Indira Varma cast as Ellaria Sand
By Winter Is Coming on in Casting, News.

Indira VarmaMore casting news, hot off the presses! James Hibberd of Entertainment Weekly has reported that Indira Varma will join the cast as Ellaria Sand in season 4 of Game of Thrones. Ellaria Sand is the paramour of Prince Oberyn Martell aka “The Red Viper”, who was also recently cast. She will accompany her lover when he arrives in King’s Landing this season.

Indira Varma should be familiar to fans of HBO’s Rome as she played Niobe, the wife of Kevin McKidd’s Lucius Vorenus. She is the third Rome veteran to join the cast, following in the footsteps of Ciarán Hinds and Tobias Menzies who were added last season. Like most of the cast, her acting roots are in theater but she has since moved into television. In addition to her starring turn on Rome, Varma has also appeared in Bones, Luther and Human Target.

Winter Is Coming: I love this casting. Varma was great in Rome and she will make a fantastic Ellaria. Not much else to say other than welcome to the cast Indira!


535 Comments

  1. Grijnwaald
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:31 pm | Permalink

    Hodor

    And I’m out of here! Grijnwaald awaaaayy

  2. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Omar

    GoT finally is getting some hot “of age” females again! Great choice and my personal pick for the role. Go me.

  3. Carne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:32 pm | Permalink

    Happy to see a fan favorite getting cast! And more Rome alumni!

    Looking good for Ray Stevenson (Victarion), Kevin McKidd (Jon Connington) and Ian McNeice (Wyman Manderly) :)

  4. AJN
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    Grijnwaald:
    Hodor

    *echo* Hodor

  5. Seven Hells Bells
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Awesome. Rome was nearly perfectly casted, loved all the characters. Atia would’ve been a better Cersei than the 300 chick in my opinion

  6. Michel
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Great! She really looks like Ellaria from some arts in the internet…

    Now I’m just waiting for them to cast Ray Stevenson who is also from Rome as Victarion Greyjoy.

  7. Vikestad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Great cast. Was one the fan suggestions that made sense and I backed it 100 %.

  8. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Basically running around my kitchen screeching in happiness, so yeah, I approve of this casting. She’s been my pick for the role for years.

  9. Roadpfarrer
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    I second that.

  10. Seven Hells Bells
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Man, would love to see Ray Stevenson on the show. He’s my choice for Euron. He would suit the eye patch well

  11. Direhound
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Love it

  12. sannael
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    GREAT CHOICE!
    She’s certainly got that Dornish look and I’m sure she’ll nail it as Ellaria. Can’t wait to see her up against Cersei.

  13. A Secret Baratheon
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    *waits for the inevitable “she’s too Caucasian” backlash…*

  14. Michel
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    I never thaught Kevin as Griff because I always imagined him more older, like in his fifties, but I would love it!

  15. RealZazzyG
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Always good to have another Rome alum on the show especially if it means we can get Purefoy, Stevenson or McKidd somewhere in the future.

  16. AJM
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    OH MY GOD THIS IS SUCH A RACIST CASTING!

  17. nomisum
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    great choice. i loved her in rome and look forward seeing her again.

  18. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Oooh. I like this. She’s beautiful, and has a great face, the kind of lived-in look of someone who has a great understanding of the world. If the Sand Snakes come into the picture too, she’ll make a great contrast to what will be more than likely their younger, more impetuous look.

  19. OtherAndrew
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    I bet they’ll expand the role. Could eventually use her to replace some or all of the Sand Snakes, too, though that would fundamentally change Ellaria’s character.

  20. The Rabbit
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Perfect choice!!!

  21. DarkRavenous
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    This is a great casting choice. She was amazing in Rome and will no doubt be perfect in this role. Beautiful choice.

  22. M
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    -peeks out of hideyhole- Is…is the fandom happy yet?

  23. Hear Me Roar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Me too :) This is just great!

  24. Rhys
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    I never thought she was that great in Rome but I’m still pleased to see her cast here. No doubt she’ll do tremendously. Looks about the right age to match up to Pascal too.

  25. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Seven Hells Bells:
    Carne,

    Man, would love to see Ray Stevenson on the show. He’s my choice for Euron. He would suit the eye patch well

    Interesting, I see him more as Victarion.

  26. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    I want her to have my babies.

  27. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    RealZazzyG:
    Always good to have another Rome alum on the show especially if it means we can get Purefoy,Stevenson or McKidd somewhere in the future.

    Please do not turn this into another “Where is James Purefoy” conversation.

  28. Strongboar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    So great : the actress and also the fact that Ellaria is cast. I believe it’s not possible to dislike this casting.

    Compared to the book, her role will probably be extended, don’t you think ? maybe combined with some sand snakes.

  29. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    She was great in Rome, and also in Luther. Great casting.

    So, Ray Stevenson (Victarion) and Kevin McKidd (J. Connington) next? :)

  30. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Ray for Vic, Jason Isaacs for Euron.

    Omar Comin’ Yo.

  31. King DBC
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Ahhhh, hells yeah! Indira has been the fancast in my mind forever! Awesome! I’m so stoked right now!!!

  32. Lex
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Cool! More Rome alumni = always a good thing.

  33. Old_Gran
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Indira looks really good. Now I’m getting excited for next season and it’s only July!

  34. Bard
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Perfect. Period. :)

  35. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Seriously doubt we see J Connington in Season 4. I see him as a minor part of Season 5, expanded more in 6.

  36. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    I’d prefer James Purefoy as Victarion and perhaps Ray Stevenson as Euron.

  37. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Aw yeah.

  38. CanIgetahellyeah!
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    \o/ Most exciting casting choice since Natalie Dormer.

  39. Felix
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    In my opinion, Purefoy was good but nothing special in Rome, and not so good in The Following. I don’t get why so many want him on Game of Thrones.

  40. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Yes, Stevenson can pull off the brutal dullard perfectly.

  41. Stone Cold Bastard
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Felix:
    In my opinion, Purefoy was god but nothing special in Rome, and not so good in The Killing. I don’t get why so many want him on Game of Thrones.

    Well, that’s just your opinion, and opinions are subjective. Regardless he’s pretty popular, so we’ll see what happens.

  42. Kroepian
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    “She is not truly beautiful, but something about her draws the eye”
    Sansa in a Storm of Swords

    well that is not true at all in this case. I saw her in Rome and Luthor. Just fantastic

  43. King DBC
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard:
    I’d prefer James Purefoy as Victarion and perhaps Ray Stevenson as Euron.

    Just the other way ’round…

  44. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Felix:
    In my opinion, Purefoy was god but nothing special in Rome, and not so good in The Killing. I don’t get why so many want him on Game of Thrones.

    Because they thought he was good.

    Purefoy or Mikkelson for Euron! :P

  45. Turncloak
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Im very excited about the word “Paramour” becoming a staple of the English Language lexicon :-)

  46. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Stone Cold Bastard,

    Victarion is a big brute. That role fits Stevenson like a glove.

  47. kurozukin
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    I’m actually surprised that they’re apparently not changing her name. They probably can’t change Elia’s name at this point, because IIRC she’s mentioned as Princess Elia in the S1 blu-ray animated histories. They’ve tended to be paranoid about confusing TV viewers with similarly-named characters, and even I sometimes get Elia and Ellaria mixed up (I typed “Elia” as “Ellaria” several times while typing this paragraph!)

  48. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Yay! She’s so lovely! Can’t wait to see Oberyn and Ellaria brought to life!

  49. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    kurozukin,

    Don’t give them any ideas.

  50. King DBC
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Kroepian,

    I know, Ellaria will now be giving Arienne a run for her looks in the show. (I’ve always assumed Arienne is reallyyy hot, not sure if I’m right???) But still, Indira is gorgeous.

  51. Vikestad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    bs. not that great of an actor for one, and he bears almost no reslemblance of any of the other greyjoys. don’t really want him in tbh.

  52. Pointy End
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Really excited about the casting. And she was in torchwood! But will she have much to do in GoT?

  53. Cary Storm
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Someone rescue me, I have the vapors over this. *swoon*

  54. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,
    Stone Cold Bastard,

    I think Stevenson would be perfect for Victarion because of his physicality and his ability to play a “straight forward” character. Purefoy would make the better Euron because he does evil, corrupt and scheming so well and he’s darker colored as Euron is supposed to be (right? Or am I misremembering?).

  55. Cary Storm
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    random conversation from wicgeeks

    Me: She dies in everything
    Me: She died twice in Torchwood
    Macha: She is the female Sean Bean

  56. Josh Parker
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Good call. Perfect.

    I agree that Stevenson would make a great Euron (and it wouldn’t require more than a handful of appearances, so it wouldn’t take up too much of his schedule, nor would it break GoT’s budget) but I still think David O’Hara IS Victarion.

  57. King DBC
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Seven Hells Bells,

    I honestly cannot see where you’re coming from, because Lena Headey is doing a pretty fucking amazing portrayal of Cersei. She’s one of the best, as in right up there close to Charles Dance as Tywin…

  58. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh CeanneidighPurefoy or Mikkelson for Euron! :P

    Mikkelsen, Mikkelsen, Mikkelsen, Mikkelsen!

    (I’m not partial at all! ^_^)

  59. Selmy
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Great casting!
    Can’t really remember her in Rome (need to re-watch) but she was excellent in Luther.
    And I can really picture her with Pedro Pascal. They look like they would make a great couple!
    Also I’m glad that the character of Ellaria is still in the show after it was suggested by some that Arrianne would be introduced this season at Oberyn’s side, replacing Ellaria.

    Not only is Ellaria an interesting character in her own right (I love that her presense upsets people at court because of her bastardy) but also it wouldn’t make sense for Arrianne to go to KL with the Viper because there’s no way Doran would let her and her rebellious side needs to come out later.

    So good news all round!

  60. mariamb
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    Congrats to all who suggested her for the role! I’m not familiar with her work but she looks like a perfect Ellaria.

    I am thrilled that the character is being included in the show. I hope that Oberyn and Ellaria’s arrival in KL – with all of their bannermen – is presented as it is in the books. I love that scene and can’t wait to see it on screen.

    One question: why is Hibberd getting all the GOT scoops lately? Has it been that way in the past?

  61. Tír Airgid
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Extatic about this. Still pinching myself. Wow. I guess fancasts sometimes come true!

  62. Carne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    mariamb,

    He’s been getting the scoops for as long as I can remember.

  63. Jen@House Stark
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Seven Hells Bells:
    Carne,

    Man, would love to see Ray Stevenson on the show. He’s my choice for Euron. He would suit the eye patch well

    Yes, Ray for Crow’s Eye, please! Nina, make it so. Oh yes, and this lady should be great in this role. Looking forward to seeing her as Ellaria.

  64. Josh Parker
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Seven Hells Bells,

    You realize that well before GoT was in the casting stage, Polly Walker (who you’re referring to) put on a fair bit of weight, right? She’s still beautiful, but she’s nowhere near thin enough for a role like Cersei now. Not to mention she’s too old.

  65. AA
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    I was flipping through the channels the other day and saw Mads Mikkelsen as a pirate in The Three Musketeers or something…Is that where all the fancasting is coming from? Cause he looked ridiculous and completely laughable.

    Excited about Indira Varma – can’t wait to see a set shot of her in costume along side Pedro

  66. Vikestad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Actually he hasn’t always gotten scoops like this. In any case it means the end of froggy I’m afraid.

  67. Lyanna_Targaryen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Back from vacation from The Land With No Internets, and I have all the ComicCon stuff to catch up on, PLUS this exciting news! Shit yeah!!!!

  68. mariamb
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Thanks. I must not have been paying attention to who was getting the scoops.

    Anyway, as long as casting info keeps coming, I don’t care how we get them.

  69. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    im down with the Ray Stevenson choice. They can use the whole cast of KING ARTHER. Clive Owen Ioan Gruffudd Mads Mikkelsen Joel Edgerton Hugh Dancy Ray Winstone Ray Stevenson Keira Knightley BOOM

  70. Felix
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh,

    But didn’t Purefoy say something about not wanting to be part of the show?

  71. moophasa
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    She seems perfect!

  72. Arthur
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    OMG!

    Loved her in Rome!!!

    She will be awesome!

  73. Carne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Vikestad,

    Oops, true, but in terms of major sites, I don’t think anyone else than EW has been getting scoops.

  74. desire
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Welcome to family Indira!!

  75. Cary Storm
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Felix:
    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh,
    But didn’t Purefoy say something about not wanting to be part of the show?

    Second hand information from Kevin McKidd. Also, probably being funny, not serious.

  76. Illuminatus
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Excellent news! A great actress who will also look effortlessly at home in the wardrobe as her Rome fans can attest.

    And for a change she should get a good, long run as a character. I was getting fed up with her popping up in great shows only to be killed off in 2 episodes. “Cool! It’s Niobe from Rome…aaaand she’s already dead.”

    Rome and Doctor Who/Torchwood continue to be fertile recruiting grounds for GoT casting.

  77. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Jason Isaacs even has the same bone structure as Malahide. Eury baby!

  78. Josh Parker
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Felix,

    Both he and Kevin McKidd have said they won’t be on GoT, because apparently they believe their show was cancelled to make way for it. It wasn’t, and they’re being idiots for believing that, but it’s true that that’s what they think.

  79. Juego de Tronos
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    I like very much for Ellaria ^^. Congrats HBO for this cast!

  80. Selmy
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    They were joking.

  81. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    King DBC:
    Seven Hells Bells,

    I honestly cannot see where you’re coming from, because Lena Headey is doing a pretty fucking amazing portrayal of Cersei. She’s one of the best, as in right up there close to Charles Dance as Tywin…

    Hear hear. To me she ranks up there with Dance, Dinklage, Liam Cunningham and Maisie Williams as the ones I just sorta bow down to.

  82. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Also I wouldnt mind seeing James Frain in the show. He always plays the master manipulator very well. Alot of those roles have been casted already. Maybe Crows eye or bloodraven.

  83. Magic Loogie
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    She’s now in Pinter’s The Hothouse in the West End with John Simm and Simon Russell Beale through Aug. 3. Great reviews.

  84. Josh Parker
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Selmy,

    They were? It was this very page that reported that, and it didn’t sound like joking to me. It sounded like Purefoy was honestly saying that McKidd changed his mind and now he wouldn’t do the show.

  85. mariamb
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Hear hear. To me she ranks up there with Dance, Dinklage, Liam Cunningham and Maisie Williams as the ones I just sorta bow down to.

    Absolutely! All hail Lena – she is incredible.

  86. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Jason Isaacs even has the same bone structure as Malahide.Eury baby!

    That much is quite true. And with an eyepatch you can easily see Lucius Malfoy as this insane SOB, and furthermore (which would help those of us who do want to see the Dorne/Iron Island plots appear even without the secondary characters like Rodrik Harlaw, Quentyn Martell or any more than 1-2 sand snakes), he really only needs 3-4 scenes total so far. With a crazy eyepatch, he’d be hard to forget about.

  87. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    Vikestad,

    It’ just an opinion. Don’t see the need to call it bullshit. Stevenson could easily pass as Malahide’s brother.

  88. Selmy
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Agreed. Also; Nikolaj, Michelle Fairley and Stephen Dillane

  89. Josh Parker
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Just as an aside, every time I see a role cast post, someone starts using the word “casted”.

    This word does not exist.

    Someone was “cast” in a role; they were not “casted”. They were never “casted” because THAT WORD DOES NOT EXIST!

    Sorry, I don’t mean to be a grammar Nazi but this gets under my skin.

  90. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker:
    Selmy,

    They were? It was this very page that reported that, and it didn’t sound like joking to me. It sounded like Purefoy was honestly saying that McKidd changed his mind and now he wouldn’t do the show.

    Yes, how awful. There are only 3,683,877 other actors who would kill for this show, and regular citizens, too.

  91. Ser Arys Oakheart
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Cast me!

  92. Jentario
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

    I just thought of a way they can cut Arianne- have Ellaria replace her… That would explain the high profile casting and GRRM’s omission of Arianne in his list of “probably will be cast” Dornish…

    Please no HBO!

  93. bleh
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    can we get Freida Pinto for Arianne?

  94. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    I hope that Isaacs gets casted.

  95. Princess of dorne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    James purefoy spits all over game of thrones
    Don’t you people undestand that he doesn’t wasn’t to be involved?
    He shouldn’t have your support

    Stone Cold Bastard,

  96. Jdp13
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Great choice. Very much how I pictured her

  97. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    I wouldnt say high profile.

  98. Red Hound
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Anyone who comes from “Rome” is welcome in the GOT cast.

    Can we have Kerry Condon and Polly Walker in here too?

  99. Jentario
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh:
    She was great in Rome, and also in Luther. Great casting.

    So, Ray Stevenson (Victarion) and Kevin McKidd (J. Connington) next? :)

    We have the same head, apparently.

  100. Cary Storm
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think anyone from Rome is young enough to play Fat Walda. Unless one of Kidd’s really young daughters.

  101. King DBC
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    bleh,

    I hope so… Though, google Aiysha Hart. She’s also a pretty fine choice IMO.

  102. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    I KNEW IT!!! Called this a few months ago. Loved her in Rome, and think she’ll play the role perfectly.

  103. dizzy
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

    Good choice.

  104. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    And her name rhymes with parmigiana.. sorta. Win win.

  105. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Perfect casting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    if only Oded Fehr was Oberyn :-( those two would be great together.

  106. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    I think she was #1 on everyone’s list for the role, but I never expected her to actually be cast since the role is so minor! Huzzah!

    Maybe HBO will expand the role with such a great actress!

  107. SokratesK
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    Spot on looks wise!Although perhaps prettier than book Ellaria but hey ,that’s always a plus!Also,i’m really glad they didn’t go with Oded Fehr for Oberyn but that’s just me i suppose

  108. Visennya Targaryen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Yes HBO has heard my plea. I 1000% approve of this casting. I hope we get Janina Gavankar as Lady Nym next year.

  109. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Selmy:
    GreatJon of Slumber,

    Agreed. Also; Nikolaj, Michelle Fairley and Stephen Dillane

    Yep, those three for sure. Hell, I’m not done. Gwen’s ridiculously good in a role that I didn’t think they’d find someone for in the first place. Sophie Turner’s awesome. Natalia Tena has turned a nothing part into something fantastic. Oh, and of course the three plotters of the council – John Glover, Conleth Hill, and Mayor Tommy Carcetti.

  110. James
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Jentario:
    I just thought of a way they can cut Arianne- have Ellaria replace her… That would explain the high profile casting and GRRM’s omission of Arianne in his list of “probably will be cast” Dornish…

    Please no HBO!

    Based on the way Merra and Jojen were cut and replaced by Osha, I have to say your fears are well-grounded.

  111. Justice
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    Yeah it’s a long shot but nobody would be a better euron than mikkelson.

  112. Selmy
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    It’s possible but I’d doubt they would cut a POV character…

  113. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    The only POV character I could see getting cut is Aeron Greyjoy and probably Areo Hotah. Arianne is too important for S5 to cut.

  114. Zeus
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    Is being half Indian dark enough? Seriously though she was good in Rome and should be good here.

  115. Felix
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    Okay :)

  116. mariamb
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    Jentario,

    The only POV character I could see getting cut is Aeron Greyjoy and probably Areo Hotah. Arianne is too important for S5 to cut.

    Agree. Arianne is too important to the Martell storyline.

  117. Felix
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Too bad Kevin McKidd don’t want to be in it, he is my Jon Connington.

  118. JP Dayne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    I’m happy with this cast.
    Couldn’t get more “MEDITERRANEAN” than that, amirite?

  119. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    On the subject of McKidd and Purefoy a member here contacted James on twitter and he made it clear he was joking.

    However I have a feeling Purefoy’s schedule might not allow him to join GOT, The Following seems to be quite popular.

    No clue about McKidd.

  120. Jaison Biagini
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    just wish mckidd would leave that dumb soap opera he’s on now!!

    after seeing this casting i wish her part was bigger!! loved her on luther, rome, and human target. great actress.

  121. Ariel
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    I like Ray Stevenson a lot, but to me Victarion IS Vladimir Kulich!

  122. Jaison Biagini
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    mckidd and purefoy are both on awful shows!!
    grey’s anatomy is as bad as a day time soup.
    while i really love kevin bacon, the following is really bad!! so far beyond reality.

  123. Raenelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    She’s a gorgeous woman, and I loved her in Rome. But, holy crap, check out her neck. Long enough to make Audrey Hepburn feel stubby.

  124. Maester Tcost
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm | Permalink

    I am just delighted — best casting since Diana Rigg. I hope that this means that Ellaria will get an even larger role on the show than she has in the books. This woman can really act, but the photo up there doesn’t do justice to her beauty. If she is given the material she can make the audience adore her, and she can break their hearts.

    I know it’s hoping for way too much, but it would be wonderful as well as impossible to see her reunited with Mark Valley here somehow (Hotah, maybe?), but I think he’s busy as well as American. Could they somehow get her together with Selmy or Jorah?

    I cheered so loudly when I read this that I heard neighbors wondering what I was making noise about! Hurrah!

  125. The Greatjon
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Pretty solid casting for what is ultimately a minor role. I wonder if they have plans to expand her character, sort of in the way they did for the Queen of Thorns.

  126. Seonaidh Ceanneidigh
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

    AA:
    I was flipping through the channels the other day and saw Mads Mikkelsen as a pirate in The Three Musketeers or something…Is that where all the fancasting is coming from? Cause he looked ridiculous and completely laughable.

    No, check out “Valhalla Rising” and how he looks in the new film “Michael Kohlhaas”.

    Someone said David O’Hara for Victarion and I can also see that working if they don’t get Stevenson.

  127. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    More likely they cut Nymeria and keep Ellaria in King’s Landing as the Dornish representative to the Small Council.

    The character of Nymeria already has issues. Her entire back story was used for Talisa and there is already a Nymeria on the TV series (Arya’s Direwolf). So I can see them cutting book-Nymeria easily.

  128. TheWolfofWinterfell
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    Basically running around my kitchen
    screeching in happiness, so yeah, I approve of this casting. She’s been my pick for the role for years.

    Couldn’t agree more! So stoked!

  129. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    The Greatjon,

    I think they will and I don’t have any problems with that.

  130. Clob
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    While reading I was wondering why she looked so familiar as I never watched Rome. Then I got to the Human Target part and that was it. I thought she was great on that show… and then they shut it down. :/

  131. Sunny
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    I really hope they will still cast Arianne. The show has shown in the past they will go to no lengths to properly adapt Kings landing, both in screen time and characters, however, they have neglected other storylines in this process. So while I am happy that they cast Ellaria, I wonder if it would have been more prudent to cast Arianne instead, and have her introduced now.

  132. Arkash
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    kurozukin:
    I’m actually surprised that they’re apparently not changing her name. They probably can’t change Elia’s name at this point, because IIRC she’s mentioned as Princess Elia in the S1 blu-ray animated histories. They’ve tended to be paranoid about confusing TV viewers with similarly-named characters, and even I sometimes get Elia and Ellaria mixed up (I typed “Elia” as “Ellaria” several times while typing this paragraph!)

    Or maybe they’re starting to understand their audience is not stupid… I hope.

    Anyway, I’m quite sure they will do the distinction… Elia shall be brought up in dialogues quite a bit this season, so people really understand the motivations of the Viper.

    And I dont think Ellaria will be name-dropped that much… it’s probably going to be “you know, the Red Viper lover woman, there…”

  133. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Wow, she is beautiful. I looked up some of her work and she’s an excellent actress too. :P

  134. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    I just called Purefoy and he confirmd that GoT is dog shit and not worth his time. He also said that Ciaran Hinds’ breath is horrid, confirming why Kit had a dull glazed look on his face in all his scenes with him.

  135. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    Sunny,

    There’s no need to rush Arianne she’ll have plenty of material in S5.

    Arianne, Victarion and Euron should all be kept for season 5.

  136. patchface
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    Can’t wait for Arianne and the Sand snakes!

  137. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:21 pm | Permalink

    So with this casting announcement, I think some people have it right that Ellaria may assume the role of Nymeria on the Small Council, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she also took over some aspects of Taena Merryweather’s role, other than the part she played at Tyrion’s trial. I think it’s also a solid assumption that both Oberyn & Ellaria will be given more to do this coming season than they had in the book, which I have absolutely no problem with.

  138. John W
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

    HOLY SCHNIKES! She’s awesome.

  139. Atomix
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Shes so good she could even replace a certain myrish merryweather later on – like Ros covered multiple roles.

  140. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    Khal-A-Bunga,

    I’ve read a few people wonder if Ellaria could take the role of Taena of Myr, and I personally am on the fence with it. I think I would be okay with it in the end…..

    I think it would be an easy way to combine book characters and flesh out series Ellaria, but would Cersei have a sexual liaison with a Martell (or vice versa)? Okay, She is only a Martell via marriage and maybe the Lannister/ Martell feud is more on Oberyn’s part than Ellaria’s? Hmmm…

  141. Summer Is Coming
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

    Yes! Yes! YES! I knew it! I knew she was the perfect Ellaria. Like sooo many of you I called it months ago! Oh I remember those talks about casting.. It’s funny how things turn up the way you imagined! Perfect! Can’t wait to see her into character. I guess her role will be a bit expanded!

  142. Tom Hilton
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh: She was great in Rome, and also in Luther. Great casting.So, Ray Stevenson (Victarion) and Kevin McKidd (J. Connington) next? :)

    Was waiting for someone to mention Luther. And let’s not forget Torchwood (only two or three episodes, IIRC, but she made her role memorable).

    Great casting–I’m excited about this.

  143. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    Jentario:
    I just thought of a way they can cut Arianne- have Ellaria replace her… That would explain the high profile casting and GRRM’s omission of Arianne in his list of “probably will be cast” Dornish…

    Please no HBO!

    A bit premature to say she’s been eliminated. She may show in Season 5. He didn’t mention her, sure, but doesn’t mean she’s out.

  144. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

    SokratesK:
    Spot on looks wise!Although perhaps prettier than book Ellaria but hey ,that’s always a plus!Also,i’m really glad they didn’t go with Oded Fehr for Oberyn but that’s just me i suppose

    Yes, I wasn’t exactly clamoring for the guy who was sixth-billed in “The Mummy.”

  145. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Who says we won’t see Arianne this season? Maybe she’ll travel to King’s Landing with Oberyn & Ellaria…

  146. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Tom Hilton,

    Indira Varma is the female Sean Bean of film and series!
    She dies in so many shows I am almost surprised that she was not cast as the Red Viper! XD

  147. Benjamin Wakefield
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Absolutely yes

  148. Tom Hilton
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode: Tom Hilton, Indira Varma is the female Sean Bean of film and series!She dies in so many shows I am almost surprised that she was not cast as the Red Viper! XD

    Hahaha! So true.

    She didn’t die in Bride & Prejudice, but she didn’t fare too well either (IIRC, she was in the Caroline Bingley role).

  149. Damryn of Dorne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Awesome casting, in Nina we Trust.

  150. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    Jentario,

    The only POV character I could see getting cut is Aeron Greyjoy and probably Areo Hotah. Arianne is too important for S5 to cut.

    Hotah may survive because he has all of 2 lines and therefore can live as a background character. I can see Aeron being trimmed sharply. I can also see Quentyn being cut, tho perhaps he’s trimmed to a short 2-episode arc, a first appearance before Danys in late Season 5, a last one in early Season 6.

  151. Phil
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    I AM SO HAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPY :D

  152. Ed
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Seven Hells Bells:
    Awesome. Rome was nearly perfectly casted, loved all the characters. Atia would’ve been a better Cersei than the 300 chick in my opinion

    She’s too fat.

  153. Oi!
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Great casting probably 90% of fans saw her as Ellaria. And yeah her role should really be expanded to that of Nymeria and have her stay in KL.

  154. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Omg! Is that a positive comment Al? :-)

  155. growingstrong
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    awesome!!!

  156. Zack
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Happy to see a fan favorite getting cast! And more Rome alumni!

    Looking good for Ray Stevenson (Victarion), Kevin McKidd (Jon Connington) and Ian McNeice (Wyman Manderly) :)

    Yes, yes, yes!

    Anyhow, this is a great piece of casting news. She’s gonna fit in marvelously.

  157. Mister Stoneheart
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:48 pm | Permalink

    This is great casting choice! Perfect! Expand her role!

  158. Josh Parker
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:49 pm | Permalink

    I will never understand the Mikkelson love.

    First, he looks synthetic.

    Second, his accent is incredibly thick, and often hard for English speakers to understand. I sincerely doubt he’d be able to pull off a convincing Ironborn accent (yes, it bothers me when two characters allegedly from the same place speak completely different dialects).

    Third, there are MANY choices for Victarion and Euron both that would be better.

  159. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    I think people are jumping the gun assuming that because they cast a familiar face(although we’re not talking a major star) that the role she is playing will be expanded. Ciaran Hinds is a much bigger star and Mance is a much larger role than Ellaria, and he barely featured in season 3. I don’t see Ellaria being anything more than Oberyn’s paramour, who may have some good scenes with Cersei and the Queen of Thornes/Margaery. I believe the QOT called Ellaria the “Serpent’s whore” in the books. I do hope they play up the Tyrell/Martell rivalry in the show.

  160. Arkash
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    AA:
    I was flipping through the channels the other day and saw Mads Mikkelsen as a pirate in The Three Musketeers or something…Is that where all the fancasting is coming from? Cause he looked ridiculous and completely laughable.

    See him as One-Eye in the amazing Valhalla Rising, you’ll understand… watch the Pusher trilogy too… you’ll see how he can do menacing, wild, unpredictable, dangerous, charismatic, without saying a word… he’s got one of these faces !!!!

    He also can do very vulnerable and fragile (The Hunt) – yet so tense and nervous – he is one of the best actors of our generation.

    And he was the best thing in the mediocre King Arthur movie !

  161. Leithian
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    I’ve just seen her in Luther, in a very different character but I like the choice.

  162. Sean C.
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Seven Hells Bells:
    Awesome. Rome was nearly perfectly casted

    “Cast”, perfectly cast. “Casted” is not a word.

  163. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    For me personally it’s the exact same traits you dislike that would make Mads Mikkelsen perfect for Euron Greyjoy! XD

    His “synthetic look” would work since Euron is supposed to look eerily young for his age and the accent would work since Euron has been gone from the Iron Islands for almost 10 years now. He would likely have picked up some other accent or traits from another region.

  164. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Al Swearengen,

    Omg! Is that a positive comment Al? :-)

    Hahah it’s a miracle :-D

  165. Arthur
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    D&D did a great job showing the tension in dialog between Cersei and Marg.

    Now with the Martells coming to KL I expect this level of verbal combat to raise several notches on the “Did she really just say that” scale…

    Women wield words like men wield swords and their wounds cut just as deep.

  166. Anonymous Edd
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    Carne,

    Great pick for Jon Connington!

  167. Summer Is Coming
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    Ray Stevenson as Victarion and Jason Isaacs as Euron! If this happens I will not sleep for a week because of the excitement!

  168. Anonymous Edd
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    King DBC,

    She is gorgeous. Yowza.

  169. Family, Duty, Hodor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    I saw her in Hustle – she was good. A shame that Ellaria is such a small role. Perhaps it will be expanded.

  170. Summer Is Coming
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Holly Jesus!! As I was typing I looked at the TV on this channel I left it on randomly and there she was. I said “holly shit, what a coincidence!”.

    edit: it is “Human Target”… never heard of it before.

  171. Lazlo Woodbine
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Great choice! She’s a lot like I pictured Ellaria, and she was excellent in Rome and Luther.

  172. KG
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, ok … this will do. She looks quite suitable for the part. Never saw “Rome,” but they haven’t cast a poor actor yet.

  173. Caelra
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

    Yay for Indira Varma!

    Also, George just wrote this on his blog: “As to where we go from here… season four is coming, and no one is safe on GAME OF THRONES.

    Not even those who you think might be safe for another book or two, from reading my novels.”

    Who could D&D be planning on killing early?!

  174. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

    Caelra,

    Probably some minor characters, most likely. I can’t really recall many of the characters who died in AFfC & ADwD, and I’m assuming those are the two novels Martin is talking about, when he says “…another book or two…”, so…?

  175. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    i spit on the comments about greys. PPTTTOOEY. Great show. Mckidd awesom in it. I can see him as Jon Con. But i wouldnt mind seeing Damian Lewis, Tony Curran.
    Simon Pegg as Duck. and this may be blasphemy but i think Robert Pattinson would be an awesom yound griff.

  176. Jen@House Stark
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming:
    Ray Stevenson as Victarion and Jason Isaacs as Euron! If this happens I will not sleep for a week because of the excitement!

    I’m with ya! Season 4 would not come soon enough.

  177. boze
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Khal-A-Bunga,

    Yeah. Let’s remember how big of a deal Mago’s death was for him. ;)

  178. Summer Is Coming
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Jon Blackfyre,

    funny! about young griff. I believe they will go with an unknown young actor for that part. Casting a big name for young griff will attract attention to him, and they don’t want that, since his identity will be a big mistery in S5.

    About GRRM’s comment regarding potential unknown deaths in S4: Daenerys. She’s a gonner for sure. But thinking about the books now, you do not believe D&D would kill the QoT? She does not appear after book 3 and is not relevant afterwards… I’m worried…

  179. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

    Caelra,

    Not really worried. Still don’t care that they killed off Irri,Rakharro,Mago,Xaro, and Pyatt Pree.

  180. RichMan
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    Westeros Bastard Names:
    Flowers, Hill, Pyke, Rivers, Sand, Snow, Stone, Storm, Waters

  181. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Yay! Casting news! I’ve only seen her in Bones so I’m not the familiar with her, but I trust in Nina Gold and the excitement of the rest you.

    Don’t worry about Arianne being cut people. She’s too important. They’ll probably introduce her in season 5. She could take over the role of Nymeria. She’s going KL to serve on the council so the part will probably take on greater importance. The sand snakes are cool but there’s so many. No way they’ll all be cast.

    I’m not sure if it would work to give Ellaria the role of Taena. Cersei trusted her because she’s foreign and she didn’t think Taena was that invested in the Tyrells. The Martells on the other hand hate the Lannisters. Cersei is dumb, but not dumb enough to trust Oberyn’s paramour!

  182. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

    boze,

    Every single Dothraki character is interchangable to me. They are all the same. George is so worried that they killed off Dothraki character number 6, named Mago, when Dothraki character number 12, named Trago, could easily replace him in the show and no one would notice.

  183. Arthur
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Haha…

    Just thinking, D&D have taking a large step closer to getting Kevin Mckidd…

    All D&D have to do is send Kevin an email saying something like…

    “Your wife is still alive, we have her, she is in Belfast, come sign this contract and we will give her back”

    Mckidd will instantly snap into his Lucius Vorenus character and start flipping tables then head to Belfast… Even better, along the way he will scope up Titus Pulo and D&D can force Ray Stevenson to sign as well!

  184. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    Caelra:
    Yay for Indira Varma!

    Also, George just wrote this on his blog: “As to where we go from here… season four is coming, and no one is safe on GAME OF THRONES.

    Not even those who you think might be safe for another book or two, from reading my novels.”

    Who could D&D beplanning on killing early?!

    I fear that Grenn will be the one. He could take over the role of Donal Noye and die fighting Mag the Mighty. :(

  185. axia777
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    If any people people have not watched Rome yet go do so. It is AMAZING. Indira is also amazing in the show. Her acting skills are top notch and she will add a lot to GoT. This is the best casting news I have heard in a long time. SWEET!!!

  186. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    boze,

    You never know, though. Based on how the show has operated to this point, it could be someone as minor as Mago, but it could also be someone like Bronn, who really doesn’t have anything to do after this coming season. Unless they give him the role of another character from the books (I’ve seen some suggest sending him to Dorne to guard Myrcella, but I think that’s unlikely, and doesn’t make all that much sense), there just isn’t anything for him to do after Tyrion’s trial.

  187. Nipplesonabreastplat
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Indira will make a great Ellaria…..she and Oberyn are going to look great together.

    SO EXCITED!!

  188. The Dragon Demands
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    They got the lady from Kama Sutra (1993)? Wow…that *is* Ellaria Sand.

    Good that they got an Indian actress too, reflecting the different ethnicity of the Dornish.

  189. Michelle Yvette Peeples
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    This is awesome news. Love her; love the casting. She’s perfect!

    Michelle Peeples
    @ZedShowgirl

  190. Antmanx68
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Perfection.

  191. mariamb
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    And still no confirmation as to what character Mark Gatiss will be. Strange.

    Also, do we have any sightings of the BWB actors – Dormer, Kaye, McGinley – in Belfast or other shooting locations?

  192. Vaess
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Just went to IMDB to check out photos of Ms Varma. First picture – Ellaria and Stannis together. That was a nice surprise.

  193. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:47 pm | Permalink

    Isaacs Isaacs Isaacs is comin’

  194. Eric the Actor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Kevin McKidd never said anything about not doing Game of Thrones. James Purefoy – who hasn’t exactly set the world on fire since Rome ended – claimed he did. If you want to take Purefoy’s words at face value, fine. But McKidd never said anything.

  195. Eric the Actor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Re: McKidd and Purefoy

    Here are some comments from Purefoy 18 months before he said he’d never do the show.

    “If it was the right role on Game of Thrones, definitely. Of course! It’s a terrific series. It’s a great series of books. I love HBO. I’m on record saying that HBO is the best television company in the world, and I believe they are. I think they absolutely understand how to make television that is really, really vital and interesting and visceral, and all the things that television really should be. I’m a big fan of HBO.”

    Sounds like the fellow didn’t get a call, and sour grapes ensued.

  196. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    mariamb: Also, do we have any sightings of the BWB actors – Dormer, Kaye, McGinley – in Belfast or other shooting locations?

    Nothing yet and no appearances confirmed on CVs or anything.

  197. Baldwin IV.
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Always thought Dominic West would be a good Griff.

  198. Skipjack
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    This is a relief, a very good choice. I’m really glad they are keeping some aspects of the Dornish from the books, like the idea that there are different hues to them. It probably makes things easier to cast as well. I think the description Sansa gives for Ellaria suits Indira Varma well, she’s a handsome woman rather than a straightforwardly pretty face. There’s a lot of character there.

    However, I must say that if they do not cast Arianne, then that retroactively makes A Feast for Crows an even worse book than it was.

  199. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Vaess,

    Yeah, from Season 1 of the Hunted. It also has Patrick Malahyde (Balon Greyjoy).

  200. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Just saw that tweet up at the side: “”As far as I’m concerned, it can go on as long as it wants.” – Lombardo on how long #GoT will run.”

    NIIIIIIIIICE.

    I still think 8 seasons is the sweet spot. 9 only if GRRM isn’t done or if it needs a short wrap up. 10 is too much. D&D et al will be exhausted by then.

  201. outdoorcats
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    This is the second-best choice they could have made after Lubna Azabal. Great pick!

    As to those anticipating Purefoy or Mikkleson being cast on the show…give up, guys. You realize they both have lead roles in U.S. network dramas which both got renewed for a second season? BTW, for all the Mikkleson fans on here, I hope you watch him in ‘Hannibal.’ He’s a far better Lecter than Anthony Hopkins was, IMO (though I thought Hopkins was too hammy, so what do I know). ‘The Following’ on the other hand is one of the worst television series I have ever seen (though it does have some unintentional comedic appeal).

    Now Ray Stevenson…? Is arguably not out of the question. I wonder if D&D are aware that he is the massive fan-favorite for Victarion and have considered him.

    Jason Isaacs for Euron – I like the look of him, and he definitely looks related to Patrick Malahide (and with a makeup could look very Ironborn), but I’ve never seen him give a really good dramatic performance. Perhaps because I’ve only seen him in kids’ films – Peter Pan, Harry Potter, etc. Can anyone recommend some good adult dramatic films starring Jason Isaacs to watch?

    I think more likely than not, though, for Euron they will pick an actor who is not so well-known, but will blow us away with an incredible performance nonetheless. That’s my guess and I’m sticking to it.

  202. KG
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Khal-A-Bunga,

    … that we know of.

  203. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    The Dragon Demands,

    It’s to bad they didn’t get Naveen Andrews as Oberyn then! He was her lover in Kama Sutra!

  204. Jeff O'Connor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Huh. I’ve considered potential death deviations for both Bronn and Grenn as well.

  205. Mrs. H'ghar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    I just called Purefoy and he confirmd that GoT is dog shit and not worth his time.He also said that Ciaran Hinds’ breath is horrid, confirming why Kit had a dull glazed look on his face in all his scenes with him.

    Ry, you are craking this woman up today! Keep it up bro, you’re on a roll!

  206. Khal-A-Bunga
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    True enough, but they (being the writers) do, so I guess we’ll know soon enough.

  207. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming: About GRRM’s comment regarding potential unknown deaths in S4: Daenerys. She’s a gonner for sure. But thinking about the books now, you do not believe D&D would kill the QoT? She does not appear after book 3 and is not relevant afterwards… I’m worried…

    You’re kidding, right? I mean, please. So far the people on the show killed that were not dead at this point are: The Tickler, Irri, Xaro Xhaon Daxos, Pyat Pree, Mago, Doreah, and what, Amory Lorch? Maybe one or two other losers? C’mon. The dragons are the whole point of the damn show. Good grief.

  208. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger: I fear that Grenn will be the one.He could take over the role of Donal Noye and die fighting Mag the Mighty.:(

    Yes. That’s a possibility.

    Also, Bronn’s story really does pretty much stop after ASoS. If there’s any “major” that’s kind of sitting out there without a role going forward, it’s him.

  209. outdoorcats
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    I think he was kidding.

  210. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats: Jason Isaacs for Euron – I like the look of him, and he definitely looks related to Patrick Malahide (and with a makeup could look very Ironborn), but I’ve never seen him give a really good dramatic performance. Perhaps because I’ve only seen him in kids’ films – Peter Pan, Harry Potter, etc. Can anyone recommend some good adult dramatic films starring Jason Isaacs to watch?

    He’s actually quite good in “Friends with Money.”

  211. FlayedManofBK
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    it’d be great if Bronn and Jaime team up instead of Jaime and Illyn Payne since the actor won’t be returning due to health reasons.

  212. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    I think Dominick West would be a better lyn Corbray and Mark Strong would be great in any Greyjoy role

  213. Arkash
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    I can see Grenn dying ala Donal Noye next season (as long as good ol’ Dolorous Edd stays around).

  214. Arstan Whitebeard
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Can we get Coral Amiga also? I don’t mind mining Rome without mercy

  215. dizzy
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:29 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    Countdown to the next issue of the turning it up to 11 joke.

  216. Jon Blackfyre
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming,

    your probably right. What about someone like Jamie Bell

  217. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Can they please announce Mace now!!!!

  218. Lady of Highgarden
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats,

    He played the villain in Patriot, opposite Mel Gibson. I think he’s great, but I don’t want him as Victarion, really, cause Vicatrion is so horrible :P

  219. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats,

    Dude for the full Isaacs experience, watch the series Brotherhood. Underrated series about the crime and politics in Irish Providence, Rhode Island. Its only 3 seasons and Issacs is fabulous as a mobster brother of a politician. It also features Jason Clarke who would be awesome on GoT as well.

  220. zaprowsdower
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    I actually just screamed YES! She is perfect. So perfect.

  221. Nick_Scryer
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:41 pm | Permalink

    Great choice!

    Let’s hope this means more ROME actors being cast in the years to come.

    My hopes:

    Ray Stevenson as Victarion
    James Purefoy as Euron
    Ian McNiece as Wyman Manderly
    Kevin Mckidd as Jon Connington

  222. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:42 pm | Permalink

    Khal-A-Bunga:
    boze,

    You never know, though. Based on how the show has operated to this point, it could be someone as minor as Mago, but it could also be someone like Bronn, who really doesn’t have anything to do after this coming season. Unless they give him the role of another character from the books (I’ve seen some suggest sending him to Dorne to guard Myrcella, but I think that’s unlikely, and doesn’t make all that much sense), there just isn’t anything for him to do after Tyrion’s trial.

    I think that they’ll send Bronn away with Jaime when he leaves KL. Another possibility is that they have him replace the Kettlebacks (although I don’t see that working out).

  223. Raiden
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    Wow, she looks perfect for the part! <3 (Also, I can't stop laughing at imagining the faces on people who wanted black actors/actresses for the Dornish. XD Take that, your fan opinions were wrong~! …And yes, I'm a sadist when it comes to these things.)

    Now, as for other characters? Tim Roth could probably work as Euron Greyjoy. The Musketeer may not have been a very good film, but Roth was delightfully cold-blooded and unhinged as Febre (plus, Reservoir Dogs).

    Oh… right. Am I the only one who wants Peter Stormare to play ANY role in GoT? He's a genius at playing different characters and can speak in practically any accent (including Italian in Brothers Grimm).

    …I really want Jason Isaacs and Rufus Sewell in there, too. And if they could get big names like this, then possibly Colin Firth, too.

  224. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats,

    I agree that Purefoy and Mads Mikkelsen are very unlikely….
    I still say Lars Mikkelsen would make a great Victarion though.

    Isaacs has some incredible adult drama out there!

    Check out “Brotherhood”. It also stars Jason Patrick, AnnBeth Gish, and Fionula Flanigan.

    Also” Case Histories” from the BBC. A bit more light-hearted. Isaacs plays a detective that has family issues and women seem to fall all over him complicating his life.

    I also liked him in the short-lived NBC drama “Awake”.

    Did you see Blackhawk Down? He played the bad ass search and rescue operator (complete with handlebar mustahce) named Steele!

  225. kingjon
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    Love it. I like how HBO is giving some work to actors from previous shows. And I too, would love for them to find something for Ray Stevenson.

  226. desire
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    Raiden,

    Yes! Rufus Sewell would be perfect for any role!

  227. Valyrian Steel
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    I really like this bit of casting. Also I agree, Ray Stevenson would be excellent for Victarion (or anyone). He did a guest stint on Dexter last season that, in my opinion, knocked it out of the park acting wise (a gay russian mafia boss of all things and he nailed the role). I liked Kevin McKidd for Davos, but since that didn’t happen Jon Connington would be good too, though I always thought he had a “peasant’s face” so made more sense for Davos. Now they just need to get Ian McShane as Doran Martell.

  228. WildSeed
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Happy to see a fan favorite getting cast! And more Rome alumni!

    Looking good for Ray Stevenson (Victarion), Kevin McKidd (Jon Connington) and Ian McNeice (Wyman Manderly) :)

    I like your choices here.

  229. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Raiden,

    Love Peter Stormare!
    I was trying to think of a great role for him and nothing quite fit him IMO. He’d be an intense Randyll Tarly, but does not feel quite right to me. Maybe Euron or Cotter Pyke? The Shavepate?
    *Shrug*

    I would love Rufus Sewell as Euron!
    He can play a lot of types, but he does that mad, on the edge, dangerous so well!

  230. Bryon
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Fantastic choice! Spot on for the role!

  231. WildSeed
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode:
    Jentario,

    More likely they cut Nymeria and keep Ellaria in King’s Landing as the Dornish representative to the Small Council.

    The character of Nymeria already has issues. Her entire back story was used for Talisa and there is already a Nymeria on the TV series (Arya’s Direwolf).So I can see them cutting book-Nymeria easily.

    I was considering this also, once the onscreen plot drives in that direction.

    Ms Varma must be a fan of GoT, or the negotiating very lucrative for the role.
    I’m only speculating that it would likely be minor but effective.

  232. caoimay
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    good choice D&D, she looks just like the ellaria in my head!

    also on the side future casting conversation didn’t james purefoy and mckidd both say they would never be in got because they think hbo gave preference to it over rome or something like that? Am I imagining the article? I’m prettysure this happened, I remember feeling irrationally peeved with them and being all ‘well I didn’t want you to be in it anyway!’

  233. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger: I fear that Grenn will be the one.He could take over the role of Donal Noye and die fighting Mag the Mighty.:(

    That would be so lame. Grenn isn’t the type of character to do such a thing. If they keep the fight with Mag than my money is on Alliser Thorne as a replacement of Donal Nooye. Show Thorne is way more likeable than book Thorne and this would be a very good way to say goodbye to his character. He and Jon could be hostile at first and then Thorne could put aside his mistrust for the Watch. His death could majorly affect Jon if it’s pulled off right.
    Some of the Mountains men who are still alive aren’t going to make the cut this season either (the guy who has Needle). And wasn’t Rorge returning this season? If that’s the case than he’s dead to.
    Grenn and Pip could die to, but I don’t think that they would die fighting Mag.
    Illyn Payne needs to die to (They’ll probably have Varys kill him when he busts out Tyrion) since the actor won’t be returning.
    Maester Aemon is also not safe. Personally, I think they’ll keep him alive this season because scenes between him and Stannis would be awesome. But I don’t think that they’ll sent him to Braavos.
    Pod the Sex God is also not safe. If Gendry accompanies Brienne on her journey to the Riverlands than they already have a young hostage that could be uses to force her into luring Jaime to LS. If so than Pod might die when they come across Locke and his gang.

  234. Olenna's Dietician
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Great casting. Yet another Gold casting choice by Nina.

    I wonder if they ever considered any of the Winstones (Jaimie or Ray) for any roles in GoT? Be interesting seeing it’s Theon’s irl gf and her father.

  235. Eljuma
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker,

    Polly for Genna Lannister!

    /kidding

  236. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats,
    Watch Isaacs in Gibson’s The Patriot. He playsa doucebag villian..

  237. WildSeed
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    desire:
    Raiden,

    Yes! Rufus Sewell would be perfect for any role!

    Has anyone read anything about his POV of the show ? He’s really a chameleon of
    an actor, but excels at alphas with wildcard personalities.

  238. bob
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    Khal-A-Bunga,

    of course there is things for him to do. sex. duh.

  239. Astonished
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    She doesn’t look very asian. I thought she was supposed to look asian. Or at least moorish. Very disappointing, but I am willing to keep an open mind about where the white people are going with this.

  240. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Wouldn’t it be nice if they cast Mads and Lars Mikkelsen (never going to happen thanks to Hannibal) as Euron and Victarion. Lars is taller than Mads (192 cm to Mads 183 cm) so they have the height thing right… and nobody could say that they don’t look like brothers :D Although Ray Stevenson would make a good Victarion, I am pretty willing to sacrifice him to get Mads Mikkelsen on the show.

  241. Arkash
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    I hope Wilko Johnson will come back for a scene or two, to say farewell to the show !

    Lars and Mads are dreamcasting for the Greyjoy brothers, but, well… it will probably remain a dream.

    My vote goes to Vladimir Kulich for Vic !

  242. Raiden
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Excuse me. Just HOW exactly is a half-Indian actress white? Indians ARE Asian.

  243. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Also, does anybody wonder about what they are going to do with Mands Rayder Next season is pretty straight forward but do you think that they would take the chance to recast him in season 4 as he’s supposed to be dead?

  244. Easteros bunny
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omgomg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg.

    THAT MEANS WE WILL SEE THE SANDSNAKES!!!!!!!!! (Eventually)

    This will be the greatest moment in the history of film tv and pop culture. Holy shit! I can’t believe it I mean really! I thought the sandsnakes were just got to be shut out ala the reeds but this is 100% percent confirmation that we will be getting the sandsnakes.

    My prediction is season five episode three is when they will be introduce. I expect they will be introduced in a badass way, maybe a fight scene or something, nothing to big we don’t want a black water episode in dorne LOL! Just something small to introduce the snakes and their fighting styles I guess.

  245. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    I love this actress on Top Chef!

  246. axia777
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Astonished:
    She doesn’t look very asian. I thought she was supposed to look asian. Or at least moorish. Very disappointing, but I am willing to keep an open mind about where the white people are going with this.

    This right here is so ignorant it hurts my mind to try and comprehend. O_o

  247. Astonished
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    Raiden:
    Excuse me. Just HOW exactly is a half-Indian actress white? Indians ARE Asian.

    The state of Israel is probably behind this particular outrage.

  248. caoimay
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Possibility of future casting of Purefoy or McKidd, (to clear up earlier comment!).

    According to Purefoy, he and McKidd decided on this commitment over lunch:
    McKidd and I had lunch the other day, and I said to him, “Have you been asked to do Game Of Thrones?” And he said, “I’d never do it. Because they stole our fucking show.” He worked out that if Rome had run for the entire seven seasons that it should have run, we would only have finished it last year. And he feels that HBO did Game of Thrones instead of us, so they stole our show. I kind of agree with him. I won’t be doing Game Of Thrones, even if they ask me.

    BUT THEN Purefoy apparently said
    “If it was the right role on Game of Thrones, definitely. Of course! It’s a terrific series. It’s a great series of books. I love HBO. I’m on record saying that HBO is the best television company in the world, and I believe they are. I think they absolutely understand how to make television that is really, really vital and interesting and visceral, and all the things that television really should be. I’m a big fan of HBO.”
    http://thewertzone.blogspot.ie/2013/01/james-purefoy-and-kevin-mckidd-rule-out.html (link for article)

    Confused now! I guess it could just have been an off hand remark?

    Pity, I do like kevin mckidd but if we’re going for a red head for connington I’d go with tony curran. He was brillant as Vincent in Doctor Who

  249. Easteros bunny
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar,

    Wow, have you even read the book?

  250. Raiden
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    State of Israel? 8D I’m Finnish. (And for the record, I don’t give a dime about Israel and Palestine. They’re impossible to reason with.)

  251. Felt Pelt
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar,

    I love the idea of Bronn replacing Illyn Payne, either him or a suddenly sword-trained tongueless Marillion. They can do that but I hope/think he stays on his trajectory of marrying into Lollys’ family and becoming a thorn in Cersei’s side, which is very funny and fits him well.

  252. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Astonished,

    She’s half-Indian, half-Swiss… not really “white” in anyone’s definition. Or is being Dornish a reverse paper-bag party?

    Either way, she’s hot and somewhat exotic, that fulfills my casting criteria. Haven’t seen Rome or Kama Sutra but apparently she’s good, so I’m looking forward to seeing her.

  253. Jordan
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    I’m pretty sure Astonished is trolling to mock fans who were/are not pleased by Oberyn’s casting/Martin’s remarks on the Dornish.

  254. 大黑鸡
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar:
    Also, does anybody wonder about what they are going to do with Mands Rayder Next season is pretty straight forward but do you think that they would take the chance to recast him in season 4 as he’s supposed to be dead?

    Why? Firstly, don’t recast anyone unless you absolutely have to, consistency does matter in TV/film.

    Secondly, he’s not glamoured to look like Rattleshirt for the rest of his life, I assumed Mel lifted the charm as soon as she could.

    Thirdly, I know I’m in the minority on here, but I like Ciaran as Mance! He hasn’t had much to do yet, but I love his on-screen presence. Maybe judge him once he’s actually had some decent scenes…

  255. Lex
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    Easteros bunny:
    This will be the greatest moment in the history of film tv and pop culture. Holy shit!

    Did I read your post correctly? The introduction of the Sand Snakes, who have (so far) done absolutely nothing, will be the greatest moment in the history of film tv and pop culture? LOL!

  256. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    Astonished: The state of Israel is probably behind this particular outrage.

    I am confused. What does this even mean? I know I shouldn’t feed the trolls, but I feel compelled to know.

  257. KG
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats: Perhaps because I’ve only seen him in kids’ films – Peter Pan, Harry Potter, etc.

    Heh, Kenneth Branagh was in a Harry Potter movie, too; not necessarily an indicator of acting ability.

  258. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Felt Pelt:
    Veltigar,

    I love the idea of Bronn replacing Illyn Payne, either him or a suddenly sword-trained tongueless Marillion. They can do that but I hope/think he stays on his trajectoryof marrying into Lollys’ family and becoming a thorn in Cersei’s side, which is very funny and fits him well.

    The problem here is that they haven’t introduced the Stokeworths. They might just marry him off of course but I’m not sure. Him naming the child Tyrion was pretty funny and he’ll be back in tWoW/aDoS but I don’t think the Stokeworth connection is that important. But above all if they marry him off to the Stokeworths than he’ll disappear for a while and since he’s such a well liked character they might not want to do that (+ his scenes with Jaime are probably going to be hilarious)

  259. Hollyoak
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    I barely remember this character or Jon Connington or Griff. Obviously I need to read the books again.

    I think television viewers will want an ending to this saga before George finishes the books.

  260. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Jordan:
    Chickenduck,

    I’m pretty sure Astonished is trolling to mock fans who were/are not pleased by Oberyn’s casting/Martin’s remarks on the Dornish.

    Yeah, I realised that after I read their next comment :) Guess I’m a sucker for feeding the trolls!

  261. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    大黑鸡: Why?Firstly, don’t recast anyone unless you absolutely have to, consistency does matter in TV/film.

    Secondly, he’s not glamoured to look like Rattleshirt for the rest of his life, I assumed Mel lifted the charm as soon as she could.

    Thirdly, I know I’m in the minority on here, but I like Ciaran as Mance!He hasn’t had much to do yet, but I love his on-screen presence.Maybe judge him once he’s actually had some decent scenes…

    I love Hinds as Mance to (although he desperatley needs more scenes) but they could just keep the glamour on if they wanted to recast him. IIRC Hinds can’t sing (and I don’t know if he plays an instrument). If he has to pose as a minstrel they might want someone who can actually do that.

  262. Ed
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry Astonished, but I have NO idea what you’re talking about. She looks almost exactly what I expected her character to look like.

    Astonished:
    She doesn’t look very asian. I thought she was supposed to look asian. Or at least moorish. Very disappointing, but I am willing to keep an open mind about where the white people are going with this.

  263. Selmy
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:41 pm | Permalink

    I’ve got a new favorite for Mace Tyrell.
    Donal Logue.

    http://www.andyerupts.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/donal-logue.jpg

  264. Rex Ryan
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Asian or at least Moorish. Bahaha.

  265. jentario
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    Astonished: The state of Israel is probably behind this particular outrage.

    Such an obvious troll, try harder please.

  266. Rex Ryan
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    And I do believe that Astonished fellow is kidding.

  267. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar: I love Hinds as Mance to (although he desperatley needs more scenes) but they could just keep the glamour on if they wanted to recast him. IIRC Hinds can’t sing (and I don’t know if he plays an instrument). If he has to pose as a minstrel they might want someone who can actually do that.

    Actually, you DON’T remember correctly on that point. He’s a musical theatre actor! Was in Phantom of the Opera. That’s some of what I’m looking forward to most.

  268. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    Easteros bunny:
    Veltigar,

    Wow, have you even read the book?

    Coming from the guy/girl who thinks that the introduction of the Sand Snakes is going to be “the greatest moment in the history of film tv and pop culture.” I consider that a compliment because you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.

  269. king piye
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

    A Secret Baratheon,

    waits for the inevitable idiot who makes fun of diversity casting comment.

  270. Rex Ryan
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    People all excited for Edric Dayne, Edric Storm, and Sand Snakes. I smell fanfic writers.

  271. Easteros bunny
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Lex,

    My post was not meant to be taken seriously. I was playing the role of an over excited fan who gets over excited for the introduction of minor characters who have done nothing. (So far)

    I refer to GRRM interview where we spoke of fans getting excited over a character with a raven cloak. A character that may sound cool on paper, but have nothing to add to the story. I’ve always seen the dorne parts of the book as a distraction from the real events happening else where in westeros.

  272. Ed
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

    Yes, I’d like “Pedantic A-Holes for $200, Alex.”

    Sean C.: “Cast”, perfectly cast.“Casted” is not a word.

  273. axia777
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Rex Ryan:
    And I do believe that Astonished fellow is kidding.

    I do believe who ever they are is trolling HARD.

  274. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck:

    Really? than I stand corrected :D I thought I read somewhere in an interview that he was glad that he didn’t had to sing in his introduction because he was bad at it. Guess I was wrong :) And I’m very glad about it. Hinds is a spectacular singer and I hope to hear him sing next season

  275. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    Rex Ryan,

    Lex,

    Personally I found the Sand Snakes great and wanted more chapters with them, however…. Even I do not think they will be pop culture epic!

    Thankfully they will have more to do in TWOW and ADOS…..

  276. Genevosey
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

    nice little tid bit here I spoiler tagged it but it’s not necessary it’s about the length of the series

    http://tv.yahoo.com/news/hbo-boss-talks-thrones-end-date-recasting-james-214124797.html

  277. Genevosey
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    well actually i didn’t spoiler it but it doesn’t matter

  278. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    Darquemode,
    Actually having Ellaria also double for Taena would be a good idea. In the books I always suspected Taena as purposely trying to seduce Cersei as a way to undermine her, by encouraging her worst behaviors and one could say if that was Taena’s plan it certainly helped move her along to the walk of shame. So having Ellaria in such a plot to bring Cersei down particularly if she did it for the Red Viper as part of his revenge, then it could make sense.

  279. Turncloak
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    James Purefoy and Kevin McKidd are on the record of stating that their “hate” for game of thrones was simply a joke and their comments were taken completely out of context

  280. Artie's Glasses
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

    Turncloak:
    James Purefoy and Kevin McKidd are on the record of stating that their “hate” for game of thrones was simply a joke and their comments were taken completely out of context

    Link? I know Purefoy was the only one of the two to make any comments, but they sure didn’t seem to need any context, and I’ve never heard of him taking them back. Wouldn’t surprise me, though. He’s not exactly in a position to look down on ANY roles.

  281. Tereeza777
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    How perfect! She was my favorite one in Rome. Wondered what had happened to her – and now she’s back!

  282. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Baldwin IV.,

    Everyone is recommending men in their 40′s but I got the impression that Griff is in his 50′s.

  283. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    axia777,

    The guy is a master troll. He’s been on this site for a long time with numerous aliases but its clearly the same guy…or girl. I use to hate him/ her when he got too personal now I just enjoy it. He/she has this way of getting right under your nails with a veil of sympathy and agreement and then driving the knife home with a cruel twist.

  284. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:35 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    Speaking of Kenneth Branagh, he’s great and he might could do Griff….maybe not tall enough………hmmmmm

  285. freypie
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Nice, I was certain that Ellaria would be cut (and Arianne introduced early).

  286. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Why do people come to the conclusion that Dorne and/or the Sand Snakes aren’t important? The series isn’t over yet. There are two books left. If not more. Nobody knows what’s going to happen.

  287. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar,
    I don’t mean to be argumentative but why would the casting of Ellaria mean that we’re going to have the Sand Snakes? Since she’s in KL and they’re all in Dorne, at least until next season at the earliest, her presence doesn’t really tell us all that much except that we’ll get the Red Viper’s full story in KL.

  288. Lina
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    This is perfect. She was great in Rome, and in my mind, almost exactly matches how I imagined Ellaria to look. Hopefully she’s welcomed more readily than Pedro Pascal was by the fan community.

  289. Ms. D. Ranged in AZ
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Why do people come to the conclusion that Dorne and/or the Sand Snakes aren’t important?

    I agree there’s no way to know if they’re important or not at this stage. I think a lot of people feel that they aren’t because they were introduced in the middle of the saga. But that doesn’t mean anything with GRRM. He’s already said a bazillion times that he wants to turn cliched (sp?) story arcs on their head and the idea that the characters introduced in the very beginning of the story are the heroes and victors is about as cliched as it gets.

  290. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    D & D know what’s going to happen.

  291. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ,

    Kevin McKidd is still in his thirties I think even!

    I never knew exactly how old Connington was…
    Rhaegar would have been 41 or so at the point of the series Griff appears. Age him up a few years for the TV series. We know Connington liked/ lusted Rhaegar and was a peer, but he could have easily been a few years older (or younger I guess). I assumed the series would cast him in the mid to late 40′s or early 50′s maybe.

    Someone like Jared Harris, Kenneth Branagh or Philip Glennister on the older end….
    David Wenham, Dougray Scott or John Henshall in the mid-range…
    Maybe someone like Jason Flemyng or Tony Curran if they go a few years younger.

    Who knows though. I think there could be a fairly large age range without changing the character of Connington much.

  292. Artie's Glasses
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:54 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    D & D know what’s going to happen.

    And Benioff says season 5 and on gives him nightmares.

    Obviously because AFFC and onward is approaching “useless drivel” territory.

  293. Alex Dubrovsky
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    Selmy,

    He’s busy with Vikings and Sons Of Anarchy at the moment, but he would be a good choice for Mace Tyrell.

  294. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ,

    I agree!

    In fact, I always considered some of the characters introduced in the last 2 books to actually be important BECAUSE they were introduced at that point. If not, why introduce them at all?

    I’m not saying they all are important to the endgame necessarily, but I would guess some of them are at the very least important to the earlier established characters. Integral to their personal journeys, obstacles to overcome, foes to act against etc….

  295. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ:
    Veltigar,
    I don’t mean to be argumentative but why would the casting of Ellaria mean that we’re going to have the Sand Snakes?Since she’s in KL and they’re all in Dorne, at least until next season at the earliest, her presence doesn’t really tell us all that much except that we’ll get the Red Viper’s full story in KL.

    … You lost me here?

  296. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    Ms. D. Ranged in AZ,

    That is true… hmmmm…
    I’ve been trying to figure out what they will do for Cersei since they do not have Margaery’s cousins. Using Taena would be an interesting work-around maybe…

  297. Darquemode
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Alex Dubrovsky,

    And he is on BBC America’s ‘Copper’ too!

  298. Gaius Baltar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

    Nice casting, first time they casted someone i imagined during reading. Lets hope Stevenson as Victarion will be second.

    But i find it strange Pascal was so criticized and Varma is not. I mean both are whites, but there is almost denial about it as it is shame or maybe only whites from Western Europe are “proper” whites or something.
    Same people probably think Boston terrorists or Iranians are not whites too, even though you could not be more Caucasian then those terrorists (they are from Caucasus), and Iran actually mean “Country of Aryans”. I guess in some minds you are only counted as white if you are born in Europe or North America.

  299. The Lightning Lord
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    A Secret Baratheon,

    She’s part-Indian.

  300. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats:
    As to those anticipating Purefoy or Mikkleson being cast on the show…give up, guys. You realize they both have lead roles in U.S. network dramas which both got renewed for a second season? BTW, for all the Mikkleson fans on here, I hope you watch him in ‘Hannibal.’ He’s a far better Lecter than Anthony Hopkins was, IMO (though I thought Hopkins was too hammy, so what do I know).

    Hannibal is brilliant!! I’m completely addicted. Mikkelsen is the king of microexpressions and never “winks” at the audience as if to say “see, I’m such an evil bastard MWAHAHAHAHA,” so it’s a real treat to watch, even if you want to murder him by the end of it for being so awful to the other main character! If he has any break in his schedule, I’d love for him to do Thrones. As you say, it’s highly unlikely, but one can dream, especially as some of the actors wrap up the filming of their sections relatively quickly.

  301. sherry
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

    I have seen this lady lots of times on TV, and she is very attractive and a good actress. She will be great in this role! As to Arianne, I wonder if her casting is going to wait until next season?

    To the people who are suggesting Rufus Sewell and Jason Isaacs to be cast in GoT, I agree with you! Also, Colm Feore if he finishes the Borgias role.

  302. outdoorcats
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    I’ve actually seen The Patriot now that you and others have mentioned it. That’s another one-dimensional role though.

  303. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:35 pm | Permalink

    Just saw Pacific Rim. I was surprised to see an Australian character in the film and couldn’t put my finger on who the actor was. And it was Max Martini the American character actor. His Aussie was pretty sweet and I have to tell ya, he would be an awesome Old Griff.

    Pacific Rim was fun btw.

  304. outdoorcats
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    KG,

    No, I just meant that you don’t get to show off a lot of acting range in most children’s films, especially if you play a bit villain like Jason Isaacs did in that film. I wasn’t accusing him of poor acting, just looking for suggestions of roles he does which are ‘deeper’ so I can watch.

  305. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    sherry:
    To the people who are suggesting Rufus Sewell and Jason Isaacs to be cast in GoT, I agree with you! Also, Colm Feore if he finishes the Borgias role.

    They cancelled The Borgias : ( Yeah, there were some great actors and actresses in there–Peter Sullivan, Lotte Verbeek and Sean Harris in addition to Colm Feore. Any roles for them in Thrones?

    François Arnaud for Daemon Sand!

  306. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle: Hannibal is brilliant!! I’m completely addicted. Mikkelsen is the king of microexpressions and never “winks” at the audience as if to say “see, I’m such an evil bastard MWAHAHAHAHA,” so it’s a real treat to watch, even if you want to murder him by the end of it for being so awful to the other main character! If he has any break in his schedule, I’d love for him to do Thrones.As you say, it’s highly unlikely, but one can dream, especially as some of the actors wrap up the filming of their sections relatively quickly.

    Personally, I think that the show Hannibal isn’t that great. It’s Mikkelsen who steals the show there everytime and who lifts that show above the mediocre crap it would have been without him (I agree that he’s a better Hannibal than Hopkins). The other elements of the show are quite lame. I love watching it because of Mikkelsen, if he wasn’t in it than I wouldn’t watch anymore. And I would be perfectly okay with that, as long as he comes on board to play Euron (never going to happen but we can dream right)

  307. Gatorfisch
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Josh Parker:
    Just as an aside, every time I see a role cast post, someone starts using the word “casted”.

    This word does not exist.

    Someone was “cast” in a role; they were not “casted”. They were never “casted” because THAT WORD DOES NOT EXIST!

    Sorry, I don’t mean to be a grammar Nazi but this gets under my skin.

    THANK YOU!!! That mistake is becoming #3 on my “hit list”, behind “irregardless” and “could care less”…
    Oh, and Indira looks perfect for the role!

  308. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    You know I really hope that Isaacs gets casted. Irregardless of the fact that he is known for being in two prominent kids movies, I could care less, he is grand.

  309. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    outdoorcats,

    And Euron is multi dimensional? Dude just needs to look sexy and blow. Hey, I think I was in a film that started out that way.

  310. Carne
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    And it had Burn Gorman! Man oh man if they bring him back for season 4 I will scream of joy.

    Isabelle,

    Sean Harris can play all the remaining roles for all I care. Amazing character actor. Damphair maybe?

  311. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar:

    Personally, I think that the show Hannibal isn’t that great. It’s Mikkelsen who steals the show there everytime and who lifts that show above the mediocre crap it would have been without him (I agree that he’s a better Hannibal than Hopkins). The other elements of the show are quite lame. I love watching it because of Mikkelsen, if he wasn’t in it than I wouldn’t watch anymore. And I would be perfectly okay with that, as long as he comes on board to play Euron (never going to happen but we can dream right)

    We’ll have to agree to disagree on that point, then. For me, the writing, storytelling and acting were great, and the visuals were absolutely stunning. I’ve also no idea what the writers have got up their sleeves for the next season(s) apart from what we know from the books, so it’s not at all predictable. That’s really refreshing, especially for something in the horror genre.

    If I can ask, what didn’t you like about it?

    And yes, we can dream! : )

  312. Phil
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Mads Mikkelsen is doing Hannibal, he probably doesn’t have the time. It’s kinda like last year when people wanted Maggie Smith as Olenna Tyrell.

  313. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    Mads aint my definition of hot and sexy. Eury IS hot and sexy. And he needs chest hair. Somehow I think Mads is a smoothy.

  314. Mr. Lemoncloak
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    how about Zuleikha Robinson as Arianne? would be a good match imo! have never heard of Indira, but she looks great! (really have to watch rome) kevin mckidd would be perfect as griff!

  315. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Carne:
    Sean Harris can play all the remaining roles for all I care. Amazing character actor. Damphair maybe?

    Micheletto was the heart and soul of that show IMO. Harris definitely knows how to provoke an emotional reaction in his audience–I just wanted to hug him each time he was on screen, even when he was stabbing someone!

    Damphair would be a good one, or maybe one of the Wildlings. Or Cotter Pyke? Could see him up at the Wall in some capacity. But he’d also make a great shifty courtier.

  316. Veltigar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle:
    If I can ask, what didn’t you like about it?
    And yes, we can dream! : )

    II hate the procedural elements of the show. You know the actual murder mysteries with those three researchers and Will doing his magic jump EVERY FREAKING time. Basically, if Mads Mikkelsen isn’t on the screen than I don’t care. He’s the best actor on that show, playing the most interesting character and he enhances everything. You say that “For me, the writing, storytelling and acting were great, and the visuals were absolutely stunning.” And for me that’s true for every scene Hannibal is in. The character even enhances the stunning visuals of the show IMO. The dark atmosphere feels totally out of place when Mads Mikkelsen isn’t on screen, but when he is than the pieces all fit. Hannibals office is the best set of the entire show (and one of the best sets on TV right now) and his own style is also very trilling (Seriously, one of the thrills I get of the show is seeing which awesome suit Hannibal wears today).

  317. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:44 pm | Permalink

    I 100% approve of this casting. I don’t recall her from Luther and haven’t seen Rome, so I can’t comment on her acting abilities, but based on her appearance she is perfect.
    Now, here is me list of preferred castings:
    season 4:
    David Wenham – Euron Greyjoy. He has the acting chops, is the right age, and could pass for one of Alfie Allen’s uncles
    Giancarlo Esposito – Brown Ben Plumm
    And I like to think that Mark Gatiss is playing Aeron Greyjoy

    season 5:
    James Purefoy or Ray Stevenson (preferably Ray) – Victarion Greyjoy
    Kevin McKidd – Jon Connington
    Ian McNeice – Wyman Manderly. Baron Vladamir Harkonnen as Wyman Manderly just seems perfect
    Edward James Olmos – Doran Martell
    Aimee Garcia – Arianne Martell
    Janina Gavankar – Nymeria Sand
    Jamie Campbell Bower – Aegon Targaryen

    Anything as long as they appear on the show at some point:
    John Hannah – maybe The Tattered Prince?
    Viggo Mortensen (he should have been Mance Rayder. Ciaran Hinds as Mance has been the worst casting in the show by far)

    To those who keep on suggesting Mads Mikkelsen for Euron Greyjoy: although he is a good actor and could easily pull off Euron, he doesn’t resemble Alfie Allen in the slightest.

  318. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Hannibal is a great show. I’ve loved every episode so far.

    Mr. Lemoncloak: how about Zuleikha Robinson as Arianne? would be a good match imo! have never heard of Indira, but she looks great! (really have to watch rome) kevin mckidd would be perfect as griff!

    I’m a big fan of Zuleikha Robinson. I could see her as Arianne. She was great in “Rome” as well. Excellent show, has lots of actors I’d love to see on GOT.

  319. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:54 pm | Permalink

    Off Topic:
    Gwendoline Christie (Brienne) and Daniel Portman (Podrick) have been seen filming together in Iceland. So this confirms that Pod does indeed join Brienne on the show, and that he will leave King’s Landing before the end of season 4. Maybe he flees the city when Tyrion get’s arrested instead of when he escapes? Anyway, I now believe that we could see the Crackclaw Point at least get set up this season, with the rest of her journey taking place over season 5. Now the only remaining question is whether Gendry will join them this season…

    Rose Leslie has also been seen in Iceland, confirming that she will be shooting scenes there. These will most likely be scenes with Tormund before the battle at Castle Black. I believe we will see Tormund send for reinforcements, and that Styr will then arrive to reinforce them before the battle.

    And finally, this interview came out:
    http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/07/25/hbo-to-george-r-r-martin-get-busy-writing/
    So can all of the people saying “HBO and D&D confirmed that it will only be 7 or 8 seasons, no more” please do us all a favour and shut up? This interview essentially confirms that the 80 hour/8 season figure that has been mentioned is just a very general off-handed estimate, not a definitive figure :P

  320. Arthur
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    This points to clear evidence that D&D are going to take House Martell seriously. They will have as many powerful characters as the other major houses thus far.

    I’m really happy that D&D aren’t cutting corners and are going to lift House Martell and Dorne up and showcase them with the same intensity as the other houses…

    I really hope we travel to Dorne in season 5 and the sand snakes are cast..,

  321. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    sherry: To the people who are suggesting Rufus Sewell and Jason Isaacs to be cast in GoT, I agree with you! Also, Colm Feore if he finishes the Borgias role.

    I like either actor for Euron Crow’s Eye. Only problem with Sewell is he’s 45 (Patrick Malahide is 68) and Isaacs is 50 (a bit closer). Ray Stevenson is 49 and could play Victarion w/out much problem, and Isaacs could work as Euron in that context. But I can see how they might want to skew a bit older given Malahide’s age.

    Sewell, if he can convincingly seem like John Bradley’s father (Bradley is 25, so it can work), would be a good one for the cruel Randyll Tarly.

  322. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    outdoorcats,

    And Euron is multi dimensional?Dude just needs to look sexy and blow.Hey, I think I was in a film that started out that way.

    He’s really not that multi dimensional, true – Victarion and Aeron have more dimensions than Euron, who is really just batshit pirate crazy, which is fine. So many characters, even if they truncate the Iron Islands/Dorne, that a bit of characterization-by-appearance is going to be necessary, and Euron’s a great one for that. Eyepatch, nuts, humiliates women and his brothers, and that’s that.

  323. Lightning Lord
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    I would love to see Thrones pick up alumni from “The Wire”

  324. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:13 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber: I like either actor for Euron Crow’s Eye. Only problem with Sewell is he’s 45 (Patrick Malahide is 68) and Isaacs is 50 (a bit closer). Ray Stevenson is 49 and could play Victarion w/out much problem, and Isaacs could work as Euron in that context. But I can see how they might want to skew a bit older given Malahide’s age.

    Sewell, if he can convincingly seem like John Bradley’s father (Bradley is 25, so it can work), would be a good one for the cruel Randyll Tarly.

    They could age the actors up a bit to be the uncles. Add me to the list who want Stevenson as Victarion.

  325. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu: Gwendoline Christie (Brienne) and Daniel Portman (Podrick) have been seen filming together in Iceland. So this confirms that Pod does indeed join Brienne on the show, and that he will leave King’s Landing before the end of season 4.

    This is good news. It’s one storyline that can easily be shifted, and then left aside for season 5 when they fill a million other things then.

  326. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber: He’s really not that multi dimensional, true – Victarion and Aeron have more dimensions than Euron, who is really just batshit pirate crazy, which is fine. So many characters, even if they truncate the Iron Islands/Dorne, that a bit of characterization-by-appearance is going to be necessary, and Euron’s a great one for that. Eyepatch, nuts, humiliates women and his brothers, and that’s that.

    Crazy is deceptively hard to play. It’s dangerously easy for it to become a caricature… Euron Sparrow as it were. So they need someone good. I have faith.

  327. Morg's soft bat
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    @ser tahu

    So what if mikkelsen doesent resemble alfie allen? Yara greyjoy didnt. It doesent matter what the look like. As long as they can portray the character well…

  328. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Bad, bad analogy.

    Jack Sparrow wasn’t meant to be crazy in the manical sense, he was based off Keith Richards, in the drugged out hippie sense.

  329. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck: Crazy is deceptively hard to play.It’s dangerously easy for it to become a caricature…Euron Sparrow as it were.So they need someone good.I have faith.

    No, you’re right about that much, you still need a good actor, it’s just that he isn’t tortured or conflicted like Aeron and not quite as jealous or stoic and resolute as Victarion.

  330. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu:
    Off Topic:
    Gwendoline Christie (Brienne) and Daniel Portman (Podrick) have been seen filming together in Iceland. So this confirms that Pod does indeed join Brienne on the show, and that he will leave King’s Landing before the end of season 4. Maybe he flees the city when Tyrion get’s arrested instead of when he escapes? Anyway, I now believe that we could see the Crackclaw Point at least get set up this season, with the rest of her journey taking place over season 5. Now the only remaining question is whether Gendry will join them this season…

    Yay for plot advancement! I think it’s fairly clear that Gendry will be the catalyst for her quest. Brienne figures she needs to find at least one daughter, and goes after Arya. Gendry could then eventually still end up with the Brotherhood.

    As I’ve said – some characters’ storylines won’t go past ASoS this season, but others will be well into AFFC/ADWD. At some points, there will be materials from 3 books in one episode.

  331. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Chickenduck,

    Bad, bad analogy.

    Jack Sparrow wasn’t meant to be crazy in the manical sense, he was based off Keith Richards, in the drugged out hippie sense.

    Yeah, I know, Jack Sparrow was quite well done in context.

    I just mean it’d be easy for Euron to become a generic “pirate” character.

  332. imlad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    OMG Yes!!!! Perfect! I’ve been dreaming of her on the show for a couple of years now!!! Sooo happy!!

  333. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:26 pm | Permalink

    Lightning Lord:
    I would love to see Thrones pick up alumni from “The Wire”

    Places Thrones needs to have direction connections to:

    The Wire – check, Mayor Carcetti, tho I’d love to have more.
    Deadwood – check, Dan Hildebrand, tho again, more. (Brian Cox? Could he be Griff? Older, sure, but why not?)
    Star Wars – check. John Glover.
    Lord of the Rings – Done. Sean Bean.
    Harry Potter – Yep, done. David Bradley (Argus Filch)
    Downton Abbey – Yepper. Rose Leslie and Iain Glen.
    The Sopranos — ??? Not gonna happen…

  334. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    And it doesnt take great acting to play crazy. Brad reminds Angelina this every time he dusts off her Academy Award.

    Now THAT is a good analogy.

  335. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:28 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber: Places Thrones needs to have direction connections to:

    The Wire – check, Mayor Carcetti, tho I’d love to have more.
    Deadwood – check, Dan Hildebrand, tho again, more. (Brian Cox? Could he be Griff? Older, sure, but why not?)
    Star Wars – check. John Glover.
    Lord of the Rings – Done. Sean Bean.
    Harry Potter – Yep, done. David Bradley (Argus Filch)
    Downton Abbey – Yepper. Rose Leslie and Iain Glen.
    The Sopranos — ??? Not gonna happen…

    Breaking Bad – Giancarlo Esposito for Doran ;)

  336. Rygar
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:30 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber,

    Gandolfini was my Mace before he passed. Ask the good folks at wicgeeks.

  337. imlad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    Looking good for Ray Stevenson (Victarion), Kevin McKidd (Jon Connington) and Ian McNeice (Wyman Manderly) :)

    McKidd and Purefoy have made it clear they do not intend to be on GoT (retaliation against HBO for canceling Rome).

    However, I would love to see Max Pirkis (young Octavian) join the cast in a season or two as Young Griff. And The Kindly Man could be played quite well by Nicholas Woodeson (Posca). Stevenson I always see as a Kettleblack…

  338. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:34 pm | Permalink

    Veltigar:
    II hate the procedural elements of the show. You know the actual murder mysteries with those three researchers and Will doing his magic jump EVERY FREAKING time. Basically, if Mads Mikkelsen isn’t on the screen than I don’t care. He’s the best actor on that show, playing the most interesting character and he enhances everything. You say that “For me, the writing, storytelling and acting were great, and the visuals were absolutely stunning.” And for me that’s true for every scene Hannibal is in. The character even enhances the stunning visuals of the show IMO. The dark atmosphere feels totally out of place when Mads Mikkelsen isn’t on screen, but when he is than the pieces all fit. Hannibals office is the best set of the entire show (and one of the best sets on TV right now) and his own style is also very trilling (Seriously, one of the thrills I get of the show is seeing which awesome suit Hannibal wears today).

    Thanks for the reply! (And yes, how the hell does the man make those plaids and horrendously wide ties work?)

    I honestly didn’t pay much attention to the procedural elements of the show, though I liked the dynamic between the three lab techs and Will. The core of the show was the relationship between Hannibal and Will, and the crime-of-the-week simply provided a backdrop for their interaction and back-and-forth, as well as Will’s complete mental breakdown (what did you make of Hugh Dancy’s performance, btw?). I thought Will’s “magic jump” was compelling stuff, not just because it kept reinforcing the image of Will-as-a-killer to mess with us a bit, but because it showed how far he could get into those heads, and the point at which he started to slip.

    But you bring up a really cool point–each scene did feel a little disjointed until Hannibal was present, be it a crime it or a dinner or a therapy session. Perhaps that was intentional. Will (and the audience) is trying to wrap his head around what’s happening to him and who this killer is who’s just out of his mind’s eye. The answer is staring him right in the face, omnipresent, and we’re supposed to be ill-at-ease anytime we aren’t with Hannibal, because nothing makes sense without Hannibal. He’s four steps ahead and holding all the cards, and we don’t want to lose our senses as Will is losing his, lose track of who’s pulling the strings. The visuals get bleaker, the music uneven, the dialogue’s less certain, everything feels a little wrong…and then we’re reminded of who the monster is again, and it stabilises us. I’m rambling a little now, and could be completely off the mark, but it makes a certain amount of sense as a film-making device.

    And I WANT THAT OFFICE. If I wandered onto the set, I seriously wouldn’t leave.

  339. imlad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: If the Sand Snakes come into the picture too, she’ll make a great contrast to what will be more than likely their younger, more impetuous look.

    Speaking of the Sand Snakes, anyone else want to see Simone Boyce as one of them?

  340. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber:
    Eyepatch, nuts, humiliates women and his brothers, and that’s that.

    He’s also incredibly charming and charismatic, a nutcase who makes the people around him forget he’s a nutcase and want to follow him. That would be really fun to watch!

  341. Tytos Lannister
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Kind of off topic but I’m really curious to see if they bring back Mark Stanley, Ben Crompton and Burn Gorman. It would be cool to see who lived and who died in the Night’s Watch mutiny scene.

  342. Arthur
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    imlad,

    Haha!

    Simone is pretty enough to be a sand snake and has the look… But can she act?

  343. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:53 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle,

    Yes. I hate the Greyjoy brothers, but at least Euron is fairly interesting. Victarion is a “dullard and a brute”(GRRM’s own words) and is only good for the comedy that is his stupidity. WHo knows, though, if Stevenson plays Victarion then I could grow to love the show’s version of the character. It wouldn’t be the first time this has happened. I was ‘meh’ towards Davos in the books, but absolutely love Liam Cunningham’s version of him. The same can be said of Alfie Allen’s Theon vs the book version(pre-ADWD).

  344. Apulia
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    Anyone see her in Kama Sutra? Her mother is Swiss by the way. Oops! Yes, some of you have. Missed that.

  345. the mighty hodor
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    I am an Australian and the accents in Pacific Rim were awful, it was the American version of an Australian Accent. Search for an interview with the Australian actor who plays the main guy in the show “Vikings” if you want a proper Aussie accent :)

  346. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Apulia,

    Swiss and part Genoese Italian. Regardless, she looks perfect.

  347. Greatjon of Slumber
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Chickenduck: Breaking Bad – Giancarlo Esposito for Doran ;)

    Hmmm…I don’t quite see him as old enough. I still see John Rhys-Davies…though he may be too old.

    But we could have an Oz connection if Adewale Akinouye-Agbaje (Simon Adebisi) is cast as Moqorro. Or a Homicide connection if it’s Yaphet Kotto.

    Tyrion Pimpslap: WHo knows, though, if Stevenson plays Victarion then I could grow to love the show’s version of the character. It wouldn’t be the first time this has happened. I was ‘meh’ towards Davos in the books, but absolutely love Liam Cunningham’s version of him. The same can be said of Alfie Allen’s Theon vs the book version(pre-ADWD).

    Amen. Plus, if they get a badass as Moqorro, you get quite the comedy team there. And Victarion is good for really 2 moments – when he storms the Shield Islands and cleaves everyone in half, and when he emerges from below deck with his healed smoking hand, and points at the maester and says “That one. Cut his throat and throw him over the side.” FUUUUUUUUUUCK.

  348. Arthur
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:07 pm | Permalink

    the mighty hodor,

    Travis Trimmel I think is the actor’s name who plays Ragnar and he is awesome!

  349. Lex
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Easteros bunny,

    Okay, thanks for the explanation. I think the Sand Snakes are pretty cool, but I thought you were overreacting a bit. :)

  350. Chickenduck
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:22 pm | Permalink

    Tytos Lannister:
    Kind of off topic but I’m really curious to see if they bring back Mark Stanley, Ben Crompton and Burn Gorman.It would be cool to see who lived and who died in the Night’s Watch mutiny scene.

    They could bring ‘em back as wights ;)

  351. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:23 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Isabelle,

    Yes. I hate the Greyjoy brothers, but at least Euron is fairly interesting. Victarion is a “dullard and a brute”(GRRM’s own words) and is only good for the comedy that is his stupidity.WHo knows, though, if Stevenson plays Victarion then I could grow to love the show’s version of the character. It wouldn’t be the first time this has happened.I was ‘meh’ towards Davos in the books, but absolutely love Liam Cunningham’s version of him. The same can be said of Alfie Allen’s Theon vs the book version(pre-ADWD).

    Completely agree with you about book!Davos–he had some great moments with Stannis, and later with Manderly, but came across as rather dull. Cunningham injected a much-needed dose of personality. : )

    I’m sure someone has said this before, but it’ll be interesting to see how D&D choose to use the Greyjoy brothers. If they simply need someone to rally the Ironborn and travel to Dany, they could do it with one character. What I loved about Euron and Victarion, however, was how they were so different from one another, and how they played off and annoyed each other (Euron doing the majority of the tormenting, obviously!). It would be such fun to see their dynamic play out on screen, so I hope they cast them both!

  352. Friend Of fire
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:45 pm | Permalink

    I love this lady and she was brilliant in rome, but it is quite clear that black or mulatto people will get no kingdom that is part of the Seven and honestly as a fan of this series it saddens me

  353. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    Friend Of fire:
    but it is quite clear that black or mulatto people will get no kingdom that is part of the Seven and honestly as a fan of this series it saddens me

    You mean just like it is in the books?

  354. Isabelle
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    the mighty hodor:

    Joshua Taylor,
    I am an Australian and the accents in Pacific Rim were awful, it was the American version of an Australian Accent. Search for an interview with the Australian actor who plays the main guy in the show “Vikings” if you want a proper Aussie accent :)

    Arthur:

    Travis Trimmel I think is the actor’s name who plays Ragnar and he is awesome!

    Travis Fimmel:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMK_v3zhd7w

    Not the best example of his speech because there’s a hint of the accent he uses for Vikings, but it works.

    He could have played Aegon when he was younger:

    http://fashion.lilithezine.com/images/Travis-Fimmel-18.jpg

  355. imlad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:56 pm | Permalink

    Arthur:
    imlad,

    Haha!

    Simone is pretty enough to be a sand snake and has the look… But can she act?

    Non-speaking role would work. And I can’t imagine she would say no if offered, she seems such a geek!

  356. imlad
    Posted July 25, 2013 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    But we could have an Oz connection if Adewale Akinouye-Agbaje (Simon Adebisi) is cast as Moqorro. Or a Homicide connection if it’s Yaphet Kotto.

    Amen. Plus, if they get a badass as Moqorro,you get quite the comedy team there. And Victarion is good for really 2 moments – when he storms the Shield Islands and cleaves everyone in half, and when he emerges from below deck with his healed smoking hand, and points at the maester and says “That one. Cut his throat and throw him over the side.” FUUUUUUUUUUCK.

    There is only one Moqorro, and his name is Big Driis the Londoner (aka Idris Elba).

  357. Atomix
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    Friend Of fire: mix

    Dark skinned people in this world come from Sothorys and the Summer Islands. I guess equatorial and southern? See attached Map. Due south from Valaryia and Ghis. Essos and Westeroes are both light skinned European. The Valaryians were the whitest and they are from southern essos. The First Men came from South Western Essos into Dorne, The Andals came from North Western Essos and the Rhyonar came from central Essos between Valarya and Andalos. Pentos, Bravoos, Myr are all white too for the most part. From Illyrio on. Then to the far east of Essos you have darker skinned people, Asiatic in description like the Dothraki, Xi Ti, and Lhazareeen. And the people of Ib are described like the native peoples of Siberia and Alaska, Northern Canada.

    http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130424093539/iceandfire/images/3/35/Sothoryos_location.png

    Lys, Ghis, and Volantis are the most likely place to really find people of color in these stories and this lore because they all heavily engage in the Slave Trade and have been for thousands of years. Thats probaly why they changed Saan and Xaro from white characters to black ones. The actors were excellent and it worked with the Lore.

    Brown Ben Plumm is a great example of how little people and George care about race. He’s a Valaryian descendant with a Lannister Name and he’s black

  358. Hodor's Bastard
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:14 am | Permalink

    Ms. Varma/Ellaria is a stunningly-attractive companion for RV, especially when one considers that her mysterious character is the mother of four sand snakes! Will they highlight her motherhood, her “notorious” sexuality or her sympathy for Elia? All three? Hope she matches the RV in attitude and vigor. Also, I hope she is the one who poisons the end of RV’s spear before the duel.

  359. Ragman's Harbor
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    hey Wic, found a pretty interesting interview with George. Not sure if you’ve seen it.

    http://observationdeck.io9.com/george-r-r-martin-the-complete-unedited-interview-886117845

    George is confident we will get Areo Oakheart and Doran in the tv series. nice.

  360. Topdecker577
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    Josh Parker: David O’Hara

    I think a problem with O’Hara would be his accent, I have never seen him in a role without his heavy Scottish accent.

  361. Mr. Masamune
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    Perfect casting. For some reason, it always brings a smile to my face when I see Rome alumni making their way to GoT. More, I say! More!

    imlad: McKidd and Purefoy have made it clear they do not intend to be on GoT (retaliation against HBO for canceling Rome).

    Purefoy followed up that quote by later claiming it wasn’t made all that seriously.

    Still, with how publically he made that repudiation of GoT, even if in jest, he probably knocked himself out of the running for any potential roles. A stupid move on his part, as it was for Kevin McKidd, who would make for an ideal Griff.

  362. Cary Storm
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    imlad: McKidd and Purefoy have made it clear they do not intend to be on GoT (retaliation against HBO for canceling Rome).

    However, I would love to see Max Pirkis (young Octavian) join the cast in a season or two as Young Griff. And The Kindly Man could be played quite well by Nicholas Woodeson (Posca). Stevenson I always see as a Kettleblack…

    Max Pirkis is 24 years old. A bit of a stretch for that character.

  363. Greg
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    She is definitely closer to how I pictured to Dornish than Pedro Pascal, and while I’ve never actually seen her act, I’m very excited about this casting. Ellaria is one of my favorite minor characters, and seeing as how they’ve gotten a reasonably well-known actress to play her, maybe she’ll have more material than in the books.

  364. Darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:24 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    Emilia is 26 playing what 18-ish?
    Aegon should be 2 years or so older than Dany (even if some think he looks younger). I can easily see them casting someone in their early or mid-20′s for the role.

  365. Chickenduck
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:25 am | Permalink

    Atomix

    Not exactly. Brown Ben is supposed to be of mixed race, with ancestors from all over the place, including Westeros and Valyria, but also Dothraki, Ibbenese, Summer Islander etc. So his colour is totally consistent with the “ASOIAF rules of Genetics”.

    Most of the rest you wrote I agree with though, I always assumed that the Free Cities represented continental Europe (Venice, Genoa, Paris etc), with darker-skinned peoples being native to further east… The Dothraki and Lhazareen being Central Asian, Yi Ti being East Asian etc etc.

  366. Chickenduck
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:33 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    Just saw Pacific Rim. I was surprised to see an Australian character in the film and couldn’t put my finger on who the actor was. And it was Max Martini the American character actor. His Aussie was pretty sweet and I have to tell ya, he would be an awesome Old Griff.

    No.

    (No to his accent being accurate. His acting as Old Griff might be fine).

    As I’ve said before, as an Australian, there are almost no foreigners who can do a believable Australian accent. Exceptions include Rhys Ifans and Danny Bhoy.

    I have almost never heard an American do a passable Australian accent (well, technically there are a few Australians like me that also have a US passport, but that doesn’t count)… The closest I can think of would be when Robert Downey Jnr was parodying Russell Crowe at the very start of Tropic Thunder (before he’s in blackface).

    There is a phrase for it in Australia, someone’s accent being “knifey-spoony bad”. See the Simpsons episode for further details.

  367. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:58 am | Permalink

    Mr. Lemoncloak:
    how about Zuleikha Robinson as Arianne? would be a good match imo! have never heard of Indira, but she looks great! (really have to watch rome) kevin mckidd would be perfect as griff!

    Agreed.
    This actress was on my short list too , along with Lynn Collins ( for Arianne Martell ).

  368. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:07 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    LMAO. You should listen to New Zealand actor Jermaine Clement’s poorly rendered
    Australian accent during a ” Flight of the Conchord ” episodes. Then you’ll decide
    whose worse in that category of botched accents (: Robert Downey Jr is definitely
    a close 2nd or 3rd.

  369. princess val
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:08 am | Permalink

    This is a brilliant choice for Ellaria, completely flawless. I can’t wait to see what the costume department does with the Dornish! They’ve done such a good job creating distinctive looks for each region. I’m especially excited to see how Cersei is going to snark at/about her, the way she did with Margaery.

  370. Chickenduck
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:24 am | Permalink

    Mr. Lemoncloak:
    how about Zuleikha Robinson as Arianne?

    I only know her from LOST. She was ok in that, I guess. I was more excited by her offsider Saïd Taghmaoui, who was one of my Oberyn fancasts.

  371. loco73
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:28 am | Permalink

    Seven Hells Bells,

    That “chick from 300″ has a name, Lena Headey…and as much as I liked Polly Walker as Atia in “ROME”, Lena was the perfect casting choice for Cersei.

    As for this casting, yes indeed, not only am I glad to have another “ROME” alumn join the cast, but having Indira Varma in particular! She is a good actress and soo beautiful and sensual! Another home run from Nina Gold and Robert Sterne! She will make for a great Ellaria!

    Feast your eyes on Indira…some pics from “ROME”:

    http://www.toutlecine.com/images/star/0007/00077698-indira-varma.html

    http://www.toutlecine.com/images/star/0007/00077698-indira-varma.html

    http://www.toutlecine.com/images/star/0007/00077698-indira-varma.html

    Excellent news!

    http://www.toutlecine.com/images/star/0007/00077698-indira-varma.html

    http://www.toutlecine.com/images/star/0007/00077698-indira-varma.html

    http://www.toutlecine.com/images/star/0007/00077698-indira-varma.html

    http://www.toutlecine.com/images/star/0007/00077698-indira-varma.html

  372. loco73
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck,

    Zuleikha Robinson was also in “ROME”, she played Gaia in the second season.

  373. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:39 am | Permalink

    loco73,

    I appreciate her from ” Namesake ” starring Irrfan Khan and ” Homeland “.
    Glad she’s rotating through different film projects. She’s pretty effectual
    and likely one to rise above the GoT script.

  374. WildSeed
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:42 am | Permalink

    princess val: I can’t wait to see what the costume department does with the Dornish! They’ve done such a good job creating distinctive looks for each region. I’m especially excited to see how Cersei is going to snark at/about her, the way she did with Margaery.

    Me too.

  375. Ren Snow
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:48 am | Permalink

    Khal-A-Bunga: operated to this point, it could be someone as minor as Mago, but it could also be someone like Bronn, who really doesn’t have anything to do after this coming season. Unless they give him the role of another character from the books (I’ve seen some suggest sending him to Dorne to guard Myrcella, but I think that’s unlikely, and doesn’t make all that much sense), there just isn’t anything for him to do after Tyrion’s trial.

      

    When Myrcella is sent to Dorne there’s a Kingsguard (“Arys Oakheart”)with her.

  376. Trearu
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    Very strange they casted her. She does not seem to add anything to the story and a sand snake could have accompanied Oberyn just as well.

  377. Johan Sporre
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 3:09 am | Permalink

    I’m so happy with her casting!

  378. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 3:15 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm: Max Pirkis is 24 years old. A bit of a stretch for that character.

    Young Griff is supposed to be the same age as Jon an Robb, and slightly older than Daenerys. Kit Harrington and Emilia Clarke are 26, and Richard Madden is 27, so 24 is not a stretch for Young Griff (don’t get me wrong, I am not supporting the idea of Max Pirkis as Young Griff, I personally support Jamie Campbell Bower for the role).

    Trearu,
    It adds a love interest for Oberyn making that dynamic more interesting. They can then have her take over the role of a sand snake after she returns to Dorne.

  379. The Dear Hunter
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 3:21 am | Permalink

    Fuck James Purefoy. There I said it and sorry about the vulgarities but honestly the guy sounds like a complete tool. Anyone who would be asinine enough to turn down a role on a show like this, were they offered one and they didn’t have more pressing obligations, is a complete idiot. Not only does he not want to be part of it, but he talks shit because he is pissed “his show” got cancelled years before a better one came around. Stop supporting this ass everyone, good actor or not. I’d much rather see any one of you guys in a role than Purefoy.

  380. The Dear Hunter
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 3:23 am | Permalink

    To hell with James Purefoy. There I said it and honestly the guy sounds like a complete tool. Anyone who would be asinine enough to turn down a role on a show like this, were they offered one and they didn’t have more pressing obligations, is a complete idiot. Not only does he not want to be part of it, but he talks shit because he is pissed “his show” got cancelled years before a better one came around. Stop supporting this ass everyone, good actor or not. I’d much rather see any one of you guys in a role than Purefoy.

  381. Pau
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 3:57 am | Permalink

    The Dear Hunter:
    Fuck James Purefoy. There I said it and sorry about the vulgarities but honestly the guy sounds like a complete tool. Anyone who would be asinine enough to turn down a role on a show like this, were they offered one and they didn’t have more pressing obligations, is a complete idiot. Not only does he not want to be part of it, but he talks shit because he is pissed “his show” got cancelled years before a better one came around. Stop supporting this ass everyone, good actor or not. I’d much rather see any one of you guys in a role than Purefoy.

    The Dear Hunter:
    To hell with James Purefoy. There I said it and honestly the guy sounds like a complete tool. Anyone who would be asinine enough to turn down a role on a show like this, were they offered one and they didn’t have more pressing obligations, is a complete idiot. Not only does he not want to be part of it, but he talks shit because he is pissed “his show” got cancelled years before a better one came around. Stop supporting this ass everyone, good actor or not. I’d much rather see any one of you guys in a role than Purefoy.

    If you keep censoring yourself in 3 or 4 posts you will start the sentence with “I love James Purefoy!” :P

  382. Pau Soriano
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 3:58 am | Permalink

    Trearu:
    She does not seem to add anything to the story and a sand snake could have accompanied Oberyn just as well.

    Sexxxx…..Oberyn can hardly fuck a sand snake ;)

  383. vlad
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 4:00 am | Permalink

    A perfect looking cast. That’s what Dorne is supposed to be: variety. They don’t look the same, but they are united by their culture. I would be very impressed if Oberyn and Ellaria have the same weird accent. And they train all their future Dornish to use it. (fingers crossed)

  384. Dorian
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 4:54 am | Permalink

    Felix:
    Seonaidh Ceanneidigh,

    But didn’t Purefoy say something about not wanting to be part of the show?

    Yes he did, but it was a joke, and I must lol at every “%@#$%@#$% James Purefoy!” whine because they obviously didn’t read the next to immediate clarification that it was, in fact, a joke.

  385. ATG
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 5:08 am | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming:
    Ray Stevenson as Victarion and Jason Isaacs as Euron! If this happens I will not sleep for a week because of the excitement!

    THIS

  386. Nick
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 5:14 am | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Hear hear. To me she ranks up there with Dance, Dinklage, Liam Cunningham and Maisie Williams as the ones I just sorta bow down to.

    Jumping on to the Lena-band wagon here – Book Cersei is little more than an evil bitch cypher with penis envy; in Lena’s hands the expanded TV version of the character has a pathos and heart the book version never had for me; her conversation with Robert in season 01 with it’s tired resignation, the near-poisoning of Tommen in season 02 with that mix of resolve and heart-break etc. TV Cersei is just as self-serving and ruthless as the book version, but there’s a real person in pain at the root of her actions, thanks in a huge part to Lena’s portrayal.

    And, she’s managed to make Cersei witty to boot! Some of her deliveries, down to a well timed eye-roll, are hilarious.

    And to get back on topic, congrats to Indira, she was awesome in Rome and will bring great things to GOT!

  387. Summer Is Coming
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 5:22 am | Permalink

    Darquemode,

    Show Daenerys is older than Book Daenerys and the chronology is changed. I remember in S2, the Spice King asks Dany if she ever saw the Iron Throne, and she says yes, and that she was a few years old when she left Westeros. We all know that book Dany was born at the end of the rebellion. She’s not very “stormborn” in the show :P

    Now, Young Griff can be younger than her, him being a/the newborn at the time of his “death”. So a younger actor can be cast. I mean one in his early 20′s who can play a 17 year old, or 18. By now in the show Dany might be like 20 years old.

  388. Chickenduck
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 5:30 am | Permalink

    loco73:
    Chickenduck,

    Zuleikha Robinson was also in “ROME”, she played Gaia in the second season.

    Rome is still on my list of things to watch… Have to catch up on a lot of Breaking Bad, Deadwood, Boardwalk Empire and The Wire first!!

  389. Paul
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 6:22 am | Permalink

    Haven’t watched or heard of her, I’d better find some clips.

  390. Aoife
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    mariamb: One question: why is Hibberd getting all the GOT scoops lately? Has it been that way in the past?

    The casting scoops – because Entertainment Weekly is owned by HBO’s parent company. ;-P

  391. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    caoimay: Someone said David O’Hara for Victarion and I can also see that working if they don’t get Stevenson.

    That was me (for Euron, though he could make Victarion work as well), and yeah, the Scottish accent might be an issue. Though he has the look and attitude, and for me was one of the best things in the final season of THE TUDORS. I could still see him in GoT, but the accent makes it more likely to be a northern or wildling role.

    how about Zuleikha Robinson as Arianne? would be a good match imo! have never heard of Indira, but she looks great! (really have to watch rome) kevin mckidd would be perfect as griff!

    As mentioned above, she was in ROME, had no problems with nudity and was pretty good. She’s 36 now (whilse Arianne is 22 or 23, IIRC), which may not be an issue. It might make her anger at her father not arranging a good marriage for her a lot more intense and believable.

  392. Adam Whitehead
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 6:37 am | Permalink

    Oh, and here is the direct link to where Purefoy said the GoT stuff with McKidd was in jest.

  393. jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming:
    Darquemode,

    Show Daenerys is older than Book Daenerys and the chronology is changed. I remember in S2, the Spice King asks Dany if she ever saw the Iron Throne, and she says yes, and that she was a few years old when she left Westeros. We all know that book Dany was born at the end of the rebellion. She’s not very “stormborn” in the show :P

    Now, Young Griff can be younger than her, him being a/the newborn at the time of his “death”. So a younger actor can be cast. I mean one in his early 20′s who can play a 17 year old, or 18. By now in the show Dany might be like 20 years old.

    And when did that scene with Dany happen? I don’t remember it at all. I’m sorry but I think the added TV show years are between Robert’s Rebellion and the events of the series and not before Robert’s Rebellion.

  394. Veltigar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 7:01 am | Permalink

    Isabelle:
    I honestly didn’t pay much attention to the procedural elements of the show, though I liked the dynamic between the three lab techs and Will. The core of the show was the relationship between Hannibal and Will, and the crime-of-the-week simply provided a backdrop for their interaction and back-and-forth, as well as Will’s complete mental breakdown (what did you make of Hugh Dancy’s performance, btw?). I thought Will’s “magic jump” was compelling stuff, not just because it kept reinforcing the image of Will-as-a-killer to mess with us a bit, but because it showed how far he could get into those heads, and the point at which he started to slip.

    I’m not a big fan of Dancy’s performance to be honest. He just doesn’t touch any buttons for me. In fact I would say that his performance leaves me uninterested in the character. The greatest problem to me is that I just can’t see why Hannibal is so interested in him (I know it’s because of the pure empathy thing and all but still), because Will is such a bland character. Therefore I feel that he’s unable to really carry a scene, which is a problem for the procedural elements of the show, since Will needs to carry things in those scenes (My favorite episodes are the ones that really focus on Will and Hannibal, but the filler episodes with less Hannibal and more emphasis on the killer-of-the-week like episode 2 IIRC I find truly horrible)
    I hate the magic jumps because they are so fucking repetitive. It’s basically the same thing that happens over and over again. And I find it overly convenient that he never picks up anything about Hannibal. I also don’t understand why they use the magic jump only in the context of the killer-of-the-week thing. Why doesn’t he use the magic jump to get inside of the head of other people (like for instance Alanna Bloom). I think the conflict between the dark side of him (which peaked into the serial killers mind) and the good side (which peaked into the people he loves/respects) would be far more interesting than his serial killer dreams.
    I also found that the magic jump just didn’t work to make Will into a darker character. Yes, he lost some time but I don’t think the writers were able to mess with us, since I never believed for one bit that Will was a killer.
    And to top it all of none of the dark dreams and time lapses are Will’s fault. He just have a disease which makes him go bonkers. But luckily it’s a curable disease so he’ll be alright. It’s a bit too convenient, it would have been better if there actually was something wrong with him mentally.
    Another thing that bugs me is the outlandish character some of the serial killers have (seriously Shroom guy, angel dude and the woman who turned kids into killers) and the fact that they are caught within one episode. In real life it would take more time to find a serial killer (but since it’s TV I’m willing to let that complaint go) and they wouldn’t be so ridiculously outlandish (more dangerous and sleezy). I feel that some of these serial killers are just written to make room for a bunch of bad jokes with their CSI team.

    Isabelle:
    But you bring up a really cool point–each scene did feel a little disjointed until Hannibal was present, be it a crime it or a dinner or a therapy session. Perhaps that was intentional. Will (and the audience) is trying to wrap his head around what’s happening to him and who this killer is who’s just out of his mind’s eye. The answer is staring him right in the face, omnipresent, and we’re supposed to be ill-at-ease anytime we aren’t with Hannibal, because nothing makes sense without Hannibal. He’s four steps ahead and holding all the cards, and we don’t want to lose our senses as Will is losing his, lose track of who’s pulling the strings. The visuals get bleaker, the music uneven, the dialogue’s less certain, everything feels a little wrong…and then we’re reminded of who the monster is again, and it stabilises us. I’m rambling a little now, and could be completely off the mark, but it makes a certain amount of sense as a film-making device.
    And I WANT THAT OFFICE. If I wandered onto the set, I seriously wouldn’t leave.

    If it’s intentional than it’s poorly done IMO. That they change the music, the tone and the atmosphere whenever Hannibal comes on is quite obvious and a very natural move. Hannibal is the devil on this show (he has a very Lucifer vibe) but that doesn’t mean that the parts of the show in which we don’t see Hannibal should be so lame (it doesn’t feel disjointed to me, just plain old boring). I mean we, the audience, already know that Hannibal is the one pulling the strings and I never felt like I was that involved in his “seduction” of Will (it’s a bit like watching a rat race through a mace) when he’s not there. Again this has to do with the fact that for me, Will isn’t compelling enough as a character to really care for. When Hannibal comes on that al changes, he literally takes over the room (Mads has phenomenal stage presence if you ask me) and the “seduction” becomes extremely interesting because of his presence.

    Isabelle:
    And I WANT THAT OFFICE. If I wandered onto the set, I seriously wouldn’t leave.

    Oh, I want that office to :p

  395. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    Adam Whitehead,

    Yeah I’ve seen Purefoy claim it was in jest, but I still don’t really believe him. He went on far too long about it. I think he had a few drinks and was talking trash and then when the article came out, he realized he made a big mistake. An offhand joke doesn’t go on for like a paragraph and involve a backstory also attributing remarks to a costar who I’m guessing would be annoyed by that.
    But that said, I still want McKidd for GoT. :)

  396. outdoorcats
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 7:24 am | Permalink

    Veltigar,

    Personally, for me, the heart of the show is Will. I love watching Hannibal, but I prefer Will as a character – so obviously I completely disagree. I think the show is a masterpiece of psychological horror but also a masterpiece of empathy; the key to the show is that, like Will, it can empathize with those who don’t necessarily feel empathy themselves. Also Will is one of the better depictions of someone with Asperger’s/borderline Aspys, IMO, so that’s nice.

    Rygar,

    Euron is a big role. I suspect that he’ll be the closest thing to a main human antagonist of the series, and that a lot of the final two books will come down to him v. Dany. They need to get an incredible actor to play him. IMO.

  397. Turncloak
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 8:04 am | Permalink

    Artie’s Glasses: Link? I know Purefoy was the only one of the two to make any comments, but they sure didn’t seem to need any context, and I’ve never heard of him taking them back. Wouldn’t surprise me, though. He’s not exactly in a position to look down on ANY roles.

    Here’s the link. Fury might have convinced ne that he is lieing here however https://twitter.com/JamesPurefoy/statuses/294234981348294656

  398. Lady of Highgarden
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,
    Yeah, that and how on earth could this be interpreted as a joke anyway? Maybe I just lack a sense of humour, but “I’m not going to do this show even if I’m asked” doesn’t sound like a joke. Where’s the humour in that? There was no mention in the article of him being sarcastic or anything, either.

    I haven’t watched Rome, so the only thing I’ve ever seen this guy in is an ancient Sharpe episode with Sean Bean and he wasn’t very good in it either. I couldn’t care less about anything he has to say about GOT or anything else and I wasn’t even really interested in this story, before he started claiming he was joking, which I just don’t get. Where’s the joke? What’s so funny about what he said?

  399. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Nick: Jumping on to the Lena-band wagon here – Book Cersei is little more than an evil bitch cypher with penis envy; in Lena’s hands the expanded TV version of the character has a pathos and heart the book version never had for me; her conversation with Robert in season 01 with it’s tired resignation, the near-poisoning of Tommen in season 02 with that mix of resolve and heart-break etc. TV Cersei is just as self-serving and ruthless as the book version, but there’s a real person in pain at the root of her actions, thanks in a huge part to Lena’s portrayal.

    And GRRM does flesh out that character- her stuff in AFfC and ADwD are the strongest parts of those two books, IMHO. And that stuff dovetails amazingly with Lena’s performance – when we hit that stuff, she’s going to knock it out of the park. If a bunch of us were saying Season 3 was going to belong to Jaime (it did, though Tywin nearly stole it out from under him), and Season 4 is going to be very much a Tyrion season, Season 5 is set up to be a Cersei showcase.

  400. Kyrenna
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:11 am | Permalink

    She looks perfect for the role to me :) happy they keep Ellaria in, too.

    No, I haven’t read 400 replies.

  401. jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    Kyrenna:
    She looks perfect for the role to me :) happy they keep Ellaria in, too.

    No, I haven’t read 400 replies.

    I did and I feel bad for it…

  402. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,
    I would strongly disagree on that point. In fact, I believe that the only POV in those two books less bearable than Cersei was Brienne. From a writing standpoint I believe that the Theon chapters were the best, and from a story/character development standpoint I would argue that Jon’s chapters were the best.

  403. Rygar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Kyrenna,

    That means you missed my astute observations.

  404. jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu:
    GreatJon of Slumber,
    I would strongly disagree on that point. In fact, I believe that the only POV in those two books less bearable than Cersei was Brienne. From a writing standpoint I believe that the Theon chapters were the best, and from a story/character development standpoint I would argue that Jon’s chapters were the best.

    Theon takes it all around, but Jon to me was one of the most boring to read. Not much happened until the end, and yet GRRM was intent in making him the most prominent character in ADWD. Cersei’s chapters became better near the end, and both of the ADWD ones were fantastic. Brienne suffered the same fate as Jon, and I definitely agree on that point.

  405. jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:35 am | Permalink

    Rygar:
    Kyrenna,

    That means you missed my astute observations.

    You were on a roll there XD

  406. Rygar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:36 am | Permalink

    Agreed. Thank you.

    Ser Tahu:
    GreatJon of Slumber,
    I would strongly disagree on that point. In fact, I believe that the only POV in those two books less bearable than Cersei was Brienne. From a writing standpoint I believe that the Theon chapters were the best, and from a story/character development standpoint I would argue that Jon’s chapters were the best.

  407. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    Wasn’t Zuleikha Robinson the female cop on New Amsterdam?

  408. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:48 am | Permalink

    jentario,
    Both Brienne and Jon’s chapters were rather character driven, so there wasn’t always much happening within the chapters (although Jon’s chapters had a lot going on offscreen). The difference between them is that although we learnt more about Brienne she didn’t really change or progress as a character, whilst with Jon we really saw him mature and come into his own, which I found really interesting. I never really cared for Jon’s chapters in the first three books (he wasn’t bad, but he never really stood out), but in book 5 (or more specifically from him leading the Watch from the top of the Wall in book 3 onwards) he became my favourite character and one of my favourite POV’s.

  409. Rygar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,
    You are thinking of Det Greggs and Amsterdam, Mr Colvin. ;)

    Omar comin’

  410. Vikestad
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    It’s not Purefoy’s fault that some you are unable to see what funny is. This was apparent, even just after that interview came out. Some of you just love the drama.

  411. Teresa
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:03 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: Hannibal is a great show. I’ve loved every episode so far.I’m a big fan of Zuleikha Robinson. I could see her as Arianne. She was great in “Rome” as well. Excellent show, has lots of actors I’d love to see on GOT.

    And appropriately enough, she also co-starred with Nikolaj Coster-Waldau on the FOX TV series “New Amsterdam”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam_(TV_series)

    ETA:Joshua Taylor beat me to it.

  412. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:05 am | Permalink

    Teresa,

    Beat you to it! But you had the link and the confirmation so you win this round!

  413. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    What up Bird?

  414. Rygar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    H
    Joshua Taylor,

    Have you heard the word?

  415. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:16 am | Permalink

    Another NCW possible casting connection: Jason Isaacs played Captain Steele in Black Hawk Down and Nicolaj played one of the two doomed Delta Force snipers that went into to save the pilot played by Ron Eldard. Amazing scene. NCW’s character was honoured posthumously with the congressional medal of
    Honour.

  416. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:18 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    :-)

  417. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Teresa,

    Much obliged!

  418. bon
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    sherry:
    Also, Colm Feore if he finishes the Borgias role.

    This is a joke, yes? You probably don’t know that Borgias were cancelled!!! I want season 4, but chances for next season are very low.

  419. Rygar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:32 am | Permalink

    If I can’t have Isaacs, then I want Danny Huston for Euron. Looks even more like Malahide, however he does not fit my mental image of Eury. But if anyone has seen the Proposition (2005), a fucking great actor. I know his complexion is a bit dark for an Iron Born, but…. ah fuck it.

  420. mariamb18
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:50 am | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury:
    I’m a big fan of Zuleikha Robinson. I could see her as Arianne. She was great in “Rome” as well. Excellent show, has lots of actors I’d love to see on GOT.

    Ehh. I’ve had enough of Robinson, especially after her work on “Homeland” which consisted of stomping around in high heels.

    Personally, I think that she is too old for Arianne…but clearly others think otherwise.

  421. Arkash
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Greatjon of Slumber: Places Thrones needs to have direction connections to:

    The Wire – check, Mayor Carcetti, tho I’d love to have more.
    Deadwood – check, Dan Hildebrand, tho again, more. (Brian Cox? Could he be Griff? Older, sure, but why not?)
    Star Wars – check. John Glover.
    Lord of the Rings – Done. Sean Bean.
    Harry Potter – Yep, done. David Bradley (Argus Filch)
    Downton Abbey – Yepper. Rose Leslie and Iain Glen.
    The Sopranos — ??? Not gonna happen…

    Doctor Who – Half the cast ! ^^

  422. bon
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Summer Is Coming,

    Summer Is Coming:
    Darquemode,

    Show Daenerys is older than Book Daenerys and the chronology is changed. I remember in S2, the Spice King asks Dany if she ever saw the Iron Throne, and she says yes, and that she was a few years old when she left Westeros. We all know that book Dany was born at the end of the rebellion. She’s not very “stormborn” in the show :P

    Now, Young Griff can be younger than her, him being a/the newborn at the time of his “death”. So a younger actor can be cast. I mean one in his early 20′s who can play a 17 year old, or 18. By now in the show Dany might be like 20 years old.

    You are wrong in many points. 1st Daenerys never said such thing, she said that her father sat on the thrones before he was murdered. 2nd she left Westeros when she was a baby (not a child, but baby) and 3rd Dragonstone is still Westeros if you don’t remember, she fled from there to Free Cities.

  423. Jake Umber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    At the 6 minute mark in this video, you can see Brienne and Podrick filming in Iceland!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU1opUjA7_g#at=364

    So awesome.

  424. Gaius Baltar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Zuleikha Robinson is fine actress, i liked her on Rome, Lost and even Homeland, but she is way too old for Arianne, that character should not be aged, her story arch is all about maturing into responsible person. Also her age need to be close to age of Sand snakes.

  425. Jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Gaius Baltar:
    Zuleikha Robinson is fine actress, i liked her on Rome, Lost and even Homeland, but she is way too old for Arianne, that character should not be aged, her story arch is all about maturing into responsible person. Also her age need to be close to age of Sand snakes.

    I agree. The actress should be about the same age as Emilia.

  426. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu:
    GreatJon of Slumber,
    I would strongly disagree on that point. In fact, I believe that the only POV in those two books less bearable than Cersei was Brienne. From a writing standpoint I believe that the Theon chapters were the best, and from a story/character development standpoint I would argue that Jon’s chapters were the best.

    Wow, interesting. I think Cersei’s stuff was riveting, to see this slow breakdown she experienced, and find it amongst the most fascinating and about the best stuff I’m looking forward to for Season 5. Agreed that Brienne was the weakest, however.

  427. Michel
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Jake Umber,

    I think I saw Gendry with Brienne.

  428. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Ser Tahu: The difference between them is that although we learnt more about Brienne she didn’t really change or progress as a character,

    Agreed. Couple that with uninteresting companions, and the only really essential stuff becomes the Quiet Isle, Septon Meribald (who I really enjoyed, and served as a great way of bringing home the despair of war and soldiering), and Randyll Tarly. Much of the rest is a dead-end, and if they are indeed shifting that into Season 4, it’ll help b/c it’ll leave some time for exploration of other characters in Season 5.

  429. BelwasBlues
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    I’ve never gotten this. Ray has SO much charisma. Why waste it?

  430. Jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    Jake Umber,

    I think I saw Gendry with Brienne.

    Where? In the video? I don’t think so…

  431. Jake Umber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    Your eyes deceive you, then. Are you watching on a cell phone or something? It’s 100% Daniel Portman, aka. Podrick Payne.

  432. WeirwoodTreeHugger
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber: Wow, interesting. I think Cersei’s stuff was riveting, to see this slow breakdown she experienced, and find it amongst the most fascinating and about the best stuff I’m looking forward to for Season 5. Agreed that Brienne was the weakest, however.

    I agree and love the Cersei chapters. You come to understand how she ended up the way she did. At the same time she’s so horrible it doesn’t quite excuse it. Even so, the walk of shame was awful and reading it made feel uncomfortable and now I hate the High Septon.
    Cersei takes herself very seriously, yet she clearly is gleeful about her evil deeds. Lena really brings the evil glee without getting cartoonish.

    Anyways, back to the casting topic. Aegon is very likely Jon’s slightly older half-brother. They need to cast somebody who is Kit’s age or a couple years older. A 20 year old won’t work.

  433. Handmaiden of Dany
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    I just have to say YAAYYYYY!!!!

  434. Jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone have confirmation on whether or not Gendry is in this season?

  435. Michel
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Jake Umber,

    The guy who is smoking.

  436. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    That’s Podrick.

    Happy about Indira being cast as Ellaria! Can’t wait to see her and Pedro on screen.

    I do wonder about Joe Dempsey, Tara Fitzgerald, Eugene Simon and Natalia Tena. Any word on them yet? I also wish Steve Cole would return as Kovarro. I kinda really liked him.

  437. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:19 pm | Permalink

    Michel:
    Jentario,

    Jake Umber,

    The guy who is smoking.

    That sure does look like Gendry.

  438. imlad
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm: Max Pirkis is 24 years old. A bit of a stretch for that character.

    1) All the major characters have been aged up, so presumable Young Griff will be as well. According to the Wiki of Ice and Fire he’s about 18 or so in the books. Add 3 years (the amount all the characters have been aged) and he’s 21.

    2) Max Pirkis looks younger than his age, just like the guy who’s playing Jojen Reed.

    So, where is the stretch here?

  439. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    GreatJon of Slumber,

    You know what? Rewatching it, it does look more like Joe Dempsie than Daniel Portman.

  440. loco73
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    In a totally unrelated matter…just got my 2014 ASOIF calendar. Sweet! Have it in my hands as I type…nah nah nah na na na…! LOL ! I like Gary Gianny’s take on the world of ASOIF, from all the years I have bought the calendars, this is perhaps the most unusual and different, and I mean that in a good way!

    Still, I have to say Marc Simonetti’s vision always floors me! That man got it down to a t. His version of The Wall still resonates with me the most!

    But I’m happy I got this one to….

  441. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Hi-Fi: You know what? Rewatching it, it does look more like Joe Dempsie than Daniel Portman.

    No, that’s definitely Daniel Portman. I’d bet money on it. Body type, face, even the way he smokes based on pics I’ve seen of Portman smoking.

    Also he’s wearing Pod’s costume.

  442. Jentario
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury: No, that’s definitely Daniel Portman. I’d bet money on it. Body type, face, even the way he smokes based on pics I’ve seen of Portman smoking.

    Yes, there’s no question. Just look at the head shape, it’s more round than Joe’s will ever be. The truth is always in the head-shapes…

  443. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Here’s a screencap of him. You can see Portman and how it’s Pod’s usual costume as well.

    link

  444. Nezzer
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Some other pics of the set in Þingvellir: http://visir.is/tokur-game-of-thrones-i-fullum-gangi-a-thingvollum/article/2013130729446

    Could this be the Kingsmoot?

  445. Hi-Fi
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    lol

    I am ofically convinced.

    Any word on Joe Dempsie, though? I need my Gendry back.

    (And again: Tara, Eugene, Natalia?)

  446. AA
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    It’s definitely Podrick…but I will say, in that screen shot, he is doing the Joe Dempsie eyebrow furrow

  447. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Ok I agree now.

    On Eugene yes I thought we’d heard he was back.

  448. Michel
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer,

    Doesn’t look like. Can anyone identify whose bannermen are these guy?

  449. GreatJon of Slumber
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Nezzer:
    Some other pics of the set in Þingvellir: http://visir.is/tokur-game-of-thrones-i-fullum-gangi-a-thingvollum/article/2013130729446

    Could this be the Kingsmoot?

    Hell, that could be anything. It honestly looks like it could be Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail.

  450. Michel
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:55 pm | Permalink

    Sorry about the confusion on Podrick/Gendry thing guys. So that confirms that Brienne’s trip will only have Pod? I really liked the idea of having Gendry going with them. That also means that Pod will leave earlier than Tyrion escape or that Tywin’s death is in ep 9, and their journey begins at the season finale. I can’t see Tyrion escape and Podrick joining Brienne in the same episode.

  451. Darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Vikestad,

    I’m with you. First time I read Purefoy’s comments I took them as blowing smoke. Still not sure I want him or McKidd on Game of thrones, but my opinion has absolutely nothing to do with his statements.

  452. Darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor,

    Huh, I did not catch that the role was played by NCW! Thanks!
    Now I will have to keep an eye out for that part next time I watch Blackhawk Down!

    AS for Zuleikha Robinson, I always took her as more of Obara Sand than Arianne Martell. She has far more of that warrior attitude than a princess to me. Plus she is older than I think Arianne should be…. Oh well, they call them actresses because they are playing characters and not themselves, right? XD

  453. Nezzer
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    No idea. I don’t think we have ever seen that kind of armor before. It must be a new costume. Maybe they are some of Euron’s personal soldiers? Because those extras look a lot like how I envisioned the Ironborn lords. Too bearded and down-to-the-earth to be Southeners; not enough fur to be Northeners. They must be Iron Islanders.

  454. Darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    BelwasBlues,

    Personally I think that you need an actor with charisma to play a stoic role. They can add little nonverbal things to the character to make it come alive.

  455. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    WeirwoodTreeHugger,

    I disagree on “Aegon” very likely being Jon’s half-brother. Not because I don’t believe that Jon is Rhaegar’s son, but because I believe Young Griff isn’t the real Aegon. I am a firm believer in the Young Griff = Illyrio’s son with his Blackfyre descendant wife.

  456. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    The color of the banner looks like the Arryn’s. I think this is in the Vale.

  457. Darquemode
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Michel,

    I cannot discern any house sigil anywhere, but the banner behind the soldiers is a fairly bright blue. Too bright to be Bolton men I think. Arryn bannermen in the Vale maybe?

    The armor seems to have more of a “northern” feel to it though doesn’t it? I can see the Iron Islanders having that armor maybe…

  458. victarion
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Hear me out…

    Ray Stevenson as

    Victarion

    James Purefoy as

    Euron

    Kevin McKid as

    Aeron

    They’d basically be playing their Rome characters again, and in all the same scenes.

  459. sherry
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle,

    I would have loved to have seen Jeremy Irons in GoT, too! Wonder if its too late to get either Jeremy or Colm into some cool role in GoT? Well, from what people are saying it will be at least 4 more seasons to play the dreamcasting stuff! :)

  460. Rygar
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    So we all agree, Jason Isaacs.

  461. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 26, 2013 at 11:03 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,
    Nope. Isaacs would be nice but I still want David Wenham as Euron.

  462. Rygar
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 12:13 am | Permalink

    Ser Tahu,

    I can see that. Ya know, lately I’ve been depressed and I started watching Deadwood again. GoT needs Brad Dourif in a big fucking way.

  463. Astonished
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 1:04 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    axia777,

    The guy is a master troll. He’s been on this site for a long time with numerous aliases but its clearly the same guy…or girl. I use to hate him/ her when he got too personal now I just enjoy it. He/she has this way of getting right under your nails with a veil of sympathy and agreement and then driving the knife home with a cruel twist.

    Please don’t pretend you know me. I always say what my true opinion is. It was a simple joke on the beloved, predictable fandom overreacting to racist issues and nothing more. I’m not trying to trick anyone, it’s just a simple joke. I’ve never called someone a troll for having an opinion that is in the outfield and I never will. That is cruel. You call me cruel. Josh you should remember what they say about living in a glass house. Perhaps you should examine your own life more than others’.

  464. Chickenduck
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    Rygar,
    Ser Tahu,

    Yes to David Wenham for Euron (go Aussie actors!), but another Australian option would be Richard Roxburgh.

    Americans probably know him from fairly cartoon-vaillainy roles such as the Duke in Moulin Rouge and Dracula in Hugh Jackman’s Van Helsing, for what it’s worth. Also was Moriarty in the League of Extraodinary Gentlemen. But he can do more dramatic stuff. Does a lot of TV in Australia.

    He’s a little rougher and older than Wenham. I think he’d also be more believable as Malahide’s brother. Definitely if you also added Stevenson as Victarion.

  465. Uther Greenshirt
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 2:05 am | Permalink

    Suzy know her armour!!!! If you havent seen her in Torchwood definately check her out!

    Her vs Cersei will be AWESOME!

    Can we please have more Canadian/American actors on the show?

  466. Joshua Taylor
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 6:11 am | Permalink

    How about David Thewliss as Euron? Give him a wig a beard, that cool voice…yeah that could work well.

  467. jentario
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    So, this for Bryan Cogman and D&D, here are the final calls:
    Victarion- Ray Stevenson
    Euron- Jason Isaacs
    Jon Connington- Kevin McKid

    Now let’s get an Arianne, a Young Griff, and a possible Aerion and Quentyn (if cast) and we’ll be mostly done with the big names. They listened here and they may listen again!

  468. Chickenduck
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 8:29 am | Permalink

    jentario:
    So, this for Bryan Cogman and D&D, here are the final calls:
    Victarion- Ray Stevenson
    Euron- Jason Isaacs
    Jon Connington- Kevin McKid

    Now let’s get an Arianne, a Young Griff, and a possible Aerion and Quentyn (if cast) and we’ll be mostly done with the big names. They listened here and they may listen again!

    If I may add to the list of key castings, we still need Lord Manderly. For whom there are numerous possibilities… I’m now liking Timothy Spall. And please, if I can request one other, please give us a Mors Crowfood… I loved him in the ADWD Winterfell storyline.

    In all likelihood, neither Manderly or Crowfood will be needed until S5, but maybe could see some on-screen Umbers as part of the Rickon storyline in S4.

  469. Chickenduck
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Joshua Taylor:
    How about David Thewliss as Euron? Give him a wig a beard, that cool voice…yeah that could work well.

    Thewlis would also work. He has always struck me in looks and acting style as somewhat similar to David Wenham… for whom I’ve already voted.

    I’m not sold on Jason Isaacs for Euron, but then again, I can’t really comment as I don’t remember him from anything except Harry Potter (in which he’s great, but not how I’d pictured Euron). Maybe if I go watch something else he’s done I’ll understand the passion…

  470. loco73
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    Over on his Not A Blog, George RR Martin has commented on Ms. Varma’s casting on GoT as well as the issue of diversity, the looks of his characters etc. See the link below:

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/329110.html#comments

    Or read the comment in its entirety. Keep in mind that the comment itself is a response to a question/comment from a fan.

    “Ellaria Sand is the natural (that is to say, bastard) daughter of Lord Uller of Hellholt. The Ullers are “sandy Dornish” and generally darker than the “salty Dornish” like the Martells. So this is perfectly consistent with the books.

    More importantly, however, Indira Varma is an amazing and talented actress. THAT’s what matters. She will be a great Ellaria Sand.

    And with that, I have said all I said about this subject. I am all in favor of diversity… in my books, in the TV show, and especially in the real world… but when the debate goes beyond race (itself a dubious and artificial construct) and ethnicity to debate the precise shade of an actor’s skin, that’s too damn far.”

    That is Martin’s take on all this…

  471. Rygar
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    For some reason when I read about Euron when Feast came out I pictured The Patriot era Isaacs. The handsome features and snarky look, not to mention that he is a total tool bag in that movie. Someone needs to Photoshop a picture of him from that movie with an eye patch. I’ll be your best friend.

  472. Lavignac
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    I know this is getting off-topic, but given that just above someone already quoted GRRM’s blog, I think this other GRRM recent reply is fascinating:

    Asthannoln
    Jul. 25th, 2013 10:40 pm (UTC)
    The leaving Dead
    Does this mean you don’t plan to use any of those that died in the TV show and not in the books ?
    Link | Reply | Thread
    grrm
    Jul. 25th, 2013 11:36 pm (UTC)
    Re: The leaving Dead
    Not at all. If they are alive in the books, they are alive in the books, and may well turn up again. Irri (and Jhiqui) is still serving as Dany’s handmaid, Rakharo remains one of her bloodriders, Mago will definitely show up again. You will learn the fate of Pyat Pree in WINDS. The Thirteen are still one of the factions contending for power in Qarth. You may see more of Alayaya and Chataya as well, and you will definitely hear more of Jeyne Westerling.

    (Bold text my emphasis)
    The others are maybes, but he sounds quite definite on future info for Pyat Pree as well as the widow Queen in the North… I can’t wait!

  473. tysnow
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    Rickon actor Art Parkinson has been cast as Prince Vlad’s son in Universals “Dracula”, this bodes well for increasing Rickon’s arc for tv GoT.

  474. CasterlyKitten
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    What difference will the casting of Ellaria or the Viper mean if Conan Stevens isn’t brought back as the Mountain? Sadly, it doesn’t sound like he’s been asked to come back, as per the interview here. In the interview is his GoT audition and just watching it makes me so upset, as he’s such a perfect Gregor! Ugh! Basically, the Viper scenes are all going to look silly, if we don’t have a proper Gregor.
    http://hbowatch.com/a-conversation-with-conan-stevens/

  475. Ours is the Fury
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, the article link’s been posted many times before, and Stevens actually already confirmed he wasn’t asked back on his own blog a while ago so the interview isn’t really news. He’s been gone a couple years. Ian Whyte is the Mountain. I’d say it’s time to move on, and accept that Stevens isn’t coming back.

  476. CasterlyKitten
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    http://hbowatch.com/a-conversation-with-conan-stevens/

    Yeah, the article link’s been posted many times before, and Stevens actually already confirmed he wasn’t asked back on his own blog a while ago so the interview isn’t really news. He’s been gone a couple years. Ian Whyte is the Mountain. I’d say it’s time to move on, and accept that Stevens isn’t coming back.

    Still, we are all entitled to our opinions and I did look to see if the article’s link had been posted before and didn’t find it. Conan didn’t actually say straight out on his blog “I am not coming back,” he said he hadn’t been asked back. So as it’s differently phrased here, many people might find it news, besides the fact that not everyone is aware he has his own blog. There’s a lot in that article that GoT fans might consider news, if you actually read it.

  477. Sulia
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Ours is the Fury,

    Considering WIC posts any tiny little nugget of info concerning GOT, I’m surprised you would side-sweep this interesting article with plenty of GOT related material about the audition process and filming of season 1. Biased much? It really shows poor taste on your part.

  478. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 5:36 pm | Permalink

    Sulia,

    I’m biased against Conan Stevens. The guy left the show. He’s gone. Get over it. Ian Whyte can look bigger than Stevens if they give him the right armor, he is taller and it isn’t that hard to add bulk, especially when the only time we’ll see him is when he is in full armor.

  479. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 6:33 pm | Permalink

    Ian Whyte isn’t right for The Mountain, he doesn’t have the same intimidating presence as Conan Stevens nor do I believe he could smash a man’s skull in with just his hands.

    Ugh it’s all pointless now that they’ve cast Pedro, my excitement for that moment has completely evaporated.

    Oded Fehr is the real Red Viper!!!!!

  480. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Oded Fehr is older and pudgier now than he was 14 years ago when ‘The Mummy’ was released. I get it. I too pictured him while reading. But he wasn’t cast. Get over it. Just like the idiot who quit on the show to play an Orc isn’t coming back.

  481. Chickenduck
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4f32095p01rqyl6qo1_500.png

    All I think of when I see that picture is that they could have avoided a lot of this arguing if they’d given Whyte the shoulder thingies to wear too.

    Or just left him out of S2 entirely… That scene wasn’t really needed.

  482. WildSeed
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    If….. Kevin McKidd or David Thewliss joins GoT’s cast, the integrity factor
    would step up quite a bit. Actor Charles Dance , would not be the only benchmark
    for the show.

    I can only wish but James Broadbent for the role of Mace Tyrell, Mckidd for
    Connington, Ian McNeice for Manderly, and John Noble for the Kindly Man.

  483. Cary Storm
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed:
    If…..Kevin McKidd or David Thewliss joins GoT’s cast, the integrity factor
    would step up quite a bit. Actor Charles Dance , would not be the only benchmark
    for the show.

    I can only wish but James Broadbent for the role of Mace Tyrell, Mckidd for
    Connington, Ian McNeice for Manderly, and John Noble for the Kindly Man.

    I agree with all of it except John Rhys-Davies for Manderly.

  484. Rygar
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Sigh. Conan chose to be a CGI orc in a big budget iconic film. His schedule did not allow him to be there when they were filming his scenes for season two. Ian whyte has the size and voice to more than adequately fill the role of a very very very very very very minor character that no non book reader gives two shits about. Its time to wipe your pussies and move on.

  485. WildSeed
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    Cary Storm,

    He’s a worthy candidate also, been a while since I’ve seen him. Does
    he possess enough ” girth ” to move about as McNeice, or is a fat
    suit called for ? I have a difficult time withholding actor Brendan
    Gleeson’s name from the contender’s list for ” Samwell’s dad.
    He fits the image rightly so, yet I realise other proficient actors for
    consideration.

    Is it wrong to daydream Jaime’s aunt ( married to a Frey ) being played by
    actress / philanthropist Oprah Winfrey ?

  486. Ser Tahu
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    WildSeed:
    Cary Storm,
    Is it wrong to daydream Jaime’s aunt ( married to a Frey ) being played by actress / philanthropist Oprah Winfrey ?

    Yes. Yes it is.

  487. Rygar
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Ha

    Ser Tahu: Yes. Yes it is.

  488. CasterlyKitten
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap:
    Sulia,

    I’m biased against Conan Stevens. The guy left the show. He’s gone. Get over it.Ian Whyte can look bigger than Stevens if they give him the right armor, he is taller and it isn’t that hard to add bulk, especially when the only time we’ll see him is when he is in full armor.

    We’ve seen Ian Whyte in armor and he was not in the least imposing, he looked pathetic. Also his voice was not at all “like stone breaking”. Conan is much more capable of that. His voice is much rougher.

    Also, Conan did not leave the show to do the Hobbit. He was done filming before Season 2 GoT began. HBO “decided to go in another direction.” Go read Conan’s blog before you make ignorant statements about a respectable actor.

  489. CasterlyKitten
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:35 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    Again. Conan did not leave the show to do the Hobbit. He was done filming before Season 2 GoT began. HBO “decided to go in another direction.” Go read Conan’s blog. You’re just showing your ignorance.

  490. Rygar
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

    Yes go read the ramblings of a bitter actor who can not accept that he made a big mistake and decided to take out his frustration on D&D and drown his sorrows with more steroids. Moving right along, footloose and fancy free… have you ever seen the sun rise up in the West?

  491. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    CasterlyKitten,

    Okay Mrs.Stevens.

  492. JamesL
    Posted July 27, 2013 at 11:44 pm | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Ian Whytes real voice wasn’t even used on the show. They alter it in post production to make it sound deeper and more intimidating. Conan doesn’t need his voice altered in post production to sound intimidating.

  493. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 12:00 am | Permalink

    JamesL,

    It’s a good thing they can alter it any time they like and not just that once then.

  494. Rygar
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Oh, I didn’t know that. You just sold me. Yes, we need Conan Stevens back or the show will suffer. We must have a rich baritone untouched by post production in order to make the show worthwhile. How obtuse I have been.

    JamesL:
    Rygar,

    Ian Whytes real voice wasn’t even used on the show. They alter it in post production to make it sound deeper and more intimidating. Conan doesn’t need his voice altered in post production to sound intimidating.

  495. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    No One Understands! It has to be totally badass when he shouts “You make my head hurt!” It’s bad enough that they have a 7’0 tall, 260 pound weakling playing the Mountain, but they must not use any computer altered voice tones or it will completely ruin everything!!!

  496. Aura
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 12:27 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    Wow, jealous much? You obviously don’t follow Conan’s career. Conan Stevens is a super health freak and doesn’t use steroids. He’s not in ay way bitter, he’s used this experience to continue to build his career. D & D are fools for letting him go. Ian Whyte is a poor replacement at best. You must need glasses if you think otherwise.

  497. Kati
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    Rygar,

    You seem to be very much against Conan Stevens, it seems personal for you. Whyte’s computer altered voice sounded very silly in season 2. Seeing him fight the Red Viper would be a huge disappointment for those of us who care about the scene at all.

  498. TM
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    Even if they don’t use the original Gregor, they really should try and find a new big actor to play the part rather then one that’s just tall.
    And I agree, the computer voice sounded stupid.

  499. Cary Storm
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    They should just digitally animate the Mountain just like they do with the dragons. That will solve the problem.

  500. Jentario
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 4:03 am | Permalink

    Cary Storm:
    They should just digitally animate the Mountain just like they do with the dragons. That will solve the problem.

    I was thinking of that too, but more like the Direwolves than the dragons. They could get Whyte infront of a green screen and make him buffer with CGI. I can see them doing that…

  501. Rygar
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    I have nothing against Stevens. I am, however, tired of all the whining about him being gone. Its like listening to a four year old continually ask ” are we there yet”? Pull your skirts down and try and remember that this show has much more to lose then getting one 8 foot tall minor character absolutely accurate. THAT is the central fucking point of my post. Bashing Stevens is just funny. Replace steroids with blow for all I care.

  502. Rygar
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Plus one ;)

    Cary Storm:
    They should just digitally animate the Mountain just like they do with the dragons. That will solve the problem.

  503. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    It’s time to start a “Bring Conan Stevens back” petition.

  504. Jentario
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 4:53 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    It’s time to start a “Bring Conan Stevens back” petition.

    No. And it’s a bit too late, anyway.

  505. Cosca
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    CasterlyKitten,

    I have crazy news for you!

    Wait for it, wait for it:

    Actors can lie!

    Phew, that was a tough one!

  506. Lady of Highgarden
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    It would be great to have Stevens back, he’s a much better Mountain, but it’s not going to happen sadly =(

    To people still whining about Oded Fehr, http://rummywench.tumblr.com/post/55043631569/so-in-the-last-few-days-people-have-been#notes

  507. Rygar
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Jentario: No. And it’s a bit too late, anyway.

    No this is a great idea. I’m in.

  508. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Jentario,

    Would you mean no? you’re not the boss around here! that’s Rygar.

  509. Jentario
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    Jentario,

    Would you mean no? you’re not the boss around here! that’s Rygar.

    Clearly. But there is still bacon in that soda.

  510. Rygar
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    The boss is Angela. Or Mona. Definitely not Jonathan.

  511. Gale
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 8:22 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    We should have done this a while back, really. The casting on this show is often weak and Stevens was one of the best. Whyte is one of the worst. Rygar if bashing Stevens is funny, it’s only funny to you. No one else is laughing, as it actually is important to some of us to get the casting right on Gregor Clegane

  512. Eljuma
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    Wow, that second guy you linked looks just like Pedro Pascal in a whig. Who do you say he is?

  513. Al Swearengen
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Eljuma,

    Oded Fehr looks nothing like Pedro Pascal.

  514. Rygar
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Gale,

    No one? Come on. There has to be someone who isn’t crying over spilled milk. Someone who finds humor with all the hoopla over this? Anyone? Anywhere?

    Alone in my silence I masturbate to topless photos of Conan Stevens, imagining him panting and yelling “sword” in a perfect unaltered voice. The epitome of perfect acting and casting.

  515. "Puking Strong"
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    Woopi Goldberg should have gotten this!! She’s not black enough.

  516. ace
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    good choice!

  517. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    Gale,

    Not sure if serious. The best cast on TV and the casting is often weak? If by often you mean once out of every 10 actors cast, then yes, they have not all been perfect. Is Conan Stevens better than Ian Whyte? Yes. But I’m tired of people acting like Whyte is some shrimp, who wouldn’t be considered mountainous in this world. The dude is over 7 feet tall and weighs 260+ pounds. We have no idea how he will look in action, with full armor(including the shoulder pads that Stevens had in S1). And don’t tell me that they can’t make this guy look even bigger in full armor. Just look at him here, in what is essentially an armor, of sorts: http://24.media.tumblr.com/028c19e6d92286d134eab52732d945c2/tumblr_mep8ofWQRX1qbppbno1_500.png

  518. WompWomp
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    There’s a reason Ian Whyte was cast as the first White Walker. He can move like one. I don’t think anyone of a right mind will call Ian Whyte a shrimp, but he’s a basketball player, not a tank.

    Even Stevens had armor that made him look bigger, but I doubt the best padding in the world will compensate for Whyte’s particular physicality in motion. I’m sure we didn’t see Gregor wreck face (or so much as walk any significant distance) in S2 for a reason. His gait would betray the performance. The more time elapses, the more quickly the illusion unravels.

    I’m beginning to get GRRM’s helmet grievance. If there ever was a time having a character wear a helmet was in their dramatic favor, it is this season.

  519. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 28, 2013 at 11:46 pm | Permalink

    WompWomp,

    Ser Vardis wore a helmet. So will Gregor.

  520. Chickenduck
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    WompWomp:
    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    There’s a reason Ian Whyte was cast as the first White Walker. He can move like one. I don’t think anyone of a right mind will call Ian Whyte a shrimp, but he’s a basketball player, not a tank.

    Even Stevens had armor that made him look bigger, but I doubt the best padding in the world will compensate for Whyte’s particular physicality in motion. I’m sure we didn’t see Gregor wreck face (or so much as walk any significant distance) in S2 for a reason. His gait would betray the performance. The more time elapses, the more quickly the illusion unravels.

    I’m beginning to get GRRM’s helmet grievance. If there ever was a time having a character wear a helmet was in their dramatic favor, it is this season.

    We’ll wait and see what happens. Might be terrible, might be awesome. Won’t know until it’s done.

    Regards helmets, I’ve always been on GRRM’s side on that one. For the Gregor scene to be believable, he should definitely be head-to-toe under armour, and might also be partially CGI.

    Also… no one here knows exactly WHY Conan wasn’t asked back. Might have been scheduling. Maybe he was a douche to work with. Maybe he’s a great guy and they just didn’t get along. Who knows. HBO presumably aren’t going to comment publicly.

    I mean, I’m normally ridiculously parochial about Australian actors, but the yelling has gone on so long that I’m just looking forward to seeing what happens onscreen. We can argue afterwards about whether it worked or not.

  521. WildSeed
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Chickenduck: I mean, I’m normally ridiculously parochial about Australian actors, but the yelling has gone on so long that I’m just looking forward to seeing what happens onscreen. We can argue afterwards about whether it worked or not.

      

    Rational response there.

  522. Darquemode
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 3:36 am | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap: I’m tired of people acting like Whyte is some shrimp, who wouldn’t be considered mountainous in this world. The dude is over 7 feet tall and weighs 260+ pounds.

    This.

    White is not a huge physical presence like Conan Stevens, but he is no beanpole either.
    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrh2miqMrX1r0m1bmo1_400.jpg

    One huge difference in their protrayals was that Conan wore the huge oversized shoulder armor pieces (I don’t know the proper term) like in this photo:
    http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29300000/Gregor-Clegane-house-lannister-29389114-894-720.jpg

    Whyte on the other hand wore the same or similar gorget, but not the shoulder armor. Not surprisingly he did not look as bulky or filled out.
    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120531221810/gameofthrones/images/4/4f/Gregor_2x08.png

    That left him looking narrow or frail to many people. If D&D put Whyte in full armor (a heavy helm and shoulder armor) I have little doubt he will look just fine in the duel!

  523. Gaius Baltar
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 6:06 am | Permalink

    About White vs Stevens. I can see why book readers would like Stevens more, since he can look like barely thinking animal well, which is how Mountain is in the books. However critic on White is overblown, i actually liked him in season 2 before i read the books, because he looked more like cold psycho with some intelligence, which make his proximity to Tywin, who obviously dislike stupidity more believable. Anyway he is very minor character, calling Stevens one of best casting is ridiculous, especially with so many good actors around.

  524. Eljuma
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 6:51 am | Permalink

    Al Swearengen,

    http://frikarte.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/pedro-pascal-oberyn-martell-frikarte.jpg

    Same nose, same eye color, same general cranial structure (Pascal’s jaw is a little shorter)

    Fehr TODAY:
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Oded_Fehr6.jpg/220px-Oded_Fehr6.jpg

    ZOMG! No long hair! No black beard! No tattoos! Wait… HE IS A WHITE GUY!

    I can almost hear the casting crew being told “we want a guy similar to Oded Fehr but affordable with a TV budget” and yelling bingo when they got Pascal. You have not seen Pascal characterized as Oberyn and refuse to even consider him for the position in the most fanboyish and irrational way possible.

    “Bu, bu… I saw him in The Mummy 15 years ago and I can’t stop behaving like I’m 5 and didn’t get my favorite toy for Christmas…” Well, tough shit then.

  525. Jentario
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    Eljuma,
    Exactly.

    “Oh no, they cast some who isn’t the EXACT INDIVIDUAL that imagined when I read the book! Such a terrible casting!”

    That is completely irrational and ridiculous. Take a chill pill Al, and let’s make the best of what we’ve got. D&D said he aced the audition, and he does look similar enough to his book counterpart so let’s wait and see and be optimistic, at that.

  526. Nanuk
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    Al Swearengen:
    Ian Whyte isn’t right for The Mountain, he doesn’t have the same intimidating presence as Conan Stevens nor do I believe he could smash a man’s skull in with just his hands.

    Care to volunteer for the experiment?

  527. CasterlyKitten
    Posted July 29, 2013 at 9:16 pm | Permalink

    Tyrion Pimpslap,

    You think he looks big there? Maybe you need glasses, he looks tall, but lanky and not at all intimidating. I’m with Gale, the casting is good for some major characters, which pulls the attention away from some of the really awful choices. Not just appearance wise, I’m talking acting wise as well.

    Rygar,

    Yeah, I think you’re the only one who finds your comments funny. Some of us actually give a shit about this series and how the characters turn out. I’m actually not overly taken with Conan Stevens, hugely muscular guys aren’t my thing. But for this role, he was perfect and if you think otherwise, go back and re-read Gregor’s description in the books. I often wonder if anyone commenting on this site even reads the books at all.

    Look at how scrawny he looks in the links below. And his facial expressions. Let’s pray he does wear a helmet. And not a ridiculous one, either.

    http://shrine-of-the-many-faced-god.tumblr.com/post/56592495676

    http://shrine-of-the-many-faced-god.tumblr.com/post/56592524771

    http://shrine-of-the-many-faced-god.tumblr.com/post/56592670199

  528. daniwolf129
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

    Isabelle, about Daemon Sand, I was thinking exactly the same! If you see the fan art on the song of ice and fire wikia , you’ll get shocked at how similar it is to François as Cesare, but i don’t even know if they’ll cast the role… we’ll see i guess.

  529. Rygar
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 6:31 pm | Permalink

    CasterlyKitten,

    I am stupidest when I try to be funny.

  530. Rygar
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    And last I checked this was a site based on the show, not the books.

  531. daniwolf129
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    and carne: Sean Harris as Cersei, the famous bearded beauty of king’s landing LMAO

  532. Tyrion Pimpslap
    Posted July 30, 2013 at 6:43 pm | Permalink

    CasterlyKitten,

    I’ve read the books several times over, but the show is not the books. Some people just don’t flip out every time they cast an actor who doesn’t look like they were described in the books. When you have the largest cast in the history of television, there are bound to be weaker actors. There is a budget, after all.


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