Young actor cast for season four
By Ours is the Fury on in Casting.

Brenock O'ConnorWith filming continuing in Belfast and beginning in Iceland this week, the notoriously huge cast of Game of Thrones grows larger every day. Another child actor has been added to the ranks, and two uncertain returns have been confirmed.

According to the Theatre Workshop in England, one of their students, Brenock O’Connor has been cast in a role on the show. The casting is announced on both their Facebook and their Twitter, where his shooting location is noted:

The actor’s age is listed as thirteen on his Spotlight CV. O’Connor featured in an episode of BBC’s Holby City, played Dodger in the UK tour of Cameron Mackintosh’s production of Oliver!, and has several new roles in the works. O’Connor is represented by Mark Jermin Management.

In other Thrones casting news, we have confirmation of two returns.

  • With Tony Way‘s tweets in the last few weeks mentioning Belfast, it seemed a return to the show was in the cards and now we have confirmation on the actor’s CV, which states that he’s “currently filming on season four of HBO’s ‘Game Of Thrones’ in which he returns to the role of Dontos Hollard.” Many had speculated that the jester/ex-knight had been written out of the show entirely, so his return is a welcome surprise.
  • It looks like Ramsay’s friend Myranda will be back next season. Charlotte Hope is also confirmed to appear in season four via her CV. The director for her episodes is only listed as “Various,” so the director was either unknown at the time of the CV updating, or Hope will be in multiple episodes.

Ours is the Fury: O’Connor could play any number of small roles suitable for a young boy in the Riverlands on Arya’s journey. It is possible he is playing a younger member of the Night’s Watch, but thirteen is pushing it, even for the TV version of the Watch. If he is someone that Arya encounters, it would gel with the speculation that Iceland is largely playing the role of the Riverlands in S4.


195 Comments

  1. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    Hey, someone I’m distantly related to! Just one step closer to landing a part…

  2. Michel
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    I hope Myranda won’t be hunt by Ramsay, because Theon was already hunted. That would be repetitive. Since she is learning to mount a hourse, I hope she travels with Ramsay and Theon for Moat Callin or to hunt Rickon and Osha.

  3. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    I saw Charlotte tweeting around riding horses, but she’s also going to be on the new TV version of The Three Musketeers so I wasn’t sure whether the horses were for GoT or that. Either way, hanging around Ramsay too long is a sketchy proposition.

    Stephanie Blacker just had a baby so she won’t be back this year.

  4. Omar Brown
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    I have a feeling Tommen might be re-cast this season. As the young man who played him last season was missing completely.

  5. direhound
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    the young boy could also be involved in Brienne’s storyline somehow. Mini-Pod?

  6. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Maybe he’d be the squire at the inn.

    Or more than likely, he’s “kid who shows up for a scene.”

    Anyone wonder if D&D have kept a tighter lid on the casting stuff after the ridiculous whinefest that broke out from the Pedro Pascal news?

  7. Abyss
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    I have posted this before, but I think it fits right in here. Here is a little taste of Brenock O’Connors acting skills.

  8. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    I have a feeling Tommen might be re-cast this season. As the young man who played him last season was missing completely.

    He does look like he could do the part justice but the filming location doesn’t really mesh at all.

  9. Bittersteel
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Big Walder? Could be setting up future events that happen in Winterfell.

  10. ebevan91
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    I have a feeling Tommen might be re-cast this season. As the young man who played him last season was missing completely.

    Well, they’re going to have to find a Tommen, somewhere, since he’ll be king at some point in season 4.

  11. Michel
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see a motive to re-cast Tommen. Was there a problem with the actor? I never noticed anything wrong with him.

  12. Winter Is Coming
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Anyone wonder if D&D have kept a tighter lid on the casting stuff after the ridiculous whinefest that broke out from the Pedro Pascal news?

    Highly doubt that. They kept a tight lid on casting last season too, until the Comic-Con video was released. It’s just… there’s not many roles that need to be cast. We’ll probably get one or two more announcements and the rest will just be leaked stuff like this, due to them being minor or “top secret” roles.

  13. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Bittersteel:
    Big Walder? Could be setting up future events that happen in Winterfell.

    I doubt it, just given

    that there are so many Freys, it’s hard to keep ‘em all straight. Big and Little Walder aren’t really that necessary.

  14. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Also, it’s entirely possible Tommen was missing last season because… Tommen didn’t happen to be in any scenes last season. Nothing more. I mean granted it is a tad odd and the realm of child actors can indeed be a somewhat more fickle one but this is the show that just surprised us with Dontos’ Tony Way return, after all.

  15. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming: Highly doubt that. They kept a tight lid on casting last season too, until the Comic-Con video was released. It’s just… there’s not many roles that need to be cast. We’ll probably get one or two more announcements and the rest will just be leaked stuff like this, due to them being minor or “top secret” roles.

    True, there is that. Good point.

  16. Lars
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor: He does look like he could do the part justice but the filming location doesn’t really mesh at all.

    Indeed – All of Tommen’s scenes should be shot in Belfast or Croatia – not Iceland.

  17. Tyson
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    What about little lord Robert? Is the young man from season 1 coming back?

  18. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Tyson:
    What about little lord Robert? Is the young man from season coming back?

    It would be groovy to have confirmation on this. That kid sold “Robyn” very well.

  19. Loinir Longbow
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    Could he be one of the children of the forest? The scenes beyond-the-wall are also filmed in Iceland, right?

  20. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:18 pm | Permalink

    Loinir Longbow:
    Could he be one of the children of the forest? The scenes beyond-the-wall are also filmed in Iceland, right?

    This sprang to my mind too.

    Were it not for Hodor the Reeds would begin to seem giants themselves.

  21. Carne
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Why would they need to re-cast Tommen? It’s brought up everytime we hear about some kid being cast.

  22. Cary Storm
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

    Edric Dayne! Can’t be anyone else.

  23. Michel
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    I think if he was on the tv show he would had already appeared with the BwB in S3

  24. Bittersteel
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    I don’t expect every Frey but they could combine Big Walder with Olyvar, Perwyn to give us more sympathetic Freys. And I do think he may play a larger role in the battle of Winterfell.

  25. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor:
    Also, it’s entirely possible Tommen was missing last season because… Tommen didn’t happen to be in any scenes last season. Nothing more. I mean granted it is a tad odd and the realm of child actors can indeed be a somewhat more fickle one but this is the show that just surprised us with Dontos’ Tony Way return, after all.

    The actor who plays him has a sweetness that works well for the character, too, so I think that will be fine.

    People keep talking about re-casting. But they don’t do a lot of re-casting. So far the re-casting has been:

    –David Michael Scott, an extra who had one line as Beric Dondarrion in “Golden Crown” (and sorta looks like a younger, more vibrant Richard Dormer)
    –Steven Blount, an extra who was never named as Rickard Karstark but had his dialogue in “Fire and Blood.”
    –Gregor Clegane (an occurrence that wasn’t really by choice, it seems)
    –Extras seen in jail carriage going to the Wall (later turn out to be Rorge and Biter, and Jaqen, tho the third person is hidden by a cloak – also never identified)
    –”Night’s Watch man” who is never named in show, but identified in production as Bowen Marsh (and this only assumes he gets re-cast for this year)

    That’s it. Other than that, if they’ve appeared a few times, and have a noticeable face and are identified with a character, the inclination for me is to think they won’t be re-cast. Beric’s appearance in Season 1 was a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it-random-redhead-exiting-the-stage kind of deal; the first “Karstark” was never identified. The only real “re-casting” they’ve done is with Gregor Clegane, and again, that seems to have been forced upon them. Even when Clive Mantle had some scheduling issues, they just kept the Greatjon out of the show – though I do wonder if he comes back in Season 4. I was happy to see Maester Aemon return, along with Balon Greyjoy, and will be happy to see Dontos return as well.

  26. Nezzer
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    Abyss:
    I have posted this before, but I think it fits right in here. Here is a little taste of Brenock O’Connors acting skills.

    I hope he is either Little Walder or Big Walder. He can play an annoying kid pretty well.

  27. NomadicDirewolf
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    I don’t see a motive to re-cast Tommen. Was there a problem with the actor? I never noticed anything wrong with him.

    have you seen that scene with sansa with cersei, tommen and myrcella at dinner in season 2? The guy who played tommen had a pretty obvious liverpool accent going on which seem completely random and out of place. It was laughable. Still his voice was fine later on in blackwater at the end. Not sure if they need to recast but if they do they wouldnt cast this guy anyway. But still, there is definitely some improvements needed from him.

  28. Eljuma
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    There have only been 3 named male Freys at a time. That’s not “too many”, especially considering that Walder Rivers and Steffon Frey are likely never coming back, and none of them was a child. A Big Walder/Little Walder mashup could be a good way to give Bolton someone to talk to and establish that unlike his son, he is not a complete monster.

  29. Cary Storm
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Right, because they always introduce characters at the same time as their general group in the books. Oh wait…

    (Selyse, Shireen, Styr)

  30. Greg
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    Big Walder is certainly a possibility, especially if they go into any of Reek’s chapters in ADWD.

  31. Streamweaver
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    I’m wondering if he’ll play a role the young actor has outgrown and haven’t seen in a few seasons. Robert Aryn? Tommen?

  32. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    Robert Arryn/Sweetrobin was confirmed some time ago. Actually Lino Facioli filmed scenes last year with Kate Dickie but they were cut, apparently, so presumably he’ll be back this year, along with her already-confirmed return.

  33. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Eljuma:
    GreatJon of Slumber,

    There have only been 3 named male Freys at a time. That’s not “too many”, especially considering that Walder Rivers and Steffon Frey are likely never coming back, and none of them was a child. A Big Walder/Little Walder mashup could be a good way to give Bolton someone to talk to and establish that unlike his son, he is not a complete monster.

    That’s true enough, I suppose. It’s just that, well, there are a lot of families with a lot of family members. And the Freys suck.

  34. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Jeff O’Connor,

    Robert Arryn/Sweetrobin was confirmed some time ago. Actually Lino Facioli filmed scenes last year with Kate Dickie but they were cut, apparently, so presumably he’ll be back this year, along with her already-confirmed return.

    That’s GREAT. That kid was perfect in that part. (As was Kate Dickie; she’s another one that embodies the spirit of the character even if the appearance isn’t quite as expected.)

  35. jentario
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    Michel,

    Right, because they always introduce characters at the same time as their general group in the books.Oh wait…

    (Selyse, Shireen, Styr)

    As much as I would have liked to see Ned Dayne, I think he didn”t make the cutting block.

  36. Greenseer
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    NomadicDirewolf,

    I know there’s the old joke over here about Liverpool being the capital of Ireland, but really! The little lad who has been playing Tommen is Irish and that is definitely the accent that slipped out during that table scene. Trust me, it was NOT a Liverpool accent.

  37. Davidbc
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    Bran recast?…

  38. Arristan The Old
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm: Edric Dayne! Can’t be anyone else.

    I was thinking it might be him too. Though IMO it probably *could* be someone else.
    Elmar Frey maybe? Though I don’t recall if Arya’s betrothal from the books was ever actually part of the deal in the show… Anyhow, Ned Dayne is my first pick too.

  39. Arristan The Old
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Davidbc: Bran recast?…

    He looks more like Rickon to me. But I don’t think either one will be recast.

  40. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    I think Big and/or Little Walder is a definite possibility. They are a part of the murders taking place in Bolton occupied Winterfell. They can probably condense them into one character. Those scenes probably won’t happen until season 5, but they can introduce him now as a squire. Big and Little Walder were brats who bullied Hodor and enjoyed hanging out with Ramsay. They definitely won’t make the Frey’s more likable.
    He could also be somebody that Arya/Hound adventures intersect with. I doubt he’s a recast Tommen or Robyn. We’ll know more if we ever find out which established cast members are in Iceland.

  41. JamesL
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Ramsay didn’t strip Theon naked and then hunt him down with a crossbow in the show so I don’t see how it would be repetitive. Ramsay never even hunted Theon in the show he just tricked him. I pretty sure I remember something in ADWD about Theon befriending some girl while being captive and then helping her escape but she gets hunted down by Ramsay. I hope to see something like that in the show.

  42. Arthur
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:04 pm | Permalink

    Winter Is Coming,

    As many have already stated, this season will not have very much casting news. However season 5 will be exciting…

    Many characters will die this coming season and this will make lots of room for House Martell characters to join the cast.

    I can’t wait to hear what female actors will be cast as the sexy Martells…

  43. Davidbc
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    I could see a young boy being added to the Bolton story line… Maybe he could be Domeric? This would enable some character building in the Theon/Ramsay storyline to have Ramsay kill his brother on screen… and the impact could be greater if the brother is significantly younger.

    I could also see him inserted into this storyline in the place of the Frey boys… making the impact of his death later in teh show more significant. Maybe he could be a ward that Roose sends home from the Twins?

  44. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    I’ve got to wonder if Charlotte Hope is going to be fArya. She’s older but, she’s northern, has brown hair and Theon knows her true identity so it fits. Ramsay would have to do things to make her afraid to marry him though. Ick. We definitely need to see that Ramsay is a threat to the whold north, not just an enemy of Theon.

  45. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Davidbc,

    That’s an interesting idea. Ramsay is suspected of killing Domeric and Mance and the spearwives adamantly deny being involved in the killing of Little Walder even though they did the rest of the murders. That could actually work.

  46. John
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor:
    Also, it’s entirely possible Tommen was missing last season because… Tommen didn’t happen to be in any scenes last season. Nothing more. I mean granted it is a tad odd and the realm of child actors can indeed be a somewhat more fickle one but this is the show that just surprised us with Dontos’ Tony Way return, after all.

    He should have been at his uncle’s wedding!

  47. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Either Edric Dayne or just a small unknown role. Cant imagin anything else shot in iceland.

  48. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    JamesL: Michel, Ramsay didn’t strip Theon naked and then hunt him down with a crossbow in the show so I don’t see how it would be repetitive. Ramsay never even hunted Theon in the show he just tricked him. I pretty sure I remember something in ADWD about Theon befriending some girl while being captive and then helping her escape but she gets hunted down by Ramsay. I hope to see something like that in the show.

    This. Why dont people see it this way. Ramsay need to be shown even more crazy and psycho then he is. Trust me its no where near book Ransay yet. And there was never a hunt scene so i Dont know why people keep saying they already did that. The boy didnt hunt him the other men did. Now we will see a truly Psychopathic Ramsay.

  49. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    Just like with that young girl who was cast a couple of weeks ago, this kid will likely just be a bit part that wasn’t even in the books.

  50. jentario
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Just like with that young girl who was cast a couple of weeks ago, this kid will likely just be a bit part that wasn’t even in the books.

    Or maybe both will be CotF.

  51. spacechampion
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    I think its possible they’re adding a lot of Arya storyline from Clash of Kings and Storm of Swords back into the story for this season (Weasel soup, with BWB instead of Glover’s army), so perhaps this kid is Edric Dayne.

  52. sunspear
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    I don’t see a motive to re-cast Tommen. Was there a problem with the actor? I never noticed anything wrong with him.

    Tommen needs to be young enough that he can’t consummate his marriage with Margaery.

  53. dizzy
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    I’m stoked for the return of Dontos. Edric Dayne would be cool for that kid.

  54. mariamb
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Just like with that young girl who was cast a couple of weeks ago, this kid will likely just be a bit part that wasn’t even in the books.

    Exactly – a bit part.

    Jon Blackfyre: This. Why dont people see it this way. Ramsay need to be shown even more crazy and psycho then he is. Trust me its no where near book Ransay yet. And there was never a hunt scene so i Dont know why people keep saying they already did that. The boy didnt hunt him the other men did. Now we will see a truly Psychopathic Ramsay.

    Agreed. TV Ramsay has not hit the lows of Book Ramsay yet. I’m still laughing about the sausage scene. For me to stop enjoying Iwan Rheon’s performance, TV Ramsay needs to do some of the horrors that Book Ramsay does. Hunting/flaying poor Myranda will bring him to the proper level of psychopath.

  55. Yago
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 5:13 pm | Permalink

    @ people saying Ned Dayne, how? The only time he appeared in the books has already passed.

  56. The Kingshaver
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Long GRRM interview over on IO9 if folks are interested.

    observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845

  57. Cary Storm
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Yago:
    @ people saying Ned Dayne, how? The only time he appeared in the books has already passed.

    Nope, not true.

  58. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Was that confirmed? Not the baby part, the not coming back part.

  59. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi,

    Nothing very official, but this is this comment on Twitter. I feel like I saw her mention something to that effect before as well, but I don’t remember the specific tweet or how long ago it was.

  60. WildSeed
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    Omar Brown:
    I have a feeling Tommen might be re-cast this season. As the young man who played him last season was missing completely.

    I miss Tommen’s character onscreen as I did from reading the books. However I’m
    puzzled by your assumption he may be re-cast, as a result of an infrequent appearance.
    He wasn’t noted onscreen in season three, do you mean, for upcoming season 4 ?
    I’d wager that this young man either has school studies & other projects for the
    down time, just as Aiden Gillen ( Littlefinger ) , Little Robert & Lysa Tully-Aryn,
    and Myrcella, whom either took lengthy breaks last season or a very long hiatus.

    Until further notice, he’s likely still up for the role. Even if it’s a snippet like Rickon
    did at the Queenscrown. There are plenty of cats left that Joffrey did not kill already.

  61. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Aw, shame (though good for her!). Thanks.

  62. WildSeed
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Probably. He could blend in anywhere…. Braavos, North, South, anywhere.
    Definitely not likely Edric, since Gendry’s story absorbs his, nor the COTF.

  63. Roger König
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    Edric Dayne!Can’t be anyone else.

    Thats exactly what i was thinking, while reading this. :)

  64. Adrian
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 6:28 pm | Permalink

    I hope they Shyamalan twist us all and he’s a Bran recast.

    Isaac has not cooperated with the production by aging at a freakish rate.

  65. John
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 6:32 pm | Permalink
  66. Chickenduck
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    I vote for both of these young guys being COTF, if they do indeed have some of Bran’s ADWD material at the end of S4.

  67. Darquemode
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    Adrian,

    Ha! XD
    That made me think …. maybe the sires will end with a Newhart like twist and Ned Stark will wake up with Catelyn beside him before Robert arrived in Winterfell) and say, “I had this strange dream. I was the Hand of the King and tried to run the Seven Kingdoms as everyone else conspired and cheated and lied. Everyone died!”

  68. Yago
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    Euh, yes it is? Last and only time he appeared was when Arya was traveling with the BwB.

  69. House Snow
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    fake arya?

  70. Awful Awful Knight
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:15 pm | Permalink

    If there are parts of AFFC brought into next season (and really, all of Ramsay and Theon are already from ADWD, so maybe), then I suppose he could possibly be Jaime’s squire Peck

  71. Omar Brown
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Why would they need to re-cast Tommen? It’s brought up everytime we hear about some kid being cast.

    He was fine, but he will still look very young when he inherits the throne. I hear he has grown a lot and so has the kid that played Robin Arryn.

  72. Jentario
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    The Kingshaver:
    Long GRRM interview over on IO9 if folks are interested.

    observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845

    Thanks for that!

  73. WildSeed
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck:
    I vote for both of these young guys being COTF, if they do indeed have some of Bran’s ADWD material at the end of S4.

    You do realize that the CotF are not really children, but called that because of their
    short stature. The official narration extra presented from one of the HBO DVD’s,
    described ( by Bran ) as being short, brown and somewhat wild in appearance.
    The First Men regarded them as ” child-like ” in appearance. That withstanding,
    the onscreen depiction may indeed cast youth in these roles, as the rumored
    casting of ” Leaf ” may imply. I’m still not convinced that these characters will
    be added to the production. though, It may be that only those immediate to
    Bran’s story are relevant .

    Since Arya skipped the trips to High Heart and Acorn Hill, the only known
    smallfolk female scene was deleted. Still, GoT may decide to do an honorable
    mention somewhere, where Bran’s journey North Beyond the Wall
    is concerned.

    Did I mention that I’m an official COTF spokesperson , no ?
    Sorry, descendants of the First Men and Andals in general are not permitted for
    membership. Must be less than 5 feet tall, and nut brown in complexion. Annual
    Menbership fee around $ 50. , LOL.

  74. ColdPie
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    Could it be the boy Arya met in Harrenhal from Clash of Kings? Not that it has to be the same character, but didn’t she meet someone there who was the son of Jon’s wetnurse I’ve only read the books once so I don’t remember everything.

  75. Utiz4321
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    Hey does anyone know if dolorous edd and grenn are dead in the show or not. Couldn’t tell, a quote from stannis made it look like everyone on the great ranging died except samwell. If any one knows it the actor that played them are returning next season that would be great.

  76. Lady of Highgarden
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:07 pm | Permalink

    Utiz4321,

    Well, they didn’t appear in that in memoriam video, so I’d say they’re alive :)

  77. WildSeed
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    Edric Dayne!Can’t be anyone else.

    Admire your certainty, with respect to speculation about uncertain characters, LOL.

    I wonder though, if the production calls for more travel between Sandor and Arya,
    tracing the route that the Brotherhood Without Banners took. If that proves to be
    true, then we may actually meet Edric, while still traversing the Riverlands.
    Stranger still, that he remained loyal as Beric’s squire, yet would meet up
    separately , if only for the sake of making Arya’s acquaintance.

    Truth be known, I’m clueless if S4 makes more use of Dondarrion, although
    his BWOB aren’t likely written off as yet.

  78. Turncloak
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    John,

    Awesome read!

  79. Chickenduck
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:23 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Yeah, I know. I think it’d be cool to cast them as overly-mature children though. If I were D&D, my first priority with the COTF would be to avoid them looking like standard fantasy elves or dwarves etc… Keep away from the Tolkien tropes. So creepily mature kids might be the way to go.

    That said, Octavia is a dancer rather than an actor, so she might just be a random featured performer in Joff’s wedding scene or something.

  80. WildSeed
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    So far, Thorne, Slynt, Lysa and Rorge are reprising their long absent roles,
    for season four.

  81. Chickenduck
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    John:
    http://observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845#

    Nice interview doran might be cast and the snakes too!!!

    That interview is fantastic! George seems like he’d be a fun guy to just hang out with. Very switched on – the notes about how everyone in English history being Edward in George is a fair point… I’ve thought of that exact same thing before when reading about all the super common Northern Westerosi names like Brandon, Eddard and Rickon etc.

    Also found it interesting that he called Victarion a “brutal dullard”.

    And this quote about the internet controversy about Pedro Pascal’s as the RV:

    “I always pictured Oberyn Martell in my head as a — what I call a Mediterranean type. I know people attacked me for that by saying “He’s ignorant, he doesn’t know that Africa is on the Mediterranean.” No, I know Africa is on the Mediterranean. But in common parlance, when you say Mediterranean you are thinking Greek, Italian, Spanish. When you are thinking Moroccan or Tunisian that’s North African. That’s the way people talk about that.

    I always pictured the Martells and the salty Dornishman as Mediterraneans, so the casting I think is perfectly appropriate with what I wrote in the books.”

    But none of us really want to get into that discussion again, do we? ;P

  82. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    That is not true. Her resume states acting credits as well. Not huge big name roles, but still. She’s not JUST a dancer.

  83. WildSeed
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    John:
    http://observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845#

    Nice interview doran might be cast and the snakes too!!!

    This should be a required for any ASOIAF Nerdist. As for his predictions of Game
    of Thrones……. we’ll see. Casting for Doran Martell and Oberyn’s daughters
    are something to look forward to, though.

  84. Chickenduck
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere:
    Chickenduck,

    That is not true. Her resume states acting credits as well. Not huge big name roles, but still. She’s not JUST a dancer.

    OK, point taken. I should have said “primarily” a dancer – her website is focussed on her being a ballet prodigy.

  85. WildSeed
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck: But none of us really want to get into that discussion again, do we? ;P

    No, not at present. GRRM breathes life into his characters and fantastical things
    because of his gift of prose. His real life influences are something all together
    different. Given his realistic sense of working with film networks about script
    and budget, it’s also likely he realizes the limits as well as rewards. If the COTF
    were perceived as pale complexioned toddlers, by Benioff and Weiss, then that’s
    what the audience would get to see. At the end of the day, the scene may prove to
    appropriate, if different.

  86. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    about that i09 interview. Interestin that he says “what Jon’s arc is GONNA be.” confirmation he isn’t dead?

  87. Arthur
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    The only casting related type news that will totally get me bouncing off the walls is when we get our 1st look at how Pedro will appear as The Red Viper…

    Can’t wait to see the Martell crest and just how D&D will make his clothing appear since he is from a much different culture.

    When he rides up to Tyrion’s welcoming convoy it’ll be amazing to see House Martell flags flowing in the wind and just to see how his armor/clothes will look…

    I can’t freaking wait!

  88. Boojam
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    I don’t see a motive to re-cast Tommen. Was there a problem with the actor? I never noticed anything wrong with him.

    I had not even noticed that Callum Wharry was not in season 3!
    He’s not busy, so expect to see him back.

    Well…. Eugene Simon vanished season 3 with nary a word about Lancel’s whereabouts.
    Simon has commented he would like to be back.

    Myrcella Baratheon is still around by ADwD but I really have to wonder if her small subplot will even survive.

    Well I was surprised to see both Patrick Malahide and Peter Vaughan back last season , tho that must have been a one day shoot for them.

  89. Turncloak
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    That kid is definitely playing Strong Belwas

  90. Prince of Pentos
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    No idea, but he could also be one of Tormund’s sons, considering his role is in Iceland… Although it’s probably a bit too early for that. Tormund’s boys are only introduced in ADwD, right?

  91. House baratheon
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    I really think this kid could be one of the children of the forest. He has those big cat eyes

  92. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if it’s been brought up but there was an interview with David Bradley and he said he was doing a bit in season 4:

    “I don’t know what the future is on ‘Game of Thrones,’ ” Bradley said. “I was on Season 1 and I’m just finishing Season 3 and I’m moving on to Season 4 now, but whether I’ll be thereabouts (going forward) I just don’t know. It would be nice, but I just don’t know yet.”

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/19/showbiz/comic-con-game-of-thrones

  93. Unbowd UnbentUnHodor
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    I love how they bring back the actors of roles even if they didnt have a big part!
    Not many shows do that and i hope the non book readers recognize and remember the characters.
    It was awesome how they brought back Yara, Balon, Pyp and Maester Aemon. And that they are continuing to do that as the seasons progress

  94. Lex
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    John:
    http://observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845#

    Nice interview doran might be cast and the snakes too!!!

    Oh, poor GRRM. It’s clear he read all the brutal comments over here (and on tumblr) attacking him, even for his use of the words “Mediterranean”, “African”, etc., and now the poor guy is so afraid, he keeps hesitating over his words, which he calls “land mines”.

    I guess some people are probably happy about this, but I just feel embarrassed for the fandom.

  95. Cary Storm
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Permalink
  96. Cary Storm
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Another possibility might be that Edric Dayne take on the role the of Gendry in the ever more likely up and coming Lady Stoneheartstory arc

  97. Cary Storm
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 11:33 pm | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere,

    I think even what you have left unhidden can be construed as spoiler.

  98. Song of Ice & Scotch
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 11:57 pm | Permalink

    I’d be curious to know whether the actor that plays The Hound is filming in Iceland, as well. Wasn’t there a sighting of him in Belfast? If he’s wrapped his filming already, I suppose we know that Arya’s departure to Braavos will probably happen early-ish in the season.

  99. Adrian
    Posted July 23, 2013 at 11:59 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    Tumblr is embarrassing, as a general rule. Full of people who want so desperately to considered enlightened or progressive and not racist that they inevitably degenerate into full blown discrimination and racism. They’ve decided who it’s ok to hate and wish death upon for no reason, all the while crying about how you shouldn’t judge people or discriminate against them for being how they were born.

    Of course, as a heterosexual white male, I need to “check my privilege,” and by the unfortunate accident of being born a heterosexual white male, my opinion is immediately invalid, and I’m a bad person.

  100. Arthur
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Song of Ice & Scotch,

    I hope not!

    I’d be happy if D&D stretched out the Arya with The Hound storyline. They are such an awesome dual to watch.

    I still love that scene when Arya kills those Frey campers and The Hound looks around and is just like “next time tell me first” and only seems a little angry when he finds out Arya used his eating knife…

    I would love to see more of their adventures together…

    “Arya and The Hound” -even sounds badass

  101. Arthur
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    A lot of people always talk about how the child actors are getting to old and don’t match the book characters anymore because they are or will become so much older…

    I say so what, it’s not the books it’s the TV show. I also think it’s really cool to watch a child actor like Maisie Williams go from teen to young woman and I really think this growth can be used by D&D to emphasize the changes and growth all these characters have went through.

    I don’t know, I just think it’s a good thing and the TV show can easily adapt the fact these child actors are getting older and use that fact to strengthen and add even more meaning to their storylines…

    Can anyone imagine how cool Maisie will look as Arya 5 years from now dressed like a badass assassin in leather with daggers and a bow and blow darts and shit… Lol…

  102. WildSeed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 1:47 am | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    That kid is definitely playing Strong Belwas

    LMAO. Hope he keeps up with those spicy fried honeyed locusts….mmm… good !

  103. WildSeed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 1:53 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    WildSeed,

    Another possibility might be that Edric Dayne take on the rolethe of Gendry in the ever more likely up and coming Lady Stoneheartstory arc

    Sounds like CrackPot Theories……. those give me a headache. *>*

    I guess it wouldn’t hurt to include one son named Edric on board,
    especially since the probability of Edric Storm ‘s role is now
    blended into Gendry’s storyline.

    How about you, are you up for performing a cameo appearance, anywhere onscreen ?

  104. WildSeed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 1:59 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    Hmmm……… Maisie, Sophie, Issac, Lino….. have all matured and much taller
    than they were in season one. Why do these children age and we do not ?, LOL.
    Even if their roles were lengthy or intermittent, I still recollect their youthful
    qualities and the character they’re linked to.

    I’ve given up on guessing ages of children anymore, they grow too fast now.
    Much different when I was young.

  105. WildSeed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:12 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Yeah, that would be cool, and practical. There are plenty of child actors with
    amazing talent and precocious for their years. I would definitely be open to
    the idea, yet I’m unsure how GoT would utilize their talent in a way that
    benefits the story. It would be a contrast for certain from the snot nosed
    Flea Bottom kids or pretentious high borns we’ve seen ( not Rickon ).
    I just don’t wish they were a caricature , but a fine tuned mature presence. A
    scene like that takes finesse. I wish Broder-Sanger were younger, he’d be
    awesome and svengali -like, but I insist he gets a tan and dons twigs in his hair (:

  106. Bryon
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:38 am | Permalink

    Dontos!

    Will we hear him call someone Jonquil? I hope so.

    Not sure who Brennock is casted as, only can speculate. Hope we get more casting news through out the week.

  107. mags giantsbabe
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:50 am | Permalink

    In the interview with GRRM, he also gives a fairly good explanation for the reason for all the coloured slaves in the last episode from a filming perspective.

    On another point, when he talks about writing for “evil” characters”, mentioning people who are so convinced by one religious truth, that it turns them into monsters for example, I thought of Rhaegar. I’m still undecided as to what I believe about his motivations or true character. Him and Howland Reed are my favourite background characters, if you will and I really want to believe that Rhaegar was simply a deeply flawed and tragic character like Robert, but I guess we will only find this out towards the end, if it is important.

  108. Chickenduck
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 5:41 am | Permalink

    WildSeed,

    Maybe a visual concept that could work is if you take the CoTF, but replace “Forest” with “Corn”.

    Especially since it’s unclear whether they are a force for good or evil. Like, whether Bran is doing an Anakin. Branakin as it were.

    It’s also interesting that GRRM said in the interview that Bran’s storyline was one of the ones that could have worked fine with the 5 year gap – leaving the “training period” off the page. So his story obviously has long-term implications. And ditto for Arya’s training journey…

  109. Jentario
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck:
    WildSeed,

    Maybe a visual concept that could work is if you take the CoTF, but replace “Forest” with “Corn”.

    Especially since it’s unclear whether they are a force for good or evil.Like, whether Bran is doing an Anakin.Branakin as it were.

    It’s also interesting that GRRM said in the interview that Bran’s storyline was one of the ones that could have worked fine with the 5 year gap – leaving the “training period” off the page.So his story obviously has long-term implications.And ditto for Arya’s training journey…

    I think it means Bran’s story is far from over, unlike many fans believe. I’be always hated the idea that he’ll be stuck in a tree forever, and now it’s all but confirmed that this will not be the case.
    And thank god for that.

  110. Znalac
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:33 am | Permalink

    It’s Wex the mute

  111. Bard
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    John:
    http://observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845#

    Nice interview doran might be cast and the snakes too!!!

    @WiC: I think this is newsworthy, isn’t it?

  112. Jentario
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:50 am | Permalink

    ColdPie:
    Could it be the boy Arya met in Harrenhal from Clash of Kings? Not that it has to be the same character, but didn’t she meet someone there who was the son of Jon’s wetnurse I’veonly read the books once so I don’t remember everything.

    Edric Dayne was wet nursed by Jon’s “mother” Wylla, and he was the squire to Berric Dondarrion in A Storm of Swords. I personally don’t think we’ll see him in the show, but if we will it’s bound to happen in season 4.

  113. Bran The Builder
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:06 am | Permalink

    It would be really awesome if Vinnie Jones was cast in GoT. Hell, just make some character up for him. What say?

    Abyss:
    I have posted this before, but I think it fits right in here. Here is a little taste of Brenock O’Connors acting skills.

  114. Jentario
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    John:
    http://observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845#

    Nice interview doran might be cast and the snakes too!!!

    Interestingly, no mention of Quentyn or Arianne (who is arguably the main Dornish character). WTF GRRM?

  115. snossi
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:08 am | Permalink
  116. Arkash
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:18 am | Permalink

    Vinnie Jones in GoT would be amazing ! He’d be a perfect combination of all the Kettleblacks brothers !

  117. KG
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:30 am | Permalink

    So disappointed. I was hoping for James Purefoy as Edric Dayne.

    (obligatory)

  118. Turncloak
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:33 am | Permalink

    Jentario,

    It probably just slipped his mind. He does have a ton of characters

  119. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    Jentario,

    I would cut Quentyn if I was the one making the show. And I never really thought about who was the “main” Dornish character. It was just stuff that happened in Dorne, seen through her eyes, to me.

  120. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    By cut, I don’t mean cut his existence. I mean cut following him. He’d be spoken of but not really seen until he’s all nice and crispy

  121. Yago
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    I never said he was dead. I said he didn’t appear in the books after that. So there’s not really a point in casting him now…

  122. Boojam
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    Arthur:
    A lot of people always talk about how the child actors are getting to old and don’t match the book characters anymore because they are or will become so much older…

    I say so what, it’s not the books it’s the TV show.I also think it’s really cool to watch a child actor like Maisie Williams go from teen to young woman and I really think this growth can be used by D&D to emphasize the changes and growth all these characters have went through.

    I don’t know, I just think it’s a good thing and the TV show can easily adapt the fact these child actors are getting older and use that fact to strengthen and add even more meaning to their storylines…

    The interviewer seemed pointed towards asking GRRM about the show doing on the screen , de-facto, what he did not manage on the page, but wanted too!
    Didn’t get there.

  123. dizzy
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    KG,

    Now that’s funny.

  124. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    snossi:
    Both Maisie and Gwendoline are in Reykjavík.

    http://www.mbl.is/folk/frettir/2013/07/24/got_leikkonur_a_midbaejarrolti/

    Riverlands it is.

  125. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Odd request: can someone (with spoiler tags of course) list the characters we’re anticipating to kick the bucket next season? I’ve read the books (quite recently in fact) but I’m attempting to drum up the names right now and it’s a bit of a blur.

    I blame the weather.

  126. Lord Ned's head
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 10:00 am | Permalink

    The first role I thought of when I saw him was the kid on the boat on the way to Braavos

  127. Arthur
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    Tywin, Joff, Oberyn, Ygritte, Shae…

    I’m sure there is more I forgot but those are the main ones…

  128. AA
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Arthur:
    Jeff O’Connor,

    Tywin, Joff, Oberyn, Ygritte, Shae…

    I’m sure there is more I forgot but those are the main ones…

    The Hound, Lysa

  129. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 10:48 am | Permalink

    Thanks, you two!

  130. Dragen
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Lord Ned’s head,

    That’s what I tough as well.

  131. Arthur
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    AA,

    Lysa yes, The Hound no… Doesn’t Brienne run into him in that monk-like village? The leader states he’s dead, as in the man The Hound used to be is dead. But The Hound as a human is still alive, he just found peace and forgets his past in that monk-like village…

  132. Cary Storm
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Yago,

    Sorry, I read that “Edric Storm has already passed.” My bad. In any case, whether or not his time in the books is over is irrelevant. He’s a generally inconsequential character who can turn up for any purpose, and still may.

  133. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor,

    The Iceland article is citing the same pics of Maisie and Gwen we posted before. We’re way ahead of the curve here. :)

  134. Ramah
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Surely that little guy, Brennock, is the kid from the Haribo Tangfastic advert? He has the chops if his GoT part requires him to suck a lemon but I still think he was punching above his weight trying to snare the blonde girl with his sour sweets. :)

  135. AA
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:18 am | Permalink

    Arthur,

    I dunno, I guess I took it at face value when the Elder guy told Brienne he is dead. Looking at awoiaf, there seems to be plenty of ambiguity and fan theories, so I could be very off.

    For the purposes of the show, I expect the hound to disappear, at least for a while, by the end of Season 4.

  136. moophasa
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Znalac,

    Wouldn’t that be cool! Given that Rickon and Osha are likely going on a somewhat extended tour of the North (probably with Ramsey hunting them), I would be surprised if we get the Davos/White Harbour scene in Season 4. When it does come I hope they do it justice. “The North Remembers!” is one of the best, most gratifying moments in the books IMO.

  137. Arkash
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    You can make a new article with the recent interviews of GRRM on io9 and Conan Stevens on HBOwatch.

  138. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Jeff O’Connor:
    Thanks, you two!

    Getting more granular…

    Gregor Clegane
    Ser Dontos
    And if they’re cast….
    Donal Noye
    the Magnar of Thenn
    A whole load of wildings and a few members of the NW

  139. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Jeff O’Connor,

    The Iceland article is citing the same pics of Maisie and Gwen we posted before. We’re way ahead of the curve here. :)

    You should add David Bradley to the ‘confirmation of returns’ segment. Looks like we’ll be getting some new Walder material.

  140. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Jeff O’Connor,

    The Iceland article is citing the same pics of Maisie and Gwen we posted before. We’re way ahead of the curve here. :)

    Hehe, so you are! So you are, so you are.

    And thanks for the continuing replies to my deathly question, folks!

  141. dizzy
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Even more granular (but not really)
    Pollivar, Dunson…Masha Heddle…Merrett Frey

  142. ebevan91
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh: You should add David Bradley to the ‘confirmation of returns’ segment. Looks like we’ll be getting some new Walder material.

    Which is great because I love that bastard.

  143. bufkus
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    I bet they recast Tommen

  144. bufkus
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Jentario: Interestingly, no mention of Quentyn or Arianne (who is arguably the main Dornish character). WTF GRRM?

    They are both cut from the tv show

  145. Jentario
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    bufkus: They are both cut from the tv show

    So you say. I can see Quentyn being cut (hell, it’s even necessary) but without Arianne you might as well cut Dorne altogether.

  146. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    bufkus: They are both cut from the tv show


    We dont know that for sure. Arianne/Doran likely to show up in Season 5. Quentyn arc I can see cutting entirely, yes.

  147. PhoenixDark
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Anyone else believe that introducing Arianne this year would make a lot of sense, and save time in the future? Having her accompany the Red Viper to King’s Landing would make a lot of sense.

  148. Shan
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber:
    Maybe he’d be the squire at the inn.

    Or more than likely, he’s “kid who shows up for a scene.”

    Anyone wonder if D&D have kept a tighter lid on the casting stuff after the ridiculous whinefest that broke out from the Pedro Pascal news?

    … you think people will be less upset about dumb casting choices if they find out about them six months later?

  149. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    PhoenixDark: Anyone else believe that introducing Arianne this year would make a lot of sense, and save time in the future? Having her accompany the Red Viper to King’s Landing would make a lot of sense.

    I think so to. I know i have said that on a few posts. But yeah you have to start to build her character and theres no reason she couldnt come to kings landing and leave after the trial

  150. monsieurxander
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad that Myranda’s back. Those two women seemed to genuinely enjoy the ruse; it wasn’t just a job for them. I wonder if we’ll get a little bit more depth from them.

  151. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    and how can you cut quinten. we dont even know the effects his actions have on the story line but i have to believe they will have some sort of lasting consequence. yeah his story might of been a little boring but they can flavor it up of add it to another storyline across the narrow see

  152. dizzy
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Jon Blackfyre,

    Well the only thing of consequence he did was set the dragons loose. Unless the people in his entourage become bigger players I don’t see how eliminating him would impact the story overall. I can see the show setting the warlocks or anyone of the multiple enemies Dany makes do this.

  153. Cary Storm
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    monsieurxander:
    I’m glad that Myranda’s back. Those two women seemed to genuinely enjoy the ruse; it wasn’t just a job for them. I wonder if we’ll get a little bit more depth from them.

    Plus, Myranda is a nice name for a dog!

  154. Ashara D
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    I hope that he is Edric Dayne. As my name implies, I am a huge Dayne fan and am convinced that they are the key to finding out Jon’s parentage and decoding the prophesies. Plus, I’d love to see what this kid and Maisie can do in a scene together!

  155. Jarin Udom
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if they’d bring Wilko Johnson back. According to his Facebook page, he seems to be in pretty good spirits despite the terminal cancer and is touring around.

  156. kris
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Not even going to speculate about the boy but I am incredibly excited that they are bringing back Tony Way.

    The whole Ser Dontos/Sansa stuff is a great segue into her escape with Littlefinger. I am kind of hoping they let Sansa’s faith in Ser Dontos marinate a bit, like in the books. This show rushes plots, so I hope we get a chance to see why she thinks he is her “savior”, then slowly discover its another dead end. Literally.

  157. nyanmiau
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    What about Ellaria? Does someone knows if she’s going to be in the show at all?

  158. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    kris,

    It will be difficult to let her faith in him ‘marinate’ when the PW and Sansa’s escape likely will happen in the first 4-5 episodes.

  159. Ed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 5:38 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, but he could very well have a mustache at this point.

    Maybe this kid will be Robyn?

    Jeff O’Connor: It would be groovy to have confirmation on this. That kid sold “Robyn” very well.

  160. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    Tony Way’s return is an unwelcome surprise, he’s not the right actor for Ser Dontos.

    Oh great more unnecessary Theon scenes where they’ll have an excuse to show some naked females, smh.

  161. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Do you smile like this :( ?

  162. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:23 pm | Permalink

    nyanmiau,

    Yes, WiC heard some time ago from our own sources that Ellaria is in. We don’t know who has been cast though.

  163. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Forgive me for not wanting to kiss the show’s ass and think of every decision they make as perfect like most here seem to think.

  164. Stacey L Toth
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    Well, what about Trystane Martell, Myrcella’s betrothed?

  165. George
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    What about Davos’ son Devan – he is Stannis’ squire so it makes sense that he could have more of a part coming up next season.

  166. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    It’s one thing to be a kiss ass, it’s another to claim that season 4 is ruined because of the casting choice for the Red Viper. I like to judge the finished product. If that makes me a kiss ass then let me grab some lipstick.

  167. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    George,

    Davos only had one son in the show.

  168. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I never declared S4 ruined.

    My favorite character from the books won’t live up to my expectations though, Oded Fehr is always going to be my Red Viper.

  169. WildSeed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Lex: Oh, poor GRRM. It’s clear he read all the brutal comments over here (and on tumblr) attacking him, even for his use of the words “Mediterranean”, “African”, etc., and now the poor guy is so afraid, he keeps hesitating over his words, which he calls “land mines”.

    I guess some people are probably happy about this, but I just feel embarrassed for the fandom.

    I took the time today to thoroughly read this candid interview. It would appear that
    each opportunity that George takes to elaborate on his writing process, new or
    clearer insights emerge from the experience. I really enjoy his sharing and engaging
    readers, and allowing some scope of knowledge for the collaborative film media
    world. I appreciate more his willingness to offer explanation, but also caution
    and correction too, despite readers or viewers opinions of his intent for the
    ASOIAF series. He clarified well, the differences in book and televised characters,
    both in how these differ but also bring certain qualitiesl in each form. For example,
    the maturity of Margaery , from her book role, whereas Dormer is more like Marg
    10 years in the future ( not physical looks ), Or the audiences dismissal or adulation
    for Theon or Jaime, rather than discern their true nature from what has been written.
    Onscreen Jaime, IMO, has acquired an earlier account of ” redemption” or
    “atonement “, far sooner than events have determined. Some fans decided early on
    to accept or condemn certain characters or families, without the benefit of weighing
    man’s dual nature.

    He spoke of his commitment to finish the series, reflecting an inward pride for
    quality and high merit.

    In all 13 pages , the controversy regarding casting onscreen Oberyn ( or any other ),
    appeared on page 8, continuing 1/8th page later, hardly worth attributing the entire
    interview to. I’m continually give him props for addressing grumbling fans or
    questions about his direct work, but Mr Martin here is clearly responding to fan
    emotional reactions, rather than elective world history. Don’t get me wrong, he’s
    very politically aware, and appreciates historic reference, however the response
    was to find appeasement, rather than teach.

    In all I had no sense of, poor GRRM, he spoke from a strong sense of conviction
    and passion for his work, and appreciation for his fans. I hope he gets to work on
    eventually, those shelved projects in his office. Who knows, maybe an 8th book.

  170. WildSeed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Agreed.

  171. WildSeed
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    I wonder if we’ll get to witness more of Ramsey’s cruelty towards all things.
    The dogs, as you likely remember, bore female names of the women
    he’d tortured or murdered
    .

  172. Baramos
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Edric Dayne?

  173. KG
    Posted July 24, 2013 at 11:49 pm | Permalink

    dizzy,

    0- :)

  174. John
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    http://io9.com/george-r-r-martin-answers-our-toughest-song-of-ice-and-886133300 This is the original interview.
    Now this is major spoiler/prediction from top interview (for future of a character)
    http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/19031/20130723/winds-winter-spoilers-game-thrones-jon-snow.htm. So is John snow alive? And is arya and tyrion future not so great?

  175. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:13 am | Permalink

    Crackpot theory:

    He vaguely resembles Bran/Rickon. Maybe they are replacing fake Arya with fake Bran/Rickon and are going to do an angle where gay marriage is made legal in Westeros to reflect modern day western societies…

  176. jentario
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:51 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    You have got to be kidding. I refuse to believe otherwise XD

  177. jentario
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    John,

    Not that I think Jon is dead (or will stay dead for long) but that is NOT any sort of hint or confirmation that he’s alive. Do you really need it at this point?

  178. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    jentario,
    Of course. Now for a serious suggestion that I don’t think has come up yet:
    the boy on Arya’s ship to Braavos. I believe that Arya’s season 4 arc will end with her ship nearing Braavos so that boy is entirely possible.

  179. Hodoreo
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    This has to be Edric Dayne in my opinion. I think it’s important to establish the mystery around Jon Snow’s parentage seeing as how it wasn’t mentioned since Season 1. The story about Jon and Edric being milk brothers would be nice to see.

  180. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    That new photo surely makes me think of Edric Dayne, but my money is still on him playing the young squire with Tickler and Polliver that Arya kills with her freshly reclaimed Needle.

  181. Ashara D
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    Hodoreo,

    Agree! <3 Lots of love to you!

  182. Arkash
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Strongly possible ! Nice idea !

  183. Carne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
  184. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Beautiful casting!

  185. Courtjezter
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Just heard Indies Varma has been cast as Solaris Sand.

  186. Courtjezter
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Bloody autocorrect. And 3 minutes late.

  187. loco73
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:00 am | Permalink

    Welcome to the cast young man! Good luck to you!

  188. Hodoreo
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 4:59 am | Permalink

    Ashara D,

    Although now that I think about it, wouldn’t Edric and Jon have to be the same age? Kit Harrington has about 13 years on this actor. It made sense in the book because Jon Snow is much younger, i’m not sure how they could make it work.

  189. Amarien
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Any chance that this might be Edric Dayne? I know in the books Arya runs into Edric Dayne while shes with tBwoB because hes Berics squire however, we know David and Dan are by no means going in chronological order with the sub plots.. Plus seeing how there has been little to no mention about the Daynes on the show this far maybe this will help in getting the “tv audience” thinking about the Dayne’s

  190. georgia
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    maybe him and the little girl they cast is young benjen and lyanna in brans vision

  191. Direhound
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 11:16 pm | Permalink

    His CV lists him as “Boy in Hamlet” and not referring to the Shakespeare play.

  192. Nate
    Posted July 31, 2013 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    Could he be Davos’s son Devan , squire to King Stannia

  193. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 31, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Direhound,

    That wasn’t listed on his CV before. It must’ve been updated since the 23rd when the post was started. Mystery solved, sort of. So he’s a boy in a small town, presumably in the Riverlands since I doubt there’s a hamlet seen in the Vale. Most likely someone Arya meets, I would say.

  194. Jens
    Posted August 3, 2013 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    If he’s shooting in Iceland I’m going with Wex Pyke.

    Or maybe Sigorn … long shot. too young.

    If not iceland then he could be various other characters.


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