New Split filming location details
By Ours is the Fury on in Filming, Production.

cellarsDetails about several new locations have surfaced today about the season four filming in Split, Croatia.

According to the Dubrovnik Herald, there will a “day or two” of filming in the cellars of Diocletian’s Palace. After that, filming will move to the Klis Fortress, located in a village of the same name outside of Split. Production will film there for five days.

The article also reports that there may be additional shooting for a “desert scene” at an “abandoned quarry near Žrnovnica and the surrounding waters in the area,” Žrnovnica being a settlement within Split.

Ours is the Fury: Well, a desert scene is intriguing! If the report is accurate, perhaps there will be an introduction for the Red Viper before he arrives in King’s Landing. The Klis Fortress is beautiful and remote- maybe a location for a journey to the Eyrie? What do you think the cellar of Diocletian’s Palace will be used for?


67 Comments

  1. Tolgeros
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Dorne.

  2. Crozyr
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOODOR

    Edit: Hodor :(

  3. ytdn
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if the cellar of Diocletian’s Palace will be used for Tyrion’s escape throught the tunnels.

  4. Andrew
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    ytdn,

    thought the same thing

  5. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    How would the paper know it would be used for a “desert scene”? Let’s not get carried away here. They know where they’re shooting, but I doubt the paper has inside info on what will be shot there.

  6. Nick Larter
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Diocletian’s Palace House of Black & Whitewould be my guess

  7. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    OtherAndrew,
    That’s what they heard. Someone could have said, “Yeah this would look good for a desert scene. Cool. Let’s do it.” There ya go. That’s all it takes. We get inside news sometimes, so why wouldn’t they? They live there. It’s completely possible. But hey, it could be totally wrong. We’ll find out once they start shooting, or when we see season four. So sit back and enjoy the speculation.

  8. Old Nan
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Is the geography of this setting even conducive to a desert scene? Knowledgeable wic commenters should inform us.
    That palace is lovely. I’m hoping it could be the House of Black and White or parts of the Red Keep.

  9. King DBC
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    The cellars are below the Red Keep, I’m sure.. When I read desert scene, my mind went you know where! But I don’t wanna get carried away…

  10. jentario
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Either for Tyrion’s escape, the House of Black and White or some random indoor location in Meereen.

    EDIT: The desert scene is likely something to do with Dany

  11. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    I’ll paste my own post from the other post:

    Thanks for the info…that certainly puts Dorne back on the table. Also, lot’s of mountain sceneries, so the Vale could not be far fetched. I don’t think Mereen, makes much sense if they are still shooting in Morocco, and I think we can discard Braavos, . And some of those could be for KL. Let’s see point by point

    1- The Red Keep Dungeons? Some building in Dorne?

    2- That fortress reminds me of Alhambra from afar, wich would mean Dorne again…but it also reminds me of how I envisioned the Eyre while Reading the books, before the show used a Byzantine inspired building instead. I can’t recall if there are any other Vale fortresses on the book. Could also be Mereen if they decided to move the filming from morocco to croatia in future seasons for convenience, but I doubt it

    3- Mountains is either Dorne or the Vale

    4- If it’s confirmed it’s for desert scenes, it can only be Dorne or Mereen, but why go there for Mereen if they are filming in Morocco. If the desert comment was made by the poster and not the source it could be a nice place to either build a set, or to film somethink like The Mountain and the RV duel and then add CGI

  12. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Maybe they are taking out the sewers under Mereen for logistical reasons and replacing them with tunnels?

  13. darquemode
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Love the idea of the palace cellars being the tunnels under the Red Keep!

    I wonder if the quarry and surrounding shores (or one of the locations) and the 300 extras noted earlier could be for the Kingsmoot?

    I thought the meadows in Iceland sounded perfect for the Kingsmoot, but Old Wyk and the hill where they hold the Kingsmoot had hills and black stone mountains didn’t it?

    300 extras on a stony shore with dark grey rocky mountains in the background…add in some giant sea dragon ribs….. Yea, I can see the Kingsmoot.

  14. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    I was guessing there could be an introduction to the Red viper before he goes to king’s landing after news of that child was released, as in my opinion, she looks like she could play one of his youngest daughters. But if the area being used is the one in the picture, I could see it being the black cells/where Tyrion escapes through. Although you have to remember, is it really practical for them to get a new set for that? They already had Ned held in them in the first season and it seems way cheaper to reuse something like that than go to a new location. But I don’t know if they have access to where the Red Keep was filmed in the first season, so I could be wrong here. Interesting enough, that looks similar to this picture I saw on the SoIaF wiki: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/c/c3/Red_Keep_tunnels.jpg Plus, isn’t it supposed to be ridiculously dark anyway?

  15. jentario
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano:
    I’ll paste my own post from the other post:

    Thanks for the info…that certainly puts Dorne back on the table. Also, lot’s of mountain sceneries, so the Vale could not be far fetched. I don’t think Mereen,makes much sense if they are still shooting in Morocco, and I think we can discard Braavos, . And some of those could be for KL. Let’s see point by point

    1- The Red Keep Dungeons? Some building in Dorne?

    2- That fortress reminds me of Alhambra from afar, wich would mean Dorne again…but it also reminds me of how I envisioned the Eyre while Reading the books, before the show used a Byzantine inspired building instead. I can’t recall if there are any other Vale fortresses on the book. Could also be Mereen if they decided to move the filming from morocco to croatia in future seasons for convenience, but I doubt it

    3- Mountains is either Dorne or the Vale

    4- If it’s confirmed it’s for desert scenes, it can only be Dorne or Mereen, but why go there for Mereen if they are filming in Morocco. If the desert comment was made by the poster and not the source it could be a nice place to either build a set, or to film somethink like The Mountain and the RV dueland then add CGI

    Was it confirmed that they will film in Morocco?

  16. Carne
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    darquemode,

    Wouldn’t quite fit with the Northern Ireland locations they’ve already used for the Iron Islands. Suddenly a load of palm trees in the background :P

    My guess is more King’s Landing.

  17. mariamb18
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    ytdn:
    I wonder if the cellar of Diocletian’s Palace will be used for Tyrion’s escape throught the tunnels.

    Bingo…I think we have a winner on what the cellars will be used for!

    Desert = Dorne for me but that may be wishful thinking. The rocky landscape seems likely for the Vale. Great information!

  18. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

    jentario: Was it confirmed that they will film in Morocco?

    I’m not sure, it was meant to be interrogative in the other thread and I think it doesn’t show here ;)

    If it wasn’t, then they surely moved Danny’s adventures to Croatia. If it was, they still can shoot half in Morocco and half in Croatia. That Fortress can make a nice Mereen.

    I’d like to know how credible is the source about the quarry meant to be for desert scenes or just the journalist speculation. Compared to Morocco that quarry makes a pretty crappy desert imo, specially if it’s supposed to be the dunes from Dorne :P

  19. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    mariamb18: Bingo…I think we have a winner on what the cellars will be used for!

    I suggested that first on the other thread but whatever ;)

  20. Lars
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    I’m not sure why people think that something desert-like means Dorne. It is more likely for a Dany scene around Mereen.

  21. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    darquemode:

    Kingsmoot will be shot in Þingvellir, Iceland, were they actually holded real Kingsmoots more that 1000 years ago

    http://www.holidaym.ru/iceland/img/thingvellir6_b.jpg

  22. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    Lars:
    I’m not sure why people think that something desert-like means Dorne. It is more likely for a Dany scene around Mereen.

    Well because they are already shooting Dany’s desert scenes in Morocco so it would be a little strange to move the production to Croatia, unless they’re not shooting in Morocco anymore….

  23. House Farwynd
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    Klis is definitely one of the keeps on the way up to the Eyrie. I would think.

  24. House Farwynd
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano: Kingsmoot will be shot in Þingvellir, Iceland, were they actually holded real Kingsmoots more that 1000 years ago

    http://www.holidaym.ru/iceland/img/thingvellir6_b.jpg

    You sure about this? It would be great, since I’m both Icelandic and my WiC alias’ family makes its only appearance in that scene!
    But I doubt it, at least it’s as far from any sea as you can get in Iceland and quiet a busy tourist destination, at least in the summer.

  25. Andrija Andrew P
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    I’m not sure what scenes they will film but there are some pretty arid places in the hinterlands of Dalmatia… Besides at least a few season 2 scenes were filmed around Dubrovnik and they were depicting desert scenarios….

    A few pics of Klis Fortress, IMO a great setting
    http://croatia.hr/Images/t900x600-333/croatia_dalmacija_klis_0001.jpg

    http://www.tportal.hr/ResourceManager/GetImage.aspx?imgId=485053&fmtId=131

    http://www.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Portals/0/images/2013-05-03/sport/vid_domaslava1-220212.jpg

    Oh and here’s another article with a few cool pics, you can always run it through Google translate if you guys have any interest in reading it, it comes out as mostly intelligible…
    http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Magazin/View/tabid/75/ID/122764/EKSKLUZIVNO-Igra-prijestolja-snimat-ce-se-u-Dioklecijanovim-podrumima-Klisu-Zrnovnici-i-Baskoj-vodi.aspx

  26. Alen
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Klis Fortress is giving me Fingers-vibe. Also, I think you may be reading too much into the desert scene comment. A desert scene at a quarry? Unlikely. These locations are not very Dornish. But the quarry may be used for Fingers as well. Or maybe the Vale.

  27. Jentario
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Alen:
    Klis Fortress is giving me Fingers-vibe. Also, I think you may be reading too much into the desert scene comment. A desert scene at a quarry? Unlikely. These locations are not very Dornish. But the quarry may be used for Fingers as well. Or maybe the Vale.

    I don’t see a reason not to cut the Fingers and move those scenes to the Eyrie to cut back on locations.
    EDIT: Davos and Theon would agree (about cutting fingers).

  28. Chickenduck
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    House Farwynd: You sure about this? It would be great, since I’m both Icelandic and my WiC alias’ family makes its only appearance in that scene!
    But I doubt it, at least it’s as far from any sea as you can get in Iceland and quiet a busy tourist destination, at least in the summer.

    They’ve said they definitely are using the Þingvellir as a shooting location, but they haven’t said what for yet.

    Everyone keeps guessing Kingsmoot, but might be something completely different.

  29. franco
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck: They’ve said they definitely are using the Þingvellir as a shooting location, but they haven’t said what for yet.

    Everyone keeps guessing Kingsmoot, but might be something completely different.

    Well, they’re going to film at an historical place were real kimgsmoots were hold is only logical to see the fans want it to be true, not many times we have the chance to see history and fantasy mixed togheter

  30. WildSeed
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    Tolgeros:
    Dorne.

    Word .

  31. thrillhouse
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Tower of Joy confirmed.

    Wishful thinking.

  32. mariamb18
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    Pau Soriano,

    Sorry – didn’t see your post on the other thread.

    Pau Soriano: Well because they are already shooting Dany’s desert scenes in Morocco so it would be a little strange to move the production to Croatia, unless they’re not shooting in Morocco anymore….

    Agree. Do we have confirmation yet that they will shoot in Morocco again?

  33. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Lots of locals would know where they’re going to shoot and be able to confirm that. Much fewer would be privy to the knowledge of what will be shot there. This paper showed that it had a lot of detail on the 4 locations. Yet there was just one vague thing thrown in there about what they were supposedly shooting in one location. It is very thinly-sourced. Yet people are saying “confirmed!” and “Dorne Dorne Dorne!” Sure I guess we need to keep busy but I’m just saying let’s not get ahead of ourselves in what’s been “confirmed.”

  34. Turncloak
    Posted July 3, 2013 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    “desert scene” =dorne

    “and the surrounding waters in the area,”= water gardens

    Money in the bank

  35. Bard
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    Whatever it’s going to be, these are beautiful locations. I’m really looking forward to see them in Season 4.

  36. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 2:22 am | Permalink

    Andrija Andrew P,

    Could they use this location to film Sansa’a escape from the Red Keep? Nobody has yet mentioned that possibility. That or the Vale makes the most sense. There is zero need for them to visit the Fingers.

  37. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 4:18 am | Permalink

    House Farwynd: You sure about this? It would be great, since I’m both Icelandic and my WiC alias’ family makes its only appearance in that scene!
    But I doubt it, at least it’s as far from any sea as you can get in Iceland and quiet a busy tourist destination, at least in the summer.

    I really hope so because I’m going back again there this summer! :-)

    As others have said, what better place to shoot it at?

    And from 1 to 10 in the scale of busy destinations in summer Thingvellir would be a 1, whereas Dubrovnik would be a 10, and they don’t have problems filming there hehe ;)

    By they way don’t you guys over there in Iceland have a way of finding out more info on the shootings? not only where, but what actors would be shooting there, where are they staying at etc?

    Because we’re talking about Split a lot, but we have no idea of what they gonna shoot in Iceland in summer. Had anyone mentioned Osha&Rickon adventures? With Ramsay and Theon making an appearance, maybe thinking even about Skagos in the future? Or maybe Asha and the Dreadfort arc

    I don’t think the battle at the wall will be shot there myself, and regarding the kingsmoot I’m starting to lose faith about it appearing this season as we should already be hearing about some actors being cast for those roles

  38. Wun-Wun
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 4:23 am | Permalink

    I know i’m going off topic here but how do you think they’re going to handle the whole Mereen sewers thing? because there is no big reveal for Whitebeard to say he’s Barristan & he said that he didn’t sit in on the small council, so he wouldn’t know that Jorah was informing on Dany. So she’s got no reason (at the moment) to give them an ultimatum & send them down there… I NEED SEASON 4 NOW DAG NABBIT!!!

  39. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 4:32 am | Permalink

    mariamb18:
    Pau Soriano,

    Sorry – didn’t see your post on the other thread.

    Agree. Do we have confirmation yet that they will shoot in Morocco again?

    I found this but I’m not sure if it’s reliable. Careful there are some spoilers:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/game-of-thrones-spoilers-season-4-starts-filming-july

    An extract:

    “Parts the of the season will be filmed in Iceland which doubles as Westeros while anything involving Daenerys Targaryen will be filmed in Morocco”

    But I’ve searched the web for further confirmation and haven’t found anything, so I think that journalist just made the Morocco stuff up

  40. Arthur
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 4:40 am | Permalink

    Off topic…

    Why can’t I play guitar like this? Just asking…

    http://www.3rdeyegirl.com/#video-0-0

  41. NomadicDirewolf
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    Dioceltians palace is probably the tunnels under the red keep, or somewhere inside Meereen (tunnels instead of sewers when Barristan and Jorah take the city) or maybe the huge dragon pit Danaerys has if they’re going a bit farther. Could also be the House
    of Black and White
    As for the desert scene, it could be for a danaerys scene (though surely that would be in Morocco?) or for a scene with the Red Viper before KL, but I highly doubt they’re going to have Dorne in as a proper storyline this season, there is nothing going on really in that storyline until Book 5, and that cant be done early because it revolves around a specific point at the end of aSoS. Even when they get to Dorne, there’s barely enough going on to have two seasons worth of stuff, which is probably what they will need, they’d need to cast four or five new characters, and not really use them, if they felt like getting a storyline started early i’d go for the kingsmoot, not dorne

  42. King DBC
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 6:18 am | Permalink

    I hope the GoT location scouts consider the Namib Desert in Namibia when they need Dorne. They’re vast, beautiful and isolated. No buildings and stuff in the backgrounds.
    See for yourself:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Namib_Desert_Namibia(1).jpg
    As far as I know, filming here in Africa is kinda cheap… Mad Max is currently filming in those deserts.

  43. darquemode
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Carne,

    Ha! XD
    Quarries around here don’t have trees so I was not expecting there to be palm trees in that quarry either… Regardless, I still think the Iceland locations make for a better Kingsmoot. I’m just trying to figure out what the 300 extras could be for I guess…

  44. koryanshea
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    they are looking for athletic male extras, those might be unsullied so we might have Daenerys in Split, yaay! The basement in the palace reminds me of lower parts of her pyramid in Mereen.

  45. Lou Reed
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    I think they are shooting all the scenes at Split with the same crew. I doubt it is the Dany storyline going to split, especially since it will be a short stay there. And they would want to stick with extras from Morocco, rather than suddenly using Croatian extras.

    If they are kick-starting the Dorne arc this season, Split locations would definately be a good way to go, with some exotic scenery.

    Could be for some reason they decide to go strong on Littlefinger meeting Lysa arc, turning the fingers into some exotic place. Just seems a bit unlikely.

    Or this could just be the need for more Kings Landing locations, with the Wedding and all. And some fighting scenes with The Viper and the Mountain, in desert like surroundings.

  46. Dark Roamer
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    jentario,

    Or Dorne

  47. Hear Me Roar
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 8:37 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Just to add my 2 cents: the desert info in the Croatian papers that I read frame it as speculation only. “Given that the Dubrovnik quarry was used for desert scenes with Dany, the could be the case here as well …”

  48. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar,

    This report mentioned the quarry almost as an afterthought so who knows, but they didn’t mention Dany at all, so I guess the other paper is adding their own speculation.

  49. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Hear Me Roar:
    Ours is the Fury,

    Just to add my 2 cents: the dessert info in the Croatian papers that I read frame it as speculation only. “Given that the Dubrovnik quarry was used for dessert scenes with Dany, the could be the case here as well …”

    Funny, I don’t remember any “dessert scenes” with Dany. I don’t think we’ve seen her eating at all…except for that horse’s heart Dothraki initiation scene in S1.

    [Oh, my wife just nudged me...she thinks you mean "desert"....well...nevermind]
    :-)

  50. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Andrija Andrew P,

    Could they use this location to film Sansa’a escape from the Red Keep? Nobody has yet mentioned that possibility.That or the Vale makes the most sense. There is zero need for them to visit the Fingers.

    Not true. It adds something to Littlefinger’s ambition to see just how low his birth is and just how bad his land is. I guess they don’t need to visit the Fingers, but it’s better than just talking about “oh Petyr is so lowborn, oh he’s such a climber–him and that ladder!” and having characters give exposition about him. Actually showing where he started makes his aspirations more real in a way. I have a similar opinion about Casterly Rock, if we ever saw it. Seeing how much the Lannisters already had, even without rubbing elbows with the king, would make us despise their ambition even more. So far, Littlefinger is one of the few cookie cutter characters in the show. So it would be helpful to add some complexity by letting us see his lands.

  51. Hear Me Roar
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Hodor’s Bastard,

    Yes yes, I know :) Shame on me, noticed too late, hehe ;)

  52. AA
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 10:18 am | Permalink
  53. Selmy
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Does anyone know the likelihood of there being more casting announcements at comic con this year? I really hope so and its only 2 weeks away!

  54. tysnow
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the post and location shoot update; definitely the cellars will be used for under the Red Keep, since Malta was used the last time and not filming there anymore, these work perfectly.
    Klis Fortress has four possibilities…
    1) The Vale
    2) The Dreadfort
    3) Sunspear Gorgeous money shot I can see shooting from this angle.
    4) Mereen – If you notice from Yunkai visuals in season 3 there was no water/sea nearby, and those views from Klis over to the Adriatic are too stunning not to be utilized.

    Therefore I am leaning to either 3 or 4 for Klis, if Yunkai takes Mereen’s place then it’s definitely Sunspear. I like the idea of white washed buildings with red tile roofs for Dorne, to distinguish it from Dany’s arc in Essos, along with Turkish Towers dotting the cityscape. BTW, does anyone have a pic of that Turkish Tower they want to use for filming, I have been unable to Google it.

    Quarries are good for CGI because it’s easy to replace the background and superimpose the graphics. Like PJ did in LOTR and D&D have done for Vale the Red Waste, etc.

    BTW, D&D have stated there are not sticking to the book formats anymore, so they can shuffle Dorne into season 4 and something from 4 into 5. They will reconfigure their adaption as they see fit to flow better and keep us entertained and for us sullied, to catch off guard.

  55. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    tysnow,

    Yes, but they are not going to cast characters like Doran or the Sand Snakes before they are necessary. When we first get a glimpse of the Dornish POV it is after Oberyn’s death, when The Sand Snakes,Arianne, and most of Dorne are furious that Doran isn’t doing anything to take revenge. I really doubt we see Dorne in S4, as it makes zero sense story wise to introduce it before the Red Viper’s death.

  56. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    tysnow,

    Yes, but they are not going to cast characters like Doran or the Sand Snakes before they are necessary. When we first get a glimpse of the Dornish POV it is after Oberyn’s death, when The Sand Snakes,Arianne, and most of Dorne are furious that Doran isn’t doing anything to take revenge. I really doubt we see Dorne in S4, as it makes zero sense story wise to introduce it before the Red Viper’s death.

    What? How does it not make sense to show a character in their home land? The only thing it doesn’t make sense to introduce before that happens is the plotting the other characters are doing. You can still see the location without introducing all those plots/characters. One or two establishing shots, maybe a conversation between him and another character. It’s a perfectly sensible thing to do…Small scene, possibly with him and a daughter/Doran, setting up their characters without vomiting exposition and informed characteristics all over the place. He leaves, shit gets real, we’re back in Dorne later to see the fallout. Give em a bit of the Greyjoy treatment, in a way. They really aren’t interested in following the order we see things in the books anymore. They can’t be, going into season 5. They will tell the story chronologically, and its easy to introduce him before the King’s Landing crew meets him.

  57. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere,

    You seem to miss the part about having to cast main characters like Doran or Arianne, which costs money. Money that can be better used in places other than casting characters before they are necessary to the story. They pushed back Ramsay,the Reeds,the Blackfish, and Edmure until they were absolutely necessary for the story. I don’t see them all of a sudden bringing new characters in before they even appear in the books.

  58. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    haltwhogoesthere,

    You seem to miss the part about having to cast main characters like Doran or Arianne, which costs money. Money that can be better used in places other than casting characters before they are necessary to the story. They pushed back Ramsay,the Reeds,the Blackfish, and Edmure until they were absolutely necessary for the story. I don’t see them all of a sudden bringing new characters in before they even appear in the books.

    No, I did not miss that part, because I think that little girl could potentially be one of his youngest daughters. She looks enough like him, from comparisons I have seen. I didn’t say a single thing about Arianne. And like I said, it’s becoming more about telling the story than making things happen when they happen in the books. There had to have been a conversation between the Red Viper and Doran before he left, or between the Red Viper and his children, and that is material ripe for characterization. Necessary to the story as its told in the books is irrelevant when you have things like pregnant nurse Talisa being stabbed in the baby at the Red Wedding and Asha ilovemyfamily Greyjoy sailing around Westeros to get Theon. Things are different in the show, and they are going to be done differently, with a focus on telling the story. As a storytelling device in a visual medium, introducing a small part of the family now is perfect.

  59. Finja
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    Ah, that is nice news! I’ve already been to those cellars under the Diocletian’s Palace and found them rather scary.
    They are wide with high ceilings and the walls not being smooth but eroded from time. Its humid down there with its many catacombs seeming a bit like a labyrinth.
    I can wonderfully imagine the cellars under the House of Black and White there.

  60. Uther Greenshirt
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    I see KL, Dorne, the vale and maybe even High Garden….

  61. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 5:48 pm | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere,

    They won’t cast Doran just so he can have a farewell conversation with his brother before he departs Dorne. They killed off Talisa because she was an unnecessary character to the story after Robb dies. The budget is only going to get tighter with the dragons growing. They are going to try to conserve money where possible. Not casting Doran or other Dornish characters until they are needed in S5 is a way to save money. After season 4, there will be more room for new characters to be cast after the deaths of Tywin,Joffrey,Lysa,Ygritte,Oberyn, etc..

  62. Arthur
    Posted July 5, 2013 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I think you really hit the nail on the head.

    Makes perfect sense to me.

  63. Mare
    Posted July 5, 2013 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    since some of the desert scenes with daenerys were filmed in croatia, they are only speculating that it will be the same with žrnovnica quarry this time around. they claim as well that a big part of series 4 will be filmed in croatia.
    split may not have channels as braavos does, but the architecture fits quite nicely (especially the underground part of the palace). it’s a roman building so it does have sewers etc.
    i have no idea what they would be using mount biokovo (baska voda) for but it looks very impressive irl. it seems like vale, especially considering the fact that they will be filming in september and october, croatia is not as sunny at that time of the year as other mediterranean countries.

  64. Steve
    Posted July 6, 2013 at 1:04 am | Permalink
  65. Chickenduck
    Posted July 6, 2013 at 1:25 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I agree with your assessment. S4 will see some further negative population growth… Making room for more Dornish (Doran and snakes) and Ironborn (Greyjoy uncles) in S5.

  66. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 6, 2013 at 1:40 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,
    This^. And, if the show is anything like the books, season 5 should be the last time that we get a large number of new characters. The cast will likely hit its largest point in season 5 and then shrink.


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