Casting Speculation Roundup
By Ours is the Fury on in Casting, Rumors, Speculation.

The Game of Thrones script reading on June 27th kicked off a fresh round of rumors and speculation surrounding the casting for season 3.

    • Charlotte Hope has been cast in the role of “Myranda,” according to her CV on Spotlight.com. It’s unclear if this is intended to be the character “Myranda Royce” of the Vale, since her introduction at this point wouldn’t fit the books’ timeline precisely, and she is younger than the character is intended to be. An altered version of Myranda Royce or a completely different character with a borrowed first name, perhaps?
    • Mackenzie Crook, of Pirates of the Caribbean and The Office (U.K.) fame, was seen several times in Belfast over the last few days, during the time of the script reading. One local spotted him with Night’s Watch cast members, along with Finn Jones and Joe Dempsie, while another saw him dining at local restaurant Made In Belfast, the same night Emilia Clarke was there. UPDATE: In this photo, Mackenzie Crook is standing to the right of Gwendoline Christie, outside the building of the script reading. 
    • Sarah Bolger, star of The Tudors, has also been spotted in Belfast, as well. Interestingly, she tweeted that she was in Belfast a few days ago, but later deleted that tweet. UPDATE: Sarah Bolger has been cast as Sleeping Beauty in Once Upon A Time‘s next season, making it unlikely she’s involved with GoT.
    • Nathalie Emmanuel, who played Sasha Valentine on Hollyoaks for three years, will be appearing on at least one episode of season 3.  Her role is unknown but she posted a photo on her Twitter of a script with a faint but readable stamp that read “Game of Thrones,” and the cover clearly stated “Episode 306.” (The photo was later taken down.) She also mentioned beginning horse-riding lessons.
    • Has Asim Ahmad been cast as Thoros of Myr, the red priest? According to a tumblr user, “One of the my friends on FB posted earlier about her boyfriend getting a part in Game of Thrones, like a big part that would require him to be in 13 episodes. She didn’t know what exactly it was until now….Turns out he got the part for Thoros of Myr.” She included a link to Ahmad’s Imdb entry. Also, Ahmad mentioned Game of Thrones in a tweet this morning, responding to someone’s question, but the original question has been deleted.

    • Speaking of Mackenzie Crook, actor Frankie McGinty tweeted on June 26th that he was coming home from a costume fitting in London, and was “apparently fatter than Mackenzie Crook.” In a  first fitting, they would be taking measurements, and it sounds like he was being measured by someone who had just seen Crook. It’s heavily speculative, but gosh, he looks a lot like Ramsay is described.  (Cross this one off, he’s denied it on Twitter.)
    • Coronation Street actor Philip McGinley has been chatting lately with Gwendoline Christie, John Bradley, Finn Jones and Joe Dempsie on Twitter, and he’s recently started following John and Finn’s accounts, along with the official Game of Thrones Twitter account. The 31-year-old actor would be perfect for Edmure Tully or Beric Dondarrion, with a bit of auburn hair-coloring. He also tweeted on the 28th that he had “horse on his chinos.” Another actor taking riding lessons? Definitely interesting.

Ours is the Fury: Don’t you love casting season?

UPDATE: Frankie McGinty denied being cast on Twitter:

@FrankieMcGinty: @Axechucker Oh, not true I’m afraid. I wish it was though!

Fire And Blood: Too bad! I liked his look! Keep sleuthing, peeps!

UPDATE #2: Westeros.org says that they can confirm Crook isn’t playing Vargo Hoat. So what other role best suits him, if he’s been cast?


689 Comments

  1. J
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    I’d really like McGinley as Lord Beric.

  2. oracle86
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Don’t you love casting season?

    Yes, we do!!!

  3. Maria Batsiou
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    My kingdom for Mackenzie Crook to play Vargo Hoat! I just wait for him to quote: Kingthlayer you are my captivth!

  4. T-Good
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    Wowza Charlotte hope is dandi

  5. Lex
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    Westeros seems to think Mackenzie Crook would be playing Beric Dondarrion. Is it just me, or is that crazy?

  6. Ours is the Fury
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    That’s…huh? But maybe I’m being too quick to judge? Um. But yeah I’d never cast him as that.

  7. Maria Batsiou
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    Lex:
    Westeros seems to think Mackenzie Crook would be playing Beric Dondarrion. Is it just me, or is that crazy?

    It’s more than crazy! If not Vargo, Tom O’Sevens!

  8. J
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    I would find that to be incredibly odd casting. Beric’s supposed to be super handsome, right? Though I guess post-numerous-deaths-and-resurrections he might not be.

  9. jellydonut
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Bolger for Meera Reed <3

  10. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    J,

    I was thinking he might make a good Beric too!

    He feels a bit young to be Edmure to me since he has a younger look for his age. Beric is supposed to be in his 20′s if I recall. McGinley just “feels” more like Beric to me.

    I wonder who else he could be if not those two. He really does not jump at me imediately as either….. Which means about nothing in the grand scheme of casting! XD

  11. ...
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Oh no, if Sarah Bolger has been cast, I’ll cofuse her AGAIN with Natalie Dormer :)) They look so alike!

  12. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    J,

    Far from handsome in ASOS.

  13. Lex
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    P.S., I just mentioned in the Blackfish thread that GRRM will be doing a reading (and possibly a signing?) in Seattle, this Tuesday. Tickets are $10 online.

    http://townhallseattle.org/clarion-west-summer-reading-series-george-r-r-martin/

  14. chrisberez
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    I really hope the speculation is true that Charlotte Hope is Meera and the name “Myranda” is just a cover to hide who she’s really cast as until HBO makes the official announcements. Looking at her pictures, she looks like she’d be perfect in the role (at least appearance-wise). I don’t think I’ve actually seen her in anything.

  15. ...
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    And that Frankie bloke looks amazing for Ramsay, with those eyes…

  16. Joshua Taylor
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Could Nathalie be….Arianne Martell?

  17. Lex
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Maria Batsiou,

    They also suggested that he might be Tom o’ Sevens. Not sure why they haven’t considered Hoat.

  18. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Maria Batsiou,

    I totally agree. He just looks like I pictured Tom, albeit a few years younger.

    I think the Beric thing may come from Beric being so emaciated in ASOS and Crook can play a gaunt rib-showing guy fairly easily. XD

    Another is Vargo Hoat, but he seems a bit short to play either The Lightning Lord or The Goat to me!

  19. Nicolai Hansen
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Crook will be great in the role of Vargo. But I have just imagined Vargo be bigger. I believe Emmanuel is for the role of Missandei. Can’t see her for any other parts. And I agree with McGinty as Snow and McGinley as Beric.

    But I believe Geraldine McEwan would be great as Queen of Thornes. I only know her as Miss Marple.

  20. Winterdark
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    I’m definitely on the Myranda = Meera bandwagon. Charlotte Hope looks perfect for the part. Exactly as I pictured Meera in my head. And namechanges aren’t uncommon for the show. (Asha – Yara)

  21. J
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Yeah, come to think of it, I actually could see Crook as ASOS!Beric. Still not the casting I’d expect though.

  22. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Phillip McGinley’s Twitter feed:

    Matches with the departure of other GoT actors.

    The Pret A Manger at Heathrow terminal 1 could learn a lot from the Euston crew vibez wise.

    Reading the script maybe?

    @lovegwendoline be quiet I’m trying to read.

    As WiC mentioned, horses.

    I’ve got ‘horse’ on my chinos.

    Dempsie done reading script and heading back to London?

    @joedempsie Bye mate

    Plus all the tweeting to other GoT cast members.

    And Nina Gold cast him in Prometheus.

  23. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    A woman thinks Crook for Vargo Hoat, McGinty for Ramsay (pretty spooky eyes, no?), McKinley for Dondarrion or Edmure. Going by appearance mostly, a woman could be off but almost any combination of those 3 for those 3 roles might work. Maybe not Crook for Edmure, but I don’t know, his eyes are a little bit like Fairley’s. We shall see.

  24. Maria Batsiou
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Mackenzie would be awesome for either of these characters! I remember him in Pirates of the Carribean and he was so hilarious…

    Nicolai Hansen:
    Crook will be great in the role of Vargo. But I have just imagined Vargo be bigger.I believe Emmanuel is for the role of Missandei. Can’t see her for any other parts. And I agree with McGinty as Snow and McGinley as Beric.

    But I believe Geraldine McEwan would be great as Queen of Thornes. I only know her as Miss Marple.

    I’d love her as Missandei too. I’m so ready for some High Valyrian!

  25. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Nicolai Hansen:
    Crook will be great in the role of Vargo. But I have just imagined Vargo be bigger.I believe Emmanuel is for the role of Missandei. Can’t see her for any other parts. And I agree with McGinty as Snow and McGinley as Beric.

    But I believe Geraldine McEwan would be great as Queen of Thornes. I only know her as Miss Marple.

    A woman never thought Vargo would be a LARGE man, isn’t he described as wearing sort of loud, motley clownish Mummer’s clothing and trying to act the fool at times till he turns all psycho on you? Could be any size really, but it would be more surprising if a slightly goofy and slim guy all of a sudden started slashing away with his sword/daggers.

  26. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I’ve only seen him in dark comedic roles ( I’m also not much of a movie goer ), and he
    was great as a pirate hand. With that said he resembles the emaciated Dondarrion in
    build. Perhaps there is an acting range here that we’re unaware of. He wouldn’t have
    been my choice though. As Shagga and the Storm Crows have been scarce and now
    dismissed from King’s Landing his inclusion would have been spot on. Well a step
    away from pirate to noble works may be his asking.

  27. Occulist to ravens
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Maggie Smith as Queen of Thorns

  28. Maria Batsiou
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    Winterdark:
    I’m definitely on the Myranda = Meera bandwagon. Charlotte Hope looks perfect for the part. Exactly as I pictured Meera in my head. And namechanges aren’t uncommon for the show. (Asha – Yara)

    Concerning the name-change from Asha to Yara they did it, so that fans won’t get confused since there is Osha! I cannot understand why change Meera to Myranda since there’s noone similar name to confuse the fans! I hope Myranda is a Tyrell cousin-hen probably Megga! I don’t bother change her name to Myranda i don’t like the Tyrells :P

  29. J
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Nicolai Hansen:
    But I have just imagined Vargo be bigger.

    He is described as “tall and gaunt”. Crook’s not very tall, but he is pretty gaunt!

  30. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Your comments are what I was considering too, I just now saw yours after posting mine.

  31. wargsareawesome
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    jellydonut:
    Sarah Bolger for Meera Reed <3

    Has to be… and she certainly looks the part!

    Nathalie, though, I’m not sure what part she would play… the only part I can think of they for her that would be in season 3 is Arianne Martell, and while my mental picture of Arianne always had straight hair, this actress’ facial features are perfect for Arianne…

  32. bhs14
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been hunting down twitter accounts for these new castmembers and have found most of them. Philip McGinley = @philipmcginley Frankie McGinty = @FrankieMcGinty Nathalie Emmanuel = @missnemmanuel Sarah Bolger = @SarahBolger But I couldn’t find accounts for Charlotte Hope or Mackenzie Crook. Anyone? I went ahead and added them to my GoT list on twitter. So excited for full casting announcements. We’ll probably have to wait till next year, though, right?

  33. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I see Crook as a Northman, not a Riverland dweller, he’s just too… dark and burly
    like a tall evergreen tree. He’s a “forest” like Asha described, so different from a
    sea man.

  34. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Well somewhere I know he is described as “tall and gaunt”, bu I’m not sure height is very important to his character really. GoT has not really kept with eye color or heights exactly as they are described in the books for all roles. For the roles where height is important to the role like Gregor, Sandor, Brienne etc they certainly have though….

    Someone on here mentioned him as Hoat last year and I totally can see it even if he is petite. The other actor with an “odd” look to him I saw someone suggest on here is Jason Flemyng as Vargo Hoat. He has a similar oddness to Crook but he is somewhat tall at 6-1.

  35. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    J: He is described as “tall and gaunt”. Crook’s not very tall, but he is pretty gaunt!

    Plus, to this woman Crook has the kind of face that can go from friendly smile to menace in half a second, which is important for Vargo Hoat. So much fun speculating! Thanks for the thread WiC!

  36. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    I’ve always imagined Hoat as tall and lanky. While Crook isn’t very tall he’s at least lanky/skinny.

  37. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    I’ve been cheerleading for Mackenzie Crook as Vargo Hoat for more than 3 years now, since I think one of my first posts at westeros.org way back then. He is perfect for the part. I hope he is it!

    I think Nathalie Emmanuel may be playing an aged-up Missandei.

    I love this time of year! Ah, the joys of being a GOT fan. And as icing on the cake, I have worked it out so that I can attend Worldcon in San Antonio in the Summer of 2012. Finally going to meet GRRM in person! Woohoo!

  38. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Maybe but Vargo was sharp enough to command men ( the Mountain gave him the
    promotion ) and perceived to be a thick man with thick tongue and extremely
    rogue -ish. I’m not convinced where he’d likely be but he’s definitely a contender
    for Dondarrion or a Wildling.

  39. bhs14
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Maria Batsiou: Concerning the name-change from Asha to Yara they did it, so that fans won’t get confused since there is Osha! I cannot understand why change Meera to Myranda since there’s noone similar name to confuse the fans! I hope Myranda is a Tyrell cousin-hen probably Megga! I don’t bother change her name to Myranda i don’t like the Tyrells :P

    Well, they also put Oona Chaplin’s role as “Jeyne,” even though (so far) she ended up being Talisa Maegyr. That seemed to be a feint, so I can see them using “Myranda” but her ending up playing Meera Reed. We’re all just guessing now.

  40. evilclosetmonkey
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Oh no, if Sarah Bolger has been cast, I’ll cofuse her AGAIN with Natalie Dormer :)) They look so alike!

    Hah, I saw her imdb picture and immediately thought that she might be a Tyrell cousin :)

  41. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Maybe Crook could be playing Orell. The skinchanger wildling who controls the eagle?
    Did we ever hear what he looked like? Crook has a bird like look to him in my mind. XD

    Pretty small role though for a recognizable actor…

  42. Fire And Blood
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    I just wanna take a moment to thank all of our internet sleuths—darquemode especially. (Seriously, that dude is so Rabbit-like these days I’m tempted to start calling him Harry the Hare.)

    Y’all are what makes Winter Is Coming the best freaking GoT fansite anywhere—by a mile.

  43. Arthur
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    April may be Game of Thrones.

    But July is Game of Casting.

    Can’t wait to hear Sarah Bolger is casted as Meera. Wondering who will play Daario and if Strong Belwas is making it this season.

  44. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    You took the words right out of my mouth, well said :D

  45. House Snow
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Really like the idea of Crook as Vargo. Vargo was suppose to be someone you wouldn’t take seriously yet someone who is kinda creepy looking at the same time. Mcginty looks good face wise for Ramsey although I was hoping Ramsey would be sort of tall.

  46. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    hey, you’re on to something. I really see the Wildling in him.

  47. Fire And Blood
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    I actually remember your suggestion from way back. Would be interesting if that speculation led to the role. In Nina Gold we Trust—to have her casting team visit our site.

  48. Ours is the Fury
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    I think Orell is way too small a part for Crook. He’s decently high-profile- enough to get a showy role.

  49. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I dunno, we end up with that skin walker lost in transition somewhere in the Gift.
    He isn’t dead and there’s more to his story as it evolves.
    Time wise it may not
    play out with the GoT scripts as GRRM isn’t done telling the story….unless
    Benioff and Weiss embellish a bit.

  50. Erik
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Maybe Arianne will come to King’s Landing with his uncle, instead of Ellaria. Nathalie Emmanuel could fit the role for sure.

  51. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    Thanks, and thanks to those who have messaged me elsewhere with info.

    Coming here where there are many experts, and many like myself interested (read obsessed or addicted) in Game of Thrones rumors and speculation makes me feel less obsessivee! XD

    It makes for a wonderful time of the year and beats being out in 95+ degree heat!

  52. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    True and he may wish to expand his professional range as an actor from Pirate
    /Wildling. Still, Orell is a Interesting Wildling with an evolving story. You may
    be right though, I’m just speculating away here like the seven hells :D

  53. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    So sad you’re not in Northern California, land of perpetual springtime.

  54. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood:
    Langkard,

    I actually remember your suggestion from way back. Would be interesting if that speculation led to the role. In Nina Gold we Trust—to have her casting team visit our site.

    I think I actually said “In Nina Gold we trust!” at the end of one of my many cheerleading for Mackenzie posts. At that point it was pretty clear that Nina Gold was a genius at casting for this show. I think every thread about casting had at least one post with that phrase in it. It is somewhat odd for a casting director to have a huge fan base, isn’t it?

    It’s probably too late in the casting process, but the addition of Clive Russell reanimated another one of my old dream casting choices – Dennis Storhøi for Mance. That would just about make my year.

  55. 3eyes
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Not familiar with this actor, but hoping she plays a noble, which seems likely given the riding lessons. Gods – she could be my daughter’s twin! Even more excited about S3 now – in Nina I trust.

  56. Ours is the Fury
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    3eyes,

    The riding lessons make it more likely she’s with the Dothraki- I don’t think the women have had to take much in the way of riding lessons so far. It’s mostly been the actors playing knights and Night’s Watch, from what I recall from last year.

  57. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    Dennis Storhøi? You wouldn’t happen to be Norwegian?

  58. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I’m sad too!
    I’ve visited the area once and enjoyed it!

    Here in Minnesota we get the full range of nature’s fury!
    Blizzards, subzero weather, flooding, tornadoes and of course heat waves!

    I do love it here, and I love the full range of changing seasons, but some times it is just too damn cold or too damn hot!

  59. Dogmayor
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    Myranda? Fuck me, this doesn’t bode well.

  60. bon
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:18 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Lady Stark and Brienne of Tarth were riding to…

  61. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Langkard,

    Dennis Storhøi? You wouldn’t happen to be Norwegian?

    No, I’ve just been a fan of Dennis Storhøi since he had the best role in the 13th Warrior. He’s really, really popular in Norway but here in the USA he doesn’t get much attention.

  62. Ours is the Fury
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    bon,

    Brienne is basically a knight. I have no idea if Michelle Fairley took riding lessons or not.

    I do think it’s more likely Nathalie’s character joined the Essos storyline, given that Dany needs Missandei or new handmaids since they prematurely got rid of Irri and Jhiqui vanished. I’d like to see the Martells soon but they haven’t been on any of the casting lists.

  63. Mormegil
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed: Orell is a Interesting Wildling with an evolving story

    What Evolving story? He’s killed by Jon in a part of the story the show has already gone past.

    His Eagle survives with his conciousness for a bit longer but I doubt they are having Crook play the Eagle.

  64. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I agree it is too small for him…
    I was trying to run with the idea of Crook cast as a Wildling and think of Wildling roles that may come up this season. He is definitely not Tormund! XD
    I don’t see him as Mance either…

    Think Tom O’Sevens would even be a big enough role for him ?
    It was left off the confirmed “to be cast” list we have (albeit a partial list)… and that makes me lean towards him as Vargo Hoat or Beric….

  65. Ours is the Fury
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Tom’s one of those fun but not necessary characters so I don’t know if we’ll even see him, but I’d say Crook is too big for that role as well. Vargo or Beric are much more likely. :)

  66. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Is it possible that McGinley is being cast as Daario?

    darquemode:

    Think Tom O’Sevens would be a big enough role for him ?

    That’s an interesting thought! I have no idea if Crook can sing though. Wouldn’t the person playing Tom need to be able sing, at least?

  67. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    Ah, ok! He happens to be represented by the same agent as Kristofer Hivju who was asked to audition for GoT based on an accidental rumor I started, so maybe I should have e-mailed them about Storhøi as well :P

  68. Lela
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    The earlier leaked audition of that random dude reading lines for Vargo Hoat made sad because he read without a lisp. I know Vargo is evil, but I always imagined him silly evil! Mackenzie Crook all the wayyyyy

  69. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Langkard,

    Ah, ok! He happens to be represented by the same agent as Kristofer Hivju who was asked to audition for GoT based on an accidental rumor I started, so maybe I should have e-mailed them about Storhøi as well :P

    Yes! Same agent. That is interesting. I can hope. Forlorn though it might be. Storhøi has an amazing voice after all of those years on stage. I believe he even played Tevye in a Norwegian stage production of Fiddler on the Roof.

  70. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    I don’t think he has been doing much TV or feature film work as of lately. Dropped out of “The Thing” prequel in 2010 and after that it’s been rather quiet.

  71. 3eyes
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Michelle Fairley and Emilia Clarke both seemed comfortable on horseback, and I can only recall men riding in the Dothraki scenes except for Daenerys. All the other women, and all lowborns seemed to be on foot or in carts or carriages. Perhaps I should re-watch both seasons to make sure *sigh of resignation* Nuff respect to you and the WiC posse for all your work.

  72. Obsidian
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    Of course, since they left out Jon killing Orell, maybe he could be combined with Varamyr… ..but Vargo or Tom would be perfect.

  73. Mimi
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone else think that Charlotte Hope could make a fantastic Roslin Frey? She looks just like I imagined her from that photo. She could be an entirely new character, though. Perhaps she’s a little too young if HBO are increasing Edmure’s age?

    Bolger could also potentially be Roslin but I doubt it. Roslin’s introduction is scheduled for the next series, isn’t it?

    Absolutely love the idea of Crook as Hoat, Emmanuel as an aged-up Missandrei and McGinley could make a super Beric. McGinty as Ramsey is also very exciting!

  74. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,
    Both MicGinley and McGinty have striking eyes.. McGinley’s green and McGinty’s blue.

    If I recall Daario had blue eyes if D&D/ Nina stick to what GRRM wrote. McGinty has that dark and swarthy look to him too. Not quite ethnic, but more like the Daario in my mind than McGinley.

    Honestly no roles jump out at me for those two actors and I’m very curious to see if they were cast and if so, who they will be!!

  75. JamesL
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    I really hope Sarah Bolger is Meera Reed and not Charlotte Hope. Sarah looks perfect for the role.

  76. MoonCoffee
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    I love that even without the usual Froggy fodder, the fandom go and do our own speculations WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS IN A CAVE… I MEAN TWITTER

  77. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Langkard,

    I don’t think he has been doing much TV or feature film work as of lately. Dropped out of “The Thing” prequel in 2010 and after that it’s been rather quiet.

    He did a tour last year in Norway doing Christmas songs with Anne Vada and also Alexander Rybak playing the fiddle. Lots of vids of it on Youtube.

  78. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Do people in Minnesota live in igloos ? How is it possible to live in the Frostfangs?

  79. Superdeluxe
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Sarah bolger is back on twitter after a 8 day absence, time to go check her cv

  80. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    It is definitely going to be an interesting couple of weeks as we get more information about the new cast members. That should last us until we start getting filming tidbits and locations shots. Then we have that terrible long wait until Season 3 interviews begin with only the awards shows to hold us over.

  81. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Anyone know how to browse Spotlight.com? I don’t want to sit an type random ID numbers hoping to strike gold :P

  82. TheBlackFlame
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    ,

    Also let it be noted that he is the spitting image of the guy who plays Roose.

  83. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Sarah Bolger’s CV:
    http://www.hamiltonhodell.co.uk/cv/client_sarah-bolger_id_100069.htm

    Tara Fitzgerald’s CV:
    http://unitedagents.co.uk/tara-fitzgerald

    Nathalie Emmanuel’s CV:
    http://www.ajmanagement.co.uk/index.php/actor/nathalie-emmanuel

    Frankie McGinty’s CV:
    http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=133539

    Philip McGinley’s CV:
    http://unitedagents.co.uk/philip-mcginley

    I did not see Crook’s…
    None have any Game of Throne’s entries… yet. XD

  84. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    I don’t recall the GoT scene for this but ADWD picks up his story as he finds himself
    in the Gift area. I was as surprised as you after what happened in the air and
    simultaneous to Stannis’s campaign. These might be considered spoilers, if you
    haven’t read the book yet, the detailed language GRRM will say everything I’m
    omitting here.

  85. Superdeluxe
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Thanks just checked it. Nothing!

  86. m3shwerks
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    I viewed the video of Charlotte Hope that Westeros put up and her eyes looked big and very “frog” like so it could be she might be playing Meera. Although, I like the idea of Sarah Bolger as Meera better. I can also picture Sarah at court in King’s Landing, but a Tyrell cousin seems too small a part for her? Then again Natalie Dormer has big eyes so maybe Charlotte will be a Tyrell cousin… ARGHH! I dunno. This is indeed torturous and fun.

  87. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Would lady Margaery’s ladies-in-waiting ( now in King’s Landing ) contend for
    the lessons? Do Dothraki women ride or take wagons or walk? I don’t remember.
    Irri rode horse or stayed close walking next to Danerys on GoT ?

  88. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Here is Mackenzie Crook’s CV:

    Ah, Carne beat me to it by 3 minutes!

  89. sherry
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Who is going to play Mance Rayder? That casting is being played hush-hush. And I thought Tony Curran was possibly going to be in Season 3?

  90. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Thanks!
    It seems like not every agency updates imediately, but can’t hurt to check them out every few days (or hours) until we get confirmation….

  91. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    sherry:
    Who is going to play Mance Rayder? That casting is being played hush-hush. And I thought Tony Curran was possibly going to be in Season 3?

    Dennis Storhøi for Mance Rayder!

    Tony Curran, another 13th Warrior cast member! Curran had been rumored. But nothing came of that, I think. It sure would be great to see him on GOT; although I’ll still cheer for Storhøi.

  92. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Carne,

    Thanks!
    It seems like not every agency updates imediately, but can’t hurt to check them out every few days (or hours) until we get confirmation….

    Crook also has a personal website which he seems to keep updated (or someone does for him). He has stuff posted in the “News” section from June.

  93. Ours is the Fury
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    I think agencies know they aren’t supposed to leak roles too soon, so we may not see anything on them for a while. Spotlight.com is a casting website, not an agency, so Charlotte may have updated that herself, not realizing that people like us were creeping around. :)

  94. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    sherry,

    Tony Curran was cast in SyFy network’s upcoming series “Defiance”. He probably won’t be available for Thrones.

  95. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Curran auditioned for season 1, but that’s all I know

  96. Langkard
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    I think agencies know they aren’t supposed to leak roles too soon, so we may not see anything on them for a while. Spotlight.com is acasting website, not an agency, so Charlotte may have updated that herself, not realizing that people like us were creeping around. :)

    In Nina Gold we trust! But we’d sure like to put an electronic bug in her office anyway.

  97. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I know right? XD
    I almost feel bad for people… like say Kerry Ingram especially. Just going about her dialy life tweeting to friends and we Thrones fans catch it and suddenly she is outted as the heiress to the Iron Throne! XD

  98. Menelmakil
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,
    That was Varamyr, not Orell.

  99. Carne
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Will there be any more WiC casting speculations? Been a while since the last one (Edmure Tully?)!

  100. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Crook is perfect for Vargo Hoat. That is brilliant casting. Bravo Nina Gold.

  101. nimble dick
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Nina Gold is the key
    Follow her

  102. Superdeluxe
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    They should hurry up lol

  103. Superdeluxe
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Yeah sarah’s work on gilded Lilly’s is not on there. She has tried the last 2 years to get on a tv series, but both times pilot was not picked up. Here is hoping 3rd time is a charm

  104. tysnow
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    My thinking about Emmanuel being Arianne is the following……..
    1. Only one episode (Messandei would be in more than one)
    2. Horse riding lessons (from Qarth to Astapor and whilst there, Dany doesn’t ride any horses) Also we know Arianne will do quite a bit of horse riding.
    3. She is too perfect facial wise (how I envisioned Arianne looking)

    Also so what if Arianne didn’t appear in SoS, we are introduced to the Dornish, and this is an adaption, where anything goes. All D&D have to do is follow a logical path for introducing her early, such as going ahead and showing Myrcella’s arrival in Dorne and her meeting some of the family. It only takes one or two scenes, and since SoS is split into 2 seasons and since the book was only 50% longer than GoT, that leaves D&D 4-5 episodes to show fresh new and hopefully cool scenes. I am sure some of those extra 4-5 episodes will involve a portion of CoK and Feast, maybe Dance, but they have plenty of room to show us fans some hopefully surprising and interesting extra scenes.

  105. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    3eyes,

    The riding lessons make it more likely she’s with the Dothraki- I don’t think the women have had to take much in the way of riding lessons so far. It’s mostly been the actors playing knights and Night’s Watch, from what I recall from last year.

    This may have been so in S1 & S2, but Margaery Tyrell is very fond of riding and takes her posse of cousins with her which is one of the things Cersei uses to accuse her of philandering in an adulterous way later. So, it’s possible that some of the horse riding lessons could be for Margaery’s posse of cousins and friends.

  106. tysnow
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Having Crook as Vargo would be dream come true for most fans, and I can see McGinley as Beric, as for Edmure I am not sure because Philip looks like someone in his twenties.
    Sarah for Meera (please let it be), and I hope Charlotte is Myranda Royce, just introduced earlier, and D&D using her early arrival to set the stage and conflict with LF for the seasons to come.

  107. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Superdeluxe,

    Sarah Bolger’s CV:
    http://www.hamiltonhodell.co.uk/cv/client_sarah-bolger_id_100069.htm

    Tara Fitzgerald’s CV:
    http://unitedagents.co.uk/tara-fitzgerald

    Nathalie Emmanuel’s CV:
    http://www.ajmanagement.co.uk/index.php/actor/nathalie-emmanuel

    Frankie McGinty’s CV:
    http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=133539

    Philip McGinley’s CV:
    http://unitedagents.co.uk/philip-mcginley

    I did not see Crook’s…
    None have any Game of Throne’s entries… yet. XD

    Yeah, McGinley does resemble the guy that currently plays Roose Bolton, Michael McElhatton. Interesting, since McGinty looks more like the book description. It will be a surprise now to see how they play this.

  108. J
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    I thought I remembered seeing the casting call for Daario say something like “Any ethnicity but Caucasian” – did I imagine that?

  109. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    darquemode,

    http://www.lisathomasmanagement.com/mackenzie-crook/

    Niiiiiiiiiiice! Vargo Hoat-ish to this woman!

  110. Ours is the Fury
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    J,

    It was what someone at the agency had told an actor who wanted to audition for roles. We have no idea if they’ve stuck to that idea for Daario. I do hope so.

  111. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Some good points….. I pictured Arianne more Sephardic, but Emmanuel could fit the role nicely!

    One small thing though.. we don’t know that Emmanuel got ONLY that script because she is only in one episode, it could be they only handed out her first script for now, or she did not take a pic of them all if there were more…..

    I think they may be adding some Bran scenes and some of the Riverlands scenes from ACoK into this season, and then adding the Iron Island scenes from AFfC into Season 4…. so it may not be that much original material added.

    Timeline wise I think they should technically even be adding the Iron Island scenes into Season 3 depending on when the RW takes place in Season 3 or 4. Didn’t Robb get word of Balon’s death before the RW?

  112. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Menelmakil,

    Thanks, I’ll re-read the passage in case I’ve turned around any other facts. Thanks
    again :D

  113. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I asked similar questions above to Ours is the Fury but did not get an answer, I’m
    gonna re-read those passages. Maybe darquemode or Aegon the Conquerer knows offhand.
    Re: Margaery and ladies-in waiting fondness for riding horses.

  114. WildSeed
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    What about David Wenham? There’s got to be a place for him. Someone
    maybe can take a salary cut ( ser Dontos/ Captain America for instance )
    to make it happen :D

  115. Lin Beifunk
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    tysnow:
    My thinking about Emmanuel being Arianne is the following……..
    1. Only one episode (Messandei would be in more than one)

    Wait, how do we know she’s only in one episode? Showing a picture of one script doesn’t mean that’s the only script she’s in. Or did I miss something?

  116. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I do not recall exactly, but I think Margery liked to go riding….

    However, I’m not sure that matters honestly… It seems like some of the “horse” scenes in the books have been de-horsed in the series. I’m not sure if that will continue in future episodes though.

  117. darquemode
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I have not heard anything about Wenham. I heard about Curry being cast on a general TV spoiler site…. No clue about Wenham other than many like him for Beric and Edmure etc.

  118. Ava Garrison
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    While I can see Nathalie Emmanuel as Arianne, I don’t see why she couldn’t as easily be Ellaria. They’ve changed the looks of people in the past. Or am I missing something?

  119. oh-bb
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    STRONG BELWAS STRONG BELWAS STRONG BELWAS

    I WANT HIM.

    PUT HIM IN, GUYS.

  120. Biscotti
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    Could imagine Frankie as Ramsay..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1LYtgD024Y

  121. oh-bb
    Posted June 30, 2012 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    Now that I got that out of my system…. I do think Missandei will be aged up, since Dany has now lost her handmaids, and it might be helpful for her to have a woman to talk to. Unless they want to focus on her being alone.

  122. Trenton Martell
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    Nicolai Hansen,

    i thought Missandei for Emmanuel the moment i saw her

  123. Arthur
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Trenton Martell,

    Missandie is the girl that talks like this right?

    “This one will be Dany’s handmaiden, this one will advise Dany”

    I loved how she talked, hope they keep that in the script…

  124. andrea
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    Missandei is possibly the most sane person around Daenerys, but she´s a little girl, that´s what makes her unique. I don´t care if she has no golden eyes or a face like a moon and dusky skin (but would be great no? truly beautiful) but she should remain a child. If they choose a teenager I would prefer they invent a new character with a new name.
    Right, I said it. I don´t want to be reasonable.

  125. Lina
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:19 am | Permalink

    If these are all actual castings, I’m hoping for:

    Crook – Hoat
    McGinty – Ramsey
    McGinley – Dondarrion
    Bolger – Meera
    Emmanuel – Missandei or similar role (Dany’s handmaiden/translator/female friend)

    I really have no idea who Myranda will be. I really don’t think it’s Myranda Royce or Meera Reed. A few guesses are: a Tyrell cousin, a Frey girl (possibly in place of Roslin), a victim of Ramsay Bolton (i.e. Kyra). Out of those, I think Myranda Frey would make the most sense to be cast in Season 3. I’m just hoping she’s not Ros v.2.

  126. Biscotti
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Think they are filming in Banbridge Ireland, based on this assistant director who seems to be working with HBO (he tweeted Nathalie recently).

    https://twitter.com/cmccormick89

  127. shapooo!
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    i have heard Rhys Ifans is cast as the VIPER!

    is that true he is awesome in the movie anonemous!!!!

  128. Michel
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:50 am | Permalink

    Since that I put the image of Cillian Murphy for Ramsay, every other actor is not enough for me hehehe, i know it’s impossible because he is a hollywood star, but Cillian IS Ramsay..

    Btw, for me Mckenzie would be a fucking great Vargo, Charlotte i think it’s a Margeary cousin, Nathalie as Missandei, Sarah as Meera and Philip as Beric

  129. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    Biscotti: Could imagine Frankie as Ramsay..

    He does have the look of Ramsay… but that clip didn’t do much for me. Not familiar with this actor, what else has he done? Ramsay and Daario are the two characters who I am most curious about, casting wise!

  130. Heidi
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    I got my wish last year Liam Cunningham in season 2 as Davos :) (love him, AWESOME ACTOR)
    Now my wish for season 3 is Maggie Smith for the Queen of Thornes or Judy Dench :)
    Omg ,what a hoot that would be if they could score one of those ladies.
    Who will they get to play Penny and her brother?
    For Vargo Hoat I think is his name should be Tim Roth or Ray Winstone both would be awesome!
    Alan Rickman for ANYTHING :)

  131. Alex Also
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    MCKenzie Crook would be an excellent Qyburn.

    While we’re on odd-looking people for the Night’s Watch though, Mat Baynton would be brilliant. He does a great deadpan that would have made him a fabulous Dolorous Ed.

  132. Michael
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:06 am | Permalink

    I’d like to add Eileen Atkins and Linda Hunt as possible Queen Of Thorns

  133. Heidi
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Sean Connery if they could get him out of retirement :)

  134. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:11 am | Permalink

    Oh no, just when it’s all kicking off, I have to go on vacation!! With no or very limited internet access for almost three weeks! Argh……maybe I should just cancel my holidays? ;-)

    Charlotte Hope seems way too fragile for the world of GoT…meaning she’s perfect to break viewer’s hearts, like Gilly the past season. And hey, I guess I must be dreaming, because no way The Crook would ever play a role in GoT, right? This show is becoming legendary…

  135. Tar Kidho
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:15 am | Permalink

    Biscotti,

    he had just a small role and Not Going Out (great as it is!!!) is not exactly a show that produces great acting, but still I wasn’t impressed by his appearance there… But hey, if he gets cast it means that Nina Gold believes in him, so why exactly did I write all those words? Oh yes, just to say how Fan.Tas.Tic Not Going Out is ;-)

  136. Ice&Fire
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Charlotte Hope has the looks as a certain Frey girl, they could have just renamed her character

  137. caravaggio
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:29 am | Permalink

    Got all giddy reading Mackenzie Crook’s name in there! That would be a ASoIaFan dream come true. Unless… his hanging with Night’s Watch members means he’ll be shooting in the same sets or environments as them? Mad speculation: could he be VARAMYR SIXSKINS?

  138. Fire And Blood
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:50 am | Permalink

    Just updated the post above:

    @FrankieMcGinty: @Axechucker Oh, not true I’m afraid. I wish it was though!

    Too bad!

  139. Megan D.
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:24 am | Permalink

    David Oakes mentioned hanging out with Kristian Nairn. Oakes also said he was hanging out with “Bronn”. He just left the Borgias. Beric or Edmure possibly?

  140. Obsidian
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:26 am | Permalink

    caravaggio,

    I don’t think it’s such mad speculation :) ( see above ) It would be all menace ,and no humour , though…Good either way ,by me.

  141. Megan D.
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:37 am | Permalink

    On second thought, Nairn and Oakes seem to both be in Dublin for something called Ripper Street which also features Jerome Flynn. Small casting pools will fool ya every time.

  142. Jay Sutherland
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:12 am | Permalink

    A small tidbit of info:
    I noticed on Frankie McGinty’s CV he had done Cult Fiction, which I was offered a role in but had to turn down due to other commitments. One of my good friends ended up doing it so I can ask him what he thinks about Frankie! :) as far as I can remember from the Cult Fiction script, Frankie’s character, Moth, was a lazy, layabout student. That is all.
    EDIT: just noticed the post about Frankie tweeting that it isn’t true. Damn.

  143. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:19 am | Permalink

    Jay Sutherland:
    A small tidbit of info:
    I noticed on Frankie McGinty’s CV he had done Cult Fiction, which I was offered a role in but had to turn down due to other commitments. One of my good friends ended up doing it so I can ask him what he thinks about Frankie! :) as far as I can remember from the Cult Fiction script, Frankie’s character, Moth, was a lazy, layabout student. That is all.
    EDIT: just noticed the post about Frankie tweeting that it isn’t true. Damn.

    Here’s Frankie in Cult Fiction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlewqiOMHYg
    Too bad the speculation wasn’t true, that clip makes me like him. He has an appearance that fits GoT.

    On the other hand, Sarah Bolger still hasn’t denied or confirmed anything regarding her tweeting about Belfast… Silence is suspicious!!

  144. Draig
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:37 am | Permalink

    Ice&amp;Fire,

    Wow…. I think that’s the best suggestion I’ve heard all day…OMFG she’s perfect, the eyes, the fragile look… I pray to the Gods you’re right….one step closer to THE EVENT….aaaaaaa!!!!!it’s killing me!!!

  145. caoimay
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    jellydonut,

    SARAH BOLGER IS MEERA! IM SO EXCITED

  146. caoimay
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Heidi:
    Alan Rickman for ANYTHING :)

    Would alan do a tv show?

  147. HouseLark
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:09 am | Permalink

    I think that Charlotte Hope is Meera Reed. I think she is listed as Myranda either to keep her identity secret, or more likely, Meera has had a name change similar to Asha Greyjoy. They may have done this to distinguish more clearly between Meera and Meereen.

    Nathalie Emmanuel is Missandei I’m sure. She only posted a script of one episode but that doesn’t mean she’s only in one episode.

    Mckenzie Crook: There’s no reason he couldn’t be the Lightning Lord. Remember that Beric was handsome at the Tourney of the Hand; by the time Arya sees him he’s been stabbed in the eye, hanged and had his skull caved in. She remarks how different he looks and far from handsome.

  148. caoimay
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    on IMDb it says charlotte hope is in ep 3.1 so she can’t be a frey i’m thinking!
    Maybe a tyrell or dalla?

  149. Macha
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    caoimay,

    IMO she looks a bit too young and frail to be cast as Dalla. A Tyrell is more plausible, but I’m thinking more and more that we’re looking at Meera.

  150. havok_
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    caoimay,

    IMDb isn’t reliable at all when it comes to this kind of information. It’s user-edited and poorly moderated.

  151. Erik
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:32 am | Permalink

    Mmhhh Charlotte Hope could be Roslyn F, renamed Myranda.
    Why ? Because of Ros. Ros/Roslyn are maybe too similar for the audience.
    So they changed her name for Myranda.

  152. caoimay
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Macha,

    sarah bolger has to be meera though, shes perfect

    shes def too young for dalla, and too big a ‘name’ for a smaller part

  153. caoimay
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    Erik,

    ros! of course theyd change it! I was trying to think why the name change if she is roslin

  154. Macha
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    Erik: Because of Ros. Ros/Roslyn are maybe too similar for the audience

    It makes sense, though imagine the grumbling if a character’s name would be changed on account of Ros. ;) Still, that was also my initial thought when people here started suggesting Roslyn Frey, it really fits.

    caoimay,
    Agreed, but sadly all we have to go on with this speculation is a deleted tweet which doesn’t sound all that convincing in its own.

  155. Virtus
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    caoimay,

    Prior to season 2 IMDB also claimed that Sean Bean would reappear in episode 10…

  156. HouseLark
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Sarah Bolger – part of Margaery’s court.

  157. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:11 am | Permalink

    Elio said on the westeros.org forum: “Crook is not Hoat, I can say that much.”

  158. The Rabbit
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    MoonCoffee,

    hmm, it seems Elio has some info on that matter.

  159. Macha
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    MoonCoffee: “Crook is not Hoat, I can say that much.”

    Ramsay Ramsay Ramsay *stubborn*

  160. Mormegil
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    MoonCoffee: Elio said on the westeros.org forum: “Crook is not Hoat, I can say that much.”

    I wonder could Crook actually be Ramsay?

    If he’s not Hoat I can’t think what other (majorish) role he might go for, unless it’s something totally out of left field like Mance Rayder.

  161. Macha
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    He fits the ‘extreme looking’ casting rumour (or was that an established fact?) well enough, and didn’t that also come from westeros.org?

  162. The Rabbit
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    If he’s not Hoat I can’t think what other (majorish) role he might go for, unless it’s something totally out of left field like Mance Rayder.

    It could be. The thing that bothers me the most is that Crook is rather “big” name for playing a “small” role.

    Having that in mind I just can not see him playing someone like Tom O Sevens or even Beric.
    Even it is hard to imagine, I think Crook is Ramsay (or that role is also too small) or Mance or Edmure.

    Then we are left with McGinly = my money is on Beric!

    *I have a nice feeling that this thread reminds of legendary casting clues threads of August 2009.

  163. Khaleesi sam
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Cant wait!!!!!!

  164. Khaleesi sam
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    Gonna start reading the books properly, im loving the tv series, im hooked :)

  165. House Snow
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    So is Elio confirming Crook is in the show or confirming that he knows who is playing Hoat. It is wierd that should Crook be in the show that he is only hanging with the nightwatch, where it is harder to imagine who he cpuld. Surely he isn’t Mance.

  166. Rero
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    I am dissapointed about the nationality of the rumored (and wished for) new casting members. It are all actors and actresses from Great Brittain and Ireland. I expected for Nina Gold (and fans of GOT) to watch beyond that. Wasn’t Tom Wlaschiha acting work one of the most loved performances?
    There is so many acting talent on continental Europe. So look beyond GB and Ireland!

  167. Mormegil
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    House Snow: So is Elio confirming Crook is in the show or confirming that he knows who is playing Hoat.

    Could be either (or both) but I think it’s likely he knows Crook is playing someone else.

    I think he would be a decent Ramsay or as as I said earlier a possible Mance, afterall Jon mistakes everyone else in the tent (well not the Women) for Mance so having a non Kingly looking Mance might be the way they go.

    Recent pic of Crook from the film Ironclad.
    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3470638592/nm0188871

    While he is over 40 (so old enough to be Mance) he still looks fairly youthful so could IMO pass for a son of Roose Bolton.

  168. Prork
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Mackenzie Crook fits the description pretty well for Tom O’ Sevens.

  169. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    I’ve updated the post with Elio’s comment about Crook. If you all come across across any more spec and tips, let me know and we can add it to the post to keep things tidy. :)

  170. The Rabbit
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    I do not think so that Elio knows which character Crook is playing. He probably only knows that Crook is not Vargo – or Vargo is somebody else.

    Crook could be Mance.

  171. John
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    Crook is rather old for Ramsay – he’s 41, not much younger than the actor playing Roose, and much older than Alfie Allen. There’s no way he’s Mance – Crook plays *weirdos*.

  172. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Could Crook= Black Walder or Raymund Frey?

  173. Blink
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Mormegil: I think he would be a decent Ramsay or as as I said earlier a possible Mance, afterall Jon mistakes everyone else in the tent (well not the Women) for Mance so having a non Kingly looking Mance might be the way they go.

    That’s a pretty good point, I’d forgotten that detail from the book. Honestly, I could see him playing any of Mance, Tom O’, Beric, Ramsay, or even other roles…I assume he would be cast as someone significant, though.

  174. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    Could Crook = Reek? Patchface? Shagwell?

  175. Abyss
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:10 am | Permalink

    Maybe Crook will play Styr, the Magnar of Thenn? Tower of the hand describes him as slender and wiry like Crook is and the role could be big enough.

  176. houndlover
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Crook= Qyburn????

    I know he’s meant to be an old man, but I see him as younger, skinny & creepy, playing his dungeon games

  177. snapbackd
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    I mean no offense to the actor but I’m sort of glad that McGinty denied that he was cast on this show, I really didn’t like the feel of him as Ramsay and I didn’t really see him playing anyone else.

    Bring on Iwan is all I can say!

  178. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    House Snow:
    So is Elio confirming Crook is in the show or confirming that he knows who is playing Hoat.It is wierd that should Crook be in the showthat he is only hanging with the nightwatch, where it is harder to imagine who he cpuld.Surely he isn’t Mance.

    He’s not only with the Night’s Watch, if you go to the reddit thread it said Loras and Gendry are also with them.

  179. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Tar Kidho,

    We will hold the fort down for you and just think Tar (or do you prefer to be called Kidho?), When you get back you will have so much to be excited about and catch up on! XD

  180. Tessa Leonie
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    I love these posts sooo much, can’t wait for confirmations.

  181. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    MoonCoffee,

    You’re right, that probably misled some thinking about possible roles. I edited the post to note Joe and Finn’s presence there too that night. Thanks!

  182. John G
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Rero,

    Also the USA! The books were written by an American and Dinklage (the lone Yank) won the Emmy. I know it’s expensive to fill the cast with Americans but one or two more certainly wouldn’t hurt, no?

  183. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    So….
    Do they know who Crook is playing or do they know who will be playing the Goat?
    Insiders and their private information! Ack.. Pffft!

    I just cannot see Crook as Beric!
    Physically I can place him in hte role due to his gauntness, but can you imagine Crook battling the Hound? Please no! XD
    I mean I’m sure with camera trickery and well done fight choreography it could be pulled off, but…..

  184. Pepi
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Crook (if he is indeed cast) could also be someone Dany has to deal with in Astapor or Yunkai … perhaps they’re adding some face to Good (or Wise) Masters, someone Dany will be able to interact with. Another Spice King-like character, maybe.

    Also … I’m kinda glad he’s not cast as Cargo Hoat. Never imagined the Goat that way. Still hope they can get Predrag Bjelac for that role.

  185. Kroket
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Charlotte Hope looks Meera-ish… How tall/short is she??
    I do think Sarah has to be Meera though cause who else would she play? I never heard of Charlotte before but Sarah is much too big an actress for a small role (unless they are sizing up that plot…)

    I love how the show keeps casting people we call in other roles (sarah was one of my favorites for margaery together with imogen poots), natalie was a fav for mel and others have mentioned carice as cersei…

  186. Impi
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Loved this pic of Simon Pegg and Issac. Is he even at all a possibility (cause, love him!)? He posted the pic on the 25th.

    http://twitpic.com/a0dyk1

  187. Juan
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Joseph Gilgun for Ramsay!!

  188. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Kroket,

    According to her CV Chalotte Hope is 5’3″.
    Sarah Bolger is 5’5″.
    Not that a couple inches makes a difference necessarily…..

  189. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Juan,

    I could see him as Ramsay…. he could make a fun Vargo Hoat too!

  190. Impi
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    darquemode: Not that a couple inches makes a difference necessarily…..

    … must resist….

  191. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Impi,

    *faceplam!*
    I cannot believe I wrote that without a qualifier!
    Shame on me! XD

  192. McTrigger
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Crook already looks like some kind of ghoul. Imagine him after makeup has been applied. Why shouldn’t he play Dondarrion?

  193. Baldyr Blüetooth
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    I can picture Emmanuel as Taena Merryweather and it would make sense to introduce her as one of Margery´s friends this season already.
    However it would be unusual to introduce a new character before they feel they really need to (unfortunately imo , but this may have budget reasons).

    So if she´s not Taena she might be from Essos, a female wise master maybe?
    Ah right someone sugested Missandei, good point, but she might be too grown up.

    As for Miranda I also think one of Marge´s cousins or an unusually pretty Frey girl seems likely.

  194. Wes
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    McTrigger:
    Crook already looks like some kind of ghoul. Imagine him after makeup has been applied. Why shouldn’t he play Dondarrion?

    Heh heh. That’s an interesting way of putting it. I haven’t seen him in a serious role, but he does have a gaunt build to him, which would be appropriate for Dondarrion.

  195. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    No offense but i think the Sarah Bolger rumor is a bunch of bogus . Apart from some user supposedly seeing some deleted twit of her being in Belfast nothing is really confirmed . And if she was in Belfast that has to necessarily mean she is in the show ? At least Crook was seen with some cast members

  196. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    I saw that someone tweeted that Henry Ian Cusick is filming a movie right now…. Any idea what the film is? I’ve looked a little bit and cannot find him attached to any project….

  197. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    More than one person saw her tweet she was in Belfast, but I agree there is little substance to the Bolger rumors. She could easily have been in town just for personal reasons, or some other job.

    Cusick is filming a small independent movie called “An Act of God” with a short shooting schedule. It wouldn’t interfere with him taking a role such as Mance that would film later in the fall.

  198. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Good to know thanks!
    And you even answered what I was wondering in addition to just what he was filming!
    + 25 bonus points

  199. omer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Crook looks exactly like i imagined Berric although i would like to see him play a twisted evil character.

  200. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    It’s not that i would not like her to be on the show don’t get me wrong, it’s that i keep seeing this comments for her as Meera and i think people would be dissapointed if they found out she’s not in the show at all . I mean at least of the other people we know they are in the show we just don’t know what role they are .

  201. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    I can’t see Crook as Beric, and I hope that doesn’t happen. And now we know he’s most likely not Hoat, so that’s interesting…

  202. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    No, I agree, she’d be a fantastic Meera, but we don’t actually have any proof of anything. But hey, it’s speculation and rumors post. If people get carried away and assume it’s right, that’s their call.

  203. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Might Mackenzie Crook be playing one of the Night’s Watch that will have a bigger role this year? Cotter Pyke or Thoren Smallwood maybe?

    Those are the two that have the most similar physical description I could find via Wiki…..
    - Cotter Pyke has small, close-set eyes, a broken nose and a pox ravaged face. He has a widow’s peak and a sparse, rough beard. He is lean, hard and wiry.
    - Thoren was sinewy with a weak chin and mouth hidden beneath a thin beard.[2] He hated the wildlings

  204. J
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    If he’s not Hoat, I think I’m going to guess Beric or Tom.

  205. henry
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink
  206. evilclosetmonkey
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Yeah, if he’s not Hoat then Beric seems most likely to me

  207. multimasking1
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Erik,

    This is about the best explanation Ive heard. I seriously doubt Meera Reed is a character whose name would be changed, while a character like Roslin Frey is quite frankly less important to canon. Charlotte Hope actually looks a lot like the illustrations of Roslin too. She probably could have made a good Meera too but I don’t think we’ll hear about a Meera casting without also hearing about a Jojen casting.

    Also, if MacKenzie Crook is in fact playing Beric Dondarrion, am I the only one who finds the whole missing eye parallel between his role in Pirates of the Carribean funny? The guy who they had play Beric in season 1 was honestly closer to my mental image – Crook is a lot skinnier and not as “distinguished” looking as I imagined him, but then again I suppose he had looked better by the time the events of season 3/ASoS.

  208. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    For general purposes, this is the list of roles that will be definitely be cast, from what D&D told EW a month ago (minus Shireen & Blackfish, since they’ve been cast):

    – Mance Rayder

    – Daario Naharis

    – Jojen Reed

    - Meera Reed

    – Edmure Tully

    – Lady Selyse Florent

    – Olenna Redwyne (The Queen of Thorns)

    – Beric Dondarrion

    – Thoros of Myr

    – Tormund Giantsbane

    Benioff: “And a few others…holy hell that’s a lot of new faces.” (From the EW article.)

  209. Malaysian Gooner
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    I never thought about this until someone just mentioned it to me, but wouldn’t Hrithik Roshan (Bollywood actor) make a great Oberyn Martell? I can only imagine how great the fight with Gregor would be.

    The only problem I could see from this is that almost everyone from Dorne would then need to be Indian as well which would make casting harder. Having said that, there’s millions of Indians in the UK so it might not be as hard as imagined.

  210. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Malaysian Gooner,

    I had searched the web for Actors to play Daario and thought he could be a brilliant Daario too!

    I had him listed in my casting speculation thread, but someone commented that he rarely does anything outside of India so I removed him. But his look, physique and acting ability would make him a fab addition to Thrones as either The Red Viper or Daario!

    http://media.glamsham.com/download/wallpaper/celebrities/images/h/hrithik-roshan-78-12×9.jpg
    http://www.miniih.com/miniiblog/bollywood/files/Image/Hrithik-Roshan-Provogue-4.jpg
    http://www.magxone.com/uploads/2009/10/Hrithik-Roshan-Provogue-Photo-Shoot-5.jpg
    http://www2.hiren.info/desktopwallpapers/bollywood/hrithik-roshan-22g.jpg
    http://banglainfo.net/lightbox/Bollywood/Hrithik%20Roshan/13%20India,%20Bollywood%20Actor%20Hrithik%20Roshan.jpg

  211. Flouride
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I could see Crook playing someone like Chett :)

  212. Arvin
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Myranda is perhaps our Missandei? Not the right colour obviously, but the name change can be there due to >Melisandre<.

  213. Malaysian Gooner
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    That is very interesting. He would make a good Daario too but I worry that he is a bit too old for Dany’s lust for him to make sense. Knowing the producers though, they could make it work somehow. And I believe that the reason he hasn’t done movies outside of India is because he’s not a big fan of the Hollywood scene. This isn’t Hollywood though, far from it…literally.

  214. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    You are right, it could be a coincidence. But that is why it’s called rumor and speculation. People can choose to believe or not.

    Claudiu Gherganu:
    No offense but i think the Sarah Bolger rumor is a bunch of bogus . Apart from some user supposedly seeing some deleted twit of her being in Belfast nothing is really confirmed . And if she was in Belfast that has to necessarily mean she is in the show ? At least Crook was seen with some cast members

  215. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Bolger would make a perfect Meera.

    McKenzie Crook would completely ruin the show.

  216. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Malaysian Gooner,

    That’s true…
    We do have a couple cases of older men with young girls on Thrones like Crastor and Walder Frey, but they are meant to be creepy becasue of it.

  217. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer:
    Sarah Bolger would make a perfect Meera.

    McKenzie Crook would completely ruin the show.

    Why do you think so ?

  218. fuelpagan
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Crook my be playing a slave master.

  219. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    I don’t mind Crook being in the show, I just don’t want him to play Dondarrion :/ Sean Harris is already burned into my mind for that role, but it’s very unlikely to happen. I guess I’ll have to wait for the official announcement :(

  220. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    He’s an awful actor who looks like a clown anytime he appears on screen.

  221. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Actors I don’t want in the show

    Sean Harris
    Robert Carlyle
    David Oakes
    McKenzie Crook
    Tony Curran
    Ray Winstone

  222. Ash
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    if you think of the scene in season 1 were we get a glimpse of lord beric you can see why Mackenzie Crook could get that role

  223. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see why they don’t just use the actor who played Beric from season 1.

  224. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    The good news for you is that 3 or 4 of those actors should be busy filming other projects during Thrones shoot time. Carlyle (Once Upon a Time), Curran (Defiance) and Harris (The Borgias) for sure… I don’t watch the Borgias… is Oakes character still alive?

  225. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    That is good news indeed :-)

    I don’t know about Oakes, the second season starts here at the end of July so I’ll soon find out.

  226. Liam
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    3 actors that I want in Game Of Thrones:
    Ron Perlman
    Iwan Rheon
    Christopher Eccleston

  227. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Liam,

    Eccleston IMO would have made a great Stannis.

  228. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Really, Crook as Ramsay????? He’s a lad meant to be in his late teens/early 20′s. He’s ROOSE BOLTONS SON! Not his brother…..

    However, Crook as Varamyr 6 Skins? I could see that. He’s gaunt & not very pleasant.

    Gaspard Ulliel for Ramsay!!!!!

    http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/3/31/28/3/@/214166-gaspard-ulliel-dans-le-role-titre-de-637×0-2.jpg

    I can’t see anyone else now as Ramsay now he’s been shown to me, I’ll despise any other casting. (Unless it’s Michael Pitt, or possibly Tom Hardy)

  229. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Nope, David Oakes is free as a bird at the moment .

  230. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer:
    Liam,

    Eccleston IMO would have made a great Stannis.

    I agree 100%. Ecclestone would have been perfect. But to give credit where credit’s due, I think Stephen Dillane is rocking the role and I can’t imagine anyone else now. My opinion of course. :-)

  231. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    I would hazard a guess that Nathalie is to play Messendei (sic).

    And if this Charlotte girl has been cast as Myranda Royce, maybe they are introducing her character early to help LF steal Sansa away from Kings Landing, as she is ‘Alaynnes’ friend when they reach the Eeyrie. Or, she could be one of Margery’s cousins?

    I just pray to the God of Many Faces that they are NOT introducing another character who is not in the books…. ‘Tulisa’ should have put a stop to that!

    Or! ‘Myranda’ could be Edmures bride-to-be at the RW????

  232. Nick Larter
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    If one is not too set on having the actor match the description of the character in the book, then Mackenzie Crook could be very apt for Lothar Frey.

  233. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter,

    I agree! My bet is that Crook is going to play one of the Freys.

  234. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    TheFlayedLady:
    I would hazard a guess that Nathalie is to play Messendei (sic).

    And if this Charlotte girl has been cast as Myranda Royce, maybe they are introducing her character early to help LF steal Sansa away from Kings Landing, as she is ‘Alaynnes’ friend when they reach the Eeyrie. Or, she could be one of Margery’s cousins?

    I just pray to the God of Many Faces that they are NOT introducing another character who is not in the books…. ‘Tulisa’ should have put a stop to that!

    Or! ‘Myranda’ could be Edmures bride-to-be at the RW????

    Talisa is just Jeyne with a different name and backstory . From what we know they may do the same events from the book that Jeyne has so it’s not exactly a character not from the books like Ros .

  235. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    The featured extra in season 1 is not coming back. It’s someone they used as a stand-in for budget reasons. He might not even have the required acting skills. Thus they are bringing in someone who does.

  236. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    I’m not necessarily a fan of him for the role, but I can see him as Edmure like some have suggested…. He is relatively tall at 6’1″ so maybe even Beric for that matter.
    http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/08/96/322a4ad2db1a33d614dd33201db1372d.jpg

  237. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Yeah by the end of the season Dillane had transformed into Stannis, and he generated some good chemistry with Liam Cunningham.

  238. John
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Can we please get Ruth Wilson, Toby Stephens and Matthew Macfadyen on GoT

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2235721/

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0827170/

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0532193/

  239. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Nathalie Emmanuel to me looks like a Martell.

  240. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter,

    Oh I quite like that idea!

    He would have a nice multi-episode arc and some good face time. He stil lwould not have his own story arc exactly like Beric or Vargo Hoat etc…. but it could be a decent sized role with the book scenes he has and a few added scenes.

  241. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    He’s really good as a villain character mostly . I was impressed by him in TPOTE and the Borgias .

  242. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Oh, I know, I just didn’t get why they had to change Jayne Westerling to Talisa… there was no point. And I know GRRM helps with the writing/directing etc, but it still seemed silly as if they are going to stick to the same story with what awaits them, why change her name/background? It makes me scared is all, as season 2 was quite ‘meh’ in comparison to season 1.

    Side note: We might not even get Ramsay yet, he doesn’t appear until ADWD :(

  243. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    John,

    I could see Toby playing The Crows Eye.

  244. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    John,

    Loved Ruth Wilson in Luther!

    I would love to see Macfadyen too. I could not quite find the perfect role in my mind though. I thought maybe a younger Thoros, but he does not look ragged enough. That can be done with makeup of course I guess (like in Pillars of the Earth), but he has the height and plays devout roles quite well.

  245. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    TheFlayedLady,

    I disagree that season 2 was “meh” compared to season 1 in fact i think it’s better than season 1, which i may be one of the few who think it’s quite overrated . As for Ramsay someone said that they were doing auditions for him so i think we will see him in season 3.

  246. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    I liked him in Pillars, I did not watch enough of The Borgias to get a grasp on his role or performance there…

    I pictured Edmure a little older, but he is not too far off really. Beric could be interesting too…. although I would like to see someone a little taller in that role if I’m honest. Of course the height is not a prerequisite for the role, but I always imagined Beric as a fairly tall strapping knight… before the multiple deaths and such. XD

  247. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Claudiu Gherganu,

    I liked him in Pillars, I did not watch enough of The Borgias to get a grasp on his role or performance there…

    I pictured Edmure alittle older, but he is not too far off really.Beric could be interesting too….although I would like to see someone a little taller in that role if I’m honest. Of course the height is not a preequisite for the role, but I always imagined Beric as a fairly tall strapping knight… before the multiple deaths and such. XD

    His most impressive acting is mainly in season 2 if you want to get a true grasp of him in the show . Kinda like how Alfie Allen improved in the role of Theon this season .

  248. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    How old is Edmure supposed to be in ASoS?

  249. Rero
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    John G:
    Rero,

    Also the USA! The books were written by an American and Dinklage (the lone Yank) won the Emmy. I know it’s expensive to fill the cast with Americans but one or two more certainly wouldn’t hurt, no?

    Funny, till now I thought George RR Martin was Canadian.

  250. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    9 or 10 years younger than Catelyn (she was born 264 AL , Edmure 273 AL)….
    With the way they aged up Catelyn I would think Edmure would be too, but not necessarily.

  251. Michel
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Fuck life..Mackenzie Crook is in the show, i don’t fucking care who he is gonna be, but he is in the show, he can be Walda Frey if he wants…but seriously, he would be a PERFECT Vargo, IMO I can’t imagine he as Beric or Ramsay

  252. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Ah, ok. So an actor in his mid 30s would be good I assume.

  253. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Yep.
    Honestly though I picture Edmure as mid-to-late 30s in my mind after watching the series.

    I think he was more late 20s, early 30s in the books, but I could be wrong. That younger age range works well for his character so they may not need to age him up like they did Catelyn.

  254. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    I hope so, I’m so excited for Bastard, my heart beats a little faster every time he’s mentioned :D (For those who have read the books, yes, I know it is wrong to be excited by this man, but Gods be good, I can’t help it)

    And we will have to agree to disagree on the ‘meh’-ness of seasons :) haha

  255. John
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer:
    John,

    I could see Toby playing The Crows Eye.

    darquemode:
    John,

    Loved Ruth Wilson in Luther!

    I would love to see Macfadyen too. I could not quite find the perfect role in my mind though. I thought maybe a younger Thoros, but he does not look ragged enough. That can be done with makeup of course I guess (like in Pillars of the Earth), but he has the height and plays devout roles quite well.

    Toby Stephens would make an excellent Euron Greyjoy,he was excellent as Rochester in Jane Eyre along with Ruth Wilson (as Jane).

    Plus Matthew Macfadyen and Ruth Wilson should be free now as they have finished shooting for Anna Karenina (2012).

    speaking of Macfadyen,just saw him with Claire Foy in Little Dorrit (2008),now she is another talent i would love to see in GoT –

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2946516/

    Lastly,my wishlist ends with the talented Daniela Denby-Ashe who starred in North & South (2004) along with Richard Armitage (too bad he is busy with the Hobbit films) -

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417349/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1WAgmqprbk&feature=related

    http://www.btinternet.com/~biffoman/daniela/pics/denby_ashe03.jpg

    i’m sure many scifi readers will recognize the book she has in her hand,hehe….

  256. andrea
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    John: Claire Foy in Little Dorrit

    so good!

  257. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    John,

    I like Foy a lot!
    Loved her in Little Dorrit and Upstairs, Downstairs.

    I know it will not happen, but I would love to see Mads Mikkelsen as Euron Greyjoy and Lars Mikkelsen as Victarion… Alas….

    I would have loved to see Armitage as Mance… maybe he can show up in a couple years.

  258. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t include these in the Mackenzie spec in the original post since we had enough on him, but I may as well throw it in here now:

    http://i46.tinypic.com/357fsle.jpg

    http://i48.tinypic.com/2it6ihj.jpg

    Two tweets from people who saw Crook on the plane WITH the Game of Thrones cast or getting off the plane at Heathrow with them.

  259. Shadowcat85
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Sophie follows McGinley now on Twitter. It could be coincidence…

  260. A Man Grown
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    You know who I dream-cast for Vargo Hoat? The lead singer of Gogol Bordello:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkkIwO_X4i4

    That band *is* The Brave Companions for me.

  261. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Shadowcat85,

    Yeah I noticed that. And I doubt it’s a coincidence. :)

  262. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Shadowcat85,

    It only makes sense for a girl to follow her nuncle on Twitter! XD
    The more I see him, the more I think we have our Edmure….

  263. Knurk
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    andrea: so good!

    brilliant miniseries that, love to see some castmembers hop over to Thrones (Eddy Marsan for any character will do)!

    I wonder if this casting-speculation has ever been so crazy without the froggy-hints. There’s some real hard-core digging going on here, good stuff. I wonder if there’s anyone left to announce for HBO at the end. The people in the plane/pub should have taken a picture so we could spot some actors they didn’t recognise.

  264. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    This can’t be a coincidence. He’s definitely a part of the cast now.

    I just hope HBO and GRRM somehow pick up on what we know and don’t start teasing actors and actresses we already know are cast in season 3 :/

  265. Langkard
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Well, I’m really bummed that Westeros.org is claiming they have confirmed that Crook isn’t being cast as Vargo Hoat but instead as someone else. I can only hope that they are wrong at Westeros. /sigh

    This is what I get for logging on to read the boards during the Euro 2012 half. Italy is in a really tough spot. How do you come back, down 2 goals, against the best defense in football? I guess I’ll give congratulations to Spain in advance for doing what no other football team has ever done: having two consecutive world championship titles plus the World Cup title at the same time.

  266. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    A woman thinks that Crook could also be Varymyr the Wilding Warg, it requires a menacing look and that guy does that well. Nobody has mentioned Patchface in a while, and it occurs to me that Danny DeVito would be an awesome Patchface (not that he’d want to, but that’s who a woman thinks of when reading Patchface in the books).

  267. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Do we have confirmation that Val is being postponed to Season 4?

    Anyway, the casting season is so exciting!

  268. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I thought the same thing earlier accept Orell. Of course he could be a combination of Varamyr and Orell.

    He really has a Wildling or Night’s Watch look to me. Although I guess BWB and the Bloody Mummers are a ragged bunch too!

  269. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi,

    At this point I don’t think there is confirmation of anyone NOT making it into Season 3. There was a partial list of 12 new roles to be cast on EW last month…. but even D&D said it was not in anyway a complete list.

  270. Zack
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    John,

    Loved Ruth Wilson in Luther!

    She was nails on the chalkboard of my mind, the only reason I do not sing the show’s praises as much as many others. But I’m undecided as to whether it’s the actress or her character that grated on me so. Still, as that’s all I have to go on, I’m hoping that I don’t have to find out one way or the other on Game of Thrones. I seem to be in the minority with that thinking though. I will have to watch Luther again, see if perhaps a second viewing changes my perception (not an uncommon thing with me).

    As for the rest of the casting rumors…it’s looking good, all around. In particular I concur wholeheartedly with the notion of Frankie McGinty bearing an uncanny resemblance to the description of Ramsay Snow.

  271. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Oh, OK. Though I remember that Val was the only relatively major character not included on that list (other than Oberyn) and her character can be easily cut for now and introduced later on.

  272. Ross
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    McKenzie Crook is a relatively big name – I think he might be Ramsay, however odd that initially seems (but hey, who would have thought Jerome Flynn would have been an ideal Bronn?)

  273. Macha
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Langkard: this is what I get for logging on to read the boards during the Euro 2012 half.

    Ha, I’m watching the game with one eye and reading Gwendoline Christie’s live-tweets with the other. She cracks me up.

  274. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi,

    That’s what makes this such an intensly interesting off-season for speculation to me, we do not know where they will split the book or the various story arcs. That means we do not know which characters can be left out for now and introduced next year.

    I guess we may gleen something about where they will end off by which roles they introduce.. ie the Dornish , the Meereenese.

  275. Josh Parker
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    All I can say is I strongly disagree. He does have an odd look, but that’s because he’s a character actor.

  276. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    I was doing that earlier too!
    She is just tweeting random things to annoy uberfans and amuse herself! XD
    Cracked me up!

  277. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Yea, Mackenzie Crook is far from awful.

  278. andrea
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: There’s some real hard-core digging going on here,

    yes, it´s like everyone is “Hauptmann Gerd Wiesler” from “The lives of others”.
    You´re scary people…who trained you? ;) We don´t need any frog!

    Yes, E Marsan is a genius. I loved Little Dorrit. Tom Courtenay is great too.

  279. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    McKenzie Crook is Razzie awful.

  280. Macha
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    andrea: yes, it´s like everyone is “Hauptmann Gerd Wiesler” from “The lives of others”.

    You know how on the interwebz you sometimes develop an image of someone’s appearance based solely on their name? Strangely enough, this is exactly how I pictured darquemode. LOL, I mean it in good fun, of course. This is an excellent time to acknowledge the immense dedication of many of the fans here that took time from their weekend to look up clues and..well, generally perfecting the art of stalking. ;) I kidd, I kidd.
    I’m truly grateful for all the wonderful news and speculation, I had loads of fun reading these threads and wish to thank you all.

  281. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t see anyone mention it, but Elio mentioned in one of their forum threads at Westeros.org that Beric is an “emaciated scarecrow” by the time Arya meets up with him. I’m taking that as a hint that Crook will be playing Beric, since he already confirmed that he isn’t playing Vargo Hoat.

  282. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    And what of his work has given you that opinion?

  283. Ross
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer: McKenzie Crook is Razzie awful.

    Eh? Based on what exactly? He’s a brilliant actor – saw him on stage in The Seagull and he was superb. Great in his breakthrough role in The Office as well. Are you by any chance basing your opinion on Pirates of the Caribbean? I don’t think he was funny in those films but purely because he had attrocious scripts to work with.

  284. andrea
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    hahah Who needs headphones when you have Hauptmann Darquemode at your disposal!

    Ours is the Fury: Give the whole fandom a hand for being vigilant and working together.

    you´re right… we have many many skilled captains!

  285. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Ross,

    Based on most of the performances I’ve seen him do, and brilliant is certainly not a word I would throw around describing him.

  286. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    The digging and discoveries in this post are the work of multiple people actually, on twitter and WiC and beyond. Give the whole fandom a hand for being vigilant and working together. Deny us Froggy clues, and we make them ourselves. :)

  287. LordStarkington
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Actors I want on this show if at all possible:

    Ray Winstone
    Tony Curran
    McKenzie Crook
    David Oakes
    Robert Carlyle
    Sean Harris

  288. Josh Parker
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Right off the top of my head, I think Crook could make a good Tom O’Sevens. If he can sing.

  289. Ross
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    Fair enough, you are fully entitled to your opinon.

    (Even though you’re wrong ;-) )

  290. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    So I think I might be a tad too obsessed.

    Kissed a beautiful woman today and met a female GoT fan.
    Highlight of my day…meeting the GoT fan.
    I love the series that much!

  291. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Ha!
    I was searching Twitter feeds and everything I could think of the other day when the first rumors broke!

    I have considerably mellowed since then and actually walked away from my PC! XD

    I am able to rationalize being on here so much because it has been over 90 outside for a while and I’m a delicate flower that wilts in such heat! XD
    Or I get sunburned peel and look like a calico….

  292. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    I was wondering what stage we would meet Beric in… IF that is the case I guess Mackenzie could be Beric, but I really wanted someone taller so the battle with the Hound would look more evenly matched. Although I guess the point of that is he dies and comes back so Beric can be puny and skinny and it just reinforces it…. Maybe?

  293. Josh Parker
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    There’s almost no way he’s Beric. They’ll go with someone who is at least moderately good-looking, considering he’s supposed to have been.

    The first guy they chose maybe wasn’t a male model, but he didn’t have a huge nose, protruding eyes and a jaw like some kind of woodland creature.

  294. The Rabbit
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    I am still wondering and worrying a bit about Ramsay.
    Why Winter was sure that the casting breakdown for young man with awkward look was indeed for that role?
    Was it confirmed somehow?
    I would not mind the answer of no/yes without further details if it is top-secret.

    The Crook stuff is indeed interesting, still thinking it is one majorish roles in question.

  295. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Seasons change and romances may die, but Winter is always coming for a Throne’s fan…
    I can see the logic in your highlight! XD

  296. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Ross,

    Perhaps I am being a bit harsh on the guy, I just don’t want to be distracted watching the show, it would be odd seeing Gareth from the office wondering around Westeros.

  297. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    GRRM does make a point in the books to say that Arya barely recognizes him becasue the Beric she met was handsome and this Beric is not… I agree with you for the most part (Beric was tall and handsome), but I can see them playing up the skeletor aspect more so…. The height bit still makes me wonder, but I guess it is not that important to the role…..

  298. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker:
    There’s almost no way he’s Beric….but he didn’t have a huge nose, protruding eyes and a jaw like some kind of woodland creature.

    Must we be so cruel? A woman is saddened that a fan would not think that actors also have feelings and can read internet forums. Before writing something, perhaps we should think, “could this be hurtful?”

  299. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    lol knew this was the one place I could say that and people wouldn’t think I was crazy.

    Josh Parker

    Well he does look like a warped version of the BErric we saw in season 1. With a bit of undead make up he could make it work.

  300. Josh Parker
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    I’d like to think actors are pretty strong, after all they chose a profession that puts them in the public eye all the time.

    If MacKenzie Crook is reading this, I just want to say that I love his acting work, I think he’s talented and hilarious, and his looks suits well the roles he has taken thus far.

  301. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Handsome and ugly are just so relative these days…. People complain about some actors being too pretty that I find quirky or striking but hardly pretty. And yet others may find that same actor as beautiful….

    I think it is a losing battle to assume an actor is too ugly or too pretty for a role. Too tall or short though…… or too old or too young… well, again that is even a losing battle most times I bet! XD

  302. Nick Larter
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Megan D.:
    David Oakes mentioned hanging out with Kristian Nairn. Oakes also said he was hanging out with “Bronn”. He just left the Borgias. Beric or Edmure possibly?

    Whilst this specific lead didn’t pan out (was re: Ripper Street), I hadn’t previously realised that Oakes has recently gone on the record stating that there’s a GoT role he’d like to go for:-

    http://theborgias.wetpaint.com/page/Fan+Chat+with+David+Oakes+June+10,+2012

    Googling around the ensuing speculation that this interview generated, it appears that most folk think he’s after Ramsay Snow.

  303. Langkard
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Hrmm…

    Maybe, just maybe, Mackenzie Crook is going to play Ramsay.

    Let the cat fighting begin!

    Mreow! Mreoooow! Fffffft!

  304. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter,

    More than one actor on the series has won me over after me originally thinking that they looked completely different than I imagined the role.
    That said, I simply cannot see him as Ramsay! XD

  305. Maxwell James
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer:
    Ross,
    Perhaps I am being a bit harsh on the guy, I just don’t want to be distracted watching the show, it would be odd seeing Gareth from the office wondering around Westeros.

    Odder than seeing Finchy?

  306. Knurk
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer: it would be odd seeing Gareth from the office wondering around Westeros.

    not more odd than seeing FINCHY!

    edit: ah Maxwell beat me to it!

  307. Macha
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter,

    I do wish David Oakes would try his hand at another type of role, after Pillars of the Earth and The Borgias I’d say that would come as a nice change. There is undoubtably some potential there and Ramsay is a meaty part, but at this point Oakes is so recognizable as a straight up and – dare I say it – single layered villain, that having him as Ramsay might just be detrimental to the part IMO.

  308. andrea
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Langkard: Mreow! Mreoooow! Fffffft!

    my cat beats yours, Langkard… that was a sad meow

    Macha: at this point Oakes is so recognizable as a straight up and – dare I say it – single layered villain

    this

  309. Nick Larter
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Agreed.

    But maybe he doesn’t think that way going by some of his answers in that interview. I liked these two:-

    In response to fan question/comment:

    David: “Evil characters seem to have the fun stuff to do it’s really as simple as that! But, as I’ve said before I like to bring the humanity into the darkness. Make you the audience question your expectations of blanket evilness.”

    He’d have his work cut out with Ramsay then. One of the few ASOIAF characters we’ve met with no obvious redeeming features.I always imagine that GRRM will have the Boltons going out in a blaze of glory in an heroic but doomed defence of the North against the white walkers and their zombie army

    Fan question What is your favorite book?
    David: “Favorite book, umm Probably something by John Fowles. maybe ‘Daniel martin’ or ‘The Collector’.”

    I could see Ramsay answering that question with ‘The Collector’ too :D

  310. Erik
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    I hope they will introduce Arianne Martell with The Red Viper at the Wedding, it will be more interesting for her character and more easily for the audience to follow her plan of revenge during season 4 and far more. And so I hope Nathalie Emmanuel is Arianne. Wait & see.

  311. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Erik,

    You mean season 5 seeing as ASoS will be two seasons? Correct me if I’m wrong, but we don’t hear about her plans until AFFC, yes? Makes no sense to introduce the Martell’s in season 3 as the Red Viper was not among the characters mentioned by D&D.

  312. Katie
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t see this suggested, so my apologies if someone else brought this up, but couldn’t Hope’s “Myranda” be a long-form version of “Meera”? She’s a good age for the role.

  313. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Katie,

    That possibility has been discussed a fair amount actually.

  314. Michel
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Nice to hear that Pyp is back (he was in Belfast)..but will be Greatjon back to ? I love the actor in Season 1..I think Season 3 will have all majors characters, but the only I’m a little worried is Belwas, nobody is talking of him :(

  315. Katie
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Oops, sorry! That’s what happens when you don’t read comments carefully.

  316. Bill
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    Mackenzie Crook will play Varamyr Sixskins, it is known.

  317. Carne
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Bill,

    I think Varamyr is one of those characters they’ll drop or combine with other wildlings into one character.

  318. Michel
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Carne:
    Bill,

    I think Varamyr is one of those characters they’ll drop or combine with other wildlings into one character.

    I think the only wildings with Jon Snow in S3 that will be named on the show IMO besides Mance, Rattleshirt, Ygritte will be Tormund, Varamyr, Val and Dalla..i think they will cut Harma, Orell, Styr and Weeper

  319. darquemode
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    They’ve all but eliminated the Jon=Warg story to this point (although the Wildlings would be a good spot to bring that story in I guess). I can see them dropping Orell and Varamyr easily…. Although I think Crook would be good as either or both combined.

    I’ve come to terms with him likely as Beric at this point….
    Not how I see Beric at all, but he fits one particular aspect of the role better than almost anyone else could… being gaunt. That trait was why I saw him as Vargo I guess… so why not Beric? *shrug*

  320. tysnow
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    I give you all The Princess of Dorne.
    Oh! and scroll down at your own risk.

  321. WildSeed
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Ours is the Fury,

    So….
    Do they know who Crook is playing or do they know who will be playing the Goat?Insiders and their private information! Ack.. Pffft!

    I just cannot see Crook as Beric!
    Physically I can place him in hte role due to his gauntness, butcan you imagine Crookbattling the Hound? Please no! XD
    I mean I’m sure with camera trickery and well done fight choreography it could be pulled off, but…..

    Reply: I still him as a major player Wildling / Pirate but that may be me just typecasting.
    McKenzie may represent Dondarrion’s wasted appearance but w/ superhuman strength
    as noted in the books. Was it ACOK that detailed that physical description? Anyways
    his uncanny ability to survive a beating or hanging as if by magic only adds to the
    theatrics on screen . He’d better look good beating down an opponent in choice scenes
    though. Suppose MC can wield a sword ? I see intense training with weights and sword
    play-dancing lessons.” Just stick them with the pointy end”. If Benioff and Weiss manage
    to hire Fionnula Flanagan for lady (Queen of Thorns) Martell, the universe will be at
    balance again. Too bad actor Mark Strong isn’t around to portray Roose Bolton, he’s
    wicked cool.

  322. Zack
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    If she can act, I can’t say I’d have a problem with that bit of casting. Heh.

  323. Arthur
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Wow… Who is that!?! She makes True Blood females look like stick figures…

  324. WildSeed
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    WOW. Nathalie’s beautiful in any garb I see, definitely a princess of Dorne likeness.

  325. WildSeed
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    Carne,

    I think the only wildings with Jon Snow in S3 that will be named on the show IMO besides Mance, Rattleshirt, Ygrittewill be Tormund, Varamyr, Val and Dalla..i think they will cut Harma, Orell, Styr and Weeper

    I’m afraid that may be true aside from the interesting storyline from the books. If Qhorin Halfhand got little mention I doubt we’ll see much of these guys. Initially I thought
    McKenzie Crook would be perfect as a skin changer. I agree with Ours is the Fury
    that on screen this may be a small role if any and not worthy of a prominent actor.

  326. WildSeed
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Langkard:
    Is it possible that McGinley is being cast as Daario?

    That’s an interesting thought!I have no idea if Crook can sing though.Wouldn’t the person playing Tom need to be able sing, at least?

    Reply : I nominate Adam Levine for Mance Raydor :D

  327. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    So who’s a fan of Michael McElhatton’s Roose Bolton? I definitely am. He did his job in limited screen time this season. He is going to Be awesome in season 3.

  328. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    I think the warging aspects of ASOIAF will find their way back into GoT. They’re too important, but I suspect they wanted to develop it more gradually. Consider how ADWD ends- a lot of people (myself included) think Jon will cheat death by warging into Ghost. GRRM didn’t write that long, warg-focused prologue for no reason. Because of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if we did see Varamyr. And if there’s a Varamyr, I could see Mackenzie Crook playing him, especially if they beefed up the part and added Orell parts to him.

  329. andrea
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: Michael McElhatton’s

    i saw him in Zen playing a rigid and fanatical chief of Italian police. Hilarious (without intention)

  330. Arthur
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I agree with you about Jon Snow and Ghost at the end of DoD.

    Either that or Mel brings him back and in doing so holds some magical power over him where she can use him as her pawn

  331. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I think Jon is going to be on “ice” for the majority of WoW (and inside Ghost) and it’s going to be Lady Stoneheart that brings him back, not Melisandre though she will be involved. Like Dondarrion did to her, she is going to give Jon her life force. That would complete Cat’s story arc perfectly.

  332. Arthur
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Wow nice call!

  333. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    Cool! That’s the one with Rufus Sewell right? I really like McElhatton. He has a mesmerizing presence. I think his Roose Bolton is fantastic. If he was cast as Tywin Lannister he would have pulled it off.
    But he can’t swagger villainously like Tywin Lannister…not yet anyway. Once things go into motion audiences will hate him as much as they hate Joffrey. If they made him as creepy as he was in the books the audience would know that he is up to no good. Another example of what works on paper doesn’t always work on television.

    Come on HBO, Burn Gorman or Andrew Scott for Ramsay!

  334. WildSeed
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    I think the warging aspects of ASOIAF will find their way back into GoT. They’re too important, but I suspect they wanted to develop it more gradually. Consider how ADWD ends- a lot of people (myself included) think Jon will cheat death by warging into Ghost. GRRM didn’t write that long, warg-focused prologue for no reason. Because of that, I wouldn’t be surprised if we did see Varamyr. And if there’s a Varamyr, I could see Mackenzie Crook playing him, especially if they beefed up the part and added Orell parts to him.

    I hope Wargs have a place on GoT ( aside from the brief Bran-Summer dreamquence ),
    there is something special and thought provoking yet a common thread through
    ASOIAF. How much is feasible for on screen interest and budget leaves me wondering
    though. At least readers get to experience GRRM’s mastery and descriptive prose .
    Benioff ,Weiss and the talented folks working with GoT have a beautiful challenge
    on their hands.

  335. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Handsome and ugly are just so relative these days…. People complain about some actors being too pretty that I find quirky or striking but hardly pretty. And yet others may find that same actor as beautiful….

    I think it is a losing battle to assume an actor is too ugly or too pretty for a role. Too tall or short though…… or too old or too young… well, again that is even a losing battle most times I bet! XD

    Well said my friend! A woman generally does not like the word “ugly” because it IS such a relative thing. Who’s ugly to you may be eye-candy to me, and vice versa. Whatevs. A woman would just love to see more civility all around in this world.

  336. andrea
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    I just saw, for the fourth time probably, Eastern Promises… I forgot Sumpter was there. Fantastic movie.

  337. robb17
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    i think we will definately be seeing more warging this season. that’s where the reeds come in. Jojen introduces and explains warging and greenseeing to Bran, and they have to show Jon is a warg. Non book readers have to be familiar with the warging thing before warging is seen in Jon’s storyline, which everyone knows will be pretty crucial to Jon’s arc.

  338. Arthur
    Posted July 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    robb17,

    Don’t forget Arya. She still has a bond with Nymeria…

  339. Lin Beifunk
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    If McGinley isn’t Edmure, I’ll eat my neeps.

  340. multimasking1
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 1:17 am | Permalink

    Michel:
    Nice to hear that Pyp is back (he was in Belfast)..but will be Greatjon back to ? I love the actor in Season 1..I think Season 3 will have all majors characters, but the only I’m a little worried is Belwas, nobody is talking of him :(

    From what I understand, most of the reason they didnt have Greatjon in season 2 was because they really didn’t have much for him to do (there wasn’t really much of him in Clash of Kings as is) and used S2 nire as an opportunity to introduce Roose Bolton. From what Ive heard there is a decent chance he’ll be back for season 3, I sure as hell hope so – I want to see him go Mike Tyson on that one Frey at the Red Wedding so badly you have no idea.

  341. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    multimasking1,

    I really hope this is true! Loved Greatjon in season 1.

    Damn Holiday over, going to be missing out on a lot of these discussions. Was alot of fun though.
    Pop in when I can WIC.net

  342. HedgeWizard
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:11 am | Permalink

    Pretty confident Mackenzie Crook will be playing Tom o’ Sevens

  343. Always Winter
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:58 am | Permalink

    First off, hi there everybody! Long time lurker, first time poster, huge fan of ASoIaF/GoT all around.

    I’m surprised no one has thought of Nathalie Emmanuel as Jhiqui. Sure, we saw the role filled for a split second in S1 by an extra, but there’s no reason the part couldn’t reappear at this stage in the game. Emmanuel even looks a bit like the actress who played Jhiqui in that first season scene. They essentially did this when Kovarro steps in for Rakharro: the former would’ve hypothetically been there the whole time during the events of Season 1, but only rises to prominence in Season 2 (and is thus cast) when we lose Rakharro. Same thing could happen for Jhiqui, plus she’s alive and well in the books.

    If not Jhiqui, I’m adding to the votes for an aged-up Missandei. Dany is down two handmaidens who were vital-if-not-subtle players in her self-development. Then let’s not forget the Dany/Irri affair; I think an older Missandei could takeover that storyline and HBO might be interested in keepin it as another nod to the LGBT community. That or they might want to “exploit” the “titillating” factor that would come with a love scene between two women (as we know they are wont to do with other aspects of female sexuality from time to time).

  344. Andrew
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:46 am | Permalink

    Always Winter,

    Welcome to the Site!

    On topic though, I’m pretty sure quite a few people have thrown around the idea of her taking over the role of Jhiqui in this thread. Personally, I don’t feel too strongly about it either way, but Irri and Doreah weren’t particularly major in the books, yet the show versions were great, so maybe they’ll do something really cool with her if it is indeed the case.

    Charlotte Hope looks (to me) a bit like Kaya Scodelario with softer features, so I deffinitely wouldn’t complain about her as Meera if the whole Myranda/Meera thing turns out to be true. I doubt that’s the case, though.

    Again, I’ve never seen any of these people in anything (Except Crook in Pirates, and a few Office clips), so I can only comment on looks haha. If they can’t act, they wouldn’t have gotten hired, so I’m not too worried.

  345. Erik
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:59 am | Permalink

    Carne,

    I love the possibility to show Arianne before her treason. We won’t be in her head or Arys’ head, so to speak it will be difficult for the audience to understand why suddenly we follow the dornish princess (the main Martell character to me), she needs an introduction…
    So in my mind she could watch the Joffrey’s Wedding (i hope it will be the finale episode of Season 3) with her uncle. (Ellaria Sand isn’t very important at this point, but she could be there too, it’s not a problem at all). If Arianne sees Joff dying, her plan to crown Myrcella (second in line of succession for the dornish law) looks like interesting, she is a plotter.
    After that during the 4th season, she could see her oncle dying during the trial by combat, and return to Dorne with his body and with the big revenge plan in her head. Maybe she ‘ll seduce Arys Oakheart during the last episodes of S4. We’ll see much more of her plan later for the S5 ?
    But I know D&D are used to introduce a character only when is necessary, so I don’t think they do their scenario like I would like to read it.

    And thanks to WiC to show my speculation about “Myranda” on their Tumblr :)

  346. msd
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Come on HBO, Burn Gorman or Andrew Scott for Ramsay!

    Burn Gorman is great. I’m so glad someone mentioned him because I’ve been a big fan since I saw him as Guppy in Bleak House. Sadly I think he’s a bit too old to play Ramsay now.

  347. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    msd,

    Love to have Bleak House people on the show *Lady Dedlock cough cough* we have Tulkinghorn already after all so why not the object of his “interest” as well?

  348. Ice&Fire
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    HedgeWizard,

    I completely forgot about this character. Nice one, he even looks like him a bit, based on this artwork.

    http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Tom_of_Sevenstreams

  349. Ed
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    tysnow:
    I give you all The Princess of Dorne.
    Oh! and scroll down at your own risk.

    Wow!

  350. Matt
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    I might be heading to Croatia in September… does anyone know if they will still be filming in Dubrovnik around then? I know filming in Ireland is starting this month… Please if anyone knows, I’d love to bump into Tyrion!

  351. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Bolger is in LA right now. Boo.

  352. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    The rumor or evidence of her Thrones’ casting was probably the weakest of all the rumors so far, but…. They don’t start filming for a week yet right? So she could make it back to a Thrones’ shoot still? Hmm…

    Not my first choice as Meera anyway, but I find it quite sad to see a rumor debunked! XD
    Is that odd? XD

  353. Arthur
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Maybe she’s up just for the fireworks?

  354. Hannah Sears
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    always thought of Mackenzie Crook as a dead ringer for Reek. Especially taking into consideration his similar appearance to Alfie Allen

  355. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    I told you not to get your hopes up .

  356. 3eyes
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Seems right to me. *dances a little jig of glee*

  357. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Bolger being in LA right now doesn’t really mean anything. The show shoots for the next several months, and not everyone is filming at the same time.

    That said, we have no evidence of her being on the show- that’s why it’s called speculation, based on rumors.
    Nothing wrong with getting hopes up- it’s part of the fun.

  358. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Not that big of a deal, its fun to speculate and twitter stalk.

    But like darque said, filming hasn’t started yet lol.

    Claudiu Gherganu:
    Superdeluxe,

    I told you not to get your hopes up .

  359. Alan
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Thoughts:

    - I think the Sarah Bolger thing has more legs than it seems to. She’s a perfect casting in terms of talent and looks, and her being in LA right now means little. I think she’s Meera and while people have been putting up Myranda as a change Meera name, I really can’t see it, unless they are altering the character so much they want a fresh break (it’s a Talisa situation).

    - I can buy Myranda as Myranda Royce. I could see her in King’s Landing, I suppose, but more likely in the Eyrie. Doesn’t Littlefinger leave early, obstensibly to woo Lysa literally and to the Lannister’s cause? I could see more scenes with Littlefinger, Lysa and having Myranda be another character there.

    - That said, I think the most likely is Myranda as a renamed Missandei is the most likely. Yes, the name is very Westerosi, but Missandei is very close to Melisandre (much too close for most TV programs) and aging up Missandei seems very likely to me as she’s going to be Dany’s confidant. Plus, Charlotte Hope definitely visually fits that role pretty well — not that I couldn’t see her as a Mya Stone/Myranda Royce mix (but not Myranda proper).

    - I’d love for them to introduce the Dornish early, but I simply doubt it. There’s already a lot of new characters. It would work better for the Dornish plotline but I bet they are a Season 4 new set of players.

    - I think there’s a better chance than most that Crook is Ramsay, if it indeed has been cast. Some of the parts suggested for him seem very small. It would not be unheard of, but it seems his rep would align much better with size of a Ramsay rather than something smaller.

  360. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Aaaaargh! Why do people think Crook would make a good Ramsay????

    (Sorry, I just love this character so bad & if he’s played by a man 20 years too old well….I’m gonna kill myself if he is, it would be the dumbest casting EVER imo…..)

    Rant over :)

  361. The Rabbit
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Matt,

    I ll try to digg a bit on that matter.
    But I guess it would be in Septemeber again, because of high touristic season in July and August.

  362. Langkard
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    TheFlayedLady:
    Aaaaargh! Why do people think Crook would make a good Ramsay????

    (Sorry, I just love this character so bad & if he’s played by a man 20 years too old well….I’m gonna kill myself if he is, it would be the dumbest casting EVER imo…..)

    Rant over :)

    I don’t think anyone is seriously saying that. I put it out there as a bit of a joke, since I was depressed about Westeros.org claiming they had information that he wasn’t going to play Vargo Hoat.

    I suspect that those saying he’ll be one of the Wildlings are correct, if he isn’t playing Vargo. But I’ll keep my fingers crossed that Elio and/or Linda are wrong and he will be in that role.

  363. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    TheFlayedLady,

    I have to agree with you . I have nothing against Crook as an actor but no way i’m gonna take seriously a 40 year old as Ramsay , especially being Roose’s son .

  364. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Thank you! Haha. I wasn’t ‘having a go’ at anyone, we’re all allowed our opinions, but that would be ridiculous!

    Langkard,

    I think Wildling too (hopefully) & I think he’d be a great Varamyr Sixskins.

  365. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    What of Nathalie Emmanuel? I can’t seem to find a place for her….
    The horse training throws me too.

    I do not think the Dornish will be introduced this year, so that rules out one option.

    Taena of Myr is an option, but we know Emmanuel will be in episode 3×06 and that would mean guests arrive for Joffrey’s wedding at the half way point of the season, I cannot see that happening.

    Then maybe she is a new handmaiden or replacing Jhiqui? Then I wonder why episode 3×06 and not earlier…..

    Missandei is an option too if they age her up a great deal. However, while I don’t assume 3×06 is Emmanuel’s only script, I do think it is likely the first time her role will appear. I would think Dany would encounter Missandei before that point. Unless D&D are really going to slow play Dany’s arc and only cover up to Yunkai…. If they do slow roll Dany’s arc that much perhaps Emmanuel will be Missandei…

    I guess I can maybe see Emmanuel as Arianne Martell if they throw in a midseason scene with Arys Oakheart and Myrcella as a reminder of Myrcella’s existance, a connection to impending weddings, and of course setting up Season 4.

  366. Langkard
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:

    Missandei is an option too if they age her up a great deal.However, while I don’t assume 3×06 is Emmanuel’s only script, I do think it is likely the first time her role will appear. I would think Dany would encounter Missandei before that point. Unless D&D are really going to slow play Dany’s arc and only cover up to Yunkai…. If they do slow roll Dany’s arc that much perhaps Emmanuel will be Missandei…

    I guess I can maybe see Emmanuel as Arianne Martell if they throw in a midseason scene with Arys Oakheart and Myrcella as a reminder of Myrcella’s existance, a connection to impending weddings, and of course setting up Season 4.

    These are the two options I see as most likely.

    Having a bit of Dorne this season makes sense because it was mentioned multiple times by Tyrion this season and the sending of Myrcella to Dorne was integral to several scenes with Cersei and Tyrion, Cersei and others and then, of course, the send off scene. D&D might not want that to slip the minds of viewers for 2 entire seasons.

    Aging Missandei up seems just as likely, because dealing with all of the child-sex issues and adult dialogue isn’t as necessary for a smaller part as it was for the much larger roles of the Stark children. They can rationalize aging her up because of that and thus not have to deal with those issues and a child actor in the less pivotal role of Missandei. Plus, they killed off all of Dany’s handmaidens. So an older Missandei fills that role as well.

  367. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    TheFlayedLady,

    I really hope Mackenzie Crook (if even cast) is Varamyr (or a combination Varamyr and Orell). I can see him as a Wildling clearly in my mind.

    Seeing Crook as Beric (too short), Ramsay (too old) or Hoat (ruled out by Westeros) is much harder for me. Although he does have the gauntness of Beric…..

    He would be about the right age for Mance maybe, but not at all how I imagined him (or how he is dscribed)…..

    I can easily see him as Tom O’Sevens, but that role is so small….

    I can see him as a Night’s Watch member faily easily too. If they double down on beyond the Wall scenes in Season 3 showing both Jon with Mance’s army, and then Castle Black with Sam and the rest I think they would need to have a new elder in the Watch.

    Maybe…
    Cotter Pyke (He has small, close-set eyes, a broken nose and a pox ravaged face. He has a widow’s peak and a sparse, rough beard. He is lean, hard and wiry) or Thoren Smallwood (sinewy with a weak chin hidden beneath a thin beard)? Another seafarer in his future? XD

    Hopefully he plays a wildling though!

  368. Brock Russell
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    I was thinking, what if Charlotte Hope as “Myranda” is Jeyne Poole. We still do not have a Jeyne Poole, and seeing how the situations coming up involving her are very important, it would be wise to introduce her now, seeing how those situations may start in season 4 or so. I guess I can see them changing her name, because the Poole’s are loyal to house Stark, and introducing a Poole now in King’s Landing would not make any sense. Plus Hope looks like she could be Sophie Turner’s age, and Sansa needs a friend her age.

    Let’s just hope they still eat lemony cakes together…

  369. Mormegil
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Alan: Plus, Charlotte Hope definitely visually fits that role pretty well

    She has a round flat face, dusky skin and eyes like molten gold

    How does Charlotte Hope fit this description pretty well?

  370. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Brock Russell,

    She really does have the look of a lady in waiting, part of Margery Tyrell’s court or Sansa’s as “Jeyne Poole”. And like you wrote, it makes some sense…..

    My first thought upon seeing her (not considering the name at all) was instantly Meera though.

  371. Macha
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Langkard: Having a bit of Dorne this season makes sense

    It might, however there are multiple reasons why this is highly unlikely at this point:
    - no mentions of the Martells in the official announcement that appeared in EW (and while they specified ‘a few others’, any Martell would be considered a role worth mentioning in full)
    - Aimee Richardson not returning
    - the introduction of a whole bunch of characters (Tullys, Reeds, Mance & wildlings, the Brotherhood, Daario, Selyse&Shireen, Ramsay etc)
    Let’s not forget they even pushed back Ramsay’s introduction, and no one was expecting that, so I seriously doubt they’ll introduce the Martells before their time, especially as this would most likely imply adding a whole new set, minor characters & extras, the whole thing.

    Langkard: I don’t think anyone is seriously saying that. I put it out there as a bit of a joke, since I was depressed about Westeros.org claiming they had information that he wasn’t going to play Vargo Hoat.

    Heeey, *I* was being serious about it! *ducks* :)
    I wouldn’t mind either way, honestly, as he wasn’t what I imagined Ramsay at all but if the rumours are true, and if he isn’t playing Vargo, then I’d really love to see him as Ramsay. To me he simply doesn’t look that old in comparison to Michael McElhatton. So I’m sticking to that, if only to provide a laugh here and there. God knows I always laughed at the Cillian Murphy/Tom Hardy suggestions, so I don’t mind. ;)

  372. The Rabbit
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Oddly enough, I am becoming more convinced Crook is Mance.
    Age fits. It is a bit bigger role than Tom, Varamyr and even Beric.
    The production suprised us couple of times allready (Tena, Dormer, even Allen at the very beginning), so it would not be a big surprise. And it could work.

  373. Macha
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit: I am becoming more convinced Crook is Mance.

    This would actually be quite a bold and ultimately friggin’ awesome move, so if it happens, I’d be just as glad.

  374. fuelpagan
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Brock Russell: I was thinking, what if Charlotte Hope as “Myranda” is Jeyne Poole. We still do not have a Jeyne Poole, and seeing how the situations coming up involving her are very important, it would be wise to introduce her now, seeing how those situations may start in season 4 or so. I guess I can see them changing her name, because the Poole’s are loyal to house Stark, and introducing a Poole now in King’s Landing would not make any sense. Plus Hope looks like she could be Sophie Turner’s age, and Sansa needs a friend her age. Let’s just hope they still eat lemony cakes together…

    I know many will groan when I say this…but I think that function of the story will be given to Ros.

  375. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    I have been wondering about it, but just could not accept it enough to write it on the screen! XD

    Personality wise I can see it fitting, age wise like you said, and Mance’s description of being a big-chested and broad shouldered man is off set by GRRM saying he is lean. Not many actors can portray lean better than Crook! XD

  376. Langkard
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    I am in the Nathalie Emmanuel as Missandei camp. Was just pointing out that there is some rationalization for Arianne Martell. Also, as for Aimee Richardson not returning, that isn’t really a factor. We have multiple scenes with Arianne in the books with Myrcella only being mentioned at first, before we actually see Myrcella.

    I have no problem with Crook in any role. I just really wanted him as Vargo Hoat. Wildlings makes sense and Ramsay even, too. Not so sure about Mance, but only because I would really want Mance to be able to sing, since that is so pivotal at a later point. I have no idea if Crook can sing at all. I’m open to anything, though! Mostly…

    Please be wrong at Westeros! Mackenzie Crook for Vargo Hoat!

    Oh, yeah… and

    Dennis Storhøi for Mance Rayder and Fionnula Flanagan for Olenna Tyrell

  377. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    I’m holding out for Fionnula Flanagan for Olenna Tyrell too!
    I think many actressses could do the role justice, but she is who I see.

    I think now that the pre-filming period of fittings and handing out of scripts is done….. we may have a slow casting rumor period until filming begins…. Sigh…..

  378. Shinyteapot
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    The more I look at that picture of Charlotte Hope, the more I think Roslin Frey (perhaps renamed). Though there are other roles she could fill, I think she’d fit that one very well. She’s young, but I think that works in her favour- Roslin is far more beautiful than anyone was expecting, making her young just exaggerates that. Of course her being one of Margaery’s cousins is equally, if not more likely. I doubt Meera would be renamed as I don’t think it’s necessary, but Ros/Roslin confusion is possible.

    Nathalie Emmanuel would make a great Arianne- while different to my mental image (I pictured the Martells darker) she’s without doubt got Arianne’s beauty. However I don’t think it is likely, as I doubt we’ll see the Martells introduced before S4. So I’d say she’s either a recast Jhiqui (or other Dothraki handmaiden) or older Missandei.

    Sarah Bolger is older than book-Meera but still distinctly possible, and could probably be made to look younger very easily. Based on looks she’d make a good Tyrell cousin, but that doesn’t mean she can’t be Meera instead.

    Mackenzie Crook- I think Mance. Not sure why, I just do. Though if Beric is recast, I can see him there too- if you’re going to recast, might as well go for a very altered appearance to make the point that something drastic has happened to him. He’d also make a good Varamyr, but it’s not that much of a role compared to the others.

    Philip McGinley- also a possible Beric. Could be Edmure but seems a bit young, though it’s possible the age difference between him and Cat will be made larger.

  379. fuelpagan
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Here is a video of Mackenzie singing. Warning NSFW. Not a bad singing voice. Might be better with an actual song.

  380. NOC
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Crook = Ramsay Bolton. He’s got a good look for it.

  381. Macha
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan,
    Hmm, not bad. Not bad at all. *strokes non-existent beard*

  382. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan:
    Here is a video of Mackenzie singing. Warning NSFW.Not a bad singing voice. Might be better with an actual song.

    You are right, his singing voice is not bad! A woman will add to the list of possible Crook roles…Mance Rayder. He is an average height so he could blend in with others as needed, and average looks, as Mance is described in the books, so it’s possible. Also, one would expect many of the wildlings to be slight of build due to the dearth of food sources in such a forbidding land (probably not much farming).

    That said, Crook could also be Tom O’Sevens as others have suspected, but the role would have to be expanded considerably from the books for such an experienced actor to be interested in that role…which is always possible since we don’t know what they have in mind.

    Also agree with those that have mentioned that Hope could very well be Jeyne Pool (or faux Arya) rather than Meera or a Tyrell cousin. She’d work in any of those roles IMO. This woman watched one of her clips online, a woman thinks that she can act and the camera likes her.

  383. Ren Snow
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    If Mackenzie isn’t playing Hoat then my money is one of the Betrayers… or a Frey… or Lord Beric since he’s supposed to look “gaunt”

  384. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan,

    If I had to guess right now, I’d say Crook is going to be Mance. He’d have to dye his hair darker and add some gray, but looks wise he is similar to how I envisioned Mance. The interesting part about Mance is that he isn’t described as being some big tall warrior. He is slender and of middling height.

  385. Dickon Manwoody
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Is it just me or does Philip McGinley have a rather strong resemblance to a certain Michael McElhatton?

  386. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    NOC:
    Crook = Ramsay Bolton.He’s got a good look for it.

    Have you read the books? :/

  387. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Dickon Manwoody:
    Is it just me or does Philip McGinley have a rather strong resemblance to a certain Michael McElhatton?

    Yes, that has been mentioned by others here on other threads, as well as this woman mentioned it too. It is a possibility he could be Ramsay.

  388. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I just can’t see Crook as Mance :/ I always imagined him more along the looks of Gudmundur Thorvaldsoon (who has also auditioned for the role) or possibly John Lynch.

  389. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    This is Mackenzie Crook…
    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02017/Mackenzie_crook2_b_2017611b.jpg

    Please tell me how he could play the Bastard son of Roose Bolton (who looks like this…)
    http://www.funbaz.com/members/mems/michaelmcelhatton/images/lg/jnsub-702.jpg

    …when they are about the same age!

  390. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    A woman thinks that it is silly to think that Crook could be Ramsay, who should be a younger man in his early 20s and not in his 40s. So please people, let’s stop the madness. With so many brilliant actors in their 20s available, it’s not probable.

  391. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    If we assume Philip McGinley is either Beric, Edmure or maybe even Ramsay, can we assume that actors about as well know will be cast for whichever of those roles he has not been cast?

    If that is the case the casting of a more well-known actor like Mackenzie Crook would imply a bigger role. What roles are out there that are in theory bigger than Beric, Edmure and Ramsay in this season?

    I went into the casting season thinking Thoros, Beric and Edmure would be the group with the second most face time of the roles for men (I excluded Hoat and Ramsay since they were not confirmed roles), and the only role with more face time would be Mance Rayder. I am beginning to think that by that logic Crook could be cast as Mance despite many of us never considering him as appropriate for the part….

    It’s most likely faulty logic I know since they could cast McGinley as Edmure and give a more well known actor the role of Beric or Ramsay etc…. However, I do think that the biggest new role of this season for a man to play would be Mance….

    Oh well, maybe it’s time to stop speculating about casting for now? XD
    At least until new info comes in… I’m guessing this time next week.

  392. TheFlayedLady
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    You are my angel :)

  393. Macha
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: So please people, let’s stop the madness.

    This made me chuckle because, in all fairness, there have probably been less than twenty comments on this thread really advocating for Crook as Ramsay, and the discussion has been fairly reasonable so far.

  394. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Macha: This made me chuckle because, in all fairness, there have probably been less than twenty comments on this thread really advocating for Crook as Ramsay, and the discussion has been fairly reasonable so far.

    A woman is exaggerating a little for humor, but there were also comments on another thread suggesting Crook might be Ramsay (if my recollection is correct) and it just seems a little silly due to his age being so close to McElhatton’s. Of course not everybody knows the ages, so there is that factor. It’s not madness REALLY as it’s all in good fun. Carry on.

  395. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Josef Altin tweeted that he never played pool with the cast members in Belfast, so that’s either a lie, the person who said it thought he saw him, or Mr.Altin is trying to steer us away from the truth ;)

  396. Obsidian
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    In regard to Ramsay’s age, he should be older than Robb and Jon, and considering the way they’ve aged those parts up, I think a early to mid 30′s look would be fine , without making “Roose” seem an unlikely parent. Roose is supposed to be someone whose age is hard to pin down, and it would be easy to work that into a script.

    He should appear to have a few years on Theon. ( But I still like Crook better for Tom..)

  397. Arthur
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    I just want to know;

    IS SARAH BOLGER MEERA OR NOT?!?!?

    Geez, I was going to watch the Tudors and everything. =[

  398. Michel
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Pyp is back ladys..

    “Josef Altin ‏@JosefAltin
    @MichelCVG yes i will be,thx for your support ;) ”

    An actor that i would love to see again is the actor who played Greatjon in Season 1..he was amazinga, any rumours of him in Season 3 ?

  399. dizzy_34
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Hmmm… I assumed Pyp was left at the wall so unless they just have him show up in the chaos aftermath of the fist they will be having Jon get back to the Wall by seasons end. Which makes sense I guess.

  400. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know, not for the lack of people trying to get her to respond on her FB and Twitter. She hasn’t made any kind of responses in regards to that.!

    Arthur:
    I just want to know;

    IS SARAH BOLGER MEERA OR NOT?!?!?

    Geez, I was going to watch the Tudors and everything.=[

  401. Langkard
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan:
    Here is a video of Mackenzie singing. Warning NSFW.Not a bad singing voice. Might be better with an actual song.

    Nice! Thanks for finding and posting that. I love WiC.net readers. There is always someone who can answer a question. That settles my concerns about Crook being able to sing. He’s not Bing Crosby, but he can carry a tune. Works for me.

  402. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Langkard, your comments about Storhøi has made me re-watch The 13th Warrior! Oh how good it is! The scene where they pick the 13 gives me goosebumps!

    And our Blackfish is number two! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciUd0f5Xjos (he could work on his Norwegian though…)

  403. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Did you see the tweet of hers saying she was in Belfast? Did anyone cap it?

    She has been in LA a lot the last few weeks. Not uncommon for an actress trying to get a role I guess! XD

    On the 14th for the Comedians Stand Up for Animals event and then the 16th she had some event to go to, and then at the play the other day…. Has she been flying back and forth from LA to Dublin to Belfast and back to LA? On June 3 she comments to someone “See you in LA” which makes me wonder if she has been in LA the whole time and was not in Belfast. Could it have been false information?

    If she was in Belfast and went right back to LA after it would certainly make that appearance in Belfast that much more intriguing…. It being the only tweet I have not seen posted anywhere does make me a bit skeptical as I have seen all the others personally or seen the caps of them……

  404. Kostas Discordian
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    David Michael Scott played Beric in first season , when Ned sends him to hunt Mountain and his men . Maybe they will not recast him.

  405. Arthur
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    I guess is it wasn’t true she’d deny it really fast right? And if it were true she probably has to keep quiet about it. So her silence is reassuring in that case?

  406. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Beric was on the list of characters they are casting for this season; we won’t see the same actor we saw in season 1.

  407. Impi
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    darquemode: She has been in LA a lot the last few weeks.

    With ComicCon coming up, she could be a surprise guest. :)

  408. Arthur
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Impi,

    Dude stop building our hopes up!

  409. Alan
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil:
    How does Charlotte Hope fit this description pretty well?

    Because I don’t care (and the casting folks obviously don’t care) about specifics like that? Because she looks young and could pass from another part of the world? She just kind of looks like someone from a place where they worship peace and chase butterflies.

    There’s not a single person that has been cast to that level of specificity. Aside from Tyrion and Brienne’s respective sizes, the feel of one’s looks has been much more important than anything specific.

  410. Alan
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu:
    TheFlayedLady,

    I have to agree with you . I have nothing against Crook as an actor but no way i’m gonna take seriously a 40 year old as Ramsay , especially being Roose’s son .

    Thing is, he doesn’t look 41. Now he doesn’t look in his 20s, but he could easily pass for 30. And Roose could be 50+.

    If he looked older, I’d agree.

    That said, I could see him playing a lot of roles. But it does seem a lot that have been bandied about have been lesser roles than I’d expect for him. Perhaps, he is a Sytr, Varamyr, Jarl, Orell mix and he’ll be a wildling that goes with Jon and Ygritte south. That could have some lines, etc. Or they could beef up Tom O Sevens, I suppose.

    I just expect his role to be more significant. Could be wrong.

  411. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Yup I saw the tweet, I wish I would have screen capped it. Nice sleuthing on your part, seems like she had some events in la? Here is hoping her going to Belfast was for work, she actually lives in Dublin I believe

    darquemode:
    Superdeluxe,

    Did you see the tweet of hers saying she was in Belfast? Did anyone cap it?

    She has been in LA a lot the last few weeks. Not uncommon for an actress trying to get a role I guess! XD

    On the 14th for the Comedians Stand Up for Animals event and then the 16th she had some event to go to, and then at the play the other day…. Has she been flying back and forth from LA to Dublin to Belfast and back to LA? On June 3 she comments to someone “See you in LA” which makes me wonder if she has been in LA the whole time and was not in Belfast. Could it have been false information?

    If she was in Belfast and went right back to LA after it would certainly make that appearance in Belfast that much more intriguing…. It being the only tweet I have not seen posted anywhere does make me a bit skeptical as I have seen all the others personally or seen the caps of them……

  412. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Impi,

    Ha!
    That would indeed be a great surprise on the fans!

    I’m trying to recall…. I don’t think we got any casting spoilers from Comic-Con last year did we?

  413. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Yes I think she does live in Dublin. There is another tweet about her finally being back in Dublin…

    Okay. I can believe a first hand account of a WiC regular saying they read the tweet more than some random guy online!XD
    That rumor still has the least corroborating evidence….. Being in Belfast is convenient coincidence without knowing more, but deleting the comment after… that is at least interesting if not suspicious.

  414. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    She has been pretty quiet on the matter, it appears that she only responds to people asking about her baking

    Arthur:
    Superdeluxe,

    I guess is it wasn’t true she’d deny it really fast right?And if it were true she probably has to keep quiet about it.So her silence is reassuring in that case?

  415. natty
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    browsing tumblr looking for clues when I came across this

    http://tamzin-merchant.tumblr.com/tagged/Game-of-Thrones

    I wonder why Tamzin Merchant didn’t want to do it so much.

    I blame you guys.

  416. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Also it appeared she was in la on the 30th (sunbathing and shabu shabu bar). Very next night at a foster the people concert at city walk la.

    Between the 20th and the 30th no tweets or anything

  417. Lex
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    natty:
    browsing tumblr looking for clues when I came across this

    http://tamzin-merchant.tumblr.com/tagged/Game-of-Thrones

    I wonder why Tamzin Merchant didn’t want to do it so much.

    I blame you guys.

    LOL, I wonder if that’s true. If so… bad call on her part!

  418. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    natty,

    She was cast as Daenerys for the original pilot that was mostly re-shot. I know they re-cast at least Illyrio and Catelyn Stark too, but not sure why.

    I wonder if she had issues with Daenerys’ nude scenes? Wasn’t she naked in The Tudors….. I don’t think I ever heard why she wanted out.

  419. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    I hope she at least read for the part!

  420. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else see the EW.com post that Clive Russell possibly landed the role of the Blackfish?

  421. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Bonnie Blue,

    And they list this site as the source ;)

  422. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:42 pm | Permalink

    Bonnie Blue,

    Yep there is an entire post for it 4 or 5 down from this one.

  423. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    darquemode
    Oops (haha) What do you guys think of that actor? I’m not familiar with him.

  424. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Bonnie Blue,

    From what I recall of his roles I have seen I liked him.
    A few others more familiar with him praised him a great deal more.

    He certainly looks the part! Especially if you go to the post and look at other pics posted in the thread.

  425. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink
  426. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink
  427. Alan
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker:
    I’d like to think actors are pretty strong, after all they chose a profession that puts them in the public eye all the time.

    If MacKenzie Crook is reading this, I just want to say that I love his acting work, I think he’s talented and hilarious, and his looks suits well the roles he has taken thus far.

    I don’t know about wildly successful actors, but I find most performers I know are incredibly self-conscious. Whether it’s because of the constant judgment or whether the positive reinforcement that they get more than other professions really drives them, most professional actors I’ve worked with tend to be pretty devastated by negative feedback.

  428. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I know now!!! sorry :) I try to read up before I comment about anything, but missed the ball on that one. You guys are too fast for me. I blame the heat + sangrias!

  429. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    The more sites dispersing GoT news the better I say!

    Westeros may break some stories, InsideTV’s James Hibberd some, I think I broke 1 or 2 on SpoilerTV, and of course WiC has broken more than a few! The more fan excitement, the more the fanbase can grow and that is all good to my ears!

    Now, if some of these other sites would just have NEW casting information I would be even happier! XD

  430. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I keep looking at Sean Harris’ agency page just waiting for “Sean is currently working on the third season of Game of Thrones”…sigh :(

    Weeks ago I e-mailed his agent but no reply :( Then I went the extra (maybe creepy) mile and sent him a message via Facebook. No reply there either. He must think I’m some crazy fan :P

  431. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Ha! XD
    I have yet to go so far as to e-mail agents, but it does not sound too stalker-y to me! Facebook… well I find the whole thing disturbing so I won’t comment on that! XD

    I had one actor and his agent contact me and thank me for suggesting him for the role of Mero! XD
    That was fun…

    Is Harris’s character on The Borgias dead ?
    I originally thought of Harris as Vargo Hoat, but Beric and well frankly, whoever he would be willing to play is okay by me!

  432. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Sean Harris’ character is alive and kicking in Borgias (as far as I’ve heard), and he is probably not leaving anytime soon. In a sort of cruel way I hope the show gets cancelled, just so Harris can join GoT >:)

    And I must say e-mailing agents is a great way to let them know about the show and characters! I did that with Hivju and he ended up auditioning. And as you did with Seager! Search for any of the names you’ve been listing + Game of Thrones and your casting speculation post is the first one that pops up!

    By the way, do you know if actors being in a show are allowed to join another show on a different network?

  433. Lex
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Emailing agents is how we got our Brienne.

  434. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    I think it is only a problem if there is a clause in their contract…. but I could be wrong.

    I know I have seen actors who are in one major network guest star for an episode or two on another major network (like CBS to ABC). I cannot recall any on a premium cable netowrk guest starring on a different premium network though (like Showtime to HBO)… Not off hand at least.

    That post has gotten like 40,000 hits now!
    It kind of makes me laugh because I originally was just doing it for fun and then decided others may like it since people like the speculation posts for the indivdual characters on here.

    I have started next year’s already somewaht…. I stopped though since it is counter-productive since we really do not know which ASoS new characters will appear in Season 3 yet. Once that is all but wrapped up I will start working on Season 4 and paying more attention as to who regulars here would like for the Martells and the Greyjoys and others assumed to be in Season 4.

    For some reason I find the online hunting for clues and connections to Nina Gold or HBO very entertaining… Even if 98% of the time we are all wrong! XD

  435. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Hi all!

    First-time poster- long-time lurker.

    Mackenzie Crook, because of his resume, would seem to be one I’d expect to be in line for a major role and not a comparatively minor one like Tom ‘O Sevenskins, which to me isn’t much more than a background character with a few lines here and there, especially the way books get condensed to TV.

    So yes, I can see how he’d be Mance.

    I figure this on 2 levels: For one, Crook probably occupies a place 2 levels down from the actors that can be called stars (Sean Bean, Peter Dinklage) who dominate the proceedings, and one level down from character actors that fans of film/TV can identify by more than one role (Mark Addy, Charles Dance), that grab the colorful secondary roles. He probably ends up in the space where the likes of Natalia Tena and Aiden Gillen belong – actors well known for one role in particular (Tonks, Tommy Carcetti from The Wire), that grab important roles, but on another level lower than the King Roberts/Tywins of the world.

    So for that reason, to see him as a smaller character doesn’t quite work. Varamyr is interesting, but he’s not likely to be major as a player in it at all; Vargo Hoat would have been about the right speed, honestly, given the colorful nature of that character, while Tom is too small a part, and I tend to agree with those who don’t see him as Beric, who is well-known for being handsome; Crook is decidedly not handsome.

    The second reason involves the first appearance of Mance, as described in Storm of Swords. Jon Snow is led to a tent, where he finds a big, white-bearded man eating messily, and a sinewy, massive bald man who looks like he could kill with his bare hands. But it’s all misdirection- this is Thormund Giantsbane and the Magnar of Thenn. Behind him is a man with a lute, singing the bawdy song of the Dornishman’s Wife. To quote from the book:

    The King-beyond-the-Wall looked nothing like a king, nor even much a wilding. He was of middling height, slender, sharp-faced, with shrewd brown eyes and long brown hair that had mostly gone to grey. There was no crown on his head, no gold rings on his arms, no jewels at his throat, nor even a gleam of silver. He wore wool and leather, and his only garment of note was his ragged black wool cloak, its long tears patched with faded red silk.

    The appearance is about right. The role is big enough. And his first appearance has the kind of misdirection that threw Jon Snow, the same way such misdirection in casting may throw a lot of us fans. The main question is whether Crook can project menace – though some episodes of The Office suggested he could be pretty loathsome as Gareth from time to time. So he wouldn’t be quite as intimidating as Charles Dance or something (well, who is?), but he could probably project a kind of nastiness needed to play Mance.

    Thanks! Look forward to lots of chatting!

  436. Megan D.
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Since HBO is fond of composites for large groups of characters, Crook might be a beefed up Frey antagonist who could take the places of several Freys during ASOS? If you give all the significant younger Frey action (treating with Cat and Robb, threatening Jeyne/Talisa, even killing Catelyn at the wedding) to one character, that could be a pretty large role.

  437. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    darquemode: For some reason I find the online hunting for clues and connections to Nina Gold or HBO very entertaining… Even if 98% of the time we are all wrong! XD

    I think the fascination for the casting is a testament to how wonderful George R.R. Martin’s characters are…seems like fans of this series get so attached to certain characters and get a particular image of them in their heads (that’s how it is with me, anyway!)
    It’s fun to have speculation while we are waiting for the next season. I have heard a lot of really great casting ideas on this site. It’s fun! :)

  438. Knurk
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    great first post. You definitely convinced me that IF Crook is on the show the role of Mance is the most likely. Wouldn’t have come up with it myself if you and others hadn’t suggested it.

  439. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad I’m not the only one that have contacted their respective agencies lol

  440. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Appreciate the kind props. Good to be here. :)

  441. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    I’m already warming up for season 4 ;) Going to e-mail the agents of every actor I’d like in the show. I’m a mad man!

  442. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    Welcome to the site!
    Great post….

    I ‘ve cone to the same conclusion in the last 24 hours…. I guess in some ways I consider Crook a character actor more than a well know actor like a James Purefoy , Ian McShane, Jason Isaacs, Rufus Sewell or other fan favorites…..

    Mostly because I never was a fan of The Office (UK or US version) and always looked at Crook as a supprting actor exclusively unlike the actors I mentioned that I could only see in larger roles becuase they have been stars of their own series.

    I think I underestimated his level of recognition… The truth of of it is that he may be a supporting role character actor, but he is a very, VERY well-known supporting actor! XD

  443. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    How fun would it be to see Mads Mikkelson as Euron Greyjoy and Lars as Victarion? XD
    Although I could see Mads as Either honestly….

    Who do you have in mind so far… or just formulating the plan of attack more than already of the list?

  444. Carne
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Yes, Mads Mikkelsen has been my pick as well!

    It’s past 4 AM here and I have to get up in 3 hours (damn you, casting speculation!), so good night :)

  445. Zack
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Alan: I don’t know about wildly successful actors, but I find most performers I know are incredibly self-conscious.Whether it’s because of the constant judgment or whether the positive reinforcement that they get more than other professions really drives them, most professional actors I’ve worked with tend to be pretty devastated by negative feedback.

    Indeed. They’re just people. Fans sometimes get the mistaken impression that actors cannot be shy or have self-esteem issues since what we may see of them on camera generally seems the polar opposite, but people have these traits in every other profession, and there isn’t any reason to expect actors to be any different.

    I mean, it’s true, to some extent…to be a successful actor is to endure probably hundreds of variations on the “We’re sorry, but we just have something else in mind for this character. You’re not the right fit for us.” type statements. After awhile your skin has to toughen to stay in the business. But to assume that they’ve all developed this ability to shrug off all harsh criticism is rather silly.

    I can totally imagine an actor trawling forums to get an idea of the public response to his latest appearance on TV or a movie, reading dozens of comments saying how good he was, but then finding one particularly nasty troll comment that makes him forget the positive responses. I’ve heard famous people say essentially that.

  446. Langkard
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 10:49 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    Nice analysis!

    Carne,

    No! No sleep for you. Get back to cranking out those emails to push for actors for the Season 4 casting! /cracks a whip

  447. darquemode
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Langkard,

    Ha! XD

    Where there’s a whip, there’s a way.
    Where there’s a whip, there’s a way.

    Wait…. wrong Fantasy Adventure saga!

  448. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Zack: Indeed. They’re just people. Fans sometimes get the mistaken impression that actors cannot be shy or have self-esteem issues since what we may see of them on camera generally seems the polar opposite, but people have these traits in every other profession, and there isn’t any reason to expect actors to be any different.

    I mean, it’s true, to some extent…to be a successful actor is to endure probably hundreds of variations on the “We’re sorry, but we just have something else in mind for this character. You’re not the right fit for us.” type statements. After awhile your skin has to toughen to stay in the business. But to assume that they’ve all developed this ability to shrug off all harsh criticism is rather silly.

    I can totally imagine an actor trawling forums to get an idea of the public response to his latest appearance on TV or a movie, reading dozens of comments saying how good he was, but then finding one particularly nasty troll comment that makes him forget the positive responses. I’ve heard famous people say essentially that.

    This was the reason a woman posted the plea for civility in posts regarding an actor’s appearance. It does not cost anything to be kind, and one can express one’s displeasure with an actor without being personally nasty toward them. There are any number of polite ways to say “that actor is not my taste, I’d prefer another” without being cruel. The world is cruel enough, can’t we make WiC.net a place of civility toward all? It was this woman’s impression that this is overall the case here, that this is a friendly place, which is why I started posting here. Let’s not be troll-ish.

  449. HedgeWizard
    Posted July 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm | Permalink

    I personally can not see Crook as being Mance Rayder. i think it is actually a ridiculous thought, especially when so many people wanted James Purefoy to play Mance. Two quite different actors. If Crook is not playing Vargo Hoat then he must be Tom O’ Sevens. Yes it is a small role in the books but you never know they could be expanding Tom of the Sevenstreams’ roll in the Tv Show.

    As for Crook being Beric Dondarrion, i guess it is possible since when we see him in ASOS he is described as a scarecrow of a man and bears all the wounds from his previous deaths. So Crook could possibly play that role.

  450. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    HedgeWizard:
    I personally can not see Crook as being Mance Rayder. i think it is actually a ridiculous thought, especially when so many people wanted James Purefoy to play Mance. Two quite different actors. If Crook is not playing Vargo Hoat then he must be Tom O’ Sevens. Yes it is a small role in the books but you never know they could be expanding Tom of the Sevenstreams’ roll in the Tv Show.

    As for Crook being Beric Dondarrion, i guess it is possible since when we see him in ASOS he is described as a scarecrow of a man and bears all the wounds from his previous deaths. So Crook could possibly play that role.

    Imagination is a fascinating thing. A woman can easily see Crook or any number of gifted yet different actors as Mance. Only time will tell. Wish HBO would tell us soon!

  451. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 1:24 am | Permalink

    HedgeWizard,

    That is because people have an obsession with James Purefoy that I simply don’t get. Crook is more how Mance is described than Purefoy. Purefoy would stand out in a tent of wildlings. If they cast some buff, handsome guy as Mance I will be disappointed.

  452. Alan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 1:57 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Imagination is a fascinating thing. A woman can easily see Crook or any number of gifted yet different actors as Mance. Only time will tell. Wish HBO would tell us soon!

    I think people tend to throw around comments like “ridiculous” pretty easily here.

    The vast majority of these casting threads are based on looks. In the end of the day, looks are not that important when the actor is excellent. Lena Headey looks nothing like Cersei is described; she was great this year. That’s just one example of many — most physical traits aren’t that important.

    The funniest thing about the comment that you responded to is that the poster after you is right: Mance, as described, is much better suited to be played by a less imposing person like Crook rather than someone who would stand out everywhere like James Purefoy.

  453. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    Alan: I think people tend to throw around comments like “ridiculous” pretty easily here.

    The vast majority of these casting threads are based on looks.In the end of the day, looks are not that important when the actor is excellent.Lena Headey looks nothing like Cersei is described; she was great this year.That’s just one example of many — most physical traits aren’t that important.

    The funniest thing about the comment that you responded to is that the poster after you is right:Mance, as described, is much better suited to be played by a less imposing person like Crook rather than someone who would stand out everywhere like James Purefoy.

    Exactly. A woman recalls a passage in the books where Mance tells of blending in with a crowned…Purefoy would always stand out.

  454. Django Djavos
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    Another “long-time lurker, first-time poster” here (seems to be quite a trend!)..

    Puzzled as to all the speculation regarding Ramsey Bolton casting, as the way I see it he won’t even feature until season 5 (if the book chronology is followed). He isn’t on the list of new characters mentioned by D&D, so although I’d like to see him early next season I think we may well be kept waiting…

    Personally, I’m most excited about Mance casting. My choice would be Henry Iain Cusack (aka Desmond from Lost) as he best fits the image that I had when reading. Plus, I just love that actor! However, I’m starting to warm to the idea of McKenzie Crook as the King Beyond the Wall. Bit of a left-field option, but he could make it work!
    Thoros of Myr is another one that I’m really looking forward to seeing portrayed on screen. Haven’t seen any comments regarding his casting so far, but another Mance candidate, Ian McShane, would be a great Thoros IMO (never going to happen tho..). Any other (more realistic) ideas?

  455. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    Django Djavos:
    Another “long-time lurker, first-time poster” here (seems to be quite a trend!)..

    Puzzled as to all the speculation regarding Ramsey Bolton casting, as the way I see it he won’t even feature until season 5 (if the book chronology is followed). He isn’t on the list of new characters mentioned by D&D, so although I’d like to see him early next seasonI think we may well be kept waiting…

    Personally, I’m most excited about Mance casting. My choice would be Henry Iain Cusack (aka Desmond from Lost) as he best fits the image that I had when reading. Plus, I just love that actor! However, I’m starting to warm to the idea of McKenzie Crook as the King Beyond the Wall. Bit of a left-field option, but he could make it work!
    Thoros of Myr is another one that I’m really looking forward to seeing portrayed on screen. Haven’t seen any comments regarding his casting so far, but another Mance candidate, Ian McShane, would be a great Thoros IMO (never going to happen tho..). Any other (more realistic) ideas?

    A woman welcomes you Django! McShane has been mentioned many times over the past months for several roles, wouldn’t be surprised if he were to show up at some point! His imdb page shows he’s working on a few things now though, we shall see. He has such a distinctive and authoritative voice, would love to see him in GoT!

  456. Ice&Fire
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 3:14 am | Permalink

    Django Djavos,

    About Ramsey. I’m pretty sure he’ll be in this season. He already been mentioned several times by Roose, leaving him out would make the audience forget about him and They are not gonna leave Theon out for 2 whole seasons, and if Theon shows up a couple of times so does Ramsey. Ramsey does have some stuff to do during season 3 torturing Theon, sending Robb his skin. Theon’s failed escape .

  457. Django Djavos
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:10 am | Permalink

    Ice&amp;Fire,

    Yeah, that’s a fair point. To be honest, I hope they do decide to keep Theon’s story going through next few seasons. The beauty of the TV show is that it can include “off-page” scenes like this. It’d be pretty horrific and disturbing but also very cool to see some Ramsey-Theon torture/dog chase action!

  458. Django Djavos
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:15 am | Permalink

    fuelpagan,

    Not so much groan, more amazed gawp… Ros (busty whore, mid-late 20s) as Jeyne Poole/fake Arya (waif-like teenaged girl). You’ve got to be kidding, right??

  459. John
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:08 am | Permalink

    Anyone else think that Christopher Eccleston would make a great addition to the GoT cast ? I have been a fan of his ever since i saw him with Ewan McGregor in Shallow Grave,plus from his IMDB page he appears to be free right now –

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001172/

  460. Macha
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:24 am | Permalink

    Django Djavos: Puzzled as to all the speculation regarding Ramsey Bolton casting

    Hello and welcome! Just wanted to add that the speculation started after a rumour hit the twittersphere saying that the casting for Ramsay is in progress. I can’t remember if it came from westeros.org or some other source, but it seemed to hold some weight at the time, plus – like Ice&Fire suggested – it seems extremely unlikely that they’ll keep Theon off-screen for two or three seasons, especially after all the positive feedback for how his storyline was handled in S2.

    John: Anyone else think that Christopher Eccleston would make a great addition to the GoT cast ?

    Oh same here. Man, I loved him in The Shadow Line, such a brilliant show. However, he’s kinda running out of characters to play in GoT. I remember he was a popular choice for Stannis back in the day. Some people have suggested him for one of the Greyjoys, but personally I can’t see it.

  461. Zack
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    I wouldn’t mind Purefoy on the show either, but he’s not Mance. Seriously, the guy is handsome enough that Jon could initially expect him to be Mance, quite easily. And that’s not really the type of role you cast somebody only to do the Charlize Theron in Monster thing. You just cast somebody….not uglier, per se. Crook’s not ugly. He’s very much got an everyman look to him, though, and that’s Mance. His introduction makes it clear: people follow him because his personality rises above his ‘common’ outer look. I’m interested to see Crook pull it off.

    I’m not quite sure what I’d cast Purefoy for, though. A lot of people have suggested the Red Viper but I always imagined Dorne would be comparable to our Middle East in both its look and inhabitants.

  462. Zack
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    LOL, you’ve got a good point. It’s a fine line you’re asking us to walk, though, and one doesn’t have to be a troll to say something that could be hurtful.

    You got my train of thought going like, “Well, what about when they’re casting for a character described as ugly?”

    It must suck to be an actor whose name is consistently brought up in those fan casting discussions. Maybe they get used to it. Mickey Rourke knows what he looks like, and picks his roles accordingly.

    But what about we fans? How can we talk about our ideal choices for ‘ugly’ characters without coming off as horrible people?

  463. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    So with all of these ‘leaks’ happening, notice how HBO has not officially announced any casting, even though filming starts on July 9th? Now only 6 days away? I think the thought is to introduce these folks at Comic Con maybe?

  464. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Hey there! Welcome!

    I really like Henry Ian Cusick as well, but I believe he has just started filming for a movie role I believe.

    Django Djavos:
    Another “long-time lurker, first-time poster” here (seems to be quite a trend!)..

    Personally, I’m most excited about Mance casting. My choice would be Henry Iain Cusack (aka Desmond from Lost) as he best fits the image that I had when reading. Plus, I just love that actor! However, I’m starting to warm to the idea of McKenzie Crook as the King Beyond the Wall. Bit of a left-field option, but he could make it work!

  465. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    That would be great. I’m hoping that’s the plan, that’s why I’m not feeling too impatient about official confirmations yet. If we don’t get anything out of Comic-Con, I’ll be annoyed.
    With filming starting though, maybe we’ll hear more rumblings on Twitter…

  466. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    He has, but it’s a small independent movie, not a long-term filming. And last year, they didn’t shoot in Iceland until the fall. So he’s not out of the realm of possibility yet.

  467. Vanderhook
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe: Hey there! Welcome!I really like Henry Ian Cusick as well, but I believe he has just started filming for a movie role I believe.

    I’ve been hoping that Henry Ian Cusick would be on GoT for awhile now.. I was championing him as Davos last year.

  468. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Django Djavos,

    Welcome to the site!

    I am intrigued by Thoros too.
    I assume that they will cast the lean and grey-haired Thoros of the middle books since they are casting the gaunt Beric according to Westeros.

    I originally wanted Ciaran Hinds… he has the loose skin thing of a man that has lost weight and aged! XD Plus he just rocks and would bring the right attitude to the role…. Then maybe someone like Matthew Macfadyen, but I think he may be too high profile too….

    I would love to see Peter Mullan, but Nicholas Farrell or Tim McInnnerny would be interesting.

  469. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I was going to post this if you did not! XD
    Since it was your news though I figured I’d wait and see if you were around…. :)

  470. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Very Nice,

    I forgot about the fact that folks are filming at different times of the filming process :)

    Ours is the Fury:
    Superdeluxe,

    He has, but it’s a small independent movie, not a long-term filming. And last year, they didn’t shoot in Iceland until the fall. So he’s not out of the realm of possibility yet.

  471. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    So is this the off-season for some Game of Throne fans? Go Sleuthing for casting clues? Game of Thrones is a year round operation that is for sure :)

    Ours is the Fury:
    Superdeluxe,

    That would be great. I’m hoping that’s the plan, that’s why I’m not feeling too impatient about official confirmations yet. If we don’t get anything out of Comic-Con, I’ll be annoyed.
    With filming starting though, maybe we’ll hear more rumblings on Twitter…

  472. Stephen
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Someone above questioned Martells in S3 cos of set location etc. aren’t they back in Morocco for this season?

  473. LordStarkington
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Stephen:
    Someone above questioned Martells in S3 cos of set location etc. aren’t they back in Morocco for this season?

    For Dany/Slavers’ Bay would be my guess.

  474. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    LordStarkington,

    I think it will be for Dany’s locations too, but it certainly could work for Dorne…

  475. fuelpagan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Django Djavos: fuelpagan, Not so much groan, more amazed gawp… Ros (busty whore, mid-late 20s) as Jeyne Poole/fake Arya (waif-like teenaged girl). You’ve got to be kidding, right??

    I’m just saying you can’t count out the possibility.
    Theon wasn’t that close to either Arya or Jeyne Poole and he was able to spot pretty quickly it was a fake. I doubt anyone who knew the girls in Winterfell was fooled the moment they saw Jeyne. It’s more for those outside Winterfell to think it is Arya. The Bolton’s know she is a fake and don’t care. Heck, Jeyne Poole acts like a proper Lady and has flowered, anyone who knew Arya knows Arya never acted like a proper Lady. Taking all this into consideration, I don’t see the look of who is fake Arya all that important. It reinforces the fact the Bolton’s don’t care and her identity rests solely on the word of Lord Tywin. So it basically comes down to “I know she is fake, You know she is fake. But do you have the balls to actually raise the issue?” Ned was able to squash talk about the rumors of Jon’s mother pretty quick. With crazy Ramsay, no one is going to say a word! Plus it gives more reason to why Theon would risk saving her putting his own neck on the line.

    They may introduce a new character for this, but I don’t think it is necessary.

  476. Alan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    John:
    Anyone else think that Christopher Eccleston would make a great addition to the GoT cast ? I have been a fan of his ever since i saw him with Ewan McGregor in Shallow Grave,plus from his IMDB page he appears to be free right now –

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001172/

    Doesn’t Eccleston have a preference / reputation for not wanting to commit to anything for any extended period of time? He’s come up before and I think one of the commentators put together some links highlighting that — and focusing on him bailing from Dr. Who.

    He’s said a bunch of different reasons for leaving Dr. Who — from fear of typecasting to the environment on the set to exhaustion. Some of those might preclude him wanting to do Thrones — the pace/exhaustion and typecasting may apply, for example.

    Some of those issues may preclude Thrones wanting to cast him for fear he would leave early and they’d need to recast a multiseason role. Gregor was nothing compared to if you had to recast Mance.

  477. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    I was watching The Hollow Crown: Richard II and a few cast members stuck out to me as possible Thrones characters.

    Tom Hughes as Ramsay maybe. He has the creepy feeling to him and the light blue eyes with dark hair, pale skin and the right age. From what I’ve seen of him he has the acting chops for the role.
    pic1 pic2 pic3

    Samuel Roukin as Beric maybe. He has the height at 6’3″, the red hair and the thin build. Plus he is about the right age and looks relatively similar to the extra in Season 1 that played Beric.
    pic1 pic2 pic3

    Ferdinand Kingsley (Ben Kingley’s son) as Daario maybe. I couldn’t get as good a cap of him, but he has an interesting look that fits Daario well.
    pic1 pic2 pic3

    It reinforced my thought of Tom Goodman-Hill as Edmure too. He just screams Edmure to me I guess. The eyes, the hair… and a good actor to boot.
    Pic1

    Of course David Morrissey in a few roles, but perhaps too high profile an actor.

  478. Alan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Django Djavos,

    Welcome to the site!

    I am intrigued by Thoros too.
    I assume that they will cast the lean and grey-haired Thoros of the middle books since they are casting the gaunt Beric according to Westeros.

    I originally wanted Ciaran Hinds… he has the loose skin thing of a man that has lost weight and aged! XD Plus he just rocks and would bring the right attitude to the role…. Then maybe someone like Matthew Macfadyen, but I think he may be too high profile too….

    I would love to see Peter Mullan, but Nicholas Farrell or Tim McInnnerny would be interesting.

    Ciaran Hinds is 59 and looks it in Hollywood terms, so I’d be surprised from that perspective. The extra they cast was much younger and while that wouldn’t necessarily stop them, Hinds seems much more likely to be a Doran Martell or Mace Tyrell or Randall Tarly rather than Beric.

    Not that I’d complain, since he’s a great actor. I do wonder about his ability to execute the physical acting required by Beric. They could fake it with a double, though, I suppose.

  479. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    Oh sorry if I was confusing…. I agree with you.

    I meant because Westeros has said tabout how they are casting Beric hat I can see Hinds as the middle books version of Thoros that is weathered, thin and greyed…. Not as Beric.

    I do wonder about the physical skills required for certain roles…. Which actors have sword training etc… It’s hard to know sometimes unless you have seen them do it in other roles. I agree Hinds may not be up to swordplay , but at least he would not need to battle the Hound if he was Thoros! XD

  480. Kurgana
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    HedgeWizard: I personally can not see Crook as being Mance Rayder. i think it is actually a ridiculous thought, especially when so many people wanted James Purefoy to play Mance.

    The ridiculous part is considering Purefoy for Mance, whose defining quality is being unkingly looking. Mance’s charisma comes from within, is opposed to his petty looks. Not to mention his ability to blend in, travel in disguise. Casting such an imposing guy as Purefoy simply misses the point of the character, no matter how good the part is played.

    My dream casting for Mance is Robert Carlyle (perfect looks, right age, huge charisma), but as that’s impossible Mackenzie Crook seems a good choice, though he’s slightly too young for the part imho.

  481. Stephen
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    Ecclestone didn’t bail on Dr Who as such. He was only ever signed for one season. As such, he might be up for a one season role in GoT or even a longer one that doesn’t tie him down – a few eps across a couple of seasons type of thing.

  482. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Kurgana,

    I have seen Purefoy play subdued and average looking in a few roles so I differ in opinion I guess. I think it is Purefoy’s attitude and swagger (the dashing smile and the cocky glare in his eyes) that can make him recognizable and that can be changed easily. It is acting afterall…

    Plus in ADwD Mance is described as “bigger than before, broader in the chest [than Rattleshirt] and shoulders, long-legged and lean..” when Melisandre drops her glamour on him. So he is not at all small like either Crook or Carlyle who both would be more Rattleshirt’s size. Mance would be have more of a swimmer’s build in my mind, lean but wide shouldered. Somewhat like Eccleston I guess.

    Oh well, regardless of any of that I can see both Carlyle and Crook (as well as Purefoy, Eccleston or a number of others) as Mance I guess. I just dont think his stature is at all important to his character.

    His personality is more what sets him apart to me. He had to be charismatic and smart enough to become King Beyond the Wall in my mind. Or for that matter to be a succesful bard who entertained people. I always took Mance as shrewd, confident and charming when he wants to be, but able to blend in when he wants too by toning down his charms..

  483. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Zack:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    LOL, you’ve got a good point. It’s a fine line you’re asking us to walk, though, and one doesn’t have to be a troll to say something that could be hurtful.

    You got my train of thought going like, “Well, what about when they’re casting for a character described as ugly?”

    It must suck to be an actor whose name is consistently brought up in those fan casting discussions. Maybe they get used to it. Mickey Rourke knows what he looks like, and picks his roles accordingly.

    But what about we fans? How can we talk about our ideal choices for ‘ugly’ characters without coming off as horrible people?

    A woman understands your confusion. True, even in the books some characters are described in less than flattering ways. However, these are book characters that have no true feelings. If we would keep in mind that we are talking about REAL HUMAN BEINGS when we are talking about the ACTORS, perhaps we would avoid making potentially hurtful comments.

    It’s one thing to say that a character is described as ugly, OK, fair to say that. BUT, when you call an ACTOR ugly, in this woman’t opinion you are crossing the line into a hurtful and disrespectful place which is IMO a troll-ish thing to do. I did not call anybody a troll, but asked to avoid the poisonous language often used by trolls.

    The moderation policy of this site has only 3 rules:
    1) No personal attacks.
    
2) No trolling or spamming.

    3) No overly offensive, obscene or vulgar posts.

    These rules are meant to encourage civility amongst commenters here, but it is hard to believe that personal attacks on an actor would be considered acceptable. Rather than report somebody’s thread as a personal attack, this woman felt it would be better to post a general plea for civil language while talking about the actors.

    One reason it takes a very brave person to be an actor is that they are already laying themselves bare (sometimes literally) in order to tell the story and inhabit another character’s world for the entertainment of others. A woman has friends that are actors and knows this. It is frightening to many to expose their innermost feelings in that way, and it is this woman’s opinion that we should discuss the actors in the most respectful language possible if we are true fans of the show and the performing arts in general. I’m not saying don’t express that you didn’t like a certain performance, or a dress, or a line…but when you call a person “ugly,” you are being unnecessarily hurtful and it could be considered a personal attack. Would you say that to the person’s face?

    There are a million ways to say a person is more of a “character” than a “leading man,” and shouldn’t that be sufficient? Do we really want to be hurtful on a fan site? We know production staff read this site (Cogman has even posted here), so it’s possible actors do too. That is the thing a woman would like posters to keep in mind before posting something of a descriptive and potentially hurtful nature. Actors have feelings. Do you want them looking out at the crowd at fan conventions and thinking “I wonder if the guy who called me ugly on WiC.net is here?”

    A woman encourages posters to think twice before calling a person “ugly” or “fat” or any of those potentially hurtful descriptors. If you cannot think of a kinder way of expressing yourself than using hurtful words, there are free online thesauruses available to help you choose words well and wisely. Read film and television reviews and observe how “character actors” are described without cruelty. It IS possible to talk about actors without being hurtful.

    DIsclaimer: this post is the opinion of this woman, and not official WiC.net.

  484. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Kurgana,

    I have seen Purefoy play subdued and average looking in a few roles so I differ in opinion I guess. I think it is Purefoy’s attitude and swagger (the dashing smile and the cocky glare in his eyes) that can make him recognizable and that can be changed easily. It is acting afterall…

    Plus in ADwD Mance is described as “bigger than before, broader in the chest [than Rattleshirt] and shoulders, long-legged and lean..” when Melisandre drops her glamour on him. So he is not at all small like either Crook or Carlyle who both would be more Rattleshirt’s size. Mance would be have more of a swimmer’s build in my mind, lean but wide shouldered. Somewhat like Eccleston I guess.

    Oh well, regardless of any of that I can see both Carlyle and Crook (as well as Purefoy, Eccleston or a number of others) as Mance I guess. I just dont think his stature is at all important to his character.

    His personality is more what sets him apart to me.He had to be charismatic and smart enough to become King Beyond the Wall in my mind. Or for that matter to be a succesful bard who entertained people. I always took Mance as shrewd, confident and charming when he wants to be, but able to blend in when he wants too by toning down his charms..

    A woman agrees with you that Crook would be more apropos as the “average” guy as Mance than Purefoy. It is my observation that it’s hard to “blend in” with a crowd when you’re 6′ 2″ as Purefoy is, unless the crowd average height is that tall too! A woman once stood on an elevator with 6 or 7 NBA players and felt quite short even in her evening high-heels (which would have brought total height to almost 6′). Purefoy would have blended in there.

  485. Alan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Stephen:
    Ecclestone didn’t bail on Dr Who as such. He was only ever signed for one season. As such, he might be up for a one season role in GoT or even a longer one that doesn’t tie him down – a few eps across a couple of seasons type of thing.

    The break was not amenable, from all accounts. He may have only been signed for one season, but he’s given several reasons for leaving and the makers of the show have commented back a bit as well.

    I’m not saying it’s a dealbreaker, but whatever caused him to walk away from a pretty nice role for some reason. I could see him being skittish committing to a long term role (like Mance would be) if that was his issue and I could see him not wanting to do an intense shooting schedule if that was his issue and I could see HBO not wanting to deal with a potential attitude issue, even if they don’t know if it is true.

  486. Macha
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,
    I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. There are so many ways in which one can talk about an actor’s (or anyone else for that matter) looks without using certain words which we may find hurtful as well, if applied to us. It has nothing to do with how thick skinned that person is or should be – if I can help it, why shouldn’t I?

    Off-topic, just to lighten the mood a bit.
    As it’s been a slow news day, I took the time to re-watch a film I’ve always considered a little gem, despite it’s not so good reviews, which is The Actors (2003, starring Michael Caine and Dylan Moran), and surprise, surprise! It also features Lena Headey and Michael McElhatton, something that slipped unnoticed the first time I’ve watched it, as they were not on my ‘radar’. If you’re in the mood for a few laughs, I highly recommend it, Michael McElhatton’s part alone is fantastic. Who knew he could do comedy so well?

  487. Zack
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: There are a million ways to say a person is more of a “character” than a “leading man,”

    I love this :) Your wisdom is always appreciated.

    Similarly, when I’m in a discussion, I always try to phrase even performances I don’t like in terms of the character rather than the actor. Because they’re not in a vacuum, are they? They’re one piece in a puzzle, given a script, a story, told where to stand and what to say. To say you’re not wild about a performance is to recognize that the reason for your dissatisfaction is perhaps a mix of all of these factors and more, rather than perhaps unfairly heaping scorn on one target.

    But this isn’t to say that I don’t believe that some actors might perhaps be in the wrong profession. Even then, a terrible actor might be a really nice person trying his/her best.

  488. Kurgana
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I am not denying Purefoy’s acting talents (I actually like the guy and would like to see him on the show, ie. as Edmure Tully), but no acting can make a classically handsome, well over 6 feet tall guy look like a slight, insignificant one. Makeup, costume and movie tricks can, with enough makeup Mance can be played by Angelina Jolie, but what’s the point?

    Yes, Mance is bigger and broader than Rattleshirt, but does not make him big or broad, it just makes Rattleshirt exceptionally small, and the size comparison between the two is completely unimportant.
    In his first scene Mance is described as “middling height and slender”, it’s not a swimmer’s build. And Mance’s stature is important in that scene, it’s the looks that make Jon discard him as the King, not charms or lack thereof. What’s even more important is that the sentiment is fully understandable – you expect a leader of a wildling horde to wrestle for power, to be the strongest, toughest, most skilled fighter, along the lines of a Dothraki Khal’s widest and barest chest and longest ponytail. Contrast between such expectations and Mance’s unwarriorlike looks emphasize the nature of his leadership. This kind of portrayal is important onscreen, especially, when time is so limited.

  489. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Macha:
    Mrs. H’ghar,
    I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. There are so many ways in which one can talk about an actor’s (or anyone else for that matter) looks without using certain words which we may find hurtful as well, if applied to us. It has nothing to do with how thick skinned that person is or should be – if I can help it, why shouldn’t I?

    Off-topic, just to lighten the mood a bit.
    As it’s been a slow news day, I took the time to re-watch a film I’ve always considered a little gem, despite it’s not so good reviews, which is The Actors (2003, starring Michael Caine and Dylan Moran),and surprise, surprise! It also featuresLena Headey and Michael McElhatton, something that slipped unnoticed the first time I’ve watched it, as they were not on my ‘radar’. If you’re in the mood for a few laughs, I highly recommend it, Michael McElhatton’s part alone is fantastic. Who knew he could do comedy so well?

    A woman thanks you for your comments AND the suggestion of The Actors movie, as it’s always interesting to go back and watch previous performances of an actor who’s just caught your attention. One can really appreciate the range of a great actor when seeing them in different roles.

    As a woman was clicking around Purefoy’s imdb, noticed that he was in a movie WITH Crook, called “Ironclad” from 2011, also with Paul Giamatti (as King John 13th century England). Haven’t seen it yet, but will look into that one also (perhaps on Netflix by now). Has anybody here seen that one?

  490. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Huh, I didn’t know Purefoy was 6’2″!
    He never comes off as overly tall to me since he is well proportioned unlike some taller actors (or people in general). He would stand out more so at that height probably, although it does seem like there are quite a few characters well over 6-feet in Westeros though.

    I know “average” height was well under 6-feet tall back in the Middle Ages, but I look at 6-feet tall as average (really 5′-9″ to 6′-1″) in Minnesota and in Westeros I guess (maybe incorrectly). Some nationalities of course are taller or shorter, but the average height of non-Latino white men in Minnesota is just under 6-feet tall with the overall average height being just over 5′-10″.

    I think I grew up in a tall area though (a lot of Germans and Scandinavians). I had more male classmates over 6′-2″ than under 5′-8″. I was considered on the short side at 5′-11″! XD

  491. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,
    Re: Ironclad:
    Entertaining. Could have been amazing. But it’s still worth the watch. Also…Charles Dance!

  492. Kurgana
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: There are a million ways to say a person is more of a “character” than a “leading man,” and shouldn’t that be sufficient?

    The “leading men” are of divine beauty, while “character” ones are usually average at worst, as even “ugly” actors still look better than most of the “normal people”.

    I usually find “character” actors so much more attractive than the “leading men”. The latter are usually typically handsome super-males, whose looks I can appreciate in theory (wild chest – checked, chiselled jaw – checked, symmetry – checked, …), but I do not really feel the attraction. The “character” ones on the other hand may fail the check list here and there, but appeal to me so much more with their imperfections.
    Ugliness also lies in the eye of the beholder.

  493. Macha
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Has anybody here seen that one?

    I’ve also seen it, however I cannot say I’d recommend it. A brilliant cast trying to make the most out of a not-so-good script/direction and a low budget. From what I could tell, their aim was drawing viewers in with action and gore depiction, but I personally felt it wasn’t enough. I actually remember watching it and appreciating Neil Marshall even more for his work on Centurion. But, as I said, a wonderful cast, so you could give it a go for that alone.

  494. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Kurgana: The “leading men” are of divine beauty, while “character” ones are usually average at worst, as even “ugly” actors still look better than most of the “normal people”.

    I usually find “character” actors so much more attractive than the “leading men”. The latter are usually typically handsome super-males, whose looks I can appreciate in theory (wild chest – checked, chiselled jaw – checked, symmetry – checked,…), but I do not really feel the attraction. The “character” ones on the other hand may fail the check list here and there, but appeal to me so much more with their imperfections.
    Ugliness also lies in the eye of the beholder.

    A woman is on the same page as you in some ways and can appreciate a man with more of a character look if his personality is also appealing. A woman also appreciates the leading man type for different reasons, as each person is unique and can be appreciated for their own merits whatever they may be. It’s all relative. If we all were attracted to the same person/type, that would be a problem!

  495. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Kurgana,

    Remember though that Jon thought Mance wasn’t the King Beyond the Wall because of the bigger-than-life Tormund Giantsbane being his typical loud and huge self next to Mance. I personally never took it as Mance was smaller than most and therefore did not get noticed.

    In fact I would say smaller people would get noticed as much as tall, just like they do now. They just don’t stick out above the crowd, but in a room I notice the short people as much as the tall. I think average sized people have the easiest time going unnoticed and that’s why I always thought of Mance as average in height (just under 6-feet tall).

    I also never thought of the King Beyond the Wall as overpoweringly huge I guess. I took it as more simply a man with the ability to unite all the Wildlings, not dominate them. To me that requires guile and charm. Which Purefoy has in spades or at least portrays very well!!

    Purefoy being 6′-2″ certainly puts him above average , but I always thought of him as more 6-feet so I was wrong in that…

    As for his looks I still say it is his smile and personality that make him a leading man and not just his overall looks…. which I honestly do not consider that much out of the realm of average I guess. However I admittedly have a wide range of “Average” and not many men or women stick out as beautiful or ugly to me. I have always thought the way a person holds themselves is what makes them hot or attractive. When a hot personality shows through it makes an average looking (even an ugly person) person hot.

    I guess I will just accept that my view on the appearance of humanity is different than most! XD

  496. Kurgana
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I know “average” height was well under 6-feet tall back in the Middle Ages, but I look at 6-feet tall as average (really 5′-9″ to 6′-1″) in Minnesota and in Westeros I guess (maybe incorrectly).

    Average height of a man above 40 years old in UK (as we are talking about British actors here) is 5′ 9″, which – coincidentally – is exactly what Mackenzie Crook stands at (according to imdb at least). ;)

  497. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Kurgana,

    My views are skewed on height obviously.
    To me anything under 5′-10″ is short and a man is not “tall” unless he is taller than 6′-2″ basically. Even if I know the average male height is just under 5′-10″ in the US overall.

    His official CV has Mackenzie Crook listed at 5′-8″.
    http://www.lisathomasmanagement.com/mackenzie-crook/

  498. Macha
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Have you guys heard anything about Thoros of Myr being cast? Cause I just stumbled upon this over at Westeros. It doesn’t seem to hold a lot of ground so far, but I figured that if someone can add anything to it or debunk it completely, it’s our detectives here. ;)

  499. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I’m on that page also! XD
    I often find what most many people consider “flaws” to be attractive traits if the person owns them and is comfortable in themselves.

    I find many of the traditional beauties as average, but quite boring.

  500. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Thoros is one of the named roles as being cast! :)
    Along with Beric, Edmure, Tormund, Mance, Daario, Jojen and Meera, Selyse, and the Queen of Thorns, as of now officially uncast.

    The list comes from EW and was confirmed to incomplete. So more on top of those will be cast…. I assume quite a few more.

  501. Andrew
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Just saw that Grand Prize winner from the HBO win a crown contest is selling Roberts Crown on ebay.

  502. Macha
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Yeah I know about the part, I wasn’t being precise, sorry, I meant the actor mentioned in that thread.
    I should have copied the whole thing, here it is:

    “There’s a rumor going around on tumblr that Asim Ahmad will be playing Thoros of Myr, a claim seemingly corroborated by a recent tweet from Asim (though the context is missing, it is reasonable to assume what it may have been).

    Asim Ahmad’s IMBD: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3606527/
    The ‘rumor’: http://eternal0aranel.tumblr.com/post/26434603378/thoros-of-myr-cast
    The ‘evidence’:http://twitter.com/asimaahmad/status/220103162240053248

    source: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/69746-thoros-of-myr-has-been-cast-maybe/

  503. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Macha:
    Have you guys heard anything about Thoros of Myr being cast? Cause I just stumbled upon this over at Westeros. It doesn’t seem to hold a lot of ground so far, but I figured that if someone can add anything to it or debunk it completely, it’s our detectives here. ;)

    A woman is not buying it, this seems as if it could have been totally imagined as a prank. It’s all “a friend of a friend,” not much official connection here. A woman is waiting for more details before buying this gossip item.

  504. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Ooops, sorry!
    Was trying to be helpful ….
    I don’t go to Westeros often… the site layout and color scheme bother me! Petty I know.

    I have not heard the rumor though….

    Interesting…
    HE looks quite a bit like how I pictured Thoros back when he drank with Robert…. if he shaved his head that is.

    It seems like an odd casting to me… an actor with no credited roles from San Diego cast as one of the meaiter roles new to Season 3?

    I guess he currently lives in England and has stunt experience….

    Possible I suppose…. More to hunt for! XD

  505. Macha
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Have I read correctly, they mentioned 13 episodes? LOL.

    darquemode,
    I edited my comment above with the info.

  506. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Interesting! I’ll poke around a bit and add it to the spec post. Thanks. :)

  507. Zack
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: A woman is on the same page as you in some ways and can appreciate a man with more of a character look if his personality is also appealing. A woman also appreciates the leading man type for different reasons, as each person is unique and can be appreciated for their own merits whatever they may be. It’s all relative. If we all were attracted to the same person/type, that would be a problem!

    We always remember these character actors. One that comes to mind for me always is Steve Buscemi. He’s not going to win any awards for world’s sexiest person, but he has such striking features that I’ve seen not a few women mention that they find him appealing. I think it’s probably better in a lot of ways to stand out with a unique face like that than to be just another samey Hollywood handsome/pretty type. AND–he may be a character actor, but in my opinion with Boardwalk Empire he’s shown he has the skills to be the face of a great program. I hope there is more risk taking as far as opportunities given to these types of actors. My guess is many people would be surprised that an actor doesn’t have to be gorgeous to be a moneymaker for a big film.

    And this is trite of course, but nearly all of what makes a person ‘ugly’ is internal. External beauty all but vanishes when paired with a cruel personality.

  508. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Zack: We always remember these character actors. One that comes to mind for me always is Steve Buscemi. He’s not going to win any awards for world’s sexiest person, but he has such striking features that I’ve seen not a few women mention that they find him appealing. I think it’s probably better in a lot of ways to stand out with a unique face like that than to be just another samey Hollywood handsome/pretty type.

    And this is trite of course, but nearly all of what makes a person ‘ugly’ is internal. External beauty all but vanishes when paired with a cruel personality.

    A woman agrees, internal beauty can shine through an otherwise ordinary physique to reveal a beautiful person. A stunningly beautiful physique can house a cruel personality, revealing an unappealing person after all. Sansa learned this the hard way, as many of us have.

  509. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    Asim Ahmad seems off to me for Thoros.

    I thought Thoros was older than Robert? This guy looks younger to me more than older or even a contemporary. He certainy does not fit most of my traits I look for in Thoros. Tall, thin and grey haired (in the later books). He somewhat fits the earlier books version of a tall, fat bald man in faded robes….
    They could age him up easily enough I suppose…..

    I think this would be the first big shock of Season 3 casting! At least to me!

    ETA:
    His Facebook says he is in pre-production for a remake of The Hound of the Baskerville currently and it would be the first project he directs!. As a director does pre-production actually mean you are somewhat involved?

    I guess that project could be shelved or he could pull out.

  510. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Macha:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Have I read correctly, they mentioned 13 episodes? LOL.

    darquemode,
    I edited my comment above with the info.

    It appears they did mention 13 episodes, perhaps into S4? A woman is still skeptical of this item.

  511. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    According to his Twitter, he flew somewhere on June 26th, the day before the script reading. One of his friends asks him if he met “Emilia” and he responds “I did get to meet her briefly, yes. Lovely girl.”

    If he isn’t in the cast, he’s deliberately trying to mislead people. I’d say he’s probably in. :)

  512. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    He has a lot of projects he is currently working on according to his Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Asim-Ahmad/138414676201580?sk=info

    Hound in the Baskervilles (Directing)
    Assassin’s Creed movie (Writing?)
    Kamen II (Writing)

  513. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Well it does seem that way…
    Interesting….. no credited roles to his resume…. and Thoros?
    Could be I guess!

    What date is that tweet? I looked at his Twitter and missed it I guess….

    ETa:

    Did you cap it by chance?…Nevermind I found it.. cap’d.

  514. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    darquemode,

    According to his Twitter, he flew somewhere on June 26th, the day before the script reading. One of his friends asks him if he met “Emilia” and he responds “I did get to meet her briefly, yes. Lovely girl.”

    If he isn’t in the cast, he’s deliberately trying to mislead people. I’d say he’s probably in. :)

    darquemode:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    He has a lot of projects he is currently working on according to his Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Asim-Ahmad/138414676201580?sk=info

    Hound in the Baskervilles (Directing)
    Assassin’s Creed movie (Writing?)
    Kamen II (Writing)

    OK OK! A woman will give the benefit of the doubt.

  515. Kurgana
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Tormund is actually described as wide, but not really tall…
    Anyway – Mance is described as average height, which is is not “just under 6 feet”, it is about 5’9″ (in Middle Ages it was obviously ways lower, but our point of reference are modern day actors, not real people from that period). It may be an inch less or more, but 6’12″ is ways above it.
    He’s also described as “slender”, so “swimmer’s build” does not apply, but it’s not only about size, it’s about the entire impression, which – as I understand it – is “insignificant”, unimpressive in any aspect. Purefoy – as many other candidates for the part – is a men of an undoubtedly imposing looks, not only due to his height, but also this “well proportioned build” you have mentioned and canonical good looks. Mance does not need to be “ugly” (whatever that means) and he has every right to be hot (actually I consider Carlyle dragonfire ;)), he needs to have that charm and charisma, but classical handsomeness is too much for me, it’s too obvious for a character, whose strength is so within.
    It is well known to you how Mance came to power and what his abilities are, but it is not so obvious to a viewer, who knows very little about him and who will rely upon the first impression. And if it’s too impressive the assumptions will follow.

    Oh, and believe me – my view on the appearance of humanity is most different. But I am aware of certain cannons and what they tag along.

  516. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Thoros isn’t a very big part as written. He is just present more than he actually speaks so I wouldn’t see the need for a terribly experienced actor.

    But we’ll have to wait and see. I’d think someone cast would know not to discuss it on Twitter, but who knows.

  517. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Kurgana,

    Agreed on all counts.
    Like I said I always pictured Mance as average on Westeros (which seems taller than 5′-9″ to me) and I did not limit his attractiveness …. right or wrong.

    I am all fo Carlyle as Mance though…. I am intrigued by the idea of Crook too.
    If he is fact cast in that role.

  518. The Rabbit
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Interesting choice if it s true (and I think it is – according to all tweets you people brought in here.)
    Far from the image I had of Thoros in my mind – but many of the actors all through two seasons convinced me that some choices could work brilliantly even if they do not match my image.

  519. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I could be way off, but I suspected they will increase the highlighted BWB characters they show. Arya’s story needs more than just Beric and Gendry around. If they do not cast the rest of the BWB I guess I thought Thoros would be getting more screen time. Not a leading role of course… but somewhat substantial. I guess he could be the same small role…

    Maybe more casting news will come out afterall! XD
    It’s hard to search for random tweets around June 26 though! :)

  520. Alan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Would be a pretty big leap from extra to speaking role for this writer/actor. Wouldn’t be unheard of, but still.

  521. Kurgana
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I do not limit the quantity of his attractiveness, I limit the type of it.
    Like with Jamie or Loras – both need to be extremely attractive men, but in a totally different way, Jamie is this über-masculine type, while Loras is a beautiful boy.

    Anyway, how about Purefoy for Edmure? I can totally see him there.
    Carlyle is out of the picture, he’s shooting another show, but Crook I really like for Mance, even if he’s a bit too young for it.

  522. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    And it looks like Biter is on set, as he’s just tweeted about being in the Titanic Bldg. https://twitter.com/gerardjordan82/status/220286861262852097/photo/1

    Which is where they’re shooting. At least according to this guy who works behind the scenes. https://twitter.com/berniewdoyle/status/217168323971002369/photo/1

  523. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    It’s really not. Not being on film a lot doesn’t indicate a lack of acting ability. Kit Harington and John Bradley had like no experience on film before they cast. Emilia had only done one episode of a TV show before GoT.

  524. Zack
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Alan,

    It’s really not. Not being on film a lot doesn’t indicate a lack of acting ability. Kit Harington and John Bradley had like no experience on film before they cast. Emilia had only done one episode of a TV show before GoT.

    Don’t casting people look at prior theater work as much as, if not more than, film/television work?

  525. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    True… and all actors get their first roles with limited or no experience of course.

    I just find it easier to accept in young actors than with older actors I guess. It in no way means he won’t be a good actor of course. It just appears a bit more shocking to me on first glance when I see a 34-year old actor cast with no credited roles nad no notes of being more of a theatre actor….

    Odd that I never really pictured Thoros that dark, but I did picture Taena and other people from Myr dark skinned…

  526. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    I really couldn’t say what casting directors look for, that specifically. :)

    darquemode,

    Oh God, that “old?” He’s my age lol. You really do see actors his age who don’t get a big break until their thirties or even beyond. People doing theater and other work.

    The only real question is, is he our guy?

    And he is just the right shade for a Myrish man. That’s awesome. He’s younger than book-Thoros but I really don’t think that matters.

  527. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Ha no I don’t think 34 is old!
    (Maybe a bit young for Thoros though)

    I just saw more writing and behind the scenes projects in his resume (albeit more notes on a resume and not an official CV). It seems like he may be an aspiring actor who in th emeantime writes and works behind the scenes more. That certainly would not be a first! XD

    Plus I do see theatre credits for him…
    “Asim left Marvel in 2002 to concentrate on an acting career, appearing on stage in productions of ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO’S NEST, THE TEMPEST and ROMEO & JULIET. Asim later then went into film and television productions….”

    He will grow on me more (and he has already grown on me some), and they can age him easily…. However the one tweet about someone thinking he was 25 the other day…. well it sits odd with me!
    Maybe they were just flattering him? XD

  528. Mormegil
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    I get the impression that Asim Ahmad might be a bit of a Walter Mitty.

  529. Zack
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Yeah, I mean…it’s obviously a lot of different things. Sometimes they’ll have a lot of prior film work to go off of, while occasionally they get someone completely brilliant out of left field, like Maisie, but I’ve heard that, just as an example, Kit Harington had done some quality stage work that counted for quite a bit in the casting. So I try to caution people who just check IMDB as their gauge to determine if a certain actor is experienced enough for bigger roles. Film experience is just a piece of it.

  530. Macha
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    Appearance-wise I could really see him as Thoros, at least the way he’s portrayed here for example . :)
    And late bloomers are quite common in the acting business after all (think Alan Rickman or our very own Liam Cunningham, and these are just two examples off the top of my head).
    It’s the ’13 episodes’ thing that still has me smiling, but I guess that could be discarded as misunderstood information, if everything else stands.

  531. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    I think we’re just at a wait-and-see point with this guy. If it is him, he can’t confirm it and if he was just playing around, well he’s not going to confirm that. So I guess we wait.

  532. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    A woman is curious to see if Thoros will wear bright red robes like Melissandre, or something more “camouflage friendly” as befits a stealth rebel group?

  533. Alan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Alan,

    It’s really not. Not being on film a lot doesn’t indicate a lack of acting ability. Kit Harington and John Bradley had like no experience on film before they cast. Emilia had only done one episode of a TV show before GoT.

    Well, I didn’t say he had a lack of acting ability.

    Most of the people with a lack of film/tv credit that get roles in film and tv are not surprisingly young actors. All of the speaking cast members on game with no prior TV or film credits are young – who was the oldest when cast and how old were they? 20? 21?

    So, yes, it’s a leap in terms of exposure either way and it’s unusual for someone of his age to see a leap of this size. It’s not unheard of but it’s rare and I think he’d be by far the oldest actor on the show for whom this is his first speaking TV/movie role.

    I don’t think it means he would be a horrible actor. Plenty of screenwriters are actually very good at acting — they think about these reactions, about how characters would talk and act. It’s not a wholly distinct skill set aside from the looks requirements.

    It’s just unusual. I also doubt he’s done a lot of high profile theater if his primary career is writing, but I could be wrong.

  534. Alan
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Zack: Don’t casting people look at prior theater work as much as, if not more than, film/television work?

    I have no certain insight. I’ve worked on casting very small budget films, so I can play with my own experiences, but cannot speak for someone who has the experience or resources of a Nina Gold.

    That massive caveat aside, I would think that theater work would be looked at in the case that the actor hasn’t done significant TV or Film. For one, while performances are often (always, maybe?) filmed, often the quality/shots they get aren’t what you are looking for.

    But there’s also the point that the stage and the screen are different media. At the level of acting we’re seeing, I imagine that the difficulty many of the actors I see in translating the quality is pretty minimal — they are so good/can learn, but sometimes what you are looking for on screen can be hard to translate from stage, I’d imagine, because the style of acting is substantially different. One huge difference: on stage, your audience is often hundreds of feet away. You project, you exaggerate motions, you overact a bit. On screen, your audience is often the equivalent of inches away. Subtle movements, eye flickers, whispered sighs, wrinkled brows — things that could never been see by a stage audience are vital and things you do for a stage audience are seen as wild over acting.

    So, in that vein, I’m sure the casting directors prefer filmed credits. It’s in the style of acting you’re looking for. And if you have a good base of those, I doubt anyone would dive into random taped footage of stage work. Heck, I bet there’s a good chance Emilia was cast solely on her auditions, with no real reference to prior work.

  535. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    This must be why miss Bolger has not responded to my got tweet :)

    Ours is the Fury:
    darquemode,

    But we’ll have to wait and see. I’d think someone cast would know not to discuss it on Twitter, but who knows.

  536. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Here is his page at Casting Now.

    No confirmation, but some nice details about his training and resume!

  537. Zack
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Alan: For one, while performances are often (always, maybe?) filmed, often the quality/shots they get aren’t what you are looking for.

    I think they’ll be paying closer attention to the actor’s delivery than the lighting, so ‘ film quality’ shouldn’t count for much ;)

    Good post, though! I appreciate your insight from the inside–even as limited as you say, it’s more than I’ve got!

    And it’s not that I wasn’t aware of the different skill sets required of acting on the screen vs. the stage, because you’re spot on in that regard, but the gist of what I was saying is that to my understanding, it’s fairly common for television roles to be filled by young actors fresh out of acting school, with no TV/film work to their credit. Lack of that sort of experience doesn’t seem to be a deterrent for casting directors in situations where the actor has done his share of well-received theater work. Assuming, as you rightly point out, that the actor suitably demonstrates his ability to act ‘for TV’ when called in.

  538. WildSeed
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed: Reply: I still him as a major player Wildling / Pirate but that may be me just typecasting.
    McKenzie may represent Dondarrion’s wasted appearance but w/ superhuman strength
    as noted in the books. Was it ACOK that detailed that physical description? Anyways
    his uncanny ability to survive a beating or hanging as if by magic only adds to the
    theatrics on screen . He’d better look good beating down an opponent in choice scenes
    though. Suppose MC can wield a sword ? I see intense training with weights and sword
    play-dancing lessons.” Just stick them with the pointy end”. If Benioff and Weiss manage
    to hire Fionnula Flanagan for lady (Queen of Thorns) Martell, the universe will be at
    balance again. Too bad actor Mark Strong isn’t around to portray Roose Bolton, he’s
    wicked cool.

    Edit : QoT Martell? I must have not allowed enough time for the wine alcohol to
    dissipate while cooking. Maybe I just drank too much Arbor Gold. Please forgive me
    correct Martell to QoT Tyrell. Let’s all pray for Fionnula Flanagan to portray QoT :D

  539. Derek
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Wouldn’t the obvious Night’s Watch role for Crook be as Donal Noye? I know Noye is supposed to be muscular, but the more important physical attribute of his seems to be his one arm: the reader reaction is supposed to be “They left THIS guy in charge?!”, which makes the Watch defense seem all the more desperate. I think Crook could accomplish that even without the one arm.

  540. WildSeed
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    I’m eager to see Thoros of Myr as he is quite an evolving character in ASOIAF. His
    association with ADWD characters ( C,A,T ,V,etc) always had me wondering what
    his agenda is all about. Isn’t his introduction to GoT a bit too soon? If Brock Peters
    or Avery Brooks were possible contenders for the role I’ll fly out to steal a peek.
    Morgan Freedman would be commanding too but demand too much $$$$, Danny
    Glover as well. My retired Caribbean born uncle ( once practicing Zoroasteran) might
    be available but hates large ships. He’d do it though for sister stew and some rum :D

  541. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Amazing cover of Ramin Dijawadi’s version of The Rains of Castamere. They have to do something like this in season 3!

    http://youtu.be/2EhFCdRcL2Y

    There’s a download link as well.

  542. WildSeed
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Derek,

    Ya know McKenzie just gives many of here the impression of a North Man or
    Brother at the Wall or Wildling. Donal Noye is an likable character at the
    Wall but GoT may not expand his role beyond a few takes. Mikken the smithy
    at Winterfell was a lesser character true but given only a glance at Theon’s
    occupation. There seems to be a focus more on principle roles more than likable
    characters so that even cast in the scene they’re presence is diminished. I believe
    Donal if casted will be a small and underserving role for McKenzie. Right now
    it’s the fantastic four: Jon,Pyp,Grenn and Samwell ( and of course the senior Bros).
    Tormund and Mance’s roles are up next and probably worthier of a seasoned actor
    like M.Crook. It’s just my POV though. Maybe he’ll end up a knight or Ironborn,
    who knows ? He’s apparently been around for a while and up for any challenging role.

  543. Gatehouse Ami
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Hi, been lurking… .
    Maybe we’ve already met a Martell?
    I want to believe Lady Talisa is more character than we thought… an embedded Sand Snake? Mother is a noblewoman of Volantis, she has a long dark braid with widow’s peak, gives good knife and last we know in DwD, she’s off to the capitol. Please, maybe… Lady Nym, make Talisa make sense!

  544. WildSeed
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:31 pm | Permalink

    Gatehouse Ami,

    Hmm…..not sure a ” Sand Snake” would want to infiltrate the Stark camps on
    their quest to King’s Landing….but what do I know. Talisa is clearly a new
    character and no way resembles Jeyne Westerling so we’ve yet to learn Benioff
    and Weiss character arc for her. I do like her and admire her work but I ‘m uneasy
    with the missteps of the Robb and Catelyn scenes at the Stark camp. We can only
    wait and remain open minded with the direction of the storyline. I can hardly wait
    for the Red Viper to be introduced ( I hope not too soon though, ahead of the
    true story like Jaime’s release ), who is your pick?

  545. WildSeed
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    I really couldn’t say what casting directors look for, that specifically. :)

    darquemode,

    Oh God, that “old?” He’s my age lol. You really do see actors his age who don’t get a big break until their thirties or even beyond. People doing theater and other work.

    The only real question is, is he our guy?

    And he is just the right shade for a Myrish man. That’s awesome. He’s younger than book-Thoros but I really don’t think that matters.

    What do you think of Avery Brooks, or Chiwetal Eljiofor guy?

  546. freoduwebbe
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Zack: We always remember these character actors. One that comes to mind for me always is Steve Buscemi. He’s not going to win any awards for world’s sexiest person, but he has such striking features that I’ve seen not a few women mention that they find him appealing. I think it’s probably better in a lot of ways to stand out with a unique face like that than to be just another samey Hollywood handsome/pretty type. AND–he may be a character actor, but in my opinion with Boardwalk Empire he’s shown he has the skills to be the face of a great program.

    Or as the ladies in Fargo said – he’s ‘funny looking’… hahhaha
    I like the funny looking ones myself.

    I think Crook would make a good Mance.

  547. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Brooks hasn’t worked in several years. Not sure if he’s still acting. Loved him on Star Trek. Chiwetel is fantastic but is busy with movies. There’s no way he’d be available, and to play such a small role on TV show.

  548. Gatehouse Ami
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    I guess I’m wondering how they could get a longer life span for Chaplin’s character, can’t imagine her fading out like Jeyne. Figure, Tywin hatched a plot with the Westerlings, why not the Martells? She could still be innocent to it and have more to do at the end of the series. For Oberyn… I can’t commit. For Mance, I could see someone like John Hawkes (not kingly!) or, in my dreams, Tom Waits, but am now digging the Crook speculation…

  549. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I like Chiwetel Ejiofor quite a bit and think he is underrated by many. I had not thought of him for any specific role though honestly….

    Avery Brooks is fun too, although he is American of course. It seems like American actors are less likely to be cast going by the ratio of UK and Euro actors to US actors in the Thrones cast.

    Were you thinking of them as Jalabhar Xho or Dornish? Maybe somewhere in the Free Cities with Dany?

    I can certainly see Chiwetel Ejiofor as Xho!
    I wonder if Xho is a large enough part for him though….

  550. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    He did TV series The Shadow Line just last year…
    Of course, he was one of the two leads in the series and that was last year …

    He does take interesting roles that aren’t always blockbusters. Not sure there is a meaty enough role left in Thrones for him though… Sadly.

  551. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Yeah but that was last year. This year he’s starring in a couple movies and his career is at a higher point. I don’t think he would do TV unless it were a lead. And there aren’t any of those available on GoT right now, just small, albeit cool, gigs.

  552. tysnow
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    LordStarkington,

    I read somewhere recently that Dany’s scenes will still be filmed in Crotia this season, along with KL. So my guess is Morocco is Dorne and D&D will give us a few scenes setting up the Dornish this year. They have plenty of room to have some liberties, SoS was 50% longer than GoT, if GoT was 10, then Storm would be 15, but lets say 17 episodes. This leaves D&D 3 episodes to be lose and free with their adaption (more so than atm).
    We know that Myrcella would arrive at SS during this season and a certain Princess would become her escort. Furthermore a couple of the Sandsnakes could be in the background as guards, which could bring up a whole expository dialogue about them. Myrcella could be fearful and apprehensive at their presence and this lead into a series of exchanges concerning their background which includes their father. Therefore setting the stage for next season. Maybe add a scene where in a out of focus lens we see the SS saying goodbye to RV and Myrcella and PA discussing the compassion evident from indivuals that Westeros fears, of course we don’t learn where he is going, therefore D&D would be building up the surprise for when he shows up. We get scenes showing info that would have logically happened, and a build-up for OM along with introduction to Dorne in just perhaps two or three scenes running about 12-14 minutes total.
    We know of course a certain fandom that will scream and be perhaps a little upset, “it wasn’t in SoS it shouldn’t be in this year”, blah, blah. For this argument I created the response which was explained above.

  553. Carne
    Posted July 3, 2012 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Myrcella is not in season 3, nor do I think Dorne will be.

  554. Biscotti
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 3:27 am | Permalink

    Asim lived in London from the age of 2-16 so he probably does not have a strong American accent. His casting now page also says “I am also proficient in the use of fire arms, I have been professionally trained and qualified with the use of weapons, and I am also a swordsman.”

  555. WildSeed
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 3:50 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    WildSeed,

    Brooks hasn’t worked in several years. Not sure if he’s still acting. Loved him on Star Trek. Chiwetel is fantastic but is busy with movies. There’s no way he’d be available, and to play such a small role on TV show.

    Reply: Yeah I thought so I heard Mr Brooks is teaching college level drama studies in
    Chicago and starring in stage plays. Too bad, with the sophistication he applied to
    his ST Deep Space 9 character was akin to observing a Shakespearean stage play.
    His voice is what I think of when I read Thoros’s lines in ADWD. Mr Eljiofor may
    be a fan or not of GoT but would only give a polite No and say he was flattered to be
    asked. He has great acting range but unattractive in a woman’s wig and red dress.
    Ultimately I see Brock Peters as personifying Thoros but I’m not sure he’s alive.
    There’s a character in those ” Final Destination ” movies with a recurring role as
    a coroner or grim reaper but I can’t think of his name. Then again there’s always
    my no acting experience Zoroasteran uncle. He’d work for sister stew and a pint of
    Jamaican rum :D

  556. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 4:06 am | Permalink

    On my way to bed, but I had an amusing thought.

    What if the Asim Ahmad as Thoros rumor turns out to be totally false…. and he is actually Strong Belwas! XD XD
    I kid, I kid!

    OK… that is all. Good night and good hunting!

  557. Lex
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 4:09 am | Permalink

    tysnow:
    LordStarkington,
    I read somewhere recently that Dany’s scenes will still be filmed in Crotia this season, along with KL. So my guess is Morocco is Dorne

    I saw GRRM speak in Seattle tonight. He said that Morocco is for Dany’s Slaver’s Bay scenes.

    My full Seattle report (including two Winds of Winter spoiler chapters) here: http://winteriscoming.net/2012/07/first-set-photo-from-season-three/#comment-199624

  558. Nick Larter
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 4:11 am | Permalink

    Elsewhere in Asim Ahmad’s Twitter feed he’s asked if he’s met Emilia yet, to which he replies:-

    https://twitter.com/asimaahmad/status/218071340249391104

    Why would Thoros be meeting Emilia? He’s Daario maybe?

  559. WildSeed
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 4:24 am | Permalink

    darquemode:
    WildSeed,

    I like Chiwetel Ejiofor quite a bit and think he is underrated by many. I had not thought of him for any specific role though honestly….

    Avery Brooks is fun too, although he is American of course. It seems like American actors are less likely to be cast going by the ratio of UK and Euro actors to US actors in the Thrones cast.

    Were you thinking of them as Jalabhar Xho or Dornish? Maybe somewhere in the Free Cities with Dany?

    I can certainly see Chiwetel Ejioforas Xho!
    I wonder if Xho is a large enough part for him though….

    Mr Eljiofor has played a Drag Queen in “Kinky Boots”, an American disc jockey,
    a scientist , a mercenary, and more roles than I’m aware of. I’m sure he’d bring
    a unique strength to any character on GoT whether Thoros of Myr , the Red Viper,
    Bravos to Kings Landing. The GoT Xharo was a insignificant character as written
    in the script (although viewers may not have seen the last of him) with all pomp
    and glittery robes but a weak role for a big star. Sean Bean’s portrayal of Ned was
    brief but unique and strong. Unless Chiwetel is a wicked fan like Charlize Theron,
    the likelihood of a nod from him is unlikely. I’m sure there’s a fair aggregate of
    talented unfamiliar actors being considered, I just hope it’s a great match up. Don’t
    you think the mention the mention of Thoros is too soon? Maybe not as I always mix
    him up with Vacquero(?) who traveled with C,A,T,V aboard ship.

  560. WildSeed
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    darquemode:
    On my way to bed, but I had an amusing thought.

    What if the Asim Ahmad as Thoros rumor turns out to be totally false…. and he is actually Strong Belwas! XD XD
    I kid, I kid!

    OK… that is all. Good night and good hunting!

    Please let it be so. Seems like a good fit. Goodnight :D

  561. WildSeed
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 4:34 am | Permalink

    Lex: I saw GRRM speak in Seattle tonight. He said that Morocco is for Dany’s Slaver’s Bay scenes.

    My full Seattle report (including two Winds of Winter spoiler chapters) here: http://winteriscoming.net/2012/07/first-set-photo-from-season-three/#comment-199624

    Thanks for this, it appreciated as fresh legitimate news. How come you can’t just
    pull a Pyatt Pree number ( like he did with GoT Danerys ) and beam a few of us in
    the next panel meeting?? Have fun anyhow :D

  562. oracle86
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:24 am | Permalink

    Why would someone tell Asim Ahmad that he would be in the show for 13 episodes? After all, season 3 is only 10 episodes, right? Or are they writing scripts for Season 4 already? Seems unlikely….

  563. Macha
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:56 am | Permalink

    Nick Larter: Why would Thoros be meeting Emilia? He’s Daario maybe?

    That was the day after the read-through, so it’s not unusual to have actors together that otherwise will be filming on separate locations.

  564. Nick Larter
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    Macha,

    Ah OK

  565. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Nick Larter:
    Why would Thoros be meeting Emilia?He’s Daario maybe?

    At this stage of production, all the actors are in Belfast, they were doing readings/coaching during 26-29 June. So the Night’s Watch boys can go for a drink with Loras and Gendry, and Ygritte hangs out with Brienne and Cat outside their hotel.

  566. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    oracle86,

    That is an odd one!
    I can think of two possibilities to that number of episodes….
    The first and most likely would be that Ahmad’s girlfriend (the original source for the Tumblr rumor) does not watch Thrones and has no idea how many episodes are in a season so she just arbitrarily threw out a number. I guess it is also possible that D&D have Season 3 and Season 4 both plotted and Thoros will appear in 13 episodes over the 2 seasons….

    Of course the third possibility is this rumor is false and this is the first red flag letting us know. XD

    I suspect it could be true though I guess. I’m not at 100% yet, but…. I can believe it’s possible he was cast… and I can believe he could play Thoros…..
    For whatever that is worth! XD

  567. Alan
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    oracle86,

    That is an odd one!
    I can think of two possibilities to that number of episodes….
    The first and most likely would be that Ahmad’s girlfriend (the original source for the Tumblr rumor) does not watch Thrones and has no idea how many episodes are in a season so she just arbitrarily threw out a number. I guess it is also possible that D&D have Season 3 and Season 4 both plotted and Thoros will appear in 13 episodes over the 2 seasons….

    Of course the third possibility is this rumor is false and this is the first red flag letting us know. XD

    I suspect it could be true though I guess. I’m not at 100% yet, but…. I can believe it’s possible he was cast… and I can believe he could play Thoros…..
    For whatever that is worth! XD

    I think there’s a good chance they know how many episodes Thoros will be in over two seasons. Or at least an expected number.

  568. The Rabbit
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Do not know if someone allready posted it here.http://www.flickr.com/photos/gungeekatx/7464255412/
    but at far right is definitely Crook.
    I wonder who s hiding behiend Rose Leslie?

  569. Macha
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Could it be Philip McGinley?

  570. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    Here is a shot in the dark casting rumor….
    Well, admittedly more of an observation that with research and time could go somewhere…. maybe? XD

    Actress Sarah Allen recently just started Twitter and is following John Bradley and he just started following her as well.

    It likely means nothing, but….. She has extensive theatre experience, has a look that could work well for Val (and others) and has the new Twitter connections to Bradley . Excluding Allen (who is the most recent account Bradley is following), 3 of Bradley’s last 4 Twitter accounts he started following have been newly cast Thrones cast members: Philip McGinley , Daniel Portman (cast last year admittedly), and Nathalie Emmanuel.

    A reach to be sure, but the way Bradley has added new cast members makes it an interesting reach to me!! Plus there has been no new casting rumors or news for 24 hours now! XD

    *taps vein*

    I need a fix!

  571. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    It certainly looks like McGinley’s eyebrow and eye! XD
    I would not bet on it, but I think it is him…..

    IS that Joe Dempsie in the hoodie off to the side too?

  572. Macha
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Holy smokes!
    Yer a wizard, darquemode! :D
    It seems like a long shot for now, but there may be something to it. She’s really short isn’t she? I think I’ve found her facebook, at least I think I’m right. I’m not very good at this. :)
    http://www.facebook.com/people/Sarah-Allen/752055385
    Not really seing her as Val though but who knows? It’s nice to have some fresh meat to chew on while we wait.

  573. Mormegil
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Both her and John Bradley went to the Manchester School of Theatre so it may just be that he knows her from there rather than a GoT connection.

  574. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    VERY true!
    I forgot to write that in my comment as another reason why it may be nothing….
    Like I said most likely nothing, but any connection is interesting to me this time of year I guess!

  575. Macha
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,
    darquemode,

    Oh…well it was fun while it lasted. :)

  576. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    I really think that girl is just one of his many drama school classmates/friends. I wouldn’t count her as a real possibility.

    And this is absolutely Mackenzie Crook in this pic!
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gungeekatx/7464255412/in/photostream

    That’s as much confirmation as we’re going to get until we get HBO’s official announcement. Thanks to Rabbit for tweeting that @ me!

  577. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Nice and it is her I think…
    I’m writing it off as nothing for now, but ya never know…….
    John Bradley seems to be a social buttefly on Twitter so him adding someone is not exactly suspicious really… just the timing made me think!

    I don’t see Val so much for her either… When I wrote it I had the wrong Sarah Allen’s profile. I found this Canadian actress’s IMDB and thought of Val. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1623675/
    I forgot to delete that bit! XD

  578. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Levi Agee,

    Like I said on Twitter, I think that’s Philip McGinley. It’s definitely not Madden, and what little we can see does resemble McGinley’s head shots.

  579. The Rabbit
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Until HBO announces the news now we are left to guess what role Crook is playing.
    My money is on Mance.

  580. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    I’ve grown used to the idea of him as Mance, if he is in that role. It would certainly be an interesting take, somewhat more in line with the books than the tall, gorgeous leading-man type actors that most of us have fancast as Mance. :)
    And his singing is actually pretty good.

  581. Sarah
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Oooo Mance I had never thought of Crook to play him, for me I thought Beric after the number of times he comes back from the dead

  582. Sarah
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    I think we can definitely take Sarah Bolger out of the running for any part in GoT due to this new commitment. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2101062/Downton-Abbey-Irish-actress-Sarah-Bolger-lands-US-version.html
    Oh well as another Sarah, Nina I’m free, lol.

  583. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    That article is several months old. “Gilded Lilys” filmed a pilot, but it wasn’t picked up.

  584. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and Maisie Williams just started following Philip McGinley on Twitter. He is so in. Just a matter of which role.

  585. Sarah
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Ah so it was my bad, but deleting comments about GoT on twitter makes it seem as though she isn’t in

  586. Carne
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    My money on Edmure for McGinley.

    I don’t see Crook as Rayder nor as Beric, but I think the latter is more likely based on his physical appearance.

  587. Macha
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Sweet! He’s quite dishy too, which is an added bonus. ;)

  588. WildSeed
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    I really think that girl is just one of his many drama school classmates/friends. I wouldn’t count her as a real possibility.

    And this is absolutely Mackenzie Crook in this pic!
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gungeekatx/7464255412/in/photostream

    That’s as much confirmation as we’re going to get until we get HBO’s official announcement. Thanks to Rabbit for tweeting that @ me!

    Reply: Great photo, thanks for passing it on. I’m being convinced too that Mackenzie
    is a serious contender for Mance. He may be able to carry a tune as well, tho may
    not need to. They all look like happy campers here.

  589. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Sarah,

    Well finally we can put this rumour to rest so people stop saying she is Meera .

  590. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I think all of those actors rumored to be meeting up together during the prefilming period will play out to be cast for sure now. The two exceptions to me are Bolger and McGinty since they were not part of the larger group, but more isolated connections. They still could be in, but I’m not as confident in their casting as I am with Crook and McGinley I guess…

    McGinley as Edmure I think is likely, but he feels young for Edmure to me. I still see Goodman-Hill as Edmure, especially after watching Richard II!
    He does fit the age of Beric better and has the handsome appearance of early Beric. He is thin, but not emaciated… so I’m not sure on Beric either.

    The opposite is true of Crook for me. He feels too old for Beric but right on the spot for Mance. And the fact he can sing just adds to the Mance-ness of Crook to me….

  591. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Kinda off-topic, but Michelle looks like a ray of sunshine in that pic (lol, cheesy as fuck, I know) with the rest of the cast. I love her so much.

  592. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    If you read my previous reply, you’ll see that the “Gilded Lilys” pilot is long dead, and not a problem.

    However the Bolger sighting is, as always, still just a rumor. I have no idea why you’re so adamantly against the idea of her being involved, but it’s not that crazy an idea.

  593. Lex
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    My guess:

    The McGinley guy is Beric (or possibly Edmure), and Mackenzie Crook is Ramsey.

  594. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I’m not against the idea of her being involved in the show, i just don’t like her as Meera .

  595. Danielle
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Ok, I know it’s probably pretty much a done deal on all this casting stuff but I just watched Wrath of the titans over the weekend and all I could think was that the guy playing Ares should either play Ramsay or Darrio next season. Here’s a pic “>http://www.imdb.com/media/rm297776640/nm1183149

  596. Josla
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Heidi,

    I don’t want Maggie Smith for the QOT, she just reminds me too much of Harry Potter.
    I would love to know who they’re casting for Tormund Giantsbane, he’s so charismatic, he’s definitely one of the characters I enjoyed the most in the books

  597. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    Where did you hear that??? There are fb posts on her fb, and she hasn’t deleted them

    Sarah:
    Ours is the Fury,

    Ah so it was my bad, but deleting comments about GoT on twitter makes it seem as though she isn’t in

  598. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    In regards to gilded lillys, I knew period pieces are tough on network tv, but I thought with the popularity of downton Abby and it having a stellar cast and being a shonda rimes production I thought it would be picked up

  599. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 4, 2012 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    So does wic have enough to run with mcginley and crook?

  600. andrea
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Mc Ginley really looks like McElhatton/Bolton´s son. I think he´s Ramsay.

  601. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 12:39 am | Permalink

    We really need an official confirmation of sorts before running with anyone, I think. Russell as the Blackfish was posted on his agency’s website (before it was pulled) but a pic of Mackenzie Crook isn’t confirmation of him in any particular role.

    andrea,

    Initially I hadn’t considered him for that part at all because his photos make him look so damned pleasant, but he is acceptable, looks and agewise for the part.

  602. darquemode
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    It’s interesting with the way information has come out this year…

    One young actress outted by her acting school…. One actress outted by the London Evening Standard, but we don’t know her role….. Another actress sluethed with an actual script cover page, but we do not know her role either…. A number of actors assumed cast without knowing their roles… One outted by his girlfriend telling a friend , but not confirmed in anyway…. The most confounding is one of the three we have both a role and “confirmation” for, Charlotte Hope as “Myranda”…. Like last year with Chaplin cast as “Jeyne” we get a single name leaving the exact role still undetermined.

  603. Lizzie
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0au2vLAsMwA

    For what it’s worth, McGinley’s reel seems to indicate he’s an Edmure ~type at least. Of course, it’s entirely possible that they could have cast against type and put him in a different kind of role but the reel really makes it look like Edmure.

  604. Mormegil
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 4:05 am | Permalink

    Josla: Heidi, I would love to know who they’re casting for Tormund Giantsbane, he’s so charismatic, he’s definitely one of the characters I enjoyed the most in the books

    Brian Blessed, no proof just a feeling.

  605. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Re: McGinley: I am getting an Edmure vibe from him as well. Ramsay could be possible, but definitely an Edmure vibe.

  606. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    darquemode,

    So is Clive Russell confirmed for Blackfish? I read that HBO made the agency site take down the report of the casting. They are really holding onto this information under lock and key. Just think last year at this time we knew who Davos , Stannis and Mel were being played by already!

  607. Theon Rules!
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Does anyone know when they reveal characters who are returning from season 1 that weren’t in season 2?

    Like, for example, the Greatjon, Pyp, Lysa, Robin, etc…I’d really love to see the Greatjon back. Probably my favorite minor character of season 1!

  608. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Theon Rules!,

    Pyp has been already confirmed to return by the actor who plays him as for the others i don’t think they will confirm anything unless it’s going to be by a crew member like last year when an extra was the first to say that Greatjon will not return .

  609. Abyss
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Speaking of Pyp, that’s from Josef Altins twitter account. If IIRC it’s not from the books and he twitted an the same day, that he has to go back to learn his lines. Our first look at some lines of season 3 if you ask me.

    PYP: your a clown. GRENN: i like clowns (PYP JUST STARES AT HIM) PYP: can i ask you something? you said your mum ran away from you right?

  610. Impi
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Mormegil: Brian Blessed, no proof just a feeling.

    That would be awesome. A rumor that circulated IMDB last week would support that opinion. They said that an old school legend had been cast, someone that everyone stopped silent, just to hear them speak.

  611. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 9:06 am | Permalink

    Abyss,

    Pretty sure he was just joking around with that, that’s not real dialogue.

  612. Abyss
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Mh, when I think about it, your are probably right. Would be nonprofessional of him to post actual dialog from a script of season 3 at twitter. – Damn… ;-)

  613. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    maybe they make one big casting announcement at comic con?

  614. Carne
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    A long time ago I asked if Tony Curran had auditioned for season 3, and today I got an e-mail:

    Thank you for your enquiry. At the moment there are no plans for Tony to return in the 3rd season.

    Ah well, it was expected as I believe he’s doing something else at the moment.

  615. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Carne,

    Return? When was Tony Curran in the series?

  616. Carne
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Never as far as I know :P Weird wording by the agent.

  617. andrea
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: his photos make him look so damned pleasant

    I did this: went to imdb and compared the pictures. I was struck. I think the look on Mc Ginley´s face is more intriguing than pleasant (at least in that picture)
    Here: Mc Ginley
    and McElhatton
    Even McElhatton seems more pleasant in that picture.
    And perhaps it´ll be great that Ramsay looks nice at first sight. ;)

  618. darquemode
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    None of the roles we have been speculating on so far have been confirmed officially by HBO and that includes Clive Russell I guess.

    I consider it fairly official when a management team updates your CV with the information though. HBO making them take it down, I guess could add a little doubt in some minds, but it just confirms it to me I guess.

  619. darquemode
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Michael Tschuertz:
    maybe they make one big casting announcement at comic con?

    Does anyone recall if they announced any roles at Comic-Con last year?

    I am not positive, but I think they didn’t announce anyone…
    Of couse that does not mean this year would be the same anyway….

  620. the goat
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Not at the panel. I didn’t go to the signing, but I don’t think they announce anything at those.

  621. Jaegon
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Ohh if she is I hope she is good with accents , Natalie has a really strong southern /london accent so that worries me abit about playing someone who id expect to have a foreign one.

  622. Jaegon
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    I hope charlotte isnt playing meera tbh , i mean come on she looks like any other disney actress , far too glitzy and pretty. Meera was pretty don’t get me wrong , yet she was also athletic , not afraid to get dirty etc , she wrestled with dire wolves for god sake . i just cant see this actress embodying Meera’s northen , rough side. Who knows maybe with less make up and a northern costume she may be a good fit.

    P.S
    Considering many see her as a possible Bran partner/ love interest she looks abit old

  623. Direhound
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    From Westeros Twitter Feed via @seanachie
    http://tvline.com/2012/07/05/once-upon-a-time-casts-sarah-bolger-aurora/
    Sarah Bolger signs on to Once Upon a Time squashing GoT casting rumors of her playing Meera Reed. Interesting that first season writer Jane Epenson is a writer on that show. Maybe she can convince her to do both.

  624. darquemode
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Direhound,

    Maybe she could do both if her Once role starts filming later or earlier etc….
    I would think her being in LA auditioning for roles right now does put a damper on her being in a multi-season role in Game of Thrones though…..

  625. Direhound
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    I’ve got to hope that Meera and Jojen get a lot of next season’s screen time to make up for their absence in season 2. I actually quite enjoyed Bran’s story arch in last season and really think Isaac is knocking it out of the park.

  626. Perkins
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    I read through those pretty quickly…can anyone confirm or deny that the actor who played the greatjon will be back? or is it unknown at this time?

    I def think they are going to give dorne a darker complexion.

  627. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Boo no Sarah bolger, ouat is a show that I like so this works.

    With that our of the way I support darquemode’s suggestion of Anna popplewell

  628. Arthur
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Superdeluxe,

    Boooooooooooo! Oh well, Sarah will get more airtime and more money in that gig she landed so I’m happy for her. Sucks for the GoT fans that really wanted to see her as Meera though.

    Oh well, guess HBO decided its a better marketing stradegy to torture us by withholding casting announcements for as long as possible. Who the F is Meera! I have a right to know!!! Lol…

  629. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 5, 2012 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    Perkins,

    No, no one knows whether or not Clive Mantle will be back. He hasn’t been announced yet officially and we haven’t heard any rumors. Sorry!

  630. Nomad
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 7:26 am | Permalink

    I’m a sad panda. I pictured Bolger as Meera and it was a nice fit :(

  631. Carne
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    Luke McEwan is back as Rast in season 3 :D

    E-mailed his agent and she replied:

    Yep he sure is!

  632. MaryS-NJ
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    How do y’all feel about Mackensie Crook as Ramsay Snow? I know he looks nothing like the book character but I think he’d been interesting in the role.

    I think Sarah Bolger looks like an older Maisie Williams. She was my choice to play (flashback) Lyanna Stark, assuming we get some of Bran’s green dreams or a retelling of the events of the Tourney of Harrenhal from one of the Reeds, which might only need a scene or two and wouldn’t maybe conflict- if she’s been cast in another series as a regular.

  633. Nicolai Hansen
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    MaryS-NJ,

    Sarah Bolger isn’t playing Meera. She’s gonna play princess Aurora in the upcoming season of “Once Upon a Time”

  634. Theon Rules
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Perkins: I read through those pretty quickly…can anyone confirm or deny that the actor who played the greatjon will be back?

    It is unknown, but I would be absolutely ecstatic if he came back. Definitely one of my favorites.

  635. Michel
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    http://vimeo.com/45300802

    The Rabbit, just posted it on twitter, what the hell is this scene and who are the characters there ? The actor for me was excelent

  636. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    No idea. I’ve come across other auditions for Daario on youtube with the same dialogue as we heard before, but this tape and dialogue is something else entirely This is more threatening-sounding dialogue, like something Ramsay or the Goat would say? Only it’s not actual dialogue from the books, as far as I can tell. Very interesting.

    Cute actor. Great voice.

  637. Michel
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Ours is the Fury:

    Michel,

    No idea. I’ve come across other auditions for Daario on youtube with the same dialogue as we heard before, but this tape and dialogue is something else entirely This is more threatening-sounding dialogue, like something Ramsay would say? Only it’s not actual dialogue from the books, as far as I can tell. Very interesting.

    Cute actor. Great voice.

    I was thinking in Ramsay too, the dialogue and his gests are so close to Ramsay, but he is to different physicaly from Ramsey

  638. Brock Russell
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    HOLY SHIT!

    I think that was Ramsay, talking to Theon, even though he had a girl reading his lines.

    I loved it. He doesn’t match Ramsay’s description, which is fine, I guess. But hell, I’d love to see Stuart on the show as someone, if not Ramsay.

  639. MATTHEW
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Carne: Luke McEwan is back as Rast in season 3 :DE-mailed his agent and she replied:

    He will make excellent fodder for the Wight/Others attack.

    EDIT: Actually I changed my mind. He will be one of the turncloak brothers who murders Mormont and Craster. Probably the ringleader!

  640. Macha
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    What the f……?
    Ooooh I like this one.

    Michel,
    Even assuming he’s Ramsay, who’s the chick? ‘what if I told you your father ordered this‘….interesting to say the least.

  641. Michel
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Brock Russell,

    Brock Russell:
    Michel,

    HOLY SHIT!

    I think that was Ramsay, talking to Theon, even though he had a girl reading his lines.

    I loved it. He doesn’t match Ramsay’s description, which is fine, I guess. But hell, I’d love to see Stuart on the show as someone, if not Ramsay.

    I totally thaught the same, Ramsay and a girl reading the lines of Theon..i didn’t knew him before that, but he is so good..but fuck, he is really different for from Ramsay, i would love to see a Ramsay like the books

  642. Michel
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Oh, interesting..I forgot that line, so i don’t thinking the girl is reading the lines of Theon, but that doesn’t menas that it’s not Ramsay

  643. darquemode
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    I did not recognize the actual lines, but it did seem to be Ramsay talking to Theon to me like others suggested.

    The bit about “what would you say if I told you your father ordered this?” seems to fit too… maybe….

    Would Balon have given the Bastard of Bolton the ok or orders to torture his son? Would Ramsay use that line as psychological torture while playing with Theon?

    I really cannot think of any other roles that fit and make sense to me… captive children who still have living fathers….

    Interesting reading.

  644. Direhound
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    I came across that tape also through Rabbit and I can’t get it out of my head. The girl’s quite whimpering voice was so hypnotic. The male actor really impressed me. From his initial profile intro I was not feeling it but at the end I just wanted to keep watching him. Could see him as a lot of potential roles. Maybe not Ramsay because I’d like Ramsay to be a bit younger, maybe more of a hidden psychotic. This guy just reads psychotic and I love it.

  645. Direhound
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink
  646. Macha
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Michel,
    You people, always trying to bring in hot actors for Ramsay, are a peril to my mental sanity. ;)

  647. Michel
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Perfect Ramsay = Cillian Murphy

  648. The Rabbit
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Our friend and commenter Nick Larter came with idea the fit the most, I think.

    The role is one of the renegades at Crasters – and he is torturing Gilly.
    Everything fits: brother – father – truth.

  649. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 11:50 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit:
    Our friend and commenter Nick Larter came withidea the fit the most, I think.

    The role is one of the renegades at Crasters – and he is torturing Gilly.
    Everything fits: brother – father – truth.

    No, not Gilly, he said “take off HIS pants,” maybe Ramsay torturing Theon? Or the Goat torturing Jaime?

  650. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Michel,

    No idea. I’ve come across other auditions for Daario on youtube with the same dialogue as we heard before, but this tape and dialogue is something else entirely This is more threatening-sounding dialogue, like something Ramsay or the Goat would say? Only it’s not actual dialogue from the books, as far as I can tell. Very interesting.

    Cute actor. Great voice.

    More on YouTube? Links please? A woman would like to see too!

    Here’s a link to Stuart Martin’s Demo Reel

    http://www.imdb.com/video/demo_reel/vi3670843673/

  651. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    I’m sure Stuart Martin is a fine actor…… but not intense enough for Ramsay IMO. Ramsay is one of those characters that I am going to be really picky about, unlike some others who I really don’t mind who they choose :)

  652. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Bonnie Blue:
    I’m sure Stuart Martin is a fine actor…… but not intense enough for Ramsay IMO.Ramsay is one of those characters that I am going to be really picky about, unlike some others who I really don’t mind who they choose :)

    Did you check out the demo reel? That was more revealing than the audition to this woman’s eyes. Also depends on what the director is going for: quiet simmering seething psycho, or over-the-top wild and crazy psycho. Maybe one type for Ramsay and the other for Vargo, so there’s a contrast?

  653. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    BTW :Does sound like Ramsay and Theon dialogue to me too

  654. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Just watched it… It is more revealing, and if they decide to type that sort of actor for Ramsy, I would be willing to let him win me over :) Just can’t wait to see more casting news! I think we have a long wait, however!

  655. jabso
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 1:57 am | Permalink

    Langkard,

    Found a vid of Crook singing on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK5IFoHCgQk

  656. Nick Larter
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Mrs. H’ghar
    Posted July 6, 2012 at 11:50 pm | Permalink
    The Rabbit:
    Our friend and commenter Nick Larter came withidea the fit the most, I think.

    The role is one of the renegades at Crasters – and he is torturing Gilly.
    Everything fits: brother – father – truth.

    No, not Gilly, he said “take off HIS pants,” maybe Ramsay torturing Theon? Or the Goat torturing Jaime?

    I spotted that too, but I thought it might be from a separate scene – there’s a break in the clip after the ‘take off his pants’ part and before what I thought might be the ‘Gilly’ part.

    If it is all one scene, then there could be three characters in it, a (non-speaking) man, a woman and the protagonist, or maybe I’m just being thrown by the fact it’s a woman doing the responses in the clip.

    The two biggest clues are the lines (and I paraphrase) ‘you know what we do to runaways’ in the ‘pant’s bit and ‘I want to see my father, take me to him’ replied to by ‘he used to love you but he sent us’ ‘in the second bit. Which could in any case be unreliable narration.

    The Watch, The Bloody Mummers and Ramsay all do horrible things to runaways. The phrase about ‘the truth’ that comes up could refer to anything. Given by how much they’ve started to diverge from the books, nothing fits perfectly, but these groupings of two or three characters seem the most likely:-

    Watch renegade+Gilly+(also possibly Sam) with the father being Craster;
    Urswyck+Brienne and/or Jaime with the father being Tywin or Selwyn;
    Ramsay+random escaping woman and/or Theon with the father being the woman’s or Balon.

    To reiterate: for any of these to fit the dialogue perfectly there would need to be changes from the book. I’d still plump for the first of these three but it’s anything from clear cut.

  657. MATTHEW
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 5:47 am | Permalink

    This is unbelievably off topic, but i love how he says “take off his PANTS”

    I know GRRM is American, but does he ever use the word “pants” in the books? He usually says breeches, I think.

    I wish he found an excuse to word “pantaloons”

    That is all.

  658. Anvil
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Permalink
  659. Carne
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Ian McElhinney is back in season 3 I’ve been told.

  660. darquemode
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    I mean he has to be back doesn’t he? : /
    Let us hope this great news is accurate!

  661. Conor
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    That tweet about the Horse Ambulances has me excited but extremely worried we don’t have another “Luck” situation on our hands :(

  662. Carne
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Well, his agent seemed certain ;)

  663. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    The audition tape seems much more likely to be dialogue between Gilly and the Night’s Watch mutineers. The reference to (black) brothers, and her father, for starters.

    And we figured out the Bolger thing a couple days ago- she’s on another show, Once Upon a Time.

  664. Holbac
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Yes, and the “his pants” part refers to Samwell, it makes sense !

  665. Nick Larter
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    I’d say the horse ambulances are a prudent preventative safety measure, rather than indication of a problem. What scenes are we talking about here?
    Maybe Arya attempting to escape the BwB and later some of the action with the Hound outside The Twins – fast wagon driving, running Arya down

  666. Mirri Maz
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Spoiler TV has an article about an actor called Asim Ahmad being cast as Thoros, with tweets from the actor

    http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/07/game-of-thrones-season-3-is-asim-ahmad.html

  667. darquemode
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Mirri Maz,

    It is just tthe tweets posted up above in this thread. Nothing new.
    I summarized it as rumor and posted it.

  668. Mirri Maz
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Oh i didn’t think to check the main post to see if it was updated, my bad.

  669. MATTHEW
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Mirri Maz: Spoiler TV has an article about an actor called Asim Ahmad being cast as Thoros, with tweets from the actor http://www.spoilertv.com/2012/07/game-of-thrones-season-3-is-asim-ahmad.html

    I like the “from Boromir to Thor o’ Myr” line

  670. darquemode
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Mirri Maz,

    It’s hard to keep track of EVERYTHING in a thread with a few hundred comments much less 600+ comments!!! XD!

  671. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    A woman stumbled on Mackenzie Crook’s imdb page by way of “The Brother’s Grimm” and saw that GoT is now included “as rumored” Episode 3.1, but no character name listed. Does that make it a little more “official”?????

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0188871/

  672. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 7, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    No. Imdb is updated by fans like us, so it doesn’t affect official status.

  673. Currer Bell
    Posted July 8, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Long-time lurker; one-time poster

    One fears that this essay is not on-target for this thread and apologizes for the interruption but one has sought in vain for a more appropriate forum. One is a neophyte in posting to the internet and begs indulgence for a newbie, but the imminence of final decisions on casting and scripts for S3 and subsequent seasons, goads one into speaking on a matter close to one’s heart.

    An Open Letter to D & D

    Chers Amis:

    Admiration for your masterful transfer of a printed opus like A Song of Ice and Fire to a medium with such differing criteria leaves one speechless. That being said, there is a subject upon which you have exhibited a certain, shall we say, tone-deafness. Your taste in revealing feminine pulchritude is well established, but your eye for exhibiting the full extent of the masculine beau ideal, or, as D so elegantly expressed it, male junk, is sadly lacking. (However, allow one to express one’s undying gratitude for the restraint you exhibited in filming Robert Baratheon.) Unfortunately, your discretion failed you in other instances resulting in the unedifying sights of unprepossessing actors portraying traveling wine merchants or Iron Island princes or, more sadly, Hodor. (In this last case, fie, gentlemen, fie! *shakes head dispiritedly*)

    In hope of avoiding the repetition of like distressing instances, one would offer a few modest parameters, bearing in mind the American mot juste about the subtle difference between the word naked and the word nekkid.

    Let us begin with characters whom one would not ever want to see naked and in some cases only when wearing plate armor and helmets with closed visors:

    1. Tywin Lannister (In perhaps 4S, the location of the denouement of the Lannister familial dysfunction might tempt you into indiscretion. Please, sirs, listen to the better angels of your nature here and resist.)

    2. Varys (One assumes that this would necessitate the use of moneys from the CGI budget better spent on dragons, direwolves or white walkers.)

    3. Theon Greyjoy (Aprés Ramsey, see #2 above.)

    4. Joffrey Baratheon, Lord Baelish (No reflection on the actors’ physicality but their personifications of unrepentant villainy drives their eeew factors off the charts. )

    Now we come to the meat of the matter, characters one would fully appreciate seeing nekkid:

    1. Ser Jaime Lannister (While Ser Jaime is despicable, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau certainly isn’t. Hint: a bath scene would provide a golden opportunity.)

    2. Jaqen h’ghar (The ink-stained wretches who strayed far enough from canon to inflict a nekkid Ros upon us could partially redeem themselves by giving us Jaqen emergent from the pool of the Temple of the Many-Faced God.)

    3. Gendry (shirtless, res ipsa loquitur)

    4. Jorah Mormont (For mercy’s sake, get him out of that skirt.)

    5. Robb Stark (ASAP for obvious reasons.)

    6. Jon Snow (No cheap cheats, please, with Ygritte stripped bare and Jon with his trousers still on.)

    7. Khal Drogo (See #2 of this list.)

    Dearest D & D, thank you. For “Blackwater.” For “Baelor.” For the many times one has smiled and exclaimed “Yes!” One urges you to display your undoubted generosity of spirit, to collude with the compliant censors at HBO, and to throw the distaff portion of your audience a bone.

  674. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 8, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Currer Bell:
    Long-time lurker; one-time poster

    One fears that this essay is not on-target for this thread and apologizes for the interruption but one has sought in vain for a more appropriate forum.One is a neophyte in posting to the internet and begs indulgence for a newbie, but the imminence of final decisions on casting and scripts for S3 and subsequent seasons, goads one into speaking on a matter close to one’s heart.

    An Open Letter to D & D

    Chers Amis:

    Admiration for your masterful transfer of a printed opus like A Song of Ice and Fire to a medium with such differing criteria leaves one speechless.That being said, there is asubject upon which you have exhibited a certain, shall we say, tone-deafness.Your taste in revealing feminine pulchritude is well established, but your eye for exhibiting the full extent of the masculine beau ideal, or, as D so elegantly expressed it, male junk, is sadly lacking.(However, allow one to express one’s undying gratitude for the restraint you exhibited in filming Robert Baratheon.) Unfortunately, your discretion failed you in other instances resulting in the unedifying sights of unprepossessing actors portraying traveling wine merchants or Iron Island princes or, more sadly, Hodor.(In this last case, fie, gentlemen, fie! *shakes head dispiritedly*)

    In hope of avoiding the repetition of like distressing instances, one would offer a few modest parameters, bearing in mind the American mot juste about the subtle difference between the word naked and the word nekkid.

    Let us begin with characters whom one would not ever want tosee nakedand in some cases only when wearing plate armor and helmets with closed visors:

    1.Tywin Lannister(In perhaps 4S, the location of the denouement of the Lannister familial dysfunction might tempt you into indiscretion.Please, sirs, listen to the better angels of your nature here and resist.)

    2.Varys (One assumes that this would necessitate the use of moneys from the CGI budget better spent on dragons, direwolves or white walkers.)

    3.Theon Greyjoy (Aprés Ramsey, see #2 above.)

    4.Joffrey Baratheon, Lord Baelish(No reflection on the actors’ physicality but their personifications of unrepentant villainy drives their eeew factors off the charts. )

    Now we come to the meat of the matter, characters one would fully appreciate seeing nekkid:

    1.Ser Jaime Lannister (While Ser Jaime is despicable, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau certainly isn’t.Hint: a bath scene would provide a golden opportunity.)

    2.Jaqen h’ghar (The ink-stained wretches who strayed far enough from canon to inflict a nekkid Ros upon us could partially redeem themselves by giving us Jaqen emergent from the pool of the Temple of the Many-Faced God.)

    3.Gendry (shirtless, res ipsa loquitur)

    4.Jorah Mormont (For mercy’s sake, get him out of that skirt.)

    5.Robb Stark (ASAP for obvious reasons.)

    6.Jon Snow (No cheap cheats, please, with Ygritte stripped bare and Jon with his trousers still on.)

    7.Khal Drogo (See #2 of this list.)

    Dearest D & D, thank you.For “Blackwater.”For “Baelor.”For the many times one has smiled and exclaimed “Yes!”One urges you to display your undoubted generosity of spirit, to collude with the compliant censors at HBO, and to throw the distaff portion of your audience a bone.

    A woman likes how you think! Make it so D&D!

  675. MATTHEW
    Posted July 9, 2012 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    I try to follow GoT cast members’ tweets and found and potentially juicy bit from Mr. Conan Stevens:

    http://twitter.com/conanstevens/status/221812947259899905

    91 hours of flights in the last 3 weeks – probably means I am up to something interesting. I’ll let you know soon ;)

    I believe Stevens is Australian, and the flight from Australia to England or Ireland is an extremely long one, which might explain the comment about long flights.

    So has he been flying to Belfast to meet with producers about re-appearing Season 3???

  676. darquemode
    Posted July 9, 2012 at 2:29 am | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    I hope so, but dare not dream it…..

  677. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 9, 2012 at 2:55 am | Permalink

    Asim Ahmad has confirmed he’s in GoT in this tweet to Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson: https://twitter.com/asimaahmad/status/221995580984012802

  678. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 9, 2012 at 3:25 am | Permalink

    Michel:
    http://vimeo.com/45300802
    The Rabbit, just posted it on twitter, what the hell is this scene and who are the characters there ? The actor for me was excelent

    I wish I can hear the other person’s lines more clearly because I’m imagining Alfie there nailing it, omg. It’s not a scene from the books, but there is only one ‘runaway’ that I can think that fit those lines.
    Stuart Martin was in Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood, and that movie’s GoT crossover track record includes Mark Addy, Robert Pugh and Ralph Ineson. Ned Dennehy who auditioned for Vargo Hoat also played in it.

  679. darquemode
    Posted July 9, 2012 at 3:37 am | Permalink

    MoonCoffee,

    Nice catch!
    Nice to have a more definitive confirmation…. albeit still not HBO confirming him and the role to be played. At this point I assume he is Thoros though…..

    Ahmad tweeted “next month” so can we assume that the Arya scenes will not be filmed for a month or so after the start of filming? Robb and the Riverlands are first up then? I would think Bran’s arc would be filmed mostly in Belfast too, right?

    Wonder if HBO will try to keep a lid on the Reeds or if it will come out sooner in the filming season…. Not that it will stop the Thrones fans from sluething it out! XD

  680. Luana
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:48 am | Permalink

    Just saw the first episode of Sky’s new television series, Sinbad. I almost wish Elliot Knight weren’t playing the title role of Sinbad, because he is the PERFECT Daario.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk8qV7v9_Bs

  681. Bird
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Sarah Bolger was the perfect Margaery. Can’t see her as anything else besides maybe a Sand Snake.

  682. The Stannis Way
    Posted July 22, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Charlotte Hope = Roslin Frey. Her name very well might be Myranda in the show, but it would be spoilerish if they named her character insomuch as there should be legitimate suspense re: whether Edmure’s bride will be beautiful or hideous. You name the character and attach that picture to her, it will spoil the surprise Just a theory, but I think a strong one.

  683. liam
    Posted August 21, 2012 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Berric dondarrion the lightning lord was already cast and introduced by ned in the first season.

  684. Dornish rule
    Posted September 26, 2012 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Arianne Martell is the hottest chick in the books, she is 23, curvaceous, and Latina looking. I know HBO likes to hire British and European actors because they are starved and cheap, but, please, if HBO casts another surfboard-like pre-teen looking girl in the role of Arianne, I won’t watch this series anymore and will call a jihad against HBO because of it. I am tired of people that don’t read the books, as they are way better than the TV series can ever hope to be. Please, HBO, get some WOMAN (with a WOMANLY body) to play Arianne.

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