Season 3 moments to look forward to
By Winter Is Coming on in Editorial.

With HBO starting to promo the upcoming season, I thought it would be a good time to look ahead to season three and talk about the moments we are looking forward to seeing. We’re going to be doing this round-table style, so all of our writers (yes, that includes FaB!) will weigh in with their thoughts on what moments they are looking forward to most in the upcoming season.

Since all of these moments will be pulled from the book, you can expect HUGE spoilers in the following post. So only click through to the post and the comments if you have read A Storm of Swords!

Winter Is Coming: Ok, I will kick things off. The biggie is obviously the Red Wedding. Every single Ice and Fire reader remembers what their immediate thoughts were when they read this part in the book. It was shocking, gut-wrenching and so very Martin. The showrunners, David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, have talked before about how they’ve been looking forward to adapting this scene since they first started on the show, so I expect a faithful adaptation. And with the way the show has been able to successfully handle the big moments in past seasons (Ned’s execution, the birth of the dragons, Battle of the Blackwater, etc.) I fully anticipate that the Red Wedding will be just as impactful on screen as it was on page.

Ours is the Fury: Reading the Red Wedding was like getting a kick in the gut, and I’m hoping that same brutal effect will come across onscreen. One of my other favorite scenes in the entire book series will appear this season – Jaime returning to help Brienne after he’s been freed, and the two of them facing down a bear together. It’s a major turning point for Jaime Lannister’s evolution and their uneasy connection.

Hear Me Roar: If they nail the emotional side of the Red Wedding the way they managed with Baelor, we have a winner on our hands. Ideally, even the attentive fresh viewers should be caught unaware for maximum impact. Ah, the bearpit scene. I tried not to get too excited about that bit at first, since I suspected the production might want to take shortcuts and avoid handling bears, but since we heard the bear is in, I have been fully invested in the anticipation of this character-defining moment. My choice of the material I am looking forward to most may be slightly unconventional. Queenscrown. Alright, the place may be different or nondescript, but Jon’s escape in the stormy night, Bran’s party trying to avoid detection – and first and foremost the two storylines coming excruciatingly close together. Establishing links between the many different narrative strands is all important in making the sprawling world and the tale itself feel truly organic. I heard that Winter shares this view.

Fire And Blood: I have every confidence the Red Wedding will be handled excellently. Oddly, the first scene in A Song of Ice and Fire that actually made me sit up and go, “I need to see this story onscreen,” was Dany’s “Mhysa” moment:

“Mhysa!” they called. “Mhysa! MHYSA!” They were all smiling at her, reaching for her, kneeling before her. “Maela,” some called her, while others cried “Aelalla” or “Qathei” or “Tato,” but whatever the tongue it all meant the same thing. Mother.

It’s only part of what made A Storm of Swords, in my opinion, the best book in the series thus far, and it still gives me chills every time I re-read it. And I am pretty confident we’re going to get it on the show.

Winter Is Coming: As HMR said, the Queenscrown moment is one I’m really looking forward to. In the book we see everything from Jon’s point-of-view, but in the show they could get creative with how they cut back and forth between Jon and Bran controlling Summer. Another scene that should be exciting to see on screen? The Hound vs. Beric Dondarrion. Not just the fight itself (which will be epic what with a freaking flaming sword involved!) but it should be quite the creepy ending when Beric rises once again.

Ours is the Fury: After reading the interview with the show’s SFX floor supervisor about creating the flaming sword effects for Beric and Sandor’s duel, I’m really looking forward to that as well. I’m curious too to see what it will look like when Sam kills a White Walker with dragonglass. Finding another weapon that can be used against the White Walkers is a bright spot of hope; that and seeing how the Night’s Watch finally embraces Sam, as the Slayer.

Fire And Blood: I’m going to come right out and say I want to see Nikolaj Coster-Waldau naked and in a bathtub. Partly to make up for the fact that no one got to see Tom Wlaschiha naked and in a bathtub. There’s been a distinct lack of bathtubs following season 1’s awesome dragonsexposition scene with Harry Lloyd and his fabulously scarred nipple / Roxanne McKee and her distractingly well-placed strands of wet hair. (Seriously, go re-watch that scene. It’s brilliant.)

Hear Me Roar:  Count me in for the Sam the Slayer scene! I bet his victim will be the White Walker from the S2 finale. One more scene to add: Jon and Ygritte in the cave. The previously established dynamics betweet the two characters  promises a lot of fun, plus it will be refreshing to get a positive, non-exploitative sex scene. I am all the more looking forward to it since the stunning Grjótagjá cave has just been confirmed as a location they are using this year.

What moments are you all most looking forward to seeing?


279 Comments

  1. Cary Storm
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Joffrey getting it at his wedding. Which I still expect to be in the Season Finale, even if I’m in the minority in this.

  2. serum
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    the switching of robb and greywinds heads will be crazy, can’t wait to (hopefully) see that!

  3. Tír Airgid
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Hands down, the bear pit.

    I cannot really say I’m looking forward to the RW. I’m more dreading having to relive it… And hoping it’ll be rendered in all its tragic relentlessness.

  4. Duff Man
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    How about Craster’s death immediately followed by Mormont’s death and all of the chaos that comes right after that. That should be a great scene if it’s done right.

  5. Friend Of fire
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    I am most looking forward to Dany’s scenes they blew me away in this book especially how she takes complete control and really becomes a dragon.

  6. Winter Is Coming
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Thanks for being careful but you all don’t need to mark your spoilers in his thread. :)

  7. Isabella
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    I hope the Red Wedding isn’t overly foreshadowed or telegraphed. I want it to be genuinely shocking to non-readers.
    A friend of mine wanted to know if the girl Robb was supposed to marry is going to turn out to be really beautiful; he thinks there’s going to be some sort of love triangle. I responded, ‘you’re right, she is really beautiful.’ ;)

    But seriously, we readers should stop talking about it so much. It’s getting harder and harder to avoid spoilers. Just last week, I was on youtube searching for something with absolutely no relation to Downton Abbey and saw a video with a totally spoilery title. :(

    Also looking forward to naked Jaime in the bath!

  8. Hear Me Roar
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Duff Man,

    I agree. Though I wonder about the timing of it … could be either this season or next.

  9. Isabella
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    I agree. I think that would be a great way to end the season.

  10. Mal
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    The scenes between Tyrion and Tywin!

    Tywin has melted down Ice.
    Tyrion is denied Casterly rock.
    Tywin says Tyrion must marry Sansa.
    Tyrion kills Tywin.

    The coolest caracters in the TV series if you ask me!

  11. Jordy
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    It’ll be wonderful to see Dany finally take control of everything around her, so I can’t wait to see the dracarys/ Unsullied seen at Astapor.

  12. Hear Me Roar
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Isabella,

    Me too … one potentially good idea would be going from a tense worried atmosphere when Robb enters the Twins, which is then dispelled by salt and bread, jests, laughter, everyone relaxes, including the viewers – until …

  13. Watson
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    I’m really interested to see how they depict the scaling of the wall. I hope this is what Kit was referring to when he said they were spending more money than ever before.

    In terms of seeing what direction they go in, seeing how much of a presence House Bolton becomes will be interesting.

    Also, this is probably the make or break season for warging, so hopefully they’ll really commit.

  14. TC
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    its been a while sense i read the books but i believe this scene was in storm of swords – when Bran and the group were resting in the cave on the way to the way. The old man meets them and talks of the times when there was a “stark in winterfell”. When there was stability and justice. For me – really emphasized how far the story had come and how desperate the situation had become. I think it would be a really really cool scene. especially with Jon, Arya, and Sansa all reaching rock bottom if i recall. could happen after the RW

  15. caoimay
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Sansa’s talk with Margery
    Sansa’s pre-wedding talk with tyrion/b>
    Sansa’s
    wedding night talk with tyrion/b>

    Tywin informing Cersei of his plans for her

    The Reeds
    Bran talks with Bucket man in the hills “when there was a Stark in Winterfell…@

    Jamie’s hand
    SAPPHIRES
    Jamie’s bathtub speech
    Jamie and Brienne – the bearpit

    Mormont’s death

    Sam the Slayer

    Red Wedding

    “A dragon is no slave”
    Arstan saving Khaleesi
    Dany’s talk with Jorah

    Awesome!!!

  16. Zack
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    I’m anxious to see how much time is devoted to Jaime and Brienne swordfighting. I remember it seeming really epic in the book, probably the most intense swordfight up to that point in the series. I hope they make it as good as it seemed in the book :)

  17. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    I have a few things I’m looking forward to the most:

    1. All of Arya’s scenes. I have loved Arya’s story in all of the books, but since the first time I read it in 2005, A Storm of Swordshas always been my favorite for Arya. Her story is a true adventure tale.

    2. The scene that Jon Snow, Ygritte, and the other Wildlings climb the Wall. That should make for some breathtaking imagery.

    3. The bear pit! It is a hair-raising scene in the book – just imagine it on-screen.

    4. The Red Wedding, of course. But mainly from Arya’s point of view outside. When I read the book, I found that to be the most disturbing part – knowing that she had traveled so far, and got so close…and to have it ALL ripped from her!

    5. If it is included, the death of Joffrey, capture of Tyrion, and escape of Sansa. I think that would be an epic ending to Season 3.

    There are many more things I’m looking forward too. But, I thought I would just name my top five. Of course, I’m looking forward to seeing Daenerys’ story, Sansa’s story, anything with Stannis/Melisandre/Davos, and The Hound/Beric Dondarrion fight!

    Any word yet on when we will see our first In-Production video hit the web?

  18. sunspear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    The two scenes I’m most looking foward to:

    The wildlings singing ‘the last of the giants’.
    Jaime losing his hand.

    Also I can’t wait to see the fan reaction when they see what happens to Theon.

  19. Bryon Blofstein
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    I’m curious after the RW if Stoneheart/Undead Cat will be introduced. Especially since WIC mentioned Beric Dondarrion above.

  20. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    sunspear,

    I wonder how much of Theon we will be seeing this season. Has Ramsay Snow been cast yet?

  21. spacechampion
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Will Davos learning to read be this season, or next? If this season, I’d add what that leads up to with Mel agreeing with him and convincing Stannis as a moment I’m looking forward to seeing.

  22. JMOHL
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Red Wedding is clearly the most important and impactful…. I am almost dreading actually seeing it, that kick in the gut will be like a kick in the groin.

    Sam the Slayer scene should be great as well as Craster’s Keep

    I LOVE Jon’s storyline in ASOS, prolly won’t get to see the battle for Castle Black and the Wall til season 4 but I think that might be the scene I am mos tlooking forward to in the entire series thus far.

    Beric and The Hound will be epic, Arya’s story is also great…. really mad they killed the Tickler though, the chapter in the book where she goes apeshit on him is in my top 3 favorite moments of the entire series.

    Tyrion and Tywin’s interaction should be very compelling as well, IMO Charles Dance rivals Dinklage for the best overall acting performance on the show (gutsy I know becuz everyone is absolutely amazing, but CD has really nailed Tywin to a T, and Tywin is a very difficult character to portray.)

  23. caoimay
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Also where they’re putting the split…
    New scenes that play so well that I can’t remember are part of the book or not
    What are they doing with Theon…

  24. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    spacechampion:
    Will Davos learning to read be this season, or next?If this season, I’d add what that leads up to with Mel agreeing with him and convincing Stannis as a moment I’m looking forward to seeing.

    In the first half of A Storm of Swords, I don’t think there is 10 episodes worth of Stannis/Melisandre/Davos material. I could be wrong. So, I think they may include quite a bit of his learning. And possibly extend his imprisonment. But that’s just me. HaHa.

  25. caoimay
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:11 am | Permalink
  26. Roger
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    A small scene for me when Arya meets Harwin and breaks down crying thinking he would take her to Winterfell. Ygrite’s death.

  27. Lea
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Ramsay Snow and Theon, definitely. Also Sansa and Margaery.

    And of course, the Red Wedding!

  28. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    caoimay,

    I think that the split will be when Joffrey dies. I imagine a very intense sequence, from three points of view: 1: Sansa being rescued from King’s Landing by Littlefinger (as opposed to Dontos seeing as he won’t be in it). 2: Cersei cradling Joffrey, and screaming “SEIZE HIM!” to the guards, pointing to Tyrion. 3: The final shot of Tyrion beeing seized by the guards, and looking VERY worried!

  29. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    caoimay,

    That is great to hear! :D Let the flaying begin!

  30. Azad Injejikian
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    -RW

    -Tyrion telling Joff he’ll need a wooden prick

    -Uncomfortable Tyrion/Sansa Honeymoon night

    -Queen of Thorns!

    -The Beric surprise ressurrection

    -Arya Axe to the head?

    -Arya getting Needle back?

  31. Jerry Glonek
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Mal,

    Mal:
    The scenes between Tyrion and Tywin!

    The coolest caracters in the TV series if you ask me!

    That will most likely be Season 4 since the book is being split in two

  32. Fer
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    I’m surprised nobody has mentioned the Unsullied killing their previous masters the only truly awesome Dany moment in the books in my opinion

  33. cuttlefish
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    And what about Tyrion killing Tywin, and the fight between Oberyn and the Mountain?

  34. Azad Injejikian
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    what the hell!? My spoilers are showing above. the preview was fine!

    tried to edit but it happened again. stupid firefox! requetsed deletion

  35. Javi Marcos
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    For me it’s pretty sad that for some people the most awaited scenes are sex scenes/Jaime naked.

  36. Brightroar
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Davos’ POV when stannis burns the leeches, gotta be included.

  37. Ross
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Brightroar:
    Davos’ POV when stannis burns the leeches, gotta be included.

    I’m not sure watching three small sticky invertebrates burn to death will be particularly compelling TV, but each to their own :-)

  38. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    cuttlefish,

    I’m pretty sure those scenes will take place in Season 4. I imagine.

  39. Cary Storm
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Azad Injejikian,

    Spoilers are fine in this thread. Snape killed Dumbledore and all that.

  40. Brendan Fitzpatrick
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Something I haven’t seen anyone post yet, and if they did, I missed it…but I’m really excited to see how they handle the brilliant return of Barriston the Bold…Also, of course the RW, it’s going to be so creepy when the band starts playing Rains of Castamere…

  41. Brendan Fitzpatrick
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Something I haven’t seen anyone post yet, and if they did, I missed it…but I’m really excited to see how they handle the brilliant return of Barriston the Bold…Also, of course the RW, it’s going to be so creepy when the band starts playing Rains of Castamere

  42. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    1) Cersei’s reaction when she finds out Margaery’s cousins and the Queen of thorns are on their way to Kings landing
    2) Tyrion laughing at Cersei about her new husband to be. The crippled Tyrell
    3) Barristan saving Dany. Barristan and Jorah arguing
    4) Loras Tyrell reaction when he finds out about the Lannister/Martell Alliance.
    5) Any mention of the Red Viper
    6) Tyrion demanding casterly rock and Lord Tywin refusing.
    7) Tywin promises to give Tyrion Winterfell through Sansa marriage
    8) meeting Edmure and bryden Tully
    9) cat starks throat getting slashed
    10) Jaime Lannister sends his regards
    11) any scene with the lightning lord!
    12) rains of castamere music
    13) Jon meeting Mance Rayder
    14) Mance singing the dornishman’s wife
    15) Tormund Giantsbane penis jokes
    16) Jon defecting from the wildlings
    17) ygrittes death
    18) jeor mormont death and Sam saving gilly
    19) Arya screaming “kill him!” As she demands the brotherhood to kill the Hound.
    20) Lord Berics flaming sword

  43. Laura Ponce De León
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Here’s my list:

    -Ugh, I’m torn with the RW. I want to see how they handle it, specially the head switching… but I don’t think I can stand watching it :(

    -Also, I’m really excited about Craster and Mormont’s death (again, I’m not sure if I can watch the Old Bear die :'( )

    -The whole Dondarion/Hound fight it’s going to be AWESOME. I can’t wait to see the sword!!!

    -Jaime in a tub… naked… yes please!! I’ve been dreaming on the whole bear pit scene aswell ;)

    -Sansa&Tyrion’s wedding. All of it, from the moment when Tywin tells Tyrion he has to marry her.

  44. caoimay
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    I hope they get the guy from the national to play the Red Wedding, his voice is great on that track, so melancholic

  45. sunspear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    I’ve been wondering what they will do for the season finale, due to the lack of epic moments immediately after the Red Wedding. Here are my top 4:

    -Purple wedding: Easily the best moment to end on, but runs the risk of making the season to cramped like Season 2.

    -Ygritte death: Another good moment to end on, but runs the risk of alienating the viewers with more likable character deaths.

    -New Joffrey lesson: Tywin makes a comment that Joffrey ‘requires sharp lesson’. They might invent a new scene showing that, to give viewers some condolence.

    -Bear Pit scene: Would certainly screw up the timeline, but it’s a great moment and would help explain why it takes Jaime so long to reach Kings Landing.

    What do you guys think?

  46. Ren Snow
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Mal,

    Tyrion confronting Tywin won’t be this season

  47. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    caoimay,

    I think it would be an astonishing scene if they keep it absolutely silent, but just play that music. And, when the music comes to an end, we hear only one line: “Jaime Lannister sends his regards!” – Cut to Black. Credits roll! I can just imagine the faces of people watching it and being like “WHAT…THE…ACTUAL…F**K!?”

  48. caoimay
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Michael Harper,

    But we know that ep 9 is RW, and Joffrey dying happens a bit after that in the book, alot has to happen between the two weddings. Narratively speaking that would leave episode 10 much too condensed. And why would the put two such big events in the latter half of one season. It makes more sense to have that play in season 4, then they have time to introduce Oberyn and the Dornish storyline and get Jamie to Kings Landing for the funeral AND get Sansa ready to flee. They both will already have so much to deal with (hand, captivity, Brienne, major character development, release, bearpit; intrigue with Tyrells, Littlefinger I guess in this version, Wedding, dealing with deaths in family).

    Is it definitely confirmed the purple wedding is happening this season?

  49. Currer Bell
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Jaime’s bath scene. But if we’re going to do this, let’s do it right: no coy camera angles, no cute teasing cut aways. The full monty, please. We’ve had unending, unblushing, sometimes unneeded female full frontals, so play fair with the distaff segment of your audience.

    Also, on a personal note, one was scheduled for major surgery at 8:00 am so one needed to rest. One was up to 5:00 am reading SoS on Kindle and was so stunned with Cat’s opening her eyes that one couldn’t sleep afterwards. One hopes they treat this scene well and that it the final one of the season.

  50. wonky kitten
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    I don’t really understand why viewers should get no hints or clues concerning what will happen at the Red Wedding. I’ve come to realize that not everyone caught Martin’s hints in the text, but I felt like I was getting smacked over the head with foreshadowing.

    Two scenes that immediately come to mind, are
    a) The prophecies of the Ghost of High Heart. She speaks of a terrible wedding, filled with terrible drumming, and pipes, and screams, but the worst noise was the tinkling of bells.
    and
    b) Dany’s vision in the HOTU, where she sees a ruined wedding feast, with all the guests slaughtered, some still holding cups or food. At the head seat was a man with a wolf’s head for a body wearing an iron crown.

    The last vision was omitted from season 2, so they may play it light with the foreshadowing in the show, but some well places hints, would be appropriate and help remake the book experience. When I read AS0S the first time, I spent most of the chapter thinking “No Robb and Catelyn, run away, DO NOT GO IN THERE!” Then I was screaming at Arya “NO! CAN’T YOU SEE THAT EVERYTHING IS WRONG? STOP RUNNING TOWARD THE MASSACRE!” Then the Hound takes her with his axe, and I couldn’t believe it.

    Basically, that was a long-winded version in defense of RW foreshadowing. It will surprise people, it will shock them, a few homes may need some new TV sets, even if some hints are dropped. It definitely raised the suspense/drama of the whole scene for me.

  51. Ruddy Kinnear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Jon Snow, the wall is yours.

  52. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Michael Harper:
    caoimay,

    I think it would be an astonishing scene if they keep it absolutely silent, but just play that music. And, when the music comes to an end, we hear only one line: “Jaime Lannister sends his regards!” – Cut to Black. Credits roll! I can just imagine the faces of people watching it and being like “WHAT…THE…ACTUAL…F**K!?”

    I’m sorry this is an Aweful ending. We don’t want the cop out version of the red wedding. I want to see Rob getting hit with arrows, cats Throat getting slashed, Bolton stabbing Robb for the finish, soldiers killing grey wind, Northmen being slaughtered outside the gates

  53. Super Danny
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    More Tyrion Bronn and Varys scenes. You can’t get enough of them sparring and plotting and whatnot, and sticking Joffrey in his place.

    Also looking forward to the scaling of the wall, that should be impressive – and somewhat detrimental to one group of climbers.

  54. Malena
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Everything, every tiny moment of Jaime and Brienne´s Excellent Adventures. And yes that Harrenhaal tub is a must.

  55. Direhound
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    I hope they begin the season at Riverrun with Hoster’s funeral. That scene with firing the arrow was so vivid in the books and quite beautiful to me. It will give a good sense of relationships with Edmure and the BLackfish.

  56. Azad Injejikian
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    well technically Dumbledore sacrificed himse– ah, nevermind. :)

  57. YvyB
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    All of it! Every second ! This will be my first after reading all the books so I’m really looking forward to there adaptation on my thoughts!

  58. Macha
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    Shireen. Stannis’ leeches scene. Reek. Jaime getting his hand chopped off. The “My name is Jaime” moment in the bath. Bear pit. Boom boom booom. All things Mance. All things Dolorous Edd.

  59. Quowala
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    So much to look forward to this season. I think seasons 3 and 4 will be the best of this show cause lets face it Feast for crows and ADWD just aren’t as good as SOS. So lets enjoy these seasons while they last! For me season 3 is –

    1. The Red Wedding obviously. I’ve been trying to imagine how its gonna look and if it looks anything like in my imagination it should be pretty amazing. I have 100% faith that they will do it well. They have nailed all the big moments so far.

    2. All the Jaime/ Brienne scenes – especially Jaime losing his hand and the bear pit.

    3. Arya’s adventures with the BWB and the Hound. From the Hound VS Beric to arriving at the Red Wedding to Arya’s brutal murder to retrieve needle. Should be some of the best scenes of the season.

    4. Tyrion/ Tywin/ Cersei scenes. Just having those characters in the same scene is going to be exciting. And seeing Tywin putting Cersei down should be fun. And Tyrion marrying Sansa should surprise the non book readers!

    5. If they are doing it this season – Joffrey’s death.

    6. Ramsey!

    7. Dany stuff. (Never been a favorite of mine)

  60. KG
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    The wedding is a gimme. As much as the show will suffer for the loss of Michelle Fairley and her great talent, I cannot wait to see her portrayal as Catelyn totally spins out.

    On the “basic instinct” side of things, my brain demands Jaime-in-tub. WANT! NOW!!!

    Ok … ok … (deep breath, fans self) Ok, I’m good. Let’s continue.

    The bear pit should be terrific TV, too – the Road Trip from Hell is one of the best segments of the entire series, and the actors are definitely up to the task.

    P.S. Isn’t it funny that of all the menfolk in the show, the character who scored the hottest scene to date was Viserys?

  61. Hunter
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    5. Red Wedding.
    4. Purple Wedding (Finale is the smart move).
    3. Scaling the Wall.
    2. Trial at Hollow Hill.
    1. Arya/Hound shenanigans.

  62. Always Winter
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    The Queen of Thorns! The Queen of Thorns!

  63. Ruth Nieves
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t I read somewhere that they are splitting this book in half and making 2 seasons of the show from it? Can someone confirm this? If that’s true I am MOST interested in where they will end season 3. I’m thinking probably with the Red Wedding…?

  64. KG
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    I would be stunned if they jam the purple wedding in. It will rob season 4 of a huge moment, and that’s bad planning.

    More likely they will get Sansa married to Tyrion as the cliffhanger.

  65. sunspear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Unfortunately, I have finally given up hope for the Red Viper being in this season. Oh well, another sixteen months.

    Hunter,

    Braavos wasn’t in ASOS

  66. SerCountryFriedSteak
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Like many, I think The purple wedding will end season three episode 10.

    Those that disagree, I would like to hear what you believe will be the end of episode 10 in season three?

    Season 1 ended with the birth of dragons
    Season 2 ended with White Walker attack

    Give me season 3’s ending

    IMO, joff’s death is the only thing BIG enough for a season ender — Lady Stonehart being the possible exception

  67. Rygar
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Jaime’s wet kraken in the tub!!!

  68. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    caoimay,

    I don’t think it has been confirmed. I had no idea that RW was happening in Episode 9…that changes a lot of my thoughts on the ending haha.

  69. sunspear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    SerCountryFriedSteak,

    See above. My current top theory is that they push the bear pit scene back until then.

  70. King DBC
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    I’m literally looking forward to the first second of episode 1, ’till the last second of episode 10!

    But, mainly:
    -The Queen Of Thorns. What can I say? Only the coolest grandma freakin’ ever!
    -North of the Wall. Jon and Ygritte get pretty cool, especially since that awesome cave is confirmed! And climbing over the Wall. That should include some pretty epic special effects.
    -The Lightning Lord. I wanna see his flaming sword and him rise from the dead, again and again.
    -Jojen Reed telling Bran of how their fathers fought together at The Tower Of Joy.
    -Jaime and Brienne. They were awesome. The bear pit and the bath tub will be done well I hope.
    -I hope Sansa starts making little trips to the godswood to meet with Dontos…
    -Even the slightest mention of the Martell’s
    -And please, PLEASE, the Ghost Of High Heart!!!
    -Oh, and that little uneventful wedding ;))

  71. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    SerCountryFriedSteak:
    Like many, I think The purple wedding will end season three episode 10.

    Those that disagree, I would like to hear what you believe will be the end of episode 10 in season three?

    Season 1 ended with the birth of dragons
    Season 2 ended with White Walker attack

    Give me season 3′s ending

    IMO, joff’s death is the only thing BIG enough for a season ender— Lady Stonehart being the possible exception

    Season 3 won’t end with the death of Joffrey. Reasons:
    1) the Red Viper has not been cast. He has very important scenes with Tyrion that will be impossible to happen if Tyrion is in prison.
    2) There’s not enough time to have the purple wedding in episode 10. Episode 10 is used to tie up loose ends and set up the next season. We will need to see the aftermath of the Red Wedding, the next step in Danys journey.
    3) mixing up joffrey’s wedding with so many additional scenes will do a disservice to that scene.
    4) we r not going to Tyrion start of season 4 arrested for the majority of the season. That would be a waste of a great character
    5) Penny hasn’t been cast and she has an important role in joffrey’s wedding.

    I could go on. I bet my house we will not see the purple wedding in season 3

  72. mags giantsbabe
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    I’m stoked that they are using THAT cave for, presumably THAT scene.

    Mostly I’m looking forward to the dynamics between certain characters, especially since Brian C mentioned earlier this year that it was going to be a season of family dynamics.

    But even Jon/Mance, Jon/Ygritte, Jamie/Brienne, Arya/Sandor and Theon/Ramsey are what I look forward to.

    I also look forward to seeing the Old Bear’s death, as this is also the first indication of Jon’s future. And the cave could be beautiful and subtle, as mentioned above.

    I’m waiting for a season 3 or 4 cliffhanger where Arya meets someone on a boat, with that awesome “Valar Morghulis” theme playing hintfully…

  73. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    When was it confirmed that the RW will be Episode 9?

  74. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper:
    caoimay,

    I don’t think it has been confirmed. I had no idea that RW was happening in Episode 9…that changes a lot of my thoughts on the ending haha.

    RW has been confirmed for episode 9. Quite obvious considering the show saves its biggest events for the 9th episode

  75. Amsterpaul
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Sam’s flight from the fist is what I am looking for. An he took another step…

  76. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Ruth Nieves:
    Didn’t I read somewhere that they are splitting this book in half and making 2 seasons of the show from it? Can someone confirm this? If that’s true I am MOST interested in where they will end season 3. I’m thinking probably with the Red Wedding…?

    More or less yes. The total of a Storm of Swords will Span season 3 and 4. We might get some “Feast for crows” also in season 4. Sansa’s wedding has been confirmed for episode 8 and the RW has been confirmed for episode 9

  77. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper:
    When was it confirmed that the RW will be Episode 9?

    Winteriscoming.net confirmed it months ago

  78. Hunter
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Hound/Arya crossing the river is a surprisingly epic/intense scene.

  79. Caro H
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Every single scene with sansa! Sophie’s acting in everything will great. And then there’s the scenes with Sandor, and well everything really. The red wedding, Jaime, KL, jon, theon- I CAN’T WAIT!!!!

  80. Hear Me Roar
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:09 pm | Permalink

    Yes, the scaling of the wall! I don’t expect they will go full epic on it, and show it in detailed steps … but I’ll be disappointed if there’s a bad cop-out.

  81. Arthur
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    I’m looking forward to the RW and how they capture those inbreed Freys laughing and shooting crossbow bolts into Greywind. Hearing him howl and then going to Robb as he died and says “Greywind”. The death of the Direwolf affected me more then Robb’s death.

    When Jamie goes back for Brienne and that dude he is with says something like “All this for a wench” and Jaime is like “Her name is Brienne”.

    Dany giving the command for Drogon to melt that slavers face off and freeing the unsullied.

    The Hound showing us his human side while hanging out with Arya and his duel.

    Jamie’s and Brienne’s duel.

    Seeing Jon Snow lose his virginity.

    And I can’t forget I am sooo looking forward to Meera and Jojen giving their pledge to Bran…

    The Pledge.

    “To Winterfell we pledge the faith of Greywater,” they said together. “Hearth and heart and harvest we yield up to you, my lord. Our swords and spears and arrows are yours to command. Grant mercy to our weak, help to our helpless, and justice to all, and we shall never fail you.”
    “I swear it by earth and water,” said the boy in green.
    “I swear it by bronze and iron,” his sister said.
    “We swear it by ice and fire,” they finished together.

    If D&D show us the pledge of film, which I think they must, ill get goosebumps!

  82. Peter
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    SerCountryFriedSteak: Like many, I think The purple wedding will end season three episode 10.Those that disagree, I would like to hear what you believe will be the end of episode 10 in season three?Season 1 ended with the birth of dragonsSeason 2 ended with White Walker attackGive me season 3′s endingIMO, joff’s death is the only thing BIG enough for a season ender — Lady Stonehart being the possible exception

    You answered your own question. The BwB finding Catelyn’s body and ressurecting her is the most likely end to season 3. Joff’s death will not be this year, it’s simply impossible for the timeline and as KG said it would be poor planning for season 4. It would also be cramming way too much shock into season 3, which would dilute the impact of the RW.

    I agree with Tom O’Sevens…I’m looking forward to Jon’s life with the wildings, particularly Tormund Giantsbane. He’s such a fun character.

  83. Jason
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Aside from what’s arleady been mentioned I”m looking forward to the scene where Robb takes Lord Karstark’s head. Where Karstark say’s something like,”There’s no one more cursed than a kinslayer, so kill me, and be cursed.” Great foreshadowing to the RW.

  84. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Jason,

    Also that actor will deliver that line flawlessly.

  85. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Enh I can see the show skipping the pledge, it’s setup seems hokey tv wise. I hope they do make no mistake but I wouldn’t put my hopes up.

  86. Peter
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Hunter: Hound/Arya crossing the river is a surprisingly epic/intense scene.

    I love that scene too but they might not have time for it. I really loved Jaime/Brienne’s escape from Riverrun, when Robin Ryger is chasing them down the Trident and Brienne drops a boulder on their boat…but that was completely cut from the show.

  87. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    Agreed. My prediction is he will die on the last minutes of the first episode of season 4. What a way to start the season!

  88. Aleksa
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    This.

  89. Alan
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Of the things I am not sure we will get, but I would love:

    * “I am the last of giants…” One of my favorite scenes from the books.

    * The Knight of the Laughing Tree story.

    * Two key details in the RW: Catelyn realizing something is wrong — the chainmail, people missing, etc. and then the very end. Jinglebell, her hair, all that.

  90. Arthur
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    But its Bran’s only high point, for the rest of the books. =(

  91. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    Wow, no idea how I missed that. I could have been in the Isle of Skye when that was confirmed. Good to know though :)

  92. Brad Villane
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Season 3 has got some of the best moments in the series.

    As said above, Jaime saving Brienne is one of them. I kind of hope they restructure that scene a little bit around Locke (who’ll evidently be standing in for Vargo Hoat). I want Jaime to bust in an save Brienne. Locke yells down, “Come back to rescue the wench I see?” or something of the sort. Jaime rams a dagger with his left hand through Locke’s throat…”Her name is Brienne!”

    But my favorite moment of the whole series is Tyrion and Sansa’s bedding. I remember tears streaming down my face after I read, “That’s why the gods made whores, for imps like me.” That moment really crystalized just how invested I’d become in the characters. D&D better not fuck with that line, or I’m gonna be pissed!

    That’s what separates ASOIAF from other fantasy. When you think of your favorite parts of everything else, it’s always a big battle or some fantastical creature. All my favorite moments from these books are little character moments. The books and the show really transcend the genre.

  93. Lars
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Isabella:
    I hope the Red Wedding isn’t overly foreshadowed or telegraphed.I want it to be genuinely shocking to non-readers.

    And can we please stop hyping the RW so much? Yes, it will be epic… But man, pretty much every newbie will have heard about the RW by now, and even if they do not know what it is, every mention of it hypes it up further.

    JUST STOP IT. STOP TALKING/WRITING ABOUT THE RED WEDDING. If I see one more comment to a newbie along the lines of “just wait ’til the red wedding’, I will GO BALLISTIC.

    The greatest events of S1 – Neds death, and the dragons – were so awesome for most because they WERE UNEXPECTED.

    But by hyping the RW so much, people have already speculated pretty much every possible eventuality before it happens.

  94. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    I expect that they’ll play the Red Wedding as a moment where the audience is thrown off-base by the possibility of Arya finally meeting with Robb and her mother, only to… Well, you all know.

  95. sunspear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    They may also play up the fact that Arya is supposed to marry another one of Frey’s sons as misdirection for what’s about to happen.

  96. Michael Harper
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Lars,

    Lars,

    I totally 100% agree! I know people who haven’t got a clue about the Red Wedding! And, they were planning on coming on here to talk amongst fans who have read the books – I urged them not too.

    It’s exciting for us to know that it’s coming. I wouldn’t wish for anybody who has no idea to be spoiled!

    Regardless…every news site that reports anything to do with A Storm of Swords seems to refer to it in some capacity. If people don’t know what’s coming, they will at least know something is coming. And if there is one thing worse than being told a MAJOR spoiler like that…it’s being told that something MAJOR spoiler worthy occurs! It affects your enjoyment!

  97. Mike Chair
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Tormund Giantsbane, Tall-talker, Horn-blower, Breaker of Ice, Thunderfist, Husband to Bears, Mead-king of Ruddy Hall, Speaker to Gods, and Father of Hosts.

    … All ripped and torn I was and half me member bit right off, and there on me floor was a she-bear’s pelt. And soon enough the free folk were telling tales o’ this bald bear seen in the woods, with the queerest pair o’ cubs behind her. Har! …

    ASOS, Jon II.

  98. Isabella
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    wonky kitten: I don’t really understand why viewers should get no hints or clues concerning what will happen at the Red Wedding. I’ve come to realize that not everyone caught Martin’s hints in the text, but I felt like I was getting smacked over the head with foreshadowing.Two scenes that immediately come to mind, area) The prophecies of the Ghost of High Heart. She speaks of a terrible wedding, filled with terrible drumming, and pipes, and screams, but the worst noise was the tinkling of bells.andb) Dany’s vision in the HOTU, where she sees a ruined wedding feast, with all the guests slaughtered, some still holding cups or food. At the head seat was a man with a wolf’s head for a body wearing an iron crown. The last vision was omitted from season 2, so they may play it light with the foreshadowing in the show, but some well places hints, would be appropriate and help remake the book experience. When I read AS0S the first time, I spent most of the chapter thinking “No Robb and Catelyn, run away, DO NOT GO IN THERE!” Then I was screaming at Arya “NO! CAN’T YOU SEE THAT EVERYTHING IS WRONG? STOP RUNNING TOWARD THE MASSACRE!” Then the Hound takes her with his axe, and I couldn’t believe it.Basically, that was a long-winded version in defense of RW foreshadowing. It will surprise people, it will shock them, a few homes may need some new TV sets, even if some hints are dropped. It definitely raised the suspense/drama of the whole scene for me.

    I’m not opposed to all foreshadowing, just too much. I don’t want the shock and surprise eliminated. Yes, when reading the book, I sensed that something bad was coming, but I had no idea of the extent of what would happen and the book teased me by suggesting that everything would be OK after all. The goal is that there be suspense and non-reader viewers have some trepidation about this wedding, not that they see it coming.

  99. Lors
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    I too was disappointed at the Tickler being killed that way..but hopefully Arya will get to do Polliver in that way as he has Needle and she needs it back!! So excited for everything really – non book readers have no fecking idea! Oooooh! :-)

  100. Rygar
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    I really hope that Season three reveals where whores actually go in order to save all of us from commiserating the answer to this inquiry in Seasons 5 or 6.

  101. Joaquin
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Bryon Blofstein,

    I think the kiss by fire will be the final scene of the season finale. People would be pissed by the things that happened at the RW and they need some sort of upcoming revenge. What do you think?

  102. Morgan King
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Nothing in the whole series I look forward to more than the bear pit scene.

  103. Cajunman
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    This may be a bit different, but I really look forward to the scene where Rob and his mother talk about his legacy and kingdom on a hill near a king’s tomb that has been worn smooth by time. That’s an amazing allusion to Ozymandias and foreshadowing at its best.

    Ozymandias
    I met a traveller from an antique land
    Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
    Stand in the desart. Near them, on the sand,
    Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
    The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
    And on the pedestal these words appear:
    “My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
    Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away.

  104. HyacinthGirl
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    -The Red Wedding will translate BRILLIANTLY to television. I can already hear the sinister, crashing music accompanying the drunken festivities, and then… The Rains of Castamere… holy crap.

    -Beric and the BWB. I’m hoping we see something of the BWB in action before Arya meets them, or at least get some mentions of Beric and Co. I love Beric.

    -Jaime and Brienne. Once again, can’t narrow it down much more: NCW and Christie nailed it in S2, I am so excited to see more of their dynamic.

    -Mormont’s death and its aftermath at Craster’s keep.

    -The Purple Wedding

    -Arya’s interactions with the Hound.

    -The Ghost of High Heart.

    -The Queen of Thorns, and the Tyrells being brought into the mix.

    -Snippets (heh, terrible joke) of Theon?

    -“Dracarys.”

  105. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    I really hope that Season three reveals where whores actually go in order to save all of us from commiserating the answer to this inquiry in Seasons 5 or 6.

    Tyrion’s whore is in Braavos. Looks like someone wasn’t paying attention to a dance with dragons ;). She’s the one that gets married every time a customer pays her

  106. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    I really hope we also see Arya’s introduction to the BWB the way it’s written in the book. She offers to exchange her horse for a boat. Moments earlier Brienne exchanged that same boat for a horse. Laughter ensues :). Reminds me if the Greatjon introduction from Season 1

  107. Andrew
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    The “Jamie lannister sends his regards” line was said when Bolton stabbed Robb, from what I recall. That means all we’d miss if they cut to black as he gets stabbed is Catelyns throat being cut. It’d still have the slaughter and the arrows and all that, and I personally think that cutting right after that line is a more powerful ending than cutting/fading after Catelyn dies. Maybe episode 10 can open with bodies being dumped in the river, or they could have Catelyn die before Robb. Then again, the “he’s just a grandson” thing Lord Walder says would also be a powerful line to end on.

  108. Arthur
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

    I am also really looking forward to seeing the CGIed bigger dragons and direwolves. By now the direwolves will be totally filled out and mature and those dragons should be like 5 times the size as season 2.

  109. Peter
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    Wait a second, you mean Tysha?

  110. sunspear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    That theories already been discredited. Tyrion was never a sailor.

  111. daroe
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Although it won’t be in season 3 one of my favorite moments in SOS was Jaime admitting to Tyrion that Tysha was, in fact, not a whore.

  112. Two Feathers
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Much and more to look forward to in season three. All my favs. have already been mentioned. I expect a lot more action, and geek fodder goodness per episode than the first two seasons. Can`t wait.

  113. Unbent
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    One of the scenes i was really looking foward to see was the one in wich Arya kills the tickler. A shame he was already killed in the second season by jaqen. It would have been a great scene.

  114. Maxwell James
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Since it hasn’t been mentioned yet: Jaime’s dream under the weirwood, that leads him to rescue Brienne. I don’t expect it to follow the book – no other dream sequence has – but it’s one of my favorite scenes in the entire series, and hauntingly well written.

    On a trashier note: folks, there will be no display of Lannister wang this season. NCW has been extremely, repeatedly clear on this point.

  115. KG
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James,

    I can cope with a butt. I’m not greedy.

  116. Luca
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    I’m with a lot of people on being torn about the Red Wedding. I remember feeling nauseated when I read it, letting my imagination really get into graphic visualization. But the moment to see, for me? Sansa’s pride finally refusing to budge during her wedding to Tyrion. I’m looking forward to seeing how they approach her wedding gown and the ceremonial pieces of it, as well as Joffery acting as ‘Ned’ for it.

    There are so many great scenes, though, the season is going to offer some amazing things to television yet again.

  117. MRR
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    I was much more moved by Jamie’s dream and ensuing conviction than by the bear pit itself, and I’m not sure quite how they’ll convey that shift of conscience in the show.

    I also thought the most heartbreaking part of the Red Wedding was when Cat laments that Ned always loved her hair – an inner dialogue moment that it would be hard to make room for on the show.

    Also, not usin’ tags ’cause this whole post is spoilleriffic.

  118. WildSeed
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Obviously the Red Wedding will tug at our gut and emotions, and
    I agree that the TV series has attempted well at the larger scenes. What
    I’m hoping for as well, in regard to Jaime Lannister, is for non book
    viewers to finally Accept that JL is going through an evolution of
    principle and personal values. So far many acknowledge as eye candy
    and dismiss his earlier deeds in seasons 1 & 2. In reading ASOIAF, I
    found JL character arc quite interesting. He had evolved from being an
    arrogant, entitled and incestuous cad with little or no principles, to
    one whose moral character gradually develops and respect earned.

  119. WildSeed
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    Your 20 point list gives me goose bumps, all worthy of attention. Here’s
    hoping for most of these (:

  120. WildSeed
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    I’m looking forward to the RW and how they capture those inbreed Freys laughing and shooting crossbow bolts into Greywind. Hearing him howl and then going to Robb as he died and says “Greywind”. The death of the Direwolf affected me more then Robb’s death.

    When Jamie goes back for Brienne and that dude he is with says something like “All this for a wench” and Jaime is like “Her name is Brienne”.

    Dany giving the command for Drogon to melt that slavers face off and freeing the unsullied.

    The Hound showing us his human side while hanging out with Arya and his duel.

    Jamie’s and Brienne’s duel.

    Seeing Jon Snow lose his virginity.

    And I can’t forget I am sooo looking forward to Meera and Jojen giving their pledge to Bran…

    The Pledge.

    “To Winterfell we pledge the faith of Greywater,” they said together. “Hearth and heart and harvest we yield up to you, my lord. Our swords and spears and arrows are yours to command. Grant mercy to our weak, help to our helpless, and justice to all, and we shall never fail you.”
    “I swear it by earth and water,” said the boy in green.
    “I swear it by bronze and iron,” his sister said.
    “We swear it by ice and fire,” they finished together.

    If D&D show us the pledge of film, which I think they must, ill get goosebumps!

    Well done. I’d like to include scenes from Beric Dondarion and Thoros
    of Myr, and the group at Queens Crown. I wonder if the script will
    allow for Summer being present (?)

  121. WildSeed
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens: Tyrion’s whore is in Braavos. Looks like someone wasn’t paying attention to a dance with dragons ;). She’s the one that gets married every time a customer pays her

    Ser Rygar is pulling your leg here :D He’s being a trickster.
    The answer is rather tautological and a play on words from Tyrion’s
    famous line ” Where do whores go (?) “

  122. WildSeed
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    I really hope that Season three reveals where whores actually go in order to save all of us from commiserating the answer to this inquiry in Seasons 5 or 6.

    Over the river and through the woods, to grandmother’s house you go…………

  123. Dave Kingslayer
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Since I heard this was going to be made into a TV show I’ve been waiting for ONE thing, and it’ll probably next season…

    THE MOUNTAIN vs THE RED VIPER

    That is my dream moment of this entire saga…

  124. BelwasBlues
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    I was looking forward to Strong Belwas, but… :(

    Otherwise, definitely looking forward to all the Hound/Arya moments, in general.

  125. The_Rabbit01
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    I have been thinking a lot about the S3 lately and realized I was more excited about it than I ever was before S2.
    I am almost equally excited like I was before S1.
    Probably, it is due to the original source which is far more eventful and dynamic than Clash of Kings and it the transition to another medium could be a bit easier for the producer to stay faithful as much as they could to the books.
    What am I looking forward: Almost everything mentioned above. And I can wait for March

  126. Premislaus
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    I firmly believe the PW will be in episode 10.
    Why would they move the Tyrion wedding to ep. 8 (way late as of the book chronology) otherwise? It looks like they’re going for “3 wedding in 3 final episodes” IMO.

    PW at the end of season 3:
    – is a natural end of a season arc for King’s Landing characters. I mean, J and M betrothal was already announced in S2e10. How long can you stall it? How long does it take to plan a bloody wedding?
    – gives the viewers (overwhelmingly pro-Stark) some hope and satisfactions.
    – is a powerful BAM moment

    The main objections people seems to have are:

    1) It’s to late/not enough stuff will be left for S4.

    This seems to be based on notion that ASOS will be two full seasons. That seems unworkable to me and, despite many claims to the contrary, was never actually confirmed by official sources. It seems reasonable that S4 will include parts of AFFC/ADWD, most likely the Iron Islands & Dorn plotlines.

    2) They didn’t cast Oberyn.

    Yeah, that would like Bran/Theon ACOK storyline without Reek & Reeds.

    3) So much happens in ASOS! You can’t cramp all of this in one season!

    Most of the big events happens in the last 3 of the book. Before that point, it’s almost all buildup. IMO, Season 2 suffered from the lack of (obvious) plot developments and the showrunners shouldn’t repeat that mistake.

  127. Beyond the Wall
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Sam the Slayer without a doubt, really looking forward to Sansa and Tyrion’s wedding , the RW goes without saying.

    interested to see what/if they include Coldhands.

  128. sareeta
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    After the absolute gut-wrenching Red Wedding, I hope the season can end on a high note with the death of Joffrey. Also, if they choose to have his death, I hope they go all out on making it as twisted and horrific as possible because if anyone deserves a gratuitous, brutal death, it’s Joffrey (and next in line would be Cersei). I’m talking prolonged choking/gasping, face turning red, then blue, then purple. Maybe add him clawing at his neck. Man, the fact that I just typed that either means I’m really twisted or I just really hate Joffrey.

    This book has so many memorable scenes with all the main characters. Sansa’s secret meetings in the Godswood, Sansa’s hairnet and wedding scene should be great.

    Jon’s dealings with Mance and the wildlings and subsequent betrayal.

    Trailer please!

  129. Edward Soto
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    I just can’t wait for the season finale and what it will be, I’m hoping Joffs death and Tyrion being accused to be the closing scene. It only makes sense considering both Martin and the writers direction with the show. They give us Robb’s death and the head-switcher to make use hate them, then kill Joff to make us love them; only to end it with the worst accusation of a character you can’t help but love. Its so Throne-y I bet money on it.

  130. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    I would love if they showed Jaqen killing Balon Greyjoy

  131. sunspear
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Premislaus,

    1. It isn’t so much the fact that that it would reduce the content of season 4, as it would make episode 10 way to cramped. The finale has to provide a wrap up for all major plot threads, so that episode would need to include Tywin explaining his role, Stannis’s decision about Edric storm, scenes with Arya, Jon, and Dany, and then finally all that happens in the lead up to the PW, including revealing who was responsible for the assassination attempt on Bran. That’s way too much to happen in one episode.

    2. It isn’t just that they would have to rework Oberyn’s introduction. When the death happens, new viewers will have a week of speculating who was behind it. Oberyn will be one of the prime targets. Plus, it would mean fewer episode with Oberyn, which is horrifying.

    3. No argument really here, except messing with the timeline this much could have disastrous consequences.

    I, originally, did want the PW in episode 10. But I also wanted the Red wedding in episode 8, so that we could get the aftermath out of the way in episode 9. Without that, episode 10 will be to cramped to include the PW.

  132. Øystein
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Giants!

  133. Chris
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    Hands down the Battle of the Fist.
    I have this vision of the Black Brothers battling wights in semi darkness, the ring of torches, flaming arrows, the undead bear wreaking havoc, and then the Brothers saddling up and frantically charging in a wedge down the mountain, making their escape smashing through the undead hordes….
    Okay, we haven’t seen many horses so the big escape on horseback
    is probably not going to happen. And the wights’ march on the Fist in the Season 2 finale seemed to be happening on an overcast day, not at night… Sigh.
    And while we DID get to see an undead horse, the bear might be too much to hope for.
    But they’d better do that scene right dernit! And PLEASE… make it at least a little darker than it was when last we saw Sam and the white walker!
    In the same vein, I’m really hoping we’ll see Stannis seeing the battle in Mellisandre’s flames. It was such a huge, underplayed, part of ASOS but with such dramatic potential. Imagine being able to see the battle, knowing what it is, as Stannis has no idea the import of what he’s witnessing.
    Better still… if we’re taking liberties… why not have DAVOS see the battle in the flames… ??? Nah, that’s heresy.

  134. Arkash
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    Battle of the Fist and NW’s retreat through the Haunted Forest.

    Sam’s very first chapter remains one of the greatest moments in the entire series !

  135. Alfador
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Most looking forward to seeing Belwas take a dump in front of Meereen!
    Unfortunately looks like that won’t happen :-(

  136. Lexyvil
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    There’s so many good parts in this book that I want to see…One of which is Beric VS Sandor and of course the RW… And many other things.

  137. GeekFurious
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    Joffrey getting it at his wedding. Which I still expect to be in the Season Finale, even if I’m in the minority in this.

    That will most likely be the season 4 finale. Red Wedding will likely end season 3.

    I am most looking forward to:

    1. Jon Snow doing sexy like a meow meow time with his fiery love.
    2. “You know nothing, Jon Snow.”
    3. Sam ‘the Slayer’
    4. Red Wedding.
    5. Robb’s plan (since I bet this will lead to the shocker of the Red Wedding working so well on uninitiated viewers).
    6. Bear fight!

    And so much more…

  138. Lexyvil
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:05 pm | Permalink

    Arkash,

    Sobbing, he took another step…

  139. Ducky
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    I am looking forward to the Jaime storyline.

  140. Currer Bell
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    On a trashier note: folks, there will be no display of Lannister wang this season. NCW has been extremely, repeatedly clear on this point.

    Well, the man must be aware of his own shortcomings.

  141. Quowala
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    PW as season 4 finale?
    Nah thats way to0 far in. More like season 4 opener or if not then within the first few episodes.

  142. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    season 4 finale for Joff’s death? no it will be earlier than that.

  143. Ser Tahu
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    People, use common sense. Joffrey’s wedding will be mid-late season 4, not season 3. There is quite a bit of Kings Landing stuff that needs to happen before that which we know won’t be in season 3. For example, Oberyn Martell has to be introduced and his role established before the wedding, and we already know that he won’t be in this season. My prediction is: episode 6 or 7 of season 4 = Joffrey’s wedding, episode 7 or 8 = Tyrion’s trial, episode 9 = the Viper vs the Mountain, episode 10 = the escape. while I’m on the topic of what will not be in season 3, i think Coldhands won’t be in it. I think that Sam’s storyline will end with the mutiny, leaving Coldhands for an early-mid season 4 introduction.

    anyway, the things i am looking forward to the most in season 3:
    1) The Red Wedding
    2) The seige of the Fist of the First Men
    3) the sacking of Astapor
    4) the mutiny at Craster’s keep
    5) Jon being brought before Mance on the Fist of the First Men, and seeing the devastation the remains there
    6) Queenscrown
    7) Sam the Slayer
    8) Jon scaling the wall
    9) Beric vs the Hound
    10) Theon torture scenes. don’t get me wrong, Theon is one of my favourite characters/POVs, but it will still be interesting to see how they handle those scenes. I am kind of scared at how the tv viewers will react to Ramsay though. book-readers are generally split on their opinions of Theon, but almost all tv viewers hate him. I’m kind of worried that they will like Ramsay because he is torturing Theon. (Ramsay is by far my least favourite character in the entire series, I hate him more than Joffrey, and I want him to have his face flayed off)

  144. Mimsy
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Too much to look forward to and I know it’s impossible to capture.. but Arya finding or rather fighting her feminine side… Jon being kickass… FINALLY… Bran becoming otherworldly.. Rob, Grey Wind and Cat breaking my heart.. Meera being fearless (I love it when she takes on Summer to protect Jojen.).. Breanne and Jaime.. each of their scenes are magic!

    Too… too much to list. LOVE this book!! End of story. If anyone is going to try and read any of the books, it should be this one.

  145. Joaquin
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Jason,

    About that, if you remeber SOS you ll know that Robb had to take several slashes at the head of Karstark (and that showed a little bit of weakness). Curiosly on season 2 Theon kills Ser Rodrik the same way. Its a minor detail but i thing Karstark will say that line and Robb inmediately will give him a one slash clean death.

  146. Gatorfisch
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Did someone say NCW in a bath tub? If that scene is as good as my imagination thinks it will be, I may have to buy the season 3 dvd… Seriously, though, Jaime is one of my favorite characters and his storyline in books 3 and 4 are so amazing, that I can’t wait for season 3 to start! And the RW…well, I think we can all say that one is big!

  147. Gatorfisch
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Javi Marcos:
    For me it’s pretty sad that for some people the most awaited scenes are sex scenes/Jaime naked.

    Sorry, you just obviously don’t seem to understand the power of NCW…but it is also a great scene with an amazing monologue for Jaime.

  148. Patchy Face
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Quowala,

    Rereading Feast for Crows and you know what? Really, really excellent! Think I read it too fast the first time – of course, nothing compares with SoS but take another look at Feast -

  149. Patchy Face
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Mother! Mother!

    Awesomeness.

  150. KG
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    Currer Bell,

    Size doesn’t always matter. Besides, did you see that fakie they stuck on Hodor? lol

  151. El Beto
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper: “A dragon is no slave”

    I mean, two blood weddings in 1 season?
    I think not…
    And remember, the Red Wedding was way before Joffrey’s

  152. Gatorfisch
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James:
    Since it hasn’t been mentioned yet: Jaime’s dream under the weirwood, that leads him to rescue Brienne. I don’t expect it to follow the book – no other dream sequence has – but it’s one of my favorite scenes in the entire series, and hauntingly well written.

    On a trashier note: folks, there will be no display of Lannister wang this season. NCW has been extremely, repeatedly clear on this point.

    I don’t need to see Lannister jewels…just the vision of him sitting in the tub, all wet and intense…sigh….

  153. El Beto
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Permalink
  154. El Beto
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    cuttlefish:
    And what about Tyrion killing Tywin, and the fight between Oberyn and the Mountain?

    Book 3 is going to be in 2 seasons… That chapters will be in season 4

  155. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Patchy Face,

    I’m doing the AFFC/ADWD combo re-read. It is much more enjoyable than when I first read AFFC and ADWD. Though Dany’s chapters are still horrible and Tyrion’s chapters after being captured by Jorah are nearly as bad. I can’t wait until all of the characters are in Westeros.

  156. queenofthorns
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:17 pm | Permalink

    1. All of the Jaime x Brienne (yes bath scene included OF COURSE)

    2. Daenerys the Conquerer x 2

    3. Tyrion and Sansa’s incredibly akward wedding O_o

  157. NewJeffCT
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    Having just re-read A Storm of Swords, the Purple Wedding is not that far after the Red Wedding. However, I don’t think they can end on the Purple Wedding, though I could easily be wrong. I’m really looking forward to seeing the Queen of Thorns on screen and the scene with her, Margaery & Sansa.

    But, I think ending the season on the death of Ygritte could be too much of a downer following the RW in episode 9, but I know nothing. Or, maybe Jon defending the wall before Janus Slynt & then Stannis arrive? Though, maybe they could do a bit more with the Wall and end it on Stannis arriving at the wall to end episode 10?

    So much for season 4, though. Jon becoming L-C after being offered Winterfell, Arya & the Hound and their fight with the Mountain’s men, then Arya leaving him to go to Braavos, Sansa escaping KL and then Littlefinger killing Lysa after she admits to poisoning Jon Arryn, Bran going beyond the wall, Jamie & Cersei being reunited, Tyrion’s trial and the Mountain vs the Red Viper (they better keep that almost word-for-word! I need to hear “Elia of Dorne. You raped her. You murdered her. You killed her children.”) then, Tyrion killing Tywin…

  158. Ser Tahu
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    P.S i forgot to mention the leeches. if that scene makes it in, it will be incredibly chilling.
    ‘The usurper, Joffrey Baratheon… the usurper, Balon Greyjoy… the usurper, Robb Stark’

  159. Gatorfisch
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Ooh…I don’t know if it will be season 3 or season 4 but the scene in the sept when Jaime and reunites with Cersei…can’t wait to see that, too!
    Did I mention that I love Jaime’s storyline in these two books?

  160. Ser Tahu
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    P.S i forgot to mention the leeches. if that scene makes it in, it will be incredibly chilling.
    ‘The usurper, Joffrey Baratheon… the usurper, Balon Greyjoy… the usurper, Robb Stark’

    anyway, here is where i think each storyline will end:
    Robb/Catelyn: the Red Wedding, obviously
    Talisa: ? either at Riverrun, receiving news of Robb’s death, or at the Red Wedding

    The Brotherhood: either after Arya leaves them, or in episode 10 reviving Catelyn
    Arya/Sandor: Sandor hits Arya in the head with his axe

    Samwell: the mutiny
    Jon: his return to the Wall
    Bran: Queenscrown. they’re going to have to stretch out his storyline a bit.

    Theon: he’ll just have some torture scenes spread throughout the season
    Asha (Yara): maybe a scene in Deepwood Motte with her hearing about the Sacking of Winterfell

    The Vale: ? not sure what the hell they’re doing with that. maybe a reaction to the Red Wedding

    Daenerys: winning over the sellswords at Yunkai and preparing to go to Meereen

    King’s Landing: reactions to the Red Wedding. the timeline of events in King’s Landing will be shuffled up a bit; everything to do with Oberyn will be moved to season 4. the only mentions of Dorne will be Twyin offering a seat on the small council in return for their support, and Cersei bitching about Myrcella

    Jaime/Brienne: leave Harrenhal.

    Davos/Stannis/Melsandre: reactions to the Red Wedding, Davos talking about 2/3 leeches (assuming they haven’t pushed back Balon’s death), Stannis is about to execute Davos when he pulls out a letter.

  161. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    - Jaime-Brienne in the bathhouse. Not for the nudity, but for the great dialogue.

    “By what right does the wolf judge the lion? By what right!?”

    – The bear pit
    – Jaime fighting Brienne while emaciated and in chains, and still talking trash even as he knows he is weak and struggling.
    – The Red Wedding. I wasn’t a big fan of Robb or Catelyn in the books, so I am not dreading this scene like most. They better keep ‘Jaime Lannister sends his regards.’
    – Jon and the Wildlings
    – Tyrion vs Tywin vs Cersei
    – The Hound vs the Lightning Lord
    – The Queen of Thorns questioning Sansa about Joffrey
    – Barriston the Bold verbally sparring with Ser Jorah
    – Any mention of Rhaegar
    – Tyrion and Sansa’s wedding and wedding night
    – The adventures of Arya and the Hound

    I think Jaime and Jon had the best chapters in ‘A Storm of Swords’. I’m expecting Jaime to be the star of season 3. NCW has nailed the role so far. I have no doubt he will be able to handle the larger role going forward.

  162. Selmy
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    I am going to have to disobey and put no spoiler tags. Because seriously, if you, non readers, are reading a ”GOT topic on events of the third book”, then you deserve to get spoiled because you’re just downright stupid.

    Events I look for:

    – Red Wedding: man that one was a bummer, but at the same time, the best thing I’ve ever read.
    – Tyrion and Tywin: I loved their conversations in book 3 where Tywin can be so mean to him. It almost justifies Tyrion killing him. ALMOST!!
    – All of Daenerys. A true Targaryen.
    – Queenscrown: I wonder if they’ll put Jon and Bran’s POVs at the same time, or do exactly like the book and show each one’s persective sepperated. I hope for the latter.
    – Arya woldfreams? I can only hope.
    – Sam the Slayer. So cool.

  163. Selmy
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    Oh and for thosew ho think Purple Wedding will be in season 3. D&D have said they cut the book roughly in half. Putting the PW in season 3 is not roughly, it’s a HUGE change from the books. PW must be at 80% of the 3rd book. There has to be some ”leading to it”.

  164. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted November 16, 2012 at 11:50 pm | Permalink

    There are so many pivotal moments in ASOS, that it is difficult for a woman to pick just a few. Many of the moments listed above are also this woman’s favorites. Among the book scenes, a woman is looking forward to Arya reclaiming Needle (“Is there gold in the village?”), Sansa’s wedding, UnCat emerging from the water (with Arya’s wolf dream), and all of Brienne’s adventures. This woman cannot say she is looking forward to the RW. : – (

  165. Selmy
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens: Tyrion’s whore is in Braavos. Looks like someone wasn’t paying attention to a dance with dragons ;). She’s the one that gets married every time a customer pays her

    What the fuck? Who are you? It all fits, and Tyrion will just never learn what happens to her. Martin style. :)

  166. Mirri Maz
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    Mostly the Red Wedding and I hope they allow Michelle Fairly to do all the scenes from the book from killing the son to her losing her mind as Robb dies. Also I would love if they closed the season with her being revived by Thoros as Beric dies.

    I’m not sure where they are cutting Jon’s storyline but Ygritte’s death is one the saddest even if I never really cared about her.

    Also whatever crazy scenes they make up between Lysa and I’m assuming Little Finger. The Eyerie set is still the best piece they’ve made for the show.

  167. GeekFurious
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:01 am | Permalink

    Quowala:
    GeekFurious,

    PW as season 4 finale?
    Nah thats way to0 far in. More like season 4 opener or if not then within the first few episodes.

    From a screenplay perspective, that is what I would do. Penultimate episode PW. Finale episode the aftermath and leading into season 5 with the reveals that close book 3 out.

  168. Ser Tahu
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:16 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious: From a screenplay perspective, that is what I would do. Penultimate episode PW. Finale episode the aftermath and leading into season 5 with the reveals that close book 3 out.

    but it isn’t just a bunch of reveals that close out book 3 after Joffrey’s wedding. there is a series of massive events that immediately flow on from it (namely Tyrion’s trial, Oberyn vs Gregor, Tyrion killing Tywin). there are also other major yet unrelated events that happened after Joffrey’s wedding, such as the siege of the Wall, Jon’s election, Lysa’s death and Barristan and Jorah infiltrating Meereen.

    the most likely candidate for the climax of the penultimate episode would be the Viper vs the Mountain. Joffrey’s wedding will probably happen somewhere between episodes 4-7. I’m thinking probably episode 6, or maybe episode 5.

  169. First
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:28 am | Permalink

    This entire season should be fucking crazily good with the material they have to work with. Eery scene of every episode should be amazing. I am extremely envious of non-book readers, the majority of whom will have probably just about forgotten all about Game Of Thrones until its return in March. Boy!, are they in for a treat.
    I have to say that Joffrey’s wedding is the most logical place for the season to end. All the King’s landing stuff coes to a climax at that point setting up for a new set of circumstances.
    3 Weddings thi season, I say. 3 more dead kings.

  170. Bannerless Bro
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:39 am | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    MIND=BLOWN
    MIND=BLOWN
    MIND=BLOWN
    MIND=BLOWN
    MIND=BLOWN

  171. Currer Bell
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:12 am | Permalink

    KG,

    That’s always the claim of the lesser endowed.

  172. Lin Beifunk
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:20 am | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    If you mean the Sailor’s Wife…

    Why would Tysha name her daughter Lanna? I guess she wants to commiserate the fact she was raped repeatedly by members and bannermen of the house?

    I’m leaning towards the theory that it’s just a coincidence or she’s a whole different person who’s been with old uncle Gerion. If the theory’s true, however, I have to question Tysha’s mental state.

  173. GeekFurious
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu: but it isn’t just a bunch of reveals that close out book 3 after Joffrey’s wedding. there is a series of massive events that immediately flow on from it (namely Tyrion’s trial, Oberyn vs Gregor, Tyrion killing Tywin). there are also other major yet unrelated events that happened after Joffrey’s wedding, such as the siege of the Wall, Jon’s election, Lysa’s death and Barristan and Jorah infiltrating Meereen.

    There are a lot of ways to move several of the story lines around that don’t directly impact the PW.

  174. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:25 am | Permalink

    Lin Beifunk,

    Never hear of Tysha’s daughter’s name before but now that u mention it Lanna is short for Lannister

  175. jarnomiedema
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    Just one word: DRACARYS!

  176. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:23 am | Permalink

    Lin Beifunk,

    I dnt mean the sailors wife. I mean the Whore in Braavos that Arya meets. That’s Tysha

  177. tweedie
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    There are so many pivotal moments in ASOS, that it is difficult for a woman to pick just a few. Many of the moments listed above are also this woman’s favorites.Among the book scenes, a woman is looking forward to Arya reclaiming Needle (“Is there gold in the village?”), Sansa’s wedding, UnCat emerging from the water (with Arya’s wolf dream), and all of Brienne’s adventures. This woman cannot say she is looking forward to the RW. : –(

    That

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    There are so many pivotal moments in ASOS, that it is difficult for a woman to pick just a few. Many of the moments listed above are also this woman’s favorites.Among the book scenes, a woman is looking forward to Arya reclaiming Needle (“Is there gold in the village?”), Sansa’s wedding, UnCat emerging from the water (with Arya’s wolf dream), and all of Brienne’s adventures. This woman cannot say she is looking forward to the RW. : –(

    That always confused me – does uncat/stoneheart come alive when Nymeria/Arya tells her to rise up or is it when Beric breathes life into her?

  178. Arkash
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    The thing about Storm is that this time Arya and Jon will be the “main characters”.

    Tyrion was season’s two and Ned season’s one…

    So I expect a lot from Jon and Arya now !

  179. Eleanor
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    So far they have exceeded all my expectations about Sansa’s storyline. I did not think they (and Sophie) would be able to do it as well as they did when she has no confidante.

    If they manage to bring that same excellence to the wedding and abortive wedding night, THAT will be a moment I am looking forward to. It always tears me up when Sansa is desperately trying to find his beauty like Septa Mordane had always told her to.

    Also:
    -Queenscrown
    -Tyrells getting info from Sansa under cover of A BEAR! A BEAR!
    -The way we speculate Iwan Rheon’s character will show up and his reveal

  180. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    tweedie: That always confused me – does uncat/stoneheart come alive when Nymeria/Arya tells her to rise up or is it when Beric breathes life into her?

    Uncat comes to life when Beric breathes life into her. Direwolves do not have the power to return the dead to life. Nymeria finding a dead Cat Stark was for the purpose of closure to Arya’s character. The final push that lead her to the acceptance of her moms death.

  181. Duncan Egg
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    The fall of Astapor!

  182. tweedie
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    You’re probably right and what you say makes sense. It’s just that the damned direwolf DID tell her to “rise and eat and run with us”

  183. Ser Tahu
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    tweedie,

    it says ‘she thought ‘rise and eat and run with us”. did the body rise and run with them? no. it was just Arya still trying to come to terms with her mothers death, and was no more than that.

  184. tweedie
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    Just after the direwolf thought those words, men arrived. Beric’s men presumably. The wolf then ran off. Apparently Beric breathes life into her at this point. I always thought those words had some sort of signifigance. They were a bit of a strange choice of words weren’t they? “rise” not “farewell”. And those direwolves came from the old gods it is known.

  185. omarlittletheking
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    All Jaime and Brienne
    The Red Weeding , which the heads switch included
    Hopefully, the Purple weeding
    And, one scene that I really hope to see is Robb tell him to Cat that he is going to name Jon as his heir.

  186. Game of Thongs
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    I wouldn’t get your hopes up to much about all the stuff in Storm, its getting split. My guess is after the RW when the Hound is outside the crossing is where the split will occur, that would be the nastiest cliff hanger.

  187. LampingIt
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Can’t wait for Khalesi freeing the unsullied and burning the slave citys to the ground.

  188. DSparks
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    I’m actually looking forward to the whole Whitebeard / Selmy reveal – will they even bother to diguise the fact that Whitebeard is Selmy? It was obviously easier in the book without being able to see the character.

  189. Blaat
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Why do so many people think the Purple Wedding will be in this season. I hope they don’t, it would make everything feel too cramped and get silly (with all the weddings). Since there is no Oberyn, it’s almost impossible to include the PW, unless you severly diminish his role. They also have several other extra stories to include (like the new introduction to Ramsay). Can somebody give me a link where the creators of the show hint at the RW being in episode 9?

  190. Anonymous Bastard
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Anyone trying to push purple wedding into mid season 4….
    Read aSoS again, there’s not much material before PW, even less between RW and PW (there are two chapter of tyrions in between them, both very short, first one is the news or RW reaching KL, second one is the morning of PW already. And about 80 pages of other things that are almost certain in season 3)…
    I’m actually getting bit resigned to the possibility, or likelyhood, that we will not see PW this season, but I really don’t see how they can prolong that wedding much futher, I mean, it was essentially announced at the end of season 2…
    …so whole season 3 in KL will be just wedding preparations? Oh joy….
    If it’s not this season, it’ll have to be very early next season, as, indeed, after the wedding there’s a LOT of stuff going on kingslanding and very little elsewhere…
    (And indeed, there’s very little going on in Kingslanding before the wedding…)

  191. Dragon on the wall
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Oh, really? I don’t think that’s Tyrions wife… Remember Tyrion had an uncle (Gerion) who went of to look for the Lannister familysword? I’ll bet that his wife and his daughter in the brothel, waiting for Gerions return from Valyria… I mean she calls herself the sailor’s wife and not the dwarfs’s wife

  192. Alan
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    DSparks:
    I’m actually looking forward to the whole Whitebeard / Selmy reveal – will they even bother to diguise the fact that Whitebeard is Selmy? It was obviously easier in the book without being able to see the character.

    I doubt they will try very hard to hide Barristan identity from the audience. They will maintain the facade, though, as Dany will not know him.

  193. Dragon on the wall
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Oh, really? I don’t think that’s Tyrions wife… Remember Tyrion had an uncle (Gerion) who went of to look for the Lannister familysword? I’ll bet that his wife and his daughter in the brothel, waiting for Gerions return from Valyria… I mean she calls herself the sailor’s wife and not the dwarfs’s wife

  194. Alex
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    looking forward:

    *RW
    *Tom o’ Sevens and the Brotherhood without Banners
    *Sansa and the ladies who lunch, Queen of Thorns, fool singing The Bear and the MF
    *the song of the last of the giants; also, GIANTS
    *Jamie meets with Roose Bolton
    *Jamie and Brienne vs. the Bear
    *Lannister war council scenes
    *Sam vs. the Other
    *Stannis burns his three rivals
    *Ramsay Snow
    *Will Theon be in it?
    *Will Balon’s death be shown? Will the Iron Islands conflict from FoC be moved up?

    From what I gather this season will end with the RW; no way the Purple Wedding is in season 3, that would leave hardly any of the book for season 4.

  195. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Alex,

    RW is ep 9.

  196. Alex
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    But while I’m at it, looking forward for season 4/rest of SoS:

    *Joffery gets it
    *Twyin does not, in fact, sh*t gold
    *The Red Viper vs. the Mountain
    *The Red Viper in general, esp his scenes with Tyrion
    *Littlefinger’s triumphant post-Joffrey-killing rant to Sansa
    *Jamie takes charge of the Kingsguard, starts writing his entry in the White Book…
    *Sam’s politicking for Jon’s election, “The Wall is Yours”
    *Little King Tommen
    *Tyrion’s last scene with Jamie
    *Bronn’s last scene with Tyrion
    *Stannis saves the Wall
    *Stannis’s offer to Jon, Jon’s choice and reunion with Ghost
    *Robb’s new head (maybe? –this is never actually shown in the book, so they’d have to go out of their way to work it in the show; only if there’s enough public demand I guess!)
    *Lady Stoneheart
    *Will Margaery start working on Tommen? In FoC she’s trying to influence him, to Cersei’s dismay. If they have space to fill in Season 4, and seeing as they’ve established Maragery’s ambition early in Season 2, there might be some interesting Marg and Tommen scenes shortly after the Purple Wedding.

    And the thing I’m wondering most of all:

    *What will they do with Talisa post-RW? It’s not like she can go back to living with the Westerlings at the Crag like her book counterpart. And they made it a point to make her a stronger, more worthy bride than Jeyne W, so they can’t just forget about her once she’s widowed.

  197. Alex
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Oh that’s been said for sure? I didnt realize that, though I guess it fits with the usual climactic ep 9 pattern. Still, I can’t believe they make it all the way to the Purple Wedding one episode later.

    I guess it does mean Robb’s new head might be in ep 10 though…

  198. Alex
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, I forgot to spoiler-black out some of my first post, like Balon’s death.

  199. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Dragon on the wall: *RW
    *Tom o’ Sevens and the Brotherhood without Banners
    *Sansa and the ladies who lunch, Queen of Thorns, fool singing The Bear and the MF
    *the song of the last of the giants; also, GIANTS
    *Jamie meets with Roose Bolton
    *Jamie and Brienne vs. the Bear
    *Lannister war council scenes
    *Sam vs. the Other
    *Stannis burns his three rivals
    *Ramsay Snow
    *Will Theon be in it?
    *Will Balon’s death be shown? Will the Iron Islands conflict from FoC be moved up?

    From what I gather this season will end with the RW; no way the Purple Wedding is in season 3, that would leave hardly any of the book for season 4.

      

    Must have missed that one. i must re read ;]

  200. Alex
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    re: JH killing BG

    Yes! good call. They should show that scene one way or another.

  201. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Am i crazy for wanting a constant season 3. With all killer & now filler episodes with good storylines and whatnotß

    For The RW:
    I am the only person in my friendsgroup who has read the books and lucky me the others refuse to read them for now. They all asking me what is going to happen in episode 9. the only thing I told them that season 3 &4 will have three weddings and countless deaths.

  202. Michael
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Where is the post about RW being episode 9? I remember the post that they were filming it, but not a concrete statement of where it would go. (Not that I’m saying it won’t be, of course)

  203. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    tweedie:
    Tom O’ Sevens,

    You’re probably right and what you say makes sense. It’s just that the damned direwolf DID tell her to “rise and eat and run with us”

    Just so. A woman agrees with all here that Nymeria pulls Cat from the water and is thinking those words…and Arya is having her wolf dream at that time where she can see that Cat is dead. As Nymeria gets Cat out of the water, soon after the BWB show up and Beric revive her, but Nymeria runs off before Cat is revived, so Arya only sees that her mother is dead, and gives up all thoughts of trying to find her at that point. That is a big moment for Arya, as she thinks at that moment that all her family is gone and she is alone.

  204. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Alex,

    http://winteriscoming.net/2012/10/new-in-depth-report-from-the-set-in-northern-ireland/

    I would be very surprised if the Purple Wedding is in the season 3 finale.

  205. Michael
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Ohhhh it was in the updates. That would explain why I couldn’t remember it. Thanks.

  206. SandSnake
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    After the Red Wedding (of course!) I’m most looking forward to Dany getting her army of Unsullied at Astapor. It’s probably the single part of the book that I re-read the most. The scene as written is epic, badass, satisfying, visually stunning, and a major turning point for Dany’s plot. I really hope it lives up to my high expectations.

  207. WildSeed
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar:
    There are so many pivotal moments in ASOS, that it is difficult for a woman to pick just a few. Many of the moments listed above are also this woman’s favorites.Among the book scenes, a woman is looking forward to Arya reclaiming Needle (“Is there gold in the village?”), Sansa’s wedding, UnCat emerging from the water (with Arya’s wolf dream), and all of Brienne’s adventures. This woman cannot say she is looking forward to the RW. : –(

    I agree. The season promises to be quite ambitious , I hope they choose well.
    Likely some will be left over for season four, but Joffrey must…..die……….
    even if it’s at the beginning of season four.

  208. Cary Storm
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Alex:
    Sorry, I forgot to spoiler-black out some of my first post, like Balon’s death.

    Alex, this is a free thread. Spoiler away. It’s fine. Even the end of ADWD and beyond.

  209. Bryon Blofstein
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Joaquin,

    i think episode 10 will be Joff’s wedding. it would be awsome to see the the season end with Cat’s coming back and rolling to credits.

  210. Julian Walker
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    I don’t mean to be that guy, but is Rob Stark’s death kinda overrated? I mean I think the Red Wedding is more devastating than any other event in the series so far but is it the method that George killed off the Starks that has most readers recoiling in fear or the emotional investment. I care about Robb, but not like I care about some of the other characters. I think the Red Wedding is so heart wrenching because of the head swap multiple stabbings and deaths AND because its told from Catelyn Tully’s point of view. A mother whom we have know through books 1 2 and 3 sees her child killed right before she herself is killed.

    I dunno, I just don’t feel much emotional attachment to the character of Robb. Not to say I don’t feel sorry for him, but his death was heart breaking only (to me) because of HOW he died and the eyes his death is seen through.

  211. TheWoodOfTheMorning
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    I’m hoping they show Dany actually conquering Meereen.
    Since that’s only mentioned in the books after the fact, I’d like to see Ser Jorah, Ser Barristan, Strong Belwas, etc. climb through the shitty sewers to take Meereen unawares.

    The Wildlings scaling the Wall should also be pretty baller.

    Do we think the Magnar & his wildings storming Castle Black will be this season or next? Regardless, that has potential to be awesome, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s cut due to cost & want of other battle scenes.

  212. TheWoodOfTheMorning
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Julian Walker,

    I agree. Since Robb isn’t a POV character, I don’t feel for him like I do EVERY other Stark (aside from Rickon, who up until this point could not even exist in the books–we’ll see what happens with him in the future though).

    That said, I think his death in the show is going to be different since Richard Madden’s Robb Stark is a well beloved character and was adapted into a somewhat-POV character (much more than in the books anyway). GRRM will receive bundles of angry fan mail from young ladies after the RW episode.

  213. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    TheWoodOfTheMorning,

    bookwise
    I think Rickon will end up as lord of winterfell

  214. iRaven
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Julian Walker,

    I think you’re right in that Robb’s death isn’t that shocking. The head switch and Bolton betrayal is what is a little more shocking, but what really seals the deal is Cat’s throat getting cut and her naked corpse being thrown into the river. That is so over the top and unexpected and brutal. Not to mention she loses her mind and starts clawing her face off before she dies. That to me was what made the Red Wedding so shocking

  215. Darren Mason
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Beric Dondarrion Vs. The Hound

  216. WildSeed
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    daroe:
    Although it won’t be in season 3 one of my favorite moments in SOS was Jaime admitting to Tyrion that Tysha was, in fact, not a whore.

    Yes…..and that betrayal cut deep for poor Tyrion, but you’re also correct
    that it will not be included as a scene on GoT.

  217. WildSeed
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming:
    Thanks for being careful but you all don’t need to mark your spoilers in his thread. :)

    For those who did not read above…………………..and me…..in case I forget !

  218. Michael
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Michael Tschuertz:
    TheWoodOfTheMorning,

    bookwiseI think Rickon will end up as lord of winterfell

    Strongly agree on this. I’ve talked about that very fact at great length with some friends on another forum. I think/hope/feel Davos will rescue Rickon and Osha and bring them to Stannis.

    Stannis can then use Rickon to get the Northerners to break ties with Bolton and rally to his cause. I can see Osha serving Rickon in Winterfell and she can work to get the Wildings to fall in line and defend the north from the invasion of the Others.

  219. KeepWritingGeorge
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    i’m really hoping they do the stuff with Joffrey in this season. It was the only solace I got from the RW. But I’m also personally looking forward to seeing the fight at the Fist.

  220. Ser Tahu
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    Michael Tschuertz:
    Am i crazy for wanting a constant season 3. With all killer & now filler episodes with good storylines and whatnotß

    For The RW:
    I am the only person in my friendsgroup who has read the books and lucky me the others refuse to read them for now. They all asking me what is going to happen in episode 9. the only thing I told them that season 3 &4 will have three weddings and countless deaths.

    there will be four weddings in these two seasons, not 3.
    season 3: Tyrion-Sansa, Edmure-Roslin
    season 4: Joffrey-Margaery, Petyr-Lysa

  221. sunspear
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    They might also move up the Tommen-Margaery marriage into season 4.

  222. McTrigger
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    On a “related” note, I like how everyone here’s been drooling all over Tom Wlaschiha. He’s been busy appearing in basically every other cringe-inducing German basic cable comedy of the past 10 years and I’ve been spotting him in reruns a fair number of times in these last few weeks. I can’t help but feel happy for the guy. He’s finally made it. He”ll finally be able to move past the sins of his youth. More power to him.

  223. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Why can’t it be in season 4? I can visualize just as Tyrion is about to escape Jaime tells him the truth. The look on Dinklage’s face will say it all.
    Varys: let’s go.
    Tyrion: I have to say goodbye to someone….
    Cut to Tywin’s bed chamber. Perfect.

  224. WildSeed
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    The scene you describe would be excellent, even plausible to the writers, but
    I’m not sure if that was the reference of Daroe’s post. Your suggestion
    focuses on the events surrounding Tyrion’s revenge. The earlier post
    ( not mine ) referred simply to Jaime’s reveal to Tyrion, that moment
    only to admitting to the betrayal of Tysha. Although all these borrow
    from the same few pages , I would have to lower my expectations of
    GoT including all in these effectual moments in the script. If they did so,
    I would probably well up in affection and forgive them for any previous
    misstep that’s occurred or likely to occur, in any season ( okay, that’s an
    exaggeration, but you get my point ).

    Why aren’t Benioff and Weiss hiring people to sort out ASOIAF web boards
    for these tasty ideas. There are quite a few morsels posted here, not to dismiss
    the episode lists by some. I ‘m impressed by a worthy few that should be
    stolen and ferreted away ( by the extras that occasionally visit ) to the
    writers. Anyway, those pages had me quite taken aback at how cunning Tyrion
    is in all things.

  225. WildSeed
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu: there will be four weddings in these two seasons, not 3.
    season 3: Tyrion-Sansa, Edmure-Roslin
    season 4: Joffrey-Margaery, Petyr-Lysa

    Hmmmmm……….. reasonable…..I wonder if they’ll try that…

  226. KG
    Posted November 17, 2012 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    It’s the witch of High Heart that has a vision of the fish-woman opening her eyes, not Nymeria.

  227. A Man Grown
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    I thought that dreadful song would never end. But look, here comes my cheese.

  228. Blazel
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    Not really a scene, but I can’t wait to see Paul Kaye’s performance as Thoros. A great actor and legend of late 90s TV, I’m sure he’ll hit it out the park. Hope it’s a pretty substantial role.

  229. Darquemode
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Julian Walker,

    Agreed.
    It was situational effect and not emotional for me. I had no attachment to Robb and honestly I assumed he would be killed as soon as I read he married Jeyne and ignored his previous bethrothal. I Also disliked Catelyn’s actions in ASOS, so neither death bothered me much personally. However, reading about the caranage from her POV was an emotional experience.

    Part of me was almost cheering inside as I enjoyed being shocked by GRRM’s writing. So many, if not most Fantasy books are so formulaic that I was really enjoying the fact that in GRRM’s world no one is safe and even the seemingly “unkillable” characters were being killed off!

    If the other Stark kids are killed off I will have more personal reactions, but Robb and Catelyn’s actual deaths did not affect me much, unlike how they died, which did affect me.

  230. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I have to say despite how pumped I am to see the Red Wedding go down, I cannot wait for the Tyrion/Tywin final scene. I can picture Charles Dance, defiant even in the sights of a crossbow just snarling: “where whores go.”

    That is going to be a quite a scene. You would have to be Uwe Boll to mess up that moment.

  231. Arkash
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    Yeah, I always forget that we get 4 weddings in Storm !

    And that none of them turns out really good, actually…

  232. mags giantsbabe
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    The scene where Robb tells Cat that he wants to make Jon heir is quite pivotal. That’s why I hope to the gods, old and new, like many others, that Talisa doesn’t turn out to be pregnant in S3

  233. Hirondelle
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Cajunman:
    This may be a bit different, but I really look forward to the scene where Rob and his mother talk about his legacy and kingdom on a hill near a king’s tomb that has been worn smooth by time. That’s an amazing allusion to Ozymandias and foreshadowing at its best.

    Ozymandias
    I met a traveller from an antique landWho said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stoneStand in the desart. Near them, on the sand,Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,Tell that its sculptor well those passions readWhich yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:And on the pedestal these words appear:“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”Nothing beside remains. Round the decayOf that colossal wreck, boundless and bareThe lone and level sands stretch far away.

    Astute and intriguing!
    It reminds me of this one time here on WiC. net when someone minutely listed all the many analogies/similarities/references to the Norse Ragnarök saga found in Martin’s story.

  234. Tereeza777
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    McTrigger:
    On a “related” note, I like how everyone here’s been drooling all over Tom Wlaschiha. He’s been busy appearing in basically every other cringe-inducing German basic cable comedy of the past 10 years and I’ve been spotting him in reruns a fair number of times in these last few weeks. I can’t help but feel happy for the guy. He’s finally made it. He”ll finally be able to move past the sins of his youth. More power to him.

    McTrigger,

    One of the “drooling” Tom Wlaschiha fan girls here. My entire belly dance troupe adores him too and even my boyfriend is a fan! He is a living doll and we’re happy for him as well. Jaqen/Tom’s European fan girls have uploaded to Tumblr most of those “cringe-inducing” German sitcoms you’re talking about. Since none of us speaks German it’s hard to tell if they’re good or bad, but it sure is nice listening to Tom’s deep, resonant voice, which is almost as beautiful as his eyes. We’re all hoping he returns to GoT in season 4 – preferably bathing in the Turkish Baths of Braavos (since they left out the Hot Tub scene at Harrenhal).

  235. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Hirondelle,

    Except of course that Percy Shelley was referring to the tyrant Ozymandias the Greek name for the one and only Pharoah Ramses II who ruled a great empire and enslaved thousands to build great works. It can be interpreted that the poem mocks the ends of all tyrants who were once so proud and powerful and yet like Ramses, like the emperors of Rome, like tyrants where are they now?
    If anything the scene reminds me of Return of the King when travelling through the Morgul vale Sam and Frodo find a statue of Isildur/Elendil? With his head REPLACED by an rude makeshift orc’s head yet in the grass nearby is the actual head of the Numenorean king. A grim site this is at first but when the sunshine falls upon the flowers growing around the statue’s crown it soon resembles an actual crown. Therefore this scene with the statue of the fallen king could be another deconstruction of high fantasy. That Robb is not Aragorn, that despite all the omens for a return of the greatness of old this trope will not be followed through. The following chapters ensure that sentiment.

    But regardless of my thoughts, it is one possible interpretation :-)

  236. Michael Tschuertz
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 10:01 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    oh see it has been quit a while since i read Storm. thx for that.

  237. Hirondelle
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    (I am familiar with Shelley’s poem and it’s background ;o)

    You responding at such (interesting) length is exactly why I like this sort of post: it kicks off fascinating discussions that gather a wealth of possible interpretations and fresh ways of looking at the story we love so much.

    The literary device of foreshadowing and Martin’s approach to it is, imho, one of the many things that make these books anything but your run-of-the-mill fantasy.

    For me, the scene in question drove home the ages upon ages of Westeros history and how there are stories beneath stories everywhere, as in our own world…

  238. Pastor_of_Muppets
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    No way the Purple Wedding makes it into season three, nor should it. Season four will be the downfall of the Lannister family, with Joffrey and Tywin both dying, Jaime denying Cersei, and Tyrion on the run. I also don’t think D&D would waste the opportunity to expand the role of Oberyn Martell, since his character allows them to bring the Dornish characters into the story line in a way that feels organic and natural.

    I also don’t think that D&D are foolish enough to discount the powerful endings that ASoS provides for each of the characters, by pushing too far forward into AFfC & ADwD territory. Sure, they won’t be adapting books as concisely as they have been, but that doesn’t mean they’ll leave ASoS behind in the middle of season four and end the season wherever they can get to with the remaining episodes. That’d just be bad writing/planning.

    What’s more likely is that Joffrey will die early in season four, and Oberyn’s role will be beefed up. Not only because he’s one of the best characters in the series, but he’s also the perfect gateway to bringing Dorne into the fold. I expect we’ll also see the chronologically relevant material from the Iron Islands in this season, as well.

    As for season three… I’m looking forward to pretty much all of it. Especially interested to see how they implement Riverrun, the Reed siblings, Stannis’ family, and Ramsay Snow (…never Snow…) into this season. Which is another thing some people seem to be forgetting about this season – there is a lot of material from ACoK we’ll be seeing this year. I think they made the right decision to push the introduction of these characters back, personally. The first two seasons were crowded enough as they were.

    I guess my main hope for this coming season and the next is that they take their time and don’t rush through the quieter moments just to get to the big ones (as it seems a lot of people would prefer). The characters all go through a lot of changes in ASoS, and that’s always been my favorite thing about the book, so hopefully it plays out like this…

    Season 3: ASoS up to the aftermath of the Red Wedding, with the characters and plots pushed back from ACoK.

    Season 4: The remainder of ASoS, with the chronologically relevant material from Dorne and the Iron Islands in AFfC/ADwD. Ends roughly where the third book does, although it may extend a little beyond (i.e. Tyrion arrives in Pentos).

  239. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Hirondelle,

    Confession: Ozymandias is my favorite Poem and Shelley my favorite poet. Ozymandias will be the foreword to the novel I am currently writing.

  240. jeni
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    a man actually having sex with most of his clothes off instead of only the woman being completely nude would be nice.

  241. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Game of Thrones graphic tease coming tonight and airing before boardwalk empire!

    How awesome would it be if these are the words spoken in the tease: “Rhaegar fought valiantly, Rhaegar fought bravely, Rhaegar fought honorably, and Rhaegar died”

  242. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    McTrigger:
    On a “related” note, I like how everyone here’s been drooling all over Tom Wlaschiha. He’s been busy appearing in basically every other cringe-inducing German basic cable comedy of the past 10 years and I’ve been spotting him in reruns a fair number of times in these last few weeks. I can’t help but feel happy for the guy. He’s finally made it. He”ll finally be able to move past the sins of his youth. More power to him.

    From your lips to the gods ears! A woman agrees wholeheartedly, and would love to see a return of Jaqen/Tom in some future season.

  243. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    How about “he has a song, he is the prince that was promised, his is a song of ice and fire”

    I can see Barristan quoting that as well.

  244. TheWoodOfTheMorning
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Michael: Strongly agree on this. I’ve talked about that very fact at great length with some friends on another forum. I think/hope/feel Davos will rescue Rickon and Osha and bring them to Stannis.

    Stannis can then use Rickon to get the Northerners to break ties with Bolton and rally to his cause. I can see Osha serving Rickon in Winterfell and she can work to get the Wildings to fall in line and defend the north from the invasion of the Others.

    So do you think Bran will stay with the three-eyed crow beyond the Wall? I find it hard to believe that the Reeds & Hodor would stay there with him forever, and if they leave I think Bran would want to leave as well. But could they survive a trip back?

    Moreover, do you all think we’ll meet Howland Reed in the next 2 books? He’s the only one still alive who knows what happened at the Tower of Joy. Unless he told Meera and Jojen (like he did about the Tourney at Harrenhall)?

  245. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets:
    No way the Purple Wedding makes it into season three, nor should it. Season four will be the downfall of the Lannister family…
    …Season 3: ASoS up to the aftermath of the Red Wedding, with the characters and plots pushed back from ACoK.

    Season 4: The remainder of ASoS, with the chronologically relevant material from Dorne and the Iron Islands in AFfC/ADwD. Ends roughly where the third book does, although it may extend a little beyond (i.e. Tyrion arrives in Pentos).

    You make much sense, a woman thinks that your timeline is spot on! Saving the PW and the Dornish for S4 is practical and would be the appropriate time to introduce new “blood” to the mix IMO also after other arcs are completed. Bravo for expressing this so well!

  246. Oracle
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    >>What will they do with Talisa…

    Kill her off

  247. Zack
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Pastor_of_Muppets,

    Agree wholeheartedly with this. I don’t understand why cramming Joff’s death into this season would seem so logical to so many people. What’s the rush?

  248. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Tereeza777: McTrigger,

    One of the “drooling” Tom Wlaschiha fan girls here… We’re all hoping he returns to GoT in season 4–preferably bathing in the Turkish Baths of Braavos (since they left out the HotTub scene at Harrenhal).

    Ah, the dream will never die…would that D&D have future plans for our Jaqen/Tom! There are so many possibilities for him to show up in Braavos, a woman was thinking that he could very well show up in the Temple where Arya resides as well, or as a sailor on the docks, so many possibilities for Faceless Man!

  249. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    Me neither, it would be cheap to kill Joffrey so soon after the Red Wedding. It’s best to kill Joff early season 4 when no one will be expecting it. I personally think it would be a bold but clevet move to kill him in the season premiere.

  250. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    TheWoodOfTheMorning: So do you think Bran will stay with the three-eyed crow beyond the Wall?I find it hard to believe that the Reeds & Hodor would stay there with him forever, and if they leave I think Bran would want to leave as well.But could they survive a trip back?

    Moreover, do you all think we’ll meet Howland Reed in the next 2 books?He’s the only one still alive who knows what happened at the Tower of Joy.Unless he told Meera and Jojen (like he did about the Tourney at Harrenhall)?

    This woman thinks that Bran has a specific goal while training with the 3-eyed crow, and perhaps will stay there only through the long winter with his companions to emerge in the Spring and return to Winterfell with more powers and knowledge that will help his family recover from the traumas of the harsh winter they have endured in order to help the realm renew itself and move into an era of peace and prosperity with a benevolent ruler after vanquishing the powers of evil. Just guessing and dreaming of course.

  251. KG
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    Remember the story of the Night King, where one Stark brother kills the other? Yeah.

  252. Zack
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    It’s been too long since I’ve read SoS for me to have any sense of clarity about the timeframe, are we certain there would be enough material to fill 9 hours if they do that? I had thought Joff’s death could take place around the midpoint, like Viserys’ E6 (?) death in S1.

    But putting it in the first episode would set the tone nicely for the season, so if they could make it work without the season feeling a bit empty in the middle episodes I’d be all for it.

  253. Hirondelle
    Posted November 18, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Hirondelle,

    Confession: Ozymandias is my favorite Poem and Shelley my favorite poet. Ozymandias will be the foreword to the novel I am currently writing.

    Yes, Shelley’s work is wondrous indeed.
    Best of luck for your novel! Speaking from experience, writing takes a lot of commitment and, well, space. Mostly though, you just gotta love it.

  254. mashiara
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 4:48 am | Permalink

    Rygar:
    I really hope that Season three reveals where whores actually go in order to save all of us from commiserating the answer to this inquiry in Seasons 5 or 6.

    That is one of the best comments ever! you made me LoL!…so much so that I had laughing tears :) Yes PLEASE, Sir George Martin tell us….where DO whores go?

  255. mashiara
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Bryon Blofstein:
    Joaquin,

    i think episode 10 will be Joff’s wedding.it would be awsome to see the the season end with Cat’s coming back and rolling to credits.

    Well I agree with the second half of that statement. I know it would be a little out of the time line from the book, (if they’re separating it into 2 seasons) but that epilogue is a perfect way to end the 3rd season. The outlaws are questioning Merrett Frey and….“She don’t speak,” said the big man in the yellow cloak. “You bloody bastards cut her throat too deep for that. But she remembers.” He turned to the dead woman and said, “What do you say, m’lady? Was he part of it?”
    Lady Catelyn’s eyes never left him. She nodded.
    Merrett Frey opened his mouth to plead, but the noose choked off his words. His feet left the ground, the rope cutting deep into the soft flesh beneath his chin. Up into the air he jerked, kicking and twisting, up and up and up…..and as the screen fades to black all you hear is the gurgling, and choking of a dying Frey.

  256. Femfelis
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar,

    I wonder how they’ll capture Cat’s bemused state of mind at the RW–or if they’ll even try? It was such a subtle approach in the book, as we watched through her eyes and her moods. In a way, it had a softening effect–at least at first. And then, as the reality of the wedding hit, your devastation, like hers, was total. I have to say that I dread this scene. Even thinking about it gives my gut an adrenalin punch (and I don’t mean that in a nice way)!

  257. Joaquin
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    I think D&D need to show Shae behaving more like a whore than his girlfriend or else i feel she wont be killed by tyrion.

  258. Joaquin
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    Joffs death cant be on the first episode of season 4 because first they have to introduce oberyn martell, the tension between the tyrells and martells. I think it will happen around episode 6. I really hope they use only the material from a SOS on season 4 because our dear George writes incredible stuff but really slow and i think D&D know this so they willl exploit each book.

  259. Joaquin
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    mashiara</strI

    I agree with the first part:Well I agree with the second half of that statement. I know it would be a little out of the time line from the book, (if they’re separating it into 2 seasons) but that epilogue is a perfect way to end the 3rd season. The outlaws are questioning Merrett Frey and….“She don’t speak,” said the big man in the yellow cloak. “You bloody bastards cut her throat too deep for that. But she remembers.” He turned to the dead woman and said, “What do you say, m’lady? Was he part of it?”
    Lady Catelyn’s eyes never left him. She nodded.

    Now imagine a close up with a little bit of zoom in on Cats eyes and then you listen Meret pleading for his life and then BUM credits. That will blow my mind!!!!

  260. Darquemode
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Joaquin,

    I would bet there will be material from AFfCin Season 4 since some of it fits into the latter part of ASoS chronologically. Outside of that I agree, I hope they do not progress too far into AFfC material

  261. sunspear
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Joaquin,

    That’s a pretty huge number of episodes to be introducing Oberyn Martell, without a whole lot going on. I’m expecting them to introduce Oberyn in episode 1 and then kill Joffrey in episoded. And there will be significant AFFC material in season 4.

    On a side note, I find it strange that we seem to spend more time predicting the pace for season 4 than for season 3. We need to bring back the ‘scripting episode X’ posts!

  262. Peter
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Oracle: >>What will they do with Talisa…Kill her off

    Agreed. I think they’ll find an excuse to have Talisa at the RW and she’ll just be another casualty. Probably the easiest way to handle it.

  263. mashiara
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    Joaquin,

    Now imagine a close up with a little bit of zoom in on Cats eyes and then you listen Meret pleading for his life and then BUM credits.

    yes! that’s it, as long as we get 1 shot of him getting strung up, it’s perfect….ok go tell HBO we have an ending for the 3rd season :)

  264. maddog
    Posted November 19, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Can we hope for a twist where Talisa gets killed as well? Given the way they changed her character from the book there’s really no point in keeper her alive. Every minute she is on screen does injustice to the entire storyline. I would like to know who was the brilliant person at HBO that thought a marriage between Robb Stark and a family sworn the to Lannisters should be replaced with this foolish girl who comes to Westeros because she’s against slavery. Big step down there, folks

  265. Pau Soriano
    Posted November 20, 2012 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Hirondelle,

    Confession: Ozymandias is my favorite Poem and Shelley my favorite poet. Ozymandias will be the foreword to the novel I am currently writing.

    I’d like to read that novel…any hints about what’s about?

  266. TheWalkingDave
    Posted November 20, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Michael Harper,

    Can’t wait for this. Ramsay is being played by Iwan Rheon. He’s so creepy looking and I think he’ll nail this part.

  267. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 21, 2012 at 12:07 am | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    It will either be one giant ass tome. Or it will be a two part series. Maybe even a trilogy. I wrote what will probably be the second book back in the early 2000’s. It was almost 700 pages but I still needed to do a final draft. I got too involved in my 3rd and 4th year of university to work on the final draft and by the time that I felt like writing again, I found myself not as happy with the basic story as I was before. I tried many times to rewrite it but life and my own laziness kept getting in the way. There was no way I could leave the story as it was. My learning experience during university made me see the world in a lot of different ways and I felt that my voice was too naive. I had to adjust it, make it more than what it was. Anyway, here I am now suddenly struck with the creative force again and it seems to be flowing.

    Essentially it is a post apocalyptic science fiction epic detailing the rise and fall of a great empire that has conquered the known world. Thrown in some with fantasy overtones. My chief inspiration was my own passion for imperial Rome and the novel series The Masters of Rome by Colleen McCullough (the GRRM of Ancient Rome) as well as the works of George Orwell, Aldous Huxley and most importantly Frank Herbert’s Dune series and Walther M Mitchell’s novel A Canticle For Liebowitz. There’s a strong neoclassicism about this futuristic society but the dynastic and religious struggles present in the Dune series and the grittiness and Dickensian nature of ASOIAF is also present as well as the dystopian philosophies of Orwell, Huxley and even Philip K Dick.

    That’s all I can say about it at the moment. :-)

  268. Hirondelle
    Posted November 21, 2012 at 5:19 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Informative yet spoiler-free. Nice! I didn’t dare ask what your novel was about, since some artists are very sensitive and secretive about their works-in-progress, but I’m glad Pau Soriano did it for me! ;o)
    Be it music or literature, I love to know where/who an artist draws his or her inspiration from, which threads they’re picking up and carrying forward. You know, standing on the shoulders of giants…

  269. Pau Soriano
    Posted November 21, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Pau Soriano,

    It will either be one giant ass tome. Or it will be a two part series. Maybe even a trilogy. I wrote what will probably be the second book back in the early 2000′s. It was almost 700 pages but I still needed to do a final draft. I got too involved in my 3rd and 4th year of university to work on the final draft and by the time that I felt like writing again, I found myself not as happy with the basic story as I was before. I tried many times to rewrite it but life and my own laziness kept getting in the way. There was no way I could leave the story as it was. My learning experience during university made me see the world in a lot of different ways and I felt that my voice was too naive. I had to adjust it, make it more than what it was. Anyway, here I am now suddenly struck with the creative force again and it seems to be flowing.

    Essentially it is a post apocalyptic science fiction epic detailing the rise and fall ofa great empire that has conquered the known world. Thrown in some with fantasy overtones. My chief inspiration was my own passion for imperial Rome and the novel series The Masters of Rome by Colleen McCullough (theGRRM of Ancient Rome) as well as the works of George Orwell, Aldous Huxley and most importantly Frank Herbert’s Dune series and Walther M Mitchell’s novel A Canticle For Liebowitz. There’s a strong neoclassicism about this futuristic society but the dynastic and religious struggles present in the Dune series and the grittiness and Dickensian nature of ASOIAF is also present as well as the dystopian philosophies of Orwell, Huxley and even Philip K Dick.

    That’s all I can say about it at the moment. :-)

    Well thats quite a bit, really ambitious ;)

    I remember talking with you about McCullough and her series, wich I really like, and of course everyone loves (or should love!) Dune, Orwell (have you read Homage to Catalonia?) Huxley and Dick (well, Dick is a bit problematic for me) but I never heard about Walther M. Mitchell or A Canticle For Liebowitz. I’ll be sure to check that out.

    I think taking into account the epic scope of your story it will fit better into trilogy than in a standalone tome. Also came to my mind The Malazan Book of the Fallen, but I’m not sure if that is what you’r aiming for…I didn’t really connect with the characers and let that series go halfway through the second book.

    Anyway, I wish you the best of lucks and I’d be delighted to read it sometimes, be it in it’s published form, or as a manuscript ;)

  270. you-know-nothing
    Posted November 21, 2012 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    All of the scenes in season 3 will epic. Book 3 is by far the best book of the series so far. But my favourite scene in book 3 is right at the end. The scene with Sansa, Lysa and Littlefinger… you all know what scene i mean!! Obvs it will be moved to season 4 of the T.V show as the Red Viper hasn’t been cast and he is present at Joffreys wedding which happens well before this scene. But still, i can’t wait for it.

    Sansa is my favourite character. I know not a lot of fans like her, but i seriously can’t wait for the direction her story going in. Plus, Littlefinger is so intriguing.

  271. Joshua Taylor
    Posted November 21, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    Nothing like Malazan at all. I am halfway through Malazan and am enjoying it but its no ASOIAF.

    And by Dick I am probably more or less asserting the aesthetics of Blade Runner lol.

    Another force of influence would be Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash.

  272. mmf144
    Posted November 25, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    Most convincing post of the discussion (er, that far into it) – first time poster meself, eeeeeek! Lovin the discussions in here.

  273. Jen@House Stark
    Posted November 26, 2012 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Jaime’s wet kraken in the tub!!!

    Hear, hear! Pass me the bathtub scene please!

  274. kody christensen
    Posted November 29, 2012 at 1:31 am | Permalink

    Michael Harper,

    Iwan Rheon will play Ramsay

  275. Pau Soriano
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Pau Soriano,

    Nothing like Malazan at all. I am halfway through Malazan and am enjoying it but its no ASOIAF.

    And by Dick I am probably more or less asserting the aesthetics of Blade Runner lol.

    Another force of influence would be Neal Stephenson’s Snow Crash.

    Snow Crash, really nice…loved all the references to summerian goddesses etc :)

  276. Marius Gausel Trones
    Posted March 3, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    I am really looking forward to the scene when the all-hated boy Joffrey is getting choked by the poisonous wine. I will enjoy every second of it, and i will play the scene over and over again.

  277. Marius Gausel Trones
    Posted March 3, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Darren Mason,

    I hope they put up an epic battle theme. Beric Dondarrion with his flaming sword and awesomeness, and the Hound’s strenght and brutality. I am looking forward to the scene like a child who has gotten a toy that he has wished for a long time!

  278. Marius Gausel Trones
    Posted March 3, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    The end of a storm of swords shocked be a little bit. When Arya dreamt that nymeria found catelyn stark by the river and the men came i knew something would happened. When catelyn resurrected i thought that the men in the dream was the outlaws because she was with them in the end of the book. But how is Catelyn alive? When one of the outlaws said ” it’s my turn to be Beric Dondarrion” my first thought was that he has died his last death. So i think Beric gave his life for the resurrection of Catelyn, and the priest made his God take Beric’s life for Catelyn’s.


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