Ratings skyrocketing, the 5 million mark broken!
By Hear Me Roar on in News.

Business-Growth-GraphThe fifth episode of Game of Thrones on Sunday reached an astounding 5.3 million viewers during the initial airing, Hibberd reports.

UPDATE: He goes to add that the season up to now is averaging a record 13.4 million viewers per episode across all platforms!

TV by the Numbers now has the detailed rankings: 5.35 million at 9 PM (2.8 demo) and another 1.32 million at the 11 PM repeat! 6.67 million all told. The show left all NBA playoffs far behind.

Hear Me Roar: Wow, just wow. The numbers are rising faster and higher than we expected.


176 Comments

  1. Saark
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Grow strong….

  2. mead
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Hodor!

    Frikking heck 5.3!

  3. Matt S
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    So glad the show keeps breaking records, so deserving considering the amazing quality of episodes.

  4. Nick_Scryer
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Very nice! Hope it keeps going!

  5. OtherAndrew
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    5.3 million is better than True Blood hit all last year. GOT is now clearly HBO’s highest-rated show (as I said last week, but which people disputed).

  6. OhDanyBoy
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Another 1.4 in the second showing. Weekly averages for the year are 13.4 million, well over the 11 million of last year.

  7. TJeff
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Wow, never thought that will happen so soon. Will the viewership reach 6 mil at the end of S3?

  8. Ser Tahu
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    Just as a point of comparison, the highest all time rating for the first airing of a True Blood episode, according to Wikipedia, is 5.53 million for season 4 episode 9. It looks as though Game of Thrones will surpass this before the season is done. :D

    TJeff,
    as awesome as that would be, my prediction is 5.75 million, with the 6 million milestone falling on the episode after Joffrey’s weddin next season.

  9. Belwas's Stool
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    The crazy thing is the best is yet to come. The last half of this season and all of next will be amazing.

  10. sunspear
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Game of Thrones, shattering expectations into a thousand, thousand pieces.

    OtherAndrew,

    Yep, no dispute anymore. GoT is a force of nature.

  11. wargsareawesome
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Gods be good!

  12. zzz
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Dam

  13. Villane
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Ok HBO, you’ve got a monster hit on your hands. Let’s give everyone a raise and up the budget for next season. D&D deserve it.

  14. greg
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    Does this mean the shows gonna be renewed for 25 seasons?

  15. GeekFurious
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Aaaaaaaaand… this number is completely meaningless to the future of the show since all HBO cares about is total viewers, not the amount of viewers who tuned in “live” at 9pm.

    The truly important number is the 12-14 million who watch any given episode over the next year.

  16. Turncloak
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Unbowed, Unbent, Record BROKEN!

  17. Maxwell James
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    13.4 million weekly is pretty impressive – that there’s Walking Dead numbers. Has TB ever exceeded that, even at its peak?

    Pretty funny that HBO’s “Break” also scored higher than the NBA playoffs. Though it is still the first round.

  18. Gatehouse Ami
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Congrats! Huzzah! Cheek kisses and wine!
    That was well struck.

  19. ASOIAF Fan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    That’s the ratings i had hoped we’d get for the premiere, i’m really happy we didn’t have to wait for the season finale to get them.
    13.4M for weekly average is a damn good number too.
    I hope HBO realize that they have a real winner here and that they won’t be reluctant when asked for more budget, the show is big enough to support other less succesful projects as long as the quality stays top-notch.

  20. greg
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    Every week with this guy

  21. Nick_Scryer
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    I like you boy, but if you don’t stop posting the same thing on every ratings post, I’ll pull your guts out through your throat :)

  22. Delta1212
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:47 am | Permalink

    What’s the largest jump in ratings from episode to episode that we’ve seen so far since Game of Thrones first premiered?

  23. Seriano
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    Aaaaand you’re still boring as hell.

  24. SerKenjiGerrard
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    “Grow Strong” indeed… So proud of this show…

  25. Delta1212
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    And, as someone who doesn’t have a Nielsen box, my watching Game of Thrones is pretty irrelevant to the future of the show.

    But I still watch it because it’s entertaining. Sometimes it’s nice to view things for fun whether it has any larger meaning or not.

  26. jasonw
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    dude, we get it. How about you just dont get on WiC on tuesdays. Most everyone here likes getting this news. I much prefer the numbers going up than if they were going down

  27. Villane
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Just to give an anecdote about how popular the show really is: Last week I went to have lunch with my girlfriend’s mom and her flock of hens in small town Tennessee. Somewhere along the way, Game of Thrones came up and it turned out they were fans. It was a bunch of 60+ year-old women gossiping about Joffrey and Jon Snow. Was grateful as it turned the topic of conversation away from my political leanings and religious beliefs.

  28. Hollyoak
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Can we get some context to this news in regard to other hit shows–HBO or otherwise?

    It’s kind of hard to figure out how huge this is.

    Is this a bigger audience than Walking Dead gets? Or True Blood? Or Boardwalk Empire?

    Thanks

  29. Yago
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Ow yeah.

  30. jasonw
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:55 am | Permalink
  31. Kevin
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    awesome news. season 3 is the best season so far

  32. Michelle
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    As someone who has recruited several of those new viewers, I say WOOT!!!

  33. ASOIAF Fan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Delta1212,

    Between episodes it would be between episode 9 and the finale last season, but episode 9 saw a drop in ratings and the difference with the previous serie high was less than the growth this week.

    Between 2 serie high it would be between season 1 finale and season 2 premiere.

    Between 2 serie high without a seasonal break it’s this episode.

  34. Maxwell James
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Hollyoak,

    It’s definitely bigger than Boardwalk Empire (which admittedly has a lot of overnight competition thanks to football). But last year Boardwalk averaged 7.6 million weekly views per episode, well behind GoT.

    It also seems to be well ahead of True Blood at this point, which at the end of last season was averaging 11.3 million views per episode.

    And it’s arguably neck-and-neck with the Walking Dead, whose seven day ratings as of last November were 13.4 million views per episode. Of course, TWD’s overnights are much higher, but that’s significantly due to the differences between AMC’s and HBO’s business models.

  35. Caoimay
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Im so glad for david and dan! And everyone who works on the show!
    :-) It would be amazing to be the most watched cable show, are we close does anyone know

  36. ATG
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Fantastic news

  37. arden
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    aaaaaaaand… you’re still annoying

  38. Jentario
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    I’m happy that THIS episode got that many views. It’s likely to keep people coming. And the season is bound to just get better and better! the wall climbing scene for episode 6, the bear for 7, Sansa’s wedding for episode 8, RW for 9 and hopefully PW for 10 (though there is plenty evidence for and against it happening this season).

  39. Villane
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Caoimay,

    Walking Dead is the most watched cable show, and I think they pull in about 11-12 million an episode. That number is out of reach for us, sadly. But, we can rejoice at being the most watched pay cable show.

  40. Diego
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    Another high! So well deserved! The season is until now completely amazing!

  41. gswelcome
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    I’ll give this my stamp of approval. The show will only get better as well this season and in Season 4 as well. After that… D&D may need to do some tweeks but that is far in the future :)

  42. Johan Sporre
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    That’s quite impressive, and with the traditional late-season increases I think we’ll break 6 million by the finale, if not earlier.
    How high weekly averages did The Sopranos have?

  43. arden
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Villane,

    This number.. the 5 millions is only for the 9 pm viewing. Total views per week are around the walking dead level or past it

  44. superkick
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Boredwalk should just be cancelled and its budget given to GoT. Show sucks anyways.

  45. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Hollyoak:
    Can we get some context to this news in regard to other hit shows–HBO or otherwise?

    It’s kind of hard to figure out how huge this is.

    Is this a bigger audience than Walking Dead gets? Or True Blood? Or Boardwalk Empire?

    Thanks

    EDITED: Maxwell James’ answer is better.

  46. sCor
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Wow, just wow. I remember when I heard about this show in a preview some 6 month before the pilot aired. I thought it sounded interesting. I never imagined it would turn into this monster. I love it!

  47. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    superkick:
    Boredwalk should just be cancelled and its budget given to GoT.Show sucks anyways.

    Uh, no. Boardwalk Empire is an amazing television show, and along with Game of Thrones (and Mad Men, Justified, Breaking Bad, and a few other shows) is one of the best series on television. Even if Boardwalk were cancelled, GoT would never be “given” its budget. And it’s not as if GoT needs a massive budget increase, as it is. If D&D can keep the budget within the realm that it is now, that’s just more insurance for the show to last for the entirety of the story it has to tell.

  48. Sandsnake
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    I can only see the rating growing from here on. For me this is already the best season of the show and we are only half way through. Each of the next 5 episodes should have at least 1 massive event taking place that will keep viewers hooked. I would expect the rest of the seasons major scenes to look something like this:

    Episode 6: Jon and the wildlings climb the wall
    Episode 7: Jaime and Brienne vs the bear
    Episode 8: Wedding of Sansa and Tyrion
    Episode 9: The Red Wedding and Queenscrown
    Episode 10: The Siege of Yunkai

  49. Juego de Tronos
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Like the Tyrell, the show are ‘Growing Strong’

  50. Villane
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    arden,

    Walking Dead also has encore episodes and OnDemand viewers, the 11-12 million that watch are just for the initial airing, so it’s total viewership is still a lot higher. But, waaaay more people have access to it. Given that GoT is pay cable, we can be immensely proud of where we’re at.

  51. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Nick_Scryer,

    Har! :P

  52. Maxwell James
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Villane,

    See my earlier link – they are neck-and-neck. I’m as surprised as you are, but apparently TWD’s audience is just far more front-loaded than GoT’s.

  53. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    superkick:
    Boredwalk should just be cancelled and its budget given to GoT.Show sucks anyways.

    Boardwalk has never really sucked me in, but the whole budget thing doesn’t work that way anyway.

    The money would be spent on something to replace BE’s hours, of course. And while it might be cheaper than BE, what we should really be rooting for is that plenty of HBO’s tentpole shows are profitable.

    GoT will be canceled when it is no longer profitable itself — regardless of what BE does now, I think. But HBO could try to squeeze it for profit by reducing the budget if they are otherwise losing money. Or if the subscriber base reduces, GoT may find its ratings and profits going down simply because it isn’t enough to draw an HBO subscription from people on their own.

    Which is a roundabout way of saying that GoT is more likely to get a budget bump if shows like BE are successful than if they fail.

  54. Isabelle
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    How exciting!!! And very well-deserved! Thrones has definitely proven hugely successful for HBO–wasn’t it noted a while back that it’s also the biggest source of revenue in terms of merchandise as well?

    Villane,

    Lol, that sounds like quite a fun lunch party. What was the conversation mostly about–plot, characters, predictions, or just general chatter?

  55. Croccifixio
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    just to hammer things out to those who chime in weekly in this kind of thread to be killjoys,

    yes, we know the numbers doesnt actually that relevant

    yes, we like to compare it with other shows even if it is like comparing apples and oranges but it is the number of viewers and numbers are statistics and its fun comparing statistics even, to stress it again, it is not that actually relevant

    just please give us this small pleasure.

    it is normal for people to want other people to take interests on their interests. and it is nice to see our favorite shows garner more viewers. even if it doesnt matter that the viewers rise, IT STILL MATTERS IF THE NUMBER PLUMMET. and lord know what HBO will do if, knock on wood, an episode of GOT will have only a million viewers. i wanna hear people argue that THAT scenario is still irrelevant.

    have a nice day, also, still can’t stop rewatching the bathtub scene. SO GOOD!

  56. Zack
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Well I’ll be damned, that’s wonderful news that I did not expect until the end of the season. I think all bets are off at this point, as unpredictable as this was I wouldn’t be surprised if next week’s numbers are down again or up even higher.

  57. Hear Me Roar
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Johan Sporre,

    Sadly, I think these numbers don’t exist. In any case, in those days there was practically no on demand viewing, and the shows were less elegant to record :) this made the “appointment” television momentum much stronger (despite repeats). The Sopranos reportedly averaged even around 10 million per initial airing in later seasons.

  58. Ser Hound
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Alan,

    Boardwalk is an incredible show. For me it’s up there with GoT, Breaking Bad, and Mad Men. I admit, it takes a few episodes to get really into, but by the second season I was hooked. The details of the sets and their devotion to historical accuracy is incredible. Also, great writing, acting, and character development. It deals with all the political issues of the time brilliantly as well. If you’re into gangster movies at all (Godfather, Goodfellas, Miller’s Crossing), it’s up there with the best, IMO. Steve Buscemi kills it, but Jack Huston really steals the show as a horribly disfigured war veteran turned assassin. GoT is better (obviously), but I really hope Boardwalk lasts a few more seasons at least.

  59. Delirium
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    I think it will surpass after the RW episode (The Rains of Castamere) hits the screen. You’ll see.
    Ser Tahu,

  60. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Plenty of evidence against. No evidence for.

  61. Hear Me Roar
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Maxwell James,

    I guess it’s easier to catch up on a show or a missed episode at HBO than at AMC?

  62. Matt
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Villane,

    Hear Frikkin Hear!

  63. Al Swearengen
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    :-D

  64. Queen Arya
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Nice to see the high ratings!

    These numbers are exclusively US viewers, right? Anyone have a guess for number of viewers outside the US?

  65. Hollyoak
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, all for the answers about ratings and putting it in context. This is great news!

  66. Balerion
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    This show will go on record as being the most succesful of all time.

  67. Dana
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    superkick,

    ummm on crack?

  68. samurai99
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Villane,

    I bet if they were to include the international viewers from Sky Atlantic and other channels, we would easily beat TWD.

  69. mags giantsbabe
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Oh, OH, Yeeeeesssss, let’s all just, for a while, be completely happy for this. All men must die, but first… Hodor!

  70. dizzy
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    superkick:
    Boredwalk should just be cancelled and its budget given to GoT.Show sucks anyways.

    It far from “sucks”. I love GoT and want good things for it, but most of the other shows on the network are high quality. BE is their fall line-up show and probably will be for a while.

  71. Beric
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Great to see the ratings steadily increase. This season has been terrific so far and seems to get better by the week.

    I am happy that the show producers and writers have taken liberties with the story, so far, as I think that after Storm of Swords they are going to need to keep things interesting. It is not that I didn’t like AFFC or ADWD, but they were extremely slow paced compared to ASOS.

  72. lonas
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    It so much broke records that there was a “flood” on thepiratbay yesterday and the 100 torrents from kissed by fire were all down, 0 seeders and 0 leechers. I had to stream it . damm

    yuuhuhuhuhuhuhu

  73. Spryte
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Amazing, so glad the show’s getting the attention it deserves. We’ve come a long way. Hope the ratings keep going up!

  74. Throner69
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    I know people keep calling him James Bond Bolton, but does anybody else think he looks more like Vladimir Putin?

  75. john
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    lol @ the westeros.org nerdragers is all I have to say.

  76. Loki
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Good thing. Maybe they’ll do a better job next season with such numbers.

  77. john
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    lol @ Loki the nerdrager is all I have to say.

  78. Jim
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Ser Hound,

    Horribly disfigured war veteran turned assassin turned incredible wuss and waste of a potentially interesting character, you mean

  79. Maxwell James
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar,

    Yes, by design. AMC does not repeat their shows anywhere near as often as HBO does. They want to get people watching the first screening in order to maximize ad revenue.

  80. JamesL
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    As great as this weeks episode was, the ratings with probably dip a bit next week because it didn’t have the shocking or exciting ending like the previous weeks. Thats what usually causes the spikes in the ratings.

  81. Robbet
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Much much faster than I expected!!! Great news!

  82. Samson
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Holy crap that is impressive! Throughout my 2+ years of lurking on this site and very occasionally posting there has been a fairly consistent pattern to the rating and our expectation/hopes.

    First, we will list our predictions for what the ratings will be, and these predictions will be significantly higher than what the actual ratings turn out to be. But when the real ratings are released we try and convince ourselves and each other that “oh this is great! It doesn’t matter that we are well over a million short of what we predicted, these numbers are great!”. We are all disappointed on the inside, but instead we put on a brave face and say everything is going just as well as we had wanted.

    But now rather than us being overly optimistic about what the show’s numbers will be, they are surpassing our expectations!!

    Awesome!!

  83. Ser Hound
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Jim,

    Ummm, did you see the season 3 finale? The most badass action sequence of the entire show. Hardly a “wuss” and still one of the best emotional character arcs of the season.

  84. David the Grey
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Season 3 might be a good one for HBO to release to BR/DVD a bit earlier than normal, to get that many more people hooked into Season 4 and keep the ratings going up! I just can’t imagine people not tuning in after this kind of a season.

    Or has that impact been minimized by the amount of piracy? I haven’t followed the topic, really, I’m just hoping for an earlier BR/DVD release because the sooner I’ll be able to watch the extras!!!

  85. DH87
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar: Sadly, I think these numbers don’t exist.

    Yes, in those days, HBO’s Neilsen’s included everything showing on all of its channels simultaneously, rather than the Sopranos alone, and there were, I believe, twice as many HBO subscribers as there are now. For the post-Soprano world, this is a terrific showing. But, at the risk of being branded GeekFurious’s mother-in-law: True Blood costs only half as much as GOT to produce so is, and always will be, more profitable.

  86. Zack
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    David the Grey,

    Don’t expect them to change their disc release schedule. Look at the top of the page again. It’s not like they don’t have guys at HBO getting a paycheck at least in part for their advice on release timing, and the strategy seems to be working for them. Every season builds upon the previous, episodes build on last week’s episode…where’s the incentive for them to change what’s working? Releasing the disc just prior to the next season allows them to time their marketing to impact both disc sales and drive interest in the upcoming season at the same time, instead of having to do each one individually.

  87. JamesL
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Even S1 didn’t see ratings jumps like this. S1 the live ratings went from 2.2m to 3m by the end. The fact that the S3 ratings have spiked so much in just a few episodes is really impressive. S2 they were steady all season until the finale. Never expected GoT to get this big but it is great to see. I wonder if the season finale can break 6m.

  88. David the Grey
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    Good point, I guess releasing too early would just cause a lot of folks to be annoyed having to wait for S4 to start and might lose interest.

  89. James
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    DH87True Blood costs only half as much as GOT to produce so is, and always will be, more profitable.

    HBO has been quoted (recently) as saying that GoT is HBO’s most profitable show. So, you’re wrong. While it is impossible for *us* to say, they surely know what they are talking about.

    (You’re forgetting BluRay and DVD sales where GoT wipes the floor with TB, as well as international rights where GoT blows every other HBO show out of the water).

  90. NewJeffCT
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    So, with the excellent ratings, does that mean they’ll have an increased budget for next year (and beyond)?

    We still have the Purple Wedding, the Battle for the Wall, with Stannis’ arrival, Dany’s conquest of Meereen, the Mountain vs the Red Viper, the Hound vs Gregor’s men, etc, as big events for season 4.

  91. Jim
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Ser Hound,

    Yeah I’ve seen every episode. Season 3 had one of the absolute worst, most boring episodes of any TV show I’ve ever seen. That Easter episode felt like it lasted 3 hours.

    Harrow went from being potential badass to a cliched brooding, tormented wuss. That show has a way of completely letting you down for ten episodes then making the last two good enough that you say “Yeah I guess I’ll keep watching,” then they just do it again.

  92. DH87
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Zack: Releasing the disc just prior to the next season allows them to time their marketing to impact both disc sales and drive interest in the upcoming season at the same time, instead of having to do each one individually.

    Exactly. This is HBO’s strategy for all its tentpole shows so it, along with offering a free weekend to a large chunk of the country for the season-primiere episode, must work in terms of generating subscriptions.

  93. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    JamesL:
    As great as this weeks episode was, the ratings with probably dip a bit next week because it didn’t have the shocking or exciting ending like the previous weeks.Thats what usually causes the spikes in the ratings.

    People always say this, but there’s really no evidence of this at all. Other people have done more detailed posts, but the prior episode’s quality level or cliffhangerness doesn’t have a strong correlation.

  94. DH87
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    James,

    Right—I was thinking strictly of the subscription side. Thanks for the reminder, although I think DVD and blu-ray sales continue to sink across the industry, don’t they?

  95. NewbiesBreedingUsOut
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Looks like what we think, the book-readers, isn’t going to be worth a grain of salt soon. (if it ever was).
    All these ratings rises must be unsullied who are thinking “what is this show I keep hearing about?”….then watching and getting hooked.
    So for the extreme book purists who are going to have an aneurysm as the show strays further off course……relax, you cant stop it.

  96. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    DH87: Yes, in those days, HBO’s Neilsen’s included everything showing on all of its channels simultaneously, rather than the Sopranos alone, and there were, I believe, twice as many HBO subscribers as there are now. For the post-Soprano world, this is a terrific showing. But, at the risk of being branded GeekFurious’s mother-in-law: True Blood costs only half as much as GOT to produce so is, and always will be, more profitable.

    For Season 5 and beyond, the methodology was split. HBO still had a larger subscriber base, but Nielsen was not longer counting HBO as a block.

    In season 5, the Sopranos did 9.8M average on the initial airing, peaking at just over 12M. That’s not a total views, just the initial airing. So in one respect, GoT is pulling just over half of the Sopranos in comparative terms.

    Except that’s not really fair, either. In addition to HBO’s declining subscriber base, DVRs were still a luxury item in 2005, not standard in homes. Internet pirating was much less prevalent. Competition on non-subscription cable was practically non-existent in this area. HBO GO did not exist. Nor did Netflix or Hulu, etc, which open up competition not just to current shows on at that time but any show ever made, really.

    In other words, just like it’s ridiculous to post network ratings now against the pre-cable days, it’s tough to match GoT to the Sopranos.

  97. Villane
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle,

    Just general chatter. I didn’t think they were quite ready for R+L=J.

    samurai99,

    I bet you’re right. Game of Thrones might be the most popular show in the world right now. I bet Downton Abbey is right up there though. Trying to think of other contenders.

  98. sunaeryn
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    This season deserves the ratings hike. Apart from perhaps the first episode, it’s been stellar, with each episode proving better than the last.

    Congrats.

  99. Hear Me Roar
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James,

    Right. So that explains the frontloading … It’s great that a premium cable show matches the total viewer numbers of a hugely successful (ratings wise) basic cable one.

  100. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    DH87:
    James,

    Right—I was thinking strictly of the subscription side. Thanks for the reminder, although I think DVD and blu-ray sales continue to sink across the industry, don’t they?

    Last I saw, Blu Ray was up, DVD way down, Digital Up and overall after market sales up.

  101. Ryan E
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    NewbiesBreedingUsOut: Looks like what we think, the book-readers, isn’t going to be worth a grain of salt soon. (if it ever was).All these ratings rises must be unsullied who are thinking “what is this show I keep hearing about?”….then watching and getting hooked.So for the extreme book purists who are going to have an aneurysm as the show strays further off course……relax, you cant stop it.

    Not really. Alot of the new viewers are also book readers. Almost everyone I have convinced to read the books or watch the show have both read and watched at this point. The books have sold like crazy since the show came on – the two compound on each other to create ever more readers and watchers.

  102. JamesL
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Alan,

    No, the ratings jumps are usually always correlated with the exciting or shocking cliffhanger type endings and there is tons of evidence for it not just for GoT but other shows as well. The ratings were relatively steady during S2 but the few spikes it got were after Ep4 and Ep 7 both ending with cliff hanger ending with the shadow birth and then the “death” of Bran and Rickon.

  103. JamesL
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar,

    I don’t believe GoT is nearly as popular as TWD. Either the overall viewership for TWD has been under reported or HBO exaggerates the overall viewership of their shows. I know premium cable is different and they repeat more and HBOGo and stuff but I don’t see how GoT can more than double almost triple its live viewership while TWD can only grow about a million or 2 after live viewership. I don’t even like the TWD but it seems like everyone watches it, sadly it does not seem that way with GoT. Just take a look at the Facebook likes for GoT and TWD. TWD has 16m likes because it is massive phenomenon and GoT has almost 6m. GoT is not as popular as the TWD, not in America at least.

  104. Isabelle
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Villane: Just general chatter. I didn’t think they were quite ready for R+L=J.

    Indeed! It’s probably best you didn’t go down that road–you may have been at that table until dinnertime!

  105. ShadowStalker
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    At this pace they will break TrueBloods peak number (5.53)

  106. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Cite please.

    Shows show peaks at premiere and finale.

  107. john
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    JamesL:
    Hear Me Roar,

    I don’t believe GoT is nearly as popular as TWD. Either the overall viewership for TWD has been under reported or HBO exaggerates the overall viewership of their shows. I know premium cable is different and they repeat more and HBOGo and stuff but I don’t see how GoT can more than double almost triple its live viewership while TWD can only grow about a million or 2 after live viewership. I don’t even like the TWD but it seems like everyone watches it, sadly it does not seem that way with GoT. Just take a look at the Facebook likes for GoT and TWD. TWD has 16m likes because it is massive phenomenon and GoT has almost 6m. GoT is not as popular as the TWD, not in America at least.

    TWD has more viewers when it airs, no doubt about that.

    But GoT sells more Blu-Rays/DVDS afaik and is more popular overseas. Last year GoT was the most pirated show in the world, miles ahead of TWD.

    I absolutely think that GoT is a bigger popular culture phenomenon than TWD. I see a lot more references to GoT (winter is coming etc) everywhere. Probably because GoT is 10x the quality of TWD. I have actually watched TWD and I simply don’t get what’s so special about the show. It’s mediocre.

  108. MUGger
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Since GoT has competitive numbers with The Walking Dead, isn’t it time for HBO to air its own post-show recap like “Talking Dead”? WiC could host a gab-fest with all the celebs who are into the show, talk about Westeros history, etc.

  109. Maxwell James
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    All HBO shows double or triple their initial viewership. Why else do you think they repeat each new episode 10X or more over the course of a week? There would be no good reason to do that unless the shows kept adding viewers.

    As for the claim that HBO exaggerates the numbers – I seriously doubt it. The weekly totals they announce are aggregated from the Nielsen reports for each presentation of the show. Most Nielsen numbers are made public, and those that are not are still available to insiders throughout the industry. If they exaggerated the numbers their competitors would catch on – & it would be quite scandalous.

    Finally – yes, TWD has a huge number of Facebook likes. But other measures of online activity show GoT on par with it or slightly ahead. For instance, Google Trends.

  110. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Not disagreeing with you but in the UK Game of Thrones has approximately 1.5 times as many viewers as the walking dead. But the numbers in the UK are naturally much smaller than the US – 700,000.

  111. zod
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    GOT is more popular worldwide. Check the number of votes on IMDb or the number of views for their trailers on Youtube.

    Or, ask Google: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=fr_FR&word1=%22game+of+thrones%22&word2=%22walking+dead%22

  112. telobsidion
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    While I certainly hope the numbers keep rising each week, it’s likely it’ll taper off at some point before spiking again near the finale. If the spike this week was in response to the big climax last week and we do see a drop for Ep.6, I hope the show can hold itself over the 5 million mark. I’ll see that as an accomplishment.

  113. Villane
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    MUGger,

    I would LOVE that! Breaking Bad is starting one in August called Talkimg Bad. Hopefully it’ll be successful and HBO will follow suit

  114. Anguissette1979
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Can we please see an update of the ratings graph you guys did showing other HBO shows?

  115. Ace
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    The NBA playoff comparison is not really relevant since the game being played was an absolute blowout that led to a sweep; all of the Lakers stars were either injured or got ejected in the game.

  116. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    zod,

    Lol, Game of Thrones is apparently three times more popular than Lady Gaga. Heck – I’m struggling to find anything more popular than it! It beats James Bond, Obama, Lost..!

    OMG…it even beats Justin Bieber!

  117. The Kingslayer
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    season 3 is much better than season 2, so i’m not shocked about these numbers

  118. The Kingslayer
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    and NCW should get an Emmy for this season. Jaime is the best in the show

  119. Nikola S
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Considering how much praise and buzz last weeks episode got, this is not surprising at all. I was expecting the ratings to go up by a significant number.

    It will be interesting to see what happens to the numbers from this week to next week, as the latest episode didnt really have a huge dramatic scene like Daenerys had in last weeks episode.

    The latest episode was really good, but this time I dont expect the ratings to increase, maybe even a little decrease.

  120. mariamb18
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer:
    and NCW should get an Emmy for this season. Jaime is the best in the show

    While there is no correlation between ratings and the Emmys, I hope that GOT gets greater Emmy-love this year.

    Agree about NCW – he is killing it this year.

  121. WildSeed
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    How sweet the sound of That ! Wowee *>*

  122. Ghost
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious:
    Aaaaaaaaand… this number is completely meaningless to the future of the show since all HBO cares about is total viewers, not the amount of viewers who tuned in “live” at 9pm.

    The truly important number is the 12-14 million who watch any given episode over the next year.

    You come on here every week to complain that “the numbers mean nothing and blah blah Im so sad.” We get it. You wanna be that super cool kid that goes against everyone else and doesnt care about the numbers. Your act is old and pretty annoying at this point. Everyone else likes seeing these numbers, all you have to do is stop coming into this thread every week.

  123. WildSeed
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    MUGger:
    Since GoT has competitive numbers with The Walking Dead, isn’t it time for HBO to air its own post-show recap like “Talking Dead”? WiC could host a gab-fest with all the celebs who are into the show, talk about Westeros history, etc.

    Why not WinterPhil, et.al, cancel their day jobs and start a weekly televised Podcast,
    with the description you gave (?). The name could be ” Game of Owns” or
    whatever.

  124. Mashiara
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Villane:
    Caoimay,

    Walking Dead is the most watched cable show, and I think they pull in about 11-12 million an episode. That number is out of reach for us, sadly. But, we can rejoice at being the most watched pay cable show.

    …aaand the most pirated show in the history of all pirated shows…

  125. NewJeffCT
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    Talking Thrones would be great -have it hosted by Simone Boyce and/or another comedian together.

    Talking Dead has great ratings and brings on a lot of celeb guests. You could do similar with GoT.

  126. WildSeed
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Alan: For Season 5 and beyond, the methodology was split.HBO still had a larger subscriber base, but Nielsen was not longer counting HBO as a block.

    In season 5, the Sopranos did 9.8M average on the initial airing, peaking at just over 12M. That’s not a total views, just the initial airing. So in one respect, GoT is pulling just over half of the Sopranos in comparative terms.

    Except that’s not really fair, either. In addition to HBO’s declining subscriber base, DVRs were still a luxury item in 2005, not standard in homes. Internet pirating was much less prevalent. Competition on non-subscription cable was practically non-existent in this area. HBO GO did not exist. Nor did Netflix or Hulu, etc, which open up competition not just to current shows on at that time but any show ever made, really.

    In other words, just like it’s ridiculous to post network ratings now against the pre-cable days, it’s tough to match GoT to the Sopranos.

    Well considered points Alan.

    To add, in the days of less fragmented Cable Channel lineups, HBO was not considered
    a Premium Subscription channel. It was included in my then Standard price. Now
    of course, there are several Premium Channels, charged separately, and too
    expensive to subscribe as a full package. Many people opted out, got their
    buddies to tap into the Network illegally, or just gave up. I gave up, and
    missed out on the Soprano seasons as they occurred, but purchased the DVD’s many
    years later. Subscriptions had to suffer, but I’m sure the show was watched by an
    infinite number of fans. With Satellite or other Digital choices , the numbers swelled
    a bit.Those options still haven’t affected the generation of those that prefer the sweet
    taste of FREE product. And for every one of them, there is a % that does not
    believe in purchasing DVD’s at all. I can afford now to subscribe to 3 Premium
    channels plus the HD, I choose to enjoy what I watch and support the show.

    * edit : I saw a portion of the Sopranos before the change up.

  127. WildSeed
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Maxwell James:
    Hear Me Roar,

    Yes, by design. AMC does not repeat their shows anywhere near as often as HBO does. They want to get people watching the first screening in order to maximize ad revenue.

    I subscribe to AMC. I enjoy the frequent repeats during the week, and occasionally
    watch their series marathons. It so frequent that I’ve not researched their On
    Demand feature, if there is one.Sometimes these options are region or locally
    regulated. I live in the N West.

  128. zod
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Family, Duty, Hodor,

    Yeah.. Googlefight is kinda messed up, actually.

    Anyway: “game of thrones” Google search: 622.000.000 results. “walking dead” Google search: 457.000.000 results.

    That being said, “walking dead” is also the name of the comics, and “game of thrones” is also the name of the first book of ASOIAF… So, using the number of results provided by Google to compare the popularity of the two shows wasn’t really a great idea to begin with. My bad.

  129. JamesL
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    zod,

    I can definitely believe that GoT is more popular world wide than TWD but google search trends aren’t necessarily proof of that. A lot of that has to do with the extremely passionate and obsessive fan base GoT has.

  130. kvothe
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    NewbiesBreedingUsOut,

    u r wrong my frnd. book readers are increasing more than new tv viewers. do you follow book sales of game of thrones? i do. since last 3 month the 4 books set of game of thrones is ranked with in top ten on amazon. last month it was with in top five.new tv viewers turning book reader and liking it more plus new book readers turning into tv viewers. so circles!! grrm is printing cash right now!

  131. young stark
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Fuck yea..king of the north!!!!

  132. MUGger
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Or “Behind The Throne” – it could have segments like “Winter Has Come” (cast members killed that week); the “Inside Game of Thrones” for the most recent episode; “Podrick’s Peers” (cast members who shed their clothes that week); and, of course, “Game of Tweets”.

  133. James
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    JamesL:
    zod,
    I can definitely believe that GoT is more popular world wide than TWD but google search trends aren’t necessarily proof of that. A lot of that has to do with the extremely passionate and obsessive fan base GoT has.

    You cite Facebook “likes” and then turn around and try to claim Google search trends aren’t relevant?

    They’re both different metrics for the general “buzz” a show has. Anyone who doubts that there is strong correlation or believes the books are muddling the search results can easily match the spikes in searches to episode airing dates. Someone want to try and convince me that the reason “Game of Thrones” as a search term spiked to its highest total ever on April 1st, the day after the S3 premiere, was because of a book released in 1996?

  134. Ser Hound
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Jim,

    Hmmm. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I thoroughly enjoyed the whole season, even with the slower episodes. I thought both Nucky and Richard’s arcs were both compelling and well developed. I’m sorry you are not enjoying it.

  135. Ser Hound
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    The Kingslayer,

    This.

    While the bath scene seemed to be the epitome of great acting, I think he’s only going to get better in the next few episodes. I can’t wait for the bear!

  136. Jon
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    I have seen this in print before but I wanted to say it again in this thread. I think episode 9 is going to break the internet. I am looking forward to seeing the Twitter whale that night.

  137. garyd
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    I like both shows to be honest, but GOT is by far my favorite. I live in the UK and there is a lot more buzz and attention towards GOT than TWD. Many of my friends who are not geeks like myself all watch GOT, apart from myself I don’t know many people who watch TWD.

  138. DH87
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    Alan: Last I saw, Blu Ray was up, DVD way down, Digital Up and overall after market sales up.

    Yes. This was the article I was recollecting—total sell-through for all formats was down 8.4 percent and trending down, but I don’t think first quarter 2013 figures are out yet. You may have seen something more recent.

    http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/consumer-spending-on-home-video-fell-1-5-in-q4-deg/

  139. Summer Is Coming
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Wow! This season really doesn’t follow any pattern! 1 million growth from ep 1 to ep 5…. that is something!

  140. sunspear
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    MUGger:
    Since GoT has competitive numbers with The Walking Dead, isn’t it time for HBO to air its own post-show recap like “Talking Dead”? WiC could host a gab-fest with all the celebs who are into the show, talk about Westeros history, etc.

    I doubt it. AMC sells advertising, so Talking Dead can make a lot of money for them, but HBO sells subscriptions. They aren’t going to get any more subscriptions for making a GoT talk show, but they will with Veep and Vice.

    Re: The emmy’s:

    Game of Thrones won 5 technical arts emmy’s last year, tied boardwalk for another, and got nominated for Best supporting actor and Best Drama. It’s the Golden Globes that need to get their bloody act together.

  141. jkb
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    fuckin’ A!

  142. WildSeed
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    MUGger,

    Nice!

  143. Mike Chair
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Hurray! /

    Hey HBO, congratulations.

    Now, how about more episodes per season?

  144. Easteros bunny
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Cool!

  145. I'm Unsullied
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair:
    Hurray!/

    Hey HBO, congratulations.

    Now, how about more episodes per season?

    I’d like that too but then the show would pass the books, and that would just stink.

  146. DH87
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    I’m Unsullied: I’d like that too but then the show would pass the books, and that would just stink.

    Not to mention that D&D said they can’t produce any more episodes on a schedule that would meet HBO’s needs.

  147. Delta1212
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair:
    Hurray!/

    Hey HBO, congratulations.

    Now, how about more episodes per season?

    That’s less a matter of money or restrictions placed by HBO and more a matter of production time. They have three (sometimes four) crews shooting simultaneously around the world and it still takes them the full year to produce the ten episodes we get. And that’s with them overlapping post-production and writing next year’s scripts.

  148. Delta1212
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar:
    Maxwell James,

    I guess it’s easier to catch up on a show or a missed episode at HBO than at AMC?

    Premium cable channel shows, and HBO’s in particular, are extremely easy to catch up on (if you’re a subscriber). They don’t have to worry about ad revenue so they can repeat episodes as nauseum, and they make the shows available in a variety of alternative forms through on demand and online. People pay them for access to their content, so the channels that provide the most convenient access do better and the economic pressure is pointing towards allowing people to see whatever they want whenever they want.

    The opposite is true for network and basic cable channels. They’re not paid for their content; they’re paid by the number of eyeballs they can get on a screen. The economic pressure there is to make it as difficult as possible for people to view the content so the people will have to watch it at the appointed time and maximize the number of viewers for the hour.

    And even among network and basic cable channels, AMC is probably one of the most difficult to catch up during the season. If you want to do it legally, you basically have to wait for the show to come out on DVD and Netflix, which happens closer to the start of the next season than the end of the last one.

  149. Joni
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Great to hear. I know these are not the numbers that count for HBO (that much at least) but, for me the numbers are the most expected news after the show it self. And these numbers are more than i hope. Thank you D&D!

  150. EricOF
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    It IS time for 12-episode seasons now.

  151. Arthur
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 6:40 pm | Permalink

    Wow, this is awesome news. I didn’t think we would see these kinds of numbers until the finale…

    I just hope the numbers stay consistent. I hope HBO executives are happy with this and increase the CGI budget over the seasons. Because as all us bookreaders know, as the story goes on more and more epic CGI scenes will be needed…

    In 4-5 years from now, when Dany has to stare down Drogon in the pit and then mounts him for the first time. It will be so important for top rate CGI. I hope HBO dishes out the money for this.

    There will be so many epic and expensive scenes if GoT runs its full course… Just hope HBO is 100% behind it and grants a bigger buget when needed (like they did for Blackwater).

    With these ratins numbers and the constant media buzz, I highly doubt the HBO executives wouldn’t grant D&D a bigger budget when asked. This is the only epic on television.

    Epics are a huge investment and expensive but they also yeild the highest return when done right. look at the DVD sales! I cant imagine how much GoT merchandise has been sold. I alone own like 5 Stark shirts… Also, years from now, people will still watch GoT and buy the DVDs that are just becoming young adults and entering into their newly discoved fantasy/drama craving.

    I guess to make a long story short I hope HBO gives D&D the budget they need to keep going with this series and do it in epic fashion, staying as close as possible to the books. The more HBO invests in the series the higher return they will get…

    When HBO executives try to imagine their highley coveted 18-49 demo, when it comes to GoT I want them to think of us (18-49yr olds) collectively as that 6’3″ 291lb Ryback wrestler. For those that don’t know what I am talking about. His theme is “Feed Me More”. It describes us perfectly as to our appetite for GoT… Feed usHBO… FEED US MORE!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFPdVG5JJeM

  152. Mike Chair
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    EricOF: It IS time for 12-episode seasons now.

    Yes! Twelve. *chanting “Twelve! Twelve! Twelve!”*

  153. João Lucas
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    TWD is popular in America,GOT is a wordwide sucess….

  154. Tereeza777
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    MUGger:
    WildSeed,

    Or “Behind The Throne” – it could have segments like “Winter Has Come” (cast members killed that week); the “Inside Game of Thrones” for the most recent episode; “Podrick’s Peers” (cast members who shed their clothes that week); and, of course, “Game of Tweets”.

    MUGger,
    And since most of the actors/actresses live in the UK – tape the show in London with Graham Norton hosting! “Pod’s Peers” and “Game of Tweets” would be a riot! I would even skip “Vikings” for that one! Great idea!

  155. b1narys3rf
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    These numbers are just getting warmed up.

    Congrats to all involved and the cast and crew – great to be part of this fandom and culture!

  156. outdoorcats
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    The likelihood that GoT will ever hit big at the Golden Globes is unfortunately close to zero. The Globes are voted for by a very small committee which are famous for clearly taking out-and-out bribes for their nominations, and are heavily geared towards TV shows which feature huge stars.

  157. outdoorcats
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    I’d like twelve episodes a season too, but you realize that if they did that you’d have to wait another few months for the show, right? I understand it’s barely an exaggeration to suggest it takes them 365 days of the year to put together a full season of GoT at the last second – there is a staggering, mind-boggling amount of work involved.

  158. The Purist
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    So GoT has become “The Walking Dead” for HBO, gets great ratings, but questionable writing. I know I know, you people hate my guts.

  159. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Ser Hound:
    Alan,

    Boardwalk is an incredible show. For me it’s up there with GoT, Breaking Bad, and Mad Men. I admit, it takes a few episodes to get really into, but by the second season I was hooked. The details of the sets and their devotion to historical accuracy is incredible. Also, great writing, acting, and character development. It deals with all the political issues of the time brilliantly as well. If you’re into gangster movies at all (Godfather, Goodfellas, Miller’s Crossing), it’s up there with the best, IMO. Steve Buscemi kills it, but Jack Huston really steals the show as a horribly disfigured war veteran turned assassin. GoT is better (obviously), but I really hope Boardwalk lasts a few more seasons at least.

    Oh, I watch it. And some of the characters are interesting. But I just find it’s missing something for me to make it compelling. It’s very well done and I can see why some people love it. But I don’t enjoy it all that much.

  160. Alan
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    DH87: Yes. This was the article I was recollecting—total sell-through for all formats was down 8.4 percent and trending down, but I don’t think first quarter 2013 figures are out yet. You may have seen something more recent.

    http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/consumer-spending-on-home-video-fell-1-5-in-q4-deg/

    Not sure what the timing of the article I saw, but I think it was older, actually. Quarterly stuff can bounce a bit.

  161. Mike Chair
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:22 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats: I’d like twelve episodes a season too

    twelve [twɛlv]
    noun
    1. (Mathematics) the cardinal number that is the sum of ten and two
    2. (Mathematics) a numeral, 12, XII, etc., representing this number
    3. something represented by, representing, or consisting of 12 units
    4. Also called twelve o’clock noon or midnight

    5. The number of episodes Game of Thrones should have every season.
    Twelvist: a Game of Thrones fan who supports this.

  162. Steel_Wind
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    DH87: True Blood costs only half as much as GOT to produce so is, and always will be, more profitable.

    You are mistaken about the profit element of True Blood. HBO’s CEO has said GoT is their most profitable show.

    The reason why this is so is because its DVD/Blu-Ray sales are significantly the highest (by far) of HBO’s series (the pirates will pay for Blu-Rays it seems). Moreover, True Blood‘s foreign sales revenue is a LOT less than GoT’s. The same is true of The Walking Dead.

    I would speculate that the reason this is so is because both shows, True Blood and The Walking Dead are American shows which feature American sets and American cultural settings and assumptions throughout. Game of Thrones does neither. This is why its foreign sales are so strong in Europe. Fantasy medieval Europe appeals more strongly to a European audience than does an American Zombie Apocalypse, or Louisiana’s Bon Temps.

  163. b1narys3rf
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    GoT is a worldwide smash. It’s fantasy mythology and that appeals to everyone, everywhere, except maybe the young who aren’t allowed to watch it yet. The only reasons to think its ratings and sales won’t continue to climb are:

    1) production/cast issues (we pray for none and that all the contracts are solid)

    2) people not engaging with the show in Seasons 5+ as much. (I leave out Season 4 because it’ll be in large part based on the third book, which is generally accepted as the best story-wise.)

    Time will tell.

  164. Ser Hound
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Twelve! Twelve! Twelve! Twelve! Twelve!

  165. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:41 pm | Permalink

    dizzy,

    Shouldnt have got rid of Micheal Pitt in BE, bad move trying to kill off everyone like a certain show we all know.

  166. Unbowd UnbentUnHodor
    Posted April 30, 2013 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    i wanna know how many people watch the show worldwide, including ratings of other countries such as England and Australia and also combine it with how many times its been pirated. I’m sure all those views will be more than the Walking Dead worldwide. I do watch Walking Dead but i enjoy GoT much better

  167. DH87
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Steel_Wind: You are mistaken about the profit element of True Blood. HBO’s CEO has said GoT is their most profitable show.

    The reason why this is so is because its DVD/Blu-Ray sales are significantly the highest (by far) of HBO’s series (the pirates will pay for Blu-Rays it seems). Moreover, True Blood‘s foreign sales revenue is a LOT less than GoT’s. The same is true of The Walking Dead.

    I would speculate that the reason this is so is because both shows, True Blood and The Walking Dead are American shows which feature American sets and American cultural settings and assumptions throughout. Game of Thrones does neither. This is why its foreign sales are so strong in Europe. Fantasy medieval Europe appeals more strongly to a European audience than does an American Zombie Apocalypse, or Louisiana’s Bon Temps.

    You may have missed that I corrected my assertion above, in comments with Alan. True Blood episodes cost approximately $2.5 million each (12 eps); GOT $5.5—$6 million each (10 eps). That’s at least $25 million in additional income GOT has to generate just to break even with TB’s production costs. TB has licensed products in Europe, Asia, and elsewhere, including fragrances and a complete beauty line sold through Home Shopping Network in the States. (I’d find it hard to envision a “beauty line” based on GOT, wouldn’t you?).

    As you say, Europeans find the GOT subject matter more accessible than American audiences do, but may not be that enthusiastic about Atlanta- or Bon Temps-based shows. This article from last year’s Financial Times seems to explain HBO’s foreign licensing strategy pretty completely, although it doesn’t mention what the per-ep cost is for TB.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8e20afe2-7cd2-11e1-a676-00144feab49a.html#axzz2S0oNnwoS

    In any case, I’m not questioning Lombardo’s statement that GOT is HBO’s most profitable show overall.

  168. G_Lee
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    Winter, can we get an update chart with shows the trend since season 1?

  169. Dan Spicer
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 7:31 am | Permalink

    Now that it is apparent they are going to skip a calendar week between episodes 8 and 9, and knowing what episode 9 will likely depict, I have a serious dilemna. My wife and I will be on vacation that week and will not have access to HBO. How in the world do I keep her from being spoiled until the following tuesday when we return? given how the season is progressing, I figure it plays out as follows EP7: Shae chafes from Tywin hanging her, EP8: The Blue, EP9: The Red, EP10: The Purple. I also predict we will see Dontos in EP 10 to whisk Sansa away. Tyrion will take the full blame for Joff death, and Sansa will not hide her identity at the Erie in Season 4 But how do I keep my wife unspoiled while we are in Las Vegas for EP 9?

  170. kanjisheik
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    G_Lee:
    Winter, can we get an update chart with shows the trend since season 1?

    Winter had retweeted this chart yesterday – http://t.co/CRA6zjn9sN

  171. dizzy
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Damryn of Dorne,
    I was worried about that too after season 2 but season 3 was perhaps my favorite of BE. I would be o.k. with Gyp Rosetti (Bobby Cannavale) as the Red Viper. He had excellent chemistry with Dinklage in The Station Agent. However he is American and GoT has the whole British equity thing.

  172. Delta1212
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 10:02 am | Permalink

    dizzy,

    I like Cannavale, but I really can’t picture him playing the Red Viper.

  173. Hear Me Roar
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Anguissette1979,
    G_Lee,

    Coming soon, fret not!
    I am almost done working on it.

  174. MUGger
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    sunspear,

    Good point — but such a show would serve as a form of (cheaper) advertising for GoT itself (especially during subscription drives), and might hold audience after the show airs (as “Talking Dead” tends to do).

  175. sunspear
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 11:04 am | Permalink

    MUGger,

    I don’t think a Game of Thrones talk show would attract any more subscriptions than Game of Thrones itself already does.

  176. Dana
    Posted May 1, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Ser Hound,

    I completely agree with you. I thought the season was amazing that, for example, the easter episode was a nice little break from all the action.
    I think that for those who lose interest, they should stop watching LOL. Its an easy solution.

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