Sherlock actor Mark Gatiss cast in season 4
By Winter Is Coming on in Casting, News.

Mark GatissSome more casting news for you, courtesy once again of James Hibberd at Entertainment Weekly, Sherlock star Mark Gatiss has been cast in season 4 of Game of Thrones. What role? Well, that is being held under wraps for now, but if I had to guess I’d say this is our Mace Tyrell.

In addition to appearing on Sherlock, Gatiss is also co-creator of the BBC series. Before that, he wrote and appeared in numerous episodes of Doctor Who. Which I guess ranks him up there with Nathan Fillion and Benedict Cumberbatch when it comes to geek credentials.

Winter Is Coming: I have to admit, I’ve never heard of Gatiss before. But it sounds like his resume is pretty impressive. I’m happy to have him on board, in whatever role it may be!

UPDATE: In an Access Hollywood interview at Comic Con (I can’t actually find it on the ‘net yet), Gatiss was cornered by a reporter. He refused to name what character he is playing, but hinted he would need a Northern Irish accent for it and “a bit of hair.” A wig, obviously! He also said that his audition called for him learning a large number of names. My guess? If I have to take a stab, I think he’s playing the amalgamation of two Greyjoys, possibly Euron and Victarion. (Vicuron?) My second guess would be someone at Castle Black reading off a scroll of names. Hopefully we’ll know more tomorrow! ~FaB~

SECOND UPDATE: HERE’S THE VIDEO! He says he’s already filmed his parts! Innnnteresting.


343 Comments

  1. Mubz
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    HOLY Yes! Love him!

  2. Rechido
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    Isn’t Mace fat in the books?

  3. Shywalker
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Excited about this!!

    Mace is probably a good guess.

    Tis the season for casting announcements– can’t wait for all of the Comic Con stuff later this week!

  4. Garlan the Gallant
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, I would think our Mace would be plumper and look more like a natural bumbler. But I can’t think of that many other possibilities.

    ….Donal Noye??? *crosses fingers* (Unlikely I know). Or maybe Styr the Magnar?

  5. Turri
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Mace?

  6. keefj
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    They should hire the rest of the league of gentlemen too!

  7. buckets of lube
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Magnar of Thenn perhaps?

  8. zzz
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Hodor.
    I alsways thought that the actor who played uther on merlin would have made a great mace

  9. jokay
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    uuuuuuuugh noooo

  10. J.Hancorn
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Love Mark Gatiss!

    I just can’t see him as Mace myself, at least not the one from the books, I don’t know why.

    Perhaps he’s one of the Iron Bank of Braavos representatives? It would certainly suit him more as a role imo.

  11. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Mycroft! Awesome! :-D

  12. Summer Is Coming
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    If Mycroft is Mace, I hope they put him in a fat suit. But hey, Illyrio should have been obese so..

    Another Mycroft could have been a good Mace. Stephen Fry.

    edit: Yes, Winter! You need to watch Sherlock!

  13. Wyvernwood
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Frankly, I don’t care what role he plays – he is excellent in pretty well everything he’s appeared in.

  14. B Cogman
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Winter, you need to watch SHERLOCK!

  15. Syrio
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    No way is this Mace. I’m going to guess someone on the wall. Denys Mallister? Cotter Pyke or Bowen Marsh.

  16. Nalum
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman:
    Winter, you need to watch SHERLOCK!

    Rather he needs to watch The League of Gentlemen

  17. Zack
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    yay! I hope it’s a prominent, multi-season role.

    :)

  18. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman:
    Winter, you need to watch SHERLOCK!

    Hey Bryan! I’m eagerly awaiting for your Q&A post, the first one was my favourite of this year ;)

    And yes, he NEEDS to watch Sherlock!!

    PS: And Black Mirror ;)

  19. Garlan the Gallant
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    Found a comedic clip of him in a UK series (“Clone”) here, if anyone’s interested

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U5G3i_3wgk

  20. Chrysee
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    1. Winter, geez. You need to watch Sherlock TODAY. It’s on Netflix I think.

    2. I love how people keep suggesting other characters he must be cast as rather than Mace. I have re-read these books several times over the years and I gotta say most often I can’t even place who these characters are. I can’t imagine they’d be cast at all (other than maybe featured extras) and certainly not with a well-known or even semi-known actor.

  21. Zack
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman,

    EVERYBODY needs to watch Sherlock.

    I’m currently on my 3rd watch of the series since discovering it in the window between seasons 1 and 2. It’s really addictive, some of the best TV on right now.

  22. Maxwell James
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Nice! If they cast Donal Noye, Gatiss might be an inspired choice for the role. It’s easy to see him as Mace as well, though he’s a tad too slender – he’s an excellent comic actor. I could also see him as the Kindly Man.

  23. Bea T.
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

    Hooray!!!!!!!! He was brilliant in Being Human UK and Sherlock :) I’m super excited!!!

  24. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Not sure this is Mace. Could be one of the Wall characters — Donal Noye maybe?

  25. Evie LePelley
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    yes yes on Mark Gatiss!! He is a fabulous writer. The episodes he wrote for Doctor Who are some of the best on the show ! He also appeared in an episode as well. He really is a fabulous actor and im beyond excited that he is cast in GOT. I def can see him as Mace.

  26. Shywalker
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    I just saw someone on the facebook post suggest Doran Martell as another possibility.

    Depending on how much Dorne they’re planning to introduce, I suppose that could be a possibility as well.

  27. AsimovBesterClarke!
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    I’m gonna go with some unorthodox guesses, because those’re more fun…

    Maybe Merritt Frey?

    Depending on how far they progress into Feast for Crows/Dance with Dragons… Euron Greyjoy? Any Greyjoy?

  28. Andrew
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    We’ll see if they’re saving the character rebel for Comic-Con. If they’re NOT, and this is a Ramsay-type situation where they want to actually keep the role secret, maybe [spoiler]The Kindly Man, Bloodraven, or Coldhands[/spoiler]

  29. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Man this guy pops up everywhere!
    I find him pretty annoying so he would be good as Mace as he’s pretty annoying…

  30. Darkstar
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    I don’t really care which role he plays, I’m sure he’ll be amazing!!!
    And people, honestly, you just HAVE to watch Sherlock, I can’t stress that enough!
    (goes off for a 10-second victory dance)

  31. direhound
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    I just saw someone comment on the EW article about him possibly playing Coldhands I would totally be onboard for that but don’t think they would announce that officially.

  32. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Not only Mycroft Holmes, but also from The League of Gentleman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJzL_wyMahU

    Great casting. A very good actor and writer.

  33. nyanmiau
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    coldhands maybe?

  34. HouseLark
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Terrific news, he can do no wrong in my opinion. As others have said, look for his work in League of Gentlemen rather than Sherlock but also check out Nighty Night which is amazing even if Gatiss does only have a small-ish role.

  35. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    direhound,

    Some of their guesses over there are hilarious. Randyll Tarly. Victarion.

  36. Maxwell James
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    AsimovBesterClarke!,

    Bloodraven’s actually an excellent idea. He’d need a ton of makeup but who wouldn’t? And I don’t see how they get through another season without that character, so being secretive about it makes sense.

  37. Wun-Wun
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    Ha Ha, Brilliant…

    Loved him in League of Gentlemen, and I cant wait to see him as Mace. Brilliant comedic actor :)

    P.S Nina Gold has done it again

  38. Robert Therrien
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Believe Mr.Gatiss would be a perfect Doran Martell.
    And for those who don’t know him… Go see the “Sherlock” right now.

    The very very best modern adaptation of Holmes I have ever seen in my life. And I am old. :)

  39. Dara
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    bowen marsh was in season 1

  40. BryndenTullying
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Not sure I could see him as Mace. Maybe Randyll Tarly?

  41. DaveB
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    He has a natural comedy to him, without being over the top. We can’t have our Mace being some kind of fat clown bumpkin with over-exaggerated facial expressions and slapstick mannerisms. If he’s Mace, he’ll be a great one.

  42. Samuel
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    I like the sounds of him as Mace Tyrell, but they could be recasting Kevan Lannister perhaps? I could easily see him as a Lannister

  43. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    BryndenTullying,

    Randyl Tarly is meant to be the hardest bastard there is. Mace is meant to be a bit of a bumbling fool. Gatiss is well versed in playing bumbling fools. I think he’ll be great as Mace.

    As for Randyl Tarly….

    http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk4Mzg4NTc2OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTM1MDUwOA@@._V1._SX640_SY853_.jpg

  44. Beyond the Wall
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Excellent! I am very excited that Gatiss is on board but I desperately want to know WHO he is playing (not that it matters, he’ll be brilliant whoever it is).

  45. The SheBear
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

    My guess is the Damphair!! Why would they keep mace in the dark??? Not tough enough for Euron or Victarion!

  46. Faz
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    I guess winter is American and that’s why he doesn’t know who Gatiss is, as he’s a well known name here in Britain :-)

  47. Kissed by Glasgow
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Great casting. Another excellent and multi-talented British actor joins the show. Can’t wait to find out who he’s going to play. I hope it’s a substantial part.

    Here he is as the wife of the ever creepy Papa Lazarou. DAVE!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2F4ZWTjwTU

  48. Josh
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    WiC, you need to sit down and watch Sherlock. Immediately.

  49. Samuel
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    I could also possibly see him as the kindly old man in Braavos (of course he’d probably need some make up)

  50. DocFilth
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    If he *is* Mace, then just imagine him as Hillary Briss in The League of Gentlemen. False fat layer and all.

    Plus, he’s good mates with Diana Rigg…

  51. Alex Dubrovsky
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Zack:
    B Cogman,

    EVERYBODY needs to watch Sherlock.

    I’m currently on my 3rd watch of the series since discovering it in the window between seasons 1 and 2. It’s really addictive, some of the best TV on right now.

    QFT. Sherlock is a phenomenal show.

  52. Ser Bob
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    Mark Gatiss starring as Joan Crawford is the funniest thing I have watched in years…

  53. Karazax
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Sherlock is amazing, and I agree that Randyl Tarly is another possibility if not Mace.

  54. DaveB
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    I’d say we don’t know the role yet because maybe they’re staging a big reveal at Comicon? I had heard that wasn’t the case this year, but you never know. Probably a smaller one with some characters….not as massive as last year’s. It really does line up, Comicon and the start of filming.

    Selmy – I always pictured Robert Carlyle as the older Tarly, for some reason. Conventional wisdom says he’s not right for the part, but I always come back to what a psycho he was in Trainspotting. Not that Randyll is that kind of guy, but he had a cruelty to him that stuck with me. I’d also imagine Tarly being a gaunt man…the kind of guy who only eats because it keeps him alive.

  55. moophasa
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Given that he’s an accomplished actor it must be an important role, so probably Mace Tyrell. I imagine Randyll Tarly will be a stockier actor, given that we’ve seen Sam… The Nights Watch officers will probably be played as bit parts, if they get cast at all – we already have Aemon, Alliser Thorne and Slynt, so I doubt they want to complicate Jon’s storyline with too many faces, at least not until he gets stabbed.

  56. mariamb18
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Don’t know him. Guess that’s because I also don’t watch Sherlock. Judging by the comments here, maybe I should. I’m thrilled by the enthusiastic responses to this casting announcement.

    Gatiss doesn’t scream Mace Tyrell to me, with or without the 50 extra pounds he would need to fit the book description.

    We will need more men of the Night’s Watch next season so yes to Donal Noye or Denys Mallister. He doesn’t strike me as a Greyjoy – not menacing enough, at least from that photo.

  57. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Popping in from vacation just to say:
    Asdfgjkasfghjkkdssazvbb MARK GATISS!
    I love this dude. Whoever he’s playing, I’m excited for. If he’s Mace, I don’t care he’s skinny.
    Ok back to the beach!

  58. Pepi
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    My bet’s also on Mace Tyrell. He could pass as a thiner version of Brendan Gleeson (who was (or still is) a popular option among the fans) under a certain angle. :D

  59. Darkstar
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    Selmy,

    Perfect choice! I can picture him smacking Sam around and berating him for not being manly enough. Kinda feels like typecasting, though…

  60. Kissed by Glasgow
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Ser Bob,

    Superb!! :-)

  61. Sean C.
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    The Kindly Man or Bloodraven would make a lot more sense to me than Mace Tyrell, both in terms of physical type and the sort of roles I’m used to seeing him in.

  62. Andrew
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    I can absolutely see him as Diana Rigg’s son and Natalie Dormer’s father. The only thing that gives me pause on him being Mace is that Gatiss simply OOZES sly, urbane intelligence. Mace is quite a dolt in the books, but I would absolutely be okay if they made him just as much of a schemer as the other Tyrell women.

  63. mariamb18
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    Andrew:
    I can absolutely see him as Diana Rigg’s son and Natalie Dormer’s father.The only thing that gives me pause on him being Mace is that Gatiss simply OOZES sly, urbane intelligence. Mace is quite a dolt in the books, but I would absolutely be okay if they made him just as much of a schemer as the other Tyrell women.

    I would love to see TV Mace be less of a dolt and more of a schemer. Book purists would object, I’m sure, but it would be a much better use of the character.

  64. H. Stark
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    I would say he is playing someone from Team Dragonstone or Team Meereen.

  65. Carne
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Just based on other roles I’ve seen Gatiss in I’m guessing Mace.

    Here’s him with a beard: http://i.imgur.com/VtiKA9U.jpg

    Sure, he’s not fat, but is that really important?

  66. Sean C.
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    mariamb18: I would love to see TV Mace be less of a dolt and more of a schemer. Book purists would object, I’m sure, but it would be a much better use of the character.

    That doesn’t really jibe with what we’ve been told about TV!Mace though, unless the gag was that Olenna was convinced he was an idiot and he wasn’t.

  67. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Andrew,

    Well lady Olenna has already told us of her opinions of her son.
    “A ponderous fool.”

  68. Eddard Stark II
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman,

    Congrats on your two episodes!

  69. Lady of Highgarden
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    If he’s Mace, I hope they make him crippled. The show lost Willas, so it would be nice if they used Mace to create some tension between the Tyrells and Oberyn.

  70. BrostavoFring
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Very surprised about this! Was definitely not expecting to see Gatiss this season, especially as he’s usually ridiculously busy. While I personally find him a little bit hammy (but then again, it fits for DW and League of Gentleman), he’s a great actor who will fit in well in the right role. Hell, we might even see him writing an episode!

    I would also recommend any film fan to check out the ‘History of Horror’ documentary series he did for BBC 4.

  71. Coltaine777
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Absolutely fantastic addition…he is wonderful in Sherlock…

  72. Belmorn
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    my money is on damphair

  73. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    DaveB:
    I’d say we don’t know the role yet because maybe they’re staging a big reveal at Comicon?I had heard that wasn’t the case this year, but you never know.Probably a smaller one with some characters….not as massive as last year’s. It really does line up, Comicon and the start of filming.

    Selmy – I always pictured Robert Carlyle as the older Tarly, for some reason. Conventional wisdom says he’s not right for the part, but I always come back to what a psycho he was in Trainspotting.Not that Randyll is that kind of guy, but he had a cruelty to him that stuck with me.I’d also imagine Tarly being a gaunt man…the kind of guy who only eats because it keeps him alive.

    There are 2 points to make here:

    –Where did you hear they weren’t doing that big video reveal? I’ve only heard people guess they won’t just “because” there weren’t as many characters this year. But you could arguably end up with Mace Tyrell, Donal Noye, Bowen Marsh (they’d recast it), Denys Mallister, the Waif, The Kindly Man, Oberyn, Ellaria, a couple other sand snakes, Bloodraven, the Greyjoy brothers, Coldhands. It’s a big group.

    –The Robert Carlyle of “Trainspotting” could easily play Randyll Tarly. The one from almost all other movies he’s made (yes, including the James Bond pic) could probably not.

    Either way, this is a good choice, a good actor, and I think if we’re looking for someone to embody the unctuousness of Mace Tyrell, he’d probably be right on.

  74. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Carne: Sure, he’s not fat, but is that really important?

    There are only 2 characters whose girth are truly important – Samwell Tarly and Wyman Manderly. Mace Tyrell? Not so much. More important that he can fairly portray being “The Lord Oaf of Highgarden.”

  75. HyacinthGirl
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    He’s good in dramatic roles, but also with comedy, which would make him a great choice for Mace, with all the oafish and puffer-fish-ness. I like this casting.

  76. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Oberyn has already been revealed

  77. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    I’m betting its Mace Tyrell or Tarly.

    What about Axell Florent folks? Or a thin Wyman Manderley?

  78. figsandfirepeppers
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    He would be a superb Doran Martell.

  79. Katie
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    What a great addition to the cast! He’d be pretty good in any role, honestly – he’s funny, but he has a solid enough screen presence that I think he’d also work well in a more serious or weighty role.

    Casting time is so much fun.

  80. Throner
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    I think it is a smart move not to have Mace cast as a fat character. Later on when Manderly is cast it is important for non readers to think of Manderly as “the fat guy” as he comes across as a minor character at first but will likely become a huge player. If non-readers come to recognize Manderly as the fat guy it will be less confusing when he makes a power play.

  81. Isabelle
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    Mycroft Holmes is in Thrones. MYCROFT FREAKING HOLMES!!!!!! And I thought this show couldn’t get any cooler.

    So excited to see how he does!!!

  82. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Well, seeing as I always picture a very slow moving person whenever I hear his name, I’d have to go with Doran for my guess. He’s capable of having this ponderous way about him that I can see people feeling is too passive. Just based off of what I’ve seen of his work in Sherlock. He can pull off that air of seeming harmless and weak while actually concealing intelligence, patience, and power. That’s how I always pictured that character, so I’m hoping it’s him.

  83. Mescalinic
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    HOLY CRAP!
    i love Gatiss. yeah, he could be Mace..a slim, incredibly funny Mace. but it almost seems a waste of talent. i know it’s almost impossible, but with a beard and an eyepatch, he could be an amazing crazy Euron! *_*

  84. Cary Storm
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Selmy:
    Andrew,

    Well lady Olenna has already told us of her opinions of her son.
    “A ponderous fool.”

    Yeah, it’s probably a preconceived notion I have about Mace, but Gatiss most certainly doesn’t seem “ponderous”

  85. The White Raven
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Everyone should watch Sherlock! Game of Thrones is my favourite show of all time. Sherlock is near equal on my list. I’m almost 100% sure you guys will love it too.

    Shywalker: I just saw someone on the facebook post suggest Doran Martell as another possibility.

    Depending on how much Dorne they’re planning to introduce, I suppose that could be a possibility as well.

    I see him as Doran Martell more than Mace too, but it doesn’t seem very likely that he appears so soon… Or is it?

  86. Cary Storm
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    My money is on Coldhands (why not put the spoiler tag here? Because as a character it’s been “spoiled” time and time again, including this thread, and unless you know who “Coldhands” is it’s meaningless.)

  87. Lord Stonefield
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    Funny thing, I always thought Paxter Redwyne, the Lord of Arbor to look just like this actor when I read the books. But the odds are that the character will not be cast for this season, if ever.

  88. Anonymous Edd
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    I think we need to learn what other roles are being filled this season before this casting will make sense.

  89. Moët
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    B Cogman:
    Winter, you need to watch SHERLOCK!

    zomfg – THIS x ∞³ !!!

  90. azad injejikian
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Lady of Highgarden,

    Not a bad idea! I think that would work well.

  91. Cary Storm
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Lady of Highgarden:
    If he’s Mace, I hope they make him crippled. The show lost Willas, so it would be nice if they used Mace to create some tension between the Tyrells and Oberyn.

    Won’t a crippled Mace be confused with a crippled Doran Martell?

  92. Nick Larter
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    I’m astounded that Gatiss is tagged as a Sherlock actor or Who star and not for his role in TLoG. Just Google ‘Hilary Briss’ and stick the images on. Hilary Briss in GoT – magic!

    In terms of which character I’d guess someone made up, changed or composite a la Talisa or Locke – that’s normally when they switch on the secrecy…

    And yes, if they now cast Pemberton and Shearsmith as someone above suggested, it would be brilliant = Shearsmith would make a great Septon Sparrow!

  93. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Selmy,

    I know. But you can still include him in a video of the “new cast.”

  94. New Wolf
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    He’s really amazing in Sherlock so I’m happy with this news. I can see him playing Mace or even someone from the Iron Islands.

  95. Nezzer
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    He doesn’t need to be crippled like Doran, just give him a crutch and a limp. That’s how Willas is said to walk IIRC.

  96. shadowassassinbabby
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    let us not forget his impeccable turn as a mr. smith knock-off in the Matrix-style episode of Spaced.

  97. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Today I learned two important facts.

    1.) Sherlock actor Mark Gatiss has been cast in Game of Thrones.
    2.) Winter needs to watch Sherlock.

  98. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Gatiss is an excellent writer (of both scripts and novels), actor and comedian. He’s also the writer of the DOCTOR WHO docu-drama airing in November to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the show, a docu-drama starring David ‘Walder Frey’ Bradley as William Hartnell (the First Doctor).

    Possibilities:

    Mace Tyrell
    We know Mace is being cast, and it’s a high-profile-ish role for a high-profile-ish actor like Gatiss. Mace is fat, sure, but it’s not integeral to the character in the same way it was for Robert. Gatiss is only 15 years older than Natalie Dormer, but in Westeros that’s not an unreasonable age gap and Margaery is probably meant to be at least a few years younger than Dormer actually is, so that’s not an issue.

    The biggest strike is that whilst Mace has a bigger role in later books, he’s still not really a major character or a major player. Either he is destined to become so, or his role from the books will be expanded.

    Randyll Tarly
    I think we’ll see Randyll Tarly at some point – they made a big play about his name in Season 3, which might the production team laying pipe ahead of time for a new character/location like they’ve done many times before – but he’ll only be in Season 4 if they’re bringing up Brienne’s AFFC storyline. Can Gatiss look like a grizzled battlefield commander? Randyll’s not known for fighting himself (though he does have a badass Valyrian steel sword) so his physique may not be a problem, but he definitely needs to look like he knows his way around a battlefield. I must admit I was also hoping for Michael Hogan in this role.

    Bowen Marsh or another Night’s Watch officer
    Yes, we have a Bowen Marsh, played by Brian Fortune who did well with a couple of small scenes in Season 1. However, his role was officially ‘Night’s Watch Officer’ (he was told informally it could be expanded to Bowen Marsh later on, but not confirmed). Just as they brought in a new Rickard Karstark and relegated the old one (Stephen Boucher in Season 1 with his one line of dialogue) to an unknown background character, they could do the same thing here, and even bring backFortune as another Night’s Watch officer.

    On the other hand, he could be playing someone like Cotter Pyke or Denys Mallister in an expanded role, perhaps with a larger role to play in later seasons?

    Coldhands or Bloodraven
    I actually think he’d be really good in either role, and both would have the advantage of being fairly brief roles per season, allowing him time for his numerous other commitments.

    The Master of Black and White
    Aka the ‘kindly’ old man who instructs Arya in the ways of Faceless Manness. I’m not sure if we’re going to get this far, but I think he’d be really good in this role.

    Aeron Greyjoy
    I like this idea, but I don’t think we’re going to get him until Season 5, if at all.

  99. JP Dayne
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    holy shit I hope to rhllor this guy isn’t our mace

    actor is too gaunt. he’d make a good brynden rivers tho… also, the night’s watch will be in need of inflation of characters, so maybe one of the leaders, or our beloved Donal Noye!

  100. DaveB
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Where did you hear they weren’t doing that big video reveal?

    I don’t remember exactly where I heard/read this, but I distinctly remember something about them not doing something at this year’s Comicon. THOUGH, I could have misheard and they meant it wasn’t going to be AS big a reveal. Maybe one or two characters to start with. Yeah, it’s a fairly large group we’re adding this year for sure.

    GreatJon of Slumber: The Robert Carlyle of “Trainspotting” could easily play Randyll Tarly. The one from almost all other movies he’s made (yes, including the James Bond pic) could probably not.

    I usually don’t jump on the Fairly-Well-Known-Actor-As-This-Character bandwagon. The ridiculous ones (ie, and I’m making this up, but if someone was like “Will Smith for Jalabar Xho”) are my pet peeve. Carlyle is fairly unavailable, though Randyll Tarly is almost a 2-3 episode cameo over the next 2 seasons. Do I think they go after him? Nah. Do I want him desperately for the part? Carlyle or bust? Nah, not really. I just think he has good range (he played Hitler!) and he always came to mind when I was reading.

  101. Cary Storm
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer:
    Cary Storm,

    He doesn’t need to be crippled like Doran, just give him a crutch and a limp. That’s how Willas is said to walk IIRC.

    I haven’t found any convincing rationale that explains how compelling it is to depict a character that doesn’t actually appear except in reference in the books (Willas Tyrell) by merging his attributes into one that does, rather extensively.

  102. Gendria
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    In an ideal world, this would be a prerequisite move before casting Benedict Cumberbatch as Young Griff and Martin Freeman as Old Griff. Does that even work?

  103. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter:
    I’m astounded that Gatiss is tagged as a Sherlock actor or Who star and not for his role in TLoG.Just Google ‘Hilary Briss’ and stick the images on.Hilary Briss in GoT – magic!

    In terms of which character I’d guess someone made up, changed or composite a la Talisa or Locke – that’s normally when they switch on the secrecy…

    And yes, if they now cast Pemberton and Shearsmith as someone above suggested, it would be brilliant = Shearsmith would make a great Septon Sparrow!

    To be fair, THE LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN – though brilliant (well, Season 1 was; Season 2 was variable, Season 3 was awful but the Christmas special was genius) – is fairly obscure these days, and especially to a non-English audience.

    What would have been cool is if the League had all been cast as the Bloody Mummers :-)

  104. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Gendria:
    In an ideal world, this would be a prerequisite move before casting Benedict Cumberbatch as Young Griff and Martin Freeman as Old Griff. Does that even work?

    Heavens, it works for me!

  105. Cary Storm
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Gendria:
    In an ideal world, this would be a prerequisite move before casting Benedict Cumberbatch as Young Griff …. Does that even work?

    No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. No. NO.

  106. LordStarkington
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Since someone on another topic claimed Emilia wants more money, Mark has to be our next Dany.

    It’s just a joke

  107. Charles
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    I hope that they get Brendan Gleeson to play Lord Manderly. If Gatiss is playing Mace Tyrell, the showrunners must be doing more with the character than the books did. Mace doesn’t really stand out in the books, but this actor is fairly high profile. Perhaps he plays Bowen Marsh or the Kindly Man? Bloodraven I can see, too. Another possibility, although probably too soon, is the Shavepate.

  108. mariamb
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Sean C.: That doesn’t really jibe with what we’ve been told about TV!Mace though, unless the gag was that Olenna was convinced he was an idiot and he wasn’t.

    True, it doesn’t jibe with Olenna’s comment about Mace. I would just prefer that TV Mace was a little less of an idiot than he is in the books.

    Anonymous Edd:
    I think we need to learn what other roles are being filled this season before this casting will make sense.

    Exactly. Fun to speculate but difficult without more info.

  109. sunspear
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Eh, I’ve always thought Sherlock is overrated, but Gatiss is pretty good in it.

    My first thought on seeing him was Euron, but Mace makes sense too.

  110. Caelra
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    I was having a really bad day but this cheered me up quite a bit! Love Mark Gatiss! Complete faith in Nina and the writers that he will be cast perfectly and get some really good stuff to work with!

  111. Isabelle
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Looks like Mark might be reading or filming soon–he tweeted that he was in Belfast last week.

    https://twitter.com/Markgatiss/status/354906077780910082

  112. Nezzer
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm: I haven’t found any convincing rationale that explains how compelling it is to depict a character that doesn’t actually appear except in reference in the books (Willas Tyrell) by merging his attributes into one that does, rather extensively.

    Well, it would make Mace more unique and it would give a reason for a feud between the Tyrells and Martells.

    Adam Whitehead:
    Gatiss is an excellent writer (of both scripts and novels), actor and comedian. He’s also the writer of the DOCTOR WHO docu-drama airing in November to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the show, a docu-drama starring David ‘Walder Frey’ Bradley as William Hartnell (the First Doctor).

    Possibilities:

    Mace Tyrell
    Gatiss is only 15 years older than Natalie Dormer, but in Westeros that’s not an unreasonable age gap and Margaery is probably meant to be at least a few years younger than Dormer actually is, so that’s not an issue.

    I don’t that’s a problem. Although Natalie Dormer is 31 years old, her character is probably in her early twenties. 46 is old enough to have a 22/23 year old daughter even in modern standards.

  113. Balerion
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    I know he plays not any of these roles, but i like to know which brutal actors they will cast for Euron and Victarion.

  114. Michelle
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Well, Mycroft Holmes (who Mark plays on Sherlock) is supposed to be fat too. They just make dieting jokes to explain it. So based on THAT I have zero problems with Mark playing Mace Tyrell. I could totally see Natalie and Finn as his kids. :)

  115. Robbet
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    That’s exciting news! I know Mark Gatiss’ work in Sherlock and in Doctor Who and he really is a great actor (and the Doctor Who episodes he wrote are fantastic), so I am sure he is a wonderful adittion to the cast.

  116. Jared
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    No matter who he ends up playing, Mark Gatiss will be a strong addition to the cast. He’s truly excellent on Sherlock as Mycroft Holmes (and yes, Winter does need to watch Sherlock when time permits).

    If Gatiss does end up playing Mace Tyrell, his physique should not be an issue. As far as I’m concerned, Mace’s bulk is a non-essential characteristic. It may be a feature of the character as written, but it’s hardly something that will irrevocably change the character if it’s altered. Wyman Manderly’s fatness, Tyrion’s dwarf status, Ygritte’s red hair, Brienne’s height – those are all features that directly influence their character and how they are perceived by others in the world. More important is that the actor who plays Mace can convincingly portray a man who is simultaneously one of the most powerful men in the Seven Kingdoms and yet remains, as Olenna calls him “a ponderous oaf”. Gatiss can certainly do that, if required.

    Another intriguing possibility I’ve heard being floated around is that Gatiss could be playing the septon who eventually becomes the High Sparrow. I didn’t think that we’d see him until Season 5 at the earliest, but that would be an intriguing choice as well. Hopefully will find out at Comic-Con, and if not then, soon.

  117. Bryon
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Lem Lemoncloak… just kididng

    Crow’s eye is my guess. Not a huge fan of where the Greyjoy story arc was going at the end of the season.

    I don’t see him as a Martell nor Mace IMO.

  118. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Balerion:
    I know he plays not any of these roles, but i like to know which brutal actors they will cast for Euron and Victarion.

    I don’t think we’ll see them until Season 5. And I wouldn’t mind seeing David O’Hara (from THE TUDORS and now LUTHER) in one of the two roles (though I think he’d be a more sinister Euron).

  119. Jen@House Stark
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Yes, please have him be Donal Noye or Cold Hands, FTW

  120. jarnomiedema
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    As for Randyl Tarly….

    http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk4Mzg4NTc2OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTM1MDUwOA@@._V1._SX640_SY853_.jpg

    THAT would be really cool.. Too bad they tend not to cast Americans (other than Peter Dinklage) on this show, because anyone other than this guy is bound to be a little dissapointing..

    As for Gatiss’ casting, first off: yay! Secondly, I think he’ll play one of the more prominent Freys, because he has that perfect weasely look and can play conniving, arrogant characters really, really well.

    I for one am very excited to see what they have in store for him!

  121. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead,

    O’Hara does pay the sinister and scary … and a little bit crazy roles well. I can see it!

  122. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Charles:
    I hope that they get Brendan Gleeson to play Lord Manderly.If Gatiss is playing Mace Tyrell, the showrunners must be doing more with the character than the books did.Mace doesn’t really stand out in the books, but this actor is fairly high profile.Perhaps he plays Bowen Marsh or the Kindly Man?Bloodraven I can see, too.Another possibility, although probably too soon, is the Shavepate.

    This guy may be a lot of things, but the Shavepate he ain’t.

    Mace Tyrell isn’t quite heard from so frequently, but he’s present in every sense through most of the next two books. So expanding his character is a pretty fair possibility.

  123. the other guy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    He may very well be Mace.

    I can’t wait to see who’s cast if/when they introduce randyll Tarly. My top choice would be Simon Merrells, he was amazing in the last season of Spartacus as Marcus Crassus.

  124. Antmanx68
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Id like to see him as the Kindly Man.

  125. Arkash
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Screming ! Absolute hysteric fan !

    GNAAAAAAAH !!!!!

    GAME OF THRONES / DOCTOR WHO / SHERLOCK…. COMBO BREAKER !!!!!

  126. Tessa_Leonie
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Yeah! Love him, makes a perfect slimy southerner.

  127. moophasa
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I really can’t see him as Doran. It seems that they are going for a Hispanic/Mediterranean European look for the Martells based on Pedro Pascal, and despite what some fans have been saying that it what GRRM had imagined.

  128. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    the other guy,

    Simon Merrells is amazing. I think he would have made a brilliant Roose (although I love the actor that plays him).
    He has the pale eyes.

  129. Phil
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    He’s good writing and acting in Sherlock, but I haven’t like the episodes of Doctor Who he’s written.

    I don’t think he’s Mace though. Maybe it’s like Burn Gorman last season where he doesn’t have a large role, probably Denys Mallister, Cotter Pyke, Donal, or the Magnar. I could see him as any of these characters.

  130. Andrew
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    I think it says something about Gatiss’s skills that I could easily see him as a great Mace, Bloodraven, Kindly Man, OR High Sparrow. Whoever he ends up playing, this is genius casting. Very, very excited.

  131. DocFilth
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Actually, I could see Steve Pemberton as Wyman Manderly and Reece Shearsmith as Randyll Tarly (watch him as the boss of the debt collection agency in LoG series 3 and you’ll see what I mean), although Peter Capaldi is still my number one choice for Randyll.

  132. Bethany
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    When I saw this my first thought was “the Kindly Man!” but the more I think about it the more I kind of hope he’s the future High Sparrow. Not a huge roll this season probably, but it gets exponentially bigger as time goes on, with no end in sight. Plus, with this being probably the final season for Tywin, we need some other snooty dude who can scowl aloof-ly at Cercei. :-P

    Of course if he is Mace, I’m sure it will work beautifully. I have yet to have a casting issue with GoT (knock on weirwood).

  133. Isabelle
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    Balerion:
    I know he plays not any of these roles, but i like to know which brutal actors they will cast for Euron and Victarion.

    My dream casting would be Mads Mikkelsen, but he’s got Hannibal now as well as his film career, so it’s a long shot. But it would be amazing. I know others have floated his name before, so let’s hope he learns about the roles and has some space in his schedule!

  134. WompWomp
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    My best guess is Mace Tyrell. My dearest hope is an elaborated adaptation of Randyll Tarly.

  135. Nezzer
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    the other guy:
    He may very well be Mace.

    I can’t wait to see who’s cast if/when they introduce randyll Tarly. My top choice would be Simon Merrells, he was amazing in the last season of Spartacus as Marcus Crassus.

    No, leave Simon Merrells for Euron. He’s my favorite choice for Euron.

  136. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle:
    Looks like Mark might be reading or filming soon–he tweeted that he was in Belfast last week.

    https://twitter.com/Markgatiss/status/354906077780910082

    He tweeted a few hours ago that he was en route to California.

    SDCC? :D

  137. Traveling Targaryen
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    [insert Azula from Avatar: the Last Airbender voice] NO WAY!! I love Gatiss! Love his work on Doctor Who and Sherlock. If he is Mace, I’m sure he’ll be great! Can’t wait to see tumblr’s reaction to this!

  138. sunspear
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle,

    I can’t see Mads being Euron. He’s a good actor, but the people he plays are too high class and calm for a rapist magic pirate.

  139. Yago
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Love him. He’s great.

  140. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    moophasa:
    I really can’t see him as Doran. It seems that they are going for a Hispanic/Mediterranean European look for the Martells based on Pedro Pascal, and despite what some fans have been saying that it what GRRM had imagined.

    That means next to nothing as far as Doran is concerned. The rest of the Dornish? Sure. But Doran just has to look like he could be related to Oberyn after a little makeup/wig work. I definitely think he could pass as a relative of him with a bit of work.

  141. Troublesome Birdsong
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    I knew there was a reason I kept checking for casting news a couple of times a day.
    This is pure awesomeness.

  142. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Mads Mikkelsen would be a dream (see him as One-Eye from Valhalla Rising), but he has Hannibal right now, and a few movies.

    I would be happy with Simon Merrells, for sure. A great actor with eyes like ice shards, a stentorian voice and delivery, and very physical (see: Spartacus).

  143. Lord of Fangs
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see Mace. I always saw Mace as a John Goodman lookalike to be honest…

  144. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Bethany,

    I really like that idea of Gattis as the High Sparrow!
    He has a similar look to many of the actors I pictured in the role like Adrian Dunbar, Michael Gould, Peter Capaldi etc…

  145. Nezzer
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh: He tweeted a few hours ago that he was en route to California.

    SDCC? :D

    I heard the Sherlock cast will be there, but he might be there for GoT as well.

  146. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh: He tweeted a few hours ago that he was en route to California.

    SDCC? :D

    He’s going to be on the Sherlock panel, moderated by none-other-than James Hibberd. Hopefully Hibberd can find out what role he is playing then!

  147. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    This guy is so obviously Mace. He looks exactly how I pictured Mace to look, even though he isn’t fat. Just google image search this actor. Tell me he doesn’t look like ‘The Lord Oaf Of Highgarden’.

  148. Troublesome Birdsong
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    I agree he would make a good High Septon, but if so, they’d be bringing the character in pretty early. I wouldn’t have expected him until Season 6.

  149. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere,

    LOL. Sorry. This guy and Pedro Pascal are as far away from similar as possible.

  150. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Too young. And the role would be a waste of this guy’s seemingly comedic talent. I’m 90% convinced he’s Mace.

  151. Macha
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    I don’t care who Mark Gatiss is going to play. I CANNOT DEAL WITH THIS CASTING. Too awesome for words.

  152. Cary Storm
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    haltwhogoesthere,

    LOL. Sorry. This guy and Pedro Pascal are as far away from similar as possible.

    Here here! Why go out of the typical “Northern European” look spectrum and cast Pascal as Oberyn and then turn around and cast someone who is clearly Northern European for Doran. Makes no sense whatsoever.

  153. Michelle Yvette Peeples
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    This is awesome news. I adore Mark Gatiss. Just wonderful.

  154. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    Troublesome Birdsong,

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Agreed on both counts, but it’s the only part that jumps out to me when looking at him….

    Many roles can be cast younger (or older) or thinner easily enough so I try not to rule out an actor just because they do not fit the book description perfectly… Even f I always imagine the book descriptions.

  155. Greg
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    I REALLY hope it’s not Doran. He’s far too white. I doubt it is Doran though, he looks too young. I could maybe see him as Mace. I was hoping for Jim Broadbent as Mace, but he might be too old to be Diana Rigg’s son. Then again, Iain Glen is only 13 years younger than James Cosmo.

    If he’s Coldhands, and that’s why they haven’t announced his role yet… I could get on board with that.

  156. Jospeh
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    Excellent casting news, loved the idea of Gatiss for a role on the show for a while. Can see him playing a few different roles so this is all very exciting.

    He can pull off bumbling and comedic (think Mickey in League of Gentlemen but not as extreme), imperious and commanding (Mycroft in Sherlock) and he’s easily got some of the craziness going for him (Hilary Briss, League of Gentlemen)

    Would be thrilled to see him announced as Mace, Randyll or Euron. And potentially great in plenty of other roles to boot!

    And gonna join those urging Winter to watch Sherlock too, a definite must watch.

  157. 3eyes
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    This is so utterly geekgasmic, I’m beside myself! Don’t care what role he plays, and am skipping over the comments to avoid finding out ahead of time. Our Nina has done it again.

  158. tormundsmember
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    My money is on Denys Mallister. His manner would make the most sense in that role.

  159. MAC
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Syrio:
    No way is this Mace. I’m going to guess someone on the wall.Denys Mallister? Cotter Pyke or Bowen Marsh.

    I don’t know if you’ll be right, but he would be a great Bowen Marsh.

  160. Lex
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Cool news, he’s great in Sherlock.

    Funnily enough, in Sherlock his voice always reminded me of Conleth Hill’s Varys.

  161. Yago
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    tormundsmember,

    Dafuq? Denys Mallister barely appears in the novels. He’ll get cut.

  162. Jospeh
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Hell, we haven’t seen any fools yet. Shagwell anyone?

  163. Isabelle
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh: He tweeted a few hours ago that he was en route to California.

    SDCC? :D

    Good spotting! Darn it, I should have been paying closer attention! Ah well–perhaps he was in Belfast to finalise the details of his casting?

    We’ll have to keep a close eye on his Twitter–if they don’t announce who he’ll play at Comic Con and he says later that he’s bound for Croatia, we’ll know he’s not playing a northerner!

    sunspear:

    I can’t see Mads being Euron. He’s a good actor, but the people he plays are too high class and calm for a rapist magic pirate.

    I think he’d do just fine. His first role was a low-level drug dealer, miles away from Hannibal Lecter! Euron’s also a lot more than a simple pirate thug…whoever plays him has to be oozing with charm and charisma, and Mads has that in bucketloads.

  164. Bard
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Jospeh: Hell, we haven’t seen any fools yet. Shagwell anyone?


    The bloody mummers have been cut, I don’t think we’ll see Shagwell on the show.

  165. jentario
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Rechido:
    Isn’t Mace fat in the books?

    Fat in the books and fat in the show, as mentioned multiple times by the Queen of Thorns. I don’t think this is mace. Maybe it’s Styr the Magnar of Thenn or a Greyjoy (I can see him as Euron) or even someone at the Wall (Bowen Marsh, Donal Noye, Cottor Pyke or the other one involved in the LC votes maybe). But I guess they can fatten him up with the right costume, so who the hell knows.

  166. Red Viperette
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Whatever role he is playing, he’ll be brilliant !
    Check him out in the League of Gentlemen….superb !

  167. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    haltwhogoesthere,

    LOL. Sorry. This guy and Pedro Pascal are as far away from similar as possible.

    1: You are condescending and there is no need for it.
    2: No they aren’t. And I said with a bit of work anyway.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ttNqpueD-U Mark Gatiss as some random guy in doctor who
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=narlXIX8xCE Ciaran Hinds as Aberforth Dumbledore
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6g-NTG_YOk Mark Addy as Mark Addy

    With the things possible with good makeup and other effects, you really mean to tell me that Pedro Pascal and Mark Gatiss can’t be made to look like they could be related? Really?

  168. Bard
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Hizdahr maybe?

  169. EliaOfDorne
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    omg I love the league of gentlemen !

  170. Isabelle
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming: He’s going to be on the Sherlock panel, moderated by none-other-than James Hibberd. Hopefully Hibberd can find out what role he is playing then!

    Maybe that was part of Hibberd’s deal with HBO for the exclusive–

    “Fancy telling me who you’re playing?”

    “Ask me at Comic-Con–it’ll drive the hoards of Thrones fans to our panel!”

    Everyone wins!

  171. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    jentario,

    When does Olenna call him fat?
    She calls him a ponderous oaf. That’s it.

  172. Matt
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    aeron greyjoy?

  173. Cary Storm
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Since we’re mentioning people who were cut from Season 3. Maybe not Coldhands. Maybe he’s going to be Patchface after all.

  174. Kit
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    AHHH YES! MARK!

    He is EXCELLENT as Mycroft and a solid writer/showrunner in his own right (people argue about his DW episodes, but I really like his Sherlock=penned episodes–”The Great Game” and “The Hounds of Baskerville” for those who have seen it, plus he basically runs the day-to-day production of SHERLOCK on set.)

    Very excited for this.

  175. Jospeh
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Bard,

    Shame that. The fools of Westeros really have had a rotten deal

  176. Lex
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    I’ll also add my voice to those praising Sherlock. Definitely one of the very best shows on TV. The episodes are 90 minutes, and feel more like movies. And it’s ten times better than the Robert Downey Jr. Hollywood films. Anyone who hasn’t watched Sherlock yet is missing out.

  177. Zack
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    jentario,

    When does Olenna call him fat?
    She calls him a ponderous oaf. That’s it.

    And I’ve thought worse of family members during times of disagreement. Doesn’t mean I’d always think that. Book Mace is dreadfully dull and I’d rather they give the character some wit and spark and Gatiss would have wonderful scenes with all three of the other Tyrells I imagine.

  178. Kit
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Also, interestingly, Sherlock is about to go into production for another 4 weeks to film the third episode of the 3rd season (they’re on hiatus from filming right now for Martin Freeman to finish pickups for the Hobbit, after filming episodes 1 and 2 in April and May)–that will take up all of August, and Mark as producer is there every day overseeing things.

    So he likely won’t be filming until Sherlock moves on into post, until September or later, unless he filmed something quick in the past couple weeks. Not sure if that limits the roles he could be or storylines he could be in or what, but it’s worth a mention.

  179. jentario
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    I’m betting its Mace Tyrell or Tarly.

    What about Axell Florent folks? Or a thin Wyman Manderley?

    I always imagined GRRM as Wyman Manderly… lol?

  180. jentario
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    jentario,

    When does Olenna call him fat?
    She calls him a ponderous oaf. That’s it.

    Maybe it’s all mixing up with the books? I seem to remember a scene that she said something like that… I could be wrong. I’ll check.

  181. Magic Loogie
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Faz,

    I know Gatiss from Spaced, Doctor Who and Sherlock … and I’m an American (and a major John Simm fan).

  182. zambi76
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    Olenna calls Mace a fathead once on the show, but that’s just a synonym for idiot/oaf if my dictionary teaches me right. (ESL)

    Even in the books the only person who can’t stop to call Mace fat is Oberyn Martell. Not exactly his best friend. All other’s are more like “dude used to be hot but let himself go” so I have no clue where the idea of a near Manderly-level-fat Mace comes from ? Oh, right. Fanart.

  183. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere,

    I apologize if I came off as condescending. I didn’t mean to do so. I just think it is ridiculous to suggest they’d cast a red haired Irish looking dude just to apply a ton of makeup and hair dye/wig so that he looks like the Latino Pedro Pascal.

  184. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    If he’s Mace I’ll be very happy indeed :-)

  185. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Kit:
    Also, interestingly, Sherlock is about to go into production for another 4 weeks to film the third episode of the 3rd season (they’re on hiatus from filming right now for Martin Freeman to finish pickups for the Hobbit, after filming episodes 1 and 2 in April and May)–that will take up all of August, and Mark as producer is there every day overseeing things.

    So he likely won’t be filming until Sherlock moves on into post, until September or later, unless he filmed something quick in the past couple weeks. Not sure if that limits the roles he could be or storylines he could be in or what, but it’s worth a mention.

    That’s interesting, because that matches up pretty nicely with when they said they’d be in Dubrovnik/Split (August 20-September 20 for Dubrovnik and September 20-October 10 for Split)

  186. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Troublesome Birdsong:
    Darquemode,

    I agree he would make a good High Septon, but if so, they’d be bringing the character in pretty early. I wouldn’t have expected him until Season 6.

    Really? I think that’s a long, long way off. I think we’ll see him, if not this year, then as a big part of Season 5.

  187. Arkash
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Randyl Tarly ?
    Mace Tyrell ?
    Coldhands ?
    The High Sparrow ?
    The Magnar of Thenn ?
    Bowen Marsh ?
    Denys Mallister ?
    Aeron “Damphair” Greyjoy ?
    Bloodraven ?
    The KIndly Man ?

  188. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Great news! I finally watched Sherlock a few months ago and wanted all the supporting cast in GoT. Does anybody think that Andrew Scott (Moriarty) would be a good Euron? He might be a little young but I think he would be great in the role.

    If Gatiss is Mace, I don’t think it’s a problem that he isn’t fat. Being kind of doofus is more important and it’s credible that he would be related to the other Tyrells. In show-canon the Targaryens don’t have purple eyes and Syrio isn’t bald, it hasn’t hurt anything.

    I could also see him as a mash up of Denys Mallister and Cotter Pyke. They don’t need to cast both.

    I always pictured Randyl Tarly as looking like a big beefy ex-football player who would run to fat if he doesn’t work to stay fit. As always, the performance is more important then looks but I still don’t see Gatiss in this role.

    Coldhands could be a possibly but he isn’t really an interesting well developed character. Mace isn’t interesting either, but there is potential for them to show interactions with the other Tyrells, Tywin and Cersei that could be comedy gold.

  189. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    zambi76,

    Exactly.
    According to Sansa in ACOK Chapter 65

    “Mace Tyrell, the Lord of Highgarden, a once-powerful man gone to fat, yet still handsome. “

    I always took him as a man that was strong in youth but has let himself go and now is “bulky”… Something like Angus Macfadyen who used to be somewhat trim and now is much less so…. Or Brendan Gleeson who is a big strong guy that is not exactly all muscle. That shape, but a lot of actors fit the bill of course.

  190. Cat of the Canals
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Hizdar zo Loraq?

  191. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Zack: And I’ve thought worse of family members during times of disagreement. Doesn’t mean I’d always think that. Book Mace is dreadfully dull and I’d rather they give the character some wit and spark and Gatiss would have wonderful scenes with all three of the other Tyrells I imagine.

    Yes, I think he would, the apologetic daughter and the smirking, disapproving mother. And we’ve seen such a great expansion of the Margaery character that I think Mace will do just as well with this kind of treatment. Fact is, as Warden of the South and Lord of Highgarden, and as the second-richest family in Westeros, he occupies quite a powerful position; and Cersei is rebuked when she publicly insults him when he suggests the notion of becoming Hand of the King. He accumulates quite a position of power in King’s Landing eventually as well. There’s a lot going on there, though he is a bumbler and fatuous.

  192. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    Sorry ancient name. Hizdar zo Loraq?

  193. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    haltwhogoesthere,

    I apologize if I came off as condescending. I didn’t mean to do so. I just think it is ridiculous to suggest they’d cast a red haired Irish looking dude just to apply a ton of makeup and hair dye/wig so that he looks like the Latino Pedro Pascal.

    I don’t think Pedro Pascal looks all that Latino (whatever that means. Not looking to start a huge debate =/). When I look at their mouths and cheeks and noses, to me, they look like they could be related. http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/herc/pascal1.jpg
    Do something to Gatiss’s hair, and it could be there. I’ve seen many siblings that look less alike than they would after that.

    But I also started kind of ignoring what characters look like, with sexyJorah and sexyTyrion and Ducksauce and Lysa. It’s very unreliable for guessing roles. I admit they don’t look much alike. My own reason for saying Doran has mostly to do with his portrayal of Mycroft.

  194. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger: I always pictured Randyl Tarly as looking like a big beefy ex-football player who would run to fat if he doesn’t work to stay fit. As always, the performance is more important then looks but I still don’t see Gatiss in this role.

    Coldhands could be a possibly but he isn’t really an interesting well developed character. Mace isn’t interesting either, but there is potential for them to show interactions with the other Tyrells, Tywin and Cersei that could be comedy gold.


    Here here. I tended to see Randyll Tarly as a brutish creep of a human. More like Tom Hardy or Jason Statham, though both of those too famous, probably, to play either of those parts.

    And Coldhands? I always saw him more or less as as a shroud.

  195. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Amoka’s artwork of Mace Tyrell, used for the Fantasy Flight games and approved by GRRM:

    http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/thumb/e/ef/Mace_Tyrell.jpg/250px-Mace_Tyrell.jpg

    The other official artwork out there also shows him as being fairly chunky, though not as fat as book-Robert.

    Arguably it’s not as essential to Mace’s character as it is to Robert’s. Robert is the great old warrior, the awesome fighter of his day, who has gone to seed. Mace’s schtick is that he never really had ‘it’ in the first place, just pretended he did whilst – somewhat shrewdly – placing much more formidable retainers around him, like Randyll Tarly as a general, Matthis Rowan as a diplomat and Paxter Redwyne as his admiral. None of that needs him to be fat as a visual cue to his character, whilst with Robert’s it’s more part of who he is psychologically as well as physically.

  196. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    I agree story arc wise the High Sparrow would be a season or two early probably.

    IF D&D do intend to shift events (an therefore characters) around in the story to create ‘better’ individual arcs for each season tough I guess he could be introduced earlier…

    He appears too young for a few roles, too thin for a role, not threatening or soldier-like for other roles. No one role as described in the book fits him perfectly to me, but the High Sparrow is no worse a fit than may of the others IMO.

  197. John G.
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Anyone suggesting Mark Gatiss to play Randyll Tarly, Donal Noye, Coldhands, the Shavepate, etc isn’t familiar with his work. Someone on this thread compared him to Brendan Gleeson. Have you seen a picture of Gatiss? Or heard him speak? Hard to imagine two more dissimilar people.

    Mark Gatiss will not be playing a battle-hardened, rough character. His style of acting is akin to Jim Broadbent or Stephen Fry. It’s overwhelmingly likely that he has been cast as Mace Tyrell; he will work very well as a softheaded counterpart to the domineering Diana Rigg. Another possibility might be Bowen Marsh or the Kindly Man.

  198. sunspear
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Does anybody think that Andrew Scott (Moriarty) would be a good Euron?

    NO. I hated insane, bipolar Moriarty in Sherlock, and I don’t want one of the best villains in ASOIAF turned into that.

  199. Starkfell91
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    I’m not thrilled with this guy being Mace or Pedro Pascal as The Red Viper.

  200. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    Thank god I am not the only one!
    I thought he was TERRRRIBLE as Moriarty.

    I also did not like him that much in Blackout or The Town.
    I just find his portrayals too odd, unbelievable.

  201. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    sunspear,

    IMO Euron is a complete nut job and somewhat over rated as a player of the game of thrones. Sending Victarion and the dragon horn to collect Dany will backfire for him.

  202. Grijnwaald
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Starkfell91:
    I’m not thrilled with this guy being Mace or Pedro Pascal as The Red Viper.

    Why? Are they too WHITE for you eh? EH?! Huh? Huh?

    Just kidding ;)

  203. Jentario
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Grijnwaald: Why? Are they too WHITE for you eh? EH?! Huh? Huh?

    Just kidding ;)

    Dude, aren’t you Unsullied? You shouldn’t read too deep into such threads, they are dark and full of spoilers.

  204. Grijnwaald
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Jentario: Dude, aren’t you Unsullied? You shouldn’t read too deep into such threads, they are dark and full of spoilers.

    Nah, that’s alright mate, I’m being as careful as I always am, I never read large chunks of text.

    Thanks anyway dude :)

  205. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Grijnwaald: Nah, that’s alright mate, I’m being as careful as I always am, I never read large chunks of text.

    Thanks anyway dude :)

    Trust me, the biggest spoilers can be summarized in one sentence if necessary.

  206. Thaddeus
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    He will be playing the role of Doran Martell. Everybody knows that!

  207. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 4:59 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    I thought he was one of the best things about Sherlock. You just can’t take your eyes off him when he’s on screen.

  208. Vaess
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    I know this is not a casting speculation thread, but we have had so many names flying in here that I thought I might add to it.
    I would love to see Philip Glenister as Randyll Tarly. An even nastier Gene Hunt would be perfect.

  209. Alysane Mormont
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    I adore him in Sherlock (which I encourage Winter and any other who haven’t seen it to watch, it is an excellent show) so I have faith that whichever character he plays, he’ll be fantastic. Since they haven’t announced straight out who he’s playing, I suspect they might be doing with his character what they did with Iwan Rheon being cast as Ramsay Snow last season; trying to keep it under wraps since revealing who he’s playing would be a spoiler. That makes me think he’s playing Bloodraven or the future High Septon or Coldhands. But who knows? I’m just happy to have him on the show.

    I could also see him as Damphair but not Victarion or Euron. I’m still holding out for Richard Armitage to play one of those two Greyjoys, since he has the coloring and acting chops to play either of them and they strike me as the conflicted and/or darker characters he said he likes to play. I know the odds of that are slim, though.

  210. outdoorcats
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Well, if he is, Mace, I have to say…

    *drumroll*

    I like the look of him!

    Of course, in theory, he could also be Styr the Magnar of Thenn, or a number of other roles.

    I haven’t seen him in anything yet, but a few people have tole me I need to watch ‘Sherlock,’ so I guess that will change soon enough.

    Congrats Mr. Gatniss, you just joined one of the greatest ensemble casts in television history. Hope you enjoy working with them. :)

  211. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm | Permalink

    Selmy,

    Many people did loved him as Moriarty I know.. You’re not alone.

  212. Alysane Mormont
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Oh, I could also see him being the Kindly Man. If it were up to me, that’s the role I’d cast him as, I think.

  213. outdoorcats
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Other wild suggestions, involving characters we don’t even know will be on the show:

    Ser Rodrik Harlaw? With a long wispy wig, he’d be a great look for Nuncle Rodrik, aka ‘The Reader.’

    Donal Noye…he’s got two arms, but I guess CGI can fix that.

    A Kettleblack? Ser Balon Swann?

    He’d be a great pick for any of those based on looks. And if what people are saying on this thread is true he’s quite a versatile actor.

  214. Chrysee
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:27 pm | Permalink

    I think he’d be a fine Mace, but I have to wonder.. Have there been other parts where they have announced the casting without the character? Outside of Ramsey (plot reasons) or random extras who didn’t end up being specific book-characters anyway?

  215. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Actually the Moriarty of the new Sherlock movies (Jared Harris) looks alot like how Mace Tyrell is described.

    http://maaretta.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/02moriarty-pg-horizontal.jpg

    He was brilliant as Layne in Mad Men, would be a great addition to GoT cast

  216. Turncloak
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    Good to have Mace Tyrell cast. Now we are officially ready for the PW

  217. Turncloak
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    I’m expecting the official announcement will come at Fridays panel of comic con

  218. Turncloak
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    I’m expecting the official announcement will come at Fridays panel of comic con
    Starkfell91,

    Given how much screen time Mace has in the books, a talking parrot would have been a fine improvement. to have an actual actor is a godsend ;)

  219. Seven Hells Bells
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

    Don’t think he’s gonna be Mace. Based on his work as Mycroft in BBC Sherlock, I’m leaning towards him being the High Septon and see that character havinf more screentime sooner rather than later.

  220. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:37 pm | Permalink

    Selmy,

    Don’t forget his David Robert Jones (both of them) on Fringe!

    As much as i like to see Harris bumbling around Isn’t he too young to be Margaery’s father?

  221. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I don’t think so, he was made to look pretty old in Mad Men. And yes of course! I always forget he was in Fringe.

  222. DavidBC
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    I can see him as Mace… but if they outfitted him correctly he could pass for Randly Tarly…

  223. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Selmy,

    I’d love Harris in GOT!
    I’d like him as Mace …I’ve thought of him for Cotter Pyke and the High Sparrow as well.
    Such a versatile actor that no role would be out of his range in all likelihood. He can do the sinister and threatening villain (David Robert Jones on Fringe), uptight and comedic (Layne on Mad Men), and everything in between.

  224. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    He’s 51 now ad by the time season 4 airs he will be 52. Dormer is 31 and plays younger on the series…. I think he looks old enough personally. The receding hairline helps quite a bit XD

  225. Quorin Halfhand
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 5:57 pm | Permalink
  226. Legion
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    High Septon/Sparrow early is a good call.

    He isnt right for Mace at all, unless they are changing his character as well as his appearance from the books.

    The could send Dany to Meereen early. Do his hair up and he’d make a great slightly weird Easterner……..

  227. PrinceTheon
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    I think the big question for me here is could he hang out in the Writer’s Room? Victory of the Daleks, the Idiot Lantern, and the Unquiet Dead are some of my favorite Who episodes, and Night Terrors is definitely one of the scariest/creepiest. On top of that, his two episodes he wrote in Sherlock, The Great Game and Hounds of Baskerville are 2 and 3 on my list of Sherlock episodes.

    Also of note, he wrote Cold War for Doctor Who, which guest stars Tobias Menzies (Edmure) and Liam Cunningham (Davos), as well as The Crimson Horror, which guest stars Diana Rigg (Queen of Thorns).

    And lastly, as far as who he’ll play, I think it’ll be Mace as well. But if not, go back and watch him act as Dr. Lazarus in the Doctor Who episode The Lazarus Experiment. He can pull off creepy/psycho, so I think Euron is on the table.

  228. Darquemode
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    Legion,

    Mark Gattis as Hizdahr zo Loraq?
    Something like this? XD

    http://oi41.tinypic.com/295y1zt.jpg

  229. KG
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle,

    Sure, it could get cooler – with Tom Baker as Aeron.

  230. WildSeed
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Bea T.:
    Hooray!!!!!!!! He was brilliant in Being Human UK and Sherlock :) I’m super excited!!!

    There you go, these are the affiliations I recognize him from. Not sure about the
    Doctor Who reference. I’m sure this actor brings interest to whomever he is to
    portray.

    Many comments are tossing around him as a contender for Mace Tyrell character.
    Such a consideration may enhance onscreen Mace’s scripting, however I would
    prefer something more sinister or calculating , of a role. Just can’t think of whom,
    at present. I’m also not putting much stock in onscreen Mace , no more than
    Oberyn Martell’s likely onscreen persona. Their involvement may be peripheral
    to any events there. My anxiety still rests with fulfilling a successful search for
    Randyll Tarley.

  231. Easteros bunny
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    I was hoping the Sherlock Holmes actor would be Robert downy jr or benerdick cucumber..or whatever that guys name is.

    Or Martin freeman, bilbo and tyrion save the day!

  232. WildSeed
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead,

    Hmmm…….. possible Nightwatch association, that’s what I’ve been thinking.
    With exclusions already, of familiar antagoniststowards Jon, I’m
    not sure whom this would be.

  233. WildSeed
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    Arkash,

    Thanks for the list (:

  234. Arkash
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:50 pm | Permalink

    PrinceTheon,

    Actually, if he has read the books and ever got the time outside of Doctor Who and Sherlock, he’d be a fantastic adition to the writer’s room ! He’s an excellent pen !

    Wildseed : you’re welcome ! Wrote all the characters that popped in my mind he could eventually play so I might have a chance at getting one right !

    I hope we will know by Friday / Saturday !

  235. Isabelle
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    KG:

    Sure, it could get cooler – with Tom Baker as Aeron.

    Indeed : ) And Nathan Fillion as Hyle Hunt, sweeping the fair lady Brienne off her well-armoured feet!

    Or…Leonard Nimoy as Denys Mallister!!

  236. Nick Larter
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Brown Ben Plumm?

  237. Jentario
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    Nick Larter:
    Brown Ben Plumm?

    White Ben Plum, more like.

  238. Tytos Lannister
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Has to be a Greyjoy.

  239. First
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    Funnny, I’ve only gotten round to watching TLOG now. He may be my least favourite of the three main actors, but he’s really good. And he could could be playing anyone, male or female. Only made the connection to Sherlock through reading this thread.

    Can’t really see him as Donal Noye, I never saw that character as comedic, more a bad-ass. Mace Tyrell has already been built up as possibly being overweight. I really like the Kindly Man suggestion but I don’t think we’ll see him this season.

    Maybe Damphair?

  240. Selmy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    I laughed

  241. Carne
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Graham McTavish for Randyll Tarly!

    And now that The Borgias has been cancelled we can have Sean Harris in every other role.

  242. moophasa
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere,

    It’s possible. But cue accusations of ‘blacking up’. I doubt they’d do that. But anyway, who says Doran will be in this season? I’d love it if he is, but he doesn’t necessarily need to be. Fingers crossed though.

  243. Ser Bug
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    It’s obvious he will play Brown Ben Plumm.

    EDIT: Disregard my comment, Nick Larter is already privy.

  244. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    From what I’ve seen, he’s a good actor but I genuinely have no clue as to what role he will play. There just isn’t an obvious candidate (although at a stretch we would have to say Mace).

    Hope we find out soon.

  245. Stacia
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Gatiss seems like he has a lot of projects he’s working on. Perhaps that would limit him to wanting to take an ongoing series commitment.

    My guess is that he’s someone who’s a fan of the show and willing to appear on a few episodes. There could be problems scheduling him in the future, so it likely is a character with limited appearances.

  246. Monica
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    How about doing some writing?

  247. Michel
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    Aeron Greyjoy, Euron or Mace!

  248. Chickenduck
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    I’ve not seen Sherlock, and I’m not really into Doctor Who (except for back in the 80s I really liked Sylvester MCoy for some reason) but I DID like League of Gentlemen back in the day… So I’m keen!

  249. Mary E Cubbins
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

    DaveB,

    Yes!! Thank you! Robert Carlysle would make a perfect Randyll Tarly….I love him but he does play the ‘twisted rotten bugger’ types quite well.

  250. wafi
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Agreed. Think it’s either Victarion or one of the other Greyjoy bros.

    AsimovBesterClarke!,

  251. Olenna's Dietician
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm.. never been an outright fan. As someone had noted, Gatiss tends to be hammy in his acting but then again that may be down to the directors. Having said that, could see him as one or a composite of Yara Greyjoy’s “elder relatives”…

  252. Rickon Greyjoy
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Haha fun to read all the guesses and speculation. My second thought after Mace Tyrell was maybe a recast Kevan Lannister but someone else has already mentioned that. I’m not really familiar with his work but did a google image search and don’t think he really has the “Greyjoy” look. Another poster had me thinking maybe the Florent guy who has it out for Davos as he can apparently play serious roles as well.
    However, I think I’ll go off the board with a more cameo appearance a la Burn Gorman and throw out that he’ll be ‘Nimble Dick’. Hehe.

  253. Rabid Bogling
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    High Sparrow’s a good call. As is Aeron Greyjoy. My money’s on a slightly expanded Nimble Dick.

    Whatever the case he’s quite a versatile actor. Shouldn’t necessarily base the character he’ll get in Game of Thrones on his previous roles.

  254. Chickenduck
    Posted July 17, 2013 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    I could totally see Bran’s storyline move into ADWD and we could see Gatiss play the Bloodraven. I’m fully down with Dany, Arya’s and Bran’s storylines moving into AFFC/ADWD territory this season, even if everyone else is still in SoS stuff.

  255. Edward
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 12:02 am | Permalink

    I love league of gentleman

  256. Ashton Lee
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 12:20 am | Permalink

    Now all we need is Mark Sheppard. I don’t care who he’d play, he is a must for every self-respecting show.

  257. Lucie
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 12:29 am | Permalink

    If he really is Mace Tyrell, I have no worries. Mark Gatiss is no stranger to prosthetic makeup considering he wore a bunch for his roles on Doctor Who. I can’t wait for the show to return now!

  258. Dogmayor
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    Dara,

    So was Beric.

  259. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    Ashton Lee,

    Unfortunately Supernatural has him. Which was a self respected show four years ago.

  260. Eleanor
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 1:22 am | Permalink

    Hello Mycroft!

    I think Gatiss has a certain steeliness that would fit better at the Wall than on the Small Council. But he’ll be good regardless.

    Edited to agree that he’d be GREAT as the Kindly Man.

  261. janarchy
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    I wouldn’t be shocked at all if Mark was cast as Mace Tyrell. He’s a good friend of Dame Diana Rigg — he wrote the Doctor Who episode “The Crimson Horror” with her in mind for the role of Mrs Gillyflower, and he worked with her in the show “All About My Mother” (which I had the good fortune to see while in London a few years ago). He’s an amazing actor and anyone who only knows him from Sherlock is missing out on plenty of other brilliant roles. His Mr Snow from S4 of “Being Human” is one of the creepiest things I’ve ever seen in my life.

    He’s also very good at playing fops and ponderous fools (see his John Dashwood in “Sense & Sensibility” and several other roles, so he’d definitely be a good Mace. We’ve already learnt that size isn’t everything when it comes to bringing the story to the screen (e.g. Lysa Arryn).

    I think he’d also be an amazing Kindly Man assuming we get that far in the story this year.

  262. Arthur
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 1:54 am | Permalink

    Just found a really cool fan made video about The Red Viper and the cumminication Tyrion and The Red Viper will have…

    He does warn before spoilers…

    http://youtu.be/9ya4YhxX9LU

  263. msd
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:00 am | Permalink

    Gatiss has a pretty high profile in the UK but it’s impossible to know whether this will be a significant role or a cameo. He could be Mace or he could be a made up character (a la Burn Gorman) who appears in one episode. Not Coldhands, though, that’s silly.

  264. Chickenduck
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    Dara:
    bowen marsh was in season 1

    Not exactly – the guy in S1 was actually just credited as “Night’s Watch member ##”. However, the actor was told that the role “may” be expanded to officially being Bowen Marsh.

    See Beric and Rickard Karstark for further details.

  265. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:16 am | Permalink

    msd,

    Actually, Gorman’s character wasn’t made up. In the books the guy who kills Craster is named Karl, same as in the show.

  266. bon
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    Carne,

    Second and aproved. I saw him in the Hobbit pre-production videos and shout: Randyll Tarly, because he looked so much how I imagined him. http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/l/rambo_stallone_070508/graham_mctavish_5132780.jpg

  267. Chickenduck
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:21 am | Permalink

    Not on topic – but do people think we’ll see more members of House Umber? With Rickon and Osha headed there instead of Skagos, and the Umbers/Last Hearth being name-checked a few times (such as in Ramsay’s “Guess Where You Are” game) then I guess they still have a role to play.

    With Rickon tweeting that he’ll be in S4 (though not Osha at this point) maybe we’ll see someone like the Whoresbane or Mors Crowfood?

    Or… we can dare dream that they’ll surprise everyone with the Greatjon returning, maybe in S5… Instead of him being in a dungeon at the Twins, they say that he had to go back North for some reason. Then he could take the place of Mors in the ADWD stuff… though that won’t be for another season or two yet.

  268. Chickenduck
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:22 am | Permalink

    Maybe some Umber/Bolton faceoffs in S4? Make House Umber symbolic for the Northerners reluctantly pretending to be on Ramsay/Roose’s side?

  269. zambi76
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:29 am | Permalink

    Amoka’s artwork of Mace Tyrell, used for the Fantasy Flight games and approved by GRRM

    Yeah, I usually like Amoka’s stuff but her Mace is a miss to me. I think that’s the fattest Mace of all fanart (he looks as fat as Robert here, just not as broad) and made me eyeroll. I’m very protective of my puff-fishy, sorry. But maybe the show will go with that too and Gatiss is playing something else, I think we’ll know soon enough.

  270. WildSeed
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 3:01 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm: No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.No. NO.

    Thank you kind ser, for speaking sensibly on this matter. Young Griff and
    Cumberbatch should never appear in the same sentence, except as a
    dire warning.

  271. Nick Larter
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 3:33 am | Permalink

    The many faces of Mark Gatiss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6Gf8RFiCrc

  272. Courtjezter
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 3:39 am | Permalink

    Can we have Steve Pemberton cast as Wyman Manderley too.

    “Hello, Dave.”

  273. Chris77
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 4:06 am | Permalink

    My guess would be either the recast Bowen Marsh or, considering that Dany has already conquered Yunkai and will probably move on soon, the Shavedpate.

  274. Jon Snow
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    Euron Greyjoy, Randyll Tarly, or the third High Septon ( the high sparrow ). Unsure if they would cast the High Sparrow yet, but this actor would be awesome for these inquisitory scenes with Cersei.

    This guy would be wasted on Mace Tyrell or Victarion imo.

  275. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    Mark Gatiss playing DOCTOR WHO in a comedy sketch (also featuring David Walliams).

  276. boze
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 4:33 am | Permalink

    Wild guess: Cotter Pyke?

    Why? 1. Potential scenes for Stannis before he arrives at Castleblack.
    2. They need some candidates for the election of the new LC to take place.
    3. Showing Hardhome could make for an impressive scene in S5/S6.. they could use him as a PoV there.

  277. Mjoed
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 4:55 am | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead:
    Mark Gatiss playing DOCTOR WHO in a comedy sketch (also featuring David Walliams).

    he’s playing the doctor. not doctor who.

    coldhands would be fantastic. but i don’t mind, he can play what he wants, as long as he’s on the show.

  278. hinka @ OFF-Topic
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 5:21 am | Permalink

    65th Primetime Emmy® Nominations Announcement
    July 18, 2013 – 5:15am – 6:00am

    on emmy.com

  279. Moono
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 5:36 am | Permalink

    Oh God I am so pumped about this. It never even occurred to me that Gatiss could be cast in GoT. Seriously, give him the biggest role possible this is fantastic. He’s an extremely talented actor and a very, very clever man. If we’re doing recommendations I would strongly recommend the Crooked House BBC trilogy that he wrote and acted in. It is properly terrifying.

    Agh this is fantastic.

  280. Troublesome Birdsong
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 5:39 am | Permalink

    The only Greyjoy I could possibly see him playing is Rodrik Harlaw, but he’s too small a character for them to bother with.
    The High Septon is not really introduced until half way through A Feast for Crows, which is approximately the beginning of season 6, maybe late season 5. If they bump it up to season 4, I really don’t know what he’d be doing while waiting around for his storyline to kick in.

  281. Rabid Bogling
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 6:00 am | Permalink

    I suppose he could be a more prominent Axell Florent, given the need to introduce the Queensmen as a major faction and politicise Selyse.

  282. Aegon the Conqueror
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 6:14 am | Permalink

    Don’t worry just like with Edmure’s beard, they’ll cgi he’s belly in later if he’s playing Mace.

  283. GG
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    He has to be an evil character(Greyjoy hopefully). When I see him, all I see is Dr. Lazarus so I won’t be able to take him seriously otherwise. He’s too cunning & vindictive to play an idiot like Mace Tyrell.

  284. Vikestad
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 6:54 am | Permalink

    Lucie,

    There will be no make up to make anyone fatter in the show. Ever. Stop being silly.

  285. msd
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Well, they borrowed a name (Clubfoot Karl) but Gorman played a composite character they created in order to represent the mutineers, including Dirk, the one who killed Craster.

  286. Turncloak
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    Rabid Bogling: I suppose he could be a more prominent Axell Florent, given the need to introduce the Queensmen as a major faction and politicise Selyse.

    Lol

  287. Matt
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    I’m guessing either Victarion or Bowen Marsh. My first guess was Doran, but then I realized they’ll probably pick a Chilean actor for him (and one who’s older).

  288. Summer Is Coming
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    Peter Dinklage, Emilia Clarke and Diana Rigg GoT nominated!!! Plus Game of Thrones as a drama series of course!!!

  289. AngryRosFan
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    I don’t watch Sherlock but my daughter does and she’s very excited about this casting notice. I could see Mark Gatiss playing an uncle of Theon and Yara (but please NOT Damphair) or a not-fat version of Mace Tyrell.

    As for Robert Carlyle… isn’t he kind of busy with Once Upon a Time? Or has that show been canceled?

  290. mariamb18
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming:
    Peter Dinklage, Emilia Clarke and Diana Rigg GoT nominated!!! Plus Game of Thrones as a drama series of course!!!

    Just saw that. D&D nominated as writers for “Rains of Castamere.” Have not heard the list of nominees for director of a drama series.

    These categories are very competitive. And while I love Emilia and Peter and am happy for their recognition, there were clearly other GOT performers this past season who deserved noms (Michelle, Nikolaj). Emmy voters can’t seem to get past the obvious choices.

  291. Anne
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    No directing nom :(

    still waiting for them to load the other technical categories so we can see the total haul.

  292. hinka
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Hodor,

    about EMMYS:

    1. Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen – Supporting Actress In A Drama Series
    2. Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister – Supporting Actor In A Drama Series
    3. Diana Rigg as Olenna Tyrell – Guest Actress In A Drama Series
    4. Game Of Thrones – The Rains Of Castamere – Writing for a Drama Series
    5. Game Of Thrones – Drama Series

    So 5 Primetime Emmy Nominations.

    And:
    6. Outstanding Interactive Program
    7. Outstanding Art Direction For A Single-Camera Series
    8. Outstanding Casting For A Drama Series
    9. Outstanding Cinematography For A Single-Camera Series
    10. Outstanding Costumes For A Series
    11. Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing For A Drama Series
    12. Outstanding Hairstyling For A Single-Camera Series
    13. Outstanding Makeup For A Single-Camera Series (Non-Prosthetic)
    14. Outstanding Prosthetic Makeup For A Series, Miniseries, Movie Or A Special
    15. Outstanding Sound Editing For A Series
    16. Outstanding Sound Mixing For A Comedy Or Drama Series
    17. Outstanding Special Visual Effects

  293. NewJeffCT
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    No directing nomination for GoT that I saw, though. So, I’m guessing they won’t win best dramatic series?

  294. mariamb18
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:26 am | Permalink

    NewJeffCT,

    Yes. Very strange. Boardwalk Empire gets a Directing nom but a Drama Series nom.

  295. Teresa
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    mariamb18,
    . . .there were clearly other GOT performers this past season who deserved noms (Michelle, Nikolaj). Emmy voters can’t seem to get past the obvious choices.

    I posted before that Emmy voters are like the ones for the Oscars and Grammys- why figure things out when you can just save time and put in the usual suspects? They’re just plain lazy. It’s all the same. . .ugh.

    Really thought Michelle Fairley had a better chance to sneak into the Supporting Actress category. But I was still pleasantly surprised anyone managed to, so congrats to Emilia! (love her)

    As for Nikolaj, it’s possible next season’s storylines might give him more prominence and better chances to be nominated.

    There’s just too many people- the cast is too big. This show deserves its own separate Emmy categories.

    And I still predict GoT will pull off an upset win for Best Drama.

  296. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Sure in my head Mace is much fatter and more red faced but I still think Mark is great choice, that’s if he’s playing Mace of course.

    Sherlock is an outstanding show I can’t wait to see season 3 at the end of the year.

  297. Arristan The Old
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Thaddeus: He will be playing the role of Doran Martell. Everybody knows that!

    Wait, I thought Ben Kingsley had been cast as Doran a couple of weeks ago…?

    Anyhow, this guy should be pretty good no matter who he plays.
    And fercripesake, cast Simon Merrells as somebody already!

  298. Moom
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Gatkiss is awesome in Sherlock Holmes!! He’s going to be equally sanguine in GoTH!!!

  299. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Arristan The Old:
    And fercripesake, cast Simon Merrells as somebody already!

    Yes, please!

  300. Fehler
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    If not the High Sparrow, maybe the Elder Brother of the Quiet Isles?

  301. Michel
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    Please cast Todd Lasance (Caesar from Spartacus) as anyone. He was for sure the best addition to the cast for the last season.

  302. Darquemode
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Arristan The Old,

    And fercripesake, cast Simon Merrells as somebody already!

    He was one of the few stand outs on Spartacus while I still watched the series. Wonder if he could make a good Euron? He has those piercing eyes that show rage well and an ability to just look threatening without doing much.

  303. Varamyr Fourskins
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Love Sherlock (BBC Sherlock, that is), but I don’t really see Gatiss as a fit for Mace or Doran. Could be. But he doesn’t quite bring either character to my mind.

    The first character I thought of was the High Sparrow — however, I’m not sure if he’ll be introduced so soon. But I definitely thought of either a Septon or a Maester when hearing Gatiss had been cast. He has that kind of look.

    On the other hand, I’m not sure why they’d have to keep his character a secret if that’s the case… unless he’s Coldhands. But you generally don’t cast a guy like that to veil his face. He’s (fairly) recognizable, and as has been mentioned, he probably has more nerd-cred than Neil deGrasse Tyson himself. So, hiding his face probably wouldn’t be too smart.

    Really, I have no clue who he’ll be playing. I’m stumped. But I’m stoked he was cast. I’d say Nina Gold deserves a place in the Hall of Fame for casting directors, if there were such a thing.

  304. Dani
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know why everyone gets so hung up on the weight of an actor in casting a part. It’s the feeling that the actor brings to the role that matters. Mark is perfect to play Mace Tyrell. If you’ve seen him play off Benedict Cumberbatch’s Sherlock you know how funny he can be in a snooty “I am better than you” kind of way. I can’t wait to see him with Diana Rigg!

  305. Fire And Blood
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    I too would be surprised if he were being cast as Mace Tyrell, owing that A. the show has suggested Mace is, at the very least, portly (and assigned his penchant for laying siege to a banquet table) and Mark is most certainly not, but mostly because B. we knew that role was being cast, so it wouldn’t make sense for HBO to keep his character name under wraps. They only hold back on names for specific reasons, i.e. Iwan Rheon as “Boy.”

    I suspect this is an altogether new role – some sort of necessary amalgamation of one or more other characters. I doubt it will be a Martell.

    That said, I think he could play a Mace Tyrell exceedingly well. It would surprise me if they cast Gatiss in a role that didn’t somehow utilize his sly off-kilter humor.

    (Then again, what do I know? I liked them casting Ciarán Hinds as Mance at first, but didn’t like how they utilized him at all, when all was said and done.)

  306. loco73
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Welcome to the cast and the show…prepare to have your life and your credentials vetted more than a nominee for the US Supreme Court!

  307. Majiinx
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    I’m thinking Randal Tarly, doesn’t seem to be a good fit for Mace Tyrell.

  308. Kyle Foster
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 4:28 pm | Permalink

    Mace Tyrell

  309. Delta1212
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    Obviously, he’s the new replacement Mountain.

  310. Delta1212
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:00 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    If Game of Thrones ends before Supernatural, there is something horribly wrong with the world, and I say this as someone who has seen every episode of both shows.

  311. Calamardo
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    He really increase my expectations about the next season. I just found this Great quiz here only for fans

  312. Delta1212
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    Calamardo,

    Quiz is technically wrong. On the show, Robert and Cersei had one son (who promptly died, but still), not zero.

  313. Fire And Blood
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    Updated with new information up top!

  314. Phoenix_torn
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    Here’s the link

  315. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 18, 2013 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Did he watch the show before auditioning? That could help us figure out who he’d be playing. If he did, then he wouldn’t need to learn so many names unless they’re new characters. If he says northern Irish accent, and learning new names, I’d say he’s probably going to be someone on the wall. Styr, maybe, since they confirmed Styr was being cast around the time they said Red Viper was being cast.

    ETA: Ah so he did watch the show! So new names to learn means either interaction with new characters OR naming a lot of minor characters/reading off of a list as was suggested above.

  316. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    Okay so he had to learn names, which means characters he interacts with were probably not seen before, since he watches the show.
    He had to do a northern Irish accent.
    Saying if his role had to do with swords would “give too much away.”
    He finished filming already, which means he must have been cast and ready to go from before July 8th. The only ones we know for sure were being cast before then were Magnar, Mace, and Red Viper. RV has been announced, Mace isn’t a northerner.

    I’m going to change my guess to the Magnar

  317. Chickenduck
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 12:10 am | Permalink

    Where have we heard an Irish accent in the show so far? Maybe the Dornish will sound Irish? The Thenns? Although the Thenns aren’t supposed to be native speakers of Common (referred to in show by Ygritte).

    I have no idea.

    Maybe he was just trolling, as he needs to shoot in Belfast and wants to fit in with the locals :)

  318. Isabelle
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    Phoenix_torn:
    Here’s the link

    Thanks! Great stuff! If he’s finished filming his part already, that eliminates Mace (and a whole slew of others)!

  319. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    It occurred to me that he could just be trolling, due to the way his face looked after he said that, but I decided to not try to speculate/interpret too much. But yes, pretty much anything can happen…Maybe they’ll decide to play Styr as slightly better at the common tongue than the rest. Who knows.

  320. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    He said he has already finished filming, which means he is not Styr or Mace. It also means it was a smaller part if he only filmed for one week. I think the odds of him playing a name character from the books are slim. I’d guess he would have to be involved with either the Dragonstone crew or Dreadfort crew.

  321. Darquemode
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 1:24 am | Permalink

    Interesting tease in the Gatiss interview video!

    I think like many that Mace and Styr are ruled out, as is any role on Essos I would think.

    If the comment about hair was honestly a clue, maybe Aeron Greyjoy with the long hair and beard? He would only have a few scenes and I can see him being done filming already. If they filmed some Iron Islands scenes in Belfast of course.

    I think some hair would definitely fit Denys Mallister (or a combo character) of the Night’s Watch as well. He would likely only have a couple scenes.

    I they filmed Dragonstone scenes below the castle maybe he is part of that arc. Dragonstone chamberlain Axell Florent maybe (although he is supposed to be heavy), or maybe Stannis’s new master? I think he was quite young and his only real scene was helping Davos get Edric out of Dragonstone and that happened last year , right? Hmm.. Unlikely…

    Hopefully we get news tomorrow!

  322. Darquemode
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Castellan not chamberlain… Ooops. XD

    I always pictured Mel Smith as Axell Florent.. He has those huge Florent ears! XD
    Timothy Spall too…. I guess weight is not important to the role in any way though so they could cast a tall and thin Gattis…. Maybe.

  323. Michel
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    I really have no clue. But I’m calling it Aeron Greyjoy.

  324. Darquemode
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 1:48 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I thought of Axell at first, but I wonder if Gattis could be playing Alester Florent? Think they could intro him as Selyse’s uncle and then bring in his plans to make peace with the Lannsiters leading to Melisandre burning him?

    I have been wondering how they would delay Stannis arriving at the Wall and that would work quite nicely!

  325. Uther Greenshirt
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 2:17 am | Permalink

    Of Course he is Mace the only role important enough to cast an actor/writer of his stature.

  326. Chickenduck
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 2:27 am | Permalink

    If he’s going to be “hairy”, maybe he’ll be hairy and damp?

  327. Nezzer
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 2:38 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck:
    If he’s going to be “hairy”, maybe he’ll be hairy and damp?

    I hope so. I wanted him to be Mace, but that seems unlikely now. Aeron is my second choice for him. I don’t want him to be Bloodraven, though. That would be a waste of a good actor. He’s basically a talking tree and I’ve always imagined his voice to be kinda monotone. Anyone could interpret him well. Leave Bloodraven to Ian Whyte.

  328. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 2:44 am | Permalink

    Do you think they would film the Iron Islands scenes in Belfast? I suppose if they truly introduce the Greyjoy brothers in S4 then any of them could be a good guess. It just seems odd that they would wrap all of their scenes in one week.

  329. Sarah-Jane
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 3:20 am | Permalink

    I don’t really mind who he is as long as he can do justice to the character he is playing. However has anyone thought of casting David Threfall (Frank Gallaghar in shameless original uk version) as personally I think he could be brilliant as the kindly man, Tarly or even (if they do his) the red priest, forgotten his name, who travels with Tyrion and Victarion. He could really pull those characters off.
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0861915/

  330. Chickenduck
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 5:43 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Do you think they would film the Iron Islands scenes in Belfast? I suppose if they truly introduce the Greyjoy brothers in S4then any of them could be a good guess. It just seems odd that they would wrap all of their scenes in one week.

    If he’s Aeron, he might only have a short cameo, essentially as a world-building device. As in, he could show up in one episode, resuscitate someone, do the Drowned God shtick, then transition to Balon, establish they’re brother etc etc. Balon dies, and we never see Aeron again (this season).

    Regards filming, the stuff in Pyke Harbour was shot in a little village in Northern Ireland called Ballintoy. The interior scenes are probably done in Belfast like most everything else.

  331. Rfresa
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    What about someone in the Vale? Bronze Yohn Royce or Lyn Corbrey? A maester or a certain singer?

  332. Greg
    Posted July 19, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    I think he’s either Aeron or basically an extended cameo, like Burn Gorman was last season. Merrett Frey maybe?

  333. Courtjezter
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 3:38 am | Permalink

    The longer they don’t announce who he is playing the less I believe he will be playing Mace Tyrell.

    Why would they not want to tell people that. My thoughts are that it could be someone appearing earlier than in the books, I have heard Jon Connington as a good fit. But it could also be a character they want to keep quiet for other reasons, in which case Coldhands may be a good call.

    Just my opinion though.

  334. arolig
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Aeron Damphier?

  335. JonnyPT
    Posted July 22, 2013 at 5:04 am | Permalink

    Aeron Greyjoy would be my guess as well.

  336. Nick Larter
    Posted July 22, 2013 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

    Nothing new under the Sun; apparently we were touting Gatiss for a GoT role back in 2010:-

    http://winter-is-coming.net/2010/12/season-two-open-casting-thread/

    relevant posts are near to the end.

    (And elsewhere in the same thread someone nailed Thomas Sangster as Jojen)

  337. Kay
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    Mark has the look of a Greyjoy about him to me, my first thought was Euron, he’d pull off the mysterious, worldly and ambitious traits of that character really well. But having read the article, the line about the character having “a bit of hair” leads me to think he’s the Damphair.

    Though the note about the Irish accent makes me consider the posibility of someone from north of the wall (and gods know they all have plenty of hair up there). Though there’s not a lot of wildlings yet to be introduced, maybe apart from the Magnar of Thenn (I don’t think we’ve seen him yet in the series?).

  338. cabbo
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    I think (for various reasons) that this could be our Howland Reed. The Northern Irish accent has only really been heard (a little) in Winterfell, in the north. There are rumours that this next season will involve swamps (second hand extras scoop), and Asha’s story could go in that direction.

    Then again, Jojen and Meera are posh wee gits, so that runs contrary.

  339. cabbo
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    BTW, the wildling accent is not even close to a Northern Irish one. It’s more of a combination of Scottish and Welsh.

  340. Rhys
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    I’m surprised people are talking about Penny.

    FWIW, I’m about 80% sure there will be no jousting dwarfs. That’s just not something they can do in the show. I’d say money’s even as to whether Penny is added but in a significantly changed role.

  341. Jens
    Posted August 3, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Bronze Yohn Royce perhaps? Lysa Arryn is returning to the set. Might as well have an anti-Littlefinger storyline.

  342. RenlyIsNotRight
    Posted August 3, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Lasance actually seems to be a fan favorite for Darkstar, which I think is the perfect role for him personally. Darkstar probably won’t be on the show til Season 5 though.

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