GRRM talks adaptation, Benioff & Weiss talk dragons
By Winter Is Coming on in Press.

Two good interviews from the Game of Thrones writers. First one is with George R. R. Martin at Amazon’s Omnivoracious blog. He talks about his relationship to the show and answers a question about the deviations from the book.

RAR: There do seem to be an increasing number of deviations from the books — not so many in Season 1 but more in Season 2…

GRRM: I think that’s a process that’s likely to continue, and some of that is just the nature of the process. I mean, when you make… Everything is related to everything else. So, if you make a small change in Season 1, it could lead to a really big change in Season 4 because the thing that was supposed to happen didn’t happen and the guy who was supposed to come in never appeared and it was just a line in that book but now you’re in this later season and you don’t have him set up. So, everything gets magnified and you have to deal with it.

Over at Entertainment Weekly, they are continuing their Thrones countdown, this time with a short an interview with showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss. The topic of the interview? Dragons.

Over on the Thrones set, showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss sit at wooden table that’s lavishly adorned for King Joffrey’s dinner feast. They compare the dragons’ growth to the way a baby crocodile or rottweiler can start off cute, then turn into a monster. “This is an interesting time for the dragons,” Benioff says. “When they were born they were adorable. Last season, as you say, they were still kind of cute. But now they’re turning into proper flying dragons. One of the interesting things about the books, and hopefully the show, is that the weapons of mass destruction in this world are living breathing things. And as they get older that presents problems.”

Winter Is Coming: I’m anxious to see just how big the dragons have grown this season… and what they are capable of.


65 Comments

  1. Stephen R. Hanlon
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    So Soon!

  2. Wrath of the Gods
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Slowest 2 weeks of my life.

    King Joffreys dinner feast? TPW?

  3. Tomas Hedwyn Savage
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Ha! Love the line about weapons of mass destruction.

    Very interesting indeed, I love watching the dragons grow. I just can’t wait for that infamous moment in book 5 to be brought to screen, probably in the season 5 finale or something. XD

  4. Doc
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Awesome from the GRRM interview:
    “I have not seen it. I’ve been very busy writing the new books and doing other projects this year, so I did not have a chance to visit the set.”
    “[The show runners are] doing a terrific job with the show and the show is their baby and the books are my baby. So, I’m gonna keep writing the books and keep ahead of these guys before they catch up with me.”

  5. TheFrozenKing
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    seems to me that they are progressing the story a bit to fast,faster then expected.

  6. pntrlqst
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    GRRM’s answers to questions about deviations are always unfulfilling. He never directly explains/or gives his opinion on changes like Jeyne/Talisa, Dany in Qarth, etc. He did give a good explanation of the “House of the Undying,” but most of the time he gives the standard “budget” answer or the answer given here. You’re never going to hear him say, “Yes, Dany’s Qarth adventures needed to be altered to make for exciting television, something my material wouldn’t have done left as is.”

  7. FSBA
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Over on the Thrones set, showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss sit at wooden table that’s lavishly adorned for King Joffrey’s dinner feast.

    Well well well. Perhaps we are in for the trifecta this season

  8. itto ogami
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    yeah, sounds good to me…I really love what GRRM said, good to hear that he is writing like a maniac. keep it up george, time is RUNNING :)

  9. pntrlqst
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Wrath of the Gods,

    FSBA,

    Look at the synopsis of e301.

  10. spacechampion
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Joffrey’s dinner feast???? Oh boy… so it is this season after all.

  11. Snakes dnthave hands
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Wrath of the Gods: Slowest 2 weeks of my life.King Joffreys dinner feast? TPW?

    I sure hope not. That would cause even more damage to the books and ruin The Red Viper’s intereactions with Tyrion, Penny’s interactions with Tyrion, etc. D&D wouldn’t ruin the story to that extent

  12. Lord of Fangs
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Why does everyone assume that a “lavish dinner feast” automatically means wedding feast? Talk about a cat looking into the flames and seeing red mice at play….

    I was wrong last season about the contemporary Rains of Castamere not showing up on the show in any way (credits), however I am going on record saying there is no way in hell there will be a PW this season if RW is indeed episode 9…there just isn’t enough time.

  13. Snakes dnthave hands
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    spacechampion: Joffrey’s dinner feast???? Oh boy… so it is this season after all.

    Dinner feast does not mean wedding

  14. zod
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    As pntrlqst said above, read the summary of episode 1:

    Jon is brought before Mance Rayder, the King Beyond the Wall, while the Night’s Watch survivors retreat south. In King’s Landing, Tyrion asks for his reward. Littlefinger offers Sansa a way out. Cersei hosts a dinner for the royal family. Daenerys sails into Slaver’s Bay.

  15. Tom O' Sevens
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    zod,

    Nice pointing that out. PW will not be in season 3 guys

  16. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    zod,

    Beat me to it. Sorry folks, the PW is not happening this season. Do you really think Margaery would get married without her father attending? Mace Tyrell has not been cast.

  17. QueenofThorns
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    The dragons are the size as described during the start of ASOS, that of a smallish dog, growing to large dog/small pony sized by the end of ASOS, so sounds like they are going by the book.

    They were actually a little too small last season (supposed to be cat-sized, were really more like kittens), so I hope it won’t seem to abrupt of a change. Viewers might think that Slaver’s Bay is really far from Qarth if the dragons have had that much time to grow en route!

  18. Dan
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Exactly. They were discussing the dinner feast where we’ll meet the Queen of Thorns.

  19. Jack
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    GRRM talking about making a change in season 1 that could affect season 4 : Death of Marillion?

  20. Jentario
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    People who want PW next season are dooming this season to a hopeless and heart wrenching ending that will leave many viewers unsatisfied. The only thing that can make up for it is some vengeance- PW. Yes, that leaves little stuff for season 4, but they have to do this anyway since many characters (Arya, Davos, Jaime, Sam, Bran, the whole UnCat buisness and plenty of minor/non-POV characters) will need an expansion to their story for season 4 and at least season 3 will be good (REALLY good!).

  21. Jentario
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Jack,

    Honestly, it doesn’t HAVE to be him. It could easily be someone else and it wouldn’t harm the story at all.

  22. pntrlqst
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Jack,

    No, Marillion didn’t die. He only lost his tongue. And I don’t understand why people get irked about it. With no tongue, he’s powerless to defend himself against accusations.

  23. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Wrath of the Gods,

    Not *necessarily*, as we know they hold a feast for the Tyrells in the premiere too.

  24. Josh
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Every year we have a new gate. By all indications the PW is not happening this season. Can we stop talking about it in EVERY topic.

  25. Cary Storm
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Josh,

    Please, share with us your these indications.

  26. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Not happening. And it won’t doom the show. They didn’t split book 3 up to rush through it. No Mace = No PW. Don’t misjudge a ton of big events for great TV. If there is no buildup or not enough time to flesh things out then it won’t be great TV.

  27. Synnerman
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Jack: GRRM talking about making a change in season 1 that could affect season 4 : Death of Marillion?

    No, it was the death of one of the Dothraki (don’t recall the name) that Khal Drogo ripped the throat out of. That didn’t happen in the books and apparently that Dothraki has a larger role in Book 6.

  28. The hounds pup
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    I hope pw does happen this season, so I can come here and laugh at the people who were so sure it wouldn’t.

  29. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    The hounds pup,

    I feel the same way about all the people who think it will, which I believe may be more than those that don’t think it will happen, or at least equal. If it does happen, then I guess Mace is dead on the show and the QOT raised Margaery and Loras herself.

  30. ebevan91
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Jentario,

    Not happening. And it won’t doom the show. They didn’t split book 3 up to rush through it. No Mace = No PW. Don’t misjudge a ton of big events for great TV. If there is no buildup or not enough time to flesh things out then it won’t be great TV.

    I’m still hoping that they cast the other 2 Tyrell brothers, or at least Garlan.

  31. pntrlqst
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Margaery already said something about her father supplying Renly his army.

  32. Darquemode
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Great interview with GRRM, but damn!
    Can’t D&D float the guy who created the series an early DVD screener? Seriously! I cannot believe the creator of ASOIAF/ GOT often has to wait and watch the show like the rest of the small folk!

  33. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Jentario:
    People who want PW next season are dooming this season to a hopeless and heart wrenching ending that will leave many viewers unsatisfied.

    No, no, no! Did you watch the first season? Other than the dragons, what was the hopeful end? Ned Stark – the main goddamned character – is killed. And yet somehow many people believe the PW ‘HAS’ to happen this year. When so far everything we’ve seen of D&D suggest they wouldn’t do such a thing. What’s been moved from one season to the next? Ok, the “three blasts” moment – but that’s an unsettling “wait until next season” moment. And everyone is operating on what – the barest of speculation and their own hunches because it would be “too sad” or something to end on other such events…but GoT fans, even just the TV show fans, are more than likely also fans of The Wire, or Deadwood, or other such programs that have taken bleak turns.

  34. Darquemode
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    Ageed!
    Even the dragons were bittersweet since Dany lost Drogo.

    The general TV public that likes police procedurals and needs happy endings is not the typical Thrones fan…..Is it?

    I think many fans of Thrones are fans exactly because it is so different than anything else on TV. IMO most will in fact appreciate a dark ending and will burn for the next season wanting revenge. Although to be honest, I thnk there will be a number of “non-dark” moments in the final episodes that will serve as counterbalance to the RW.

  35. Nick_Scryer
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait to see the Dragons reek havoc! Hopefully she uses their names this Season.

    Also of note, In the EW article they say the Direwolves are the same size as Season 2 or maybe a tiny bit bigger because they tried making them even bigger but it looked stupid. (Paraphrasing)

    SO glad GRRM is chugging along with the Winds of Winter, ridiculously excited for that.

  36. King DBC
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    If Melisandre’s scene with the leeches is done awesomely as I hope, viewers will know Joffrey is fucked… So no need for the PW to make up for RW yet…

  37. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode:
    Greatjon of Slumber,

    Ageed!
    Even the dragons were bittersweet since Dany lost Drogo.

    The general TV public that likes police procedurals and needs happy endings is not the typical Thrones fan…..Is it?

    I think many fans of Thrones are fans exactly because it is so different than anything else on TV. IMO most will in fact appreciate a dark ending and will burn for the next season wanting revenge. Although to be honest, I thnk there will be a number of “non-dark” moments in the final episodes that will serve as counterbalance to the RW.

    Agreed. We’ll see some sort of hopeful signs for Bran et al, Jon could repel the Wildlings, et cetera.

  38. Darquemode
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Personal feelings aside….
    With so many extras blogging, insiders giving reports and fan witnesses tweeting so many of the events and scenes of Seaon 3 have been specifically called out… or at least hinted at. No one has made any comment about the PW…..

    If the PW does in fact happen in Season 3, D&D and HBO have pulled off one of the most epic top secret finale stealth campaigns EVER!

  39. the other guy
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber: No, no, no! Did you watch the first season? Other than the dragons, what was the hopeful end? Ned Stark – the main goddamned character – is killed. And yet somehow many people believe the PW ‘HAS’ to happen this year. When so far everything we’ve seen of D&D suggest they wouldn’t do such a thing. What’s been moved from one season to the next? Ok, the “three blasts” moment – but that’s an unsettling “wait until next season” moment. And everyone is operating on what – the barest of speculation and their own hunches because it would be “too sad” or something to end on other such events…but GoT fans, even just the TV show fans, are more than likely also fans of The Wire, or Deadwood, or other such programs that have taken bleak turns.

    Agreed 100%. PW shouldn’t happen this season, period.

  40. sunspear
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    zod,

    You know, I’ve been wondering about that. What are the chances they might just give his role to the Queen of Thorns to cut down on characters? BTW, the PW is definitely not this year. No Oberyn, no dwarf jousters, and most of all no time.
    Beat me to it. Sorry folks, the PW is not happening this season. Do you really think Margaery would get married without her fatherattending? Mace Tyrell has not been cast.

  41. WildSeed
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    GRRM strikes a good point by mentioning a small revision in any season
    may need additional changes in the future to offer series continuity. The
    ASOIAF adaptation is a challenge , but I hope the perspective remains
    that this is an extraordinary piece of work that may fail with too much
    tweaking. These guys are pros, so I’ll not disparage them much, having
    GoT television is a win in itself. Just please though, let’s not make all
    the alpha males fighting a singular quest, for love of a woman. Robb, Jon
    and Stannis , had distinctive roles compared to Robert. I’m missing the
    push for sovereign power.

  42. WildSeed
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer:
    Can’t wait to see the Dragons reek havoc! Hopefully she uses their names this Season.

    Also of note, In the EW article they say the Direwolves are the same size as Season 2 or maybe a tiny bit bigger because they tried making them even bigger but it looked stupid. (Paraphrasing)

    SO glad GRRM is chugging along with the Winds of Winter, ridiculously excited for that.

    Dragons, yea! The Pan -Starrs Comet has announced their coming. The view from
    many places has been spectacular.

    I’m not certain what the EW article meant by “making the dragons even bigger
    turned out stupid ‘. The promo of Drogon flying near the ship ,appeared larger
    in size. I guess we’ll see in a few weeks.

  43. Zack
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Read it again, he said direwolves, not dragons. I’m disappointed they won’t be gigantic wolves but it’s not like they ever actually had more than 5 minutes of time on screen per season anyway…

  44. Juego de tronos
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    I want to see the dragons in action in this season

  45. Day
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    pntrlqst:
    You’re never going to hear him say, “Yes, Dany’s Qarth adventures needed to be altered to make for exciting television, something my material wouldn’t have done left as is.”

    Obviously. Because that just wouldn’t be true.

  46. Maester Tcost
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 8:10 pm | Permalink

    Who knows, maybe the showrunners will make an even bigger change, and stage the PW only to have everyone live through it!

    I don’t really think that they’ll do this in a million years, but you just never know for sure.

  47. LampingIt
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    Obv reference to Zxaron ducksaue (I know misspelled) gets locked away insteaed of coming back to offer dany his ships for a dragon later. Books r so long so I get they can’t get eveything into the show. How cool is that Bernnnie finds Sir Duncan the talls shield tho!? Too many details to cover

  48. Nick_Scryer
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed: Dragons, yea! The Pan -Starrs Comet has announced their coming. The view frommany places has been spectacular.

    I’m not certain what the EW article meant by “making the dragons even bigger
    turned out stupid ‘. The promo of Drogon flying near the ship ,appeared larger
    in size. I guess we’ll see in a few weeks.

    I said the Direwolves not Dragons. It’s actually in this article lol I thought it was in the magazine.

    Also stupid was the wrong word, he says:

    Fans will notice fewer changes with the show’s direwolves this year. After growing from pups in the first season to large beasts in season two, producers have opted to keep them at the same size to maintain a greater sense of realism.

    “We did some testing and at a certain point they look unreal,” Weiss says. “We reached a nice balance with them.”

  49. pntrlqst
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Day,

    Or, conversely, you’re never going to hear him say, “They changed something in my story for reasons that are inexplicable and I don’t like it.”

    Either way, he’s never candid when asked questions regarding deviations.

  50. DjWeideman
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    One change in the show from the books, that I was really impressed by was Theon’s murder of Ser Rodrik. In the books, Rodrik’s death happened ‘off-screen’ and merely showed that all of the Stark clansmen were eliminated. By putting the sword in Theon’s hand, D & D really showed just how “truly lost” Theon would become. It was the final, irrevocable act that echoed Ned’s death in Season 1. It sets the stage for anything to happen in the future. And all without ruining the overall thrust of the main story.

    My instinct tells me we can trust Benioff and Weiss to do the right thing.

  51. Alan
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer: I said the Direwolves not Dragons. It’s actually in this article lol I thought it was in the magazine.

    Also stupid was the wrong word, he says:

    Fans will notice fewer changes with the show’s direwolves this year. After growing from pups in the first season to large beasts in season two, producers have opted to keep them at the same size to maintain a greater sense of realism.

    “We did some testing and at a certain point they look unreal,” Weiss says. “We reached a nice balance with them.”

    The issue that they are referring to is two-fold.

    They have decided not to do pure CGI direwolves. They imply that between the fur and movement, it just looks crappy. We know how wolves move and look; we don’t with dragons so our brains are more likely to accept them as “real.”

    So, instead they are sizing up real wolves. Except a couple of things happen when you push the size. One, our brains tell us wolves don’t get that big. But two, and this tends to be more important, certain things don’t scale right if you just make it bigger.

    An eyeball does. Hair doesn’t. Flames don’t — you can’t set fire to a model house and have it look like a house burning. And Hair/Fur is probably a big issue here. Put those Wolves at 150%, and the hair doesn’t look like hair on a bigger animal, it looks like strangely large hair.

  52. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 14, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Just please though, let’s not make all the alpha males fighting a singular quest, for love of a woman. Robb, Jon and Stannis , had distinctive roles compared to Robert. I’m missing the
    push for sovereign power.

    Really? You’re not seeing the quest for power from Stannis? From Robb, fine -it’s clear that his quest is not the same (the books also don’t make clear how drawn out his plan is either…does he plan on conquering the Seven Kingdoms or just throwing everyone out of the North?). But Stannis seems pretty hellbent on becoming king, and Jon, well, it’s unclear what Jon’s journey is by now as well.

  53. Steven Swanson
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    Jentario:
    People who want PW next season are dooming this season to a hopeless and heart wrenching ending that will leave many viewers unsatisfied. The only thing that can make up for it is some vengeance- PW.

    Tough titty, weak-ass little bitches will just need to deal with it. And they will, don’t worry.

    Anyway, Dany’s storyline should give you the counterweight you’re seeking.

  54. Steven Swanson
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    pntrlqst:
    Day,

    Or, conversely, you’re never going to hear him say, “They changed something in my story for reasons that are inexplicable and I don’t like it.”

    Either way, he’s never candid when asked questions regarding deviations.

    Exactly, because he’s a professional, and is not going to throw these guys under the bus. He took his interviewing lessons from Crash Davis, “I just want to help the ball club, and the good lord willing, things will all work out.”

  55. WildSeed
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 3:26 am | Permalink

    Zack:
    WildSeed,

    Read it again, he said direwolves, not dragons. I’m disappointed they won’t be gigantic wolves but it’s not like they ever actually had more than 5 minutes of time on screen per season anyway…

    ah, yes, thanks for fixing my slip up. Still, we haven’t seen much of them.
    Greywind was huge in size though, can’t imagine him much bigger than S2.

  56. WildSeed
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 3:49 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    Yes, I caught my slip up. Both were mentioned, but in different aspects of the show.

    Arthur and I were discussing Direwolves , in an earlier post, and I’m jazzed about the
    recent comet display just yesterday. I keep remembering ACOK with the mention of
    the Red Comet heralding a new age. Old Nan and maester Aemon mentioned
    dragons, I believe.

  57. WildSeed
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 3:54 am | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    TV Stannis is okay, just too much seduction taking place on screen. Even Davos
    called him out on the influence Mel is having. No worries, the ” hell bent ” Stannis
    made his appearance at the Blackwater episode. There’s more to come in future episodes.

  58. dragonreborn
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    People still talking about PW drive me mad! If someone says in an interview that Joff farts, you conclude that PW will happen now!

    Are you trolling or something? If PW is in this season how come they could say the book is split into 2 parts? They’d have to move to book 4 in season 4.

    There’s a lot of good stuff to prepare us for the PW. Actually the second half of the book is all about that. 4th season will be all about that as well.
    So please stop doing this!

  59. Door
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    I can’t wait for the speculation over the PW to end, but I suppose it won’t till episode 10. It would be too much to cram it in this season, they have loads going on already! It wouldn’t leave enough big stuff for season 4 either.

  60. zod
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    Door,

    I guess it will stop as soon as we get the episodes synopsis from HBO.

  61. Petrus
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    Maybe they will just teleport Arya to Joffreys doorstep and kill him that way in episode 10. No PW needed and a great final which people can relish in until season 4 …;)

  62. Duff Man
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    RW doesn’t happen until episode 9 and episode 1o is always more of a wrap up episode so I don’t see any way possible that the PW is this season Not to mention the role of the Red Viper has yet to be cast and last time I checked he was present for the PW No Viper no PW

  63. Kate
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Doc,

    That’s always good to hear! I know GRRM must get tired of his fans pushing for him to write faster but…. I don’t want to have to wait 5 years for the next book! And I certainly don’t want the last season of GoT to come out before the last book, which there was talk of since D&D know generally how it will all end.

  64. MrsWun
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Josh,

    Hear hear

  65. ebevan91
    Posted March 15, 2013 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Duff Man:
    RW doesn’t happen until episode 9 and episode 1o is always more of a wrap up episode so Idon’t see any way possible that the PW is this seasonNot to mention the role of the Red Viper has yet to be cast and last time I checked he was present for the PWNo Viper no PW

    I think the PW should be in episode 2 of season 4. Like you said, episode 10 of a GoT season is usually wrap up, and episode 1 of a season is usually introducing new characters and locations.

    The RW and PW were fairly close together in the book, only like 100 pages or so (8 chapters) between the two.


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