that much after the second book….

    LOLWUT
    Away with ye, troll, fetch your memory.

  60. Megan
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    The Red Wedding,

    I dig it. What self-respecting hipster doesn’t love The National??

  61. OldGran
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Tried not to get too excited about Blackwater, but too late. I’m too excited. Just wish this ep was 2 hours long.

  62. Albus
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Who have seen it already?

  63. Sarah
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    It doesn’t show up for some reason it is really weird.

  64. Carne
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Happy to see that Ilyn Payne is back.

  65. Booey
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Disappointed there wasn’t the build up with creating the chain. Can’t wait to see all the fire!!!

  66. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Albus,

    There is a poster on this site who has seen it. He has been correct before about details from unaired episodes.

  67. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Booey:
    Disappointed there wasn’t the build up with creating the chain.Can’t wait to see all the fire!!!

    That is because there is no chain.

  68. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    OMG! Jack Gleeson just replied to my tweets!

    MrsH_ghar ‏@MrsH_ghar
    @JackGleeson92 Been trying to get a reply to my tweets to you, maybe I’m not tweeting properly…so hey Jack!

    6m Jack Gleeson ‏@JackGleeson92
    @MrsH_ghar sup.

    MrsH_ghar ‏@MrsH_ghar
    @JackGleeson92 What’s your favorite part about playing King Joffrey? Is the armor really heavy?

    4m Jack Gleeson ‏@JackGleeson92@MrsH_ghar the love I get from people.

    What a guy! My day is made…till tonight anyway!

  69. Coltaine777
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Looking forward to the Dogs reaction to the wildfire and the beach storming scene …

  70. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    OMG! Jack Gleeson just replied to my tweets!

    MrsH_ghar ‏@MrsH_ghar
    @JackGleeson92 Been trying to get a reply to my tweets to you, maybe I’m not tweeting properly…so hey Jack!

    6m Jack Gleeson ‏@JackGleeson92
    @MrsH_ghar sup.

    MrsH_ghar ‏@MrsH_ghar
    @JackGleeson92 What’s your favorite part about playing King Joffrey? Is the armor really heavy?

    4m Jack Gleeson ‏@JackGleeson92@MrsH_ghar the love I get from people.

    What a guy! My day is made…till tonight anyway!

    Ha, Long live King Joffrey. Screw the Starks

  71. LordStarkington
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    I sent him a pro-Joffrey tweet but no response, alas.

  72. Lex
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    OMG! Jack Gleeson just replied to my tweets!

    We have the best cast! I’ve had Twitter repllies from Bran, Hodor, and Syrio. :)

  73. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    LordStarkington:
    I sent him a pro-Joffrey tweet but no response, alas.

    Bet he got TONS of tweets and I hear they come pretty quicky for the celebs so they only can grab a few to answer. So thrilled I got a “sup” from the king! Even though this woman is Team Stark.

  74. MRR
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    House Snow,

    Huh? I haven’t made predictions “every freaking week”, and I’m openly admitting that they’re pure guesses. Also, you might want to consider the use of spoiler tags in your posts.

    Hollyoak:
    Comments to come later from all of us lovable geeks:

    Battle wasn’t long enough.

    There wasn’t a chain.

    Not enough wildfire.

    It was shot too dark.

    And other assorted complaints!

    I’m also expecting: Why wasn’t it greeeeeeen?

  75. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Lex: We have the best cast! I’ve had Twitter repllies from Bran, Hodor, and Syrio. :)

    So fun, right? I’m just figuring out twitter, don’t always get it right though, think I need a tutorial!

  76. Mirri Maz
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    i’m so fucking excited for this, it looks superb from the trailers and if it’s the entirety of the episode then it means we’ll get a good chunk of Sansa and Cersei in her room and a proper Sansa/Sandor moment.

    Also that picture is gorgeous and Sansa looks a lot like Cersei there with her hair down and the pose.

  77. Eooorrrr????
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    MRR:
    Mormegil,

    nightwolf,

    Yeah, I had also considered the possibility that Lancel would take the role of Ser Moore, but the attempt on Tyrion’s life has less emotional resonance than the attempt to save it. As such, the attempted killer doesn’t need to be anyone we care about, but the person who saves him ought to be. The books don’t really tell us much about Mandon Moore – he’s just a faceless Kingsguard goon, and we don’t really know anything about him other than that – so I don’t see a problem with the fact that we haven’t heard much of him on the show either. All we really need to know about him is who likely put him up to the task. I actually think they might have Boros Blount do the job instead, since he’s much more recognizable as a villainous Kingsguard in the show, but… who knows?


    Then again, this is the episode GRRM wrote for this season, so it might stay pretty true to the books. We shall see…

    I think you’re missing some of the big points of that event. The main thing was that it was a random kingsguard member who had never before shown inclinations of hating Tyrion or working for Cercsei, but then out of the blue tries to cut Tyrion’s head in half, and Tyrion’s only saved by his very odd and generally useless squire. Pod hasn’t had much to do, but he has more to do later on and at least him saving Tyrion makes sense, not crazy-incest teen whose being blackmailed into spying against the woman he loves. Don’t really see why he’d save Tyrion, Lancel should hate the guy.

    Plus it’d cut the scene where Lancel complains to the queen and she smashes him in his wound and almost kills him. I liked that scene.

  78. Johan Sporre
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    I’ve put my tv-set and sofa in order for a proper little GoT-party tomorrow after work :) I hope to see hundreds of “OMG!”-comments before then.

  79. Mirri Maz
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Prankster,

    Next week’s episode is 64 minutes ten minutes longer than the average episode so i’m sure they’ll be some room to breath. Robb/Cat/Theon/Jaime all don’t have much to do so it’ll probably be one scene for them and then we’ll spend the rest with Jon/Nights Watch an Danny where the majority of the action is.

  80. Carne
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: So fun, right? I’m just figuring out twitter, don’t always get it right though, think I need a tutorial!

    Tweeted him a couple of times, no replies :(

    Kristian Nairn (Hodor) is very friendly and re-tweet most people. Miltos Yerolemou (Syrio) also usually replies. A while back I asked him if he was interested in doing a Q&A over at Reddit, and he replied with “Sure! Just guide me through it :)”. He ended up answering questions for 3-4 hours. The next day he was back again answering because he felt bad about not responding to everyone. He replied to around 2000 questions. I was amazed 0_0.

    Amrita Acharia (Irri) also reply quite a lot. Same with Daniel Portman (Podrick Payne), Luke McEwan (Rast), Tony Way (Dontos Hollard) and Liam Cunningham (Davos Seaworth).

  81. Adrian
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Gaaahhhh I screwed that all up, I tried to put on spoiler tags, didnt see the button there. I sent a request to have it deleted, sorry.

  82. nightwolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if Dontos will show up tonight.

  83. NightsGator
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    The Red Wedding,

    Long time lurker, but this is my first post. It’s a dumb question. How do you access the iPad version of the site? In safari it looks like the normal web page (and it can’t read the spoiler tags). Is there something i need to do to get the iPad version to show? In Opera mini it doesn’t render properly at all and I can’t see anything. Thanks for any thoughts.

  84. Gay for Cersei
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Oh man, better ask my husband how to Tweet cuz if I do and get a reply from Lena Headey I can die content lol

    But seriously, that is cool, Mrs. H’ghar. The cast do seem good peeps. And I sure hope it’s LIES that Jack Gleeson will quit acting… whyyyyyy?? I’d love to see more from him in the future. Don’t do it, Jack!

  85. Rygar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    I just shaved every hair on my body in preparation for this battle. More aerodynamic. Go Team Joff Baratheon! Halfman! Halfman!

  86. Carne
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Gay for Cersei,

    It’s true, he said so himself in an interview. I think he wants to continue studying psychology or something like that.

  87. Gay for Cersei
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Davos is DA MAN!

    Just thought I’d put that out there…

  88. MRR
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Er, earlier when I said Boros Blount I meant Meryn Trant. Sometimes it’s hard to keep all of these characters straight. -_-

  89. Prankster
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Mirri Maz:

    Next week’s episode is 64 minutes ten minutes longer than the average episode so i’m sure they’ll be some room to breath. Robb/Cat/Theon/Jaime all don’t have much to do so it’ll probably be one scene for them and then we’ll spend the rest with Jon/Nights Watch an Danny where the majority of the action is.

    Didn’t know this was going to be an extra-long ep, that’s cool. (How long was the premiere? That was the last time we saw every single plot thread in a single episode, I believe…) I actually think they could trim Jaime/Brienne and Bran entirely from the episode if they had to; their stories have reached a natural pausing point for the time being. (Since I doubt Winterfell’s going to be burned down next week, there’s not really anything for Bran to do. And while watching Jaime and Brienne is always going to be entertaining, there’s no natural “climactic” element to their story.) Arya is obviously going to be there, since the episode’s called “Valar Morghulis”, and they’re probably going to do something with Theon to conclude his arc this season. Cat and Robb’s situation needs some kind of temporary resolution, but yeah, it could be done in a scene.

    I’m actually guessing that tonight’s episode ends with Tyrion taking an axe to the face (and all the non-book readers going, “ARRRRGH!!!”), then we’ll have a quick scene of Tyrion waking up and surveying the damage in the finale, but that’ll be all for now. Likewise, there may be a short scene of Davos post-shipwreck. We might also check in on Cersei and Sansa.

    But you’re right, with any luck the bulk of the episode will be devoted to Dany and Jon.

  90. MRR
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Eooorrrr????,

    You know that most of your post should be behind spoiler tags, right?

  91. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Gay for Cersei:
    Oh man, better ask my husband how to Tweet cuz if I do and get a reply from Lena Headey I can die content lol

    But seriously, that is cool, Mrs. H’ghar. The cast do seem good peeps. And I sure hope it’s LIES that Jack Gleeson will quit acting… whyyyyyy??I’d love to see more from him in the future.Don’t do it, Jack!

    Jack Gleeson has said he wants to study philosophy for awhile and has said he’d quit acting. Maybe after a break he’ll miss it and return, let’s hope so!

  92. ser lyonel the laughing storm
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I CAN’T FiND MY DICK!!!!!!

  93. Jill
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Cannot wait for the scene where Cersei drunkenly explains to Sansa why Illyn Pain is there.That is one of my all time favorite scenes in the book. I love it when Cersei goes Full-on Cersei.

  94. caro herrera
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    sophie turner also replies to her fans
    i hope we see dontos tonight trying to entretain the women at court so non-book readers can remember him for the next episode where it’s probable he may finally offer sansa the escape plan.
    anyways, SO excited!!! from bronn, the green fire, tyrion, cersei, ser illyn, davos and stannis they are all just going to be awesome! we are all in for one of the most epic hours of t.v. ever! and the anticipation of wondering what they did to the sansa/sandor scene is killing me!!! <3 please please hbo, allow us this last scene with them to be as perfect as it was in the book!

  95. Ser Lemon Cakes
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    I predict most of the post show complaints to be about Sansa, lack of or interactions with the Hound etc…battening down the hatches for that!

    Also Mads Mikkleson won best actor at Cannes, so chances of him joining the cast at some stage seem low.

  96. Michelle
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Guys. This is the second to last episode, then we have to wait a whole year. A WHOLE YEAR.

    The Gods are cruel indeed.

  97. Steel_Wind
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Eooorrrr????:


    I think you’re missing some of the big points of that event. The main thing was that it was a random kingsguard member who had never before shown inclinations of hating Tyrion or working for Cercsei

    And I think you are missing the same thing that Tyrion in the books missed: there is NO EVIDENCE that Cersei was the one who tried to have him killed. GRRM NEVER tells us who was behind it. Tyrion assumes it is Cersei, but even our seeing inside Cersei’s head does not confirm it.

    Who else? Littlefinger (unlikely), Tywin (unlikely), and — above all — Joffrey (the OTHER distinct possibility that Tyrion ignores). Indeed, direct and unsubtle is EXACTLY Joff’s style — remember Bran? And in the TV series — frankly — Joffrey calling for his own Kingsguard to make the hit makes a lot more sense, too. Joff does not like his Uncle at all and would be HAPPY to see him dead.

  98. Lyanna of Winterfell
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Ser Lemon Cakes:
    I predict most of the post show complaints to be about Sansa, lack of or interactions with the Hound etc…battening down the hatches for that!

    I actually think the showrunners are doing a great job of putting in SanSan scenes. I find it kind of funny how some fans imagine a much more detailed romance than is actually in the text– much like a certain little bird imagining a certain little kiss.

  99. Steel_Wind
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Michelle,

    If I can wait 11 years for A Dance with Dragons, I can wait 9 months for Season 3.

  100. Michelle
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind,

    I started the book series when ADwD came out, and the TV series when the first season was over. I’m too young to have patience!!!!

  101. ghost
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    When I was reading the books I was actually hoping that Tryion would die so Joffrey would lose the throne.

  102. sjwenings
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    I predict complaints from me (and others) about a lack of grandiosity. That might seem unfair to a tv-show, but if it looks like about 100 vs 100 people, then it would be a disappointment. And I saw nothing in the previews to ease my worries. I don’t need anything of a LOTR scale at all, just some (well, many) added CGI soldiers in the background in a couple of shots.

    I also predict a complaint from myself of a butchering/omittment of the Sandor/Sansa scene. Man! If they fuck us SanSanfans (not a shipper myself, just a fan) over AGAIN I’d be pretty pissed.

  103. Carne
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    There will be CG soldiers. And they used 400 extras.

  104. TheFrozenKing
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    been waiting for this one,GRRM knows his stuff so i doubt i can ever be disapointed from an episode he writes,hoping to see a bit more from the books in this one tho.

  105. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Lyanna of Winterfell: I actually think the showrunners are doing a great job of putting in SanSan scenes.I find it kind of funny how some fans imagine a much more detailed romance than is actually in the text– much like a certain little bird imagining a certain little kiss.

    I hope they include the Hound holding a knife to Sansa’s throat and threatening to kill her if she doesn’t sing him a song. Nothing screams romance quite like that.

  106. Carne
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    There is a promo pic of Sansa pushed up against a wall by Sandor.

  107. caro herrera
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    i’ve read people thinking that photo is from a deleted scene from episode 3, cause she is wearing a grey dress and tonight she’ll wear another gown. i’m not sure if you meant that that pic may be from tonight and him threatening to kill her if she doesn’t sing for him, but i think they did leave that scene for sansa’s bedroom rather than on the serpentine steps like in the pic cause of a little momemt in the preview where sansa is sitting in her room and turns around towards the door… so i’m guessing sandor will go to her rooms and she’ll already be there, unlike in the books :)

  108. Lucky Luke
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings:
    “I also predict a complaint from myself of a butchering/omittment of the Sandor/Sansa scene. Man! If they fuck us … over AGAIN I’d be pretty pissed.”

    Great, that means the rest of us will be spared your whining in the future. Go read the books again instead.

  109. Syrio
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil: Why namecheck MM last week then?

    Mormegil,

    Well, because MM still needs to die to open up a spot on the KG for Loras.

    So I agree, what is likely to happen is that MM dies offscreen in battle, but the attempt to kill Tyrion will be by Lancel.

  110. Andrija Andrew
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    PEOPLE OF WESTEROS
    Apparently there is a chain in this ep, someone spied it on one of the promo photos… Read it a few days ago in the comments section somewhere. I hope that means we won’t have Chain-gate :)

  111. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Andrija Andrew:
    PEOPLE OF WESTEROS
    Apparently there is a chain in this ep, someone spied it on one of the promo photos… Read it a few days ago in the comments section somewhere. I hope that means we won’t have Chain-gate :)

    Well, people who have seen the episode say that there is no chain. And I believe Westeros.org has confirmed this. People need to get over the damn chain.

  112. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind:
    Michelle,
    If I can wait 11 years for A Dance with Dragons, I can wait 9 months for Season 3.

    Just reading that makes my skin crawl. That’s more than half my life. Rrrgh.

    Here’s to hoping Blackwater is phenom.

  113. corbob10
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    The Game of Thrones Google+ account has a preview of episode 19 pretty high up the ‘Whats Hot’ stream on G+ right now. I wonder how much higher the ratings would be if we got it to the top…

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/117767050951281246525/posts

  114. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings:
    I predict complaints from me (and others) about a lack of grandiosity. That might seem unfair to a tv-show, but if it looks like about 100 vs 100 people, then it would be a disappointment. And I saw nothing in the previews to ease my worries. I don’t need anything of a LOTR scale at all, just some (well, many) added CGI soldiers in the background in a couple of shots.

    I also predict a complaint from myself of a butchering/omittment of the Sandor/Sansa scene. Man! If they fuck us SanSanfans (not a shipper myself, just a fan) over AGAIN I’d be pretty pissed.

    One would think SanSan fans had their fill at the riot episode? Wasn’t that a bonus scene for the SanSans? One might have to forgive GRRM if time does not allow the little bird to sing?A woman will hope for your dreams to come true.

  115. Winnie
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    I am desperately driving home to watch this episode! I need everyone in the Virginia/DC area to get the hell off the road! Iol
    Less than two hours left, I can’t wait!!

  116. Emmy Greene
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    it’s easier to tweet back when all you have to say is “hodor!” LOL

  117. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    corbob10:
    The Game of Thrones Google+ account has a preview of episode 19 pretty high up the ‘Whats Hot’ stream on G+ right now.I wonder how much higher the ratings would be if we got it to the top…

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/117767050951281246525/posts

    I put it earlier on the thread but GOT is trending pretty high according to sites that track that stuff, right behind the Jolie-Pitt kid

  118. Andrew
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    I’m super psyched for this episode! My friends are on their way over right now, and they’re bringing the Dairy Queen and chips. It’s gonna be a good night. I really hope they include Sansa kind of taking charge in the Holdfast when Cersei storms off, because I think that’s a really cool and important moment for her and for Cersei. I also seriously hope they don’t kill Bronn, now that he’s taken the place of Jacelyn Bywater. That would be tragic.

  119. Mormegil
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Syrio: Mormegil, Well, because MM still needs to die to open up a spot on the KG for Loras.So I agree, what is likely to happen is that MM dies offscreen in battle, but the attempt to kill Tyrion will be by Lancel.

    Joff already has 10 members of his Kingsguard, he can easily add Loras without any of the others dying. Saying that MM does die after trying to kill Tyrion.

  120. Langkard
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Going to be a great evening of TV. Sadly, a bad cold is making me miserable while I wait. I went to the store to get something to help; but they didn’t have any “cures colds in 2 hours” medicine. What are we in the Dark Ages? I demand instant cures to accompany my instant gratification. Pfft.

  121. Lucky Luke
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: Well, people who have seen the episode say that there is no chain. And I believe Westeros.org has confirmed this. People need to get over the damn chain.

    I agree, the important thing is that they manage to turn the tide of the battle, like in the book. This change will also make it more interesting for us who have read the books. I think it’s good that the writers deviate from the books. It’s important to keep in mind that GoT is an adaptation. Many of the changes they’ve made in S2 make sense, and some of the changes have been great (Arya’s scenes with Tywin, for example).

  122. Blourd
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m wondering how they’re going to portray Tyrion’s severe face wound since the viewers will have to live with it for however many seasons remain.

  123. SkywalkerIsDead
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Ser Lemon Cakes:
    I predict most of the post show complaints to be about Sansa, lack of or interactions with the Hound etc…battening down the hatches for that!

    Also Mads Mikkleson won best actor at Cannes, so chances of him joining the cast at some stage seem low.

    Because GRRM wrote this episode I am hoping he does the San/San storyline some justice.

  124. DB
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    I am ready for the SanSan

  125. andrea
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,
    I would recommend you take warm red wine with honey and you wrap up in blankets for a moment. This will make you sweat (and boozy, and dizzy), but in two hours you´ll be fine. And it´s a proper medieval remedy some would say (courtesy of Catholic Church I think).

  126. DB
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Also expecting some manly tears from Sandor

  127. Aaron
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Tbh the only change from the books I’ve cared about so far is the absence of the best quote in the whole series IMO ‘When the sun has set no candle can replace it’.

  128. Andrew
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Aaron,

    That doesn’t happen till the next book, when Loras joins the Kingsguard.

  129. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    I don’t care about no chain unless there’s boobies engraved on it.

  130. nightwolf
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    Milk of the poppy will clear that right up

  131. Elaine Hume Peake
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Addicted.

  132. Dave Brownell
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Gonna curl up with some Honeyed Milk, Maester Pycelle style

  133. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    So ready! I was hoping that reading all the comments would take longer than ten minutes though. My clock appears to be slowing down damnit!

  134. Queensmoot
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    40 minutes!

  135. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    3o….

  136. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    25 minutes! This is going to be awesome!

  137. Adrian
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    If I have to read the phrase “SanSan” again I swear to god I’m going to be sick.

    He is a full grown man, and a goddamn murderer, and she is a CHILD.

  138. Aaron
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Andrew:
    Aaron,

    That doesn’t happen till the next book, when Loras joins the Kingsguard.

    Seriously? Woooow, okay, I thought he said that to Margaery after Renly died. My hopes are up!

  139. Eooorrrr????
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind: And I think you are missing the same thing that Tyrion in the books missed: there is NO EVIDENCE that Cersei was the one who tried to have him killed.GRRM NEVER tells us who was behind it.Tyrion assumes it is Cersei, but even our seeing inside Cersei’s head does not confirm it.


    Who else? Littlefinger (unlikely), Tywin (unlikely), and — above all — Joffrey (the OTHER distinct possibility that Tyrion ignores). Indeed, direct and unsubtle is EXACTLY Joff’s style — remember Bran? And in the TV series — frankly — Joffrey calling for his own Kingsguard to make the hit makes a lot more sense, too.Joff does not like his Uncle at all and would be HAPPY to see him dead.

    Hey, i never considered that. Makes more sense though, thanks

  140. Jaime Lannister
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Adrian,

    mad

  141. scaragh
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Say, what’s with some of the negativity here? I’m a big fan of the books, but also big fan of the show – what they’ve followed and what they’ve changed. Good suspense even when I think I know where the story is going.

    I just love everything. So excited for this….chain, no chain, Moore, no Moore, nose, no nose, San, no San…come hell or Blackwater, tonight is going to be awesome!

  142. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Adrian,

    so like that has never happen before…

    get over it.

  143. the goat
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    MY BODY IS THIS FUCKING READY

    http://i48.tinypic.com/1zyih41.gif

    Radiohead pre-party is always the correctest possible decision.

    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_l5kZB8_Isg/0.jpg

    you made a pig’s ear,
    you made a mistake
    paid off security and got through the gate
    you got away with it
    but we lie in WAIT

  144. Mike Chair
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    scaragh: So excited for this….chain, no chain, Moore, no Moore, nose, no nose, San, no San…come hell or Blackwater, tonight is going to be awesome!

    This.

  145. LordStarkington
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    scaragh:
    Say, what’s with some of the negativity here? I’m a big fan of the books, but also big fan of the show – what they’ve followed and what they’ve changed. Good suspense even when I think I know where the story is going.

    I just love everything. So excited for this….chain, no chain, Moore, no Moore, nose, no nose, San, no San…come hell or Blackwater, tonight is going to be awesome!

    Keep in mind that at least some of it is sarcastic

  146. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    the goat:
    MY BODY IS THIS FUCKING READY

    http://i48.tinypic.com/1zyih41.gif

    Radiohead pre-party is always the correctest possible decision.

    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_l5kZB8_Isg/0.jpg

    you made a pig’s ear,
    you made a mistake
    paid off security and got through the gate
    you got away with it
    but we lie in WAIT

    Loved that first gif! Sets the tone, LET’S DO THIS!!!!!

    20…

  147. SkywalkerIsDead
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    I’m was also hoping they show Tyrion’s post-battle scar, but they probably won’t. They will down play it like they have with all the characters that possess disfigurements.

  148. Steel_Wind
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Blourd:
    I’m wondering how they’re going to portray Tyrion’s severe face wound since the viewers will have to live with it for however many seasons remain.

    It is for that very reason that I suspect it will be as long-lasting as his last field wound at the battle of the Greenkfork.

    It isn’t really necessary for the story, it adds to make-up complexity and all it will do is make some book readers happy — while some others will complain about why half his nose isn’t CGI’d out in every scene Tyrion is in.

    Moreover — and most of all — the extra make-up will just end up pissing off their #1 actor. To what end?

    No end. It’s not going to wind up as a permanent scar.

  149. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Adrian:
    If I have to read the phrase “SanSan” again I swear to god I’m going to be sick.

    He is a full grown man, and a goddamn murderer, and she is a CHILD.

    May I introduce you to 90-something-year-old Lord Walder Frey and his newest wife, FIFTEEN-year-old Joyeuse Erenford? Compared to them, the age difference between Sansa and Sandor doesn’t seem so big, now does it? And by Westerosi standards, she is a woman, fit to be wedded and bedded. Also, did you make this same argument against Dany and Drogo? No? Then why are you making it now?

    ETA: 15 minutes!

  150. Morgan King
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    I’m no purist, but the scar is pretty important to Tyrion’s character. It’s a constant reminder of his family and his past that he can’t escape. I don’t care if it’s a full-on missing nose, but he needs SOMETHING to remind him when he’s halfway across the world.

  151. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    SkywalkerIsDead:
    I’m was also hoping they show Tyrion’s post-battle scar, but they probably won’t or they will down play it like they have a lot of the characters with deformities.

    Well, they didn’t give him different colored contacts for the eyes and he’s not an ugly cretin like the Tyrion in the book, so perhaps they’ll downplay any facial scars or injuries so Dinklalge doesn’t have to spend 12 hours in the makeup trailer every day? One has to be practical, but I would bet there will be some lasting damage that will stick with him.

  152. Stark Bannerman
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Close now, so close…one more drink before the war?

  153. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    10 Minutes!!!

  154. scaragh
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome: May I introduce you to 90-something-year-old Lord Walder Frey and his newest wife, FIFTEEN-year-oldJoyeuse Erenford? Compared to them, the age difference between Sansa and Sandor doesn’t seem so big, now does it?

    Right…but isn’t that supposed to be a really gross and repulsive relationship? Not a very strong argument to compare your favorite couple to one of the nastiest ones in the series.

  155. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    10…

  156. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    scaragh,

    True, but the point I was trying to make was that Sansan is actually one of the less objectionable couples in the series. And that if he wants relationships that are acceptable by modern-day standards, he is reading the wrong series! For comparison purposes, I pointed out a more accepted pairing (both in-universe and out) in Dany/Drogo.

  157. Richard Weetabix
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    scaragh,

    Yep. Even in Westeros, a 75-year age difference raises some eyebrows.

    As for Sansan, that’s as about as idiotic and inappropriate a romantic pairing as I can think of.

  158. Gary Vasut
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Cannot wait for this to air….. I know the show doesn’t have the budget to do so, but this part in the book puts Helm’s Deep to shame

  159. Megan
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    Yeah, but at least we see Dany/Drogo’s relationship get beyond the rapey bit….

  160. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    T- minus 5 minutes till Hear ME ROAAAAAAR!
    #BLACKWATERISCOMING!
    #Blackwater #GameOfThrones

  161. DB
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Haters stay pressed
    SANSAN FTWWW

  162. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Megan,

    A ‘rapey bit’ is also something that Sansan does not have, so if anything it should be more acceptable than Dany/Drogo.

  163. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    And this whole discussion is hypothetical anyways, as Sandor is (presumably) dead

  164. ser lyonel the laughing storm
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Purp! Activate!

  165. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    On a different note: 1 minute!!!!!!!!!

  166. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    T- minus 1 minute till Hear ME ROAAAAAAR! #BLACKWATERISCOMING!
    #Blackwater #GameOfThrones

  167. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    LETS DO THIS!!!! BLACKWATER HERE WE COME!!!!!!

  168. Lyanna of Winterfell
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    And this whole discussion is hypothetical anyways, as Sandor is (presumably) dead

    Or he’s the gravedigger

  169. Quorin Halfhand
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Permalink
  170. J
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    Huh? I clearly remember the Hound later telling Arya that he planned to rape Sansa when he went to her bedchambers.

  171. caro herrera
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    Megan,

    we also see to some extent sansa and sandor’s relationship going beyond the rapey bit i think you are refering to, with sansa comparing him to almost every man she knows, feeling resentful he only took a song and a kiss and left her nothing but a bloody cloak, imagining a kiss between them that didn’t happen, dreaming of him, wondering if she wasn’t wise at not going away with him…
    clearly she isn’t in love with him, but i’ve never seen her feeling hate towards him,

  172. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Nudity is back!

  173. Megan
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    caro herrera,

    hahaha, alright alright, I’m just being a pain in the butt :)

  174. Scholesy
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    scaragh,

    True, but the point I was trying to make was that Sansan is actually one of the less objectionable couples in the series. And that if he wants relationships that are acceptable by modern-day standards, he is reading the wrong series! For comparison purposes, I pointed out a more accepted pairing (both in-universe and out) in Dany/Drogo.

    Not really. It is completely objectionable.

  175. the goat
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Oops, forgot the vid link

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKUqoRFWCAk

    also, its 6:04 here, so enjoy yoselves, if you watchin!!

  176. caro herrera
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Megan,

    lol :D

  177. Nagga's Kin
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Langkard:
    Going to be a great evening of TV.Sadly, a bad cold is making me miserable while I wait.I went to the store to get something to help; but they didn’t have any “cures colds in 2 hours” medicine.What are we in the Dark Ages?I demand instant cures to accompany my instant gratification. Pfft.

    On the bright side of life : you’re not dead yet!

    JK, get well soon!

  178. Weirwood
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Rains of Castamere!

    A song before the war……

  179. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Oh nooooooooooes, Hound vs. Bronn…..oh wait, there’s the bells….saved by the bell!

  180. Weirwood
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    And Tyrion is wearing a chain….. one down…. one to go….

  181. Klavonivs
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Finally, the king’s hand necklace!!!!

  182. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Scholesy: Not really. It is completely objectionable.

    Yeah, I don’t think anyone is objecting to the age difference; it’s the power and weird emotional fuckery.

  183. Scholesy
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    ThePinkDragon: Yeah, I don’t think anyone is objecting to the age difference; it’s the power and weird emotional fuckery.

    Exactly.

  184. Suzaku
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Apart from being an arranged marriage (those still happen to this day) there was nothing “odd” about it. Especially in the book, where Drogo’s repetition of “no?” led to Dany saying “yes” and guiding his hand.

  185. LordStarkington
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Wildfire explosion = sublime

  186. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    That was terrifyingly beautiful.

  187. Royboy
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Do we have a chain sighting? Trapping the ships?

  188. oddlyotter
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Amazing fireworks! And I love drunk cersei heh

  189. Weirwood
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Book purists are going to call for the writers head. Oh, wait…..

  190. Ms.Stormborn
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    The Pod has finally spoken!

  191. Skid Marx
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    No Chain?! Was one of the coolest strategic maneuvers by Tyrion…. And they left it out!

    So far, though: loved the Bronn/Tyrion bromance in full bloom.

    Ooooh the Hound almost danced with Bronn before the battle….

    The wildfire was cool… But for some reason I didn’t think of it as a flammable liquid, that had had to be lit…. I imagined it as LIQUID FLAME!

    I wanna see The Hound strangle that guy with his own guts! Woah The
    Hound just said FUCK THE KING!? This is heavy duty!

    Given the constraints of the budget, blahblahblah… I am still loving this

  192. Scholesy
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Skid Marx:
    No Chain?!Was one of the coolest strategic maneuvers by Tyrion…. And they left it out!

    So far, though:loved the Bronn/Tyrion bromance in full bloom.

    OooohtheHound almost danced with Bronn before the battle….

    The wildfire was cool… But for some reason I didn’t think of it as a flammable liquid, that had had to be lit…. I imagined it as LIQUID FLAME!

    I wanna see The Hound strangle that guy with his own guts!Woah The
    Hound just said FUCK THE KING!?This is heavy duty!

    Given the constraints of the budget, blahblahblah… I am still loving this

    Only GoT could complain about anything in this episode.

  193. Richard Weetabix
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    ThePinkDragon,

    Yes! Thank you for putting it so well.

  194. ThePinkDragon
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Drunken Cersei is like that loud, horrible aunt no one wants around at Christmastime.

  195. Skid Marx
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Scholesy,

    You see anyone complain?

    Cersei sitting on the Iron Throne? With Tommen on her knee? Need to examine that last couple of scenes…. Weirdly reminiscent if Lysa Aren sitting in the Eyrie with Robert on her knee (and at her teet).

    And awesome effect slicing open Tyrion’s face… The swelling around the wound… Along with the guy getting the top half of his head sliced off just before…. WOW!

  196. Jason Willis
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    this episode was perfection

  197. AshStorm
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Fan-freaking-tastic!

  198. Scholesy
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Skid Marx:
    Scholesy,

    You see anyone complain?

    The Chain, the chain!!!!

  199. Michelle
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Wow, that wildfire was just too intense @_@

  200. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    ThePinkDragon:
    Drunken Cersei is like that loud, horrible aunt no one wants around at Christmastime.

    Hey, easy there, I’m that aunt. That was some hour, woo, have to watch it again immediately!

  201. Weirwood
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    I can’t wait for the season finale….. then the interminable wait for the next season.

  202. DanofhouseStark
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    That episode was perfection, seriously if you find something to complain about there you must lead a completely joyless life

  203. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Lyanna of Winterfell,

    which is why I put probably (I believe that he is indeed the gravedigger)

  204. Lord's Kiss
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Damn good episode. You could tell that grrm wrote this with all the great quotes

    Stannis first up the ladder was great

  205. andrea
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    please… Who sang at the end of the episode? It was great.

    Talking about great singers…Cersei´s piano has been drinking again.
    And talking about talking…Pod!

  206. David
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    That episode was badass. Can’t wait to watch it in HD.

  207. AshStorm
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Halfman! Halfman! Halfman!

  208. ser lyonel the laughing storm
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    That contained all seven aspects of swag

  209. House Snow
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Wow the wildfire was as good as I could imagine. Very holy sh#t.

  210. Weirwood
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    So Tyrion will have a severe scar from now on. So glad he kept his nose.

  211. JRQ
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    That sounded like Matt Berninger of The National singing at the end (!)….can anyone confirm?

  212. Scholesy
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    JRQ:
    That sounded like Matt Berninger of The National singing at the end (!)….can anyone confirm?

    Yes it was.

  213. Blasfal
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    I can’t believe there is only one episode left. Do we have to wait a year? What will happen first, a new book or a new season?

    I agree Weirwood.. So glad Tyrion kept his nose!

  214. LionOfLannister
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    That was certified badass!

  215. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    I just shaved every hair on my body in preparation for this battle.More aerodynamic.Go Team Joff Baratheon!Halfman!Halfman!

    LOL! Eyebrows too?

  216. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    Winnie: I am desperately driving home to watch this episode! I need everyone in the Virginia/DC area to get the hell off the road! Iol
    Less than two hours left, I can’t wait!!

    Sweetheart – Stop Tweeting While Driving!

  217. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Langkard:
    Going to be a great evening of TV.Sadly, a bad cold is making me miserable while I wait.I went to the store to get something to help; but they didn’t have any “cures colds in 2 hours” medicine.What are we in the Dark Ages?I demand instant cures to accompany my instant gratification. Pfft.

    Pseudoephedrine. Check with your friendly neighborhood meth dealer. :-)

  218. Winnie
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Yellow Dog,

    Husband was driving, I was begging him to get us home in time….and we made it! 2 mins to spare :)

  219. Blourd
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Only way to make that episode better would be to double its length.

    Fantastic.

  220. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    Did we just lose 100 comments?

  221. Epicurean
    Posted May 27, 2012 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Now that one, friends, is what you call a Ten.

    It worked for a bunch of reasons, especially focus. Finally we don’t have to flicker abruptly between a huge set of unrelated plots. Everything was about just one thing. When everything comes together is when it works.

  222. dragonlady admirer
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Halfman is the MAN. A truly great episode. I liked how they did the ending, first Renlys gay lover comes in, then they show Stanis losing and then Tywin:”we have won!”
    booya!!!

    on top of this there should have been an impslap

  223. Joh
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 2:03 am | Permalink

    That’ll do, HBO. That’ll do.

    best hour of television I ever saw in my life.

    Also, as a historical re-enactor I was hella impressed with their depiction of medeival style warfare.

    Lena Headey should get all the awards. All of them. ’cause everyone already knows that Dinklage is awesome.

    Nothing made me feel as sorry for Sansa as her having to put up with hilariously bad womanly advice from drunken Cersei.

    Unrelated…but why is the show making me love Shae? Damn. Thanks HBO.
    That is going to hurt like a kick to the face when…well…just nevermind. We won’t mention that plot yet.

  224. DjWeideman
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 4:53 am | Permalink

    A+ Episode. Given that D&D had to go hat in hand to HBO to get the extra money for this episode I hope that not only do they feel the money was well-spent but that they’ll loosen up a bit more next season. Although I’d be happier if they’d maybe loosen up and give them 2 more episodes per season.

    Wildfire was better than I would have believed. Watching the Hound try to muscle his way through his terror at the uncontrolled fires was sublime. My heart went out to Sansa for the first time tonight, Sophie really nailed that feeling of the bird in her velvet trap. The battle on the beach was epic and bloody. This is probably the only time I’ll root for Shae. And Tyrion’s observation of Stannis’ reinforcements was priceless.

    If only more television were this good. Bravo, D&D.

  225. Balerion
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    Come on, let’s give HBO and B&W a round of applause!!

  226. Vikestad
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 6:28 am | Permalink

    Btw, moderators. Check the New Viewer recap. Some book readers….

  227. Chris
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Talk about “ALMOST”s!
    The Hound and Bronn ALMOST mixed up but… just when they were about to go at it, yup, the bells.
    Cersei ALMOST got a little too much info for Shae’s safety but… just when she was about to ask that crucial question, yup, interrupted again. And then, along comes Tywin! Well I think he and Shae will get along just fine! ;-)

  228. Epicurean
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Why did Martin have the Hound come gunning for the Bronn?

  229. Jon Glorioso
    Posted May 28, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Epicurean:Why did Martin have the Hound come gunning for the Bronn?

    Because Martin has written for TV before and he loves to toy with our expectations :D

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    Posted May 28, 2012 at 10:50 pm | Permalink
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    Icy Fingers,

    I sympathise Fingers but it’s worse being in the UK and refusing to pay Mr M for Sky Atlantic!!

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