Casting Rumors and Speculation, Part 2
By Ours is the Fury on in Rumors, Speculation.

Filming began yesterday in Northern Ireland, so we should see official casting confirmations any day now! Until then, it’s time for more casting speculation.

  • One source heard from a local in Bellaghy, N. Ireland, last week that Game of Thrones would be shooting there, possibly at Ballyscullion Park. As we found out yesterday, this was correct. The same local also mentioned that English actress Diana Rigg was coming to town. Rigg, star of the classic television show The Avengers, hasn’t been mentioned in connection to GoT, but the rumor is intriguing. Ballyscullion Park is frequently home to film and television shoots, so it’s possible she was connected to another project filming in the area.
  • We’re still waiting on confirmation of speculated cast members Mackenzie Crook and Philip McGinley. Since Crook was photographed outside the site of the script reading with the cast, he’s almost a sure thing. We don’t know yet what role he’ll play, but Elio at Westeros.org has said that Crook will not be playing Vargo Hoat. It appears that McGinley was filming yesterday, though his role is still also unknown.
  • We know Nathalie Emmanuel is involved due to her tweeting of a script. We’re still waiting to find out what part the Hollyoaks actress will be filling.
  • WiC commenter Carne did some digging and found that Clive Mantle will not be returning as the Greatjon Umber in season three, according to the actor’s agent.
  • Asim Ahmad tweeted on July 8th that he was working on Game of Thrones, and it’s been reported that he mentioned on Facebook that he’s playing Thoros of Myr. We haven’t had any on-set sightings or word from HBO to confirm the actor’s casting.
  • A blind gossip report from IMDB that is fun but unreliable: A commenter posted a thread about a “big name” being cast on GoT this season. They claim the source is their friend, an actor on the show. The IMDB postings are anonymous and don’t carry a lot of weight with their vagueness. They describe the new casting as “old school big”, and a “bit of a legend”. The poster says their actor friend reported, “You could hear a pin drop when [this person] talked,” but wouldn’t provide any other hints. They say the ‘legend’ was about 5ft 8, but it was probably a joking answer to “Can you tell me how big they are?” There may be no basis to this posting, but if the show cast a name like Diana Rigg or some other British legend, it would fit.

Ours is the Fury: With San Diego Comic-Con just around the corner, I’m hoping we’ll see a few official confirmations very soon.


322 Comments

  1. MATTHEW
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Queen of Thorns?

  2. Michel
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Mackenzie = Mance
    Philip = Edmure
    Nathalie = Missandei aged up

    And in my head, Asim is SOOOO diferent from the Thoros I always imagined

    (I’m my opinion)

  3. slave2thewage
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Crap, I never considered Diana Rigg for QoT. That would actually be great casting.

  4. Direhound
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Weird that with Westeros denying he’s Hoat many accredited sites are reporting it as almost fact. Does that come from sourcing Wic commenters?

  5. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Direhound,

    Yes, lol. I phrased it in my original post as “Is he the Goat?” and that somehow became, He is Vargo. People don’t read carefully. I believe Elio over the other sites who aren’t even sourcing their rumors.

  6. Heather
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Diana Rigg is 5’8.5″… she’d make a great Queen of Thorns.

  7. Tenesmus
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Side by side, Mackenzie Crook looks like a relative of Michael McElhatton…just saying

  8. glenn
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    asim looks more like belwas!!

  9. Indu
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    It just struck me that Crook has some Freyish features, no? Also, most of the cast members on that photo play people that are likely to see Black Walder and Co., although I guess that’s weak evidence.

  10. Tyrion4Lyfe
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Nathalie Emmanuel…

    I have never seen her before this point. She is smokin’ hot.

  11. Carol
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    IMDB says Diana Rigg is 5′ 8½”. I’d say that’s “about 5ft 8″. :)

    According to the BBC’s Doctor Who blog, filming for her episode started in Cardiff last week, so she should be available shortly if the rumour is true. She’d do nicely.

  12. MATTHEW
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion4Lyfe:
    Nathalie Emmanuel…

    I have never seen her before this point.She is smokin’ hot.

    So was Diana Rigg :-P

  13. tysnow
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Wow, never considered Ms. Peel, but if you look at her pics from the 60′s, you can see a resemblance with Ms. Dormer, so Ms. Riggs defintely would pass as the GoT, good job again Nina. I really hope Emmanuel is Arianne moved up, because she is how I always envisioned the character. I want Missandei to be another child actor, mainly cause Ms. Gold is sooooo good at casting them.

  14. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    That’s what i was thinking as well .

  15. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Emma Peel and Contessa Theresa Vincenzo aka Mrs. James Bond as the QoT???? Amazing! Great genre casting too! If it’s true of course.

  16. Prork
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Hopefully the old school British legend will be Brian Blessed as Tormund Giantsbane!

  17. Hieronymus
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    I just mentioned on Facebook that I’m playing Thoros of Myr.

    MacKenzie Crook = Vargo Hoat (a total miscast in every other role imo).

    Diana Rigg, the grandmother of girl power = the Queen of Thorns.

  18. Augie Hatton
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Hieronymus,

    IMO I think he will make a great Mance

  19. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Rigg would make a good Queen of Thorns.

    McGinly seems to young for Edmure IMO.

  20. Omar Brown
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Young Diana Rigg looks a dead ringer for Natalie Dormer….just sayin. ;-)

  21. DaveB
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Diana Rigg = Meera Reed. They’re just going to age her up 190 years.

  22. Harold
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Regarding Diana Rigg: Last month an anonymous poster on a certain imageboard announced that he had it from a source, that this actress was being cast. Nice to see that this has been proven true.

  23. Carne
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Might has well post this here.

    ASoS spoilers: Ian McElhinney is back for season 3.

  24. Michel
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Nice, but it would be more dramatic for the non readers if he’d be introduced again in “Valar Morghulis”…I’m a little bit worried about Belwas :( I’m gonna cry if they cut him

  25. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Harold,

    Anonymous person on an image board? Do you have a link or something?

    A young Diana Rigg and Natalie Dormer pics side by side. They would make a great grandmother/granddaughter pairing. I hope this one is true.

    http://i50.tinypic.com/14mqsi.jpg

  26. Nick
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Gwendoline Christie looks GIGANTIC in the photo of the cast (avec Crook and McGinley) outside the hotel. And despite what Elio says, I really hope Crook is Vargo. Although he’d be an interesting Mance and a very out-of-type Edmure…

  27. Henry
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    DaveB:
    Diana Rigg = Meera Reed. They’re just going to age her up 190 years.

    Finally someone talks some sense. This seems very plausible, and it would support my idea that Crook is playing Jojen. Also, McGinley is playing Daario. And I’m thinking the ‘big name’ is Bear Grylls, playing Beric Dondarrion. Some of his latest tweets read “just landed in Belfast!”, “I love this flaming sword prop!” and “this better be worth it on film, because I only have one eye left!”

  28. Liam
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Are there any roles that would suit Ron Perlman, Iwan Rheon and Christopher Eccleston?

  29. Carne
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Liam,

    Iwan Rheon would fit as Ramsay.

  30. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    If McGinley’s filming today does this mean he’s in Arya or Bran’s group? Beric?

    Diana Rigg has the looks but they’ll need some camera tricks to make her tiny…

  31. MATTHEW
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    MoonCoffee:
    If McGinley’s filming today does this mean he’s in Arya or Bran’s group? Beric?

    Diana Rigg has the looks but they’ll need some camera tricks to make her tiny…

    She’s tiny in the books, but I don’t see how that’s a vital part of her character that needs to be replicated onscreen.

  32. MATTHEW
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Harold,

    Anonymous person on an image board? Do you have a link or something?

    4chan links expire quickly. Who knew they were delivering GoT casting scoops on /b/

  33. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    I TOO SHALL CRY IF THEY CUT MY STRONG BELWAS.

    THAT’S IT! FROM THIS MOMENT ONWARD, I SHALL CHANGE MY POSTING NAME TO BELWASBLUES. NO LONGER SHALL I BE OH-BB. ALL THINGS BELWAS, FOREVER.

    It worked for the Blackfish, man.

  34. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Oooh. Diana Rigg. That’s one I hadn’t thought of, and she fits well – she’s a great old dame, she’s a name people recognize, but hasn’t been so active of late that she’d overwhelm the proceedings in the way Judi Dench (a pipe dream) would. If that’s who they’ve picked up, it’s a nice get. (Plus, she was Lady Holliday in The Great Muppet Caper!)

    As for the rest: I’d say people shouldn’t get “worried” about parts like Strong Belwas, and other such things. I know we’re in a vacuum here for a few more weeks (or months, really), but we’ll hear about a lot of things soon enough.

    As for Clive Mantle, it’s a disappointment – if only because (and this is coming from someone who watched Season 1, then read the books), the character is one you took notice of immediately. Seeing him get his fingers bit off and laugh it off was one of those “Who the $%@!$ is THIS GUY?” moments, and the fun he brought to the role was pretty huge. So I can see that; however, it is certainly possible that he returns at some point, even if GRRM has some big plans for the character in Book 6/7 et al.

  35. andrea
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Mc Ginley cannot be Edmure, he´s looks as young as Robb. He´s Ramsay.

    Tenesmus,

    do the same but with Mc Ginley´s picture. You´ll see.

  36. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

    Nick,

    Where is this photo? Did I miss it while I was gnashing my teeth about my homeboy Belwas?

  37. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    He’s 31, older than the book-Edmure. Cat was aged up, but it’s not essential that Edmure be a certain age. He could be pretty much anyone at this point. Edmure, Beric, Ramsay, the list goes on and on.

  38. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    I really figure McGinley is Beric, if he’s filming in the same group as Arya and co, and that skinny face, I think, could work well with what’s going down there. Or any of the guys with him.

    That guy supposedly cast for Thoros looks fine to me, by the way! I hope it’s true and I can’t wait to see him. I’m a big Thoros fan, to be honest.

  39. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Permalink
  40. summer_stark
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    He’s way too hot to be Ramsay — Ramsay is fleshy and ugly. McGinley is lean and attractive. It would suck if he played Ramsay IMO. I hope he’s Edmure. He’s a little on the young side, but I think he’d do just fine.

    I’m not totally on board with Rigg as QoT. She looks too…nice. Not enough of an edge.

    And I don’t know what they’re doing with Crook, but I seriously can’t see him as Hoat, Ramsay, or anyone else mentioned. Maybe a Frey I suppose.

  41. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Sounds like Crook as Hoat was wishful thinking, but I still think he’d be perfect for that role. Oh well.

    It will be interesting to see who he will be playing though. I’m guessing he’ll be a wildling of some sort. Varamyr Sixskins, perhaps? The Brotherhood Without Banners seems likely as well. Maybe Tom of Sevenstreams?

    In any case, the guy definitely has a unique look, so it makes me wonder.

  42. andrea
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I really know nothing about the age of the characters in the books. In fact I have no clue about Ramsay´s age. He just looks very young to me to be Catelyn´s brother.
    But yes, who knows

  43. Wun-Wun
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    I know its a lot to hope for but I think I would have a full blown nerdgasm if Brian Blessed was cast as Tormund Giantsbane. I know he’s getting on a bit, BUT JUST IMAGINE!!!!

  44. 3eyes
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Hieronymus,

    Grandmother is it? :D Truly, there was a long dry spell between Mrs. Peel and Ripley. At any rate, Dame Diana acting in the two best TV productions ever is the icing on the cake for the coming season. *does back flip out of sheer joy*

  45. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Oh, thank you! I was too excited to start reading speculation in the comments, I guess!

  46. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Also, because I am a posting fool today, I am totally on board with Diana Rigg as the QoT. She’ll throw down the requisite sass. And that side-by-side picture with Natalie Dormer: WOW.

  47. The Dear Hunter
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    I wish they weren’t going to lose the Greatjon and I hope that Smalljon still gets his badass scene during the RW

  48. Harold
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Harold,

    Anonymous person on an image board? Do you have a link or something?

    http://i50.tinypic.com/14mqsi.jpg

    Actually I do, as I found the archived thread:
    archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/23879634

    And the reveal:
    http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/23879634/#q23879905

    It’s 4chan, so there obviously will be some offensive language.

    MATTHEW: 4chan links expire quickly.Who knew they were delivering GoT casting scoops on /b/

    They do, but a few boards have an implemented automatic archive system, that archives EVERY thread. Obviously /b/ is not one of them, but /tv/ is.

  49. andrea
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    summer_stark: He’s way too hot to be Ramsay

    maybe but I think I would like a nice looking Ramsay to make contrast with his… you know wickedness. but surely he´ll be Edmure or someone else, I’m terrible with these things. I just think he looks like Roose (the actor).

  50. yldirim
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Mackenzie Crook = Ramsay Bolton

  51. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Harold,

    4chan’s structure sort of baffles me. If they’re anonymous, how can you tell it’s the same person answering the question as the one who originally posted with the tip?

    Thanks for the link. :)

  52. tritone
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Tenesmus,

    I agree – Crook’s gotta be Ramsey the Bastard!

  53. Lina
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Rigg would make a great QoT, in my opinion. I’d actually prefer someone like her to someone like Maggie Smith. We all know Smith would kill it, but she is SO high-profile that I’d almost see her more as Maggie Smith than Olenna Tyrell. Rigg has legendary status but isn’t as in the forefront as some of the others mentioned for Olenna.

    I would hope Crook was Vargo. Is Elio’s word the end-all? I guess I just see him as a little young for Mance. I could definitely picture him as one of the Brotherhood though – Tom or Lem or someone like that. He couldn’t possible by Ramsay could he?

    The guy who is allegedly playing Thoros looks nothing like I imagined. Not a bad thing, but just an observation.

  54. DaveB
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Henry: Finally someone talks some sense. This seems very plausible, and it would support my idea that Crook is playing Jojen. Also, McGinley is playing Daario. And I’m thinking the ‘big name’ is Bear Grylls, playing Beric Dondarrion. Some of his latest tweets read “just landed in Belfast!”, “I love this flaming sword prop!” and “this better be worth it on film, because I only have one eye left!”

    By McGinley, surely you mean Ted McGinley, best known as Jefferson on “Married with Children.” He’d be PERFECT!

  55. summer_stark
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    He does look kind of like the actor who plays Roose — that’s true. Although in the books Ramsay doesn’t look like Roose, except for the eyes.

  56. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    No disrespect to Elio, but why do we assume he knows what he’s talking about? Is he working on set these days? D&D running all the casting choices by him?

  57. Harold
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Well, obviously anyone could imitate him, but most of the time people don’t really bother with that. And most of the time you can tell if someone is just a troll or genuine.

  58. Michel
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Everyone that is not Cilian Murphy for Ramsey and Maggie Smith for QoT it’s not enough for me..they’re perfect for the roles..but I think that will be no big names for this season, like Sean Bean, for me in the moment the big name is “Mackenzie Crook” (that it’s not famous like Sean, but it’s a big actor) IMO

  59. Michel
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Dolph Lundgren:
    No disrespect to Elio, but why do we assume he knows what he’s talking about? Is he working on set these days? D&D running all the casting choices by him?

    He is doing a book with GRRM about the history of Westeros, isn’t it ?

  60. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Michel:

    Yeah, but that book has absolutely nothing to do with the show. And judging by how long they’ve been working on that book, it doesn’t exactly seem like he’s in constant communication with GRRM.

  61. KG
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Heather,

    So instead of being rather under the average size, she’s rather over the average size. Big freaking deal. She is one of the most skilled actresses of her generation.

  62. grabalek
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    My bet for Mackenzie Crook would be Beric Dondarrion. He looks “half-dead” without any kind of makeup. ;)

    As for Nathalie Emmanuel…maybe Missandei? She’s a bit older but looks very child like and innocent.

  63. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    Liam:
    Christopher Eccleston?

    Stannis

  64. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW: She’s tiny in the books, but I don’t see how that’s a vital part of her character that needs to be replicated onscreen.

    Her being tiny, while not as important as Gregor being superhuge or Sam being fat, adds the oomph to her character, the visual dissonance between a frail “doll of a grandmother” and the grand schemes she’s hatching. It would’ve made better visuals if she’s at least a bit shorter than Margaery. At the very least, I want her to look frail when she has to (” A fearsome old harridan, and not near as frail as she pretends.”)

  65. John-Michael Lelievre
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    My god Gwen is tall! Guess they needed no camera tricks for her to tower over Michelle lol.

  66. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think her height matters. I didn’t even remember how short she was until people’s comments reminded me. What matters is that she looks like a sweet old lady until she starts talking, and then you realize she’s steely. She doesn’t need to be short to look unimposing at first. Remember how hung up everyone was on Robert’s height when Mark Addy was cast? And he turned out to be fantastic.

  67. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Interesting about Dianna rigg…
    I can see her as QOT easily despite her being relatively tall. I do think of being tiny as part of the role in my mind, but it really is not that important in the end….. That side by side shot with Dormer is amazing! XD

    Has anyone posted the Game of Thrones Comic-Con posters yet?
    http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/07/10/game-of-thrones-comic-con-posters/

  68. Boston Matt
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    Rigg was just filming Doctor Who, i’m not sure where, but that was last week, so she was probably sighted in the area for that.

  69. Anne Boleyn
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I like the idea of Mackenzie Crook as Beric. It would be a refreshing departure.

    Going to throw in with the other few who have mentioned it: I think Philip McGinley is Ramsay Bolton. He looks waaaay too much like Michael McElhatton to not be Ramsay. It wouldn’t surprise me if they departed from the physical description of the role, they have done so with several other roles, most notably Osha.

  70. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Boston Matt,

    They were shooting Doctor Who in Wales, so it wasn’t for that. Bellaghy is in Northern Ireland.

  71. dmf
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    all this speculation is killing me slowly!

  72. glenn
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    the way they were mentioning the bolton bastard without ever revealing him as a “boom, surprise, big name star star” feeling to it.

  73. Wastrel
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Prork:
    Hopefully the old school British legend will be Brian Blessed as Tormund Giantsbane!

    I’d like to see (and hear!) Rigg on GoT – but Brian Blessed would blow any other possible casting out of the water!

    Even though he’s now surely too old for tormund, and even he might balk at that level of typecasting.

    Hmm… Brian Blessed for Mance Rayder! No, wait, Ramsay!…

    …actually, Oberyn Martell. It would be casting against type, but it would be incredibly awesome and hilarious.

  74. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Yeah, but I went ahead and made a new post for them so y’all can squee over them freely. :)

  75. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Dolph Lundgren:
    No disrespect to Elio, but why do we assume he knows what he’s talking about? Is he working on set these days? D&D running all the casting choices by him?

    He’s pretty plugged in not just with GRRM, but other members of the production. He knows a lot of stuff that he is not allowed to talk about. I’m guessing he knows who they have cast as Vargo Hoat only he’s not allowed to say, but did feel he could share that it is NOT Crook.

  76. Macha
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,
    My R’hllor, I’m drooling over these posters already. I wonder if they’ll be put on sale online in the near future, I’d love to buy one. Or two. Or all.

    Diana Rigg is a legend, we’d be so lucky to have her on the show if the rumours are true.

  77. Frederik Kragh
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    I think Mackenzie Crooks is playing Tom Sevenstrings and Philip McGinley, Anguy aka Archer. They both fit the roles and that would explain why they are already filming (Arya group). I think McGinley would make a great Ramsay Snow aswell though. Im pretty sure Nathalie Emmanuel will be Missandei although I would prefer a younger one, but its not a big deal. Diana Riggs seems as a pretty good fit for QoT except for her height. I always thought of QoT to be like 5 feet tall or something. Not 5′ 8”

  78. Zack
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming: He’s pretty plugged in not just with GRRM, but other members of the production. He knows a lot of stuff that he is not allowed to talk about. I’m guessing he knows who they have cast as Vargo Hoat only he’s not allowed to say, but did feel he could share that it is NOT Crook.

    I’m just not really sure who feels the need to inform them of those kind of details, considering how irrationally biased that site is against the show.

    But, you know, people can do what they want. Even if it doesn’t make sense.

  79. hashbandit420
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    because you probably imagined a white guy even though Thoros’ race is never stated in the books… smh.

  80. andrea
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    Anne Boleyn: Going to throw in with the other few who have mentioned it: I think Philip McGinley is Ramsay Bolton. He looks waaaay too much like Michael McElhatton to not be Ramsay. It wouldn’t surprise me if they departed from the physical description of the role, they have done so with several other roles, most notably Osha.

    so, you bet your head at it? (bad Ned´s joke). I think we´re alone on this.

  81. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    hashbandit420,

    It might have also had something to do with all the artwork depicting Thoros as a white guy. Tell me, which characters ARE explicitly described as white people? I hardly see how that comment deserved a head shake.

  82. Carolina H
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Ashamed to admit i hadn’t thought of diana rigg for olenna, but she would be great. I lovedher in bleak house and she did well acting alongside the great larry oliver, so it would me a good choice (though i will still think maggiesmith or vanessa redgrave would’ve been the best).
    I wanted crook to play hoat so badly, but i now have no ideaas to whom he could play. Maybe beric dondarrion? By the time of swords he is just as think as crook.
    That philip guy looks very hanfsome but i think he could be playing a villain rather than edmure, so who knows- maybe he’ll be playing ramsay and since it was said that some of the scenes with bran were shot first,what this actor did yeasterday has to do with that?
    So sad about the greatjon, he would’ve been great in the RW.
    I suspect we migh hear the big star legend that is rumored to appear at comin con?

  83. Michel
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Frederik Kragh:
    I think Mackenzie Crooks is playing Tom Sevenstrings and Philip McGinley, Anguy aka Archer. They both fit the roles and that would explain why they are already filming (Arya group). I think McGinley would make a great Ramsay Snow aswell though. Im pretty sure Nathalie Emmanuel will be Missandei although I would prefer a younger one, but its not a big deal. Diana Riggs seems as a pretty good fit for QoT except for her height. I always thought of QoT to be like 5 feet tall or something. Not 5′ 8”

    I think Tom is a small role for Mackenzie

  84. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Zack, that’s a rather uninformed comment. Like W-I-C, Elio and Linda have been promoting the show for several years (through all of preproduction and Season 1). David and Dan even started a thread there for casting suggestions. There was ample time for E&L to get to know many people in production, and those relationships don’t necessarily get torched just because they had some tough words about Season 2.

  85. lovesduncan
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    I like Crook as Beric. He has the right look. I just don’t see him as Mance but all of this is so subjective.

    I am very curious about who will be cast as Mance. I think it is a difficult part to cast correctly because it is not just about appearance. Its about charisma, intelligence, instinct.

    Diana Rigg would be a huge “get” for GOT…a wonderful Olenna. I’m sure that she can deliver wise and cunning in an unsuspecting manner without needing to be 5′ tall. Her scenes with Sophie Turner and Natalie Dormer will be priceless, especially the “what’s Joffrey really like luncheon.”

  86. NewJeffCT
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Lina: I wish they weren’t going to lose the Greatjon and I hope that Smalljon still gets his badass scene during the RW

    Lina:
    Rigg would make a great QoT, in my opinion.I’d actually prefer someone like her to someone like Maggie Smith.We all know Smith would kill it, but she is SO high-profile that I’d almost see her more as Maggie Smith than Olenna Tyrell.Rigg has legendary status but isn’t as in the forefront as some of the others mentioned for Olenna.

    I wouldn’t see it as Maggie Smith as the QoT – I’d see it as Minerva Mcgonagall playing the QoT, and I’d keep expecting her to whip out her wand and have Sansa practice transfiguration.

  87. Andrew
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    To be fair, Elio wasn’t really freaking out about the show too much. That was mostly Linda. He certainly takes on a more “wish they were closer to the books” view, but he’s never been the unreasonable one from what I’ve seen.

    As a young, not British person, I’ve never seen The Avengers, but judging from the reactions I take it this is good news :P

  88. Flim Flammity
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Sad to hear about Greatjon :’(

  89. 3eyes
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Andrew,

    Lot’s of Avengers episodes up on YT (as of this writing). Feast your eyes.

  90. dizzy_34
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    BelwasBlues,

    Shall I change my name to Shitmouth Blues ?… haven’t heard shit about Shitmouth…

  91. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    OtherAndrew,

    HBO should distance themselves from Linda at all costs. Elio is more levelheaded but Linda is not going to give up especially when season 3 airs.

  92. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Elio and Linda won’t be chasing away any new viewers. I don’t think HBO is overly concerned with what they have to say.

  93. James
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    I’m worried that they actually cast Mackenzie Crook as Mance. That would take some getting used to.

  94. Lyn Corbray
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Strong Belwas can take it, he lets everyone cut him at least once. (see what i did there?)

  95. Lyn Corbray
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    and Crook better not be cast as Mance… i would always think of him as that stupid pirate and it would ruin an awesome character for me

  96. dizzy_34
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Dolph Lundgren,

    HBO might not care but I bet the show runners take what they say into consideration. HBO is probably more concerned about the boob quota being met.

  97. The Instrumentalist
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    I think he might be Ramsey as well. And I thought Cook would be a good Lord Beric… looking all resurrected and icky. Is that mean to say? Haha… I don’t know why people have dismissed Cook as Beric. Did I miss something?

  98. Zack
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    OtherAndrew,

    HBO should distance themselves from Linda at all costs. Elio is more levelheaded but Linda is not going to give up especially when season 3 airs.

    They’re spokespeople for the series as a whole. I definitely agree that it doesn’t help the brand (and is likely detrimental) to have such a public face of the fandom behave like that. I’m glad Elio appears reasonable though.

    I mean, we all know that as time goes on, the show isn’t going to get MORE faithful to the text than it’s already been. We’ll see more and more creative license taken and so unless they can square themselves to that and keep the criticisms to “How the show works/doesn’t work” rather than “How closely it matches the text” the Westeros screeching is only going to get worse. If I’m HBO I spend my PR efforts on places that have a high likelihood of helping in the goal of gaining/retaining viewers, rather than places where retaining viewers because of their commentary is only the best case scenario, and where viewer disillusionment is a not unbelievable possibility.

    In contrast, I can say for sure that discussions at WIC have more often than not helped me to see things they’ve done at the show in a more, rather than less, favorable light.

  99. Direhound
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    I think FAB got Asim to confirm he is shaving his head for Thoros. https://twitter.com/asimaahmad/status/222796607572287488

  100. The Rabbit
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Direhound,

    Yeah, now it is pretty sure we have Thoros.

    And as our Winter twitted earlier today:” It’s day 2 of filming on ‪#GameofThrones‬ season 3. These first couple days have seen the filming of some Bran and Arya scenes from ep21. ” we can speculate more about McGinley and his role in the show.

    I do not think he is part of Bran s storyline. It is probably Arya s – and according to Ahmad s statement that he would join the filming in a month, they probabaly filmed Arya s meeting with some members of the BWB: so McGinley could be Tom or Anguy or even Harwin.

    Just guessin..

  101. andrea
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    The Instrumentalist: I don’t know why people have dismissed Cook as Beric.

    they don´t. Some people agree with you… for the same post-Beric reasons ;)
    Ok, one more for Ramsay/McGinley.

  102. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    OtherAndrew,

    HBO should distance themselves from Linda at all costs. Elio is more levelheaded but Linda is not going to give up especially when season 3 airs.

    I shared some online circles (unrelated to ASoIaF) with Linda many years ago and, uh, yeah, I think this is accurate. She seems about the same. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.

  103. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Direhound,

    Interesting…
    I do find it a little bit odd that D&D are going to (re)introduce us to the gaunt and deathly Beric Dondarrion of Storm of Swords, but they will give us the bald and rotund Thoros of A Game of Thrones – not Storm of Swords where he is thin and has grey hair….
    I will get past it about 5 minutes after official confirmation I’m sure though.

    Part of me still hopes all the rumors are wrong and Ahmad will be playing a bald Strong Belwas! XD

  104. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    Yeah WiC is definitely not the tv version fanboy bastion
    In comparison to Westeros. But it has a more level head compared to the other site. I find the criticism more varied and complex then “omg! X doesn’t have X this! Ruined!”

  105. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Loads of people still think Crook could be Beric. Not really sure where anyone got the idea we’re all on the same page. Until someone is announced officially in a role, I’m keeping my mind open.

    Oona Chaplin tweeted a picture of “Game of Thrones horses” according to her, so either she’s practicing with their horses or she’s filming. Anything’s possible at this point.

    Direhound,

    He said “Once things are finalized” which is interesting. Role not as secure as he let on, maybe?

  106. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    BelwasBlues,

    The problem is that she is the Uber ASOIAF fan and she hates the show. Yet she is using the popularity of the show to prop herself up. Half of us wouldn’t know who she is had we not heard HBO was making the adaptation.

    I’m not saying she should kiss HBO’s and D and D’s ass but she could act a bit more professional and tone it down. Then again this is the same person who said that she would prefer the show to be completely accurate to the books and be cancelled after a season than to have any deviations from the sacred text.

  107. tysnow
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    If McGinley is currently filming, and the only story lines in front of the lens atm are Bran’s and Arya’s, it is pretty safe to theorize that it is Arya’s and BwB arc, which means he is playing Beric.
    This would mean Crook is either Ramsay or Mance, remember Mance looks nothing like a King, but Crook has the ability to give the appearance of someone that isn’t all there, aka Ramsay.
    Here is a pic of MacKenzie from Ironclad, can give you an idea of his look ala medieval.

  108. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Zack: unless they can square themselves to that and keep the criticisms to “How the show works/doesn’t work” rather than “How closely it matches the text” the Westeros screeching is only going to get worse.

    Their main criticisms weren’t just about changes, but about certain specific changes they considered dumb or bad. IIRC their main criticisms were: Robb/Jeyne, the loss of the darker parts of Arya’s Harrenhal plotline, the bizarre Jon/Qhorin changes, all the Dany/Qarth stuff, the Undying scene, and overall the continued lack of backstory and prophecy. They praised other changed material like Theon’s arc and the Blackwater episode. I didn’t agree with all of their criticisms but I have to acknowledge that they were pretty logical and well-thought out, and based on thematic character and tonal grounds, not mere fealty to the text. I hope the producers have read them as well and maybe acknowledge that they have some fair points.

  109. Zack
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    OtherAndrew,

    I’d agree that all of those points are worthy of discussion at the very least, in terms of whether specific plot changes served to the benefit of the show or not.

    Maybe it’s just a question of tone and phrasing, then. Initially I was pretty ambivalent about HotU as well but with some reflection (and prodding from FaB) my appreciation for that particular approach increased significantly.

    So I’d just urge the people over there to keep that in mind. If something strikes them as strange, sleep on it before writing out some piece on how the show is doomed. Some things, especially for superfans that have read these books 7-8+ times, are going to be a disappointment if there are deviations from what we expect. There’s no way around it. But the people doing the show are devoted fans as well, and changes aren’t lightly made.

  110. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    So hard to piece things together with so many incomplete rumors and vague tweets!

    Are we certain that they have been filming only Arya and Bran scenes with no Robb scenes? Oona is tweeting horse pics so is it possible she is filming too?

    Doesn’t Arya meet Beric and Thoros at the same time? I would think if Thoros is not filming for a month then Beric may not be filming for a month too…
    Would they really cast Tom, Anguy and Lem? Lem is supposed to be bearded of course, but he is also suppsoed to be much older and fierce looking. Middle-aged and fierce are not the two words that come to mind when I see McGinley! XD

    If they are filming Robb scenes I think Edmure is likely for McGinley…
    If he is in the Arya shoots then I would think he is a lesser BwoB member – not Beric or Thoros etc. I agree with you, one of the trio that encounters Arya, Gendry and Hot Pie makes sense to me. He doesn’t look like how I pictured any of those 3 though honestly, but specific looks are not really prerequisite to any of those roles. Other than Lem needs a yellow cloak! XD

    If they are in fact filming some Robb scenes too then the “beard” comment by McGinley really makes me think Edmure and not Ramsay or Beric, or any other member of BwoB.

  111. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    BelwasBlues,

    The problem is that she is the Uber ASOIAF fan and she hates the show. Yet she is using the popularity of the show to prop herself up. Half of us wouldn’t know who she is had we not heard HBO was making the adaptation.

    I’m not saying she should kiss HBO’s and D and D’s ass but she could act a bit more professional and tone it down. Then again this is the same person who said that she would prefer the show to be completely accurate to the books and be cancelled after a season than to have any deviations from the sacred text.

    She just runs a fansite and podcast. She is in no way affiliated with the show, and as such, has no responsibility to tone it down. Some people are really overstating the importance of Elio and Linda’s opinions. For the showrunners, their opinions are, at most, one of many ways to gauge what book-readers think of the show so far. They’re not turning to them for advice on how to proceed, and certainly not depending on them to keep viewers invested. In short, no one should care if Linda likes the show or not, at least beyond personal curiosity.

  112. WildSeed
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Harold,

    Anonymous person on an image board? Do you have a link or something?

    A young Diana Rigg and Natalie Dormer pics side by side. They would make a great grandmother/granddaughter pairing. I hope this one is true.

    http://i50.tinypic.com/14mqsi.jpg

    Nice, they even look related . Ms Rigg is a very good actress but I wonder if she
    has the moxy for this role. IMHO my perception of QoT is sweet grandmotherly
    facade admixed with shrewd intelligence. I don’t know why but Ive always
    envisioned a Miss Marple like personality which is why I considered Geraldine
    McEwan or Fionnula Flanagan. Both ladies an petite and wizened for the
    portrayal.The other rumored prominent actresses ( i.e.. Judi Dench,et.al)
    would claim the part as their own but an unlikely wish on our part. Ms Rigg
    is available perhaps and mayhaps a fan of the show. She would likely be a
    budget conscious choice as she rarely does major work anymore, although Ms’
    McEwan and Flanagan are not far from that mark either. Well we shall see.
    GoT writers may decide to have a limited script for this role anyway.

  113. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    When you arrive late to the party and you’re just so overwhelmed by all the posts you just skip to the end.

  114. Rogue Hero
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    I’m going to throw this out there and probably not get a lot of support behind it – but I truly believe that there is a REALLY big casting for this season that has been kept under wraps. Think about it – we barely know any casting news even regarding lesser known actors and parts. I think that there is a strong chance that someone along the lines of Elijah Wood or Cillian Murphy has been cast for a part like Ramsay Bolton. Or perhaps someone big for Mance Rayder. Or maybe Charlize Theron even took a random part.

    With the way this show has been taking off, the rising interest amongst celebrities, the almost flawless confidentiality surrounding casting for the third season, as well as the wide range of new characters, I am awaiting a big announcement or surprise.

  115. Two Feathers
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Love this time of year….the casting speculation is fun to read. Dawn French as Strong Belwas anyone…;)

  116. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Rogue Hero,

    Before the casting or filming period even began I thought we may get one bigger name actor to play Mance since it is a significant role that lasts for seasons. Crook is very well known, and may be that bigger name in the end I guess. I thought one step up in name recognition was possible… and I still hope for it honestly.

    Although Dame Rigg would be a very large get for Thrones too!
    Wait and see I guess….

  117. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    Belwas’s much too small vest would be in need of some serious industrial strength double-sided tape to keep said vest in place! XD

  118. Rogue Hero
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Definitely. I just think there will be a very high profile actor in the season. Thinking from a business perspective, it is just what HBO would need for this show to gain even more spotlight this year in pop culture. I’m pretty confident we’ll see someone unexpected in either a major role or cameo.

  119. Ross
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Despite the evidence to the contrary, I still 100% think Crook is Vargo.

  120. Two Feathers
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Two Feathers,

    Belwas’s much too small vest would be in need of some serious industrial strength double-sided tape to keep said vest in place! XD

    LOL! I think two small vests would be needed..

  121. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Ms Rigg is perfect. She has a very acid wit to boot.

  122. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:54 pm | Permalink

    Hbo can’t distance itself from Linda, elio and her are a couple aren’t they?

    Joshua Taylor:
    OtherAndrew,

    HBO should distance themselves from Linda at all costs. Elio is more levelheaded but Linda is not going to give up especially when season 3 airs.

  123. andre c
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    Crook is best playing comical characters. There is a comical wilding that needs to be cast Tormund.

  124. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    I still feel like maybe HBO is going to pull out a bigger name for Mance Rayder.

  125. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Dolph Lundgren,

    You forgot about the fact that she does the weekly Thronecast web series for the show only and there she doesn’t act at all like she does online but maybe because they pay them to do it, i don’t really know . But it does seem to be a bit hypocritical to shit on the show , not criticise but shit on it like saying that the show it’s a fan fiction story made by the writers and not an adaptation and then going on Thronecast smiling and getting paid for it .

  126. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Diana Rigg was Emma Peel. She invented moxie.

  127. mummer
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Elio and Linda aren’t in any way “spokespeople for the series.” They’re extremely dedicated fans who have put together a humungous website, and who are therefore quoted and interviewed a lot, but they’re always clearly identified as being people who run a specific fan site. And yes, the tone of their complaints about the series can be over the top, but no one’s going to read those unless they go to the Westeros.org message board – which I really don’t think is a place a casual viewer of the show is going to spend much time on; it’s very much a space for the more obsessive type of fan who fully expects to see a certain amount of ranting. I’m not at all worried about people being turned off of the show because of Linda.

  128. sherry
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Adrian Paul for Mance? Or, Hugh Laurie?
    I also think there is a well-known waiting in the wings to surprise us with this role! :)

  129. Omar Brown
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    BelwasBlues,

    The problem is that she is the Uber ASOIAF fan and she hates the show. Yet she is using the popularity of the show to prop herself up. Half of us wouldn’t know who she is had we not heard HBO was making the adaptation.

    I’m not saying she should kiss HBO’s and D and D’s ass but she could act a bit more professional and tone it down. Then again this is the same person who said that she would prefer the show to be completely accurate to the books and be cancelled after a season than to have any deviations from the sacred text.

    Yup, Keep Linda as FAR away from the show producers as possible. That woman is out of her mind. I just worry what kinda poison she is pouring in GRRM’s ears these days.

  130. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    sherry,

    Ha!
    I was just having a Higlander chat with a friend last weekend!

    I have not seen Adrian Paul on anything in a long while. We discussed a few other Highlander franchise actors in Thrones roles too…. Christopher Lambert, Clancy Brown, and Peter Wingfield as Mance Rayder especially.

  131. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    WildSeed,

    Diana Rigg was Emma Peel. She invented moxie.

    THIS.

    Not to mention she tamed James Bond.

  132. andre c
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Diana rigg was in cardiff last week in filming for a dr who episode, she is a busy women if this is true.

  133. WildSeed
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    WildSeed,

    Diana Rigg was Emma Peel. She invented moxie.

    Yes, she did! I wanted to be her when I was little girl watching “the Avengers”
    re-runs. Now? she’s been surpassed by others who benefitted from her work.
    Although the film remake of the show rated poorly, Uma Thurman did a good
    portrayal in that role and has evolved into an even better actress today. Ms Rigg
    is still great, she earned that, but today’s performances are strictly low key as in
    ” Dr Who” and Masterpiece Theatre. I would love to see someone else on GoT.

  134. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/game-of-thrones-gag-order-for-tv-extras-16183187.html

    I’m
    Guessing hbo wants to have a huge spectacle casting announcement at comic con, and you don’t do this I think unless you have names that would generate serious buzz at comic con

  135. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Hahahaa! XD
    Oooops, did we all cause this?

    I bet HBO is a bit annoyed about so many actors (the handful or two) tweeting about their casting or comments related to the series.

    Who knew our sleuthing and posted speculation would lead to gag orders and penalty clauses? XD

  136. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    They’ve always had gag orders. I guess they just figured a reminder was in order. :D

  137. paylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I’d just prefer that she be a little less racist.

  138. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I guess I always assumed they had gag orders etc..

    Maybe with some actors and management agencies lax attitudes and subsequent slip-ups they did feel the need to remind people like you said! XD

    I doubt if we will see anymore CVs accidentally updated before HBO releases official confirmations… Drat!

  139. WildSeed
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: THIS.

    Not to mention she tamed James Bond.

    Which, Patrick McGuen ( prob misspelled) or Roger Moore? These are greats,
    palaeocene mind you but considered standards in their own right. I wonder though
    if we need another ingredient to which Ms Rigg made great ( she was clever,flirty
    and fun ) maybe a different disguise.

  140. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    It all makes sense..no casting news…hall H the biggest stage out there? What better place to have some huge intros?

  141. Biscotti
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    apologies if this has already been posted, but it seems they really are trying to keep a tighter lid on things this year

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/game-of-thrones-gag-order-for-tv-extras-16183187.html

    might explain the lack of casting news, surely they are not going to keep major casting quiet too?!

  142. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    She starred in “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service” with George Lazenby. The only woman who ever married Bond. :)

  143. WildSeed
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    sherry,

    Ha!
    I was just having a Higlander chat with a friend last weekend!

    I have not seen Adrian Paul on anything in a long while. We discussed a few other Highlander franchise actors in Thrones roles too…. Christopher Lambert, Clancy Brown, and Peter Wingfield as Mance Rayder especially.

    Umm .., no mention of Adam Levine ( oops that’s Tom O’Sevens )

  144. paylor
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Oh yes, I LOVED the Avengers when it would play on A&E after school. Diana Riggs was the best Bond Girl and she was paired with the worst Bond. I always wondered what Her Majesty’s Secret Service would have been like if it was Connery in that role instead of Lazenby. She will be fantastic as QoT if it is her.

  145. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,
    Since Richard and Michelle are attending Comic Con, I don’t think they’ll be filming Robb’s scenes this soon. Maybe Oona is just practicing.

  146. MaryS-NJ
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I’ve been saying Peter Wingfield would be the perfect Mance. He fits the physical description and is a musician. However, I don’t know how much acting he’s doing now that he’s in medical school.

  147. Patchyface
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    sherry,

    I would jump up and down LOTS if Hugh Laurie is Mance but someone on WiC already told me that he would be way too pricey. We can always hope–

  148. WildSeed
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Yes, I saw that although I only remember that part. It’s funny, for many years I
    only envisioned actress Ruby Dee in certain roles, her style her voice her beauty,
    now I only see Viola Davis. Can Ms Rigg do this , you betcha’ she is classically
    trained and probably a fuller theatre range than I’m aware of. Yet it is time for
    another to prove her worth. This is cable TV after all. Several days ago I submitted
    Ms Rigg for the role of lady Dustin to which several responses to me were that she
    was “too old”. I’m not aware of that character’s exact age any more than Branden
    Stark but thought it a good choice because I remember Ms Rigg’s talent. Perhaps
    too I’ve typecast her as Emma Peel/James Bond type and not sold on her assuming
    very well the QoT/ Miss Marple facade. Whatever the decision by the GoT admin,
    I will be there to watch in S3. I have a hunch this may be a smaller script than the
    books. If so it would be less screen time but a lasting effect from her influence at
    court and impact elsewhere. Why couldn’t my Grandma yield that kind of power?
    I’d probably be living as a royal myself :D

  149. dd
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    When reading the books, I pictured a young Richard E. Grant as Ramsay Bolton. http://i45.tinypic.com/4trj35.jpg At 55, he’s more Tom of Sevenstreams material now. Or…hmmm…

  150. darquemode
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    MoonCoffee,

    Good point.

    MaryS-NJ,

    Wow! I didn’t know he was going back to med school!
    Good for him!

    Ya that would put a damper on any extender role I guess. Sad that!

  151. WildSeed
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Superdeluxe,

    Hahahaa! XD
    Oooops, did we all cause this?

    I bet HBO is a bit annoyed about so many actors (the handful or two)tweeting about their casting or comments related to the series.

    Who knew our sleuthing and posted speculation would lead to gag orders and penalty clauses? XD

    I’m sure there are those employed to or given assignment to read these Blogs and
    respond or react to the rumors or simply field suggestions. I listened to GRRM
    on youtube from Comic Con 2011 about Jason Momoa’s as an applicant for the
    roll . Listening I was shocked that the idea to screen came from a Blog or fan
    site preference. Apparently we do matter ( somewhat), let’s give em hell. Wait,
    I’m queuing up Billy Idol’s ” Rebel Yell ” :D

  152. The Instrumentalist
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Question: Are we doing the live chat thing again during the SDCC? I really loved it last year, so if would be really great if we did it this year too.

  153. Zack
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Haha, the Diana Rigg speculation wasn’t affecting me initially because her name and associated body of work didn’t spring to mind immediately. But now that I know who she is, I’m remembering some really perfect moments. What a great QoT, if it’s so! :D

  154. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Well said, sir. Well said. She’s got sass in spades. And she’s 75 now. Picture her sitting down in her first appearance, Sansa leans over to greet her, she doesn’t get up (why would she?), seems the sweet grandmother. Then goes about ordering her fool to sing more loudly, screaming at “Right and Left,” yelling about not getting her food quickly enough. Oh, she’s got moxie. Plenty of it.

  155. Alan
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Biscotti:
    apologies if this has already been posted, but it seems they really are trying to keep a tighter lid on things this year

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/game-of-thrones-gag-order-for-tv-extras-16183187.html

    might explain the lack of casting news, surely they are not going to keep major casting quiet too?!

    I’d bet their bigger concern is plot points and less actors.

    I’m not sure it should be – there’s some evidence that spoilers enhance the viewing experience for most people. But this season has a lot of big scenes that I doubt they want actors even spoiling that there’s big scene.

  156. Gatorfisch
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 12:23 am | Permalink

    sherry:
    Adrian Paul for Mance? Or, Hugh Laurie?
    I also think there is a well-known waiting in the wings to surprise us with this role! :)

    OMG, Hugh Laurie would totally make an AMAZING Mance!!!! Ooh, now you’ve ruined Mance for me…if it’s not him, I shall be disappointed….

  157. KG
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Have you ever seen an episode of the Avengers?

  158. Madmage
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    Liam: Liam

    I’d say Ron Perlman or Eccleston could pull off a good Randyl Tarly. I can also see Perlman as Daenal Noye.

  159. Arthur
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    Biscotti,

    apologies if this has already been posted, but it seems they really are trying to keep a tighter lid on things this year

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/game-of-thrones-gag-order-for-tv-extras-16183187.html

    might explain the lack of casting news, surely they are not going to keep major casting quiet too?!

    This makes sense. D&D are trying not to spoil the non-readers and casual viewer in regards to the RW. But D&D keeping wraps on casting news just doesn’t make sense to me. When will we know who plays the Reeds and other peoples favorite new characters being introduced in season 3?

  160. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    sherry:
    Adrian Paul for Mance? Or, Hugh Laurie?
    I also think there is a well-known waiting in the wings to surprise us with this role! :)

    A woman likes the idea of Adrian Paul for Mance, or Sting!

  161. Ryan E
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:12 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: A woman likes the idea of Adrian Paul for Mance, or Sting!

    There can be only one!

    Ok, Crook and Mcginty though – they could play any of a dozen roles, though I think M would be a likely Edmure or BWB member. Crook looks like he could play a ton of roles on the show.

  162. Andrew
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    I shudder to think what will happen if they don’t give us any casting announcements at Comicon. Many an angry fist will be shaken :P

    Which does remind me, I best see when G4 is doing their comicon coverage. I always like watching them do these events, and they’d never skip out on Game of Thrones news.

  163. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    paylor,

    Oh man I totally watched The Avengers on A & E after school. What fricking happened to that network by the way? Terrible programming now. Though Longmire isn’t bad.

    Where was I? Oh yes. I don’t know if Connery would have been believable in OHMSS I think it needed a softer Bond. I don’t know, Connery is my favourite Bond but that guy was a dick! I can’t picture him falling head over heels for a Theresa.

    Even still, OHMSS is my favourite Bond film. Beautifully directed, shot and scored with Diana Rigg’s heroine the heart of the story, and also very loyal to Fleming’s novel. OHMSS was bloody perfect. When I saw Casino Royale it reminded me of OHMSS.

  164. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    I wasn’t aware of this site last year, so just curious… were the casting discussions similiar at this time last summer or did you guys know more? Also, was anyone’s predictions correct? :)

  165. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    Bonnie Blue,

    We knew who Melisandre, Stannis, Davos and Margaery were being played by as of the end of June. So quite different indeed. There is some secrecy going on here. I think speculations of a big casting announcement at comic con may be true. I am going to pay attention to celebrity gossip regarding who is hanging around the San Diego area. Personally I hope to hear the names Jason Isaacs and Gillian Anderson mentioned. Lol. Pipe dreams, but a man can hope no?

  166. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    Speaking of Adrian Paul, I’m pretty sure that when they were casting for the pilot, three years ago, we heard that Adrian was apparently very interested in being a part of the show.

    I used to love Highlander, and I think him – or Peter Wingfield – would fit in nicely.

  167. Bonnie Blue
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Thanks! Yes just curious, it sounds like there is a lot of secrecy, but that is a good thing, I suppose, even though it is driving everyone crazy! We will see how long they can get away with it.

  168. Direhound
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    Just wanted to throw this actor into the mix for sending roles to his agent. Marc-André Grondin. I think he’s french-canadian and I only have his performance in the hockey film Goon but he had a very exotic but handsome emo quality to him. Could work for another of players in Dorne or Essos. Daario is what I was thinking.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0343082/

  169. loco73
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 2:34 am | Permalink

    Nathalie Emmanuel…who…and why?

  170. darquemode
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 2:53 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    Want a Highlander related laugh?

    I was looking into Highlander today trying to think of some of the other actors on it other than Paul and Wingfield. I saw that when they cast for the pilot to the series Marc Singer (Beastmaster) was the front runner for the role… and Alexis Denisof (Wesley on Buffy/Angel) was in the running for Duncan MacLeod also!

    I never knew that and I so cannot picture Wesley Wyndham-Pryce, rogue vampire hunter as Duncan MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod! XD

  171. DGIG
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 5:18 am | Permalink

    Why would the Queen of Thorns be shooting location scenes in Northern Ireland – which usually doubles for the North of Westeros – when all her scenes in ASOS are based in Kings Landing – usually shot on location in the Mediteranean?

  172. Blackfish Blues
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 5:22 am | Permalink

    Carne:
    Might has well post this here.
    ASoS spoilers: Ian McElhinney is back for season 3.

    YAY!

    Michel:
    Carne,
    Nice, but it would be more dramatic for the non readers if he’d be introduced again in “Valar Morghulis”…I’m a little bit worried about Belwas :( I’m gonna cry if they cut him

    Agreed. I hoped it would happen. It would have given some heart to the Dany storyline that to me seemed rambling and boring, IMO.

    BelwasBlues:
    Michel,
    I TOO SHALL CRY IF THEY CUT MY STRONG BELWAS.
    THAT’S IT! FROM THIS MOMENT ONWARD, I SHALL CHANGE MY POSTING NAME TO BELWASBLUES. NO LONGER SHALL I BE OH-BB. ALL THINGS BELWAS, FOREVER.

    It worked for the Blackfish, man.

    LOLOLOL Best of luck! Love the new nick! I wish I had all that power, or I’d change my name more often…

    Direhound:
    I think FAB got Asim to confirm he is shaving his head for Thoros. https://twitter.com/asimaahmad/status/222796607572287488

    Love this Thoros.

    In general: I’m perplexed by the marketing strategy of this casting phase, its publicity aspect.

    On one hand D&D are keen to give the fans (and themselves) every kind of fanservice. On the other they let wild speculations and bitter feelings simmer and explode.

    I understand that this is SDCC weekend and announcements might be made there, but we’ve had nothing, no Froggie, no riddles. OK, GRRM is busy, fine, but he didn’t even address the problem in his not-a-blog. I think Shireen and the Blackfish haven’t been confirmed yet.

    I know nothing about the technical aspect of this, I admit, but actors are filming, they have been SEEN, and we still don’t know what part they play? Personally this does not stoke my interest, it just bores me and makes me care less.

    Wishful thinking: maybe the big big name is some old actor such as Christopher Plummer or Max von Sydow doing a cameo as dying Hoster.

  173. tripitup
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:16 am | Permalink

    DGIG,

    All the King’s Landing interiors – Red Keep/Baelish’s brothel etc – are filmed on soundstages in Belfast’s Paint Hall studio. The Hand’s Tourney from season one, i’m also pretty certain, was filmed in Belfast too.

  174. Mormegil
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:37 am | Permalink

    According to her Agents website Nathalie Emmanuel will be ”
    a returning regular” in GoT and will film her scenes in Morocco.

    http://ajmanagement.co.uk/

    Nothing that we hadn’t already guessed but I think the fact she is listed as a regular eliminates Arriane Martell who I seriously doubt would be in enough episodes this season (if introduced at all) to count as a regular.

    So Dothraki handmaiden/Jhiqui or Missandei.

  175. Wastrel
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:47 am | Permalink

    WildSeed: Yes, she did! I wanted to be her when I was little girl watching “the Avengers”
    re-runs. Now? she’s been surpassed by others who benefitted from her work.
    Although the film remake of the show rated poorly, Uma Thurman did a good
    portrayal in that role and has evolved into an even better actress today. Ms Rigg
    is still great, she earned that, but today’s performances are strictly low key as in
    ” Dr Who” and Masterpiece Theatre. I would love to see someone else on GoT.

    I really wouldn’t describe a guest appearance on Dr Who as ‘low-key’, at least in a British context!
    Other people who have guested on DW in the revived run have included Simon Callow, Simon Pegg, Zoe Wannamaker, Richard Wilson, Brian Cox, Timothy Dalton, Anthony Head, Sir Derek Jacobi, Andrew Garfield, Maureen Lipman, Felicity Kendall, Peter Kay, Roger Lloyd Pack, Kylie Minogue, David Morrissey, Carey Mulligan, John Simm, Michael Gambon, Iain Glen, Tony Curran, Toby Jones, Ian McNeice, Bill Nighy, Michael Sheen, etc.

  176. darquemode
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    Interesting… nice catch!
    Definitely rules out Dornish roles then, I was wondering about Arianne Martell and Taena of Mr too. No longer.

    I lean towards her as Jhiqui I think or maybe a new handmaiden that is Missandei and jhiqui combined. I would prefer to see Missandei be a teen still even if the actress portraying her is not. I think Emmanuel looks too mature to play a tennager.

  177. Mormegil
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    darquemode: I think Emmanuel looks too mature to play a tennager.

    She looks pretty young in the headshots on this page but they may be from a while ago.

    http://www.ajmanagement.co.uk/index.php/actor/nathalie-emmanuel

    Obviously if she is Missandei it’s an older version but I think she can play 16/17 so the same age or slightly younger than Dany.

  178. darquemode
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    She does look younger in the one headshot for sure… I can see that girl as an older teen. Honestly though… I keep picturing the photo of her in the gold dress someone linked on her last month! XD

    http://www.fropki.com/xlmpdt/Rahul/2010/may/10/Nathalie%20Emmanuel/Nathalie-Emmanuel-7.jpg
    http://www.fropki.com/xlmpdt/Rahul/2010/may/10/Nathalie%20Emmanuel/Nathalie-Emmanuel-6.jpg
    http://www.fropki.com/xlmpdt/Rahul/2010/may/10/Nathalie%20Emmanuel/Nathalie-Emmanuel-10.jpg

  179. HouseLark
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    Wastrel: I really wouldn’t describe a guest appearance on Dr Who as ‘low-key’, at least in a British context!
    Other people who have guested on DW in the revived run have included Simon Callow, Simon Pegg, Zoe Wannamaker, Richard Wilson, Brian Cox, Timothy Dalton, Anthony Head, Sir Derek Jacobi, Andrew Garfield, Maureen Lipman, Felicity Kendall, Peter Kay, Roger Lloyd Pack, Kylie Minogue, David Morrissey, Carey Mulligan, John Simm, Michael Gambon, Iain Glen, Tony Curran, Toby Jones, Ian McNeice, Bill Nighy, Michael Sheen, etc.

    Brit actors love the new DW, it’s done an amazing job of gathering the best acting talent in the country, it’s also the most successful sci-fi series the UK has ever produced (at least domestically, I understand Torchwood was popular abroad). I’d love to see Michael Sheen as Mance, he’s one of the most talented and committed actors working today. Sadly, he’s making it big right now, maybe too big for GoT, but you never know.

    Diana Rigg fits the description of a “bit of a legend” at least in the UK. Excellent QoT. I loved her cameo in Extras with Daniel Radcliffe; a game old bird!

  180. Lavignac
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    Direhound: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0343082/

    Marc-André Grondin was the teenage lead in the wonderful movie “C.R.A.Z.Y.” I think Emo is a good way of characterizing him. If Kit Harrington’s ankle delays production, fly this boy across the Atlantic as a stand-in!

  181. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    The Instrumentalist:
    Question: Are we doing the live chat thing again during the SDCC? I really loved it last year, so if would be really great if we did it this year too.

    Yes. :)

  182. DGIG
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    tripitup,

    Yes, I know that. I live in Belfast. Ballyscullion Park doesn’t really suit with any non-North set scenes, though, so wouldn’t really tie in with any external Kings Landing type shots – not that the QoT had any external scenes of note in the books that I can recall, anyhow.

  183. Mr.Bolton
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Hi long time lurker here, found this video from westeros forum which, I hope, confirms that Ramsay is being cast. http://vimeo.com/45300802

  184. MATTHEW
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Omar Brown: Yup, Keep Linda as FAR away from the show producers as possible. That woman is out of her mind. I just worry what kinda poison she is pouring in GRRM’s ears these days.

    No need to cast aspersions on someone’s mental health.

    I don’t know anything about Linda personally, but I agree that her views regarding the show are fairly “out there” and that she is certainly the most strident book purist I have ever ecountered online.

    And I wouldn’t worry about her “poisioning” GRRM or the fans or HBO or anyone else. GRRM loves the show (I genuinely believe that he gets a huge kick out of the show, even when it departs from the book–you can tell from his face when is interviewed about it).

    Just appreciate Linda for what she is: an extreme and amusing outlier who is a superfan of the books and looks at them as dogma.

  185. dizzy_34
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Mr.Bolton,

    Oooo…creepy…not my ideal Ramsey but the lines are good.

  186. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Who’s the girl? Lady Hornwood? Ros?

  187. MATTHEW
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: paylor, Oh man I totally watched The Avengers on A & E after school. What fricking happened to that network by the way? Terrible programming now.

    U no like Hoarders?

    Intervention? Obssessed? Heavy?

    U don’t find exploitation of sufferers of anxiety disorders entertaining?

  188. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    There is some thought that the video scene is between Gilly and the Night’s Watch renegades threatening her. It’s unclear though and could be some kind of Ramsay scene as well.

  189. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    Mr.Bolton, Can’t say I’m thrilled with the sound of that scene. Are we really gonna watch Theon get tortured for a whole year? No names or places in the scene either, and if it is Ramsay, he appears to be playing headgames with Theon, pretending he’s working with Balon. Maybe they’re doing this to obscure Ramsay’s identity for a while to preserve the surprise of the Bolton betrayal? I dunno. Still hard for me to imagine how they’re going to get satisfying drama out of this arc which was totally offscreen in the book.

  190. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues: YAY!

    LOLOLOL Best of luck! Love the new nick! I wish I had all that power, or I’d change my name more often…

    Your dedication to the cause was an inspiration to us all! BELWAS BELWAS BELWAS

    I too am digging this Thoros, but I really hope he’s engaging. I really do like Thoros. Maybe I have a thing for the big-bellied guys of the series.

  191. dizzy_34
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Mmm I don’t know…It really seems like he’s talking to a prisoner, Gilly was never “captured” by the Night’s Watch.

  192. HouseLark
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Joshua Taylor,

    There is some thought that the video scene is between Gilly and the Night’s Watch renegades threatening her. It’s unclear though and could be some kind of Ramsay scene as well.

    He references his victim’s brother, Gilly can’t have brothers. I wondered if the person at the other end of the conversation is Arya maybe when she runs into some of the BWB. It would involve a bit of artistic licence with the BWB characters who were never sadistic but that might be an attempt to heighten the sense of danger for Arya which is fundamental to her development but was dialled down in season two (Harrenhal rarely felt as dangerous as it did in the books). The other really outlandish possibility that occurred to me was that this is a scene between Ramsay and Asha/Yara which would involve a major re-write but it’s not unthinkable anymore.

  193. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    I typed it up so you can give a closer look. At certain points it’s unclear if the offscreen speaker is saying “father” or “brother.” I’m assuming they’re all ‘father’ bc that’s what the onscreen speaker says, and it makes more sense that way (offscreen speaker might’ve messed up once and said ‘brother’ by mistake). Between the ‘father’ stuff, the line about ‘runaways’, and wanting the truth (about Bran and Rickon?) I think at the very least the latter part of the scene has to be Ramsay and Theon:

    R: “Ah. You run from me?” (Spits, slap, slap, slap) “You know what we do to runaways here? Huh? Do you?” (chuckles) “Take off his pants.”
    ?: “No, please, I beg you, I beg you, listen to me.”
    R: “I’m gonna fuck you into the dirt.” (spits)
    ?: “Listen to me, listen, listen.”


    T: “Where is my father? I want to see my father.”
    R: “He doesn’t want to see you.”
    T: “Take me to him. I want to see him now. If you hurt me, my father will kill you.”
    R: “That’s not what he said.”
    T: “Let me go now and no harm will come to you. You have my word.”
    R: “Ahhh, your word, is it? What would you say if I told you that it was your father that ordered this?”
    T: “No. ___.”
    R: “He may have loved you once. But now– no one’s coming for you. Not until you tell me the truth. No?”
    T: “Wait. No — wait. Stop.”
    R: “Tell us the truth.”
    T: ___
    R: “Don’t question. Just answer.”
    T: “Answer what? I don’t know. I don’t know what you want.”
    R: “I want the truth.”
    T: “What truth? All right, I’ll tell you, please–”
    R: “No more excuses”
    T: “I’ll tell you, stop, listen to me. I’ll tell you anything, just tell me what you want, please please please”

  194. The Rabbit
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Thank you for writing down the lines from the video because I ve struggled with some words while listening to it!

    The bit on the father:
    It is not Arya who is interrogated because obviously her father is dead and she knows it.
    I also think it is not Theon either – because:
    a) Balon is far, far from the North
    b) Why would Theon believe Balon would command some Northerners.

    Only person who fits the line: “your father used to love you” is Jaime Lannister and we know that in the books he was captured by the men who were in Tywin s command – but on the other side I do not see at all Jaime begging for mercy in such a way.

    So, I think that Gilly fits the best – and maybe with some little plot change she would get captured by NW renegades, although I am not 100% .

  195. Pepi
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Well … Theon was knocked in the head by the Ironmen in the series … so the second part might be right after he regains his consciousness. Not sure, tho, if Ramsay and Balon are in cahoots on this one … or is Ramsay just playing him. Or were Dagmer&co really following Balon’s orders, which, if true, is cruel even by Balon’s standards.

  196. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit, I think Ramsay is masquerading as an ironborn. Maybe he even told Theon he’s back on Pyke, and that’s why Theon’s demanding to see his father. This would be a way to add some drama and a twist to Theon’s “gets tortured” plotline, retain the Ramsay masquerade element somewhat, and obscure the Bolton betrayal for a while.

    The other important element is that the interrogating character is seeking information. Why would the NW renegades want info from Gilly, and why would they be playing mindgames with her and saying that Craster ordered her torture?

  197. Morgan King
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Cilian Murphy is a horrible Ramsay – how did that idea ever gain traction? He’s a spindly and effete (and awesome!) – nothing like the Flayed-Man-Plate-Armor-wearing overbearingly cruel, generally intimidating deviant scum that the character needs. Iwan Rheon showed he could pull it of on Misfits, but I have no doubt they will cast someone spot-on – they have a great track record.

  198. Kate
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: The problem is that she is the Uber ASOIAF fan and she hates the show. Yet she is using the popularity of the show to prop herself up. Half of us wouldn’t know who she is had we not heard HBO was making the adaptation.

    Linda had been announced as a co-author of a book with George R. R. Martin himself before the show. Linda had been hired by Dabel Brothers as a consultant for the comic adaptation of The Hedge Knight before the show. Linda had designed the shields in GRRM’s homepage before the show. Everyone in GRRM’s fandom knew who Linda was before the show.

    Zack: I definitely agree that it doesn’t help the brand (and is likely detrimental) to have such a public face of the fandom behave like that.

    Ran and Linda are the face of the die-hard book fans. They were the über-fans of the source material from the starting point. It’s only logical that most desviations will make them unhappy. I don’t see why this comes as a surprise.

    And I don’t see why HBO should try to distance from them, either. Their site has a daily traffic of thousands of potential viewers (and from a segment of population that’s likely to purchase DVD’s and merchandising).

    Zack:
    unless they can square themselves to that and keep the criticisms to “How the show works/doesn’t work” rather than “How closely it matches the text” the Westeros screeching is only going to get worse. In contrast, I can say for sure that discussions at WIC have more often than not helped me to see things they’ve done at the show in a more, rather than less, favorable light

    Westeros.org is a site directed to book fans. Winter-is-coming is a site directed to fans of the show. That the former editorials will emphasize in the deviations from the book while the second will judge the show by itself shouldn’t come as a surprise to no one.

  199. Impi
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Could it be Brienne? in the video?

  200. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Impi, I don’t think that makes sense considering the lines about the father ordering the torture. “What would you say if I told you that it was your father that ordered this?” IMO that line only makes sense for Ramsay playing mindgames with Theon.

  201. MATTHEW
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Impi: Could it be Brienne? in the video?

    Brienne does not grovel and beg! How dare you

  202. MATTHEW
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Kate,

    Well said

  203. Impi
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW: Brienne does not grovel and beg!How dare you

    I suppose you are right…. I was just thinking of her Harrenhal adventures. Are we certain that was Ramsay?

  204. Ser WARZ
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    OtherAndrew:
    The Rabbit, I think Ramsay is masquerading as an ironborn. Maybe he even told Theon he’s back on Pyke, and that’s why Theon’s demanding to see his father. This would be a way to add some drama and a twist to Theon’s “gets tortured” plotline, retain the Ramsay masquerade element somewhat, and obscure the Bolton betrayal for a while.

    A chilling thought occurs to me, if there is any weight to this theory then it could indicate that the Dagmar is Ramsey idea is still very much alive. At the very least it may be indicating a collusion between Roose and Balon. I seriously hope it ain’t so.

  205. Brock Russell
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Does anybody else feel like whoever plays Ramsay has to be Oscar worthy? (Well, Emmy worthy.) I’m talking on par with Heath Ledger’s Joker. Whoever they cast has to steel every scene he’s in, almost larger than life. HBO will most likely go with an unknown, but that unknown has to be the cream of the crop. The acting in this show is amazing, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. I put my trust in Nina and D&D and this has to be one of the toughest roles to cast, so please, let’s do it justice.

    I would also like to add that Cillian Murphy has nothing else in the works, nothing even announced. I gasm at the idea of him being announced at Comic Con. Everybody goes crazy, Emilia Clarke asks me out on a date, and I’m able to grow a beard.

  206. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Ser WARZ: A chilling thought occurs to me,if there is any weight to this theory then it could indicate that the Dagmar is Ramsey idea is still very much alive. At the very least it may be indicating a collusion between Roose and Balon. I seriously hope it ain’t so.

    The actor that plays Dagmer said he’s not returning this season . And even so why would they audition for a role they already cast if they could just have brought the previous actor back .

  207. Ser WARZ
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Aaaah, what do I know? I’m drunk.

  208. dizzy_34
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Brock Russell: and I’m able to grow a beard.

    Ha! I find that hard to believe with a name like Brock Russell.

  209. Ross
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    From that video, I would say the off-screen character is either Sansa or Arya

    With the references to brother (Robb) and father (Ned)

    Situation? Either Arya captured by BwB (who were sort of created based on orders from her father) or Sansa captured while trying to escape via Littlefinger (but can’t think who her tormentor would be in this instance)

  210. Knurk
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Kate:

    Zack: I definitely agree that it doesn’t help the brand (and is likely detrimental) to have such a public face of the fandom behave like that.

    Ran and Linda are the face of the die-hard book fans. They were the über-fans of the source material from the starting point. It’s only logical that most desviations will make them unhappy. I don’t see why this comes as a surprise.

    And I don’t see why HBO should try to distance from them, either. Their site has a daily traffic of thousands of potential viewers (and from a segment of population that’s likely to purchase DVD’s and merchandising).

    Noone cares what Linda thinks about the show, she may hate its fucking guts. It’s how she behaves herself on Twitter and Tumblr and voicing her opinion about other fans of the show. Let’s call it unprofessional at best.

  211. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Stuart Martin audition for Ramsay Bolton?

    http://vimeo.com/45300802

  212. Kate
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: Noone cares what Linda thinks about the show, she may hate its fucking guts. It’s how she behaves herself on Twitter and Tumblr and voicing her opinion about other fans of the show. Let’s call it unprofessional at best.

    I do care what Linda thinks about the show.

    And I don’t know which “behaviour” you are referring to, but since twitter and tumblr are not part of her job, I don’t know why anything she does there has to adhere to any “professional” standard.

  213. Lex
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Kate: I do care what Linda thinks about the show.

    And I don’t know which “behaviour” you are referring to, but since twitter and tumblr are not part of her job, I don’t know why anything she does there has to adhere to any “professional” standard.

    I think you are responsible for anything you put out there, on a public internet forum. You can’t just act professional on Thronecast and your own forums, but then act in a very unprofessional manner on twitter and tumblr and assume there’s some sort of difference or separation there. That’s ridiculous. They are all public forums on the internet, and people are going to hold you responsible for your words. From what I’ve seen, Linda treats tumblr as though it’s a completely different venue… but it’s public, and anyone who looks it up can see everything she says on there. Professionalism should go across the board, where public sites are concerned. Someone in her position would do well to keep their highly personal, controversial, or unprofessional comments to private sites.

  214. Knurk
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Kate: I do care what Linda thinks about the show.

    And I don’t know which “behaviour” you are referring to, but since twitter and tumblr are not part of her job, I don’t know why anything she does there has to adhere to any “professional” standard.

    so you would be ok if GRRM went on Twitter and Tumblr and starts searching people who are writing fanfiction and call them sad cunts? Because that is how Linda rolls. I’m fine with you defending her viewpoints of the show, no matter how outrageous some of them are to me, but there is simply no defending her internet behaviour towards fans who do like the show.

  215. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Yeah after reading her tumblr accounts..her opinion has no weight with me whatsoever. I kind of respected her beforehand but no longer.

  216. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    What are you all, a bunch of gossiping, prudish church ladies? Someone’s mean and uses bad language on the Internet — and this deeply, deeply bothers you? Kind of pathetic

  217. WildSeed
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    Wastrel: I really wouldn’t describe a guest appearance on Dr Who as ‘low-key’, at least in a British context!
    Other people who have guested on DW in the revived run have included Simon Callow, Simon Pegg, Zoe Wannamaker, Richard Wilson, Brian Cox, Timothy Dalton, Anthony Head, Sir Derek Jacobi, Andrew Garfield, Maureen Lipman, Felicity Kendall, Peter Kay, Roger Lloyd Pack, Kylie Minogue, David Morrissey, Carey Mulligan, John Simm, Michael Gambon, Iain Glen, Tony Curran, Toby Jones, Ian McNeice, Bill Nighy, Michael Sheen, etc.

    Actually even more prominent actors and actresses have been featured there. Kiley
    Minogue and many others. Matt Smith and David Tennant are no strangers
    to the film theatre either. To understand the context of my POV please read my earlier
    posts. I learned of Joe Dempsie (and the woman who plays Margaery Tyrell ? Dormer)
    just last year by watching BBC America television ( The Fades). Most performers
    have a passion to be on stage, screen or sometimes uncredited cameos. That’s
    definitely a treat for us. The recording industry isn’t much different. It’s always a win.
    That said many once great and senior stars get to have small roles alongside the
    current prominent performers. IMHO Ms Rigg would make an awkward QoT in
    much the same way Mackenzie Crook would make a poor Mountain character
    because of other attributes like size and demeanor. Let’s not forget that Sean Bean
    has significant film credits as do Liam Cunningham and Mark Addy. It was real treat to have such talent.

  218. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    OtherAndrew:
    What are you all, a bunch of gossiping, prudish church ladies? Someone’s mean and uses bad language on the Internet — and this deeply, deeply bothers you? Kind of pathetic

    It seems Linda is just an incredibly unlikeable person. Not just anyone can bring these sort of feelings out in people.

  219. WildSeed
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Mr.Bolton:
    Hi long time lurker here, found this video from westeros forum which, I hope, confirms that Ramsay is being cast. http://vimeo.com/45300802

    Nice reading but I hope the pretty Martin isn’t the choice for fleshy serial killer Ramsey.
    The face of a sociopath actually could be anyone with a pleasant facade yet inside
    harboring a sick twisted degenerate . Luckily GRRM described Ramsay’s physical
    appearance so that we’re not wondering. Exceptions may be made however and I
    hope Bill Skarsgard or that ” Downtown Abbey ” guy ( named in earlier cast rumors)
    gets a reading. Neither are particularly flabby but creep factor increased with those
    menacing pale eyes and paler skin.

  220. Kate
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Lex: Someone in her position would do well to keep their highly personal, controversial, or unprofessional comments to private sites.

    And this… why? Which position exactly should make her withhold her right to free speech? Everyone has a controversial view or two. I prefer people who is sincere about their views that the ones who hide their true opinons for the fear of not pleasing everyone.

    Knurk: so you would be ok if GRRM went on Twitter and Tumblr and starts searching people who are writing fanfiction and call them sad cunts? Because that is how Linda rolls.

    GRRM is strongly against fan fiction and has repeteadly asked fans to avoid writing stories using his setting or characters. Pointing out that doing so is against the author’s wishes is not inconsiderate. But can you provide me the context of the confrontation you are describing? I don’t think you are claiming that Linda just searches asoiaf themed fanfiction on the internet to put “you’re a sad cunt” in the comments section.

  221. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    OtherAndrew:
    What are you all, a bunch of gossiping, prudish church ladies? Someone’s mean and uses bad language on the Internet — and this deeply, deeply bothers you? Kind of pathetic

    And everyone’s “gossiping” bothers you, apparently. Kind of pathetic.

    And as it concerns Linda… In the immortal words of Bronn; “There’s no cure for being a cunt.”

  222. LordStarkington
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Here’s what Linda said about fanfiction, which is one of several outlandish statements that probably are what provoking the reaction some people have:;

    Aww, look at little fantastwatcollective, trying to defend fan-fiction. Its kind of funny. No, not kind of. Its really hilarious.

    Just accept that you’re a sad cunt for supporting an activity that most likely is illegal (yeah, I know it hasn’t been proven either way in court, but there’s plenty of well-informed opinions that support that it would found be illegal if tested) and definitely very rude and a good sign of someone being a shitstain on the world when it goes against an author’s wishes.

    George owns his setting. He owns his characters. He has the right to license any projects he wants and to deny licenses to other. Playing favourites? Aww, sad that you can’t write your Jon/Robb porn to get off all on you own? Seriously, get your cunt-stained fingers off characters that you have no right to use.

    Also, for fuck’s sake, learn English. Fan-fiction. Notice the fiction part? Its not art (that’s fan-art, see the trend?), its not anything else that isn’t fiction.

    I know there are some books there that have been accused of being roleplay sessions turned into stories, but for the most part…yeah, not the same thing. Fictional, maybe, but not fiction.

    I might also add, not that my intended audience has enough reading comprehension to get it, that we do not use book characters on our game simply because its something most authors — even when they approve of their settings being used — are uncomfortable with.

    How about you go write some slashfiction about your neighbour’s children? I am sure you can masturbate to that too.

    The post was deleted (originally at http://hippoiathanatoi.tumblr.com/post/14230317855/aww-look-at-little-fantastwatcollective-trying)

    Personally, I just ignore her about the show. She’s got her stance, I don’t agree with it, and I don’t find her arguments particularly persuasive since she gets caught up in personal attacks all the time. YMMV.

  223. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Kate,

    But she certainly hides her hate for the show when she appears on Thronecast.

    She’s ridiculous.

  224. Michel
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    I can only see the torture scene for Theon/Ramsay, Jaime/Vargo or Gilly/Renegades, i don’t think it’s Arya and the BwB, they are not so cruel..I was thinking a lot in the third option, but like somebody said, why would the NW’s Renegades looking for information from Gilly ?

  225. Knurk
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Kate: GRRM is strongly against fan fiction and has repeteadly asked fans to avoid writing stories using his setting or characters. Pointing out that doing so is against the author’s wishes is not inconsiderate. But can you provide me the context of the confrontation you are describing? I don’t think you are claiming that Linda just searches asoiaf themed fanfiction on the internet to put “you’re a sad cunt” in the comments section.

    I was just giving you one of many examples. Linda has an opinion on a lot of things but fails to see the other side of those things, so when she encounters someone who has an opposite opinion of hers she dismisses it entirely and usually starts using foul language on top of it. I can totally get why Linda hates the show, but when people praise the show she claims ‘people fail to notice the issues’. If you’re looking for her offensive rants just go read her tumblr.

    And edited to say that yes, there is nothing wrong for her pointing out that fanfiction is against the author’s wishes but getting into crazy hissyfits on Tumblr over it is what I called ‘unprofessional at best.’

  226. darquemode
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    I find this whole Linda discussion amusing frankly….

    I have little or no issue with anyone voicing their opinion, from book purist to show worshiper. I think that there is room for all types. The thing I find most annoying (all though very little online ever really upsets me… it’s the internet afterall) is that some of the people who dislike Linda’s agressive and abrasive style seem to feel okay about doing it themselves when they rant about her….

    Personally I agree with the majority of what Linda says (maybe 55%- 65%), but not how she says it much of the time. I agree with Linda and GRRM about fan-fiction. It is anything but an homage to the original work or author. It is stealing their ideas for personal benefit (even if not monetary benefit) and no good comes out of fan-fiction.

    I don’t often read her posts, but as I stated before I think she has some great insight into the books that I find interesting quite often. Sadly I think sometimes her abrasive style works against her quite often too.

    The thing is though, if I read her posts I have no one to be annoyed by but myself. She does not demand me to read it. I am not forced to read it. Does anyone think she writes that way because she is trying to appease the masses? Of course not! She enjoys attacking others … so be it. She is allowed to do that of course.. Likewise I am allowed to not read her posts.

    And now back to our regularly scheduled speculation about casting… and since Linda is not rumored to be cast, I’m moving on.

  227. Kate
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Knurk: Linda has an opinion on a lot of things but fails to see the other side of those things, so when she encounters someone who has an opposite opinion of hers she dismisses it entirely and usually starts using foul language on top of it.

    This was signed by you, in this very same thread:
    Noone cares what Linda thinks about the show, she may hate its fucking guts.
    This is fun. The two things that you dislike about Linda (dismissing the other side and the foul language) conveniently packed in a single sentence. Ace.

    One thing that I haven’t seen her doing, though, is to harshly criticize by name other people at their backs at forums where they can’t defend themselves.

    Knurk:I can totally get why Linda hates the show, but when people praise the show she claims ‘people fail to notice the issues’. If you’re looking for her offensive rants just go read her tumblr.

    I’ve had a look at her tumblr. Yes, she is passionate. Yes, she is convinced about some her views and defends them without quarter. And yes, when she appears at television she beheaves more moderately than when she rants at her tumblr. The horror.

    Come on! Give her a break. Can’t you just ignore her posts?

  228. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    I have a better idea: how about people focus on the topic and not on discussing a non-cast-member person who does not even post here? Thanks!

  229. Knurk
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Great idea, mr. Taylor you derailed the thread once again lol.

  230. Patchyface
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Thanks Fury! Come on people – we have a subject on this string, let’s keep to it. Plenty to discuss without slamming others. Geez

  231. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Knurk,

    Ah man…..

    Sorry guys!

  232. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Brock Russell:
    Does anybody else feel like whoever plays Ramsay has to be Oscar worthy? (Well, Emmy worthy.)I’m talking on par with Heath Ledger’s Joker.Whoever they cast has to steel every scene he’s in, almost larger than life.HBO will most likely go with an unknown, but that unknown has to be the cream of the crop.The acting in this show is amazing, andI don’t see that changing anytime soon.I put my trust in Nina and D&D and this has to be one of the toughest roles to cast, so please, let’s do it justice.

    I would also like to add that Cillian Murphy has nothing else in the works, nothing even announced. I gasm at the idea of him being announced at Comic Con. Everybody goes crazy, Emilia Clarke asks me out on a date, and I’m able to grow a beard.

    A woman thinks everybody probably WILL go CRAZY at the GoT panel no matter what, YOU should ask Ms. Clarke out if you get to meet her (if only to hear her say “Oh that’s lovely of you, but I caaaaaan’t, Sorry” in that wonderful accent), and you can always glue a beard on if you really want to experience that (Jaqen can’t grow one either, just looks like a dirty face). ; – )

  233. Patchyface
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Brock Russell,

    I so hope you’re right! I am hoping for at least one major announcement & C Murphy would fill the bill… Would that be a bigger coup than Steve Buscemi on BWE? It could happen.

  234. Dio Xtozcanox
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    We need some new casting announcements ASAP. With so little to talk about and so little new info since the first rumor/speculation thread… this is exactly what has given life to the topic of Linda and any other completely irrelevant topic in this thread. The lack of info & increase in secrecy has led to this madness! None of us should have time/desire to talk about her or anything else like that. We should be praising/condemning casting choices already :-( .

  235. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    Just want to apologize to everyone on this board for bringing something up (even though I was replying to someone else’s comment). I, some of us enjoy the television series enough to keep it into it’s third season so far. And that’s gotta mean something.

    To get back to the thread topic, is there any intelligence regarding HBO batting down the hatches in preparation for a comic con casting announcement extravaganza?

  236. Steve-O
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Cillian Murphy is asked about being cast on Game of Thrones or 50 shades of Grey. The interviewer kind of let him off the look but his body language looked like he never heard of the role and was sort of insulted that people thought of him for the role when she read to him the physical description of the Ramsay.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/06/27/cillian-murphy-on-red-lights-acting-and-fifty-shades-of-grey-video/?mod=e2tw

  237. Lina
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    Wow, I had no idea Westeros/Linda was such a hot topic. I never got into their site because for me, the design is terribly confusing, but now I have even less of a reason to go there. I just spent the last 15-20 minutes looking through Linda’s various blogs/tumblrs and frankly, her responses to others are pretty terrible.

    I completely agree with Zack and Lex and Knurk and anyone else who said/intimated that she’s being unprofessional. This work involving ASOIAF is her job, or at least one of them. And the Internet is her platform. Those of us who work in offices, restaurants, warehouses, graphic design studios, law firms, you name it…we don’t go around calling anyone who disagrees with us a cunt. So neither should she. Just because it’s online doesn’t make it okay.

    It’s actually not even really an issue of professionalism, but rather just human decency. If someone challenges your viewpoints, you debate and discuss with them. You don’t just call them a name on Twitter. A free speech argument for this situation may be the appropriate legal analysis, but on every other level it just makes no sense. Maybe I’m naive, but I just fail to see how differing opinions on a books/TV/social policy/fanfiction warrant such a response.

  238. PatD
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:41 am | Permalink

    But she certainly hides her hate for the show when she appears on Thronecast.

    This. In spades.

    From the looks of things (and maybe I’m being presumptuous), we’re never again going to see as big a name as Sean Bean’s among this cast. While I don’t think it’s necessary, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed in some of the rumored actors being cited. Seems to me that with this show’s success, at least one or two big star actors could be squeezed into the budget. While Peter D did a wonderful job taking over the lead actor vacuum left by Bean, I personally think the second season would’ve felt more anchored had there been a bona fide “A” lister.

    I’ve been just as pleasantly surprised by many of the little known actors who have been so well cast by Nina Gold as everyone else, but I really think the show would benefit from at least one big name a season.

  239. VaultDweller
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:17 am | Permalink

    I think I mentioned this before last season in some post as well, but if they wanted a “legend” for a stint, then Helen Mirren would be the perfect Queen of Thorns. I’m not yet willing to believe this would be probable or anything, but it sure would be awesome on more levels than I care to count.

    And I have to agree on that having a “big name” for each season would be beneficial for the show in many ways, but especially in long term it would perhaps help keep the show marketable and all that. ( read = keep it on air ) And it’s not like the series doesn’t have enough available roles that could be used to fill those big guest roles with a bit of a tweak.

  240. ASOIAF Fan
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 5:51 am | Permalink

    OtherAndrew: What are you all, a bunch of gossiping, prudish church ladies? Someone’s mean and uses bad language on the Internet — and this deeply, deeply bothers you? Kind of pathetic

    When that person is considered by a very large group of people to be my and your and every book fan’s spokeperson and she act like a kindergarden kid, yes it kind of bothers me personaly.

  241. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 6:59 am | Permalink

    PatD,

    While I see the upswing on having a big name cast every season, I still say give me the Stephen Dillanes, the Lena Heady’s, the Conleth Hills, the Sophie Turners, the Iain Glens, the Michelle Fairley’s, the Charles Dances etc over any big names anyday. It is casting like that which makes this series stand out even from other HBO series. People who expect to see a big name every season aren’t watching the show in my opinion they are watching for the actor. And that’s not what GoT is about. It’s about the characters.

    And for argument’s sake the nabbing of Diana Rigg (if true) is a prestigious cue indeed.

  242. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    PatD,

    And of course in the other reply to you I meant ‘coup’ instead of cue. Stupid iphone!

  243. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    For those uninitiated with the awesomeness that is Diana Rigg:

    First Appearance as Ms. Emma Peel on The Avengers

    She’s a tough yet fun broad. She will be a great QoT if the rumours are true.

  244. Lex
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Steve-O:
    Cillian Murphy is asked about being cast on Game of Thrones or 50 shades of Grey.The interviewer kind of let him off the look but his body language looked like he never heard of the role and was sort of insulted that people thought of him for the role when she read to him the physical description of the Ramsay.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/06/27/cillian-murphy-on-red-lights-acting-and-fifty-shades-of-grey-video/?mod=e2tw

    LOL, that was brutal! Why would she tell him about the “fleshy appearance and large wormy lips”? That came off as so insulting! XD

  245. PatD
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    Joshua, I’m not suggesting that the present casting of relative unknowns be abandoned. I just believe that one big name a season would really benefit the series.

  246. Vanderhook
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    The problem with Cillian Murphy as Ramsay is that outside of his role in Book 2, which was cut out of the TV Series and no logical way to potentially have those scenes now as Winterfell is already burned, Ramsay doesn’t have much to do until Book 5. If Ramsay is going to be introduced this upcoming season, he’d be a minor role as the creators would have to invent scenes. No way they are getting a big name like Cillian Murphy for a minor role

  247. PatD
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    And anyway, what’s with the big secrecy surrounding cast announcements? I just don’t get that. They’ve already started filming the third season, so you know the parts have been filled. I don’t mean to insinuate any sense of entitlement, or anything, but, geez, don’t we as a large and loyal fan base that’s keeping this show on the air at least deserve that much?

    It’s starting to feel like lame manipulation. Just let us in on it, for Pete’s sake.

  248. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    PatD,

    I agree, if we don’t get anything at comic con i’l be pissed .

  249. MATTHEW
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    PatD: And anyway, what’s with the big secrecy surrounding cast announcements? I just don’t get that. They’ve already started filming the third season, so you know the parts have been filled. I don’t mean to insinuate any sense of entitlement, or anything, but, geez, don’t we as a large and loyal fan base that’s keeping this show on the air at least deserve that much? It’s starting to feel like lame manipulation. Just let us in on it, for Pete’s sake.

    I don’t think it’s secrecy for secrey’s sake; and I think they do want to share the info with fans soon.

    The conventional wisdom among fans is that HBO is waiting until tomorrow afternoon, to announce the new cast members live at Comic C on during the Thrones Panel. That way, it’s like a big, super special event.

    I don’t mind them doing it that way, but the wait has been suspenseful!

  250. MATTHEW
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Lina: Wow, I had no idea Westeros/Linda was such a hot topic. I never got into their site because for me, the design is terribly confusing, but now I have even less of a reason to go there. I just spent the last 15-20 minutes looking through Linda’s various blogs/tumblrs and frankly, her responses to others are pretty terrible.

    I’m responding to this not to drag out the Linda-bashing but to speak up on behalf of Westeros.org users. I’m on the website a lot lately; I enjoy the forum (hit me up; I’m Khal Pono), and I enjoy the wiki and find both very useful resources for learning about and discussing the books. I personally don’t find them confusing to navigate.

    Also, I find there is a very healthy mix in the forum of so-called book “purists” and so-called show “apologists” and of people who love the HBO show and people who hate it. I feel free to speak my mind about the show, and there are many other like-minded fans there.

    It’s not as if Linda is lurking in the bushes to bite my head off every time I say I like the show; she rarely posts on the forum, and even more rarely about the show.

  251. Zack
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I could not agree more. I would rather they stay away from “names” because budget is limited and dragons/direwolves/warfare are necessary expenses, and by expenses I mean EXPENSES.

    Plus it’s always fun to discover new talent, especially for those of us who don’t get to see much from an actor’s country of origin.

    And with a bigger name they run the risk of viewers associating the character with the actor himself or one of his well-known past roles, instead of just seeing the ASoIaF character, the actor disappearing.

  252. MATTHEW
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 10:09 am | Permalink

    Zack: Joshua Taylor, I could not agree more. I would rather they stay away from “names” because budget is limited and dragons/direwolves/warfare are necessary expenses, and by expenses I mean EXPENSES. Plus it’s always fun to discover new talent, especially for those of us who don’t get to see much from an actor’s country of origin.And with a bigger name they run the risk of viewers associating the character with the actor himself or one of his well-known past roles, instead of just seeing the ASoIaF character, the actor disappearing.

    What would you say about the Sopranos model? There weren’t any huge recognizable names when the series started out, except Lorraine Bracco (who was perhaps on Sean Bean’s level).

    The introduced a ton of characters as the series progressed, many were relatively unknown actors, but a few bigger names like Steve Buscemi and Juliana Marguiles joined later on.

    Can we perhaps expect a similar pattern here? Or, because GoT is more expensive to produce, is that less likely?

  253. cabbo
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    A friend of mine was in the Belfast bar ‘Lavery’s’ (decent bar but they’re always crowded and, like the rest of the bars in Belfast, it’s crazy expensive), and some of the Night’s Watch cast (John Bradley was one of them) were hanging around with Mackenzie Crook in the bar.

    Who the actor hangs around with and who they do script readings with are two very different things, but it might be worth something.

  254. Zack
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    I think if we see big names at this stage, it’s likely to be for characters who appear only in a few episodes. Such as the case was for Eddard and King Bob as well. For characters whose roles span multiple books, I think the wisest thing to do is to keep budget concerns a primary factor. We already had -two- actors near a Lorraine Bracco level from the start with Dinklage and Headey, plus the aforementioned short-term Bean and Addy.

    The main reason to hire names is to boost the show’s visibility, to make it more of a pop culture smash, right? Which means the most “bang for the buck” they can bring is when a show is relatively new and unknown. Or when a show is widely viewed as ‘running on fumes,’ ‘past its prime,’ et cetera, a big name casting is a way to prolong the inevitable.

    So if I were to guess, I’d say we might see big names, willing to take a pay cut for a memorable run of a limited number of episodes, just to appear on a show that’s already a cultural and critical smash hit. But it’s not too likely they would be for primary characters.

  255. fuelpagan
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Kate: And this… why? Which position exactly should make her withhold her right to free speech?

    A right to free speech simply means the government can’t imprision you or fine you for an opinion you say or write. It has nothing to do with the public going against someone over an opinion the person wrote.

    Anyway, Diana Rigg would be a good choice for QoT. I like the look. Sure hope they announce something soon. I think it would be a bad move by HBO to announce these at Comic Con. I know my initial reaction to the idea of Crook being Mance wasn’t positive. It wasn’t until discussing it here that I came to realize it might be a pretty good choice. And an announcement at Comic Con would be all initial reaction from 100′s of fans. Sure hope this doesn’t backfire.

  256. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Given the myriad of reactions we saw last summer to castings maybe they want to let the actors get comfortable with their roles, with the crew and simply do their job without having to be tweeted to or read about online whether they are good for the part or not.

  257. Direhound
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    https://twitter.com/philipmcginley/status/223442760487813120
    McGinley is definitely cast. This has to be definitive proof at least for me. Now onto speculating who he is. Assuming he’s meeting Hot Pie, Gendry and Arya it’s got to be one of the BWB. My guess is on Berric.

  258. Pepi
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    cabbo,

    Hm … come to think of it, I think it’s very possible, that Mackenzie Crook will take over as one of the Night Watch conspirators … probably Chett. They will probably want to show us some antagonistic behaviour before the coup and Mackenzie, together with a few featured extras, would imo be right for the job. Because the role itself could be expanded … probably more book characters merged into one, or something.

  259. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    cabbo,

    We’d actually heard about that some time ago, from several people who spotted them and tweeted about it. Every cast member was in Belfast that day for the script reading so who he was hanging out with doesn’t matter. Finn Jones and Joe Dempsie were seen with him as well.
    It was discussed in this post: http://winteriscoming.net/2012/06/casting-speculation-roundup/

  260. The Rabbit
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    shshshshhhh!

    http://bertiegilbert.wikia.com/wiki/Bertie_Gilbert just tweeted that he audition for Thrones tomorrow.
    Not related, but could be: young actor Finlay McFarlane http://www.dabr.co.uk/user/The_Finlay_Show is gutted because he has to turn down the audition.

    Gilbert is sixteen and McFarlane is 19 (but looking much younger): are they up for Jojen (aged up a bit) ?

  261. fuelpagan
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: Given the myriad of reactions we saw last summer to castings maybe they want to let the actors get comfortable with their roles, with the crew and simply do their job without having to be tweeted to or read about online whether they are good for the part or not.

    Ummm….that seems to already be happening with many of the actors. The only difference is there hasn’t been an official announcement.

  262. Nick Larter
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Awesome as usual Rabbit!

    Have to say Gilbert looks very littlegrandfatherish :D

  263. KG
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW: I’m responding to this not to drag out the Linda-bashing but to speak up on behalf of Westeros.org users.I’m on the website a lot lately; I enjoy the forum (hit me up; I’m Khal Pono), and I enjoy the wiki and find both very useful resources for learning about and discussing the books.I personally don’t find them confusing to navigate.

    Also, I find there is a very healthy mix in the forum of so-called book “purists” and so-called show “apologists” and of people who love the HBO show and people who hate it.I feel free to speak my mind about the show, and there are many other like-minded fans there.

    It’s not as if Linda is lurking in the bushes to bite my head off every time I say I like the show; she rarely posts on the forum, and even more rarely about the show.

    Yes, well I was in the forums for a while, too. I found it quite unwelcoming to new people and painfully cliquish.

  264. LordStarkington
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit:
    shshshshhhh!

    http://bertiegilbert.wikia.com/wiki/Bertie_Gilbertjust tweeted that he audition for Thrones tomorrow.
    Not related, but could be: young actor Finlay McFarlane http://www.dabr.co.uk/user/The_Finlay_Show is gutted because he has to turn down the audition.

    Gilbert is sixteen and McFarlane is 19 (but looking much younger): are they up for Jojen (aged up a bit) ?

    Sounds like a reasonable guess to me. The kids are all aged up a bit so it’d make sense to do the same with the Reeds.

  265. MaryS-NJ
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    So, apparently Henry Ian Cusick is not returning for Season 2 of Scandal. I would love for him to play Mance (if Peter Wingfield is not acting due to med school schedule).

  266. Direhound
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    I can’t see that Bertie kid calming down enough to give a subdued, wiser-than-thou performance that Jojen would require unless they’re going in a different direction.

  267. Macha
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Little Scorpius Malfoy as Jojen? Wow, talk about a clash of fandoms. :)

  268. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    So Jojen 15-16, Meera 18-20?

  269. Layne Stark
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Direhound:
    https://twitter.com/philipmcginley/status/223442760487813120
    McGinley is definitely cast. This has to be definitive proof at least for me. Now onto speculating who he is. Assuming he’s meeting Hot Pie, Gendry and Arya it’s got to be one of the BWB. My guess is on Berric.

    I was going to bring this up! I agree, I think McGinley is playing Berric.

  270. Two Feathers
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Damn this war wound. Lord TF is missing not being able to throw you hungry dogs a bone, in the form of a cryptic clue or a riddle. Looks like HBO`s big guns have got the small folk petrified.
    Castle Wycnet has plenty of ravens, if you have a message you need to send, use the birds.

  271. Vanderhook
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    MaryS-NJ: So, apparently Henry Ian Cusick is not returning for Season 2 of Scandal. I would love for him to play Mance (if Peter Wingfield is not acting due to med school schedule).

    Yes! I think Henry Ian Cusick is the perfect type of actor for Game of Thrones

  272. LordStarkington
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=63621

    Mads Mikkelsen not actually going to be in Thor 2. I know he’s got his TV series on NBC but one fewer thing on his plate.

  273. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    A woman thinks that Mance is not a big enough part for a major star to want to take unless they’re a MAJOR GoT fan. Think about it, if you’ve read the books you know that Mance appears mainly for one stretch with Jon Snow while planning to attack the Wall and then disappears for a long while after the battle at the wall only to re-emerge after the Mel glamor thing and disappear again on an excursion to save (faux) Arya. So, unless they have a large stretch of un-committed time in the next few years, maybe it wouldn’t be a part that would keep a big star in the fold. And once they’ve got episodes in the can, they don’t want to have to do expensive re-shoots if an actor goes off for something bigger like a big feature film, as they had to do with the pilot. Nor would they want to have to re-cast a major role that’s in post-production or already aired (like the replacement of the Mountain and the re-plot to kill Rakharro). It would seem that D&D have learned those lessons by now, and will cast experienced but not “star” actors for all the remaining parts and make sure they’re contracted for whatever time they’ll be needed going forward. And from the Cillian Murphy interview seen online where the fans’ wish to get him on as Ramsay was mentioned, it didn’t appear that he had any interest in the role nor the books. So, perhaps those ideas of CM as Ramsay and a BIG star as Mance should be shelved?

  274. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,
    Damn Two Feathers! I need news! Don’t by cryptic.

  275. Rogue Hero
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    A man likes where your head is at and always appreciates your comments, but I respectfully disagree. A man feels almost opposite. The characters to be introduced in the next several seasons would all be good for high profile/big name actors, as the storylines are more spread out and can be moved around more easily to fit their schedules. This, of course, is is D&D want one of the actors enough to accommodate for them. A man thinks it would be more difficult to cast a big name for a character consistently in the spotlight for several years, bringing a much larger commitment.
    It is known.

  276. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Superdeluxe:
    So Jojen 15-16, Meera 18-20?

    A woman thinks you are right about that, maybe the actors will be a little older but look younger for their age. Happens all the time. If they’re 18, I think they don’t need tutors, chaperones, work-time restrictions of a child, etc. so it makes sense that these roles will be “aged up” a bit for the show as many others have been.

  277. Rogue Hero
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Also, a man would like to know everyone’s opinion about David Wenham joining the cast at some point. He was born to be in this show.

  278. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Rogue Hero:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    A man likes where your head is at and always appreciates your comments, but I respectfully disagree. A man feels almost opposite. The characters to be introduced in the next several seasons would all be good for high profile/big name actors, as the storylines are more spread out and can be moved around more easily to fit their schedules. This, of course, is is D&D want one of the actors enough to accommodate for them.A man thinks it would be more difficult to cast a big name for a character consistently in the spotlight for several years, bringing a much larger commitment.
    It is known.

    A man’s point is well taken. Scheduling will be a primary concern for whoever takes on these larger new roles, whatever level of “star” they are will probably require an ongoing commitment.

  279. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Rogue Hero:
    Also, a man would like to know everyone’s opinion about David Wenham joining the cast at some point. He was born to be in this show.

    A woman can answer this, Wenham has been mentioned on many casting threads for several years now. Many fans think he would be great as Edmure, and some have mentioned him for Beric Dondarrion. There have been some who don’t like his acting, but mostly positive comments about his suitability for one of those roles have been made. Can’t really speak for “everyone,” but this comment is a summary of what has been written on many casting speculation threads in the past year or so. A woman is sure more fans will chime in here.

  280. darquemode
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Rogue Hero,

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I’m torn on the topic honestly…..
    I think kit depends on who you see as an “A-list”, “B-list” actor really. For example Mackenzie Crook is a very well known (especially to UK audiences) supporting actor, but to me he is a level or two down from say Jason Isaacs since Isaacs has been a leading role in many projects. I think Crook could well be Mance, but if he is not Mance I think someone of equal or even slightly more name recognition could fill Mance’s role….

    If you look at Stannis and Davos, both have a similar amount of page time in ACoK as Mance does in ASoS…. So it may be better to think a well known and respected actor on the level of Stephen Dillane and Liam cunningham, but not necessarily a “big name” will be cast as Mance.

    I think that could rule out many people’s choices. Although I would stil llike to think of a larger name to play along Kit and Rose and help anchor that side of the story…..

    As for Wenham, I like him and think he is about the right level of name recognition Thrones will be casting in some of the nice-sized roles. Edmure and Beric are the 2 roles that jump to mind like Mrs H’ghar stated. I do not see him in either personally, but I can see him doing a good job in either role.

    ETA:
    Personally I thought both Dillane nad Cunningham were pretty big gets for Thrones! I really like both actors a lot and consider them both EXCELLENT actors that do not get the recognition they desrve.

  281. Lin Beifunk
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    A kid will weep if we don’t get some real news tomorrow. :(

  282. Jill
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    So I had a really random thought last night that the most amazing stunt casting I could imaging (based on the noted IMDB blind item in this post, not just generally hoping for major actors) would be Gary Oldman. Possibly as Mance Rayder? It might have been becuase I had some wine, or also because I was watching “Tinker Tailor” and basking in his awesomeness. Most likely a combination of the two. Anyway, it’s not that I think this would be likely, or have any reason to believe it a possibility, but of all big-name, awe- inspiring actors out there, he seems the sort not as beholden to being a “movie-actor” who would take on a television role if it were truly meaty and intriguing to him. Again, not saying it’s likely at all, just spurred on to some idealistic mental casting by the last bullet point of this post.

  283. andrea
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers: Damn this war wound.

    awwwwww :(

  284. Direhound
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:33 am | Permalink
  285. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 2:12 am | Permalink

    Direhound:
    Looks like Diana Rigg is all but confirmed by HBO via the Daily Mail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2172802/Hannah-John-Kamen-whips-fever-ahead-Spice-Girls-musical-Viva-Forever.html

    WOW! A woman believes that would be awesome casting, can’t wait for an HBO confirmation, maybe tomorrow?

  286. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 3:45 am | Permalink

    I have a feeling we will get some casting announcements tomorrow. I am pretty sure Rigg will be our Olenna Redwynne-Tyrell. Consider this the character that Rigg is playing in Dr. Who is called Mrs. GILLYflower. It’s fate is what it is.

    Yep that’s the logic I am going with. :-)

  287. darquemode
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    Direhound,

    Since HBO is so tight-lipped this casting season it’s nice to get some form of confirmation!
    She was not one of the actresses I pictured, but like I have said about this role in particular, there are many UK actresses that could excel in the role. I think Dame Rigg is certainly one of the many!

  288. Macha
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 4:09 am | Permalink

    darquemode: Personally I thought both Dillane nad Cunningham were pretty big gets for Thrones! I really like both actors a lot and consider them both EXCELLENT actors that do not get the recognition they desrve.

    I agree 100%. I remember coming here and reading about them being cast and having to slap myself back into reality simply because I couldn’t believe they managed to get them. This goes for CVH as well. They were certainly ‘big names’ in my book.

  289. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 4:18 am | Permalink

    Macha,

    When I heard that Dillane was cast I squeed whilst everyone else wrinkled their brow. I had no doubt that Dillane as well as Cunningham and Van Houten would excel. While I was ambivalent about her Mel initially (it takes a moment to adjust to her accent and her playing the role straight rather than hocus-pocusy ala the novels) it was the shadow baby birthing scene that sold me on her playing this role. Not to mention her controversial scene with Stannis at the end of the season.

  290. Pepi
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 4:20 am | Permalink

    Direhound,

    That Rigg’s picture … it’s something about her eyes that really reminds me of Natalie Dormer’s Margaery. Awesome! :D

  291. The_Rabbit01
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Rigg is confirmed. hell yeah ;)

  292. Zoud
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I don’t remember last year…
    Did we have any official casting confirmations during SDCC?
    I just can’t wait any longer :)

  293. Carne
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    Isn’t Daily Mail a very untrustworthy site? I wouldn’t take anything they publish as confirmed.

  294. Direhound
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Carne,
    Yes Daily Mail isn’t the New York Times and can be quite the gossip rag but I’m trying to be optimistic. I think she’ll be fantastic.

  295. paylor
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 10:19 am | Permalink

    Mr.Bolton,

    Ugh, that scene sounds terrible. Can’t help showing the tortureporn, can you D&D? From the dialogue though, I’m not sure it’s Ramsey. I had a horrible thought that it was a BwB. He talks about pulling the “boy’s” pants down, saying, do you know what we do with runaways? It sounds like he’s about to rape the other speaker. Then the other speaker is saying that he (or she?) just wants to be taken to his brother. Then the speaker is saying you know who ordered this, it was your father. It seems clear he’s talking to a Stark. If it’s Ramsey, maybe it’s Bran. If it is someone else, I’m betting it’s Arya. It sounds like a terrible, terrible scene that I really hope they cut. Ugh.

  296. paylor
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Kate,

    She’s made a lot of racist comments about casting and some really gross sexist statements on tumblr. So yeah, I would hope anyone with any sense would want to distance themselves from her.

  297. Nick Larter
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Carne:
    Isn’t Daily Mail a very untrustworthy site? I wouldn’t take anything they publish as confirmed.

    Ha Ha, I wouldn’t put money on their source not being this post, that’s for sure :D

  298. paylor
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Sorry, will do.

  299. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    paylor:
    Mr.Bolton,

    Ugh, that scene sounds terrible. Can’t help showing the tortureporn, can you D&D? From the dialogue though, I’m not sure it’s Ramsey. I had a horrible thought that it was a BwB. He talks about pulling the “boy’s” pants down, saying, do you know what we do with runaways? It sounds like he’s about to rape the other speaker. Then the other speaker is saying that he (or she?) just wants to be taken to his brother. Then the speaker is saying you know who ordered this, it was your father. It seems clear he’s talking to a Stark. If it’s Ramsey, maybe it’s Bran. If it is someone else, I’m betting it’s Arya. It sounds like a terrible, terrible scene that I really hope they cut. Ugh.

    Why, if you can’t handle this why are you watching this series in the first place ? What do you prefer they show ponies and flowers ?

  300. Rogue Hero
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    paylor,

    paylor, no room for name-calling. i think the question to you was appropriate. also, your analysis of the conversation seems incorrect. why would anyone say to the stark kids their father ordered something, when they all know he’s dead? i think the stark children is actually the least likely scenario for the conversation in the audition tape.

  301. The Kingslayer
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    I just hope we can get at least one biggish casting for this season, someone along the lines of James Purefoy would be nice.

  302. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    You guys, I got it! That video was for Beric, not Ramsay.

    The whole “your father ordered this.” Ned Stark ordered him to take the men and go against Clegane. Right? Right?? He’s trying to scare Arya and the boys. Though why would he do that knowing it’s Arya? LOL Yeah not so sure anymore.

  303. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    HBO you better give us Casting NEWS

  304. DaveB
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Rogue Hero: paylor, no room for name-calling. i think the question to you was appropriate. also, your analysis of the conversation seems incorrect. why would anyone say to the stark kids their father ordered something, when they all know he’s dead? i think the stark children is actually the least likely scenario for the conversation in the audition tape.

    While I think he’s way wrong as well thinking it’s the BwB, I can see the logic of telling a Stark child their father ordered it. Ned ordered the Dondarrion and the others to bring The Mountain and his men to justice. While their purpose was eventually twisted, they still believed that their actions were in the name of King Robert, and they were ordered by the Hand to do so. So if a BwB member decided to rape someone they thought was being unjust, in their head it could be at “Lord Starks orders.”

    However, I really don’t think it’s them. And I don’t think that audition was necessarily for Ramsey. I think he was auditioning for the part of someone who was allied with Renly, and he’s talking to Brienne. Maybe they add a scene where Brienne and Jaime get captured (at least for a time), and he’s telling Brienne that her own father told them to “do what is necessary to bring her to justice.” They all think she murdered Renly. Or not even someone loyal to Renly. Could be a Brave Companion talking trash. Long shot, but possible.

  305. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    It’s clearly Ramsay in the video. He says to take off ‘his’ pants. He is talking to Theon. They are probably going to keep Ramsay’s identity a secret until a certain betrayal happens.

  306. DaveB
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: It’s clearly Ramsay in the video. He says to take off ‘his’ pants. He is talking to Theon. They are probably going to keep Ramsay’s identity a secret until a certain betrayal happens.

    Yeah, I had my brainstorm, reached a bit, but I think you’re right. Watched it again, and its Ramsey. Makes sense, as he doesn’t appear at all for a while in the books. He’s the one they’ll have to write new scenes for.

    In other news, Diana Rigg confirmed:

    http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/dame-diana-rigg-joins-season-3-of-hbos-game-of-thrones-20120713

  307. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Indiewire sourcing the Daily Mail FYI

  308. DaveB
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    I’ve never heard of the Daily Mail, but I followed the link afterwards and…yikes.

    Nobody else picking up on it, so it looks like I’m the 3rd person to jump the gun.

  309. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    She isn’t confirmed. The Daily Mail is a gossip rag. Notice they don’t provide a source or quote HBO, or a press release or anything. They’re passing on the rumors that started with WiC.

    I do still have hopes she will be announced as cast today at SDCC or soon by HBO. :)

  310. KG
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    The_Rabbit01:
    Rigg is confirmed. hell yeah ;)

    Holy shit. My The Avengers fan heart might just pop over this news.

  311. Nick Larter
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Young Mr. Gilbert has this to say about his audition:-

    https://twitter.com/Bertwg97/status/223819699631296513

    Whaddya reckon?

    a) Red herring;
    b) He’s not auditioned Jojen;
    c) He has auditioned Jojen but they’re killing him in S3 as he’s so irritating;
    d) They just cobbled together any old sides for the reading?

  312. OhDanyBoy
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter,

    Can’t read twitter from here – could you quote the tweet?

  313. Nick Larter
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    OhDanyBoy:
    Nick Larter,

    Can’t read twitter from here – could you quote the tweet?

    audition went well. had to die very aggressively. fun fun

  314. Macha
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter: Whaddya reckon?

    a) Red herring;
    b) He’s not auditioned Jojen;
    c) He has auditioned Jojen but they’re killing him in S3 as he’s so irritating;
    d) They just cobbled together any old sides for the reading?

    I remember Gemma Whelan was also asked to perform a certain act for her audition that wasn’t in the final script (or the books for that matter, if my memory serves me correctly), so I think it’s highly possible this is either a red herring or that the audition was not for Jojen. But then who? IMO, there is no way in hell they’ll cast Jojen and kill him in S3, especially seing how his fate is still uncertain after ADWD.

  315. alex
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    :(((( why no Greatjon? I love his character

  316. MATTHEW
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    DaveB: I’ve never heard of the Daily Mail, but I followed the link afterwards and…yikes.Nobody else picking up on it, so it looks like I’m the 3rd person to jump the gun.

    I’m from the U.S. so the only time I ever heard of the Daily Mail is in the Smiths lyrics:

    Don’t you ever crave
    to appear on the cover of the Daily Mail
    dressed in your mother’s bridal veil?

  317. DaveB
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW: I’m from the U.S. so the only time I ever heard of the Daily Mail is in the Smiths lyrics:

    Don’t you ever crave
    to appear on the cover of the Daily Mail
    dressed in your mother’s bridal veil?

    Heh, never made that connection.
    Hopefully this is my first and last interaction with the Daily Mail

  318. Ren Snow
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    According to Westeros.org:

    * Tobias Menzies will play Edmure Tully
    * Philip McGinley will play Anguy the Archer, a Dornishman in the BWB
    * Tara Fitzgerald will play Queen Selyse

    https://twitter.com/westerosorg/status/223902290506035200

  319. timpostor
    Posted July 16, 2012 at 4:10 am | Permalink

    Now that Vargo is still an open role, I’m throwing Matt King [Super Hans from Peep show] into the mix. A comedian, but check him out. I think he would be perfect and he’s a brilliant hilarious crackhead on Peep Show.

    http://www.comedy.co.uk/images/library/people/180×200/p/peep_show_super_hans.jpg
    http://unitedagents.co.uk/sites/default/files/Matt%20King.jpg
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0455057/

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