Episode 22 – Dark Wings, Dark Words – Open Chat
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Gendry Arya Hot Pie

Well, you did it. You made it ONE WHOLE WEEK and now a new episode of Game of Thrones is nearly upon us. Chat about what you hope to see in this episode right here and we will be back immediately after it airs with our recap.

Writer: Vanessa Taylor
Director: Dan Minahan
Runtime: 57 min

Synopsis: Sansa says too much. Shae asks Tyrion for a favor. Jaime finds a way to pass the time. Arya runs into the Brotherhood Without Banners.

Videos: Ep. 21 Recap | Ep. 22 Preview | Ep. 22 Clip – Jaime and Brienne


164 Comments

  1. the other guy
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait !

    I have a feeling Thoros will be awesome.

  2. Winter's heart
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

    Very excited to meet the brotherhood without banners

  3. Ser Lyonel the Laughing Storm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    New Hot Pie material bitches!

  4. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Queen of Thorns,The Brotherhood, and Jojen and Meera all make their debuts tonight. Should be fun.

  5. Kevin Moore
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    reeky baby Leeky

  6. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:08 pm | Permalink

    Reek, Reek…it’s coming!

  7. Blackfish Blues
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Never mind telling me the time when it airs because we’re all off-kilter with Daylight Savings Time, but can someone tell me how many hours should I wait if I want to try and watch it alongside you all, or at least follow the chat? Thanks!

    (Hint: it’s 11 PM here)

  8. GeekFurious
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    M-O-O-N spells Meek which rhymes with Reek. #mixingbooksup

  9. GeekFurious
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues:
    Never mind telling me the time when it airs because we’re all off-kilter with Daylight Savings Time, but can someone tell me how many hours should I wait if I want to try and watch it alongside you all, or at least follow the chat? Thanks!

    (Hint: it’s 11 PM here)

    4.

  10. Blackfish Blues
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    thanks! Bonus points for the “Stand” quote. :D

  11. GeekFurious
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Blackfish Blues:
    GeekFurious,

    thanks! Bonus points for the “Stand” quote. :D

    I’ve always felt there were thematic similarities between The Stand and ASOIAF.

    And LOST for that matter.

  12. Hi-Fi
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Anguy day!

  13. HellFell
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    was hard to wait :) excited beyond measure

  14. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    I’m expecting this episode to feel a lot like the season premiere, in that it’s still putting the story lines of some of the characters into motion. Obviously we’ll be seeing Arya, and the gang at King’s Landing, but I wonder if we’ll actually be seeing Theon in this episode. I hope so. Also looking forward to meeting Orell and seeing more of Jon & Mance, as well as getting some Jaime & Brienne action. Basically I’m looking forward to all of it. Don’t think we’ll see Dany or the Night’s Watch this week, but everything else should be great. Also interested to see Catelyn “assassinate” her character (kidding, of course; I have no issues with how she has been portrayed in the show, despite it being different than her character from the novels).

    Just four more hours…

  15. Jason Nichols
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Is Theon confirmed to be in tonight’s episode??? That would be fantastic.

  16. Pointy End
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    I’m really looking forward to how the series Anguy will differ from book Anguy

  17. Joan Català
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Thoros, Olenna, Orell, Jojen, Meera… Lots of new characters introduced in a single episode. Could be tricky for non-readers. Maybe a few Tullys as well?

    Due to so many new introductions to the show, I think this episode will continue to have the introductory/catch-up feeling that had last week’s episode. All reports say it is better than Valar Dohaeris though. Fingers crossed!

    Also, with the only knowledge bestowed on me by trailers and the preview, I’m betting the cliffhanger of this episode is Jaime/Brienne being captured. Also betting Daenerys has little screentime if any.

  18. Veltigar
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    DAMN, HOT PIE looks like a BOSS ;-)

    THE PIE THAT WAS PROMISED IS BACK Y’ALL :D

  19. David The Grey
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Arya, Bran, Jamie & Brienne – tonight’s episode is going to be awesome! However, I think I’m most looking forward to seeing the Queen of Thorns. I have not seen Dame Diana Rigg before in anything, and from all of the good press she’s gotten, I think she has me the most curious!

  20. Turri
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    This one might set a new record for most storylines/places we go to/scenes. Hope it doesn’t feel too rushed.

    @Winter Is Coming: can you tell us how you liked it?

  21. pntrlqst
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Re: Theon — He is in tonight’s episode.

    Buzzsugar.com posted their recap of the episode this morning and it must have been an accident because I can no longer access it.

  22. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:28 pm | Permalink
  23. kevin
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    is reeky in this ep? someone must know

  24. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    No nudity in tonight’s episode? That’s a relief, now I don’t have to quickly change the channel when my mom walks in.

  25. pntrlqst
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    kevin,

    Yes, but he is posing as someone trying to help Theon escape.

  26. este enlace
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    I will see it tomorrow. I hope very much of this episode.

  27. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Only read if you read the FaB spoilers about the 4 first episodes. He told that Shireen and Selyse didn’t appear in any of these episodes, I’m the only that think that is a little strange? For sure in the next three episodes we are gonna see Dragonstone, but why HBO isn’t showing them? /

  28. Shaya Collins
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    I’m hoping for a lot more Jon Snow although I heard his story line doesn’t really take off in the first few episodes. Anyway, I’m very curious whether we’ll see more action in this episode or if it continues slow.

  29. Yago
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    ebevan91,

    No nudity? That’s outrageous.

    Looking forward to seeing Arya and Jaime again :D Gods, I hope they don’t show Dany in this episode. That would be great.

  30. Garry
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Good to hear about the lack of nudity.

    I couldn’t care less about sexual content in the books, but in the TV show it always feels like a cheap way of using up screen time; precious screen time that could be better spent on… well, pretty much anything from the books.

    Oh and let’s hope we see Reektonight!

  31. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    I’m beting the cliffhanger been a Theon scene, IDK if the Jaime and Brienne capture is a “:O” moment to end an episode

  32. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    First, a review of last week.

    I was re-watching Season 3, Episode 1, and I thought I’d share my random thoughts…

    The first scene with Sam was better with surround sound. (My wife went to bed early last week so I used the TV’s speakers. Today she’s out and it’s just me, a bottle of 12-year-old Elijah Craig, GoT, and you guys.)

    The whore with Bron reminded me of a young Geena Davis — the Victoria’s Secret Geena Davis. I hope we see that whore again.

    I feel bad for Salladhor Saan — that he didn’t get to “f**k” Cersie (yet).

    The scene that cut from Talisa to Tywin was reminiscent of that Talisa conspiracy video that I watched online after last week’s episode. Shit! Now I have to watch the whole Season 2 over again. Clear my calendar for next week. More bourbon!

    I want a wax seal for my office.

    The Ros whore may be sacrificed in favor of that Bron/Geena Davis whore.

    My surround sound came alive with the music of dragons!

    Natalie Dormer is so hot that if she were a Targaryen they’d call her “Margaerion.”

    Classic line: “…the metal work…”

    The little girl in Astapor may have been an assassin from The House of Black and White. That would be interesting.

  33. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    I’m the only that understand most of the sex scenes? For example, the Ros and Pycelle scene in S1 is amazing! That scene “only” shows that Pycelle is always faking to be an old and slow guy, but actually he is quite alive and knowing the things!

  34. Yago
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Brilliant indeed.

  35. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    That video blew my mind! The facts are in our faces and we didn’t realized it! I hope it’s true.

  36. coronaking
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    I think the episode title might also refer to Drogon and the word ‘Dracarys’!

  37. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair:
    First, a review of last week.

    I was re-watching Season 3, Episode 1, and I thought I’d share my random thoughts…

    The first scene with Sam was better with surround sound.(My wife went to bed early last week so I used the TV’s speakers.Today she’s out and it’s just me, a bottle of 12-year-old Elijah Craig, GoT, and you guys.)

    The whore with Bron reminded me ofa young Geena Davis — the Victoria’s Secret Geena Davis.I hope we see that whore again.

    I feel bad for Salladhor Saan — that he didn’t get to “f**k” Cersie (yet).

    The scene that cut from Talisa to Tywin was reminiscent of that Talisa conspiracy video that I watched online after last week’s episode.Shit!Now I have to watch the whole Season 2 over again.Clear my calendar for next week.More bourbon!

    I want a wax seal for my office.

    The Ros whore may be sacrificed in favor of that Bron/Geena Davis whore.

    My surround sound came alive with the music of dragons!

    Natalie Dormer is so hot that if she were a Targaryen they’d call her “Margaerion.”

    Classic line: “…the metal work…”

    The little girl in Astapor may have been an assassin from The House of Black and White.That would be interesting.

    I think Dany says “the Warlocks” after the assassination attempt. It’s hard to hear. And the girl has blue lips like the Warlocks.

  38. HellFell
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    I’m the only that understand most of the sex scenes? For example, the Ros and Pycelle scene in S1 is amazing! That scene “only” shows that Pycelle is always faking to be an old and slow guy, but actually he is quite alive and knowing the things!

    that was not really a sex scene. We are talking about S1E7 and S2E2 kind of material here

  39. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious: M-O-O-N spells Meek which rhymes with Reek. #mixingbooksup

    That’s two Stephen King references in one week. Cool. James Hibberd of EW.com likened the creepy little girl assassin in Astapor to the two creepy little girls in (the Film version of) The Shining.

  40. Garry
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Depends on how its being used. If its being used for the sake of plot advancement and/or character development, I’m all for it. Examples: Tyrion in Winterfell, Ross + Pycelle

    If it’s just there for no reason while using up limited screen time, I’m against it. Examples: most of the brothel scenes with Petyr

  41. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    coronaking,

    I’m 99% sure that it’s about a letter announcing the “deaths” of Bran and Rickon or Hoster death.

  42. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    ebevan91,

    True. But, if you can change your face, why not change it to that of a Warlock.

    I would.

  43. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    HellFell,

    What happened in that episodes? I don’t remember

  44. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Michel:

    That video blew my mind! The facts are in our faces and we didn’t realized it! I hope it’s true.

    Link please?

  45. coronaking
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    coronaking,
    I’m 99% sure that it’s about a letter announcing the “deaths” of Bran and Rickon or Hoster death.

    I think that too, but I always love when the episode title relates to several story lines (like in “Garden of Bones” or brilliantly in “A Golden Crown”).

  46. Garry
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair:
    The first scene with Sam was better with surround sound.

    Completely agree — it’s the sound, perhaps more than anything else, that makes the scene so foreboding. By comparison, I re-watched the episode using computer speakers and was very underwhelmed.

  47. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:56 pm | Permalink
  48. WheelofIceandFire
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    I really hope we get to see a lot of Arya in this episode. I hope it isnt just one scene. I can see them leaving Dany out of this episode (and maybe Davos/Stannis/Mel) so i hope they feature my fave character a lot :)

  49. Arthur
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    I’ve said this before and I will say it again. However I know it may have to be done a lil different to make for a good television viewing. I also know Brienne already did something similar and Sir Barristan just did at the end of last episode. I still think it’s cool to see major puzzle pieces being put into place and giving to POV characters.

    All that being said, I’m really looking forward to hearing the Reeds make their pledge to Bran…

    “To Winterfell we pledge the faith of Greywater,” they said together. “Hearth and heart and harvest we yield up to you, my lord. Our swords and spears and arrows are yours to command. Grant mercy to our weak, help to our helpless, and justice to all, and we shall never fail you.”
    “I swear it by earth and water,” said the boy in green.
    “I swear it by bronze and iron,” his sister said.
    “We swear it by ice and fire,” they finished together.

  50. Turri
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    If seeing some boobs is troubling you more than beheadings, stabbings, people getting limbs cut off, eviscerated and (hopefully) flayed, you should re-examine your sensibilities. Just saying.

  51. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    I hope we see Varys this episode too! Conleth Hill is amazing.

  52. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    Steel_Wind,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsTVnZm9hFg

    Interesting! Most of it can be explained away — but the Tywin line? Not so much. That definitely got my attention.

  53. Cary Storm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    I am really looking forward to the Brotherhood without Banners.

  54. Omar Brown
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Trying to waste time till the premiere? Watch the best GOT meme evar!

    http://www.wicgeeks.com/t53209561/thrones-patricks/

  55. Eleonora
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    That video blew my mind! The facts are in our faces and we didn’t realized it! I hope it’s true.

    Link please?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsTVnZm9hFg

    I think this is the video they are referring to

  56. Chuck88
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Really can’t wait to get a glimpse of Theon and the guy that will make Joffrey look like Barney the dinosaur

  57. Drunken Fool
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone else thing that Thoros will kind of absorb Greenbeard’s role from the book, maybe even Lem’s role too? I also wonder if there will be a Harwin type character for the Northern connection.

  58. Joan Català
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind,

    I’d say the Tywin line refers to the RW. Most of the other ‘facts’ can be explained by a number of different reasons. For example: Talisa writing in the middle of the camp. If you’re writing a report on the Stark camp you don’t do it in the middle of the day surrounded by passing soldiers. As for her knowledge of Westerosi customs it’s something that can be picked up fairly quickly and easily. The only decent argument is her lack of accent.

  59. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Joan Català,

    The problem with chalking Tywin’s line up to the RW is that there is no factual basis at all for ever hoping that such a thing might ever occur, or could occur, at the time Tywin says it. That only happens well afterwards. So the point is, was Talisa introduced into the camp as a honeypot to provide the necessary facts for the RW? An interesting theory.

  60. Jaime Lannister
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Is Ramsay really in it? I can’t wait.

  61. Lex
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    In the words of Borat, I AM VERY EXCITE!

  62. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I wouldn’t hold my breath on that pledge being included. It was already pretty corny in the books. I can’t even begin to picture on screen.

  63. The Lightning Lord
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    In regards to this whole Roose change thing, sending in some nurse girl to get Robb to fall in love with him so he betrays his vows is far too contrived. Think of all the variables it relies on over which the Lannisters/Boltons have little to no control. I really hope this theory doesn’t turn out to be true, its far too ridiculous for my taste

  64. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:28 pm | Permalink
  65. Zack
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    HellFell,

    Yep yep. There are only a few really bad scenes like that. Most of them are unfortunately pretty heavy on the sexposition but still halfway decent as far as being worthy additions to the plot. I will be happy if we don’t get terrible brothel scenes this season. Sex scenes, boobs, ass etc is inevitable and not a big deal. Some of them are even among fans’ most anticipated scenes. Lord’s Kiss FTW.

  66. Cary Storm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    The Lightning Lord,

    I don’t think she was supposed to fall in love with him. I think she was simply supposed to be a spy.

  67. lawsonof-houselawson
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    actually miss being lost on lost…they should have had books!

  68. Cary Storm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    Trying to waste time till the premiere? Watch the best GOT meme evar!

    http://www.wicgeeks.com/t53209561/thrones-patricks/

    Patrick is THE BEST GoT Crossover MEME ever.

  69. Jaime Lannister
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    <3

  70. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    I have a raging throner right now.

  71. tysnow
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Joan Català,

    Well if you look at the frames showing the letter she was writing it is clearly describing the size of Robb’s forces, the direction he is traveling, another host marching along the coast, he will arrive at week’s end, etc. (2:40-2:45 second mark), I never saw this freeze framed before now, it means Talisa is a spy, but for whom. It may not be Tywin, but Doran instead. Which would be cool indeed if it were the case either way.

  72. Arkash
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    So… tonight’s arcs shall be :

    - Arya.
    - Bran.
    - Jaime / Brienne.
    - Reek.
    - Sansa (and the Tyrells).
    - Cersei (and the Tyrells).
    - Jon.
    - Sam.

    Which would leave out of this episode :
    - Dany.
    - Davos / Stannis / Melissandre.
    - Tyrion ?

  73. Skyofwelkup
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    Arkash,

    A scene with Tyrion and Shae is mentioned in the synopsis.

  74. MedievalFantasy
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:58 pm | Permalink

    It’s confirmed we’re getting Theon in this episode, and that Ramsay is posing as someone sent by Asha/Yara to rescue him. Sandor will also be in this episode, and he recognizes Araya straight away, revealing her to the BwB.

  75. kevin1989
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    coronaking,

    How can that happen in episode 2, when Danny isn’t in episode 2? She will be in episode 3 and 4. In 3 she will buy the Army, and probably sell one of her Dragons. And in episode 4 we will see Dracarys.

  76. Joan Català
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,

    The frame you talk of is of Arya reading the letter (after that she keeps it, Amory Lorch goes after her and is killed). It is not Talisa reading. Note how there is no music when Talisa talks, the letter appears with background music, and it is gone as soon as the frame changes to Talisa again.
    It is a montage to try and trick you into thinking this theory is true.

  77. Jordioteque
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    kevin1989,

    In case you forgot, Dany sells Drogon immediately before “dracarys” and the Sack of Astapor — the time between the occurrences is a minute or two, tops. I’m thinking Episode 3 will show her bargaining with the Great Master(s) and understanding when they insult her and agreeing to the deal, as it is in the book. Then Episode 4, of course, will contain them meeting for the exchange and the results.

  78. Isabelle
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    Trying to waste time till the premiere? Watch the best GOT meme evar!

    http://www.wicgeeks.com/t53209561/thrones-patricks/

    It’s all I ever wanted.

    That Hodor one, though…some things you just can’t unsee!

    On tonight’s episode–I can’t wait to meet the Queen of Thorns and see Arya again, as well as the Brienne-Jaime double act.

    But I’m most looking forward to Catelyn’s monologue about Jon Snow–I know it’s going to be a fierce point of contention, but I am so, so exceedingly curious as to how it’s going to play out. I may end up loving the scene or absolutely hating it, but am such a glutton for any hint or insight about the relationship/shared past between these two, book or show version. It fascinates me.

  79. Caro H
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Based on a preview written over at westeros.org, it seems that The Hound may appear in this episode!! YAY! :D

  80. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    I think they should show more of Astapor and the story of the Ghiscari, and that stuff for the non-readers. The view of the city in episode 1 from Dany ship was amazing

  81. Scott Glennon
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    I am supposed to be focused on my own writing, but instead I’m surfing and jonesing for showtime. Really want to see how the BwB plays out. Not sure I buy the Talisa conspiracy, but I guess we’ll find out-and that’s half the fun isn’t it?

  82. qwerty
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    finally watched larry’s review and guess what? i think he was mostly on point. yet predictably, that kicked a hornet’s nest of negative sentiment around here.

    re: tyrion/tywin. i distinctly recall being puzzled by tywin’s treatment of tyrion in the opening chapters of the book too. it’s not until later that it makes some sort of sense (re: jaime’s freedom), BUT at that stage, it was a shock EVEN FOR TYRION himself. so why would you be surprised that someone who has not the the books would think it a regression? that is exactly what it was, a regression in their relationship because of some external event that tyrion had no way of knowing about. larry’s reaction was perfectly normal.

    as for his the rest, i can’t blame him for thinking that qarth/warlock/assassin stuff was the stuff of last season either. IN THE BOOKS, IT WAS. in fact, i find it really interesting and perceptive of him that he unwittingly detected that scene did not belong there. that’s why i read non-readers reviews, not to validate my love for the show, but because i crave a perspective unspoiled by my knowledge of the books — positive, negative and anywhere in between or outside of it.

    but apparently for the crime of disagreeing with the consensus, larry is no longer featured here? ridiculous. what is the purpose of this site anyway? to advertise for hbo? or to discuss the show, WARTS AND ALL?

  83. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    qwerty:
    finally watched larry’s review and guess what? i think he was mostly on point.yet predictably, that kicked a hornet’s nest of negative sentiment around here.

    but apparently for the crime of disagreeing with the consensus, larry is no longer featured here? ridiculous. what is the purpose of this site anyway? to advertise for hbo? or to discuss the show, WARTS AND ALL?

    I watch Larry’s reviews as I find them to be entertaining. I remain hugely bummed that the RW was spoiled for him. By spoiling it for him, that dick vicariously spoiled it for me, too.

    We still bring out the “they killed my Nigga Ned” line in my home from time to time to express comedic disgust at somebody else’s conduct.

  84. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    The Queen of Effing Thorns!!

    You just KNOW Dame Diana Rigg is gonna bring it.

    That’s Emmy Award Winning, BAFT Award Winning, and Tony Award Winning, Dame Diana Rigg.

    A Bond Girl!

  85. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Haven’t you forgot something? Starts a with an H….?

  86. Pop
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone know if Jaime loses his hand in this episode or would that be too early?

  87. Chellester
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    I can’t wait for Jaime and Brienne to fight! Plus I’ve been deprived of my girl, Arya.

  88. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I would lower my expectations if I were you dude. Yes it would be awesome but someone in the writing room might have found it cheesy.

  89. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Pop,

    It happens at the end of the third episode. This is also the episode that features the punk rock version of ‘The Bear and the Maiden Fair’ in the closing credits.

  90. FSBlue
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Pop:
    Does anyone know if Jaime loses his hand in this episode or would that be too early?

    I’m pretty sure that is what ends episode 3

  91. Turri
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    Scott Glennon,
    I kind of like the idea D&D would try to make the RW shocking for the readers as well, recreating the original experience in a different way. Could be done, I think, even if most won’t like it – but then you’re not really supposed to.

    Still not convinced that’s where we’re headed, though.

  92. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: Haven’t you forgot something? Starts a with an H….?

    Okay, I give up. I know Doctor Who is nominated for 3 Hugos? (GoT is nominated too, BTW).

  93. Pop
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Cheers guys, been a while since I read the book and couldn’t remember what time it happened.

  94. tysnow
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

    Joan Català,

    Oh, very sly of him then to re-edit the sequence, I thought Talisa’s fingers were awfully grimy. That explains it, they were Arya’s, Kudos for the deception.

  95. tysnow
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:20 pm | Permalink

    I was contemplating the growth spurt of Isaac and how it might translate to a little Bran/Meera lovin:)

  96. Joshua Taylor
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Highgarden!!!

  97. Nerd
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    So excited to see Arya!!!

    Which reminds me, in last weeks episode when Littlefinger told Sansa that Arya was still alive do you think he was lying or do you think it was a confirmation he recognized her as Tywin’s cupbearer in season 2? Sorry if this has already been covered in last weeks comments.

  98. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Nerd,

    I think he saw her! But who the hell knows..for sure D&D put that line to make us being confused about that

  99. House Snow
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    I liked the way they handled the LF sansa convo about Arya last week, leaving it in the air about whether he saw her, that was one of the most littlefingerish thing he had done in a while. People complain about him not being subtle and then they complain when he is too subtle.

  100. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: Highgarden!!!

    Oh! HA HA HA! You had me on Google and effing Wiki, feeling so bad dissed The Dame.

    Turns out I dissed The effing Reach. I shall rectify by saying…

    HIGHGARDEN!!

    and

    ALWAYS SUPPORT THE BOTTOM!!

  101. Turri
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    tysnow,
    FaBio has actually suggested the Bran/Jojen ship might set sail tonight.

  102. Hollyoak
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    I have no idea what happens this episode but I am SO looking forward to it.

    It’s so funny how we all have different rituals when it comes to Thrones, Can you believe that I have never watched an “On the next Game of Thrones…”

    Previews are spoilers to me, as are episode titles and the summary for the episode. I did not want to look at those at all when WiC first posted them.

    For the people who watch the previews, read episode titles and summaries, do you feel your enjoyment is lessened a little bit, knowing what’s coming in the episode?

  103. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak: For the people who watch the previews, read episode titles and summaries, do you feel your enjoyment is lessened a little bit, knowing what’s coming in the episode?

    Indeed. Congratulations! You are now a member of the BwP (the Brotherhood without Previews).

  104. Winterlarks
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    Sexy times!

  105. Jen
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak:
    I have no idea what happens this episode but I am SO looking forward to it.

    It’s so funny how we all have different rituals when it comes to Thrones, Can you believe that I have never watched an “On the next Game of Thrones…”

    Previews are spoilers to me, as are episode titles and the summary for the episode. I did not want to look at those at all when WiC first posted them.

    For the people who watch the previews, read episode titles and summaries, do you feel your enjoyment is lessened a little bit, knowing what’s coming in the episode?

    Since I’ve read the books, I don’t feel like I can be spoiled on ~big events~ … so watching previews, reading “spoilers” and seeing clips just makes me more excited / pumped up.

  106. idkk
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Steel_Wind,

    Steel_Wind: I watch Larry’s reviews as I find them to be entertaining. I remain hugely bummed that the RW was spoiled for him. By spoiling it for him, that dick vicariously spoiled it for me, too.


    We still bring out the “they killed my Nigga Ned” line in my home from time to time to express comedic disgust at somebody else’s conduct.

    I thought Joffrey’s death was what got spoiled, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t know about the RW.

  107. thisone
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    Hollyoak:
    For the people who watch the previews, read episode titles and summaries, do you feel your enjoyment is lessened a little bit, knowing what’s coming in the episode?

    Absolutely. Actually, I think I’ll invoke my BwP membership right now. Chair, what were the words again?

  108. pntrlqst
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    idkk,

    No. On his Facebook, after receiving a ton of flak for his review of “The Prince of Winterfell,” he said he was hesitant about continuing with the series because they had already killed his two favs (Ned and Drogo) and he knew they were soon going to kill two more (he didn’t specify which two, but we can guess).

  109. House baratheon
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    When I read my first reek chapter my nipples were so hard they could have cut diamonds.

  110. Anne
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    I can’t wait for all of it! 6 minutes!

  111. Urban Bran
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Anyone have a link to watch tonight’s episode?

  112. Mike Chair
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    thisone: I think I’ll invoke my BwP membership right now. Chair, what were the words again?

    I coined “BwP” but I didn’t write the words. I believe the words … and I’m going back two years here … are aptly quoted thusly:

    sjwenings: This oath might suffice.

    The previews gather, and now my celibacy begins. It shall not end until the last episode has aired. I shall watch no trailers, nor no clips, read no scripts. I shall remain ignorant to the things seen by other weaker-willed men. I shall live and die at my post.

    I am the reader of articles. I am the participant of discussions. I am the reviewer of episodes past, the ponderer of hidden messages, the resistor of temptations, the one who just scrolls down.

    I pledge my life and honor to the Brotherhood without previews, for this season and all the seasons to come.

  113. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:01 pm | Permalink

    As Vasquez once said: Let’s Rock!!

  114. Andrew
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Not on HBO Go yet

  115. thisone
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Awesome! Enjoy the episode, guys.

    The previews gather, and now my celibacy begins. It shall not end until the last episode has aired. I shall watch no trailers, nor no clips, read no scripts. I shall remain ignorant to the things seen by other weaker-willed men. I shall live and die at my post.

    I am the reader of articles. I am the participant of discussions. I am the reviewer of episodes past, the ponderer of hidden messages, the resistor of temptations, the one who just scrolls down.

    I pledge my life and honor to the Brotherhood without previews, for this season and all the seasons to come.

  116. AshStorm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Crap. Even after watching S03E01 a billion times this week, I still get kicked in the feels when I see Winterfel burning in the intro :/

  117. AshStorm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    JOJEN :D

  118. Darquemode
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    I love this line ..
    “No one enjoys the company of a humorless mute.”

    Well, you may change your mind Jaime, be careful what you wish for! XD

  119. LordDavos12
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    REEK

  120. Mark
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    REEK REEK IT RHYMES WITH FREAK!

  121. Dingbat
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Anybody else having problems with the sound on HBO? It keeps cutting out for two seconds at a time every minute or so.

  122. AshStorm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Queen of Thorns KILLING IT!

  123. LordDavos12
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    AshStorm:
    Queen of Thorns KILLING IT!

    I agree, I’m quite impressed with her.

  124. LordDavos12
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Are we going to see the Blackfish this episode? I’m really looking forward to that.

  125. kingthlayer
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    I wont be able to watch until 10! :(

    Are the opening credits the same as S3E1? Or did the they add the Dreadfort for Reek?

  126. Scott Glennon
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    Cat…Cat…..;(

    For Winterfell…

  127. LordDavos12
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

    kingthlayer,

    Same opening. Ooh, but they just actually said warg, hooray!

  128. Mark
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    but no bear all covered in hair, that was a nice little touch to the story (and was hoping for it when I saw the Lannister soldiers following them)

  129. AshStorm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    Summer looked AMAZING

  130. cozmeesah
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    I very much loved that added Catelyn scene. Differs from the book but in a good way.

  131. Bill Volk
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:47 pm | Permalink

    Arya’s hair is growing, but Gendry and Hot Pie’s hair isn’t. Even though they’ve been on the same journey together. Do they give haircuts at Harrenhal?

  132. AshStorm
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Theon got screwed on that one!

    (I’ll let myself out the door…)

  133. egsn
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    pretty epic episode overall.

  134. cozmeesah
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:01 pm | Permalink

    Wonderful episode. Lots of info dump & great lines.

  135. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    My TV spazzed for a moment after Sandor said “What in the Seven Hells is…” and I couldn’t catch the rest of the sentance. What was it?

  136. Darquemode
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:02 pm | Permalink
  137. lawsonof-houselawson
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    6 days and 23 hours people!!!

  138. LordDavos12
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    My TV spazzed for a moment after Sandor said “What in the Seven Hells is…” and I couldn’t catch the rest of the sentance. What was it?

    What in Seven hells are you doing with a bitch Stark, or something to that effect

  139. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    ah, thank you

  140. Freyja
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    “…the stark bitch doing here” i think.

  141. Scott Glennon
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Hot and cold runnin’ Damn that was a good episode! Arya and Thoros reminded me…we got some wicked sword fights coming!

    For Winterfell!

  142. Matt
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    LOVED: Thoros, Queen of Thorns, Catelyn monologue, Hound at the end, Loras + Sansa set up
    LIKED: Theon torture, Orell, Warg stuff, Jamie + Brienne,
    DISLIKED: The scenery, Direwolf CGI, Sam and co, Cersei and Joff, Margery and Joff, The Reeds (both of them are boring as hell), Jamie and Briennes swordfight (compared to Ned vs Jamie it was BORING)

    Compared to Episode 1 I found a lot of this episode freaking boring as hell. What the hell went wrong? Was it Vanessa Taylor? Maybe I just need to rewatch the episode?

  143. Tyler
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Love the show and always will, but I am really disliking the more and more changes that are made from the book, subtle and large. Still a great TV program and I understand they do what they must.

  144. lawsonof-houselawson
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome,

    something bout the “little stark bitch”

  145. jasonw
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    lawsonof-houselawson,

    haha i know, it is way to long. Why can it not be on early on HBOGO

  146. ebevan91
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    LordDavos12: What in Seven hells are you doing with a bitch Stark, or something to that effect

    Switch bitch and Stark around and that’s what he said.

  147. TastesLikeTheSea
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Matt,

    Was it seriously that bad?

  148. Matt
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Oh I forgot Tyrion and Shae’s scene – terrible. God I cringed the whole way through, whether it was bad acting, or poor writing or what. But my God… They better step their game up for Episode 3.

  149. Michel
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    - Loved Olenna, Anguy and Thoros. Jojen and Meera, and Orell are okay for now.

    - Reek! Even if Theon/Reek is my favorite arc in the whole book series, I’m not confident about it in the show! I hope we get more of the “Boy” in the third episode.

    - Mace Tyrel was mentioned 1391293291 times these episode, for sure we are gonna see him in S4 or even this season.

    - Did D&D forget to show the non readers that Roose stayed at Harenhall.

    - Where is Varys? :(

    - The new scene about Jojen telling that Howland Reed cried when Ned died was great!

    - The fight scene was great! I think that Noah Taylor is gonna rock as Locke

    - Where is Burn Gorman? Since we know that he takes part on the mutiny at Craster’s, wouldn’t be strange that if they only introduce him in the episode of the mutiny?

    9,5/10 (I gave 10/10 for the first)

  150. Matt
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    TastesLikeTheSea,

    I’m watching the 10PM re-run now and I will approach each scene again and reassess. Other people will have different opinions sure, but Ep2 just didn’t excite me even half as much as Ep1.

  151. cozmeesah
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Matt,

    What are you smoking? There wasn’t any bad writing OR bad acting in this episode.

    Robb said that Roose would stay to garrison Harrenhal when they left for Riverrun.

  152. Matt
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:15 pm | Permalink

    cozmeesah,

    Uh the Tyrion/Shae scene was dreadful. And Robb said Roose was gonna stay behind at Harrenhal, what are YOU smoking? I loved the Robb/Roose/Karstark stuff

  153. gisizzlah
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Another Great episode…..

    Loved that we see what happens to Theon and his slow disintegration….
    Also loved we start to see the ‘cracks’ in Tyrion and Shae’s relationship…
    And i wonder if book readers picked up on Margery’s line where she says “Do you want me to show you?”…. (freaky freakay!!)

    i was expecting a bit more from the introduction of the Reeds….

    But overall it was great as always….

    :) Hodor!

  154. Hollyoak
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    thisone: Absolutely. Actually, I think I’ll invoke my BwP membership right now.Chair, what were the words again?

    Oh, I’ve been around since its inception. I remember one of the vows was”…I just scroll down.” That always cracked me up .

  155. Ed
    Posted April 7, 2013 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Wizard!!!

    Michel:
    I’m beting the cliffhanger beena Theon scene, IDK if the Jaime and Brienne capture is a “:O” moment to end an episode

  156. Lexyvil
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Michel,

    I’m kind of glad that not all the episode endings are cliffhangers. Those are too much cliched.

  157. Kalamies
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 4:46 am | Permalink

    I got a question to those who have read A Dance with Dragons :
    Are Theon scenes in Season 3 same as they happened in the book? I haven’t read Dance with Dragons yet so the season 3 will spoil some of them to me. Thanks.

  158. sunspear
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 6:55 am | Permalink

    Kalamies,

    There are no scenes of Theon getting tortured. The hole thing is told as memories of Theon.

  159. David The Grey
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    AshStorm,

    Ouch! For Theon, not your sense of humor, which I thought was just fine. No need to let yourself out! :-)

  160. Azad Injejikian
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    re: Talisa honeypot theory

    Ha! If she is a honeypot, I’m totally calling it from now: Stoneheart’s hanging her instead of a Frey at season’s end (resulting in the internets ‘sploding)

  161. Jack
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    More HOT PIE! More HOT PIE! I think he’s going further than in the book version.

  162. Ohquityourbitchin
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Poor Matt , Billy Goats Gruff walking across your bridge again?

  163. Ed
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 9:35 pm | Permalink

    I like that! I don’t have any idea logistically how they could pull it off, but it sounds cool.

    Azad Injejikian:
    re: Talisa honeypot theory

    Ha! If she is a honeypot, I’m totally calling it from now: Stoneheart’s hanging her instead of a Frey at season’s end (resulting in the internets ‘sploding)

  164. Kayla
    Posted April 10, 2013 at 3:32 am | Permalink

    Michel,

    Michel,

    In an interview posted on westeros.org Julian Glover stated that the old/young physical deception was an in-production fluke that worked with his character so D&D added it in. Also, his Pycelle has expanded screen time because he told D&D that he’s too good of an actor to have a “small role.” Wish I found the link to post here. It’s somewhere on westeros.org.


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