Ciarán Hinds is Mance!
By Hear Me Roar on in Casting, News.

James Hibberd of Entertainment Weekly has just revealed exclusively that the role of Mance Rayder has finally been cast – with none other than Ciarán Hinds!

You will of course know him best from Rome, where he played Julius Caesar. After Tobias Menzes (as Edmure), this is the second Rome alumnus joining the cast.

Hear Me Roar: Wow, that one got me excited! When other candidates and actors we speculated about definitely dropped out, I felt bad, but HBO managed to get a big name for the role in the end, and one that is, for my money, a great fit.


484 Comments

  1. NPO
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Just need Mark Anthony to complete the set!

  2. Andrew
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    FinaLly! Great news. Rome had a lot of talent on it, and now we don’t have to speculate about Purefoy anymore :P

  3. J
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:26 am | Permalink

    Yes! Awesome!

  4. Michelle
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Am I the only one who pictured Mance younger? I blame those fan castings with James Purefoy! I’m sure Ciaran will be brilliant.

    Mance Rayder is Aberforth Dumbledore, everyone. Let that sink in.

  5. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Great actor, but I just can’t see him as Mance :/ A bit too old in my opinion.

    I just hope they have asked him to grow a beard, like he’s looking here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/content/images/2007/03/22/ciaran396_396x222.jpg

  6. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    He’s not totally what I pictured, but he’s a brilliant actor. I’m excited to see what he does with this role, this should be great! :D

  7. Perkins
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    great news! 226 on the countdown… ugh.

  8. Petearys
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Wow, this is out of left field for sure but completely awesome, Hinds is a big name, and great actor for sure. Never pictured Mance quite as old as him tho, does anyone think they’ll make him slim down a little to get the more lean “Mance” look? I know from the books, and especially the events in ADwD, he surely wasn’t a boy, but not an older guy either I feel. Any thoughts?

  9. The Greatsteve
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Caesar as Mance, eh? Not who I immediately pictured in the role but I’m looking forward to seeing how he brings the role to life.

  10. paylor
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Yes, I pictured Mance younger as well, but Ciaran Hinds is a fantastic actor, so I’m not complaining too much.

  11. Maxwell James
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    That rocks.

  12. Carol
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    *faints*

  13. The Kingshaver
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    I’m pretty pleased with that. So much so that I can get over the misfire on casting Dominic West!

  14. Ceci
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Michelle,

    I pictured younger too…

  15. Hear Me Roar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    I don’t mind the age, despite everything … Hinds has the charisma that always made Mance older in my mind.

  16. Steve Hugh Westenra
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    OMG YES.

  17. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Michelle,

    You’re not the only one. I definitely saw Mance as more of a Joe Fiennes, Dominic West type. That being said, Ciarán Hinds is fantastic. I’m sure his version of Mance, while different from what I pictured, is going to be great.

  18. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Julius Caesar is Mance Rayder!

  19. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Oh well for those of us who wanted Fassbender , they did both play the same part once in Jane Eyre lol.

  20. Harry The Heir
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Not how I pictured, pretty disapointed tbh :(

  21. DaveB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Michelle,

    I pictured him younger as well. Regardless, this is awesome news. The guy’s a heavyweight.

  22. Bubbalouey
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Too old and too serious.. Not nance at all

  23. Alex Dubrovsky
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Dream casting, really.

    The casting for this show never ceases to amaze me.

  24. MetalgoddessAMB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    I also thought, even through my excitement, ” isn’t he a little old?” But I love Ciarán Hinds, and I am sure he is going to bring it as Mance Rayder! this is such a coup, he’s a BIG name in film (even if you don’t really know his name, everyone knows him from his roles!)

  25. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Best casting get of the season, Hinds is an absolutely terrific actor and wonderful choice for Mance, he’s the right age, and will be perfect as the jovial but quietly menacing Mance. His Julius Caesar was the best thing about the first season of Rome, and he’s been great in everything I’ve seen him in since. This really excites me and makes up for the loss of Dominic West. Now just give me recognizable faces for Vargo and Daario, and include Strong Belwas, then you’ll have the best season of GoT yet

  26. Julie
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Can we have Purefoy as the Red Viper now? ;)

  27. Maester Tcost
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Oh, WOW!!!!

    My god, how wonderful.

  28. angel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    WOW, this is amazing! He’s brilliant and strong enough to go toe-to-toe.
    Very happy with this choice!

  29. Howland Reed
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    YES! He is amazing.

  30. The Red Avenger
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    If he was around when Mormont was around then stands to reason he would be similar age. Ecstatic with this casting.

  31. Cláudia
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    I’m quite pleased! I love the actor and I thik that he has the baggage to portray a perfect Mance.

    I actually didn’t image him much younger than that…

  32. Zack
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Whoa! Love it! Never expected this particular consolation prize for missing Dominic West!

    He’s going to be awesome!

  33. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Yes, he’s older than I pictured the character.

    No, I don’t care.

    CIARAN HINDS IS ON GAME OF THRONES!!

    Oh, and WE HAVE MANCE AT LAST!!!

  34. Hassan Madkour
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Any news on Ramsay Snow?

  35. alex Also
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    Yes, too old and his voice is too authoritative but those aren’t big problems. I’m sure he’ll do a great job. I’m so relieved they didn’t hire a pretty boy for the job.

  36. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Ah, look at all the complainers . They will bite their tongue again when the season airs just like they did with many other actors .

  37. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Michelle:

    Mance Rayder is Aberforth Dumbledore, everyone. Let that sink in.

    Oh yeh! Forgot about that!

  38. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Hassan Madkour,

    Iwan Rheon.

    If not I’ll eat my laptop.

  39. Richard Weetabix
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Terrific! He’s a very fine actor, although I’d pictured someone a little slighter, physically.

  40. JonathanL
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    SO AWESOME. Great casting!

  41. Empedocles
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    I actually pictured Mance much much younger. Ciaran Hinds is only 5 years older than James Cosmo and I always thought Mance was on the same age range than Benjen Stark. In any case, he is such a great actor that I’m really happy with the casting news anyway.

  42. Nico Escalona
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    I think is fine, he supossed to serve with Lord Commander Mormont, so he cannot be an adonis, he must be severe and hard looking.

    Sorry for the engrish.

  43. Alex Dubrovsky
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    The Red Avenger:
    If he was around when Mormont was around then stands to reason he would be similar age. Ecstatic with this casting.

    Yeah, I’ve always pictured him well into his 50′s. He doesn’t come off as young and his age is never specifically stated in the books, AFAIR.

  44. christopher dickens
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Purefoy is the perfect Victarion Greyjoy in my mind…

  45. Thiago Waldhelm
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    I’ve never seen Rome (to my shame), and I don’t know him at all.

    But in Nina Gold I trust.

  46. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    Complaining? People just think he’s too old, as a lot of people did not imagine him as a 60 year old man.

  47. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Kinda confused as to why everyone pictured Mance so young, sure not as old as Hinds who is nearly 60, but Mance was described as having dark hair that had mostly gone gray, the important thing is not the book description or the image you have in your head though, Hinds can flat out act, trust me you doubters will be singing a different tune after Mance is officially introduced on the show

  48. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Mance was a contemporary of Qhorin Halfhand, so I can adjust my thinking. Hinds’ age isn’t a real problem. And he can play mischievous, he has before.

  49. sjwenings
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Seems about right. Though I hope he tries to age down a bit with a beard – makes a young man look older and an older man look younger, usually – and demeanor. I just don’t see a 59 year old doing what Mance does.

  50. Jillian
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    12 seconds in my life…

    Upon reading headline : Shriek of joy, exceessive excited hand flapping
    2 seconds after reading headline : Call coworker who also loves thrones and told her even though she has no idea who Hinds is.
    Approx. 10 seconds after reading headline: Isn’t he a little old? Also, not James Frain or John Hawkes.
    11 seconds after reading this headline: It’s Julius effing Ceaser, he’ll be amazing!!!
    12 seconds after reading headline: another shriek of joy and more exceessive excited hand flapping

  51. robb17
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    He is definately not what I had in mind for Mance. Oh man he should’ve been Blackfish.

  52. Lise Bollum
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Oooh, this got me excited! I can’t wait to see his take on the King Beyond the Wall. And with so many characters aged up anyway, I don’t mind his age.

  53. furrever
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Awesome!!

  54. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar,

    There are two reasons why this choice is giving me pause. One is that we get the impression from the books that Mance is closer in age to Benjen, maybe even a little younger, and physically no one to be trifled with. Mance glamoured as Rattleshirt is supposed to be stronger, faster, and more fit than Jon expected, and the twist later is that in fact, he IS as Mance. So there’s an expectation that Mance would be more of a big brother figure to Jon than a father figure, and would also look like more of a scrapper. (We know Mance is supposed to be kind of forgettable, but once you take a second look, you can see that he can handle himself.)

    Also, Ciarán has an inherent gravitas to him that I think counters the more devil-may-care aspects of Mance’s character. It’s not that I can’t picture Ciarán as Mance having the balls to sneak into Winterfell during the King’s feast. It’s that I think he’d think twice about doing it, because he comes off as wiser and more battle-weary than someone a little bit younger (and wetter behind the ears) would be.

    edit: Judging by some of the previous comments, I may have gotten the wrong impression,lol.If he’s actually supposed to be a contemporary with Qhorin and I missed that, then I stand corrected.

    Again, Nina Gold and the people involved in casting have been brilliant so far, so I’m not worried. It’s just a different direction than I thought they were going to take for the character.

  55. Direhound
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    From the wiki:

    Mance is a big man, long legged and lean, broad in the chest and shoulders. His once long brown hair is now gone mostly grey, laughter lines appear at the corner of his mouth. [1] He has a sharp face and shrewd brown eyes.[2] He is an unremarkable-looking man in his middle years, with a fondness for music.

    I’d say the age thing is totally projected by readers. (Mostly grey). I’m thrilled. I’ve always thought the guy was fantastic even in small subtle roles like There Will be Blood. We need Vargo and Daario and we can rest easy.

  56. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    I also pictured him younger but he can certainly pull of the Old Bear and I took our vows together and walked the wall side by side for twenty years look. Think this will be incredible!

  57. Ross
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    That’s fantastic. Loved Hinds in Munich

    I think it makes perfect sense that he is older – he has lived a life before the Night’s Watch, served his time at The Wall, deserted to the Wildlings and established himself as leader – that’s a pretty full life. Also I think his age will give the character more obvious leadership / authority – it’s a good move and a great pick. I for one could never picture Dominic West in the role…

  58. Lannister Accountant
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Bud Hammond is Mance Rayder! Sorry couldn’t resist. Like many of you, I wanted James Purefoy (and will still pine for him in perhaps another part, due to his excellent acting ability). Now, all that said, I am more than excited to see Ciarán Hinds in this part, given that I think he can pull it off. While it wasn’t what I pictured (even having recently re-read ASOS), I have always been willing to give Nina Gold the benefit of the doubt.

  59. Bryon Blofstein
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    With all this love for Rome cast members joining GOT, it would be great some how to get Polly Walker casted for something. She was amazing as Atia.

    Ciarán will be great as Mance. I already can picture him in scenes with Kit.

  60. Hmm
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    What an amazing choice! I’m so excited *squeeee*

  61. Warden of the North
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    I was an avid watcher of Rome and was very disappointed when HBO cut it after 2 seasons.

    This is a great pick of a very good, established, veteran actor for Season 3. He’ll be a great Mance.

  62. Juice
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Great, great choice.

  63. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Funny thing: the first time I read the books I pictured him being played by Chris Sarandon, who’s actually older than Hinds.

    The second and third times: Paul McGann.

  64. LordStarkington
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Direhound,

    Yeah, the idea that Mance is young seems to be reader/viewer-invented, because the text (both in describing Mance and in having people like Qhorin seeming to have been close to him with Mance also having had enough time to become King Beyond the Wall, etc.) seems to make it clear he’s been around for some time.

    I’m a big fan of Hinds, and am very happy with this news.

  65. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Now let’s hope they cast Rome’s Ray Stevenson as Victarion Greyjoy.

  66. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Exactly what I was going to say. Very excited about this news. He is perfect for Mance. Has the gravitas necessary for the role. Fucking A!!!

    Ours is the Fury:
    Mance was a contemporary of Qhorin Halfhand, so I can adjust my thinking. Hinds’ age isn’t a real problem. And he can play mischievous, he has before.

  67. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Lannister Accountant,

    Now I’m pulling for Purefoy as Euron Greyjoy. I don’t care, I just want him on the show,lol. (Not as Oberyn, though. Alexander Siddig for Oberyn.)

  68. Iron Throne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    He’s an amazing actor. He’ll make this work.

  69. Direhound
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    LordStarkington,

    Acting and performance should always win out over age in casting for the show except special cases (a 25 year old Bran wouldn’t have worked).

  70. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Kiss me.

    But a non Rome cast member for Euron. This is reserved for Danny Huston.

    Carne:
    Now let’s hope they cast Rome’s Ray Stevenson as Victarion Greyjoy.

  71. th3wick3d1
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    christopher dickens,

    that would be good, but i imagined Purefoy for Euron Greyjoy.

    on topic, i loved Ciaran Hinds in Rome and i think he can play this role to perfection.

  72. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    KatieJo,

    Hell to the yes. And not, I repeat NOT, as the Red Viper, who should be ethnic in appearance.

  73. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Carne,

    Yeah, he’d work, but I have started picturing David O’Hara as Victarion, but so help me, I still think of James Purefoy as Euron.

  74. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    Direhound,
    I agree, and when was age really that important to the portrayal of characters that aren’t children or young adults in the book, Sean Bean was older than Ned, and I doubt anyone would trade his portrayal now, great actors are great actors, and the more you get on this show, the better the show will be, imo

    Direhound,

    Direhound,

  75. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Holy shit! That’s awesome. Love Ciaran Hinds.

  76. Richard
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Yes!! another ROME alumni … ALL HAIL CAESAR

  77. Shadowcat85
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Gahh, I love Paul McGann. Yes, he needs to be on GoT

  78. Nights King
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Don’t really see him as a warrior king who fights in the thick of things with his men (and who beats Jon Snow in a sword fight through brute strength) but maybe that’s because he was so amazing as Caesar. He’s getting pretty old at this point though, so it could be hard to fake that. Still, Dance brings a physicality to Tywin (and without moving about) that balances pretty well with his genius politician thing, so I’ll give Hinds the benefit of the doubt. Old Guys FTW

  79. serum
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    Oh my God, I just got the chills when I read that! Saving the best casting news for last! This is amazing, I’m speechless!

  80. m_k
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Good to know Mance is cast. But i don’t understand why HBO needed some big name for that role. I love Mance in the book but lets face it he does not have much screen time. He basically have two screen with Jon. Besides that Jon just hang around with Ygritte and Tormund. So what is the big deal in getting some big actor?

  81. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Co-sign. I’m just going to keep putting Alexander Siddig out there for Oberyn. If anyone from the show is reading: ALEXANDER. SIDDIG. FOR OBERYN. Not that I’m trying to put a bug in your ear or anything, but yeah. Check him out. ;)

    I’m excited to finally be putting faces to some of my favorite characters. :D Is it March yet?

  82. LordStarkington
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Direhound:
    LordStarkington,

    Acting and performance should always win out over age in casting for the show except special cases (a 25 year old Bran wouldn’t have worked).

    Yes, but I’m referring to the “older than I pictured/imagined” Mance comments. They could have cast a younger actor and I would have been fine with it, but Mance in the books clearly has some years under his belt; he seems to be maybe in his 40s or so (maybe late 30s at the youngest).

  83. Zach
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    KatieJo,

    I also always pictured Mance as being closer to Benjen’s age and more of a spry, physically capable type with a laid-back confidence. Kind of like a Wildling James Bond. This isn’t the first time casting hasn’t fit with my mental image, and it’s always translated well to the screen in the past.

    I know Davos didn’t look at all like what I had pictured, now I can’t imagine anyone else playing that part. Stannis is still wrong to me, though. Ciaran Hinds would have worked better in that role, I think.

  84. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    KatieJo,

    My pick for Oberyn as well! E-mail the agency and let them know he would be perfect! admin@markhamfroggattirwin.com

    I’ve already done it, but it’s better if more people make them aware!

  85. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    KatieJo,

    Good actor, wrong role. I keep picturing Federico Castelluccio as Oberyn, and I’m reserving Siddig for the role of Hizdahr zo Loraq.

  86. The Young Wolf
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    A little older than I thought, but I’m gonna wait until I see him playing Mance before I decide this is good casting or not. Hopefully they fix the hair.

  87. Lina
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    I am really happy with and excited by this casting.

    I’ve been a fan of Ciaran Hinds for a while (Capt. Frederick in Persuasion!). He is definitely an underrated actor with the ability to inject a great amount of gravitas into his characters, and I think this above all his other qualities is going to make him the perfect Mance.

    He may be a bit older than the Mance described in the books, but that doesn’t matter , especially considering the fact that they’ve aged up nearly all the TV characters. Otherwise he looks the part: tall, distinguished and attractive without being too traditionally good-looking (if I remember correctly Mance is described as looking rather plain). But that aside, I think its his intensity that is really going to serve as the heart of TV Mance.

  88. Kate Bussell
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    When I saw the announcement I shrieked like a little girl and nearly jumped off the couch, dropping my computer on the floor. Yes. That’s how excited I am about seeing Hinds cast as Mance! He was one of my top picks despite being slightly older than I imagined Mance to be. Wow. WOW!

  89. Maria Batsiou
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    christopher dickens:
    Purefoy is the perfect Victarion Greyjoy in my mind…

    Purefoy should get casted as a Greyjoy. Better be Crow’s eye!

  90. Winter Is Coming
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    m_k, it seems they strive to get at least one new big name actor per season. Mance was the only role that could conceivably fit a big name this year. They will likely add some scenes to beef up his role.

    Excited about this casting. And I have heard there is more to come. Stay tuned!

  91. Igor Veloso
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    It’s an actor I was hoping to be cast in some role, but at the same time a thought of him like a “dream cast”. Never thought he would be Mance, but I’m not complaining, this is totally cool! This guy has this charisma. Presence in the show that…that…gah! Awesome! Loved him on Rome. Would love to see some more of Rome’s cast on the show, but maybe would be asking too much already lol.

  92. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Haha are you worried about Mance having mussed up hair with product in it like the above pic? I don’t think you need to worry lol
    The Young Wolf,

  93. Tolgeros
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Attention everybody complaining that he looks different/older from book Mance:

    Why is this a new thing for you? This is like the 8000th time that an actor was cast who looks different from their book version, and nearly every time the casting was a good fit. In Nina Gold we trust. Remember Tywin Lannister? He definitely looks and acts different from book Tywin yet nobody is complaining. Give Ciaran a chance! Have you SEEN Rome?!

  94. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Any ETA?

  95. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    m_k,

    How far into the books have you gotten?

  96. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    I’m not that familiar with Castellucio’s work, so I can’t agree or disagree with you. I have a list of actors that I want to see on the show, and Siddig is one of them. Any of the actors on my list could play a variety of parts, as far as I’m concerned. I just want them on there,lol.

    Carne,

    Thanks for the info! :)

  97. Jenny Pugh
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    If we couldn’t have Dominic West, then I am MORE than happy with Ciaran Hinds, and he is no way too old – I never visualised Mance as younger than 40/50-ish, and we must remember that everyone in the series is older than they are in the books. Perfect!

  98. Greg
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    At first I was like
    “well, that’s not how I pictured Mance”
    and then I was like
    “IT’S FUCKING ABERFORTH THIS IS GONNA BE SO COOL”

  99. Shinyteapot
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I think this is a great choice. He’s a little more imposing than I imagined Mance, but good acting will fix that.

    I must be in the minority, I always pictured Mance as a little older than Ned.

  100. Sam
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Hell yes.

    … That is all.

  101. Alan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Great pick, if only because Hinds is such a fantastic actor. Someone above said “too serious” but he can definitely play something other than Caesar — he just doesn’t get those role as often in things we see.

    Yes, yes, he’s older than even an aged up Mance should be. (I think Mance should be in his 30s in the book, and given the Sean Bean age up that means 40-50ish is about right). And they may even find they change the story a bit to accomodate that — is a 60+ Ciaran Hinds going to beat 25 year old Jon Snow in a swordfight? I dunno.

    But much like Bean with Ned or Dance with Tywin or Dillane with Stannis, these cosmetic changes are worth it for the performance.

  102. Domenico Barbato
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Absolutely not what I thought Mance would look like – but who gives a damn? He’s CIARAN HINDS! The guy’s great!

  103. John W
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    Holy ^%$#$!

  104. Peppe
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    I love this actor, but he’s too old for my perfect Mance Rayder…btw I love him in Rome.

    Now I hope that Ray Stevenson will join soon the cast!

  105. ACVG
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Reading the books i always saw him older, didnt he sneak into winterfell and get snow thrown at him by young robb and jon, he remembers seeing them as little kids when he was already an independent man

  106. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Zach,

    Davos, for some reason, always looked like Iain Glenn to me. And I didn’t start reading the books until halfway through season 1, so there is no logical explanation for me re-casting him as Davos, lol. Stannis was always more of an amorphous character. I couldn’t picture his face, but his personality was clear. For those reasons, and the fact that I love both Liam Cunningham and Stephen Dillane, I totally embraced their casting. They weren’t who I thought of for the role, but they worked really well.

    I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought we was closer to Benjen in age,lol. I thought I hallucinated that for a sec. Honestly though, it’s like you said. The casting department has done such an amazing job so far, that I can’t be too worried about any casting choice. You know it’s going to work out.

  107. Alan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    m_k:
    Good to know Mance is cast. But i don’t understand why HBO needed some big name for that role. I love Mance in the book but lets face it he does not have much screen time. He basically have two screen with Jon. Besides that Jon just hang around with Ygritte and Tormund. So what is the big deal in getting some big actor?

    From a straight book perspective, in Season 3, you are right. The role does get more substantial, and I could see the TV show adding to his role (even checking in when Jon isn’t there).

  108. Omar Brown
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    He is slightly older than what I imagined Mance to be, but he is a badass. Love this guy! King Beyond the Wall!

    Oh and lookie what I made!

    http://winteriscomingfans.activeboard.com/

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  109. Liz B.
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Oooh! Prince Humperdink as Mance! What a hoot that would have been. Of course, now I’m wanting Christopher Guest cast in GOT…..

  110. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Another point that some people overlook is that an actors age in real life doesn’t always directly transfer to the show, hinds may be nearly 60, but Mance could be 45 or 50 in the show, I imagine years of life beyond the wall in subzero temperatures in a world that already lacks modern medicine, cosmetics, etc. might make you look a little older than you are, and if people believe that Ian Mcilhenny could carve up 5 Kings Guard members as Barristan, I see no reason Ciarian couldnt kick John’s ass as Mance

  111. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    KatieJo,

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0144843/

    His look is perfect, and if you watch Seasons 3 and 4 of the Sopranos you’ll see his attitude is as well.

    Besides, I always thought the Dornish looked a little Mediterranean, not Arabic.

  112. Hieronymus
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Great actor, but can he sing?

    My favorite role of his was Brian de Bois-Guilbert in the Ivanhoe 1997 mini series.

    Also watch him in the funny short movie The Shore with Varys actor Conleth Hill.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBUU5QX9tBI

  113. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Alan,

    I actually thought the same thing, but technically Sean Bean could have kicked Jon’s ass with no issues. You never know, Hinds could be wilier than he looks. ;p

    As an aside, how old is Jon supposed to be in ADWD anyways? 18? By the time they get to that scene (if they get to it), Kit will probably be around 27 or 28, and Show!Jon, assuming he was 18 in the first season, will be between 21 and 23.

  114. The Red Viperette
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Great choice for Mance, although like many, for some reason I did picture him as being younger in the books but, hey – ho, Ciaran is a superb actor and I’m sure he’ll rock it !!

  115. Alan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    KatieJo:
    Alan,

    I actually thought the same thing, but technically Sean Bean could have kicked Jon’s ass with no issues. You never know, Hinds could be wilier than he looks. ;p


    As an aside, how old is Jon supposed to be in ADWD anyways? 18? By the time they get to that scene (if they get to it), Kit will probably be around 27 or 28, and Show!Jon, assuming he was 18 in the first season, will be between 21 and 23.

    Actually, given Sean Bean’s propensity for scuffles, perhaps he actually has kicked Kit Harrington’s ass once or twice!

  116. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/c/ca/Mance_Rayder.jpg/250px-Mance_Rayder.jpg

    ^This here is why so many picture Mance as looking around 40 or so. Nothing GRRM says about him makes me think he’s that young.

    Looking again, though, doesn’t the face in that picture kinda look like Ciaran Hinds?

  117. Hi-Fi
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Great news! He really is a great actor.

    I do hope, though, that my two favorites from Rome cross-over eventually: Purefoy and Stevenson.

    By the way, any news on a possible Val this season? WiC?

  118. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    See, I waffle on the Dornish. GRRM describes them as having a few distinct looks, based on where in Dorne someone is actually from. Since Oberyn is high nobility, and the noble families married out of the Dornish noble class a lot for political reasons, he could probably be more Mediterranean looking. That being said, I love the idea of the Dornish being Arabic. If only to show that the world of this series is so tiny that everyone looks alike. It’s not, it’s a wide, sweeping world, and should be represented as such.

    …I’m reading my above statement and cringing, CRINGING, at how big of a dork I am that I just talked pretty authoritatively about political marriages in a made-up noble class. Really, let’s pretend it didn’t happen, shall we?

  119. Amanda Milholland
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Very excited about this! I agree that he’s a bit too old and doesn’t quite look the way I imagined him to, but I am a very big fan of him as an actor and I know that he will do an amazing job regardless of looks! Especially considering that pretty much EVERY actor on the show is “too old” (since they seemed to have upped everyone’s ages from the novels) I’m not surprised that they went with someone older. Fits with what they’ve been doing on the show so far.

  120. m_k
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Set Dingleberry:
    m_k,

    How far into the books have you gotten?

    I have completed book 3 and now reading book 4.

  121. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Andrea

    When you eventually show up, good luck to Los Pumas for tomorrow, though I think the Springboks are gonna kill them!

  122. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    HA! I don’t know. Kit’s small, but he seems like a scrapper. ;p Then again, Sean Bean took a broken bottle to the arm and went back in the pub for a pint, so. He does have insanity on his side.

  123. Obsidian
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Hinds is a really fine actor , and I’m always happy to see him in anything. I always felt that many of the fan suggestions were too young. I always pictured Mance as at least a contemporary of Benjen , and maybe just a tad older. So, while I feel he’a a bit older than my ideal Mance , I’m very happy overall.

    It stands to reason that his role will be fleshed out a bit at first, because , in the books , there’s a lot of story between his introduction and when he becomes more central .

    I do hope for a better job of fleshing out than with Jeyne / Talisa , though.

  124. Alan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker:
    KatieJo,

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0144843/

    His look is perfect, and if you watch Seasons 3 and 4 of the Sopranos you’ll see his attitude is as well.

    Besides, I always thought the Dornish looked a little Mediterranean, not Arabic.

    From the asoif wiki: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Dornishmen

    “The Rhoynar were a slender people with smooth olive skin, black hair and dark eyes. Their impact on the Dornish gene pool is strongest along the coast, and grows faint farther inland. Dornishmen with more Andal and First Men blood are larger and fairer than those with more Rhoynish.

    According to King Daeron I’s observations during his wars in Dorne, there are three group of Dornishmen:

    *Salty Dornishmen live along the coasts, mainly along the Broken Arm region, where the Red Mountains stretch out into the Sea of Dorne. These Dornishmen are lithe and dark, with smooth olive skin and long black hair. They are fishermen and sailors, hard men who sail the ships of the Dornish fleet.[4]

    *Sandy Dornishmen live in the deserts and the long river valleys, faces burned brown by the hot Dornish sun, they are even darker than the salty Dornishmen.[4]

    *Stony Dornishmen live in the passes and heights of the Red Mountains. They have the most Andal and First Men blood and mostly resemble the other people of the Seven Kingdoms in look, customs and traditions. They are brown-haired or blond with faces that freckled or burned in the sun.[4]

    *Additionally, another, smaller group exists: the Greenblood orphans are pure Rhoynar who ply the Greenblood in poleboats.”

    I tend to think of Dorne as Spanish and the pure Rhoynar looking most like the Romani they seem to be partially based off.

    According to the wiki, the Martells are mostly Salty Dornishmen: olive skin, lithe and dark, smooth black hair.

  125. Prankster
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Man, am I the only one who DIDN’T picture Mance as being “young”? Was there a line in the book that I missed about his age? Because it’s hard to imagine a guy getting to where Mance is without having a few years on him. Plus, the dude lives north of the wall, and presumably spends a lot of time fighting. That’s got to age you even beyond your years.

  126. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    I want Purefoy as Jon Connington or the Red Viper

    Danny Huston has a similar facial structure as Malahide, and he owns the “bad ass” role. He needs to be Euron.

  127. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:09 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown,

    I’m there :)

  128. timmy t
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Prankster,

    Exactly. Ciaran is a perfect choice in my mind and those wishing for a younger guy or are unfamiliar with his work will not be disappointed when Mance shows up on screen.

  129. Obsidian
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    ACVG,

    Jon remembers Mance as a young ranger ( as Benjen would have been ) when Robb and Jon were rascally boys .

  130. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    So the Martells could be either Mediterranean looking, or Arabic looking. Either Siddig or Castellucio would work. Just not Purefoy. He’s so plainly English, it would bug me. (And that’s the priority for this production, obviously. Not to bug ME. ;) ) A little more variety please, Thrones!

    Again, Purefoy for Euron Greyjoy! It’s the only role I can see him in at this point.

  131. franny_bee
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Hail Caesar!

  132. Josh Parker
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Philip Glenister.

  133. Oi!
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    I love it best actor cast so far in the whole of GOT… I’ll take an awesome actor such as Ciarin over “faithful to the book” any day.

  134. Celia
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    This is so exciting! Perfection!

  135. Moff
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    I am extremely excited, he doesnt look at all as I pictured mance, but hinds is an amazing actor and I am sure he will be the perfect mance, no doubt there

  136. Sir Gallahad
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Ciaran Hinds also played Aberforth Dumbledore in the final Harry Potter film, which was a great performance… A great casting, in my view.

  137. tysnow
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Hail Caesar! (Roman Fist Pump). Best casting news day since Carice and Stephen were announced as Mel and Stannis. As for those with reservations, remember what some fans were saying about those two, now they and we cannot imagine anyone else in the roles. Ciaran will do the same, with his impeccable and consumate Thespian skills, he will own the King beyond the Wall.

  138. Alan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    KatieJo:
    Alan,

    So the Martells could be either Mediterranean looking, or Arabic looking. Either Siddig or Castellucio would work. Just not Purefoy. He’s so plainly English, it would bug me. (And that’s the priority for this production, obviously. Not to bug ME. ;) ) A little more variety please, Thrones!

    Again, Purefoy for Euron Greyjoy! It’s the only role I can see him in at this point.

    I’d personally prefer they go further towards the olive than an Italian actor, especially Furio there. Just to mix it up a bit and also to create a visible differentiation. The Dornish are culturally different than the rest of the Seven Kingdoms and it’d be nice to signal that visually.

    Also, as someone mentioned, the show is very monochromatic and the world as described by Martin isn’t. Let’s mix it up.

  139. Coltaine777
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    The role of Mance is a fairly physical one and I don’t know if Hinds is up to it…I also pictured Mance much younger than mid 60′s …however I am very familiar with this actor and I think he is fantastic..the only problem is this show is going on for many more yrs and as I said before Hinds is very old …In Nina I trust ..

  140. Carlos G Diaz
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    It is known!!

  141. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Danny Huston, so spake the Treausurer of the Danny Huston fan club.

    Josh Parker,

  142. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Why are people so ageist? My father is in his 70′s a could out climb the best of them. Which is reality! This my friends is fiction and Hinds is an ACTOR! He doesn’t have to actually fight anyone , actually scale any walls etc.etc. Blimey :p

  143. Johan Sporre
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Great to have Ciarán Hinds as anyone!
    Please give me Pullo, Vorenus, Marc Anthony, Niobe and Atia as well.

  144. Oi!
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Coltaine777,

    LOL very old? His less then 60. And in what way is the role of Mance more physical than Ceasar in Rome.

  145. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    “Dances around!” Yeah, but beware of the ides of March!

  146. dio forel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Its mances attitude and demeanor that gives off the young vibe not his looks…we hear the things he says and does and it makes him seem more juvenile. But his physical description and even his explained history imply he is middle aged… Hes definitely gonna have a more wild and ragged look since he is a wildling so thatll help for others. Idk about others but i dont imagine all the wildlings following some young guy… Theyre following mance and the experience and knowledge he brings to the table. He left the watch ages ago and went on to be the man he is… That takes time. The age people seem to picture for him on here would seem entirely out of place for who he is and what his extensive reputation implies.

  147. Klavonivs
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    AWESOME!!!!!!!!! What a great Ceasar beyond the wall he will be!!!! Just a great all around actor, obviously from Rome, but he was great in Munich and Road to Perdition (a small but great role) as well…..a sigh of relief has come over me:)

  148. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    Might the Ladies over 30 agree to Fassbender for the Red Viper?

  149. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:01 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    I would just agree to Fassbender ! Anything , just yes . . . Hee hee

  150. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    59 ain’t that old, jeez you act like he’s on his death bed
    Coltaine777,

  151. Oi!
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Oh and I’d kill for a Charles Dance – Ciaran Hinds scene.

  152. Arthur
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Awesome news! I loved HBO’s ROME. Hopefully a lot more former cast members of that show find their way on GoT. Kevin McKidd and James Purefoy would be who I’d love to see =]

  153. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    m_k,

    just checking,Keep reading you’ll see why an actor of Hinds caliber and notoriety was a good idea

  154. caro herrera
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Fantastic news!! I’ve loved him ever since he played the mayor of casterbridge and phantom of the opea. He has a lot of talent and it’s great they have him a mance. He is a bit older than what I also picture for the king beyond the wall (I don’t see hom so much fighting against stannis army do to that I guess in a way purefoy or rufus sewell might have done) but this casting news is great. Can’t eait to see his scenes with jon <3

  155. The Young Wolf
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Set Dingleberry:
    Haha are you worried about Mance having mussed up hair with product in it like the above pic? I don’t think you need to worry lol
    The Young Wolf,

    No. Mance is supposed to have long hair, and I’ve always pictured him like that.

  156. KatieJo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    I think that someone was me,lol. Like I said above, I really want some more diversity in the show. For many reasons, but mostly because it’d help to show the scope of how big Westeros is, and in comparison, how huge the world is outside of Westeros too.

  157. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    I’m just curious as to what accent he’ll do …. mini obsession I know .

  158. bon
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Why all those complaining about age? I don’t think that Mance was close to Benjen age. Why because he had quiet a lot of white hairs. My parents start to have grey hairs in their early 50s, earlier than their parents that started to ahve grey hairs in late 60s…

  159. Mimsy
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Definitely not what I was expecting, but I like that look and vibe that Ciarián is giving off up top. I figured Mance was in his early 40′s, because of his personality, physicality and that he was just starting a family.

    Well… if the chemistry is there between Jon and Mance, that’s all I care about. I was pleasantly surprised with the Stannis badassery in Blackwater, so I’m sure they can play that off for an older Mance as well.

    Sooo excited for S3 and what a wonderful night of back to back GOT episodes on HBO last night. I miss not having new episodes!

  160. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    Yes, I’ll be disappointed if the Martells wind up being just dark Italian in looks. The show has the opportunity to go with a range of middle-eastern or south Asian actors, and I think they should use the chance.
    Om Puri is my pick for Doran Martell. I’m fine with Siddig as Oberyn, though there are a lot of other actors I would like to see in the part too.

  161. bon
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    It could Scottish like Craster, because he lives with wildlings… Or english like southeners, because he was raised on the Wall…

  162. caravaggio
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    BOOM! And Nina Gold lands a stunning slobberknocker after missing out on Dominic West! Caesar-Beyond-the-Wall!

  163. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown,

    You Ser are a pioneer! Now we just need to get WICnet to endorse it and put up a link to it up top.

  164. Lex
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    OH! MY! GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’ve been hoping for Ciaran Hinds, for the last two years!!!

    I’m literally freaking out right now!!! Best news since SEAN BEAN!!!!!!!!!

  165. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Got it, well if he doesn’t don’t get too upset, it’s not an integral part of his character afterall, personally I think Hinds would look much better with cropped hair and a beard in this role, neither of which book Mance had
    The Young Wolf,

  166. Iker Gernika
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Perfect , in Nina Gold I trust!

  167. Dreamlife
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Ciaran’s Southern accent in Political Animals was terrible and distracting and for that alone I almost booed this choice. Then I realized this is the same actor who fabulously played Julius Caesar in Rome. My confidence is fully restored. Good job, HBO, you continually prove that you are among the best in casting. I can’t wait to see Kit Harrington acting alongside this very talented actor.

  168. Abyss
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: Om Puri is my pick for Doran Martell.

    Wow, someone should mail his agent, I think he is perfect for the role.
    http://www.fotohause.com/images/o/mixed-o/om-puri/om-puri-02.jpg

  169. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    I hope Mance ends up looking something like this.

    I believe he is described as not having a beard in the books, but in my opinion a beard would be the way to go.

  170. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Oh I am so with you on that one!

  171. Omar Brown
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

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  172. Jarvisimo
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    According to the Wiki of Ice and Fire, Mance has graying hair and other signs of older/middle years age. Hinds will be wonderful, I hope, as long as the role is written well (unlike poor Quorin).

  173. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    Tell that to poor Jon Snow

  174. Hi-Fi
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Am I crazy or did I read somewehere that GRRM have always pictured Janina Gavankar as Arianne?

    I think the Sand Snakes should have very distinct looks.

  175. Joshua Taylor
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Hinds was definitely not among my considerations for Mance but this will work nicely I think. They have set up a great dichotomy between Jon’s relationship with Mormont and his relationship with Mance. The show wishes to see Mance as a slightly younger opposite version of the Old Bear. This will work very well.

    The History geek in me is giggling as Caesar has now traded places with Vercingetorix! Tee hee!

  176. bon
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    I see here that almoust nobody remembers how Mance really looks. He has plenty of grey hairs!!! http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Mance_Rayder He can be in late 50s like actor is!!! People in late 50s can be in very good condition… My grandfather (74 years old), rides on bicycle 40 kilomethers in 1.5 hour!!! I’m serious…

  177. Hi-Fi
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Dreamlife:
    I can’t wait to see Kit Harrington acting alongside this very talented actor.

    More than Kit, I hope we get to see Rose Leslie interacting with Ciarán!

  178. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

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    Just added to my favorites

    Omar Brown:
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  179. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown,

    Registered, but am not on FB. Hopefully, I can get in anyway, it was worth a try!

  180. Jillian
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    I just thought how funny it would be if Ciaran gave Kit tips on how to pull of the “betrayed and stabbed repeatedly” scene. It just kinda made me giggle to think that Ceasar of Rome is going to be working with his GoT equivalent. “

  181. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Are you jst saying that cause now Caesar is a barbbarian, or is the actual Verc actor from Rome in GOT.

  182. michael manuel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    His age doesn’t bother me. Everybody else is aged up in the show, and he was far from a young guy in the book. I think that whole talk of James Purefoy and Dominic West got people’s(i.e. fangirls) hopes up that he’d be a younger, hunkier dude. I’m sure Hinds will be fine. I’ve disliked him in everything I’ve seen him in though. He always looks like he has painful indigestion.

  183. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Jillian,

    lol I see what you did there ;p

  184. Coltaine777
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Set Dingleberry,

    Lol …I do like him though :) …

  185. Michel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    OMFG! He is a great actor, but he is veryyyyyyyyyyyyyy different from the Mance that I imagined :( Let’s see…

  186. hhhh
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Yesss!!! I can’t say that this is how I imagined Mance to look like, but I haven’t been this happy about an actor joining the cast since Sean Bean was cast as Ned. I love this guy. His was the most memorable performance in Rome, imo. When I think of Ceasar, I still imagine him to look like Ciarán Hinds. I’m very, very, very happy about this! I wanted to see him in GoT.

  187. The Young Wolf
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Can Ciaran sing?

  188. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown,

    On my mobile right now, just wait till I’m back on my laptop on Sunday and I’ll join you guys happily. Take a bow Ser I bestow on you the honourific title of Warden of the Forum.

  189. Lex
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    I think some people are way off in their mental image of Mance.

    He’s described as a big man, in his “middle years”, with gray hair. He’s not young.

    IMO, Hinds is perfect! He joins Sean Bean, Mark Addy, and Stephen Dillane as my favourite pieces of casting so far.

  190. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Which book is your majesty currently on? Are you done with the series or are you on ADWD?

  191. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Wow, loved him in Rome! So happy for this!!

  192. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    The Young Wolf,

    He sang in Phantom of the Opera but he had no experience before then. His voice isn’t strong, but it isn’t terrible, and Mance isn’t supposed to be an opera singer anyway. http://youtu.be/p08aplisemU

  193. Wastrel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    CIARAN HINDS IS MANCE!!! CIARAN HINDS IS MANCE!!!!! CIARAN HINDS IS….

    *coughs, looks around*

    Hmm, that was an unexpected reaction. Not sure why that happened.

    However, Ciaran Hinds is awesome. I’ve always thought he was great, but I saw him on stage earlier this year and it really magnified that opinion (and proved to me that he could play comedy, incidentally).

  194. paylor
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    I pictured him to be in his 40s, which is the “middle years.” It’s going to be hard to erase Mads Mikkelsen from my mind’s eye, but Hinds is a great actor and I’m sure will do a good job.

  195. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    The Young Wolf,

    I’ve just Googled and he was in a musical ….

  196. andrea
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    I thought that at some point someone would say it was a joke/mistake because is the best casting I could imagine. This actor is a magnificent gift for GoT.
    I love this man. He´s brilliant. I´ve enjoyed every character Hinds has played.
    I´m truly amazed.

    Aegon the Conqueror,
    oh nice! Thanks! We´ll see what happens.

  197. OldGran
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    In Nina we trust! Has not everyone been aged up a bit? He is 59?? someone said mid 60′s. Next we’ll hear he is doddering onto the set with his walker.

  198. Lex
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink
  199. uno0
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    I am soooo excited! Am enjoying the heck out of his performance in “Political Animals” on USA network. I have followed his career with interest ever since seeing him in “Persuasion”. Well done, Nina Gold and HBO!

  200. The Queen's Hand
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Sweet, I loved him in Rome, maybe a bit older than I pictured Mance, but I suppose the show did add a few years to the timeline between Robert’s rebellion and the story anyway

  201. GrimTuesday
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    That’s pretty cool, I really liked him in Rome and I’m sure he will do a great job as Mance. I was one of the ones who didn’t picture him as being young.

    God I’d forgotten how silly some of you guys are, getting in a tizzy over nothing.

  202. Michel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    For the confirmed characters, there is only Daario and Vargo now…but there are many others like Belwas, Mace Tyrel, Tom, Lem, Shagwell, Dalla, Val, Styr and Varamyr (if they won’t combine then with Orell) and some others..

  203. Lexyvil
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    I hope to see long hair for his role. I can’t ever picture short hair on Mance.

  204. Michel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Lexyvil,

    Same here, and same for Meera without long hair and Edmure without beard

  205. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink
  206. The Greatsteve
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    That will work nicely.

  207. tysnow
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Can you imagine the scenes later on with Ciaran, Dillane and Carice (pure Emmy gold)
    Waiting to hear Sophie Myles cast as Dalla/Val combo, no need for both roles, it will give the role more prominence that way.

  208. Catherine Henry-Greskovic
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Totally pleased with this! I did picture Mance younger but I have always been a big fan of his work.

  209. Wastrel
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Bubbalouey:
    Too old and too serious.. Not nance at all

    You really don’t have to worry about seriousness. Yes, Hinds normally gets serious, dour roles, but that’s not all he can do. He was in “Juno and the Paycock” in London this winter, as “Captain” Jack Boyle. For those who don’t know, Captain Jack is a tragicomic drunkard who spends most the play staggering around drunk, delivering pompous speeches, making up stories about his nautical career (one trip on a boat), cooking sausages, and making up excuses for avoiding work. He was hilarious.

    I’d also reassure those who worried that Mance would be more imposing and dangerous-seeming physically. Well, believe me, Hinds does not look like a man you’d want to get into a fight with. The guy is over six foot tall, and broad-shouldered. He’s not going to look like he can take on the Hound, but he could easily look like a guy who would have been seriously dangerous when he was younger, and still shouldn’t be messed with casually.

    [Which come to think of it is pretty true of his Caesar. I never had the impression that Caesar would have been easy to take down in a fight.]

  210. queen of the hill
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    HAIL CAESAR – This is wonderful. GoT is amazing with the casting. Looking forward to the new season that can’t come soon enough.

  211. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Not how I pictured Mance. The age isn’t a problem for me. I was just expecting Mance to be more unassuming. And I don’t know where people are getting that Mance was big in the books. He is described as being of ‘middling height’. But I have always said that a great actor would take significance over just looks(in most cases). Cirian Hinds is without a doubt a great actor. So I am a happy man! In Nina Gold I trust!

  212. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Did someone say there was more news to come ^ …. don’t keep us hanging ;p

  213. Hi-Fi
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    There was also a leaked audition for the role of Mero, The Titan’s Bastard.

  214. sjwenings
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Lex: And yes… Ciaran Hinds can sing!

    Wonderful! I hope we get to hear him at least hum a little. It’d give him a lot more flavor.

  215. Superdeluxe
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    So most of us think that we picture Mance as younger..is that based on who we started to fancast for that role? (Purefoy etc), or is it actually based out of the books? I’m trying to remember. If he was roughly the same age as Qhorion, then he doesn’t look out of place.

  216. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Holy sh………..yes yes yes thank you Nina Gold !!!

    The Rome renunion will continue in season 5 with James Purefoy as Euron and Ray Stevenson as Victarion :-D

  217. Jake
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Gaius Julius Caesar is Mance Rayder *Goosbump* YAYYYYYYYYYY

  218. Lynn
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    I love James Purefoy as much as anybody here, but the bad news is that Reality Happens, and he’s in a Fox series this season with Kevin Bacon. They’re busy with it now, and there was no chance that JP would be free to do season 3 of GoT. If that show takes off, ditto for season 4.

    I get the idea of fantasy casting, but declaring yourself “disappointed” when someone who was never available in the first place just strikes me as silly.

  219. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Late to the party on this one so I have not read any posts yet….

    Incredible news!
    I wanted Mr Hinds on the show and the roles meaty enough for him have been going to others and were running out. I did picture Mance a decade younger, but honestly they never give a description of Mance’s age. A comment about grey in his hair that means very little. I have a 22-year old co-worker who has salt and pepper hair! XD

    He will have the right amount oof charisma Mance should have. Mance is not a wall flower or someone that blends in because he cannot stand out as many seemed to think. He is a charismatic man that is smart enough to know how to blend in when he need sto.

    Awesome news. We have Hinds for a few years at least!
    This made my day.

  220. dizzy_34
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    love Ciarán Hinds. Little older than I pictured Mance but that’s o.k. so was Sean Bean. The more Rome alumni the better I say.

  221. victarion
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    King Beyond the Rubicon!

  222. Mimsy
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Permalink
    The Young Wolf,

    He sang in Phantom of the Opera but he had no experience before then.

    uno0: uno0
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
    I am soooo excited! Am enjoying the heck out of his performance in “Political Animals” on USA network. I have followed his career with interest ever since seeing him in “Persuasion”. Well done, Nina Gold and HBO!

    I THOUGHT he looked familiar! His singing voice is perfect and that “Notes” video shows a comical side to him that is endearing. And… Persuasion!! .. Cpt Wentworth for the WIN!

  223. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME !!!!

    Polly Walker for Mance’s wife ? Kerry Condon for Val ?

    Simon Woods for Aegon !!!!!

  224. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Hear! Hear!

    Stevenson as Victorian and after a lengthy apology and some begging from Dominic West, West as Euron Greyjoy! XD

    Of course Rome alum James Purefoy would kill as Crow’s Eye too!

  225. SerCountryFriedSteak
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    I feel the same way I did about the casting of Stannis & Melissandre: THE ACTORS ARE ABOUT 15-YEARS OLDER THAN THEY SHOULD BE, BUT CIARAN HINDS IS A GREAT ACTOR.

    He was incredible on Rome

  226. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Screw McNutly he blew his opportunity Euron will be James Purefoy after Fox cancels that show.

  227. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Okay, now that the big one is out of the way, it is time for HBO to announce the rest of the roles that have been cast. We know that Vargo has already been cast because they have already been filming Jaime and Brienne’s scenes. I want to know who is playing the Goat!

  228. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I thought it was Tom Brooke?!?

  229. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Huzzah Al. Well, maybe not Polly, she bores me tits off.

    Welcome to fucking Deadwood!

    Al Swearengen: Polly Walker for Mance’s wife ? Kerry Condon for Val ?

    Simon Woods for Aegon !!!!!

  230. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    :-D

  231. Morrigan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    When I first started watching Rome, I found the actor underwhelming, because I felt Caesar should have more presence, should stand out more amongst other men, because, you know, it’s Gaius! Julius! Caesar!

    …But then he really grew on me and now I couldn’t imagine anyone else playing Caesar.

    So, to me, he’s perfect for Mance. He could look unassuming and generic until you realize the deep charisma and depths of his leadership.

    And no, Mance is not a young man. He might not meant to be pushing sixty, but who cares? It won’t affect the story in any way. They aged up all the characters, why does it matter if they aged up Mance too? I’m way more worried about the writers butchering the story than the actors being barely slightly older than the character was written.

  232. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Oh lord no she’s far too old ! Ha ha ha ha ha!

  233. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    I hope Mance ends up looking something like this.

    I believe he is described as not having a beard in the books, but in my opinion a beard would be the way to go.

    A woman agrees that would be a very King beyond the Wall look, what show is that pic from? Looks sort of Celt/Druid-ish.

    From his work on Rome, Hinds will absolutely KILL as Mance (pun intended).

  234. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    If I recall correctly his participation on the show was discovered on his agency’s website. I don’t remember HBO announcing him or who he was playing.

  235. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    I have had 3 actors in my mind for Euron , each reading randomly evolves into one of them…. James Purefoy, Mads Mikkelsen and Dominic West. The first 2 being my favorites honestly.

    Purefoy just IS Euron. Look at this side by side photo.

  236. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    This is true, but I reckon it’s him ;)

  237. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Ivanhoe I think.

  238. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    *jaw drops , tongue lolls….*

  239. queenofthorns
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    lol look at the fanboy explosion!!! *

    * I AM EXCITED TOO. I Love Rome. :)

  240. Adrianne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Can’t flipping wait!!

  241. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    As soon as Euron was described and started talking in AFFC I immediately pictured Purefoy, he’s got that dark side to him and fits the look. Plus James would look so badass with an eye patch. Purefoy almost looked like The Crows Eye in Solomon Kane.

  242. Hi-Fi
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Stop it. My heart will be broken when Purefoy isn’t cast.

  243. Adrianne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Can’t flipping wait!! He was fantastic as JC, and am thrilled to death he will be Mance!!

  244. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    You are all winning me over with James Purefoy as Euron, ya cunts. Lol. He has a great look for the part. If he is not available, what about Thomas Jane from Hung? They look like brothers.

  245. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    I’m not a big Purefoy fan, but I can dig him as Victarion or Euron. Mention him as the Red Viper, and my blood will boil, though.

  246. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    I completely agree about Solomon Cane!
    Same image I have for the most part…. maybe a little Wesrosi tweak to his appearance.

  247. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    The more heartbreaking thing is Purefoy is a fan of the series

    If it was the right role on Game of Thrones, definitely. Of course! It’s a terrific series. It’s a great series of books. I love HBO. I’m on record saying that HBO is the best television company in the world, and I believe they are. I think they absolutely understand how to make television that is really, really vital and interesting and visceral, and all the things that television really should be. I’m a big fan of HBO.

  248. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Hey what about Purefoy for the Red Viper?

    Sorry TyrionPimpslap…. you all but dared me :D

  249. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Victarion to me needs a good physical build !! I want to believe that the actor playing Victarion could smash a mans head in with just his bare hands. Even though I dream about casting Rome actors in every role for GOT I honestly think Ray Stevenson would make a perfect Victarion, he’s got the build and Pullo has some similar charastics as Victarion

  250. dubq
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    People forget that Mance is described as being in his “middle years” with all grey hair and laugh-lines at the corner of his mouth – aka his mid-to-late 50′s. Ciarán Hinds is 59, but doesn’t look a day over 50, so I think he’s the perfect age for the role.

  251. queen of the hill
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Queen of Thorns casting turned out to be pretty big too.

  252. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Swagger wise I think Purefoy has the Red Viper in him, but I agree with most that the Martells should be Arab, Israeli, Mediterranean, Near Eastern etc

    I have always seen Oded Fehr as Red Viper I guess, or someone close in appearance. Lately I have been lovely Amr Waked and want to see him in some role, Oberyn could work. Hrithik Roshan has the goods for the role for sure, but I’ve been told he does not like to work outside Bollywood.

    The one “non-POC” actor I can see in the role is Rudolf Martin. I think he is German, but I have seen him play Israeli and Middeleastern in so many shows I think of him as such I guess. Martin just has that “Viper” look to him with the heavy widow’s peak and those snake-like eyes.

  253. Bael
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Nooooooooooo! This kills after the dominic west near miss news. They may have been better of with an unknown with a little devil in his eyes. I can’t imagine this actor prancing over dead bodies in winterfell playfully playing his lute like in ADwD.

    I guess will have to wait and see. Maybe he will knock it out of the park.

  254. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink
  255. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Exactly !!

    Ray is such a badass.

  256. Joshua Taylor
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Lol. The first thing.

  257. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Oh yes, Oded Fehr is my dream choice to play Oberyn. The guy has the look. Plus, he is capable of playing a warrior(‘The Mummy’) and a womanizer(‘Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo’).

  258. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

    Ray should of been Mance, he grew up at the end of the wall in Newcastle. Oh well he’s certainly good with an axe so Victarion works too I guess

  259. Yellow Dog
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Dreamlife,

    Oh, seven hells! I stopping watching after half the first episode because I could not tolerate another second of that horrible performance.

    Yeah, yeah, great actor, different character, blah, blah, blah. Not sure there’s enough Dornish Red in King’s Landing to wash the memory of that catastrophe out of my mind.

  260. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    I assume Stevenson’s role on Dexter will be done this season so he will hopefully be available for a role on Thrones in Season 4. If not Victarion maybe Mace Tyrell or Randall Tarly (if they do not appear this season), although I picture other actors in those two roles honestly.

  261. WildSeed
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Great actor, but I just can’t see him as Mance :/ A bit too old in my opinion.

    I just hope they have asked him to grow a beard, like he’s looking here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/content/images/2007/03/22/ciaran396_396x222.jpg

    I would have to agree on all points.

  262. WildSeed
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    YvyB:
    Oh well for those of us who wanted Fassbender , they did both play the same part once in Jane Eyre lol.

    Except eons between versions and both expertly done.

  263. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Yellow Dog,

    I had hopes for Political Animals, but that was a mess all around!
    Hinds accent was bad, but passable for me if everything and everyone else in the production was good. Alas, there was not much to praise about that show.

  264. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    My Favorite is still 2006 Toby Stevens tho… hmmmm.

  265. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t read any other comments to see what people think.

    This is fucking great. He plays sympathy and menace equally well.

    What a get. Fantastic.

  266. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Is there any red heads left… can i have Toby Stevens please? :0)

  267. Malcatraz
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    I love him as an actor, LOVED his work on Rome, and I think he would have made an amazing Stannis, but I’m not sure I agree with this casting. I think of Mance as funny, dark, and charming, and Ciaran is more of a dour, gravitas guy.

  268. Mimsy
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 3:46 pm | Permalink
    Al Swearengen,

    Just imagine this scene taking place on a ship!

    Psh! That’s a day at the market in Westeros. ;-)

  269. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    Jon Connington or “Griff” is a redhead – a greying redhead at least. Stephens is a bit young for him to have been a good friend of Rhaegar’s though maybe.

    Mero the Titan’s Bastard is a redhead, but he should appear this year I think and may already be cast….

    I’m pretty sure there are others, but none jump into my mind right now….

  270. Cat
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Yes Yes Yes. Perfect….Purefoy as the Red Viper. Since the role is compact so to speak, he should be able to fit it into his busy schedule.

  271. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Malcatraz,

    I think of Hinds that way too honestly, but I have seen enough roles from him I know he can become Mance… No worries here.

    I orignally really liked Hinds as Thoros of Myr for the reasons you mentioned. A bit dour, has that gravitas that a man who knows his god is looking out for him might have. Plus Hinds has that loose flesh around his face and neck that latterday Thoros is described as having due to being a fat man that has greatly shrunk in girth.

    Not disparaging Paul Kaye at all. He should be something different as Thoros, but quite good I imagine.

  272. Set Dingleberry
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Malcatraz,

    Caesar was definitely charming in Rome at least to those around him, even if it was a smarmy condescending charm, i think you’re selling Hinds short, the guy has a lot of range, he’ll exhibit the necessary charisma required to play Mance

  273. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Graham McTavish as Randyll Tarly! Told his agent about GoT, and he was very interested in getting McTavish on the show. He even asked me to send him a list of character he would fit!

  274. Hi-Fi
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    you always have the best suggestions!

    That said, I’m not sure that Tarly and even Mace Tyrell are big enough roles to land these actors. They can always beef them up in the show, though!

  275. Macha
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    F*** ME. I’M GONNA LOSE MY SHIT!
    Ciaran Hinds is probably one of my top 5 favourite actors, this is insane, this cast is really shaping up as becoming my ultimate dreamcast. Ciaran Hinds AND Stephen Dillane sharing a scene together?! I can’t handle this. Where is that bottle of Arbor gold? This calls for a goddamn celebration!

  276. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Good call but with working on The Hobbit trilogy that’s a tricky schedule.

  277. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Clearly with the Rome theme going today our Griff should be Kevin McKidd !

  278. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    No I’m done finished ADWD last year when it came out. Busy with the reread, just started ASoS

  279. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    He’s in NZ until August and doing reshoots in early 2013 (according to his agent).

    Funnily enough he was also in Rome!

  280. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    He is one of the actors I will have on my list for Tarly!
    Right now I have him, Mark Strong, Johnny Harris and Brian F O’Byrne, but I would still love Peter Mullan to be on Thrones and I thnk he could do a great Randyll Tarly (albeit a bit older)!

    Another actor I thought of after watching Robin Hood (he played sir Robert Loxley) was Douglas Hodge. He has a connection to Nina Gold having just done “Coup” that was cast by her…. Plus, he has a similar look to Sam (or John Bradley) although of course that is not needed and almost goes against how Sam is described honestly.

  281. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Haha really ?? Must have been one of the gang members.

  282. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Yea, he was in 2 episodes. Not a big role.

  283. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Cat:
    Yes Yes Yes.Perfect….Purefoy as the Red Viper.Since the role is compact so to speak, he should be able to fit it into his busy schedule.

    No. Just no.

  284. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Yes, I’ll have mark Strong as well please :0) Thank you .

  285. Topdecker577
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    But can he sing?

  286. Dave Brownell
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    NPO,

    The man that played Mark Antony would be PERFECT as the Crow’s Eye, Euron Greyjoy’s brother!!!! PERFECT i tell ya!! with an eye-patch and that lazy grin, he’d nail the part too i believe

  287. Superdeluxe
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Ciaran might have to ‘act’ then.

    Malcatraz:
    I love him as an actor, LOVED his work on Rome, and I think he would have made an amazing Stannis, but I’m not sure I agree with this casting. I think of Mance as funny, dark, and charming, and Ciaran is more of a dour, gravitas guy.

  288. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Topdecker577,

    Lex posted a great YouTube of Hinds singing from Phantom of the Opera.
    http://youtu.be/N2iU8XGaEx8

    Definitely can carry a tune well enough to play Mance.

  289. Silverjaime
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    OMG!! Fantastic! Can’t wait to see what he makes of the character. I met him after a play(the Birds) in the Gate Theatre in Dublin, and he was very friendly and talkative.
    Brilliant!

  290. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Dave Brownell,

    Haha Euron Greyjoy is the Croweye. You’re thinking of Victorian.
    On the other side though the guy your thinking of is James Purefoy and several commenters here are also fans ofhim as Crowseye. One guy even posted a side by side to show the similarities between the two. Check it out.

  291. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Silverjaime,

    That must have been fun! XD
    He may play the the dark and cynical most of the time, but the behind the scenes stuff with him that I’ve seen he is charming, witty and quite fun!

  292. Freoduwebbe
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Yes. He was in phantom of the opera as one of the owners. As comic relief.

    The Young Wolf:
    Can Ciaran sing?

  293. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    I’m just happy with this announcment!
    Two days ago I was thinking enough time had passed since West turned down the role… and here comes Hinds! XD

    Now Janet McTeer as Maege Mormont! XD
    I kid… I’m sure Lady Mormont will be an extra again, but having just watched Damages and been visually reminded of McTeer’s stature… I had to say it. XD

  294. Silverjaime
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    Great minds think alike. This is one of the best castings so far!

  295. Brightroar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Can he sing!!?

  296. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    I’m just happy with this announcment!
    Two days ago I was thinking enough time had passed since West turned down the role… and here comes Hinds! XD

    I’m sure Lady Mormont will be an extra again

    Ah I hope not, I love to see The She Bear cast.

  297. Brightroar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Hope they stay true to Jon’s story in the third book. Like him mistaking styr for mance and tormund making fun of him

  298. Ser Marcus
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Excellent news!!! Series 3 gets better and better and it’s not even started yet!!

  299. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    She was already seen played by an unnamed extra in Episode 1×08 The Pointy End in Season 1, or at least the woman is assumed to be Maege Mormont.

    Who knows though, in the aftermath of the Red Wedding with so many of Stark’s bannermen being held prisoner we may get to see some of them in new scenes not based on any POV from the books…..

  300. NYI
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Permalink
  301. NYI
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Wait what? That was Hinds??? I never noticed.

  302. Rygar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    What’s great about this casting is that CH has an amazing PRESENCE when he’s on the screen. He wont even have to talk much. He is going to shine as Mance and I can not wait to see him with Kit. I think that Kits acting got better in S2 and I attribute a lot of that to the great chemistry he had with Rose. Working with someone like CH will only improve his own acting. Should be tastey.

  303. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,
    Eww no! Ha ha! Any ways they did that with Beric and Shereen so I’m not worried :)

  304. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    The face is very similar to Hinds to be sure. I thought the same thing… Another one that Amok got right.

    I was never really solid on Mance’s age just like many other characters in ASOIAF honestly. I leaned towards 45-50, but he could really have been younger or older. I don’t think 60 is too old at all.

  305. Ivan Grozny
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    I was expecting them to cast Ciaran Hinds as someone at some point. I just have this gut feeling that we’ll be seeing familiar faces from more HBO series crop up as time goes by. The Wire, Rome…take your pick.

    I never considered the idea of him playing Mance, though. Sort of took me by surprise. Nevertheless, he’s an awesome actor and Nina Gold hasn’t let us down yet, so looking forward to it!

  306. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    I know. XD
    I always picture Maege more like this great fan art. McTeer in Into the Storm as Clemmie Churchhill looked fairly similar to how I pictured the She Bear. Although let’s be honest, it is a very small role and may not be cast at all.

    Oh well, it’s fun to imagine every role in ASOIAF no matter how small!

  307. KG
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Did any of you actually read the books? Mance has long gray/graying hair.

  308. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    That pic is AMAZING! Yeh I like her, she’s been in a lot of period drama over here. But if feel she may be a bit dainty for my taste I’m looking for a female Cosmo :D
    Mind you she’s another Geordie, so she can certainly do the accent !

  309. WildSeed
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    darquemode,

    Graham McTavish as Randyll Tarly! Told his agent about GoT, and he was very interested in getting McTavish on the show. He even asked me to send him a list of character he would fit!

    As Samwell’s dad…..?

  310. MATTHEW
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: Alan, Yes, I’ll be disappointed if the Martells wind up being just dark Italian in looks. The show has the opportunity to go with a range of middle-eastern or south Asian actors, and I think they should use the chance.Om Puri is my pick for Doran Martell. I’m fine with Siddig as Oberyn, though there are a lot of other actors I would like to see in the part too.

    Irrfan Khan from “In Treatment” (HBO connection!) and Slumdog millionaire needs to be Doran Martell.

    It is known :-)

  311. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Yup! McTavish fits the description given in the book.

  312. andrea
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    you made me laugh. I tried to write a calm/cool comment but what you wrote is kinda what I felt. I´m really amazed with this cast. I hope the show deserves it.

  313. Arthur
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Totally off topic…

    New trailer for Sly vs Drogo (Jason Momoa) movie is out called ‘Bullet to the Head’. I must say seeing Jason wield that axe around gave me chills. Drogo lives!!! Check it out =]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDiaXZiIJOQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  314. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    I like that quite a bit, I may have to add him to my list!
    He was great in In Treatment and Slumdog.

    I have a actor on my list that looks somewhat similar, David Dennis. I think he is South African, but I have seen him in Kidnap and Ransom and Strike Back (both filmed in South Africa I think) playing more MiddleEastern roles.

  315. phoenix_torns
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Not what I images but I love Ciaran!

    AND he continues my “saw a movie with them in at at TIFF” trend. (The Debt)

  316. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Did you think of any other roles for his agent?
    I know we discussed it before , but neither of us came up with any that jumped out at us other than Randyll Tarly. Maybe Archibald Yronwood in a later season assuming they bring Yronwood along with Quentyn Martell in the series.

  317. Ash
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Everyone is older on tv series though guys, eddard was 35 in books but clearly 45 on tv, it’s just what we have to live with. I’m sure this guy will b great. Need val now!

  318. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Wonder how many more people are going to ask if he can sing?
    Read the friggen comments people!

  319. YvyB
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Oh my god ! I turned to my partner and said I’m going to put ” can you read?” lol

  320. Brightroar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Season 3, mance has finally been cast. But there’s still People id like to see, Axell Florent, Vargo Hoat,Daario Naharis, Mace Tyrell, wishful think for Garlan. And even more wishful thinking for a Kettleblack

  321. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I did send some suggestions. On the top of my head I suggested Randyll Tarly, Victarion Greyjoy and Donal Noye.

  322. House Snow
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Man am I the only one who doesn’t care what book Mance was like and is totally OK with Hines making him the biggest badass on the show. I feel the same way I did about Stannis, its fine that GRRM gave him him this complex anti-hero quallities but give me the guy who is first to the beach first up the wall. Same goes for Mance give me a guy who is so bad ass even the wildlings follow him, not some charasmatic but kinda wimpy bard.

  323. Alan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Ciaran Hinds is actually who I think of when I think of Doran Martell, but I’d actually prefer it to be actual olive-skinned people.

    This show keeps stockpiling great actors.

    And I’m not sure, but I think he can sing. Anyone know?

  324. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Oh, and darq, what do you think of Robert Sheehan as Satin? He fits the description and is a great actor! Though I’m not sure if he would accept a small role like that (depends on if they expand it or not).

  325. Brightroar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 7:57 pm | Permalink

    And they have to cast lem, lemoncloak.

  326. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    Facepalm! Check above!

  327. darquemode
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    I’m not a huge Sheehan fan like many on here, but I think he certainly fits the image of a young man that once was a brothel worker now in the NW! His portayal of BJ in the Red Riding Trilogy stands out to me as his best work and coincidentally he played a rent boy.

    OF course curly haired youngish actors are not hard to come by if they keep the role of Satin small like in the books. If they beef it up a bit I could see someone like Sheehan taking the part though!

    Re: McTavish..
    It’s odd, I see him as a similar actor to Ray Stevenson and while I had thought of Stevenson as both Noye and Victarion (as well as Tarly at one point) I never thought of McTavish as as either. He would be pretty god as any of the three though I think you’re spot on.

  328. Alan
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Alan,

    Facepalm! Check above!

    Oh no, I know. My comment was sarcastic. I posted it before I read your comment, but after I had the 75 other comments asking if he could sing.

  329. Padraig O'Faolain
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    hes a wildling. im pretty sure he’ll have a beard lol

  330. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Padraig O’Faolain,

    I hope so, but in the book he does not.

    The majority of Hind’s roles are beardless, so it would be nice to see him with one :)

  331. Carne
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Just wishful thinking on my part. Satin is one of those characters they can easily drop. There’s already so many NW members! Jon, Sam, Pyp, Grenn, Edd and so on. Adding Satin is probably not needed.

    There is indeed something similar with Stevenson and McTavish. Both in looks and roles.

  332. novichaso
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    woooooooooo!!!!!!! hell do just fine!! wait till he gets on set!! youll see!!

  333. The Young Wolf
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    I can easily see that Mctavish guy as Randyll Tarly.

  334. Arithine
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    I seem to be one of the only ones who viewed Mance as a bit older :-/ did I miss something in the books?

    Great casting though. I wonder who they’re going to do the giants.

  335. Omar Brown
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    The only actor that was so different it took me back was Asha/Yara, she is good just very different from her book character.

    The rest has all been gravy, this guy should be GREAT! If I were a Wildling I would follow this man!

    Oh and again:
    http://winteriscomingfans.activeboard.com/

    Join us, the maiden pools are fine!

  336. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    The only actor that was so different it took me back was Asha/Yara, she is good just very different from her book character.

    The rest has all been gravy, this guy should be GREAT! If I were a Wildling I would follow this man!

    Oh and again:
    http://winteriscomingfans.activeboard.com/

    Join us, the maiden pools are fine!

    A woman agrees with you Omar! Also registered on your forum but am having trouble signing in (probably due to the differences in punctuation allowed for ID names, like here I have an apostrophe in my name, but on Twitter it’s @MrsH_ghar since you can’t use an apostrophe). I cannot find the “contact” link on your forum either! AARRGH, can’t even read the posts! Would you PM me on Twitter please @MrsH_ghar? I did not receive the registration email, perhaps I mis-punctuated my email name. AARRGGH. This woman is not as tech-savvy as she wishes to be. : – (

  337. Brightroar
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    I want Lem Lemoncloak

  338. Omar Brown
    Posted August 17, 2012 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Msgd you on Twitter, I’ll try and help you register!

  339. Malcatraz
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Superdeluxe,

    Dan? Is that you?

  340. mags giantsbabe
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    I just woke up, got onto the site, saw this and went: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
    Now all we need is giants and mammoths beyond the wall and we’re sorted. Oh and a Ghost dream maybe (:

  341. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Msgd you on Twitter, I’ll try and help you register!

    : – )

  342. Zack
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    This inspired me to go back and rewatch Rome, and I am just in love with the show all over again. Of course Hinds is wonderful. Tobias Menzies, our Edmure, is Brutus and I am somewhat sad I can’t look forward to Mance and Edmure scenes together.

  343. Lex
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    Zack:
    This inspired me to go back and rewatch Rome, and I am just in love with the show all over again. Of course Hinds is wonderful. Tobias Menzies, our Edmure, is Brutus and I am somewhat sad I can’t look forward to Mance and Edmure scenes together.

    I just re-watched Rome a few months ago (3rd viewing), and I already want to watch it again. One of my all time favourites (along with Deadwood and the Sopranos).

    Anyone here who still hasn’t watched Rome should really give it a chance. It takes 3 or 4 episodes before it gets really good (kind of like GOT and most other HBO shows), but it’s worth it. Great performances, compelling storylines, and similar to GOT in a lot a ways.

  344. Carne
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    mags giantsbabe,

    I hope we get mammoths and giants! D&D teased it in an issue of Empire Magazine.
    The way they could do this the cheapest way is:

    Option 1: Dress up an actual elephant (they’re usually trained, unlike bears), put it infront of a green screen (like they did with wolves), insert into scene.

    Option 2: Create a 3D mammoth and save some money on detailed textures by slightly obscuring it with falling snow etc.

    As for the giants, this is even easier (compared to CG): Here you can just use prosthetic make up on a bulky actor, place him in front of a green screen and insert into scene. Example of how they did it in Harry Potter.

  345. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    Lex,

    The only thing I dislike about Rome was the overfilled Season 2 where they crammed in too much story and time in too few episodes. If Rome had a proper Season 2 and then a Season 3 it would be almost a perfect series to me!

    Still a very good series, but I always am a little disappointed with the last half of Season 2 in particular.

  346. Lex
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 1:10 am | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Lex,

    The only thing I dislike about Rome was the overfilled Season 2 where they crammed in too much story and time in too few episodes. If Rome had aproper Season 2 and then a Season 3 it would be almost a perfect series to me!

    Still a very good series, but I always am a little disappointed with the last half of Season 2 in particular.

    I used to feel the same, but I enjoyed Season 2 a lot more on my recent viewing. The time jumping towards the end is definitely jarring (especially since Season 2 only has 10 episodes) but they still did a great job with the scenes they showed.

    I prefer Season 1 (with Ciaran Hinds), it’s a must-watch… but Season 2 is better than I originally remembered.

  347. Winturd
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 1:45 am | Permalink

    If they had started shooting in July.. and the season finale of season 2 was on June 4.. [so D&D spent only less than a month writing.. about 2days per episode] does that mean that season 3 will be as poorly written as season 2? Season 1 was brilliant but I have always thought that season 2 was so flawed because it was too rushed whereas they had a lot of time to write and prepare season 1.. I don’t mind waiting an extra 6 months between seasons if it means better writing.. plus recasting roles is always a sign of the downfall of a series.. I do not understand why they did not make some of the actors that left sign contracts requiring them to return in later seasons [LOST also had a very large cast as well.. and even the minor characters used to come back season to season].. I am sure D&D were aware that Maestor Aemon and the greatjon have roles in season 3.. why not require them to return later in season 3? Imagine Maestor Aemon being recast.. that would just look so bad..
    Also, I hate it when writers assume that the general public [esp the non-readers] are retarded… They better not include some scenes in season 3 that contribute nothing to the story and whose only function would be to “remind the ‘retarded audience’ that Lysa Arryn still exists”…

  348. The Lightning Lord
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:03 am | Permalink

    Awesome!!! Ciaran Hands is one of my favorite actors, a truly underrated gem of an actor.

  349. Chickenduck
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:05 am | Permalink

    Winturd:
    LOST also had a very large cast as well.. and even the minor characters used to come back season to season.

    Two things wrong with that comparison. First, LOST definitely did have problems when actors didn’t or couldn’t come back after a season. Richard Alpert was almost written out of the show, until conveniently his oth show Cane was cancelled and the actor could return. Meaning the character had spent a while being “elsewhere.”

    Secondly, certain characters (eg. Mr Eko) were written out because actors wanted to leave – in Eko’s case he just didn’t want to live in Hawaii anymore. Certain parts of Ben’s storyline were originally meant to happen Eko in later seasons. Because D&D are running a show based on novels, they have waaaaaaaay less freedom than other shows to just change storylines based on actor schedules (although they still do it if they need to).

    Don’t assume that other big-budget shows don’t have casting problems… You don’t hear about them if you don’t know what was originally planned to happen.

  350. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:05 am | Permalink

    Winturd,

    Feel better? Also, do you really think they only started writing the day of the season finale? They wrapped filming of season 2 in October/November of last year. They were working on scripts for season 3 long before season 2 even aired. I do agree that the show could benefit from more time, but we know that will never happen. Another thing to consider is that they weren’t sure how well the show would be received or if there would even be a season 2. I’m fairly confident that they knew there would be a season 3 after the success of season 1. Hopefully knowing that allowed them to start production earlier and afforded them a little extra time.

  351. Chickenduck
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:14 am | Permalink

    Winturd:
    If they had started shooting in July.. and the season finale of season 2 was on June 4.. [so D&D spent only less than a month writing.. about 2days per episode] does that mean that season 3 will be as poorly written as season 2?

    Geez, I don’t want to be cruel, but you’ve made some pretty daft assumptions in this statement.

    Firstly, what on Earth makes you think they wait for the finale to air before writing the next season?!!!!!! They’ve been writing for months! GRRM was writing his episode months before that. The writing for the entire third season would have been finished well before the S2 finale aired.

    Secondly, are you seriously not aware that TV series are written by teams of writers, and there will be numerous episodes being written simultaneously by different people?!

    How could you possible think that D&D were writing an entire series in a month, spending 2 days on each ep, and able to start filming straight away?

  352. Odessa Ash
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    loved Rome! this guy will be great

  353. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:22 am | Permalink

    Winturd,

    I am one of the people that thought Season 2 had its flaws too…..

    I’m not sure your next assumption is correct though. I think D&D have worked on scripts for this season long before last season ended. Not to mention they are not the only writers….

    I do agree on the supporting cast though. I can understand some not being under contract, but more of the roles that D&D knew would be ongoing recurring supporting cast for multiple seasons should have been locked down for however many seasons each role required.

    Your last point I have mixed feelings on I guess. I think some non-POV scenes are about more than JUST reminding people certain characters exist and are still in play. There is a lot going on around Westeros that is not in the books. Some events are mentioned and others are not, but since each character has a full life many, many scenes that are not in the books should be in the TV series. However, I do think D&D try to make GOT more palatable to a larger audience and because of that lose some of the nuance that makes ASOIAF so brilliant.

    In regards to Lysa in specific…. WE know Littlefinger went to Lysa around this time in the books , but we did not read about it. I don’t have an issue having scenes in the series that were events that happened away from the POVs in the books. I just hope it is better than last season’s Robb and Talisa love story. We knew it happened in the book, but the series showed something much different and far less effective than what was in the book. Moreover, they basically changed the entire history of Robb and Jeyne. It may yet pay off in Season 3 or 4. I hope so, but as it stands now that plot was completely unneeded and poorly handled to me.

    Well I hope Season 3 is better for you… and better for me… and great for everyone!

  354. Cary
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    Just checked the board after being gone for a few days. This is wonderful casting! Who’d have thought?

  355. Cary
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    The Rome renunion will continue in season 5 with James Purefoy as Euron and Ray Stevenson as Victarion :-D

    Totally :D

  356. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:26 am | Permalink

    Cary,

    I know right?! XD

    Very surprising to me at least. I guess I suspected Hinds would be unavailable for this season. Although thinking about it I guess his currently airing project (Political Animals) is a limited run series that has completed filming.

    I’m over the moon about the casting of a fairly big named actor as Mance, an actor who fits the image I have of Mance, and an actor I like quite a bit! I was a bit worried that when Dominic West turned them down that HBO may have to settle. Getting Ciaran Hinds is certainly not settling! XD

  357. Dave
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:20 am | Permalink

    The book describes Mance to fit the same age as Hinds so I don’t get why people are saying they pictured him younger :S he had greyish hair ffs.

  358. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    Alan:

    And I’m not sure, but I think he can sing.Anyone know?

    Alan, that cracked me up! Whether you ment it or not :D

  359. Macha
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    andrea: you made me laugh. I tried to write a calm/cool comment but what you wrote is kinda what I felt.

    *high-five* And I really tried to tone it down. :) My initial comment would have been all CAPS and probably three paragraphs of exclamation marks. I’m still not over it.

  360. Liam
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    damn I wanted Ron Perlman!

  361. Gez
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    Thiago Waldhelm,

    Please do watch Rome, especially the first season – its wonderful! You’ll enjoy it.

  362. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 7:19 am | Permalink

    But can he sing ;)

  363. Blackfish Blues
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 7:24 am | Permalink

    (hasn’t even read the above 300+ comments)
    WOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  364. Gez
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    This is absolutely brilliant news. He was perfect as Caesar in Rome. Very surprising casting but I couldnt be happier.

  365. Eleanor
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    OH HELL YEAH.

  366. Blood
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    While Mance’s age is never made explicit Hinds does seem too old to be beating Jon at sword practice and surprising him with his strength. That said he is a terrific actor and if show Mance is a little different than book Mance it wouldn’t be the first character like that that turns out fine.

  367. Brightroar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    Wishful thinking for the casting of the Lord of starfall, Edric Dayne,

  368. Dan
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Blood,

    But… you got that all wrong, of course if you are talking about the scene from ADWD. Jon thinks he fights with Rattleshirt, so how that fight would look like depends on actor that will be chosen to play Rattleshirt. If they choose to show him as they did in season 2 (no face visible), they can probably use any strong extra/stunt. :P

  369. Lord Ned's Head
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    While he’s not who i would have pictured for mance, I can say that I’m very exicted about this casting. Ciaran Hinds did such a marvelous job in Rome, that I would be ok with him cast as Arya!

  370. Blood
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 9:55 am | Permalink

    Dan,

    I know that. My point is that a 64?, maybe, year old Mance would be unlikely to beat Jon in a fight. Whoever “plays” him in that scene or if the scene is even in when they get there is not relevant. But like I said it doesn’t matter if show Mance is a little different than he is in the books.

  371. jkb
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    well, i never created a clear image of mance in my head so the guy being older is not a issue for me. and since i liked him on ‘rome’ a lot, this casting gets a big yay! from me.

  372. Jill
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck: Geez, I don’t want to be cruel, but you’ve made some pretty daft assumptions in this statement.

    Firstly, what on Earth makes you think they wait for the finale to air before writing the next season?!!!!!!They’ve been writing for months!GRRM was writing his episode months before that.The writing for the entire third season would have been finished well before the S2 finale aired.

    Secondly, are you seriously not aware that TV series are written by teams of writers, and there will be numerous episodes being written simultaneously by different people?!

    How could you possible think that D&D were writing an entire series in a month, spending 2 days on each ep, and able to start filming straight away?

    Not to mention that everything doesn’t tape at once, so they have time to flesh out the details while filming earlier scenes/episodes. Just like earlier episodes are probably being edited while later scenes are still filming. I would guess the scheduling looks more like a spiderweb than a straight line.

  373. Ours is the Fury
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    I don’t see his age being an issue re: fighting ability. Sixty-something Barristan the Bold is one of the best fighters in Westeros, and he could cut through the Kingsguard like carving a cake. :)

  374. HouseLark
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    Well I was hoping for Ken Jeong but I guess Hinds will do.

  375. Arthur
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Around what time will we start seeing small clips of the show? What time last year were these released? I’m dieing to see what Meera looks like in her green leather with her frogspear. I know the filled out Direwolves and Bigger flying dragons won’t be seen till a few weeks before the first episode airs because CGI and stuff but I hope we get new character profiles by mid winter =]

  376. TheAmir
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Eh, he’s a great actor but not my first pick. I would liked him as Doran Martell though.

    But seriously, I never cared about Mance that much anyway.

    Who’s Vargo? That’s what I’m wondering.

  377. Carne
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Probably character stills before videos.

  378. Rygar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    This would be perfect. I would also be all for D&D starying from the source material in order to give these two more scenes. Their talent would be wasted on the show if they were to only be in the few scenes that they are in the books.

    Cary: Totally :D

  379. Claudiu Gherganu
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Winturd,

    I love how people can be so stupid that they have no idea how shows are written the prime example being you , The season 2 scripts were written a year before they were aired genius ! Before you spew shit like the rest of book purists at least do a little research so you don’t embarrase yourself .

  380. Rygar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Why are you always so mean to people?This is a serious question.
    Claudiu Gherganu,
    My last post was about Ray Stevenson and Purefoy as Vic and Euron. Not sure why it didnt paste when I quoted.

  381. Winturd
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Claudiu Gherganu,

    EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE EMBARRASE

  382. Wastrel
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Blood:

    I know that. My point is that a 64?, maybe, year old Mance would be unlikely to beat Jon in a fight. Whoever “plays” him in that scene or if the scene is even in when they get there is not relevant. But like I said it doesn’t matter if show Mance is a little different than he is in the books.

    He’s, what, six years older than Sean Bean? Not that much.

    Plus, as I say, Hinds is tall – 6-1 or 6-2, compared to Bean at 5-10. And big – not musclebound, but a wide frame. And yes, I think he’s put on a bit of weight, unsurprisingly, but with the right costume I think he’d look a very powerful man. [He loomed over everyone in Tinker Tailor pretty intimidatingly, although admittedly most of the other actors were on the small side]

    So Mance vs Jon, Mance will be four inches taller, and no beanpole, probably costumed to look powerful, vs John looking pretty ragged. Plus Hinds looks ruthless and weather-bitten, whereas Jon is fresh-faced and naive-looking. I don’t think the audience will struggle to see Mance as a potential warrior.

    An example: James Cosmo is a similar size to Ciaran Hinds, and several years older. But I wouldn’t find it hard to believe the Old Bear taking Jon in a fight.

  383. Al Swearengen
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Someone should contact James Purefoy’s agent and get him to campaign for the role of Euron.

    They should also contact Oded Fehr’s agent to campaign for The Red Viper.

  384. Dave Brownell
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Yes thank you, i worked 10hours yesterday at work and wasnt thinking straight lool. I didnt picture him as Victarion, but the brother that gets the seafome throne after theon’s father died lol. The dude with the eyepatch

  385. Rygar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Sorry i cant seem to get the “reply” and “quote” functions to work correctly using my phone. Winturd, that guy always seems to pick on others of a different opinion.

  386. hashblower420
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Wow, so many haters. “He’s too old!” all of the characters have been aged up, get over it. And if he’s good enough to play Julius Fucking Caesar he’s good enough to play Mance Rayder. yeesh.

  387. DARKSTARK
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Amazing casting news as usual. Anyone who has seen ROME knows what I mean. Who else could consolidate the power of the free folk besides gaius Julius ceasar himself! Haha. Now we need purfoy as red viper or crows eye, Stevenson as victarion, mckidd as connington, and possibly the kid who played young octavian as aegon?? That kid was great. Wonder how old he is now, what he looks like and if he’s still acting..

  388. tysnow
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I am thinking that Nina will cast Anglo-Indians in the Dornish roles. There are numerous, talented actors in this ethnic category, many residing in the UK or India (Bollywood). Irfan Khan being one, then there is Freido Pinto or Parminder Nagra actress from Bend It Like Beckham (My personal fav), or a newcomer like Aruna Shields, there is obviously a wealth of Indian talent that Ms. Gold can cast as the Martell clan, and the availability to select from hundreds of young minor actresses for the Sand Snakes.

  389. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I don’t pay much heed to the age or appearance of book vs screen characters, except in the instances where it is integral to their personalities (Brienne has to be big and tall, Tyrion a dwarf, etc). That said, I’m surprised to find out I always pictured Mance older than most people did. Younger than Jeor Mormont but deff. older than Benjen. I’m wondering now if I didn’t miss some line.

    Anywho, Ciarán Hinds is a wonderful actor and I am happy to have him on board. I was not expecting such a big name for Mance! The only thing that I wonder is about the veiled menace his eyes transmit to me. Perhaps they are going for a darker Mance? If he can turn that on and off, and go from unasuming charm to menace and back in a second, it’ll bring the house down. I do not worry about fighting scenes, I’m sure he’ll pull it off. And I join the club who hopes he gets a beard! Can’t imagine the wildings shaving too often… :)

    We can only judge an actor on a role once we’ve seen his performance, but I’m certainly looking forward to see what he’ll bring to the role.

  390. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    I don’t have an issue having scenes in the series that were events that happened away from the POVs in the books. I just hope it is better than last season’s Robb and Talisa love story. We knew it happened in the book, but the series showed something much different and far less effective than what was in the book. Moreover, they basically changed the entire history of Robb and Jeyne. It may yet pay off in Season 3 or 4. I hope so, but as it stands now that plot was completely unneeded and poorly handled to me.

    This. Couldn’t have said it better.

  391. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    tysnow:
    I am thinking that Nina will cast Anglo-Indians in the Dornish roles. There are numerous, talented actors in this ethnic category, many residing in the UK or India (Bollywood).

    I’ve always thought this too, even though that’ll mean I won’t get Amr Waked as the Red Viper. It makes a lot of sense.

  392. MATTHEW
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen: Someone should contact James Purefoy’s agent and get him to campaign for the role of Euron.They should also contact Oded Fehr’s agent to campaign for The Red Viper.

    No. James Purefoy should be banned from GoT. People need to stop suggesting him for every role, or we will have words.

    I have however taken your advice about emailing agents and emailed Irrfan Khan’s agent at Brillstein entertainment and eloquently petitioned him to encourage Mr. Khan to sign on for season 4 as Doran Martell (my preference) or Oberyn Martell.

    In fact, as chief fan in charge of casting suggestions, I a have made the executive decision that henceforth all Dornishmen and women should be of Desi extraction.

    Irrfan Khan can play Doran
    Parminder Nagra as Arianne
    Padma Lakshmi is a huge fan of GoT (I just made that up, btw) so she will do a 3-episode cameo as Obara Sand
    And How about Dev Patel as Quentyn!!!! He doesn’t look like he does in the book but he has the perfect attitude. Never mind that he has a million other projects going on.
    M.I.A. as Sallera/Alleras Sand

    I can’t decide who should be Oberyn, though, because casting as Irffan Khan as *both* brothers would be a distracting stunt, though I’m sure he has the chops to pull it off

  393. MATTHEW
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Tír Airgid: Amr Waked

    He has the perfect look!!!! I would even bend slightly on my all-Desi requirement for Dornishmen

  394. MATTHEW
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    The Rabbit: From Westeros.org:http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Entry/Two_More_for_S3_Ramon_Tikaram_Dan_Hildebrand_Join_Cast/

    Nice choices. Dan Hildebrand has that Ben-Kingsley-from-Sexy-Beast look to him, which would be perfect for an evil slaver.

    Ramon Tikaram has very exotic, intimidating features which will suit him well playing a brutal, foreign sellsword captain.

  395. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    That’s how I have been leaning too…
    Nina has worked with Aiysha Hart, Ameira Darwish and Caitlin Joseph all in the past year alone and all 3 of them would make for a great Arianne Martell or Nymeria Sand.

    The thing that will be interesting to me is to see how they cast the Sand Snakes and how much they tak into consideration their individual mother’s heritage. Tyrene is suppsoedly blonde and blue-eyed with fiar skin, Sarella has Summer Island heritage, Nymeria’s mom is from Volantis (is Talisa a Sand Snake? XD), and Obarra’s was an Old Town whore. Will all 4 of the older Sand Snakes look dramatically different or wil lthey cast more ethnically similar actresses?

    Speaking of Rome actors, how about actresses? Zuleikha Robinson (Gaia) as Obarra Sand? Indira Varma (Niobe) or Lyndsey Marshal (Cleopatra) as Ellaria Sand?

  396. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    :) And he’s a very good actor too.

  397. Rygar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Hey Al, they just booked Tim Discoll. I thought Dan Doherty fed him to Wu’s pigs? :)

  398. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW,

    Hildebrand very much reminds me of Kingsley in Sexy Beast! Wow!
    I liked him On Sons of Anarchy and Deadwood…. great addition.

    Tikaram I am not as familiar with honestly, but he has a great look to him!! I saw Kama Sutra so long ago and don’t recall his performance.

    Now we just need Daario and Mero!

  399. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Ha! XD
    I thought the very same thing!!!
    HBO connection strikes again.

  400. Macha
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    As much as I’d love Lyndsay Marshall in GoT, I’m not so sure Ellaria will be included in S4. Even if she might still be important to the plot in future books she doesn’t have that much to do in King’s Landing in S4, unless they decide to give Oberyn a few more scenes.

  401. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:07 pm | Permalink
  402. Rygar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    I’d be as giddy as a schoolgirl if they could land Titus Weaver in some cpacity.

    darquemode:
    Rygar,

    Ha! XD
    I thought the very same thing!!!
    HBO connection strikes again.

  403. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Ramon Tikaram ! That’s fab news. Loved him in Karma Sutra also he was in a british t.v. show called This Life . (1997) Loved that show. As an ironic side note there was also a character called Egg! :)

  404. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Ha! and Dan was in Soldier Soldier with our Bron! Aw I really wanted Robson Green to be Mance as well but hey ho !

  405. DARKSTARK
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Wow. Great point on Rome actresses for sand snakes…

  406. tysnow
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Will all 4 of the older Sand Snakes look dramatically different or wil lthey cast more ethnically similar actresses

    My thinking is that the Sand Snakes will be of the same ethnicity, because on a book page it is easier to describe their backgrounds and parentage while explaining their dissimilar appearance. The tele though creates the problem of bloated exposition, so by having the Snakes be of similar appearance, the writers don’t have to delve deeply into their back history.
    Your choices for Arianne are interesting, they are young upcomers of Indian descent I presume, much like Aruna Shields. I can see Nina going this route too, much like Emilia’s by giving exposure to a talented young Thespian to help her career. I still have a soft spot for Parminder Nargra though.

  407. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Macha,

    That’s very true…
    Ellaria mostly helps show who Oberyn is than has a specific role herself. I do like the light she casts on Oberyn though. The man shows up with his consort and asks about prostitutes and women before he passes the gate! XD

  408. Macha
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Dan Hildebrand was….Master Ignacio in DA:O?! ROFLMAO I’ve played that game too many times. This is pure win!

  409. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens:
    But can he sing ;)

    Ha ha ha ! Stop it!!!! :)

  410. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    I fear they will be all similar in ethnicity too. I really hope to see the Sand Snakes all look different. That is part of their charm to me I guess….

    Ther are certainly a lot of actresses of Indian heritage to chose from in the UK. I just chose those 3 since they will be in the upcoming Honour cast by nina Gold. I think Darwish is Egyptian, Hart and Joseph both have NearEastern or MiddleEastrn heritage, but I’m not sure what specifically honestly.

  411. Carne
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    So did HBO contact Westeros.org and ask if they wanted to announce two actors? Maybe the same thing will happen with this site?

  412. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Those 2 roles would have been perfect Froggy casting mysteries from GRRM… sigh.
    I miss the Froggy casting puzzles!

  413. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    I don’t see his age being an issue re: fighting ability. Sixty-something Barristan the Bold is one of the best fighters in Westeros, and he could cut through the Kingsguard like carving a cake. :)

    Experience matters in fighting, as the best fighters have strategy in mind and not just strength of body. Sort of like a game of chess, where you make one move in order to force your opponent to do something you want them to do so you can exploit the opening created. Also, Hinds is a bit taller than Harrington (if their imdb stats are accurate) and so there should be no problem expecting Mance to be a slightly stronger fighter than Jon at that point in time. Also Mance becomes another father figure to Jon in some ways, so it’s appropriate that he’s older. A woman is on the same page as you, Hinds should be great.

  414. alytheshebear
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Bryon Blofstein:
    With all this love for Rome cast members joining GOT, it would be great some how to get Polly Walker casted for something.She was amazing as Atia.

    Ciarán will be great as Mance.I already
    can picture him in scenes with Kit.

    Polly Walker for Maege Mormont!!!!!!!

  415. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    tysnow:
    darquemode,

    My thinking is that the Sand Snakes will be of the same ethnicity

    I for one would be saddened if that was the case. They ARE all different and I would like them portrayed as such :(
    Tho I can see your reasoning it would still bother me grately

  416. tysnow
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    It would bother me too, I liked that RV had so many daughters from different mistresses. A strong point from the books was how much they all loved and honored their father, being from differing backgrounds. Perhaps Nina will go this route, I for one would love it, but it might cause a migraine among viewers, trying to keep them all straight. This is why Ms. Gold probably will cast them as the same ethnicity.

  417. tysnow
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    I would be interesting if she casts those three as Sand Snakes, and I for one wouldn’t mind at all.

  418. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    I guess we’ll have to wait and see… no disrespect to you, but I hope in this, you’re wrong :)

  419. Diana Barreto
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Loved to learn Ciarán will be playing Mance!! He looks pretty much like the character image I had in my head while reading the Mance parts ont he books!!! =)

  420. Bird
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    Right series, wrong actor. Purefoy was the perfect Mance, c’mon..

  421. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    He works for me, too or Crow’s Eye.

  422. Saulo
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    Please do not complain, guys! He is an amazing actor.
    Plus: EVERYBODY here knows the next season is ALL about the Queen of Thorns.

  423. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    Did you see the pic that Darquemode put on side by side to a fantastic painting ? Oh my!

  424. The Greatjon
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Now all we need is Ian McShane

  425. WildSeed
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    MATTHEW: No. James Purefoy should be banned from GoT.People need to stop suggesting him for every role, or we will have words.

    I have however taken your advice about emailing agents and emailed Irrfan Khan’s agent at Brillstein entertainment and eloquently petitioned him to encourage Mr. Khan to sign on for season 4 as Doran Martell (my preference) or Oberyn Martell.

    In fact, as chief fan in charge of casting suggestions, I a have made the executive decision that henceforth all Dornishmen and women should be of Desi extraction.

    Irrfan Khan can play Doran
    Parminder Nagra as Arianne
    Padma Lakshmi is a huge fan of GoT (I just made that up, btw) so she will do a 3-episode cameo as Obara Sand
    And How about Dev Patel as Quentyn!!!! He doesn’t look like he does in the book but he has the perfect attitude. Never mind that he has a million other projects going on.
    M.I.A. as Sallera/Alleras Sand

    I can’t decide who should be Oberyn, though, because casting as Irffan Khan as *both* brothers would be a distracting stunt, though I’m sure he has the chops to pull it off

    I’m indifferent about Purefoy, but the list you provide is worthy of thought. I’m afraid
    Dev Patel already has a commitment with HBO’s Newsroom though. Irfan Khan may
    very well be a contender for prince Doran and has worked on HBO projects. He
    seems ageless ( elderly or young ) and could easily absorb this role. Hope he is a fan.
    What about Strong Belwas ?

  426. WildSeed
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Macha,

    That’s very true…
    Ellaria mostly helps show who Oberyn is than has a specific role herself. I do like the light she casts on Oberyn though. The man shows up with his consort and asks about prostitutes and women before he passes the gate! XD

    This is a point ( you got to before I ) that needs to be underscored. This makes for an
    impressive if thoughtful scene that may not need to to lengthy just well executed. I hope
    GoT doesn’t blow it. The prince will have other big moments so I hope the subtly done
    entrance here of them both includes a more than a brief glance of her.

  427. Alan
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    One thing to note about commitments is that some of these roles really aren’t very big.

    It’s not to say there can’t be scheduling conflicts; if the actor has a conflict, that’s that. Even someone with only a week of shooting can have a conflict. And I could see Nina & Co steering away from someone like Dev Patel simply because there are so many chances for FUTURE conflicts if they cast him in an ongoing role.

    That all said, how many weeks of shooting does a character like Quentyn or Arianne really have? It’s not an awful rule of thumb to put pace at a scene/day (longer for action, perhaps a bit shorter for pure dialogue in the same setting). Arianne or Quentyn may only shoot for 2 weeks.

  428. Alan
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed: This is a point ( you got to before I ) that needs to be underscored. This makes for an
    impressive if thoughtful scene that may not need to to lengthy just well executed. I hope
    GoT doesn’t blow it. The prince will have other big moments so I hope the subtly done
    entrance here of them both includes a more than a brief glance of her.

    While this is probably the best way to demonstrate this, casting and introducing a character is a lot of monetary and screentime cost to underscore this. Look at how they avoided Selyse — and she has had a much bigger role in future books than Ellaria.

    It’s all about trade-offs.

  429. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    I don’t think she should limit her choices simply to Indian actors. Any actors with olive skin and dark hair would work.

  430. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Also, am I the only one who doesn’t believe the show will cast most of the Sand Snakes? They could easily condense them into 1 or 2 characters. IMO. They weren’t that memorable for me while reading the books.

  431. Jamie
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    I did picture him slightly younger even though in the books he’s middle aged
    Michelle,

  432. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    This woman is hoping, with many others, that Strong Belwas will not be omitted from the show. That tiny bit of wit and wisdom he may bring could really help the season from becoming oppressively morbid. Belwas! Belwas!

  433. Mike Chair
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    TITUS PULLO IS WITH ME!

    ARE YOU?!

    ARE YOU WITH ME?!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PeN1k9AAMg&feature=related

  434. MATTHEW
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: This woman is hoping, with many others, that Strong Belwas will not be omitted from the show. That tiny bit of wit and wisdom he may bring could really help the season from becoming oppressively morbid. Belwas! Belwas!

    A woman can hope all she likes, but I’m pretty sure there will be no Belwas in Season 3.

    However, they could possibly introduce him in Season 4 as a freed fighter from the Meereenese pits.

  435. the goat
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Woot!!

    “Free folk don’t follow names, or little cloth animals sewn on a tunic,” the King-Beyond-the-Wall had told him. “They won’t dance for coins, they don’t care how your style yourself or what that chain of office means or who your grandsire was. They follow strength. They follow the man.”

  436. Joshua Taylor
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Also, am I the only one who doesn’t believe the show will cast most of the Sand Snakes? They could easily condense them into 1 or 2 characters.IMO.They weren’t that memorable for me while reading the books.

    I doubt HBO would deprive themselves of the opportunity to have 4 badass hotties that are in the actual books appear in the show.

  437. YvyB
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Thank you!!

  438. andrea
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    27-6? wow :(

  439. dobesol
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Omigosh I’m late, but yes! Great news!

  440. darquemode
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I personally liked all the Sand Snakes and they stuck in my mind, but I love the Dorne chapters.The older ones are all very indivdual in my mind and I love the concept of them being sent out to various regions to spy and/ or accomplish tasks.

    I even like the younger Sand Snakes.I giggle at the idea of a 8-year old running around the Water Gardens smashing fruit about with her morningstar as her older sisters create enough chaos to be called terrors of the pools! XD

  441. ThatsMyFury!
    Posted August 18, 2012 at 11:42 pm | Permalink

    AHHHHHHH

    WHAT

    YES

    FEELS

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  442. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    andrea,

    Don’t be too discouraged, we didn’t get a bonus point, you kept us almost scoreless the second half, it was your first game in the Championship and it was in SA. I think next week will be much closer. I also think you guys can take Australia. So cheer up!

  443. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,
    We’ll get better, I’m sure. But the good will is very touching :)

    andrea,

    Este equipo se está rearmando, y para mí le falta un líder experimentado como Contempomi, pero el roce con el antiguo 3 Naciones sólo nos puede beneficiar para ir armando y puliendo un mejor equipo. Cuanto más roce tengamos mejor. Llegado los mundiales, nuestro “cuco” no es Europa sino los ex-3 naciones . Y para vencer el miedo/respeto excesivo no hay nada mejor que enfrentarlo una y otra vez hasta que pierda el ribete de extraordinario y se convierta en un partido más. A la larga, estoy convencida de que va a ser muy bueno para los Pumas. Teneles fe! No sabía que también eras fana del rugby. A mí me encanta!!! :D

  444. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Tír Airgid,

    Well if I might add, everytime the Pumas play anybody other than the Boks I will be cheering my lungs out for them. I hate NZ and AUS

  445. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Thank you kindly! :) We’ll need all the support we can get we we play over there, since I don’t think there’ll be more than a handful of Argentines that can assist to the matches. We’re really excited to be part of this tournament and I’m sure it’ll help forge this not very seasoned team into something “bigger and stronger”.

  446. Grant Dick
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Cracking casting, and I can’t really see any problem with his age. As everyone should know, just because he’s 59 in real life doesn’t mean he can’t play a younger age on the show. The guy has acted along side Gary Oldman for god sake, surely that should put everyone’s mind at ease :).

  447. Wylie
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    The feeling from Australia is reciprical – we hate you too.

    Great to see the Pumas in the comp (I’m sure they are now everybody’s second favourite team) – it’s an exciting time for Southern Hemisphere rugby.

  448. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Wylie,

    Will say this, still hate you less than I do the Northern Hemisphere teams. Hahaha you guys got hammered this weekend!

  449. andrea
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Thanks Aegon, you´re really kind. I’m sure that we´ll get better with each game.

    Tír Airgid: Y para vencer el miedo/respeto excesivo no hay nada mejor que enfrentarlo una y otra vez hasta que pierda el ribete de extraordinario y se convierta en un partido más.

    Eso es muy cierto y claro que creo que este campeonato es un gran entrenamiento. No le prestaba demasiada atención pero ví los efectos que el rugby como juego de equipo produce en niños con problemas de conducta y así me enganché y ahora me gusta mucho :)

    Wylie: Great to see the Pumas in the comp (I’m sure they are now everybody’s second favourite team) – it’s an exciting time for Southern Hemisphere rugby

    Yes it is! more so if it comes from an Australian. Thanks and and…we’ll see how it goes?

  450. andrea
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Grant Dick: The guy has acted along side Gary Oldman for god sake, surely that should put everyone’s mind at ease :).

    or vice versa? Gary Oldman is younger and more famous but both are geniuses

  451. Wylie
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Yep – Southern Hemisphere pride! I loved watching the Cheetahs play this year, they were the most exciting team in Super Rugby.

    Alas you are right, the Wallabies are pretty painful to watch at the moment. It’s gonna be a painful season for us I fear.

  452. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Wylie,

    Well if it makes you feel better my provincial team the Bulls got raped by the bloody Cheetahs this weekend. Alas without our Springboks tis gonna be a long Currie Cup.

  453. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I am with this woman! Belwas, Season 3.

  454. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    I’m with you, too, Ray rocks!

  455. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Tír Airgid,

    Aegon no habla espanola. Pues German exalente. Es la verdad!

  456. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 19, 2012 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    YvyB,

    No, great Lady of the North, I have not seen it. Might you point me in the right direction?

  457. Deaddard
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    What happened to good ol’ Joe Campo?

  458. beewulf
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 2:15 am | Permalink

    th3wick3d1:
    christopher dickens,

    that would be good, but i imagined Purefoy for Euron Greyjoy.

    Fantastic choice for Euron!

    I own Season 1 of “Rome” and loved Purefoy as Antony, but Hinds is the bomb! I’m very happy.

  459. Sdotsmitty
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 3:35 am | Permalink

    Let me say I love the actor( he was great in Rome , Munich , and a bunch of other movies) but I must say not how I pictured mance at all! He has a very serious monotone way about him that I don’t feel will be vigorous , and charasmatic how I pictured mance. I also felt like he was younger, he might of been great for stannis but I’m not sure about mance. Hopefully I’m wrong . I also think this confirms that we will see purefoy at some point in the coming seasons. I believe that he will most likely be Euron…..he was born for that role ! Nina has lady-wood for those Rome actors..,,now if we could just get Titus poolo and Lucius vernes will be set!!!

  460. YvyB
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    I think it’s higher up on this thread… I’ll check :)

  461. YvyB
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 6:43 am | Permalink

    darquemode:
    Al Swearengen,

    I have had 3 actors in my mind for Euron , each reading randomly evolves into one of them…. James Purefoy, Mads Mikkelsen and Dominic West. The first 2 being my favorites honestly.

    Purefoy just IS Euron. Look at this side by side photo.

    There we go My Lady , you can see their name on the painting, I Googled , top notch! :)

  462. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 6:52 am | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    I may be wrong but it looks like you’re saying Aegon can’t speak Spanish cause he’s German, or something like that.

  463. YvyB
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    “it is known” ha ha ha

  464. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    The Spanish part was just a little exchange between me and my countrywoman Andrea after the Pumas defeat, that’s all. Wish I could speak German, but alas, I’m horrible at it. Even after living in Germany for about a year… I managed to understand a lot, even make a couple of convoluted, stunted sentences, but that was so long ago I fear I’ve forgotten even the little I “knew”.

    Aegon the Conqueror, I think she just meant to point out you wouldn’t understand the Spanish bit, but that your German was excellent. Mine, on the other hand, is attrocious. :(

  465. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Tír Airgid,

    You are correct, ser. I am a sun dial in a digital age and blogging is still somewhat of a challenge from time to time. Thank you for your assistance.

  466. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    YvyB,

    Someone bring me my fan, I’m gettin’ the vapors!

  467. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    I tried, and I emphasize tried, to say you don’t speak spanish but you do speak German.

  468. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark,

    Pass on the fan. I need it too! I was skeptical about having Purefoy on the show, but after that picture… How can I resist! Bring him on as Euron! I’m converted! :D

  469. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Tír Airgid,

    Me gusto mucho Purefoy. Es un hombre mas hermosa, y, “guapo” is el verbo correcto? Digame, por favor.

  470. Tír Airgid
    Posted August 20, 2012 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Jen@House Stark

    Top marks! :) I think you can say both: handsome/guapo and beautiful /hermoso(the o is because he’s male). So the amended sentence would be: “Me gusta mucho Purefoy. Es un hombre muy hermoso y guapo.”

  471. Jordan Healey
    Posted August 21, 2012 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Hieronymus: Ivanhoe

    100%

    He was good in Rome, but he was absolutely fantastic in Ivanhoe.

  472. Jen@House Stark
    Posted August 21, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Tír Airgid,

    I am so rusty! I speak it on the Saturdays that I work with latino people, plus my brother-in-law is latino, so me gusto mucho español. Pero, writing it is muy dificil de ves en quando!

  473. The Sand Snake
    Posted August 21, 2012 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

    Wow he is great I LOVE him!!! Rome was such an awesome show, I still think randomly ab what a bad ass Julius Casear he was. “this is NOT a game.”

    On another note I found this randomly on YouTube just now
    Check out this video on YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpSDSgChsaI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    Sent from my iPhone

  474. The Sand Snake
    Posted August 22, 2012 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    I also just remembered he played the Phantom in phantom of the opera!!! So we know he can sing!!! I have faith in him to bring the lighter side of Mance out as well, he’s great. Couldn’t be happier w this casting

  475. The Sand Snake
    Posted August 22, 2012 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    This makes me think that the guy who played Marc Antony in Rome would be awesome to see in GoT. He was Great at that role. He would be a great Red Viper of Dorne if he got a little bit more of a tan to have olive skin. He sure looked pretty good in robes and ropes in Rome :)

  476. Cary Storm
    Posted August 22, 2012 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    The Sand Snake:
    This makes me think that the guy who played Marc Antony in Rome would be awesome to see in GoT. He was Great at that role.He would be a great Red Viper of Dorne if he got a little bit more of a tan to have olive skin. He sure looked pretty good in robes and ropes in Rome :)

    We’ve already got him (James Purefoy) pegged as Euron Greyjoy!

  477. The Sand Snake
    Posted August 22, 2012 at 6:45 am | Permalink

    Oh! Ha ha. I think I’d rather see him as Oberon myself

  478. msd
    Posted August 22, 2012 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    Fabulous actor! I’ve been a big fan of his since I saw Persuasion many years ago and he’s been great in everything I’ve seen him in since then.

  479. tysnow
    Posted August 22, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Just watched him in Eclipse, good movie, pretty scary and moving in parts. The film is only 2 years old, and he could pass for a man in his mid 40′s easily.

  480. Prettysilentone
    Posted August 26, 2012 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    KatieJo,

    I am very disappointed with this casting. He is not at all what I saw. I had thought of Dominic West as well. He would have been absolutely perfect (behind an absolutely impossible Viggo Mortensen) I really don’t think this choice will ever sit well with me. Though he is a fantastic actor, there is no way to naturally cover up his age and change his aura to the extent that I would need to make this casting choice workable.

    On another note: Will there be no Strong Belwas? Is not going to be on the TV version?

  481. Fra Nco
    Posted January 15, 2013 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    If they changed themselves, it would fit a lot better!!!! Euron is rude, lost one eye, is more aggressive. Suits a whole lot better for Ciarán than for James. In the other hand, Mance is younger (or so i picture him), is a ladies’ man, sings and play musics. Do you picture Ciarán doin’ this?? James Purefoy does it better!!!

  482. Anna
    Posted February 26, 2013 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Carne,

    I’m right there with you. I do think Ciaran is a great actor but a poor fit for the role of Mance. He’s too old. Purfoy or Dominic West were in the right age range and can pull off the charismatic rogue type that was Mance….I wish they had continued looking for another maybe unknown actor for the role rather than going with this solution.

    I’m disappointed.

  483. mike
    Posted March 25, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Ciarin Hinds is a great actor and all but can anyone really picture his as a bard. They never should have announced who was going to play Mance becausethe scene where Jon goes into the camp and wonders who Mance is was one of the best scenes.

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