Dominic West was almost Mance Rayder
By Winter Is Coming on in Casting, Speculation.

File this one under “The One That Got Away”. Dominic West revealed to the Huffington Post’s Maureen Ryan in a recent interview that he was offered a role in Game of Thrones, but turned it down. The role he was offered was almost certainly Mance Rayder.

On Wednesday, I interviewed West, who played the iconic cop Jimmy McNulty on “The Wire,” about the second season of the period drama “The Hour,” in which he plays newscaster Hector Madden. I asked what other kinds of roles he was interested in, and “Game of Thrones” came up in the conversation.

“I was offered something on ‘Game of Thrones’ and unfortunately, I hadn’t seen it, but my nephew and his father said, ‘Gosh, “Game of Thrones” is the only great show on!’ And I felt terrible, because I’d just turned them down,” West said.

So what part was West offered? He hasn’t read the books, so the name didn’t stick in his head. But he did say that taking the role — a substantial one and similar in stature or importance to Sean Bean’s Season 1 character Ned Stark, according to West — would have involved being “in Reykjavik for six months.” (“Game of Thrones” shoots the scenes set north of the Wall in Iceland.)

West goes on to say that the main reason he had to turn it down was because he didn’t want to spend too much time away from his family.

Winter Is Coming: So close! West would have been a great choice for the role. I respect his decision to not want to be away from his family for a long time, but one wonders if he realizes that the shoot in Iceland was only going to be 6 weeks, not the quoted 6 months. If he turned the role down based on a misunderstanding of the shooting schedule, well, that would suck. Still, this does prove that they are looking for a “name” actor for the role. Hopefully the part is filled soon!


178 Comments

  1. Luke
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    I saw his face and almost jumped for joy, then I saw the word “almost.”

    Son of a bitch!

  2. Carne
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Oh well.

    Now Gudmundur Thorvaldsson please!

  3. darquemode
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Bittersweet news indeed!

    I understand the desire to be close to his family so I cannot fault him on the choice, but…. Aww man!

    He was one of the actors I assumed was out of the running due to schedule or being too big of a name and to hear HBO offered it to him….. Wow, just wow….

  4. The Young Wolf
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    It’s okay, in Nina Gold we trust!

  5. OtherAndrew
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Good, he’s all wrong for the part. Too much swagger.

  6. Joe
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Gods be good! McNulty would’ve been a great Mance. Too bad…

  7. SlimLES
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    UGhghghh what an idiot!!! He is a brilliant actor with terrible business instincts. He was one of the best parts of The Wire, probably the greatest television show ever made, but has consistenly starred in utter crap since, with the exception of BBC’s The Hours.

  8. Superdeluxe
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Damnit Damnit Damnit.

    Positive is HBO wants a name player for Mance. So I don’t think we are shooting to high thinking of Purefoy/Cusick.

  9. Joe
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Towers Rice,

    haha! Perfect reactions from Clay Davis

  10. MrsWun
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    He was my second choice. So what’s James Purefoy doing these days?

  11. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    West is a great actor, he can play something without swagger. It’s a shame about the scheduling and travel aspects. He certainly has the charisma for Mance.

  12. James
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Wait, six months? Maybe he’s misremembering and it was actually six weeks. But that would still make it longer than the actors were actually in Iceland for S2 wouldn’t it?

  13. Juju Budkeson
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    What the fuck did he do?

  14. Superdeluxe
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Starring in a show on FOX

    MrsWun:
    He was my second choice. So what’s James Purefoy doing these days?

  15. H, aka Vee
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    MrsWun:
    He was my second choice. So what’s James Purefoy doing these days?

    Starring on a new FOX show, The Following.

  16. Superdeluxe
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Made a big mistake, he is already regretting it

    Juju Budkeson:
    What the fuck did he do?

  17. darquemode
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    MrsWun,

    Filming a new series on FOX this fall called which he co-stars with Kevin Bacon.

  18. dizzy_34
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    He would have been great. The good thing is I can still hold out hope for someone like Tim Roth with this news.

  19. OtherAndrew
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury, YMMV but the repeated emphasis on how Mance could blend into a room has always been very important to how I’d imagined him. Jon doesn’t notice him at their first meeting, he was in disguise at the Winterfell feast, returns to Winterfell in disguise in Book 5… Dominic West is great at many things but… “subtle” has never been one of them. Plus, he’s physically huge and impossible not to notice with such a distinctive face. I want a restrained actor who can play Mance’s warm and cold personality traits without being in-your-face about it.

  20. darquemode
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I agree.
    I don’t get the “swagger” argument myself, since actors portray the role they are given and of course Mance does have a certain level of charisma (minstrels by their very nature need charisma). Plus, I have seen West (and Purefoy for that matter) be vulnerable and swagger-free in The Hour and Injustice respectively just last year.

  21. Chris Racey
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Someone get in touch with him! There’s still time!!! Oh my word, the thought of Mr West in this role gives me the vapours! Someone find his contact details! ;-)

  22. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Big fan of West, but I can’t say that I’m disappointed that he (likely) passed on the role of Mance. Hopefully he’ll be offered another role in the future, though.

  23. Maxwell James
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Too bad. He’d have been a great Mance. But there are others who can play that role.

  24. Ryan
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Jeez man, that countdown clock just gets me depressed.

  25. Zack
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Awwwwww fuck

  26. mags giantsbabe
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    If it is a substantial role, then I feel more positive about Jon’s upcoming story arc (:

  27. MATTHEW
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Stop with this James Purefoy business! He’s a good-looking, horrible, wooden actor. McNulty would have been a good Mance though.

  28. Mimsy
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Someone dares to turn down Game of Thrones? Well, that’s a first from what I’ve seen. I can see some Mance like qualities in Dominic, but he’s not what I pictured for the role. .. even after checking out some of his work on youtube vids.

    How terrible of me to want to be wow’d by Mance. Mance is a character that I wanted to hate for his Night’s Watch betrayal and toying of Jon, but that I can’t help but love for those same exact reasons. It doesn’t help that his charm, wit and beauty is a total distraction.

  29. tysnow
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    Mr. West, please reconsider taking the role, filming wll only amount to 6-8 weeks, which will leave you plenty of time for family and other projects.

  30. Macha
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Mr. West, I will miss drooling over you in this one.

  31. KS
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Well if they were looking at him for Mance, then perhaps they’ll re-approach with another role later knowing that he might be more likely to join with a different scheduling situation.

    I thought they did their Iceland stuff in only 3 weeks for s2, I can’t imagine it being double that for s3? It seems like an in-and-out, waste no time shooting environment and since Jon is off to the wildings and they have tents, a lot of it can be done on the soundstage in Belfast.

  32. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    I agree, he sucked hard in Camelot and he’s quite overrated so i’m glad he has no chance of being in the show.

  33. Butterbumps
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    Uhhh, did you see Season 2 of Rome? Namely the scenes in Egypt where he’s gone mad and right after Cleopatra’s death? There’s nothing “wooden” about that acting AT ALL. Come to think of it, he isn’t the least bit wooden on that show at all.

  34. MrsWun
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Sorry guys, never saw him suck ass on Camelot. Just kick kick, haul, and well, screw a lot of it on Rome, but hey to each his own. looks like he’s busy anyway.

  35. Butterbumps
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    I mean it’s not like he was working with great material in a movie like Camelot.

  36. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Most likely this happened weeks ago. They probably have already cast Mance at this point, don’t you think? We just don’t know who it is yet.

  37. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    How about Joe Fiennes?….please don’t throw things at me people….I really think he had a terrible script on Camelot and would be great as Mance.

  38. the goat
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Fuck me. Guess they don’t have Jameson in Iceland.

    (nsfw obvs)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx0xulrOsgQ

  39. Macha
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Butterbumps,

    Best Marc Anthony I’ve ever seen, and this is coming from a huge Richard Burton fan.

  40. Cersei... I would
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    That interview makes it seem that there was a miscommunication about the length of the shoot. This, plus his belated recognition of how big a show this is, should make the producers reach out and try again.

  41. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Handmaiden of Dany,

    Joseph Fiennes is a good actor and would be a pretty good Mance, I think. He’s not as imposing or as charismatic as West, so he’s actually more in line with the book descriptions.

  42. Jillian
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    With all due respect to Mr. west, maybe they can go with James Frain or John Hawkes now. I think this casting is my primary purpose for ever posting on this site.

  43. StaceyJ
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Okay, is he dumb to turn down a role on Thrones.. Come on!
    Okay, then not Purefoy.. Ian McShane.. Best choice. He doesn’t have alot of swagger and he’s very good actor and really good in acting..
    I’d love to see him as Mance..

  44. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Thank God. He would’ve been awful.

  45. HouseLark
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Damn. Just watched Appropriate Adult and he was amazing. He would have added to the already high quality of the cast. Now hoping for James Nesbitt

  46. Obsidian
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Both Purefoy and Fiennes are good actors who could do justice to the role. Likewise Rufus Sewell..we’d be lucky to have any of them.

    Sometimes actors take roles in projects that don’t appear to be crap when they see the scripts , or outline….then scripts change , scenes are cut , etc..or the money isn’t put into the production, or they get a poor director.

    ( Speaking of Purefoy.. Solomon Kane is finally getting a NA release in Sept. The director , Michael J .Basset has said he’d love to direct some Thrones, George has seen Kane and the two met for chit chat at Comicon ..I’ll be curious to see if he gets to helm an episode or two down the line )

    ETA: Much as I adore Ian McShane..he’s too old to play Mance.

  47. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    It’s official Dominic West is a moron.

  48. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    At least they tried to get a big actor though and hopefully they’ll continue to look for one.

    I just hope we can get one big actor to join the show this season.

  49. WildSeed
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Zack:
    Awwwwww fuck

    Exacto !

  50. WildSeed
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James:
    Too bad. He’d have been a great Mance. But there are others who can play that role.

    True.

  51. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Jillian:
    With all due respect to Mr. west, maybe they can go with James Frainor John Hawkes now. I think this casting is my primary purpose for ever posting on this site.

    Great choices. You definately have the same mental picture of Mance as I do. John Hawkes looks exactly how Mance should look.

  52. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    I would love to see John Hawks as Mance but he seems to only like appearing in Indie movies at the moment.

  53. darquemode
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    Obsidian,

    I think Rufus Sewell is out of the running sadly (he was one of my personal favorites for the role). A week ago he was cast in an upcoming mini-series called “Restless” that is in pre-production right now with a tentative December 2012 release date.

    http://www.deadline.com/2012/06/hayley-atwell-michelle-dockery-rufus-sewell-are-restless-for-bbc-mini/

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2241676/

  54. MATTHEW
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: Great choices. You definately have the same mental picture of Mance as I do. John Hawkes looks exactly how Mance should look.

    I was not familiar with Hawkes, but after Googling him, I totally agree with you. He looks *extremely* Mancey, as if pulled from my imagination.

    No handsome heart-throbs playing Mance, please!!!! (McNulty is quite handsome but I’d forgive him as Mance, because he would do the role justice)

  55. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    John Hawkes being American would be probably rule him out anyway. They’ve only cast Americans in two special cases- Dinklage and Momoa. There are fewer little people actors, and it sounds like they searched all over the UK/Ireland/Australia for Drogo before finding Momoa in the U.S..

  56. Anon
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    I still have hope that Viggo Mortensen will abandon all of his projects to play Mance!

  57. Wun-Wun
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    I know i’m going a bit off track here, but… how about Hugh Laurie? He’s definitely not imposing to look at & imagine the reaction when he’s revealed! Different from the books, but still wow…

  58. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Is there really a bias against casting American’s for the show ? I am pretty sure Hawks could pull off a British accent if necessary.

  59. the goat
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Dolph Lundgren:
    Thank God. He would’ve been awful.

    Yes, they should definitely hire you instead. Y’know cuz you can smell crime and all.

    Dennis: And then he smells crime again, he’s out busting heads. Then he’s back to the lab for some more full penetration. Smells crime. Back to the lab, full penetration. Crime. Penetration. Crime. Full penetration. Crime. Penetration. And this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends.
    (pause for 7 seconds whilst Dennis seeks comments from the gang)
    Frank: That is brilliant, that is the most brilliant movie I’ve ever heard in my life!
    Charlie: I think the audience is gonna be very uncomfortable seeing Dolph Lundgren’s naked penis going in to this young girl that you’re talking about.
    Dennis: Yeah, just to be clear though, I don’t care either way.

  60. Carne
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think they’re specifically looking for a big name. GoT doesn’t need big names, and I doubt they’d get a lot of extra views even if Dominic West had been cast. I’ll take good acting over how well known they are any day.

  61. Lin Beifunk
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    Ours is the Fury,

    Is there really a bias against casting American’s for the show ? I am pretty sure Hawks could pull off a British accent if necessary.

    It’s a union thing, I think. Nothing against American actors personally.

  62. Dreamlife
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Wow, talk about clueless. Look, he was good in The Wire, but was far from the best thing about that show (that would be Michael Kenneth Williams). I don’t see Dominic West as Mance. I would die with happiness if Viggo Mortenson was picked for Mance.

  63. Aoife
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Geez, don’t actors sorta keep track of what’s been nominated for awards in their line of work? I understand that GoT is not as big in the UK, but you’d think with his previous history with HBO, that he’d at least do a basic web search/confirm the schedule before making his decision. (It really sounds like he wasn’t that keen on the part to begin with and is sorta backpedaling now that he sees that it’s a little bigger than he thought.)

    Since I’ve only seen him in the Devil’s Whore as Cromwell (Ol Mole), I guess I’m not quite as heartbroken that he won’t be Mance. Although that brings to mind someone else…JOHN SIMM, although he may dislike traveling for jobs more than West (he also has small children).

    Let’s just throw out some names of guys that are in the right age range…all the dudes from Life on Mars/Ashes to Ashes (Philip Glenister, Dean Andrews) + Mad Dogs guys + Toby Stephens (hey, he can sing and play guitar per the recent ep of Vexed – LOL). And is there anything keeping Mance as a Whitey McWhite guy? I mean, Thoros shoulda/coulda been a POC….

    Or maybe they should just slap a wig and a fake nose on Jerome Flynn and call it a day.

  64. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    I am not saying they should hire some just because of their high profile status, I’d just like a biggish actor for a couple roles, you know like Purefoy for The Crows eye.

  65. Lana
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a thought… how about Rufus Sewell for Mance? He is one hell of an actor, and he has a certain quiet gravitas which I have always associated with Mance.

  66. WildSeed
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Wun-Wun:
    I know i’m going a bit off track here, but… how about Hugh Laurie? He’s definitely not imposing to look at & imagine the reaction when he’s revealed! Different from the books, but still wow…

    H Laurie does have the voice for the part but I doubt the swagger needed as King Beyond
    the Wall. I’d like to see him included somewhere in GoT cuz I admire his work just not
    as Mance Rayder.

  67. M
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    John Hawkes would be amazing! For god’s sake, he’s so exception worthy. He can sing! He has the right look. He has been very very very bad (in a gajillion things) and very very very good (in Deadwood). He would be such a great Mance. That’s a really good suggestion.

  68. WildSeed
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    Was Joseph Campo a serious contender ?

  69. Coltaine777
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    WIC says WEST is a big name ?. No he isn’t , but he would’ve been a fantastic Mance !!! …I’ll take John Hawkes or Rufus Sewell for the role though…

  70. Ash
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t even find out about the show before turning it down or find out how long shoot was, what an arragont cock!

  71. MATTHEW
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    I know it’s never going to happen, but let me say for the record that Viggo Mortensen would be an awful choice. He’s a skilled actor, but he’s an utterly beautiful, dreamy-looking man and is total leading-man material, as opposed to the subtle average dude-ness, which is an important part of Mance’s character.

    Plus why would Mortensen want to do epic fantasy (on TV, no less) after playing the swashbuckling hero of the most famous epic fantasy of all time. It would be stupid for HBO to cast him and stupid of him to take the roll.

    If we’re going to daydream about huge Hollywood actors (Americans, no less) playing Mance Rayder, how about someone not known for his smoldering good looks, someone like Tom Hanks or Sean Penn or Jeremy Renner or I could go on and on and on.

    I would make a handsome-exception for Michael Fassbender. He would make an amazing Mance or Oberyn, although he doesn’t really look the part of either.

  72. darquemode
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    I think Hawkes would nail the role, but he has such a striking look he is not right for Mance either really (and that’s ignoring the fact he’s American). I think he stands out as much as some of the actors like West and Purefoy that are too “handsome” for some people. He’s such a brilliant actor though I would not care and frankly I don’t think appearance is that important to the role of Mance.

    Mance is not small but not large in stature and has a plain face. To me that seems to fit just about anyone as long as they are not huge (which in Westeros is more like over 6′-6″ – not over 6’0″ tall), and not either strikingly beautiful or strikingly unique looking.

    The one thing I think is important is a quiet confidence and charisma – not swagger as some say, but I think Mance needs to have that inner strength and calmness that people are drawn to. An ability to not stand out in a crowd does not mean he is unattractive or uncharasmatic, it just means that Mance is aware and skilled enough to not draw attention to himself.

  73. The mighty hodor
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    So I guess Dominic west is now off the rayder! OH SNAP!

  74. ghost
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    You know you are successful when you can turn down an opportunity as great as the one he was presented.

  75. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Someone is gonna call himself a fucking idiot when season 3 airs.

  76. YvyB
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Ash:
    Didn’t even find out about the show before turning it down or find out how long shoot was, what an arragont cock!

    Ha ha ha ! Favorite response

  77. Hunter
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    For whatever reason (I know Dornish are supposed to be middle eastern-ish) I’ve always pictured Jason Isaacs as Oberyn. Dudes face just popped up while reading and stuck.

    Yes, Fassbender would be dream casting for Mance, but really the dude is dream casting for any part. That Fassbender is so hot right now.

    John Hawkes would murder this role. I’d honestly take him over anyone else. He’s tailor made for it.

  78. Queensmoot
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    So sad! I love The Wire and I loved West as McNulty. I actually had a huge crush on him when the first season aired. He wasn’t the best thing on the show, but the scene where he drinks like 18 shots of Jameson, tries to drive home and hits the same freeway column twice was truly amazing.

    Ugh, I just made myself sad.

  79. Anon
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW: I know it’s never going to happen, but let me say for the record that Viggo Mortensen would be an awful choice. He’s a skilled actor, but he’s an utterly beautiful, dreamy-looking man and is total leading-man material, as opposed to the subtle average dude-ness, which is an important part of Mance’s character.

    Plus why would Mortensen want to do epic fantasy (on TV, no less) after playing the swashbuckling hero of the most famous epic fantasy of all time. It would be stupid for HBO to cast him and stupid of him to take the roll.

    Yeah, couldn’t really imagine a member of the Fellowship in GoT…

    I’d say that in general, being a “skilled actor” is more important than how you look, but that’s just me. Anyway, it’s extremely unlikely that HBO’s Mance will not be good looking, but it probably won’t matter, as his imdb page indicates he will probs be unavailable. :-(

  80. YvyB
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    I would make a handsome-exception for Michael Fassbender.

    Yes please .

  81. Perkins
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    He said his role would have been similar to Sean beans? Wouldn’t mances be more important in the series? He will last more seasons…? I think obryne Is on the Sean bean path, but shooting says elsewhere?

  82. DavidBC
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    This is such a bummer…

    So who is on the Mance shortlist now??
    Henry Ian Cusick??

  83. DavidBC
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Craig Parkinson from Misfits(UK) would make an awesome Mance…

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m65fj2k0vT1qduokt.jpg

  84. andrea
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    oh Jimmy, sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

  85. Chickenduck
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    I’d love to see Craig Parkinson be someone in the series – he’s great! Hadn’t thought of him until you posted that photo.

    He could make a great Vargo.

  86. DavidBC
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    He actually would be better as Vargo.

  87. Dolph Lundgren
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 7:59 pm | Permalink

    the goat: Yes, they should definitely hire you instead. Y’know cuz you can smell crime and all.

    Dennis: And then he smells crime again, he’s out busting heads. Then he’s back to the lab for some more full penetration. Smells crime. Back to the lab, full penetration. Crime. Penetration. Crime. Full penetration. Crime. Penetration. And this goes on and on and back and forth for 90 or so minutes until the movie just sort of ends.
    (pause for 7 seconds whilst Dennis seeks comments from the gang)
    Frank: That is brilliant, that is the most brilliant movie I’ve ever heard in my life!
    Charlie: I think the audience is gonna be very uncomfortable seeing Dolph Lundgren’s naked penis going in to this young girl that you’re talking about.
    Dennis: Yeah, just to be clear though, I don’t care either way.

    I’m the most underrated actor of all time. It’s my spiky hair and icy cold demeanor.

    CRIME STINKS! The smell of penetration…

  88. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    DavidBC,

    I love that guy. Presumably too late to be in S3, but there’s always more scumbag characters to be found in future seasons.

  89. Carne
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    DavidBC,

    Despite being too pretty for the role, I was secretly hoping Robert Sheehan would end up as Ramsay :P

  90. Wes
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    I think he’s just doesn’t want (or need) to be involved in a semi cheesy genre drama. A good long term choice. I feel bad for his colleague Aiden Gillen who has been made a fool of as an actor and may never get another decent role.

  91. sherry
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Jason Isaacs, Hugh Laurie, or Rufus Sewell would be great possiblilities to play Mance!

  92. Morgan King
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Wes,

    You obviously haven’t seen Centurion.

  93. sunspear
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed: H Laurie does have the voice for the part but I doubt the swagger needed as King Beyond
    the Wall. I’d like to see him included somewhere in GoT cuz I admire his work just not
    as Mance Rayder.

    Clearly you have never seen an episode of House.

    Hugh Laurie might lack the muscle to play Mance, but since he’s going to be in a heavy coat all the time anyway, they can probably make it work.

  94. Baramos
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Would have been great to see ol’ McNulty as Mance but on the other hand, he seemed pretty ambivalent about the role from the get-go and seeing as how it would require him to be on the show for at least 4 seasons, if not more, it’s maybe just as well that someone a little less famous get the role.

  95. Baramos
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Wes,

    I don’t think that would be it, he was in both Centurion (as someone else pointed out), a fairly cheesy film, and probably the cheesiest film of the past five years, Punisher: War Zone as the over-the-top villain Jigsaw.

  96. Baramos
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    ghost,

    Yeah, I know people look at this like a missed opportunity or something, but for an actor the paycheck often matters as well, and also The Hour is pretty critically acclaimed as well, even if it’s not as epic as Game of Thrones. If the paycheck they were offering him wasn’t any better than the one for The Hour and he thought it would involve too much time away from his family in a foreign country, that also factors into things.

  97. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Wes,

    ???

  98. Danielle
    Posted August 3, 2012 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    The only thing I’ve ever seen West in was 300 and he was so hammy I just couldn’t watch his scenes so this doesn’t bother me. My heart is still hoping for Tim Roth or Henry Ian Cusick (I know, could they be more different) but Joseph Fiennes would not be bad. Geez, I just realized I’ve picked Mr. Orange, Jesus & Martin Luther as my choices for Mance….

  99. Alex Also
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Rufus Sewell is far too good-looking to be Mance. No-one has ever been in a room with him and not noticed him.

  100. patchy face
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    sunspear,

    Hugh Laurie – please!!!

  101. Kevin
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    LOL, are you serious? Too much swagger for a guy who does what Mance does? He is a king beyond the wall and is a bard too?
    OtherAndrew,

  102. Drfunk
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 2:22 am | Permalink

    I think some of you are putting too much emphasis on “he’s gotta look like average joe” gate. This show took enough liberties as it is, the fact that Jon doesn’t see him as Mance the first time they meet is a plot point but not what makes Mance critical. The audience only needs to believe seeing someone wildly charismatic who can be brutal on a moment’s notice to keep all these wildlings in check. I’d rather they focus on his ability to be imposing (in a mysterious sort of way) than how hot he looks. The fact that shooting has already begun and we haven’t heard squat from HBO leads me to Jon’s arc is being delayed till season 4 (or significantly lower screen time). They would have cast Mance by now already if he was going to be pivotal for S3.

  103. Lin Beifunk
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 2:54 am | Permalink

    Drfunk,

    Nah, I think they’re just hiding stuff from us like they did with the ComicCon casting announcements.

  104. Dave Brownell
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 2:56 am | Permalink

    Good. I’ve honestly never really liked him in any of his roles… Anyones else could be better for the part, like Faramir from LotR :O:O He’s honestly who i always pictured wearing a black cape

  105. Dave Brownell
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 2:58 am | Permalink

    Drfunk,

    They probably won’t shoot the winter scene until the fall anywho

  106. Jill
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 3:02 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Yeah, it’s mostly a weird combination of my overall perception of Mance from the book (he causes unease, not entirely trustworthy, but you can’t help but like him and as a result want Jon to be liked by him) and the roles I’ve seen both these actors play. Either one would kill it, as they do everything else. Glad someone else doesn’t see Mance as a James Purefoy type (and this comes from someone who absolutely adores Purefoy, I just want him as an iron born). However, I could be completely content with Hugh Laurie, but I wonder that he might not be content with music and shorter-term gigs after such a long stint in a career-defining role. Maybe some relaxation time is in order to prevent people from seeing him as House in his next role? If not, I could absolutely get on board with him as Mance,

  107. loco73
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 3:12 am | Permalink

    Damn it! Bloody hell!

    That was close…oh I really would have enjoyed having him in the cast. Besides, he did a great job working with Neil Marhsall in “Centurion”, if you watch the behind the scenes stuff, he had a lot of fun…and the shooting of that movie was quite brutal at times and Mr. West aquitted himself admirably…so he’s no pussy when it comes to hard work…

    Well we are getting Tobias Menzies and he is a great actor…Still it would have been cool to see McNulty re-united with Councilman Carcetti…aka our own Littlefinger…

  108. Direhound
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 3:17 am | Permalink

    Would it work to have a different former doctor David Tennant in GoT-verse? i could see him as patchface or moonboy but it might be a bit distracting in other major roles. I’ve been catching up on Doctor Who.

    I still like the idea of casting a singer/actor as Mance a la Nick Cave or David Bowie.

  109. Segovax
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 4:25 am | Permalink

    What the f*** did I do?

  110. caoimay
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 4:40 am | Permalink

    im so upset! i got really excited when i saw his name, he would have been perfect! it sounds like he regrets it though and mance still hasn’t been cast so….

  111. caoimay
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 4:51 am | Permalink

    I think he regrets saying no! they should ask him again

  112. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 6:16 am | Permalink

    Wes,

    Wow, this is as close minded as i’ve ever seen .

  113. HouseLark
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    Ours is the Fury,

    Is there really a bias against casting American’s for the show ? I am pretty sure Hawks could pull off a British accent if necessary.

    The problems with US actors are cost and convenience. Higher salaries in the US will be an issue and if the part involves filming in locations across Europe then it’s just more red tape to sort out trying to get work permits for each country. Why create more hassle?

    Then there’s the accent issue. A good British accent is difficult to pull off, especially if it’s a specific regional accent and not just “generic upper-middle class Brit” which is about the only UK accent I’ve heard a US actor pull off convincingly.

  114. YvyB
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Here here HouseLark !
    It drives me mad that not many people can see the Northern Westeros have Northern English accents … and it’s even thicker beyond the wall … Ygritte’s was very heavy. (Though I would of liked Scottish beyond the wall but hey ho!)
    So it’s not simply an English accent that is required for Mance .. although if he was brought up at the wall he would of been used to various accents .. his time beyond would have him influenced by heavy Northern accents again.

  115. Adam
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Still holding out for James Purefoy, who I think would be perfect for the role, but I’m recognizing this probably isn’t going to happen. From the sounds of it they’ve reached out to their big name actors, got some no’s, and are still casting the character.

    As for Dominic West, but whenever I see that man I’ll always see Jimmy McNulty. Doesn’t matter how good a Mance he would have played :P

  116. gisizzlah
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    OMG!!! wow he would’ve been awesome… and a sort of 300 reunion too (though lena would not have been in a scene with him) he totally missed out…

  117. caravaggio
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Shame! I wonder what kind of Mance he would have been. Oh well.

  118. Rygar
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    Wow, Merry Brandybuck looks old now and he obviously no longer has the ability to make smart decisions :)

  119. Danielle
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    That guy didn’t play Merry. You are thinking of Dominic Monaghan

  120. MATTHEW
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Danielle: Rygar, That guy didn’t play Merry. You are thinking of Dominic Monaghan

    LOL when I saw the name Dominic in the context of a British actor the little hobbit was my first thought as well. Then I saw the picture and then realized it was that guy, whom I don’t think of as “Dominic West.” To me, he’s just “McNulty” the same way Jon Heder is “Napoleon Dynamite”.

  121. snapbackd
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Guys, I don’t think you should take this too seriously. Yea the article mentioned McNulty turned down the role but to be completely honest it doesn’t seem like he ever really considered it and for someone who didn’t even know for how long he was required on his contract to be working it all just seems pretty unprofessional and maybe even a somewhat casual offer. I’d say Dom is talking himself up here somewhat as well.

    This means no offense to Dominic West at all, it’s just that he’s sort of a big name star now and just because someone threw Game of Thrones at him once doesn’t really mean we *almost* had him.

    Would’ve been awesome though, he’s a fav of mine. I’d prefer someone slightly older though.

  122. Adam
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Actually, on second thought, if they do give McNulty a role in Game of Thrones one day, I hope it’s someone who gets to interact with Littlefinger.

  123. NewJeffCT
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Hunter:
    For whatever reason (I know Dornish are supposed to be middle eastern-ish) I’ve always pictured Jason Isaacs as Oberyn. Dudes face just popped up while reading and stuck.

    Yes, Fassbender would be dream casting for Mance, but really the dude is dream casting for any part. That Fassbender is so hot right now.

    John Hawkes would murder this role. I’d honestly take him over anyone else. He’s tailor made for it.

    I’ve always pictured Antonio Banderas as The Red Viper, though I realize it might be tough getting an American actor for the role. Maybe somebody from Spain? However, I think they could have a big name actor for the role, since it’s essentially a flashy cameo.

    I’ve pictured Jason Isaacs as Randyll Tarly, based on his roles in The Patriot & the Harry Potter movies. I can see him talking down to a certain someone liked he talked down to Harry & Ron.

  124. Gatehouse Ami
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Damnit, McNulty. There you go giving a fuck when it’s not your turn to give a fuck. Be my Red Viper.

  125. MATTHEW
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    NewJeffCT: I’ve always pictured Antonio Banderas as The Red Viper, though I realize it might be tough getting an American actor for the role. Maybe somebody from Spain? However, I think they could have a big name actor for the role, since it’s essentially a flashy cameo.I’ve pictured Jason Isaacs as Randyll Tarly, based on his roles in The Patriot & the Harry Potter movies. I can see him talking down to a certain someone liked he talked down to Harry & Ron.

    I think Randyll Tarley is supposed to be R. Lee Ermey

  126. Klavonivs
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Not saying I don’t like him, but I’m sort of glad he’s not playing Mance as I and a lot of others picture Mance as a more older man than Mr. West is. I’m going to assume that if HBO was looking at him for Mance, then I would imagine the person they get for the role will be around the same age. With that said there are many other roles he can do, smaller ones if he’s concerned with leaving his family for a while.

  127. Elaine
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Oh no, I wish I hadn’t read this!! Such a near miss is heartbreaking!!!

    Fingers crossed they offer him another role–any other role–sometime in the future now that he’s seen the error of his ways!

  128. Violentos
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    A little odd that you would turn down something you didn’t even know about, no? I mean… at least wikipedia that stuff! Then once you learn how immensely popular it is in ratings and book sales, watch an episode or two. This is not a lengthy process of research here, we’re talking about 5 minutes of wikipedia followed by optional viewing time.

  129. McTrigger
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    NewJeffCT,

    … Banderas IS Spanish, you clod.

  130. jaa
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad he turned them down.

  131. Trappingsofpower
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Cast Sly Stallone.

  132. Rygar
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    I was joking…

    Danielle,

  133. Anne
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    James Purefoy as Mance Rayder=best choice imo.

  134. Rygar
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    I am going to keep pushing John Cusak as Mance. If Dinklage can pull off the accent, I’m sure JC could too.

  135. queen of the hill
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Purefoy will ultimately be cast as Mance

  136. Biscotti
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    dinklages accent is the generic upper class one people talked about though, and especially in season 1 there have been times where he its a bit cringeworthy.
    plus the union issue.
    they have enough actors to choose from within the eu.

  137. Strongboar
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Frustrating news, I like this guy.
    Maybe some other year as … well, in fact no idea who else he could play. There won’t many big roles left after Mance is cast, and I can’t imagine him as a Greyjoy.

  138. YvyB
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    I am going to keep pushing John Cusak as Mance.If Dinklage can pull off the accent, I’m sure JC could too.

    Peter does a very good posh gentry English accent which befits his Southern Lannister roots… Mance will have to be Northern like Ygritte and Ned.

  139. Rygar
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Right, my point being that a good actor should be able to pull off an accent, especially with training.

    Its been a while since I read the books, but was Mance from the North (the Stark North) prior to joining the Black? I don’t seem to recall.

    YvyB,

  140. Biscotti
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    mance was a wildling child taken by the nights watch and raised.
    i’d like more on this backstory- was he an orphan? how often does this happen? at what age was he taken?

    Rygar:
    Right, my point being that a good actor should be able to pull off an accent, especially with training.

    Its been a while since I read the books, but was Mance from the North (the Stark North) prior to joining the Black?I don’t seem to recall.

    YvyB,

  141. cib
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    they should take Liam Neeson or James Purefoy !

  142. Chickenduck
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    YvyB:
    Here here HouseLark !
    It drives me mad that not many people can see the Northern Westeros have Northern English accents … and it’s even thicker beyond the wall … Ygritte’s was very heavy. (Though I would of liked Scottish beyond the wall but hey ho!)
    So it’s not simply an English accent that is required for Mance .. although if he was brought up at the wall he would of been used to various accents .. his time beyond would have him influenced by heavy Northern accents again.

    It’s true that a lot of Americans wouldn’t be able to pick different regional England accents beyond “generic upper class” and “generic working class”, but part of that is that they simply don’t hear them that often, either in real life or on TV.

    To be fair, a lot of Brits would have a tough time saying exactly where in the US certain distinctive accents come from (ie it’s obvious to Americans that Peter Griffin is stereotypically working class Boston/Rhode Island area, but Brits might just think he sounds “American”). A lot of Brits also wouldn’t pick Canadians from Americans from the accent.

    Australians get annoyed that most outsiders can’t tell us apart from New Zealanders – to us the differences are obvious, but to people from elsewhere we sound pretty similar apparently.

    IN OTHER NEWS THOUGH – I always thought it’d be kind of cool to have a fantasy setting where they didn’t have British accents… Just for something different. E.g. the “Dornish Drawl” described by GRRM could be fun if it was like they were from Alabama :) But that would really clash with audience expectations of what “sounds like fantasy”.

  143. Chickenduck
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    (For what it’s worth, in my head, the Dornish sounded kind of like they were from Bristol. Sort of like Gareth on The Office UK).

  144. Chickenduck
    Posted August 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Right, my point being that a good actor should be able to pull off an accent, especially with training.

    YvyB,

    Some can, but a lot of them can’t… There are plenty of people with great acting chops who battle with accents.

  145. Crow's Eye
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Sorry I haven’t read all the comments, but has anyone mentioned West for Euron Greyjoy? Personally, I’ve always thought he was much better for that role.

  146. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    cib,

    I don’t mean to be rude but, can you people not read the 1000 times it’s been said that Purefoy is starring in another show with Kevin Bacon which it’s filmed in the same period as GOT ?

  147. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    That doesn’t make any sense, America was never medieval and plus it would sound really stupid with american accents . Not to mention that GRRM based the series on the War of the Roses which was in Great Britain .

  148. YvyB
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 4:39 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Thanks for your response you said it way better than I could of ! But thanks to time zones I was alsleep :D
    Anyhoo, Dornish (Cornish in my head) is like Hagrid :)

  149. YvyB
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 4:44 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    I agree an actor good with accents should be able to pull if off.

  150. darquemode
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    It seems like Dominic West West must have turned down the role more than a week ago and maybe two. I found an article stating that he will be starring in the musical “My Fair Lady at The Crucible Theatre in Sheffield. The role will be West’s first singing role and the musical is expected to run through December.

    So I guess that rules out any subterfuge on his part and any chance of him rethinking the role in Game of Thrones. Not to mention means that Mo Ryan’s article was published after West had already signed on as part of My Fair Lady’s cast.

    Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/dominic-west-my-fair-lady_n_1689814.html

  151. WildSeed
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck: It’s true that a lot of Americans wouldn’t be able to pick different regional England accents beyond “generic upper class” and “generic working class”, but part of that is that they simply don’t hear them that often, either in real life or on TV.

    To be fair, a lot of Brits would have a tough time saying exactly where in the US certain distinctive accents come from (ie it’s obvious to Americans that Peter Griffin is stereotypically working class Boston/Rhode Island area, but Brits might just think he sounds “American”).A lot of Brits also wouldn’t pick Canadians from Americans from the accent.

    Australians get annoyed that most outsiders can’t tell us apart from New Zealanders – to us the differences are obvious, but to people from elsewhere we sound pretty similar apparently.

    IN OTHER NEWS THOUGH – I always thought it’d be kind of cool to have a fantasy setting where they didn’t have British accents…Just for something different.E.g. the “Dornish Drawl” described by GRRM could be fun if it was like they were from Alabama :)But that would really clash with audience expectations of what “sounds like fantasy”.

    Your assertions are very astute and would make for a thread about the story of
    English. Every region has it’s own dialect and colloquialism. I lived for a time
    in the southern US coast and had a difficult time understanding the locals and
    still do. In every country there seems a spoken difference in what has been labeled
    a derivative language ( from it’s origins of Latin, Spainish, English, German, French
    etc). While on holiday in Germany ( Bacharach) I encountered 2 natives visiting
    families or inlaws nearby and I shared a lovely dinner. One recited a well known
    poem while we all listened, 1 the other German guest responded with the comment
    that he barely understood a word of it (They were from opposite parts of the country).
    We all had a big laugh and talked more over more wine. Don’t get me started
    about France, the dialects are easily measured though. The transported language
    in other countries like Haiti or Mexico is barely recognizable as is the US.
    If GRRM would consider the Dornish as a southern US drawl it would be more
    than amusing but also betray the perception that there is an African/Mediterran
    -ean factor there.

  152. Chickenduck
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu:
    Chickenduck,

    That doesn’t make any sense, America was never medieval and plus it would sound really stupid with american accents . Not to mention that GRRM based the series on the War of the Roses which was in Great Britain .

    The English spoken in medieval England didn’t sound like the English do today. In fact, some varieties of US English are much closer to Shakespearean-era English than modern British English is.

    But that isn’t really the point.

    My actual point was what you proved by your answer – the average audience member has an expectation that fantasy should be done in an English accent, for two reasons:

    a) America (or New Zealand, or Australia, or Canada etc.) didn’t have medieval kings and general sword-waving, whereas England did.
    b) fantasy is always done in a British accent. Sometimes in a “British accent”.

    However, as I’ve already noted, modern British English doesn’t sound like medieval varieties of English!

    BUT audience psychology places limits on what you can do with accents.

    On a similar topic, does anyone else find it odd that the siblings Tyrion, Cersei and Jaime all have different accents in the show? Once you hear it, you can’t un-hear it! :P Not that I’m complaining, mind.

  153. YvyB
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck:

    On a similar topic, does anyone else find it odd that the siblings Tyrion, Cersei and Jaime all have different accents in the show?Once you hear it, you can’t un-hear it! :PNot that I’m complaining, mind.

    Hi , they all do a generic “posh” English accent so to my ear that’s OK.
    I struggled with Davos a bit … but he seems to have settled now. One of the smaller actors .. I think it was Rickard Karstack seemed to be Scotish in one episode and Yorkshire in the next .. but I’m probably being really nitpicky :\

  154. darquemode
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck:
    On a similar topic, does anyone else find it odd that the siblings Tyrion, Cersei and Jaime all have different accents in the show?Once you hear it, you can’t un-hear it! :PNot that I’m complaining, mind.

    Ha!
    I did notice it and I tried to come up with reasons that 3 siblings who grew up mostly in the same location of King’s Landing would have different accents. I guess Cersei and Jaime would have grown up at Casterly Rock and King’s Landing since Tywin was the Hand, but basically I just accepted Tyrion’s as an affectation of his desire to be worldly, grande or mocking and blamed Cersei’s on Lena’s acting. XD

    Then again the Stark kids (especially Madden) have different accents too don’t they?
    I don’t pretend to have an ear tuned for descerning UK regional accents though….

  155. YvyB
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    My take on the Stark kids is this … the younger ones who are little Lords and Ladies are influenced by their mentors… however the older Stark boys are more influenced outside the protective bubble? I could be talking total rubbish and making excuses for the fact they can’t all do the same accent ! Ha ha

    Also Richard is Scottish so he is putting on a very convincing Northern English accent.

  156. darquemode
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    There definitely seems to be more Scotish accents in the North and Winterfell I agree…

    I think that for many of the actors D&D just have them speak however they are most comfortable and forget about attempting a regional dialect that may take away from their performance.

  157. YvyB
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I must admit it is a mini obsession of mine … but possibly because I am from the North of England :) I will have to get back to you after we have our Mance as to whether I approve of his accent !! As a side note Craster did a Geordie accent which is what I am. Which makes me think Robson Green would play a good Mance. Being born spitting distance from “the wall” he was made for the part :D

  158. darquemode
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    I really NEVER considered Robson Green for Mance until recently when I saw him hosting some extreme fishing TV series. I then started a re-watch of Wire in the Blood (one of my all-time favorite series) . Around the same time more and more of the fan favorite picks for Mance started becoming unavailable…

    Green does have a lot of the traits I associate with Mance, can sing, and is seemingly available. Not what I have been picturing at all, but I think he could work and be quite good in the end.

    Of course I think there are still a lot of actors that could do well in the role, but it is hard to narrow the field down.

    It is so frustrating (mostly in a good way) that the 2 roles I was most interested in seeing cast (Daario and Mance) are as far as we know still uncast! XD

    Speaking of casting…. I wonder if the Kettleblacks will make it into this or next season in some form. I know some think they will be left out and others think they will be combined into one or two brothers….

    I was watching The Hollow Crown and was thinking if you the “hook nose” trait, I think Alun Armstrong could be Oswell with his son Joe Armstrong as Osmund. Then toss in the Phelps twins from Harry Potter as Osfryd and Osney and we have 3 similar looking brothers and their dad! XD

  159. YvyB
    Posted August 5, 2012 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Ha ha ha I ‘m so with ya! If only we ruled the world … Mur roo ha ha ha ha.

  160. nightwolf
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Jason Isaacs should be Mance

  161. KatieJo
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 1:03 am | Permalink

    Handmaiden of Dany,

    Ours is the Fury,

    I’ve been fancasting Joe Fiennes for a while, he’d be perfect for Mance. He’s got charisma to spare, and he can actually come off as a “regular Joe” until he has to stand out. He’s who I picture when I read the books.

  162. Sarah
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    I like the idea of Ferdinand Kingsley in this role, if you watch this trailer he would seem like a good fit. Ok yes he is on the young side but on the plus he can blend in, and he can sing too. (he is the one you see first btw)

  163. phaser
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 5:50 am | Permalink

    the goat,

    hahahahaha… great!

  164. J Winter
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Doesn’t this make it likely though that they’d keep offering him roles?

  165. Elena
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    Dominic, you idiot.

  166. Tereeza777
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    What about Eric Bana as Mance Rayder? He’s Australian, about 6’2″, and can really swing a sword. He was great as “Hector” in “Troy”. Also great in “Munich”. He has a strong sensitive side and always seems to play the kind of leader that men want to follow into battle.

  167. tysnow
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    West must have really wanted to stay home with his family for the immediate future, perhaps he has been so busy the last couple of years, he neglected the most important aspect of his life.

  168. tysnow
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    We ccan forget about Viggo now, IMDB recently posted two films he is in pre-production on, and then Eastern Promises Deux follows.
    Nina better work fast, as the well known names are falling away. Purefoy, Isaacs and Hugh have signed onto projects, Sewell is still available.

  169. tysnow
    Posted August 6, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    For Cusik lovers, his slate is filling up, two projects now. So it is looking more and more like a somewhat known Brit will be cast.
    My belief for a well known actor lies in Red Viper, it is a one season guest spot, a very juicy role that a BIG name would sign on for. HBO should pick soneone that will bring their huge fanbase to the show, while also nailing the part.

  170. The Sand Snake
    Posted August 10, 2012 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    After some deliberation, I think Bill Nighy would be a good Mance Rayder. He’s described as tall and lean, not particularly attractive and long mostly gray hair. Sounds like Bill Nighy to me!
    Plus we already know he’s a pretty awesome actor, very likeable in his roles whether he plays a villain or not. Plus he can grasp the “singer” side of Mance too I’m sure. He plays a very different character in Love Actuallly than he usually goes for, and still did a really good job

  171. Shirley
    Posted August 10, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Joe,

    Superdeluxe:
    Damnit Damnit Damnit.

    Positive is HBO wants a name player for Mance.So I don’t think we are shooting to high thinking of Purefoy/Cusick.

    Wouldn’t “shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT” be better, I so love West in The Wire, what a show. I haven’t seen The hours yet, but plan on seeing it. He was good in 300 and Centurion also. He would have so great as Mance.

  172. Pau Captain Soriano
    Posted August 12, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    NewJeffCT: I’ve always pictured Antonio Banderas as The Red Viper, though I realize it might be tough getting an American actor for the role.Maybe somebody from Spain?

    Mmmm Antonio Banderas is not american, he is from Malaga, Spain :P

  173. Prettysilentone
    Posted September 9, 2012 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    StaceyJ,

    I had Ian Mc Shane as my second choice behind west and people had argued with me that he would have been too old, now we see that Hinds has been cast and it was confirmed that RR Martin had meant for Mance to be older. With this casting choice of Hinds I am convinced Ian Mc Shane would have had the same effect but would have been a better choice in my opinion.

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