Quick Hits: Filming Season Three
By Ours is the Fury on in Filming, Production.
  • Gary Lightbody, lead singer of the band Snow Patrol, filmed a small cameo today for Game of Thrones, according to the band’s Facebook page and shared a photo of him in costume. Lightbody, a Belfast resident and fan of the show, posted about his part, “So I did my scene this morning for Game Of Thrones. I looked like this. Can’t say much just it’s no pivotal role. Fun!”
  • Several photos of the Quoile set in Northern Ireland popped up yesterday, provided by Wyvernwood. The riverside dock appears to be part of Riverrun, the seat of House Tully, based on the trout sigil on the pilings of the jetty.
  • An article in a Croatian publication has caused a bit of a stir, revealing that the government has not yet paid the incentive to HBO that is required to film there as planned for season 3. It seems the lack of payment was due to an oversight, the funds not set aside as planned. If the funds aren’t provided, HBO may pull out of filming there. Representatives of the Croatian government have indicated they very much want Game of Thrones to continue filming in the country. Hopefully the situation will be resolved quickly. UPDATE: Looks like a deal has been worked out to solve the financial incentive issue, and the filming in Croatia will go ahead for season 3 as planned.

Ours is the Fury: I think the issue with the funds in Croatia will be taken care of. Dubrovnik was such a huge part of season 2, it would be a shame to lose its beauty in season 3.


275 Comments

  1. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Yes! So awesome to see pics from the new season! And firsties too! Happy Monday fellow fans! A woman bets Gary L. plays the minstrel in Bwb that finds Arya on the road. Any other ideas?

    Oh, a woman also hopes Croatia gets that straightened out so we see the same beautiful KL next season!

  2. Michel
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    I think Gary did a BwB member, but non-canon..without any line

  3. SillyMammo
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    GoT is sort of like the NFL. There really is only 1-2 months of downtime before things start ramping up again. So happy to start getting more news about filming of the upcoming season. I needs my GoT fix!

  4. spannycat
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Game of Thrones is awesome!!!!!

  5. Tenesmus
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’Sevenstreams?

  6. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    Oops! A woman couldn’t do the spoiler tags on first comment on ipad..hope WiC fixes before anybody gets too spoiled!

  7. Hexonx
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Tenesmus,

    That would be my guess.

  8. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Surely Gary will be playing a Bard ?

  9. The Rabbit
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Happy to announce that Croatian lil problem is solved.
    It was in today s papers.
    It seems the gouvernement found the money :D

    (no comment on the issue, btw, do not want to be banned from here :D)

  10. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    Oops!A woman couldn’t do the spoiler tags on first comment on ipad..hope WiC fixes before anybody gets too spoiled!

    Wow! That was quick! A woman thanks you!

  11. darquemode
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Fun to have a celeb walk on like that. Thankfully they will not make a big deal of like some shows when celebs appear!

    Certainly could be a BwB member, but if so I would think an unnamed member in the background and not someone like Tom. Although Tom is an interesting idea with the music connection…

    Unrelated note….
    How old is Gerold Dayne supposed to be?

  12. Michel
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Would a guy that will play Tom O’ Seventreams only appears in one episode ?? If he appears, it would make sense that he would be in all scenes of the BwB, not only one scene (i don’t think one day of filming it’s sufficient to film all of the BwB scenes)

  13. darquemode
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    That was my thinking too. *nods*

  14. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Is there an online version of the papers that I could see? I couldn’t find any updated info in the Croatian sites that I checked earlier, but my google-mojo is weak in other languages.

  15. Hear Me Roar
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Great! nice nice. Finally.

  16. Lord Yellow Snow
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    He looks alot like an Iron Island Man, NO?

  17. Hexonx
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    True, maybe they won’t specifically name him or they will cut his story way down but he may be one of the BwB that come across Arya:

    Arya and Hot Pie are picking vegetables out of a garden when they hear singing. Arya has Hot Pie go wake up Gendry and hide the horses while she hides in a nearby tree. One of the horses whinnies, and the singer hears them. He discusses with two others shooting arrows over the wall, and Arya comes out and gives herself up. Gendry and Hot Pie reveal themselves soon after. The singer introduces himself as Tom of Sevenstreams and his companions as Lemoncloak and Anguy.

  18. The Rabbit
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Found it!

    http://www.vecernji.hr/kultura/serija-igra-prijestolja-film-diana-nastavljaju-se-snimati-hrvatskoj-clanak-433766

    The title: The filming of TV show Game of Thrones continue in Croatia

    The sources: Croatian ministry of Culture and Croatian audio-visual center.

  19. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Awesome, thanks! I’ve updated the post with it. :)

  20. WompWomp
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Uhhh… that link led to a page absolutely COVERED in typos.

    Haha, I kid. Great news!

  21. dizzy_34
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait to see Riverrun.

  22. Andrew
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I’ve done that once or twice, haha. I usually just add the tag code manually now.

    This is pretty cool news though, can’t wait to see all the Tully stuff! I’m about halfway through Storm of Swords right now for the seventh time, so that’s not helping my excitement much :P

  23. Mormegil
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    GRRM has apparently confirmed he won’t be writing the Season 3 ep featuring the RW.

    I think it was fairly clear this was the case but now we have the confirmation.

    So if “Autumn Storms” is the episode prior to the RW as seems likely given the title the RW will be Ep8.

  24. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    Makes sense seeing as it was so hard for him to write it the first time that he left it until the end of the novel. Dont think he wants to go through that again. As heartless as the man can appear sometimes, he still feels for some characters.

  25. serum
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    then I think we can assume that the purple wedding will be the season finale!

  26. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    Interesting to note that in the article you posted when asked about aSoIaF having a happy ending George only refers to the title of the seventh book “A Dream of Spring”. I’m still thinking the series does not have a happy ending and the dream part is just that, an illusion. White Walkers rule the Seven Kingdoms. George might just be twisted enough to do that.

  27. Lana
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    Please don’t say that episode 8 of season 3 will be the last time we see Richard Madden in the role of Rob Stark – he is my favourite (Richard, I mean). That is devastating news.

  28. darquemode
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Imagine the uproar if thw Others rule Westeros at the end of Dream of Spring! XD
    Yikes!

    Unexpected comeback from Els eh? Wow.

  29. Henry
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    I got all giddy when I saw the trout decorations! RIVERUN!!! BLACKFISH!!!!

    serum:
    Mormegil,

    then I think we can assume that the purple wedding will be the season finale!

    Why do you say that? I’ve never really been on board with having that in season 3.

  30. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    “George was also asked if he was going to write any episodes for S3 of the show and he said he’s going to write one, but that D&D wouldn’t let him write the one about the RW because they wanted it for themselves, that they’d be killed before parting with this episode. It’s a shame, in my view, because episode 9 S2 was the best in the second season, according to most viewers, and it was the one written by George himself.” From that link.

    So, D&D will handle it. Huh, okay.

  31. The mighty hodor
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    I hope the singer from snow patrol doesn’t become the new ros! (for the record I like ros!)

  32. The Rabbit
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    serum,

    Well, I do not think so. I guessPurple wedding would be in S4.

    Arguments: Oberyn Martell is coming to KL prior to PW – and have to meet Tyrion before he is captured.
    And I doubt any of the Martells would be cast before s4.

    More importnat thing is the PW is big event on its own and need pretty much screen time. I guess that s3 would end with lots of action on The Wall and across the see.
    There are also Arya and The Hound. Not much place for the PW, IMO.

    But, of course I could be wrong..

  33. Hexonx
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: “George was also asked if he was going to write any episodes for S3 of the show and he said he’s going to write one, but that D&D wouldn’t let him write the one about the RW because they wanted it for themselves, that they’d be killed before parting with this episode. It’s a shame, in my view, because episode 9 S2 was the best in the second season, according to most viewers, and it was the one written by George himself.” From that link.

    So, D&D will handle it. Huh, okay.

    D&D probably already had a good idea how they were going to handle it when they signed on. I wonder if GRRM was joking around there or if he really wanted to write it.

  34. Hexonx
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Mormegil,

    Interesting to note that in the article you posted when asked about aSoIaF having a happy ending George only refers to the title of the seventh book “A Dream of Spring”. I’m still thinking the series does not have a happy ending and the dream part is just that, an illusion. White Walkers rule the Seven Kingdoms. George might just be twisted enough to do that.

    I thought he has said before that the ending will be bittersweet.

  35. darquemode
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Henry,

    I agree.
    Why split ASoS into two seasons if they put 80% of the book into Season 3? I think Tyrion’s wedding is 100% in Season 3, the Red Wedding is maybe 85% likely, but the Purple wedding is unlikely to me. Personally I like the idea of the RW being in the beginning of Season 4 with Season 3 ending just before the RW… maybe after Tyrion’s wedding. Although I think that is unlikely to happen….

  36. Oi!
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Well, take away the CGI and action sequences and Blackwater (writing wise) is nothing special the same as Pointy end episode that GRRM also wrote.

    Baleor is a far strongly written episode in my opinion that BW.

  37. Hexonx
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror: Hexonx

    If he said that I missed it.

    Well, that’s third hand. I’ve read where other people have said that he said that but I haven’t heard him say that myself (not that I follow him him religiously or anything). It would make sense though.

  38. serum
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    I like your line of thinking and regardless what season all these amazing events occur in I’m just happy we get to see them on screen!

  39. The Rabbit
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Someone please remind me – when exactly in the timeline Sansa & Tyrion wedding is?

    And what s with those Kettleblacks? Somehow we all forgot them.

  40. OhDanyBoy
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    Sansa and Tyrion: Chapter 29
    The RW: Chapter 52
    Joff + Marg: Chapter 61

    Book has 82 chapters.

  41. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Hexonx,

    Well the story is already rather bittter. Suppose if it does end bitter sweet we should be grateful for the sweet bit.

  42. sjwenings
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil: So if “Autumn Storms” is the episode prior to

    Why do you think the title makes it likely to be the ep prior to RW? I’m not saying I disagree, I’m just wondering.

  43. The Rabbit
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    OhDanyBoy,

    Thanks :)
    So, Sansa/Tyrion is way before all other events. I wonder if/how they would handle it in the show.

  44. Adrian
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    It’s really genuinely shocking how Jaqen’s method of talking can seem so cool and badass when he does it yet be absolutely, mind numbingly contrived and irritating when someone else does.

  45. No one
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Well, I think that the season 3 finale will feature The RW and the final cliffhanger will be Catelyn coming back, or something like that. They wouldn’t put the RW before the season finale, it’s just too shocking to be in the middle of the season, in my opinion…

  46. Mormegil
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings: Why do you think the title makes it likely to be the ep prior to RW? I’m not saying I disagree, I’m just wondering.

    The journey to The Twins by Robb and co takes weeks and it’s stated that it rains pretty much every day and they get delayed due to flooding. Sounds like Autumn storms to me.

  47. sjwenings
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    Right. Thanks.

  48. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s all but confirmed that the R.W. will take place in episode 8 of this coming season. The title of episode 7, as has already been mentioned, being the first clue. We also know that David & Dan are directing an episode this year, and it’s safe to assume that the R.W. will take place in that episode based on comments they’ve made in the past regarding their hope that the series would last long enough to make it to this event. We also know the director for the last two episodes of this season, and it isn’t D&D. I can also see them not wanting episode 9 to be looked at as the episode where the major events always happen, and the R.W. is in no way, shape, or form a satisfying ending to the season (despite how shocking it is). Dollars to donuts the event will happen in episode 8, which will be the episode our show-runners direct. Episode title? “Bread & Salt” sounds good to me.

  49. sjwenings
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    Seems convincing, yes. If true, I think this timing of this event is optimal.

    You should arguably spoilertag some of that, though.

  50. Mormegil
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings,

    There’s also other events from around the same time that take place in a Storm and could fit into the episode.

    Balons death and Jons escape from the Wildlings at Queenscrown.

  51. wyvernwood
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    Just a comment on the line: “The riverside dock appears to be standing in for the lands of Riverrun, the seat of House Tully. Several trout, the family’s sigil, have been added to the pilings on the jetty.”

    The whole jetty is actually a set construct – none of the construction in the pics is original, all has been built as part of the set.

    If it is for Hoster’s funeral boat – I guess the funeral pyre of a boat will be CGI’d as I doubt very much whether they would allow it in a protected nature reserve.

  52. WompWomp
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit,

    They’ll definitely nerf it, like most Sansa scenes. There are some things only books can get away with, like minors staring down purple-headed monsters.

    Jeez, Pastor_of_Muppets. Slap some tags on that post. I know they can act up, but I’d rather delete a comment than leave all that hanging out in the open.

    I really hope D&D pull off the RW with a flourish, because there will be no end to the fan backlash if they don’t. Anything short of universal acclaim is sounding like a shitstorm. I’m not entirely sure why, but they don’t court nearly as much good will among fans as GRRM does when it comes to the show. They will not be able to live it down in the eyes of that particular slice of the fandom. Ever.

  53. Watson
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    The showrunners have never said that ASOS is going to split into two full seasons. All they’ve said is that season 3 will not cover all of ASOS. They have also stated that henceforth they will not be going on book per season. It seems very logical, given what we now know, that the purple wedding will be the finale of season 3.

  54. wyvernwood
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    Gah, sorry the spoiler tags didn’t come out when I tried editing my post.

    Could the board’s fairies do their thing on my post above ?

    Thanks

  55. WompWomp
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    wyvernwood,

    Yeah, they’ve been finicky today… I’ve had to tag my posts paragraph by paragraph at times.

  56. Mormegil
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    Watson: The showrunners have never said that ASOS is going to split into two full seasons. All they’ve said is that season 3 will not cover all of ASOS.

    Ok, not technically a showrunner but GRRM has used the words “Roughly half” when talking about how much of aSoS is in Season 3.

    We know the RW is in which already takes us over the halfway mark (say 60/40% of the book to Season 3/season 4) but if they go as far as the Purple Wedding then we’re probably looking at 70%/30% which really can’t be described as “roughly half”.

    Yes there are compelling reasons for having the PW in Season 3 (a boost for the audience after the RW, Mels vision of Three Dead Kings all happening in one season) but there are also arguments for putting it off till Season 4 (Tyrion does not spend most of Season 4 in a jail cell, they don’t need to cast the Red Viper till Season 4).

  57. Watson
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    GRRM is almost certainly less neurotic when it comes to page counting than we are. And just because one storyline makes it to later chapters doesn’t mean they all do.

  58. SerCountryFriedSteak
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    I’ve written about this too many times to mention, but the Purple Wedding has to happen in Season 3.

    In the Mad Men/GoT/Breaking Bad TV series mold, a TV season has to have an arc: a beginning, middle and end.

    Too many characters in GoT spend the entire book preparing for the Purple Wedding. If you remove that event, then you’d have to a season where Joffrey, Cersei, Margery, Queen of Thorns, etc. spend their time preparing for an event that doesn’t appear in that season.

    Sansa’s main storyline will be with Dontos (or if they cut him, Littlefinger) planning an escape from King’s Landing. If the PW doesn’t happen, then her storyline will also be spent preparing for an event that doesn’t appear in the season.

    That would be terrible.

    As for the complaint that in Season 4, Tyrion would spend the whole thing in prison. I don’t think it holds water. Again, think of Tyrion’s Season 4 storyline: Beginning: Trapped in Prison. Middle: Trial/Combat Ending: Escape. AKA – that’s the perfect arc for a TV season. Especially a short 10-episode season.

    As for the argument that it’s 80% of the 3rd book in the 3rd season, I’d say GOOD. The show was terrible in Season 2 episode 8 because it was STALLING stories like Dany’s trip to the House of the Undying… saving it for Episode 10.

    Also, while the PW happens so late in the book, many of the Jon/Dany storylines can happen slower…. to balance out.

    One last point: One reason that readers find the transition from A Storm of Swords to A Feast for Crows difficult/terrible is that Feast has SO MANY new characters and storylines (the Martells in Dorne & the Greyjoy drama at Pyke) that it’s too much. There is NO WAY that the TV show would/should throw that many new stories (and lets not forget Quentyn’s trip to Merreen) at the TV audience in Season 5. They’ll have to move some of these intros up into Season 4 aka that season won’t only be the second half of ASOS.

  59. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Yes, I’m hoping they move some of the Martell and Greyjoy chapters to S4 for a smoother introduction. We can become more gradually attached, instead of having a load of new characters at once which was a bit disorienting in AFFC.
    I do think it’s better to have the Purple Wedding be the S3 season finale. Red Wedding will be ep 9, I’m guessing, since they’ve had the season’s major event be in episode 9 both seasons. (Ned at Baelor and Battle of Blackwater) It’s a perfect place to end the season- Tyrion’s arrest, Sansa’s escape, and the power of the Tyrells really becoming apparent.
    I don’t think we’ll see anything past Purple Wedding because they haven’t cast Oberyn Martell and it doesn’t seem like they are going to, this season. He wasn’t on any cast listing and they haven’t mentioned him anywhere.

  60. sjwenings
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    SerCountryFriedSteak,

    I approve of this post.

  61. K26dp
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    IMO the main storylines for S3 would be:

    1. Battle at the Fist of the First Men, and the flight of the Nights Watch, including Samwell slaying the white walker, and the murder of the Old Bear.
    2. Davos’s rescue, plan to murder Melisandre, imprisonment, and promotion back to Stannis’s Hand.
    3. Sansa and her interactions with Ser Dontos and Olanna Tyrell.
    4. Sansa and Tyrion’s wedding and non-bedding.
    5. Daenerys meets Arstan Whitebeard, leaves Qarth, desides to go to Astapor at Jorah’s suggestion, takes control of the Unsullied with FIRE AND BLOOD. Outwits the Yunkai, takes Daario into her service.
    6. Jon’s storyline with the wildlings up to his escape with Summer’s help at Queenscrown.
    7. Arya and the Brotherhood, her kidnapping by Sandor Clegane.
    8. Some new storyline involving Selyse, Shireen, Stannis, and Melisandre.
    9. The breaking of Theon and the death of Balon Greyjoy.
    10. Bran meeting the Reeds, deciding to go Beyond the Wall, up to the point of Queenscrown where he first wargs into Hodor.
    11. Jaime and Brienne fight, then get taken by the Bloody Mummers, Jaime is maimed, they encounter Roose Bolton.
    12. Robb executed Rickard Karstark, joins up with the Tully’s, trusts Roose Bolton too much, tries to win back the Freys, gets killed.

    Seems like plenty to cover, and this was all roughly the first half of the book.

  62. Biscotti
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    I think RW will be in 8 and PW will be in 10, because the viewers will be clamouring for some kind of positive after the hell that is the RW. What are they going to do, give us Dany screaming fire and blood again? I suppose they could have her unsullied, but then what is she going to do before then? And I don’t think that will make up for the RW because her stuff is so unrelated, and will far from comfort the Madden crowd of fangirls!! What are people’s thoughts on where her arc will go this season?

    The other reason I think that PW might be in this season is that Ramsay is in 6 episodes from what we have heard, so they are definitely rounding him out and building him up as the next “big bad” after Joffrey. Would be a shame to see Jack go though!!

  63. axia777
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil:
    GRRM has apparently confirmed he won’t be writing the Season 3 ep featuring the RW.

    I think it was fairly clear this was the case butnow we have the confirmation.

    Soif “Autumn Storms” is the episode prior to the RW as seems likely given the title the RW will be Ep8.

    Good, he should be writing and making progress on book 6. That is what I want GRRm to be working on. He needs to leave the show alone and get o his book full steam.

    I also second the idea that Gary Lightbody is going to be Tom O’Sevenstreams. It makes perfect sense. If this is not true then they missed a great opportunity to make the show more awesome, because Snow Patrol kicks ass. Lightbody is a real deal musician and if he can act too then this is going to be awesome.

  64. sjwenings
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    axia777: Good, he should be writing and making progress on book 6. That is what I want GRRm to be working on. He needs to leave the show alone and get o his book full steam.

    I don’t know which one of us is missing something, but in case it’s you – George IS indeed writing an episode this season too, as well as he did the two previous seasons – it just won’t be the RW one.

  65. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Adrian:
    It’s really genuinely shocking how Jaqen’s method of talking can seem so cool and badass when he does it yet be absolutely, mind numbingly contrived and irritating when someone else does.

    A woman will make sure to tell Jaqen that you think his manner of speaking is cool only when HE speaks. He will certainly be impressed by your good taste. Of course other Lorathis will no doubt be crushed that YOU are irritated by our speaking style unless it is MR. H’ghar. Boo effin hoo! A woman will continue to speak in her customary manner keeping in mind the free speech that is guaranteed in the US of A.

  66. axia777
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings: I don’t know which one of us is missing something, but in case it’s you – George IS indeed writing an episode this season too, as well as he did the two previous seasons – it just won’t be the RW one.

    Oh, well that is too bad. Because I want him writing the next book 100%. I could care less about his involvement on the TV show other than to say that it is cool. That being said D&D can handle it all on their own from here on out. George needs to get his ass on that book.

  67. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    SerCountryFriedSteak, I used to share your view. But there’s one possibility that you’re neglecting — that the King’s Landing material in S3 will feature a mostly invented story with its own beginning, middle and end. I now think this is the direction they’re going. The Tyrion/Sansa marriage as one major plotline, and then some new invented intrigue to keep busy Tywin, Cersei, Joff, Marg, Olenna, Varys, Littlefinger, and Ros (her role apparently set up in the S2 finale). Because they cast such a big name for Olenna they’re probably going to have to invent an Olenna/Cersei scene, 1-2 Olenna/Tywin scenes, Olenna/Tyrion, Olenna/LF, probably Olenna/Varys too..

  68. spannycat
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Adrian:
    It’s really genuinely shocking how Jaqen’s method of talking can seem so cool and badass when he does it yet be absolutely, mind numbingly contrived and irritating when someone else does.

    A woman will make sure to tell Jaqen that you think his manner of speaking is cool only when HE speaks. He will certainly be impressed by your good taste. Of course other Lorathis will no doubt be crushed that YOU are irritated by our speaking style unless it is MR. H’ghar. Boo effin hoo! A woman will continue to speak in her customary manner keeping in mind the free speech that is guaranteed in the US of A.

    I think it´s nice to have a theme, and hey I´m going to remember her name, and I barely glanced at your name once, Andrew or whatever

  69. Patchy Face
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    Mormegil,

    Do we know that will be in S3? Has that been verified…just wondering if they could move out to S4?

  70. sjwenings
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    axia777: Oh, well that is too bad. Because I want him writing the next book 100%. I could care less about his involvement on the TV show other than to say that it is cool. That being said D&D can handle it all on their own from here on out. George needs to get his ass on that book.

    Him writing just one ep of GoT hardly makes a difference. Problem is him writing Wild cards, The world of Ice fire, Dunk and egg, Dangerous women, Old mars, Old venus, Rogues and so forth, and going to all these conventions and seminars and what have you. Right now he’s on vacation. Edit: He actually just got back – and left again for some interview-thingys.

  71. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings: Him writing just one ep of GoT hardly makes a difference. Problem is him writing Wild cards, The world of Ice fire, Dunk and egg, Dangerous women, Old mars, Old venus, Rogues and so forth, and going to all these conventions and seminars and what have you. Right now he’s on vacation. Edit: He actually just got back – and left again for some interview-thingys.

    To a man’s point, GRRM has said recently that he has learned how to say “no” to new projects. A woman is not holding her breath.

  72. darquemode
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Considering they still have to add in some of Bran’s arc and some of the Riverlands side of the story from ACoK into Season 3, I think there is a lot of material to cover before the Purple Wedding. More than one season’s worth honestly. Plus we will get more created Robb and Talisa scenes that take time. I also expect more created Wildling scenes since Orell is sure to have a larger role.

    Although unlikely I can picture RW in Season 4 easily. They can end the season with Jon’s escape, BwB vs Bloody Mummers (or just Hound vs Lightning Lord),and the Yunkai yelling “Mother” at Dany and have a very moving finale.

  73. feyrband
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    axia777: Oh, well that is too bad.Because I want him writing the next book 100%.I could care less about his involvement on the TV show other than to say that it is cool.That being said D&D can handle it all on their own from here on out.George needs to get his ass on that book.

    I think Neil Gaiman said it best: “George R. R. Martin is not your bitch.

  74. KG
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    feyrband,

    Don’t be a suckup.

    So long as he makes his very nice living off what we pay for his books, he’s our bitch.

  75. tysnow
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    K26dp,

    Do enjoy giving away all the major plot points (bluntly to I might add) for SoS, I wonder if you are a spy for the Others, divulging all those plot lines.
    One disagreement is Yunkai, I believe Dany’s arc will end with Astapor Massacre (Just too awesome of a scene not to be a finale) while the former is anti-climatic.
    My belief is the PW will be episode 8 or 9 of the fourth season. D&D have said they are not following the books exactly concerning seasonal time frames. Remember the first 1/4 of FfC took place chronologically with the end of Storm as well as parts of Dances. Therefore I theorize that perhaps Tywin will make it into the first few episodes of five (the more I see of Charles the happier I am).

  76. tysnow
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Since they will be filming Riverun scenes soon, I wonder if any Northern Irelanders on this site can questimate what castle might stand in for the seat of Tully power, perhaps there is a rumor out there of a castle that has not be used prior to this upcoming season.

  77. Ser Lemon cakes
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if with Diana Rigg’s casting they will beef up her storyline by having her take something of the Dontos role-leading Sansa to Littlefinger for her ‘escape’. Regardless I hope we will get plenty of Lady O plotting dialogue!

    For anyone who gets a chance to see the recent four part BBC adaptations of the Henridad plays do, they are filled with GOT actors past and to come, Iain Glenn, Harry Lloyd, Lucien Masmalti, Anton Lesser etc…

  78. stroll
    Posted July 23, 2012 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    I think D&D can do a fine job provided they don’t decide to deviate. Baelor is proof of that.

    I also agree with SerCountryFriedSteak that the PW should be at the end of season 3. Not just for arc-related reasons, but to provide some post-RW solace for the show-only viewers. Us readers only had to read a few more chapters to see Joffrey die humiliatingly, watchers would have to wait a year. That’s if they stick around.

  79. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    feyrband: I think Neil Gaiman said it best: “George R. R. Martin is not your bitch.

    I could care less what words come of that sellout’s mouth Gaiman . Like KG said it as long as he’s on our payroll, he owes us a bit respect especially after the failure that was ADWD now i’m considering whether i want to continue the series or just drop it out unlike before when i buyed the books without hesitation.

  80. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    tysnow:
    K26dp,

    Do enjoy giving away all the major plot points (bluntly to I might add) for SoS, I wonder if you are a spy for the Others, divulging all those plot lines.
    One disagreement is Yunkai, I believe Dany’s arc will end with Astapor Massacre (Just too awesome of a scene not to be a finale) while the former is anti-climatic.
    My belief is the PW will be episode 8 or 9 of the fourth season. D&D have said they are not following the books exactly concerning seasonal time frames. Remember the first 1/4 of FfC took place chronologically with the end of Storm as well as parts of Dances. Therefore I theorize that perhaps Tywin will make it into the first few episodes of five (the more I see of Charles the happier I am).

    Well in your opinion that might be the ideal finale but the thing is that for many others, including me Dany’s storyline after AGOT is complete and utter garbage so no that would not be the ideal finale for me thanks !

  81. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    epic the wonderful,

    The prodigal son returns.

    Watch any more of The Wire?

  82. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 1:04 am | Permalink

    Re: this ‘GRRM is our bitch’ attitude:

    No human being is anyone’s bitch. What a disgusting thought. To paraphrase Samwell Tarly: he’s a person not a goat!

  83. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    epic the wonderful,

    Well in the remaining time you have, it was fun. Have a good life.

  84. Turn cloak
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 1:17 am | Permalink

    Excellent season breakdown . I also expect Arya and Sandor to meet Gregor’s men in episode 10 and Arya having her famous “is there hold in the village scene”. This time killing Polliver instead of the Tickler.
    K26dp,

  85. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:03 am | Permalink

    The reason I don’t see the PW happening in season 3 is because they haven’t cast The Red Viper. He needs to be introduced to the audience before the PW, IMO. Of course, you could have said the same thing about the Riverrun characters,Ramsey, and Jojen & Meera. Isuppose it is possible to have him arrive at court after Tyrion has been arrested. I’d just miss their scenes together when Oberyn arrives in KL.

  86. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:13 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    “George was also asked if he was going to write any episodes for S3 of the show and he said he’s going to write one, but that D&D wouldn’t let him write the one about the RW because they wanted it for themselves, that they’d be killed before parting with this episode. It’s a shame, in my view, because episode 9 S2 was the best in the second season, according to most viewers, and it was the one written by George himself.” From that link.

    So, D&D will handle it. Huh, okay.

    Oh. RIP Catelyn’s characterization & prominence.

    …or not. Prove me wrong, D&D.

  87. MoonCoffee
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    Mormegil: The journey to The Twins by Robb and co takes weeks and it’s stated that it rains pretty much every day and they get delayed due to flooding.Sounds like Autumn storms to me.

    Actually there are more than one occasions in ASoS that make a reference to storms in autumn. Robb executing Karstark in Riverrun is one, the other is an Arya chapter. It also rains a lot when Jaime & Brienne is traveling (they’re still in the same region after all).

  88. Rimshot
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:21 am | Permalink

    Carrickfergus Castle would have made a cracking set but I suspect it’s too ‘touristy’. It’s in the middle of Carrick and has swarms of tourists all the time. Although the ramparts are all intact and I’m sure a creative director could squeeze out a few interesting shots.

    Interesting to see the ‘them & us’ between Gary Lightbody and the regular extras. If any of us tweeted a photo in costume like he did we would never work on the show again.

  89. Crozyr
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:23 am | Permalink

    I always liked the idea of the autumn storm in ASoS. It felt like everywhere that storm went, shit got real.
    Balon got “blown of” the bridge. Well at least if you believe it.
    The thunderstorm makes Hodor Cry, the wildlings are distracted, Jon can get away.
    During the RW, it is raining like hell and all the riverlands are flooded, influencing Arya and all the other people. Honestly, after Balon and Robb died when the storm was about them, i actually believed that there would be a terrible thunderstorm at Joffreys wedding and he would die during that. Well, he did, just that the storm never reached Kings Landing if I am correct with that. I would have found that very cool though. Kinda like as if Melisandre had summoned that storm.

  90. the goat
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:25 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    That’s what I was thinking, too. Still, they could introduce him in S4 Ep1, have him meet w/Tywin/Cersei/Tyrells to explain his character, then have him visit Tyrion in the dungeon and recreate those earlier convos.

    Claudiu Gherganu: he owes us a bit respect especially after the failure that was ADWD now i’m considering whether i want to continue the series or just drop it out unlike before when i buyed the books without hesitation.

    Fine, gtfo. no1curr

    Joshua Taylor:
    Re: this ‘GRRM is our bitch’ attitude:

    No human being is anyone’s bitch. What a disgusting thought. To paraphrase Samwell Tarly: he’s a person not a goat!

    Hey!! You have impugned my honor, ser, I demand satisfaction!

  91. Kelly
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:27 am | Permalink

    With ref to the Quoile site, I guess the boat had been taken of set and stored away when you were there Wyvernwood. It is kind of small so that is what has me thinking its for Hosters funeral As to what castle they would use, I have no idea! there are so many but I can’t really think of one that isn’t crumbling. There is one at the quoile but again its not in great condition. Have no date yet for when they are shooting but there was no one on set yesterday apart from a few security. It sickening that i’m so close but can’t go and watch!!

  92. Kelly
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:28 am | Permalink

    Can someone explain how I get to see the comments without the spoilers blocked out?

  93. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:30 am | Permalink

    SerCountryFriedSteak,

    In the words of Joffrey, “Your sweet words have moved me.”
    I’m a believer now!
    Im already horribly depressed when a season ends, but to have it end on the most evil note in any of the books (RW) and not have that little monster bite the dust is inhumane!
    Very much hope you are right!

  94. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:33 am | Permalink

    Kelly,

    Just click on the blacked out spot

  95. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    spannycat,

    Agreed
    Her talking like that is the reason I started reading, and became a fan, of her posts.
    Make the Andrew man FLY!

  96. Kelly
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:37 am | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Duh……Im so silly!!! Thank you :^)

  97. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:00 am | Permalink

    Kelly,

    Haha no probs, someone had to point out the obvious to me too.

  98. NaarioDaharis
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    I believe whole-heartedly that the RW will take place at some point during the final three episodes of the season. If it is episode 8, as is popularly thought, I do believe we will see the PW in 9 or 10. Hell, if it is in 9, I still think a PW in 10 is overwhelmingly likely.

    That said, and I haven’t heard much of this suggestion, but I think it at least possible: The RW could be an absolutely thrilling episode 10 season-closer, especially if contrasted in that very same episode with a sufficiently “uplifting” moment(s), such as Jon’s escape or any number of Dany climaxes. I know if I weren’t a book reader that would have me paralyzed in excitement and curiosity for season 4.

    Also – and I don’t know if I have heard this at all – given the timeline and chapter layout, they could conceivably make the PW the season 4 premier, an exciting BANG of a season-opener is a tactic that other shows have employed to the great surprise of their viewers, and with some success.

    Food for thought. I think it possible.

  99. Rygar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    I can’t add spoilers so I will try to be as tactful as possible. I want a serious cliffhanger for S3. I want it to end with the rhymes with Fred Bedding. I want the audience to feel like screaming and ripping there face to shreds as if they just lost everything and now have to wait until season 4 to see what happens next.

  100. Game Of Thongs
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    I’m extremely ignorant, but why does a country have to pay HBO to have them shoot there ?
    If anything, I thought the payment would be made the other way around ?

  101. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Game Of Thongs,

    Because it helps their economy if a big series or movie shoots there or so i heard .

  102. LordStarkington
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/game-of-thrones-pumped-43m-into-northern-irelands-economy-and-more-could-be-on-the-way-16158881.html

    Article on the similar situation in Northern Ireland – they invested 6.5 million pounds, so far estimate they’ve gotten 43 million pounds into their economy

  103. Albert
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    Game Of Thongs: I’m extremely ignorant, but why does a country have to pay HBO to have them shoot there ?If anything, I thought the payment would be made the other way around ?

    Because it’s good PR for the country.
    But I agree that the world sometimes seems upside-down.

    It’s the same way with some airlines (Ryan Air comes to mind).
    Small towns/communities pay them or subsidies their costs so that the airline will traffic their local airfield.
    But now I’m off topic.

  104. Wes
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    I’d like to see season 3 end with the Purple Wedding. Tyrion’s captured. Sansa’s fled. Jaime’s just rescued Brienne. The Watch has just fought off the pre-assault on the Wall from the raiders. Even if they had to bump the RW until season 4 and move the PW up, I think it would be the better choice (they won’t). But they could do the RW in Ep8 and the PW in Ep10. Ending it at the PW gives most of the characters a full arc for the season, and not having to do the conclusion to Storm until the beginning of season 4 means that they don’t have to rush those major events in to episodes 5 and 7 (or what have you) which would just be ridiculous. Then they’d also be able to start in on Feast and Dance in season 4, then finish both of them in season 5 (perhaps with the bang that Martin had to cut). Ending with the PW also provides some satisfaction to the closure of the season. Ending with the RW just seems like it would make many people want to “rage-quit” even more.

  105. Wes
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 10:13 am | Permalink

    Wes,

    ^
    It would also mean that there’d be no season without Theon. They could include some of the flashback material in season three and then the Dance scenes would start appearing in season 4.

  106. fuelpagan
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Game Of Thongs,

    I’m not sure about the rest of the world, but this is a common practice now by corporations in the USA. If you are looking to expand into a new region you put City A against City B and see who has the better deal. It may be tax incentives or free use of a good building or free land. The city that gives up more gets the expansion. Cities do this to boost the economy and create jobs for the area. So even though they may have given up the tax incentives to this corporation, they still get to tax the income of the workers, the sales tax of the employees when they go to lunch. All the little things a working person pays to a city instead of drawing unemployment. So a city helping its citizens find jobs also helps themselves.

    In this case Croatia is paying HBO to film to bring jobs too its citizens, but also banking on the show filming in their city driving up tourism. HBO knows the benefits they bring to filming a big production like Game of Thrones in an area and therefore expect to be paid something for it.

    Personally I find it a gross injustice of the little guys tax dollars paying the big company for a job just so he can be taxed some more. But I can’t deny the logic in why a company would do this, nor why a city would be willing to pay. I guess I’m saying I understand it, but it still bothers me.

  107. sjwenings
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    An interesting idea, but even this is too spoilery IMO.

  108. He Who Slithers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    The PW will never be in S3. Or so was my gut instinct until I started reading y’all’s posts. I thought having the RW as the Ned get’s decap’ed event of S3 would make sense. But, now I am not so sure. I can’t imagine (or, i just should, I hope they won’t) they would alter the order of the RW and the PW–and I fully expect the RW to happen in E8. Which would make the PW an intense season finale, and guarantee people clamoring for S4. Getting both W’s in S3 would be an intense season, and lead to, as others have mentioned, a great arc for Tyrion in S4.

    But, if I may be so bold… if D&D are ever so slightly altering the story from the books could we have the Hound not die… please?

    And a question: any word on who is cast for the Mountain in S3? I felt bad for the actor who played him in S2, as most people were not too happy with him (too skinny, imo), but I would pay cash money to get Conan back. I assume the Mountain will have more screen time in S3…. and it should be played by a mountain, not a skyscraper.

  109. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Haven’t really heard much of Snow Patrol’s stuff. I’ll have to check them out. That’s pretty cool he’s such a big GoT fan.

  110. tdraicer
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    >after the failure that was ADWD

    Speaking as a writer myself, I’d give an arm for such a “failure” both artistically and (of course) in terms of sales. You don’t like something, you don’t like it, but no one here (myself included) is the center of the world that GRRM needs to revolve around.

  111. Watson
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    He Who Slithers,

    The Hound does not die.Reread the quiet isle chapter in AFFC. You will notice a very large horse and a very large gravedigger.

  112. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    He Who Slithers,

    “Most” people were not unhappy. Most people didn’t even notice. It’s only a handful of hardcore fans who care about his recasting. Everyone I know in my real life who watches the show (even those who’ve read the books) had no idea he was replaced until I pointed it out.

  113. He Who Slithers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Watson,

    sprints to the bookshelf….

  114. He Who Slithers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    fair enough, i never read any polling data about this topic. chalk it up to projection…

  115. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    tdraicer,

    I’m totally perplexed by the rancor ADwD has received from the fandom. It was my favorite book next to ASoS. So, I don’t get it.

    I suppose the Meereenese knot frustrated people, but I think it mostly comes down to disappointment with people not seeing what they wanted to see (i.e. Dany not getting any closer to conquering Westeros). People have certain expectations that ADwD didn’t meet.

  116. Sinnerman Soriano
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    http://mediateca.fundacion.telefonica.com/visor.asp?tx-s1-hsejuetro

    Some lengthy Q&A from the fans with Martin (1h30m), his spanish editor and her translator, although 90% of the questions are for Martin. You can follow it in english most of the time, just skip the introduction (english part starts at 13:07).

    Most of the info is old news for us, as most of the questions were pretty standard. In one answer I felt a little bit of resentment towards D&D for wanting to direct too, on top of the all of the other stuff they have to do….although at the end they ask him if he has a lot of arguments with D&D and he says that they have discussions but not arguments, so probably was just me ;)

  117. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    I still think its because of the silly descision to split the two geographically instead of chrnonologically and the amount of time it took for ADWD to come out. It raised peoples expectations way too high and because of the weird split allowed for way too many cliffhangers to go unresolved. IMO it would have been much better if the two were split chronologically.

    He Who Slithers

    Haha upon rereading and discovering what you just discovered I squeeled like a little girl and sprinted to my google browser to find out if I was right.

  118. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    He Who Slithers,

    Where’s the edit button today?

    Forgot to add make no mistake the Hound is very much dead, however Sandor Clegane has been reborn very excited to see how he will feature going forward.

  119. He Who Slithers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,

    i’m with you, fwiw

    I thought Selmy was a fantastic character who was a tad underused (despite the Arstan material), imo, so it was great to read his POVs. And the dragon action was sweeeeet. and so many other things that I thought made aDwD stand out amongst the series (after aSoS).

    although when it comes to the filming of the part of the story with the Brazen Beasts, i think Michele Clapton is going to have her work cut out for her not to make the masks seem… well, silly.

  120. KG
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Don’t be a bitch :)

  121. He Who Slithers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    i can’t believe i forgot about the part of aFfC that Watson (above) was kind enough to point out. i re-read that Brienne chapter and it seems pretty obvious that GRRM, at the very minimum, wants us to believe that SC lives… And from the article about the recent GRRM appearance, the one from Spain, he mentions SC who was one of the few characters mentioned by name.

  122. Sinnerman Soriano
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry I posted the wrong link before, seems theres more than one video. This is the good link

    http://mediateca.fundacion.telefonica.com/visor.asp?e7695-a15851

  123. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    tdraicer:
      
    Quote

    After 6 years of writing that piss poor book i would be ashamed of myself even going in public . And it’s not like i’m the only one who feels that way just look at all the average reviews for ADWD on the net not the ones who kiss Martin’s ass no matter what he does . Oh, and about the sales, well of course the sales grew since the book was anticipated for many years not to mention the popularity that the show brought that year so i wouldn’t really flatter him on that . Now it wouldn’t be that bad if at least AFFC was good but that was crap too .

  124. sjwenings
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Careful about quoting posts with spoilertags, as they disappear by default. You need to retag them.

  125. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    sjwenings:
    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Careful about quoting posts with spoilertags, as they disappear by default. You need to retag them.

    Yeah, i just noticed but i deleted the entire quote rather than retag it .

  126. Sinnerman Soriano
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins: tdraicer, I’m totally perplexed by the rancor ADwD has received from the fandom. It was my favorite book next to ASoS. So, I don’t get it. I suppose the Meereenese knot frustrated people, but I think it mostly comes down to disappointment with people not seeing what they wanted to see (i.e. Dany not getting any closer to conquering Westeros). People have certain expectations that ADwD didn’t meet.

    I don’t think it was that, but well, I can only tell you why I was dissapointed by it. I just didn’t enjoy it as much. I don’t go into books or tv shows expecting to see some specific things happen, just jump into them and expect to be surprised. Is not that not much happens in the book, either, as someone said. I just finished book 2 of the Rain Wild Chronicles by Robin Hobb, and much less happens there, but I really enjoyed reading it.

    I remember that half way through ADWD I was really liking it, ‘casue of a conversation I had with a friend, so probably the last third of the book is what was less enjoyable…maybe because there were too many POV’s and character arcs in that part, maybe because it felt rushed and out of control, as if conveying the troubles Martin had with the infamous Meereenese Knot or maybe becasue, I dunno, is just worts than the rest, I’m no critic, I just can tell you how I felt.

    I am optimistic though, and think that when he starts to regroup and all the story arcs start to converge, the story will get much better. I don’t think it will spiral out of control into shittiness, like others do, and I did enjow ADWD more than AFFC, wich for me was the low point.

  127. Rygar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Thanks if you added the spoilers to my post. I thought I was being vague enough for non book readers. Cheers

    sjwenings:
    Rygar,

    An interesting idea, but even this is too spoilery IMO.

  128. WompWomp
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Varamyr Fourskins,
    although when it comes to the filming of the part of the story with the Brazen Beasts, i think Michele Clapton is going to have her work cut out for her not to make the masks seem… well, silly.

    Her work on the show has been consistently impressive. The only instance of silliness I recall was Call of Duty: Rattleshirt Edition, and that was only because the bone casts he was wearing looked unusually plasticky.

    I’m excited to see how she dresses the Beasts and everyone in general. S2’s revamped wardobe did not disappoint.

    I have to admit, I did miss the Qartheen gown. Qarth was missing so much flavor as is.

  129. WompWomp
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Sinnerman Soriano,

    You might want to revise your language and spring for more descriptive diction rather than such lesser language.

    That said, I see ADWD as a dramatic letdown, though I attribute a lot of that to AFFC’s trendsetting. There are just so many characters I have no interest in, and the ones I do enjoy accomplish so little. I enjoyed the Prologue and Epilogue more than any of the body of the book, which is a shame considering its thickness.

  130. I'm Nobody
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Thoughts on season 4 during Tyrion’s trial. I think D&D are going to play up the expectation of who will fight for Tyrion in the trial by combat. I think we will see both Jaime and Bronn slowly reach for their sword hilts until the red viper accepts the challenge before them.

  131. Rygar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    I will add my two cents to the “wah I love ADWD because GRRM wrote it and Wah I hate ADWD because it did not live up to my expectations” discussion.

    I disliked AFOC at first because I did not realize that Jon, Dany, & Tyrion were not in it and I kept waiting for their chapters. By the time I realized that the POVs were split, I was disappointed and did not allow myself to simply enjoy the new characters. Upon second reading, I let go of that previous expectation and enjoyed it more so. In fact, Victarion is one of my favorite POVs now.

    The same is true about my first reading of ADWD. I have been waiting for almost 8 years to read about Tyrion, Jon, etc and I was again disappointed but this time by the lack of gripping storytelling that I had anticipated. That being said, upon second reading, all excitement aside, I found myself enjoying it more and I have ceased taking my frustrations out on cute innocent puppies as a result.

    Win win.

  132. RabbitStew
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    When did it happen that I can read spoiler tags on my iPhone, this is the most exciting news for me today

  133. Rygar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Word to this. I found that nice surprise earlier.

    RabbitStew:
    When did it happen that I can read spoiler tags on my iPhone, this is the most exciting news for me today

  134. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    He Who Slithers,

    Thats why I’m so excited to see what George is going to do with him. Remember the whole Ser Robert thing aside, as far as Sandor knows, Gregor is dead, and with him the Hound’s entire reason for existence. Hence my statement that the Hound is very much dead, but Sandor is alive.

  135. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    spannycat: I think it´s nice to have a theme, and hey I´m going to remember her name, and I barely glanced at your name once, Andrew or whatever

    Not Andrew, but a woman will not repeat the name of the rude person who insinuated a personal attack against this woman.

  136. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    The reason I don’t see the PW happening in season 3 is because they haven’t cast The Red Viper. He needs to be introduced to the audience before the PW, IMO. Of course, you could have said the same thing about the Riverrun characters,Ramsey, andJojen & Meera.Isuppose it is possible to have him arrive at court after Tyrion has been arrested. I’d just miss their scenes together when Oberyn arrives in KL.

    A woman has thought about this, and isn’t it possible that the PW could happen with the Martells being shown only from a distance at table so that costumed extras could hold those spots for actors to be determined later? With elaborate “dress” helms and veils, etc., the audience wouldn’t have to see the actual actor’s faces or heights if sitting at table during the wedding feast. Then, the family is seen as represented yet not actually spoken aloud yet. A thought, it could work that way and still happen in S3 without the extra casting till S4.

  137. Rygar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Seriously?

    So not cool. You’re like the sixth mintest person on here regularly. :)

    Mrs. H’ghar: Not Andrew, but a woman will not repeat the name of the rude person who insinuated a personal attack against this woman.

  138. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    I’m a huge fan of the wardrobe department, however omitting the call of Rattleshirt thing, they dropped the ball on several occasions.
    I would love to ask Michelle Clapton several questions as to the inconsistency the show. On certain costumes the attention to detail and research is enormous! But on others there are some really silly slip ups.
    For instance (my biggest headache) in season 1 we see Theon Greyjoy in full plate armour, however Robb’s, the Commander in chief and later king, armour is half plate and half leather (which is a much lower quality armour). Even Jorah Mormont (a poor and exiled knight) has better quality armour.
    Stannis’ armour covers only part of his torso and he wears no helmet or carries a shield (being the practical man that he is, Stannis would wear both).
    Most Lannister guardsmen wear plate armour, yet Ser Amory Lorch (an officer) is clad in leather.
    How do you tell Lannister officers apart seeing as they are all armoured the same (even Lord Tywin, although he wears a fancy sash).
    There were some other issues I had that I’ve forgotten now.
    As for the Quartheen gown, Emilia Clarke stated (although I dunno if she was just joking) that it was too cold to have the traditional Quartheen gown. It might have had more to do with young men watching the show being unable to concentrate on anything happening on screen than anything else.

  139. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Rimshot:
    Carrickfergus Castle would have made a cracking set but I suspect it’s too ‘touristy’. It’s in the middle of Carrick and has swarms of tourists all the time. Although the ramparts are all intact and I’m sure a creative director could squeeze out a few interesting shots.

    Interesting to see the ‘them & us’ between Gary Lightbody and the regular extras. If any of us tweeted a photo in costume like he did we would never work on the show again.

    Isn’t it possible that GL got special permission to tweet one pic of him in costume since he has a fan following of his own? Many regular extras wouldn’t have that advantage of free publicity/their own following that could bring in more viewers to GoT, in this woman’s opinion. Sort of like an unofficial/approved leak?

  140. Bgap
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Wes,

    “Rage quit”…Hahaha. I agree. Not sure if the Dany “Mother” scene, Brienne’s rescue from the bear, Sam’s escape from Crater’s, and Jon’s escape from Queenscrown will be enough positive at season 3’s end to balance the utter bleakness of RW. Definitely worse than Ned’s death, because by the time of RW, we’ll have had these characters around for nearly 3 seasons…and season 1 had the birth of the dragon’s to balance Ned’s execution. That said, my predication track record on this show has been below average. That’s OK. I like surprises, especially when they work.

    8 months and a few days till we start finding out. Wonder when the countdown clock will go up?

  141. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    spannycat,

    Agreed
    Her talking like that is the reason I started reading, and became a fan, of her posts.
    Make the Andrew man FLY!

    FYI, not Andrew…a woman believes that Andrew is a true knight. Many thanks for your support Aegon, and Jaqen said “Hi” back (from another thread)!

  142. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Isn’t it possible that GL got special permission to tweet one pic of him in costume since he has a fan following of his own? Many regular extras wouldn’t have that advantage of free publicity/their own following that could bring in more viewers to GoT, in this woman’s opinion. Sort of like an unofficial/approved leak?

    Rimshot is in a band. He must have a fan base. I think he should put his case to D+D…:)
    Personally I think a few more pictures of the hard working extras would do no harm.
    I know for a fact that ( Lady ) Helen Sloan has plenty in her vault.

  143. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: FYI, not Andrew…a woman believes that Andrew is a true knight

    Andrew IS innocent! Keep the Moon Door closed til The “Real ” Mountain is brought forth…………………Wuv you Mrs H`ghar.

  144. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Ah I see it is Adrian. Now that we have the true culprit two things. One apologies to Ser Andrew for mistaken identity. Two, “Ser Illyn! Bring me his head!”
    Seriously Adrian think twice before taking on a popular WIC.net regular, as you have seen both knights and kings from all over the Seven Kingdoms will clamour to defend her honour.

    Two Feathers I sincerely hope that some or other time you treat us to some of the pictures you have taken during previously aired seasons.

  145. Andrew
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    In the words of dear old Edd, I never did learn the knack of flying. Cheers for holding off on my execution :P

    By the way, for those on iPads wanting to write spoilers, the HTML tags are right below the comment box. Spoilers are and without the spaces. I saw someone earlier was having trouble, so maybe this will help. It’s a bit hard trying to vaguely hint at future events in a discussion haha.

  146. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror: Two Feathers I sincerely hope that some or other time you treat us to some of the pictures you have taken during previously aired seasons

    Forgive me Your Grace , this shall only be possible when the sun rises in the west ETC. and all lawyers have been put to the sword.

  147. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    fuelpagan:
    Game Of Thongs,

    I’m not sure about the rest of the world, but this is a common practice now by corporations in the USA. If you are looking to expand into a new region you put City A against City B and see who has the better deal. It may be tax incentives or free use of a good building or free land. The city that gives up more gets the expansion. Cities do this to boost the economy and create jobs for the area. So even though they may have given up the tax incentives to this corporation, they still get to tax the income of the workers, the sales tax of the employees when they go to lunch. All the little things a working person pays to a city instead of drawing unemployment. So a city helping its citizens find jobs also helps themselves.

    In this case Croatia is paying HBO to film to bring jobs too its citizens, but also banking on the show filming in their city driving up tourism. HBO knows the benefits they bring to filming a big production like Game of Thrones in an area and therefore expect to be paid something for it.

    Personally I find it a gross injustice of the little guys tax dollars paying the big company for a job just so he can be taxed some more. But I can’t deny the logic in why a company would do this, nor why a city would be willing to pay. I guess I’m saying I understand it, but it still bothers me.

    A woman also understands that this seems unfair that the taxpayer really ends up bearing the cost of the tax breaks given to companies in order to bring business to an area…but cannot think of another way that an otherwise industry-poor region could attract businesses to provide jobs for their communities. So, no matter how “free market” a person may think, we are ALL supporting business in our communities one way or another as our taxes pay for the roads, police, etc. This goes all the way to the grocery store, as manufacturers have to pay for shelf space in order to present their products to customers. It helps a producer with the basic costs of production if they don’t have to worry about a large tax bill at the end of their shoot one would imagine. Film and television producers are taking great risks with every production, so any break that would make it less expensive is a plus in their calculations on whether a show can go forward or not.

  148. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers: Andrew IS innocent! Keep the Moon Door closed til The “Real ” Mountainis brought forth…………………Wuv you Mrs H`ghar.

    A woman is grateful for your support and returns your wuv!

  149. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    In other words when the Winds of Winter come out (sobs!)
    Well at least you’ll have some amazing stories and pics to show your grankids.

  150. Rygar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    That was me. Thank you.

    Andrew,

  151. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Two Feathers,

    In other words when the Winds of Winter come out (sobs!)
    Well at least you’ll have some amazing stories and pics to show your grankids.

    Won`t be havin any grankids. But thats another story. My photos, scrap book, books signed by the cast and a couple of souvenirs will probably end up on ebay at some stage.
    Seriously though, we will see what happens when the show has run its course. It would be nice if HBO allowed any unofficial photos to be posted on this dedicated site after the last season has aired. But hey we are not half way through yet , so hopefully my scrapbook will keep expanding.

  152. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    A shame, would’ve been one hell of a story.
    When the time comes for those books to make it’s way unto ebay, you come to me.

  153. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers: Won`t be havin any grankids. But thats another story. My photos, scrap book, books signed by the cast and a couple of souvenirs will probably end up on ebay at some stage.
    Seriously though, we will see what happens when the show has run its course. It would be nice if HBO allowed any unofficial photos to be posted on this dedicated site after the last season has aired.But hey we are not half way through yet , so hopefully my scrapbook will keep expanding.

    Perhaps HBO would permit you to post them on their “Making Of GoT” page for all to enjoy? It seems there’s not much happening there right now and it would seem a good time for some retrospective extra photos to be seen from past seasons that have already aired? And then you can sell your original prints and goodies someday on ebay, a woman would certainly bid up the price! But will not pay the Iron Price (giggles).

  154. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Two Feathers,

    A shame, would’ve been one hell of a story.
    When the time comes for those books to make it’s way unto ebay, you come to me.

    Dude I think The Morrigan will have come for me when that happens.

  155. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Making Of GoT” page

    Thanks for mentioning the Making Of page. You know I have it in my favourites but I haven`t checked it out since Brian Cogman stopped doing it after season one, the picture of a truck at a quarry was the final straw for me , and I never went back. Must go and catch up.

  156. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    Haha beqeuth them to me in your will ;-)
    Or else request that whoever gets them sell them once allowed.

  157. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    I plan to live as long as Maester Aemon, by then people think of Maisie and Issac the way we would think of Lillian Gish and Buster Keaton. …lol !

  158. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    Seeing as I’m much younger, there’s a good chance I’ll be alive then. It will go nicely with my life size Iron Throne.

  159. sunspear
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Question- Why does everyone think that they won’t be casting Oberyn Martell this season?

  160. darquemode
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    Many people think that the Dornish will not be shown this season. At most they will arrive for the Purple Wedding which may or may not make Season 3, but if it does it should be the last episode.

    From a cost perspective it makes more sense to avoid casting the Dornish until next season. Instead of having one episode this season and being in the majority of the episodes next season, they can push back the Dornish arrival at King’s Landing and have all their scenes in Season 4. Of course that also means the Purple Wedding is pushed back to Season 4. Some people have a hard time imagining that….

  161. sunspear
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    But we don’t need ‘the Dornish’ for season 3. We only need the Red Viper in all his glory.

  162. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Was wondering when you were gonna show up, now all whose missing is WildSeed.

  163. Two Feathers
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Two Feathers,

    Seeing as I’m much younger, there’s a good chance I’ll be alive then. It will go nicely with my life size Iron Throne.

    “Much younger” really………rub it in why don`t you. LoL!! I feel 25 on the inside, but that is probably still older than you……..HAR!!
    Thanks for the “Craic”. it is time for my Ovaltine and medication and then of to bed. Smell you later.

  164. darquemode
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    In the books he arrives well after the midway point of the book and with his entourage, but I guess theoretically they could have him arrive alone without an entourage.

    I did not mean to say if they cast one role from Dorne they need to cast them all…. just that from a stroy telling point of view they can push it back into Season 4. Much like they pushed back many parts of the Riverlands story from ACoK into Season 3 or pushed back the Reeds arrival from ACoK into Season 3.

    D&D have a pattern of postponing early introductions if they can. Plus I think Oberyn not being part of their original casting announcement for roles to be cast makes many think they will not cast him this year. That was of course an incomplete list, so it is cetainly possible the Red Viper will arive in King’s Landing this year.

    Personally I can see having the Dornish arrive for the Pruple Wedding in Season 3, and I can see why they would push it back into Season 4. I have no clue which direction they will go honestly. I was just trying to explain why some think no Dornish will be in Season 3.

  165. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    Haha my apologies good Ser, but yes 25 is still several years older than I am.
    Good night dear Ser.
    Oh btw hows the injury treating you?

    Watson

    Agreed. I’m getting the same feeling at Obnoxious and Loud’s arrival that I’m sure European Kings felt when they heard the Mongols were approaching.

  166. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 7:23 pm | Permalink

    Two Feathers,

    I was thinking maybe we should trade, the business end of the rugby season is approaching so m body is feeling like it’s 45!

  167. Joshua Atreides
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    This is Joshua Taylor only with a kickass ‘cybernym’…
    I think D &D’s golden rule is if you can wait for another season’s budget to carry the financial burden then hold back any new Houses and locations as much as possible. Hence the Tullys not appearing until season 3.

  168. Alan
    Posted July 24, 2012 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Re: this ‘GRRM is our bitch’ attitude:

    No human being is anyone’s bitch. What a disgusting thought. To paraphrase Samwell Tarly: he’s a person not a goat!

    No, don’t you understand? If I pay you for something, even if you deliver the product I paid for, I get to be a complete asshole to you.

    Today, I got McDonalds for lunch, and in addition to my Big Mac meal, my $6.99 got me the ability to cuss out both the order taker AND the sandwich maker.

    I’m a giant dickhead, so yelling at people makes my day. The only thing that would have made it better would be if it was someone executing a really difficult task, requiring a tremendous amount of hard work, experience and talent, because those are the people my talentless ass really likes to get annoyed with.

  169. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    A thought on adaptation and the logistics of producing the show:

    The purple wedding would very likely be at the end of S4 so that they can neatly finish up Jack Gleeson’s contract without keeping him for only a part of the following season. Suitable s3 cliffhanger could be Tyrion picking up Joffrey’s chalice, realises what’s happened, then looks up and locks eyes with Cersei who points accusingly etc etc then flash to black.

    On another note, legit musician cameo FTW – I also would find him pretty cool as Tom. Anyone know if he if had lines and/or was just doing a single day’s shoot? How many scenes can they shoot in a day? If it’s a couple, he might appear a couple of times, scattered across the season.

  170. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    Snow Patrol guy is going to be hired for a wedding methinks….

  171. Django Djavos
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:49 am | Permalink

    Wes,

    Pretty much agree with all of this, Ep8: RW, Ep10: PW should be how it goes down. Many people seem to be saying PW won’t happen in S3 as they haven’t cast Red Viper or Dornish…but why can’t the Dornish just arrive after? He hates the Lannisters anyway, so no big plot stretch to have him snub wedding invite and then arrive afterward scenting blood, and revenge!

    Going back to original post above, I’d be very surprised if Mr. Lightbody is anything other than a non-speaking extra. At most he may sing a tune in background as anonymous minstrel. Just seems to be a case of famous fan being granted walk-on part wish (like Ian Brown + Jarvis Cocker in Harry Potter).

  172. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:57 am | Permalink

    The other possibility is that they ARE going to cast the Red Viper so he can appear at the PW but HBO won’t make any announcements until as late as possible, so it’s a bit of a surprise in E9 or E10 for book readers who were expecting D&D to have postponed him. Maybe they also don’t want to make it too obvious from casting details whether the PW is going to happen this season or next.

    Bearing in mind that they haven’t confirmed what characters will be cast (they’ve never officially said there’ll even be a Ramsay – though it’s fairly obvious there will) and they’ve got a good few big casting announcements to come – Mance, Vargo Hoat etc.

  173. wolfsandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    wyvernwood,

    hi. im in killyleagh for the week hunting out game of thrones sets. i think they r filmng up at the castle this week cos i saw the hbo truck and a big tent there………but can u tell me were exactly the jetty is? me and my dad wanna snoop around the set ;) thanks.

  174. axia777
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    feyrband: I think Neil Gaiman said it best: “George R. R. Martin is not your bitch.

    That is nice. He had better not pull a Jordan. >:(

  175. Kelly
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    wolfsandlions,

    The Jetty is at the Quoile in Downpatrick. If you take the road right down to the bottom past the castle you cant miss it! But the have 6ft wire fences round the whole site now and there are 2 security there at all times so u might now get anywhere near it! But good luck!! I got a few pics last week there wasnt as much security. Try sneeking along the path after the first car park you see after the castle. You might see from there but i don’t think u’ll get any closer.

  176. Kelly
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Game of Thrones in the local news paper today. The Down Recorder. If you wanna see the pics head over to my twitter @lilmissrenner i’ve just posted them. Don’t know how to post them here! But no mention of shooting date. So fricken frustrating!! Im so close and I can’t watch!!! GRRRR!!!!

  177. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Kelly,

    Cool. The article is online as well. http://www.thedownrecorder.co.uk/pages/?title=Game_of_Thrones_coming_to_Downpatrick It’s a bit easier to read there but it lacks the two pictures from the newspaper. All the sites they mention besides Quoile are examples from last year’s filming, so it doesn’t look like there’s any new info. Would be nice if they were kind enough to share filming dates with everyone. :)

  178. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    axia777,

    I’m almost positive that GRRM has no control over whether or not he pulls a Jordan.

  179. Lisa
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Idk if someone has posted this already but it seems like this actress: https://twitter.com/AmbeeRose was cast for GoT as well.

  180. darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Lisa,

    Interesting!
    I thought at first it was going to be Amber Rose Kevah and they had cast Nymeria Sand or Arianne Martell! Guess not….

    I wonder if she is a Tyrell cousin? Right age I guess. I don’t see much info on her for any of the movies she mentioned so she must have had fairly minor roles. Featured extra work maybe? Maybe she uses a stage name?

  181. Lisa
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,
    Yeah, I think it’s most likely featured extra work. Couldn’t find any information on her either.

  182. darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    Lisa,

    Maybe… or she’s just having fun or trolling for followers etc…
    Feels like Asim Ahmad all over again….

  183. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Kelly,

    thanks! me and my dad found the spot! we got some photo but it was from afar. the fish posts hav been painted now! i also got a photo of a van with aquafilms on the back! and other snaps! if any WIC staff want these please let me know! it was such a buzz running from the security! my email is [email protected] thanks! btw whilst walking around me and my dad found the exact spot where brienne and jaime encountered the Stark bannermen and the three corpses hung on the tree. we have photos of that too if you want!

  184. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    That Ambee girl comes off like she’s lying, or basically an extra. She has no resume to speak of.

    wolvesandlions,

    Why don’t you email us those pics and we can take a look. Sounds cool. :)

  185. Jake
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Yeah, Asim Ahmad is a fraud. It upsets me that so many people fall for his shenanigans.

  186. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    okay! il sort them out. whats the email? :P

  187. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    Just emailed you back. :)

  188. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    So on the topic of the Purple Wedding, am I right in assuming Ollena Tyrrel aka Queen of Thorns is behind the beautiful scene of Joffrey clawing his own throat out? Oh please D@D make it as gory as possible, Jack Gleeson is awesome but want to see Joff suffer!

  189. paylor
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Has anyone heard how Kit Harington is recovering from his broken ankle? Are they pushing back any of his scenes because of it?

  190. Kelly
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    Can you email them to me pretty please :^) [email protected] Haven’t been down in a few days. Where was the spot of Jaime and Brienne meeting the bannermen?( Was it out in Raholp direstion?If so I think I know where it was) Wasn’t at the quoile they haven’t filmed there yet. Also if you go out Raholp direction they filmed in fields out the back of the Slaney inn but you’d have to track through a few of them cos im not sure where exactly it was. Further on down is Audleystown castle which was used for Robb and his Banner men. I grew up there know those fields like the back of my hand just haven’t had the time to go out and have a proper look around.

  191. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Kelly,

    okay. i will send them on to you :) the encounter scene was on a walk from castle ward actually. we parked at castle ward were they filmed winterfell courtyard and walked up and around the costal trail. u can see portaferry and you when you get to audley’s tower aboce you turn right to follow the coast. you will enter the tree line and there is a huge tree and a turn in the road! thats it! it was so weird. Jaime was in my mind! XD hope this helps :)

  192. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    sent :)

  193. margaeryBABEyrell
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    Security chased you? Elaborate. Was down last night and it was sweet.

  194. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    margaeryBABEyrell,

    well we got turned back on main road down so we were like okay we gunna get some shots XD so we went down the path and snap snap “oi! you! i told you to turn back!” me and my dad were like “SHIT!!!” and we ran back to the car! :P we are over for a week on holiday! we wanted to see some game of thrones stuff and haypresto! next year we are thinking Dubrovnik! XD then hopfully iceland?

  195. sunspear
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    In my book, RV appears on page 521 out of 1128, a little bit before the midway point, and 180 pages before the RW.

    Really, I don’t see any reason that D&D wouldn’t cast him and only him. Putting him off to Season four will screw up the timeline to a ridiculous degree.

  196. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    RV? D&D?

  197. sunspear
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    RV = the Red Viper

    D&D = the show creators, David benioff and Dan Weiss

  198. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    omg duuh!! im suck a fool! ;)

  199. margaeryBABEyrell
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    This is cool. The jetty wasn’t there before. Totally made for the episode. I don’t get HBO. They aren’t really treating us Northern Irish folk well. I mean, fans want to see SOMETHING, anything. It’s perfect for NI tourism and they’re so uptight about everything. :(

    Audleystown Castle features a lot as Robb’s camp. The shots of the castle and the lough ARE of Strangford Lough… with Portaferry digitally removed.

  200. Kelly
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    margaeryBABEyrell,

    Hey, do you live in Downpatrick? Maybe we know each other.

  201. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    margaeryBABEyrell,

    sweet! i saw that in the Brienne/Jaime scene still has Portaferry in the background XD i watched it again just to ouble check my place was correct XD

  202. Kelly
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    Thanks for the pics :) Yes I know where it is now. Haven’t been down there in years.

  203. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Kelly,

    no proplem man! im heading to the giants causeway tomorrow and they filmed loads upthere so wel spend the day taking photos! got 500 left on the camera! ;)

  204. Kelly
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    Im going on the Titancon coach tour in Sept, Giants Causeway is one of the sites we are visiting.

  205. wolvesandlions
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Kelly,

    sweet! me and my dad were going to go to Titancon! we wdv seen you, but my mum and i moved to France this year so we rnt able to this year :( we hope to go next year. i mean it is only going to get bigger! ;)

  206. darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    You’re right, my bad!
    Sad thing is I actually looked up when the RV shows up and then managed to get the next Tyrion chapter instead so I thought it was Chapter 54 not Chapter 39. I blame the heat? XD

    I pretty much agree about the RV or all the Dornish for that matter. The viper can arrive whenever to take his seat on the Small Council, but his impending duel with Gregor needs to be before PW. I would also have liked if they could have inserted a scene with Myrcella arriving in Dorne with Arys Oakheart.

  207. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    sunspear,

    You’re right, my bad!
    Sad thing is I actually looked up when the RV shows up and then managed to get the next Tyrion chapter instead so I thought it was Chapter 54 not Chapter 39. I blame the heat? XD

    I pretty much agree about the RV or all the Dornish for that matter. The viper can arrive whenever to take his seat on the Small Council, but his impending duel with Gregor needs to be before PW. I would also have liked if they could have inserted a scene with Myrcella arriving in Dorne with Arys Oakheart.

    A woman thinks you might be a little off on the timing of the RV duel with Gregor, that has to happen AFTER the PW (where Joff dies) because the reason for the duel is that Tyrion is blamed for the PW and thrown in the dungeon, then demands trial by combat (worked for him in the Eyre, why not this time). So, RV doesn’t have to be there for the PW, but could probably be an extra in the RV’s fancy dress seen from afar if they haven’t cast him yet (mentioned this possibility in an earlier comment, can’t remember where).

  208. darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Of course. XD
    I edited what I wrote and forgot to change “before” to “after” when I changed it. To be more clear, I meant I think Oberyn Martell should arrive before the PW so that he can be Tyrion’s champion at the trial by combat after the PW. It would feel very contrived to me if he arrived after PW and then offered to be Tyrion’s champion… . Technically they could do it of course, but it does not sit as well with me I guess…..

  209. darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Looks like AmbeeRose replied to Winter’s tweet saying she will be a “small extra” on Thrones. It does seem a little odd to be flying Transatlantic to be an extra, but as a fan I might be willing to do it so….. So why can’t she? XD

    She seems to like a frequent Tweeter…. Might be worth keeping an eye on this to see if she gives away any scene information or film details…… IF HBO doesn’t lock her down! XD

  210. WildSeed
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    darquemode,

    Was wondering when you were gonna show up, now all whose missing is WildSeed.

    Greetings great lords and bannermen ( and great women) all. I am back from the
    US Midwest abyss and it is good to be back. I am very much out of sync with current
    vents and was only reviewing through most posts in order to catch up. Apparently
    WiFi is not equal in lesser urban areas or at least small towns in the midwest.
    Hmm… no Dornishmen featured in S3, I’m quite relieved by that. Considering
    upcoming significant events ( seize of Winterfell/ emergence of Stark family
    betrayals/Brienne’s southern journey/ Littlefinger’s plot/Jon’s life among the
    Wildlings/Danerys’s march towards Mereen/ Stannis. We will likely see a bit
    much of Cersei and Tyrion instead of Beric and Thoros or the Tully’s as well
    ( I would guess).The point is there is so much to continue from S2 and introduce
    new material to S3. These guys have a lot on their plate to accomplish and with
    high expectations from the committed fan base. The pros know what to do, I’m
    just anxious as I’d envision each scene and significant moments. As it was with
    S1 I hope enough filming is done in key places that may be used in later episodes
    or the following season ( nice continuity that way). Glad to be missed Aegon :D

  211. WildSeed
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Guess who I saw on Dr Who today? the actor who played “Craster”. This is Matt Smith
    as the Doctor and the scenes are within a countryside town with mining equiptment
    he uses which somehow disturbs earth/soil dwelling natives ( not aliens mind you ).
    Pond was swallowed up but the good doctor prevailed.

  212. WildSeed
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Mrs H’ghar, how do you keep up with your spouse’s ever changing faces? Is this a
    secret only a wife would know? How do you know when he is lying? do not be dismayed
    as this something we all do. Lady Arya only learned after many painful mistakes. May
    you an yours forever be at ease.

    darquemode, I hope you never experience a muggy 110 degree Michigan summer my
    friend. It’s enough to force a lady to weep in remembrance of the San Francisco tulle
    fog ( nature’s air conditioning).

  213. darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Thanks… I think. XD
    I had 103 muggy Minnesotan day not too long a go. Does that count?

  214. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Looks like AmbeeRose replied to Winter’s tweet saying she will be a “small extra” on Thrones. It does seem a little odd to be flying Transatlantic to be an extra, but as a fan I might be willing to do it so….. So why can’t she? XD

    She seems to like a frequent Tweeter…. Might be worth keeping an eye on this to see if she gives away any scene information or film details…… IF HBO doesn’t lock her down! XD

    Your suspicions are correct. There is no way they would hire some no-name Canadian for a “small extra” role. She’s lying. The photo she tweeted of her flying over to Belfast is actually a picture she found on Flickr.

    http://twitter.com/AmbeeRose/status/228263502886883328/photo/1
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdlike/4379094927/

  215. Lex
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:53 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    LOL, bruuutal! Who would lie about this kind of stuff, and WHY?!?

  216. WildSeed
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    So hot so cold , how does one acclimate to such extreme temperatures? Is there a
    large body of water nearby? Michigan ( I think ) is referred to as the “Land of Lakes”
    but all I witnessed flying overhead were small puddles with no large river tributaries.
    I grew up in the tropical Caribbean and sub tropic /coastal SE so I have a natural
    aversion to extremes but I am in awe of the autumn seasonal changes in the NE.
    I did my winter stint in my earlier years ( Uof M) and felt like an Eskimo explorer, those
    days of adventure were awesome and scary cold, NYC the worst though. SF has spoiled
    me, I’m sure the realm that you and yours reside present with nature’s beauty as
    anywhere. Just be sure to give thanks to the Drowned God before you leap into the nearest
    lake to escape the heat. Never forget though, Winter is Coming…

  217. ace
    Posted July 25, 2012 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    I am impressed you able to track down the source of the picture

  218. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    For attention, rather juvenile but adults have been known to do this.

  219. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    ace, Google Reverse Image search is a thing of beauty.

    As soon as I saw her tweet the photo I knew she may have inadvertently outed herself. Unfortunately I was on my way to seeing The Dark Knight Rises, so I wasn’t able to confirm my suspicions until now (it’s a long movie!).

    As to why? I guess some people just really crave attention.

  220. darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Ha!
    My mom is a flight attendant and maybe 6 months ago I was trying to help her find a profile photo that was plane related. I bet I saw that same photo! XD

    Well damn! So much for real casting news. People just wanting followers I guess.

    Hopefully some real news will come out when a few more locations start shooting. I think I have withdrawl…. The other day I had a dream about Thrones casting news! XD

    The only one I recall was Robson Green was cast as Mance Rayder. I suspect me watching Wire in the Blood recently may have had a little to do with that! XD

  221. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Re: The Dark Knight Rises, awesome movie but Littlefinger’s teleportation device from season 2 has a far wider range than I thought!

  222. andrea
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    darquemode: The other day I had a dream about Thrones casting news! XD

    The only one I recall was Robson Green was cast as Mance Rayder. I suspect me watching Wire in the Blood recently may have had a little to do with that!

    I’m starting to worry about you! but dreaming with R. Green is not that bad I guess. The plastic bag he carries everywhere always made me laugh. New season?

  223. darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    andrea,

    Old season actually. I stopped watching after season 5 and was just finishing the movie and Season 6.

    I’m not sure Green is even do film work right now. Last scripted series I saw him on was Being Human in 2011 where he had a multiple episode arc. I think now he hosts an extreme fishing reality series where he travels around the world fishing. I caught an episode around Christmas I think, but I have no idea if there is a new season of that show or what he is up to honestly.

  224. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    WildSeed:
    Mrs H’ghar, how do you keep up with your spouse’s ever changing faces? Is this a
    secret only a wife would know? How do you know when he is lying? do not be dismayed
    as this something we all do. Lady Arya only learned after many painful mistakes. May
    you an yours forever be at ease.

    A woman always knows. ; – )

  225. Pepi
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 3:14 am | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Yep … I’m pretty sure I saw him fishing eels in China less than an hour ago. :D

  226. Kelly
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 4:21 am | Permalink

    wolvesandlions,

    Unfortunatly not going on the Saturday, babysitters are hard to come by :( But would not miss the tour for anything! Will def be going again next year, my sis and I will make it a yearly outing I think. So We shall see you there in Sept 2013 ;^)

  227. Kelly
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 4:27 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    As someone who has seen the contract you have to sign when becoming an extra she is lying her butt off! You are not allowed to talk about anything! or you get the boot! No pics to be taken on set, no talking to the actors, no asking for autographs your not even allowed your phone on set! They do not pay for travel either, so if shes an extra flying over from where ever shes paying the bill herself. I have seen her tweets telling whoever she would send them pics, i’d like to see her try lol. HBO are taking no crap lol.

  228. Wolvesandlions
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 4:48 am | Permalink

    Kelly,

    i hope so! :) if not then deffo 2014! and i dont get why anyone would lie about being casted for GoT! :O

  229. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 6:16 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Take a look at Kingdom of Heaven, you’ll see Craster as some lord, Jaime as his son (plus Kingslayer gets his head stoved in!) and Ser Jorah as a king! Last one was the hardest to recognise.

  230. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Maybe you should change your name to Bloodraven?
    How many eyes does Winter is Coming have just doesn’t sound right ;-)

  231. Kelly
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 6:40 am | Permalink

    Wolvesandlions,

    My guess is for the attention and the extra followers! From what I can see on her twitter she hasn’t even given her self enough time to fly from Canada to Belfast lol.

  232. Rimshot
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    Two Feathers:

    I think Snow Patrol has slightly more fans than The Nameless so I’m not sure if I could swing that argument!

    GL will have been invited to the set by D&D and given the extra role as a gift so he doesn’t fall under the same restrictions as us extras. I have a S1 pic in a very similar pose to GLs which I couldn’t publish anywhere until after the show had aired.

  233. darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Great film!
    I just added this to my Netflix queue the other day.

    You missed one Thrones cast member I noticed…. Bronson Webb, the actor who played Will (died in prologue of TV series) has a minor role in Kingdom of Heaven. I had to use IMDB to recall him though!

    It also has a few other actors I (or others) want to see on Thrones!
    Alexander Siddig – Many like him as Oberyn or Doran Martell.
    Brendan Gleeson – I like Gleeson as Mace Tyrell.
    Khaled Nabawy – I’d like him as Oberyn quite a bit I think
    Marton Csokas – I have not found the right role for him, but I’d love to see him in GOT.

    OT but I was watching some old Le Femme Nikita and just saw the PERFECT Tom O’Sevens should Thrones include him… Julian Richings! XD

    It’s like GRRM was describing Richings as he described Tom!
    – Around 50
    – Small man
    – Big mouth
    – Pointy nose
    – Thin hair

  234. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Oh yes, hes one of the grave diggers forgot about him. Recently (after years of searching, I might add) got my hands on a copy of the Directorcs Cut of Kingdom of Heaven. The studio really did Ridley Scot injustice by not allowing that version to be the one released to the theatres.

    Oh very much agree with the two Martell choices, especially Khaled for the Red Viper.
    I’d pick Brendan Gleeson for Mace Tyrrel or Randyll Tarly.
    Martin Csokas would make an awesome Mance Rayder! Or Victorian Greyjoy imo.

  235. Arkash
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    What about Ghassan Massoud for Doran ?

  236. darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Arkash,

    I like that idea too.

    I started making a Season 4 casting list a week or two ago and now added him to my current (and ever-changing) short list for Doran along with the 3 I’ve seen many people mention (Alexander Siddig, Ciaran Hinds, and Erick Avari) along with my personal favorite for the role, Cliff Simon.

    I have pictured Simon as Doran and Oded Fehr as Oberyn for a few years now. They look similar enough to play brothers….and both have the acting skills and personality for the roles to me. The 8 years between them is close to the 10 years between Doran and Oberyn too.

  237. diozxdezire
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Winter Is Coming,

    Re: The Dark Knight Rises, awesome movie but Littlefinger’s teleportation device from season 2 has a far wider range than I thought!

    I said the same thing lol he had no transportation or money and was in like iran yet he got to gotham within 10 hrs. Littlefinger would be jealous of such speed. Lol i literally just sat there like ummmmm how?

  238. SnowFort
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    I hope they don’t go caucasian for the Martells.

    I like tho think of asoiaf as one big melting pot of colour.

  239. WolvesandLions
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Kelly,

    XD haha yeah!

  240. WolvesandLions
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    see i think Julian Richings would be PERFECT for Lem! XD

  241. Macha
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Arkash:
    What about Ghassan Massoud for Doran ?

    From your keyboard to Nina Gold’s ears/eyes! I was also saving this suggestion for the Doran Martell casting thread, he’s an amazing actor and nothing (and no one) will ever top his Saladin. Pure perfection.

  242. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Arkash,

    Oh yes I so agree with this one, he was amazing in Kingdom of Heaven! I can just see him as the patriarch of the family. Solid call!

    Mr’s H’ghar’s twin

    It’s just too much, whereas Mrs H’ghar’s statement are quorky, entertaining and true to the show, yours is just a bit too much. Henceforth ignoring your posts. The irratation is just that your name looks too much like hers. Please change it andjust be your own person.

  243. Tenesmus
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I am assuming that the Martells will be mentioned and built up alot in Season 3, much like Stannis was in Season 1. Ep 10 will be the PW and the season will end with Tyrion chucked in a dungeon. Seson 4 will start with the trial and Tyrion’s muder spree and escape. I honestly believe that D&D have the whole series mapped out to include the unwritten books. they already know where each ep of each season ends for the entire series

  244. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Ghassan’s Saladin was superlative. Sadly I doubt we will see his awesomeness grace Game of Thrones any time soon. Recalling the documentary on the making of Kingdom of Heaven that came with the special edition director’s cut DVD, Ridley Scott discovered Ghassan in a native Syrian production that had been showcasing another actor considered for the part. According to Scott, Ghassan is great but he knows very little English, so the chances of getting him for Doran Martell are slim.

    Darquemode

    For the Doran Martell considerations I recommend Portuguese actor Joachim De la Meida from Clear Present and Danger and 24 Fame. He would be good. Too bad he wasn’t so fleshy otherwise he would be an awesome Red Viper. Another consideration for Doran would be Gianncarlo Giannini.

    I really want Alexander Siddig as the Viper. He could bulk up a little bit for the action scenes, but he would blow people away, mark my words. Plus he’s a great genre fave casting.

    Oh I just had a brainstorm, thinking of 24 I just thought who would be the perfect age to play the Red Viper….fucking Tony Almeida himself, Carlos Bernard!

  245. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I’m a big fan of A. Siddig and B. Gleeson especially as Oberyn and Mace. I
    considered Alexander for Daario but discarded that idea as Daario the sleaze
    is no worthy role for Alexander. Gleeson as Tyrell is awesome and presents
    himself as adaptable for most roles. Did you see ” The Guard” with Don
    Cheadle and Gleeson ?

  246. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    WildSeed,

    Take a look at Kingdom of Heaven, you’ll see Craster as some lord, Jaime as his son (plus Kingslayer gets his head stoved in!) and Ser Jorah as a king! Last one was the hardest to recognise.

    I saw ” Kingdom of Heaven” and missed them all. Ironically, I spotted the actors
    for ser Jorah and Craster in starring roles on “Dr Who”. Joe Dempsie, and the actors
    portraying Margarey and Yoren were all starring in ” The Fades” in 2011 . Small
    world but exciting when you get to witness somewhat their professional acting range.

  247. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Watch it again, I assure you seeing Jaime Lannister get his head bashed in by the awesome Liam Neeson is worth it. Ser Jorah appears right at the end as King Richard the Lionheart.

  248. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    diozxdezire,

    I was more referring to the fact that actor Aidan Gillen (Littlefinger) played the CIA agent in the prologue.

  249. darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    Tenesmus,

    I think they probably have the first 5 books plotted, but I doubt it is as detailed as knowing every scene. When it comes to filming some things look great on a script but for some reason just do not work on film and I bet they need to rewrite scenes all the time.

    I agree with you though about character build up or in this case, location build up. I think we will get a lot of Dorne mentiones as a set up for next year. We may even see the Red Viper I guess. I really cannot figure out exactly how D&D will arrange the end of the season.

  250. darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I like all those actors you mentioned and can see Giancarlo as Doran pretty easily really even though I had not thought of him. I always pictured the Martells more as Mediterranean, Northern African or Near-Eastern I guess. Of course they can mix and match ethnicities and are not locked into one! XD

  251. darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I did see the Gaurd… great movie. At first i was not sure what to make of it but after 15 or 20 minutes I settled into the rhythm of the movvie and just loved it! I was glad it got some Oscar nomination love last year!

    I found some more actors (or career extra level actors) that I think are perfect for Daario, but I doubt they will be cast.

    Abhin Galeya has been in many UK series and films, but is probably best known for ‘The Bill’ where he played PC Arun Ghir for more than 20 episodes.

    Santi Scinelli is basically new to acting and only done extra work far as I can tell, but he is almost exactly how I pictured Daario. I never pictured him as traditionally handsome even though Dany fell for him. I always thought it was about his swagger more than his looks I guess. Santi has the tall and lean, long hooked nose like described in the books. Never seen him act though so I can’t say I like him for the role in the end, but his look is how I saw Daario.

    The guy I cannot get out of my mind since earlier this month when I saw Salmon fishing in the Yemen is Amr Waked. His role is completely different personality wise, but something about him screams Daario to me now. Maybe he could be Oberyn too, but too young for Doran.

  252. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Thanks for the info. Galeya’s profile didn’t load for me but Scinelli’s did and gave
    me pause. Possibly any Afri-Mediterranean/accomplished actor could fit the
    perceived image of Daario or Oberyn. I just hope they/he brings that essential
    spark to the role. I was expectant with Xhoan Daxos part was cast and I loved
    the clothing designs, but he was too nice and very different as the overbearing
    and false Daxos. I’m satisfied with his being caught in the end, but other than
    that introduction to Qarthe and of course Quaithe, the city and it’s inhabitants
    were a precious waste of tape. Daario’s GoT character had better be bold and
    eccentric and deliver sexiness in short takes or become sidelined as an honorable
    mention. Perhaps as some here have been hinting , Daario and the Dornishmen
    may not become acquainted with GoT audiences until S4. No doubt we will learn
    of other contenders. What do you think of magister Illyrio ( we’ve only had short
    takes so far ), we’re bound to witness strong performances by Dinklage when those
    two collaborate. BTW, Liam Cunningham was hilarious as a crook in ” The Guard”.

  253. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2012 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    WildSeed,

    Watch it again, I assure you seeing Jaime Lannister get his head bashed in by the awesome Liam Neeson is worth it. Ser Jorah appears right at the end as King Richard the Lionheart.

    You have me convinced a re-watch is needed. Liam Neeson and Alexander Siddig
    along with Eva Green portrayals had me distracted for certain. Another guest here
    mentioned that Coster-Waldau was a regular on ” Battle Star Gallactica” but I
    haven’t looked into it. I’m a “Star Trek” fan so I’m familiar with Siddig starring as
    Dr. Julian Bashir on ” Deep Space Nine” that was one of the best ST shows since
    Kirk sat on the Enterprise ( Voyager had a few great moments too). If you want to
    spit up whatever you’re drinking now look up a move called ” Peter……is Dead’ I
    forget the last name but it stars Peter Dinklage and Lena Headley which closely
    resembles their sibling rivalry on GoT. True fun, it’s a win :D

  254. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 12:11 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    At no point was Nicolaj Coster Waldau on BSG. As a diehard Battlestar fan that I can assure you. Now Jamie Bamber who is one of the lead characters on the series was supposed to have been in the running for Jaime Lannister but lost to Waldau. As much as I like Bamber, I can’t imagine anyone else.

    Oh and if you rewatch Kingdom of Heaven watch the Director’s Cut instead. Superior to the theatrical version in every way possible.

  255. darquemode
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I’m conflicted on Daxos too. So, so different from the book that he almost has to be looked at as a different character. I was never a huge fan of the book version honestly, but I really disliked almost everything they did with the Dany arc last year. I kept being distracted by Dany’s whining that I really could not appreciate anything I guess…

    I saw Nonso Anozie in “Stolen” with Damien Lewis and I liked him quite a bit. I’ve been trying to give myself some separation from last season before I do a complete re-watch to see if my opinions on the 2 arcs I disliked change at all. I will try to give Daxos more of a chance on re-watch.

    As for Illyrio…. I like Roger Allam in almost everything I have seen him, he should excel with more scenes down the road. I’ve always wondered if Illyrio (and Varys) have connections to the Great Bastards. Maybe Illryio is a desendant of Bittersteel or Arys of Daemon Blackfire? How exactly that fits into their conspiracy to seat Targaryens back on the Iron Throne I do not know…..

  256. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I am officially pushing Carlos Bernard for the Red Viper. He is the proper age, the proper look. Just picture Tony from 24 in vengeful, bloodthirsty mode. I can totally see him losing it on you know who in a certain scene. I hated how Tony ended up a villain by the way, he and Michelle were my two favourite character (that and Xander Berkley’s George Mason) and post season 5 the writer’s really screwed the pooch on 24.

    I think Indira Varma would be a great Ellaria Sand.

  257. darquemode
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Agreed on Indira Varma. She is one of my favorites right now along with Marjan Neshat and Lyndsey Marshal.

    I think it’s possible we will not see any of the Dornish until Season 4, maybe Oberyn and Ellaria. I have my list started for all my Season 4 new cast. I’m sure I forgot some but…. Doran, Oberyn and Arianne Martell, all the older Sand Snakes and Ellaria Sand, Aero Hotah, Arys Oakheart, Balon Swann, The Greyjoy Brothers, Gerold Darkstar Dayne, maybe Randall Tarly or Mace Tyrell, but they could turn up Season 3 I guess.

    IF you want my list I can e-mail you it in its current early and tentative stage….
    I won’t post all my gathered fan suggestions or personal suggestions here… I will trim it down to 4 or 5 names per role around casting time next year, but right now I am just gathering ideas and it’s too long a list. Some have like 10 names (5 older and 5 younger actors) as I try to figure out certain character’s ages….

  258. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I totally agree with Joshua Taylor, don’t watch the theatrical release, watch the Director’s cut, sooo much better. I dont think Craster is in the theatrical version and Nicolaij’s scenes are much less.

  259. Kelly
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 5:39 am | Permalink

    NEWS JUST IN!! ;^) The Quoile shoot is happening today! My sister went for her usual run this morning and got turned away at the bottom of the side road down to the quoile. Security guards everywhere.On the radio to each other to make sure she left. They are parked at the cricket club and busing to and from the quoile. So theres no access to the cricket club either, she didnt have her phone with her so she missed getting the cast in their costumes! SO FRICKEN FRUSTRATING!!! THEY ARE SO CLOSE I WANNA GO!!! They are also shooting next week in Tullymore forest and Castlewellan. They have bright pink GoT signs all over county Down! *goes and sits in the corner and cries*

  260. Zack
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    I hated the movie when I saw it in the theater. It was just so dull.

    Then I picked up the Director’s Cut because people said it was amazing, and there was prior evidence to support a Ridley Scott movie being made better with a Director’s Cut.

    They were right. It’s longer, but the characters’ motivations are more fleshed out, and that has a tremendous impact on how exciting I thought it was. Clarity of storytelling suffered in the theatrical version.

    It’s not worth watching the shorter version. But the DC instantly became one of my favorite epic action movies.

  261. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    I just love Ridley Scott and I adore the Crusades. So I watched it an theatres and it became and instant favourite. Bought the DVD a while later. Later on I read about the Directors Cut and the whole fiasco with Ridley wanting to release it to theatres. So I searched for it for years (things like that are sometimes a bit difficult to find in Africa) anyhow got my hands on it a couple of months ago. And yes every point you stated is so valid, makes the theatrical version look like a joke.

    Well weekend time (why is it the big news alway breaks on weekends?) see ya’ll on monday (metaphorically speaking of course)

  262. Macha
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: According to Scott, Ghassan is great but he knows very little English, so the chances of getting him for Doran Martell are slim.

    Oh yeah, you’re right, I forgot about that. I remember checking out his filmography on IMDb recently and wondering why the hell wasn’t he cast in more productions after Kingdom of Heaven, he was superb. Alas, it makes sense now. Such a shame. There are so many talented middle-eastern actors that would be perfect for the Martells, but sadly most of them are well under the radar. Thankfully, we have Nina Gold, and I can’t wait to see her choices.

    Joshua Taylor: Another consideration for Doran would be Gianncarlo Giannini.

    Oh I LOVE his work, however his Italian accent might be a problem because it’s pretty distinctive. But hey, you wouldn’t find me complaining if that were the case.

    Kelly: They are also shooting next week in Tullymore forest and Castlewellan.

    There’s actually a forest called Tullymore? How appropriate! :) Gaaah, I want to see them painted fishies!

  263. Mimsy
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Kelly: The Quoile shoot is happening today!

    How exciting and frustrating for you! At least you’ll get to visit the grounds after season 3 is in the bag and be that much closer to GOT. =)

  264. Wolvesandlions
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Kelly,

    NEW CASTING LOCATION FOUND!

    awesome! we just got back and on our way from the road from downpatrick to killyleagh there is also another got sign to the right. and a horses sign! we followed it down to see a big open feild on the right with a big tent lots of tech and a big nasty man walking out of the trees at the far right corner! there is a forest scene going on there!

  265. Wolvesandlions
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    i hav some photos of it painted if u want. just give me ur email :)

  266. Wolvesandlions
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    me and my dad went to the titanic in belfast today and saw the pain halls! we got lots of photos of stuff including a chair with bones on it! ;) and a lot of stuff saying renly camp from s2 and we went round and saw them making armour shit and then they slammed the door on us! ;)

  267. Kelly
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    Yes lol, but its huge so even if you did get there you’d probably never find them. They will be taking that stuff with them or i steal one lol. The Jetty is the only part thats staying. The local council want the Jetty to stay for the local anglers so I will get down to have a proper look. Can’t wait, might head down tomorrow if the rain stays away.

    Wolvesandlions:
    Kelly,

    NEW CASTING LOCATION FOUND!

    awesome! we just got back and on our way from the road from downpatrick to killyleagh there is also another got sign to the right. and a horses sign! we followed it down to see a big open feild on the right with a big tent lots of tech and a big nasty man walking out of the trees at the far right corner! there is a forest scene going on there!

    I think It was a one day shoot, all trucks etc. at cricket club were gone by 5 this evening. Will try and get down to double check, but think they wrapped it up pretty early. I know where your talking about. Think the horses sign is always there. Maybe they’ll be back monday to shoot there. And yes they are taking no crap lol. I’m surprised you got anywhere near it. Can’t wait to get down to the Quoile to investigate!

  268. Kelly
    Posted July 27, 2012 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Sorry that last post is a bit messed up, first time replying to 2 people at once.

  269. Wolvesandlions
    Posted July 28, 2012 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    Kelly,

    XD yeah i agree. im a fucking ninja! ;) i jumped thru the trees and over the wall so the hill was in my way. climbed the tree on top and haypresto! i can see all! (wasnt much to see :P) any other plces nearby today?

  270. Macha
    Posted July 28, 2012 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    Wolvesandlions,

    Oh I’d love to take a peek if it’s not too much trouble, thanks! You can email me at other_macha at y7mail dot com. You take care climbing those trees now. ;)

  271. Wolvesandlions
    Posted July 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    i just put my sd card in and tho id put them on the pc then wiped the car………..i lost the new stuff. it was only like a tent. i can send u the jetty tho. and brienne/jaime stark bannermen scene etc? sorry bout that! im soo pissed!

  272. Kelly
    Posted July 30, 2012 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    Wolvesandlions,

    If you head out the Newcastle road there are pink GoT signs everywhere, can’t get out myself to investigate but let me know what you find!!

    They are filming today again at the Quoile or maybe its at the other site u found out the killyleagh road. They are again using the cricket club as a base but can’t confirm exactly where they are! As far as I know the sign they had at the Quoile only mentioned the Friday shoot.

  273. Kelly
    Posted July 30, 2012 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    Wolvesandlions,

    Whats your twitter so I can follow you ?

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