Recap Round-up: “Dark Wings, Dark Words”
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Here are some notable recaps and reviews of episode 22 of Game of Thrones:

Book Readers
Sean T. Collins – Rolling Stone
Myles McNutt – Cultural Learnings
James Hibberd – Entertainment Weekly
Alyssa Rosenberg – ThinkProgress
Scott Meslow – The Week
Todd VanDerWerff – A.V. Club
Sarah Hughes – The Guardian
James Poniewozik – Time

New Viewers
Alan Sepinwall – HitFix
Andy Greenwald – Grantland
David Sims – A.V. Club
John Kubicek – Buddy TV


50 Comments

  1. Johnny3toes
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    HODOR!

  2. Jen
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Can people please please please stop referring to Theon as a “ward”? HOSTAGE/CAPTIVE/PRISONER … *raaaage*

  3. Alex
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Loved Larry Williams review. There is finally more excitement and passion in his review.

  4. jasonw
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Jen,

    are you talking about when he was at Winterfel? because he was none of those things you said, well kind of but not. He was taken from his home, yes. But he was raised with respect befitting his station. Forcing family members to live with the winning side is a part of this world, they are not treated bady, well Sansa is, but this is that world.

    Jamie was a captive/prisoner/hostage not Theon

  5. Jen
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    jasonw: Jen, are you talking about when he was at Winterfel? because he was none of those things you said, well kind of but not. He was taken from his home, yes. But he was raised with respect befitting his station. Forcing family members to live with the winning side is a part of this world, they are not treated bady, well Sansa is, but this is that world.Jamie was a captive/prisoner/hostage not Theon

    He was absolutely a prisoner/hostage and not a ward. Had his father rebelled, he would have been killed. That’s why Ned purposely never got close to him. It is one of the most important distinctions regarding his character … from the age of 10-19 he had that hanging over his head. Yes, he was treated well, but still. People just love the Starks so much that they hate Theon, I think :(

  6. jasonw
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Jen,

    and you have to remember too that kids are raised at different geat houses all the time, Ned (second in line to the Winterfell) and Robert (first in line to Stormsend) both were raised away from home. This was by choice but the Thoen thing is like a forced version of this. Ned and Robert were wards and so Theon is called to show again his station

  7. Anne
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    oh, James Poniewozik’s review is pretty good…non-book readers should read it, because he’s able to make people understand stuff without spoilers. Alan Speinwall is also a recapper I like to read. I usually hit his website up immediately after the episode ends-to see how a non-reader interprets the show. He’s good with posting recaps as soon as the episode ends.

  8. zaprowsdower
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Jen,

    Well, that is how he is referred to in the book…?

  9. Jen
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    zaprowsdower: Jen, Well, that is how he is referred to in the book…?

    He refers to himself as a prisoner*, so even if others use the euphemism “ward” for his situation, I think it’s an important difference.

    I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT THEON DON’T EVEN GET ME STARTED. haha

    *at least in the show … but he does refer to the “noose around [his] neck” in ACOK

  10. zaprowsdower
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Jen,

    No, people hate Theon because he a cocky asshole who makes bad decisions.

  11. Jen
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    zaprowsdower,

    I think it’s a defense mechanism and how he’s built up his importance / his family’s importance in his mind over the years that he was forced to be away. He also tries to be like Ned / a Stark during ACOK. He’s always TRYING to do the right thing and he has these ~ideas~ but everything just goes horribly.

    *And by “right” thing I mean the thing he thinks he SHOULD do, and yes he is often influenced by the wrong people.

  12. Hector
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Thanks! Im gonna keep coming back to this web page from now on

  13. Strepsi
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    I always LOL at the Newbie recaps at AfterElton.com

    http://www.afterelton.com/2013/04/game-thrones-recap-302-release-the-hounds

  14. The Flayed Man
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    WiC, another one just went up on HBOWatch

  15. A-Gone
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    When do we find out the ratings ?

  16. Johnny3toes
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Hi all, I am having trouble putting in my spoiler tags on my iPhone. Any pointers or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and here’s hoping for a story about the Tower of Joy this season.

  17. Javi Marcos
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    In one of the new Viewers recap the writer thinks that Theon is being tortured by the Tullys 0_0

  18. Winter Is Coming
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    A-Gone:
    When do we find out the ratings ?

    Tomorrow.

    Johnny3toes:
    Hi all, I am having trouble putting in my spoiler tags on my iPhone. Any pointers or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and here’s hoping for a story about the Tower of Joy this season.

    Just put <b> before the text you want to cover and </b> after it.

  19. Anne
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Strepsi:
    I always LOL at the Newbie recaps at AfterElton.com

    http://www.afterelton.com/2013/04/game-thrones-recap-302-release-the-hounds

    OMG they are hilarious!

  20. Drew
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:51 am | Permalink
  21. Bran
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    U people just dont know what’s Theon going to suffer.there will be a day when he just be afraid of his name.i come from the hell where u have to remember your name sister is his last dialogue in d dance with d dragon

  22. Turri
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Javi Marcos,
    I could spot a Greyjoy sigil on a guard in the background for a moment, 95% sure on that.

  23. Johnny3toes
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    Thank sooo much. Got it to work

  24. Quowala
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Strepsi,

    I love how they refer to the lesser characters.
    Rickard Karstark is ‘Robb’s grey-bearded advisor’
    And Roose Bolton is ‘some dude called Bolton’

  25. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Collins makes a good point I didn’t even realize at first — last night’s episode was totally dominated by the female characters — and NOT the main one, i.e. Dany. Which was pretty cool. I think the Lady Olenna is going to be a game-changer (lame pun intended).

    The only downer I can think of (that I didn’t mention in my original comment on the recap post) is the noticeable lack of Vargo Hoat. I’m not sure if they thought the lisp-thing would come off too cheesy on television, or if they didn’t have enough screen-time to explain the backstory of the Bloody Mummers, or if they thought viewers would confuse them with the Brotherhood Without Banners (or a combination of all three), but I really think they should’ve kept Hoat in. Perhaps they didn’t need to make him quite so colorful as he is in the books, but they should’ve used the basic idea of Hoat & the Bloody Mummers (especially considering some of the other Mummers’ antics later on down the road — which I’m sure D&D and the writing team have already accounted for, but they’re only creating more work for themselves).

  26. superdeluxe
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    No Jenifer Braun this year :(, wish another publication would pay her to write recaps, her non-book reader recaps are great

  27. Mike Chair
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    My favorites from the Hibberd recap:

    Momentum increases next week. And episode four is … ohhh, I can’t wait to recap a scene in that one!

    Later, a boy sent to wash the floor … as brutal as these torturers are, they still care about maintaining a clean and hygienic dungeon.

    “…We don’t get to choose who we love.”
    That’s honest — when you screw your sister you cannot afford to be judgmental.

    Joffrey says, “This is becoming one of the most boring conversations I’ve ever had.” I gotta say: You have to be a pretty confident TV writer to put that line in a show that’s getting recapped by half the internet.

    Olenna then starts demanding cheese right this minute, like a feisty senior at an Applebee’s.

    I want Jon to say: “No dammit! I’ve never met a giant, I’ve never met a warg. Get off my ass will you!”

    Later, Jojen tells Bran he’s a warg. So he’s got that going for him.

    “You could have picked King Joffrey,” he says. “You could have picked Tywin Lannister. You could have ended the war!”
    Gendry, if you ever get tired of walking around Westeros, you could totally have a career recapping Game of Thrones.

    One of them is singing the Lannister anthem “Rains of Castamere,” but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re bad guys. The song is the Westeros equivalent of gangsta rap — just because you sing it doesn’t mean you’re going to kill somebody.

    Margaery explains that Renly … suggested they engage in “something very painful that couldn’t possibly result in children,” creating a rather long and polite new term for a popular video category on adult websites.

    Like Arya, Jaime is captured. Wait, can you be captured if you’re already captured? He’s double-captured too!

  28. GeekFurious
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    I watched last night’s episode 3 times before I went to sleep. That means it was extra awesome. Imagine how many times I will watch episode 3… or 4… granted, next Monday I have an early appointment so I may only be able to watch GOT 3 times before sleep.

  29. Suzaku
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    A “ward” is someone who is under someone else’s guard or custody. Yes, he was technically a hostage, but under the pretense of wardship.

    Varamyr Fourskins,
    I think replacing the Mummers with Bolton bannermen is actually a pretty clever change, in that it’ll help viewers familiarize themselves with House Bolton as it begins taking a more prominent place in the series.

    That, and I think Hoat’s lisp, like many character quirks that have been excised from the show, has the potential to come across as ridiculous on TV. Some things work on paper that don’t work on screen.

  30. Roger Dering
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    “He refers to himself as a prisoner*, so even if others use the euphemism “ward” for his situation, I think it’s an important difference.”

    He’s the one that tried to convince his father to join Robb’s cause after he returned to Pyke. He didn’t start thinking of himself as hostage or prisoner until he needed something to defend his actions. A hostage doesn’t get

  31. Jen
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Roger Dering,

    I don’t think he ever thought of himself as Robb’s prisoner, and he obviously did feel brotherly towards Robb and had good intentions. Then he was absolutely humiliated by his family for whom he always held in very high regard. We don’t get his POV in AGOT, but in ACOK you definitely get that he always felt out of place / like a prisoner.

    And then in ADWD you get a lot of his conflicted thoughts about not having a home and wanting to be a Stark, etc. When he tried to take over Winterfell, a lot of it was trying to establish a PLACE or a HOME and trying to be a Stark … but also twisted in a weird way due to his Ironborn roots

    He’s seriously one of the best written characters in the book (as evidenced by all the discussion he fosters :)

  32. Autumn
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Has anyone seen the new video they posted? It’s called “new players” its on HBO onDemand and there is a TON of new footage:-)http://m.bwwtvworld.com/videoplay.cfm?colid=487050

  33. The DarkStar
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    Wanted to link to TYT episode video reviews.
    They are intelligent and blend show watchers being moderated by a book reader.
    The first episode review may have been a bit better cause it had Cenk in it who is a HUGE Mega fan, but they are both great.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gco6DRu2Yo&list=UUwTcFaOYFjIbxHjrmP0ptxw

  34. zaprowsdower
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Bran,

    I’m assuming you are referring to me since I was talking about Theon? I’ve read the books.

  35. kvothe
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    Alex,

    i always view larry’s review. he is fun.

  36. The Pain Yak
    Posted April 8, 2013 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    I am curious: was Larry Williams dropped from the list of non-book readers because he was getting more critical of the show? I hope that wasn’t the reason.

  37. Monstadon
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 2:11 am | Permalink

    AnimeRealTalkTV review is up!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyEXeHq9sRQ

  38. Caoimay
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    Hey you should include ‘ after elton’ episode recaps, that reviewer is hilarious

  39. Daniel
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    The Pain Yak,

    I’m guessing cause he’s not a recognized critic. His reviews are fun though.

  40. The Purist
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 9:52 am | Permalink

    So are we suppose to like Larry Williams now that he gave the show a good review or are we suppose to still hate him? I’m confuse…

    The Pain Yak,

    Not surprise he’s been dropped from the list. This site is pretty much like Talking Dead for Game of Thrones, so don’t expect to much negative reviews about the show. Must keep those tv show fundamentalist happy!

  41. Winter Is Coming
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    The Pain Yak:
    I am curious: was Larry Williams dropped from the list of non-book readers because he was getting more critical of the show? I hope that wasn’t the reason.

    No, that wasn’t the reason. It was because we felt his reviews weren’t really noteworthy any more. It was fun during the first season, but once the enthusiasm waned, he was just another fan giving his take on the episode. Which is great, we hope he continues reviewing each episode and those who enjoy his reviews continue watching them, we just felt it didn’t really fit with the rest of our recap list any more.

  42. Turncloak
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Andy Greenwald did not give a positive review for Episode 2 and he’s on this list :p. also the talking dead is awful

  43. All_Men_Must_Post
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Hodor. That’s my one sentence review of last Sunday’s episode. I think the common complaint from book and non-book readers alike is that there is just too much story in Game of Thrones to shove into one hour, let alone 10 hours, especially given the breadth of narrative in A Storm of Swords. I know D&D are splitting the book into season 3 and 4 (with some A Feast for Crows thrown into season 4) but I get the impression that the first two episodes are the apéritifs before a decadent meal. I’m not displeased but my stomach is growling. Four out of five stars.

    More here (so I don’t wall of text the forum)

  44. qwerty
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    larry’s reviews should absolutely be up there. the sad thing is that they will probably never be back because that would tantamount to admitting that his reviews are wanted here only when they are positive (which i believe to be be true regardless of predictable denials by the powers that be).

    whatever enjoyment i get from this site is spoilt by the silly fanboy tendency to only highlight positive reviews/news about the show.

    larry is easily one the most noteworthy reviewers of game of thrones, controversial as he may have become. you are doing yourselves a real disservice by ignoring him because you don’t like what he has been saying of late.

  45. Winter Is Coming
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    qwerty:
    larry’s reviews should absolutely be up there.the sad thing is that they will probably never be back because that would tantamount to admitting that his reviews are wanted here only when they are positive (which i believe to be be true regardless of predictable denials by the powers that be).

    whatever enjoyment i get from this site is spoilt by the silly fanboy tendency to only highlight positive reviews/news about the show.

    larry is easily one the most noteworthy reviewers of game of thrones, controversial as he may have become.you are doing yourselves a real disservice by ignoring him because you don’t like what he has been saying of late.

    As already pointed out, Andy Greenwald’s review is up there and his was less than positive this week. And Larry’s is not up there, even though this week it was positive. So your argument really falls apart right there.

  46. zaprowsdower
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    qwerty,

    No one is stopping anyone from continuing to watch Larry’s videos. They have already stated why he is no longer listed. There are many other popular reviewers that also aren’t. Talk about fanboy…

  47. The Purist
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,
    Winter Is Coming,

    I guess, you guys forgot I typed the word “much” when it comes to negative reviews. If you gathered the all the positive reviews to the ones that are negatives, you will probably find only a handful of the latter, compared to the overwhelming positives reviews of the show. Come on, let’s face it, this site is more fan service than providing critical analysis of the show, not that there’s anything wrong with that. That’s why I made the comparison with the Talking Dead on that one aspect. Before anyone gets confused, I like this site, where as the TD is just garbage, same with The Walking Dead, I mean you check my username? If I got gripes with GoT, imagine my list of complaints to TWD.

  48. afartherroom
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    There are thousands of amateurs on Youtube and on the various blog platforms who post weekly reviews of this show. They don’t get linked here either. It’s cool if people enjoy Larry Williams’s persona, but he’s neither a professional nor a particularly astute ‘reader’ of television, so I’m not sure why people think that he should be included in these lists when so many others are not. Frankly, I was puzzled by his inclusion for quite some time, and eventually concluded that he had to be be a personal friend of one of the site owners or something.

    I think that with link lists like this one, you always have to draw the line somewhere, and where the line is currently drawn seems a perfectly reasonable place to me. It’s quite easy to set up a subscription on Youtube if you want to make sure that you don’t miss any of Larry’s reviews.

  49. Steven Swanson
    Posted April 9, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    afartherroom: There are thousands of amateurs on Youtube and on the various blog platforms who post weekly reviews of this show. They don’t get linked here either. It’s cool if people enjoy Larry Williams’s persona, but he’s neither a professional nor a particularly astute ‘reader’ of television, so I’m not sure why people think that he should be included in these lists when so many others are not. Frankly, I was puzzled by his inclusion for quite some time, and eventually concluded that he had to be be a personal friend of one of the site owners or something.

    I think it’s because he was the first to garner a lot of attention on here during the first season, and since he was so entertaining and pretty much the archetypal excited newbie people wanted to keep watching him. I liked him early on but got sick of it, and I don’t think his reviews belong here either. It’s not like it’s difficult for anyone to find his reviews on youtube (or any other reviews for that matter).

  50. Jonathan
    Posted April 10, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Hey everyone, I just noticed today that the Penny Arcade Report has started doing reviews for this season, and the reviewer is a New Viewer! Maybe that should be added to the list as well?
    http://penny-arcade.com/report/tag/game+of+thrones

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