Episode 20 – Valar Morghulis – Open Chat
By Winter Is Coming on in Recap.

Only a few hours to go now, until the season two finale of Game of Thrones. Continue the discussion here and we’ll have our recaps up as soon as the (64 minute long!) episode ends. Here are the details:

Writers: David Benioff & D.B. Weiss
Director: Alan Taylor
Runtime: 64 min
Synopsis: Tyrion awakens to a changed situation. King Joffrey doles out rewards to his subjects. As Theon stirs his men to action, Luwin offers some final advice. Brienne silences Jaime; Arya receives a gift from Jaqen; Dany goes to a strange place; Jon proves himself to Qhorin.


201 Comments

  1. Michael
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    1st

  2. lonas
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    2nd

  3. kennedyj10
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    I gotta be honest, the synopsis gave a lot away.

  4. Conor
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    No mention of Stannis, Hope we get a short scene or two of the aftermath of Blackwater.

    So excited for this episode!!

  5. Queensmoot
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait for the House of the Undying!

  6. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Probably more excited about this episode than I was for Blackwater. What I’m not excited about is the long wait for season three.

  7. Synnerman
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Only 64 minutes, then another 10 month wait…

  8. ace
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    For the non-bookreaders, the first statement of the episode description ended speculation if Tyrion survived or not

  9. sunspear
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    “Arya receives a gift from Jaqen”

    Kind of a scary phrase for people who have read the books. :)

  10. The Young Wolf
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    A man hopes this isn’t the last we see of Jaqen H’ghar.

  11. Knurk
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Enjoy it people, it’ll be a long wait before the new season.

  12. sbj2k1
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    If I watch 12.8 seconds of this final episode each day, I should finish in time for the season 3 premiere. Time to ration #GameOfThrones.

  13. Andrew
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Only a few more hours before I start contemplating how big a concussion i’d need to go unconcious for 10 months. This is terrible. :( By the time season 3 rolls around, i’ll probably have the series read another dozen times. This is gonna kill me.

    But seriously can’t wait for all the stuff going to happen tonight. I want to know what the hell happened to Doreah. If she betrays Dany, I will scream “SHE TRUSTED YOU!!!!” at the television without a second thought, before breaking down into tears.

  14. Padraig O'Faolain
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    i only post this here because i cant find discussion on it anywhere. why doesnt stannis have lightbringer? im really disapointed stannis doesnt have it

  15. J
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    The Young Wolf:
    A man hopes this isn’t the last we see of Jaqen H’ghar.

    It shouldn’t be. Probably the last we’ll see of Tom Wlaschiha though, unfortunately.

  16. Randy Cotter
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    The Young Wolf,

    Lol, that depends on G.R.R. I hope so too.

  17. RamsayIsComing:)
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Oh we will see Jaqen again…. but not as we see him now….

  18. Albus
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    ace,

    I think most knows that Tyrion survived. It was only a slash of face…..not a split of the skull or anything (like all of Cleganes kills)…

    Anyway super-psyched for this episode…as a reader of the books, I still have no idea how far they intent they will go in everyones story. Witch makes it very exciting!!!

  19. Danmire
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    I wonder what they’re going to do in the House of Undying

    Probably Robb Stark/Grey Wind death vision, sure, but what about Rhaegar and Elia? Actors portraying them? Or just voices?

  20. Clabog
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Think we will see Stannis and Mel tonight! Carice Van Houten said awhile back the episodes she is in this season, and the finale is one of them. I wonder if they’ll allude to Stannis going to the Wall? Or if they’ll save that for a big surprise?

    Can’t wait!!

  21. Andrew
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Padraig O’Faolain,

    He does have it, it just doesn’t glow all the time. It would be really hard to basically have to do a Lightsabre-lite effect every time Stannis has his sword out, so I assume they’ll just have it glow at certain points, like after someone is sacrificed to the flames or something.

  22. Jaime Lannister
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    It’s a good thing Bolton’s bastard is coming to sort Theon out and save Winterfell. Always nice to have a positive ending…

  23. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Danmire,

    I don’t expect any visions or prophecies. I already know there aren’t any Rhaegar visions.

  24. Sword In Darkness
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Οbviously the final scene will be

    One blast of the horn – Rangers returning
    Two blasts of the horn- Wildlings
    Three blasts of the horn- Others…

  25. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    A woman hopes Jaqen will appear again, perhaps he should have his own spin-off show if not continuing? A woman is watching the marathon and anticipating a rousing finale!

  26. sunspear
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Padraig O’Faolain,

    They blew the budget on Blackwater, they didn’t have enough money to make Lightbringer glow whenever he was using it.

  27. sunspear
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    A woman hopes Jaqen will appear again, perhaps he should have his own spin-off show if not continuing?

    Better idea, make a hitman-style video game where you play as Jaqen H’ghar. That would probably be even better that the RPG they’re coming out with.

  28. Lyonel the Red
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    I can’t wait too see Ser Barristan again. It’ll be in the episode. It is known.

  29. ...
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    These days GoT has become my sinful activity in the middle of all the university exams. Bring it on! (secretly hoping for them to keep all the stuff in HotU)

  30. Felix & Gotrek
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    GRRM should play Tormund Giantsbane. Also I wonder if they will show the dwarves ravishing the women in the HOTU

  31. Langkard
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Andrew:
    Only a few more hours before I start contemplating how big a concussion i’d need to go unconcious for 10 months. This is terrible. :( By the time season 3 rolls around, i’ll probably have the series read another dozen times. This is gonna kill me.

    But seriously can’t wait for all the stuff going to happen tonight. I want to know what the hell happened to Doreah. If she betrays Dany, I will scream “SHE TRUSTED YOU!!!!” at the television without a second thought, before breaking down into tears.

    Since cryogenics is only a science in its infancy and doctors frown at people asking to be put into an induced coma just for a television series hiatus, I’ve decided the best way to pass the time is to read more. Re-reading ASoIaF will take a month or so. Then I think I might re-read all of the Malazan books. There. Only 7 more months to go! Er… maybe I should renew my library card. /facepalm

  32. The Young Wolf
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Damn these spoilers are so tempting, I need to hurry up and finish the books.

  33. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    sunspear: Better idea, make a hitman-style video game where you play as Jaqen H’ghar. That would probably be even better that the RPG they’re coming out with.

    A woman likes the way you think! Make it so!

  34. Macha
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Andrew:
    Padraig O’Faolain,

    It would be really hard to basically have to do a Lightsabre-lite effect every time Stannis has his sword out…

    Come on, you’ve gotta admit Stannis has it in him!

  35. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    OT: Great article on the second season of Game of Thrones, courtesy of the A.V. Club.

  36. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    So how does everyone pronounce ‘Valar Morghulis’? Is it Val-are More-goo-lis?

  37. Johan Sporre
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    I’m very curious about Doreah. I hope she’s still alive and on Dany’s side.

  38. Langkard
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    So how does everyone pronounce ‘Valar Morghulis’? Is it Val-are More-goo-lis?

    I pronounce it Val-are More-gull-is

  39. Steelyuhas
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait for 64 minutes of Alan Taylor directed goodness.

  40. Macha
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    On another note, what the eff? It feels like only yesterday Natalie Dormer was cast.
    Oh well, it’s time like these one is happy to be living in Europe, I get to cling on to this season for one more day.

  41. MRR
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    So I’m guessing most of the Jaqen H’ghar fans using his name (or a part of it) as their forum identity don’t know that the name is just part of an assumed identity.

  42. Juan
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Will we ge to see Arstan Whitebeard? Please!!!
    What exactly will happen at Winterfell? The Bastard can’t take the castle since he isn’t cast yet! Or will it be Dagmer? (I don’t think so…)
    Hope we get a glimpse of the White Walkers and the Wights...

    64mins, the longest yet!

  43. Lex
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Can’t believe it’s June, and that we’re already at the finale. Seriously, where did the last two months go?!?

  44. Mike Chair
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Felix & Gotrek: GRRM should play Tormund Giantsbane.

    GRRM should finish the effing series.

    Danmire: I wonder what they’re going to do in the House of Undying

    I have no high expectations for the HotU. I’m expecting the D&D version of the Reader’s Digest version. HotU in 2 minutes. FunHouse of the Undying, if you will.

  45. MRR
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Juan:

    64mins, the longest yet!

    Sadly that 64 minutes includes the “Previously this season” montage at the start, but it’s still a nice, long episode.

  46. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    ,

    Not to worry, you’re not the only one who is putting off studying for finals in favor of GoT ; )

  47. Prince that was promised
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    It’s Val-are-more-goo-lis.

  48. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    MRR:
    So I’m guessing most of the Jaqen H’ghar fans using his name (or a part of it) as their forum identity don’t know that the name is just part of an assumed identity.

    And how does a man or woman know what is the true identity? Is it important? Perhaps same name, other face, or same face – other name, new face – new name, who is to say for sure which is true?

  49. Prince that was promised
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Lyonel the Red,

    It is known

  50. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Prince that was promised,

    Your screen name makes me sad that we won’t hear it in the show.

  51. MRR
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: And how does a man or woman know what is the true identity? Is it important? Perhaps same name, other face, or same face – other name, new face – new name, who is to say for sure which is true?

    Is there a reason you removed my spoiler tags when you quoted me?

    In any case, he fairly explicitly says that “Jaqen H’ghar must die” when he changes his identity, and what we learn later on in AFFC about the assumed identities of the Faceless Men suggests very strongly that there would be nothing “true” about any identity they assume.

  52. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Stop it! you are making my head hurt! (jk)

  53. Juan
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    MRR,

    All the previous 50-something min episodes did too. They include the credits and the intro too. It still doesn’t add up to a full hour of Game of Thrones.

  54. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Juan:
    MRR,

    All the previous 50-something min episodes did too. They include the credits and the intro too. It still doesn’t add up to a full hour of Game of Thrones.

    Who cares? It’s still an extra ten minutes of GoT!

  55. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    It’s actually only 6 or 7 minutes longer than last week’s episode.

  56. MRR
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Juan:
    MRR,

    All the previous 50-something min episodes did too. They include the credits and the intro too. It still doesn’t add up to a full hour of Game of Thrones.

    Yeah, I know – I’m just sad that precious minutes will have to be wasted on a summary! I want 64 minutes of new! This week’s montage will probably also be especially long, since it’s the last episode of the season.

  57. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    MRR
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Permalink
    So I’m guessing most of the Jaqen H’ghar fans using his name (or a part of it) as their forum identity don’t know that the name is just part of an assumed identity.

    And how does a man or woman know what is the true identity? Is it important? Perhaps same name, other face, or same face – other name, new face – new name, who is to say for sure which is true?

    A woman used the quote button as always. Apologies for that, perhaps a mod can fix this in the above post that a woman cannot edit further?

  58. John-Michael Lelievre
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: So how does everyone pronounce ‘Valar Morghulis’? Is it Val-are More-goo-lis?

    Vay-lar More-goo-lis here.

  59. iheartseverus
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Is this okay? To post a link here? This is a funny little vid about what life is like for those of us obsessed with GoT.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rapo0h-RDnk&feature=g-u-u

  60. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    MRR: Is there a reason you removed my spoiler tags when you quoted me?

    In any case, he fairly explicitly says that “Jaqen H’ghar must die” when he changes his identity, and what we learn later on in AFFC about the assumed identities of the Faceless Men suggests very strongly that there would be nothing “true” about any identity they assume.

    Indeed. Just so. Bravo!

  61. Seraph78
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been looking forward to this night all week!!! Even though I know I have to work tomorrow, I have a GoT buddy in a coworker–we waste at LEAST an hour of the workday talking about the show.

    Waiting until next year’s gonna kill me, man…

  62. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    wargsareawesome,

    It’s actually only 6 or 7 minutes longer than last week’s episode.

    My point still stands. We still get more GoT than we normally do, which is a good thing in my book!

  63. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    I say Valar, you say Morghulis.

    Valar! _________!

    Valar! _________!

  64. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    Morghulis!
    Morghulis!

  65. SillyMammo
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Andrew:
    Only a few more hours before I start contemplating how big a concussion i’d need to go unconcious for 10 months. This is terrible. :( By the time season 3 rolls around, i’ll probably have the series read another dozen times. This is gonna kill me.

    You could always read the “Dunk and Egg” short stories. That should keep you occupied for at least 3 days. :0P

  66. Prince that was promised
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    John-Michael Lelievre,

    Doubt is vay lar. Valarian is pronounced Vah-leh

  67. Tytos Blackwood
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    Dohaeris!

    Dohaeris!

    fuck the system…….

  68. Daddy Tywin
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    I want to see if someone at KL tells Daddy Tywin that Arya Stark is missing. It should take him a milla-second to know who his cup bearere really was and order a raven sent to bring her to him….. Too late.

    We will know how much of the season’s budget was spent on Blackwater by how extensive the HOTU is. I think it will not match our expectations, but I hope I am wrong.

  69. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    SillyMammo,

    I would love to read the Dunk & Egg stories… if I could actually get my hands on a copy of them!

  70. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    I really do hope the house of the undying is as cool as black water, and BTW, what the hell is a manticore?

    Here’s to the old squire making his appearance…

  71. Ser Brynden Tulley
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Why does anyone care about Doreah?

  72. Default King
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Amsterpaul: …and BTW, what the hell is a manticore?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=manticore

    (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself)

  73. Icy Fingers
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Langkard: I pronounce it Val-are More-gull-is

    I always read it as Va-LAR More-Gool-is, with more emphasis on the ‘L’. I guess we’ll find out soon :)

  74. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Amsterpaul,

    The manticore is a Persian legendary creature similar to the Egyptian sphinx. It has the body of a red lion, a human head with three rows of sharp teeth (like a shark), and a trumpet-like voice. Other aspects of the creature vary from story to story. It may be horned, winged, or both. The tail is that of either a dragon or a scorpion, and it may shoot poisonous spines to either paralyze or kill its victims. It devours its prey whole and leaves no clothes, bones, or possessions of the prey behind.

    Though we don’t know what appearance GRRM chose to use for ASoIaF manticores, it is clear that they do not use their poison to paralyze their victims, but rather to kill them (very painfully).

    In short, a manticore is something to avoid at all costs.

  75. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Ser Brynden Tulley:
    Why does anyone care about Doreah?

    Because, in the books, she dies. In the show, however, she did not. We are assuming that the kept her alive for a reason.

  76. Steven Swanson
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    SillyMammo,

    I would love to read the Dunk & Egg stories… if I could actually get my hands on a copy of them!

    Check your local library, that’s where I found copies of the anthologies containing the first two stories. And I bought the third one, Warriors, when it came out, which has some other excellent stories included as well.

  77. Two Feathers
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Can`t wait to see the HOTU sequence. I have a feeling it will be something special.
    Among other things I am pretty sure we will get to see Drogo and Rhaego . I won`t say anymore but it will be damn cool for sure. It is known.
    I wonder will the little guy have his wings? Jeez, I hope so that would be awesome.

  78. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    thanks…

    the let me google that for you link was hilarious BTW

    Valar Morghulis…

    I was picturing more of a serpent type thing.

  79. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    They don’t have it. Well, they do, but there are holds on the next, like, 64 copies returned…

  80. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Amsterpaul,

    Not a problem! I wonder how they collect the poison from the things… NOT a job I would want!

  81. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    I have read my books to dust. Seriously HOTU dusty

  82. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Amsterpaul:
    I have read my books to dust. Seriously HOTU dusty

    Join the club! Some of my favorite books (like Lord of the Rings), I’m on my third or fourth copy of!

  83. Lina
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Really excited/nervous for House of the Undying. I simultaneously have realistically low and hopefully high expectations.

    I’m really hoping (pipedream-level hoping) for Rhaegar and Elia, some hint of RW, some hint of R+L=J, and the Undying Ones. On a more practical level, I hope we can see Viserys, Drogo, and Irri’s death scene. Realistically, I’m expecting just a creepy kind of tower and some weird hijinks from Pyat Pree.

    In any event, there better be some damn dragon fire.

    And please give us Arstan!

  84. Icy Fingers
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    SillyMammo,

    I would love to read the Dunk & Egg stories… if I could actually get my hands on a copy of them!

    Not sure how much use this is since it’s only the first one, but Hedge Knight is in a short story collection called Legends which can be found pretty cheaply. I’m still trying to get the rest though

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Legends-Discworld-Memory-Sorrow-Thorn/dp/0006483941/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1338765226&sr=8-4

  85. andrea
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers: I have a feeling

    oh, I have a feeling you know something, TF

  86. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Lina,

    I am hoping for Arstan as well, but I doubt we will get him yet, simply because he shows up as Strong Belwas’ “squire”, and IIRC, Belwas has not yet been cast…

  87. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Icy Fingers,

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!

    Wait. Now I’m confused. Aren’t Dunk & Egg graphic novellas?

  88. Icy Fingers
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    Icy Fingers,

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!

    Glad I could help :D

    And nope, they’re short stories

  89. Zach Zeeman
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Well the song called HotU on the soundtrack is nearly 6 minutes long so my hopes have been raised. Though I doubt we will get all the visions and prophecies and just the complete insanity that the house of the undying was, might be my favorite chapter in the whole series…

  90. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Zach Zeeman,

    6 minutes!? HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  91. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    seriously, think positively

    to the old squire!

  92. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Amsterpaul,

    I’m trying, truly I am, but ‘positive’ and ASoIaF don’t really go together…

  93. Impi
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    So excited for tonight!

    OT, I have had AVG threat detected 3 times now when accessing WIC home page. I assume it is one of the ads setting off AVG. Has anyone else been experiencing this?

  94. Michael Harper
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    Then again, nobody knew that Ser Dontos had been cast either. I think… Haha

  95. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    Impi,

    Nope…

  96. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper,

    Yes, well, I think Strong Belwas is a bigger deal than Ser Dontos… but MAYBE they kept it secret…

    ETA: See, thinking positive (or at least attempting to)

  97. Two Feathers
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    andrea: oh, I have a feeling you know something, TF

    Oh yes precious…yes TF knows things alright. Strange and wonderfull thingses.

  98. sunspear
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Prince that was promised:
    John-Michael Lelievre,

    Doubt is vay lar. Valarian is pronounced Vah-leh

    Well, to be fair, it is spelled ‘Valyrian’, not ‘Valarian’.

  99. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    Sméagol? When did you get here?

  100. Mike Chair
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Zach Zeeman: Well the song called HotU on the soundtrack is nearly 6 minutes long so my hopes have been raised.

    I hope you’re right. And hope is okay. Hope is good. Expectations are different. I expect, based upon past experience with the series (particularly anything of the Dany storyline) that it will be much abridged.

  101. Impi
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    My completely unrealistic hope is that the Season 1 character will be Old Nan. That D &D in their infinite wisdom, saw fit to shoot her death scene and saved it just in case….. OK REALLY crazy, but I still wish we got to see Bran reacting to it….

  102. Turncloak
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Strong Belwas is a minor character that could be replaced. Jorah or Arsten can take his place as a fighter . The signs are too powerful that we will see Arsten. The actor joins twitter, grows his beard, Jaime mentions his name before killing his cousin. how else will u wrap up Dany’s arc this season than having her rescued by Arsten and killing Pyat Pree?

  103. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Like I said, when it comes to ASoIaF, I have a pessimistic streak…

  104. Darthzombie
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    I am afraid they are going to change the whole Arstan as Squire for Belwas thing and because having Barristan be in disguise doesn’t really work as well for a TV audience since everyone would know who it is. And without barristan the bold as Belwas squire I really hope Strong Belwas doesn’t get the axe…

  105. Hassan Madkour
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    SillyMammo: Andrew:

    read The Dagger and The Coin, The Prince of Nothing, The First Law, Riyria Revelations….

  106. Darthzombie
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Impi,

    Well since the actress who played old nan passed away I really doubt it… Which is why she wasn’t used this year at all or in the DVD extras, because the only way those telling of the histories of Westeros could have been cooler was if Old Nan was the storyteller…

  107. andrea
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    ough, privileges on thingses ;)

  108. sunspear
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Darthzombie,

    I don’t know. Selmy’s arrival hasn’t been that greatly foreshadowed, at least not as much as it was in the books. Plus, his reputation has been majorly downgraded in the first season, so people might not remember him as well.

  109. Turncloak
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else watching Blackwater before the finale?

  110. Darthzombie
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:44 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    They have been translated into Graphic Novellas but they all started out first as short stories/Novellas. I know there is one more in the Dunk and Egg tale that George is writing and then they are going to release all of them as a collection.

  111. Turncloak
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Darthzombie,

    This doesn’t bother me. We don’t really need strong Belwas until Dany reaches Mereen

  112. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Darthzombie,

    OOOHHHH! So that’s why they are so expensive! YAY! I CAN PROBABLY AFFORD TO BUY D&E NOW!

  113. Darthzombie
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    I think that is true for the casual viewer but even serious nonreader viewers would know it was the same actor. As I am sure people like Alan Sepinwall in his blog would point out that we have seen that actor before even if he doesn’t quite look the same. And my one friend who hasn’t read the series remembers Barristan and really hopes we get more of him…

  114. Alan
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    The dunk and egg stories are short stories originally, but they are making graphic novellas of them. George did not write the adaptation, but he seemed pretty involved. Not the same, though.

    Manticore in Martin’s world seems to be another word for deadly scorpion.

  115. Spryte
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    Incredibly sad the season is ending, it just flew by. Celebrating the end to this epic season with the Game of Thrones drinking game
    Here’s to many more great seasons to come!

  116. Epicurean
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    John-Michael Lelievre: Vay-lar More-goo-lis here.

    We have no idea what the phonetic structure of High Valyrian is, how the letters map to sounds. The simplest answer is to use plain Latin values for each letter, and to ignore Martin’s silly h’s that he soh likes to stick all ovher the place in his whords. But there are lhots of other possibhilities.

    There’s also a question of where the stress falls on each word, if it does. It might even use tonal/pitch accent like Ancient Greek or various Asian languages even today. Imagine the minor third descending sing-song of a child’s “JOHNny, come out and PLA-ay” applied to the phrase.

    Ignoring pitches but using stress, here are three reasonable possibilities:

       •  Latin-like: [ˈvalar ˈmorgulis] with rolled r’s
       •  English-like: [ˈveɪlɑɹ mɔɹˈgʊləz]
       •  Exotic: [βɐˈlaɾ ˈmuʁχyɫɨʒ]

    If it’s closer to the last one, that would explain why Jaqen had to make Arya repeat it so much, since a bunch of those sounds are really foreign-sounding to the naïve English-speaking (well, -hearing) ear, and I’m sure poor Arya would have a terrible time with them.

    My guess is that it will be one of the first two, though.

    We’ll find out soon enough.

  117. Epicurean
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    sunspear:
    Darthzombie,
    I don’t know. Selmy’s arrival hasn’t been that greatly foreshadowed, at least not as much as it was in the books. Plus, his reputation has been majorly downgraded in the first season, so people might not remember him as well.

    Was it really “greatly foreshadowed” in the books? I honestly don’t recall that it was.

    It’s true that he was strangely removed from the Small Council, which downgrades his rep.

  118. Alan
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Darthzombie:
    wargsareawesome,

    They have been translated into Graphic Novellas but they all started out first as short stories/Novellas. I know there is one more in the Dunk and Egg tale that George is writing and then they are going to release all of them as a collection.

    He has more than one planned. The next one is done or just about and will appear in an anthology he is editing that focuses on women. I forget the name. But there’s more after that, I believe, and very well could be intended to take us all the way to Egg’s coronation or even Summerhall.

  119. Booey
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    322 days until April 21, 2013 (Estimated premier) – Plenty of time to re-watch Episodes 1 – 20.

    Here’s hoping for 3 horn’s tonight.

  120. Toadie
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    iheartseverus,

    This is hilarious as is the whole channel, thanks

  121. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    also we must not forget that the old squire is on the HBO site under the King on the Iron Throne. HE will be there are will eclipse Stannis as the BAMF of the season.

  122. JamesL
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    I was hoping for the season finale Game of Thrones would finally hit 4m viewers but considering it is competing with both the NBA playoffs and the MTV Awards I doubt it.

  123. Alan
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Epicurean: Was it greatly foreshadowed in the books.I honestly don’t recall that.

    It’s true that he was strangely removed from the Small Council, which downgrades his rep.

    Every non-book reader I know has wondered where Selmy is at some point. My dad still laments he’s missing. I think the show made him much more memorable — the visualization of his quitting, his sort of quiet dignity in the other scenes really seemed to make an imprint with people.

  124. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Epicurean,

    I did it was him until Dany did. I need to smoke less.

  125. Lina
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    That is IF we get Strong Belwas…

  126. Two Feathers
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    Off to bed. Enjoy the show everyone. Its a long wait till the next episode. I think I will stay off line till after the show airs here ( NI ) tomorrow night.

  127. Hassan Madkour
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Amsterpaul,

    as soon as I read Arstan Whitebeard I noticed the resesmblance in the name. but not until a few pages into ASOS have I put 2 and 2 together

  128. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Come on people, use spoiler tags! there are non-readers here (I would assume)

  129. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Less than an hour to go, people!

  130. sunspear
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Epicurean: Was it really “greatly foreshadowed” in the books?I honestly don’t recall that it was.

    It’s true that he was strangely removed from the Small Council, which downgrades his rep.

    Well, Tyrion mentions how stupid it was to dismiss him because of his reputation. Plus, Renly talks says something along the lines of “Joffrey dismissed him. He must have gone to serve some King. He isn’t with me, he isn’t with your son, so where else could he go?”

  131. Galway Gooners
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Oh to be born on the other side of the Atlantic!!!!

    Spare a thought for us lost souls far to the east………

  132. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    I t may be ten months until we get new shows but here are a few things we can get accomplished until then:

    Message GRRM to fiinsh tWoW everyday until the season 3 premier.

    Check this sight daily to see who is Cast as Meera Reed.

    Start weaving my sigil tapestry for next year premier party. (Hear me Roar M-n-Fers)

    Contact Science channel to find out probable causes of such severe climatic change.( I am still convinced that their planet has a 70 degree tilt and a really elliptical orbit.)

    Watch my DVR burn out and lose the first two seasons!

  133. Galway Gooners
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    I feel your pain brother

  134. Langkard
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    OK, off to watch Blackwater one more time before the final episode. See you on the other side!

  135. Lana
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    I have been listening to “No Church in the Wild” (Jay Z & Kanye West) on loop today, which, for some reason, I find to be highly evocative of Game of Thrones. Could this be the reason? I wonder…

    “Human beings in a mob.
    What’s a mob to a king?
    What’s a king to a god?
    What’s a god to a non-believer, who don’t believe in anything?
    Will he make it out alive? All right, all right…
    No church in the wild.”

    And the answer: all men must die, but the worst ones will surely live.
    It’s been one hell of a ride this season, and now come the summer, autumn, and yes, THE WINTER, of our discontent, awaiting the third season of the best show on television. *raises glass a-la Cersei* Enjoy!

  136. lonas
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    iheartseverus,

    That turned actually into a really cool song an video! thanks for sharing :-)

  137. dini
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Jaime Lannister,

    disappointed not to have seen him as reek but it would be great for an appearance tonite. season 3 beware the bastard of bolton

  138. Mike Chair
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    JamesL: competing with both the NBA playoffs

    Okay, here’s my plan.

    8:30 PM EST Celtics vs. Heat
    8:59 Tune Safari bowser to Celtics Website to get real-time scores and stats.
    9:00 Valar Morghulis
    10:10 Celtics vs. Heat and wic.net during the time outs.

  139. Steven Swanson
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Amsterpaul: Message GRRM to fiinsh tWoW everyday until the season 3 premier.

    Yeah, that kind of thing goes over real well with him.

  140. Steven Swanson
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Hassan Madkour:
    Amsterpaul,

    as soon as I read Arstan Whitebeard I noticed the resesmblance in the name. but not until a few pages into ASOS have I put 2 and 2 together

    It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure it out, possibly not until it was actually revealed.

  141. WompWomp
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Prince that was promised,

    Your screen name makes me sad that we won’t hear it in the show.

    Don’t be sad. The show promises an exciting revision of the prophesy, “The Pimp That Was Promised,” a role Tyrion is more than qualified to fulfill.

  142. iheartseverus
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    lonas:
    iheartseverus,

    That turned actually into a really cool song an video! thanks for sharing :-)

    Cheers! I watched it a couple times, laughing out loud at myself channeling Ayra when his friend says ‘The Starks are not your friends…’ and I’m like ‘LIAR!!

  143. Steven Swanson
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

    Alan: Manticore in Martin’s world seems to be another word for deadly scorpion.

    But with a humanlike face.

  144. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Who are you rooting for?

  145. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    35 minutes!

  146. DragonWolf
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    It’s called Assassin’s Creed, and it already exists.

  147. Mike Chair
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson: Alan: Manticore in Martin’s world seems to be another word for deadly scorpion.

    Steven Swanson: But with a humanlike face.

    Hey, the Germans ain’t got nothing to do with it!

    Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

  148. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    30 minutes!

  149. maskedmanissue1
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Who wants to see an army of wildings with giants and mammoths? I do! Although they might easily leave that until next season. Would be cool if that was the very last scene through.

    My one disappointment is going to come when Dagmer and Reek/Ramsay are lumped into one, but heck, I think everything that’s coming during the finale will more than make up for it!

  150. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    I hope they keep in that the first door on the right is the last door on the left

  151. Mike Chair
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome: Who are you rooting for?

    Oh, Mike Chair is from Boston. ‘Nuf said.

    ** temporarily changing avitar to Celtic’s chair **

  152. Maxwell James
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Lemoncakes are in the oven.

  153. MRR
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: A woman used the quote button as always. Apologies for that, perhaps a mod can fix this in the above post that a woman cannot edit further?

    Weird; when I used the quote button to quote you, the spoiler tags stayed in. Oh well – not a huge spoiler anyway, as it will probably become evident tonight to non-readers.

  154. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Hey, me too!!! Let’s hope the Celtics do better than the Sox (Gods be good, Bard was HORRID!) Any idea what was going on with him?

  155. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    25 minutes!

  156. KG
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    (cries at the prospect of another long wait)

  157. arglebargle
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    Shut the hell up, we know what time it is.

  158. Mike Chair
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    Bard? NO idea.

    I’m hoping for a Doc Rivers pep talk that goes something like this:

    “Those are brave men walking on our parquet. Let’s go kill them!”

  159. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    arglebargle,

    Jeez, no need to be rude!

  160. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    (Grins)

  161. Darthzombie
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    right there with you, didnt realize it was him until the reveal, or just before…

  162. arglebargle
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    skinchangers must burn for R’hllor

  163. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    arglebargle,

    Why? Lady Melisandre has no problem with Jon Snow, and she is a Priestess of R’hllor, so I fail to see the problem.

  164. Doz
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    “My one disappointment is going to come when”

    Personally my one joy will be watching the inane and retarded Dagmer theories get sunk. I mean Jeez.

  165. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Doz,

    Hear, Hear!

  166. Epicurean
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    A long time ago, D&D said we might get to see mammoths and giants this season.

  167. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Epicurean:
    A long time ago,

    In a galaxy far, far away…

  168. Valyrian Eyes
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Epicurean,

    Weren’t they talking about the 3rd season when they mentioned this?

  169. Coltaine777
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    10 min !!!

  170. Epicurean
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Valyrian Eyes:
    Epicurean,
    Weren’t they talking about the 3rd season when they mentioned this?

    Oh drat. I don’t know. Maybe. I thought it was somehow for the end of the 2nd season. That’s a lot more CGI money though.

  171. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Anyone know when they in ASoS they are ending S3?

  172. darquemode
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    I had honestly not considered actually seeing the Wildling army approaching….
    I just assumed we would hear the horns and get reaction shots.

    If we actually see the army in the last scene as the horn sounds…. THAT could very well rival last year’s end scene. Wow!

  173. Angelos Loukatos
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    It has been implied that it’s going to end with the Red Wedding.

  174. Blackwater
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    ummm guys how many minutes left till season finale, im not from america guys…

  175. Scholesy
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome: Red Wedding.

    You would think it was Joffrey’s poisoning, with the Red Wedding in episode 8 or 9.

  176. ser lyonel the laughing storm
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Ros!!!!!

  177. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Blackwater:
    ummm guys how many minutes left till season finale, im not from america guys…

    It’s on now, 16 minutes in…

  178. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Brienne, rocking the sword and getting a little vengeance.

  179. Dragons
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    that was pretty damn badass, even jaime was impressed i think!

  180. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Dragons:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    that was pretty damn badass, even jaime was impressed i think!

    A woman agrees.

  181. Michel
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Theon deserved a better end, lol. Dagmer = Reek, but Dagmer not Ramsay

  182. Maxwell James
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Aw man. If they keep Shae’s betrayal next season it it gonna sting.

  183. maskedmanissue1
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Well, it’s good to see Tyrion keeps his nose. Nice Shae-Tyrion moment, but pity fairy tales don’t last forever.

    Plus Robb marrying Jeyne with prior discussion with Cat is an interesting detour. Cat is such a bad “alive parent” apparently. But I just didn’t buy tha t exchange or that line or reasoning…

    But behold! HOTU is here!

  184. Josh
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Okay usually I don’t care about show to book changes but Robb getting married under the Seven? WTF? That’s a huge inconsistency and continuity error. We’ve been told the Starks worship the Old Gods in the show….I guess that’s one thing I care about. The Starks and the Old Gods…And I guess I was looking forward to seeing a Northern Wedding.

  185. maskedmanissue1
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    oh yeah, Dany at the iron throne, burn baby burn! and winter is coming!

  186. Steven Swanson
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Josh:
    Okay usually I don’t care about show to book changes but Robb getting married under the Seven? WTF? That’s a huge inconsistency and continuity error. We’ve been told the Starks worship the Old Gods in the show….I guess that’s one thing I care about. The Starks and the Old Gods…And I guess I was looking forward to seeing a Northern Wedding.

    Well, Catelyn worships the Seven so it’s not entirely unfathomable that the kids would be split. Sansa seems to lean more firmly toward the Seven but it’s not made clear with Robb, though I’d assume the Old Gods would be more appropriate with the King in the North jazz. But if there aren’t any weirwoods around in the south what can you do?

    Note that I haven’t seen the scene yet, just getting myself inappropriately spoiled here while I wait until the hour I can actually watch….

  187. maskedmanissue1
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Drakharis y’all!

  188. The Greatjon
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Yeah I would have to agree, its a little bit of a pet peeve for me, but there’s really no reason Robb would pray to the 7, ,makes no sense to me.

    And for god sakes its the Many Face god not the Red god, they need to get it together with their religions

  189. Scholesy
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    The Greatjon:
    Yeah I would have to agree, its a little bit of a pet peeve for me, but there’s really no reason Robb would pray to the 7, ,makes no sense to me.

    And for god sakes its the Many Face god not the Red god, they need to get it together with their religions

    Except that is what Jaqen says in the book, at least during that first encounter.

  190. maskedmanissue1
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    after the three horns blows… OMFG!

  191. Judy
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    That couldn’t have had an extra 10 minutes in it! I had to glance at the clock because I couldn’t believe it when the credits started rolling.
    Quite a few changes from the book. I think they shortened about 200 pages to about 50 but the story line is still progressing. Yes! and Finally! I was worried that they were going to minimize “The wall” storyline. I’m worried no more!

  192. Felix & Gotrek
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Why did the Others not talk in the ice crackling language and instead screeched like Nazguls from LOTR? Besides that they looked nice. Too bad no undead bears though…

  193. KG
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Well THAT was certainly awesome :)

  194. The Greatjon
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Scholesy,

    I’m not sure I remember that, but I am sure the Faceless men are associated with the Many faced god in the books. I thought he might have said it at first because she saved them from fire, but when he said in this episode about joining the Faceless men to give offerings to the Red god, I guess that confirms the show is changing it to avoid confusion.

    But as Stark lover, I just get so irritated whenever I hear a northerner talk about the Seven, like when Lord Karstark talks about offering his heart to the father. Minor pet peeve I know, but Robb Stark is king in the North, theres no reason he would name all of the Seven gods during his wedding vows, can’t say its out of respect to Jeyne/Tallisa because in the show she’s from Volantis, just strange they would do that. And I know his mother worships the Seven, but its clearly shown (at least in the books) that Robb prays the the Old gods. Oh well not a huge deal.

    Anyway, great episode!

  195. ser ineedalife
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    WOW ! Was that finale a masterpiece or what? After last week, I expected a letdown. They tieed up so many loose ends quite nicely. Danerys thread was handled well There was a ton on potential in the House of the Undying but seeing Khal Drago again was great. The empty vault was no surprise, but still played well. Tyrion is my favorite, and Peter D nailed his scene, as usual. Jon killing halfhand and the expectation of meeting Mance and seeing the array of Wildings will be a sight. But that last scene- with the White Walkers (and wights I guess) was a mind blower! Waiting for GRRM to finish the series is hard and waiting for next HBO season is a shorter wait, but also difficult. Well done.

  196. Big Noyd
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    The HOTU scenes really sucked. I was completely dissatisfied with the direction the chose to go. Possibly Dany’s most interesting chapter from the book ruined.

  197. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    ser ineedalife,

    Well said Lifer,

    I must agree about the last scene. Spectacular indeed. But I got to tell you I missed the odl squire.

  198. Amsterpaul
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Big Noyd,

    I disagree. In television you don’t have the time to tell all that was needed. They needed to make a few abstract statements. I love the way they achieved that with the frozen throne room to the wall.

    I will concede that R+L=J should have been there. It is known.
    I want to known who are the other two. Where were those clues.
    Visually stunning adaptation.

  199. Frank
    Posted June 3, 2012 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    So White Walkers just look at Sam and walk past? Dumb.

  200. RagingBull36
    Posted June 4, 2012 at 1:59 am | Permalink

    hmmmmmmm Snowing on the Iron Throne then she exits to the wall. R+L=J to me but still not a solid spoiler
    Raging Bull,

  201. Brandon Gower
    Posted June 4, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    RagingBull36:
    hmmmmmmm Snowing on the Iron Throne then she exits to the wall.R+L=J to me but still not a solid spoiler
    Raging Bull,

    Or ash maybe? It looked like the throne room was burnt. Not sure.


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