Mero cast
By Ours is the Fury on in Casting.

English actor Mark Killeen has been cast in the role of Mero, the Titan’s Bastard, for season 3 of Game of Thrones.

He has appeared in such films as The Dark Knight Rises, Rise of the Footsoldier, and the upcoming sequel, 300:Rise of an Empire, and on several British television shows including Doctor Who and Waking the Dead. Killeen played the role of Vincent Catalano in the feature, The Callback Queen, a film with a character in fact based on George R.R. Martin. This caused some unintended speculation here in May of 2011, after Martin referenced the movie on his blog.

Mero, a Braavosi nicknamed the Titan’s Bastard, is captain of a sellsword company called the Second Sons. Daenerys meets the captain during her travels in Essos. According to the actor’s CV, he’ll be appearing in episode 8,  directed by Michelle MacLaren.

UPDATE: It looks like Killeen has upload a photo of himself in costume as Mero to IMDb.

Ours is the Fury: Thanks to WiC commenter Carne for tipping us off to the casting!


130 Comments

  1. the other guy
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    I just re-watched The Dark Knight Rises 2 days ago and I don’t even remember the guy :o who does he play ?
    Anyway, good to see some casting news, even thought I can’t wait for a trailer. I know they just gave us the production video, but man, I need more !

  2. Team Sansa
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    First!

  3. Team Sansa
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Team Sansa,

    Agh! 2nd.

  4. Michel
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    IMDB says that he is gonna appears in 3×08..I think it’s fake, I doubt all the stuff in Astapor and Dracarys would be resolved in 7 episodes, I would guess episode 9 or 10

  5. Ours is the Fury
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    It’s not fake. It’s on his Spotlight CV as well. It’s likely that they’ve combined some aspects and that Dany won’t be in all three cities.

  6. Watson
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Astapor is only one chapter in the book. It’s not that much to wrap up.

    Also, in the correcting things I don’t in the least bit care about department, my understanding is that this 300 cash grab is prequel not a sequel.

  7. sunspear
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I don’t see why that need change anything. They could easily get through the Astapor plot in seven episodes:

    Ep. 1: Assination attempt, Dany gets ships
    Ep. 2: Jorah comes up with the unsullied plan.
    Ep. 4: Arrival in Astapor, introduction of Unsullied.
    Ep. 5: Purchase of Unsullied, Dracarys.
    Ep. 6: Dany leaves Astapor in the hands of a council
    Ep. 8: Yunkai subplot.

    Ep. 10: Outriders find the first slave child nailed to a door.
    That makes for a fine arc, and includes all three cities.

  8. Rygar
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    So who fights him?

    I say Dany’s sister Daario.

  9. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    One of my favorite scenes in ASOS, Mero vs Barristan :)

  10. Ser Tahu
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    I think that the Yunkai/sellsword plot will take up episodes 6-9, and that Daenerys’ storyline will end with her departing Yunkai, and saying that they are heading towards Meereen.

    I think that they will save the road to Meereen for episodes 1-4 of season 4, the siege of Meereen for episodes 5-8, the Jorah-Barristan reveals for episode 9, and the sack of Meereen for episode 10

  11. Ours is the Fury
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    A sequel is a subsequent movie in a series. Prequel’s just a type of sequel. But really I don’t care. :)
    I assume that Barristan fights off Mero’s assassination attempt as he does in the book.

  12. Rygar
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Ah, I was thinking of the guy who Belwas fights. Nevermind.

    So who would win in a fight. Belwas or Jaime pre Brienne?

  13. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Jaime would slice the unarmoured fatty to shreds.

  14. Rygar
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    I agree. Jaime or Syrio?

  15. db
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    I see, so not only are the Braavosi not supposed to be white, but they are inventing new white characters to include in this show because they obviously don’t have enough………..

  16. Winter Is Coming
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    db:
    I see, so not only are the Braavosi not supposed to be white, but they are inventing new white characters to include in this show because they obviously don’t have enough………..

    Wait, what? Isn’t Mero white in the book? He’s a ginger, if I recall.

  17. Rygar
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Wow. Really. You are going there.

  18. db
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Is he actually a book character then? Why can’t I remember him at all…. Anyway, Syrio was from Braavos, he wasn’t white….

  19. Alex
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    I think Jaime could take Syrio.

  20. Joshua Taylor
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    db,

    Also “inventing”? Mero is in the books friend.

  21. Rygar
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    Ros is not from Braavos.

    And she has great tits.

  22. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    db,

    Mero is ‘The Titan’s Bastard’. He was the captain of the Second Sons in the book. The Braavosi are former slaves from Valyria. Valyrians are white, if I’m not mistaken(just look at the Targaryens). Braavos isn’t so isolated that it is one single race. The only characters that need to be non-white are the Martells,Summer Islanders, and those with Ghiscari blood(Slaver’s Bay).

  23. Leuf
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    So Asha is too close to Osha, but Mero isn’t too close to Meera? I’m not still bitter about that or anything…

  24. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:21 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Speaking of which, I can’t wait to get a glimpse of the renowned whores of Braavos.

  25. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Leuf,

    Meh, Mero will be in only one or two episodes. It will likely be pronounced (May-Roh) anyway, so it won’t sound like Meera.

  26. Ren Snow
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    db,

    Braavos was founded by slaves, it makes sense that the Braavosi are a multitude of ethnicities… just like the rest of the Free Cities (think of Salladhor Saan and Doreah)

  27. db
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    So they should only cast PoC if it’s needed, otherwise everyone is white by default lol i see

  28. Joshua Taylor
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:29 pm | Permalink

    db,

    Hmmm something tells me you are trying to start to something aside from the epic fail of accusing the producers of making up a character. Despite the fact that the character is white in the books.

  29. db
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    The ethnicity of the character is actually not specified in the books.

  30. db
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    And it’s not as if inventing characters is beyond the producers lol

  31. Joshua Taylor
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    db,

    But that has nothing to do with this post lol they have invented characters lol but this wasn’t one of them lol what are you trying to say lol

  32. Brock Russell
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Permalink
  33. ABL89
    Posted December 3, 2012 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    Yah, cause Xaro Xoan Daxos is totally a black man in the books. Just like in the show.

  34. glenn
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:16 am | Permalink

    Hmm maybe ned stark should have been cast black and all his kids mixed race. or maybe cersei but with a white twin!! Some ppl can whinge about anything.

  35. Solar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    db,

    actually syrio was white.

  36. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Rygar,

    Jaime would slice the unarmoured fatty to shreds.

    Not if Belwas were to be played by someone such as Sammo Hung, or Bolo Yeung, or another large but nimble martial arts star (there are a few around).

  37. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:50 am | Permalink

    Brock Russell:
    Could this be him in costume?
    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3835800576/nm2075330

    Looks pretty badass…will be an action-filled season!

  38. Amsterpaul
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    This is awesome news. Please keep this info coming!

  39. Lord Of Lite
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    Listen, I’m so tired of this race baiting. History didn’t begin and end with the Civil War. The Romans and South Americans made slaves out of all races. Any colored skin at all that was defeated by another society was ripe for subjugation. I know that some races are portrayed as people of color who have been subjugated by white people. I hate to break it to you but white people aren’t white. They are people of color as well. Anyone American who descends from the peoples of Europe are not white people. They are Euro-Americans who had ancestry of slaves in their past. Just as Americans who descends from African ancestors are Afro-Americans who are slave ancestry in their past. Same with Hispanic Americans whom history teaches as having ancestor enslaved in the past. So let’s all live together people. The backstory of Essos and our own history is bigger than us all.

  40. WildSeed
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    Lord Of Lite,

    Thanks for trying.

    I’m looking forward to the Second Sons, but I’m not anticipating much
    involvement in season three. Mero may be introduced, as others, but
    S3 already has a ambitious agenda to demonstrate.

  41. Maester Tcost
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Yes, I agree that our history is bigger than us all; but the theme of slavery and Dany’s efforts to erase it are definitely part of what make ASOIAF a very American work of literature. It’s also a mostly non-religious way to make Dany such a messiah figure.

    We need more POC in the series, but I’m just as glad that they haven’t made Mero a POC. If we’re going to have more of them, more of them should be good guys.

    And the Martells can be white too. Moors aren’t always black. Sean Connery famously played one.

  42. cwolf
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:53 am | Permalink

    The Dark Knight Rises
    Rise of the Footsoldier
    300: Rise of an Empire

    I hope the episode 8 will be called “The Mother of Dragons Rises”.

  43. Lula
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:59 am | Permalink

    I have a question, when do the trailers usually start to come out?

  44. Chickenduck
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 4:45 am | Permalink

    db:

    The ethnicity of the character is actually not specified in the books.

    Actually, he’s described as as having pale green eyes and red-blonde hair, so I’d say he’s probably pretty white in the books. Good chance of freckles even.

    And anyway, everyone else from Braavos has been played by a European so far, Syrio Forel was played by a Brit of Greek background, Jaqen was played by a German…

    Seriously, have you read the books or are you just trolling?

  45. Chickenduck
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 4:48 am | Permalink

    (The first line of the last comment was meant to be a quote from db’s previous comment, not sure how the tag got lost).

  46. babar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 4:58 am | Permalink

    Lula,

    Last year, we got the first full-length trailer on 29 January (the one with Varys’ riddle).

    Here’s the production timeline of past years, if you want to take a look by yourself: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Production_timeline

    ;-)

  47. Jay Sutherland
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:11 am | Permalink

    Oh man! I worked with Mark on The Callback Queen. He’s a good guy.
    Whilst I’m happy for him, I’m kinda envious that everyone I know is at least getting auditions for the show and I haven’t even met the casting director! Grrr.

  48. Eleanor
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:14 am | Permalink

    I can definitely see that man having a presence, and saying “That is so. No woman forgets the Titan’s Bastard” without laughing.

  49. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    Mero but still no Strong Belwas, sigh, I will always remember you big guy!

  50. Nick_Scryer
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror:
    Mero but still no Strong Belwas, sigh, I will always remember you big guy!

    They’ll probably pull a “Reeds” on Belwas, introduce him next year in Meereen because they’re are already a million new characters this year.

    Interesting that they didn’t change Mero’s name yet they changed Asha’s…
    I wonder if they’ll change Euron or Aeron’s next year ?

    Btw how do I log in with Twitter? There’s no option anywhere?

  51. Reverse Nielsen
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    The only thing wrong with the actor is the absence of a humongous red beard. Apart from that, he’s physically perfect. He’s big with reddish hair and pale green eyes. Straight out of GRRM’s text.

  52. Laura Ponce De León
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    Reverse Nielsen:
    The only thing wrong with the actor is the absence of a humongous red beard. Apart from that, he’s physically perfect. He’s big with reddish hair and pale green eyes. Straight out of GRRM’s text.

    I guess he’ll have the beard, and he’ll shave it later on so Dany won’t recognice him.

  53. Rogge
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    Michel:
    IMDB says that he is gonna appears in 3×08..I think it’s fake,

    I would guess episode 9 or 10

    So you think it’s fake because it says ep 08, but you would be fine if it was ep 09?

    The amount of insight you think you have about the schedule of next season is simply amazing ;)

  54. Phalange
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    db,

    You mean like how Xaro is white in the books but was black in the show?

    C’mon, man.

  55. blatz
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    So Meera and Mero are ok, but Osha and Asha aren’t? Sorry to hash up the past, but I find it curious.

  56. Joshua Taylor
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    cwolf,

    this piece of music from DKR reminds me of Dany’s book 3 arc:

    http://youtu.be/ML4CAfrsJ5E

  57. Ours is the Fury
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Mero is a one-episode role from what I can tell. Osha and Asha are both long-running characters.

    I don’t have a problem with this actor, but it’s worth mentioning that Mero’s description of red hair and green eyes does not automatically make him white. People of color often don’t just have brown hair/brown eyes. I would like to see more variety in the cast in terms of race and ethnicity but especially in Westeros. There’s no reason to keep everyone who isn’t white over in Essos. I mean, it’s a fantasy world.

    I would ask that everyone, regardless of their opinion of the show’s casting when it comes to skin color, please be civil in your discussion here. Personal attacks are not permitted.

  58. sunspear
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu:
    sunspear,

    I think that they will save the road to Meereen for episodes 1-4 of season 4, the siege of Meereen for episodes 5-8, the Jorah-Barristan reveals for episode 9, and the sack of Meereen for episode 10

    Having her season 4 arc cover only 2 chapters sounds like a lot of stalling. I expect them to start on her ADWD material and end with her locking up her dragons.

    Nick_Scryer,

    I see no plot related reason they need to cast Belwas at all. I had no idea he had such a fan base.

  59. dizzy
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    This is where my handy (eh hem… $5) ASOIAF app is useful. Mero who? Oh look, he’s white!

  60. sunspear
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Mero is a one-episode role from what I can tell. Osha and Asha are both long-running characters.

    You know, I’ve been thinking about that. After season 3, there are a lot of characters that have nothing to do for season 4:

    Osha and Rickon will likely go off on their own to Skagos.
    Edmure, the Blackfish, and Talisa drop out until the siege of Riverrun in late AFFC.
    Hot pie vanishes after the inn, Gendry vanishes when Arya is captured, and the Brotherhood has only one scene with Uncat.

    I wonder if David and Dan will bother making up added scenes for all of them.

  61. Rygar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Who will win in a fight, an Asian Sansa or a black Sam?

    I find all this racial talk to be quite amusing. *puffs pipe*
    Yes, indeed quite.

  62. Darquemode
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:58 am | Permalink

    Nice to have Mero cast and this guy fits the bill well enough.
    Like Ours is the Fury I would not expect his role to be more than one or two episodes, with one being next year possibly.

    I wonder if Whitebeard will even have a hidden identity in Season 3 since it is far harder to “hide” an identity on film than in books…..I wonder if they would move up Mero’s death scene just to have him on for this one season. I’m not sure it would matter if Mero died at Yunkai or en route to Meereen like in the books….

  63. Darquemode
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    dizzy,

    Ha!
    I would buy that app if they had it for Android….
    Far as I read it is iOS and Nook only right?

  64. feyrband
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    sunspear,

    I for one will be incredibly disappointed if they don’t include Belwas. He is probably my favorite character from Dany’s story line.

  65. dizzy
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Yeah, it’s pretty cool. The maps are great. I wish they could use Amok’s works because he’s illustrated almost every character but the art they use is awesome as well. I’m sure a droid version will be coming soon.

  66. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    feyrband,

    Amen brother! That scene where he takes a shit after defeating the champion…friggen priceless!

  67. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    one can only hope!

  68. Hislocal
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    As far as the Asha/Osha and Mero/Meera conversation:

    Asha and Osha are pronounced exactly the same out loud, which is how characters are identified on a show. You’re not likely to see them wearing a name tag. Also, they’re both grimy looking, 20-30-something caucasian females that have storylines centered in the North, and even more specifically, at Winterfell. If I hadn’t read the books, maybe even I would get those two confused.

    On the other hand, MEE-ra and MARE-o don’t sound the same out loud, and one of them is a 15 year old pale girl riding around in the North with Bran, while the other is a presumably tan (even if white), muscular man who is out in the desert with Dany. Not a whole lot of chance that people are going to get them confused.

  69. Slothrop
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    They can play with the hidden identity plot – let the audience know (because, well, it would be hard to do otherwise) that Whitebeard is Barristan, but not Dany or Jorah. This would create a nice tension and anticipation for the inevitable reveal and the problems coming with it – after all, we know Barristan knows Jorah was an informant.

    If they REALLY play it up, it could become a timebomb. I’d love to watch it.

  70. Arkash
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Braavos was founded by slaves from all over the world… there are every ethnicities, there… end of debate.

  71. Nezzer
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer: They’ll probably pull a “Reeds” on Belwas, introduce him next year in Meereen because they’re are already a million new characters this year.

    Interesting that they didn’t change Mero’s name yet they changed Asha’s…
    I wonder if they’ll change Euron or Aeron’s next year ?

    Btw how do I log in with Twitter? There’s no option anywhere?

    I don’t think they need to change Euron and Aeron. They can just pronounce it Ew-ron (like Europe) and Ay-ron (like Aegon). They sound much different from each other to me. They could also pronounce Euron with the “Eu” like in Euller, Oyron, and Aeron like Aaron (Eh-ron). I personally pronouce them Ew-ron and Eh-ron, but that might be a bti confusing.

  72. bon
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Someone posted here that this actor don’t have beard, so he dn’t match Mero. Whar about this picture. Now he matches? http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3835800576/nm2075330

  73. Rygar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    I can not decide what is more amusing. “Charlie bit my finger” or some of the comments on here.

  74. spacechampion
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Hislocal:
    Asha and Osha are pronounced exactly the same out loud

    Only for particular accents. In my Canadian accent they do not sound exactly alike.

    The show has voice coaches to teach their actors Dothraki, for Red Rahloo’s sake! I’m sure if they had asked the actors to pronounce Osha and Asha distinctly different (ie. not like a Brit) there would be no problem.

    It seems the producers make some decisions without asking the advice of people who work for them.

  75. spacechampion
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Nezzer: I don’t think they need to change Euron and Aeron. They can just pronounce it Ew-ron (like Europe) and Ay-ron (like Aegon).

    I think they’ll just pronounce Aeron like “Damphair”. It’s just a guess, i may be wrong.

    I don’t think Europe is pronounced “Ew-rope” for everybody, just Brits.

  76. The Young Wolf
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    So no Yunkai or Daario until ep 8, right

  77. Nezzer
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    spacechampion: I think they’ll just pronounce Aeron like “Damphair”.It’s just a guess, i may be wrong.

    I don’t think Europe is pronounced “Ew-rope” for everybody, just Brits.

    Well, in English, Europe is always pronounced Ew-rope. I, for one, don’t know of any English accent that pronouces Europe as Oy-rope or El-rope :D

  78. Rygar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    This actor has some piercing blue eyes. I have about 5 or 6 wight jokes but I will keep this serious. I think he looks great for the part and definitely has a face that would make Sergio Leone squeal with delight over a close up. Very distinquished looking for sure.

  79. Winter Is Coming
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    bon:
    Someone posted here that this actor don’t have beard, so he dn’t match Mero. Whar about this picture. Now he matches? http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3835800576/nm2075330

    Nice. Based on the upload date of that photo, I’m guessing that is him in costume as Mero.

  80. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer,

    We New Yorkers pronounce Europe like “UR-RUP”

  81. Alan
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer: I don’t think they need to change Euron and Aeron. They can just pronounce it Ew-ron (like Europe) and Ay-ron (like Aegon). They sound much different from each other to me. They could also pronounce Euron with the “Eu” like in Euller, Oyron, and Aeron like Aaron (Eh-ron). I personally pronouce them Ew-ron and Eh-ron, but that might be a bti confusing.

    Aegon is pronounced Egg-on. I’m not sure about Euron and Aeron, but I always say Yer-On and Air-On.

  82. mags giantsbabe
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Rygar, you funny guy.

  83. Potomacmom
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    We Washingtonians pronounce Europe as Yur – up :)

  84. sunspear
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    While we’re on the subject of Euron (and the elusive pronunciation of his name) who else thinks he’ll be showing up at the end of Season 4? I think they’ll want to put the entire Kingsmoot subplot in one season, and since it needs to start shortly after Balon’s death, that means it will need to get started in Season 4. Finger’s crossed!

  85. Idaan
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    He really resembles Harrison Ford circa Blade Runner on that photo.

  86. dizzy
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Potomacmom,

    We Texans say “Over yonder ‘cross that der pond”

  87. Solar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    really? i was saying it like “A-Gun” or “A-Gone”. “Egg-On” sounds stupid. lol i can’t even say “egg-on” without laughing.

  88. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    I prefer Nooma Nooma.

  89. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    I prefer Numa Numa.

  90. Nezzer
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Alan: Aegon is pronounced Egg-on.I’m not sure about Euron and Aeron, but I always say Yer-On and Air-On.

    I meant in the show. There they pronounce it Ay-gon.

  91. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    It’s so not pronounced Egg-on! I aught to know.

  92. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    I think he is assuming that because Aegon V was nicknamed ‘Egg’ that it must be pronounced Egg-on.

  93. Ser Tahu
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    as far as pronunciation is concerned, this is how I pronounce them:

    Osha: O-sha
    Asha: Ash-a
    Mero: Me-row
    Meera: Me-ra
    Aegon: Ay-gon (because GRRM said that Maester is pronounced May-ster, I always pronounce ‘ae’ as ‘ay’ (the correct way))
    Europe: U-rope (with the slightest hint of an e at the start)
    Euron: U-ron (again, with the slight hint of an e)
    Aeron: Ay-ron

  94. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Egg was nicknamed so because of his bald dome, not his name.

  95. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Aegon the Conqueror,

    Yes, but it was also a play off of his name too.

  96. Ser Tahu
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I thought they called him Egg because he shaved his head bald?

  97. Ser Tahu
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    here: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Various_Pronunciations

    Aegon is definitely ‘Ay-gon’, not ‘Egg-on’

  98. WildSeed
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Mero is a one-episode role from what I can tell. Osha and Asha are both long-running characters.

    I don’t have a problem with this actor, but it’s worth mentioning that Mero’s description of red hair and green eyes does not automatically make him white. People of color often don’t just have brown hair/brown eyes. I would like to see more variety in the cast in terms of race and ethnicity but especially in Westeros. There’s no reason to keep everyone who isn’t white over in Essos. I mean, it’s a fantasy world.

    I would ask that everyone, regardless of their opinion of the show’s casting when it comes to skin color, please be civil in your discussion here. Personal attacks are not permitted.

    Thanks , and I agree with this in total. As I’d mentioned much earlier, I
    looked forward to the introduction of the Second Sons and the mention
    of commander Mero, but did not anticipate much involvement for season three.
    Besides, Mero was such a evil bastard that I despised his character. I look
    forward to the mention of other Mercenary groups in season four and beyond,
    and their illustrious commanders (give credit where due )like Brown Ben Plumm.
    Most of these guys had sordid histories and did unspeakable acts, but they
    were mercenary swords for hire. I really want to hear Kasporio and Ryberio
    mentioned, if only by name, in S3 or S4.

    I wonder if the Golden Company gets a nod, or the manner of which they take their
    ($) oaths.

  99. Matt Davies
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    That makes sense
    I’m guessing Dany’s plotline’ll be

    Ep 1. Ambush at docks, introducing Arstan/Selmy
    Ep 2. Boat journey to Astapor, after changing course from Pentos
    Ep 3. Arrival at Astapor, meeting master slaver
    Ep 4. Daenerys looking for advice on Unsullied from Jorah and Barristan
    Ep 5. Asks slaver for Unsullied, offering Drogon for it
    Ep 6. Dracarysing outta there
    Ep 7. Dany travelling and arriving at Yunkai, organising a meeting with the Sellsword captains
    Ep 8. Daenerys’ meeting with the sellsword captains (Mero introduced here)
    Ep 9. I doubt she’ll appear here, a lot of focus will be on the RW and stuff
    Ep 10. Battle at Yunkai, whole Mysha scene and all

    it’s looking like a very typical Game of Thrones structure for her arc this season!

  100. Rygar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Did you get my Raven, Wildseed?

  101. Steven Swanson
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    db:
    So they should only cast PoC if it’s needed, otherwise everyone is white by default lol i see

    Or maybe they just cast the actor they think could best portray the role. I know, revolutionary concept, right?

  102. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Tom O’ Sevens:
    Nezzer,

    We New Yorkers pronounce Europe like “UR-RUP”

    Well, a woman is in NY too, and I’m not sure if the way you spelled it is the same as we say it…as in YOUR-up. We say Aegon as AYgone also, not EGGon. Whatev. PotATo, potahto.

  103. kulisap
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    This is off-topic but for the moderators, here’s an interesting article from The Economist using the world of Mr. Martin :) It’s quite a testament how the HBO series has expanded the reach of the books.

    http://www.economist.com/news/21567361-google-apple-facebook-and-amazon-are-each-others-throats-all-sorts-ways-another-game?spc=scode&spv=xm&ah=9d7f7ab945510a56fa6d37c30b6f1709

  104. Joshua Taylor
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Steven Swanson,

    Whoah man careful don’t use the “L” word too much.

  105. Chickenduck
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Hislocal:
    As far as the Asha/Osha and Mero/Meera conversation:

    Asha and Osha are pronounced exactly the same out loud, which is how characters are identified on a show.

    The rest of your argument is correct (e.g. Meera and Mero being hard to confuse as they’re different genders and on different continents etc). Also, your point of the names being easy to confuse, is essentially correct (and is the reason why they changed it the Yara, as stated in interviews).

    BUT I’ll be pedantic – the pronunciation of Osha and Asha is only the same for Americans (and even then, by no means all Americans).

    For the rest of the English-speaking world, the O and A are pronounced quite differently – including in the various British accents used by actors in the show.

    As an Australian, I’d pronounce them /ɒʃə/ and /æʃə/ respectively. (And if you want to avoid your transcriptions being misinterpreted, go read this ;) – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA).

    Sorry for nitpicking, no disrespect meant… Linguistics is my job :)

  106. Baramos
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    This guy is in a lot of stuff with “rise” in the title…

  107. Isabelle
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    March 31st needs to hurry up and arrive!!

    I was in NYC yesterday and saw quite a few buses with the grey “03.31.13″ ads on their sides (may have frightened my friend a bit with some loud screeches of surprise/delight). It’s so exciting to see the ads up and running!

  108. Isabelle
    Posted December 4, 2012 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

    kulisap,

    That was such fun to read! Thanks for posting this!! If you haven’t already, make sure you check out the comments section for the article for some more great Thrones references.

  109. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: Well, a woman is in NY too, and I’m not sure if the way you spelled it is the same as we say it…as in YOUR-up. We say Aegon as AYgone also, not EGGon. Whatev. PotATo, potahto.

    Right “Your-up” works too. Same pronounciation

  110. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    Potomacmom:
    Tom O’ Sevens,

    Tom O’ Sevens,

    We Washingtonians pronounce Europe as Yur – up :)

    ur rup and your up sound the same :)

  111. Erik
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 4:37 am | Permalink

    I discovered in my Inside HBO’s Game of Thrones book that Aeron and Victarion are not in the Greyjoy’s genealogical tree. But Euron is present.

  112. Kael of the Lake
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 6:01 am | Permalink

    Since the Asha/Yara-gate is up again and running, I have a little game for you. A game I’m sure it’ll clear things up.
    Find some friends of yours who consider themselves devoted fans of GoT but haven’t red the books. Ask them one simple question: “What is the name of Theon’s sister”.
    If more than half of them answer “Yara”, just keep it and start sleeping again.
    If more than half of them answer “I don’t know”, then it doesn’t really matter.
    I tried that game and out of 6 people I scored:
    1 “Yana”,
    4 “I don’t remember” and
    1 “The Greyjoy chick that needs a bath”.
    6 out of 6 don’t have a clue. With so many characters around and a nine months hiatus, for them it makes no difference. The only people who keep bringing that on are book readers who can’t imagine a universe where character names can be altered between book and TV. Well…

    However, try that game. It’s fun.

  113. Hear Me Roar
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 6:16 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Hello, fellow linguist. I welcome you :)

  114. Ser Tahu
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 6:48 am | Permalink

    I stumbled across this, and felt it was relevant to the whole Yara/Asha thing (NOTE: although it does not, in itself, contain spoilers, it is likely that only those who have finished the books will get it :P)
    http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ik4d30HJ1r0peceo1_500.jpg

  115. caroh
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    What a handsome man! <3

  116. Alan
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu:
    here: http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Entry/Various_Pronunciations

    Aegon is definitely ‘Ay-gon’, not ‘Egg-on’

    When Martin has talked about names, he’s been very clear that he doesn’t like to tell people what they are — that it is really up to the reader.

    That said, when the show started, there was a slew of times he came out and said certain names how he hears them. Most of them are not how I say them, but I totally say every name as close to their real world analog — so Lysa is Lee-suh, not LIE-suh; Petyr is simply like our Peter, not Pay-TEAR, etc.

    I remember somewhere that Martin or Ran or someone in the know commented that Aegon was an exception for the pronunciation rules and was actually pronounced Egg-on. Not Egg..pause..On, but fast — Eggon. I also remember not liking that very much. I can’t find the link — it may be in video — but I’m like 70% sure it’s true.

    (I mentally say A gone with a long A like I am saying the letter, not Ay-gonn or Eggon.)

  117. Rygar
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    I say that the next round is on Fury. :)

  118. Joshua Taylor
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Killeen looks like actor Nick Chinlund aka creepy fetishist serial killer Donny Pfaster from the X Files.

  119. babar
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    I see in HBO schedule that there is a video of 3 minutes called “Season 3 : New characters” which seems to be available on demand… Does anybody know what that is ?

    EDIT: Nevermind.. I guess this is the Comic-Con one..

  120. SJGIM
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    I see no plot related reason they need to cast Belwas at all. I had no idea he had such a fan base.

    I enjoy Belwas. From what we see of him he has become good at one thing, fighting. That thing has taken him from the bottom to way up in terms of lifestyle and he appears to take every advantage of that. On top of that he is irreverent while doing what needs to be done for the person he is serving. It would be disappointing not to have him in the series. (Plus I would love to see how they adapt his fighting style onscreen.)

  121. Hummis1349
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck: The rest of your argument is correct (e.g. Meera and Mero being hard to confuse as they’re different genders and on different continents etc).Also, your point of the names being easy to confuse, is essentially correct (and is the reason why they changed it the Yara, as stated in interviews).

    BUT I’ll be pedantic – the pronunciation of Osha and Asha is only the same for Americans (and even then, by no means all Americans).

    For the rest of the English-speaking world, the O and A are pronounced quite differently – including in the various British accents used by actors in the show.

    As an Australian, I’d pronounce them /ɒʃə/ and /æʃə/ respectively.(And if you want to avoid your transcriptions being misinterpreted, go read this ;) – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA).

    Sorry for nitpicking, no disrespect meant… Linguistics is my job :)

    I always simply pronounced Osha as /oʊʃə/, with long ‘O’. If it were a short O, it would be /aʃə/. Which is definitely distinct from /ɒʃə/, which is how I’d pronounce it if it were spelled ‘Awsha.’

  122. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Hummis1349: I always simply pronounced Osha as /oʊʃə/, with long ‘O’. If it were a short O, it would be /aʃə/.Which is definitely distinct from /ɒʃə/, which is how I’d pronounce it if it were spelled ‘Awsha.’

    The only people this woman has heard pronounce it as “Awsha” are all from Boston, MA, USA. That is all. LOLz.

  123. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    SJGIM: I enjoy Belwas. From what we see of him he has become good at one thing, fighting. That thing has taken him from the bottom to way up in terms of lifestyle and he appears to take every advantage of that. On top of that he is irreverent while doing what needs to be done for the person he is serving. It would be disappointing not to have him in the series. (Plus I would love to see how they adapt his fighting style onscreen.)

    A woman also enjoys reading of Strong Belwas, and always pictures the frequent collaborator of Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, when reading of Belwas. He has the speed, size, and comic sense that would work for Belwas. Now if only D&D would consider him…
    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3250755584/nm0005033

  124. Hummis1349
    Posted December 5, 2012 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar: The only people this woman has heard pronounce it as “Awsha” are all from Boston, MA, USA. That is all. LOLz.

    That’s because Boston accents do not distinguish between the LOT and THOUGHT vowels, having the so-called cot-caught merger. But unlike the majority of Americans, they don’t have the father-bother merger. Western U.S., Canada, and Pittsburgh merge all three.

  125. SJGIM
    Posted December 6, 2012 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    Mrs. H’ghar,

    I never really considered Sammo Hung but now that I’ve peaked at some of his video and his look I like the casting. I’ve only seen one movie he’s been in.

  126. Chickenduck
    Posted December 6, 2012 at 2:15 am | Permalink

    Hummis1349: I always simply pronounced Osha as /oʊʃə/, with long ‘O’. If it were a short O, it would be /aʃə/.Which is definitely distinct from /ɒʃə/, which is how I’d pronounce it if it were spelled ‘Awsha.’

    I can see how you might get /oʊʃə/ – it never occurred to me to say it with a long ‘O’, but makes sense. To Australians though, “Awsha” would be automatically read aloud as /ɔʃə/. But we Aussies have a very different set of vowels to the rest of you guys…

    Without going and looking it up, I’d be fairly confident that the “o” sound has the most diverse variations of any vowel in English. I have a student from Scotland, who pronounces the vowels in “pour”, “poor” and “paw” all differently (and he pronounces the Rs, whereas we don’t). The rest of the class (all Australians) though that was hilarious, as we pronounce all 3 exactly the same… (as /pɔ:/)

    Also, when I say “Barbie”, most Americans assume I mean “Bobby”…

  127. WildSeed
    Posted December 6, 2012 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    WildSeed,

    Did you get my Raven, Wildseed?

    Must have been shot by arrow while exiting the Rookery. Perhaps by chance
    it was a crow that flew to the Frostfangs instead of the States. Honestly. I
    have no idea if a raven had any instruction to come my way. Is this another
    jest ? or test ?

  128. Alva
    Posted December 7, 2012 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Was this actor previously in anything that didn’t have the word “rise” in the title?

  129. Fienix
    Posted December 7, 2012 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    OK, blah blah blah… Can we please get to the most important thing, here? Women, we have some new man candy to drool over next season! (for a short time, at least). :-)

    Now, who’s hunkier: Jaqen H’ghar or Mero, aka: the Titan’s Bastard? Discuss…

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