Latest Game of Thrones trailer shows No Mercy
By Winter Is Coming on in Media.

The Game of Thrones Season 3 “No Mercy” trailer is finally online. And it is as good as advertised.

Winter Is Coming: Dragons! Daario! Drums, drums, drums!


347 Comments

  1. Sky Aero
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    YES IT IS COMING!!!!!!!

  2. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    great trailer!

  3. Pointy End
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    yessssssssss

  4. Selmy
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Amazing…

  5. Omar Brown
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Hahaha Daario! Stand by for ladies going nuts in 3…2…1….

  6. Arthur
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Holy freaking shit!

    You guys see that action!!!

    Drogon on a leash!

    Omg OMG!

    Nerdspasm!!!!!

  7. Stu
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Wait a minute, is that Thoros and Melisandre in the same shot? (0:39)

  8. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    The dragons do not disappoint!
    Dracarys!

  9. Sam
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    I’m thinking that those masked horsemen are Dreadfort men.

  10. LordDavos12
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Holy potatoes, GoT with Tron music. The closer we get, the longer it feels!

  11. Hollyoak
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    This has been the most insane past few days in Thrones World.

    Did you see that direwolf?

    Did you see that bear?

    Did you see A FREAKING DRAGON ON A LEASH?

  12. Chris S.
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Dracarys…

    Reek getting tortured at :48

  13. Arthur
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    Why isn’t this new thread available on my PC it only loads on my iPhone I want to watch it and freeze clips on my PC screen?

  14. MyBFFTheHound
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Everyone thinking Theon had lost a foot, nope, it’s just inside a torture chamber. Let’s turn the screws!

  15. Anguissette1979
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    Full transcript (tweaked from when I posted in the beast thread):

    Tyrion: How long does it go on?
    Cersei: Until we’ve dealt with all our enemies.
    Tyrion: Seven Kingdoms united in fear of Tywin Lannister
    Jojen: The Night’s Watch can’t stop them, kings and their armies can’t stop them.
    Stannis: The darkness will devour them all unless I triumph.
    Thoros/Beric(?): We do not choose our destiny. We must do our duty now. Great or small, we must do our duty.
    Daenerys: Explain to me how you propose to defeat us.
    Joffrey: I am THE KING. Everyone is mine to torment!
    Daenerys: I shall show you no mercy.
    Robb: Take his home. Take his gold. Take his power. If we don’t do this and do it now, we’ve lost.
    Tormund: We’re finally going to war.
    Mance: I’m going to light the biggest fire the north has ever seen.
    Mormont: I forbid you to die.
    Jon: Big men fall just as quick as little ones.
    Melisandre: Do you hear them screaming, crying for their gods?

  16. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    Love 1:20 Unsullied have been unleashed!

  17. Sky Aero
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    OMG!

    0.39 Mel + Thoros of Myr in the background
    0.43 Awesome Daario
    0.45 Epic Drogon
    1.09 Stannis and Mel saying goodbye?
    1.15 Bear!
    1.18 Who’s the girl?
    1.22 Even more Epic Drogon

  18. Arthur
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak,

    Dude…

    This is the best trailer ever.

    This shit could be a movie coming out in theaters. Wow, everything looked so good and my biggest notice was all the action and fight scenes.

    Omg Drogon on a leash!!!!!

  19. Isabelle
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    AH-MAZ-ING.

    Not sure if someone else suggested this in the other thread, but my bet is on Ghost leading the NW survivors to safety.

  20. pntrlqst
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Definitely looks like Beric and Mel and Thoros in a cave.

  21. LordStarkington
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Man, this looks fantastic.

    Two more weeks!

  22. zzz
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    Dam wonder when it goes on youtube. Cant watch it from my phone on this website

  23. Anguissette1979
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Stu,

    Looks like it. This is going to pour fuel on the Gendry = Edric Storm fire.

  24. Manny
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Holy freaking Moses Jesus fucking Christ that was fucking amazing. So so so so insane. Two weeks! The season is just going to destroy everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. Chalky White Walker
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Hoooooly shit.

  26. Anguissette1979
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Permalink
  27. Sky Aero
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    So does this confirm Stannis sends of Mel to find Gendry who’ll take on Edric Storm’s storyline. It would be logically, all the shots we’ve seen from Mel and Thoros of Myr.

  28. valonqar
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Could it be Roslin at 1:18? I’m very bad with faces.
    Or if the blond hair belongs to Cersei it could be Jeyne, right?

  29. JP Dayne
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    well so we might as well assume by that shot with mel and thoros that the change about sacrificing gendry instead of edric is confirmed.
    I also assume melisandre is gonna see gendry in the fires and/or communicate with thoros
    I’m SO not okay with this, because Melisandre never had any contact that we know of with another red priest in westeros

  30. Nezzer
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    -I think that’s Theon at 1:15 being kicked by someone.
    -Those riders we were speculating about earlier turned out to be Ironborn, but the single masked rider is not one of them, apparently.
    -Harrenhal is now confirmed to make a return, being captured by Robb, just as we have thought since the first trailer.
    -Queenscrown at 1:12. Notice that Osha and Rickon are not among Bran’s gang anymore. I think that black thing they are seeing is Sam coming out of a hole or something.

  31. Chuck88
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Ramsay’s hands!

    Also I’m utterly sold on the whole Mel and Thoros teaming up to steal Gendry for Stannis theory now. Good move from the producers if it turns out to be true.

  32. Doug M.
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Would have loved to have heard “DRACARYS!!!!” at the end of the trailer…

  33. pntrlqst
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    valonqar,

    No, that’s Charlotte Hope… Cast as a character named Myranda.

  34. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Sky Aero,

    I think it is Elisa Lasowski who will play the mysterious “Mirelle”.
    Scratch that. Pntrlqst is correct. Forgot about Charlotte Hope being cast… Oops.

    Is that Cersei undressing her?

  35. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Dragon fishing at 0:45
    Joffrey escorting Sansa to her wedding, Daario fighting, and is that, Thoros with Melisandre? I’m not sure. That actor looks nothing like him. Must be an extra playing one of Stannis’s men. LOL. sorry.

  36. Joan Català
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    Great trailer, gorgeous looking Summer (or is it Grey Wind?). A couple of issues though:
    - At 00:26 we have a Ghost sighting, and it looks like he’s with the Men of the Night’s Watch (Lord Commander is the second on the left right?) Why isn’t he with Jon, or nearby? We saw him following Jon and the Halfhand in Season 2.
    - The Mel/Thoros situation: it seems they WILL share scenes. I remain skeptical to this change. It’s the biggest one yet, I think. We’ll have to see how it develops.
    - Does anyone agree with me if I say that’s a horrendous set they’ve built? (The one where Joffrey appears constantly, with Sansa once. Sept of Baelor inside?)

  37. Omar Brown
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    1:18 new girl….maybe Roslyn Frey…during the bedding! Eeek!

  38. tysnow
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Ghost sighting, not one but two, about freakin time we had some Direwolf action.

    Did you notice that look on Cersei when Marg and Joff walked out of the Sept, priceless.

    Yep that is Thoros (bowing) as Mel walks into BwB cave, she definitely is the Queen red bitch High Priestess of R’hillor. I like D&D enlarging the mythos of the red priesthood and the new interaction.

    The two bowmen on horseback are Ironborn.

    Wow, talk about sword mayhem over in Slavers Bay, we have Jorah, Daario, and appears to be Arstan in background behind Jorah (white hair) painting the scene in red, two weeks cannot come sooner.

    Dracarys! that last shot is the shit, my jaw is still hanging open.

    My God! HBO put some serious Golden Dragons into this season.

  39. pntrlqst
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:26 pm | Permalink
  40. Watson
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    The Great Sept of Baelor is very clean and shiny.

  41. ChristineMarie
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Have mercy, HBO!

  42. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    32 seconds in… I believe that is Stannis talking to a behind bars Davos.

  43. Scott Glennon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    There’s whole lotta cool in that trailer…:-)

    For Winterfell!

  44. Sky Aero
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    So nobody knows who this Mirelle is? Any Guesses?

    EDIT: So i guess it’s Roslin!

  45. House Snow
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Lol at Brienne pink dress at 118

  46. Selmy
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    Drogon catching a fish is my winner shot, can’t wait to see that scene in full length. I wasn’t sure if the Gendry theory was true and now it seems it is. Got to go watch it one last time and watch this night’s Walking Dead.

  47. zzz
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    Anguissette1979:
    zzz,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XSeW4B5Rg

    thanks looks epic. I wonder who that is fighting with the dorthraki sword?

  48. Seriano
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    At 1:12, I thought they were on Queenscrown, but what about that black figure rising? If it’s Sam, then they’re already at the Nightfort.

  49. tysnow
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    JP Dayne,

    I’m SO not okay with this, because Melisandre never had any contact that we know of with another red priest in westeros

    I am fine with the change, this is an adaption, not verbatin word for word. Different medium, I believe I will quite enjoy this change. Gives a fresher feeling to GoT, that way fans can be suprised again.

  50. Quebecois
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Sky Aero,

    Some new lady in waiting and Cersei is inspecting the merchandise?

  51. Caro H
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Oh my daysss!! Ugh-mazing!! Gods, so so so pumped!
    We actually saw Jaime in between the bear and Brienne <3 and Sam meeting Bran and Osha, and the others and the PW, and dragons and wolves and Mel with Thoros! Maybe Arya will overhear the BWoB talking with Mel about either Gendry or selling her to Stannis, and she will run away only to be captured by the Hound!
    in any case, March 31st please please hurry!!!

  52. Omar Brown
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    JP Dayne:
    well so we might as well assume by that shot with mel and thoros that the change about sacrificing gendry instead of edric is confirmed.
    I also assume melisandre is gonna see gendry in the fires and/or communicate with thoros
    I’m SO not okay with this, because Melisandre never had any contact that we know of with another red priest in westeros

    So what? It distills the whole “roberts bastards” storyline and many characters into one the audience already knows. If done well it will serve the same purpose and keep Mel involved since she was missing during much of book 3. Keep calm and see what happens.

  53. FiveStar
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Anyone thinking that GreyWind is growling at the Frey’s right before the RW ?

  54. MyBFFTheHound
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    Joan Català:

    - Does anyone agree with me if I say that’s a horrendous set they’ve built? (The one where Joffrey appears constantly, with Sansa once. Sept of Baelor inside?)

    Yeah, not too keen on it either, but it’s a really minor issue.

  55. Syrio
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    I’m more convinced that PW is in.

    Cersei and the Queen of Thorns are definitely looking at Joffrey and Margaery. The four of them seem to be in the Great Sept (the candles, some of the architectural features seem to be the same as the shot with Joffrey and Sansa entering the Sept earlier in the trailer). However, the Cersei/Queen of Thorns scene is not from Sansa and Tyrion’s wedding, as Cersei and Joffrey are not dressed the same as they were for the footage shown of the wedding (Cersei’s dress is different, Joffrey doesn’t have the big sleeves he has when he’s escorting Sansa to her wedding).

  56. WildSeed
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Yowza !

  57. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Sky Aero,

    I have not seen any definitive notes on Mirelle, but maybe I missed some news along the way….

    If I recall, the consensus (for whatever it’s worth) is that Mirelle is a new girl of Littlefinger’s…

    I still would like her to be Taena of Myr personally. According to IMDB Mirelle appears in 3.01…. Taena arrives with the Tyrell procession in King’s Landing, right? So the timing would fit if she is the show’s Taena…. maybe. XD

  58. House Snow
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    That shot of the white walker in the forest is pretty amazing

  59. Andrew
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:38 pm | Permalink

    So much new stuff in this trailer, everything looks brilliant. Does anyone know if GRRM ever mentioned Gendry coming back to do something later in the novels? If I remember correctly, he just kinda stuck with Stoneheart so he might have something to do later. If he doesn’t, then having him replace Edric is a really smart move in my mind. Edric’s storyline will be much more impactful if it has the life of a character we know hanging in the balance, rather than some new character we’d never seen before.

  60. Luthien
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    MY BODY IS READY.

  61. Watson
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    MyBFFTheHound,
    I don’t much like it. It looks very Stargate.

    Oh well. It’s mostly noticable because the production design has so fantastic on everything else.

  62. UNONUTTINGJONSNOW
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    Absolutely GLORIOUS!
    EASTER IS COMING!

  63. Jéssica De Freitas Maciel
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Hollyoak,

    Dude…

    This is the best trailer ever.

    This shit could be a movie coming out in theaters.Wow, everything looked so good and my biggest notice was all the action and fight scenes.

    Omg Drogon on a leash!!!!!

    I seriously have to agree here…

  64. House Snow
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    Is it just me or does Stannis look different in just about every scene since season 2 began.

  65. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    I’m done with speculation. I don’t care what chances they might have made, I’m not interested in the theories, what may happen, may not happen, what’s different from the book, what’s not. We’ve officially reached silly season for us obsessives. While everyone else is finally starting to pay attention, we’ve been watching and waiting for months, looking at casting, looking ahead to Season 4, et cetera, et cetera. Now there’s nothing more to be done but wait, two more weeks. So it’s all theories now. We’ll see what the changes are soon enough, but to go over every preview with a fine-toothed comb, to me, risks robbing us of the pleasure of seeing it as it finally develops. I know we’re all anxious.

    But for me, I’m now just going to enjoy the utter bad-assedness of this trailer, seeing these great shots of Ghost, yet another quick view of the Beric/Hound showdown, Stannis looking grim as usual, White Walkers, a dragon on a leash, Daario. It looks goddamned epic. This season is going to be insane, and dare I say given what’s being held in reserve for Season 4, THAT season is going to be insane as well.

  66. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Joan Català,

    That limited view of the pillars and levels does look a bit odd to me ,but I think the Sept will look better when we see more of it in the episode. Sometimes details can be overpowering in a narrow field of vision, but when taken in as part of an entire room or vignette they don’t look as obvious and well, odd.

  67. Brian
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Syrio,

    I don’t see it. He’s walking Sansa into the buidling, and we know she’s having her wedding. But he’s walking with Margaery out of the building. I’d say he’s making an announcement or something to a crowd.

    Nezzer, Seriano,

    Good catch. I can’t think of any explanation for that scene being at Queenscrown. Maybe they’ll end Bran’s storyline with Coldhands.

  68. Omar Brown
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber:
    I’m done with speculation. I don’t care what chances they might have made, I’m not interested in the theories, what may happen, may not happen, what’s different from the book, what’s not. We’ve officially reached silly season for us obsessives. While everyone else is finally starting to pay attention, we’ve been watching and waiting for months, looking at casting, looking ahead to Season 4, et cetera, et cetera. Now there’s nothing more to be done but wait, two more weeks. So it’s all theories now. We’ll see what the changes are soon enough, and to go over every preview with a fine-toothed comb, to me, risks robbing us of the pleasure of seeing it as it finally develops. I know we’re all anxious.

    But for me, I’m now just going to enjoy the utter bad-assedness of this trailer, seeing these great shots of Ghost, yet another quick view of the Beric/Hound showdown, Stannis looking grim as usual, White Walkers, a dragon on a leash, Daario. It looks goddamned epic. This season is going to be insane, and dare I say given what’s being held in reserve for Season 4, THAT season is going to be insane as well.

    Its is fucking KNOWN! Thank you Greatjon!

  69. AngryGoTFan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    BUT WHERE ARE THE ZORSES?!?!

  70. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown,

    No problem! And hell, I like anyone named Omar given The Wire connection.

  71. GG
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Well that puts any question of whether or not The Purple Wedding happens this season to bed. So many goodbyes, so little time.

  72. the other guy
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Once again, awesome trailer. Seems like the Gendry theory is confirmed, Mel will interact with the BwB. And I really wonder what’s going on in the Margaery shot at 1:14.

  73. Terror-Filled Knight
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Anguissette1979:
    Full transcript (tweaked from when I posted in the beast thread):

    Tyrion: How long does it go on?
    Cersei: Until we’ve dealt with all our enemies.
    Tyrion: Seven Kingdoms united in fear of Tywin Lannister
    Jojen: The Night’s Watch can’t stop them, kings and their armies can’t stop them.
    Stannis: The darkness will devour them all unless I triumph.
    Thoros/Beric(?): We do not choose our destiny. We must do our duty now. Great or small, we must do our duty.
    Daenerys: Explain to me how you propose to defeat us.
    Joffrey: I am THE KING. Everyone is mine to torment!
    Daenerys: I shall show you no mercy.
    Robb: Take his home. Take his gold. Take his power. If we don’t do this and do it now, we’ve lost.
    Tormund: We’re finally going to war.
    Mance: I’m going to light the biggest fire the north has ever seen.
    Mormont: I forbid you to die.
    Jon: Big men fall just as quick as little ones.
    Melisandre: Do you hear them screaming, crying for their gods?

    The “we must do our duty” part is most definitely still Stannis talking. That’s a line right from the books.

  74. Bolan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer,

    Nice spot of Theon being kicked, he’s surrounded by guys and the one kicking him has the Bolton sigil.

  75. Kit
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    Terror-Filled Knight,

    I agree–definitely Stannis still talking. It’s ripped straight from a conversation with Davos in ASoS.

  76. Syrio
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Brian,

    He’s wearing completely different clothing? It’s not part of the same scene.

  77. Rui
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    zzz,
    Either Belwas (but I don’t know if he was cast), or one of the Brave Companions. IMO it doesn’t look like one of the people from Dany’s khalasar.

  78. Jamb0
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Ok, that one gave me goosebumps :)

  79. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Brian: I don’t see it. He’s walking Sansa into the buidling, and we know she’s having her wedding. But he’s walking with Margaery out of the building. I’d say he’s making an announcement or something to a crowd.

    Tha was how I took it too.

    It looks to me like Joffrey is giving Sansa away (at Tyrion’s wedding) and then Joffrey is walking out with Margery. Like you said, maybe to introduce his future bride to the masses?

    It surely could be to introduce his new wife too of course, but I’m still skeptical. Maybe the PW is a fade-to-black finale scene, bu the wedding dinner does not take place… This is the first real evidence of a possible PW though.

  80. Anguissette1979
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Terror-Filled Knight,

    You know, I originally had it as all Stannis based on the low-quality version but when I listed to the high-res it sounded like a slightly different accent (and was over Beric/Thoros/Cave shot). So much for second guessing myself. I can’t edit anymore so maybe WiC will take pity on me and tweak it.

  81. Brian
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Syrio,

    I’m saying that weddings take place with people walking INTO the Great Sept (as displayed with Sansa and Joffrey). Since Margaery and Joffrey are walking OUT of the Great Sept, the scene in the preview is not evidence of the Purple Wedding taking place this season. Besides, why would the relatives of the bride and groom watch them leave like that? Where are they going?

  82. I am Comics
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    “I am THE KING!…”

    What a TERRIFIC actor!!!!

  83. Nezzer
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Bolan:
    Nezzer,

    Nice spot of Theon being kicked, he’s surrounded by guys and the one kicking him has the Bolton sigil.

    Yeah, I think that’s a fake Ramsay, the first Reek pretending to be him for some reason. I bet Theon will somehow kill him and piss the real Ramsay off.

  84. Rui
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Mormont’s “I forbid you to die” to Sam while on his deathbed is going to be one of the most emotional scenes in this season, regardless of the RW.

  85. The Flayed Man
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Once again I’ve screen-capped every shot, and speculated on certain issues.

    SPOILERS ENSUE

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151348872277169.1073741828.755877168&type=1

  86. Kit
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    To be fair, I do think Joff leads Sansa “down the aisle,” so to speak, in ASoS as well, since she has no male relatives around and, as king, he’s the head of her family, so to speak.

  87. AJ Johnson
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Best Trailer Ever

  88. Bolan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer,

    In the first trailer there is someone going full pelt on a horse, going by what I remember them looking like it’s Theon and this could be his Dreadfort escape attempt which would explain all the men giving pursuit on horseback we have seen in the last two trailers. Interesting theory about Reek though.

  89. Shadowcat85
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Rui,

    Pretty sure it’s Daario.

  90. Hollyoak
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown: Its is fucking KNOWN! Thank you Greatjon!

    Aye, what Greatjohn said.

  91. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Kit,

    Thanks.
    I was trying to recall if he did or not when I wrote it, then went back and deleted the “odd” part since I was not sure if Joff gave her away or not and do not have my books handy. That settles it!

  92. sunspear
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    That was one seven hells worth of a trailer.

    Still not convinced that of the Thoros/Mel thing, and I think it would be a stupid change.

  93. Michelle Yvette Peeples
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    That was amazing! One of my favorite scenes from the book about to come to life – the Unsullied in Astapor – won’t say anymore for those who have not read the book. Epic, epic stuff.

    Michelle Peeples
    @ZedShowgirl (Twitter)

  94. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Who are the guys at 1:04 on the horses with bows? Are they Dreadfort men? Perhaps Ramsay having a “hunt” for his newest toy? That being Theon for those that can’t figure it out.

  95. I am Comics
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    The Flayed Man,

    Wow!!, thank you very much!!

  96. Kit
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    I’m not positive, mind you, but I can’t really think of who else would do it, so I default to Joff. Maybe Tywin, but that seems a bit of a stretch. :)

  97. Hollyoak
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    MyBFFTheHound: Yeah, not too keen on it either, but it’s a really minor issue.

    I thought it looked awesome. Very fantasy-ish. It still fits the world of GoT.

  98. Abyss
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Stu,

    Yes, it’s him. Interesting…

  99. Nezzer
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    KingJon,

    Those are Ironborn. Look at their helmets. I don’t know if it’s the same group that the masked rider belongs to. If it is, I think they are Dreadfort men dressed as Ironborn, after taking the outfits from Dagmer’s gang (after killing/capturing them all, I bet).

  100. Bolan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    KingJon,

    My theory is that Theon escapes on the way from Winterfell, maybe kills Reek posing as Ramsay, gets caught and taken to the Dreadfort, meets real Ramsay and gets his foot ruined for fleeing.

  101. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    Kit,

    No, you are correct. I just pulled my old kindle out of storage and double checked.

  102. Kelly
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Trailer was great. Liked the Beast/War music better though; I wasn’t as gripped by it compared to the other ones. Love the Daario cameos though; looks exactly as I would have imagined, although he doesn’t have the facial hair

  103. René
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    I don’t mind changes concerning Carice. Or else we would hardly see her this season.

  104. The Kingslayer
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Lord of Ligth, give me a patience! two more weeks..

  105. Petearys
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    Haha wow Tron music for sure. GoT is on the grid!

    LordDavos12,

  106. Darquemode
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Bolan,

    So in your theory is Iwan Rheon (playing “Boy”) going to be Reek (who dies in your theory) and not Ramsay? Or will he be Ramsay?

  107. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but have we’ve seen any evidence or confirmation of the PW happening this season? If it does, than what the hell they gonna do in season 4? The RW is the big shocker of this season. PW will be season 4. Could be episode 1 or 10, but it will be season 4. I doubt D&D are going to try and jam two of the biggest moments of the books into one season when they don’t have to.

  108. The Dragon Demands
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Taking Gendry to Stannis would be too big of a change; my hope is that Thoros just gives Melisandre some leeches he used on Gendry once, and it’s close enough for her to accept.

  109. Hounded
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    If you can find anything to complain about in this trailer then you are truly the most thrice-damned ungrateful fan ever. Look how fucking lucky we are. Our favourite books are being made into a fucking amazing series by HBO, the greatest TV network to ever exist. D&D are massive fans who love the books as much as we do. I honestly believe no one else alive on this earth could do an adaption as good as this. Thank you D&D, thank you everyone involved in making this show. I am a truly grateful fan and I thank my lucky stars for this show. With the amount of shit on TV and the media in general Game of Thrones is a fucking shining beacon of brilliance. No it may not be able to include everything from the books or do everything little thing exactly how you want it but it is the best possible Game of Thrones adaption there could possibly be. Just think – at one point there was talk of a movie adaption where they wouldn’t kill off Ned. (Grrm said no obviously). But just imagine that! We are truly lucky to have this show. Rant over. One truly grateful fan.

  110. Drfunk
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    That trailer was so epic, I’m at a loss of words… my brain is hurting from seeing so much awesomeness in such a short time……..

  111. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    Really? Mel is in the same cave where the Beric/Hound fight occurs. Beric is standing in front of her and Thoros is behind her. This change can work if executed correctly. Remember, Davos helps Edric escape. He can do the same with Gendry. It is also possible that Melisandre may only take his blood.

  112. Bolan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    He’s definitely the real Ramsay if you ask me. Hence the secrecy over his casting.

  113. Anguissette1979
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Hounded,

    Amen, brother! *fist bump*

  114. Boromir
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Seriously, is this like the Twelve Days of Westeros or something? No trailer for months and then BAM! a new one every day. Oh well; I’m certainly not complaining!

  115. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    The Dragon Demands,

    What does Gendry do after Arya leaves? He has been in one chapter the past two and half books. There is no reason he can’t return to the Riverlands and the Brotherhood to search for Arya once Davos helps him escape. Remember, Edric had no idea Stannis and Melisandre meant to harm him, and Gendry won’t either. If executed properly, this could be one of the better alterations that suits the show much better.

  116. Zack
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    I’m all tingly

    best one yet, though. Now to watch it a hundred times.

  117. Bolan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer,

    I can’t look at it in more detail at the moment, butthe armour also bears resemblance to what we have seen Northern troops wearing, and one of the Bolton men on horseback with Locke in a production video wore something very similar. I’m pretty sure that’s the Bolton sigil on the surcoat of one of them too, whereas the Ironborn wore breastplates. What if there is actually some sort of Bolton/Ironborn clash? It would explain the presence of Yara.

  118. Anguissette1979
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    For those who don’t know, the name of the Daft Punk track from Tron Legacy is “The Game Has Changed”. Perfect.

  119. The_Wanderer
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Drogon is chained. Can’t wait to see Astapor fall, I’m guessing that’s what that is. Sansa looks she is being led to her wedding by Joffrey, too. So many good things happening in these trailers. One right after another, it’s about time.

  120. AngryGoTFan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Hounded,

    BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ZORSE??

  121. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer,

    I was thinking that the guys on the horses were Ironborn as well. It would make sense since they’re carrying bows and the the Ironborn according to Theon, are very skilled with them. However, after watching it again, over and over, using the play/pause slow mo technique. It’s apparent to me that it’s Theon being kicked on the ground (by a guy holding a bow). Thus, they must be Dreadfort men. But perhaps they are Dreadfort men playing mind games with Theon by wearing Ironborn uniforms? That could make sense. Ramsay toying with his prey.

  122. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    Rui:
    Mormont’s “I forbid you to die” to Sam while on his deathbed is going to be one of the most emotional scenes in this season, regardless of the RW.

    I dare say that one may rival Maester Luwin’s death, a scene I’ve watched maybe 20 times now, and kills me every single time I see it.

    “They burned everything.”

    “Not everything. Not you.”

    Gets me every time.

  123. The_Wanderer
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    Hounded:
    If you can find anything to complain about in this trailer then you are truly the most thrice-damned ungrateful fan ever. Look how fucking lucky we are. Our favourite books are being made into a fucking amazing series by HBO, the greatest TV network to ever exist. D&D are massive fans who love the books as much as we do. I honestly believe no one else alive on this earth could do an adaption as good as this. Thank you D&D, thank you everyone involved in making this show. I am a truly grateful fan and I thank my lucky stars for this show. With the amount of shit on TV and the media in general Game of Thrones is a fucking shining beacon of brilliance. No it may not be able to include everything from the books or do everything little thing exactly how you want it but it is the best possible Game of Thrones adaption there could possibly be. Just think – at one point there was talk of a movie adaption where they wouldn’t kill off Ned. (Grrm said no obviously). But just imagine that! We are truly lucky to have this show. Rant over. One truly grateful fan.

    Hounded – Couldn’t have put it better myself

  124. Jess
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    2 more weeks!!! this is so epic!!!!!!!!!!!!

  125. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Hounded:
    If you can find anything to complain about in this trailer then you are truly the most thrice-damned ungrateful fan ever. Look how fucking lucky we are. Our favourite books are being made into a fucking amazing series by HBO, the greatest TV network to ever exist. D&D are massive fans who love the books as much as we do. I honestly believe no one else alive on this earth could do an adaption as good as this. Thank you D&D, thank you everyone involved in making this show. I am a truly grateful fan and I thank my lucky stars for this show. With the amount of shit on TV and the media in general Game of Thrones is a fucking shining beacon of brilliance. No it may not be able to include everything from the books or do everything little thing exactly how you want it but it is the best possible Game of Thrones adaption there could possibly be. Just think – at one point there was talk of a movie adaption where they wouldn’t kill off Ned. (Grrm said no obviously). But just imagine that! We are truly lucky to have this show. Rant over. One truly grateful fan.

    It is known. Or as Omar Little would say, “Indeed, motherfucker.”

  126. Arthur
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    The_Wanderer,

    I agree…

    This series is such high quality it can easily be a 10 hour per season big screen event.

    Look at this trailer. This is a TV series???

    I never seen anything like this on TV, EVER!

  127. Choomanama
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    I have a oath for all S3 trailers that binds me never watch them more than once. This trailer was the hardest not to break my vows on.

  128. Hi-Fi
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    OMG

    Seriously, we’re so lucky. This was awesome.

  129. Skipdutch
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    KingJon,

    GRRM jammed both scenes in the first 3/4ths of the book, and still had time for 2 more big deaths (not counting the Mountain and Shae) in that region. Remember, Kings Landing scenes in the 4th season can involve Tyrions initial trial, Tyrion interacting with Oberyn, Jamie returning to KL, Jamie interacting with Tywin/Cersie/King’s Guard, Oberyn offering to defend Tyrion in Trial by Combat with the Mountain, Tyrion waiting for his death, his freedom via Jamie, and subsequent falling out, plus the big death in KL for Season 4, Tywin at Tyrion’s hand. And that is only if they don’t choose to pull some stuff from future books, which they certainly could.
    If you look at the summary of events in the the ASOS on the Wiki of Ice and Fire, you will see that PW happens smack dab in the middle.

  130. Hi-Fi
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    So that’s Myranda. Her dress is kinda fancy to be Roslin’s , right? Who is she supposed to be? What’s her role? So many questions!

  131. binarys3rf
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    Yes, ASOS is the book with the strongest images, and I was thrilled when I heard the writer Vanessa Taylor talk about how one of D&D’s directives was to increase the cinematic flavor of this season, stronger images and not just words. It’s clear from these trailers they really have changed THEIR game and THE game. I think we’re in for TV history here folks. It’s gonna be awesome.

  132. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    sunspear:
    That was one seven hells worth of a trailer.

    Still not convinced that of the Thoros/Mel thing, and I think it would be a stupid change.

    Yeah, I’m with you.
    So far the alterations haven’t convinced me, especially the botched Jon Snow’s storyline in S2. But…this season looks far better than the previous one.
    We’ll see what happens. Cannot wait!

    Edit.
    Well, to be honest I really liked Arya and Tywin interacting in Harrenhal. And some minor alterations were cool.
    But…yeah, I’m doubting that this Mel/Thoros thing will be good.

  133. Isabelle
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Arthur: This series is such high quality it can easily be a 10 hour per season big screen event.

    We get nearly 11 hours this season. It’s like our birthdays + Christmas + every single other holiday on the calendar all at once. Too bloody cool.

  134. Throne To The Wolves
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 10:57 pm | Permalink

    Best trailer for a TV show that i have ever seen — and may be the coolest trailer i’ve ever seen, period. Although, i’m not a fan of the music-choice…

    Hounded,

    Here here! I thought the same thing about the Lord Of The Rings Trilogy. One can find spots that could have been done “better,” but overall i don’t think any team could have done an overall better job than what was accomplished (given the same budget and time-frame). This GoT adaptation is no different. It’s damn well done.

    ALSO, about the “awful-ish” architecture behind Joffrey/Sansa. There is a couple frames before their close-up that shows them walking into the chamber. It shows the “heights” of the room with stars and other patterns, and it’s huge and looks very cool. That somewhat “garish” horizontal pattern is subdued within the expanse of the overall space.

    Oh, and that red priestess is one lovely woman. In the light of the fire in the cave she looks splendid.

    That is all. Now to watch once more…

  135. Hexonx
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber: It is known. Or as Omar Little would say, “Indeed, motherfucker.”

    Or as Jesse Pinkman would say, “Yeah Bitch!”

  136. Kraznys mo Nakloz
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    A dragon unleashed on my face!!!!

    Oh god! I wish this TV series has been made of 3D!

  137. KingJon
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Skipdutch,

    Yes I know. But you must remember this is a TV adaption. Having the RW and the PW in the same season would be such a waste. Sure there are other things they can play up, but I don’t see it. I believe the PW will be early next season, and Tyrion’s escape will be in episode 9.

  138. Hexonx
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle: We get nearly 11 hours this season. It’s like our birthdays + Christmas + every single other holiday on the calendar all at once. Too bloody cool.

    11 hours? Are you sure? I remember reading that this years episodes are about 5 minutes longer than S1 & S2 (like 57 min instead of 52). Which adds up to about enough for 11 episodes worth @ the previous length but altogether it will still be less than 10 hours.

  139. Isabelle
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:20 pm | Permalink

    Hexonx: 11 hours? Are you sure?I remember reading that this years episodes are about 5 minutes longer than S1 & S2 (like 57 min instead of 52).Which adds up to about enough for 11 episodes worth @ the previous length but altogether it will still be less than 10 hours.

    Eleven episodes, then–close enough :-) The point is, we get MORE!

  140. Lazlo Woodbine
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    A trailer hasn’t given me the shivers like that since before Season 1 started!

  141. MaPandora
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    I like what Greatjonof slumber said. And after what I saw of Daario? My husband will be happy with me tonight. Hello.

  142. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:26 pm | Permalink

    My way of preparing for Season 3: Watch the first two seasons, but in completely random order. So far:

    Winter is Coming
    The Kingsroad (ok, so those are 2 in a row)
    Fire and Blood
    Cripples, Bastards and Broken Things
    Golden Crown
    What Is Dead May Never Die
    The Old Gods and the New
    The Pointy End

    It’s nice to look at each episode by itself, and find bits of context/interesting moments that I might have not considered because I was more concerned with the primary plot points as the story moved forward.

  143. Juan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    Anyone know who the wildlings are fighting at 1:02?

  144. Winterlarks
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    So much information crammed into a little piece of time! Just like each show, frankly. Am nearly through ASoS, again, and the trailer was a generous splurge. Oh, I am looking forward to this season. What am I saying??? OK, I have mixed feelings about what I will be seeing but I want to see it just the same. It is epic. I’m also watching season 2 DVDs. Saturation is good.

  145. RD3
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Are we positive it’s Cersei in both clips? Meaning:
    1. walking away from the Queen of Thorns
    2. looking up at Joffrey and Margaery

    In the first clip she seems a bit more rushed, whereas the figure in the foreground looking at Joff and Margaery seems to have hands clasped, relatively still (almost looks like Sansa to me). Also, Cersei’s dress in the first shot has an open top with a sort of stiff rounded collar, while that can’t really be seen on the person watching Joff and Marg. And if the Queen of Thorns and Cersei were in the Sept, why would they be on another staircase going up just after you’d walk down from the entrance (where Joff and Margaery are leaving)?

    It looks like it could be clever editing of either two different shots of Cersei, or a shot of Cersei and a shot of Sansa. Can anyone prove me right/wrong?

  146. Luana
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:34 pm | Permalink

    So is this new Myranda character played by Charlotte Hope supposed to be Taena?

  147. Dan
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:35 pm | Permalink

    I love the Jorah Mormont fight sequence!! He looks very bad ass…

  148. Arthur
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    I still can’t get over it…

    Guys, this is TV. Can you believe it?

    I guess all this talk of “The GOlden Age of Television” is true.

    HBO is leading the way with an epic drama/fantasy/action/adventure series that is unparalleled in relation to quality in all aspects.

    Oh and BTW, did you see Drogon on a leash!!! =P

  149. House Snow
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    I think Bran has mastered every way to wake up startled.

  150. Arthur
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    House Snow,

    I think Bran has mastered every way to wake up startled.

    I don’t think of it as “Him waking up”, it appears that way because he has no choice but to always be laying down. Know what I am saying?

  151. Watson
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Skipdutch,

    I remain highly ambivalent about whether or not the PW shows up in season 3. It will be amazing no matter where they put it. It would be a fantastic season closer; it would be a fantastic season opener. I will never understand why there has been so much hand wringing over where they place what will ultimately be a 10-15 minute scene. Nor will I understand how the six(!) chapters that separate the RW from the PW are so frequently estimated to take several episodes to cover.

    The argument you are rebutting is so confusing to me. People keep asking what would happen in season 4 if the PW is in season 3. Uh, maybe something from the 2 and a half remaining books? You’ve given a smashing list of what happens after the PW in King’s Landing. Can I point out that Tyrion and Sansa’s wedding is the only thing that happens in King’s Landing before the PW?

    Seriously, if you can’t imagine the season ending without the PW, then you have no imagination.
    If you can’t imagine the PW happening without Mace Tyrell or Oberyn Martell being introduced first, then you also have no imagination.
    Really, Mace Tyrell is important now? Quickly everyone shout your favorite Mace Tyrell quote!

    *crickets*

    There are plenty of happenings and plenty of shocks left after Joffrey’s wedding, so can we all just shut up about whether it’s going to be in this season and focus on how fucking awesome this trailer is?

  152. caravaggio
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    1:19 – Roslin about to be bedded? She looks appropriately… tearful. :(

  153. Mimsy
    Posted March 17, 2013 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    Crazy beautiful fantasy! I’m so glad HBO is 100% behind this story and D&D are such fans of the books. Every shot of these trailers is amazing! What action!!

    To the best book of the series… CHEERS!!!!!

  154. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    1:18 new girl….maybe Roslyn Frey…during the bedding! Eeek!

    Yes, spot on.

  155. SeanB
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:04 am | Permalink

    Hexonx,

    I think I read somewhere that they got special permission from HBO to make the last episode longer than 1 hour. Maybe they are doing a 1.5-2 hour finale to squeeze PW in?

  156. Mursk
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    I’ll accept Mel heading somewhere else and getting captured by the BWB and meeting Thoros that way, but I won’t accept a change where she is so powerful and skilled that she can walk across enemy territory and pinpoint a mobile group of guerrilla fighters. Too ridiculous. Maybe she’s off to get close enough to Robb to try and assassinate him shadow-baby style? Something, anything other than her tracking down the BWB like she’s got Westeros’ version of TomTom.

    I still think it’s a bad idea for an added plot development. I like Mel secluded in her little bubble with Team Stannis. I don’t like her meeting with another Red Priest and comparing notes.

    And there’s no reason for Gendry to ever make it back to Dragonstone to be rescued by Davos. Just have Thoros disagree with Melisandre and have the BWB protect the boy, sending Mel packing back to her Chosen One. That way he doesn’t end up somewhere else.

  157. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Mursk:
    I’ll accept Mel heading somewhere else and getting captured by the BWB and meeting Thoros that way, but I won’t accept a change where she is so powerful and skilled that she can walk across enemy territory and pinpoint a mobile group of guerrilla fighters. Too ridiculous. Maybe she’s off to get close enough to Robb to try and assassinate him shadow-baby style? Something, anything other than her tracking down the BWB like she’s got Westeros’ version of TomTom.


    I still think it’s a bad idea for an added plot development. I like Mel secluded in her little bubble with Team Stannis. I don’t like her meeting with another Red Priest and comparing notes.

    And there’s no reason for Gendry to ever make it back to Dragonstone to be rescued by Davos. Just have Thoros disagree with Melisandre and have the BWB protect the boy, sending Mel packing back to her Chosen One. That way he doesn’t end up somewhere else.

    From the looks of it, I’m afraid that’s exactly what is going to happen.
    The jet-pack syndrome. Probably “the flames showed her the way”.

  158. Steel_Wind
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    No, it really isn’t too big of a change. A change? To be sure. It also is logical and meets the needs of the show in all of the circumstances, The “too big” adjective you are ascribing to it is now fundamentalism posing as reasonable critique.

    Moreover, we have backstory with Mel’s character which emerged only through a unique internal POV monologue in ADwD. By tying Thoros to Mel directly, D&D now allow for another avenue of possible exposition in subsequent seasons concerning Melony. Gendry for Edric is an inconsequential change — and probably one for the best in terms of dramatic tension.

    My greater concern is with Bran. By moving the Nightfort from the end of Book 3, we are definitely heading into A Dance with Dragons in Bran’s tale during Season 4 (or, alternatively, just D&D making up new stuff for Bran to do completely).

    It’s not a fundamentalist objection, but one of timing. I’m fine with moving it forward as Bran does not have enough to do for two seasons in getting to the Wall. Problem is, the impact may prove to be difficult to juggle in order to move things to a climax at the right point in time.

    In other words, I wonder if D&D aren’t getting themselves into a Meerenese Knot by advancing Bran’s story by a full season so quickly.

  159. Ioco73
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    Holly shit! I’m speechless…I can’t stop watching this trailer!

  160. Melisandre
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    I still hold on to my hope that we’ll not be seeing the PW this season, whatever everyone says or this trailer shows.

    (Great trailer, though).

  161. Hexonx
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:30 am | Permalink

    Isabelle: Eleven episodes, then–close enough :-) The point is, we get MORE!

    Just making sure I didn’t miss something. Definitely stoked about getting more. But no matter how much they give us we will still want more. It’s kinda like crack in that way. ;)

  162. Steel_Wind
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Mursk,

    Given that Melisandre is:

    A)Probably CENTURIES Old;
    B)Undead; and
    C) Able to change her appearance to a degree greater than any of the Faceless Men of Bravos?

    I’m okay with her negotiating the Riverlands on her own – and you should be, too. Mel is actually the only character in the novels we have met so far who actually IS capable of doing that without difficulty, with the possible exceptions of Jaqen and the Kindly Old Man. She is going to a fixed point (cave) — not a band on the run

  163. Hexonx
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    SeanB:
    Hexonx,

    I think I read somewhere that they got special permission from HBO to make the last episode longer than 1 hour.Maybe they are doing a 1.5-2 hour finale to squeeze PW in?

    That would be great to get a 2hr final but I’m in the camp that doesn’t think PW will be this season.

  164. Skipdutch
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Watson,

    I am pretty much in agreement with you. If I were showrunner, I would probably want to end with PW, for 2 reasons:
    I think PW is a more uplifting ending, a major shock, and some catharsis for what was witnessed in the previous episode. Still, you want to come back next season to see what happens to Tyrion. (Actually, I would prob done the weddings in episodes 6,8, and 10 to spread them out, but that is easy to say since I don’t have to live the story 24/7 and worry about pacing and continuity)
    Budget – we don’t have to keep expensive main cast around for a few episodes next season.

    In the end, I can see both sides though, and would be happy if this season ended prior to PW as well.

  165. Solar
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    Chuck88,

    could not disagree more. why the fuck would thoros want to burn gendry? thoros hangs outlaws. he’s a red priest but he doesn’t burn people alive.

  166. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:02 am | Permalink

    Solar:
    Chuck88,

    could not disagree more. why the fuck would thoros want to burn gendry? thoros hangs outlaws. he’s a red priest but he doesn’t burn people alive.

    That is, in great part, what bothers me about this Mel/Thoros stuff.

    Why would the BwB give Gendry to Melisandre to burn?
    Why?
    Also, Thoros doesn’t seem to be the kind of ‘red priest’ who burns people and releases shadows from his private parts.
    Why would the BwB meet with Melisandre? I doubt that she’ll ‘kidnap’ Gendry, she’s alone and Gendry’s no helpless baby. So I’m guessing the BwB will help her -willingly-.
    How? I’m not sure. And I’m pretty sure D&D will botch it, the same way they botched Robb with the Talisa crap and all of Jon Snow in the past season.
    All in all, it’s all speculation for now. We’ll have to wait and see.

  167. The House Unending
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    Is that Thoros behind Melisandre in the cave at 39 secs?

  168. Phil
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    I don’t consider myself a fundamentalist, and I understand the reason for most of the changes, but from experience last season, we’ve learned that when they botch a storyline, they tend to REALLY botch it (IE the end of Jon’s storyline last season, Dany in Quarth).

    Mel and Thoros doesn’t make any sense. And I really don’t see why everybody thinks that if Edric Storm is cast, viewers wouldn’t feel/understand the conflict to sacrifice him or not He’s mentioned what, once in Clash and then twice in Storm before it’s brought up that he is supposed to be sacrificed. You’re still talking about sacrificing a child. There’s no need to make it Gendry to have the viewer feel something. They’ll get it. It’s practically biblical

    on the other hand it makes perfect sense to have Rob and Cat take Harrenhal becasue in the show it seems to still be under the control of the Mountain at the end of season 2. Robb can take it and give it to Bolton, which will bring the story in line with the book Nice and neat.

  169. Suzaku
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    zzz,

    Pretty sure it’s Daario, who has become a rogueish redhead in the show. In the novels he dual wields a Dothraki arakh and a Myrish stilleto (the hilts of which have been customized as two nude women wrought in gold).

  170. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    Valdred Dethstorm,

    In the scene it looks like Beric is confronting Melisandre. We have no idea if they will give him up. Hell, we have no idea what Melisandre’s story will be. What if Stannis is willing to pay ransom for him? They certainly are not against ransoming innocent people. She may only want his blood. I don’t know how it will work. I’d be lying if I said there wasn’t some apprehension on my part, but I am willing to see how it plays out before criticizing the move. Frankly, if done right, I think this could pack a greater emotional punch than the books ever did with the ‘king’s blood’ story. The TV only audience will certainly be more invested in Gendry.

  171. Zack
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    See, I thought the entire rationale behind casting a Shireen was to move the drama from Edric Storm to Stannis’ own daughter. And then it wouldn’t require a Magical Traveling Mel. However I’m intrigued by the two red priests meeting up. It could be pretty memorable. So we’ll have to wait and see.

  172. Nezzer
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    I’d much rather have a Magical Traveling Mel than Shireen replacing Edric Storm. At least Melisandre borrowing Littlefinger’s teleporting horse doesn’t destroy anyone’s character. If they made Stannis seriously consider burning his own daughter, that could ruin his character.

  173. Suzaku
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    Regarding the masked rider…

    http://i47.tinypic.com/nzhydz.jpg

    Those three scenes all seem to be part of one sequence.

    Could it be Ramsay hunting a fleeing Theon with a bolo, capturing him, and kicking the crap out of him?

    I had earlier theorized that they might transpose the Reek storyline into season 3 with different circumstances, such as Reek/Ramsay playing mindgames with Theon while transporting him to the Dreadfort, eventually helping him escape just so that Ramsay/Reek could hunt him down. I now wonder if this could indeed be the case.

  174. Nezzer
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Suzaku:
    Regarding the masked rider…

    http://i47.tinypic.com/nzhydz.jpg

    Those three scenes all seem to be part of one sequence.

    Could it be Ramsay hunting a fleeing Theon with a bolo, capturing him, and kicking the crap out of him?

    I had earlier theorized that they might transpose the Reek storyline into season 3 with different circumstances, such as Reek/Ramsay playing mindgames with Theon while transporting him to the Dreadfort, eventually helping him escape just so that Ramsay/Reek could hunt him down. I now wonder if this could indeed be the case.

    Yeah, but I think it’s not the same person. The rider’s outer tunic has short sleeves, similar to Roose Bolton’s, while the one the guy kicking Theon is wearing has long sleeves. Also, he looks nothing like Iwan Rheon. He could be the first Reek, though, pretending to be Ramsay for some reason we don’t know yet, while the rider could be the real Ramsay (and that’s why he’s wearing a mask, I’d wager). Anyway, I think it’s safe to say that both men are Bolton men.

  175. Gatehouse Ami
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:18 am | Permalink

    I think Shireen will teach Davos to read.

  176. Grijnwaald
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:35 am | Permalink

    Very good, prefered the last one but this one’s got some cool shit.

  177. Grant
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:37 am | Permalink

    Loooooove !! :)

  178. Zack
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    Nezzer,

    I’m not sure why almost killing an innocent child to whom he is unrelated makes him more sympathetic than almost killing his daughter. They’re equally reprehensible acts…

  179. JamesL
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:46 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    No they’re not, both are horrible acts but one is much worse than the other.

  180. Terror-Filled Knight
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    Because if you pay attention to Stannis in the books he cares GREATLY for his daughter, where as he wouldn’t care so much for Bastards.

    Also, remember this was the man tasked with the last Targs on Dragonstone during Roberts Rebellion.

  181. Nezzer
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:48 am | Permalink

    Zack,

    Do you really think a father killing his own child is just as bad as a man killing a random unrelated one, especially in that society were kinslaying is seen as the worst thing a man can do? It would make it look like Stannis hates his family and wants to extinguish his line, because he killed his brother and now would want to kill his own daughter. But the worst part of it is that Shireen is also his only heir, so it would make him incredibly stupid to consider sacrificing his last relative. That’s why I’m really relieved Shireen is not taking over Edric’s role.

  182. Syrio
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:03 am | Permalink

    I don’t think the changing it to Shireen changes his character all that much. Remember in the books he repeatedly refuses Mellisandre. You guys are making it sound like he was all for sacrificing Edric Storm. He wasn’t. He didn’t want to do it, he hated the fact that the choice was even there. But he told Davos that he was only considering it because the fate of the every person in the world might depend on it. In that situation you have to think even if it was his daughter, he’d still have to consider it. Because if the Others win then every child in the world, including Shireen, would be killed. And in the end he didn’t punish Davos at all for sending Edric away, because deep down he didn’t want to do it..

  183. JamesL
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:05 am | Permalink

    As I said in the pervious post replacing Edric with Gendry is one of smartest and best alterations to the story they have done. There are no real good criticisms against this change except nerdy complaints about how Thoros wouldn’t do that in the book and maybe they are right but this is the TV show. Thoros isn’t a main character there is no reason that can’t change his character a bit so he gives up Gendry.

  184. kurozukin
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    Valdred Dethstorm,

    Why would the BwB give Gendry to Melisandre to burn?

    Why assume that Mel would tell them what she has planned for Gendry? As far as Thoros and co. know, she’s there to pick Gendry up so he can go live with his uncle in a nice safe castle. It’s common knowledge that Stannis has no sons, so maybe they think he plans to legitimize Gendry as his heir.

    I agree that sending Mel to meet up with the Brotherhood is a little weird and fanfic-y and would require her powers to be more reliable than in the books, to say nothing of her having to borrow Littlefinger’s TARDIS from Season 2. I still think it’s a better change than making Stannis so cold-hearted that he would consider sacrificing his own daughter. And it could be interesting to see Mel interact with someone outside Team Dragonstone for a change.

  185. King DBC
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:10 am | Permalink

    Holy f-ing shit. Just gets better and better and makes the wait worse! The direwolf looks so cool. Also the shot of Jorah swinging his sword. Damn, this coulda been the trailer for some high release big budget film!

  186. Mags Giantsbabe
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:19 am | Permalink

    *gobsmacked*

  187. Jamie Newman
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:48 am | Permalink

    Drools on floor!

  188. Hear Me Roar
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:53 am | Permalink

    Effing epic!!!

    Phew … first reaction. How can they manage to make it look better and better every season? Just wow.

  189. Jenny
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:26 am | Permalink

    Daaaaaarioooooooo!!!!
    I’m so turned on.

  190. zod
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:28 am | Permalink

    Anyone else thinks that Charlotte Hope (1:17) might be playing “fake Arya”?

  191. Kroepian
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:30 am | Permalink

    Sky Aero,

    Roslin Frey

  192. caoimay
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:36 am | Permalink

    it can’t be PW because they havent introduced Oberyn or the Dornish backplot, or his interaction with Tyrion. there would be no great drama if some guy shows up after PW in season 4 and says sure ill be your champion and if they cut out that fight I just dont know what to do with the creators I assume the scene is just the official betrothal… blessing?

  193. AdrianAegon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:49 am | Permalink

    Awesome trailer! It’s just spectacular! I can’t wait anymore! 13 days..

  194. JTillyer
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:58 am | Permalink

    What’s everyone’s take on Daario lacking the purple beard and dyed hair? I was waiting to see of they could pull it off and make it look good/non-comical, but I guess they abandoned it.

  195. TH3WICK3D1
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    first off … WOW, that was amazing!

    but that red priest conference gave me a new crazy theory (Huge 5th book Spoiler to follow. seriously you guys)
    regarding Jaime, if Thoros is in cahoots with Mel he probably is looking for an Azor Ahai too right? Jaime goes into the cave in book 5, the valonqar theory makes him you know, kill Nissa Nissa, he could find a red sword too… Hearteater or Oathbreaker itself.

    im a bit crazy too. feel free to disprove this :D

  196. zod
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:20 am | Permalink

    TH3WICK3D1,

    Interesting theory, no doubt.

    But, as much as I like most of the TV show’s deviations from the books, I don’t think we can really consider them as part of the canon.

  197. Silverstormm
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:20 am | Permalink

    Hounded:
    If you can find anything to complain about in this trailer then you are truly the most thrice-damned ungrateful fan ever. Look how fucking lucky we are. Our favourite books are being made into a fucking amazing series by HBO, the greatest TV network to ever exist. D&D are massive fans who love the books as much as we do. I honestly believe no one else alive on this earth could do an adaption as good as this. Thank you D&D, thank you everyone involved in making this show. I am a truly grateful fan and I thank my lucky stars for this show. With the amount of shit on TV and the media in general Game of Thrones is a fucking shining beacon of brilliance. No it may not be able to include everything from the books or do everything little thing exactly how you want it but it is the best possible Game of Thrones adaption there could possibly be. Just think – at one point there was talk of a movie adaption where they wouldn’t kill off Ned. (Grrm said no obviously). But just imagine that! We are truly lucky to have this show. Rant over. One truly grateful fan.

    This.

  198. grabbo
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    Steel_Wind,

    Didn’t one writer speculate that Bran’s storyline from ADWD might actually come to an end in season 4?

  199. TH3WICK3D1
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    zod,

    yeah I know, at first i thought the the same. but then i considered the fact that GRRM divulged a lot of details of his endgame to D&D. So now D&D can add certain parts to maybe strengthen/support the story along the way. but yeah this is probably wishful thinking, Jaime did become my favorite character, from utterly despised.

  200. dobesol
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:30 am | Permalink

    So much good stuff in this trailer…

    Dario looks sexy and dangerous! Can’t wait for a close up.
    Lots of Jon…is the wall weeping when he’s looking up at it? Nice touch. Good god I love that casting. Cave scene!
    New girl at 1:18…appears she being unlaced…by a woman?
    Drogon looks in-fekkin-credible.
    Direwolves!
    SANDOR!
    Others!
    Nightfort?
    Everyone talking about Mel…are we sure about where she is in that scene? Stannis is responsible for her glory, I cant see her away from his side.
    AAAAAAAH!!!! *headexplodingnerdpanda*

    No spoiler editing on mobile, hope I haven’t spoiled.

  201. Marie
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:34 am | Permalink

    Stu,

    It is know

  202. tysnow
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:38 am | Permalink

    Concerning Mel meeting BwB, people you do realize she is a Sorceress, hence supernatural powers. She can see where their hideout is in the flames, probably contact Thoros thru the flames. Concerning traveling across several miles of unfriendly territory (sorceress) cloak of leave me alone or I will shit you. Thoros is bowing his head to her which means she is the power among the priesthood, don’t mess with the best.

    More than likely she is there to take Gendry to Uncle Stannis for his protection, come on, is it that hard to realize how she acquires him.

    Damn! Carice is gorgeous, and provocative, had to get that out.

    This could be the best story change yet.

    That and Daario, damn I am a man and find him attractive, the women will be squealing with delight. I can see D&D expanding his role and taking advantage of the attention the actor and role will garnish.

    Cannot wait for that fight between Jorah, Daario, Grey Worm and Arstan and the enemy, looks to be the best fight sequence yet.

  203. Rui
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:43 am | Permalink

    Shadowcat85,

    Didn’t even remember him. Does that mean that Dany is going to take Meereen this season?

  204. Hounded
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Silverstormm,

    I this your this bro.

  205. Rui
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:52 am | Permalink

    I just saw something in your Tumblr. That guy that everyone think is Daario as the exact same armour that the Unsullied have. Grey Worm?

  206. AdrianAegon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Margaery is not pleasantly suprised by whomever is that guy. I wonder…

  207. Al Swearengen
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:08 am | Permalink

    I like the trailer but hate the choice of music, I mean really you’re going to steal from the Tron Legacy soundtrack for a fantasy show…wtf.

  208. Rambler
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:46 am | Permalink
  209. cabbo
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    That’s not Paul Kaye.

    I hope they don’t give away Stannis’ destination – one of the best bits in that book is Jon seeing the banners.

  210. A Secret Baratheon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    How much would people shit now if Iwan Rheon wasn’t playing Ramsay? XD

  211. ebevan91
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    A Secret Baratheon:
    How much would people shit now if Iwan Rheon wasn’t playing Ramsay? XD

    Who would he possibly be playing if not Ramsay?

  212. Lannister Accountant
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    I don’t know about you all, but I am completely stoked for Season 3!

  213. Suzaku
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Rui:
    I just saw something in your Tumblr. That guy that everyone think is Daario as the exact same armour that the Unsullied have. Grey Worm?

    Nope, it’s Daario. There have been other photos of the actors on set.

    He’s just wearing Unsullied armor in that scene for an unknown reason.

  214. Brian
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    I’m sure they got the rights for the song.

  215. Joshua Taylor
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Silverstormm,

    I agree almost whole heartedly with you. Everyone has their own expectations and personal criteria they want met. Constructive criticism is always a good thing but if anything it’s shown me that whether here or on Westeros or on YouTube that a choice of music for a trailer for example is criticized, I have come to the full realization that there will always be negativity about something and people will say what they feel like saying. And you know what? Let them. I know what I like and that’s all that matters to me.

  216. Jack
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    The best thing I have seen in this trailer is the black thing emerging towards Bran, Jojen, Meera, and Hodor. At 720 HD, that is not a direwolf, that is a black cloak: Sam Tarly. A sure sign this season for an appearance of Coldhands .

  217. Hollyoak
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Silverstormm: This.

    Hear! Hear!

  218. JamesL
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    Nobody seems to have mentioned that Daario is wearing the same outfit the Unsullied wear. Are they going to make him a member of the Unsullied in the show?

    Edit- I just noticed somebody else did mention this a few comments above mine.

  219. MartinJF
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    What if the Red Wedding is NOT episode 9, but episode 7 or 8, and we get the PW at episode 9? Also GRRM is writing episode 7, which could mean anything, but I almost feel like he wants to make the RW perfect since it’s a fan favorite.

  220. Joshua Taylor
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    MartinJF,

    Dude RW is episode 9. Read Kit’s interview. David Nutter is the director. This is confirmed 100%. The episode is called The Rains of Castamere.

  221. Joshua Taylor
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Theory: what if Joff and Margaery are married at the end of the season and the reception feast aka the PW is saved for the season 4 Premiere? They could easily mention in ep 10 that the Red Viper and Mace Tyrell are on their way and has us meet the new characters at the reception in the next season. Dunno. What do you think?

  222. Arnel
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    JP Dayne,

    I mean as long as Mel comes out of the encounter with an unchanged opinion of Stannis I think it’s fine. It does make great sense TV wise. As far as we know Gendry’s storyline line ends once Arya’s is captured by the Hound. If he takes on Edric’s storyline, that keeps the actor involved with the show and saves producers from adding a new character, further confusing fans

  223. Juan Carlos Alonso
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    WHERE ARE MY GIANTS!!?!?!?! WHERE ARE MY GIANTS??!!

  224. Icy Fingers
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:57 am | Permalink

    Woo New Trailer!

    Although am I the only one who finds the ultra modern Daft Punk Tron Legacy soundtrack and Game of Thrones an odd juxtaposition? (Sorry if someone else mentioned it, I skipped to the end to avoid the temptation of show spoilers. Those little black boxes are like big red ‘DO NOT PUSH’ buttons)

    Still, EXCITED!

  225. Zack
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Nezzer: Do you really think a father killing his own child is just as bad as a man killing a random unrelated one

    How long was I asleep that something heinous becomes more acceptable simply on the basis of being more understandable? I get that most parents who haven’t got a screw loose would prefer their children live over someone else’s, but to actually make that choice and kill an innocent person? No. Stannis would be a vile person if he had gone through with giving Edric over. But he didn’t. And neither would he give over Shireen, or Gendry.

  226. ProgGrrl
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    Tron music = awesome

    (oh and so is this “hide spoilers in comments” mechanism y’all have on this here site)

  227. Hollyoak
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    binarys3rf:
    Yes, ASOS is the book with the strongest images, and I was thrilled when I heard the writer Vanessa Taylor talk about how one of D&D’s directives was to increase the cinematic flavor of this season, stronger images and not just words. It’s clear from these trailers they really have changed THEIR game and THE game. I think we’re in for TV history here folks. It’s gonna be awesome.

    That’s interesting. Cool of you to remember that tidbit. It does look spectacularly epic. Personally, I could care one wit about deviations from the book. It’s a TV show, it has to be adapted. Like when Dany’s dragons were stolen. At first I was like, WTF? But then I realized, hey, if you have never read the books, wouldn’t you think: why doesn’t someone just steal those dragons? which makes sense in the TV series.

    A lot of things in the book just have to change. Anyway, I digress. Your observation is one that I think will be a great addition to the show, making it even more epic!

  228. Joshua Taylor
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    I didn’t mind the Tron music, I actually found it fitting for expressing the gravity of the first half of ASOS. What would be amazing if someone remixed everything with the last 2 minutes of Imagine the Fire, an awesome track on The Dark Knight Rises score.

    And the Sept of Baelor looks incredible. Nice nod to Graeco-Roman temples there.

  229. Hollyoak
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Dan:
    I love the Jorah Mormont fight sequence!! He looks very bad ass…

    And the frikking editor timed his sword thrusts with beats from the music! How sick is that?

    And I never use the word “sick.”

  230. MyBFFTheHound
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    I think Coldhands would work much better than Un-Cat as the season finale supernatural thing.

  231. QueenofThorns
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    adragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslaveadragonisnoslave **DIES**

  232. QueenofThorns
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Hi-Fi,

    maybe replacing Jeyne Poole as fake Arya?

  233. BlackTalon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:11 am | Permalink

    Just when I had sworn to myself that I wasn’t going to watch any more teasers and trailers after the first one HBO begins rolling them out one after another. Grrrrrr.

  234. Daemon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Dragons huh? Clear evidence of the PW happening this season.

  235. Daemon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    I can’t possibly be the first one to suggest the girl at 1:18 is playing Kyra’s role, can I? She seems to be missing a tooth or two…

  236. MyBFFTheHound
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Daemon:
    Dragons huh? Clear evidence of the PW happening this season.

    Yes, and the lack of zorses is also a strong indication!

  237. GeekFurious
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    PW has to end as a big cliffhanger moment.

    We see Sansa walking out as everyone else freaks out. Then the doors close behind her. Cut to black with a thump.

    So that is the ONLY reason why I could see them moving it up the season 3 finale. It would be a massive surge for the non-book-reading fandom following the events of the previous episode.

    But doing it would put two of the biggest moments in the book in season 3. In back-to-back episodes. Would it make for one of the greatest endings to a season ever? Hell yes! But it would also take something away from season 4.

  238. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    That looks badass, especially that dracarys bit at the end.

    Looks like ol’ Theon is getting his ass handed to him — literally — as in skinned off his backside and handed to him.

  239. SerKenjiGerrard
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    The Sept of Baelor looks so pristine, the architecture has a “holy” feel, which is quite fitting, I don’t get why some people aren’t feeling it, but to each, his own I guess… Like someone said above, Daario is looking quite sexy, and this coming from another guy. He’s not in any way like the Daario I had pictured from ASOS, which I’m beyond grateful for, the dyed hair and gold tooth would’ve looked horrible on-screen…so this is what a man-crush feels like huh…
    An interaction between Thoros and Mel would do Mel some good honestly, it would be a way to expand her background and give us a deeper sense of appreciation for her religion, given how big an impact she’ll have on Jon’s storyline
    Isaac Hempstead Wright has now truly perfected the art of “startled awakening”, aint no one can do it better, much respect man…
    I can’t stress enough how dangerous and lethal the Unsullied look in that armor, one of the many changes made from the books that work so damn well, I couldn’t picture the Unsullied from the books as being “intimidating”.
    And OH MY FRICKIN’ WORD, that last shot of DROGON…!!! This is Dany’s season y’all…
    This entire trailer was like one long, satisfying orgasm…

  240. sunspear
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Steel_Wind:
    Mursk,

    Given that Melisandre is:

    A)Probably CENTURIES Old;
    B)Undead; and
    C) Able to change her appearance to a degree greater than any of the Faceless Men of Bravos?

    I’m okaywith her negotiating the Riverlands on her own – and you should be, too.Mel is actually the only character in the novels we have met so far who actually IS capable of doing that without difficulty, with the possible exceptions of Jaqen and the Kindly Old Man. She is going to a fixed point (cave) — not a band on the run

    There is no evidence that any of those things are true. And seeing people in a cave doesn’t translate into finding that cave. And it also doesn’t make sense for Mel to meet someone who is an even better candidate for Azor Ahai than Stannis and still be able to follow her character path.

    I’m still not sure that she’s in the same cave, and I hope she isn’t.

  241. Maester Blaster
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Nightfort not Queens Crown but I think you are right about Sam and Gilly coming out of the well. Looked just like the scene in the book.

  242. Hi-Fi
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    I am indeed beginning to consider this option. Maybe they want “fake Arya” to be present in Sansa’s wedding to Tyrion? Maybe the want to display her? Does that make any sense?

  243. jasonw
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    the problem with the PW being at the end of this season, it really leaves no KL story for next season. The Red Viper comes before Joffery’s wedding, he has not been cast. I just dont think you could do 10 episodes of Tyrion’s trial. One for the trial another for the trial by combat haha that still leaves 8, we all know what the last one would be. PW i say episode 5 next season

  244. Maester Blaster
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Syrio: I’m more convinced that PW is in.

    Vindication! I was downvoted to oblivion on reddit for theorizing PW was in this season. I know it’s a little past the halfway point in the books but It will make a great surprise ending to ep 10 when all the show watchers are bummed and convinced Joff is all victorious after the RW. Pigeon pie, Cersei screams, viewers rejoice.

  245. Darquemode
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    GeekFurious,

    Yeah, that was what I meant by a fade-to-black finale scene I mentioned earlier…. I can see that scene with Joff and Margery walking out as a final scene, albeit not nearly as powerful as Mysha!” Maybe just the KL arc finale…. and then they cut to Yunkai?

    I think that scene as an arc finale could work (maybe not an episode final scene), but I would still prefer an episode or two of build up including the arrival of certain characters like in the book.

  246. Hassan Madkour
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    I love how it starts off dark, making us think it’s the night sky, then we see the ripples and drogon flying next to the ship in daylight. kind of a way to say ” there’s darkness until the khaleesi comes”

  247. Ren Snow
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    And so the dragonfly effect continues. If Gendry is going to take Edric Storm’s place in the storyline, then who will eventually save Brienne from Biter or whatever they cook up when Brienne takes on her Sansa search

    Luana:
    So is this new Myranda character played by Charlotte Hope supposed to be Taena?

    I don’t think so. Look at her distressed look.

  248. Isabella
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Regarding whether a certain event happens at the end of S3 or the beginning of S4:

    Although I agree that Joffrey’s death would make a great end to the season containing the RW, I really hope they save the PW for S4.
    1) I want them to devote a lot of time to it, if not an entire episode, at least the better part of an episode. In the book, it’s two long and awesome chapters. I want every bit to be filmed. (Arguably 3 chapters, because that day starts with a Tyrion chapter where he’s meeting Shae and thinking a lot about their relationship.) First you’ve got Sansa’s chapter about the wedding breakfast and ceremony. A lot of cool and important stuff happens in that chapter, particularly Tyrion and Joffrey’s interactions, Tyrion realizing Joffrey sent the assassin after Bran and letting Joffrey know. Then you’ve got Tyrion’s chapter about the wedding feast, which is one of my favorite chapters in the series. All the minutia about the extravagance of the wedding is hilarious. And there should be lots of character interacions where people are circulating at the wedding around the high table (which viewers will then replay and freeze to try to pinpoint the moment Joffrey’s wine gets poisoned). And then the wonderful end:)
    2) I think it’s important that Oberyn Martel arrive before and is present at the wedding.
    - He and Tyrion strike up sort of a friendship before the wedding. That will be fun to watch and will lend hope and dramatic weight to Tyrion’s trial (which will probably be his main storyline for much of S4), having one of the judges be a guy he’s been friendly with.
    - Given the whole “poison is a Dornishman’s weapon” thing, Oberyn will be a possible suspect, providing interesting narrative possibilities. During Tyrion’s trial, there’d be cool irony or tension if the judge in whom Tyrion has more hope is also the top alternate suspect. And, depending on how long they drag out the who-killed-Joffrey mystery, Oberyn could be a suspect as far as the audience is concerned.

  249. WheelofIceandFire
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Ren Snow,

    Well Davos does save Edric so he could easily just save Gendry and take him somewhere to ‘set him free’. He sends Edric to the free cities but they could easily just have him take Gendry somewhere in Westeros. Gendry/Joe Dempsie could then have his own little story for the next few seasons where he is basically alone in Westeros until he meets Brienne.

  250. MyBFFTheHound
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Ren Snow:
    And so the dragonfly effect continues. If Gendry is going to take Edric Storm’s place in the storyline, then who will eventually save Brienne from Biter or whatever they cook up when Brienne takes on her Sansa search

    Gendry can do that. There’s no reason he HAS to go to Essos from Dragonstone. He can ask Davos to get him back to the BwB

  251. mister frey
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    A quick correction: As Omar would say, “Indeed,” Omar never once swore in the Wire. Man’s got to have a code.

  252. OhDanyBoy
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    Maester Blaster: Vindication!I was downvoted to oblivion on reddit for theorizing PW was in this season.I know it’s a little past the halfway point in the books but It will make a great surprise ending to ep 10 when all the show watchers are bummed and convinced Joff is all victorious after the RW.Pigeon pie, Cersei screams, viewers rejoice.

    It doesn’t happen “a little past the halfway point.” It happens in Chapter 61 of 82 – 75% of the way through, and a full 10 chapters after the widely reported Red Wedding in episode 9.

    It’s not happening in S3.

  253. Juego de tronos
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Spectacular!

  254. Westvista
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Wolves, Dragons and a Bear oh my

  255. Maester Blaster
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    If Melmeets the Brotherhood this season does this mean she knows Arya is alive and what she looks like? How does this impact the fake Arya, Ramsey, Mance, Theon story in aDwD?

    Also I don’t see why the Red Viper HAS to be at the PW. He could be introduced at the start of S4, get drafted as a judge, and volunteer as a champion to get a crack at the Mountain. I know it doesn’t give him much screen time and that will enrage the Viper fans but his arc will neatly set up the Dornish back story so they can introduce Doran et all in S5. Let me use this opportunity to say I don’t absolutely know the PW will be in this season, it’s not like I have D&D’s number to ask, it just makes sense to me.

  256. AryaisAwesome
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Maester Blaster,

    Beric and Thoros could hide Arya from Mel to keep her safe. Arya isnt in that shot of Mel meeting with them so it could just be a scene between those three and Arya could be hiding somewhere and listening in. Arya could then find Gendry and tell him that Mel wants to take him and he could then escape. Hell, they could escape together and then get attacked by the Hound who knocks out Gendry and kidnaps Arya? There is a shot of the Hound fighting someone in daylight and that could be Gendry?

  257. Skipdutch
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    jasonw,

    So, What is Jamie doing exactly for the first 5 episodes of Season 4 (and last 3 of season 3), since after S3 Ep7 “the Bear and Maiden Faire”, he books it straight for KL and doesn’t arrive until after the PW?

    Between Jamie and Tyrion, there is plenty of KL stuff for Season 4, and they can even grab some stuff from ADWD.
    Ep1) Jamie arrives, meets with Cersei finds out about Joffrey and Tyrion. Brienne goes to jail for Renly’s death. Tyrion has small scene talking to Pod/Varys in cell.
    E2 ) Tyrion gets visit from Red Viper, they have a meet and greet similar to their book one, although obviously tone is different as Tyrion is in Jail. Viper lets Tyrion know he is a judge, starts to ask about his sister’s death.
    E3 ) Tyrion’s first court day. he gets betrayed alot. Jamie tries to adjust, meets with Tywin and is given his sword.
    E4) Jamie takes up mantle as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, refusing Tywins offer to release him from duty.
    E5) Visit from Red Viper, offers to represent him in trial by combat if he tells him what really happened to his sister. Jamie convinces Loras of Brienne’s innocence.
    E6) Epic Trial by Combat
    E7) Jamie frees Brienne, give her his sword, and tells her to fulfill oath to catlyn, find Sansa and Arya and return them safely home.
    E8) Jamie releases Tyrion, reveals true story about Tyrion’s wife, Tyrion seeks revenge.
    E9) Tyrion on the run, sees bounty placed on his head. Perhaps red herring as a dwarf murdered for bounty is brought to Cersei, but audience and Cersei realize it is the wrong dwarf.
    E10 ) Tyrion leaves on a boat across the narrow sea. Looking back ruefully.

    And thats pretty much directly from the book, with no added scenes (but at least one severely altered one). You know D&D are gonna add some Roz stuff too ;)

  258. Arnel
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind,

    I feel that regarding Bran, D&D will probably make a whole story line for his adventure to Bloodraven. It might come off cheesy most like, but prolonging his story is probably the safest route to go. There isn’t much to go one with Bran so if changes are made I wouldn’t mind too much, as long in the end he ends up where he needs to be.

  259. nightwolf
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Ghost and Summer! I hope we get to see Nymeria this season.

  260. Al Swearengen
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Brian,

    Rights aren’t the issue it’s just such a bizarre choice for a fantasy show, I don’t normally think of Daft Punk when I envision a world that features dragons and wights.

  261. jasonw
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Skipdutch,

    The Jamie stuff i have no idea, but the problem i see is thoses are just one scene. I think Tyrion killing, well you know is a great way to end season 4. I think having the begining of season 4 be that it appears the Lannisters won and the PW in the middle would throw the norman big ep 9 thing for a loop.

  262. Perkins
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    dude man guy…! awesome!

  263. grabbo
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Skipdutch,

    That’s more or less how I would imagine it. The only problem is that if the Martells are not present at Joffrey’s wedding, it would be taken kind of as an insult, wouldn’t it?

  264. lost northern
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    can someone tell me why mormont says ”i forbid you to die” ???

  265. zod
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    lost northern,

    That’s probably his last words to Sam.

  266. bigswerg
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    i cant wait…………2 weeks!

  267. Skipdutch
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    grabbo,
    I would imagine they would be there in S3, just not directly introduced with speaking parts (think Jaquen/Biter/Rorge, or the stand in Beric, who did speak but was recast.) Perhaps a nod in there direction with some aside comments by Cersei this season would suffice. Same is true for Mace. If they want to show a walk down the aisle, all you need is a back double.
    It happens in the book to, remember Mance was at the feast for Robert B in Winterfell, he was even the entertainment I think. I’ve only read the books once, some time ago, so its a bit hazy

  268. TrappingsOfPower
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think it’s even fair to call this just a television show anymore. HBO is the G.O.A.T.

  269. Stone Cold BASTARD
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    Watson,

    Thank you for that great post.

    I’m so sick and tired of reading all of the online hostility towards the possibility of the PW being included this season. The vitriol and condescension towards those who consider that the PW may happen this season has been insane.

    Yes, tons of stuff happens after the PW and there are another two published books worth of material.

    So, FU PW haters in Season 3! FU!

  270. Markus
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    There is no reason to rush things, why do people want to rush the event when it would be done at a much better quality in season 4? More time, more setup, more characters involved and so on.

    People are just impatient, you dont really need to have it all now, there is plenty happening already in season 3.

  271. Dan
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    I think that Burn Gorman will be playing Dirk of the Night’s Watch.

  272. Stone Cold BASTARD
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Markus,

    No, it’s not a matter of being “impatient” and wanting to “rush things”.

    Again, more of the patronizing b.s.

    George R.R. Martin is leaving the U.S. prior to the airing of Episode 9, as he does not want to be subjected to non-book-reading fan vitriol, scorn, harassment, possible threats etc. It makes perfect sense to close the season with some hope and for something good to happen, following the absolute horror and epically depressing RW.

    There were so many changes in S2 and alterations from A Clash with Kings that more changes should be expected.

  273. Steel_Wind
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    sunspear: There is no evidence that any of those things are true. And seeing people in a cave doesn’t translate into finding that cave. And it also doesn’t make sense for Mel to meet someone who is an even better candidate for Azor Ahai than Stannis and still be able to follow her character path.

    I’m still not sure that she’s in the same cave, and I hope she isn’t.

    Put bluntly, you are wrong.

    You need to read Melisandre’s POV chapter in ADwD again. The evidence is overwhelming as to B, likely with respect to A, and beyond any doubt at all with respect to C. (ADwD’s entire northern plotline concerns her ability to cast a glamour spell to change the appearance of the target).

  274. Steel_Wind
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Arnel:
    Steel_Wind,

    I feel that regarding Bran, D&D will probably make a whole story line for his adventure to Bloodraven. It might come off cheesy most like, but prolonging his story is probably the safest route to go. There isn’t much to go one with Bran so if changes are made I wouldn’t mind too much, as long in the end he ends up where he needs to be.

    I am in agreement. Any book fundamentalism I have erodes greatly after ASoS is complete. Frankly, at that point? GRRM’s text needs substantial revision to present a coherent tale – as the author does a poor job of it.

    Moreover, GRRM does not have a cast of actors under contract that he needs to keep busy. D&D have different commercial realities to contend with.

    Don’t get me wrong: A Storm of Swords is my favourite novel of all time. I wouldn’t change a thing in it except where absolutely required. But after that point — all bets are off and D&D can and MUST take steps to alter, edit and improve the tale for viewers, imo.

  275. Steel_Wind
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    grabbo:
    Steel_Wind,

    Didn’t one writer speculate that Bran’s storyline from ADWD might actually come to an end in season 4?

    I have no idea if that was ever mentioned. I somehow doubt it, unless D&D and GRRM have a plan for Bran that would permit his tale to co-exist contemporaneously during the course of Season 5 and 6 in a manner that makes sense, given the other events that take place during that time. Entirely doable, but it’s still challenging to do well and preserve the grim and gritty feel to the show.

    Whatever the case, it certainly seems to me that the relatively easy go of things that the writers on the show have had in adapting the novels up to now — and to the end of season 4, will change dramatically at that point. Adapting A Feast for Crows, A Dance with Dragons and those elements of The Winds of Winter they know about (but which we, as readers, are not yet privy) is clearly a much more difficult task. Not only will D&D need to make some challenging cuts, but they are probably going to have to make up entirely new plot threads, if only to keep some of their actors busy. D&D face commercial pressures and realities that GRRM does not have to contend with.

    I really don’t envy them that task. If they pull it off very well, I will not only be impressed — frankly, I will be outright surprised.

  276. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold BASTARD:
    Markus,

    No, it’s not a matter of being “impatient” and wanting to “rush things”.

    Again, more of the patronizing b.s.

    George R.R. Martin is leaving the U.S. prior to the airing of Episode 9, as he does not want to be subjected to non-book-reading fan vitriol, scorn, harassment, possible threats etc. It makes perfect sense to close the season with some hope and for something good to happen, following the absolute horror and epically depressing RW.

    Very briefly on this. I still don’t think the PW happens this year. Too much, too quickly (perhaps the wedding but not the feast, given what we’ve seen in previews). Could it happen? Sure. Ending on Cersei screaming for Tyrion’s head is an interesting way to “fade to black,” but there are other good ways to accomplish that as well – undead Cat, “Mysha,” Stannis in the North, Coldhands.

    But on the whole “vitroil and scorn” thing, remember, once again: in Season 1, they killed the main fucking character. And the show became more popular. So I have a very hard time thinking D&D are going to “give the audience hope” because we’ve got to have a happy-joy-joy GoT.

  277. Lex
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Okay, that was probably the best GOT trailer ever.

  278. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Nice to see the tradition of arguing about the PW being in S3 has continued into yet another thread. It’s not as though it hasn’t been beaten to death already anyway.

  279. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold BASTARD:
    Watson,

    Thank you for that great post.

    I’m so sick and tired of reading all of the online hostility towards the possibility of the PW being included this season. The vitriol and condescension towards those who consider that the PW may happen this season has been insane.

    Yes, tons of stuff happens after the PW and there are another two published books worth of material.

    So, FU PW haters in Season 3! FU!

    *crickets*

  280. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    If that scene with Cersei/QOT/Joff/Margaery is from the PW then there sure as hell aren’t many guests. Which would make sense considering the bride’s own father isn’t even there.

  281. Joshua Taylor
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    For the PW debate: I think people are blowing things out of proportion here, some taking it very personal. My issue with having the PW immediately after the Red Wedding its imlact won’t be felt a long in the show as it was for us. Then again if the finale is an hour and half the the PW could work. As for the Red Viper, a line could be said informing us he would be arriving late. Mace Tyrell could easily appear in the crowd come season 4 episode 1.

    Peace.

  282. Syrio
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Very briefly on this. I still don’t think the PW happens this year. Too much, too quickly (perhaps the wedding but not the feast, given what we’ve seen in previews). Could it happen? Sure. Ending on Cersei screaming for Tyrion’s head is an interesting way to “fade to black,” but there are other good ways to accomplish that as well – undead Cat, “Mysha,” Stannis in the North, Coldhands.

    But on the whole “vitroil and scorn” thing, remember, once again: in Season 1, they killed the main fucking character.And the show became more popular. So I have a very hard time thinking D&D are going to “give the audience hope” because we’ve got to have a happy-joy-joy GoT.

    Yeah, but season 1 ends on a lot of hope. Robb is proclaimed King in the North, Dany hatches dragons, Arya escapes KL, Jon is being groomed for leadership and heads for adventure north of the Wall.

    The RW as the event that viewers carry with them for a season without any hope given them will be a bitter pill to swallow. Dany conquering Yunkai give a little bit of optimism, but even that doesn’t do much for the majority fo the fanbase who are Stark supporters.

  283. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Syrio: Yeah, but season 1 ends on a lot of hope.Robb is proclaimed King in the North, Dany hatches dragons, Arya escapes KL, Jon is being groomed for leadership and heads for adventure north of the Wall.

    The RW as the event that viewers carry with them for a season without any hope given them will be a bitter pill to swallow.Dany conquering Yunkai give a little bit of optimism, but even that doesn’t do much for the majority fo the fanbase who are Stark supporters.

    What can I say?
    After D&D botched Robb’s storyline, I doubt most viewers would care about him getting killed. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the impression S2 left on most non-readers was “I don’t care about my vows or the Frey girl, I’m marrying this girl I just met. Suck it up, mother, my father’s dead and you betrayed me releasing the Kingslayer anyway. *bangs Talisa* ”
    If anything, I’ll feel sad over Catelyn getting killed. Robb? Not so much.

  284. Jack Slap
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    KingJon,

    Maybe they will show RW and PW at the same time so you feel better after seeing bad deaths then get to see a good death!

  285. zod
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Jack Slap,

    Lessening the impact of the RW is probably the last thing they want.

  286. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Jack Slap:
    KingJon,

    Maybe they will show RW and PW at the same time so you feel better after seeing bad deaths then get to see a good death!

    That would be pretty lame, and would tarnish the effect of the RW.

  287. Zack
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    It’s not happening. They’re not going to wreck the series’ legacy for the immediate gratification of a certain segment. Rushing it would hurt the show. Not to say that every decision they’ve made has been perfect, but they’ve got common sense. Lot of crow eating coming for the episode 30 credit roll.

  288. Nezzer
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

    Valdred Dethstorm: What can I say?
    After D&D botched Robb’s storyline, I doubt most viewers would care about him getting killed. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the impression S2 left on most non-readers was “I don’t care about my vows or the Frey girl, I’m marrying this girl I just met. Suck it up, mother, my father’s dead and you betrayed me releasing the Kingslayer anyway. *bangs Talisa* ”
    If anything, I’ll feel sad over Catelyn getting killed. Robb? Not so much.

    From what I’ve seen, Robb is still one of the favorites of the non-readers. He’s still behind Jon, Dany and Tyrion, but I am sure he is still their favorite warring faction leader.

  289. Slynt
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    KingJon:
    Skipdutch,

    Yes I know. But you must remember this is a TV adaption. Having the RW and the PW in the same season would be such a waste. Sure there are other things they can play up, but I don’t see it. I believe the PW will be early next season, and Tyrion’s escape will be in episode 9.

    And imagine how they can play up, in season 4, that there’s another wedding coming and people will be scared witless after seeing the wedding in season 3 hahaha :)

  290. Jaison Biagini
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    i know this seems like a petty complaint but am i alone in thinking the are cramming far too much of book 3 into 10 episodes???

  291. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Syrio: Yeah, but season 1 ends on a lot of hope.Robb is proclaimed King in the North, Dany hatches dragons, Arya escapes KL, Jon is being groomed for leadership and heads for adventure north of the Wall.

    The RW as the event that viewers carry with them for a season without any hope given them will be a bitter pill to swallow.Dany conquering Yunkai give a little bit of optimism, but even that doesn’t do much for the majority fo the fanbase who are Stark supporters.

    There’s a lot of fear, there, though. Arya is in grave danger. Jon is headed north of the wall to find out what the hell happened to the rangers and confront a bunch of undead beings. Robb is proclaimed King in the North in a scene that feels very unsettling and worrying for Robb, and Cat. Sansa is shown the head of her father, and her champion at that given moment is a guy with half his face burned off.

    Season 2 ends similarly with quite a few grim moments. Danys gets her dragons back (yay!), Bran et al say goodbye to Winterfell and Maester Luwin (gut-wrenching), Arya heads off to places unknown (yay? sort of?), Stannis is fulminating about his losses and being shown something in a fire (yay? boo? um, wtf?), Davos Seaworth is….?????, Tyrion is left powerless and scarred with Pycelle laughing at him (boo, FU Pycelle!), and Tywin is in power, Joffrey is still the king (boo), is not marrying Sansa (yay!) but she’s still trapped in KL (boooo!). Oh, and there’s a goddamned army of the undead advancing on the scrappiest, most likeable members of the cast (along with a guy who can’t run 4 feet).

    Thinking of it similarly, say we get RW in Ep 9. Then we get Dany’s “Mysha” moment (similarly hopeful as end Season 1). Bran and his party have some hope/wonder/fear for what awaits them further north. Jon repels the Wildings(?), kills Ygritte(?) or is saved by Stannis (?) — all hopeful outcomes of a sort. Arya leaves the Hound to die and gives a Braavosi a coin and says “Valar Morgolis,” and heads to the next chapter of her life. Jaime successfully brings Brienne to King’s Landing. Undead Cat gives you the last-second WTF moment like the dragons/Three Blasts moments (if filmed).

    To me that creates a number of moments to look to for the next season, similar to the end of Season 1/2. This is a sophisticated viewership and not one to riot just because someone good-looking is offed. As I said, I’m ok with PW happening, but I expect it will not. And Season 3 will be a bit of a grim ending, but this is not Punky Brewster, y’know?

  292. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Also I thought Robb’s storyline worked very well in Season 2. People do things, many, many things that are selfish or out of an emotional need. Robb’s desires are not stupid, and they grow from a place of finding/wanting emotional and physical connection when all his has is his worrying mother, a bunch of guys with beards, and a guy who wants to flay all the prisoners. I don’t want to go back to the whole thing about how it was “so much better in the book because he was acting with honor” nonsense, but really, the end result was the same. He makes a very personal decision that on some level he cannot be blamed for – but for the fact that he’s the king of these men, and it will turn out, well…

    That’s all very normal and very human. He’s not a monk.

  293. Zack
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Jaison Biagini,

    Books of roughly the same length or longer have been adapted into 2-3 hour films.

    That we’re getting somewhere between 10-20 hours for it should be pretty gratifying.

  294. Alen
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    I hope the Gendry = Edric theory comes true. It would be a really smart move because the audience already knows him (and are somewhat emotionally invested in that character already), and there’s already a lot of new characters in S3 (reducing that number while not damaging the storyline certainly helps). Yeah, it would be a big change from the books but that doesn’t really matter since it would make for better television.

  295. Jack Slap
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Or maybe Melisandre lies to BwB and says they need Gendry for some other reason.. Like to prove that Joffrey is not the real king etc.. Then when she has him back on Dragonstone they try to kill him and Davos sets him free!

  296. Daemon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    I think some of the condescending comments are less about people who think the PW is happening this season, and more about the fact that some people use every. fucking. thread. to promote that idea or take any piece of news/clip/interview to use as “proof” that it’s happening. Obviously it could happen, but “wow did anyone else see the gown is green?? It’s definitely happening this season!” is getting kinda annoying honestly.

  297. El Beto
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    For the readers, this shows us every scene we are expecting to see… it’s a trailer full of spoilers

  298. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Daemon,

    Precisely this.

  299. El Beto
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    Sky Aero: 1.18 Who’s the girl?

    The girl is Irri, handmaiden to Daenerys, and also her paramour

    At least I think it’s her

  300. occasional lurker
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    [delurks] On the ‘will it be’ in question…

    I’m finding it a bit odd that people see the PW as a possible uplifting ending. OK, Joffrey dies, but Tyrion is immediately accused. When I read SoS, I didn’t find Joff’s dead at all a happy counter to the RW, because I instantly started worrying for Tyrion (I also found Joffrey’s death pretty horrific, for all he’s a murderous sadistic bastard, but I acknowledge your mileage may vary on that one…) Since Tyrion is such a fanfavourite, unless they did a huge job of complicating his character this season, wouldn’t show-watchers who don’t know the books feel the same? I suppose they could cut the scene right after Joff’s death, but he’s already pointing at Tyrion as he dies. That’s pretty foreboding, I reckon.

    I recognise that people want something to set against the RW, but for me I’d look to more uncomplicated highs elsewhere in the story, like Dany’s Mhysa moment, or Davos saving Edric(Gendry?!) etc, to do that

  301. Valdred Dethstorm
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber:
    Also I thought Robb’s storyline worked very well in Season 2. People do things, many, many things that are selfish or out of an emotional need. Robb’s desires are not stupid, and they grow from a place of finding/wanting emotional and physical connection when all his has is his worrying mother, a bunch of guys with beards, and a guy who wants to flay all the prisoners. I don’t want to go back to the whole thing about how it was “so much better in the book because he was acting with honor” nonsense, but really, the end result was the same. He makes a very personal decision that on some level he cannot be blamed for – but for the fact that he’s the king of these men, and it will turn out, well…

    That’s all very normal and very human. He’s not a monk.

    I’m not a book purist, but it was pretty stupid for me.
    In the book was kinda justified, since there was a raven with news about what happened in Winterfell (why D&D thought it would be better to omit/delay that bit is beyond me), so it’s understandable that he was full of grief.
    I know he’s not a monk. But such an excuse doesn’t work very well. “So I’m a horny young guy, and since I have no one but a sad mother and a bunch of guys with beards then f*ck this vow, right?”. He -can- be blamed for it. His actions will have dire consequences.
    Also, he’ll look like a total hypocrite when Karstark’s head rolls. A grieving father who took an impulsive decision deserves to be punished, but I don’t. Te-hee..

    If anything, he could’ve banged Talisa. But marrying her was an idiot move.

    Just my two cents. I’m not trying to start a discussion.

  302. Monstadon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    1:07 Mormont about to be stabbed in the back? By that guy from the books standing behind him, I forget his name. But I remember he was one of the ones who kills him.

  303. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Valdred Dethstorm,

    In the book was kinda justified, since there was a raven with news about what happened in Winterfell (why D&D thought it would be better to omit/delay that bit is beyond me), so it’s understandable that he was full of grief.

    That part of the argument I don’t buy at all. He’s full of grief, so, let’s go chase some tail! Uhh…

    I know he’s not a monk. But such an excuse doesn’t work very well. “So I’m a horny young guy, and since I have no one but a sad mother and a bunch of guys with beards then f*ck this vow, right?”. He -can- be blamed for it. His actions will have dire consequences.

    On that, I agree COMPLETELY. I’m merely saying he’s human, and not necessarily able to always make the right move. This, for whatever reason – for “honor” or for love, was a disastrous decision that will fully come back around. He’s in the awful position of having to be perfect or near-perfect against almost insurmountable odds (100,000+ Lannister men, Stannis’ army, dragons, Walder Frey being pissed about Matlock getting cancelled). And it for that reason helps underline so much more that Dany Targaryen is more suited for this given her decision to foresake her beloved Khal Drogo in the House of the Undying.

  304. Stone Cold BASTARD
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Again, think of the reaction from the non-book-reading masses after the horror of the RW. Martin has even stated that he may temporarily leave the U.S. prior to that episode airing, so he won’t have to deal with vitriol, scorn, harassment etc.

    Sure, Ned’s death was awful and ratings increased in S2, but the RW is on a whole new level of horror.

    Also, Jack Gleeson has said that he is quitting acting and going back to school.

  305. Stone Cold BASTARD
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Valdred Dethstorm,

    Haywood Jablowme?

  306. Virtus
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    El Beto: The girl is Irri, handmaiden to Daenerys, and also her paramour

    At least I think it’s her

    Except that Irri was killed off in Season 2.

  307. czarnian
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Wow….just wow. This trailer marks the moment in history when a TV-show for real crossed the border into high budget movie territory.

  308. Skipdutch
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Valdred Dethstorm: I’m not a book purist, but it was pretty stupid for me.
    In the book was kinda justified, since there was a raven with news about what happened in Winterfell (why D&D thought it would be better to omit/delay that bit is beyond me), so it’s understandable that he was full of grief.
    I know he’s not a monk. But such an excuse doesn’t work very well. “So I’m a horny young guy, and since I have no one but a sad mother and a bunch of guys with beards then f*ck this vow, right?”. He -can- be blamed for it. His actions will have dire consequences.

    I don’t disagree that the scope of suffering/frustration of Robb was lessened by the timing, but he was still grieving the loss of his ancestral home, worried about his brothers, and had been betrayed by his mother.

    Also, he’ll look like a total hypocrite when Karstark’s head rolls. A grieving father who took an impulsive decision deserves to be punished, but I don’t. Te-hee..

    How is that more hypocritical than what happened in the book. A grieving brother who took an impulsive decision.

    If anything, he could’ve banged Talisa. But marrying her was an idiot move.

    Well, noble idiot move. Robb pulled a Stark.

    Just my two cents. I’m not trying to start a discussion.

    I hope you mean not trying to start an argument :) Discussions are good things.

  309. Stone Cold BASTARD
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Daemon,

    So what if people want to speculate if the PW will be in S3. If you don’t like what’s being discussed in the comment threads, don’t read them.

  310. ATBoz
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold BASTARD,

    Condescension in this case is hard to avoid because the theory that PW will be in S3 makes absolutely no sense and is quite dumb. The red wedding is set to occur in episode 9 of 10..think this through, people. C’mon.

  311. The Lord of Light
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Anguissette1979,

    It’s actually Stannis saying the line “We do not choose our destiny. We must do our duty, no? Great or small, we must do our duty.”

  312. Friend of Fire
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Hounded:
    If you can find anything to complain about in this trailer then you are truly the most thrice-damned ungrateful fan ever. Look how fucking lucky we are. Our favourite books are being made into a fucking amazing series by HBO, the greatest TV network to ever exist. D&D are massive fans who love the books as much as we do. I honestly believe no one else alive on this earth could do an adaption as good as this. Thank you D&D, thank you everyone involved in making this show. I am a truly grateful fan and I thank my lucky stars for this show. With the amount of shit on TV and the media in general Game of Thrones is a fucking shining beacon of brilliance. No it may not be able to include everything from the books or do everything little thing exactly how you want it but it is the best possible Game of Thrones adaption there could possibly be. Just think – at one point there was talk of a movie adaption where they wouldn’t kill off Ned. (Grrm said no obviously). But just imagine that! We are truly lucky to have this show. Rant over. One truly grateful fan.

    there are no words in the english language that are capable of expressing how much i agree with your statement . So ditto

  313. TrappingsOfPower
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    To the complainers about Robb Stark of the tv version compared to th book, please know that every single show only watcher will be devasted after the RW. They all think he is future of the Stark family.

  314. Yellow Dog
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Just finished re-reading ASOS, and am hoping to see on screen the most moving single paragraph in the whole series: Grey Worm explaining to Dany why he is keeping his slave name.

    (paraphrase)

    “The name this one was born with was an unlucky name. It was the name this one had when he became a slave. But Grey Worm is a lucky name, because it is the name this one drew on the day Danaerys Stormborn set him free.”
    I might be able to keep from sobbing during a certain episode, but not during this scene.

  315. Jacarb
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    I could very much see the Gendry/Edric merger being smart TV making. My one possible hang-up is that Gendry never learned he was Robert’s son. There were a lot of hints here and there, and maybe he had his suspicions, but I always found one of his better qualities to be that he didn’t know or care to learn.

    As for the bit with Joffrey and Margaery, well, there’s going to be a lot of that. The Tyrells are going to be a huge part of the King’s Landing story as they jockey for influence. It looks to me from that brief shot that it’s the moment Cersei realizes Margaery is a rival, which could really be any number of new or expanded scenes. Or the PW, who knows. Engaged couples are often seen together, you know.

    I’m interested to see how they introduce Daario, as that would appear to be him fighting Grey Worm (a test? an actual fight? him just being a cocksure jackass?). The books’ take on Slaver’s Bay, particularly in how new players were introduced, felt very awkwardly paced to me. I just kinda gave up on keeping track of all the various sellswords and Kgrzax mo Consonants, or trying to figure out who was going to be important. I’ll be very open to the kinds of changes that will be necessary to streamline that part of the plot for TV.

    Completely agree with everyone that this is a fantastic trailer, and it really does look like a movie. I think it’s about time to freeze myself for two weeks to avoid the wait.

  316. Mister Stark
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    I think the best ending of the season would be just what seems a random shot of some poor schmuck being taken before some strange hooded figure and then the voice pronounces the sentence, and the figure pulls off the hood and it is Undead Cat. Now that would throw gasoline on the fire for those who’ve not read the books. The collective “WTF would be delicious.

  317. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Mister Stark,

    That is the best ending….for season 4.

  318. The Stannis Way
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    PW isn’t going to be in season 3. The fact that about 40% of the comments on every thread are people suggesting it is in is growing exceedingly tiresome. Give it a rest already.

  319. bardgal
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    FiveStar,
    I think that’s Nymeria growling. It’s too light to be Greywind, Summer, or Shaggydog.

  320. bardgal
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    bardgal,

    Brian,

    If M&J are walking OUT of the Great Sept, they had to first walk IN, for a reason. Joffrey is dressed differently than when he’s escorting Sansa.

    To me this is obvious.

    I just don’t understand the hangups of people against the PW being this season, when it’s the perfect way to end the KL arch. It’s as if everyone has completely forgotten that the rest of ASOS is jam-packed with ZOMFG moments, along with the fact we’ll see some of the events from AFFC & ADWD that all happen simultaneously with the last 1/3 of ASOS, in season 4.

  321. ebevan91
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    bardgal:
    FiveStar,
    I think that’s Nymeria growling. It’s too light to be Greywind, Summer, or Shaggydog.

    That’s what I’m thinking.

  322. zod
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:25 pm | Permalink
  323. TheWoodOfTheMorning
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Wow. my D is very H. Major Throner.

  324. Joshua Taylor
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    bardgal,

    I don’t want the PW to happen in season 3 because i’m some condescending douchebag. I want the RW to retain its maximum impact. I want the viewer to be as angry with the story as we were. I want them to mourn. I want them to rage at the Lannister gloating, I want them to feel the injustice of it all. I want the viewer to weep with Sansa. I want them to find hope in Dany’s victory, in Davos rescuing Gendry (???), to see the pieces begin to come together. To have the PW 50-70 minutes later will rob the RW of its power in my opinion. “Let’s kill Joffrey at the end of the season! But kill Robb first! Fuck you non-reader!”

  325. bardgal
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Hounded:
    If you can find anything to complain about in this trailer then you are truly the most thrice-damned ungrateful fan ever. Look how fucking lucky we are. Our favourite books are being made into a fucking amazing series by HBO, the greatest TV network to ever exist. D&D are massive fans who love the books as much as we do. I honestly believe no one else alive on this earth could do an adaption as good as this. Thank you D&D, thank you everyone involved in making this show. I am a truly grateful fan and I thank my lucky stars for this show. With the amount of shit on TV and the media in general Game of Thrones is a fucking shining beacon of brilliance. No it may not be able to include everything from the books or do everything little thing exactly how you want it but it is the best possible Game of Thrones adaption there could possibly be. Just think – at one point there was talk of a movie adaption where they wouldn’t kill off Ned. (Grrm said no obviously). But just imagine that! We are truly lucky to have this show. Rant over. One truly grateful fan.

    THIS X ∞ ! It is known. The only thing that could be better would be to get cast in season 4.

  326. Mormegil
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Monstadon: 1:07 Mormont about to be stabbed in the back? By that guy from the books standing behind him, I forget his name. But I remember he was one of the ones who kills him.

    You remember wrong then. In the book Rast isn’t part of the Mutiny as (unlike the show) he never went on the Ranging but died when the Wildlings attacked Castle Black.

  327. mariamb18
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Mister Stark,

    That is the best ending….for season 4.

    Agree. Perfect way to end the season.

  328. Sami
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Everyone is thinking… Theon was the one kicked at 00:20… It is obvious to me that they will start off by having Theon already is the torture chamber as a perfect way to bring in Ramsay Snow ….

    Am I the only one who has also noticed that stannis is talking to Davos seaworth behind the prison cell?

  329. Melisandre
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: I don’t want the PW to happen in season 3 because i’m some condescending douchebag. I want the RW to retain its maximum impact. I want the viewer to be as angry with the story as we were. I want them to mourn. I want them to rage at the Lannister gloating, I want them to feel the injustice of it all. I want the viewer to weep with Sansa. I want them to find hope in Dany’s victory, in Davos rescuing Gendry (???), to see the pieces begin to come together. To have the PW 50-70 minutes later will rob the RW of its power in my opinion. “Let’s kill Joffrey at the end of the season! But kill Robb first! Fuck you non-reader!”

    Couldn’t agree more.

    We’re not complaining or being ungrateful. No one will quit watching if they do the PW this season. We’re just hoping for a better experience, that’s all.

  330. grabbo
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I’ve read the RW and the PW in the same day and somehow it didn’t rob any impact of it. Show viewers will even have at least a week. Personally I’d feel story telling wise having the PW as the very last moment would be better story telling than starting out the next season with it. The Lannisters being at the height of their power, when suddenly their moment of triumph turns to ash in their moth at the very last moment would be far more powerful. Not to say that it will happen – no Martell and no Mace would speak against that theory. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be great.

  331. grabbo
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Sami,

    I think so too. I just think that he will escape at some point and the scenes in the trailer basically show him being captured again.

  332. Monstadon
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    The transcript is also missing the last line. Its kinda hard to hear. Right after Melisandre…

    Drogon: Dracarys, bitches!!

  333. mariamb18
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    grabbo:
    Joshua Taylor,

    The Lannisters being at the height of their power, when suddenly their moment of triumph turns to ash in their moth at the very last moment would be far more powerful.

    I am kind of reluctant to jump into this discussion but here it goes…

    Perhaps its just my interpretation of the events but it didn’t seem as if the Lannisters suffered much when Joffrey was murdered. Tommen is plugged immediately into Joffrey’s place and the Lannister reign continued. In fact, it continued even after Tywin’s death. Who truly mourned Joffrey other than Cersei?

    The only Lannister that suffered unjustly as a result of Joffrey’s death is Tyrion…accused of a crime he didn’t commit.

    Regardless of our personal preferences, we will have the answer to this debate in a few months.

  334. WildSeed
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:14 pm | Permalink

    mariamb18: I am kind of reluctant to jump into this discussion but here it goes…

    Perhaps its just my interpretation of the events but it didn’t seem as if the Lannisters suffered much when Joffrey was murdered. Tommen is plugged immediately into Joffrey’s place and the Lannister reign continued. In fact, it continued even after Tywin’s death. Who truly mourned Joffrey other than Cersei?


    The only Lannister that suffered unjustly as a result of Joffrey’s death is Tyrion…accused of a crime he didn’t commit.

    Regardless of our personal preferences, we will have the answer to this debate in a few months.

    I concur, especially with respect to the Lannisters, and Tyrion specifically.

  335. Anguissette1979
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    Monstadon,

    Ooh! I didn’t catch that one! ;-)

  336. Ben Manning
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we could have separate message boards for people who think the PW is possible in season three and those that actually have a brain?

  337. Frey Pie
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Whenever they do the PW, they need to go all out.
    -100s of extras
    -most of the ep dedicated to it
    -all the pomp, ceremony, excess

  338. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    mariamb18: I am kind of reluctant to jump into this discussion but here it goes…

    Perhaps its just my interpretation of the events but it didn’t seem as if the Lannisters suffered much when Joffrey was murdered. Tommen is plugged immediately into Joffrey’s place and the Lannister reign continued. In fact, it continued even after Tywin’s death. Who truly mourned Joffrey other than Cersei?


    The only Lannister that suffered unjustly as a result of Joffrey’s death is Tyrion…accused of a crime he didn’t commit.

    Regardless of our personal preferences, we will have the answer to this debate in a few months.

    If anything the Lannister house is hit hardest by Tywin’s death and as Cersei goes around messing up everything in their path.

  339. Hendric
    Posted March 18, 2013 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Come on guys. Mhysa: mother

    Dany being a diva scene + Cersei screaming at Joffrey’s dead body + UnCat being revealed.

    All episodes titles have multiple meanings.

  340. Joey
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:31 am | Permalink

    Why does daario look like the prince of Persia?

  341. Spryte
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    Joey,

    Now that I keep seeing him, it looks like he has a braid? I wonder if they’ll make his character out to be some kind of Khal instead of a sellsword.

    And as for the people still screaming PW or any kind of wedding I think what the trailer showed is Joffrey walking in with Sansa, maybe denouncing her afterwards, then declaring his love for Margaery, walking out with her, and presenting their engagement to the kingdom.

  342. qwerty
    Posted March 19, 2013 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    as a vocal critic of the awful trailers this season, i now say THIS, is how you do a trailer. FINALLY.

  343. A Secret Baratheon
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    mister frey:
    Greatjon of Slumber,

    A quick correction: As Omar would say, “Indeed,” Omar never once swore in the Wire. Man’s got to have a code.

    Not to be pendantic, but he does swear in his first appearance, mockingly says “oh shit” during the robbery where he poses as an old man and repeatedly calls Marlo a bitch during his hunt for him in season 5.

    Good point, but as a Wire fanatic, I have to insist on 100% accuracy. :-p

  344. beewulf
    Posted March 20, 2013 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Jack,

    I so hope you are right. I’ve been wondering if Coldhands wil appear this season.

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