An Unsullied’s Predictions
By Winter Is Coming on in Speculation.

Robb Stark battle plans

By popular demand, Oz of Thrones has offered up his predictions on what will happen by the end of this season of Game of Thrones. Book readers, I know this post is going to be very, very tempting, but please DO NOT post comments here. Just read and enjoy the Unsullieds’ predictions. Any comments mentioning the books, no matter how vague or veiled they may be, will be deleted.

Oz of Thrones:  Welcome one and all to the off-week, Unsullied, non-book reader, uneducated speculation for the rest of Season 3 and further into the future of GoT (aren’t you glad that wasn’t the name of the post itself?).

Be warned now that this post will be heavily, heavily moderated by WiC, HmR, and OitF if the need arises.  They also have my permission to pull this post completely if the Sullied comments reach a certain height of spoilery and moderating is more trouble than it’s worth.  Myself and the Unsullied don’t want to know what happens next.  Otherwise, most of us would have begun reading the books by now.  We make the choice to not read and therefore be surprised, shocked, and awed by the show and we want to keep it that way.

The predictions are here for your enjoyment, but not for your spoilers.  Comment away…. But please do not mention the books, the book content, the book comparisons, or anything else in the books.  I don’t even want to know how many pages there are in the books.

And one more thing…. while I am the self-proclaimed leader of the Un’s, my thoughts may or may not represent the thoughts of my fearless army.  I can guarantee that there are clues, comments, and suggestions that I have missed and my predictions, while being somewhat educated, may not be agreed with by other Unsullieds.  In other words, don’t read a prediction that is unfounded and has no basis and call my army ignorant.  It is my fault, as I am merely the chosen one fortunate enough to post on what I consider the best GoT website out there.  But there are certainly smarter Un’s than myself…. Probably very many in fact.

So let’s do it!  I apologize up front for the length…. Too many story lines!  But maybe it is a good thing since we have some time to kill before the next episode.  Hope you enjoy!

Dany and The Jedi’s: 

Two Sentence Recap:  Khaleesi has managed to get herself out of one mess at Astapor (with an army of 8,000 in tow mind you) only to get herself in another mess which I initially thought was a mistake.  But Daario thought she was hot, especially naked and getting out of a bath tub, and has apparently gained an extra 2,000 soldiers referred to as the “Second Sons.”

Unlikely Prediction:  Dany and Daario (the new D&D) hit it off behind closed doors to keep Jorah from knowing what is going on.  Everything is cool until Daario calls Dany a MODILF (instead of MILF) in front of Jorah who loses it and whacks the pretty head of Daario off.  Jorah mounts the head next to a picture of Drogo under a banner that reads, ”Men that have died so I may one day have the chance of being with Khaleesi.”

More Likely Prediction (which can also be referred to as the “Daario Scenario”):  While I have no reason to believe that Dany won’t make it to Westeros one day, she still has a long way to go.  My fear is that she is going to pick too many battles and hurt her chances of getting the Iron Throne.  On the upside, the more time it takes, the bigger the dragons become, and dragons are a major advantage.  I hope I am wrong, but if there is still a battle to take place at Yunkai, I fear it will feature some casualties which might include one of the following: Jorah, Selmy, or Daario.  My initial reaction is that Jorah will not trust Daario, and that Daario may set up Jorah to be slain.  If this happens, Daario will have to sleep with one eye open for the rest of his nights, as the Knights of House Oz will have a huge bounty on his head. Daario may be “hot”, but Jorah is the man.  I sincerely hope I am wrong about this one.

Arya and Her New Puppy:

Two Sentence Recap:  Our little warrior has had her share of losses this season with Hot Pie turning professional animal bread maker, and Gendry being hauled off to Dragonstone.  After running away from the BwB, she is now held by the Hound who promises to take her to the Twins to be reunited with Rob and Cat for the wedding of Edmure.

Unlikely Prediction:  Arya gets to know the Hound better and decides that he is not such a bad guy.  When she comes of age, she promises to marry the Hound which fits perfectly into what has become the season of unlikely weddings.  Arya/Hound hitched; Sansa/Tyrion hitched; Talisa/Rob hitched and expecting; Edmure/ Frey daughter hitched.  Upon being informed of all of this, Cat starts imagining what family get-togethers will be like and goes into cardiac arrest.

More Likely Prediction:  Arya and the Hound make it to the wedding.  But the exchange of Arya for payment does not go as planned and some type of dramatic showdown ensues.  There may be a big character death involved here too.  As a show viewer only, the agreement between Rob and the Frey’s for soldiers in return for Edmure’s marriage has just gone down too easily in my mind.  Edmure ends up being slain leaving another hole in the agreement between Rob and Walder, and even worse for Rob’s quest to kill Joffrey.  Which leads us directly to……

Rob:

Two Sentence Recap:  The King in the North has had his share of betrayal this season (Karstark and now Bolton) while almost accomplishing nothing, other than getting Talisa knocked up.  As mentioned before, he finds himself needing the help of Walder Frey when the Karstark loyalists retreat home after Rob takes their Lord’s head.

Unlikely Prediction:  After the Frey deal falls through, Rob and Talisa decide to say “screw them all” and head out to Volantis.  But Talisa feels guilty for lying and admits to being a spy for the Wildlings and Mance Rayder.  She also tells him that Jon Snow has defected and is in love with a Wildling girl.  They travel to the Wall to find Jon and end up finding Bran and Rickon in the process.  They join forces with the Wildlings and rebuild Winterfell which remains their stronghold against the White Walkers.

More Likely Prediction:  If the Edmure prediction comes to fruition, then Rob could have major issues.  But he seems so stubborn at times that I don’t think anyone could keep him from at least attempting to avenge his fathers’ death, even if it means his own.  Arya rejoins Rob and Cat, and tells them about her travels and the BwB.  Having very few options remaining, Rob finds and meets with Beric and Thoros and they realize they have more in common than in differences, and decide to join forces in the taking of Casterly Rock. The only conflict I would find in such an arrangement would be that the BwB follow the Lord of Light, which is connected to Melisandre, which is connected to Stannis, who just threw a leech in a fire with Rob’s name attached.  More on that in a bit……

Jon Snow and the Wildlings:

Two Sentence Recap:  After Jon proves himself by slaying Halfhand, and by sharing secrets with them about the wall, he seems to have gained the trust of most of the Wildlings.  Jon and Ygritte’s relationship has moved forward fast, and he has confided in her that he does not think that the Wildlings can win their fight.

Unlikely Prediction:  Orell is busy warging with his eagle and watches overhead as Ygritte is laying down and Jon is doing that thing with his tuuuuungue!  Orell makes his eagle dive-bomb and pecks Jon in the ass.  What Orell couldn’t see was that Tormund was underneath a tree watching it all and giving Jon pointers on how to do things better.  Tormund jumps up and spears the eagle, which in turn makes Orell go into convulsions and dies.  The three have a big laugh about it, make fun of the peck mark on Jon’s butt, and then continue on like nothing happened.

More Likely Prediction:  Just due to time constraints with two more episodes remaining, it doesn’t look like we are going to have time for an epic battle at the wall.  With that being said, something is going to happen before the season ends involving Jon and who his allegiance actually lies with.  I think there will be a moment in the next couple of episodes that makes Jon choose between his love for Ygritte and his vow to the Night’s Watch.  It may even involve his family, especially if he finds Bran and Rickon (which can’t be far away) or protecting a friend who is a fellow Crow.  Jon must make a choice, and the repercussions of his choices will ride into Season 4.

Cersei and Loras:

One Sentence Recap:  As a result of Paw Paw Tywin’s concern with the lasting impression of the family name, he arranges the weddings of Tyrion and Sansa for hopeful control of the north (wedding accomplished) and Cersei and Loras for control of the Reach (wedding not yet accomplished).

Unlikely Prediction:  Cersei and Loras agree to move ahead with the wedding under the agreement that Lancel will be the ever-present third wheel of the marriage….. Cersei gets the front, Loras gets the back (or as they like to call it, The Lancel Sandwich).  Lancel of course objects, but to no avail.  All is good until Loras swallows Lancel’s sword which highly perturbs Cersei.  She in turn eats Loras.  End of marriage.

More Likely Prediction:  Cersei can’t deal with the thought of being with anyone else besides Jaime and makes an inside deal with Loras that he will join the King’s Guard and will still be granted rights to Highgarden when Tywin passes away.  Of course, she doesn’t keep this promise when all is said and done, which leads to another dramatic turn in Seasons to come.  Either way, I just don’t see this wedding happening.

Jaime and Brienne: 

Two Sentence Recap:  After traveling alone, the odd couple find themselves prisoners of Locke, where Jaime loses a hand and Brienne is forced to fight a bear.  After surviving both predicaments, our favorite duo are once again on their way to King’s Landing only this time on horseback and accompanied by Bolton’s men.

Unlikely Prediction:  Before arriving at King’s Landing, J&B have a moment of clarity, decide they are made for each other, kill Bolton’s men, and ride off into the sunset together never to be heard from again.

More Likely Prediction:  J&B arrive in King’s Landing for a reunion between the Lannisters and their long-lost Jaime.  But upon their return, they find some sort of tragic occurrence involving the King and Tywin or the King and Tyrion…. I can’t decide which.  One way or the other, the reunion will be bittersweet in some form or fashion.  The family reunion from hell is upon us.

Theon and Boy:

One Sentence Recap (because who needs two?):  Since the beginning of the season, Theon has been tortured.

Unlikely Prediction:  Theon escapes, reattaches his manhood, and finishes the “Two Nurses and a Patient” porn scene.

More Likely Prediction:  Theon gets tortured.  Again.

Side Note:  I know that many non-book readers are beyond being over the Theon story line this season, Ozzette included.  I for one think there is a lot more to this story, and it has simply been extended to keep Theon in the forefront of viewers minds either for a big event in the last couple of episodes or for the next season.  I would at least hope it is safe to assume that this seemingly prolonged torture sequence does have some significance, and as good as the show has been, I believe we all owe D&D the benefit of the doubt.

And finally…..

Stannis, Gendry, and the Red Woman:

Two Sentence Recap:  Melisandre vacated Dragonstone in search of Gendry and was successful in bringing him back and giving him a brief “Welcome to Dragonstone” ride only to ruin the moment by putting a leech in his briefs.  Stannis releases Davos from the dungeon so that he may be the voice of reason and witness the burning of the leeches containing Gendry’s blood.

Unlikely Prediction:  Stannis, Gendry, and Davos all realize that now they have all seen the Red Woman naked.  Stannis calls a boys-only meeting stating that no other man is to see her naked again except for him.   Davos says fine.  Gendry says can we at least finish what she started?  Stannis says “hell to the no you Bastard,” and yet another character on GoT loses his manhood.

More Likely Prediction:  This really involves the leeches more than anything else, and the importance of their grilling.  I see two possible purposes….

A.      The leeches were burned to give vision in the flames to Melisandre and Stannis in order to see the future of the named usurpers. Or……

B.      As a more serious result, the named usurpers are slowly cursed from the point of the burned leeches going forward, and are afflicted with some type of illness that will eventually kill them (or render them useless).  If this is the case, it would change the whole landscape of the battle for the Kingdoms, and the majority of the predictions above would be rendered useless as well.

Weddings?: I think we see two more before the Season ends, Edmure and Frey Daughter almost certainly, and one more.  Unfortunately, I don’t think it will be Lysa and Littlefinger.  Is it weird that I can’t wait to see the breast-feeding boy again?

Bold Death Predictions (in no particular order):

I think that at least two of the following six have an above average chance of meeting their doom before the end of the season.  There is justification for a few, and a few I just have a bad feeling about.  (Ozzette picked 3, and I picked 3).

1. Tywin:  I have reason to believe that Tywin might not make it and I am not quite sure why.  But, I do feel like there is a clash of power coming between he and Joffrey that may not end well for Paw Paw.  Joffrey does not like being told what to do, and the threat of someone having more control could be enough to push him over the edge.

2. Loras:  If the prediction above on Cersei/Loras is incorrect, this could be the most logical answer for Cersei not having to marry Loras.

3. Edmure:  See the Arya prediction above.

4. Ygritte:  This would be directly related to choices of Jon Snow mentioned above.  I would hate to see her go.

5. Jorah:  Again, out of all of them, I hope I am most incorrect on this one.

6. Joffrey:  His death is likely inevitable.  But I really don’t think we send the end of his reign just yet.

Laugh Away My Sullied Friends!  Hope this gives the Sullied some off-week entertainment and the Un’s some food for thought.

And please, once again….. no spoilery!  No “Oz, you are completely right about this particular story, but completely wrong about that particular story” kind of statements.  And please, for the love of the Seven, don’t act like you are Unsullied if you are not!!  Thanks in advance.

Until Friday for a Looking Forward Ep. 29, enjoy your long weekend if you are lucky enough to have one, and please drink responsibly if that is your thing. 

And may there be peace in your realm.  -Oz


210 Comments

  1. First
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    Hodor.

  2. telobsidion
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    :)

  3. jasonw
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    oz,
    this is great.

  4. M
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    I would totally watch ‘Two Nurses and a Patient’. That being said, if HBO were to take all of your Unlikely Predictions and weave them into their own show it would probably blow the collective viewer’s minds.

  5. Lehnaru
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    When you say “she eats Loras” do you actually mean… eats? As in… actually eating him? :|

  6. GoTAddict
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    Oz you’re great!

  7. Kit
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    These are most entertaining–thank you! If any of my fellow Sullied spoil this, I will be most upset.

  8. Pau Soriano
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    If I was an Unsullied I’d stay away from the comments, they’re BOUND to be spoiled :/

  9. Reginald Schultz
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    This is amazing. Thank you. Is there a place for us Sullied to comment on the Unsullied’s thoughts? I would love to talk about the conceptions/misconceptions with other book readers.

  10. kayoflaihr
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    This is awesome!!! Thank you for doing this, it’s so much fun to read!!

  11. Mark
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    As a sullied, it was a lot of fun reading these predictions and getting perspective on what might be going on in the mind of the unsullied. That is all.

  12. Mark
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Not quite all actually: I think it would be fun to revisit these predictions in the aftermath during the GoT offseason. That’s really all this time. I swear.

  13. WompWomp
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    Thanks for your two cents, Oz! They were well-received by this here fan.

    Great to see some Jorah love. Have some more!

    GoT impressions, most notably Jorah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR9tn6Ms-2g

    Another awesome Jorah voice, animated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iFrajatE3M

    No spoilers therein, scout’s honor. Enjoy! :)

  14. Slayjoy
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Love the predictions. Can’t wait for sunday!!

  15. Mark
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Reginald Schultz:
    This is amazing. Thank you. Is there a place for us Sullied to comment on the Unsullied’s thoughts? I would love to talk about the conceptions/misconceptions with other book readers.

    That’s a cool idea actually. Is there anyway a sort of discussion thread can be started for spoiler discussions about these predictions? It might hold off some of the sullied spoiler-fever and keep this a spoiler free zone.

  16. Snow
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    I’m not trying to be rude but Rob is spelled Robb! Also, as a “Sullied”, I highly enjoyed reading your predictions.
    :))))

  17. Ren Snow
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Why do you keep using “Khaleesi” as a proper name?… it’s just a title like Queen or Princess or Lady

  18. KJ
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    No predictions on Bran? I know his story has been sort of put on the back burner, but surely you have some ideas about what/where things will lead?

  19. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    From the original post above:

    Book readers, I know this post is going to be very, very tempting, but please DO NOT post comments here. Just read and enjoy the Unsullieds’ predictions.

  20. João Neve
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    I’m with you in pretty much everything (especially regarding Ygritte; man, it’s going to piss me off to no end, I can see it already) except for Edmure’s death. I just think that 1, the actor is kinda big-ish and didn’t do much yet and 2, because of that, it wouldn’t have much of an impact on us (but maybe they’re saving The Big Death of the season for Ygritte, so who knows). Still, I think it’s more likely that Old Uncle (Big Fish? forgot his name) dies… in a single combat against a Frey? OR that Arya is made a captive by the Freys (remember that she was supposed to marry one of them too?) and Big Fish tries and fails to save her.

    Speaking of big-ish actors, where the hell is the King Beyond the Wall? I sure hope there’s still a big battle at the Wall coming in episode 10, because he didn’t do shit yet. I was so hyped for Ciaran Hinds in GoT… eh, disappointing.

    And yep, so done with Theon storyline. Season 2 made me a big fan of Alfie Allen, but his torture thing just seems so… forced, not emotional at all. I don’t know, it just feels out of place to me. But if his father really dies because of Stannis’ black magic, then I guess he would have an important role to play again, being (I think?) his father’s heir and all. Maybe he’ll pledge his sword to Robb again; not sure how that would go, but what are his options? Siding with the Lannisters? With the wildlings? Keep on rebelling? lol

    Oh, and Loras + Cersei wouldn’t be so bad for them, really. He wouldn’t have to do anything, she wouldn’t have to do anything…. double win.

  21. Winterlarks
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    Hahaha!

  22. jasonw
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Ren Snow,

    That is what show watchers call her that. where as book readers say Dany. That is how you konw who you are talking to.

  23. Eor!
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    This is my Unsullied friend’s predictions

    “Joffrey is going to have Tywin killed and all hell will break loose, because Tywin has been crushing Joffrey and things are too cozy for the Lannisters atm”

    And for the love of god if you’ve read the books don’t comment on these, or on the misconceptions. We have 900 other threads to talk about this, let them have this one

  24. ACatLover
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, Oz! That was a great read. Your posts are always among my favorites, but please please PLEASE start spelling “Rob” correctly — it’s “Robb”. I know it’s a small detail, but it happens week after week, so I thought I’d remind you.

  25. QueenofThorns
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Ren Snow,

    “Khaleesi” is what 99.9% of show watchers know her as. Why is it that book walkers always feel like they need to point out this kind of meaningless detail? Some kind of burning desire to feel smugly superior is all I can really guess…

  26. Alex
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    But what about Bran?! And Sam?
    :o

    Anyway always interesting to read watcher predictions. I was an Unsullied not so long ago.

  27. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    ACatLover:
    Thank you, Oz!That was a great read.Your posts are always among my favorites, but please please PLEASE start spelling “Rob” correctly — it’s “Robb”.I know it’s a small detail, but it happens week after week, so I thought I’d remind you.

    My apologies on the misspelling of RoBB….. a while back, someone informed me that it was one “B” instead of two. Apparently, they were mistaken. It will not happen again, o’ Lover of Kitties!

  28. Daniel
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    Dude… As a Sullied….. I just want to say…………………. I wish i was an unsullied :). The beauty of surprise.

    Anyways… Have fun, 2 more episodes. I know I will.

  29. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Nothing about Hodor? For shame.

  30. Eor!
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    QueenofThorns:
    Ren Snow,

    “Khaleesi” is what 99.9% of show watchers know her as.Why is it that book walkers always feel like they need to point out this kind of meaningless detail?Some kind of burning desire to feel smugly superior is all I can really guess…

    From the reader recaps, it shows that a large portion of them here care a lot about trivial details.

  31. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Please do not post ANY reactions to Oz’s prediction post if you have read the books. It will be deleted. There have already been posts like that.

    Even if it’s just one word, it can very well hint at how accurate (or not) something is.

    To reiterate, from the original post:

    Book readers-please DO NOT post comments here. Just read and enjoy the Unsullieds’ predictions.

  32. ACatLover
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones: My apologies on the misspelling of RoBB….. a while back, someone informed me that it was one “B” instead of two.Apparently, they were mistaken. It will not happen again, o’ Lover of Kitties!

    Hahaha you rock, o’ Wizard of the Unsullied!

  33. Olenna's Chamberpot
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Could you make a separate thread for the sullied to discuss these predictions, then? Pretty please :)

  34. JS
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    More whining about Theons scenes.. What a shock.

  35. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Please do not post ANY reactions to Oz’s prediction post if you have read the books. It will be deleted. There have already been posts like that.

    Even if it’s just one word, it can very well hint at how accurate (or not) something is.

    Probably more “Not” than anything else…LOL.

    Thank you for moderating…. I am sure it can be a thankless job at times.

  36. Shan
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    Now, Edmure’s death certainly would be massively inconvenient. Although, considering how many mothers dying in childbirth were mentioned, Robb might become available for the marriage market again in due time… :(

    Not that I’m a huge fan of Talisa, but I would be sad to see this, poor Robb, another loss for him.

    And I really love your idea how the Loras/Cersei marriage could be made to work :P Wouldn’t put it past them to do this.

  37. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    JS:
    More whining about Theons scenes.. What a shock.

    No whining here brother….. read the side note. I expect the whole line to go somewhere strong. But a lot of non-readers do not share my optimism.

  38. Card of Doom
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    Another Sullied just piling on…these Unsullied reviews are so awesome.
    They allow me to relive the days when there were still surprises coming.

    Keep it up.

    p.s. KJ – Oz did post predictions re: Bran & Rickon.

    Rob:

    Two Sentence Recap: The King in the North has had his share of betrayal this season (Karstark and now Bolton) while almost accomplishing nothing, other than getting Talisa knocked up. As mentioned before, he finds himself needing the help of Walder Frey when the Karstark loyalists retreat home after Rob takes their Lord’s head.

    Unlikely Prediction: After the Frey deal falls through, Rob and Talisa decide to say “screw them all” and head out to Volantis. But Talisa feels guilty for lying and admits to being a spy for the Wildlings and Mance Rayder. She also tells him that Jon Snow has defected and is in love with a Wildling girl. They travel to the Wall to find Jon and end up finding Bran and Rickon in the process. They join forces with the Wildlings and rebuild Winterfell which remains their stronghold against the White Walkers.

  39. dizzy
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Can you give us what you think is going to happen with Sam and Gilly? Jon’s unlikely prediction is awesome BTW.

  40. Jospeh
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    In the case of correcting Rob to Robb or John to Jon it could be smug superiority. But with Daenerys it’s not as if it isn’t stated on the show that that is her name, and khaleesi just a title

  41. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    That’s crazy though! it’s clear to me that everything has a reason, so I trust them. Remember, from the very first scene we saw Tywin, we saw how he cares about the family name. And we saw how hard Jaime tries to pretend he doesn’t care about the kingslayer nickname. And we saw him say to Robert that the Mad King had been saying “burn them all” before he died. And this conversation in season 2 has him explicitly state his conflict about breaking the vow, even though he tries to play it off
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpD47mmlei4

    These are things that go back as early as season 1! Clearly they have a plan. Every scene has a purpose. Have faith!

  42. Card of Doom
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Jospeh: re

    In the case of correcting Rob to Robb or John to Jon it could be smug superiority. But with Daenerys it’s not as if it isn’t stated on the show that that is her name, and khaleesi just a title

    It is 100% smug superiority.
    Everyone knows Rob is Robb, John is Jon and Khaleesi is Danaerys (or Dany for those that think they are tight with her like that)

    :)

  43. MGM
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for this OZ! I think I actually enjoyed the unlikely predictions more than the more reasonable ones! LoL!

  44. Card of Doom
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Jospeh:
    QueenofThorns,

    In the case of correcting Rob to Robb or John to Jon it could be smug superiority. But with Daenerys it’s not as if it isn’t stated on the show that that is her name, and khaleesi just a title

    It is 100% smug superiority.
    Everyone knows Rob is Robb, John is Jon and Khaleesi is Danaerys (or Dany for those that think they are tight with her like that)

    :)

  45. M
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    As a book reader, this was great to read!!!!

  46. Tar Kidho
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Oz, this post made my day! Your efforts this year as Top-Unsullied are really appreciated.

    (I had to break your rules to say this, Fury, but I did so as I thought them too strict. If you want we can settle this disagreement through trial by combat under the Gods’ Judgement…)

  47. Alex Dubrovsky
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Lehnaru:
    When you say “she eats Loras” do you actually mean… eats? As in… actually eating him? :|

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097108/?ref_=sr_1

  48. Maester Victor
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Awesome post! Thanks for the predictions. It makes this Sunday a little closer :)

  49. superdeluxe
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Love this. Thank you. I’m going to ask my Unsullied wife for predictions as well heading into the final episodes!

  50. Silverstormm
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Hi Oz,

    As the person who put this idea forward, I just wanted to say Great post – Massively fun to read!

    Also support the idea for a separate spoiler discussion thread on this post.

  51. Jospeh
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    Between FaB and Oz I’ve had a smile restored after both exams I’ve had during this no Thrones, all revision, seven hells of a fortnight

  52. Clara
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    There was no Game of Thrones or Doctor Who this weekend and I have a cold. Thanks Oz for making me feel a bit better :)

    I was until recently an Unsullied, but I couldn’t resist and can no longer claim that title.
    Oz are you ever tempted to spoil yourself, or read the books?

  53. superdeluxe
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Who came up with the whole Unsullied thing? Seems like a real ‘thing’ now because everyone is using it?

  54. Susie-Q
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    As a Sullied, I enjoyed these predictions immensely!!!

    I can’t wait until Sunday!!!

  55. nocuzzlikeyea
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    This was an entertaining and thoughtful post! That is pretty much all I can say though as a sullied.

  56. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Silverstormm:
    Hi Oz,

    As the person who put this idea forward, I just wanted to say Great post – Massively fun to read!

    Thank you….. and thank you for the great idea.

  57. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    superdeluxe,

    TWOP has been calling the unspoiled readers the Unsullied for years.

    Of course, it wasn’t until this season that the Unsullied actual knew what the term in the ASOIAF verse meant…

  58. Moët
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    ALWAYS love love LOVE your OzzGazzettes™. Keep it up. Great nuggets for the off week. Thank you!

  59. Omar Brown
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    “Eagle divebombs and pecks Jon’s ass” hahahahaha I am dying!

  60. ATG
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Wow your ‘Unlikely Predictions’ are quite possibly the most ridiculous things Ive ever read LOL.

  61. Reginald Schultz
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    It’s more about the breaking from pure Game Of Thrones, A Song of Ice and Fire fills the mind to the brim with details, and that’s why people enjoy reading it. A fully fleshed out world (in the mind) seems grander with the semi-insignificant details. Because we love these little pieces we want people to know they exist. Similar to how new parents post pics of their kids. To let the world know about a thing they love.

  62. Bryon B
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    As book reader these are great an quite entertaining. It was a bit of genius that WiC has you on board. Keep up the great work.

  63. Hollyoak
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    QueenofThorns:
    Ren Snow,

    “Khaleesi” is what 99.9% of show watchers know her as.Why is it that book walkers always feel like they need to point out this kind of meaningless detail?Some kind of burning desire to feel smugly superior is all I can really guess…

    Wholeheartedly agree. LOL…”Book Walkers.” Funny.

  64. Petey vonWho?
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    “(or as they like to call it, The Lancel Sandwich)”

    ROFL!

    Thanks for the fun read man :). Made my work day just a bit better.

  65. anne
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

    I love how protective Ours is the Fury, WiC and Hear Me Roar are of Oz.
    I like your theories, Oz. and for the Sullied come one, give the unsullied some space :D

  66. Bellatrix
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    Great read! Your unlikely predictions are great! As an unsullied myself I come up with all sorts of crazy predictions. Its more fun than already knowing whats going to happen!

    Keep up the great work! :)

  67. alan curtis
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    I’m pretty sure only a “consumer of those things with unknown number of pages” (such as I) would know or care how a name is spelled. So spell it any way you want to!

    And thanks for this (etal) post to remind me of the different flavor of joy from my unsullied days..

    Alan “lips zipped” Curtis

  68. matt v.
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I am an Unsullied :)
    My predictions:
    1) Khaleesi is gonna burn the new city, but this new guy (Daario) will be somehow a guy not to be trusted. He will do something to Jorah :(
    2) Jon Snow will kill the king beyond Wall and be the new king of the wildlings, and fight against the White Walkers. He’ll find Sam and Bran and the others, and they will be warging and have this spears of dragonglass and win (for now) against the WW.
    Ygritte will become a dead walker and he has to kill her :(
    3) I have a baaad feeling that the leeches will come true… :( happy about dead Joffrey :D …in the end of the season or the begin of the next Stannis will be king. And he will kill all Lanisters ( my beloved Cersei and Tywin :( ), and it begins the new era of the Red Witch and her god, and it will be terrible… Oh, and Litlefinger will help somehow Stannis…
    4) Tyrion will somehow survive and go with Bronn,Pod and Varys to the north… Shae dies somehow in the escape…
    5) Robs girlfriend is not to be trusted… She probably is with Melisandre and has something to do with his dead… Cat goes on the wall and be with Jon and ask for forgivness…
    6) Theon will become a better men after all this and helps Cat going to the wall…
    7) Arya will be captured by Robs girlfriend and the Hound will die helping her…
    8) The Tyrells… i dont know… they will probably be helping Stannis to stay on the throne… i really dont know…

  69. Alisha
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    I think your Stannis prediction A is what will happen. Didn’t she say she needed to demonstrate the power of King’s blood? Since Gendry is a bastard (so only 1/2 kings blood? Does Queen’s blood count too??) I’m guessing her power will let Stannis spy on the Usurpers. Otherwise, why bother using Stannis for anything…

    I also think Edmure is doomed and I’m tired of Theon wasting story space. I don’t care what happens to his story line and don’t have any emotional connection to him. If he makes it into next season, the writers had better do some work to make me interested in Theon.

    I don’t know about Tywin… It doesn’t seem like his story line is over yet. I would love to see Joffrey die but I’ve felt that way since Season 1. I think Jorah and Edmure are the deaths we’ll get though.

  70. alan curtis
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Clara:
    I was until recently an Unsullied, but I couldn’t resist and can no longer claim that title.

    Clara, I would be interested in how you find your watching going forward compared to before. As one who has always been sullied to the max, I can’t experience the show first, and like to hear from those who get to experience the show Unsullied AND Sullied, to see which way they liked best, and how the experience changes for them.

    alan

  71. Cele
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Very fun! Thanks for your great observations! Even tho a Sullied, I loved them all!!!

  72. Nipplesonabreastplat
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Quite entertaining, Oz…as always. Wish I was still unsullied, but couldn’t help myself after watching Season 1. I leave you with … interesting!

    And keep up the good work!

  73. Jay
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    The Devil is in the details …

  74. Clara
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    alan curtis,

    It really flavoured my reading of the books, especially the first one as I could only picture the actors. Not that that is necessarily bad, but still. With minor changes, which most so far are, I liked seeing how it had been adapted. Also the POV stuff is impossible to 100% get on TV, so I loved the extra insight in the books. Also as soon as I overtook the show it was all new which was great.

    Some of the characterisation is different sure. I enjoyed Dany more in the books I think and Jon too. I think I benefited from seeing their thought process. However, I liked that everyone was a bit older in the show. I know its a Medieval world, but I just preferred it, especially Robb (though he’s not POV I suppose anyway) and Dany. To be fair though, that may be due to my introduction to the characters on the show originally as older.

    But with the show I almost wish I hadn’t spoiled. The element of surprise was so great. I mean when Ned died in season 1 I was completely thrown.
    On the other hand the little inside jokes, and knowing more than the characters, or what they’ve left out makes me delightfully smug at times. D&D are great at throwing in inside jokes. Also I do find the names less confusing now than before.

    So on the whole there are pluses and minuses. If I was giving advise to Unsullied, don’t do it mid season (I did). Also if you love being so unsure all time and enjoy the element of surprise hold off reading them.

    Sorry for the very long post! Hope it answers the question.

  75. Summer Is Coming
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Well this was fun to read :)) In a way I really wish I was one of the UnSullied… Can’t wait to see your newbie recap after next sunday.

  76. SirSquinty
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Can you PLEASE get someone to write these who knows how to use grammar correctly???

    “But, I do feel like there is a clash of power coming between he and Joffrey that may not end well for Paw Paw.”

    No. This isn’t even a sentence. “I feel that Tywin and Joffrey may clash and it will not end well for Paw Paw.” That is a sentence.

    Or if you want to edge closer to the original sentence, then say “But I do feel like there is a clash of power coming between HIM and Joffrey…” You do not stick he/she/they after the word ‘between.’ Did anyone here go to school, or am I the only one who did?

  77. Chris
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    alan curtis,
    So a lot of people are going to ask how it’s possible, but I was unsullied, sullied, now unsullied again. I watched the first season without knowing anything about the books, making Season 1, Episode 9 about the greatest, most shocking thing I’d ever seen on TV, (and I watch a lot of TV). I got an electronic version of the books from the library that lasted 3 weeks and I got through the first 2 books that summer. Life happens, and as much time as I spend on this site, I didn’t have the time then to get and read book 3, and part of me didn’t want to finish off the books. I watched Season 2 as a Sullied, and found that I didn’t enjoy it quite as much. 1) You instinctively sit there and compare the book to what’s on screen (Where’s the chain???) and 2) There’s no jeopardy for the characters you’re watching, you know basically if they live or die. (Although somehow I thought Theon died at the end of Book 2, guess I was wrong.)

    I didn’t read Book 3 before this season, and find that I enjoy the show a lot more. I get frustrated and bored like all the other unsullied at some points (Now I think I just wished Theon died.) and there is real tension in scenes, and real surprises. If I had to rank characters who I thought would have died this season, Mormont would have been at the bottom, and the bear fight means more if you really don’t know if someone doesn’t come out of the pit.

    So now I’m planning to wait the 4-5 or 8 years it will take them to complete the series, then I’ll plow throw the books. Just wanted to share my experience. I do love the show and of course, since I’m here, love the site and all the great work that Oz, WiC, HmR, and OitF do on this site.

  78. Silverstormm
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    SirSquinty:
    Can you PLEASE get someone to write thesewho knows how to use grammar correctly???

    “But, I do feel like there is a clash of power coming between he and Joffrey that may not end well for Paw Paw.”

    No. This isn’t even a sentence. “I feel that Tywin and Joffrey may clash and it will not end well for Paw Paw.” That is a sentence.

    Or if you want to edge closer to the original sentence, then say “But I do feel like there is a clash of power coming between HIM and Joffrey…” You do not stick he/she/they after the word ‘between.’ Did anyone here go to school, or am I the only one who did?

    Haha that’s a really funny po…oh you are actually serious?!?
    Aw you poor thing you really must be in constant pain, what with having that large stick in an extremely uncomfortable area…I wholeheartedly recommend surgery- asap. All the best for a speedy recovery.

  79. The Golden Hand
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    After season 1 I read all the books. However now, especially after reading all of Oz’s posts, I wish I never had. Oz good ser, you are a constant reminder of a simpler time that I can no longer recapture, the excitment and surprises of the show is amazing, and I would give anything just to return to the intrigue, mystery, and shock that one can only get from being an Unsullied. I know saying this might have me given to the Red God by my fellow sullied, but I am done with the books until the show is over. Love George, love his masterpiece, but David and Dan have created something that quite possibly could become the standard that all future serials are held against. I may know whats coming, but I sure as the seven don’t know how it will end!!!! And I can’t wait for the show to catch up so I can once again can join the ranks of the Unsullied. Lord Oz, my sword and my ale are yours.

  80. Patchy Face
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Oz – Love you and Ozette! Wish you were my next door neighbors! oh – what is your prediction for Tyrion and Sansa?

  81. Book Nazi
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    I was Unsullied watching season 1 but then i read all 5 books before season 2 started and for me personally, i prefer to be Sullied. Yes I dont get surprised from the show but I already got them from reading. And unlike all the book readers who had to wait 16+ years inbetween the 5 books, I dont hold the resentment of having to wait so long. Plus I am able to keep the books and the show as two different entity where the slightest change does not make me go crazy. Having all the details from the books does allow me to actually enjoy the show more because there is only so much you can fit into 10 episodes per season. The best part is all the internet trolls out there cant spoil anything for me, and there are so many of them out there.

    Of course this is just my personal feeling but regardless you’re Sullied or Unsullied, the show is the best on TV right now to be enjoyed by any and all.

  82. Mother of Ozlings
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:45 pm | Permalink
  83. Abendstern
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Loved the unlikely predictions. Especially the Lancel sandwich, can’t get that image out of my head ever again…

  84. Zish
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    I’m also kind of annoyed that people constantly call Daenerys “Khaleesi”.

    It’s a title. Like Queen. How has this not been made obvious?

    You’re basically saying “I think Queen will take this city and blah blah blah..”

    I don’t even read the books.

  85. Lynn of House Swann
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    I’ve gotta say, as a sullied, I love/hate watching the show with my roommates, who haven’t read the books.

    As much as I love hearing their predictions (some of which are spot on, others . . . not so much), I find it very hard to react to them either way.

    Like, if one of my roommates goes “Wow, I don’t trust character X”, after one brief scene without a whole lot of subtext, and they happen to be RIGHT . . . I’m like “Uhh. Yea. That’s interesting . . . .” But I feel like my response gives something away.

    I will say, though. I have made plans to definitely be home to watch it with them for the final two episodes of the season. I can’t wait to see some of their reactions to stuff that will happen this season and next.

  86. Blood of the Dragon
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    One thing I love about this is that, seeing as I’m Sullied, I can’t wait to see the reactions of all the Unsullied when the next two episodes come out. It will be interesting to see you guys find out if any of these are correct or not in real time. That’s one of my favorite parts of knowing what’s coming, seeing the reactions of those who don’t. Happy (hopefully) viewing!

  87. Jentario
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Lehnaru:
    When you say “she eats Loras” do you actually mean… eats? As in… actually eating him? :|

    I know you. From another forum, another universe. Awesome.

    We have similar tastes :)

  88. ACatLover
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Card of Doom: It is 100% smug superiority.
    Everyone knows Rob is Robb, John is Jon and Khaleesi is Danaerys (or Dany for those that think they are tight with her like that)

    :)

    No. It isn’t. And your assumption that it is “100% smug superiority” says more about you than it does about people who correct spelling.

    For many of us, spelling correctly is important, even when it doesn’t obstruct understanding — we try to spell everything correctly, even if it’s just a name, and we can’t understand why someone else wouldn’t care. Correcting someone is offering a helping hand, just like someone who knows how to change a tire might offer help to a person struggling to change their tire. It has nothing to do with superiority or looking down on someone; in fact, just the opposite. It has to do with helping people be correct, which is a noble calling in the eyes of many.

    And then there are others who are just compulsive (not OCD, that’s a disorder… but compulsive nonetheless), people whose brains it hurts when something is spelled incorrectly or referred to incorrectly. This has nothing to do with being smug, either.

    Both of the above affect me.

    In that spirit, you spelled “Daenerys” incorrectly.

  89. Anterograde
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Chris,

    I’m in a very similar boat.

    I watched Season 1 as an Unsullied. Sometime before the second season started I read through the first three books, and watching Season 2 and 3 as a Sullied has been a bit disappointing. For me, it went something like:

    Watching Season 1: “WOAH AWESOME!”
    Reading Book 1: “WOAH AWESOME!”

    Reading Book 2: “WOAH AWESOME!”
    Watching Season 2: “That was great, but the book was better.”

    I’m hoping if I refrain from reading more, I can recapture that double-shot of awesome. I’d recommend to any Unsullied to remain so for as long as possible.

    I HATE that I’ve completed the third book =(. I have to wait over a year (possibly 2) before I can be Unsullied again!

  90. Liz B.
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Wonderful way to pass the “off-week!” Thank you, Oz.

    As one of the Sullied (ew…), I say to my fellow readers: Spoil not! Imagine if someone told you what happened in the book when you were in the middle of reading it! Be nice!

  91. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    A very interesting read, thanks Oz!

  92. Chickenduck
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Lancel sandwich.

  93. srsly
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    QueenofThorns,

    Yeah, but Daenarys’ name is repeated all the time! Every episode of S2 had her saying “I AM DAENARYS STORMBORN OF HOUSE TARGARYEN”

  94. Roopert
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    You had me at Lancel Sandwich ;-). Thank you for the post – you made my rather long day much more entertaining!

  95. Viola
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Before arriving at King’s Landing, J&B have a moment of clarity, decide they are made for each other, kill Bolton’s men, and ride off into the sunset together never to be heard from again.

    Please let this happen. I would burn leeches full of Gendry’s blood for this to happen.

  96. Sky Aero
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Unsullied, these next two episodes… Jaw and floor will meet. They will be amazing and i think that Sullied and Unsullied alike will be left in awe!

  97. Adam 2nd of his name
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Great, fun post. I hope you do this again between season 3 and 4. Predictions like this but for season 4 instead from the unsullied perspective. I am a sullied surrounded by all unsullied, and I love hearing ideas. I can’t wait until we are all at the same point as no doubt the shows catch the books up at some point.

  98. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Patchy Face:
    Oz – Love you and Ozette!Wish you were my next door neighbors!oh – what is your prediction for Tyrion and Sansa?

    I share your sentiments Mr/Ms Face. Maybe we can work that out one day!

    On Tyrion/Sansa, to put it bluntly, I am stumped. So much of their ongoing marriage revolves around power in the kingdoms. As long as Joffrey/Tywin are in place, I would think that eventually Sansa would be having a Lannister child, even if Tywin had to observe the consummation.

    But Sullied are Un, we can all agree that things will not stay the same for long in Westeros. It is just a question of who ends up where and when.

    I am fascinated to see how the rest of the Starks will react when they hear about the two getting hitched and if Robb speeds up his battle plan as a result.

  99. Rhys
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    I have no idea how…the internet or computers work(s) so excuse me if this a stupid idea but would it be possible perhaps for WiC to introduce a comment report system, so if a comment is reported a few times as a spoiler it will be hidden pending a moderators judgement or just plainly deleted. Only, I’m sure the moderators on here have lives and can’t moderate this place all day.

  100. rhaego
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    my predictions as unsullied:
    -bolton completely turns on robb and gives harrenhal and riverlands to lannisters
    -bran and rickon split up, the wildling(i forget her name) and meera and jojen dont like each other
    -arya is brought to robb and catelyn
    -the wedding is ambushed by walder frey and then, robb, catelyn and the gang are taken prisoner (with all of catelyns warnings about walder being a bad man to cross)
    -jaime sees cersei and has fun
    -brienne is taken prison by loras
    -dany takes over yunkai and get selmy and daario killed in the process

  101. Lina
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    What are your predictions for Sansa? Margaery? Bran and company? I am genuinely interested in your response, but I hope my post doesn’t get deleted, as my eyes have wandered over those unmentionable collected-and-bound pages printed with words (it is known).

    (Frankly it’s ridiculous and sort of alienating that readers are being told they can’t comment at all, even if their posts contain no trace of spoilers whatsoever).

  102. arolig
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Clara:
    alan curtis,

    It really flavoured my reading of the books, especially the first one as I could only picture the actors. Not that that is necessarily bad, but still. With minor changes, which most so far are, I liked seeing how it had been adapted. Also the POV stuff is impossible to 100% get on TV, so I loved the extra insight in the books. Also as soon as I overtook the show it was all new which was great.

    Some of the characterisation is different sure. I enjoyed Dany more in the books I think and Jon too. I think I benefited from seeing their thought process. However, I liked that everyone was a bit older in the show. I know its a Medieval world, but I just preferred it, especially Robb (though he’s not POV I suppose anyway) and Dany. To be fair though, that may be due to my introduction to the characters on the show originally as older.

    But with the show I almost wish I hadn’t spoiled. The element of surprise was so great. I mean when Ned died in season 1 I was completely thrown.
    On the other hand the little inside jokes, and knowing more than the characters, or what they’ve left out makes me delightfully smug at times. D&D are great at throwing in inside jokes. Also I do find the names less confusing now than before.

    So on the whole there are pluses and minuses. If I was giving advise to Unsullied, don’t do it mid season (I did). Also if you love being so unsure all time and enjoy the element of surprise hold off reading them.

    Sorry for the very long post! Hope it answers the question.

    As a Sullied I wanna answer this to. I started reading when season 2 was done I think. And for some stupid reason I also spoiled details for myself in for the Wiki of ice and fire.
    Knowing some of the biggest facts before I get to them in the books is something I don’t mind. Becouse I look for it beeing foreshadowed. Also I start analysing what some characters are really saying, and sit trying to find clues about the books big mysteries, like who is Jon’s mother?
    So you can say I go to it at first reading looking for the small details straight away. Instead of reading the book one time for the sake of reading pleasure, and a second time for finding the foreshadowing and nifty details.

    I would think the Unsullied can have great fun reading the books. And I would think that the longer they manage to wait, the better the reading experience will become.

    Respect to the Unsullied, they are as true fans as the Sullied :)
    This was a good read.

    Also, when seeing season 1 as Unsullied, I was never doubted Eddards death. I knew it would come that season. Why…??? Becouse Sean Bean played him, he almost always dies!

  103. Hear Me Roar
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Oz! Truly enjoyable.

  104. Ours is the Fury
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Lina: (Frankly it’s ridiculous and sort of alienating that readers are being told they can’t comment at all, even if their posts contain no trace of spoilers whatsoever).

    We’ve been pretty lenient about enforcing the deleting-Sullied-comments in general thing. You have to realize, we’ve already had to delete more than a dozen comments from book-readers like you who thought they were making harmless posts commenting on this thread, but were in fact posting spoilerish reactions in their commentary. Sullied readers rarely mean to spoil- their intentions are good. People just want to chat, but they end up accidentally spoiling the Unsullied and Oz who was good enough to write this piece for you all to enjoy.

  105. Jentario
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar:
    Thanks Oz! Truly enjoyable.

    It really is

  106. Adam
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    SPOILER ALERT

    ——SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS——

    It’s spelled “Robb.”

    xoxo,
    a Sullied.

  107. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Lina:
    What are your predictions for Sansa?Margaery?Bran and company?I am genuinely interested in your response, but I hope my post doesn’t get deleted, as my eyes have wandered over those unmentionable collected-and-bound pages printed with words (it is known).

    (Frankly it’s ridiculous and sort of alienating that readers are being told they can’t comment at all, even if their posts contain no trace of spoilers whatsoever).

    Hi Lina….

    I don’t think it was WiC’s or anyone else’s desire to alienate anyone. I welcome all comments, Book reader or non, to provide input. We knew a post like this would be inviting for spoilers, and these guys and gals do their best to keep the Unsullied protected.

    I mentioned Sansa above, and when I come back, we shall discuss Margaery and Bran.

    A man shall return…. Ozling duty.

  108. Jar baby
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    My prediction?……..Pain

  109. SJD79
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Man I wish I could watch your reactions to the next episodes. I have told my wife she should really hold off on reading the books for a while just so I can cackle evilly a lot

  110. Bro without Banner
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Thanks Oz, great article as ever.

    Im not going to even predict where things are going in the remaining two episodes as i’m enjoying your unlikely predictions too much! I’m enjoying being passive in the conversations with my close friends who I watch the show with because their predictions really tend to reflect who they are, does anyone else experience this?

    I’m going to remain unsullied until the show ends i’ve decided.

  111. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Jar baby:
    My prediction?……..Pain

    Mine? “Death is coming for everyone and everything. A darkness that will swallow the dawn.”

  112. Turncloak
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:30 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Thanks for the hard work in moderating this! Now I need me some Hodor predictions from the unsullied! Lets do this

  113. Wrath of the Gods
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    Great predictions, Oz. You’ll know the truth in two weeks!

  114. Lundy
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    I am one of the Sullied. And since I can’t share sullied knowledge, can I talk about The Borgias? And how freakin’ hawt the actor is who plays Cesare Borgia?
    No?
    Darn, can’t say anything else after all…

  115. GB
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Nothing about Bran, Jojen, Meera, Hodor and Osha?????

  116. gisizzlah
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    I love this!!! makes me jealous of the Unsullied…. i love your perspective on things…

  117. The Queen's Hand
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    If Cersei can’t handle the idea of being with anyone but Jaime then why was she sleeping with Lancel?

  118. Lazlo Woodbine
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    My wife is a paediatric surgeon. The other week she treated a baby named ‘Khaleesi’.

  119. MW
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    Bran’s story is so compelling that it didn’t merit a prediction.

  120. Lord Michael Bolton
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Any predictions as to who “boy” is?

  121. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 8:33 pm | Permalink

    Lord Michael Bolton:
    Any predictions as to who “boy” is?

    or, as the Facebook recaps call him, Evil McFuckingCrazy :P

  122. Geoff
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Wonderful predictions!

  123. superkick
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    whats up with the jorah love? He was originally there betraying dany for the crown…

  124. Tabes
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 8:49 pm | Permalink

    Love it! Thanks for doing this, so glad people have discovered this MASTERPIECE!!!!

  125. dio forel
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    SirSquinty,
    Clearly you were bullied a lot in school. This post is not getting graded for grammatical errors. It is an informal post. This is an entirely casual site… Why must it be treated like a collegiate dissertation? If you can’t comprehend what he said then clearly you are lacking… Severely. Get over yourself, apparently the rest of the world has.

  126. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 9:10 pm | Permalink

    Jar baby:
    My prediction?……..Pain

    Nice to see at least one other Rocky fan around here.

  127. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Tabes:
    Love it! Thanks for doing this, so glad people have discovered this MASTERPIECE!!!!

    Wow. I’m not sure I’ve ever authored any piece of work that has been considered the ALL CAPS word mentioned above. But I am flattered nonetheless.

    I am really glad you guys enjoyed the predictions. And thank you Sullied for doing your best not to spoil us. It is much appreciated.

  128. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Tabes,

    Or maybe you were just talking about the show….. That would make more sense. Thanks anyway!!

  129. Gatorfisch
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

    Lehnaru,

    Do I foresee a Hannibal Game of Thrones crossover?

  130. wargsareawesome
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

    Just out of curiosity (nothing against the wonders of Oz) what happened to our former unsullied recapper, WeDoNotSow? did s/he go Sullied? vanish off the face of the internet? both?

  131. Winter Is Coming
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    wargsareawesome:
    Just out of curiosity (nothing against the wonders of Oz) what happened to our former unsullied recapper, WeDoNotSow? did s/he go Sullied? vanish off the face of the internet? both?

    He’s been quite busy with his burgeoning business and also just had a new baby, so he wasn’t able to continue with his recapping duties. He remains Unsullied and is still a big fan of the show!

  132. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,
    Winter Is Coming,

    Speaking of We Do Not Sow, Oz, why haven’t you taken the words of a great house as your user name like the other contributors? And if you plan to, may I recommend ‘Growing Strong’? :P

  133. Adria
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    So how come a Sullied thread has not been created as several people have suggested here? There are always Sullied and Unsullied threads for recaps, but for this prediction post, the Sullied just have to sit this one out? No fair and no fun.

  134. Shan
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Shan,

    Wait, how are you posting under my name? That is the weirdest thing ever.

  135. Shan
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    Shan,

    Okay, I actually get the how. My real question is the “why.”

  136. Eleanor
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    I am loving the Lancel Sandwich and its tragicomic outcome.

  137. House Minor
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Amazing post Oz! As a Sullied I loved every bit of it. I’m not sure if you said something about this above, but will there be another post with the other characters? Would love to hear what you think about Margaery, the Queen of Thorns and Sam etc.

  138. Alfador
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

    The “unlikely predictions” crack me up, especially the one with Jon!!

  139. Joh
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:36 pm | Permalink

    Lazlo Woodbine,

    uuuuuh bro, sharing that info is actually getting dangerously close to a HIPAA violation

    But yeah I work in pediatrics, too and I will say that Game of Thrones inspired names have become quite popular.

    Khaleesi – it’s the new “Princess”

    A few years ago, the trend was World of Warcraft inspired names. I’ve seen some really beautiful and creative names come out of fandoms.

  140. Joh
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:43 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu: or, as the Facebook recaps call him, Evil McFuckingCrazy :P

    It has a nice ring to it. Sounds better than “Nightmare-Fuel Vuvuzela Player”, which is what I was going with.

  141. Unsullied#98
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    I am an unsullied! To some extent, my expectations are similar to the Oz. But I have some deviations after watching the preview of episode-9. Here are those.

    1. Hound: This could be the major cliffhanger in next episode. We all know hound is taking Arya to his mother and brother. Hound may enter the Edmure’s wedding by disguising (he has a knife/sword in preview. May be trying to kill a frey soldier and take his cloths) and will try to bargain a price for Arya. In other words, Hound will become a wedding crasher!!! (Look how happy Edmure is in preview. That may change in one instance, I am pretty sure!). Earlier in this season, I saw that Edmure is not happy at all about Robb’s reaction towards capturing several Lannister boys. So, he may try to be a hero in his own wedding, in front of dozen of lords, trying to kill Hound and that may go awkward. He will be killed by Hound. After Edmure’s death Robb, Bolton, Talisa, or even Walder Frey will try to intervene the situation and one or several will be somehow killed too. (Sad to say, but my heart says Talisa will be killed by Hound and Robb will be killed too). We already have witnessed how strong the Hound is (duel with Beric, even he is facing with his most hatred thing, the Fire, indicates and develops his character into this moment, I think). Finally, the wedding will become a blood bath. However, my gut says Hound will be able to escape away with Arya somehow by using the distraction caused by Edumre/Talisa/Robb death.
    2. Jon Snow: In the preview there are lot of frames dedicated to this guy. He will try to escape after killing Tormund, or Orell. Price is, he will probably lose an eye. Because one camera shot indicates that Orell’s eagle is coming towards his face. And also I saw an arrow in his butt. Is it Yigritte’s arrow? If so, his Love is over! That’s not good too. Poor Jon Snow! Can’t imagine how much his wounds will cost his future in castle black.

    Since other things will not be much thrillers like above two incidents, I do not mention those here.
    What do you guys/gals think? Hope I haven’t spoiled anything! :)

  142. Joh
    Posted May 28, 2013 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    If any of Oz’s Unlikely predictions come true, HBO has me as a subscriber for life. :D

  143. Jason
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    I don’t understand you sullied posting things like “I love you perspective” even the OP specifically said don’t comment. Don’t means DO NOT.

  144. Hamid
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    I really enjoyed this article and I hope that more like this are posted on the site.

  145. Currer Bell
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 1:45 am | Permalink

    Ohhh, I just can’t stand it. I have to tell you,

    Harry Potter wins and Voldemort dies.

  146. Ren Snow
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 1:58 am | Permalink

    QueenofThorns:
    Ren Snow,

    “Khaleesi” is what 99.9% of show watchers know her as.Why is it that book walkers always feel like they need to point out this kind of meaningless detail?Some kind of burning desire to feel smugly superior is all I can really guess…

    This is not about superiority, I watched Season 1 before reading the books. Its simply a matter of paying attention to a line like “Not a Queen… a Khaleesi”. Its like calling Cersei “Queen”

  147. blackbird7309
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 3:07 am | Permalink

    Forgive me for being Sullied…Nonetheless I enjoy reading your comments, Oz. I just love the way you write!
    Sullied or not, I don´t think people should claw each others throats out because of misspellings/grammar or “wrong” titles. We´re all human and not everyone has English as their first language (I don´t)…let´s play nicely :)

  148. MRR
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    dio forel:
    SirSquinty,
    Clearly you were bullied a lot in school.This post is not getting graded for grammatical errors.It is an informal post.This is an entirely casual site… Why must it be treated like a collegiate dissertation?If you can’t comprehend what he said then clearly you are lacking… Severely.Get over yourself,apparently the rest of the world has.

    This is the biggest GoT fan-site on the web (not counting websites primarily dedicated to the books like Westeros and TotH). I think it behooves them to have some standards. Since when was proper spelling and grammar only a property of “collegiate dissertations”? Proper spelling and grammar make comprehension simple and easy, while errors lead to an uncomfortable reading experience.

    I’m not trying to be stuck up about it or just complain, but I do see the value in good writing and I don’t think someone should be treated like a villain just because they do too.

    Furthermore, I think what you say regarding being bullied at school is pretty damned insensitive, but that’s another matter altogether.

    On topic: Spelling/grammar mistakes aside, I enjoy this thread. I don’t really think we “sullied” need a place to comment ON the comments, because I’m pretty sure we’re all just thinking the same things anyway.

  149. dragonreborn
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 3:37 am | Permalink

    a and currer bell,

    it’s not funny putting spoilers about harry potter and making them hidden.
    go play elsewhere

  150. Douglas
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    I really like your predictions! Just out of curiosity, are you 100% unsullied as of right now or have some spoilers slipped past these nets? I was unsullied once, and I remember how hard it was to avoid spoilers, cause, you know, the internet is dark and full of spoilers!

  151. Silverstormm
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 6:23 am | Permalink

    MRR,

    Just for sh!ts and giggles combined with a hefty dose of why the hell not;
    I took issue with the fact that not only was the poster being picky over 1 tiny error (‘he’ instead of ‘him’, for heaven’s sake!) but that was the only reason for his post. No remarks regarding the content just a (very) snarky nitpick. Oz has obviously spent a considerable time thinking about his predictions and making his post not only interesting but very entertaining for everyone and all some people care about is ONE small error – realllly?!? Quite honestly it truly beggars belief!
    I shan’t get involved in further discussion about this because I’ve said all that needs saying and if you or anyone else want to continue harping on about it, that says more about you than anything else.

    Re: spoiler thread; quite obviously some of us would like a place to discuss it, as unlike you I’m not a mind reader and therefore, don’t know what everyone else is thinking.

  152. Jayne
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    I just had a similar conversation with an unsullied friend of mine. Her predictions are:

    * Dany conquers Yunkai, gets more soldiers, and goes over to Westeros next season.

    * Robb will become aware of the threat behind the wall, and realising his limited options, returns north (and thanks to the alliance with the Frey family, and the new threat coming from Dany’s arrival, he will be largely left alone until the endgame).

    * Theon gets tortured by his sister. He finds out, escapes, and tries to take revenge.

    * The competition between the Lannisters and the Tyrells will – without anyone of them actually wanting this – go out of hand and lead to a swift but brutal fight. Only one family survives, and will then have to fight against Dany.

    * In turn, Dany will forge an alliance with Stannis, who is much older than her and will name her is heir.

    * The big endgame, however, will be a fight between the gods, Stannis (who, because of Davos, will return to the faith of the seven), Dany (who, given the connection between dragons and fire, will fight for the red god) and Robb (who fights for the old gods).

  153. David
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Very much enjoyed the Unsullied analysis. Having read the books but not had chance to watch the series, anything could happen. Thought the last poster’s ideas about factions aligning themselves to different gods/religions as the overall endgame was quite astute and probable-never thought of the story that way as an endgame before.

  154. GeekFurious
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 7:23 am | Permalink

    These guesses are awesome.

    I can’t wait for this weekend… and next.

  155. arolig
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Lord Michael Bolton:
    Any predictions as to who “boy” is?

    Like you don’t know that? really stupid comment

  156. valyrian
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    Great post Oz!

    Oh, and can we stop complaining about how people want to call a character? People KNOW her name is Daenerys, but they want to call her khaleesi, WHAT’S ALL THE FUSS ABOUT IT????? Geez…

  157. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    valyrian,

    the fuss is because there are some unsullied who legitimately think her name is Khaleesi, which is extremely irritating.

  158. Ross
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 8:42 am | Permalink

    Fascinating thread. Wish I was still unsullied sometimes – so much of the thrill of this brilliant programme resides in not knowing what’s coming.

  159. SB
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    I think you’re missing some very build up storyline here about Rob. I genuienly think, that the war that Rob started has started crumbling on him from the very start, and as he went he lost too many. A big example is the beheading of Karstark, and for Rob to go all the way and be allied with the freys? I don’t know. I think not only he’s going to lose his kingdom which he already has, but he’s going to lose Talisa/his life /both. I sincerly think Rob has been too cocky for his two victories, and the betrayal of Roose Bolton means something bad is going on.
    Now for Dany, I don’t know why you think it would take time for her to land on westeros, just based on the fifth book name “Dance with Dragons” it clearly implies she lands on the fifth book or the end of third book (fourth book is parallel to the fifth), about Daario he’s a bloody viper I can tell, he won’t last long enough and if Jorah dies I will lose hope on her survival at all. Now, Selmy isn’t really doing anything so I can expect him going down, but I liked what I saw from the bits they showed us of his character, I want to see him stepping in the hall of the king yet again over Joffery.
    You think Tywin will die? I really don’t believe it, he’s such a great strong character that is in leauge with the masterminds, Baelish and Varys. I he will not die too soon, and Joffery will never convince any golden cloak kill the second strongest man in the world. (I’d say he’s even the strongest one). Anyway, Joffery will not kill Tywin.. Tho I’d like to see Tyrion killing him, felt really bad for him on the first episode of the season, his father is a bloody bastard.
    Now, Jon snow, I think he will betray the wild savages and the night watch (after realising that mormont was murdered) and will join the story south of the wall with ygritte. I think Bran will get to the wall and will continue this saga, leaving the night watch storytelling to be blind, unless Sam is given more storyline.
    I think Theon’s story is being built up for him to be half of what he is, like Jaime only without salvation. He will get out, but he probably won’t be the same. Maybe Yara will help him get out? She did attack the north and obviously Theon is in the north.
    Hopefully some of what I said is logical at all, cheers.

  160. jasonw
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    why? multiple characters call her Khaleesi in a way that no one calls Cersei Queen.

    here is just one character

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yca1HbizssY

  161. WinWolf
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 9:40 am | Permalink

    valyrian,

    i agree its just stupid to keep calling someone by her title,
    What if we never mention ned stark again and just refer to him as warden of the north.
    I think its indeed plain stupid that so much fans dont even know danys name.

  162. Tabes
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    LOL, I was indeed referring to the show/story OZ. However your writing is excellent and as a companion to the show, it all comes together to form a MASTERPIECE. So take pride in your work. I’m just geeked we now have our GOT community going strong and you my friend are doing a great job helping to lead the way.

  163. Chris
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    As a Sullied, I find these analyses and predictions a blast.
    When the weekly reviews come out, I always go to the non-book-readers’ reviews FIRST to see how events play for someone not already familiar with the stories. Of course I know what’s going on (well… except for the cases where D&D have taken a little D&D Detour from the books, of which there have been quite a few) but the test of how well this story has transitioned to the screen is, of course, how well it’s followed and understood by someone who hasn’t come straight from the source.
    As for this latest round, I’ve got only one thing to say…. MORE!
    I think you should do a whole additional round of these in two weeks, after the end of the season. What did you expect all along? What surprised you? What do you expect from here. I suspect Dany and Tywin’s wedding will blow your mind. Just kidding.

  164. jasonw
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    WinWolf,

    “Dany” has only been said once i think, when Viserys got his crown. Blame the show not the fans that people in the show refer to her as Khaleesi and not her name. The book gives us stuff like “dany did this, dany did that…” show people only hear Kahleesi so what else would they call her

  165. Bane
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    jasonw,

    Wrong, Dany herself has said several times things such as “I am Daenerys Stormborn etc.” But maybe not enough?

    I still think everyone who watches the show should have learnt here name by now…

  166. jasonw
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Bane,

    you are talking about when she starts listings all of her titles… show watchers are not remembering that. they know what people call her which is Khaleesi.

  167. John Galt
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    The island is a dream, and they all died in a plane crash… Oh wait, wrong spoiler.

  168. Nagga's Kin
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Don’t know what will happen, but here are a few things I’d like to see in the last two episodes of season 3 or the first few in season 4:

    a) Jaime and Brienne deepen their platonic relationship when they agree the war needs to come to a quick negotiated end lest the countryside be completely depopulated. After returning to KL, they discover that Arya ran away and that Tywin has forced Sansa to marry Tyrion. They realize the exchange of prisoners they had promised Catelyn is no longer possible. Having lost his sword hand, Jaime asks Joffrey to be dismissed from the Kingsguard. Tywin approves, because he wants to Jaime rather than Tyrion to inherit Casterly Rock. However, rather than letting his father arrange yet another strictly political liasion, Jaime unexpectedly asks Brienne to marry him in front of the assembled court. She is torn between her newfound respect for his humanity and her vows to Catelyn. Meanwhile, Tywin, Cersei and Tyrion all turn against Jaime and each other, to differing extents and for different reasons. House Lannister stands divided against itself. Joffrey finds this amusing and is last seen arming his crossbow. Meanwhile, the Tyrell women look for ways to exploit the situation.

    b) Lord Bolton, Lord Frey and the new – as yet unnamed – head of House Karstark decide in a secret meeting that they have a golden opportunity and a shared interest in taking down both House Stark and House Tully a peg or two. However, this being GoT, they completely lose control of a tense situation at the wedding after some incident that would otherwise have been considered trifling. The Hound defends Arya, who vows to cross him off her list. She manages to escape with Talisa.

    c) Orell’s eagle discovers that Castle Black has recently been destroyed in a fire. Based on what’s left of their clothing, some of the burnt corpses appear to have been men of the Night’s Watch, others wildlings. All of the gates to the tunnel are badly damaged and open. In the embers of maester Amon’s quarters, Jon finds a metal case containing an unfinished message to an illegible recipient, asking for troops and obsidian weapons. The case also contains the thimble Gilly had returned to Sam. Unfortunately, all the ravens and horses are gone or burnt. He re-emerges to find Ghost suddenly standing in the yard, snarling at Orell in mid-warg as Ygritte aims her bow at his eagle.

    d) In a surprising twist, Littlefinger arrives in Braavos. At the docks, he is met by an obviously wealthy man standing next to an ostentatious palanquin, flanked by bodyguards. The two clearly know each other already and, we learn that the stranger is the son and heir of the ailing president of the Iron Bank (fittingly, this is a cameo for David Benioff). The conversation then switches to a dialect of Valyrian but we are denied the benefit of subtitles. The bearers carry the the duo out of earshot.

  169. Bro without Banner
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    How does Jorah refer to Dany in the show? End of pointless argument

  170. Bane
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 11:47 am | Permalink

    jasonw,

    Maybe you are right, about a lot of people at least. Personally I have always found it easier to remember names when stated in such a “solemn” manner! ;)

    (for example when in S1 the king is presented as “Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of his Name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm”, although it must be said that his name is repeated a lot more often in other situations as well).

    Does anyone know how many times Daenerys’ name is spoken in the series so far?

  171. Ed
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    That’s what we call a First World Problem.

    Ser Tahu:
    valyrian,

    the fuss is because there are some unsullied who legitimately think her name is Khaleesi, which is extremely irritating.

  172. Nagga's Kin
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    Bane:
    jasonw,

    [...] Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of his Name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm [...]

    Seven hells, this is a thread for speculation on future events from the Unsullied.

    Do we really need a completely unrelated subthread about proper names and tiresome aristocratic posturing? Do you have any idea how hard it is for most non-readers to remember the character names of the entire cast of GoT? So they call Dany “Khaleesi” rather than “the Khaleesi”. So what?

  173. SirSquinty
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    MRR,

    Thank you. Perhaps I could have worded it differently. However, this is not the first time I have had this specific frustration with the person who speaks for the ‘Unsullied.’ I am not among the Unsullied myself, yet I read the posts because I enjoy viewing a non-reader’s perspective, specifically one who is not a paid ‘critic.’ I appreciate someone else who understand’s my gripe, and who understands the notion that grammar and spelling be reserved solely for a college dissertation is stupid.

    Comprehension is comprehension, and should be evident in any piece of documented writing. I write a 4-7 page review each week’s episode and publish it on Facebook. Who sees it? My friends do. Do I get paid? I do not. But it doesn’t matter because I like my ideas and thoughts to be clear and understandable.

    It is evident to me that the Unsullied reviewer’s first language is indeed English. I only wish that were represented in the words, because I otherwise enjoy his or her thoughts.

  174. SirSquinty
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Silverstormm,

    The reason I got upset in the first place is that I enjoy Oz’s posts. If I didn’t enjoy his or her posts, I wouldn’t have read the part of the review that bothered me. I do enjoy Oz’s posts, which is why I got upset. If I didn’t care, I wouldn’t have said anything. See my above comment for further information.

  175. jasonw
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    SirSquinty,

    you’re just mad people dont read your reviews that you feel are better. go away no one cares

  176. SirSquinty
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    jasonw,

    First of all…wonderful grammar. I’m glad you’re staying consistent. Second of all, I have plenty of people who read my reviews…notice how I didn’t solicit anyone here to read mine. Third of all, Oz’s and my reviews cannot be compared because he has not read the books while I have. Though I try to be unbiased, my reviews are not going to be impartial no matter how hard I try.

  177. jasonw
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    SirSquinty,

    haha, just as no one cares about GeekFurious’s posts on the ratings threads (still love you though). on one will ever care about your grammar posts ever. there is a contact button on the top you could have used to send it person edits, instead you post your unsolicited grammar lessons in the comments. it is rude and pompous.

  178. WBB
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Paw Paw Tywin. Holy shit. That is what I will see him as from this moment forth. You are awesome.

  179. MRR
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Silverstormm: MRR

    I agree that SirSquinty was a bit more harsh in tone than he ought to have been (as he later admitted himself), but…

    1) There was more wrong with that sentence beyond a he/him mixup.

    2) That wasn’t the only mistake in the article.

    3) Going over-the-top and belligerently insulting someone for their criticisms (as many have done here) makes the whole community worse. One person being a bit of a jerk does not justify others being a jerk to them; that’s not how people learn and that’s not how things change for the better.

  180. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Just a quick note…..

    I agree 100% with MRR on the fact that this is the biggest GoT website out there, and that it should have standards. I pride myself on authoring posts that meet a certain standard, and I hold myself accountable to make it as error-free as possible. SirSquinty correctly pointed out that I made a grammatical error, and I am always open to constructive criticism. The great visitors here at WiC deserve quality posts, and I will strive to do better.

    Now, let me say this to the Squinty one (and anyone else who may want to concentrate on my writing structure rather than the content itself)…. I will probably make a mistake again. In fact, I am sure of it. And if a mistake makes your reading experience dreadful, then perhaps my posts are not for you. But your comment, although strongly worded, is duly noted and will almost certainly push me to improve. So for that, I thank you.

    Overall, the comments have been overwhelmingly positive and I do appreciate the feedback. Ultimately, it is about the show we all love and the passion we share for it. As long as the readers enjoy my stuff, and WiC and Company will have me around, I will be here.

    But if you want perfection, you might have to skip on the Oz posts. I just haven’t quite perfected it yet.

  181. TheWoodOfTheMorning
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    I refuse to refer to myself as “sullied,” but as a book reader, this was a very fun read. My Unsullied friends actually want me to spoil the show for them but (as always) I PLEAD THE FIF! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnzRSArwYY

  182. Alan Lovejoy
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    There could not be a more appropriate slang term for those who haven’t read the books than “Unsullied.”

    However, I much prefer the term “Book Walker” to “Sullied” as the slang term of choice for referring to those of us who have read the books.

    What say you?

  183. Hounded
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Just read this on a site from an Unsullied and it made me sick to the stomach.

    “I loved Season 1, but the real story ended with Ned Stark, Season 2 was the epilogue and all this other stuff is just noise with very little, if anything, actually happening. Can anyone actually name every old, grizzled man that now graces GoT?”

    I think many ASOIAF fans would agree with me when I say the story properly BEGINS when Ned dies.

    I just wondered what the Unsullied here thought of this viewpoint.

  184. ForTheLoveOfRobb
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    I think from the Melissandre visions via leech roasting, Joffrey is the most likely candidate to get the ax rather than Tywin. As much as I loathe Joffrey, if he dies, I will be greatly saddened to see Jack Gleason go. He does such an awesome, blood-curdling portrayal of the sadistic man-child….it would be a bittersweet day.

    I’m not sure whom Jon will meet first: Sam & Gilly or Bran and company. either way, they will be heartbroken assuming Jon has converted to the enemy’s camp and Jon will be heartbroken that he cannot tell them the truth…and I think Jon will have to commit some sort of act to confirm his allegiance for one of the two camps..either by hurting Ygritte or by hurting Bran or Sam (whomever he meets first)…the ironic thing though is no matter whom he meets first, that person will also be accompanied by a wildling…that will be interesting to see how Osha deals with Ygritte and vice versa…it would be interesting to see if there are any rivalries between the wildlings…

    not sure about Daenerys but I hope the Joray, Daario, Dany triangle does not end badly for Daario…well, cause mama likes! :-)

    I think the Hound and Aria are going to be the new Jamie & Brienne. The hound will realize that Aria is just as bloodthirsty as he is and he will probably swear his allegiance to her like Brienne did to her momma. I do agree with Oz that the Frey deal seems to have gone way too smoothly for camp Robb. Walder being the crafty bastard that he is, is going to see Aria (who was promised to one of his sons) and in addition to Edmure, he will insist that he wants to keep her at the Twins until the war is over, as safekeeping since he will not take Robb’s word anymore

  185. Oz of Thrones
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Hounded,

    I would absolutely disagree with that Unsullied sentiment. I will probably write about this a little more on Friday, but I knew I was hooked when I watched the first episode.

    When Ned lost his head, I knew that I was about to be engulfed into something I had never seen before.

    The beginning indeed.

  186. Hounded
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 5:25 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    I realize now that I have calmed down I may have over-reacted slightly!
    “Sick to the stomach” – I’m such a drama queen!

    However I am glad that some of the thoroughly decent Unsullied over her on WIC.net agree with me!

  187. Lancel Sandwich
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    I need some Unsullied to watch with in the future. I love their reactions. Even when I know what’s coming I still get surprised, too. Like the first “You know nothing Jon Snow.” I squealed like a schoolgirl.

  188. SirSquinty
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    I appreciate your honesty and I appreciate your dedication to improving it next time. I wasn’t questioning your thought process. I am extremely excited to see what you have to say after this week’s and next week’s sure-to-be-jaw-dropping episodes (hyperbole much?) I am so incredibly against spoilers so I’ll obviously say nothing. But I greatly look forward to your input and thoughts.

  189. SirSquinty
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Lundy,

    Please for the love of god let’s talk about The Borgias. It is easily the best show on television right now that no one is watching. (GOT is obviously the best that everybody is watching). As a fellow member of the Sullied, I look just as much forward to the next Borgias episode as I do the next GOT.

    Lastly, does anyone watch Orphan Black? That is hands down the best new show of the 2012-2013 TV season and I IMPLORE that every single person here go watch and support it. I’ll assume you all enjoy some good sci-fi and fantasy, so you will all presumably LOVE Orphan Black, one of the smartest new shows I’ve ever seen.

  190. GeekFurious
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    John Galt:
    The island is a dream, and they all died in a plane crash…Oh wait, wrong spoiler.

    Also, not a spoiler to any show.

  191. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 29, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    SirSquinty:
    Lundy,
    Please for the love of god let’s talk about The Borgias. It is easily the best show on television right now that no one is watching. (GOT is obviously the best that everybody is watching). As a fellow member of the Sullied, I look just as much forward to the next Borgias episode as I do the next GOT.

    I personally have been thoroughly disappointed with The Borgias, and it fails to hold my interest most weeks.

  192. Miles
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 5:28 am | Permalink

    the lancel cersei loras joke literally made me lol.

  193. Dany's 1-Eyed Dragon
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    Here’s a little more wild Unsullied speculation before the final two episodes of the season.

    The White Walkers are not evil!
    I came up with this theory after the last episode and when a saw trailer for a new movie this weekend. Let me explain. I did not understand why the White Walker parade let Sam live in the Season 2 finale, but discounted it until the White Walker only pushed him aside (albeit a good whack) again in the last episode. Same goes for the first scene of the very first episode. Why did he let the one crow go, when that White Walker could have easily sliced his head off (before Ned did as punishment for his desertion)? I wrote it off as the White Walker wanting to send a message that “we are coming,” but now I am thinking differently. Now, let me get back to that movie trailer… it was called “The Purge,” and the movie looked awful, but the overall concept familiar and somewhat interesting. The Purge theme is that one night a year all crime is legal, and people go about killing the weak and/or other criminals it seems. So I thought maybe that is what the White Walkers are… a 1,000 year purging of the evil that has infested the living. We know Sam is a good guy and I doubt he ever harmed anyone. The White Walkers could probably see that in Sam’s eyes, and can see the evil in the eyes of the one’s they kill. We know the Night’s Watch consists mostly of hard core criminals, and the Wildlings are notoriously a murderous bunch, so it is plausible that many in both camps would be slaughtered without anyone piecing together such selective killings of the White Walkers. Yes, I am having trouble reconciling the baby sacrifices with this theory, but we never have seen the White Walkers actually eat the infants or harm them in any way. The mind wanders when there are two weeks between episodes.

    Robb and Walder take Casterly Rock
    I realize the marriage slight is a big deal, but what alternatives does Lord Frey have at this point? Who is he going to marry his children off to? There are no more eligible bachelors or bachelorettes in House Lanister, Tyrell or other powerful house in Westeros. So Robb admits he messed to Walder, but explains that he hasn’t lost a battle, and the Lannister and Tyrell forces are weakened from the Battle of Blackwater Bay, so if Walder and his army help him take Casterly Rock, then the Freys can keep Casterly Rock along with Harrenhall to make amends for Robb’s marriage pact breach. Walder recognizing that he now has a Tully marriage and a Stark marriage in Arya, who shows up just before the wedding and is not permitted to leave the Twins until the age of majority and wedded, takes Robb’s deal and they easily conquer Casterly Rock together.

    Jon Snow unites the Wildling and the Northern Army
    It’s probably no coincidence that the traveling bands of Jon and Bran have a strikingly similar makeup: Wildling women looking after Northern men, wargs and giants (well I guess the Wildling giant contingent is still north of the wall, but you get the idea). “Hodor!” Jon makes both sides realize that there is not much difference between us,so why can’t we all just get along? (very weak, I apologize). Nevertheless, they realize the Wall is needed to keep the White Walkers at bay so Jon brokers a deal between Mance and Robb that if the Wildling help guard the wall (some become crows – e.g., Tourmound become the new Lord Commander taking over for Mormont), and take Kings Landing for the King of the North. The Wildlings can become snowbirds and migrate south every winter and head back north of the wall every summer when the elements are not as harsh.

    Shocker Death – Cersei
    After Ned’s beheading, and the numerous characters in the show, anyone (perhaps besides Dany or the dragon saga would seemingly disappear) could die at any moment. I just think Cersei is starting to lose her grip a bit. After the trauma of the near sack of the red keep, losing her control over Joff, and then having to marry Loras, she’s become a train wreck. Lady Margery regains her composure after Cersei’s cold-blooded death threat and solves the problem. She poisons Cersei and makes it look like a suicide. She writes a letter stating that she (Cersei) had an affair with her bother Jamie last year after all she could take of King Roberts whoring around, and although it only happened once, she can no longer live with that guilt. Then next season, Margary convinces Joff that he is a true Baratheon King and to disown his Lannister roots. He already hates Tyrion so that’s easy enough, she further plants the usurping grandfather theme and has Tywin killed for treason. Just like in college football, No. 2 always beats No.1 – sorry Lannisters, the Rains of Castimore will play no more!

  194. Lancel Sandwich
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    Dany’s 1-Eyed Dragon: Dany’s 1-Eyed Dragon

    I like this theory about the Walkers. I hadn’t thought of them that way before and now I want to go re-read the books to see if it fits there as well.

  195. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 9:39 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    As a lover of history, particularly Renaissance History, I wanted to love the Borgias. I like Jeremy Irons, I like Holiday Grainger and Sean Harris is amazing. It’s just poorly executed in my opinion.

  196. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I completely agree, although for me the stand out actors are (or were) François Arnaud and David Oakes (and Jeremy Irons, of course). The execution is just absolutely horrible.

  197. UF
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Hounded,

    I did scream at the TV screen when they beheaded Ned, partly because he was my favorite character and partly because I couldn’t believe they went there.
    However, GoT is SO MUCH MORE than individual characters. Whoever wrote that doesn’t really get it.

    I cringed in a similar way when I found a girl’s site and she went on about how she was a huge Dany/Drogo shipper (and that was after Drogo was dead). I was all like, you totally missed the point of this show…

  198. Joshua Taylor
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    I liked Oakes as well. He was the best thing about that godawful Pillars of the Earth adaptation. It’s pretty bad when you find yourself cheering for William Hamleigh. Although I do love me some Hayley Atwell.

    As for Arnaud, I don’t know he wasn’t what I wanted for Cesare. I guess I just didn’t like some Québécois guy playing that role. He was too akward and creepy. He could be better now but I’ve only watched the first season as the blu ray for season 2 was never released in Canada.

  199. Ser Tahu
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Yeah, it was mostly his stuff in season 2 that impressed me. And so far in season 3 he has essentially been the lone stand out.

  200. Hounded
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    UF,

    Yeah exactly. when a beloved character dies we mourn them then move on. This series has plenty other interesting characters to root for.

  201. Gregory Kelton
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    If you come into this thread to point out there are 2 b’s in Robb’s name, or “Khaleesi is a title, not a name”, please do us all a favor and go DIAF. Thanks.

  202. Melinda_O
    Posted May 31, 2013 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    I am very sullied, myself, but I TOTALLY loved reading these predictions. Not because they were right or wrong, but because they make me feel unsullied again. Well done.

    The following is only vaguely spoilerish:

    I do have one comment about the books and I hope this doesn’t get my post trashed… One of the best things about the show is that we get to see a lot of things that were only alluded to, or told in retrospect in the books. Sometimes seeing these things actually play out can open the mental eyes of readers, while either not standing out, or possibly confusing non-readers until the end game is revealed. I hope that makes sense. I think that there is very little, if anything at all, that isn’t show with a purpose.

    Meanwhile, I’m looking forward to the next edition of Unsullied Predictions!

  203. Melinda_O
    Posted May 31, 2013 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Ren Snow:
    Why do you keep using “Khaleesi” as a proper name?… it’s just a title like Queen or Princess or Lady

    I think we do this because she is called simply Khaleesi by character’s in the show, I’ve never heard Khaleesi used in addition to her formal name. The same is not true of Khal Drogo. We almost always heard his title with his formal name.

  204. Melinda_O
    Posted May 31, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Someone may have already said this and I apologize if I missed it…

    Prepare to be spoiled on the Hodor storyline… I can’t help it… I have to tell you what will happen…

    Hodor will say, “Hodor.”

  205. Melinda_O
    Posted May 31, 2013 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Clara:
    alan curtis,

    … If I was giving advise to Unsullied, don’t do it mid season (I did). Also if you love being so unsure all time and enjoy the element of surprise hold off reading them.

    A word of warning… Don’t get smug and think that you can read up to the point where the show stops… You would have to be VERY strong-willed to pull that one off. ;-) Once I started, I couldn’t stop until I got as far as there were books. Come on GRRM! We need the next book.

  206. Melinda_O
    Posted May 31, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    srsly:
    QueenofThorns,

    Yeah, but Daenarys’ name is repeated all the time! Every episode of S2 had her saying “I AM DAENARYS STORMBORN OF HOUSE TARGARYEN”

    Yeah, but Daenarys’ name is repeated all the time! Every episode of S2 had her saying “I AM DAENARYS STORMBORN OF HOUSE TARGARYEN”

    This is true, but perhaps Kahleesi is not only a title, but can be used similar to saying, “your majesty.” We see examples of this all the time. Jorah often simply calls her Kahleesi.

  207. gosensgo
    Posted May 31, 2013 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Oz of Thrones,

    OMG – Oz, what a great article. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I have made some predictions before in the newbie recap of second sons. And you brought up some good predictions I would have not thought.
    all I care about at this moment is JOFFREY PLEASE DIE LOL
    Jks..
    Cant wait for sunday.

    ALSO – wow I cant believe how many posts picked on your grammar and spelling of Robb.. Like calmmmmmmmmmmmmm down people. I write this as I sit here and study for my certified accountant exam – there are bigger problems in the world today lol

  208. anabasis888
    Posted June 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Book Nazi:
    I was Unsullied watching season 1 but then i read all 5 books before season 2 started and for me personally, i prefer to be Sullied.Yes I dont get surprised from the show but I already got them from reading.And unlike all the book readers who had to wait 16+ years inbetween the 5 books, I dont hold the resentment of having to wait so long.Plus I am able to keep the books and the show as two different entity where the slightest change does not make me go crazy.Having all the details from the books does allow me to actually enjoy the show more because there is only so much you can fit into 10 episodes per season.The best part is all the internet trolls out there cant spoil anything for me, and there are so many of them out there.

    Of course this is just my personal feeling but regardless you’re Sullied or Unsullied, the show is the best on TV right now to be enjoyed by any and all.

    Surprisingly, my history is identical – and I agree with all comments 100%.

    By chance, I have just stumbled upon this site. So, so late. My Bad. And very much My Sad. I am overjoyed by your perceptivity, love and commitment to HBO’s GoT. I find your deeply thoughtful Unsullied views interpretations and ideas to be not only fresh and welcome; but they give a new insight into “the books” and set me off thinking outside the box – just like The Sullied do with their debates on their “reader websites”. But your “innocence” opens up a new world. Thank you!

    Another advantage of being Unsullied is that you are not involved in arguments or interpretations, unlike Sullied are when D&D’s HBO work “answers” a question, trick or confusion posed by GRRM. Too often they see D&D’s position as “solving the GRRM problem”, and that is always unproven. You are fortunately unsullied “clean” of that.

    In the way that GRRM throws out clues and confusions and things are hiding in plain sight, it seems that D&D are playing the same game; possibly their own game. I watch the episodes 4 or more times and still miss issues. Like an Atlantic Wire NONSPOILER article suggesting the Mrs Robb has always been a Lannister spy. The sharp-eyed, sharp thinking Unsullied could add a lot of interest to such themes. Like, WHY might the HBO series be spending so much time on Theon’s torturing? Is it likely timewasting or important? If possibly the later; then “Why, possibly?”

    Thank you Oz and Ozzette; great work!

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