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MGoT: Down to the smallest detail indeed

Propmaster Gordon Fitzgerald takes us behind the scenes of S3! A great video, with many a priceless detail. Bigger cages for bigger dragons this year! A line from Tyrion! Pigshit! (Well, not really. But the pigs are an authentic medieval breed!)

Hear Me Roar: Enjoy sorting out through the new (visual) info. Just be mindful of spoilers and mark them as such.

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  • Yay bigger!

    For those outside of the US: The video did work for me, I just had to click the “Go to HBO USA” link on the right side of the video viewer and the video loaded up properly.

  • Awesome! Come on April 1st!

    Amazing the amount of detail they put into EVERYTHING, I want to have HBO’s babies.

  • Awesome seeing the size they are going for with the dragons. It’s pretty close to what I had imagined.

    Also, I wonder how much of the S1 and S2 props they are able to reuse.

  • It blows my mind to see all these behind the scenes videos detailing just how much work goes into each and every prop/set.

    I’ve watched the blu ray for season 2 twice already and have yet to find a prop or set that didn’t seem real. Amazing.

  • People nitpick about this show but compared to the cheesy effects (spartacus) and crappy costumes (camelot) of other fantasy shows, GOT is excellence nonpareil. The level of detail in the production design is staggering, as this vid shows.

    Also, if you need something to tide you over for the next 24 days, 5 hours, and 30 minutes. Check out history channel’s vikings for some good medieval carnage and solid story telling. It’s not bad. Not GOT (no dragons, more historical detail), but not bad.

    http://www.history.com/shows/vikings

    (and no I’m not spamming, just a suggestion from one fan to other fans)

  • begbie3: People nitpick about this show but compared to the cheesy effects (spartacus) and crappy costumes (camelot) of other fantasy shows, GOT is excellence nonpareil. The level of detail in the production design is staggering, as this vid shows.Also, if you need something to tide you over for the next 24 days, 5 hours, and 30 minutes. Check out history channel’s vikings for some good medieval carnage and solid story telling. It’s not bad. Not GOT (no dragons, more historical detail), but not bad. http://www.history.com/shows/vikings(and no I’m not spamming, just a suggestion from one fan to other fans)

    Solid story telling ? It has only aired 1ep and that was only ok at best imo..

  • Im sure the actors and crew were incredibly grateful they stopped using real pig manure! XD

  • I’m just trying to figure out what scene the pigs are for? Or at least what character might be in it, does anyone have any ideas?

  • Coltaine777,

    Not to hijack the thread but yes, Vikings is a definite copycat show, with considerably less talent and probably budget but is mildly interesting but the writing and performances are no where near GoT quality but who knows. Like you said, it’s only one episode in.

    A few details from the video I can gather. There are a couple of pigs in the books that are featured quite prominently, one in particular I don’t think we’re at that point this season. I’m likely to believe these pigs due to their setting will probably be a part of Theon’s storyline. I’m not sure why they’d single this feature of the show out unless they will be a prominent portion of someone’s storyline. Any other guesses where these pigs might show up?

    I also noticed some of the Dothraki look to be considerably more fit and confident than the last time I saw Dany’s measly hoard. Did she gain some followers or is it just a continuity thing I’m overlooking?

  • They are going to be at Craster’s. It was mentioned in the season 2 commentary as well, how they got a guy who breeds medieval pigs.

  • I don’t remember pigs in A Storm of Swords. A bear all covered in hair, yes, but no pigs.

  • Crasters was the first place I thought of when I saw the Pigs or it could be somewhere the BWB and Arya spend some time at as well.

  • I speak reasonably good english. But i can’t understand a word this guy is Saying. Would someone make a translation for me please? I’d appreciate that a lot.

  • I haven’t finished Vikings episode one but 1 & 2 are on the History channel website and app

  • begbie3,

    Thanks for that. I’ve been looking for something to watch. Looks pretty good for the History Channel. I’ve only watched the 1st several minutes so far and (what appears to be) the main character reminds me of Jax from Sons of Anarchy.

    And to not be totally off topic, it is amazing the level of detail that goes into this production. But we’ve been saying that since season one.

  • johnny,

    Didn’t Craster have pigs at his keep?
    The NW will be camped out there as they retreat if I recall. So maybe there?

  • Hexonx,

    Travis Fimmel on Vikingsc ompletely reminds me of Charlie Hunnam as Jax on SOA!

    direhound,

    I don’t see Vikings as competition to GOT at all I guess. More like The Tudors or some other historical drama. I am not completely drawn into the characters or series yet, but the production value is fairly high for a TV show. I agree the acting and writing is not as compelling as GOT… I think that is my issue with the show so far. Not bad overall tho…..

  • Lucas:
    I speak reasonably good english. But i can’t understand a word this guy is Saying. Would someone make a translation for me please? I’d appreciate that a lot.

    Ha! I’m a native English speaker (American) and I had a hard time understanding him but here is a rather loose translation:

    He basically starts out talking about how it was a challenge last year with the big camps and the sets are smaller this year but just as exciting. Then talks about how they have the scripts so they know what props are needed but it is a challenge to keep up with all the new props. Then he talks about how its too tedious of an act to make books so they “borrow” them (I guess) but they do make up a few pages to look Westerosi when characters are looking through them on the show. And then he talks about how they originally used real pig shit in the pig pen but the smell was too much to handle so they ended up using a compost mixture that still looks like pig shit but not as bad of smell. Then talks about redesigning the dragon cages b/c they are a little bigger this season.

  • Mormegil,

    I thought of Craster’s too…

    Could be Arya and the BwoB too, or maybe Jaime and Brienne at the Inn of the Kneeling Man?
    Did “Boy” say they had pigs maybe? Maybe? Horse meat maybe….

  • Darquemode: Hexonx,

    Travis Fimmel on Vikingsc ompletely reminds me of Charlie Hunnam as Jax on SOA!

    Just a thought, Charlie Hunnam is British so maybe we will see him in GoT in the future.

  • Hexonx,

    If I recall he has stated he would love to be on Thrones, but I don’tremember where I read that….

    I can see him as Devan Lannister easily (although Opie/ Ryan Hurst would be even better if he were British). .. or maybe Ser Gerris Drinkwater?

    I would love to have Tommy Flanagan on Thrones too, but I’ve been struggling to find the appropriate role…. Maybe Ser Hyle Hunt? Meh….

    ETA:
    Found the Hunnam article here:
    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s151/game-of-thrones/news/a395016/sons-of-anarchy-star-charlie-hunnam-i-want-game-of-thrones-role.html

  • I have add add my voice to the chorus recommending ‘Vikings’ on History channel.

    I had my doubts, but the show really did impress me quite a bit. I’ve only seen one episode so far, but I think it should appeal to most GOT fans.

    I had my concerns about historical accuracy (especially since I’m Swedish), but the lack of it did not bother me at all. They do a good job on the characters, and the society they portray seems consistent.

    Back on topic :-), I wonder when they’ll send out screeners of the first season 3 episodes to critics. It should be soon.

  • Since the topic of other shows came up in this thread…

    I recently had a…conversation…with my girlfriend about Game of Thrones vs. The Walking Dead. We both love both shows, but I lean towards Thrones and she leans towards TWD. Anyway, the season finale of TWD and the season premiere of Thrones are on a collision course. My DVR is going to ultimately save the day, but the…conversation…continues about which we will watch first.

    As for the pig it’s too early. This must be an ugly pig, not a pretty one.

  • I wonder what that scene right at the end is. Daenerys letting one of the dragons out just to stretch their wings or something more important? .

    Jorah, Barristan and some Dothraki are involved, hmmm…

  • The pigs at Craster’s Keep look majorly annoyed at being awoken from their nap.

    The Library at the Wall was more fascinating in description than at King’s Landing.

  • NoxAeturnus,

    I like Thrones more, and haven’t watched past season 1 of TWD, but I’d watch the finale first and then switch to Thrones. Finish one show’s season and then start the other.

  • NoxAeturnus:
    Since the topic of other shows came up in this thread…

    I recently had a…conversation…with my girlfriend about Game of Thrones vs. The Walking Dead. We both love both shows, but I lean towards Thrones and she leans towards TWD. Anyway, the season finale of TWD and the season premiere of Thrones are on a collision course. My DVR is going to ultimately save the day, but the…conversation…continues about which we will watch first.

    Walking Dead first. Closure before you start a new season of something else. And, you know, always appease the girlfriend.

    Edit: Delta1212: Yeah.

  • direhound,

    I agree with you …I must also add, while I wasn’t blown away by ep 1 , I did enjoy it enough to give it a chance and will tune in for ep 2…

  • NoxAeturnus,

    I don’t watch TWD, but if I did I’d watch the show without commercials first(GOT) and DVR the other so I could fast forward through the ads. I know when ‘Mad Men’ starts I watch ‘Game of Thrones’ live and DVR ‘Mad Men’.

  • Well I am European, and I will have to ‘allegedly’ illegally download both TWD and GOT the next day (yeah, GOT starts in april, a month later than you americans). I agree that it’s logical to end a season and then jump into the new one of the other show, but I don’t think I’ll be able to properly enjoy the TWD finale if I’m thinking all the time about GOT. It’s been too long since season 2, and I’d take White Walkers and Wights over zombies anytime.

    PD: We are having the Battle at the Fist right?

  • Joan Català:
    Well I am European, and I will have to ‘allegedly’ illegally download both TWD and GOT the next day

    It’s not ‘allegedly’ illegal, it is simply illegal. It is allegedly unethical but I happen to think as long as you subscribe to view it legitimately and/or buy the disc release you are justified in using extra-legal methods to watch it early.

    But yeah… it’s just plain illegal.

  • I guess that these pigs are for Craster’s keep like others have said, but don’t pigs eat pretty much anything that you feed them? Like human appendages? Just a thought…

  • Tyrion Pimpslap,

    That’s an awesome point! I hadn’t thought of commercials. That would cut the total viewing time down, but I’d be able to enjoy TWD uninterrupted. An excellent bit of support for my position. Thanks!

  • James,

    My bad, I phrased that wrong. I didn’t mean the act is allegedly illegal, but that I would allegedly download the show (no one can prove I did). In any case I have the spanish cable to watch it (a full month later and in spanish… which is just utterly disastrous). Besides I have both Seasons in Bluray and plan on buying the third one too. I just can’t tolerate the wait why you all argue about it in here.

  • Transcription, for those who struggle with accents other than their own:

    Stutters are removed for clarity.

    “Last season, we had a lot of big camps to do, which was quite challenging for us. This season, there’s less of that, but more smaller sets. It’s been as exciting, again, I think, as last year, but in a different way.”

    “We usually have the working scripts to begin with, and the props you know are going to be complicated, you set them in motion. And then it’s really a case of keeping up to speed with any new props that are introduced.”

    “To make an entire book is quite a slow and complicated process, but for any of the books which are actually being read, we had to have the books go to a publisher in London and actually be made up and bound. For any of the pages which are being leafed through, they’ll have been made up here, but there’ll only be ten, twelve of those pages in a book that would have had thousands of pages. To make that in reality, the medieval monks would be there for years and years, creating these books.”

    Tyrion: “You’ll be pleased to learn, I saved the crown hundreds of thousands”

    “The pig pen, we had actually put real pig shit in, but it was so unpalatable – the smell was fairly dreadful – that we then had to take it all back out again. We then did various tests, which involved a mix of compost and various other elements [cut] which looked kind of as realistic, but was safe for the actors to use and, uh, for the crew to be around.”

    “The cages were redesigned, really, to accommodate the size of the new dragons. We had one of the carpenters remake the cages. Once he’s finished, then they go to the drapes department, who then do all the skin-work on them and all the bindings. And from there they then go to the prop painter and his department, who work on the aging of them all, to make it look as if the dragons have been living in the cages.”

    “We kind of work with whatever is going to look convincing, but actually is really not realistic at all.”

  • Lars:
    I have add add my voice to the chorus recommending ‘Vikings’ on History channel.

    I had my doubts, but the show really did impress me quite a bit. I’ve only seen one episode so far, but I think it should appeal to most GOT fans.

    Agreed that the lead in Vikings is channeling Charlie Hunnam and I also enjoyed the first two episodes of Vikings quite a bit.

    Vikings
    is the kind of show that does not get greenlit without GoT first being a hit. So thanks to D&D and the GoT production crew for first tilling the patch of earth that Vikings is now growing in.

  • I wish The Walking Dead and GoT weren’t going against each other that night so we could get a better, more accurate reading of the ratings. Now they’re going to be skewed by rebroadcast and DVR numbers.

    I watch both shows. I’m going to want to watch GoT first at 9, but the person I live/watch both shows with is going to want to watch The Walking Dead. There’s going to be arguments …

    as for Vikings, the second episode is On Demand so I’ve already seen it. It’s better than the first. I liked the show. Clunky dialog, some modern expressions, but not a bad show at all. I’m going to see it through, why not. It comes on after GoT anyway…

  • I’ve watched the blu ray for season 2 twice already and have yet to find a prop or set that didn’t seem real.Amazing.

    I guess you don’t have a 50″ or larger screen and 120 or 240Hz refresh on an LCD display in that case. Far too often I found sets that you could see were clearly constructs and not locations. Harrenhal’s courtyard walls come immediately to mind, as do the scenes on the ships in Blackwater. That’s the real downside to Blu-Ray and high frame rate…you see every blemish, every detail, every texture. And it’s to their credit that the vast majority of their CGI, sets and props are so phenomenally well done that you cannot tell what is real and what isn’t. But sometimes you do and it really sticks out.

    I also noted that in at least a few episodes, the lighting is extremely harsh in highlights. “Prince of Winterfell,” with Yara sitting back with her feet up (about 2 minutes in) is a prime example. Blackwater, on the other hand, was superbly lit and not a bit harsh anywhere. In a sense, the scenes that are harshly lit reveal every stitch in the costume, every pore on the actor’s face, over-applied makeup and so on.

    The details for the most part, are utterly superb and make me feel like I’m right there in the room with them. I guess it makes large set design more problematic, though.

  • As for the pigs, aren’t they behind Wu’s shop?
    And “Tywin you c@$%sucker” is probably easier for him to pronounce than “Swengen…” :)

  • Since the dragons are bigger, they’ll need to spend a lot of money on building bigger cages

  • Anonymous,

    Nice spot!

    Glad to see the featurettes are not a thing of the past!!
    With none released so far I was a bit worried that HBO had decided to withhold them and use them for their HBO GO bonus content instead of releasing them as season promotional videos….

  • Watched the first two episodes of “Vikings”. It’s not bad. Not great, but keeps you reasonably entertained for an hour.

    Ep. 2 is available on hulu.

  • from that one dany scene it seems like theyre sticking it pretty close to the source material :)

  • Anne:
    I wish The Walking Dead and GoT weren’t going against each other that night so we could get a better, more accurate reading of the ratings. Now they’re going to be skewed by rebroadcast and DVR numbers.

    I watch both shows. I’m going to want to watch GoT first at 9, but the person I live/watch both shows with is going to want to watch The Walking Dead. There’s going to be arguments …

    as for Vikings, the second episode is On Demand so I’ve already seen it. It’s better than the first. I liked the show. Clunky dialog, some modern expressions, but not a bad show at all. I’m going to see it through, why not. It comes on after GoT anyway…

    I enjoy the Walking Dead series also. In some regions of the States, many
    premium broadcast are aired on the same weekend evening. HBO airs GOT,
    AMC airs TWD, Showtime airs Shameless, BBC airs Ripper Street or Doctor
    Who / Copper , on sunday, It’s enough of a pattern to consider it deliberate
    ( or clever competition ). I choose the On Demand feature from Comcast Cable,
    as you have, no way will I watch watch more than 2 hrs of television in a
    given day. The Nielsen Ratings wasn’t something I’d figured , but the ratings
    method does differentiate by broadcast time intervals, I believe.

    The History channel’s production of Vikings is quite a disappointment for
    me. The language and modern mannerisms , machine made costumes,
    2013 haircuts , perfect ships , are just too much to count as any true
    depiction. The actors aren’t that bad though, and Skarsgard does carry
    himself well, as does the scenic visuals. Definitely not as bad as the movie,
    Eagle.

  • Steel_Wind:
    Vikings is the kind of show that does not get greenlit without GoT first being a hit. So thanks to D&D and the GoT production crew for first tilling the patch of earth that Vikings is now growing in.

    Nice ! if true.

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