Second Songs
By Fire And Blood on in Editorial, Humor, Recap.

Twitter-BirdTweetsongs, that is!

FaBio here, back in SoCal, land of thigh-boots and butts. And you know what time it is! We’ve returned for our weekly foray, and boy oh boy, Twitter was good to us again!

You should have memorized this speech (and our process) by now: I, the anglophilic @Axechucker, with assistance from Croatia’s finest @The_Rabbit01 and (after being rudely kicked off for spamming) my bookish alter-ego @KRRCross, gather tweets from all the lands of lore; from here and there, high and low, and everywhere in between. We do not discriminate: we’ll take the lowliest tweet from the most reprehensible little guttersnipe if we think it will make our audience laugh. Or offend their senses.

(Preferably both!)

Tonight’s sweet little slices of cake were taken from tweets bearing the hashtags #GameOfThrones and/or #SecondSons. This week we had strong performances from @caseykassidy and @BigDamnedHerosSir, among many others, new and used alike. @dieslaughing killed it.

As per the norm, people liked to tweet things as they counted down the hours until the show…

@becca_diane11: Seriously if there is one more scene with Gendry with a shirt in HBO is getting a strongly worded letter

@silvites: i just turned over to my one direction posters and whispered to zayn, “game of thrones is stressing me out”

@bexclaere: FIRST GLIMPSE OF #REDWEDDING IN ONE HOUR.

Ah, Bex: Master Troller.

(BOOK READERS ONLY: if y’all want to see something REALLY funny, go follow THIS on Tumblr. When all’s said and done, this thing could be comedy gold.)

@MandskiThax: “@Derek__Foreal: Is your name Winter? Because you’ll be coming soon. #GameOfThrones” best line ever. Would totally work

‏@BeautyBrienne: 33 minutes. Starting a prayer circle for Joffrey to get slapped tonight. Or shanked. Preferably shanked. With a spoon.

Cousin, why a spoon?

@AlexDangerHart: Game of Thrones or What Would Ryan Lochte do? Decisions

LOL.

@keirsten_volpe: Taylor swift or Game of thrones?! Haha is that even a question..

LOL!

@VisionPoet: Right now, somewhere in the world, there are wack rappers naming themselves after #GameOfThrones characters.

@clark_da_shark: I kinda wanna know what everybody’s watching but game of thrones comes on in less than 15 so I really don’t care.

@MercifulMalacai: Can’t wait for Daaaaaaaaario!

@Imbr1one: I think tonight we get to see Daario???

tumblr_mb1a7v7AST1qirte4

SEXY IS COMING.

@tomandlorenzo: Is there ever an episode of #GameofThrones without a warning for violence, strong sexual content, and nudity? LOL

Yes, else we wouldn’t get tweets like these:

@b_macdaddy: You can tell how good a Game of Thrones episode is going to be by the amount of parental guidance warnings at the beggining.

@motelsonthemoon: Sexual content???? #PleaseDearGodNo #Sansa

Worry not: Tyrion has class.

So we started out somewhere in the Riverlands, with the Hound taking his pet Arya for a ride…

@BrutalStephanie: The Hound is so sneaky. Do it Arya!

@Ebradley127: Little Arya, balls of steel.

@SansaStarkss: “Fuck Joffrey and Fuck the queen too.” I am Sandor Clegane.

@NiceQueenCersei: Aww… Sandor is telling Arya such a sweet story.

@VirtualSatyr: See Arya, The Hound is just a little puppy.

@HarleyHorcrux: SanSan shippers are dying right now

“GET AWAY FROM HIM, ARYA, YOU LITTLE HUSSY!”

@motelsonthemoon: “We must hurry to the wedding! I have to catch the bouquet,” Sandor thought.

@CaseyCakeyCat: casual riding story about your sister’s near-rape #asyoudo #cheery

@greggnunney: Am I the only one who wants Arya and The Hound to release a duet in time for Christmas number one?

Maybe?

Across the narrow sea, overlooking Yunkai, we catch up with Dany and her posse…

@feellikepdiddy: Meanwhile in the desert with Daenerys…oh wait…I don’t care. #MereeneseKnotMyFavorite

You care.

We were introduced to the Second Sons, led by Mero: the Titan’s Bastard! They… made in impression.

@motelsonthemoon: The second sons are really classy. He definitely knows how to charm…oh where’d my pants go?!

@BeautyBrienne: I can’t wait to see these guys’ OK Cupid profiles.

@ZaraGTattoos: Oaft! The leaders of the Second Sons are no bad to look at!

@deefalc: He’s a creep though

@traceyke: The thirst is REAL with this guy.

@Only1EMARSH: THEY USED THE C WORD!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAOOOOOOOO

@Miss_Breeezy: Did he just sniff her coochie

@mithian_: omg Mero is a dick.

Mero was a bastard. A Titan’s Bastard! But actually, people seemed a lot more intrigued when we were introduced to one new character in particular:

@dieslaughing: It’s-a me! Daario

@DanVel1103: Well hello Daario..

@aerynsunx: Daario is a pretty thing, isn’t he?

@OlennaRedwyne: Heavens. Faabio Naharis?

@bexclaere: Daario wandered off a Rohan set 10 years ago and ended up in Essos

@r_beks: Daario? I don’t see no brightly colored hair? That ain’t him

@StarkSansa: daario, why don’t you have a colorful bead? where are your colorful clothes?

@lilshilo: Mmmmm #DaarioNaharis, mama likey

@JcanTediBear: That young guy with the long hair and nice eyes want to give Dany the D! :O

@KiaJD: Not how I pictured Daario but ok

@TVandDinners: So, Daario. Well done, #GameofThrones.

@BigDamnHerosSir: Mmmm look at that jawline. Daario… I love you against my better judgment. #StoryOfAllMyRelationships

@feellikepdiddy: Wait, Legolas is in this too? #DaarioNaharis

@kaiawrites: Dany looks like she thinks he’s charming

I think we can say she was intrigued!

@Cute4aTaste: When will these dumb niggas gonna start realizing that The Khaleesi is the WRONG bitch to try it with? #YallNeedToLearn

@MelissaFOlson: Yes, this is absolutely the best way to approach Daenerys. You’re not gonna die at all.

@LateLorraine: Ways to get Dany to murder your face off: have slaves, ask to see her cunt, doubt her master plan. #gameofsnark

@ChrisTomAdie05: Ser Barriston looked a bit Obi Wan Kenobi there.

@JFSasseville: I. love. Selmy.

I love Selmy too!

So we move over to Dragonstone…

@HEELSherrod: Meanwhile in the Metalocalypse themed war room of King Stannis.

@Char_IsTheFury: Praise R’hillor for having Stannis in this episode~~~

@feellikepdiddy: Now that I’ve been watching Skins I keep expecting Gendry to offer Mel some drugs #confusion

@teaANDbiscuitry: Do not touch Gendry. I swear to the old gods and the new

@LFCNASH: If Gendry dies I will really be gutted. And hate Melisandre, which I don’t want to happen.

@inkasrain: Gendry’s getting a bath? Interested.

@feellikepdiddy: If we don’t get a Gendry bath scene, I’ll be very put out. You do not want to wake the dragon.

@letsunwindxx: Lets watch this bumfuckery with #Gendry then. Douchebags. #gameofthrones #doesnthappen

“Doesn’t happen” is not a strong argument here, friend!

Down in the dungeons, we join Davos, who’s having a particularly uneasy time with a seemingly simple task:

@SDKacho: Today on Sesame Street, Elmo teaches Davos about the letter D

@KenGodbersonIII: Reading Rainbow starring Davos and Shireen.

Alas, no Shireen this episode!

@charlymarion: Shireen you shit, give an illiterate Davos a book full of Targaryen names? Harsh

Right?

“Vis… sen… y… uh…”

It’s like she was trolling him.

@onlytheholly: Also to give Davos some facetime, because he’s freaking AWESOME. #TeamOnionKnight

@bexclaere: Any scene with Davos reading is my favorite scene

@dieslaughing: Davos reads and my heart grows three sizes.

You may want to have that looked at.

@LyannaTargaryen: Silly Davos, why would a dragon want to swallow a whore’s hole?

@motelsonthemoon: eeee….eennnnnn…..ennnough…SWALLOW A HORSE FULL…”WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING GUYS!”

I feel like Shireen was sending him some sort of subliminal message. “It’s safer where you’re at, Ser Onion Knight. Just stay in prison, please.”

@Daenerys_TDrogo: Stannis missed Davos Aww…

@NiceQueenCersei: Just hug him all ready will you Stannie. Or kiss him. Davos won’t mind.

@inkasrain: “I came to free you from prison and probably death. Yeah whatever, don’t make a big deal about it, okay Davos?”

@nightxade: Poor Stannis trying to justify a burning.

@kiesh30: Stanis drinking the koolaid!

@kaependragon: If Gendry is killed, I will kill the writers. Simple as that.

Tough audience.

@pattycleo: Stannis Baratheon is so HOT!!! Remember when he was Thomas Jefferson?

WHY YES I DO.

Back across the Narrow Sea… the Second Sons were getting their plan on whilst the Titan’s Bastard dawdled a partially-dressed girl on his knee.

@wh00dini: Game of Thrones is basically Raven with less nudity

That’s So Raven!

Daario continued to get love:

@Samantha30191: Hi pretty boy. You must become a relevant character soon. #gameofsnark

@NakedDiary: This dudes dimple tho

@xoamelia: This rapey blond Fabio is kind of hot and I sort of hate myself for thinking so.

@cam_diesel: Valar Morghoulis. Is this Daario nigga gonna conjure up Jacquen H’gyar?

@dieslaughing: Daario’s lady swords = the #GameofThrones equivalent of naked lady profiles on your mudflaps.

I think that one won the internet.

At King’s Landing, Tyrion meets with Sansa in preparation for their wedding…

@BeautyBrienne: I’m so glad Sansa’s creeper doll grew hair.

I didn’t even notice that thing until third viewing.

@Nassaru: OMG SANSA AND TYRION ARE TALKING

@bexclaere: Sansa hate in 3…2…1…

@CWolfski: I do not like Sansa one bit…

@BigDamnHerosSir: “Do you drink wine?” “When I have to” “Well, today you have to” #MYMOTTOFORLIFE

@becca_diane11: Sansa = worst partier ever #ionlydrinkwhenihaveto

@marydoesnttweet: I WILL MARRY YOU TYRION. AND I DRINK WINE.

@Miss_Rayychiie: Sansa you Cray. I’d happily marry tyrion just for his humour if nothing else

“He makes me laff.”

@kaylinfroehlich: IS THIS THE WEDDING DAYYY??

WHY YES IT IS.

So on to the wedding we go!

@heyjulieann: LORAS WE CAN ALL SEE YOU FLIRTING CAN YOU NOT

@TakashiMifune: Lena Headey has some extremely emotive eyebrows.

@MeetJaneBlack: Cersei is like, “Bitch, get your fucking hands off of me!’

@Sir_Davidio: “If you ever call me sister again, I’ll strangle you in your sleep.” OH CERSEI

‏@BigDamnHerosSir: Lena Headey has been unfortunately under-featured this season. I understand how the story goes, but I love her and want more

@asking52: Cersei goes hard.

@caseykassidy: Cersei: I see through you bitch. Margery: I’ve got your number you old hag.

@Allahschild: Stop Cersei, nobody is afraid of you. Margaery is wearing her “Bitch, please” face

@heyjulieann: cersei do you think margaery is stupid, or?

@themazcast: That is the kind of conversation I think my sister and my girlfriend have had.

@sheeponthemoon: Cersei is having none of your shit Margaery ^^ Christ I hate Cersei but that was fab!

Well she certainly won that one. But the longterm game? Probably hurt it there. Lena gets some serious props for this episode.

Actually, all the Lannisters should—Sansa included!

@racheyyjaynee: Sansa Lannister sounds wrong. It is wrong.

Sansa Lannister. Yeahhhhhhh.

(I may be Fire and Blood, but I am a Lannister through and through. Sansa! Restore the Roar!)

‏@eshowoman: One day Daddy Lannister is going to die. What will the Lannister twins do then? #demthrones

@dieslaughing: And there’s Lord Tywin, dressed in black leather like he’s hanging out front the Rocky Horror Picture Show. God bless.

@queeninthenorth: Well at least Sansa’s dress is absolutely gorgeous

@LauraEliz1021: Sansa’s dress is magnificent.

@mherr1979: Holy crap, Sansa is REALLY fucking tall.

So is Sophie! Perfect casting is perfect.

@MonicaKaye: Wow. Can’t believe they’re actually going through with it.

@_vulpesvulpes: Oh hell fucking no Joffrey!

@vivaciousvirgo: JOFFREY IS SO FUCKING SICKENING!

@JodiMat: Why is Joffrey’s crown always askew? He sucks.

@Lem889: Joffrey is my favorite character and jack Gleeson is brilliant #truth #facts #thatface

@Tyler2ONeil: Wedding bells! And Joffrey removes the stool… #bastard! #poortyrion

@BigDamnHerosSir: Shit, Joff just walked off with that fuckin’ step stool. Like a cunt.

‏@motelsonthemoon: Tyrion should find Littlefinger and ask if he can borrow his ladda.

IT’S A LADDA.

@stripedteacups: Oh, Sansa. I want to cry.

@Alexthefalex: Everybodys getting married why they so sad? Marriage happy; they doing it wrong

They doing it wrong indeed.

@MstrColm: Poor Sansa, Poor Tyrion

@davguna: Worst. Wedding. Ever.

Weddings in Westeros: “It gets better.”

@heyjulieann: OH HEY AT LEAST THERE’S ONE CLOAK.

@StreetzTalk: Lmao Tyrion just clocked her like James brown

Say, @motelsonthemoon, what’s on your mind?

@motelsonthemoon: IF THEY MAKE SANSA KNEEL I WILL CUT A BITCH

@motelsonthemoon: THEY BETTER NOT RUIN IT….DEAR GOD…D and D DO NOT FUCKING RUIN THIS!

@motelsonthemoon: DO NO KNEEL WOMAN! DO NOT KNEEL!

She knelt.

@motelsonthemoon: alkdfjas;lfu ieufa;lkj;laej ;liafj;lifj ;lfj iaejfaeij ;lfj aesfji fjs;lifj FUCK THIS HSHOW FUCK IT ALL FUICLJV;liadv;laef

@eriktopham: First Yahoo, and now Sansa kneels. This truly is tumblr’s darkest day.

@inkasrain: They had her kneel? Tumblr ain’t gonna like that.

By happenstance, Motels is active on Tumblr! She goes under the pseudonombre lemonadeontheyard.

Go follow her now!

@queeninthenorth: She wasn’t supposed to fucking kneel. YOU TOOK AWAY THE ONE ACT OF DEFIANCE SHE WAS ALLOWED

For me… at first I didn’t like the fact that she knelt. I was at my computer doing the re-Tweet thing (instead of watching) and my wife yelled over from the living room, “SHE KNELT.”

Of course I immediately knew what that meant: TUMBLR MELTDOWN. But aside from Tumblr meltdowns (which are awesome to behold), I didn’t like it. It was essentially what the tweeter above just said is was: Sansa’s one act of defiance—gone.

But on rewatch, and in the context of the scene, I think it was fine, and it played out logically. I think too many non-book readers—people who don’t have the privilege of having Sansa as an actual PoV—wouldn’t have understood why she chose THAT place to have her moment of stubbornness.

Now… could they have reworked the buildup so as to make her refusing to kneel an action that seemed in-character? Probably. Could they have had her refuse and make Tyrion ask twice? Possibly. But they didn’t. (Maybe they didn’t have Dontos any more, I’m not sure.) In the end, it worked. The scene continued to be excellent.

But yes. It could have been better. And Sansa could have had her moment.

But they didn’t, and non-book readers were none the wiser.

Anyway! Back at Dragonstone…

@dieslaughing: Wait, so…Melisandre just gets Gendry delivered to her room? The Lord of Light is GOOD

@BeautyBrienne: No, Gendry. Humans taste like pork, not chicken.

@feellikepdiddy: That what people who eat McDonald’s pretend about the “chicken” too, Gendry

@CaseyCakeyCat: Fun fact number 132 about Flea Bottom, thanks Gendry

@lucchaser: Stop drinking & eating shit from her!! Ur gonna die!!

@NiceQueenCersei: Oh Gendry. You know nothing. But I have a funny feeling Melisandre is about to teach you.

@AKA_Qthulhu: Melly using that old Jesus Juice routine, hee hee, shamone!

Hooo! Dah!

So Melisandre began to really cozy up to Gendry, and the internet began to get really nervous…

And then that all went away. Because Gendry’s shirt came off.

@Big_Pants: Topless Gendry alert!

@jessicabear: HELLLLLLOOOOOOO GENDRY

@LoriTweets: HOLY GENDRY.

@inkasrain: GENDRYABS

@becca_diane11: Maybe my letter writing campaign paid off #shirtlessGendry

@feellikepdiddy: #shirtlessGendry I have no more complaints

@AmyDied: Yes, I am only interested in Gendry when he’s topless.

@erma_striker: I swear Joe Dempsie has a perfect body.

@comedianpbean: At least he’ll get laid before his potential murder..

It’s a plus.

@traceyke: OH SHIIIT! RED HEADED NUDITY!!! YAAAAAAY!!

@Rey_Ston: You need to get naked to “sacrifice” him? Okay…

@DELVABORNO: the red woman is about to get her stagatory rape on #demthrones

@deefalc: This really bothers me, don’t defile Gendry!!!

@digitaltempest: Why is there not any R. Kelly playing during this scene? This is an outrage.

@eosmaxine: I have a feeling someone’s gonna be making more shadow babies soon… #ihopeimwrong

@caseykassidy: Melisandre is kind of a hussy. Although,I bet if Jehovah’s Witnesses tried this tactic a lot more people would let them in

@BigDamnHerosSir: Gendry clearly needs a safe word.

@eriktopham: This could be soooo much worse for Gendry. All she wants is some blood, she could be getting him into Amway and crystal meth.

@shababe18: Look at her she just raping the poor boy

@SuzzzzW: I wonder if Gendry is thinking about Arya.

@mcampbell1024: Always so raunchy

People. It’s just sex. Sex is funny. Have you ever seen it?

Just watch it. It’s funny. Shit bounces around, all weird.

@marydoesnttweet: For Gendry’s sake, I hope Stannis doesn’t burst in with a horn and hooked knife.

Amen.

@natashawatches: It’s good to know that crazy religious reasoning sounds crazy no matter the religion.

Amen!

@BigDamnHerosSir: If I follow the Lord of Light, do I get to fuck Gendry? ‘Cause I am TOTALLY down.

@robot_gypsy: Yeah, I wouldn’t be an atheist if there was a god who commanded me to have sex with people who look like Gendry.

Amen!!!

But some fans weren’t so much concerned with Gendry’s safety as they were his junk.

@karenlovesshoes: Damn it. Those trousers didn’t go doen far enough

@SayWhatSugar: Biggest tragedy this season RT @liquebot we almost saw his penis. i’m upset.

@BigDamnHerosSir: WE WERE SO CLOSE TO SEEING GENDRY’S BIZ-NASS. FUCK YOU, THIS SHOW! #illbeinmybunk

So Hot Pie fans love to scream “Hot Pie!”

Gendry fans?

They just love to scream.

@deefalc: GENDRY DONT DO IT SHE’S EVIL!

@lilyy_maidment: IF THEY KILL OFF GENDRY I WILL NOT BE HAPPY

@BubblewrapJoy: DON’T FUCK HER EITHER YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!

@oldapartment: OH NO OH NO WHAT IS EVEN GOING ON? MELISANDRE, YOU ARE SO WEIRD AND GROSS AND HORRIBLE.

@becca_diane11: Get away from him Mel!!! Back off!!

@Neekcreep: NO LEAVE HIM ALONE YOU RED DEMON

@YgrittetheWild: Save Gendry, Davos! Save his abs!

@jamiedutton: WELL THIS WASN’T IN THE BOOKS!

@GoHugYourself: This is so wrong. I hate that Benioff and Weiss are making shit up & not following the books. Not a happy fan at all.

@dieslaughing: I’m probably alone in this, but I don’t mind the collapsing of the Gendry/Edric storyline. Davos and Gendry could be besties!

You’re not alone!

Look, guys. I get that some people want the show to hew as close to the literary source as humanly possible. But some things just don’t make a lot of sense in the dollars and cents department. The “Melisandre wanting Robert Baratheon’s bastard’s blood” is kind of essential to the Dragonstone story. But what role would Edric Storm have aside from being in Gendry’s shoes? I LOVE this change. There would be zero purpose in casting an Edric Storm, save for this scene. And then what do you do with the actor once you have him? He’d just be taking up space, akin to Grand Maester Pycelle this season.

What they’ve done is take a popular character and given him an expanded and relevant role. Because if not, what further use does Gendry (and Joe Dempsie) serve?

Two birds: meet your one stone. I think the writers handled this dilemma excellently. Kudos.

@MaesterPycelle: Leeches on a cock and…. twitter explodes.

@BigDamnHerosSir: OH SHIT! LEECH ON THE JUNK! #guessthatswherethemostbloodisrightnow

@YgrittetheWild: NOT A LEECH ON THE WEENIE!

@kate_pirouette: Putting a leach in a blokes pants after sexy time is just bad manners!

@SirJohnCard: Gordie LaChance feels for Gendry right now. #StandByMe

@oceanafern: MY BROTHER WALKED IN WHILE HE’S SAVING SEX WITH HER AND HE RAN AWAY CRYING

Are you sure it wasn’t the leeches tho

@HoganMcLaughlin: Gendry + leeches = this week’s OTP

Hogan is always good for at least one OTP per episode.

So we’re ready to go to Tyrion and Sansa’s wedding reception!

But before that, let’s check in with @Motelsonthemoon and see how she’s doi—

‏@motelsonthemoon: STILL SUPER PISSED AT THE WEDDING! SANSA NOT KNEELING WAS THE ONLY THING SHE COULD ACTUALLY CONTROL IN HER LIFE!

Hm. Still not handling it well. Still very angry.

There is an obscure prophesy that says @AngryGoTFan will reign until a younger more beautiful queen rises to take his place. I wonder…

Well, Angry GoT Fan better watch his back, is all I’m sayin’.

@westwingwolf: Grandma Tyrell is always willing to out the fuckery within the Lannister family.

@mrcbehan: Queen of thorns rocks

@HoganMcLaughlin: After another rewatch, it’s clear that the one true OTP (redundant?) is Margaery and that blue gown

‏@BigDamnHerosSir: “Hi, I’m Loras and I’m gonna try and make conversation” “Hi, I’m Cersei. Go fuck yourself.”

@feellikepdiddy: Loras is just mad he wasn’t the bride

@NiceQueenCersei: Oh Loras. How awkward is this. I will destroy you. Bye.

@HEELSherrod: Cersei is on a roll Tyrells are getting shut down left and right…if she backhands Olenna we call that a Westerosi hat trick

@cam_diesel: Fuck. Joffrey.

@FordIsInTheRoom: Joffrey makes me want to shoot my tv

@divinemadness: just when you think you couldn’t hate Joffrey any more than you already do…

@sayhey2kay: Joffrey is the devil

@desipoo26: When I think Joffrey can’t get any worse…he of course gets worse.

I still think quarreling Ros to his bed post still ranks highest. Pretty much!

@ladycatelyn: i literally foam at the mouth when people say “sansa brought this shit on herself”

Pavlov’s Cat.

@douchebaggette: That would be an unfortunate woody.

@motelsonthemoon: Wooden cock? What have you been going through Varys secret box again Tyrion?!

@Obienator: Tyrion is channeling Hank The Angry Dwarf, babaooey bababooey!

@billiwilliams: Drunk Tyrion is the best Tyrion.

@ClassicalJG: From now on, Tyrion should be drunk every week

@kaiawrites: I. Love. Tyrion.

@Dirt_Monkii: Lord Tirian. What a legend!

@BBR1394: Tywin is a glorious asshole. Let Tyrion get as drunk as he wants, for God’s sake.

@StephenCBiddle: “If you’re going to give her one, you need to perform.” Ladies and gentlemen, Tywin Lannister.

@secret_one_: I can´t wait for Tywin Lannister to read the next chapter of 50 Shades of Grey

Your wish is my command.

@WillardFoxton: THAT IS EXACTLY HOW I WANT MY WEDDING TO GO

@inkasrain: The groom is drunk. The bride is terrified. The king is raving. What a beautiful affair.

@LDNCalling: I’ve been to weddings like that

I have not!

@BrianNeall: Wedding Receptions in Game Of Thrones are…..interesting

@motelsonthemoon: Reason number 24 why I’m single…I told my boyfriend that when we get married I want a Kingslanding Reception…

That could be… a… part of the reason…

Later, Tyrion and Sansa prepare to consummate their union. A happy occasion for all!

@Daenerys_TDrogo: Did Tyrion indirectly call Sansa a giraffe?

@Lem889: Sanaa’s like yeah time to get drunk

@lysha_lyss: I would drink too if I was Sansa.

@kaiawrites: oh no baby girl, you’re gonna need more likka than that

@MikeLowreyNJ: Lady Sansa took one shot of Merlot to the head and ready to smash…typical

@_FergyB_: If I was Sansa Stark I’d be straight on that dwarf cock.

Are you implying she’s not straight?

The Sansaery shippers would be very happy with that.

They were probably also happy when she started to undress.

@SupermanRob2914: Is Sansa old enough for a nude scene? SMH

@B_u_M_b_L_B_e_E: I weep for Sansa

@MelissaFOlson: Wait, Sansa’s taking off her OWN dress? Doesn’t she have people to do this kind of thing? Oh, wait…

@Untouchable128: Omg! Poor Sansa! Don’t do it!

@HotelFoxtrot: Sansa, don’t you know all the ladies are team Dinklage? #SillyGirl

@becca_diane11: Truth hurts Tyrion

@BlackGirlNerds: I think Sansa just hurt Tyrion’s feelings with that statement

@stripedteacups: Tyrion and Sansa are making me cry.

@Cybersoulja: Tyrion putting himself in the friend zone.

@sagevalentine: Tyrion Lannister is the man. That is all.

@laurenarankin: tyrion lannister is kicking rape culture’s ass.

@xoamelia: Fuck me, Tyrion is the besssssst.

@sarameshael: Tyrion… You are a giant among men.

@dieslaughing: That Sansa and Tyrion scene was breathtaking. Just amazing.

@SB_Co: Peter fucking Dinklage >>>>>>>>>>>>> #GameofThrones

This was Dinklage and Turner’s episode, really. So freaking good.

Well, and Daario’s episode.

And Gendry’s abs’ episode.

Back across the Narrow Sea we sail again…

@feellikepdiddy: I always bring my copper bathtub along when I travel

@Daenerys_TDrogo: Missandei knows 19 languages I knew she was a good investment

@Lifeofawizard: god she knOWS 19 FUCKING LANGUAGES

And you? Look at your life. Look at your choices.

@cam_diesel: OHHHHH so he’s making a power play to get with Khaleesi and be the king.

@StreetzTalk: Daario fighting for box

@caseykassidy: Any man that brings you the heads of his former friends on a first date is a keeper Dany!

@delphrano: holy shit…Captains in a Bag…did NOT see that coming. #DemThrones

If you want a pile of amusement, follow the #DemThrones hashtag any night in which Game of Thrones airs.

So… nudity happened.

TWITSPLOSION.

@birthdaycake24: Nipples!!

@Ironmikey1ikey: NIPS BATHTUB KHALEEEEESIIIIIII #ohgodicandieinpeace

@chiptharick: Its a boobie night on #gameofthrones

@dramakim: So. Much. Boobage. In. This. Episode.

@DPC123: I salute any lady who can get out of the bath so gracefully and sexily. #Daenerys

@Mr_KerryB: aww yeah naked Khaleesi #GameofThrones fapfapfapfap

@MercifulMalacai: I will argue with anyone that Dany has the best butt in Westeros. TALISA FANS I WIL FIGHT U #roundforthepound

@Newmerm: Khaleesi naked, life complete.

‏@jlmaine: So many naked people tonight on game of thrones

@jmuddles: Casting application for Game of Thrones: 1) will ye agree to be filmed nude-wide? 2) a lot? 3) front too? 4) yer hired

I could so get on this show!

@High_SuperMan: There’s a lot of sex in this show. But its weird knights and pale ugly chicks…. #DadShow

I love the above tweet. And I’m not sure why. Maybe because I’m a dad. #DadShow

@Sir_Davidio: Can’t wait to see the polarized responses to Daario. :3

You have no idea.

Well, actually, now you do. And here are some more!

@TracyDawn2802: I ❤ Daario

@jessicabear: Daario is hot as fuck god damn

@quasiperfetta: Daario can seriously get it.

@nyaradenadai: Daario, seu lindo <3

@uwish527: New celebrity crush: the actor that plays Daario

@Amlys: May the swooning over Daario Naharis commence!

@SeattleSlim: Get into THAT, Khaleesi! *bats eyelashes*

@DrunkAjumma: One approves of Dario! Yes indeed :)

@BuxxyBunny: Daario is a fox. Yes. I would beat.

Please do not beat the Daario.

@r_beks: Daario got some jacked up teeth yo

He could use a few gold ones, amirite??

@eazyrooster: So, is Daario Naharis as attractive to the viewers as he is to Dany? I guess he does seem like a pretty dude.

@BeautyBrienne: I’m glad Daario’s not as sticky as he’s depicted in the books but he’s still a douchecurd.

@heathertw_: yeah ok I’m a little pissed daario doesn’t have his blue hair and three pronged beard but he’s still hot so I’m cool

@spiffykt: I imagined Daario as a person of color and the fact that he’s basically Fabio is really annoying me.

@SheilaVee: I hate the actor @hbo cast as Daario Naharis. Not at ALL what Daario is supposed to be like.

@TaTasAndWine: ‘You have my heart.’ You also have his cock, judging by the smile.

@DarthRachel: all i wanted out of Second Sons was a shot of Daario’s ladies. SUCCESS. SO HAPPY. #sexyiscoming

@Daenerys_TDrogo: That is how you make a Tyroshi Captain bend the knee.

Leftenant.

@stripedteacups: Well, Ser Jorah Mormont is not going to like this shit.

@TheDamnBeast: I really like what they’re doing with Dany’s plot and the Second Sons. Where the hell is Strong Belwas though?

@motelsonthemoon: I must be the only person who does not find Daario attractive….I want the guy with the scar and the dirty mouth..

Okay, about Daario…

SOAPBOX TIME! (Some book spoilers below.)

Daario from the books wouldn’t have worked. Period, end of story. His hair and three-pronged beard are dyed blue. His mustachios are painted gold. He has a gold tooth. He’d be a joke, pure and simple.

tumblr_m92x2wGeS41r1si4po1_500

That said, I did not like how Daario was depicted. Ed Skrein is fine in the role—dude’s got plenty of swag—but I feel like they prettied him up too much. Some people have argued that he needed to be extremely attractive, else people wouldn’t understand why Daenerys might even give him half a moment’s consideration, and I don’t agree.

What some people don’t get is that Daario is supposed to make people question Dany. Daario is the Essosi equivalent of the gold-toothed, tattooed, fake-gangsta rapper you can’t fucking believe you just caught your girlfriend in bed with. He’s supposed to make you go, “Well there’s no way a woman would go for this…” and then you’re forced to rethink your perceptions when she does.

“Oh, they’d never buy a grungy, ostentatiously dressed guy with bad teeth…”

jack-sparrow_9hTxHCH

Do tell.

They had an opportunity to create their very own Captain Jack Sparrow, and instead went with Will Turner. Or Legolas. Or what have you.

That said… how did non-book readers react to Daario Naharis?

Overwhelmingly positive.

So in the end, my criticism doesn’t hold a whole lot of water. My argument is invalid. The show is an adaptation, and we want to see it adapted as best we can. Ed Skrein’s Daario looks to be a success with extreme majority of fans… and that, ladies and gents, is all that really counts.

Soapbox done.

We return to King’s Landing and rejoin our blushing (and hungover) newlyweds in their state of wedded bliss…

@BigDamnHerosSir: Aww Tyrion passed out on the loveseat… just like me, yesterday night #toomuchwine #justkidding #rightamountofwine

@AKA_Qthulhu: “Podrick, you know how to please whores, take Shae and 10 Dragons if you can shut her up about being a funny whore”

@combledore: Dear Shae: shut up.

SHE HARDLY SAID ANYTHING.

@MojaveFoneBooth: Surely there must be a fan club for Shae the Funny Whore?

I’m in it! Show Shae is WAY better than Book Shae. Shae haters can bite me.

@YgrittetheWild: And suddenly Shae’s mood improves upon seeing clean sheets.

@MindyBe: Think Shae should put some blood on those sheets just in case someone else checks.

@CherylGriffiths: The Sansa and Tyrian storyline is so well written and brilliantly acted. Makes me sad. :(

It’s very good. Fantastic writing, acting, and directing. All around.

Finally, North of the Wall, we catch up with Samwell and Gilly…

@BeautyBrienne: Did Sam eat the baby yet? No? Good.

@aerynsunx: Aww, daddy Sam is so sweet. And Gilly gathers firewood cuz she’s good at that shizzle.

@HotelFoxtrot: Gilly is so delightfully inbred.

@DonaldJr: Can’t figure out who is dumber Sam or Gilly.

@mpetitpre: Who thinks of “Duncan” as the 1st boy name to suggest? Only Samwell Tarly…

Maybe he hopes it will make him tall?

@theSamwellTarly: And, listen, “Not-Randyll” is still a shitty name for a baby.

@motelsonthemoon: “We should name him Jesus.”

@karltmeakin: Did Sam just suggest Guy-man as a name for the baby? Fucking Daft Punk everywhere!

@eriktopham: John Bradley-West CRUSHING it with the pro lip quiver.

@Cybersoulja: This nigga trying to play step daddy and they don’t even have a fire for the night.

@feellikepdiddy: And then Sam rolls over and squishes the baby

Damn, girl.

@TheYumkasFellow: Prediction: Sam is just a young George R R Martin.

@RexDeLaCoeur: Question: where is Ghost? Is he lowkey protecting Fat Sam?

@themazcast: Those crow sounds are freaking me out

@Soulrific: Crows everywhere. This can’t be good.

@scrffy78: All those crows can’t be good.

@ch_abs: I’m actually scared

@SavdbytheBelle: This game of thrones episode is scary

@hw_davies: Is this #GameofThrones or ‘The Birds’?

@CCozzetto: Hitchcock Game of Thrones

@mamisoniasita: Is Sam being brave????

@JaffaCakeQueen: You should never look, Sam! First rule of horror movies.

@BigDamnHerosSir: “Don’t go out there” That’s actually good advice, Sam. Birds are fuckers. HAVEN’T YOU SEEN #THEBIRDS?!

Birds are fuckers.

@bluecanary: oh sam bb. D:

@MarianYK2: Shit!! Zombie walker!!!

@ChrisWi3: White Friggin Walkers!!!

@xSpence89x: The white walkers on #gameofthrones scare the shit out of me! #nolie

@traceyke: HOLY HELL! I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THE WHITE WALKERS! SHIT IS REAL!

@freezingkiss: Aw SHIT SHIT DON’T DIE SAM PLEASE

@heyjulieann: WHY DID YOU DROP THE FIRE FIRE IS THE BETTER WEAPON

@Lifeofawizard: it is ITS THE FUCKING KING OF WHITE WALKERS

@YgrittetheWild: Is that Bob?

@BeautyBrienne: BOB! White Walker Bob! We’ve missed you!

We loved White Walker Bob. Alas, his watch too is ended.

game-of-thrones-white-walker-funko-pop-bobble-head

Consider this your curtain call, Bob. You will be missed.

Because SAM THE SLAYER happened!

@ThaNardDawg: SAMWELL TARLEYYYYY!!!!! COMING IN CLUUUTTTTCCHHH

@Lifeofawizard: the fuck kind of blade was that

@mpetitpre: Dragonglass, bitches.

@mark_d78: Wow, go Samwell, go dragonglass.

@Andrew_MurCEEYA: I swear Sam has 9 lives

@SavKatSims63: I would straight up marry Samwell Tarley.

@CStahls: Sam the Slayer!

@jorge_decastro: Sam the slayer!!!

@theSamwellTarly: SAM THE SLAYYERRRRRR

@theSamwellTarly: I was totally yelling “KHHHAAAANNNNN” when I stabbed that white walker.

Did they whitewash the White Walker too?

Of course every good decision Sam makes is followed by a bad one…

@l_hollomon: Sam has good intentions but he is an idiot. #lefttheknife

@Whiteliphant: TAKE THE FUCKING KNIFE, TAKE THE KNIFE WITH YOU, DAMNIT!

@IfIWereMagneto: WTF DID SAM JUST KILL IT?! AND THEN LEFT THE GODDAMN THING BEHIND?!?!

Here’s to hoping he uh…. took more than just that one dagger…?

So it ended on that note!

SAM THE SLAYER was an obvious win.

@MikeStephens311: AHHHHHHHH GAME OF THRONES

@beieeutiful: OMGASKDJHASKDJHASKDJHADKJHASKDJHA!!!!

‏@nikirokicki: THAT WAS AWESOME.

@mckrisp: Blimey – that was scary

@_DireWolf: Game of thrones ended EPIC AF!!!!

@becca_diane11: Also the white walker death is much more intense than in the books

@Sir_Davidio: Sam the Slayer scene was very well done, IMO

It was done excellently.

@stnathaniel: Game of Thrones, why are you doing this to me? #TheFeels

@Only1EMARSH: I can’t BREATHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOD EPISODE!!!! ENCORE TONiGHT!!!!

@DjPritzNotta: #GameOfThrones – EPIC!!!

@moskalrulz: So sam’s story didn’t suck this week

@hrgrothues: An episode without Jaime and Brienne is an episode of bullshit! Also, let’s hope those leeches kill Joffrey.

@xoxo_anonymous: Jon Snow-less episodes of #GameOfThrones should be against the law or something. #GiveMeJonSnow

@Lem889: I feel like nothing has really happened the past two weeks on game of thrones I’m ready for heads to roll etc

@RiDdLe_7: Thrones just got real.

Angry GoT Fan checked in briefly, but he kept sidetracking his own damned self:

@AngryGoTFan: SO MANY TIMES ILL START WRITING SOMETHING AND BEFORE I CAN FINISH SOME OTHER ANGER TAKES OVER

Surely something was worth taking in a positive light from this episode?

@AngryGoTFan: LOVING HOW SANSA KNEELING IS BRINGING SO MANY INTO THE RANKS OF THE ARMY OF ANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #ARMYOFANGER #NOONEUNDERSTAAANDS

Anything else?

@AngryGoTFan: WHERE IS SWEET DONNEL HILL?!?!?!?! #SOSWEET #NOONEUNDERSTAAANDS

Sweet, sweet Donnel Hill. I miss that dude…

Twitter, in one of its more reflective moments, reflected on its favorite parts of the episode:

@iankristoferma: This episode didn’t get me hyped or anything but on the plus side, #Danaerys was naked again!

@Reve1ey: Khaleesi in the bath was the greatest tv moment ever

@CieranC: IT WAS LIKE HER BOOBS WERE JUST TWO FACES OF JESUS #KHALEESI

So much for Emilia never having to answer “What did it feel like to get naked onscreen?” questions.

So any thoughts on next episode?

No?

No one?

Nope. No one really cared about the specifics for the next one. Well, except…

@danagullard: Only two episodes left?! Noooo!!

@KMB2476: I HATE THAT THERE ARE ONLY TWO EPISODES LEFT!!!!

@wsdbail: All I want is Sansa Stark to fuckin kill a bitch. THATS ALL I WANT.

… Might not happen. But! The next episode is an Episode Nine. And someone ALWAYS dies in Episode Nine.

Plan on it.

Oh, and were the Twitter hordes happy when they heard about the epic Liberace biopic airing next Sunday instead of GoT?

Newp. They were not.

@Buy_A_lexis: In 2 weeks!?? Wtf

@Workaveli: 2 weeks til the next Game of Thrones? nooooooooooooo

@Schmidtyy93: ARE YOU KIDDING ME! A WEEKS BREAK!?!?!?!

@JunkyardMammal: TWO WEEKS UNTIL THE NEXT GAME OF THRONES?!?! I AM GONNA RAGE.

@ladystonehearts: WHAT THE FUCK GAME OF THRONES??? TWO WEEKS???? FUCK YOUR SHIT

@NakedDiary: Two weeks noooooooooo

@erica_bloom: In two weeks? Seriously? #cantwait

You can’t wait…

… and yet you have to.

See you in 2 weeks, my little birds!

~FaB~


136 Comments

  1. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 4:43 am | Permalink

    Hodor.

    Even though FaB retweeted me I didn’t make it into the recap ;__;

  2. DanyB
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 4:48 am | Permalink

    Hodor!

  3. babar
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 5:57 am | Permalink

    @marydoesnttweet: For Gendry’s sake, I hope Stannis doesn’t burst in with a horn and hooked knife.

    :D

  4. DanyB
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 6:35 am | Permalink

    These tweets in particular, really cracked me up:

    @dieslaughing: It’s-a me! Daario

    ‏@motelsonthemoon: Tyrion should find Littlefinger and ask if he can borrow his ladda.

    @BigDamnHerosSir: Gendry clearly needs a safe word

    @feellikepdiddy: I always bring my copper bathtub along when I travel

    @BeautyBrienne: Did Sam eat the baby yet? No? Good.

    @BeautyBrienne: BOB! White Walker Bob! We’ve missed you!

    Still laughing at these, great round up guys!

  5. gisizzlah
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Wednesday mornings are so much fun… my cup of tea… and GOT tweets!! i can now start my day….

  6. Jenny
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:52 am | Permalink

    Charles Dance reading 50 Shades had me cry in the tube today. People thought I was crazy…

  7. 0KEN0
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    Man, some people in this fan base are hilarious… the stuff they get upset about. Almost every episode it’s something.

    Melting down over Sansa kneeling? Really?! I’ve read ASoS 3 times… SoIaF is my favorite book series… I’m such a fan of the series/ show I’ve visited this site virtually every day for the last 3 years… yet, did I care about that change? Or course not!

    I can understand people getting upset about huge changes… but this nitpicking about minor details is sad. Don’t get me wrong, there have been changes to this series I didn’t like either… but damn, choose your battles!

  8. The Flayed Man
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    Good stuff as usual, FaB.

    But I should just clarify something I’ve been seeing a lot. Prendahl says “Lieutenant”. Yes, he pronounces it as “left-tenant”, but that is the British pronunciation of the word. It means the exact same thing, it’s simply a different pronunciation, and I don’t really see why a lot of US viewers are making such a big deal out of it!

  9. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Sansa kneeling makes no sense in the context of the show as her wedding wasn’t sprung on her by surprise. This is all a consequence of them putting in a (great) KL storyline that simply wasn’t present in the books.

  10. heyjulieann
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:03 am | Permalink

    Daario from the books wouldn’t have worked. Period, end of story. His hair and three-pronged beard are dyed blue. His mustachios are painted gold. He has a gold tooth. He’d be a joke, pure and simple.

    FUCKING THANK YOU. this is what i keep saying, yet tumblr keeps freaking the fuck out. someone actually went so far as to post the first description of daario from the books and i’m like, “and you seriously think that would have translated to the screen? nobody would fuck that.”

    show daario though. yes girl. #amancangetit

  11. Jenny
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

  12. Omar Brown
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    Yesh!!! One of my tweets made it in. Love these posts so much!

  13. Omar Brown
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    As a regular man, I disagree, she is a stunner from head to toe. IMHO.

  14. Al Swearengen
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    Since there’s going to be a hiatus could we please get another casting thread ?

  15. Al Swearengen
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    LOL someone is jealous. Emilia Clarke is stunning and she’s got a smoking body.

  16. Viola
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    Men aren’t puppies, love. You don’t stick any old bone in front of them and say it’s a steak, and they’ll believe you.

    Emilia is gorgeous. Her body is great, but that face! Beautiful.

    Edit: Forgot my thank you for featuring TaTasandWine’s tweet. Something was stirring in Daario and it wasn’t loyalty.

    And Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves reference! I love you guys.

  17. heyjulieann
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    Why so body-shame-y, bro?

  18. freoduwebbe
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    Thanks FAB. I love these – makes Wednesdays worth while.

    And everyone – lighten up on Sam… he’s a coward – he gave up being an heir cause he has no guts, he let Alistair Thorne have him beaten…… his ONE act of courage was to stand up for Gilly – he dug deep where no one expected and found courage – and what happens – the monster died…. and his brain froze… and he went back to his old RUN AWAY way of life… but he was sure to take Gilly with him. The ONE THING in life he found worth fighting for. He never EVEN looked to see what happened to that knife.

    besides, I’d run away in mindless terror from those birds too…..

  19. WompWomp
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:38 am | Permalink

    0KEN0,

    Honestly, Sansa refusing to kneel would have turned more viewers against her. People would hate her for embarrassing Tyrion and dragging it out. I felt the show’s compromise was smart. Just like Daario’s easier to like in the show, Sansa would be easier to dislike for makng Tyrion lose further face. It wouldn’t be in her show character either. She only knelt when directly asked to do so, which fits the show’s depiction of her perfectly.

  20. WompWomp
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Haha, I detect a little jelly in there too. (Sex goddess? Really?) There isn’t some set template for beauty Emilia does or does not embody. And we’re not just driven wild by her body either. It’s the sum of the character. I say character because I personally love Emilia as Dany (no matter the stumbles in the material such as last season), just as some of us love Joe Dempsie as Gendry. Can’t say I’m all that interested in Emilia outside of GoT.

    Part of it’s definitely her eyes for me. They were stunning from the first episode, even in their comparative deadness as it suited Dany’s character back then. There is a fullness there that I find uncommon and ethereal. I have to agree with the late Doreah here. I find myself attracted to eyes, the character in a face, before considering a woman’s body much.

    And damn, does she rock the hell out of those awesome white wigs. Top it off with some gutsy High Valyrian, and you’ve got one powerhouse of a lady, no matter your opinion of her as a candidate for the Iron Throne.

  21. mariamb18
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    I questioned Dany’s judgement about Daario because of his actions and behavior not because of his looks. I see a sellsword who chopped off the heads of his captains and switched sides. Dany sees a young, charming and daring man who tells her exactly what she wants to hear – the typical bad boy.

    I think that ShowDaario is perfect. Did they make him “prettier” for TV? Of course but they’ve made everyone prettier. Look at ShowJorah: he’s the opposite of BookJorah (thank goodness). ShowJorah is a stud.

  22. Snark
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Jenny: But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    I don’t want to agree… but I do. Not to say she’s not a good looking girl, but she’s not in the top tier either.

  23. WompWomp
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    mariamb18,

    I love how even I found myself liking Showrio’s surface. I can now relate to any feelings other characters may have towards him without wincing at the overlu exotic caricature we got on the books. I just hope the show doesn’t simply peg him as a watered-down love interest. Now that the instant appeal is established, some added complexity should be feasible.

  24. Red Hound
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:58 am | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    Should we talk about Gendry and the female audience? “Perfect body” as said in one of the tweets.

    Attraction is a very personal thing. I don’t find Clarke particularly attractive, especially not as a blonde.

  25. WompWomp
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    Snark,

    I find it interesting that there is such emphasis on her body as the primary beacon of attraction. I’m fairly sure wider perception of her is deeply colored by her powerful performance and dragon mastery in GoT more than anything else. I’ll concede being naked a few times did help get her on that mainstream radar, but only in combination with dragons. Not nearly as many people cared before the S1 finale. Being naked doesn’t actually make you famous on its own. If anything, it can be an impediment to gaining respect and fame, if the circumstances are inglorious enough. Emilia has gained traction for more than her body. It’s the combination of her character and the show’s FX budget that have burned an impression into male and female minds alike. We’re still feeling the reverberations from the dragons’ birthday. She is one of the faces of the show, to boot, and we know people love the show. That association rubs off. Most of the buzz around her is in relation to GoT, not Breakfast at Tiffany’s on Broadway.

  26. M
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Jenny,

    I love her body, but I love her confidence too. Yeah, she’s not 6 feet tall and 95 pounds (thank God) but she doesn’t care, and neither should anyone else.

  27. Red Hound
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    M:
    Jenny,

    I love her body, but I love her confidence too. Yeah, she’s not 6 feet tall and 95 pounds (thank God) but she doesn’t care, and neither should anyone else.

    Why exactly no one should care? People care all the time about the other people’s appearances, it’s part of the attraction game.

  28. QueenofThorns
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:04 am | Permalink

    Sexy Thomas Jefferson has a twitter too!!
    https://twitter.com/SxyTomJefferson

    …Stannis is sexier tho.

  29. Viola
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    Thank you for this. Thank you so much.

  30. mariamb18
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    Exactly. BookDaario was a uninteresting caricature. I look forward to seeing what Ed Skrien can bring to this role.

    And I agree with your assessment upthread about Sansa and her “non-kneeling” moment. It fits much better with what we have been presented with on the show. She had time to process this marriage.

  31. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    Ugh @ the negative Emilia body comments. She’s a stunner and I fail to see the point in dissecting why you think her body parts don’t measure up. Everyone has their own taste, true, but there’s no reason to put down an actress brave enough to get naked when the scene requires it. Body shaming sucks.

  32. Lya
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    heyjulieann,

    I agree, VERY body-shame-y, and disappointing since it’s (apparently) coming from a woman.

  33. queeninthnorth
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Yay I made it in! On rewatch of this episode I decided that Sansa kneeling does make more sense in the show as the wedding was really shown through Tyrion’s POV, not hers. Sansa is my favorite female character in ASOIAF and I loved her act of defiance during the wedding so my gut reaction was to be angry at them taking away her agency.

  34. outdoorcats
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Jenny,

    But…but…you realize that’s all SUBJECTIVE, right?

  35. feellikepdiddy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    The Flayed Man,

    Have US fans never seen a British war film? I confess I didn’t even notice because I know they’re the same. What a silly complaint!

  36. feellikepdiddy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    heyjulieann,

    I agree that the blue hair and beard wouldn’t have worked out but I also agree that they could have gone a little more Jack Sparrow with it—or something more flamboyant. Maybe Daario’s personality will still be as over the top in the books but he was a ridiculous character that had me rolling my eyes at “Really, THIS after Drogo?” which I think is kind of the point.

  37. The Winter Rose
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:45 am | Permalink

    I am definately on the side of fans who are enjoying eye-candy Daario. Sorry but I am soooo happy they didn’t stick to his original book description because that really would have looked ridiculous. I like this Daario WAY better.

    Also happy that there is a two week break since I will be away this weekend. I was worried about missing the Red Wedding.

  38. WompWomp
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    feellikepdiddy,

    But not unlike concerns surrounding Meereen, I don’t think a faithful adaptation of Daario will withstand the scrutiny of the audience. We are talking long periods of frustration here. I’d rather be charmed by Daario (as I am now, to my great surprise) before being wary or weary of him than roll my eyes from the moment he lands on the show. [laughs] In the same way, I hope they tighten and spice up Meereen to give the viewing audience more to care about up front.

    I’d really rather love this new Daario a little than hatewatch him as I do his book incarnation. At least in the show, he won’t be a transparent roadblock between Dany and Westeros that we can’t appreciate without the benefit of a flattering visual. Given the actors’ tremendous presence on-screen, I may even end up eating my jokes about Dany and Daario getting it on in a different position each week during the inevitable sixth season to pad out Dany’s flatlined storyline in ADWD. I’d love to see them naked together on the show. That would be amazing. Now I’m REALLY hoping Emilia’s not the actress Oona Chaplin spilled the never-nude beans about.

  39. M
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:57 am | Permalink

    Red Hound: Why exactly no one should care? People care all the time about the other people’s appearances, it’s part of the attraction game.

    I know, I phrased it poorly. It’s early here.

  40. Aoife
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:08 am | Permalink

    Hmm, I think I liked these Twitter posts more when there was less soapbox-ing. If you’re gonna take tweets that are largely coming in real time, it’s sort of disingenuous to go back after reflection and say “suck it up” when people have an immediate reaction (especially a negative one) while watching. I can definitely see why the show runners ignore all valid criticism, since they rarely get any that isn’t discounted from some angle by vocal fans from the get-go, like y’all. People aren’t allowed to be disappointed that Sansa’s wedding was all about Tyrion? That Tyrion has been made almost into a shining white knight character? That Daario is vanilla in his appearance? (I assume that he *really* likes brown, when it comes to his clothing.) That there are boobs and full-fledged female nudity all over the place, but when there’s an opportunity to *legitimately* take off a male character’s pants, omg no, we can’t have that?

    And hey, if 3 of the mods/contributors are getting to basically do show reviews, might as well let Fury and HmR have their say, too, geez.

  41. Jake Umber
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:10 am | Permalink

    Jenny,

    I do think Melisandre might be sexier on the screen. After seeing Emilia star in Breakfast at Tiffany’s a few months ago, and seeing her in the nude from the front row, I beg to differ from your statement. Her body was flawless. Perhaps that saying that the camera adds 10 pounds might be true after all..

  42. QueenofThorns
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Viola:
    QueenofThorns,

    you are most welcome my dear Lady!
    Thank you for this. Thank you so much.

  43. Silverstormm
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    0KEN0:
    Man, some people in this fan base are hilarious… the stuff they get upset about. Almost every episode it’s something.

    Melting down over Sansa kneeling? Really?! I’ve read ASoS 3 times… SoIaF is my favorite book series… I’m such a fan of the series/ show I’ve visited this site virtually every day for the last 3 years… yet, did I care about that change? Or course not!

    I can understand people getting upset about huge changes… but this nitpicking about minor details is sad. Don’t get me wrong, there have been changes to this series I didn’t like either… but damn, choose your battles!

    Likewise. That is all.

  44. Caravaggio
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Holy shit, thank you so much for that Robb Starkalypse tumbler. Will definitely add that to the post-Episode 9 reading list I’ve been compiling over the last day. It’s the first time I’m organizing which articles and forums to visit for reactions after this fateful episode.

    I am also relieved that there was a noticeable lack in AngryGoTFan’s tweets. Thank the Seven.

    Also, I’d like to know, who makes these graphics for your Twitter recaps? They’re funny and lovely. I like this week’s, and last week’s, the bear in the Twitter costume, was really cute!

    I swear, delaying THIS EPISODE 9 by two weeks will be the greatest stunt Game of Thrones pulls off. No Blackwater-esque dip in ratings for this one!

  45. Cary Storm
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 11:16 am | Permalink

    Did FaB just call his his “little birds” ? OMG.

  46. Selmy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    What did you say?

    What did you SAAAYY????

    Are you a man? No I don’t think so Jenny. She is amazingly hot naked and clothed.

  47. Clob
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, icky! If I saw her on the beach I’d run the other way. *eyeroll*
    http://emilia-clarke.net/gallery/albums/Appearances/2013/05-06/normal_0506_met_19.jpg

  48. Lamar
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    I would appreciate it if you could stop putting up tweets that included the n-word. As a black man, I find it highly offensive and don’t see the humor in it, when they are more clever tweets than those ones. I mean seriously, three times? I don’t care if it came from another black man, though in my case it’s usually from white home boys who thinks they are black, it still doesn’t make it right to do so. Does this site put up tweets when someone mentions the f-word (the derogatory term for homosexuals)?

  49. dizzy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    #Dadshow wins.

  50. Hawk
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    people should be over it now…the show simply cannot (won’t) depict the characters in shades of gray…it’s TV…as a viewer you are pushed to like or dislike certain characters by the way they are written…Catelyn, Jaime, Robb, Tyrion, Cersei have all undergone this treatment…they have all had the gray removed, or obfuscated, to a large degree…

    GRRM is bold and unafraid to present his characters in such a fashion, and let his readers struggle to make sense of the contradictions in the “heroes”…D&D, not so much…it’s TV, and they aren’t breaking the mold of anything…

  51. Jospeh
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Ahhhh Twitter recap after fucking up an exam is as awesome as Twitter recap normally is. My only issue, not enough Angry. Never enough Angry

  52. Nick_Scryer
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Great as always but…

    Next episode is my most anticipated Twitter recap ever.

  53. heyjulieann
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Selmy: What did you say?

    What did you SAAAYY????

    Are you a man? No I don’t think so Jenny. She is amazingly hot naked and clothed.

    I think Jenny has some sensitive straight lady problems.

  54. Jen@House Stark
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    You make my day, FaB! Gendry, Daario and Jorah, oh my! :faints:

  55. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:12 pm | Permalink

    freoduwebbe,

    The ONE THING in life he found worth fighting for.

    I agree! I love the fact that Sam is such a coward when it comes to standing up for himself but for Gilly he’d do just about anything. That’s what makes Gilly love him later in the books. It’s important character development too because I don’t think he would have had enough confidence to scheme for Jon to become commander of the Night’s Watch later

  56. Shan
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Aw, great, I was hoping for some more fat jokes from Twitter. Hahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE SAM IS FAT. GET IT? GET IT? GET IT? GET IT?

    Every bit as fresh and hilarious as they were in Season One.

    (Sorry, I love the recap, but those are really starting to get to me).

  57. H. Stark
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    GoT, Nikolaj, Emilia and Diana Rigg nominated! :D

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=104642

  58. Zack
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    I like how there’s a soapbox re: Gendry changes but not for Sansa. (except by FaB, thank you! Everyone else is like WHHHYYYYYYY) I was on board for both. I dunno I don’t mind making awful characters more likable. They gave her “And if I never want to?” which is pretty harsh by itself, though understandable.

    And Gendry, come on. Gendry > Edric

    Anyhow. Team Onion Knight for always

  59. Al Swearengen
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    GOT has been nominated for the Critics’ Choice Television Awards :-)

    http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/big-bang-theory-american-horror-story-lead-critics-choice-television-awards-nominations-9313

    Nikolaj and Emilia for best supporting characters. And Dianna !!!

  60. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Hawk,

    they have all had the gray removed, or obfuscated, to a large degree…

    I totally disagree. There’s plenty of ambivalence in the TV characters. Jon struggling with breaking his vow of celibacy but loving Ygritte. Tyrion’s feelings about wedding and bedding Sansa. Jaime’s role of Kingslayer who saves half a million people. I’ll grant you that the book does do the “gray” better but it’s the nature of that medium because we get their internal POV’s. Still, D&D are doing a great job considering how many story arcs they have to cover. And the actors deserve a lot of credit too for portraying those gray areas not only in the way they deliver the lines but their physical portrayals as well.

  61. QueenofThorns
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    NIKOLAJ! NIKOLAJ!

    No offense to PD but no one embodies his character like NCW.

  62. Shan
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    I’m also with the people saying having Sansa kneel was a good idea.

    Pop culture is just a damn rough place for a young woman to exist in. (See also: the detailed and intense analysis of Emilia Clark’s minuscule bodily flaws on this thread).

    Whatever the book says, the fact remains that if a pretty female character like Sansa had embarrassed a well-liked but less attractive (in the world of the show, at least) male character like Tyrion, she would have been torn apart by wolves. Way too many of the guys watching identify with Tyrion, and few things are more angry and vicious than a certain kind of lonely guy who thinks that pretty girls are refusing them. Look how much hate she’s already getting for doing nothing more than taking Tyrion up on his offer not to have sex when he gave it. (“Sometimes I just want to slap Sansa to get her to notice how wonderful Tyrion is” is a comment that was going around Tumblr last week — no worrying undertones there, no sir).

    The show has a bigger audience than the books, that audience is less informed (not because they don’t pay attention, but just because there isn’t as much room for information in 10 episodes of TV than in a 500-page book), that audience responds more emotionally and viscerally to things that they’re seeing (since they’re seeing them, not reading about them), and that audience is less likely to spend a lot of time on the internet debating gender politics. It wouldn’t have worked. It would have been character suicide, and she’d never have recovered from it.

  63. Al Swearengen
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ,

    Tyrion in the show is not gray at all D & D are on the verge of turning him into a saint. In the book Tyrion isn’t so reluctant to marry Sansa, they even changed his great line about gods making whores for when Sansa says what If I don’t ever want to sleep with you.

    I worry about Tyrion’s future in the show particularly his ADWD arc.

  64. Al Swearengen
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    :-) Nikolaj deserves to win he’s been oustanding since day 1.

  65. Zack
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Shan: Whatever the book says, the fact remains that if a pretty female character like Sansa had embarrassed a well-liked but less attractive (in the world of the show, at least) male character like Tyrion, she would have been torn apart by wolves.

    This is true enough, but you can’t honestly think it’s due to sexism? Imagine the inverse, one of the hot men on the show being cruel to a popular female. You think nobody would say “Not cool”?

  66. Hawk
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Shan,

    GRRM broke the fantasy pop culture mold when he wrote ASOIAF, especially with his characters…D&D have taken those characters and forced them back into the pop culture mold for the TV show…

    you’re right…can’t have your TV audience having conflicting emotions…gotta hold them by the hand and tell them how they should feel, who to like, who to dislike, and you have to keep reminding them of that over and over…

  67. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    While I agree that they’ve whitewashed Tyrion too much in the show, it makes sense because of the alterations they made to Shae. For example, I think he didn’t say the line about the whores because he is still hoping to patch things up with Shae. If he went out to a brothel instead of back to Shae, she’d be doubly pissed off. But his conflict over whether to bed Sansa is still there, just really toned down. Regardless, I believe they will dirty him up soon because they have to! My guess is that Shae will be the one to testify that Tyrion is the one who killed Joffrey so when he finds her with his father, it will push him over the edge. Then we will see some seriously dark Tyrion and us “shaders” should be happy again.

  68. hare
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    I think Sansa’s ‘and what if I never want to sleep with you’ line successfully got across her rebellion.

    Refusing to kneel would have read on TV as a cheap shot/low blow aimed at Tyrion’s body type much the same as Joffery removing the stool. Needlessly cruel and hitting the wrong target.

    Yay for the critics choice noms!

  69. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Hawk,
    Shan,
    Hawk, you’re exaggerating what Shan said and misrepresenting what he/she meant. I think most of what Shan said is dead on, except for two things I disagree with. First, I disagree that fans would tear her apart because there are many male viewers who identify with Tyrion. I think they would tear her apart because they aren’t book readers and haven’t read her internal monologue. And because on the show she had time to absorb that the wedding was going to happen and Tyrion expressed to her (albeit in a whitewashed kind of way, see my reply to Arthur above) that his goal was to protect her. It makes sense for her to kneel when he asked her to so the audience would expect that kindness from her. The second thing I disagree with is that I believe if she had refused to kneel, Sansa’s character would have recovered the audience’s good opinion eventually.

  70. Isabelle
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Ah, the Twitter-verse. I’m starting to look forward to your little mascots as much as the tweet rundown!

    Faves–

    @charlymarion: Shireen you shit, give an illiterate Davos a book full of Targaryen names? Harsh

    @CaseyCakeyCat: casual riding story about your sister’s near-rape #asyoudo #cheery

    As you do indeed.

    @eriktopham: First Yahoo, and now Sansa kneels. This truly is tumblr’s darkest day.

    @caseykassidy: Melisandre is kind of a hussy. Although,I bet if Jehovah’s Witnesses tried this tactic a lot more people would let them in [didn't one of the recap writers say that, too?]

    @laurenarankin: tyrion lannister is kicking rape culture’s ass.

    @Lem889: I feel like nothing has really happened the past two weeks on game of thrones I’m ready for heads to roll etc

    Well. They won’t roll, per se.

    And from FaB–

    There is an obscure prophesy that says @AngryGoTFan will reign until a younger more beautiful queen rises to take his place. I wonder…

    http://jamiedubs.com/fuckflickr/data/i%20see%20what%20you%20did%20there/see-owl2.jpg

    ETA: Agree that D&D were right to have Sansa kneel. She was a 14-year-old kid who was zoning out for half the wedding (Tyrion had to prod her to help him because she wasn’t even really aware of him/that Joffrey had removed the stool). The idea of outright, conscious defiance wasn’t even on the outskirts of her radar screen.

  71. Yellow Dog
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Agreed. In particular, turning his relationship with Shae into a love match implies changes next season that will turn Tyrion’s arc upside down.

    They are turning Tyrion into the very drunken-jester dwarf that book Tyrion struggles so hard to avoid becoming.

    I do enjoy the show changes for themselves, and I’m the one who keeps saying trust D&D, but show Tyrion’s transformation into a two-dimensional hero/joke is terrifying.

  72. barak
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Sansa refusing to kneel would’ve come off VERY bad. The circumstances here are different than in the book. In the book it made sense for her not to kneel, but here she’s known that she would marry Tyrion long enough for it to sink in and for her to come to terms with it at least somewhat. Tyrion also went out of his way to assure her that he wasn’t any happier about the situation than she was. In the show, refusing to kneel would’ve been childish petulance, and it would’ve been a “fuck you” to Tyrion as well.

  73. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    If Daario had swaggered onto the screen like Jack Sparrow then there’d be a real mutiny in the fanbase; likely the Unsullied would take it harder than the book readers. PotC is a comedic-children’s fantasy adventure; Depp’s lucky to have pulled it off (or talented… I figure he’s highly talented). Talk about tonal dissonance. I’m glad they toned him down, ’cause holy sheesh is he ridiculous.

  74. blublu
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Emilia’s body and how could anyone have a problem with it: When she rose from the bath I automatically drew a her-vs.-my body comparison chart in my head: height – same, breasts – same size, legs – hers better (of course), butt – mine better (woohoo, this girl has nothing on me ;)) …
    It’s as if I (and, probably, many others) had this Hollywood-induced conviction: there’s only one type of perfect and I’m not it. So, if I can compare with Emilia, she can’t be that beautiful. This reasoning is, obviously, really dumb because in real life I see and appreciate beauty in women of many shapes and sizes and (sometimes) count myself as one of them.
    Thank you HBO and thank you Emilia Clarke, for showing us a different kind of perfection, one I can relate to. (Except for her face which is without competition, just…gorgeous!)
    I don’t know if this made any sense (I can’t write short, coherent sentences, especially in English :))

  75. Turncloak
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    I would have preferred to see no Daario, but atleast show Daario is less sleazy than book Daario. I hate him so much :)

  76. Turncloak
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Actually I take that back. I didn’t have a huge problem with Daario in a storm of swords. So it wa cool seeing him. However he really annoys me going forward

  77. Turncloak
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Also Emilia Clarke is beautiful. I am looking forward to seeing a certain scene with her and her hand maiden. Hopefully Missandei ;)

  78. Joey
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    0KEN0: 0KEN0

    you said it bruda

  79. bluemeanies
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    Actually, yes, if this storyline were about a female character being refused by a male character with the same degree of stoicism that Sansa is demonstrating, the male character would not be pilloried. On the contrarary, the female would be considered a demanding, clingy, possesive bitch. The internet validates the ‘Nice Guy’ syndrome by seeing Sansa as obligated to love Tyrion. Hell no she isn’t.

  80. Zack
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    bluemeanies,

    Of course she’s not obligated to love him. She doesn’t love him in the show, does she? She just acts like a human toward him. No hate.

    And I don’t know why you’re making this about ‘refusing with stoicism’ instead of what it is, showing respect for the physical deformity of a human being when an entire crowd is laughing at him for something over which he has zero control and he’s shown her nothing but respect. She responds appropriately in the show, and thoughtlessly in the book. I’m not going to validate thoughtless behavior, but YMMV

  81. Delta1212
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    I’m actually a fan of condensing a couple of Robert’s bastards into one character so he’s both familiar and plot-relevant.

    I’ll have to draw a line if they try sticking Gendry in a wig and shipping him off to the Vale, though.

  82. bluemeanies
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    No, it’s not about him. It’s about her not participating in this farce, making it clear that she does not accept her jailers forcing her marriage. The marriage is all about the humiliation of her and the emasculation of her house, but her one act of refusal is unforgivable. She must be willing participant in the Lannister’s determining the course of her life to her detriment and gladly do whatever they ask of her. It was not thoughtless, it was a deliberate refusal to cooperate.

  83. Hawk
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    bluemeanies,

    Agreed…Sansa also sees Tyrion as a Lannister, so any humanity she might see in him is going to be lost in that fact…she’s learned her lesson about trusting the Lannisters, and is not going to trust Tyrion because of that…it’s a calculated, intelligent decision on her part that shows she’s learned a few things…

    as a book reader, you should understand at this point that things are going to be different, and will continue to be so…that characters have been changed for TV, and will continue to be changed for TV…it doesn’t really matter that she kneels in the TV show…it’s consistent with her TV character, and it’s not necessarily better or worse than her not kneeling in the books…it doesn’t and shouldn’t detract from an overall excellent episode of the TV show…the storytelling was top-notch, and I hope they stick with that format for more episodes…

  84. KG
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    These tweets in particular, really cracked me up:

    @dieslaughing: It’s-a me! Daario

    Agreed. That one made me chuckle warmly!

  85. Zack
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    bluemeanies,

    “Gee, thanks for saving me from being stripped and beaten by the King, who could have had you killed. I think I’ll repay you by assisting him in his humiliation of you.”

  86. Jenny
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Hihi,
    I didnt’t say it wasn’t subjective, I merely said that nobody would start raving about her in she stood on the beach in a bikini. We women manipulate men all the time to make them think we’re sexy and it’s phenomenal to me how it can be achieved even if your body is just average. I find her very cute but if you put her naked next to someone like, say, Megan Fox, Adriana Lima or Irina Shaik it’s just a different ball game. It is my serious conviction than any actress, as dany, would have caused the same reaction. I like her as I said.

  87. Maester Victor
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    @FaB: I completely understand your rational view of Daario. He’s a douchey loser. However the majority of women go for douchey losers, therefore the majority of GoT twitter fans will also like Daario. Ladies who do not like douches (such as myself) think Show!Daario is still a douche and that Dany is making a terrible decision.

  88. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Jenny,

    The fact that you used supermodels and Megan Fox (???) as a comparison to Emilia kind of invalidates your argument.

  89. heyjulieann
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Jenny,

    The fact that you used supermodels and Megan Fox (???) as a comparison to Emilia kind of invalidates your argument.

    I’d rather look at Emilia naked than any of them, tbqh. And I think a naked Oona Chaplin would blow any of them away. Girl is fine.

  90. Hilda
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    Loved the Gendry/mel tweets! Knew those were gonna be big! Fuck Joe Dempsie has an amazing body!!

  91. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    heyjulieann,

    I concur.

  92. Fire And Blood
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    Something I’ve been thinking of with regard to Gendry….

    Edric Storm eventually gets smuggled out of Dragonstone by Davos and shipped off to one of the Free Cities (Lys I believe). If they continue to want to use Joe Dempsie, they could make that city Braavos. And wouldn’t THAT be interesting.

  93. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:39 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    No, not while Arya is training to be ‘nobody’. I’d like to see him join back up with a Stoneheart led Brotherhood.

  94. Mimsy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Jenny: We women manipulate men all the time to make them think we’re sexy and it’s phenomenal to me how it can be achieved even if your body is just average.

    Isn’t this a good thing.. to be thought of as attractive when you’re average? I wouldn’t classify that kind of thinking as alien. If by “manipulate” you mean make up, under wire and spanx.. enhancer type of manipulation? Well.. unless you’re out fishing for a man.. then I suppose it can be classified as manipulation.. but most of the time looking nice is for personal/professional reasons.

    I don’t think men are “manipulated” constantly to think one way or the other. They know what they like and don’t like… and although super models are great and all.. not everyone is obsessed with them.

    Take for example pretty Daario.. yes, he’s attractive, but he isn’t manly looking enough for me to be totally gaga over him. I preferred Mero’s physicality to Daario.

  95. Mimsy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    I know… I KNOW!! That was one of my first thoughts and the more I think about it.. I say why not! Gendry can hook up with Arya (I don’t think they’ll drag out her training) and they can be traveling buddies once again.

  96. Uno0
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the great recap, as usual, and special thanks for the Rickman/Nottingham reference!

  97. Sky Aero
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    II dont really see how that would work. Gendry has got a decent storyline although maybe that wouldnt work anymore because the BwB sold him….

    Am NOT a book purist but sending him of to Braavos would be a MAJOR book change for ‘no one’s’ storyline…

    Maybe the wall would be a better ideale or continue with the BwB with a different name out of sight from Beric and Thoros?

  98. Sky Aero
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    I dont really see how that would work. Gendry has got a decent storyline although maybe that wouldnt work anymore because the BwB sold him….

    Am NOT a book purist but sending him of to Braavos would be a MAJOR book change for ‘no one’s’ storyline…

    Maybe the wall would be a better idea or continue with the BwB with a different name out of sight from Beric and Thoros.

    I think him travelling with the ‘Queens Men’ would be the best option. Als gives a great insight into future ‘cool’ fightscenes?!

    ETA: ugh, obviously that’d be impossible it would be leaches all over again….. Hmmm difficult!

  99. Mike Chair
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    @LateLorraine: Ways to get Dany to murder your face off: have slaves, ask to see her cunt, doubt her master plan. #gameofsnark

    Sums it up pretty nicely.

    @pattycleo: Stannis Baratheon is so HOT!!! Remember when he was Thomas Jefferson?

    Holy shit! I can’t believe I didn’t know that. I’ve watched John Adams three or four times too. Shame on me.

    ‎‏@BigDamnHerosSir: “Hi, I’m Loras and I’m gonna try and make conversation” “Hi, I’m Cersei. Go fuck yourself.”

    I feel Loras’ pain.

  100. The Instrumentalist
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    OT: On the subject of comedy, for Youtube’s comedy week one channel did a GOT parody.

    It seems like people didn’t like it while browsing through comments, but I thought it was pretty good.

  101. Fire And Blood
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:02 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap, Mimsy, Sky Aero,

    I am admittedly trying to rack my brain to try and think of how much of the BwB’s future endeavors we’ll actually see onscreen. I like the idea of Paul Kaye infiltrating Riverrun in his role as Thorosevenstrings, but really, aside from standing next to the BwB and Lady Stoneheart, what does Gendry do? He saves Brienne, but that’s just one scene. I’m thinking he could be whisked off to Braavos by Davos… come tantalizingly close to running into Arya (but JUST missing her… ships in the night) … and then come back to Westeros and rejoin the BwB in time to save Brienne. And no, I have no idea how that would be accomplished.

    I admit I’m basically just trying to think of things for him to DO. Which is tough. With how spread out so many of the scenes in AFFC and ADWD are, so many of these poor characters that are beloved on the show (Jaime included) will have so little to do.

    It’s like seasons 5 and 6 will either have a boatload of stuff cut, or the writers will have to make up storylines.

  102. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    You really think it takes being a “sex goddess” to make us look at a woman at the beach?

    And you sell Emilia short, her body is gorgeous. If I saw her on a towel my peripherals would be working overtime.

  103. Turncloak
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    I think Gendry’s arc will end when Daavos smuggles him away from Dragonstone. Similar to how Hot Pie’s story ended when he got left at the inn. The other possibility I see is Daavos smuggling Gendry to Dorne and takes on Gerris’ role as he travels with Quentyn Martell

  104. Selmy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood:
    Something I’ve been thinking of with regard to Gendry….

    Edric Storm eventually gets smuggled out of Dragonstone by Davos and shipped off to one of the Free Cities (Lys I believe). If they continue to want to use Joe Dempsie, they could make that city Braavos. And wouldn’t THAT be interesting.

    I like the idea of having Gendry in Braavos, but not actually meet with Arya. For me, Arya in Braavos is about forgetting who she is, at least that’s what she tries to do. The Kindlyman would know if Arya met one of her best friends. Let her be alone in Braavos, and meet with Sam only.

  105. Mimsy
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 11:08 pm | Permalink

    Fire And Blood,

    What IF.. Stannis takes Gendry to the Wall in case he needs another blood sacrifice.. since I don’t think we’re going to get Dalla’s baby. Maybe, killing is not the kind of sacrifice Mel needs after all. This will give Gendry lots to do and maybe another BwB will be available to Brienne? It’s not imperative that Gendry be the one to save Brienne.. it was just nice that she thought she was looking at Renly. I’m thinking Gendry is still a possibility in restoring Storms End once a new King/Queen is in place. I feel like Mya and Gendry will survive and they will build friendships with the remaining Starks.

  106. Astonished
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Jenny:
    But seriously, I am always amazed by how easily men are manipulated into thinking that a woman is a sex goddess. I like Emilia but honestly, she rather has a short, not very curvy body that any regular man would not look twice at if encountered at the beach. Like a puppy.

    I get what you are saying. If she were not famous and lined up with 20 other women her age on the street, on the beach, she would not stand out. That’s a fact. But you can’t say that to a bunch of GoT fans because to us she is famous, and she’s had many face close-ups, and soft porn close-ups, so now she is a cable tv goddess. So she can’t be average. Not to puppies nor to kitties nor to trolls. Plus, will ya look at that mouth? It’s huge!

    Anyway.. anyway… Way to go with trumping tweets in one fell swoop. ;)

  107. Steven Swanson
    Posted May 22, 2013 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    Fire And Blood,

    I think Gendry’s arc will end when Daavos smuggles him away from Dragonstone. Similar to how Hot Pie’s story ended when he got left at the inn. The other possibility I see is Daavos smuggling Gendry to Dorne and takes on Gerris’ role as he travels with Quentyn Martell

    But remember we should be seeing that inn again for Brienne’s arc. I think it would make sense that Gendry might go back to find his one sort-of-friend even if he does have hard feelings toward the Brotherhood, so he could be at the inn like in the book (and thus we may see Hot Pie again as well).

  108. Lisa Y. (aerynsunx)
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Hawk:
    bluemeanies,

    Agreed…Sansa also sees Tyrion as a Lannister, so any humanity she might see in him is going to be lost in that fact…she’s learned her lesson about trusting the Lannisters, and is not going to trust Tyrion because of that…it’s a calculated, intelligent decision on her part that shows she’s learned a few things…

    as a book reader, you should understand at this point that things are going to be different, and will continue to be so…that characters have been changed for TV, and will continue to be changed for TV…it doesn’t really matter that she kneels in the TV show…it’s consistent with her TV character, and it’s not necessarily better or worse than her not kneeling in the books…it doesn’t and shouldn’t detract from an overall excellent episode of the TV show…the storytelling was top-notch, and I hope they stick with that format for more episodes…

    I don’t know why some of these book readers continue to watch this show when all they (some, not all) do is get angry at each and every episode over the slightest change, and spout off about how “wrong” it is. As if they own the material and not GRRM. WTH? If he’s happy (and he is) then what’s your problem? We’re three seasons in, and the gnashing and grinding of teeth has gotten way beyond tedious. And there’s still 2 1/2 books to go! Do you like the show or not? If not, then stop watching and just go read the books again. At least AngryGoTFan is doing it for laughs. I can understand drawing comparisons between the two mediums and stating why you prefer one presentation of an event/a character/a scene over the other. But the nonstop, fist-shaking, frothing-at-the-mouth outrage over things like Sansa “kneeling” is ridiculous.

  109. Lauren
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    I feel you! Still waiting…I never seem to make it. :(

  110. Shan
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Zack:
    bluemeanies,

    “Gee, thanks for saving me from being stripped and beaten by the King, who could have had you killed. I think I’ll repay you by assisting him in his humiliation of you.”

    See, this is what I’m talking about, though. We get mad at Sansa for taking part in humiliating Tyrion, but we forgive Tyrion for taking part in humiliating Sansa. She hesitated for a couple of minutes before eventually kneeling (which she did in the books, eventually, just not for the cloak). He married her. Not a few minutes of hesitation — a lifetime commitment that he knew would make her miserable when he made it.

    And the reasons he made it were complicated, and many of them were not noble. Sure, he wanted to protect her — or, at least, that’s what he told himself to help himself sleep at night. He also wanted the North. He wanted something to make up for not getting Casterly Rock. And he was afraid of his father. I don’t think he actively wanted to hurt Sansa, but I sure as hell don’t think her welfare was his first priority. It wasn’t even his fifth priority. So, he’s putting her through a humiliating, miserable marriage — humiliating because he’s a dwarf, yes, but also because it’s forced and because he’s twice her age and because he’s a Lannister and she’s being handed off like a piece of property by someone who, unlike her father, does not love her. And he’s not doing it for her. He’s doing it for himself.

    And yet somehow we forgive him as a character, but people are still holding the cloak thing against Sansa two and a half books later. So yes, I do think there is a double standard at work here.

  111. Shan
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ,

    Thanks for that!

    You’re more of an optimist than me on the second point. On the first, I agree — but I think it could be both. I do think there’s a little more of the “outcast black sheep vs. snotty pretty popular girl” archetype going on in the reactions to Tyrion and Sansa’s relationship than a lot of us want to admit. On the other hand, that’s certainly not the *only* reason why people are reacting the way that they are — her internal monologue would drastically change things, too.

  112. Lisa Y. (aerynsunx)
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    Jenny:
    Hihi,
    I didnt’t say it wasn’t subjective, I merely said that nobody would start raving about her in she stood on the beach in a bikini. We women manipulate men all the time to make them think we’re sexy and it’s phenomenal to me how it can be achieved even if your body is just average. I find her very cute but if you put her naked next to someone like, say, Megan Fox, Adriana Lima or Irina Shaik it’s just a different ball game. It is my serious conviction than any actress, as dany, would have caused the same reaction. I like her as I said.

    Look, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you haven’t met too many men. It is not that hard to get attention.

    Also, you must never have seen a model in person. There is a LOT of manipulation done to photos for magazines, etc., to get a desired image. You should be wary of declaring some women as being ultimate beauties when all you’ve seen of them are images that aren’t really “real”.

  113. KG
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 1:24 am | Permalink

    Jenny,

    It sounds very much like you have drunk deeply of the Negative Body Image flavored Kool-Aid. Quit hating yourself; you’re an embarrassment to our gender.

  114. Turncloak
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    Check out the episode 9 promo. At 0:26 it looks like The Hound is teaching Arya about the gift of mercy

  115. Selmy
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 2:17 am | Permalink

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/game-thrones-actress-refuses-nude-castmate-article-1.1351729

    Here is an article that basically says: Oona Chaplin recently saif that an actress who appeared nude in season 1 and 2, doesn’t want to appear nude again. Wanting to be recognized not by her breasts but by her talent as an actress. Ros?(She won’t need worry about that anymore but she didn’t appear nude in season 3). Daenerys? I hope not.

  116. Cerb
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 2:26 am | Permalink

    Oh myyy … the tweets are fun, but the Charles Dance link … pure gold. Lannister gold!

  117. Turncloak
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 2:47 am | Permalink

    Selmy,

    That would suck if it was Emilia Clarke. I blame the interviewers who ask her nudity questions all the damn time

  118. Spryte
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 2:55 am | Permalink

    Jenny,
    Astonished,

    Superficial people like you both are the reason humanity is shit. Go do something selfless for once in your spoiled lives.

  119. Slynt
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 4:28 am | Permalink

    My favorite tweet this week was

    Melisandre is kind of a hussy. Although,I bet if Jehovah’s Witnesses tried this tactic a lot more people would let them in

    Had to laugh at that. Also, the fantasies

  120. Slynt
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 4:29 am | Permalink

    Selmy,

    Could it be Osha? I don’t remember if she was naked in both seasons I & II though

  121. Jenny
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 4:51 am | Permalink

    Hurray to the hypocrites who only see the soul of people.

    I was only pointing out the phenomenon that any woman who gets stylized to be a sex symbol is also welcomed as such.

  122. mags giantsbabe
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 4:51 am | Permalink

    I’m aware the show gets a lot of criticism for the female/male nudity quota, as well as how female sexuality is constructed in relation to male desire, but the moment Dany got out of that bath and stood in front of Daario, I got the sense that it showed her in a position of power, not subversion, or the female nude to be gazed upon.
    Simply her as she is, the Mother of Dragons. Her legs and shoulders were straight forward, in a power posture, if you will. Not at an angle on display, hip curved to one side. She wasn’t covering her pubic area as if shamed. Same with Ygritte in the cave. It is also in stark contrast with the body language of “boy’s” two whores in the Theon torture scenes. But that is also a different context, one within which the female body is being used to achieve a certain goal (Theon’s humiliation, mind-fuckery, etc) So kudos to Michelle Mclaren for the former scene. :)

  123. Lina
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 4:52 am | Permalink

    Daario who? Give me Ser Jorah any day.

  124. Kellie
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 8:05 am | Permalink

    Shan,

    Absolutely wonderful analysis :)

  125. Kellie
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Isabelle,

    I too loved the tweet about Tyrion kicking rape culture’s arse.

  126. Sky Aero
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Mimsy,

    I am kind of expecting Gendry being frees by Davos who hired sellswords to escort him to a certain location where he’ll be free to go. But the sellswords are corrupt so they take him as a captive to Kings Landing. Along the way Brienne and Podrick will free him and thus there storyline continues together. Aaaaand new shipping. P O D R Y!

    other theorie is Davos send him to Braavos but never actually meeting or seeing ‘no one’ and continues with ‘blacky and wildy’ to Old Town.

  127. Zack
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Shan,

    You’re right in a lot of respects. I forgive Tyrion because he’s trying to make the best of a forced marriage, for both himself and Sansa. Doubly so in the show when he’s not making cracks about whores to her, but taking her feelings in stride. I don’t understand why he should be considered significantly less of a pawn in the arrangement than Sansa is. As he tells Shae, his options are pretty limited, being a dwarf, and he runs the risk of hired goons on his tail if he tries anything. So he’s stuck in there, despite Shae’s wishful thinking to the contrary. Except Tyrion gets more of the criticism because he knows that the deal isn’t quite as bad for him as it is for her (basically because his pops is like “Hey I want the North”), and he finds her attractive, and so on for all those reasons you listed. And that doesn’t work for me. He’d still choose not to marry her if given the option.

    I can’t really discuss the book version because I haven’t gotten to that point in my re-read and I’m fuzzy on the details. All I can say is that both characters were greyer in that wedding than they are in the show. And having show Sansa refuse to kneel wouldn’t have been consistent with her character as the show has altered it. Remember, she stands there letting them laugh, until Tyrion has had enough and asks her directly to please kneel. It just wasn’t for ‘a couple of minutes’, of a room full of people laughing mockingly at Tyrion beforehand. Thank god. I think the writers, the actors got across the idea that she hates where she is and she doesn’t want it to proceed just fine, without the thoughtlessness.

  128. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Shan,
    You’re welcome! Actually was thinking about it some more….if the genders were reversed…if it had been a female dwarf from a powerful family and a young attractive male hostage….would people have gotten on his case for refusing to give it up to the woman? Would people have been praising the woman for not raping him? I don’t think so and that points to sexism as being at the root of it. And the idea that it’s a male outcast v. a pretty popular girl does have some merit because, again, if the genders were reversed, we just wouldn’t see the massive outcry against the young male hostage. I mean the outcast female just wouldn’t get as much sympathy (probably from anyone) as the outcast male does.

  129. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    mags giantsbabe,

    I agree. And don’t forget Brienne in the bath. Although they didn’t show her frontally, she had the same stance, facing Jaime, shoulders back, legs shoulder wide, no covering of nudity–challenging him and dominating him. It’s nice to see women who refuse to be shamed by their bodies.

    BUT that all being said, I was disappointed to see less of Gendry, Jaime, Kit, etc. :)

  130. Shan
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Zack,

    You know, thinking about it, I may be talking a lot more about Book!Tyrion than Show!Tyrion. I’d say that Show!Tyrion is a lot more of a pawn in this arrangement than Book!Tyrion, so he’s probably less to blame — which, as you pointed out, makes it all the more of a good move not to have Sansa refuse to kneel on the show (where both characters were somewhat different people).

    While Show!Tyrion might not have had options, though, I do think that Book!Tyrion did. He originally put his foot down in the books and refused, and Tywin basically said, “okay, we’ll marry her to one of your cousins, but you’re going to have to marry *someone,* and being a dwarf, she’s the best offer you are ever going to get.” That’s not exactly “do this or I will disown you and/or have you killed.” It’s more like “do this or I will marry you off to someone older, poorer, and uglier.” Obviously, Tyrion doesn’t have to like marrying someone ugly or old any more than anyone else does, but he’s basically avoiding that fate by exercising an enormous amount of power over someone whose life is in his family’s hands. And I am not okay with that.

    I just looked at that scene again in the book, and the thoughts running through Tyrion’s head are very mixed. There’s not really a lot of horror or worry. He’s uncomfortable with the idea, but he’s also happy about a chance to get away from Joffrey and Cersei and liking the sound of “Lord Tyrion, Protector of Winterfell” and thinking about how pretty Sansa is. He shows a lot more disgust at the idea of marrying Lollys Tanda (brought up in the same conversation) than at the idea of marrying Sansa Stark. And most of the worries he mentions aren’t about Sansa — they’re about whether Robb will manage to have an heir to inherit Winterfell before Tyrion gets his hands on it.

    Honestly, I like Book!Tyrion a lot, but this is not his most shining moment. As you said, quite rightly, he’s a lot grayer. If we’re talking about Show!Tyrion, on the other hand, I’m pretty much inclined to agree with you.

  131. Astonished
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Spryte: Jenny,
    Astonished,

    Superficial people like you both are the reason humanity is shit. Go do something selfless for once in your spoiled lives.

    Sprite, if it makes any difference, I forgive your harsh words. If I have made you feel bad, I’m so sorry. I hope one day you might change your mind about humanity.

    Humanity isn’t good or bad, you see? It just is. Sort of like a bare nipple on HBO.

  132. Cat of the Canals
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    absolutely died at these ..

    @YgrittetheWild: Save Gendry, Davos! Save his abs!

    @SirJohnCard: Gordie LaChance feels for Gendry right now. #StandByMe

    ?@oceanafern: MY BROTHER WALKED IN WHILE HE’S SAVING SEX WITH HER AND HE RAN AWAY CRYING

    @HEELSherrod: Cersei is on a roll Tyrells are getting shut down left and right…if she backhands Olenna we call that a Westerosi hat trick

  133. Fanfriggintastic2013
    Posted May 23, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    Spryte:
    Superficial people like you both are the reason humanity is shit. Go do something selfless for once in your spoiled lives.

    Holy self righteous nerdrage, batman! ^^

  134. Zack
    Posted May 24, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Shan,

    This is fair. If you’re infusing the TV show with more vivid memories from the book than of course you’d feel strongly about character motives and such. I’m expecting to have some time to devote to the books and should have them finished probably by the final episode of the season when it will do me no good.

    But yeah I guess what I’ve been trying to say most of all is that Sansa’s behavior might have worked perfectly fine in the book but I’m not sure after what the TV show has chosen to accentuate about her character and her relationship with Tyrion, that it would have been successful. I think they chose wisely.
    And also it’s possible to forgive Sansa’s behavior in that moment when there’s internal monologue and those sorts of things. It’s not just about simplifying character morality in my view, though that does certainly play a role. Lot of factors to consider.

    I can’t help but wonder if this might be what Sophie was referring to in that interview where she said Tyrion and Sansa have a nice relationship this season, and that book readers would be caught off guard.

  135. sannael
    Posted May 27, 2013 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    Littlefinger’s LADDA

    — still has me chuckling, that =D

  136. Jeff A
    Posted May 27, 2013 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    Because it’ll hurt more!


  • Recent Comments

  • Archives

    • 2014 (950)
    • 2013 (679)
    • 2012 (550)
    • 2011 (512)
    • 2010 (309)
    • 2009 (174)
    • 2008 (47)
  •