Game of Owns: Framing Stannis
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Episode 128 – Framing Stannis

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ACOK Chapter 15: Tyrion III
Game of Owns is back in full force, yet again for another chapter moving forward into our story, thanks to a Mr. Tyrion Lannister. The small council faces a big issue today, with questionable options on how to handle it, SO DON’T YOU STOP LISTENING.

 
 

Discussion Topics
Hello Wednesday
Facing the cold hard facts
Cleaning up a scandal
MY ARSE
The Lannister Marketing Team
Make these chains, ok
A sexy brothel
A stranger in the tunnel
Owns of the Chapter
Some OWNS and EMAILS


26 Comments

  1. Arthur
    Posted August 7, 2013 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    Stannis

  2. kevin
    Posted August 7, 2013 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Stannis

  3. Jentario
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Stannis

  4. who even?
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    Gotta say, I don’t really care much for Eric. Something about him just rubs me the wrong way…

  5. Colty
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    who even?,

    Really? Eric is my favorite. That’s probably because we share the same favorite character (Theon)

  6. Rhys
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    who even?:
    Gotta say, I don’t really care much for Eric. Something about him just rubs me the wrong way…

    I don’t like Zack, Selina, Micah or Eric. In fact, I don’t even know who any of those people are.

  7. TheRedStag
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 3:56 am | Permalink

    Stannis

  8. Selmy
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Stannis King! Stannis King!

  9. who even?
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Honestly the whole show could be carried by Selina and Zack, for me. Micah makes too many comments about future events and his voice makes me bored. Eric is extremely ditzy. So Selina and Zack ftw! Also, the banter about things unrelated to game of thrones is threatening to take up a lot of time. Don’t want this turn into a certain other ‘CAST about game OF THRONES. I give it a pass for now because it’s at least a little entertaining…Selina I luv u 4eva

  10. A Man Grown
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    I know I know, oh oh oh…

  11. A Man Grown
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    Eric’s awesome, don’t know what you guys are talking about.

  12. Dave
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Original Stannis-er

  13. Rhys
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 11:51 am | Permalink

    who even?:
    Honestly the whole show could be carried by Selina and Zack, for me. Micah makes too many comments about future events and his voice makes me bored. Eric is extremely ditzy.So Selina and Zack ftw! Also, the banter about things unrelated to game of thrones is threatening to take up a lot of time. Don’t want this turn into a certain other ‘CAST about game OF THRONES. I give it a pass for now because it’s at least a little entertaining…Selina I luv u 4eva

    I’m sure the podcast will take your advice on board and fire Eric and Micah immediately.

    Sorry, guys, “who even?” doesn’t like you, so, guess that’s that.

  14. Rhaego
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    ugh, four of them “reading” the books yet some are so obtuse at times. I’d better enjoy a thronescast from people who comprehend the text & have memory more capacious than goldfish.

    e.g. Varys hates magic. A magician (red priest) cut off his genitals for use in a spell. There’s no mystery about his changing appearances, but rather he’s a master of disguise who grew up with a troupe of actors (mummers).

    Owls deliver mail in Westeros? Is this Harry Potter now? The recurring incompetence hurts.

  15. Hodor
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Stannis

  16. Jacob
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

    I like the podcast, but I have a hard time keeping Zack, Micah and Eric apart, for me their voices sound too much alike… maybe it comes from not being a native speaker. And I have to say, the four should really try to concentrate more on the text… a bit of OT is nice, but if I’m gonna listen to three 40-plus minute podcasts a week I’d like to get a little more substance. The essay on Theon was great, more of that please!

    And where the hell does that camel in-joke come from? (Haven’t listened to many of the older episodes)

  17. Selmy
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

    Jacob,

    Yeah I agree. I can’t tell the dudes apart. All I know is one is higher pitched and he’s the one that loves Theon.
    And yeah they really could understand and remember the text better. I find myself correcting them quite frequently and its annoying because they can’t hear me!
    Dany’s eldest brother wasn’t called Rhaego!! He was Rhaegar!! Dany’s unborn child was called Rhaego!!

  18. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Rhys,

    Oh no, someone expressed an opinion online, better be a sarcastic prick! >.>

  19. Chickenduck
    Posted August 8, 2013 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    I’m enjoying it (except for the Sam voice)… It’s free and giving me something to listen to during the morning commute while I wait for more TWoW sample chapters and/or casting news… And they had Bryan Cogman and Hodor and whatnot, so that’s kind of cool.

    To be honest though, once S4 is underway, I’ll probably go back to Cast of Kings :) Or maybe both, see how the addiction’s going.

  20. Rhys
    Posted August 9, 2013 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere:
    Rhys,

    Oh no, someone expressed an opinion online, better be a sarcastic prick! >.>

    I just think it’s pretty ridiculous to complain about something that you are:

    a) not forced to listen to and,

    b) getting because the creators distribute it freely

    There is a difference between constructive criticism and “Micah makes too many comments about future events and his voice makes me bored. Eric is extremely ditzy. “

  21. Hollyoak
    Posted August 9, 2013 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Selmy:
    Jacob,

    Yeah I agree. I can’t tell the dudes apart. All I know is one is higher pitched and he’s the one thatloves Theon.
    And yeah they really could understand and remember the text better. I find myself correcting them quite frequently and its annoying because they can’t hear me!
    Dany’s eldest brother wasn’t called Rhaego!! He was Rhaegar!! Dany’s unborn child was called Rhaego!!

    Who cares?

  22. Hollyoak
    Posted August 9, 2013 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    Rhaego:
    ugh, four of them “reading” the books yet some are so obtuse at times.I’d better enjoy a thronescast from people who comprehend the text & have memory more capacious than goldfish.

    e.g.Varys hates magic.A magician (red priest) cut off his genitals for use in a spell.There’s no mystery about his changing appearances, but rather he’s a master of disguise who grew up with a troupe of actors (mummers).

    Owls deliver mail in Westeros?Is this Harry Potter now?The recurringincompetence hurts.

    What are you looking for? Some kind of academic dissertation?

    It’s just fun and goofy. I quite enjoy it. But it’s not for everyone. Maybe you should look for more serious podcasts where they discuss “the text” in-depth. LOL

  23. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted August 9, 2013 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Rhys,

    SO you’re one of those people who thinks you have to like everything about something in order to take part in it? I bet you tell people who dislike some aspects of the show to stop watching, too >.>.

    As far as I understood the comment, they said they like parts of it and they don’t like Micah and Eric. I’m missing how stating that is ridiculous. How dare someone like something but acknowledge there are things they don’t like about it?!

  24. Rhys
    Posted August 9, 2013 at 11:19 am | Permalink

    haltwhogoesthere:
    Rhys,

    SO you’re one of those people who thinks you have to like everything about something in order to take part in it? I bet you tell people who dislike some aspects of the show to stop watching, too >.>.

    As far as I understood the comment, they said they like parts of it and they don’t like Micah and Eric. I’m missing how stating that is ridiculous.How dare someone like something but acknowledge there are things they don’t like about it?!

    No. You’ve just committed a strawman fallacy.

    As I understood the comment (ie correctly) he or she used fatuous and inane comments to criticise people. I hope you can tell the difference between criticising a thing and criticising people.

    If you’re going to criticize a person then simply saying “his voice bores me” is fatuous and ridiculous. Why mention that at all? If you have a serious point to raise for instance “I disagree with X’s opinions regarding Y” then that would be more acceptable.

    For instance: I disagree with Eric’s defensible position on Theon. I find Theon’s selfishness to be off-putting and his acquiescence in the murder of the two young boys was beyond redemption. This comment is an acceptable criticism of Eric.

    Eric is an idiot – is not an acceptable criticism of Eric.

    I hope my etiquette lesson is of some benefit to someone. :)

  25. Treasonbeard
    Posted August 9, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    Rhys: No. You’ve just committed a strawman fallacy.

    As I understood the comment (ie correctly) he or she used fatuous and inane comments to criticise people.I hope you can tell the difference between criticising a thing and criticising people.

    If you’re going to criticize a person then simply saying “his voice bores me” is fatuous and ridiculous. Why mention that at all? If you have a serious point to raise for instance “I disagree with X’s opinions regarding Y” then that would be more acceptable.

    For instance: I disagree with Eric’s defensible position on Theon. I find Theon’s selfishness to be off-putting and his acquiescence in the murder of the two young boys was beyond redemption. This comment is an acceptable criticism of Eric.

    Eric is an idiot – is not an acceptable criticism of Eric.

    I hope my etiquette lesson is of some benefit to someone. :)

    Actually, these days you’re allowed to think someone’s an idiot. Its a new law, think it passed on Tuesday. Wednesday? No, definitely Tuesday.

  26. haltwhogoesthere
    Posted August 9, 2013 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    Yes I can tell the difference between criticizing a thing and criticizing a person. Can YOU comprehend that the personalities of a podcast ARE part of the thing? The thing and the person are intimately connected in this case. You can’t sit here and tell someone that disliking a person isn’t legitimate criticism when the personality of the podcasters and their chemistry is probably about half of the thing. So like I said, you can dislike something about a thing and still like the thing itself. And even if you disagree with that, this is a free country as far as I know, and people are allowed to have opinions and express them. So you didn’t need to jump in and make a snide comment about a perfectly valid criticism of the show as a whole. Your argument that you aren’t allowed to criticize people a)holds no water in country with free speech, etiquette be damned and b)is only valid if the person was attacking the podcasters’ personalities in response to arguments presented. You are essentially saying that they are guilty of an ad hominem fallacy, but that’s only possible if they were attacking the person in the context of their arguments. Their comment made no claims regarding the opinions of the podcasters. Attacking the person in response to one of their arguments is not valid, I agree. Attacking the person in regards to a show they’re on that is heavily dependent on their personality is. They only said that they don’t like the person. Which is, once again, a perfectly acceptable thing to do because the personalities of the people who make up a podcast are a large part of the podcast overall. Why mention it at all, you ask? Because this is a free country and this is an area for feedback (NOT limited to constructive criticism as you seem to think) and so they can. But if you can’t understand that premise and insist upon this arrogant (“as I understood the comment, ie correctly,”), condescending, and sarcastic tone, this conversation will go nowhere and it’s useless to spend more time talking about it. So I’m done.


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