Episode 27 Preview: “The Bear and the Maiden Fair”
By Ours is the Fury on in Media.

“The Red God is the one true god. Who’s yours?” – Beric Dondarrion
“Death.” – Arya Stark

“Dany exchanges gifts with a slave lord outside of Yunkai. As Sansa frets about her prospects, Shae chafes at Tyrion’s new situation. Tywin counsels the king, and Melisandre reveals a secret to Gendry. Brienne faces a formidable foe in Harrenhal.”

“The Bear and the Maiden Fair” is directed by Michelle MacLaren and written by George R.R. Martin. Originally, Martin reported the episode’s title as “Autumn Storms” and later as “Chains,” and confirmed a final title change after some scenes were shifted into different episodes.

Ours is the Fury: I’m interested to see the results of the new storyline for Gendry, a rather substantial change from the book. Brienne’s “formidable foe” should be a highlight this week as well.


265 Comments

  1. Turri
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    HODOR!

  2. direhound
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Speculation on why the episode was called Autumn Storms or Chains?

  3. M
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Orell and Jon just need to have a slappy-fight and get over it already.

  4. Blackfish
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    I know this episode will show more of how a screw up my nephew Edmure is, and my fist may need to compel him to stop being an idiot.

    Family, Duty, Honor.

  5. Juego de Tronos
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    I will like this episode.

  6. Michael274
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    direhound,

    I think the storms was about the raining from the book which announced that bad stuff was about to happen , as for Chains, i think it was about Jaime’s dream . Anyway i can’t wait to see waht happens with the Gendry storyline considering it was confirmed that GRRM wrote the scene with him and Mel , also the Jaime and Brienne situation is gonna be awesome .

  7. Turri
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Seems like there is a lot of ground to cover. Do we know the runtime?

    I think last episode must be seen as the transition into the third act. Littlefinger’s monologue prepares us for all the dark shit that is about to go down and we get this last picture of Jon & Ygritte on the peak of the world as a contrast, a symbol for what things are worth fighting for.

    This one is as ready as a man can be.

  8. Clabog
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    If Sam The Slayer happens this week, I’m expecting a Breaking Bad “One Minute” level of intensity. Michelle MacLaren is gonna kick some serious ass.

  9. zod
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    direhound,

    From GRRM:

    It was formerly “Autumn Storms,” which I never much liked… but the episode did have a lot of rain in it.

    The rain went away. So did the title.

    The episode is now “Chains.” I like that better. And it works on both a literal and metaphorical level.

  10. Shock Me Sane
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    This is only speculation but initially “Chains” probably referred to the general helplessness of the characters. Brienne is a prisoner, Jaimie is as well, Robb is in a way a hostage to the Freys, as is Edmure as a result. “Autumn Storms” probably referred to the idea that winter is coming, and this is the big set up before everything goes down hill. I could be dead wrong, but those make sense to me.

  11. Mad Hatter
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Speculation on why the episode was called Autumn Storms or Chains?

    Autumn Storms – something about winter coming? Glad they changed it from this.
    Chains – Dany encountering more people in chains in Danyland. If I recall from the book that bear was on a chain. Jaime’s off his chain but still chained by loyalty to Brienne. Sansa just realizing the extent of the chains. Theme of people in chains.

  12. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Turri,

    Please, enough with the “Hodor” posts. It’s getting really old.

  13. Michael274
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    I also love how ungrateful some fans are complaining about Blackfish’s portrayal when they could have just cut the character altogether and never appearing in the series. Sure he is a little more stubborn than in the books but it’s not like they destroyed his character like some fanboys are acting .

  14. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    If Sam the Slayer is in this week’s episode, hopefully Grenn will be there to witness it, so he can fill in all the other brothers and Sam’s new rep can grow.

    Speaking of which, when are Grenn and Edd going to show up again? And Ghost?

  15. Viola
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    I don’t want to think about the dozen or so reasons Theon could be begging for mercy.

    Shit. It is about to hit the fan.

  16. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Michael274,

    Blackfish has been one of the bright spots this season. The casting and portrayal have been superb.

  17. M
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Viola,

    Shhh, shhh. It’s best not to think about it.

  18. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Viola,

    More flaying of fingers.

    Alfie Allen is only set to appear in one more episode. As crucial as the torture scenes are, they need to wrap it up as it will become redundant and virtual torture porn (especially for the sadist Ramsey fan boys), and show more of Theon’s breakdown and transformation into Reek, which we’ll probably get in Season 4.

  19. Turri
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,
    It’s just preempting the inevitable “first!”, which has gotten much older.

  20. M
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    They’ve also had to combine his character a little bit with the Greatjon, I read somewhere, so the slightly…Greatjonnier aspects of the Blackfish aren’t unwarranted here.

  21. Walter Harrow
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    How do you know he is only set to appear in one more episode?

  22. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Mad Hatter,

    Please use spoiler tags.

  23. GeekFurious
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    This will be Elio’s favorite episode since 2.09. ;)

  24. Matt
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Clabog,

    Is that the one where the cartel assassins take out Hank in the shopping mall parking lot?

  25. Clabog
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    Actually I’m pretty sure Alfie Allen and Iwan Rheon have two more episodes this season. I read awhile back that they were set to appear in 6 episodes.

    Also, does anyone else think that D&D will create a new plot line where Ramsay will go on a hunt for Bran and Rickon, and that will be what forces the two to split into separate groups? Ramsay’s line to Theon last episode heavily suggested that this might happen. Plus, since Bran has the least amount of material from the books going forward, this might actually be a good idea. What does everyone else think?

  26. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Very few people are using spoiler tags…is this thread only for book readers or did I miss something?

    Non-readers don’t know that there will be an actual bear in this ep…the only exposure they’ve had to the title is the song sung in a previous ep. AND they don’t know anything about Theon becoming Reek.

  27. GeekFurious
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Clabog:
    Stone Cold Bastard,

    Actually I’m pretty sure Alfie Allen and Iwan Rheon have two more episodes this season. I read awhile back that they were set to appear in 6 episodes.

    Also, does anyone else think that D&D will create a new plot line where Ramsay will go on a hunt for Bran and Rickon, and that will be what forces the two to split into separate groups? Ramsay’s line to Theon last episode heavily suggested that this might happen. Plus, since Bran has the least amount of material from the books going forward, this might actually be a good idea. What does everyone else think?

    My thinking exactly.

  28. Clabog
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Matt,

    That’s the one!

  29. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Walter Harrow,

    He and Iwan Rheon were said to be in 6 episodes this season. I believe they have appeared in 4 episodes so far, which means they will be in two more episodes. I suspect episodes 7(obviously) and the finale.

  30. Walter Harrow
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Where did you read/hear about that?

  31. sjwenings
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    Clabog,

    Thats some good thinking! And a change that might make both storylines more interesting. I know many non-readers have been complaining about these two storylines – Theons (this season) in particular.

  32. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Walter Harrow,

    Whenever it was announced that Iwan Rheon was cast as “Boy”.

  33. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Is it true that the actor who portrayed Greatjon Umber left the show? And if that’s true, they should’ve just recast the character – he’s at the RW but lives and is taken prisoner by the Freys, and wouldn’t be surprised if he turns up in the WoW.

  34. Turri
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Clabog,
    Stone Cold Bastard,
    Since we have the other 8-9 storylines confirmed to appear, Sam&Gilly and Stannis&Davos are likely to sit this one out.

  35. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    Blockquote isn’t the spoilertag.

  36. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ,

    Yeah no kidding. I just finished editing my post.

  37. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Turri,

    A shame.

    I think it’s a combination of too much Margaery/Joffrey and the lie that episodes were going to be longer this season. Quite a few have clocked in at a mere 53 minutes, with one I believe only being 57 minutes.

  38. MyBFFTheHound
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    So this is the first MM-episode? Shit’s gonna be hot.

  39. KG
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious,

    Yep, couldn’t agree more.

  40. Summer Is Coming
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Ep. 27 is gonna be awesome. It’s GrrM after all. and I can’t wait to see Michelle MacLaren’s take on the show.

    The Bear scene, it’s not written by GrrM, so everyone should have that in mind. Arya is kidnapped by the Hound, Robb and Talisa are gonna have their sex scene and Gendry finds out he’s a bastard… I wonder if this scene is written by GrrM…

    and also Orell… he’s supposed to appear in 5 episodes, and with this one this week is gonna make 5… either his story was stretched in at least one more episode, or Orell is gonna die or never see him this season..

  41. Darquemode
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    If Theon is in only one more episode I will be elated!
    While the scenes have been well done they have been too long and/or too numerous. Much like the Tywin ad Arya scenes last year (that were brilliant), it is getting redundant to me.

  42. Jenny of Oldstones
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming:

    and also Orell… he’s supposed to appear in 5 episodes, and with this one this week is gonna make 5… either his story was stretched in at least one more episode, or Orell is gonna die or never see him this season..

    would make sense if he died, right? It is so in the books, and then he can attack Jon as we saw in the previews, because he lives on in his eagle. Doubt he will be doing the other Varamyr scenes, they weren’t that important.

  43. TheHedgeWizard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    looks like theon will be getting his gelding

  44. ScottsdaleSam
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    So far as I remember, Jamie should have 3 scenes in this episode, right? “Give Robb Stark my regards”, dream, and bear pit. That’s an awful lot to cover with so many storylines needing to be addressed. I really hope they don’t cut the dream.

  45. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    TheHedgeWizard,

    That never happened in ADWD, and considering they’ve cut back on certain elements (ie gore) in the show, I doubt that happens.

  46. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming,

    How do we know GRRM didn’t write the bear pit scene? I think the change of the title was because the actual song will be sung by Locke and his men while Brienne is in the bear pit. There are likely to be several Jaime-Brienne scenes in the episode. I have a hard time believing that they would move all of those scenes up from episode 8. And I have a harder time believing that GRRM would write only Jaime’s departure from Harrenhal and not his return.

  47. Grijnwaald
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard:
    Turri,

    Please, enough with the “Hodor” posts. It’s getting really old.

    ……….no

  48. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    ScottsdaleSam,

    There is not going to be a dream. Cogman said that for now, only Bran has dream sequences. If we didn’t get theTower of Joy dreams from Ned in season 1 then we won’t get Jaime and Brienne fighting wraiths beneath Casterly Rock. I am really worried that the show might leave out Jaime sending his regards to Robb Stark, though.

  49. Grijnwaald
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Anyhoo, I’m really not looking forward to more Theon torture scenes, they give me the heebie jeebies

  50. Ed
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Trying to noodle out what happens in the final 4 episodes: HELP!

  51. GoT
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    Turri,

    What are the other storylines confirmed? It’s just speculation.

    We NEED to see Sam the Slayer on episode 7, since Coldhands will appear right on 3×08, and he comes a lot AFTER Sam killing the White Walker ,

  52. Ed
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    This fu&^%$ garbage editor is buls&^%%t! Can we PLEASE just have a regular message board for Christ’s sake??

    I *clearly* highlighted what I needed, hit the spoiler button, PREVIEWED it, then when I posted it, the spoilers showed! WTF?!

  53. FlayedManofBK
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    it will.. this episode..

  54. FlayedManofBK
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    it’ll be there..

  55. ScottsdaleSam
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Ugh, that sucks. It would be such an easy scene to film, too.

    I was hoping to see Jamie say “I dreamed about you last night” with a smirk when asked why he came back for her.

  56. Chysko Ikana
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Lol, you can already see Jaime jump in the pit which means everyone who sees this trailer will know what will happen before it happens :)

  57. ebevan91
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Book purists will love the changes for about a week lol.

  58. Michael274
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    How do you know that ?

  59. Turri
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    GoT,
    From the preview and the recap we can be sure to see:
    Robb, Dany, Bran, Arya, Mel, Jon, King’s Landing, Jaime, Theon

    Regarding Sam, I’m pretty sure they will combine the Slayer scene, being hunted by wights and rescued by Coldhands into Ep.8

  60. Michael274
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Chysko Ikana,

    Do you really think any non book reader analyses the trailer like a bunch of nerds like us ?

  61. Darquemode
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    There could b a dream, but we will not “see” it.

    I think Cogman meant that Bran’s dreams are the only dreams we will be witnessing as he has them. Last week we saw that Jojen had a greeendream when he had his seizure. We did not “see” the dream, but we were told about it after.

    They could do something similar with Jaime. Have him wake up and demand to go back to Harrenhal, then later tell Brienne that he dreamed of her.

  62. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    GRRM said on his blog that the bear pit was from a later episode written by D&D which was shifted into his episode; hence the final title change.

  63. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    ScottsdaleSam,

    Jaime could still say that but they might not show it…..

  64. Serjammy
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    Better “Hodor!” than “First!”

  65. GoT
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Turri,

    Maybe as you said, but I think it will be too soon for Rast to become a wight in just one episode, it usually takes more time for the turning. Futher, why bring that fucking useless dialougue about the dragonglass in episode 3×06 if that scene will be only happening on ep. 3×08? That would be a huge continuity fail in my opinion…

  66. Hounded
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Definitely looking forward to the bear, Jaime being a big damn hero and Tywin counselling the king!

  67. JamesL
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Turri,

    Sam the Slayer is supposed to be in this episode unless they pushed it back an episode. The guy who played the White Walker in the S2 finale was credited to be appearing in Ep 7 this season.

  68. JamesL
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming,

    GRRM wrote the scene between Mel and Gendry. Bryan Cogman confirmed it on this website a few weeks ago.

  69. JamesL
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

    Clabog,

    I like that idea.

  70. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh,

    I guess the original plan was to have Jaime depart Harrenhal in episode 7 and return in episode 8. I’m glad they just had it all in one episode. I just hope Jaime’s line about only rescuing maidens is in the show.

  71. JamesL
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    According to IMDB Lysa and Robin Arryn are supposed to be appearing in this episode.

  72. GoT
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    JamesL:
    Turri,

    Sam the Slayer is supposed to be in this episode unless they pushed it back an episode.The guy who played the White Walker in the S2 finale was credited to be appearing in Ep 7 this season.

    Exactly. The bear pit and Arya’s kidnapping are epic events in the series, but for a 7th episode I think it’s better to put Sam the Slayer in it, so we can have Coldhands in ep. 8 without rushing Sam’s two major events into a single episode.

  73. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    GoT,

    I think Sam the Slayer happens this episode and Rast the wight + Coldhands show up next week.

  74. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Awesome, I can’t wait to see how he handles a change.

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh,

    I guess the original plan was to have Jaime depart Harrenhal in episode 7 and return in episode 8. I’m glad they just had it all in one episode. I just hope Jaime’s line about only rescuing maidens is in the show.

    I hope it’s intact, also.

  75. zod
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    IMDb isn’t a reliable source when it comes to episodes that haven’t aired yet. Those informations are provided by users and are often wrong.

  76. Walter_Eagle
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Confirmed appearing: Jaime, Brienne, Roose, Locke, Robb, Talisa, Catelyn, Sansa, Shae, Tyrion, Tywin, Joffrey, Dany, Jorah, Barristan, Melisandre, Gendry, Arya, Beric, Jon, Ygritte, Tormund, Orell, Mero, Theon, Ramsay, Sandor, Grey Worm, Bran & co.

    Probably: Edmure, Brynden, Bronn, Missandei, Daario, Thoros, Anguy.

    Possibly: Cersei, Loras, Margaery, Varys.

    Unlikely: Stannis, Davos, Littlefinger, Samwell.

  77. JamesL
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    Why did they decide to give Gendry a goatee this year? I like that they gave Stannis some scruff this year but do not like Gendry with a goatee.

  78. Michael274
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Who really cares ? It’s not like it’s an important plot point . I also find it weird that you care about that considering you’re not a girl .

  79. Darquemode
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Michael274,

    That’s just rude.

    Noting how they evolve a character, even small details (in your opinion) like hair style or facial hair many people find interesting. If you do not, fine, but why mock someone else?

  80. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Walter_Eagle,

    No Sam!!! Darnit….when are they ever going to advance his story…….

  81. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:37 pm | Permalink

    Viola,

    Wonder if it will be specified as it was not in the books.

    Still not going to feel sorry for him.

    Ever.

  82. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:38 pm | Permalink

    FlayedManofBK,

    In your sadist fanboy dreams.

  83. Bell
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Michael274,

    Oh course the do! I know I analyze the previews of a lot of my favorite shows. Even the ones not adapted from books.

  84. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Maybe they want to show that Gendry is becoming a man. It seems that many of the men wear beards in Westeros. It’s not uncommon in such patriarchal societies for the beard to be a symbol of manhood.

  85. AA
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Michael274:
    JamesL,

    Who really cares ? It’s not like it’s an important plot point . I also find it weird that you care about that considering you’re not a girl .

    As a guy who likes guys, I also noticed Gendry’s goatee and am not a fan. Also, why has he not taken his shirt off once this season?…How’d that make you feel Michael?

  86. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    AA,

    Don’t you fret, he’ll be topless for a certain leeching scene in episode 8.

  87. Endless Giraffe
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Any actual confirmation on that, because I haven’t seen anything?

  88. Darquemode
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Endless Giraffe,

    He was topless in one trailer and being stripped by Melisandre in another so I think it safe to assume it will happen in some upcoming episode.

  89. Theon's Missing Junk
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 9:20 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard:
    TheHedgeWizard,

    That never happened in ADWD, and considering they’ve cut back on certain elements (ie gore) in the show, I doubt that happens.

    Might not be confirmed vut its very strongly implied that it did. Plenty of things only implied in the books seem to be expanded on in the show, Loras and Renly getting gay being the most notable example. I have a stro g feeling it happens this episode

  90. Michael274
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    AA,

    Well, at least you said why . Still don’t see what’s the big deal but whatever .

  91. Theon's Missing Junk
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

    Michael274,

    AA,
    As a straight guy even I don’t like the goatee. Joe dempsie just can’t really pull it off

  92. Selmy
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 10:14 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard:
    Turri,

    Please, enough with the “Hodor” posts. It’s getting really old.

    Truer words have never been said, you are soiling the comments with your ”Hodors” that are what, supposed to be funny? Clever? Well it ain’t, it just bugs everyone.

    I am so piped up for George’s episode, dialogue will be perfect and a lot of storylines are paying off in it. A Bear there was, a bear, a bear…. All black and brown and covered in hair!

  93. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ:
    JamesL,

    Maybe they want to show that Gendry is becoming a man.It seems that many of the men wear beards in Westeros.It’s not uncommon in such patriarchal societies for the beard to be a symbol of manhood.

    They could also be showing “And who the hell has a good razor out here in this cave anyway?”

  94. Jen
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Is there a youtube video with the “previously on” for the next episode out there?

  95. ebevan91
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 10:32 pm | Permalink

    Jen:
    Is there a youtube video with the “previously on” for the next episode out there?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vpoprUkmnU

  96. Jen
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    ebevan91,

    Yay thank you!

  97. JamesL
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 10:54 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I’m pretty sure that is happening in this weeks episode.

  98. Turncloak
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vpoprUkmnU

    Jaime: “I dreamed of you”.

    lol sounds pretty cheesy. Hopefully the show can pull it off if he does say that

  99. TheHedgeWizard
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Theon’s Missing Junk,

    Yeah, agreed. Things that have only been alluded to in the books have happened in the show. Renly/Loras as well as Stannis/Melisandre. Theon getting cut certainly could happen

  100. Skipjack
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Clabog,

    Good call, and that would be very welcome. It would actually be an improvement on Bran’s story from the book, giving Bran’s story a more present sense of peril would give it some needed juice, and a better reason to split up Bran and Rickon, especially since they aren’t diving into the lore and backstory.

  101. Chickenduck
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    JamesL:
    Why’d they decide to give Gendry a goatee this year?

      

    Because he couldn’t find a razor at Harrenhal.

    Let’s be fair, a lot of the characters are suspiciously well-groomed on the show considering their living conditions! If they were going for realism, they should mostly all be pretty dirty and hairy…

  102. Zack
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    Skipjack,

    And why else they would bother showing Ramsay finding out about the Stark boys…

    Dialogue is generally in this show to serve a purpose. Gives Iwan Rheon something to do next year and he’ll probably want to be accompanied by “Reek, much further down that path than Theon currently is.”

  103. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 10, 2013 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Yeah, I was on the TWOP unsullied board recently and they hate the Theon scenes so much that if they are leading to something I’m not sure it’s going to redeem the whole arc.

  104. Dogmayor
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    What is TWOP and why should we care?

  105. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    * EDIT: Found it.

    I could have sworn I meant to reply to someone in this thread regarding the run time of the episodes to date this season, but I can’t seem to find that post… Oh well, I didn’t type this up for nothing:

    Season 1:

    Ep. 1 – 62 minutes
    Ep. 2 – 56 minutes
    Ep. 3 – 58 minutes
    Ep. 4 – 56 minutes
    Ep. 5 – 55 minutes
    Ep. 6 – 53 minutes
    Ep. 7 – 58 minutes
    Ep. 8 – 59 minutes
    Ep. 9 – 57 minutes
    Ep. 10 – 53 minutes

    Season total: Approximately 9 hours and 45 minutes total run time.

    Season 2:

    Ep. 1 – 53 minutes
    Ep. 2 – 54 minutes
    Ep. 3 – 53 minutes
    Ep. 4 – 51 minutes
    Ep. 5 – 55 minutes
    Ep. 6 – 54 minutes
    Ep. 7 – 56 minutes
    Ep. 8 – 54 minutes
    Ep. 9 – 55 minutes
    Ep. 10 – 64 minutes

    Season total: Approximately 9 hours and 15 minutes total run time.

    Season 3:

    Ep. 1 – 55 minutes
    Ep. 2 – 58 minutes
    Ep. 3 – 53 minutes
    Ep. 4 – 54 minutes
    Ep. 5 – 58 minutes
    Ep. 6 – 54 minutes

    Season total (to date): Approximately 5 hours and 53 minutes run time.

    Comparatively, season three (through six episodes) is approximately 7 minutes shorter than the first season, and 20 minutes longer than the second season.

    …I’ve got too much time on my hands at work… But yeah, I’ll be interested to see how long the remaining episodes are. Also, to note, I got all of these times from HBO Go, so the opening and closing credits are included in these running times, but not the ‘Previously On’ segment.

  106. mags giantsbabe
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:31 am | Permalink

    I smirk every time I notice Jon’s perfectly groomed beard as well, even when with the wildlings :)

    I can’t see the preview yet, is he in this episode? I almost thought he would sit this next one out. Kit said in the HBO-connect interview there’s a scene coming up in his story line, towards the end, which he is really looking forward to, something he enjoyed filming more than the cave and the climb, and now it tickles me as to what scene this is.

  107. Skipjack
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:31 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I think people will realize soon enough that it’s not just Theon’s story that keeps the show from revealing who is holding Theon, but that they have been holding back to keep some surprise about the Red Wedding. I don’t know if it will redeem it but it will go some ways to explain it. I think people are putting together who has Theon due to the flayed man sigil with its X. That’s kind of what passes for subtlety on GoT. But after Roose Bolton lets Jaime go and then condemns Brienne to death, and then goes to the Twins for those events I think people will look back and see why for the mystery. Unfortunately for us, Ramsay-as-Reek is so much better and it is richer psychologically to have the relationship between Reek and Theon be inverted.

  108. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:37 am | Permalink

    * Correction for my above post: This season is actually 8 minutes shorter than the first, and 11 minutes longer than season two. *

  109. Darquemode
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:42 am | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Ha! XD

    Ya it does. That’s why I did not use quotes, I was just expressing the gist of message not the words themselves. I’m D&D or GRRM would write something in character and awesome… Jaime has nailed everything given to him so I have faith.

  110. Grijnwaald
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Selmy: Truer words have never been said, you are soiling the comments with your ”Hodors” that are what, supposed to be funny? Clever? Well it ain’t, it just bugs everyone.

    HODOR

    We’ll continue Hodoring untill the very last post (or untill we’re told by someone of authority to stop)

  111. SerKenjiGerrard
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 2:17 am | Permalink

    Gendry; “I’m just a bastard”
    Melisandre; “You know nothing, bastard”

  112. Kate
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 2:25 am | Permalink

    GoT: it will be too soon for Rast to become a wight in just one episode, it usually takes more time for the turning.

    Waymar Royce disagrees.

  113. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 2:36 am | Permalink

    Grijnwaald: HODOR

    We’ll continue Hodoring untill the very last post (or untill we’re told by someone of authority to stop)

    Seriously, with all the repetitive bitching that so often goes on here it’s a few simple “hodors” that set people off? I’ll take a thousand hodors over yet another negative post about Roz.

    But then, well, I guess that’s not gonna be a problem anymore anyway….

  114. Chickenduck
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 3:06 am | Permalink

    Dogmayor:
    Joshua Taylor,

    What is TWOP and why should we care?

    Television without pity, a general TV discussion site.

    I don’t think we need to care especially.

    On the topic of Theon, I don’t really have a problem with the scenes they’ve done in and of themselves, but I would have timed it differently – e.g. have no Theon at all for the first 4-5 episodes, then suddenly have an appearance halfway through the season and only stretch the mystery over a few weeks.

    I’m fairly sure they’ll reveal his identity in the same episode as the RW – basically when they’ve arrived at the Twins, someone tells Cat that Bran and Rickon are dead thanks to Theon, but as a consolation, here’s some of Theon’s skin, as he’s being tortured by (moment of reveal) Roose Bolton’s Bastard Son Ramsay. Cut to torture scene. So we may have another 2-3 weeks of no payoff… But maybe they’ll start a fresh storyline where they hunt down Bran and Co so that both parties actually have something interesting to do?

    I do think they need to do something to spice up the current situation for Bran etc. It’s in danger of becoming like watching parts of seasons 2 and 3 of LOST when they just went walking around the island for a while. Although at least in GoT there are other storylines to distract us.

    I have faith in D&D not to just have them walking around aimlessly for TOO long… Ramsay and Reek on a Branhunt? Maybe even a Branhunt that chases them all the way to Queenscrown?

  115. The Purist
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 3:10 am | Permalink

    You know I’ve been thinking that maybe I’m being harsh on the show this season. I’ll give you my word that for just this episode coming up in season 3, I will be more fair and not so overly critical. There, let no one tell me that I’m being harsh on the show simply because I’m a book purist and I didn’t give one episode a fair go.

  116. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 4:19 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Cool story. Tell it again, please.

  117. Kate
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 4:25 am | Permalink

    Walter_Eagle: Confirmed appearing: (…) Mero

    I’m having a doubt now:

    Is Mero the guy dresed as a slaver that appears talking to Dany in this week’s preview? He certainly looks like Mark Killeen .

    But then, there’s this picture of a rugged scarred sellsword in his imdb profile, and this other photo with Dany, with completely different clothing.

    So… who’s the slaver from the preview? Is he Mero?

  118. Summer Is Coming
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 4:27 am | Permalink

    I still don’t get why Gwendoline Christie is not in the intro, since she appears in 6 out of 7 episodes this season… why is she credited as guest star? Natalie Dormer and Carice van Houten appeared both in 4 episodes each last season and were credited as starring. James Cosmo appeared in only 3 episodes, and same story. Gwendoline appeared in 7, and still a guest… I don’t get it. This season Brienne had more appearances and lines than Talisa and Gendry, who are both moved up in the intro…

  119. zod
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 4:50 am | Permalink

    I bet they will reveal Ramsay’s identity in this episode.

    There will be a Q&A with Iwan Rheon this week on Twitter. I don’t see the point of doing that if he still can’t talk about who he is playing on the show.

    Of course, I could be totally wrong here.

  120. zod
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    Kate,

    The guy from the preview doesn’t look like Mark Killeen at all. It’s “just” a slaver from Yunkai.

  121. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 6:20 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    That’s only because GRRM is writing it . You’re a hypocrite and pathetic at the same time .

  122. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    zod,

    Maybe he just wants to talk about his music career, or something else . Not everything has to evolve around GOT you know .

  123. Darquemode
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming,

    The only thing I can figure is that it’s a contractual detail or experience thing maybe?
    Christie is a fairly inexperienced actress and maybe the other more experienced actors pushed to get higher listing in the credits? Does not make complete sense to me either though….

  124. Hounded
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 6:29 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Could that be because this ep is written by George??

    Also; nobody cares what you think, especially your deity George RR Martin.

  125. The Purist
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 6:52 am | Permalink

    What? I thought GRRM will be writing the next episode after this one, not the one coming up this Sunday. Oh well, I gave my words that I will be fair to this episode whether GRRM is writing it or not. After that, it’s back to tearing up D&D for their awfulness.

    P.S. I love that you D&D apologists are so butthurt over my comments. LOL.

  126. zod
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:25 am | Permalink

    Michael274,

    Keep your condescending tone to yourselft. Thank you very much.

    I’ve seen this in the WICnet Twitter feed.. that’s why I assumed it was related to GOT.

  127. Josla
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    Hi everyone. Mmm… I’m still ranting at the lack of a kiss between Dany and Jorah. Anyone think it was just moved to this episode? Because of its name that is… or do you think it won’t happen at all? I think Daario is coming in episode 8 so it needs to happen soon if it would…

  128. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    zod,

    Sorry, i was getting annoyed by that purist guy . Didn’t mean to sound that harsh.

  129. Max
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    I think we all forgot that there was Yara/Asha scene in the trailer. So Theon‘s storyline may take an unexpected turn. Although Bran‘s chase would be awesome.

  130. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Yeah, i’m sure you didn’t know -.- Also by your name alone i assume you are troll bait .

  131. Loki
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    annual GRRM episode is the only reason the show is worth watching. Too bad we still have the other 9, with prostitutes (look how they are going to introduce Violet the other whore tomorrow), children swearing and random sex scenes and cut characters (thank god we are getting steelshanks!)

  132. zod
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    Michael274,

    Fine then. ;)

    And you’re probably right about the Q&A not being GOT-related.

  133. LordNoga1981
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    This is not George’s episode. His is ep 29. And thats the one originally titled Autumn Storms/Chains

  134. Turncloak
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:30 am | Permalink

    Loki:
    annual GRRM episode is the only reason the show is worth watching.Too bad we still have the other 9, with prostitutes (look how they are going to introduce Violet the other whore tomorrow), children swearing and random sex scenes and cut characters (thank god we are getting steelshanks!)

    Complaining about cut characters when this is the largest cast on television? Pathetic

  135. Loki
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    Turncloak: Complaining about cut characters when this is the largest cast on television? Pathetic

    The writing skills of weiss&benioff are.

  136. Jeff
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    LordNoga1981:
    This is not George’s episode. His is ep 29. And thats the one originally titled Autumn Storms/Chains

    How do you figure? Considering he’s said many times he doesn’t want to write the events of episode 29 again, he’s said on his blog and in interviews he’s writing episode 27 and the schedule says this is his? Perhaps I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying.

  137. The Purist
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    Michael274:
    The Purist,

    Yeah, i’m sure you didn’t know -.- Also by your name alone i assume you are troll bait .

    Yeah, you’re right. Anyone who doesn’t worship the show and thinks D&D are brilliant are trolls.

    Word of advice, don’t blame me when you’re condescending to someone else, take some responsibility once in your life.

  138. MyBFFTheHound
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    My thoughts on the Yara-scene in the trailers:

    We’ll get the leech-scene this episode, and Balon will be the first to die. Early ep.9 Yara will “get the news”, and we’ll never actually see Balon again. Then Robb bites it later that episode and everyone anticipates Joffrey to die in 10, only to be trolled by D&D who’ll keep him alive until next year.

  139. mags giantsbabe
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    If Iwan Rheon has a twitter Q&A this week, maybe it’s because boy will be revealed this week, so he will have a chance to talk about it. Kind of perfect timing ;)

    I also wonder about Gwen Christie’s name not appearing in the credits. It’s like Kit Harington’s name being moved up in the credit line-up, even if he has like one line per epsiode.

  140. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Isn’t westeros.org more of your type of site ? There you can constantly bash the show as you like and worship GRRM and the books like the Bible . Also stop having this whole i’m better than you type of attitude , because you’re not fooling anyone .

  141. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Loki,

    You’re trying way too hard dude ! At least the other guy has some consistency in him .

  142. Red Hound
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    LordNoga1981,

    He didn’t write 29, as he didn’t want to write again about it

    EDIT : Ended quoting wrong post or no idea what happened. Ah well.

  143. Johanna Schau
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    I’m becoming tired of all the Theon-Torturing. Should be more off-screen than actually on screen – just like in the books where we get to know all that stuff waaaaaay down the road. I think we all got the point that Ramsay is a cruel batshit crazy sick bastard?
    I reckon that the Ramsay = Roose’s son reveal is going to be next episode. It’s a nice parallel showing Roose(s Men) throw Brienne into the Bear Pit, and having Ramsay torturing Theon even more.

  144. JamesL
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Loki,

    I know there was a woman cast to play a character called Violet but how do you know if she is a prostitute and being introduced in sundays episode?

  145. Zack
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    I’m not sure why people think an early reveal of Ramsay’s identity is going to immediately ruin future events. Consider,

    A-He’s holding Theon, the man Robb currently wants to kill for taking his home and killing his people
    B-Unless they have Ramsay say flat out “Winterfell? I burned it” it’s still technically possible for viewers to think the Ironborn torched the city and Roose’s men killed them and captured Theon.

    C-If the Brave Companions haven’t given it away, and they’re just as bad…

    If played right, Viewers should think, “Well they’re just torturing the bad guys, but their sigil is a flayed man so that’s consistent.” So I’m expecting the reveal this next episode, and nothing ruined for the newcomers.

  146. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    JamesL,

    Why do you bother with that guy ? He’s clearly looking for attention .

  147. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Johanna Schau,

    The thing is they need to show that Ramsay is worse than Joff so they need to build him up . And he’s only going to appear in 2 more episodes anyway .

  148. Loki
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Michael274:
    JamesL,

    Why do you bother with that guy ? He’s clearly looking for attention .

    Attention is the last thing I need.

    JamesL:
    Loki,

    I know there was a woman cast to play a character called Violet but how do you know if she is a prostitute and being introduced in sundays episode?

    Seriously? I did not know that. Well, that’s funny, it was just a random guess based on a funny thought. You know, roses are gone, now its time for violets to rise and rule the brothels of Kings Landing. heh.

  149. Eor!
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    Theon screaming mercy … castration? God I hope not. The pinky peeling was bad enough, dick peeling would be unbearable.

  150. GeekFurious
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    JamesL:
    Summer Is Coming,

    GRRM wrote the scene between Mel and Gendry. Bryan Cogman confirmed it on this website a few weeks ago.

    BUT THAT IS A VIOLATION OF CANON AND THEREFOR GRRM IS AN EVIL REVISIONIST AND DESTROYING THE SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111one

  151. GeekFurious
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Oh and I am going make a prediction right now about Ramsey.

    They will not reveal his identity until after or right before the RW. The reason they’ve been hanging onto that reveal is simply to create a symmetry between the story lines so the audience has a “oh wow” moment when they put things together. Season 3 is the Bolton villain story line.

  152. Turncloak
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    New viewers are pretty pissed about the Theon storyline. Hindsight says D&D should have just showed Theon after the torture and have us learn about it through suttle acting. that would have been more in line with the books. Is Alfie Allen that big a star that we need to feature him every season?

  153. GeekFurious
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    New viewers are pretty pissed about the Theon storyline.

    Anecdotes are not evidence of anything. Just because you read something online or hear someone you know say something, that doesn’t mean it is shared by anyone but the people you read or heard. That’s why statistics don’t take anecdotes into account.

  154. Duval
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    mags giantsbabe,

    Jenny of Oldstones,

    Well that could be the attack on Castle Black, although the feeling they’re going to put that off to season four has been growing on me.
    It might be the scene where he’s attacked by the eagle or at queenscrown. But I think they’ll combine those two things.
    Anyway, the eagle scar looked pretty good in the chaos preview.

  155. Rita Jones
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    It might work out better if Gilly is the one to witness it and no one believes her. I always found it odd that the Night’s Watch didn’t make finding more dragonglass a top priority.

  156. Rita Jones
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming,

    Natalie Dormer is a bigger name and probably has a better agent.

  157. Rita Jones
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    No, but Alfie Allen is a talented enough actor that he might have another TV series with a consistent pay check lined up if HBO lets him loose for an entire year. Re-casting is possible, but it will lower the overall quality of the show.

  158. mags giantsbabe
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Duval

    Agreed on both points. It would be better to put that off for S4 (if it’s used), together with the other much contested event :)

    I’m actually looking forward to QC, especially if it’s timed well with RW, since both are such Stark-centered events.

    And the scar does look good. It looks really badass on Kit.

  159. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Eor!,

    I hate to say it – as much as I hate the torture and gore scenes – but I think Theon screaming “cut it off” in reference to his flayed pinky was foreshadowing.

    I hate Theon, and nothing can make me feel sorry for him, but even I can’t abide the thought of that.

  160. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Rita Jones,

    Remember that Stannis promised Jon he would set the garrison at Dragonstone to mining obsidian right away.

  161. Turncloak
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    GeekFurious: Anecdotes are not evidence of anything. Just because you read something online or hear someone you know say something, that doesn’t mean it is shared by anyone but the people you read or heard. That’s why statistics don’t take anecdotes into account.

    Pretty much every new viewer review I read/listen to think the Theon scenes are a waste of time. I like them, but many do not

  162. Michael274
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    That’s because they don’t know what happens in the future .

  163. jennyofoldstones
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Clabog,

    Yes. Great idea! I like it and there was the foreshadowing like you said.

  164. jennyofoldstones
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    I like the idea of seeing Theon’s progression from himself into Reek and then to someone else entirely who is capable of heroism. It would be more believable, IMO, if it can be seen happening. Then there is the Bastard himself. I have this feeling that he will be a much more important character in the future and this is why the show hired such great actors to play these two. So they need to be seen a lot and developed over the length of the series. My opinion only.

  165. Emilia lover
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    So it looks like there will be no nudity again… realy hope emilia as some nice scenes to play.

  166. Prince of Pentos
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    “May 8 2013 7:21 PM EDT 3,591
    ‘Cinderella’ Finds Its Prince: ‘Game Of Thrones’ Star Richard Madden
    Robb Stark himself will play Prince Charming opposite Lily James’ Cinderella in Disney’s live-action adaptation.”

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1707051/cinderella-richard-madden.jhtml

  167. LordMorley
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Uhm, what now?

  168. JamesL
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    They didn’t need to keep him out of the season completely but the amount of screen time he has gotten has been unnecessary considering his plot is just him trapped and tortured in mysterious persons basement and it feels completely irrelevant to everything else going on. The scene he had last week with “boy” should have been his first scene of the season and been placed in an early episode, all his scenes before that were unnecessary. He should have just gotten one or two scenes this season and then saved the Theon/Reek storyline for next season when the audience would be no longer in the dark about where he is and who has him captive. The biggest issue for nonreaders is that they don’t know what is going on with his story and why they are watching it. The fact is Theon is irrelevant to story right now and GRRM doesn’t bring him back into the story until he is relevant to the plot.

  169. PrinceTheon
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    On a side note, since i don’t know where else to post it, I cannot believe HBO didn’t nominate Maisie Williams for an Emmy. They only did 3 per supporting category this year and one guest each.

    Supporting Actor: Dinklage, Coster-Waldau, Harrington
    Supporting Actress: Clarke, Headey, Farley
    Guest Actor: Hinds
    Guest Actress: Rigg

  170. Lord Selwyn
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Brienne facing a formidable foe in Ep 7 should be epic enough – but ‘Tywin counsels the King’? After watching Tywin Lannister deal with his own children and checkmate Lady Olenna, his method of ‘counselling’ King Joffrey could be serious FUN!

  171. WildSeed
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

    PrinceTheon,

    Really wished Hildebrand replaced Hinds for guest actor.

  172. Endless Giraffe
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    PrinceTheon,

    NCW is the only one there who deserves it. HBO needs to nominate better.

  173. Nancy
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 7:53 pm | Permalink

    HBO put Kit Harington up for an Emmy? Man, I want his agents. NCW is the only deserving one out of the men they put up.
    And Fairley is the only deserving woman for supporting actress. Glad to see they put Diana Rigg up for best guest actress, I think she might have the best chance to be nominated and win.
    This might not be the popular opinion but if we want to discuss overlooked cast, I would rather have seen a nod for Gwendoline Christie over Maisie Williams. Obviously Gwendoline ought to hire Kit’s agents.

  174. Mike Chair
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    Nancy: HBO put Kit Harington up for an Emmy? Man, I want his agents. NCW is the only deserving one out of the men they put up.

    I’ll reserve judgment on Kit until I see all the episodes, but … no Jack Gleeson? For shame! He has portrayed one of the greatest TV villains of all time, and, certainly the greatest TV villain on TV right now.

    Here’s a fun list of the 25 Greatest TV villains of all time. They’ve got Joffrey/Jack at No. 15. Al Swearengen is No. 10. Tony Soprano is No. 1. StringerBell/Avon Barksdale are No. 3. (N.B. it’s a fun list, obviously not intended to be that serious, e.g. Vince McMahon of the WWF is no 12.)

  175. The Purist
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    Michael274:

    Isn’t westeros.org more of your type of site ? There you can constantly bash the show as you like and worship GRRM and the books like the Bible . Also stop having this whole i’m better than you type of attitude , because you’re not fooling anyone .

    Nah. Thanks for the advice, but I don’t let anyone tell where I should go, especially from someone who blames their problems on someone else. Besides, I can’t wait for the show to gush over GRRM’s episode, it’s not like this website is ever critical on the show, even on terrible episodes like The Climb.

    LordMorley:
    Uhm, what now?

    I don’t know… D&D sucks?

  176. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

    LordMorley:
    The Purist,

    Uhm, what now?

    Looking for more attention, what else?

  177. Endless Giraffe
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

    Someone is westeros.org said that GRRM has a cameo as someone at harrenhal this episode. Anyone else heard this?

  178. Mike Chair
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    Endless Giraffe: … GRRM has a cameo as someone at harrenhal …

    Maybe he plays a ghost writer — WHO NEEDS TO FINISH THE BOOK!

  179. ebevan91
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Endless Giraffe:
    Someone is westeros.org said that GRRM has a cameo as someone at harrenhal this episode. Anyone else heard this?

    He said his cameo is in season 4 not season 3 .

  180. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    PrinceTheon,

    I’m not certain, but I believe each actor still has a chance to submit themselves for a nomination individually.

  181. DH87
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Endless Giraffe: NCW is the only one there who deserves it. HBO needs to nominate better.

    Actors nominate themselves for work on specific episodes in appropriate categories (actors/directors/set designers, etc.). Their peers then vote upon those nominated. The top five vote-getters are then announced as the “nominees.”

  182. Endless Giraffe
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    All the other posts refer to HBO nominating, thats what I was going off of.

  183. DH87
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode: The only thing I can figure is that it’s a contractual detail or experience thing maybe?
    Christie is a fairly inexperienced actress and maybe the other more experienced actors pushed to get higher listing in the credits? Does not make complete sense to me either though….

    It is a contractual issue. The role of Brienne was cast as a “guest star” rather than a lead, right from the beginning. That’s why Ms. Christie’s name appears after the “regulars” and the “leads” in the credits. Unlike many shows, however, I’ve noticed that the leads in GOT change from season to season. That would have been negotiated at the time of the initial contract (or at least the formula as to who is listed as a lead from season to season). This may be because of the large number of casualties in the show or because the vast majority of actors in GOT are British or at least used to working in the British tradition.
    Another way contractual obligations differ: the standard lock-in for lead actors (who are going to “survive,” that is) in American series is for seven years . British actors typically sign for one or two years only. The best current example is the big PBS hit Downton Abbey, which lost two of its most popular leads after only two and three seasons, respectively, for burgeoning film careers.

  184. DH87
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Endless Giraffe: All the other posts refer to HBO nominating, thats what I was going off of.

    Understood—your post was just the most recent on the subject. Each of these awards have different nomination processes. It’s extremely confusing.

  185. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:40 pm | Permalink

    Theon’s Missing Junk,

    Sorry, but it is not strongly implied. From page 473 of ADWD:

    “He wanted to hit her, to smash that mocking smile off her face. He wanted to kiss her, to fuck her right there on the table and make her cry his name. But he knew he dare not touch her, in anger or in lust. Reek, Reek, my name is Reek. I must not forget my name. He jerked to his feet and made his way wordlessly to the doors, limping on his maimed feet.”

  186. Lann's Clever
    Posted May 11, 2013 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Theon’s scenes lose a little the sense, I think, it’s only torture and no more. Do it offscreen because they’re wasting valuable screentime. 6 minutes last episode, the same time that Dany gets to sack Astapor in ‘And Now His… Zzzzzz’.

  187. Bell
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Well since GRRM wrote this it will be a flawless episode. Afterall he is a god who can do no wrong. He never writes super shitty 1000 page books where nothing happens. He never repeats lines again and again and against and somehow convinces the fanboys that is “good writing”.

    You call out D&D apoligist but they are no where near as bad as the GRRM fan whi suck his clock whenever they get a chance.

    The last two books suck. Stop pretending like they don’t.

  188. Bell
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Lann’s Clever,

    Oh me oh my. 6 whole minutes. Clutches pearls.

  189. Tate
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    Ok, and I’ve read plenty of new viewers who like it just fine. But I guess I just read wrong and 100% of new viewers hate it

  190. mags giantsbabe
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    Kit nominated again?? For what exactly? Don’t get me wrong, I love his Jon, but I thought Richard had more lines and Alfie is just as compelling as last season. Or is it because he is also listed as a lead actor? And yes, Jack Gleeson should also be considered. Now everyone will be bashing him again when the news for this comes out, just like they did last year. I don’t get why his name keeps getting sent up, because I seriously doubt it’s him or his agents.

  191. WildSeed
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:31 am | Permalink

    Darquemode:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    There could b a dream, but we will not “see” it.

    I think Cogman meant that Bran’s dreams are the only dreams we will be witnessing as he has them. Last week we saw that Jojen had a greeendream when he had his seizure. We did not “see” the dream, but we were told about it after.

    They could do something similar with Jaime. Have him wake up and demand to go back to Harrenhal, then later tell Brienne that he dreamed of her.

    Cogman indeed emphasized this during the Game of Owns Podcast. I hope
    future seasons demonstrate different approach to the handling of dreams in
    the script . We need Bran’s Greenseer abilities to connect with the audience a
    bit more. I really didn’t know what to make of Jojen’s seizures last week.
    Anything is possible, including reconsideration. It is known.

  192. Jentario
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:09 am | Permalink

    Bell:
    Well since GRRM wrote this it will be a flawless episode. Afterall he is a god who can do no wrong. He never writes super shitty 1000 page books where nothing happens. He never repeats lines again and again and against and somehow convinces the fanboys that is “good writing”.

    You call out D&D apoligist but they are no where near as bad as the GRRM fan whi suck his clock whenever they get a chance.

    The last two books suck. Stop pretending like they don’t.

    I liked ADWD a lot. Less than ASOS, yeah, but I still did. And TWOW will definitely be more eventful as every story seems to be at its peak now and tons of awesome things are coming.

  193. Turri
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:23 am | Permalink

    Seen the leaked pictures for this one, no big surprises. Not sure how much I can say here, so I’ll refrain.

  194. Frey Pie
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:31 am | Permalink

    Turri,

    leaked pictures?

  195. Turri
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:42 am | Permalink

    Frey Pie,
    Some guy with advance copies uploads screenshots somewhere. WIC doesn’t like it.

  196. loco73
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:06 am | Permalink

    Ladies and gentlemen a bit off topic. It appears that the creative cooperation between D&D and George RR Martin is starting to bear fruits in other ways by influencing new upcoming HBO projects. Guillermo Del Toro is currently developing a new series for HBO based on the Japanese Manga/anime series titled “Monster”. I read a little bit about it and it seems interesting. This would be right up HBO’s alley. Below is a brief article regarding the new project. HBO had one albeit brief foray into anime with the short lived but brilliantly creative series “Spawn “.

    Here’s the source:
    http://www.deadline.com/2013/04/guillermo-del-toro-is-hatching-a-monster-of-a-series-at-hbo/

  197. Why?
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 6:42 am | Permalink

    Turri:
    Frey Pie,
    Some guy with advance copies uploads screenshots somewhere. WIC doesn’t like it.

    Why don’t they like it? Honest question. I mean, those who don’t want to be spoiled don’t have to look at them and for the rest it’s just a pit of fun. Not hurting anybody :)

  198. Michael274
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    Why?,

    How are you going to like when they spoil episode 9 ?

  199. Tyrone Slothrop
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    Michael274,

    Not him, but I think I’d have the self-control to just avoid the spoilers. There are millions of people who do just that when it’s so easy to look at the wiki or google a character’s name and get spoiled.

  200. Why?
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    Michael274,

    Again, if I don’t want to be spoiled, I don’t have to look. I’ll be very glad when screenshots of episode 9 are posted, thou. I’m just impatient that way and I don’t mind seeing screenshots beforehand at all. In fact I prefer it. Those who don’t, don’t have to look.

  201. Michael274
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    The Purist,

    Ok, this is my last post to you because it’s obvious your only purpose is to start flame wars and to troll . How about you stop reacting like a 12 year old and stop bashing the showrunners thinking you could do a better job, when you probably can’t write shit to save you life . The show isn’t perfect, nobody said that, but neither are the books . After the last two pieces of turds named AFFC and ADWD , which btw i’m still waiting for my hard earned money back, i’m not sure Martin has it in him like he used to . So think about that for a moment when you star writing more of your vomit inducing posts . Goodbye,and have a nice life !

  202. Lavignac
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    Non-book readers, walk along. Ignore this post.

    Book readers only:

    On the extremely interesting “completely unspoiled speculation” thread on the TWOP forums (reserved for non-book-readers and relatively well policed by their moderators), they did it.

    They (at least some of them) connected that Littlefinger/Lysa Arryn were behind the Jon Arryn assassination… Very interesting thought processes they show there! I always wonder whether there’s a book-reader troll in disguise in that thread, but the complexity of the argument and the uncertainty of the tone is rather convincing this time. Check it out, that thread usually makes for a great spectator sport!

  203. Crow's Eye
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 7:29 am | Permalink

    Spoiler (Quality of the next episode)

    looks not good for the episode
    Spoiler guy (Leakbro) says this is only 5/10
    Many negative comments on westeros.org based on the leaked stills

  204. Michael274
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    Crow’s Eye,

    Of course they would panick over anything at westeros . Still if this episode is as slow as last week, which i doubt considering we are going to have many great scenes coming, i wonder how are they going to defend the Holy George Martin ?

  205. freoduwebbe
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    I think Tywin is going to take Joff’s crossbow away for being an idiot. while Tywin seems to hate whores, using one for target practice is below him and bad pr for the lanisters… He wont want the Tyrells getting cold feet.

    I also wonder if Tyrion will tell dad about the attempt on his life?

  206. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    Crow’s Eye,

    He could be right…OR he could be an asshole who leaks illegal screenshots online and therefore already a troll. I wouldn’t put much stock in his opinion.

    Also there are negative comments on Westeros.org? Huh. My brain just imploded.

  207. Hunt
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    negativity… on westeros.org?? say it ain’t so!!

    It just isn’t a Sunday morning without a cup of coffee and people freaking out on the internet over out-of-context screenshots. Either way, looking forward to a bear! A BEAR! All black and brown…

  208. Michael274
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Yeah, it’s funny how he mentions that the only good scenes are the sex scenes and a few others and you expect me to give much thought in his opinion ? Lol, no !

  209. Hawk
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Michael274,

    Sounds like the learned and all-important opinion of a casual fan, the kind D&D must ever be mindful of…

  210. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    Thrones fans must be truly spoiled (that is, overindulged) if they looked at the screenshots for episode 7 and thought it looked lacklustre.

  211. Uda
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    HODOR!!

  212. Felt Pelt
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    It’s okay to talk under spoiler text about the content of the pictures, right? It was in previous weeks. The commenters at Westeros as always are upset over deviation from source material. Specifically, and turn back here if you don’t wish to know, Mel and Gendry sailing through Blackwater Bay on their way to Dragonstone. And that Boy is shown presenting two naked women to Theon. Presumably the two women are offered before gelding.

  213. Michael274
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Hawk,

    Do you have a problem with me dude ?

  214. Tereeza777
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Getting in the mood by listening to the awesome guitar work of Berlin-based Ernesto Schnack …. enjoy!
    “The Bear and the Maiden Fair”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgHn4CkuTo0
    “The Rains of Castamere” – wish he could play at the Wedding!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POiqCHeeQvg
    “Game of Thrones”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFiD-Bcyus
    This “Tool” song would be perfect for some upcoming episodes – sounds so Spanish, so Moorish, so Dornish ……….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAG139mBtg0

  215. bastardofballyshanon
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    i cant find the leaked screenshots anywhere. could some one link me them or even give a clue (search words..) thanks

  216. Violentos
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    I only have 1 question. How in seven hells are they going to pull off the bear fight scene?

  217. Darquemode
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Violentos,

    They flew out to LA to film with a trained bear!

    It should be pretty good, but like most animal scenes maybe a little basic. Since they train the bear to do certain moves sometimes it can look a little choreographed at times. Usually though with the right editing and planning they come out fine if not awesome!

  218. Darquemode
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Crow’s Eye,

    Well I guess we will finally get to see “Myranda” and “Violet” in this episode!

  219. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    I’m waiting for the backlash over the show ‘killing’ the bear. I wonder if they just won’t have the bear be killed?

  220. kingslayer
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Just thought id share this funny game of thrones artwork i found, very impressive

    http://imgur.com/TnJ5Sal

  221. Jared
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I don’t think that will make it into the show. There’s a shot in one of the preseason trailers that shows the bear standing against the wall of the pit and roaring. Presumably he’s trying to reach Jaime and Brienne as they’re being lifted out of the pit. My guess is that Steelshanks and his men fire a few arrows at the bear, but that ultimately they throw down a rope and lift Jaime and Brienne out of there rather than killing the animal. The scene stays more or less intact, but the producers spare themselves some Internet rage and a call from PETA to say nothing of the logistical difficulties involved with covering a living bear with fake arrowshafts and then getting it to play dead.

  222. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Crow’s Eye:
    Spoiler (Quality of the next episode)

    looks not good for the episode
    Spoiler guy (Leakbro) says this is only5/10
    Many negative comments on westeros.org based on the leaked stills

    Can we put this in context. What did he give for episodes 3,4 and 5?

  223. Hounded
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Loki,

    Yes thank the gods we are getting Steelshanks!! The important character in all the novels!!

    …… yeah.

  224. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    I would say Aiden Gillen deserves an Emmy after his amazing “Chaos” speech. He’s done an exceptional job as Littlefinger

  225. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    I don’t know the answer, but he said the nudity was the only good part of the episode. That should tell you all you need to know. I admit that the two women in the leaked pics were really hot, but if you don’t think the Jaime/Brienne scenes are any good then your opinion is not one I give much credence. It is GRRM’s episode, do you really think it will be bad?

  226. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Michael274:
    Turncloak,

    That’s because they don’t know what happens in the future .

    Yes but they also need to work as scenes in the present and not only be good in hindsight. There will have to be a huge payoff this season. I’m thinking an early reveal of fake Arya and Theon’s purpose to confirm that she’s legit, a reveal of how Ramsay intends to use him to get the Ironborn to abandon parts of the North, a nice way of connecting Ramsay to the burning of Winterfell/house Bolton/red wedding, etc

  227. Mike Chair
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Gameofthrones.wikia says the bear’s name is Little Bart, named after the famous Bart the Bear (no relation) who was excellent in The Edge with Anthony Hopkins (bear fight starts around 5:00). Wiki (general) says Little Bart has the same trainers. So, that’s good news.

  228. Justgottasay
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    If the entire episode consisted of pages turning while GRRM’s narrates them offscreen, the guys at Westeros.org would complain because the voice does not match the one inside their heads when reading and the font is not even close to the one in their paperback edition.

  229. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    He sounds like a troll to me. Jaime and Brienne should be exciting. I wonder if Tywin sends someone we know to retrieve Jaime, maybe Bronn? Also I have high hopes for Arya’s scenes. I think she will angrily run off away from the brotherhood and get herself captured by the hound. Also, I don’t know why they are slow playing the Bran scenes. To me they should have Bran warg into Hodor this episode and save Meera and Osha from death by wight. Then in episode 9 we can have Bran warg into Summer and save Jon Snow. Isn’t this how it happened in the books as well?

  230. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    I don’t think he wargs into Hodor until he is at Queenscrown. Doesn’t he do it because Hodor is making too much noise because he was scared of the storm?

  231. Darquemode
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Mike Chair,

    Should be a great scene!
    Thrones editors do some amazing work so I have little doubt they can shape the scene into something special!

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I really had not thought of that, but maybe they will avoid the death strike.

    Personally I cannot stand PETA people or people that complain about violence to animals in media (deaths like on HBO’s Luck are another story), but are ok with violence to humans. I love wild animals and date to a few big cat charities, but fiction on film is not something to be offended or affected by in my mind.

    Sad that some film-makers and showrunners now feel the need to consider how PETA may react before filming scenes… Just sad.

  232. WildSeed
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    DH87: It is a contractual issue. The role of Brienne was cast as a “guest star” rather than a lead, right from the beginning. That’s why Ms. Christie’s name appears after the “regulars” and the “leads” in the credits. Unlike many shows, however, I’ve noticed that the leads in GOT change from season to season. That would have been negotiated at the time of the initial contract (or at least the formula as to who is listed as a lead from season to season). This may be because of the large number of casualties in the show or because the vast majority of actors in GOT are British or at least used to working in the British tradition. Another way contractual obligations differ: the standard lock-in for lead actors (who are going to “survive,” that is) in American series is for seven years . British actors typically sign for one or two years only. The best current example is the big PBS hit Downton Abbey, which lost two of its most popular leads after only two and three seasons, respectively, for burgeoning film careers.

    Thanks for this *>*

    Perhaps this protocol will prove an advantage for getting more top notch
    talent in the UK or elsewhere, as seasons progress. I wish someone
    communicates with actor Rufus Sewell ( to name only one ), that better
    prospects await him than settling for head vampire in the colonial US south.

  233. Tereeza777
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Jared:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I don’t think that will make it into the show. There’s a shot in one of the preseason trailers that shows the bear standing against the wall of the pit and roaring.
    The scene stays more or less intact, but the producers spare themselves some Internet rage and a call from PETA to say nothing of the logistical difficulties involved with covering a living bear with fake arrowshafts and then getting it to play dead.

    Jared,
    Saw this 1997 movie about 3 years ago. It’s called “The Edge” and it starred “Bart the Bear”. “Bart the Bear”, who died of cancer in 2000, was raised by the same trainer as “Little Bart 2″ who is in tonight’s episode. Unbelievable movie – also starred Anthony Hopkins, Alec Baldwin, Harold Perrineau, etc.
    Some of the best scenes:
    .32 Birthday Surprise
    2:26 Bear kills Steve
    5:15 Bear death
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdVa7p_jicE
    It was hard to see the bear die, but after what the bear had done to Steve – felt like they had to get rid of him.

  234. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Turncloak,

    I don’t think he wargs into Hodor until he is at Queenscrown. Doesn’t he do it because Hodor is making too much noise because he was scared of the storm?

    Yes ur right which is why they should just have them arriving at queenscrown already instead of just wandering through the woods. Bran warning into Hodor and Summer do not have to be in the same episode

  235. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    They do, though. The reason he tries to quiet Hodor by warging into him is because the wildlings are nearby and he didn’t want them to hear Hodor.

  236. DH87
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    You’re quite welcome.
    I’m sure Nina Gold has every top character actor on speed-dial. Fitting Sewell into the shooting schedule for any kind of major role might be a challenge. He has credits for five films in 2012, three in 2013, and one, apparently called Hercules: The Thracian Wars, for 2014.

  237. Darquemode
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    DH87,

    There is a chance though since the 2013 projects are in post-production or already released and the 2014 Hercules project is in pre-production.

    However that Hercules project seems to begin shooting this month, so depending on large his role of Autolycus is Sewell has he could be quite busy in the upcoming months!

    http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=37361

  238. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I thought the reason why Hodor was being so loud was because wights/coldhands were nearby? Does bran not warg into Hodor to fight wights? Or am I confusing events with ADOD?

  239. zod
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    The fight against the wights happens in ADWD, North of the Wall.

    Hodor screams because he is afraid of the thunder.

  240. Patrick Stormborn
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Crow’s Eye,

    Westeros.org reacts badly to everything. It is literally the most negative site ever.

  241. Patrick Stormborn
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Michael274,

    By blaming D&D of course

  242. Shmurb
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    PETA don’t have the best interest of animals at heart. They’re extreme and sensationalist, drumming up anything they can media-wise to get publicity and funding. I hate that real people who care about and do good work for animals get marginalized by organizations like that.

  243. DH87
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Yes, I was using his recent schedule more as an example of how in demand he is as an actor, but I, for one, would enjoy seeing him in the series.

  244. Darquemode
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Shmurb,

    I agree….
    It can be tough for organizations trying to make change.
    Controversy gets attention. Attention funding.

    I’m all for helping animals (humans included), but controversy, extremism, and sensationalism tend to push me away.

    Oh well, we know Little Bart made it through in the end! XD
    Hopefully the scene is as awesome as in the books.

  245. Turncloak
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    zod:
    Turncloak,

    The fight against the wights happens in ADWD, North of the Wall.

    Hodor screams because he is afraid of the thunder.

    Right you are. I just wish D&D use Bran’s storyline a bit better. Do we really need to see Meera and Osha argue about skinning rabbits? If we are getting filler than let us hear Jojen talk about the tourney at harrenhal, etc

  246. Darquemode
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak,

    It seems like this year, and that scene in particular, may be setting up Osha to split the group after seeing Bran’s desire to delve deeper into Greenseeing and warging into Hodor as too “dark” for her..

    I liked the scene, but I would have preferred some exposition from Jojen and Meera since they can really connect a few of the arcs to the past through their stories.

  247. zod
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    I wonder.. when will the guy who leaks the screencaps be able to watch episode 9? If there isn’t a two-week gap for him in between episode 8 & 9, then it’s going to be really bad: screencaps from the RW will make their way to the web one week before the episode actually airs.

    Talk about killing the surprise.

  248. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    zod,

    I can’t believe HBO hasn’t identified this person yet and stopped them.

  249. First
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    Bafta Audience Award in the bag!

  250. Summer Is Coming
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Question for americans: How many hours until the episode?
    ..oh and WiC where is the open chat thread? You are unusually late.

  251. Darquemode
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming,

    Just over 4 hours left until start time here in Central Standard Time zone . Well, 4 hours 15 minutes I guess.

  252. Summer Is Coming
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Thanks! is Central Standard time first after the eastern coast time? I mean is it the Chicago time?

  253. ebevan91
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming:
    Darquemode,

    Thanks! is Central Standard time first after the eastern coast time? I mean is it the Chicago time?

    It goes like this, from west to east:

    Pacific > Mountain > Central > Eastern

    Like right now it is 2PM Pacific, 3PM Mountain, 4PM Central (where I live), and 5PM Eastern

    4 hours from now it’ll be airing.

  254. René
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    A remark after seeing the leaked stills: So Charlotte Hope and Stephanie Blacker are in this episode. I am not a prude, but they sure go far for a small part. Will it really help their carreers?

  255. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    René,

    I don’t know, but Charlotte Hope sure is nice to look at. And I’m pretty sure one or both of them will take the place of Kyra in a scene next season.

  256. Summer Is Coming
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    ebevan91,

    Thanks! hmm.. I didn’t know the third one is called “mountain”. something new to learn every day. and since is 12 a.m. where I am, I started learning today quite early.

  257. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Are we not getting open thread today?

  258. ebevan91
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger:
    Are we not getting open thread today?

    He’s kinda late right?

  259. Endless Giraffe
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I think it would fit perfectly if Ramsay killed/flayed them. It would certainly make a point. I hope we finally get to see some good insane rage from him, so far he has just been sadistic.

  260. Mike Chair
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    ebevan91: He’s kinda late right?

    Yes. I checked. The first “Hodor” last week was at 3:05PM my time. That’s almost 3 hours late!

    Hey, Winter, what’s up?

  261. Nancy
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Me too. I am really hoping HBO finds the person and shuts it down before episode 9.

  262. Endless Giraffe
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Nancy,

    Honestly I am fine with it, I prefer to be spoiled. I’ve read all the books, so I like to know what happens.

  263. ebevan91
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Alright which one of you kidnapped WiC?

  264. Mike Chair
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    ebevan91:
    Alright which one of you kidnapped WiC?

    I think the Hound kidnapped Winter.

    They should change the domain name to winterismissing.net.

    Seriously, I’m becoming concerned. I hope everything is alright.

    :-|

  265. The Purist
    Posted May 12, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Michael274:

    Ok, this is my last post to you because it’s obvious your only purpose is to start flame wars and to troll . How about you stop reacting like a 12 year old and stop bashing the showrunners thinking you could do a better job, when you probably can’t write shit to save you life . The show isn’t perfect, nobody said that, but neither are the books . After the last two pieces of turds named AFFC and ADWD , which btw i’m still waiting for my hard earned money back, i’m not sure Martin has it in him like he used to . So think about that for a moment when you star writing more of your vomit inducing posts . Goodbye,and have a nice life

    This is also my last post to you, because I won’t give more time to someone so disrespectful to the man who without him there wouldn’t even be a show. While you think you aren’t one, but you’re a hardcore D&D apologists that gets all bothered when a little bit of criticism are directed towards them like some 12 year old. I found it so hilarious that you’re bashing GRRM’s writing, when the likes of D&D are nothing but hacks before GoT. Between the two of them, the only thing they are remembered for is writing turds like Troy and that Wolverine movie. I will have a nice life, thank you very much. I will start by rereading AFFC & ADWD, both books I really adore and much better than anything the terrible duo ever wrote.


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