Comic Con interview roundup
By Winter Is Coming on in Events, Press.

A bunch of interviews came out of last weekend’s Comic Con. Here is a roundup of those that I could find. If you see any I missed, link them in the comments and I will add them to the post!

Access Hollywood talks to Rose Leslie

Access Hollywood talks to Emilia Clarke

Access Hollywood talks to Michelle Fairley

Access Hollywood talks to George R. R. Martin

MTV News talks to GRRM

MTV talks to Allen, Fairley, Madden and Clarke about new cast members

BuzzSugar talks to GRRM


88 Comments

  1. Ash
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    First!!

  2. spacechampion
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Nice to hear from Michelle that fans are always respectful when approaching.

  3. Cristian Modesto
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Come on, James Purefoy as Mance Ryder. He had a supporting role in Episodes, for the love of god, don’t tell me he can’t be convinced to star in Game of Thrones.

  4. Perkins
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    I like GRRM saying there is a good chance Alfie Allen will be back, hopefully in a torture/transformation into reek style scenes?

  5. Josh Parker
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Cristian Modesto,

    I still think he should be the Crow’s Eye and Mance should be played by someone more unassuming. Paul McGann or Julian Rhind-Tutt are my two top choices for that role, and both would be probably more affordable.

    And I really hope no one brings up Joe Campo for this role. I’d love to see him in the series, but not as Mance, because he’s just too young. He’d make an excellent Reek, however.

  6. OhDanyBoy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Game of Thrones is certainly mainstream. Another ESPN/Grantland reference – this time as a backdrop for a Simmons article.

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8182261/game-nba-thrones-part-i

  7. Balerion
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    I think they are pushing Ramsay Bolton back to season 4. Am i right?

  8. Superdeluxe
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Rose: “I’m not ready for love scenes, it might be weird lol”

  9. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    A woman is grateful for your post. Thanks for pulling the interviews together for our convenience, it’s so kind of you to oblige us.

  10. TheRealMountain
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Enough with the whole “A woman is…” schtick. Get a grip on reality

  11. Clob
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Three pretty ladies… and then George. :)
    Thanks for compiling.
    I hope they do the cave scene. I don’t care if it’s weird to film. ;)

  12. Hello and Goodbye
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Great Interviews, there is actually some real new information embedded

    The Red Wedding definitly in season 3!
    Ramsay should be in (cant imagine a Theon arc without Ramsay)
    Mance Rayder in Ep1 or 2

    It also seems the RW is in Ep7, which is written by GRRM. The chapters around the RW are explicitly very very rainy and he is spoiling lots of rain in his episode. Of course this could also be a reference to the Rains of Castamere.
    And if the RW is in Ep7 is seems likely that another wedding may be also in the season, possibly in the last episode

  13. Julian Walker
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Not related to Game of Thrones but I will pray for those families of the victims of the Dark Knight Rises midnight shooting.

  14. Cavegirl
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Iain Glen, Finn Jones, Maisie Williams, Miltos Yerolemou, Roxanne McKee, Joe Dempsie, Natalia Tena and Jason Momoa are going to attend RingCon in Bonn in October. Juri Stanossek who’s done visual effects for Game of Thrones will join them.

    http://www.ringcon.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=67&lang=en

  15. Knight of Farts
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Regarding Theon

    It’s only logical to show the whole transformation into Reek, and not leave him out for two seasons and go straight to Reek. After all we learn about his torture almost solely through inner dialogue and flashbacks. Showing the whole process makes much more sense when it’s shown in a TV medium. Frankly it’s the only way to give it justice.

  16. Shinyteapot
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Hello and Goodbye,
    GRRM said he wasn’t doing the episode ‘represented by a colour’. I’d guess his is the one before RW, which leaves time for another W in episode 10- and I hope it happens.

    Something I’ve been wondering ever since reading the book- Melisandre performs a ritual involving leeches. We don’t know if she really did something to influence events, or saw the future in her flames and used a bit of theatre to let Stannis think it was down to her. I hope the show lets us know which it is!

  17. sjwenings
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Shinyteapot,

    If so, I hope that she is not the one that actually made those deaths happen, as that just makes her too powerful, and gives those events less substance, or whatever.

  18. Shinyteapot
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    I’m tending towards that conclusion based on her chapter in ADWD, but it occurs to me that if she truly is responsible, at least in part (the Freys are not absolved!) it adds another dimension to her interactions with Jon.

  19. Zacky
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Seriously, Rose is the perfect woman, hot, nice, funny, good at what she does (You know nothing Jon Snow). I’m falling in love, but Emilia will always be number #1.

  20. Theon Rules!
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Julian Walker:
    Not related to Game of Thrones but I will pray for those families of the victims of the Dark Knight Rises midnightshooting.

    Agreed. This has me all shook up. What kind of world do we live in that we can’t even be safe at the movies?

    RIP to those lost and condolences to the families.

  21. Luke
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Rose is so dreamy, can’t wait to see her naked. >:D

  22. Giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Cristian Modesto,

    I was thnking James Purefoy as the RedViper. He is perfect for that role. The scenes with Purefoy as the Viper and Tyrion would be classic.

  23. Eleanor
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Both Rose Leslie and Nathalie Emmanuel are rocking the schoolgirl look, aren’t they? With the white collars above the high-necked coloured tops.

  24. Giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    James Purfefoy is perfect as Oberyn Martell – the Red Viper.
    Ciaran Hind who played Julius Caesar on HBO’s Rome would be perfect as Doran Martell. Reunite these 2 great actors as Oberyn and Doran Martell. Perfect casting!

  25. hotsprings
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    According to this post on Tumblr, it seems that they are filming Theon’s transformation into Reek which means we will probably (hopefully) see Ramsay in S3.

  26. Eleanor
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    TheRealMountain,

    Nothing wrong with having a theme.

  27. queenofthorns
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Hello and Goodbye,

    If this happens there is nothing left for Season 4.

  28. NewJeffCT
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    hmm, no comment on Strong Belwas. That sounds like a “no” to me.

  29. Eleanor
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    NewJeffCT

    hmm, no comment on Strong Belwas. That sounds like a “no” to me.

    Not necessarily. I remember when a WiC commenter asked GRRM after a signing if the Blackfish would be in and got a no comment. Personally I interpreted that as a no and was wrong – hopefully you are wrong here!

  30. Eleanor
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    queenofthorns:
    Hello and Goodbye,

    If this happens there is nothing left for Season 4.

    I do wonder though if the colourless wedding might happen at the end. Definitely a GASP moment.

  31. MATTHEW
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    TheRealMountain: Mrs. H’ghar, Enough with the whole “A woman is…” schtick. Get a grip on reality

    And I suppose you’re REALLY the mountain, or is that just schtick?

  32. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Giddy,

    Purefoy is white. The Dornish are described as having darker skin. Middle Eastern or Mediterranen is how they look. I don’t know why so many people bring up Purefoy for this role. Frankly I don’t get the whole Purefoy fascination. The guy was good on Rome. I get it, but it’s not like he is some huge star that people treat him as. Name a role on GOT and I’ve seen someone suggest Purefoy to play them. The Hound,Jaime,Oberyn,Stannis,Ned,Jorah,Davos,Daario,Jory, and dozens more. He must wish that he was as in demand as Game of Thrones’ fans seem to think he is.

  33. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    James Purefoy is perfect for Oberyn Martell. The charachter is decribed as being extremely confident, cunning, sarcastic, a womanizer, and deadly. You also have to factor in that a lot of the Red Viper’s scenes are going to be with Peter Dinklage who is a master at sarcasm. Purefoy showed an excellent sense of humour on Rome and also the ability to convincing as both a soldier and as a womanizer. He is perfect the role of Oberyn Martell and he would have great chemistry with Dinklage in my opinion. He also has brown hair and brown eyes. With a tan and some help from the GOT make up department he easily looks the part of the Red Viper.

  34. Eleanor
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: Frankly I don’t get the whole Purefoy fascination. Name a role on GOT and I’ve seen someone suggest Purefoy to play them. The Hound,Jaime,Oberyn,Stannis,Ned,Jorah,Davos,Daario,Jory, and dozens more.

    Heresy! James Purefoy for Strong Belwas

  35. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    You’re wrong Purefoy is perfect. He does look Mediterranean. He could easily pass for Greek and besides that he is perfect for the part of the Red Viper. You need somebody believable as a soldier, a womanizer, a scoundrel,with a sharp wit who can hold their own with Peter Dinklage. Purefoy is perfect for Oberyn Martell.

  36. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Ciaran Hind and James Purefoy are also believable as the Martell brothers. They were great together in Rome. Ciarn who played Julius Caesar in Rome looks mediterranean and he is a great actor. He’s perfectly cast as Doran Martell. He can easily pull off the part of the methodical, patient, and cunning Doran Martell. Purefoy, who is great in roles where the charachter has a quick temper, lack of patience, and a sharp wit would compliment Ciaran Hind perfectly as his younger brother Oberyn

  37. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Who was the big guy in the Green Mile who played John Coffey? That’s Strong Belwas.

  38. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    giddy,

    Purefoy and Hind actually did a similar double-act together in JOHN CARTER as well.

    Purefoy as Oberyn is possible (although I strongly suspect that Oberyn will be delayed until Season 4 now) but I doubt HBO would cast them together. Might come across as a little gimmicky.

  39. K26dp
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    I know it would never happen because they aren’t European, but I’ve always pictured Edward James Olmos as Dorian and Antonio Banderas as Oberon.

  40. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Oded Fehr: http://images.wikia.com/residentevil/images/7/7b/Oded_Fehr.jpg

    That is what the Red Viper is supposed to look like.

  41. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    That picture is a picture of the actor from the Mummy. I am sorry that man is not a strong enough actor to play the Red Viper. You need an actor who can hold their own with Peter Dinklage. Purefoy is a much better choice because he is a better actor and more believable as a cocky womanizer who can fight. He proved this in Rome. As far as the casting of the role of Doran Martell is concerned Ciran Hind DEFINITELY looks the part. He would be great. These 2 actors are very believable as the Martell brothers. They work well together as was evidenced in Rome which was one of the best tv series ever on HBO. So if the writers want to give them scenes together there is chemistry. If the writers stick to the books and do not give them scenes together you still get 2 actors who are very convincing characther actors playing roles in political dramas that are historical. This is a win win for HBO, for fans, and for ratings.

  42. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    giddy,

    Yeah, because Oded Fehr doesn’t know how to play a womanizer or fight. And he is a good actor. Purefoy isn’t exactly Christian Bale. So quit exaggerating his talents.

  43. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    And just to be clear, I’m not trying to disparage Purefoy as an actor. I just don’t want him playing the Red Viper of Dorne. The Dornish have to be exotic looking. Purefoy would work as Victarion.

  44. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    One of the flaws with suggesting Purefoy as the Viper is that he wouldn’t be around for very long. Whilst if he was say Victarion (a great idea, actually) he’d be around for a lot longer.

  45. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    The Red Viper is going to have scenes with the Lanisters – Charles Dance, Peter Dinklage, and Lena Headey. Those are arguably the 3 strongest actors on the show other than perhaps Maise Williams. You need an actor who can hold his own with these actors. I’m sorry but I’ll take an actor from a strong show like Rome any day over an actor from a weak movie like the Mummy to work opposite the great actors in Kings Landing. Purefoy is perfect

  46. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    giddy,

    First of all, the first Mummy movie was awesome. Second, it featured Rachel Weisz, who is a great actress. I could just as easily point out that Purefoy was in the Starz series ‘Camelot’, which sucked. IMO.

  47. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    The Mummy was not awesome. The special effects were awesome. The acting was laughable

  48. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    I don’t get your Christisan Bale analogy. Purefoy did a better job playing Marc Antony in Rome than Christian Bale would have. So while he may not be Bale, he is actually better than Bale for certain types of roles. Oded Fehr….get serious….you say Purefoy isn’t Bale but Oded Fehr is?

  49. LordStarkington
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    giddy:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    The Mummy was not awesome. The special effects were awesome. The acting was laughable

    The movie’s an amiable/loving parody/imitation type version of pulp-type films like Indiana Jones, so looking for Oscar-caliber acting is kind of missing the point.

    That being said, I love the first Mummy movie too so color me biased :p

  50. giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    LordStarkington,

    If you want to say that a movie like the Mummy has better acting than a series like Rome than who am I to argue. To me the actor in Rome did not have the budget or the special effects of a movie like the Mummy and even still Rome was more entertaining and better acted. It is a matter of personal taste. I enjoyed the Mummy but it wasn’t a great movie. Rome, on the other hand, is one of the best dramas HBO has done. The acting was amazing. Like Game of Thrones Rome had a huge cast and it was a political drama. They have already hired one of the actors who played Brutus in Rome to play Catelyn Tully’s brother. They should take the next step and also try and get Ciaran Hind an James Purefoy for the parts of Doran and Oberyn Martell. Both men are phenomenal actors with dark features who look Mediterranean and who will be fantastic as the leads actors in House Martell. These opinions are always subjective. Different people will envision different actors playing their favorite charachters. I do know that if you google casting Doran Martell and google casting Oberyn Martell Red Viper that you’ll see that many other fans also feel that these 2 actors should be considered for these great parts in Game of Thrones.
    It would also be nice if at some point they shot a flashback scene with Raegar Targaryan and Lyanna Stark as their backstory is a very important part of the show

  51. Mummer's farts
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    giddy,

    He’d do well but Michael Clarke Duncan is still in the hospital after a heart attack.

  52. Virtus
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    I liked the first Mummy. But the Tomb of the Dragon Emperor was maybe the worst movie ever.

  53. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    giddy,

    Dude James Purefoy sucks , get over it ! If you like him that doesn’t mean everyone does.

  54. Giddy
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Whatever. Rome was a great show and the cast was amazing. Like I said these choices are subjective. Some folks will like my choices and some won’t. No skin off my back. They probably won’t cast the Martells until the 4th season so the producers will have plenty of time to think about it and decide. They’ve done a great job casting so far so I am sure that whoever they get will be good

  55. Abyss
    Posted July 20, 2012 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    Two more interviews from Comic-Con. Both have spoilers.

    George R.R. Martin
    Alfie Allen

  56. Luana
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    giddy:

    James Purefoy is perfect for Oberyn Martell.
    (…)
    With a tan and some help from the GOT make up department he easily looks the part of the Red Viper.

    Uh, did you really just suggest casting a white actor wearing yellowface/blackface as a POC character?

  57. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Luana,

    The character is described as Mediterranean looking and as I said before casting is subjective. I am not the first person to suggest casting Purefoy. This is a suggestion made all over the Internet. The guy could easily pass for Greek (mediterranean). If you want to play the race card and obssess about that then go right ahead. That’s your issue. I stand by my opinion and many others share it. You are welcome to whatever opinions you choose. Cheers. Saying that the guy should be tan for the part is not the same thing as saying he should wear black face. I am not gonna play your game. No thanks.

  58. Rygar
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 1:11 am | Permalink

    Belwas will be played by Jeremy Piven. Yep.

  59. Drfunk
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 1:21 am | Permalink

    Luana: Uh, did you really just suggest casting a white actor wearing yellowface/blackface as a POC character?

    Giddy:
    Luana,

    The character is described as Mediterranean looking and as I said before casting is subjective. I am not the first person to suggest casting Purefoy. This is a suggestion made all over the Internet. The guy could easily pass for Greek (mediterranean). If you want to play the race card and obssess about that then go right ahead. That’s your issue. I stand by my opinion and many others share it. You are welcome to whatever opinions you choose. Cheers. Saying that the guy should be tan for the part is not the same thing as saying he should wear black face. I am not gonna play your game. No thanks.

    I totally agree with Giddy. First of all where is all this racial head count keep popping up? Seriously. Did people count how many ethnic people were in the series and lamented how there’s too many caucasians? If so that’s a pretty sad way to have experienced this material. Why can’t people just focus on the plot, character development and awesome story arcs just like the books? I would sincerely hope they cast mr ducksauce as a summer islander BECAUSE HE HAPPENED TO BE THE BEST CANDIDATE AT THE TIME, however the cynical side of me thinks it was a PR move by HBO to appease the short sighted people who cares and keeps track of such things.

    Now if we talk about the Viper specifically, anyone who has watched Rome knows that Purefoy’s Anthony WAS the Viper. Biting humour, sharp wit, womanizer, bold and a bad ass warrior. I’m sure there’s plenty of great unknown talents out there, but why risk it when you got an actor who can nail the part? If Purefoy ends up getting cast as the Viper hypothetically which of these scenarios would be ideal for you?

    1. They make him look more ethnic by using heavy makeup to darken his skin color even more. So white guy pretending to be a brown guy.

    2. Leave him as he is with maybe a tan. Cause really, aside from book worshiper who actually gives a @#$@ what race he is the general masses will have no idea what race the Viper is suppose to be, let alone his real name.

    3. Hire some actor based on his ethnicity first and talent second. Because in the big scheme of things you can forgive that :

    a. The Targs do not have purple eyes
    b. Ros
    c. Middlefinger
    d.Shae…
    e.gate or all gates this site has ever talked about.

    BUT IF THEY DON’T HAVE A GENUINE BROWN VIPER YOU WILL FLIP THE TABLE AND GO !#@!!#@!.

    Seriously.. I don’t care what color the Viper ends up. If you have someone that will outshine Purefoy on his performance then I’ll gladly be proven wrong. Just don’t preach about we need to hire X amount of ethnic people. The show is not the books, just like how Starbuck was changed to a chick in the reimagined BSG, they can certainly make the Viper into w/e the hell they want.

    In fact, since I’m asian I vote for an Asian Viper. So let’s hire some dude that has mad skills with a spear and knows kung fu. Seriously, where are my asian homies on this show? HBO is SO RACIST! RAWR! See how fu@#$@ retarded that sounds? Talent>Race ALWAYS.

  60. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    Drfunk,

    DrFunk thank you for that great post. Just like you said, anybody who has watched Rome knows that Antony WAS the Viper. That was my thought process exactly. I never for an instant even thought about race and never would. As a fan of the books I was hoping for an actor who could nail the part. I appreciate your great post. Cheers.

  61. Alex Also
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    TheRealMountain:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Enough with the whole “A woman is…” schtick.Get a grip on reality

    Mrs H’ghar’s comments are always pertinent and show a firm grip on reality. Her character is fun. Being mean to her is ill-mannered – besides do you know who she’s married to?

  62. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 2:22 am | Permalink

    Drfunk,

    I respectfully disagree. The Dornish need to be more ethnic looking. They are diffeent from the rest of Westeros and they are described that way.

    The people of Dorne. There are three distinct groups of Dornishmen: the salty Dornishmen of the coast, the sandy Dornishmen of the deserts and river valleys, and the stony Dornishmen who live in the Red Mountains. The salty Dornishmen have the most Rhoynish blood, while the stony Dornishmen have the least. The salty Dornishmen are lithe and olive skinned, the sandy Dornishmen are dark brown, and the mountain Dornishmen, descended from the Andals and the First Men, are bigger with brown or blond hair.

    There are plenty of great olive skinned or darker skinned actors who could play the Viper. I suspect that is the direction Nina and the producers will decide to go in, especially considering the lack of non-white characters on the show.

  63. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 2:43 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I think you are missing the point of DrFunk which is that the producers are going to do what they want. They recently cast Missandei. In the books she is a little girl. On the show she is going to be a grown woman. The whole point is to capture the spirit of what Martin was trying to get across in the books. You can’t always get the details right: I don’t think the producers or GRRM say to themselves that a charachter like the Viper has to look a certain ethnicity. I think they’d rather have the best actor possible who is close enough. Maybe that is Purefoy or maybe it is somebody more ethnic. The whole point is that the whole thing is subjective and the best actor should get the role.

  64. Drfunk
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:00 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Drfunk,

    I respectfully disagree. The Dornish need to be more ethnic looking. They are diffeent from the rest of Westeros and they are described that way.

    Thereare plenty of great olive skinned or darker skinned actors who could play the Viper.I suspect that is the direction Nina and the producers will decide to go in, especially considering the lack of non-white characters on the show.

    I respectfully disagree with the notion that anything needs to look absolutely like the source material. For the record, I am one of those book readers who lately seems to be ostracized for speaking our opinions (like poor Linda). I do care about the little details which they could have added to make it more authentic. The thing is, there are issues and greater issues. I was more incensed at the liberties some writer/actors took on their take of a particular character rather than how they “looked”. Did it bother me the targs don’t have silvery hair and purple eyes? Sure, did I think twice about it after watching the first episode? Not really. See the Viper’s skin color would fall under that category of “who really gives a @#$@” what color he is as long as he’s awesome. There has been enough changes into the source material that the notion of they must race cast the Viper because it’ll somehow make the show more engrossing is absolutely laughable.

    I do not deny there are great talents around the world. You are also correct, perhaps the best Viper “could” be one that’s already with a Mediterranean look. It’s a gamble on a pretty key character. So what do you do? Go with a sure thing in Purefoy? Or gamble it with a random actor and hope he’s half decent?

    I also disrespectfully disagree with your last statement. Since when is GoT about race? By your logic, every single oriental asians should be screaming at HBO for not having any representation. You think the majority of us care? In fact, if an oriental actor actually get cast into the show I would hope it’s because THEY HAPPEN TO BE THE BEST AVAILABLE AT THE TIME and not because they want a token asian person.

    Even if we set aside our little disagreement, let’s take the perspective of the casual fan who watched the show and never read the books. There’s 928349328932 characters in the show, with 9283493283923 events happening on top of 982934382942 boob shots from Adam Friedman while Tyrion does his stand up gig on the meaning of life. Do you seriously think they will CARE if the Viper is brown, black, white, yellow? The Viper is basically Tyrion and Bronn doing a Dragonball Z fusion. Call me an optimist but I seriously doubt they will care what race the Viper is. In fact, if they keep referring to him as the Red Viper I doubt people will remember his actual name.

  65. Luana
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:04 am | Permalink

    Giddy,

    The point:
    ~~~~*
    You.

  66. Drfunk
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:16 am | Permalink

    Luana:
    Giddy,

    The point:
    ~~~~*
    You.

    ( •_•)
    Looks like Luana has finally……
    ( •_•)>¬¦-¦
    Forgotten how to spell above
    (¬¦_¦)
    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  67. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Luana,

    Whatever. Cheers.

  68. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:48 am | Permalink

    DrFunk,

    Enjoyed your comments. Very refreshing to hear somebody who gets it and isn’t filled with hate. Some people keep score of everything and choke on political correctness while losing sight of common sense. You keep it real. Truth.

  69. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:53 am | Permalink

    We’re not talking just about Oberyn but an entire race of people who inhabit Dorne. To me part of the appeal of Dorne is that it is distinctly different from the rest of Westeros. They are descended from a completely seperate race, the Roynish. What the hell is the purpose of Martin creatng different races of people if they all look the same? The producers have shown that they do like to portray the races in the show as GRRM described them. The Targaryens still have their silvery/platinum hair. Xaro Xhoan Daxos was changed, but they made sure to let it be known that the show’s version of him was a Summer Islander. In the casting call for Daario they specifically stated that they were looking for non-caucasion actors. The world that GRRM created is diverse. Casting a guy who looks like he should be from the North as a Dornishman simply does not demonstrate that.

  70. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:57 am | Permalink

    What have I said that was hateful or politically correct? I didn’t agree with you guys about a white dude playing a Dornishman. Big deal.

  71. Luana
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:58 am | Permalink

    Giddy,

    Just a little FYI, darling. When you say something that offends people, the normal thing to do is stop and think about WHY what you said is offensive.

    But I see by your responses that it’s pointless to try to explain to you what’s wrong with your suggestion that James Purefoy should get a tan and “a little help from the GoT makeup department” in order to portray a Martell.

  72. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 4:08 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Tyrion, I wasn’t talking about you. I get where you’re coming from. I don’t see why anybody should be made to feel bad about the actors they enjoy watching who they think will be best for a particular role. I am sure the producers will do the best they can to be as true to GRRM and also get the best actors possible. Whatever happens not all fans are gonna be happy because that’s impossible.

  73. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 4:09 am | Permalink
  74. Luana
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 4:16 am | Permalink

    Giddy:
    DrFunk,

    Enjoyed your comments. Very refreshing to hear somebody who gets it and isn’t filled with hate. Some people keep score of everything and choke on political correctness while losing sight of common sense. You keep it real. Truth.

    Oh, yah, hateful. This, coming from the person who has filled the entire thread with a stream of vitriol directed at anyone who dares to suggest alternatives to his/her fancasting choices.

  75. Luana
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 4:19 am | Permalink

    Giddy:
    I don’t see why anybody should be made to feel bad about the actors they enjoy watching who they think will be best for a particular role.

    Then maybe you should stop doing that to people, hmm?

  76. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 4:19 am | Permalink

    Luana,

    Luana,

    You jump to conclusions which is why you get offended. When I was talking about the make up department I was talking about styling his hair, beard etc. You assumed I was talking about putting him in black face which is why you were offended. In the books the character has a widows peak. That is a look that the make up dept may give the actor. That is the kind of thing I was talking about. If you get a tan for a certain look in a role it isn’t a big deal. Actors do it all the time. Purefoy as I already stated already does look Mediterranean. He could easily pass for Greek. The fact that you choose to
    Jump to conclusions about me, somebody you don’t know, is your problem. I have nothing to feel bad about. I know how I treat people and I know that there are people I like and dislike I’m the world regardless of race. Like I said before, I am not gonna play your games.

  77. Luana
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 5:02 am | Permalink

    Giddy,

    “It’s not my problem, it’s the offended person’s problem for getting offended, yada yada…”

    Fine. Moving on…

  78. Giddy
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 5:32 am | Permalink

    Luana,

    What you don’t seem to understand is that you are the one who is offensive with your accusations and race baiting. Please do move on. Music to my ears.

  79. Drfunk
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    We’re not talking just about Oberyn but an entire race of people who inhabit Dorne.To me part of the appeal of Dorne is that it is distinctly different from the rest of Westeros.They are descended from a completely seperate race, the Roynish. What the hell is the purpose of Martin creatng different races of people if they all look the same?The producers have shown that they do like to portray the races in the show as GRRM described them. The Targaryens still have their silvery/platinum hair.Xaro Xhoan Daxos was changed, but they made sure to let it be known that the show’s version of him was a Summer Islander.In the casting call for Daario they specifically stated that they were looking for non-caucasion actors. The world that GRRM created is diverse. Casting a guy who looks like he should be from the North as a Dornishman simply does not demonstrate that.

    Again I disagree here. We’re talking about a specific Martell casting and not the entire Dornish people.

    The Rhoynar were a slender people with smooth olive skin, black hair and dark eyes. Their impact on the Dornish gene pool is strongest along the coast, and grows faint farther inland. Dornishmen with more Andal and First Men blood are larger and fairer than those with more Rhoynish.

    According to King Daeron I’s observations during his wars in Dorne, there are three group of Dornishmen:

    Salty Dornishmen live along the coasts, mainly along the Broken Arm region, where the Red Mountains stretch out into the Sea of Dorne. These Dornishmen are lithe and dark, with smooth olive skin and long black hair. They are fishermen and sailors, hard men who sail the ships of the Dornish fleet.
    Sandy Dornishmen live in the deserts and the long river valleys, faces burned brown by the hot Dornish sun, they are even darker than the salty Dornishmen.
    Stony Dornishmen live in the passes and heights of the Red Mountains. They have the most Andal and First Men blood and mostly resemble the other people of the Seven Kingdoms in look, customs and traditions. They are brown-haired or blond with faces that freckled or burned in the sun.

    Just because a bunch of dornish people look more Rhoynish than the Andals does not make them all “ethnic” looking. So since we established that the Stony Dornishmen look like the rest of Westeros with a tan let’s go back to the Viper.

    The source states that the martells are more Rhoynish. Would it be so inconceivable to change the two Martell brothers into Stony Dornishmen? Seriously, is that like not even thinkable in light of all the other freaking things that was changed in the series? The Sand Snakes on the other hand are quite broad and unique in their appearances due to the Viper choosing such diverse partners. That’s where you could go more exotic for “specific” Sand Snakes to represent a full spectrum.

    They could make Sunspear into NY city with every racial demo represented to give that new look. It doesn’t mean the two Martell brothers MUST be made into Salty/Sandy dornishmen. Not sure why people keep ignoring the 3rd demographic of Dorne. There are people that still look like the Andals. So instead of raging about how Dorne will look all white, let’s remember there are plenty of other Dornish who will be featured in the show when it zooms in on Sunspear. Nice mix of all 3 types would be ideal.

    So now that we established why the Martells doesn’t need to be non Stony, let’s go over your final point. No one said we need to cast someone from the North as a dornishmen. We’re talking about changing the Martells into more Andalish and less Rhoynish while keeping the rest of the Dorne cast mixed to represent the 3 types. For the record, a stony dornishman does not look like someone from the north. They look more south american with a nice tan than say a Norwegian.

    All of this is to say that virtually any racial demo could be applied to the Martells (besides orientals sigh), and still be believable (especially with a nice touch of make up). Now whether Purefoy is the best candidate is certainly open to debate. It’s clear I’m a big fan of his work but it doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of other great actors who could conceivably nail the role even better. So would love to see some casting discussion based on merit rather than nominating/dismissing an actor based on their skin color.

    Lastly, I apologize if some people were offended by some of my comments. This is still a growing community, everyone has different values and opinions which I respect. Sometimes though I feel like some don’t give a logical explanation to back their argument. Chris Rock explained this phenomenon:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f_oxZqD6wQ

    Anyways, all in good fun cheers :)

  80. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Drfunk,

    Yes, but the quote in your post said what I have been saying all along. The Martells are the royal family of Dorne and they have strong Roynish blood. I’m not the type to nitpick about characters not looking how I imagined(Asha/Yara), but to me the Martells and most of the Dornish need to be in stark contrast to the rest of Westeros. This is just one man’s opinion. If the produers and Nina decide to go another route then so be it.

  81. Udi
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    TheRealMountain,

    Hmm… what do you gain from writing a remark like that, aimed at hurting someone’s feelings?
    Besides, are you THE Mountain? I actually enjoy reading “A woman is…”, it just makes me smile. I hope for you Mr. H’ghar doesn’t find out who you are (oh, sorry, I need to get a grip on reality, silly me).

  82. Two Feathers
    Posted July 21, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    TheRealMountain:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Enough with the whole “A woman is…” schtick.Get a grip on reality

    Do you feel like a big man now ?

  83. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 22, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Personally I don’t care who the plays the Viper, I just care that he’s fucking awesome. That’s my criteria.

    Also anyone of these actors would be nice: Naveen Andrews, James Purefoy, Antonio Banderas (come on he would be awesome!), Alexander Siddig, Oded Fehr or Joaquim de Almeida. .

    I think Almeida would be fantastic. He would probably be even better as Prince Doran.

  84. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted July 22, 2012 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    you know I think all the “older” people on the show just dont get all the credit they deserve.

  85. Emma Katana
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    I was named after Emma Peel!!

  86. fuelpagan
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I agree. The Dornish need a distinctive look. Otherwise the racism against the Dornish just wouldn’t make sense. I think Purefoy would make a great Jon Connington. I would be surprised if we even see the Red Viper this season.

  87. MVDLannister
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Now that’s an excellent choice! That pic of Oded Fehr is perfect!!!!

  88. laurat
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    I pictured Naveen Andrews in my head. I’m betting they do go more Middle Eastern looking, to add diversity and to set Dorne apart from the rest of Westeros which I don’t mind at all. Also, for what it’s worth…I don’t think it is racially insensitive to suggest using makeup to enhance or change an actors looks. If they like an actor but want to make him look more “ethnic” how is that any different than changing Emelia Clark or Lena Heady’s hair color…skin, hair, eyes are things that can be changed. It bugs me to no end when describing a person by their skin color is labeled racist. Come on people, if I’m the only white person in a room full of black people is it racist to identify me as the white woman?enough with the ridiculous over the top political correctness. It is not racist to call me a white woman, with brown eyes and brown hair. Sheesh.


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