Filming Production

Filming on season three begins today

imageThe cameras are rolling over in Belfast today on season three of Game of Thrones. After a set photo leaked last week, we thought they may have started a bit early but it seems like that may have just been some prep work. Tweets from crew members such as Cat Taylor and Ryan Marshall indicate that filming begins today, as we originally reported. The director up first is Dan Minahan, who returns to the show after being absent last season.

In other news, the Independent is reporting that Liam Cunningham has signed a six year contract. Does this mean we are guaranteed six more seasons? In a word, no. The six year contract seems to be the standard “long term contract” for this show as most of the principal cast have signed on for six years. HBO still reserves the right to cancel the show at any time and terminate any remaining contracts. What it does mean is that Davos is alive and well and may remain so for quite some time.

Update: Today’s filming was in Ballyscullion Park, a historic home located in Bellaghy that has beautiful grounds, including wooded areas. This was confirmed today by their Twitter account.

“Finished filming in the woods today. Actors in medieval costume and lots of muddy tech people around.”

Update: Some bad news: Clive Mantle will not be returning as the Greatjon in season three, according to his agent (via commenter Carne).

Winter Is Coming: And so it begins. Looking forward to getting reports and other whispers from the set. Also glad to see Liam is in it for the long haul! He is a great asset to the show, both on screen and off.

193 Comments

  • Hope they’re shooting some of the scenes from the flooded Riverlands chapters, because it’s been raining solidly here (Belfast) for about two months, now. Everywhere is flooded! Hope the weather doesn’t have the same effect as it had on last year’s shoot.

  • Sweet! Great to see Liam Cunnigham in for the long haul as well. Although non-reader fans reading this will realize that he is still alive.

    Now bring on the casting news. The lack of information on this suggests that the Bush Head fiasco has made HBO tight lipped about news from the production. They want to control all information coming from the set for the time being.

  • Clive Mantle is not back as Greatjon :( Got an e-mail from his agent:

    Sadly, when filming series 2 came about, Clive was pre booked to appear in another television series and was not free for the shooting dates for Game of Thrones as the dates clashed.

    He has not been asked back for series three sadly.

  • Carne,

    hate it when this happens. surely when they cast him they should have checked if he had future scheduling conflicts and then looked elsewhere. i love greatjon and wasnt happy he was absent in season two and now this has made it worse. either he gets recast which is such a continuity killer or they cut him from the show entirely. “hey guys wheres that guy who proclaimed robb king in the north?” “oh he got demoted to latrine digger so we dont need to see him anymore” SHITBALLS!!!!

  • Carne:
    Clive Mantle is not back as Greatjon :( Got an e-mail from his agent:

    A man will not see Game of Thrones anymore

  • Ugh, too bad about Clive Mantle not returning any time soon. I was hoping he’d be present at the RW. They’d better have Maege Mormont back this season or I’ll be a reaaaally sad panda.

  • What’s with this childish attitude people saying they won’t watch the show just because an actor doens’t come back ? Seriously grow the fuck up and realise that it’s not the producers fault, this is television and stuff like this happens sometimes, you should have known that .

  • Your update is a bit spoilerific for non-readers.

    I am sure they will just recast the GJ, not write him out of the story.

  • I hope that means further plot armor for Davos.
    As for Season 3… think about it: the Doctor has seen it already. Oh, and read TWOW and ADOS. But he can’t tell what happens.

  • Claudiu Gherganu:
    What’s with this childish attitude people saying they won’t watch the show just because an actor doens’t come back? Seriously grow the fuck up and realise that it’s not the producers fault, this is television and stuff like this happens sometimes, you should haveknown that .

    LOL, wtf, you taked it seriously ? You really thaught that I will not see GOT because Greatjon is not back ? Of course not, it was an expression..I loved the actor so I was kidding that I will not see GoT anymore because of this

  • But…if they really want Greatjon in Season 3..i don’t cast again Clive ? If he wasn’t been called, I think it’s not gonna be a Greatjon at all, because will would they recast ? Clive was great in Season 1

  • The Great Jon can easily be written out (died in battle) and his role replaced by his son from thereon. The storyline for the Umbers in AFFC and ADWD can remain the same but who is say how much the TV series actually will cover. There are enough families to cover as is.

  • Claudiu Gherganu:
    What’s with this childish attitude people saying they won’t watch the show just because an actor doens’t come back? Seriously grow the fuck up and realise that it’s not the producers fault, this is television and stuff like this happens sometimes, you should haveknown that.

    What’s with this childish attitude of berating anyone who says something you disagree with? Seriously grow the fuck up and realize that opinions differ.

  • Shame about Mr Mantle. He didn’t seem needed in season 2 anyway, but I had assumed he’d be back for season 3, for pretty obvious reasons. A certain extremely important/awesome episode will be a little bit less than what it could have been, without him. :(

  • Maybe the lack of Greatjon in S3 just means, that RW will be pushed to S4 (which is highly unlikely, tho … due to the Tullys being cast). On the other hand, he doesn’t have A LOT of stuff to do this season … so I guess he could still make a cameo.

  • Not happy to hear the Greatjon won’t be back..strange that his agent said that he wasn’t invited back for season 3, I guess D/D weren’t too happy with him or his schedule ?..bring on the other casting announcements, they’re way overdue..

  • Claudiu Gherganu,

    ha! good. cretins are easy to annoy. question 1, where did i say i would not watch the show? question 2, did you actually read the part where i said that they should have checked if he had future contracts and commitments? no? ok bye bye then! illiterate fool.

  • Coltaine777:
    Not happy to hear the Greatjon won’t be back..strange that his agent said that he wasn’t invited back for season 3, I guess D/D weren’t too happy with him or his schedule ?..bring on the other casting announcements, they’re way overdue..

    I wouldn’t attribute any punitive aspect to it. Not saying it isn’t possible as I don’t know these people at all or the situation but it could simply be that since the audience hasn’t seen him for a while, they don’t want to bother to re-introduce.

  • Dammit, bring back Greatjon, one of the best minor characters in the book. And they can’t just kill him off, who knows what GRRM has planned for him later on.

    I want to see Greatjon in action *shakes his fist in anger*

  • glenn:
    Claudiu Gherganu,

    ha! good. cretins are easy to annoy. question 1, where did i say i wouldnt watch the show? question 2, did you actually read the part where i said that they should have checked if he had future contracts and commitments? no ok bye bye then. illiterate fool.

    One, most actors don’t know what they are doing a year and a half from when they cast. Two, there’s no season two shooting schedule a year and a half from when they cast.Two, there’s no room in the budget for locking up minor characters and no room to be adjusting shooting schedules for them.

    I’m no fan of belligerent responses (though I, like everyone, sometimes make them), but your comment was both critical and ignorant at the same time, and that generally rubs people the wrong way.

    Locking up Mantle in summer 2010 for the entirety fall of 2011 wasn’t really an option.

  • hey alan nice post. but i disagree. in the initial greatjon post its stated that the actor was already pre booked for the season 2 shooting. so he could easily be pre booked for got OR not be cast at all if he had potential conflicts. and my original post was meant in jest and to be swore at has wound me up. theb comes the belligerence. simples.

  • God damnit….really wanted to see Greatjon back! He was my favorite season 1 character after Ned!

    I don’t think anyone would be able to match his bad ass accent and mannerisms, so please, don’t recast him.

  • I’m with the group – we need more casting news. I thought we had a whole slew of new characters for Season 3, yet we haven’t heard much of anything beyond Shireen, the Blackfish and some auditions. Hadn’t we heard more before Season 2 filming started last year?

    And, after casting news, we want Winds of Winter news. ;=)

  • While I’m very sad to see that the Greatjon won’t be returning any time soon, as he was one of my favorite bit-parts of Season 1, I don’t think it will really impact the show all that much. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain Greatjon Umber doesn’t really do much during the RW and we only hear anecdotally about how the Freys tried to get him so drunk he couldn’t fight in the epilogue to ASOS.

  • Very sad about the Clive Mantle thing. I really loved how in book 3 he slew a bunch of people while beeing drunk as hell at the RW, would have been bad ass in the show. Also he was so loyal to Robb and he is still allive – I still want to see him kick some ass.
    Nevertheless I understand that there will allways be some problems with such a massive TV production and I am sure we will get some great scenes anyway.

  • I hope they don’t recast the Greatjon, just have him be mentioned a few times…

    Nothing is worse than recasting :(

  • I suppose if we don’t get the greatjon we might get the smalljon instead to do his part at the RW sort of a oh no the greatjon has been killed fighting lannister’s ah well here’s his son of similar height and build who does nothing at the red wedding so he can do the killing people drunk thing instead

  • I was looking forward to seeing the Greatjon return, very disappointed. Would rather they give an excuse for his absence than recast though, recasting is too jarring. As we saw with Gregor (wish they’d had Ian Whyte play a different Lannister bannerman and just brought back Gregor when Conan Stevens was available). Please don’t recast the Greatjon!

  • Very disappointing about the Greatjon. Seems like such a huge waste to introduce such a great character only to cut him off. I love the show and all, but sometimes I just have to shake my head at some of the decisions the creators make.

  • Glad that filming has started. Glad that Liam will be our Davos. Glad that Clive’s agent feels sad (twice) that he will not be back, and not bitter like Conan seemed. I’m so glad, I’m so glad, I’m glad, I’m glad, I’m glad.

    Now I don’t know what to do…

  • Claudiu Gherganu: What’s with this childish attitude people saying they won’t watch the show just because an actor doens’t come back ? Seriously grow the fuck up and realise that it’s not the producers fault, this is television and stuff like this happens sometimes, you should have known that .

    Ugh. /rolleyes. Moving on..

    Greatjon not coming back really sucks balls. I missed him in season 2 and if him not being in season 3 sucks. If RW gets pushed back to season 4, theres still hope for more Greatjon, unlikely, but still hope. Maybe they can cast a Smalljon and have some sort of quick line stating that he is Greatjon’s son and explaining his absence. Perhaps explain that he died or something, and have Smalljon take Greatjon’s badass role during the RW. That’s unlikely too though. It’s looking like Greatjon’s RW moment is probably going to get the axe.

    I vote for curtain call on Greatjon Umber (and Spice King too! Seriously, you guys snubbed the best minor character of season 2!)

  • MRR,

    The announcement doesn’t say anything about the GJ not returning. It merely says the actor playing the role won’t be. Why does everyone assume they will now cut the character rather than just recast him? Big burley loud guy with a beard…shouldn’t be hard to find, it isn’t like he had many lines, heck Lord Karstark said more than the GJ.

  • Hmm…

    1. Good thing about April 2013: leaving the job I hate.
    2. Bad thing about April 2013: emigrating for at least 3 years.

    GoT S3 may tip the scale and make April 2013 a good time!

  • “YOUR MEAT….. is bloody tough!” We’ll miss ya Greatjon…. Don’t recast, no one can match Clive’s epic portrayal.

    Excited season 3 starts filming today! Although they’ve probably already filmed since in Belfast they are hours ahead of the U.S.

  • Eh Greatjon … big deal. What’s one big old guy with a beard compared to another big old guy with a beard, really?

  • Sucks about the Greatjohn, but good to hear they’ve locked up Cunningham for multiple seasons.

    If anyone wants to see a super intense movie, I’d recommend “Hunger”. It’s about the story of IRA member/English prisoner Bobby Sands, and the hunger strike that killed him, starring Michael Fassbender as Bobby Sands. Liam Cunningham plays Bobby’s priest, and he’s REALLY good. Again, it’s a pretty intense movie, not for the faint of heart. A lot of people can’t handle it, because of how realistic it is. So, keep that in mind before you watch it with grandma.

  • Where is the “like” button?

    KG:
    Eh Greatjon … big deal. What’s one big old guy with a beard compared to another big old guy with a beard, really?

  • Could you email the copy of the Game of Thrones buudget you seem tp know so much about?

    Alan: One, most actors don’t know what they are doing a year and a half from when they cast.Two, there’s no season two shooting schedule a year and a half from when they cast.Two, there’s no room in the budget for locking up minor characters and no room to be adjusting shooting schedules for them.

    I’m no fan of belligerent responses (though I, like everyone, sometimes make them), but your comment was both critical and ignorant at the same time, and that generally rubs people the wrong way.

    Locking up Mantle in summer 2010 for the entirety fall of 2011 wasn’t really an option.

  • That is ENOUGH of the personal sniping back and forth. Reread the rules of moderation linked above if anyone is unclear on the matter.

  • The next 2 seasons are going to be AMAZING. Re-reading SoS and it’s hard to put down. So full of action and great character moments. Splitting it into two seasons will allow a great pace and much more coverage of book content than last season. April 2013 can’t come soon enough.

  • Ugh. Let’s try this again. I wonder if other shit will still be there. I have a sneaking suspicion about the answer….

    KG:
    Eh Greatjon … big deal. What’s one big old guy with a beard compared to another big old guy with a beard, really?

    I think Tormund will help to fill that void of gigantic bearded awesomeness. Speaking of which…Ron Perlman!

  • The Kingslayer,

    I don’t much care about that, either. She’s a side story, and doing well with the material provided to her. I have zero complaints about Yara.

  • Well, now that shooting has wrapped for The Hobbit, they can bring Conan back to play Greatjon! Everybody wins!

  • Awww.. That Greatjon news really is too bad. Clive Mantle brings charisma to the screen that will be sorely missed in the Robb scenes of season 3.. Also, I fear this might bode ill for other minor characters, if they just dissappear into thin air. Not including him in season 2, looking back, makes sense, but just getting rid of him without even mentioning what happened to him seems a shame..

    Again, too bad.. But hey, maybe we’ll get to see the Mormont girls some more?

  • Carne,

    since you’ve been checking with the agents if their actors will return for this season (great news re: Josef Altin, sad news re: Clive Mantle), could you please do the same with Gemma Whelan if it’s not too much trouble? I want more of Yara!

    Thanks, man! : )

  • OK someone who understands more about how TV filming works than I do might like to give me guidance on this. We know from the Twittersphere that Arya, Gendry, Hot Pie and Philip McGinley are all in NI filming today.

    Is it reasonable to deduce from that, assuming they have one shooting unit filming one plot at a time, that McGinley is a character interacting with those three – therefore Beric most likely, or is that an unreasonable deduction because they could have several units and/or plots filming simultaneously?

    Help please!

  • Nick Larter,

    They’re not necessarily together. There’s filming in Bellaghy, and there can be filming going on at any time in the indoor studios they use in Belfast.

  • Ser Lyonel the Laughing Storm:
    No Greatjon pre-order canceled

    Yes; time to organize bring-back-Clive-Mantle-and-Conan-Stevens boycott.

    Of course I won’t be joining it; I love the show too much, even though I think Ian Whyte should go back to playing a Whyte Walker. And he can play Robert Strong too, but we want Stevens for the Mountain!

  • MATTHEW,

    I may be mistaken, but I believe it was Stevens who chose the Hobbit over GoT. Recasting him was necessary. Yes Ian does not have the same girth, but his voice resonated and he certainly is tall enough to pull off the role.

  • I’m so sad to hear about Clive Mantle. The Greatjon is one of GoT’s best charactars both in the books and in the series, and Mantle played him amazingly.

    I sincerly hope that we could atleast get an offical response as for why didn’t D&D seek Mantle for 3rd season.. Hopefully they will hold a Q&A sometime soon.

    I don’t recasting is possible. considering how bad Ian Whyte was as Conan Ste- sorry, as Gregor Clegane- they might aswell cut him. I dont know, I can’t see this working out correctly.

    I’m guessing that a petition is too late, considering shooting has started?

  • Michel: A man will not see Game of Thrones anymore

    A woman asks a man to be reasonable. The Greatjon had a couple of great scenes, but since then in the show there have been multiple battles where he could have been gravely injured. He could be holding a distant holdfast. But in real life, actors must make plans for work and D&D surely do not have it in the budget to give every minor character a 6-year contract.

    Edit: Now I have read a man’s subsequent comments and knows he will not leave us. We must all be reasonable about real life situations that prevent cast members from returning.

  • No Greatjon? Nooooooo! :(

    On a different note, I can hardly believe they’re already filming Season3 . It feels like they just started filming Season 2 (with leaked photo’s of Robb’s camp). Hell, I still remember the filming of the pilot like it was yesterday.

  • Rygar,

    Conan said that the producers wanted to go “into a different direction” with the Mountain character … or something like that. Tbh, I’m still not entirely sure what to make of it. I hope he’ll be back for THE fight, however, I don’t think we’ll see any of the Martells in S3. Not sure if Gregor Clegane has anything else to do without them. Anything else that’s important, that is.
    (((On the other hand, they could just continue with Whyte … the only problem previous season was, imo, that they didn’t use the pauldrons. Actually, the fight should be the least of our concern, since the Mountain will be (or should be) fully armored.)))

  • Ian Whyte had barely any screen time; I don’t get the hate. It’s a small part. He did fine.

    I asked Ballyscullion Park about which area they were shooting at (Ballyscullion is a grand home with surrounding grounds.) They responded:
    “Finished filming in the woods today. Actors in medieval costume and lots of muddy tech people around.”

  • Rygar:
    MATTHEW,

    I may be mistaken, but I believe it was Stevens who chose the Hobbit over GoT. Recasting him was necessary.Yes Ian does not have the same girth, but his voice resonated and he certainly is tall enough to pull off the role.

    I didn’t claim that Stevens was unfairly booted from the show, and I don’t hate Whyte in the role–as a fan, I just thought Stevens was perfect and that Whyte is a huge step down. He has the voice, but not the look of primitive, twisted rage on his face that the Mountain needs.

  • Ours is the Fury:
    Ian Whyte had barely any screen time; I don’t get the hate. It’s a small part. He did fine.

    I don’t get the “hate” either but I certainly get the preference for season 1 actor.

    Whyte’s tiny amount of screen time is all the more reason why they should have just cut the Mountain altogether from Season 2 until they could figure a way to bring Stevens back.

    And if I may speak for others on the pro-Stevens camp, our main concern with Whyte as the Mountain is that when it comes time for a certain climactic scene to take place, that we fear Whyte won’t be able to convey the savage emotion and violence that Stevens could.

  • my missus has been casually watching the show and she knows nothing of the books and tbf she didnt even notice that the actor had changed who played gregor.

  • MATTHEW,

    Pretty much. Until his big scene, he’s not much of a factor in the story. So to have a less-than-ideal guy filling it in the periphery of the story is not much of an issue. But that one scene, that ought to be a big, memorable, potentially amazing scene, and I’m sure Conan Stevens would have done wonders.

    Whyte just doesn’t have the same menace. He could play the character in the…um, aftermath, of it, though.

  • glenn:
    my missus has been casually watching the show and she knows nothing of the books and tbf she didnt even notice that the actor had changed who played gregor.

    Funny–my sister who wants nothing to do with the books but is a casual fan of the show totally noticed.

    She even claimed that the new Gregor was “handsome” and was very confused.

  • The Rabbit,

    That’s what I was thinking. Either Arya or possibly Bran and co. travelling. But then again what about Brienne/Jaime? Maybe even Robb has a scene in the woods. There’s too many people that could be in the woods!

  • andrea,

    No don’t worry read all five, know what’s coming. Already hate his guts! Me saying he sucks ass has nothing to do with the actor its just the type of character he is. I much prefer the loud-I’m-laughing-cause-a-wolf-bit-off-my-fingers-boisterous loyal and fearless type than the cold, cruel and calculating ones. Must be why I liked RObert Baratheon so much.

  • A woman is sorry to see that Greatjon won’t be back, but being realistic about actors who weren’t signed on for 6 years – if the guy got another gig we have to accept that. The fact that he was so memorable with only 3 or 4 lines is a testament to his charisma and skills. Huzzah Clive! We shall look for you wherever you go.

    Sure would love to see more casting news though! McGinley has to be either Ramsay or Berric. It is known. ; – 0

  • Shinyteapot,

    Conan Stevens wasn’t recast because he was busy with the Hobbit, he was recast because D@D wanted to go in a different direction. Apparently a skinny Mountain is scarier than a muscle bound freak who chops horses in two and makes it believable.

  • 92% of what we worry about does not come true. Let’s just wait and see if Whyte can pull off that fight scene.

    Zack:
    MATTHEW,

    Pretty much. Until his big scene, he’s not much of a factor in the story. So to have a less-than-ideal guy filling it in the periphery of the story is not much of an issue. But that one scene, that ought to be a big, memorable, potentially amazing scene, and I’m sure Conan Stevens would have done wonders.

    Whyte just doesn’t have the same menace. He could play the character in the…um, aftermath, of it, though.

  • The Rabbit,

    Do you think we’ll get Lem Lemoncloack, Tom of Sevenstreams, Harwin and Anguy the Archer? I wonder if the members of the BWB will be named at all.

  • Did D&D actually state this, or was this what Stevens posted on his blog as to why he was not in S2? I seem to recall reading that Stevens chose to do the Hobbit and would not have time to shoot S2, then posting a rant about D&D “going in a different direction.” Thanks.

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Shinyteapot,

    Conan Stevens wasn’t recast because he was busy with the Hobbit, he was recast because D@D wanted to go in a different direction. Apparently a skinny Mountain is scarier than a muscle bound freak who chops horses in two and makes it believable.

  • Rygar,

    Conan actually left a message on his blog about why he won’t be reappearing in season 2. He also stated that to play the Mountain was a dream come true and that he was very disspointed not being able to return, and yes he explicitly said the part about D@D going in a different direction. I remember because I was very sad for him.

  • Hey people, i talk to Gemma (Yara/Asha) on twitter, telling her that she was great, bla bla, and if she will return for S3 or the Greyjoys will only appear again on S4..and she just answered me with a “thanks”..i think it’s because she won’t appear and she doesn’t said nothing..but it’s only a thaught, not confirmed.

    “Michel Carvalho ‏@MichelCVG
    @WhelanGemma Gemma, you’re great on this season you’ll be back for S3 on GoT or the greyjoys will only return on S4 ?”

    “10 h Gemma Whelan ‏@WhelanGemma
    @MichelCVG thanks very much :)”

  • Lol my previous post about pre order canceled was a joke in truth despite how perfect Clive was for the role he sealed his own fate by turning down season 2

  • The Instrumentalist,

    Drat!
    I was hoping the filming being done might help to narrow the roles certain cast actors may have. If McGinley was filming and it was a Robb scene being filmed he could be Edmure easily, but of course if they are filming Arya and the BwoB then McGinley could be Beric too.

    So I guess we have to wait a bit longer for role confirmation…… sigh.

  • Thanks. It all doesn’t really matter now anyway. I just thought that was Stevens’ way of saying peace out. I dont recall reading or hearing directly from D&D that it was their decision to not ask him back. It was all second hand from Stevens. To me, i just dont see how he could have filmed both at the same time and he chose a film that will probably be ranked as one of the greatest of all time and be seen by more people than the HBO series.

    Aegon the Conqueror,

  • Hi-Fi,

    Do not know – we ll have to see. I am not expect that they gonna give a name to every single BWB – too much names to TV medium at once.
    (Something similar they did with the NW)

  • Ok if he allows us to take his fingers we can accept him back as for Conan his time is done sorry but let no man claim ignorance

  • Aegon the Conqueror, Conan’s comment was written vaguely enough that it could well have meant “I asked if they could work around my Hobbit filming schedule but they didn’t want to.” That’s what a lot of us concluded from it, anyway — that Conan hoped to do both, but that he was halfway across the world for most of filming time, and that D&D decided they didn’t want to structure their entire Harrenhal filming schedule around Conan.

  • They could shoot literally any storyline in the woods. The location doesn’t help much.

    And this:
    “Going in a different direction” is entertainment business-speak for “they don’t want you anymore but they don’t want to publicly discuss why.” We have no idea what happened, whether it was scheduling or attitude or money, but really it’s not our business. It’s between Stevens and D&D, and I think it’s kinda lame to put down Ian Whyte is doing a perfectly good job just because people are unrealistically hoping Stevens will be asked back.

  • Ross,

    Elio said it wasn’t Vargo, and I believe him over EW’s passing on of rumors that WiC started with our spec post. :)

  • Michel: Hey people, i talk to Gemma (Yara/Asha) on twitter, telling her that she was great, bla bla, and if she will return for S3 or the Greyjoys will only appear again on S4..and she just answered me with a “thanks”..i think it’s because she won’t appear and she doesn’t said nothing..but it’s only a thaught, not confirmed.“Michel Carvalho ‏@MichelCVG@WhelanGemma Gemma, you’re great on this season you’ll be back for S3 on GoT or the greyjoys will only return on S4 ?”“10 h Gemma Whelan ‏@WhelanGemma@MichelCVG thanks very much :)”

    The Greyjoys aren’t really in Storm of Swords, so I can see them left out, at least for this upcoming season. I’m expecting them to return in season 4 though, as I think the Kingsmoot will be pushed up to mesh more with the latter events of Storm of Swords. Despite those scenes being in Feast for Crows, chronologically they happen before the end of Storm of Swords.

  • Ours is the Fury,
    Real talk Nu Mountian is great looks more like he would be Sandors brother and he’s way taller, we had what one scene with Conan and hes the end all be all Mountain the role is just uuntouchable, piss on that

  • Ours is the Fury: I think it’s kinda lame to put down Ian Whyte is doing a perfectly good job just because people are unrealistically hoping Stevens will be asked back.

    I agree, Ian Whyte did just fine. I think he just gets a lot of hate thrown around his direction because he isn’t as physically fitting for the role, not so much for his acting (which as you have pointed out, is barely on display). While I agree that Stevens had the better physique, I think it’s silly to label Whyte as “skinny”. A certain infamous poster’s comment on how he could “snap him in half with one tackle” comes to mind. I’m pretty sure if you were stand next to Ian Whyte, you’d realize he is a lot bulkier than just about anyone that posts on this site.

  • Michel,

    Thanks, but I don’t think that means she won’t be back to Season 3, just that she can’t talk about it. Let’s see if we can get any confirmation with her agent.

    I can easily see they showing Balon’s death by the end of this season, including Yara’s reaction.

    Meanwhile, someone should find out with Kate Dickie’s agent if she’s returning, that would give us a bit of light on Littlefinger’s direction this season.

  • Ours is the Fury,

    Is it possible HBO could have asked him to say that as a favour to keep people off the scent? Or am I over-speculating? :-) I just think he’d be perfect as Vargo and I however hard I try I can’t see him as one of the other key roles. Beric maybe just about but not Mance. Anyway, I know this has been discussed ad nauseum so please carry on!

  • Ross,

    I wish he was Vargo too but I don’t think Elio would flat-out lie to his posters at Westeros. Be vague, maybe, but not deliberately lie.

  • Vanderhook,

    Agreed.
    Not only that, but let’s be honest….. Fight scenes are as much if not MORE about the editing and filming than about who the combatants are. The Season 1 battle between Clegane brothers appeared a bit stiff and methodical and that had Conan Stevens in it!

    I always blamed it on the editing personally, but that just makes my point for me…

  • Ours is the Fury,

    I don’t hate Ian Whyte, he did a good job with what he was given. And his voice is great. What I dislike is recasting in general- I know sometimes it’s necessary, but I think in this situation Gregor’s storyline could have been given to a different Lannister bannerman (who could be played by Whyte, no reason why not), with the odd mention of ‘Gregor Clegane is burning villages’ to keep him in people’s minds.

    If Stevens is definitely not to return, for whatever reason, Gregor’s future scenes could all be done by a stuntman in full armour- he’d wear his helm when fighting, and we know he wears it all the time afterwards.

    Given they did go with the recast, I find it odd that Gregor wore normal Lannister armour. Using his series 1 armour would have made his identity obvious, made him stand out, and given the impression of a bulkier man. It worked on the stuntman in series 1. I don’t get the impression Gregor is the sort of man to have special armour for tournaments (like Loras), making the tank suit his normal fighting wear would work fine. The change of appearance would have been less obvious then.

  • Shinyteapot,

    Many of the fighters wear their own personal armor when fighting, like Jaime does- he wears Lannister armor several times and not Kingsguard stuff. It makes sense Gregor would wear his own stuff in a tourney, and the Lannister arms for uniformity when he’s riding under Tywin and his banner.

  • Rygar,

    Yes although no one will recognise him, Orc make up will do that. On a seperate note, funny how their casting Azog the GOblin king as an orc that will make most Uruk-Hai look small.

  • Vanderhook,

    Not that I’m saying it was me who said that, but I get paid to tackle guys his size only heavier! They grow em big here in South Africa.
    That being said, I have nothing against Ian Whyte, his voice sounded awesome, but yes he just does not have that bulk Stevens had. But I know ishing Stevens returns is a pipe dream. Maybe they can just digitally edit him to make him a bit bulkier, or maybe a body suit beneath his armour.
    When Tywin ask “are you going soft Clegane?” I had to laugh! I was like “duh look at him!”

  • It is statements like these that give me nerd boners. :)

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Rygar,

    Yes although no one will recognise him, Orc make up will do that. On a seperate note, funny how their casting Azog the GOblin king as an orc that will make most Uruk-Hai look small.

  • Ours is the Fury,

    If I was a book purist I would point out that Clegane wears his black armour when fighting for the Lannisters.
    That being said I am not a book purist and it didn’t bother me much that he was wearing Lannister armour. THe only thing that does bother me is cept for Tywin’s red sash there is no way to tell who in the army are knights or officers.

  • Aegon the Conqueror,

    I know. I mean it makes sense visually for them to dress him like the Lannisters when he’s with them.

    And I did say before I wasn’t a book purist. :)

  • Ours is the Fury,

    That makes perfect sense, but given how important visuals are on TV, if it were up to me I’d have kept Gregor in his personal armour to make him easier to recognise. His brother gets away with it!

  • Good to know. I wonder if the JRR crowd is in uproar over casting Conan as the Goblin King due to the very reason as you posted about being taller than the Uruk Hai like some GRRM fans are with Ian as Gregor?

    Aegon the Conqueror,

  • I’m very angry about the Greatjon being dropped just like that. Yeah, I know it only says that the actor hasn’t been asked back, but seriously, as there was no reason to not ask Mantle back for season 3 the character is obviously getting axed. Nevermind the role he might play in the later books, “lol less mouths to pay”. I’m really looking forward to season 6 (if the show ever makes it that far), because I suspect it will have nothing in common with the books anymore.

  • Sad about Clive Mantle. he was excellent! I can’t imagine that the replacement will be as good.

  • Ours is the Fury,

    I know that’s why I felt obligated to state it :-) I just wonder though if it wouldn’t have been bteer to go the same route with him as they did with Amory lorch. Lannister pauldrons, greaves helmet etc, but own personal breastplate.

    Rygar

    Nope, I’m a JRR fan, have been long before I even heard of GoT. THey are not too much bothered by it. I’m thinking Azog might just be Uruk-Hai and he is ruling the Goblins because of his size. In the book he is described as being huge. And also remember, this was written way before Lord of the Rings and many of the “rules” weren’t there then. In fact Uruk-Hai weren’t even invented yet. Just goblins or hobgoblins (bigger orcs). JRR even had to rewrite several parts of the Hobbit to fit in the LOTR.

  • Couple of days ago I decided to send some e-mails to actors I’d like to see in GoT. One of them is Graham McTavish and his agent responded with:

    Thank you for your interest in Graham McTavish and we are major fans of Game of Thrones. Graham is still in New Zealand and as of now should be done approx beginning of August.

    What do you have in mind for Graham with the Game of Thrones?
    Any more details etc…..

    Please let me know.

    Now I’ll have to find some roles he’d fit for :P

  • Real TC,

    Why of course? Bringing him back for season 3 wouldn’t have hurt. It was completely ok to leave the character out for one season to introduce other northmen like Bolton and Karstark. He could have easily reprised the role in season 3 and then be gone for god knows how long.

  • I could totally see Crook as Ramsay. He doesn’t look the part exactly, but he’s got a wild-eyed thing going that, while usually comedic, could easily turn scary.

  • Carne,

    I’m thinking Bryden Rivers, the Bloodraven. Assuming of course the Three eyed Crow is Bryden.

  • Aegon the Conqueror,

    Conan Stevens was originally cast as Azog (who’ll only appear in flashbacks if they follow the book), but was later moved to a bigger role; Bolg, who is the son of Azog and will be the big bad villain in the second Hobbit movie.

  • Carne,

    Point being, he is one big ass Goblin! Can’t wait to see him in the role though, that man scares me!

  • Carne:
    Couple of days ago I decided to send some e-mails to actors I’d like to see in GoT. One of them is Graham McTavish and his agent responded with:

    Now I’ll have to find some roles he’d fit for :P

    A woman thinks he could be Tormund Giantsbane or Varmyr Sixskins with ease. Or Cotter Pyke (NW at Eastwatch, have we seen him yet?) or Iron Emmet (NW ranger) or Ser Denys Mallister (NW Shadow Tower), or Mace Tyrell, Lord of Highgarden! If Blackfish is being cast, he will need Lords bannermen too, so there’s a bunch of those. But he looks like a wildling to this woman!

  • Carne,

    No good deed goes unpunished I always say….

    I like McTavish, I remember him from 24.

    I can see him as a role that may not be cast… Lem Lemoncloak. He has that fierce look associated with Lem…
    Maybe the upcoming Arys Oakheart? Personality wise I think he fits if not physically exactly… Same wth Randall Tarly maybe. Bowen Marsh maybe?

    No one really jumps to mind, but I will keep him in mind when I start my re-read…..

  • darquemode,

    I like the idea of Randyll Tarly, certainly can see him telling Sam that nothing would please him more than to kill him in the woods.

  • McTavish is known to be playing angry/fierce/badass/cocky characters, so something close to that :P

  • Vanderhook,

    One of the things I like about the idea of a TV adaptation is they have the freedom to do more than the text. I would hope that we wouldn’t be able to know for certain a specific actor/character would or would not be in the TV series based solely upon their presence or lack thereof in the book.

    Surely there is something to show regarding the ironborn in the third/fourth seasons.

  • Carne,

    The other character aside from Lem that came to mind imediately was Victarion like Joshua Taylor mentioned… I see one of the Mikkelsen brothers in the role so I did not suggest it, but he could definitely work.

    Maybe one of the men sent along with Quentyn Martell to Essos? If I recall Archibald Yronwood is big, bald and bad…. Although he may be more of big than just strong.

    Maybe Hyle Hunt could work too. If they keep him like in the books he would be around for most of the Brienne scenes in a later season… I don’t recall his appearance other than a scar by his eye (which is easily added if necessary even).

  • darquemode,

    He’s been cast by Nina Gold as well. He was one of Erastes Fulman’s thugs in Rome. Pullo fucks him up if I recall. He was also Desmond Hume’s scots drill instructor on Lost.

  • RTH758P:
    Could you email the copy of the Game of Thrones buudget you seem tp know so much about?

    Of course I don’t have the budget. What I have is a little bit of knowledge and a lot of common sense. You have to pay to guarantee someone keeps time open, and a budget is a budget. It’s not unlimited. There are a million and one tradeoffs. Guaranteeing the return of a minor character might be less time for the dragon or wolf on screen; less shoot time for a particular scene, a slightly lower profile director or actor somewhere else.

    Could they have locked down the actor? Probably. Was it worth it? It’s never free, and I think it’s a much better assumption to say the people who are running the show made a choice between things, and it’s ridiculous to assume that it was some kind of “oh, we never thought of that” or “oh, man, we forgot to ask him if he’s busy!” mistake instead of simply a choice.

  • Just a heads up, but the annual Tubey Awards are going on over a Television Without Pity. Get over there and vote for Game of Thrones (or anything else you’d like to vote for)!

  • Joshua Taylor,

    Oh I remember him now!
    That series and role did not jump to mind, but can picture him now towards the end of Season 1…. He was Pullo’s handler on his first job for Erastes

    Speaking of Rome and of Brynden Rivers that someone mentioned… I always pictured someone like Simon Woods or Paul Bettany as Bloodraven…

  • If I got my hand bit half off, I wouldn’t come back either!!! ;-)

    Seriously though, I’m going to miss Clive Mantle as GreatJon Umber. Count me as one who is against the role being re-cast. (Still not used to the new Gregor Clegane!) This is another of those actors I’d never heard of before (which isn’t saying much, my knowledge of European actors is practically nil) but one that I’ve come to appreciate so much for bringing a character amazingly to life.

    BUT! If they were to re-cast, is there any chance they could get Clancy Brown in the role? ;-) (I just want to see more Clancy Brown!)

  • darquemode,

    I do hope they keep Ser Hyle. I always remember Brienne describing him as having an honest face. If they cut him, her journey will be a little too quiet… I doubt her and Pod are going to talk much, lol. Plus it’s another reason for Brienne to betray Jaime. To save his life, I mean.

  • Carne,

    Ha!

    I would guess they will film the Night’s Watch scenes later in the filming period, so he may be able to latch onto a role for this season there, but it is hard not knowing where the cut-off point in the book will be.

    I wonder if McTavish can portray a certain one-armed blacksmith? XD
    I can see him fitting into the Watch easily, but no role jumps out as perfect I guess.

  • Was Kit filming today? Bad first day back if he was, sounds like he broke his ankle. I wonder how that’ll impact the schedule.

  • I think we should all raise hell at an appropriate venue to get Clive Mantle’s Greatjon back in :(

  • darquemode:
    Carne,

    Ha!

    I would guess they will film the Night’s Watch scenes later in the filming period, so he may be able to latch onto a role for this season there, but it is hard not knowing where the cut-off point in the book will be.

    I wonder if McTavish can portray a certain one-armed blacksmith? XD
    I can see him fitting into the Watch easily, but no role jumps out as perfect I guess.

    A woman also thought of McTavish for Donal Noye, but since the casting call was put out for amputees a few months ago thought they might find an actor with that characteristic to play the part. Unless they’re doing away with that and making him 2-armed, that is. We shall see.

  • Sad about Mantle, I hope they creatively work around his absence and he appears in later seasons *wink*

    Slightly OT, sorry if already mentioned: Saw a newspaper article on the new Naomi Watts Diana movie, looks like Cas Anvar is playing Dodi Al Fayed-filming now in Croatia. Talk about typecasting if he gets Dario!

  • Stinks Clive wont be back as greatjon. I enjoyed him as the role. However his role is minor… he really only has one role yeah? beating freys in a drinking contest (bad ass) then being captive until … atleast twow?

    I enjoy the continuity and familiar faces of the same actors. I don’t like recasting no matter who it is. However it is going to happen especially for smaller roles. In some cases they kill off some roles… rokaro, doreah, irri? I think they are all still alive in the books..? sadly maybe killed off instead of paying named actors to reappear?

    However this is my favorite time of ASOIAF, I like guessing who they are casting, who is may be appearing, who they name (beric and thoros s1 “my bastard” even wex got one in s2.) Fun to compare who they stay with and analayzing if their roles are going to be affecting the last two books. Or if they just get cut, maybe meaning their roles are diminished in the books.

    Darquemode/miscotti awesome looking mactavish/victarion/GJ replacement probabilities.

    Is conan stevens back as the mountain for sure or have i been thrown off???

    keep the news coming WIC =)

  • Now that Sarah Bolger is likely out as Meera I thought I would start the next possibly soon-not-to-be Meera rumor.
    Geogie Henley tweeted that she was happy and she started reading A Game of Thrones.

    I don’t see any other hints she would be playing Meera, but she has been cast by Nina Gold in the past of course…

    I was thinking… if Asim Ahmad is Thoros and starts filming next month according to his Twitter, then can we assume that the BwoB scenes will not be filmed until next month? If so, then McGinley filming today leads me to believe he is Edmure like many of us suspected/ wondered…

  • HBO should release the casting for season 3 a’la the academy award nominations. Stream it live and have dead characters read out the castings. It would bring huge buzz for the show. Let us know the considerations etc.

    Crazy idea yes but doable? I think so.

  • SDGM,

    No he didn’t break it filming.
    Perkins,

    No he’s not back. Not sure where you got that idea?
    darquemode,

    On Georgie’s twitter, the day of the script reading, she talks about hanging out with her girlfriends, and she’s tweeting up a storm as usual. I think it’s unlikely she’s involved if she wasn’t there for the script reading.

  • Ours,

    Just reading the bring bring back clive, ban conan, bring back conan who did a better job would they bring him back he has better things to do he put off GOT…. jive.

    lostinposts.

  • Ours is the Fury,

    I noticed that too…

    Now that filming has started we need some good spies at the filming sites. ..

    I guess in all honesty this was about the time I thought more casting rumors would start breaking. I was suprised pleasantly by all the early rumors floating around. Although for having so many rumors we really only have a few roles seeimingly confirmed – Shireen, “Myranda” and Blackfish (and maybe Thoros).

    I hope once GRRM starts his froggy hints or HBO starts announcing they do not start with Nathalie Emmanuel, Tara FitzGerald, Philip McGinley, Mackenzie Crook and the rest we have rumors for! I want fresh new info dammit! XD

    Although it would be nice to get confirmed roles for the actors we think have been cast I suppose….

    Bring on the Con!
    Bring on the filming news!
    Bring on the Casting news!

  • Congratulations, to the cast and crew as they begin filming season three, and break a leg.
    Interesting news concerning Georgie, she would make a good Meera, I guess she was runner up to Bolger (who prefered Princess Aurora to Princess Froggy), if these two were competing for the role, it is a sign that Meera’s role is expanded. I don’t think we need Jojen though, seriously, give his lines to Meera and Bran, save money. More screen time to Meera and Bran is a plus in my books.
    Concerning casting announcements, I think with the changes and additions, for example Myranda, is she a new character or Lady Royce moved up a season? It is these type of possible changes that bring out the worst in by the book fans, and I believe HBO is perhaps a little tentative, avoiding the victriol diatribe from you know who. I myself, which have mentioned before don’t mind additions that are logical. Myranda Royce could have been part of an entourage atttending the PW, or Dorne can show up early, since we know incidents were occuring simultaneously alongside the POV chapters. Dan and Dave said from now on they were not following the book per season format and going with the flow, which is add good thing, you should never put yourself into a corner willingly.

  • Shame about the greatjon. They could cast the smalljon instead and just say the greatjon is elsewhere fighting, but don’t know what GRRM’s plans are for the greatjon…

  • Hey guys seen one of those famous pink GOT signs today close to where I live in N.Ireland, it said Unit base on it I dunno what that means does anyone on here know?