Inside the Episode: “The Bear and the Maiden Fair”
By Winter Is Coming on in Media.

David Benioff and D.B. Weiss provide their usual breakdown of the latest episode in Inside the Episode for “The Bear and the Maiden Fair”.

Winter Is Coming: No post-episode interviews this time so I will just provide this probably pointless observation: it seems the stresses of producing this show are causing Benioff to go prematurely grey.


51 Comments

  1. MartinJF
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Hodor?

  2. Sky Aero
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    What ever happend to Simone Boyce’s recaps?

  3. Grijnwaald
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Sky Aero:
    What ever happend to Simone Boyce’s recaps?

    They stopped it because she couldn’t pronounce “Barristan”………..just kidding

  4. Ryodin
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Benioff is around 42 or 43, right? Doesn’t seem to be anything premature about his graying. Seems right on target if you ask me. It’s all genetic, of course, but I don’t see anything to be surprised about and doubt it has to do with a stressful production. It’s not like he’s turned completely gray.

    I loved the Tywin vs Joffrey scene, btw. The subtle way in which grandpa asserts his domination over the conversation LIKE A BOSS!

  5. Moët
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Benioff has no more gray than usual (sadly, gray is sexy. See: George Clooney.) It’s just that lavender shirt and taupe-ish sweater he’s wearing bring it out.

  6. Cary Storm
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Moët:
    Benioff has no more gray than usual (sadly, gray is sexy. See: George Clooney.)It’s just that lavender shirt and taupe-ish sweater he’s wearing bring it out.

    Benoiff *is* sexy. Hi Moet, miss ya at the Geeks forum. :)

  7. sjwenings
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Ryodin: Doesn’t seem to be anything premature about his graying

    But it’s developing awfully quick, right?

  8. Winterlarks
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Funny chat about Talisa, Robb & bb…Any chance those letters Talisa writes are sinister? Who reads High Valyrian in King’s Landing? Tywin, Littlefinger, Varys, the Maesters? Any chance she’s a Bolton Bird like the ones who visited Theon? Sigh, just sigh.

  9. A wildling Bastard
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Slow paced episode but a great one. Joffery and Tywin’s scene was fierce ..the look on Tywin’s eyes. truly a lion in a shape of man .. can’t wait for the second sons next week ..

  10. John-Michael
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    Disappointed we didn’t get any production insight on the bear pit scene. :(

  11. Lisa Y.
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    Nobody’s gives the disapproving side-eye glare like Catelyn Stark. I’d like to see a glare-off between her and Tywin. I think she could take him.

  12. LordDavos12
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    John-Michael: Disappointed we didn’t get any production insight on the bear pit scene. :(

    I’m actually very surprised they didn’t talk about that at all.

  13. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    I think they knew that it was botched from the get go (late post production phase shooting) but they had to use something. I think that’s why it was shifted to ep 7. This shifting of scenes at the last minute really put the brakes on the momentum of the season.

  14. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Lisa Y.,

    I think she could take him.

    You’re probably right! LOL That glare caught my attention and I was wondering where it was coming from. Is it because she still hasn’t forgiven Talisa for derailing Rob’s war plans or because she thinks it’s Talisa’s fault the meeting ended earlier. We’ve seen Catelyn giving that glare to Talisa several times. I’m hearing so many conspiracy theories about Talisa being a spy now that I’m beginning to wonder if Catelyn suspects her.

  15. Renaud
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    It is pretty common amongst people who have a great deal of responsibility to suddenly age real fast. This is why it is always interesting to observe presidents before they take office and after their term(s) is/are over, the changes are always quite stunning.

    It takes a lot to dedicates oneself to such a project as Game of Thrones!

  16. Michael274
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I don’t see what was botched about the scene .

  17. Winterlarks
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    A wildling Bastard:
    Slow paced episode but a great one. Joffery and Tywin’s scene was fierce ..the look on Tywin’s eyes.truly a lion in a shape of man .. can’t wait for the second sons next week ..

    Tywin does look like a lion with a quiet, predatory presence. Beautiful observation!

  18. Renaud
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    I was really impressed at how they managed to insert the real bear in the sequence. If you look carefully, neither actor seemed to be in the pit with the bear. Apart from the first shot (I think the first shot uses a fast camera pan with CGI to connect Brienne and the bear, but I might be wrong), it’s always a shot/reverse shot with the bear on one side, and Brienne and Jaime on the other. And each time there is a very long shot from far away, I believe they used stunt doubles (both Brienne and Jaime are seen from behind, so it’s easier that way) so as to not endanger the actors.

    And that is pretty freaking classy.

  19. Chickenduck
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 7:13 pm | Permalink

    For what it’s worth, my wife (a non-book reader) was genuinely shocked and moved by the bear scene. She was quite surprised by the bear reveal, with Brienne on screen for a few seconds before the bear lumbers into view – to be honest I think it was done quite well.

    She also laughed when it punched Brienne in the head (as scary and tense as the scene was, I agree that it’s genuinely comical to see someone get punched in the head by a bear). She actually laughed twice in the episode – the other time was when Ramsay busted up Theon’s sex party with his trumpet.

    So I can vouch for the existence of at least one non-book reader who is enjoying the Theon scenes on some level.

  20. mariamb18
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    Moët:
    Benioff has no more gray than usual (sadly, gray is sexy. See: George Clooney.)It’s just that lavender shirt and taupe-ish sweater he’s wearing bring it out.

    Agree – I don’t think that he is prematurely gray. And gray is sexy – on Benioff as well as Clooney. However, I think that he needs to lose that crewneck sweater and button-down shirt. (Shallow comments complete…)

    I loved the scene between Joffrey and Tywin. Charles Dance owns every scene that he is in. But Jack Gleeson is brilliant and doesn’t get enough recognition.

  21. IngridToday
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Jack Gleeson is killing it as Joffrey. He has such a great balance of crazy violent psycho and scary little child.

    I also had no idea it was possible to walk up stairs with such contempt. It was glorious.
    ,

  22. Nagga's Kin
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor: I think they knew that [the bear pit scene] was botched from the get go [...]

    I don’t get why you would say that. The bear was awesome thanks to stunning greenscreen VFX. Brienne fought him off bravely but even she is powerless against a beast that huge if all she’s given is a wooden sword. Jaime jumping in without first grabbing someone’s sword for Brienne to wield wasn’t very bright but then, he did owe her and he didn’t have time to think things through. At least he had already made the Bolton man understand he could tell Tywin whatever he wanted once they got to KL, prompting the crossbow bolt in the bear’s shoulder. Not that it seemed to faze the brute ;^)

    Even with the adrenaline pumping, it did seem a bit improbable that Jaime would somehow manage to climb up 10 feet of vertical wall with just one hand. But hey, it was an action scene and he was the hero. If Hollywood applied the laws of physics and common sense at every single turn, a lot of ripping yarns would never get told at all. I did like that Brienne pulled him up by his right arm – good thing he didn’t let Qyburn amputate all of it!

    The end was a bit of an anti-climax, but Jaime could ill afford to exact his revenge on Locke right then and there. He’d never have made it out alive whatever Lord Bolton had commanded, at least not with Brienne in tow. Instead, he remained disciplined and once again used his wits to accomplish the goal he had set himself. Much like his earlier back-handed polite apology regarding the upcoming Tully-Frey nuptials, the one about the sapphires was straight out of Tyrion’s playbook for cripples and broken things.

    The whole bear pit sequence marked a turning point for Jamie’s character arc as he’ll never again think of himself as useless just because he lost his hand. Perhaps book readers had specific expectations for this scene that weren’t met, but it worked for me.

  23. WompWomp
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Thank you for that report. I watched the episode again earlier today with an open mind (a ritual I repeat with any episode that felt even the slightest bit wanting upon first viewing) and enjoyed it down to nearly every second. I’ve been a Theon-Boy apologist up until this episode, but this week’s scene is still stunningly well-made, though admittedly tiresome considering the lack of an explicit reveal. This week’s torture is actually more plot-relevant than the others since Theon’s castration is an incredibly formative factor with the Reek persona, but in the back of my mind I could see many viewers seeing it as “more of the same.” That, and the cutaway from the literal cutaway left the castration as a half-told point, which makes it that much more of a sadism pentuple-dip to nearly everyone watching.

    I’m hoping the Boy’s identity is revealed via a post-Red Wedding encounter with his Roose since revealing himself to Theon at this point would feel like Littlefinger divulging half his life story in s1 (why confide in your lessers?).

    I appreciate that your wife laughed at this week’s horn-blowing. I know I did. It reminded me of my little sister laughing at the Joker’s magic trick in The Dark Knight. It’s such a shattering moment spun so absurdly by a singularly strange person. I can’t think of a better reaction. It felt like a medieval game show, and they just ran out of time for the lightening rod round. [laughs]

  24. DH87
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Renaud: I believe they used stunt doubles (both Brienne and Jaime are seen from behind, so it’s easier that way) so as to not endanger the acto

    As I said on the other thread, I believe “Little Bart” was in the pit with one or other of his handlers, Doug and Lynne Seus, dressed as Brienne, since at l,000 pounds and 9 feet tall, Little Bart could easily consume Ms. Christie, Mr. Coster Waldau, Dan, Dave, Bryan C., and most of the posters on this board while traveling at 30 mph. All with a big bear-y smile on his face.

  25. WompWomp
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Nagga’s Kin,

    I think I put a finger on what irked me about Bart’s performance. The set and characters were all grimy and gloomy and he was… glistening. I think his wondrously glowing fur got in the way of my suspension of disbelief, that and the disappointingly not-so-dramatic leap Jaime took into the pit itself.

    I watched the episode again and enjoyed its richness, but I still feel the bear scene fell a bit short of functional in terms of spectacle for me. I only speak for myself (my words and perceptions are mind, not the arbitrary gospel concerning the show’s quality by any measure), and I’m thrilled at the positive reactions from non-readers and readers alike. I was just hoping for a bit more visceral drama to the scene than what was presented. I have to agree with some others, the sheer brevity of the scene didn’t highlight the gravity of Jaime’s actions as much as I’d have thought they would. Steelshanks could have done with a few more lines too, shouting to his men to help them out despite Locke’s opposition. At a glance, it looks like the men cheering for Brienne’s imminent mauling had a sudden change of heart.

  26. Zack
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 9:36 pm | Permalink

    Ryodin: The subtle way in which grandpa asserts his domination over the conversation LIKE A BOSS!

    All the non-reader recaps I’ve seen point out that Joff is actually right though, in that he shows a concern about the dragon chick across the sea that his pop-pop doesn’t share. He is the King, it shouldn’t be his job to go to his advisors, they should accomodate him, etc. He may be a scummy evil little troll but he’s not wrong there. It was such a cleverly put together scene because it just conveys so much information about both those characters.

  27. GoT
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    It’s kinda off-topic, but I wonder why there are people complaining about this season.

    Let’s get the facts straight:

    Season 2′:

    1×01 – good
    2×02 – very good
    2×03 – good
    2×04 – okay
    2×05 – bad
    2×06 – epic
    2×07 – okay
    2×08 – bad
    2×09 – epic
    2×10 – very good

    Season 3:

    3×01 – okay
    3×02 – good
    3×03 – very good
    3×04 – epic
    3×05 – epic
    3×06 – bad
    3×07 – good
    3×08 – will be very good at least, if not epic
    3×09 – will be the best episode of the series so far
    3×10 – probably epic

    Conclusion: this season is being way better than the last one.

  28. Nagga's Kin
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 10:06 pm | Permalink

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if the blooper reel on the DVD/Blu-Ray featured an alternate version of this week’s Theon scene? “Boy” might get lines like this:

    Neither of us is a stranger to love, but you know the rules and so do I. I’m thinking of a long-term commitment. Who else would you get that from now, Lord Theon? I just want to tell you how I feel. (hits Theon over the head with the horn)

    I’ve got to make you understand that I’m never going to give you up. I won’t let you down, run around or desert you. I will never make you cry and you will never hear me say goodbye. Oh, and I will never tell a lie and hurt you … much. (whips out the gelding tool)

    (to his guards) John, Rick! Roll him over!

  29. Hexonx
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 10:52 pm | Permalink

    I have a question about why Roose let Jaime go. For readers we know he is in league with Tywin. But are unsullied really supposed to believe that Roose let him go b/c he doesn’t want Tywin to think he had anything to do with Jaime’s maiming? Or am I missing something else?

  30. WompWomp
    Posted May 14, 2013 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    Hexonx,

    Short answer: yes. And why not? It plays to an assumption the would-be captive has, namely the power of his name. I find it quite plausible.

  31. hey now
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    GoT:
    It’s kinda off-topic, but I wonder why there are people complaining about this season.

    Let’s get the facts straight:

    Season 2′:

    1×01 – good
    2×02 – very good
    2×03 – good
    2×04 – okay
    2×05 – bad
    2×06 – epic
    2×07 – okay
    2×08 – bad
    2×09 – epic
    2×10 – very good

    Season 3:

    3×01 – okay
    3×02 – good
    3×03 – very good
    3×04 – epic
    3×05 – epic
    3×06 – bad
    3×07 – good
    3×08 – will be very good at least, if not epic
    3×09 – will be the best episode of the series so far
    3×10 – probably epic

    Conclusion: this season is being way better than the last one.

    “Facts.” Sure.

  32. Ser Hound
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    GoT:
    It’s kinda off-topic, but I wonder why there are people complaining about this season.

    Let’s get the facts straight:

    Season 2′:

    1×01 – good
    2×02 – very good
    2×03 – good
    2×04 – okay
    2×05 – bad
    2×06 – epic
    2×07 – okay
    2×08 – bad
    2×09 – epic
    2×10 – very good

    Season 3:

    3×01 – okay
    3×02 – good
    3×03 – very good
    3×04 – epic
    3×05 – epic
    3×06 – bad
    3×07 – good
    3×08 – will be very good at least, if not epic
    3×09 – will be the best episode of the series so far
    3×10 – probably epic

    Conclusion: this season is being way better than the last one.

    Kudos to you for being able to describe every single episode with a single word. Great work, guy!

  33. Darquemode
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 2:20 am | Permalink

    John-Michael,

    There is one .
    It’s in the episode extras I linked in both the episode recap and the open chat.
    It can be found here:
    http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/05/game-of-thrones-episode-307-bear-and_13.html

  34. Darquemode
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 2:59 am | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    After re-reading what I wrote I just wanted to say I was not trying to be a jerk. It’ hard to read every post when there are hundreds! XD

    I link the episode extras every week in my first comment on the episode recap tread if you want t see them in the future. Or you can click on the Game of Thrones tag on the site I linked and keep going back to look at the extras for previous episodes.

  35. Hear Me Roar
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 4:59 am | Permalink

    LordDavos12,

    That’s available in HBO Go videos for the episode, look for them on YT (hint: http://www.youtube.com/user/stevethepirate78).

  36. jennyofoldstones
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Your wife sounds terrific. I’m a book reader and also loved the scenes with Brienne, Jaime and the bear as well as the Theon scene.

  37. jennyofoldstones
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    Right. I felt the same way.

  38. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 5:39 am | Permalink

    GoT,

    umm, 2×02 was by far the worst episode of the entire series to date. Not sure how it got a ‘very good’ from you.

  39. jennyofoldstones
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 5:44 am | Permalink

    Admittedly Charles Dance is a great actor but there was always something that bothered me about Tywin’s characterization in the series and not only that but the implication that Tywin Lannister is such a ‘great’ man and leader and how everyone is afraid of him. I think I finally put my finger on it when he walked up those stairs to confront Joffrey in Episode 7. Joffrey, this little boy, is king. But NOT Tywin. If he is such a great man, WHY ISN’T HE KING? WHY DID HE NOT GO FOR IT?And to have such a great actor as Charles Dance play the part of a character whose story ISN’T GOING ANYWHERE is very misleading. For non-book readers this will be confusing, I’m sure, by the time his story ends.

  40. modiglian
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    jennyofoldstones:
    Joffrey, this little boy, is king.But NOT Tywin.If he is such a great man, WHY ISN’T HE KING?WHY DID HE NOT GO FOR IT?And to have such a great actor as Charles Dance play the part of a character whose story ISN’T GOING ANYWHERE is very misleading.For non-book readers this will be confusing, I’m sure, by the time his story ends.

    Because Tywin plotted the Robert Baratheon – Cersei Lannister wedding, he had no need to declare himself king and take the place of the Mad King, all the North and the Baratheons against him, and the strategical disadvantage of stretching his army West (Casterly Rock) to East (King’s Landing).

    Tywin isn’t stupid.
    Tywin’s story is going somewhere, to the… toilet XD

  41. WompWomp
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    jennyofoldstones,

    Think of Tywin as the Mandarin from Iron Man 3, if you’ve seen it. He knows where true power resides, and doesn’t need to be in the fancy chair to know it and show it. It’s a much more sophisticated approach to influence than merely stopping at/settling for the realm-wide lie of the Iron Throne.

  42. John-Michael
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    bon,

    Thank you guys!

  43. jennyofoldstones
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 8:31 pm | Permalink

    modiglian,

    Well, for me Tywin didn’t think things through and he doesn’t know his own children. For instance, Jaime wants nothing to do with Casterly Rock and material possessions and doesn’t care about being Tywin’s heir. He doesn’t recognize that his daughter Cersei is too stupid and too much of a fuckup to be fit for rule even as a Queen Regent. Most importantly, he doesn’t know Tyrion at all and doesn’t want to. He is a shallow, prejudiced man who seems to take all the credit for the heroic things others do for him, i.e. Tyrion being the one to take charge during the Battle of the Blackwater, with Tywin’s army being johnny-come-latelys. The spying and plotting behind the scenes in so many dirty ways is no inspiration for me to admire him as a character. And sooner rather than later in the books he gets his. See, aside from Charles Dance’s great acting, I see nothing to admire in the character.

  44. jennyofoldstones
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    WompWomp,

    I haven’t seen ‘Iron Man 3′ yet although I will. I love the movies. But I get it. I know what Tywin is trying to do but because he has no respect for Tyrion, the smartest and most capable of his children, and he respected Cersei a bit too much and totally overestimated how much Jaime cared about being his heir, that shows what a terrible judge of character he is. There is no way he would make a great leader with those flaws. Ultimately Tywin is just a puff of wind, isn’t he? He really didn’t blow very long or very hard.
    modiglian,

    Well, for me Tywin didn’t think things through and he doesn’t know his own children. For instance, Jaime wants nothing to do with Casterly Rock and material possessions and doesn’t care about being Tywin’s heir. He doesn’t recognize that his daughter Cersei is too stupid and too much of a fuckup to be fit for rule even as a Queen Regent. Most importantly, he doesn’t know Tyrion at all and doesn’t want to. He is a shallow, prejudiced man who seems to take all the credit for the heroic things others do for him, i.e. Tyrion being the one to take charge during the Battle of the Blackwater, with Tywin’s army being johnny-come-latelys. The spying and plotting behind the scenes in so many dirty ways is no inspiration for me to admire him as a character. And sooner rather than later in the books he gets his. See, aside from Charles Dance’s great acting, I see nothing to admire in the character.

  45. louise
    Posted May 15, 2013 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    Who was the bear in this episode ? I saw a credit for Bart the bear , but I thought he died years ago ????

  46. WompWomp
    Posted May 16, 2013 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    jennyofoldstones,

    Some non-reader reviewer astutely observed Tywin’s only potential weakness is precisely that, the utter disconnects between himself and his children. I maintain he is a great leader, as effective a ruler as the Seven Kingdoms has ever known, but his failures as a father keep him from being the perfect man.

    I really hope the show gets a scene with Kevan to contemplate the unspoken side of Tywin, the “best” part of him that supposedly died with Joanna. He’s such a compelling presence already. It would be fantastic for viewers to get that insight towards his inner life.

  47. WompWomp
    Posted May 16, 2013 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    louise,

    It is his cousin, Bart II. :)

  48. Greyfeather
    Posted May 16, 2013 at 3:08 am | Permalink

    Glad they took Simone Boyce off, she was deeply annoying.

  49. max60607
    Posted May 16, 2013 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    Until now for me this season is a failure.Except for Jamie and Briane story-line.They fail to build the characters.They made a horny goat from Stannis ,they made an emo kid from Jon Snow.They fail to make us care for Rob. They manage to transform the thriller from the north in a soap opera and “the teenage drama” of the khaleesi in something interesting.And I thing that`s HBO fault.

  50. novichaso
    Posted May 16, 2013 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    When are we seeing Asha in 3rd season? I hope next episode!
    And… what will she be doing?! I saw her with an army in the trailers… taking Deepwood Motte maybe? or Moat Cailin?


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